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Speaker 2: Hey, what's up? Man? What's your name?

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Speaker 1: My name is Jayden, Jaden.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Jaden?

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Speaker 2: Have we ever talked before?

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Speaker 1: No, I've I just I just started listening to you,

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Speaker 1: like a couple.

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Speaker 2: Of years ago, sweet man, going on with you? What's

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Speaker 2: going on with your life? Uh? A lot, A whole lot.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm just thinking a lot, a lot more than

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Speaker 1: I usually am thinking. Mm hm, and like, uh yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: Really weird mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into it. What do you what are

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Speaker 2: you thinking about more often than you normally think about?

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Speaker 1: Well, I I tried to call you the other day

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Speaker 1: last time you streamed because I like, I really wanted

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Speaker 1: to and I felt like it, and so then I

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Speaker 1: I found your number and I downloaded Twitch and then uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting what I want right now. It's kind of weird.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, well ship Jayden. Aside aside from the logistics

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Speaker 2: of how you arrived here, Uh, what is it you

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Speaker 1: I do you really want to know? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: That's you know what I don't Jayden, Jayden. I can't

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Speaker 2: do the whole Jaydon, I can't do the whole conversation

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Speaker 2: like this, Jayden, I give you permission to talk to me. Jayden, Jayden, Jayden,

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Speaker 2: I give you, I give you you sound that's okay,

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Speaker 2: it's okay, you're okay, it's okay. I give you full

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Speaker 2: permission to, yes, talk to me about whatever it is

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Speaker 2: you want to talk about. Yes, I do. I do

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Speaker 2: want to know what's going on?

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Speaker 3: You want to know?

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Speaker 1: Oh God, that feels good. It feels really good. I've

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Speaker 1: been been trying to explain things to people for feels

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Speaker 1: like my whole life. And uh and yeah, I feel

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's what we'll do, Jaden. I here's here's what

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Speaker 2: I'll Here's here's what I Here's what I promise I

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Speaker 2: will attempt for you. Is you, I probably swear my life.

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Speaker 2: I promise that I will hear you out as you

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Speaker 2: attempt to explain, and I will try my very best

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Speaker 2: to meet you wherever you are, so you try your best.

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Speaker 2: I'll try my best, and we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: If if you want to learn, you have to get

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Speaker 1: out a piece of paper. I know it sounds kind

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Speaker 2: I can't do a piece of paper, but I'll try to.

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Speaker 2: I'll try my best to listen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know how we talk to each other, right,

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Speaker 1: and like yeah, like the like there's words inside your

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you know a lot of people, a lot of

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Speaker 1: people who think fast. It's kind of hard to explain

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Speaker 1: how you're thinking fast, right. I don't know anything, and

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Speaker 1: I know that, but I realized in the past few

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Speaker 1: weeks that I'm just a lot more autistic than I

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Speaker 1: thought I was, and that that's only because I'm actually

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Speaker 1: learning English, and it's it. It makes sense to me,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't make sense to other people, and that

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Speaker 2: Is English not your first language?

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Speaker 1: No? English is my first language.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So because because you're learning, learning English is making

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Speaker 2: you realize that you are more autistic than you thought

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Speaker 1: I feel so much more smart than I felt before

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Speaker 1: I knew this, Okay, And I don't know how to

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Speaker 2: Okay, right now, Jane I want your work with me.

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Speaker 2: I want your work with me here, because we're gonna

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Speaker 2: figure it. I swore, Jane, I swore on my life you're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna you're gonna pick up a piece of paper and

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not gonna do a piece of paper. But

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Speaker 2: I I swore on my life that I would attempt

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Speaker 2: that means I'm going to explode and die. So but

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Speaker 2: my hair. Just simple answers here. Yeah, what do you

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Speaker 1: In one word, it's the word now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm with you. What do you know about now?

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Speaker 1: Then? Word now is spelled.

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Speaker 1: And that's how I would spell it old. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: the roommate just got back. Hey, dec what I say

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Speaker 1: I was gonna do? I'm talking to the gecko right now.

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Speaker 2: It is Jaden. Stay with me and stay with me.

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Speaker 2: You're explaining the word You're explaining the word now. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Do you see the word now in your brain?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Put a K in front of it. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: where did you put that K?

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Speaker 2: I put it in the front? Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: Where is the yeah?

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Speaker 2: I see it. Okay, all right. I put it on

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Speaker 2: the I put it on the right side of the word.

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Speaker 2: But now I'm putting it in front of the word.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you thought you were right, but you know what

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we agree right now, okay, And you see that

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, Jaden, So I'm gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: steer this conversation now. Okay. So you just did a

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Speaker 2: and we successfully matched each other's perspectives.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we found out what word? What? What? What? What? Work?

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Speaker 2: What Okay, we found out. Ok yeah, yeah, okay, listen. Okay, So,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, that's in the context of this specific thought

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Speaker 1: Okay? Do you actually want to know?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you have to get a piece of paper.

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Speaker 2: I I don't need a piece of paper. I didn't

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Speaker 1: You know what, that's true. You're very You're you're you're right.

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Speaker 1: I I feel like the differences between me and you

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna share that. I'm gonna say this

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Speaker 1: Do you want to know how I figured that out?

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Speaker 2: How'd you figure that out.

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Speaker 1: I thought about what a pyramid was. Yeah, And then

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Speaker 1: I thought about English, and I thought about what a

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Speaker 3: Because I don't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't think I knew how to spell

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Speaker 2: I thought I was dyslexic.

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Speaker 1: But I'm realizing I'm just autistic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, does that make sense? It doesn't. I can I

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: How old are you, Juden?

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Speaker 1: I'm nineteen?

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Speaker 2: Okay. What where do you live? Don't give me your

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Speaker 1: Uh? South Dakota?

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Speaker 1: Kind in the middle of LA.

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Speaker 2: All right? Are you in college right now?

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Speaker 1: Nope?

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Speaker 2: What do you do? Do you work?

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Speaker 3: I mean I work in a grocery store okay, pretty nice?

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Speaker 2: Okay? And you live with your family?

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Speaker 3: Nope?

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Speaker 2: You live by yourself with some roommates?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have. I have one roommate. I used to.

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Speaker 3: Now o. Yeah, I have one roommate.

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Speaker 2: All right, so you live with a friend. And how

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Speaker 1: We met like last year.

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Speaker 2: Cool?

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Speaker 1: You just just showed up in my knife, you know.

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Speaker 2: Cool. How are you doing in general.

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Speaker 1: Right now? I'm a little hungry, but uh about it,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good, doing really good.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: What thoughts take up your brain most of the day?

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Speaker 3: Whatever?

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Speaker 1: Thoughts? I want to take over my brain most of

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Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, you feel you feel like you're you feel

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Speaker 2: like you're that in control of your thoughts kind of.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm not in control over my thoughts, but

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Speaker 1: I know how I how I would write down my thoughts.

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Speaker 2: And lately, lately, lately, what thoughts in particular have you

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Speaker 1: I I wanted to understand English, and so I imagined

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Speaker 1: I yeah, I've been having fun.

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Speaker 3: It's been good.

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Speaker 2: I've been reading you sent me a bunch of texts

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Speaker 2: and I'm reading some of them books.

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Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of like frantically texted you

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Speaker 1: yet last time because I was when when I was

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Speaker 1: listening to your stream, the other dude, the dude who

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Speaker 1: he was saying that I was like writing stuff down,

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when you say, yeah, and in one of

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Speaker 2: that mean? What do you What do you mean by

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Speaker 2: you fixed? What do you mean by you fixed English?

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Speaker 2: What was? And tell? And let's do this in parts? Okay,

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, slow down for me for just second, dude. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: To get a piece of paper I don't need.

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Speaker 2: I don't need a I don't need a piece of paper.

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Speaker 2: Okay, other people get what they want and then they die.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe that they die right after getting what

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Speaker 1: Kind of because I mean, I it's the words should

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Speaker 2: What do you want from me right now?

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good?

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Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about?

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Speaker 2: We're having a fly. We're talking about like five different

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean no, I'm just asking you what you want.

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Speaker 2: I think both of those. I think figuring out what

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Speaker 1: So right? Kind of right?

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Speaker 2: That actually does make sense. Let me give you an example.

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Speaker 2: So I've been a round. I think I've been around

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Speaker 2: You have a major problem. You have a major, major problem.

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Speaker 2: And this is the problem for you to think about. Here, Okay,

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Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think? My problem is.

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Speaker 2: You're operating is if there is one single puzzle to

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Speaker 2: But like if you put but like as a smart

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Speaker 2: It pissed me off. But I'm but here's the thing,

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Speaker 2: So let me tell you to give him your passport.

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Speaker 2: And that pisses me off. But of course he's thinking

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Speaker 1: I ninety percent agree with you.

443
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Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, you I okay.

444
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain my thoughts, but I

445
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: know how to explain how I personally break apart the

446
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: words that I see when someone says something to me,

447
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: or like when I read something. But because I've had

448
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: like it's just it's yeah, it's kind of weird, it's

449
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: really weird. I my whole life, I've felt like I've

450
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: wanted to understand my thoughts to the best of my abilities.

451
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: And I've always liked drawn. I've always liked to draw.

452
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: I've always liked to, you know, kind of like I've

453
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: always like kind of liked to read, Like I like

454
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: comic books. I kind of you know, I just I

455
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: just like some stuff. And the only way I figured

456
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Speaker 1: out what I actually need right now is from the

457
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: process of like the process of elimination that goes on

458
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: in my brain with the words that I say in

459
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: my Does that make sense.

460
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: A little bit?

461
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit kind of Yeah, I know that

462
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: I can make sense to you right now. But but

463
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: there's a but. But there's a big B, there's a

464
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: big butt, right, yeah, So so what the fuck is

465
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: the beat in English? What word does the letter B

466
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Speaker 1: actually mean?

467
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 3: Mm?

468
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I mean I interpret it. I'm

469
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: interpreting it to the butt meaning like this is like, dude,

470
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Speaker 2: when I was a kid, When I was a kid,

471
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: I used to like, I used to try to look

472
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Speaker 2: for like the dictionary definition of the you know what

473
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 2: I mean? You know what I mean? Like to be like, well,

474
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: how do they how do you define the word.

475
00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: The I think I figured that out. Yeah, seriously, I'm

476
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: not joking.

477
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: Do you figure out? How do you? Okay? All right?

478
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: How do you define the jayden?

479
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: I can't tell you.

480
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: If you can't tell me, then you If you can't

481
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: tell me, then you can't fucking do it.

482
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Speaker 1: Then I can't be right. I can't. I can't be

483
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: right right now, right because I can't tell you it

484
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: right now right.

485
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: I feel kind of.

486
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: Bad because I can't tell you it right now.

487
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: You don't have to feel this is you have nothing

488
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 2: to feel bad for.

489
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: But is that wrong?

490
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 3: Is that wrong?

491
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: I feel bad right now?

492
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: In your opinion? In your own opinion, Yeah.

493
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: Yes, in my own opinion. Yeah, not like it's not

494
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: more it's not morally wrong. Yeah, I don't think I

495
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: don't think. I don't think this is it's not morally wrong.

496
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: I just don't think the situation currently warrants you feeling bad.

497
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Okay, great, And I totally understand

498
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Speaker 1: how I wrote the letter B in my brain and

499
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: how I wrote the letter E and then the letter A.

500
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: Because if if I understand how I write the letter

501
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: B and then the letter A at the same time

502
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: as I understand why I'm writing it that way, then

503
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: I don't have to think about the words that I'm

504
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: saying in my brain as much.

505
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: Jaden, before we go, unless if this brings up a

506
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: whole other thing, I'm gonna I want to I just

507
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 2: want to ask you something. And there's no real right

508
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: answer to this question, but I'm I'm just genuinely curious.

509
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: Do you desire and it's okay whatever the answer, it's okay.

510
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: Do you desire to piss people off? Less?

511
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 3: Yes?

512
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: Okay one percent. I don't want to make people mad, Okay.

513
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: I want you to understand the words that I'm saying

514
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: right now. But for that to happen, you have to

515
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: write something in your brain for me to say something

516
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: to you, for you to understand it the way I'm

517
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: saying it.

518
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

519
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: It, yes, a little bit. But what I'm little But

520
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to get across is that like, Okay,

521
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: here's the thing is you don't want to and this

522
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: is the and and by the way, actually this word

523
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: and I've talked about this before and this goes into

524
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: what you were A whole thing about conscientiousness is there's

525
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: a certain level of conscientiousness because you don't want to

526
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: be too worried about pissing people off. Because if you're

527
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: like too worried about yeah, because if you're too worried

528
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: about pissing people off, then you never do anything because

529
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: as you exist as a person and do stuff, you

530
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: just naturally pissed people off. And you also you can't

531
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: really control whether or not you piss people off kind of,

532
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: but like if you want to piss people off less,

533
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: like I think you can make active efforts, you know,

534
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: like I'm hopefully trying to do with you right now,

535
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: Like when I'm talking to you, I'm like trying to

536
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 2: think about like what's going on in your brain and

537
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: how you're processing this information and whatnot. So like as

538
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: you go out into the world, you know, if you

539
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: want to try to piss people off less you can

540
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: try to think, like, well, what's going on in their brain?

541
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Speaker 2: How are they processing this information? And let me not

542
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: use that information as a way of like diluting myself.

543
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: But maybe like I'm a training to you right now?

544
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: Oh shit, really that's what I'm yeah, right now.

545
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: Okay, this moment?

546
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: All right?

547
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: Do you actually want to understand what I understand right now?

548
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: And I'm using the word like very kind of loosely

549
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: and very literally at the same time, do you actually

550
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: want to know what I know right now?

551
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: I feel intimidated now because you're kind of scared, right,

552
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't know what happens after yeah, yes, yes, yes.

553
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: You're kind of scared kind yes, right, okay, yeah, okay.

554
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Do you want me to explain how I break apart?

555
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: The word kind of a little bit in my own brain.

556
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: Do you want me to explain how I break it apart?

557
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: I'll hear it, and then it might it might be

558
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: the last part of this conversation, but yes, let's hear it,

559
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: all right.

560
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: I really really really want to be kind in my life,

561
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Speaker 1: for like my whole life. I know for a fact

562
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Speaker 1: that I don't know how long my life is going

563
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: to be. Yes, but if I tell you what I

564
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: know is a fact, then that's a gift I can

565
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: give to you.

566
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Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, that feels good, right, Yeah, I agree

567
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: the way I said it. Yeah, it does, do you.

568
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I've been trying to figure out how to

569
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: actually talk nice for like my whole life, because I've

570
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: felt like a kind person my whole life, and I've

571
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: been trying to figure out how to like help other

572
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: people be kind people. And right now I feel like

573
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: I actually can help most people be kind people.

574
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: In the sense that, yeah.

575
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: In the sense that they can understand their thoughts the

576
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: same way that I feel like I can understand my thoughts.

577
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, you have no idea how long your

578
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: life is going to be. So in what ways on

579
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: your day to day life can you help other people

580
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: be kinder people? And I mean by here's like, by

581
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: just talking to folks in a way you help them

582
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: understand their thoughts.

583
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I do.

584
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: Do you want to know what I did? Yeah?

585
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: What'd you do?

586
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 1: I felt like, all right, let me let me give

587
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: you some some backstory.

588
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: Okay, So.

589
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: I I have this girlfriend and we've been together for

590
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: like five almost six months, and yeah it's gone. I mean, yeah,

591
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: we're we're doing good right now. But we decided to

592
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: Like she I just I wanted to help her get

593
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: what she wants out of life. And I've never felt

594
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: like I can explain that, but I've already I've always

595
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: known that I wanted to help people with my life.

596
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: What do you do?

597
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: You know what your girlfriend wants out of life?

598
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: No, and I don't know that. And I know that

599
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: I can't know that, and so that's why I learned

600
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: the word trust in my own way.

601
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: Wait, Jaden, you're making a bunch of statements here that

602
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: I wait, hold on.

603
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, yeah, Orry, I.

604
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: Just let let me slow down for a say why first,

605
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: why can't you know that?

606
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: Because I'm not God?

607
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: Right? Okay? Are you saying that?

608
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: Like?

609
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: Oh wait, oh fuck, Jaane? You actually make Wait, Jaanen,

610
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: you're making perfect You're making perfect sense because you can

611
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: the reason you because you because the word trust, right, Okay,

612
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: because you can only you can All you can really do, Jayden,

613
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: All you can really do is you can trust that

614
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: whatever she's telling you is what she wants out of life,

615
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: is what she wants, so all you can really do

616
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: is trust the information she's giving you, but you can't

617
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: actually know because you are not God and cannot exist

618
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: in her brain. M hm did I figure it out?

619
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Speaker 1: Yeah? You figured it out. You figured it out exactly.

620
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: You're like a riddle, Jayden, You're like a fucking riddle.

621
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: Do you like riddles? Uh?

622
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: What were you saying?

623
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: What the fuck was I saying?

624
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 5: What?

625
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: What?

626
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: Okay?

627
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? What the fuck was I think I lost track?

628
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: You were talking? Okay, you were talking about your girlfriend.

629
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: You can help You want to help her get uh?

630
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: Uh you want to help her? Yeah, okay, I I

631
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: want her to get exactly what she wants out of life,

632
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: out of her life. Yes, And I I felt like

633
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: I never could actually write that down, But right now,

634
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: I I like, like, I'm I'm talking to you, and

635
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: it it feels really nice to talk to you, and

636
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: it feels good to just fucking paste around my house.

637
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I've never I've never felt so

638
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: crazy and so saying at the same exact time. And

639
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: the way I feel like that is because I underlined

640
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: the word crazy and then I wrote the words saying

641
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: underneath it, and I took the you know, that's I

642
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: took the equals sign and that's me.

643
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: How did you meet your girlfriend?

644
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: We so I've known her for like three years, but

645
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: she used to like, we weren't together when I met her,

646
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: but yeah, like five months ago.

647
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would assume you weren't together when you guys met.

648
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead, Well, no, she like she dated she

649
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: dated my friend for like a few like it was

650
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: like a few weeks or whatever or no, no, it

651
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: was it was like a couple of months. But I, uh, yeah,

652
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: I just like I just wanted her to get what

653
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: she wants out of life, and I always wanted what

654
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: I want out of life. And I feel like I

655
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: can help most people explain what they want out of

656
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: life if I teach them how to write it down.

657
00:35:58,920 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: Mm hm.

658
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: But the fact that I know that I can help

659
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: most people if I teach them how to write it

660
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: down feels pretty wrong because I don't want to be right, Like,

661
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to write things down correctly.

662
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: I just want to help talk to people.

663
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: Jayden, Yeah, I think I I you know, I've enjoyed

664
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed talking to you. I'm gonna I'm gonna be

665
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: super honest with you. It's been challenging to figure you

666
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 2: out and to get information from you. And I think

667
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: you know, and I think, no, no, no, you have nothing

668
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: to be apologized for. I think you, I think you know.

669
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: I think you're a smart guy. So I think you

670
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: know that it's challenging to get information for you. I've

671
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: enjoyed the challenge. You like getting this it, well, I

672
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: it's difficult, but I've enjoyed the challenge of it. I've

673
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: enjoyed the challenge of I said at the beginning of

674
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: this call that I swore on my life I would

675
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: attempt to under stand the things that you were saying

676
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: to me. And I've enjoyed the challenge of doing it.

677
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: And I hope you don't understand that.

678
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 2: I well, well, well, jaden, listen. I can't. I can't

679
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: understand everything you're saying because I'm not God.

680
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: That's true.

681
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: But I can attempt, and I feel like I did attempt,

682
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: and I feel like you attempt it. I feel like

683
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: you've tried the best, and I appreciate I appreciate you

684
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 2: sitting here with me, and I feel like you attempted

685
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: as best you could to explain it and I'm aware

686
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: that ninety I'm aware that almost one hundred percent of

687
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: the people listening are gonna have no idea what either

688
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: of us were talking about the entire time. And I'm

689
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: okay with that. I'm okay with that.

690
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: Okay, dude, that's okay.

691
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm not worried either. It's all right. This is was good.

692
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: That is very good.

693
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: Jane, is there anything else you want to say to

694
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go?

695
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: What is a computer if not what you are computing,

696
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: which means complying and playing?

697
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: I think, Thank you, Jane. I don't have a good

698
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: rest of the night.

699
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: I love you, mane, I have a good one.

700
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jane, I love you too. Back all right, Well,

701
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: that was you know what, I fully one hundred percent

702
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: stand by that. Let me know when the comments of

703
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: the YouTube or the Spotify or whatever, how I really

704
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: want to I mean, I guess that's what comments are for,

705
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: is for commenting on the thing, But I really want

706
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 2: to know how people felt about that. Did you make

707
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: it through? Did you listen to the whole forty minute

708
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: of us, forty minutes of us talking. Did you get

709
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: five minutes in and you were like, I don't know

710
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: if I can understand that I liked being in that

711
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 2: I did that felt like I was playing pong or something.

712
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: I enjoyed the challenge of that. I live in New

713
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 2: York and like, I don't think that this previous caller

714
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: was schizophrenic, but schizophrenic people come up to me a

715
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: lot and we talk, and I've learned a lot. I think,

716
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: like some like I think beneath the beneath like a

717
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: jumble of like a random people saying seemingly random stuff.

718
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: There's a kernel of something in there, and I think

719
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: you can get to that kernel if you like, you know,

720
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 2: keep it on track. Because Jayden was trying to explain something.

721
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: I'm not fully sure I got all of it, but

722
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: I got some of it. I got more of it

723
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: than I would have if I didn't try, and and

724
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: I'm happy about that. Okay, let me know in the

725
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: comments if you got if you've got anything. I'm curious

726
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: of other people's interpretations. And he fucked my shit up

727
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: up by telling me about putting the K in front

728
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: of the now because I put it in I put

729
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: it at the on the right hand side. I didn't

730
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 2: put it in front. I'm walking through life completely unaware

731
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: of my own perspective and how it makes me put

732
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: k's in different places. All right, Hello, Deck?

733
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: Is this you?

734
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who is this?

735
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 3: This is Ti?

736
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: Ti?

737
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: What's up? Tight? Time?

738
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: Nothing much? Dude, calling because I have a quandary for

739
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 3: you today.

740
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: Quonned me?

741
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, So just a little bit of backstory. I

742
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: recently moved to a major West Coast city to pursue

743
00:40:54,280 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: art music, start a whole new life type thing. And

744
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 3: I've been here about a month and a half and

745
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: a lot of good things have been happening, and the

746
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: one thing that's really been holding me back is, for

747
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 3: the fucking life of me, I cannot get a job.

748
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 3: I've probably have applied over two hundred places, like places

749
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: I'm overqualified to be working at, and I've gotten five

750
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: job interviews, four of which I really really wanted and

751
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: would have like suited my needs financially, and finally landed

752
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 3: one today. But I'd be working swingshift, so from like

753
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: anywhere from like two thirty to twelve thirty, depending on

754
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: the day, which essentially would kill any hopes of me

755
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: like going out and doing the art stuff. So I'd

756
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 3: had to for me the fuck up, which is killing

757
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: my soul to think about, because I really came out

758
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: here with a purpose and I'm just not sure if

759
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: I'm able to live in that because either way that

760
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 3: I decide to go, it's gonna take an immense amount

761
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 3: of sacrifice. And I feel like I'm going to rock

762
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: in a hard play the Battle of Brain and Heart.

763
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: And I figured, well, I told myself today that I

764
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: would ask a few of my friends what they would do.

765
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: We're not really friends, but I've been following you since

766
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: like early early early days, and I've actually even seen

767
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: you live and stuff. Oh I think i've even called

768
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: in like five plus years ago. I can't remember exactly

769
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: what we were talking about, but I said something about

770
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: my mommy kisses, my boo boos. I don't remember the context,

771
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: but yeah, So you're somebody who I definitely respect artistically

772
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 3: as someone that fucking tried it, man, and for better

773
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 3: or worse. I mean, I don't know your whole life,

774
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: but it seems like you found some success and some

775
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 3: self worth in it, and I think as artists, that's

776
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: what we're all really striving for.

777
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate those kind words. I have multiple questions Okay, wait,

778
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: what's a swing shift.

779
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: That's like basically the second shift of the day. So

780
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: like when most people working nine to five or you know,

781
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: up until three pm, that would be like the relief shift.

782
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 3: So I'd be working from three in the afternoon to

783
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: some days past midnight.

784
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: Okay, how many days a week?

785
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: You five? My days off would be Fridays and Saturdays.

786
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: But this is going to be a very demanding job,

787
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 3: like they've already like alluded to me, like picking up

788
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: shifts for other people. So another kind of thing about

789
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: it is where I moved in this city, traffic is

790
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: a really big problem. And while this place is fifteen

791
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 3: sixteen miles away from my house, through traffic, it's like

792
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: an hour and ten minutes.

793
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, so you've got to add two whole hours

794
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 2: onto your lighte onto this thing.

795
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: Everye day yep. And then I get home at like

796
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 3: one two am, fall asleep, probably wake up at ten am,

797
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 3: take a shower, and do all that shit again. Now,

798
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: I will say, though, the money is good, and with

799
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: over time it makes it even better.

800
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 2: How good.

801
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: Fixes all my financial problems?

802
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm.

803
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 3: A single mail with no kids. Pretty good, so I

804
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: don't have any real responsibilities to anybody about myself right now, swag,

805
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 3: it is kind of okay.

806
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: I have more, I have more, I have more questions.

807
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 3: I have more questions, I have more answers.

808
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: Uh you what what arts did you move out here

809
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: to do?

810
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: Primarily music? But I've taken a lot of interest in

811
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: film and screenwriting. I consider myself like a songwriter, but

812
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: I make a lot of hip hop style music.

813
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: Okay, so music and film. Yeah, And this is and

814
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: this play and this major West coast city that you

815
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: moved to. Where did you move there from.

816
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: Another major northern California city?

817
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: Okay? And this major West coast I'm trying not to

818
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: out myself. This major West coast city wouldn't happen to

819
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: be Los Angeles? Would it?

820
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: If it was, it would make a difference. It's a

821
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 3: big place where a lot of famous people will come.

822
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: I'll say that.

823
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 4: You can just say if you're not gonna okay, all right,

824
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 4: I moved from the Bay to l A. There it is, okay, Jesus,

825
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: it doesn't hold on, hold on, hold on, it doesn't

826
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: have this does not have to be.

827
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 2: You're not the only way there's there's nobody's gonna.

828
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 3: Find I'll tell you. I'll tell you why, because I

829
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 3: do have like friends and close people that do listen

830
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 3: to your show that I don't fill one hundred percent

831
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: comfortable sharing all my personal issues with.

832
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: Okay.

833
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: Now you, on the other hand, I'm.

834
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: A complete stranger. I'm a complete stranger with thousands of

835
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: other complete strangers who are happy to Okay, So you

836
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: moved the Bay. So you moved from SF to So

837
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: you moved from a very okay Sacramento. Okay, it's a

838
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: different story.

839
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: Hmm. What's I lived? I lived a lot and did

840
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: a lot of music things in Oakland, San Francisco, Sacramentos

841
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 3: where I lived, but a lot of my connections are

842
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 3: based in northern California. Okay, and you moved, so I'm

843
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: starting all over again.

844
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Here's what I understand. Here's what I want to

845
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: talk about, is why did you? Okay, the idea that

846
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: you need to be in a certain location for a

847
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 2: certain kind of career in the arts is not I don't.

848
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: I believe. I'm strongly, strongly against it.

849
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: I could agree with that. Actually, so my ultimate goal

850
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: isn't to be locked down the one place.

851
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, so why did you intentionally move to a

852
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: place where the cost of living? Why did you intend

853
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: if you have all these financial problems, why did you

854
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: intentionally move to a place that will be an even

855
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: harder strain on your finances?

856
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 3: Well, to be honest, I actually looked up and where

857
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 3: I'm at right now, I'm paying significantly less per month

858
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: than I was up in Sacramento, and so it's not

859
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 3: like I have a bunch of issues. And to be

860
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: even more honest, my bills are paid, which is another

861
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: factor of this, Like for the next two to three months,

862
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: my bills are paid, but there's no income, you know,

863
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 3: which is kind of like why, I'm like, fuck, do

864
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 3: I need to just I don't know. I feel like

865
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: I'm just getting momentum right now, you know, getting my

866
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 3: feet planted in like the actual art scene, and again,

867
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 3: got some cool opportunities, and it just be so weird

868
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 3: to be like so in people's face and start having

869
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 3: this momentum and then all of a sudden, I'm just gone,

870
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: you know, not just to other people, but to me

871
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: as well.

872
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're having you're actually getting good opportunities in

873
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: Los Angeles because you're in Los Angeles because I don't know.

874
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: I might be eating my words, but I don't.

875
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I mean it's hit or miss.

876
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: You know. I came down here with a bit of

877
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 3: a plan and the rest have just been winging it

878
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 3: and getting really lucky. And yeah, it's been good. I've

879
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 3: been meeting really talented people and like minded individuals and

880
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 3: you know, my healthy share of fucking weirdos that you know,

881
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 3: aren't about what they're talking about. But it's a good

882
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: balance right now, and it's something that I feel like

883
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: I could work with. But there's still like that one

884
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 3: factor kind of missing. You know, at the end of

885
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: the day, we all got to eat.

886
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: And so obviously this is a very demanding job and.

887
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: It is like fifty sixty hours a week.

888
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think crazy, And it would it be taking

889
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 2: away from time that like, like I assume you want

890
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: to be like outperforming doing events and shit, right.

891
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, which entertainment now hours are pretty much or to midnight,

892
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: you know.

893
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, well let me say this. Let me ask

894
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 2: you this. The people that you're meeting in this scene,

895
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 2: what do they do? Where do they work?

896
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: A lot of them, A lot of folks out here

897
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 3: have multiple jobs, you know, they bounce around, they have

898
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: or they have their own side hustles. And yeah, a

899
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 3: lot of like multiple job ask people out here, because

900
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of what it takes if you're

901
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: not going to get a normy job. M hm.

902
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: So wait, this job that you've got, is it a

903
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: normy it's a normal job, right.

904
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 3: It's for a major corporate company that I'm definitely not

905
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: going to name having to do with specimen collection. I'll

906
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 3: just say it like that.

907
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 2: You work for a Come company.

908
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: Among other specimens. I think Come is one of the

909
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 3: things I might have to pick up now with my end.

910
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: Luckily I don't work for them, Yeah I should. Yeah, Yeah,

911
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: let's call it Come Corp for sake of continuity.

912
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 2: So you have not yet accepted the job at Comcorp.

913
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: No, I just got the offer this morning, mm hmm.

914
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: And it's very good money. And you've applied to a

915
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: billion other places and none of them accepted. And you've

916
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: been how long have you been in how long have

917
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: you been in Los Angeles?

918
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 3: For about a month and a half.

919
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: Okay, And it's been good to you so far, so far,

920
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: so good. Well, and you know, I I have a

921
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: lot of thoughts about this because I don't know how.

922
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that the job search, I know,

923
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: like the the job market sucks shit everywhere, but I'm

924
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: also like, you know, I don't know if it sucks

925
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 2: more shit in Los Angeles because it's Los Angeles. I mean, look,

926
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: you got the go ahead and work the job for

927
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: a little bit, right, especially if it's good money and

928
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: you can kind of stack a little bit, right. But

929
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: I'll here's what I'll say that. Here's here's my thoughts

930
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: is if you work this job for like you know, one, two, three,

931
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 2: four or five, six months or whatever, and you're stacking

932
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: good bread, but you're also like, oh fuck, I came

933
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 2: out here to like do this music stuff and I'm

934
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: just like, no, I just can't do it with this job.

935
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: Then I think you go, like, all right, where what

936
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: about like uh, Seattle or Baltimore or Austin or Portland

937
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 2: or fucking anyway any other you could because he's the thing. Man,

938
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 2: It's like the whole dream of like I went with

939
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: my guitar to a Los Angeles, it's just not there

940
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: anymore because everything's like yeah, because everything's on the internet, right,

941
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, you could so like go to a go

942
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: to it. You can go to any major city in

943
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: the US or abroad and they'll have like a music

944
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: scene of some kind. Like it didn't have to be

945
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. So if if this is the only, if

946
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 2: the only jobs you can find at Los Angeles are

947
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: you know, seventy hours a week at come Corp, then

948
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: you know, stack your come. But then I open your

949
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 2: options up. That's what it won't be my come.

950
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 3: I'm stacking. But I kept your meeting.

951
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 2: What'd your what did your friends say?

952
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 3: I spoke to a I have an older friend that like,

953
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways we have crossover. He's like

954
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 3: twenty years older than me. But back in the nineties,

955
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 3: he had a really good opportunity and all he had

956
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: to do was move to LA and he didn't take it.

957
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 3: And he's still really really good at what he does,

958
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 3: you know, but I know that, like sometimes he might

959
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: wonder what his life would have looked like had he

960
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: made it, you know, different decisions.

961
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: What was the opportunity that he didn't take in Los Angeles?

962
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 3: He had he was inside of a hip hop group

963
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 3: that had a little bit of traction in the nineties,

964
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: and he was offered a development deal with a group

965
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 3: of people, you know, his group, and I guess he

966
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 3: was like the odd man out and he stayed in

967
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 3: northern California and they went on and found varying levels

968
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 3: of success. But like that was they're kind of like,

969
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 3: I don't know that that thing that we're all waiting for,

970
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 3: the person that's going to pluck you out of obscurity.

971
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 3: He had that opportunity and he didn't take it. And

972
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I have that opportunity, but I just

973
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 3: I also been feeling like this incredible pressure of something's

974
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 3: about to happen.

975
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 2: Well, you do have that opportunity, but that but that

976
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: opportunity is going to be a computer algorithm more than

977
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: it is like a person.

978
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe you're right.

979
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: It's just the way that shit works.

980
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: Now everybody's been calling it the La handshakes, just changing instagrams.

981
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, but that's all like kind of bullshit.

982
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: I mean that's good. That stuff is good for, Like yeah,

983
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: I mean that's all bullshit. That stuff is good for

984
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: like you want to have friends and you want to

985
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: be around other people or else to go insane, but

986
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: it's not gonna like do anything for your career. Yeah,

987
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: I've learned. I've learned I have learned over the course

988
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 2: of navigating whatever career I've had doing this. Actually, actually

989
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: that's not It's not entirely true. I have I have

990
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: a few key like business relationships that are like insanely

991
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: helpful for me. Most of the rest of them are like,

992
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: you know, uh, not that import I only there's like

993
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: there's like a few people like business wise that have

994
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: been really helpful, but most of that most of the time,

995
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: you know, what I've learned is that, like I think

996
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: I used to think that like it like some some

997
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: like manager or something that comes and that gives you success.

998
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 2: But your continued success in any kind of creative industry

999
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 2: is going to come as a result of the things

1000
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: that you're making, not people. You know, So I think

1001
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: people like no, like, knowing certain people and having certain

1002
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: folks in your corner can be super helpful for like

1003
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: elevating you and doing other things. But at the end

1004
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: of the day, it's like you gotta make. It's about

1005
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 2: the stuff you're making. So yeah, and you can make

1006
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: stuff from anywhere on the planet, you know. I mean,

1007
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: I started doing this for in I thought about this

1008
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 2: a lot because I started doing this in the suburbs

1009
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 2: of Baltimore. You know, I didn't start doing this in

1010
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: Los Angeles or New York. You know. I'm I and

1011
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 2: Eve and even the people that I met that like

1012
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: when I like those business relationships I was talking about,

1013
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: those are people I met online. Oh there's people I

1014
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 2: met on the internet too, you know, so like they're

1015
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: not people I met at Like I have friends that

1016
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: I've met at like things I do in person, But

1017
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: in terms of like any kind of like people that

1018
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: have helped me out with with building a career, they've

1019
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 2: all been I can't think of a single person like

1020
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: that that I had that I met in person. I

1021
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: met all those people again in my mom's basement.

1022
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and me too. I definitely have had like lasting

1023
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 3: friendships and business relationships even to this day. Part of

1024
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 3: the reason I came down here is like some of

1025
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 3: my bid my strongest relationships are down here, and so

1026
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: to some extent I wanted more proximity with them. But

1027
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 3: one thing that is worth mentioning is that my music

1028
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: and the art that I express has a a really

1029
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: big performance artist aspect to it, and strangely, I've gotten

1030
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 3: a lot of like a lot of opportunities just from

1031
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 3: people liking me on stage. You know, I'm not sitting

1032
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 3: here saying that I got this, you know, the hardest

1033
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: bars and like the best mixing and all these things.

1034
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 3: But you know I kind of have without tooting my

1035
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: own horm, I kind of win people over and yeah, yeah,

1036
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 3: I've gotten some really big opportunities just by showing up,

1037
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 3: you know.

1038
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, but there's but there again, you know,

1039
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: there's stages all over the place. You know, you can

1040
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: get there's stages in all all the other cities that

1041
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: I mentioned. You know, there's really good. Yeah, I'm gonna

1042
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 2: give a shout I'm going to give a shout out.

1043
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to give a shout out to someone i've

1044
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: never I've never met her, but I think we follow

1045
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: each other on the internet. There's this comedian she I

1046
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: think she's Japanese or she lives in Japan. Her name

1047
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: is Yuri A. Collins, and I follow her on Instagram

1048
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: and her career is really interesting because I think she like,

1049
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: she lives in Tokyo, where there's not a shout out.

1050
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: The Tokyo Comedy Bar. Uh, they're great, but they're the

1051
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: only game in town. You know, people don't move to

1052
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: Tokyo to to become big comedy stars. But you know,

1053
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: this woman, Yuria, she like started building an online presence

1054
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: through may I think mainly through you know, clips and

1055
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 2: whatnot that she put out by performing at this one

1056
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: place in fucking Tokyo. And I've and it's been cool

1057
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: to see her on social media, like building a career

1058
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: living in a place that wasn't meant to be like

1059
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: the big you know, it's not living in a place

1060
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: where people don't go to start their careers. And you know,

1061
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: as someone who again started a career in a place

1062
00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: that's not a big major city.

1063
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 3: That's working remote, that's very impressive.

1064
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. I mean it's well, but she's performing

1065
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: and I'm and I'm bringing her up and I bring

1066
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: this stuff up to bring up that you know, you

1067
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 2: can also have a performance based career that doesn't have

1068
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: to necessarily be in a New York or LA or

1069
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: or in Nashville or whatever the fuck. But anyway, and

1070
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: I don't And it's like it feels glaringly obvious to me,

1071
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's caught on to a lot

1072
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: of people yet, who are trying to do stuff. What's

1073
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: your name again, Tyler? Tyler? Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, Tyler Will

1074
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

1075
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?

1076
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: Hi?

1077
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 3: Mom about it?

1078
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: Tyler forever? All right, brother, have a good day. Yeah

1079
01:00:53,880 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 2: that was Tyler. I hope people are enjoying these conversations

1080
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: about career and life and stuff. That is a tough

1081
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: thing because like, yeah, there's some jobs that are just

1082
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 2: fucking all encompassing, you know. And then it's like I

1083
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: used to back when I went out to open MIC's

1084
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia and stuff. I used to meet people and

1085
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 2: I used to be like, uh, how are you alive?

1086
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: The New York and LA are the capital of be

1087
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: of Like you go to some like artsy thing or someplace,

1088
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: and you're like, how are you alive? How do you

1089
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: afford to eat food and live and stuff? But I

1090
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:48,439
Speaker 2: guess they figure it out. I don't know. Hello, Hi, Hi,

1091
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: what's your name? I'm Deja Desia. What's going on, Desia?

1092
01:01:54,520 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, just on a walk right now, hanging out.

1093
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 5: I texted you was walking my dog earlier, but now

1094
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 5: it's just me anyway. I don't know, I uh I

1095
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 5: just lost my job, and so that's always fun. I'm

1096
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 5: kind of in a weird spot right now where I

1097
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 5: don't know, I feel like, uh, I've had a lot

1098
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 5: of like stability that I've never felt before the last

1099
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 5: like five years, and now suddenly it all kind of

1100
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 5: feels like I'm on the cusp of like things changing

1101
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 5: completely for me, and I don't know what direction or

1102
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 5: how it's going to go. But it's just, uh, I

1103
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 5: don't know, in a weird limbo right now.

1104
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you texted me, and you said that

1105
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: things are about to change forever and you're or that

1106
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 2: they're about to change drastically and you're spooked about it.

1107
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: Is that primarily the driven by the job loss, or

1108
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: is there like other stuff happening?

1109
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 5: Other stuff? For sure, I've been like working on building

1110
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 5: a business for the last year or so with my

1111
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 5: cousin for I do interior design. And then also I

1112
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 5: think the scariest part is I'm pretty sure my like

1113
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,959
Speaker 5: long term partner and I are gonna split up soon.

1114
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 5: So it's just kind of a lot of things at once, you.

1115
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 2: Know, mm hmmm. How are things going with the business

1116
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 2: that you've been building, well.

1117
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 5: I'm in school still, and then I was also working.

1118
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 5: So it's just mostly been like, you know, whenever I

1119
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 5: have free time, meeting up doing a lot of back

1120
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 5: end stuff. But I do have my first paying client,

1121
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 5: which I'm very excited about. It is like a friend

1122
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 5: of mine, but it's still something. Yeah, thank you.

1123
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: What was the impetus of the job loss?

1124
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 5: So I was a I was a server and a

1125
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 5: manager at a restaurant and the restaurant was open for

1126
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 5: thirteen years, and then I was there for almost five

1127
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 5: and they gave us four days notice to tell us

1128
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 5: that they were closing the restaurant. So we all kind

1129
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 5: of got laid off out of nowhere, which was pretty shitty.

1130
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 2: What's going on with your partner?

1131
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 5: See, that's the big one.

1132
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 2: That's the big one.

1133
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's all big, but it's just,

1134
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 5: you know, that is something I've been I don't know,

1135
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 5: a little avoidant of because I don't exactly have the

1136
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:54,919
Speaker 5: financial freedom. We live together, so it's not like I'm

1137
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 5: in like a shitty abusive relationship or anything, which I'm

1138
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 5: thankful for, but it's just kind of I don't know.

1139
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 5: We've been together three and a half years. We moved

1140
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 5: in together after knowing each other for like a couple months,

1141
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 5: and it was just like a relationship, like just never

1142
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 5: experienced anything like that before. And I don't know, I

1143
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 5: think we're just you know, the classic growing apart just

1144
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 5: kind of feels like, I don't know, I feel like

1145
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 5: I have a like this reoccurring lesson in my life

1146
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 5: that I keep having to learn over and over again,

1147
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 5: and every time I learn it, I think I'm good,

1148
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 5: and then something else comes to like push that line

1149
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 5: back a little. So that makes sense.

1150
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I'm familiar with

1151
01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 2: the reoccurring lesson that one thinks they have learned the Nah,

1152
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: they actually haven't. They they one and they meaning me

1153
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: and I. So what's the lesson that you feel like

1154
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: you keep learning.

1155
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it boils down to boundaries. But

1156
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 5: I think that I don't know. I had a let's say,

1157
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 5: a difficult childhood. My parents were young, shouldn't have had kids,

1158
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 5: had a lot of kids, had a lot of drugs.

1159
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 5: So I think that a lesson that I had to

1160
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 5: learn when I was like no, no, no, eighteen nineteen was

1161
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 5: I guess what unconditional love means to me? And you know,

1162
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 5: knowing how learning how to like love someone from afar

1163
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 5: if they're not, if having them close to you isn't

1164
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 5: you know, beneficial or even neutral, So if that makes sense.

1165
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like this guy was kind of mmm pushing

1166
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 2: your boundaries in some sense or like there was a

1167
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 2: sense of like, oh, I still love this person, but

1168
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 2: I have I gotta do it from afar.

1169
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, so I think that. I don't know, I think,

1170
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 5: like I said, like, the first time I learned this lesson,

1171
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 5: it was like dramatic, very clear lines, like you can't

1172
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 5: have your homeless dad sleeping in your front yard. You

1173
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 5: got it, fucking you know, set some boundaries here and

1174
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 5: then so on and so forth, and just little shit

1175
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 5: like that. And it feels like every time I'm like, Okay,

1176
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 5: I'm good, I'm in a healthy relationship, things have gone well.

1177
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 5: I've been very happy the last few years. But now

1178
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 5: it's like obviously less dramatic things that I'm learning, Okay,

1179
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 5: well this needs to be a boundary too. So it's

1180
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 5: just weird going from like such a dramatic version of

1181
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 5: that and like feeling freed from that, Like I don't know,

1182
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 5: from the feeling of I don't know, do you. I

1183
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 5: don't know do you learn trying to say uh.

1184
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the first time you learn a lesson, it's

1185
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: very in your face and you're very yeah, it's very

1186
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: like obvious the first time you learn the lesson, like yeah,

1187
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: you know, you can't let your dad sleep in a

1188
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: tent on your lawn. And then when you learn the

1189
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 2: lesson again, it kind of like a frog and boiling

1190
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 2: water and it's a little bit trickier and you're like,

1191
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 2: oh shit, I didn't even realize that I was, you know,

1192
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 2: I thought that when I thought when I learned, I

1193
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 2: thought that learning a lesson means that my brain and

1194
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 2: body naturally chart waters in a different way. I didn't

1195
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 2: realize it meant I have to actually do different thing.

1196
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 2: I have to actively make different decisions. That fucking sucks.

1197
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 2: That's annoying. I thought. I thought it was like an

1198
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: I thought I'm like a Pokemon learning a new move

1199
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 2: or something like that. I didn't realize I have to.

1200
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to have to do any fucking work. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1201
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 2: it's a Yeah, life's annoying like that. Yeah, lessons are

1202
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 2: annoying like that.

1203
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, and not not even really in the sense that

1204
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 5: like you know that I I've I have done a

1205
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 5: lot of work. I'm not saying you were saying I wasn't,

1206
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 5: but so it's like even more annoying to like put

1207
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 5: in a ton of like like I dropped out of

1208
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 5: school for a few years so that I could like focus.

1209
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 2: On like.

1210
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 5: Getting my shit together, and so like earlier when I

1211
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 5: was saying, like, this is like the first time I've

1212
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 5: kind of had stability, because I, like I've worked really

1213
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 5: hard to get that sus stability, and you know, I've

1214
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 5: got like my own place, my own job, got dog cat,

1215
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 5: lovely little life, and now suddenly I'm in this place

1216
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 5: of comfort and it's not so comfortable anymore. So it's

1217
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 5: just like even even more frustrating to like put in

1218
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 5: all that work to get to a spot where, like

1219
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 5: I thought I wanted to be m h and it's

1220
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:31,719
Speaker 5: not not working out in the way that I had hoped.

1221
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 2: So, I I guess, if we're learning this lesson again,

1222
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: what does it what does it look like? Like? Like

1223
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: so the I mean the place of stability that you've

1224
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 2: been in for the past five years, Like, did you

1225
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 2: have any qualms about it?

1226
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 5: I don't know I'm no. I mean, I'm I'm like

1227
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 5: overall pretty positive person. I try not to, you know,

1228
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 5: I don't know. No, I mean, it's not no short

1229
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 5: answer no.

1230
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 2: Okay. So you liked your you liked your life, and

1231
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 2: it was kind of so you liked your life as

1232
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: it was, and then things happened to rock the boat.

1233
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, so okay, I see what you're saying. Yeah.

1234
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 5: I think, like, particularly with the relationship, it's not like

1235
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 5: there's been like a dramatic change or anything that's like different.

1236
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 5: It's just kind of, you know, I don't know if

1237
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 5: you've been in like a I wouldn't even I don't

1238
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 5: know if i'd called three years long term, but some.

1239
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 2: People call three years long term.

1240
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 5: Okay, But in like a longer term relationship, there's your issues,

1241
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 5: You start to bickery, you start to argue, and then

1242
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 5: it's your job to figure out how to not do

1243
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 5: that if you want to, you know, be happy. So

1244
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 5: I think it's just a lot of little things and

1245
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 5: sort of slowly realizing that like the person I'm with,

1246
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 5: even though I like I love them with my whole being,

1247
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 5: it's just not supporting me in the ways that I like,

1248
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 5: see myself needing support if we were to continue on

1249
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 5: for however many years.

1250
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't want to be all toxic positivity

1251
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 2: on you. I don't because it sounds like this all

1252
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 2: like happening kind of immediately. But I think the good

1253
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 2: news and I really can only speak from like my

1254
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 2: own personal life experiences that like in times in which

1255
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 2: like there's been transitional periods and things have been uncertain

1256
01:12:54,840 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 2: and foundations have been rocked. Uh, it's made. It's why

1257
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 2: it sucks, it's it's really Yeah, it's really bad. But

1258
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 2: at least in my life, I've always I've always found

1259
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 2: my way to get back to something, and so I

1260
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: feel pretty confident that it's possible that when the foundations

1261
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 2: are rocked, that there's something on the other side of it.

1262
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 2: So I think there's something on the other side of it.

1263
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: It's basically what I'm trying to say, not to be

1264
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 2: all toxic positivity about it. You know, there's a grief

1265
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 2: to be grieved, but you know it's cool. I mean,

1266
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 2: there'll be a new there's new people, there's new places,

1267
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: there's new things to set up shop. Last I was

1268
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 2: freaking out last night. I was thinking about uh, just

1269
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: I get anxious, and I always think about ways in

1270
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 2: which the foundations of my life could be rocked, and

1271
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 2: then I think about ways in which I could fix them.

1272
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 2: And then the day go by and at some point

1273
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 2: I die. But until then, it's like, all right, We'll

1274
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 2: be in whatever I am until I'm not in it anymore,

1275
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: you know.

1276
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

1277
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is helpful in any way shape or form.

1278
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 2: Sounds like kind of nonsense.

1279
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 5: No, I mean, no, absolutely, I'm definitely. I don't know.

1280
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 5: I try to, you know, focus on my foundations that

1281
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 5: are uh, I don't know. I think the people in

1282
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 5: my life. I try to view more as like the

1283
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 5: foundations of my life rather than like, you know, where

1284
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 5: I live, what job I have. Yeah, of course, I

1285
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 5: think like my family and my friends are just like

1286
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 5: the most important and I, you know, I still get

1287
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 5: those guys. So I'm not like, I'm not freaking out necessarily.

1288
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,839
Speaker 5: I just kind of know that this change is coming,

1289
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 5: and I know it is going to probably suck for

1290
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 5: a little bit. But I I'm confident that, you know,

1291
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 5: I'm capable. I've you know, dug myself out of worseholes,

1292
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 5: So I'm not I'm not worried about thinks that people

1293
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:14,759
Speaker 5: should be worried about.

1294
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well take that out.

1295
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1296
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 2: And by the way, and by the way, you earned

1297
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: you earned that, just so you know, you earned that ship,

1298
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, you are. You earned. The reason why,

1299
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: the reason why you're not worried about things that people

1300
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 2: should be worried about is because you earned through your

1301
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 2: own actions and decisions throughout your life. You built yourself

1302
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: into the kind of person that doesn't need to worry

1303
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 2: about those things because you got it. So you whatever

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01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 2: confidence you have for the future, it's uh, it's don't

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01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 2: trick yourself into believing it's foolish. You know, it's something

1306
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 2: you earned, or else you wouldn't have it. Yeah, that's

1307
01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 2: my that's my therapy, geckoing of that. What's your name again,

1308
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 2: Deja Desia? Is there any other way in which I

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01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 2: can be helpful to this conversation? You know?

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Speaker 5: Not that not that I'm aware of. I know everyone

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01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 5: says this when they get on, but I'm a big fan.

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01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 5: Been listening for a while.

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Speaker 2: Thank you in Phoenix.

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01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 5: So this is oh talk to you?

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01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah? Did you were you at the one where

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01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 2: the guy hit someone with his car?

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01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 1: Oh?

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01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 5: Like actually or told a story about it.

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01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 2: Well, he told the story. He's told a story about it.

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01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 2: He didn't do it out in the parking lot or

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01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 2: anything like that.

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01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 5: I don't truly don't really remember. I was the most

1324
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 5: recent one you were here for. I think there's like

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01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 5: a girl tired about her stepdad or something.

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01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that sounds like it sounds good.

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Speaker 5: But I had a great time. Went with my brother.

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01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 2: It was fuck yeah, fuck yah. Is there anything else

1329
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 2: you want to say to the people of the computer

1330
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 2: before we go?

1331
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 5: Oh, okay, I've thought about this. Actually, yeah, this might

1332
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 5: be annoying. You don't have to do this, but I

1333
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 5: just want you to know that that I think that

1334
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 5: you would do a really good Jerry Seinfeld impression.

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01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: Ah.

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01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 5: Fuck, you don't have to do it, but I why

1337
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 5: do you think about that?

1338
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 3: Why do you?

1339
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 2: Why do you? Why do you think I would do

1340
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 2: a really good Jerry Seinfeld impression?

1341
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 5: I don't know something about like when you're in the moment,

1342
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 5: you get a little your voice raises in octave, and

1343
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 5: I think that if you worked on it, you could

1344
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 5: do a really good one.

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01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'll okay, I'll think about that. I'll think, yeah, yeah,

1346
01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 2: thank you for letting me, Thank you for giving me

1347
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 2: the com finance to know that I could potentially do something,

1348
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:04,879
Speaker 2: even if that thing is Jerry Seinfeld.

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01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 5: Anytime.

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Speaker 2: Have a good Endigen, all right, you two. No, I

1351
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 2: don't think I'm gonna do it. I don't think i'm

1352
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 2: gonna try. No, I don't think i'm gonna try. I

1353
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 2: don't have a thing. So what does he say? What's

1354
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 2: like one of his jokes? Does anyone know one of

1355
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 2: his jokes? Maybe if I knew one of his No,

1356
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think I'm gonna do it. George,

1357
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 2: all right, No, okay, let's end. We're gonna end the podcast. Hello, folks,

1358
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 2: it's Lyle here. That's the end of this episode. But

1359
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Speaker 6: We went and looked at engagement rings, and then we

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01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 6: go to my mom's house and I mentioned that I'm

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01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 6: looking for engagement rings with her and we're talking about rings,

1371
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 6: and then my mom was like, Oh, that reminds me,

1372
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 6: and then she think that she continues to like go

1373
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 6: on this probably a twenty and int of tangent about

1374
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 6: now my ex just got married and she's been like

1375
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 6: stocking my ex on Facebook and whatnot, still keeping up

1376
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 6: with her. And I hadn't been with her for like

1377
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 6: three or four years, and she was telling me all

1378
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 6: about her wedding, all about their pictures and what their

1379
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 6: venue looked like, and didn't even like bother to ask us,

1380
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,520
Speaker 6: like anything about our experience.

1381
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: That's fucking crazy.

1382
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 6: Good wild, It's fucking wild.

1383
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 2: She taught you told you that's fucking crazy.

1384
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 3: Bro.

1385
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 2: You you revealed that you're getting married, and then your

1386
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: mom was like, oh, that reminds me. I was stalking

1387
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: your ex on Facebook about her wedding. That's fucking crazy.

1388
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,360
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1391
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Speaker 2: episode description. That's therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. All right,

1392
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 2: I have nothing else to say, goes on the line.

1393
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 3: Taking every nine. Goes to teaching you in the interview line,

1394
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 3: but he's not really an expert.