WEBVTT - BONUS: Division Breakdowns: Southeast, Southwest, and Northwest 

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<v Speaker 1>You're tuned into Heat Check, buttal quick.

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<v Speaker 2>On this episode of the Heat Check, it's a bonus episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a special betting preview for the Southwest, Southeast,

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<v Speaker 2>and Northwest divisions. I am joined by my BEDMGM co

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<v Speaker 2>host Ryan Horbat, and we recorded this on a recent

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<v Speaker 2>episode of BETMGM Tonight. We break down our favorites to

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<v Speaker 2>win each division, as well as the most intriguing teams

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<v Speaker 2>to watch. We had a lot of fun, So do

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<v Speaker 2>me a favorite nick and drop that motherfucking beat.

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<v Speaker 3>Southeast. We got the Hawks, the Heat, the Wizards, the Hornets, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Magic. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only a couple of answers that you can really say,

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess you could say, all right, which teams

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<v Speaker 2>are exciting?

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<v Speaker 3>Which teams get your heart racing?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Hawks are the only exciting team in

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<v Speaker 2>this division right now outside of the mat like the Magic.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, I've watched every game.

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<v Speaker 1>The Hornets will be exciting. Well, when's LaMelo coming back,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully before a Lonzo which is probably nebruwhere I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think his timeline is out at least man it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make say it doesn't say in terms of like timeline,

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I would say about the ankle for

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<v Speaker 2>time for LaMelo. I injured my high ankle. I had

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<v Speaker 2>a high ankle sprain and it took me. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>took me. I was in pet for like four months.

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<v Speaker 2>They said it would be eight weeks. It would me

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to run again, but to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to cut, plant, spin out the things that LaMelo got

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<v Speaker 2>to get back into the game shape. It could be

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<v Speaker 2>two to three months, like three months maybe more so,

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<v Speaker 2>depends on how severe his ankle is and when they

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<v Speaker 2>get him back, they need to get back Gordon Hayward

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Right now, it's just man, just Terry Rosier,

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<v Speaker 2>and they actually might trade Terry Rosier. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>not a team that you want to be betting on.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a disastrous offseason obviously off the court stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, Miles Bridges obviously indefinitely. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably domestic, Yeah, I would hope.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe, maybe not.

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<v Speaker 2>He played no contest just the other day. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to face any jail time. He's going to serve

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<v Speaker 2>a parole. He may be back in the uniform for

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<v Speaker 2>someone at some point. But I would not bet on

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<v Speaker 2>the Hornets. I think Hornets unders for a while are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the.

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<v Speaker 1>Move which is crazy because z just all I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I said that the other.

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<v Speaker 3>Night, crazy like they score eighty five points.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they don't have anybody and they don't play any defense,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, they can't score. So I'm with you

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<v Speaker 1>on that. I would not do anything obviously with the Magic.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't pay me to touch the Hornets. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>the Wizards same, but you know my thoughts on Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Young and I bought into the Hawks last year because

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<v Speaker 1>it just seemed like it was going to be their

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<v Speaker 1>year after losing in the Eastern Conference seven and three

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and they should have beat the Bocks in

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<v Speaker 1>that series. I mean only I only say that because

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<v Speaker 1>Giannis didn't play the final two games. They got Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Middleton and de Holliday. Though, I just feel like, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting the heat though, plus one twenty five, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's kind of been a mess, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know that they've had guys in and out of the lineup,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jimmy Butler included, I just feel like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're giving me, and I know the price isn't great,

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<v Speaker 1>plus one twenty five with Eric Spoltra and that team

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<v Speaker 1>of veterans you know, they always treat the regular season

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<v Speaker 1>the way that it should be treated. I'd probably take it.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the question that I have for you. The Heat

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<v Speaker 1>every year win like fifty three to fifty four games.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a top three seed in the East, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they kind of burn out. Now last year

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<v Speaker 1>they had a shot there.

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<v Speaker 3>But two years ago maybe they're just like screw it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like kind of like the Bucks did finally a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago, where it's like, we don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to win sixty sixty two games. We'll use more load management.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have you Donnas Haslim Donnas Haslam checked

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<v Speaker 1>into a game the other That's crazy. He's one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety seven years old. He was literally in the

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<v Speaker 1>league when I was at Saint Mary Nativity in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighth grade. I'm not kidding you. This guy is still

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. But I would still I would take

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<v Speaker 1>the Heat plus one twenty five. I like the Hawks.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I trust them.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not minus money. I would need plus two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>to take the Hawks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't take a minus one twenty five. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think though they're very exciting. You look at de Jonte Murray.

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<v Speaker 2>De Jonte Murray, we were talking about props at the

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<v Speaker 2>break and I made a whole list today of players

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<v Speaker 2>that are on my do not bet list and players

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<v Speaker 2>to target lists. His rebounds are a target, his assists

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<v Speaker 2>are a target, his points are a target, his steals

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<v Speaker 2>are a He's just his hitting every single prop like

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<v Speaker 2>on every level. Steals, blocks, assists, rebounds, points, He's doing

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<v Speaker 2>everything for this team. Three pointers as well, He's hitting

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<v Speaker 2>like five a game sometimes, so his efficiency is off

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<v Speaker 2>the charts. He's just really added a lot to a

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<v Speaker 2>team where Trey Young, Trey Young's undersize, Trey Young is

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<v Speaker 2>up and down, and de Jontay Murray is very steady.

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<v Speaker 2>And for whatever reason, de Jontay Murray is getting John

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<v Speaker 2>Collins involved. And John Collins now is averaging like fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>points per game or something crazy like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just make shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he should be doing that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, he's averaging thirteen a game right now, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's shooting threes. He's shooting somewhere between two and seven

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<v Speaker 2>threes a game, John Collins. So yeah, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>de Jontay Murray makes this team a lot more fun

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched a lot more games because of him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Clint Capella will probably be moved at some point for someone,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean it would only be the Heat

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<v Speaker 2>for me at plus one twenty five because this is

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<v Speaker 2>a team that just continues to try hard and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how much I trust Nate McMillan. And like

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen the Hawks go into like these fifteen game tailspins,

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen games where they just win like four of fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna happen in January.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even really want the Heat plus one twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five this year.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is bad conference.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is there's yeah, there's no value because the

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<v Speaker 1>Magic sure maybe in a year or two, righteah, maybe two.

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<v Speaker 3>Two, the Hornets not the Horness.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, probably never, to be honest with you. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the Wizards, like any chance, what is the Wizard's goal?

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<v Speaker 1>Because is it just make the playoffs and get some

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<v Speaker 1>playoff money? Right, like you get the host two games,

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<v Speaker 1>get some playoff revenue in there.

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<v Speaker 2>You just have to try to saytiate because Bradley Beal

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<v Speaker 2>that you're on the right track.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Porzingis has to be healthy all year.

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<v Speaker 1>See, and I just the other night. Okay, so, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know Brad didn't play. Maybe he did play. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even remember because it was Friday night, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>all the last thing I remember was Porzingis for some

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<v Speaker 1>reason running his mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he didn't. Kevin Durant, he didn't play the last

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<v Speaker 3>two games, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kevin Durant was at the free throw line and

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<v Speaker 1>he just stared at him and he started jawing with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he murdered everybody on the team like he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Gafford. Has he played since that night because his

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<v Speaker 1>ankles were broke.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he has played. I don't think he has.

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<v Speaker 1>A team is dump and they're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to make any moves. Like what's the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>that they could do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had five points last night, five and seven,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's in a bad place.

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<v Speaker 3>The Wizards just really have no goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah's eleven to one. No, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty much all I have in terms of just

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<v Speaker 2>like breaking this team down. But what I will say,

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<v Speaker 2>for people who haven't watched any Magic games, you should, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>like you really should. Pala ben Caro averaging thirty in

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<v Speaker 2>the last five games. He's averaging almost thirty points per game.

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<v Speaker 2>Just insane stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>He's awesome. So give me one reason to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>Wizards if I'm just the best.

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<v Speaker 3>There isn't one one. There wasn't one.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a reason to watch the Heat.

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Kuzman, Oh, no, to watch the Heat bam on

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<v Speaker 2>a bio season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's gonna be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and Max Strews Juice Shrew's three pointers.

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<v Speaker 3>Tyler Hero assists Tyler Hero three pointers.

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<v Speaker 2>For props, really just for props. There you goes, Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>Butler mid ranges, There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had to make a bet, I'd go with

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<v Speaker 1>the Heat only for the value same plus one plus one.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk a little Southwest Division winner. And while I

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<v Speaker 1>pull up those future odds, I tell me, just tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>good good, thank God, throw them out to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's Mavericks they're the leader plus one thirty five Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>Memphis Grizzlies plus one fifty nope. Uh, New Orleans Pelicans

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<v Speaker 2>plus two fifty, Spurs plus twenty five thousand, and Rockets

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<v Speaker 2>plus fifty thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm clearly all in on the Rockets this year.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm kidding they're the worst team in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, I'm kidding about that, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>like that price for the Pelicans. Same really like the

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<v Speaker 1>Pelicans because the only issue with the Pelicans and I

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<v Speaker 1>love what they did at the deadline last year. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean acquiring CJ, which obviously, you know, you get another

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<v Speaker 1>guy that could get your buckets in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>But also the thing with them is they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're really young, but now they have the experience.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that scares me a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>saying that is I said that about Atlanta the year

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<v Speaker 1>before that, and then they ended up being a complete

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<v Speaker 1>dumpster fire. But we've already seen it here early with

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<v Speaker 1>the Pelicans, like they look like they're the real deal

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<v Speaker 1>when Zion's out there, when he's fully healthy. He's in

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<v Speaker 1>shape right now. He just needs to stay healthy. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing that scares me a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 1>I love brandon Ingram. I've always been a big brandon

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<v Speaker 1>Ingram fan. I thought the Laker should have held on

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<v Speaker 1>to brandon Ingram. And I like that roster. They're deep,

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<v Speaker 1>they got a bunch of young guys, they got guys

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<v Speaker 1>that actually played defense, and I think that they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>One of the reasons I like him is you have

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<v Speaker 1>you have the veteran leadership with a guy like CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>But also you have a bunch of young guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are going to get up for these regular season games.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of like nobody saw that coming from Memphis last

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<v Speaker 1>year where they were the second best team in the

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<v Speaker 1>West only next to Phoenix. They covered every single they

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<v Speaker 1>played hard every single night. You just don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get that with these veteran type teams,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the West right now. Like the Clippers, well

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<v Speaker 1>they're using the load management. They just want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs, where with the Pelicans, this is new

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<v Speaker 1>and exciting. You got guys trying to increase their numbers

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<v Speaker 1>and pat their stats a little bit every night, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're just a good team. I like the Pelicans a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also do like the MAVs because they have

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<v Speaker 1>Luca and every single night he could give you forty.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the value bet would have to be the Pelicans, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the value.

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<v Speaker 3>Bet for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the issue that I have with the Pelicans is

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<v Speaker 2>that last year they were one in thirteen. They started out,

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<v Speaker 2>they started out really, really poorly, and it felt like

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<v Speaker 2>Willie Green was already sort of with his back against

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<v Speaker 2>the wall.

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<v Speaker 3>Zion wasn't around.

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<v Speaker 2>You had a bunch of undrafted guys or second round

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<v Speaker 2>guys coming in congealing together.

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<v Speaker 3>Brandon Ingram was the alpha on this team.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you make the trade for CJ, and CJ

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<v Speaker 2>sort of unlocks brandon Ingram, and all the while they

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<v Speaker 2>were able to figure some things out without Zion. And

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<v Speaker 2>now that Zion comes back and you've got you know,

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<v Speaker 2>herb Jones is clicking, and brandon Ingram's clicking, even to

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<v Speaker 2>a degree, Jose.

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<v Speaker 3>Alvarado has found himself a role.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you insert Zion back into the lineup, and now

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<v Speaker 2>a team that was a stifling defense, a team that

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<v Speaker 2>took Phoenix to the brink in the playoffs based on

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<v Speaker 2>that perimeter defense, playing really athletic, good team stuff, covering

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<v Speaker 2>for one another. Now all of a sudden, they're just

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<v Speaker 2>picking on Zion because he's not a very good defender

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<v Speaker 2>at all, and he's barbecued chicken and he knows that,

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<v Speaker 2>and he has inconsistency and issues with I think complacency

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<v Speaker 2>as well. So I think what's happened is you have

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<v Speaker 2>a team that was super desperate last year to a

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<v Speaker 2>team that's been feeling themselves a little bit early. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they getting smacked in the mouth last night against

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<v Speaker 2>the Indiana Pacers shows them that they need to come

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<v Speaker 2>out and compete just like they did last year, every

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<v Speaker 2>single night and not think that there's a team that

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<v Speaker 2>they can just walk through and beat, especially when you've

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<v Speaker 2>got Zion who's gonna get absolutely picked on in the

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<v Speaker 2>pick and roll specifically, So I like that pick. I

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<v Speaker 2>am a little nervous about them, though. I'm nervous about

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<v Speaker 2>all those teams. I'm nervous about the MAVs in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of who's going to be the other primary scorer, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, teams just allowing Luca to have forty and

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<v Speaker 2>them losing. I'm worried about the Grizzlies without Jaron Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>The Grizzlies would probably be my picky because I think

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<v Speaker 2>when Jaron Jackson does come back, they're going to take

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<v Speaker 2>another step and they're winning games even without one of

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<v Speaker 2>their key pieces. All the other teams they're not missing anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Mavericks have their entire team, Pelicans have their

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<v Speaker 2>entire team. Now you could say they're getting Zion back

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<v Speaker 2>into the and integrated into the lineup. I know this

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<v Speaker 2>mount might sound crazy, but I think defensively, the Pelicans

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<v Speaker 2>are better without Zion, really I do. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a better defensive team without Zion on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Better defensive team, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Defensive team. Not a complete team, but just a defensive team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I think that's fair. I completely agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Which team do you think is built to actually to

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<v Speaker 1>make a run in the playoffs? All three of them?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think all three have have a legit chance. You

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<v Speaker 2>look at the Grizzlies, they could have beaten the Warriors.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't see Jaw healthy. He got hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you had a couple of fifty fifty balls

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<v Speaker 2>go down. So that is another one. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Pelicans could have very easily. There were some key moments.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they could have ended up beating the Phoenix

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<v Speaker 2>Suns in the first round. That would have been an

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<v Speaker 2>awesome matchup with the Mavericks. And then obviously the Mavericks

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<v Speaker 2>go to the Western Conference Finals. So and another fun

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<v Speaker 2>team that I'm not going to bet on, but a

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<v Speaker 2>team that you should definitely watch until the trade deadline

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<v Speaker 2>is the Spurs, Like the Spurs are a very fun team.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think they're going to be active at the deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think they're gonna be I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think they're gonna be sellers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've heard yaka pertl to the Boston Celtics,

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<v Speaker 2>which you would love.

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<v Speaker 1>God, that'd be a huge pickup. Because the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to bring up was you think about

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<v Speaker 1>the trade deadline, you think about some of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that might get moved, and then you think about the

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<v Speaker 1>act of obviously you know the owners and the general

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<v Speaker 1>managers that are going to be looking to sell or buy,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say at the deadline and this conference, the

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<v Speaker 1>Grizzlies are kind of set for the next couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>right because they have such a young core that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they're gonna move any of those guys unless

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<v Speaker 1>it was the right deal to be made. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you look at obviously Dallas and you have Mark Cuban

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<v Speaker 1>who's always super aggressive. But do you think there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a big name that's available at the deadline, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna end up happening with the Nets? We don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>With Kyrie and KD. But I don't think either of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys Kyrie. I was gonna say, he's not worth

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<v Speaker 1>a headache. I don't think anybody's gonna want Kyrie, even

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Cuban and he's him and Luca together, is not

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking to Andrew about this and he said was he's

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew are our brand manager. We were talking to him

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<v Speaker 2>friend of ours, and he basically said he would take

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie for the Minnesotamberwolves, which I wouldn't hate.

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<v Speaker 3>Kyrie is a good enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Point guard to say, all right, Kyrie, D'Angelo, Russell Aunt Edwards,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't Chicago.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know why you would.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be honest, there is a real possibility and isaological

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<v Speaker 2>reasoning behind the Nets deciding that they are going to

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<v Speaker 2>tank this year to get Scoot Henderson or someone because

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<v Speaker 2>this is the last year that they and the Houston

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<v Speaker 2>Rockets have a pit a pick swap, and Houston will

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<v Speaker 2>either get their own pick or they will get the

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<v Speaker 2>Nets pick, whichever one is better for them more advantagious.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Nets could very easily get the second or

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<v Speaker 2>third overall pick and they will have their own pick.

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<v Speaker 2>So tanking this year works for them, get rid of

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Durant, get rid of Kyrie Irving, use your own pick,

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<v Speaker 2>find or trade that pick for a star.

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<v Speaker 3>Figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>There's you trade Kevin Durant to Dallas to play with Luke.

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<v Speaker 2>That actually would be amazing. Christian would Yeah, that honestly

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<v Speaker 2>is an amazing trade. I think that's like really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>for this division. But this is the last year that

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<v Speaker 2>the Nets will have their own pick for a very

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<v Speaker 2>very long time. They'll have to have either the Sixers

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<v Speaker 2>pick or no pick at all. So I really do

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<v Speaker 2>like the Grizzlies though at plus one fifty, it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like when they get Jaron Jackson back and they have

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<v Speaker 2>enough pieces to make another move if they need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Pelicans five and five, Spurs five and six, Maverick six

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<v Speaker 2>and three, Grizzly seven and four. So they're all sort

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<v Speaker 2>of hovering between five and nine, kind of like right

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<v Speaker 2>around five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk Northwest Division winners in the NBA, and let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the futures market and what you would do

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<v Speaker 1>in that particular market. So looking at it right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the Nuggets pretty juicy, have your favorite and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty Timberwolves, who were my preseason pick plus three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>really quick. So you know, Brendon said the go Bear

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<v Speaker 1>move made him scratch his head, and while I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of agree, I also kind of understand what Minnesota was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I worried about the spacing because we saw in Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, with go Bear on the floor, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>rim protector. He's obviously solid defensively, but you know what

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<v Speaker 1>he is offensively, right, he's gonna be under the basket

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<v Speaker 1>in spacing is always gonna be kind of shummy. But

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it because Karl Anthony Towns couldn't stay out

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<v Speaker 1>of foul trouble in those big playoff games. Yeap, like

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<v Speaker 1>every game he had four fouls, three fouls in the

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<v Speaker 1>first half of the Yeah, where the hell's Karl Anthony Towns.

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<v Speaker 1>He had five fouls in the first half of an

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<v Speaker 1>NBA game. They were the game he fouled out in

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<v Speaker 1>the third quarter, Yes, in a playoff game. So I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of liked go Bear because then you could put

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<v Speaker 1>Cap back as a stretch for because he was playing

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<v Speaker 1>the five at times last year. So I didn't hate it.

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<v Speaker 3>But the team have him rom like Anthony Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's not a fit like, but do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's we're not even halfway through a season, probably

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<v Speaker 1>too early to consider blowing up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Carl Anthony Towns is soft, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he is, I think, no matter what.

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<v Speaker 3>And I like him as a person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he's been through a lot as a human being,

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<v Speaker 2>but as a player he's a b I b H.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in the money betting business and betting on Carl

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Towns to show up and be a man on

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<v Speaker 2>the court without Patrick Beverly up his ass at any moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Is now not a profitable endeavor. Aunt Edwards is hating him.

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<v Speaker 2>The Timberwolves are a bad bet. I think that probably

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<v Speaker 2>something is gonna have to change. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>Carl Anthony Towns can be trusted to be himself. He's

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<v Speaker 2>offensively looked horrible. Just the spacing's off. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>might say to yourself, well, the Jazz are sitting atop

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<v Speaker 2>the West. I think they do trade some guys away,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. Yeah, I think they trade Kanye. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they trade Jordan Clarkson. I think that they trade

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<v Speaker 2>some pieces that you know, maybe one out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of there, but don't But what if they don't, what

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<v Speaker 3>I would do is two things.

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<v Speaker 2>I would take the Blazers at plus five fifty and

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<v Speaker 2>I would take the Jazz at plus eight hundred. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I would do. That's what I think is a

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<v Speaker 2>good bet. I think those are very very good bets.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Blazers might be for.

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<v Speaker 1>Real any chance that they make a move. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's Portland, but just because they're trying to keep Dame.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they're happy with what they have. You

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<v Speaker 3>know this, do they need the team full of scrappers?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? Is a team full of scrappers. You know, Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Hart playing the three. I hated the move, but even

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<v Speaker 2>at six six six seven, he's just tough. He's gritty,

0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.080
<v Speaker 2>he can hit tiny shots. He hit a game winner

0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.639
<v Speaker 2>last night against the Miami Heat with no time left

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<v Speaker 2>on the clock, which I thought was huge, just like

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<v Speaker 2>buzzer beater style.

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<v Speaker 3>You've gotten to, sir little who's doing things.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremy Grant's been awesome, like just really defensively, a really

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<v Speaker 2>great four for us.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's just a ton of depth.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a very deep, very athletic team and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't need Dame in order to win games.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's huge and they still need to get trend

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<v Speaker 3>and wat for back there.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I actually would play Portland plus five fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm going to I like the price, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like the Nuggets are going to run away

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<v Speaker 1>with North.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, no, like minus one fifty seems a little insane.

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<v Speaker 3>That seems crazy to me. That seems crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta be honest, I'm playing I'd play Portland. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>not Portland. I would play Portland plus five fifty, especially

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<v Speaker 1>over the day. Well, I don't hate the Timberwolves plus three.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I still think that they don't salvage this.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Lakers, way too much talent, but they

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<v Speaker 1>have young talent. Like that, the Lakers are dead because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bunch of old dudes.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you like who do you like on this team?

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<v Speaker 3>Besides Edwards d Russ Russell? You like Digelo Russell?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I like the bone Arrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, he's maybe one of the worst players

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<v Speaker 3>on this team. Yeah, they don't have a point guard.

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<v Speaker 3>They need a point guard. They don't have one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, this team is I think this team is

0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:07.359
<v Speaker 2>absolutely cooked.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish so. No, I'm not gonna bet the Thunder

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<v Speaker 1>this year, but I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't wait to like when they decide twenty five, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they just have so much talent. But the thing is, like,

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<v Speaker 1>is Shay gonna be on this team when it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to start? So that's what he said, committed, But I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like when when it's finally time, he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty second year, that's next year.

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<v Speaker 3>Next year they'll get Victor Wambanyama or shot.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't shad enough though.

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<v Speaker 3>They're four and six right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, but is that bad enough?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We're I mean, you know what they do trade deadline,

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<v Speaker 2>they shut everyone down, and they lose the next twenty games.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually surprised they haven't shut everybody down yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Four and six right now, the Thunder are. The Timberwolves

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<v Speaker 2>are five and six. The Blazers getting no respect. There's

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<v Speaker 2>seven and three plus five fifty. Nuggets are also seven

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<v Speaker 2>and three, so to be what minus one fifty?

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't do it. Yeah, I mean, ten games

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<v Speaker 1>into an eighty two game season's still seventy two games

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Injuries happen obvious. I mean, especially with Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the last couple of years, it's been Nicole

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<v Speaker 1>jokicch and nobody else. Yeah, Jamal Murray just coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>I do love Bones though.

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<v Speaker 3>He's fun, he's got a cool name. But that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I would do. That's the best. Those are the bets

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<v Speaker 3>that you need, honestly, those are That's the bet.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the best bet on the board right now is

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<v Speaker 2>the Blazers plus by fifty. I mean, hell, maybe Danny

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<v Speaker 2>Ainge says, yeah, like, we'll let this team go as

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<v Speaker 2>far as they take us.

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<v Speaker 3>We're the number one seed in the West, so be it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. It's not like they're gonna be like

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<v Speaker 1>buyers at the deadline or anything. If anything, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sell off parts. They're not going to add a piece.

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<v Speaker 1>So you would have to like this roster like as

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<v Speaker 1>is as is, and I don't enough. I mean, a

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<v Speaker 1>nice story, right, and the guy's playing hard. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying they can't make a run to the playoffs as

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<v Speaker 1>an eight seed or a playing team, but eventually the

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<v Speaker 1>Warriors are gonna start taking the regular season seriously, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, eventually. I don't know if I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like if Minnesota is going to figure it out, Memphis

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<v Speaker 1>is just fine. They've just lost a couple of games

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<v Speaker 1>that you expect them to lose. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the Eastern Conference more this year.

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