1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Hello Batch, our Happy Hour. We're back again this week 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: with another recap of what is the Snow episode? Drea Michelle. Yes, 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: I feel wow, this is going fast. It is I will. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: I feel like I was gonna say it's already like 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: episode four or five, but we're still fresh. And I 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: think the like weirdness of it all is because like 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: we've had two seasons combined in one that's now kind 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: of sweating. So I'm like, what week are we How 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: many guys do we have left? I'm all over the 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: board here, You're not the only one. I'm so happy 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: to be back with you. Last week we had a 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: really good chat with Nate, and now today I'm excited 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: because we are getting to talk to the man who 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: swept Rachel off her feet this week, Zach. Plus we 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: also get to talk to Ashley Cook, and she's here 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: to tell us about her performance on the show How 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: that wentz and her insider perspective on what happened when 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: Rachel showed up alone. Yeah, I mean and for all 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: of the listeners, Ashley Cook, she was actually one of 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: the performers last week, which I know feels like forever ago. 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: So we're gonna bring her on. I'm so excited to 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: chat with both her but also Zach too. I always 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: love to get like the insider background information from the 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: guys of like stuff that we didn't see, So that 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: will be those two will be on very shortly. But 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: before we do that, let's just get into last night's episode. 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: I don't think we need to give like a full 28 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: recap here, but I know you and I had chatted 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: a little bit before this and we have a few 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: key points of the topics that we want to discuss. 31 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: Let's just start it off fun on the best note 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: and just get into Gabby's one on one date. Not 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: only did she have Eric, but she did say threes 34 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: a crowd, and we see a face that we have 35 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: been missing since clean season, and that is Grandpa John. 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: How excited were you to see him again? He's like 37 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: the all star of this episode. I will say that, 38 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, him and him and Franco are like the 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: two When I was taking notes last night and this morning, 40 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: I was like, these are the only two people I 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: want to talk about because I love both of these 42 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: men so much. But yeah, we saw Grandpa John again. 43 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: What a fun date? Right? Like I mean, I would 44 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: have loved to have any family member at least at 45 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: some point throughout my season come on a day with 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: me just to get a vibe, because I feel like 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: they always give such great insight, they can kind of 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: cut any awkwardness out of there, and I mean, they 49 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: know Grandpa John knows Gabby best. So I think it 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 1: was great, a great little like addition for this week, 51 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: especially after you know, we saw her go through some 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: ups and the downs, and I feel like Grandpa John 53 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: just came in for the win. It's just no one agree, 54 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: It's just like it's so it's such a different situation 55 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: when you're going through this process and you're legitimately like 56 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: looking for a person that you're gonna spend the rest 57 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: of your life with. And typically when you go through 58 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: anything like that, like you have family and friends buy 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: you to like confide and talk to and work through 60 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: your emotions. And it's such a just different aspect to 61 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: go through this and not have that. So for him 62 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: to come in and be there, like just have some 63 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: type of familiarity with Gabby, I think that was really 64 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: good for her. But then also it's like a really 65 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: good just time or opportunity for the guys to truly 66 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: understand or get to know more about Gabby and just 67 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: a quicker manner, right, because it's like you talk about 68 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: these different conversations and these relationships, but it also feels 69 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: different when you're like there with everybody. Yeah. Well, and 70 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: I think it's so great to have any sort of 71 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: family member or friend. I feel like they should do 72 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: this a lot more often actually on the season because 73 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: and for both not only the leads, but also the 74 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: contestant side of things, because I feel like you besides hometowns, 75 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: you don't get that, and I feel like you learn 76 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: and see so much of somebody, and like, I think 77 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: to actually build a solid relationship, you need to see 78 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: that banter. You need to see how they interact with 79 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: people outside of the show, like you know, because for 80 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: the most part, you're totally disconnected. You don't have completely 81 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: any phone, you don't have any emails, you don't have 82 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: any way to contact people who you're close with, And 83 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: so I feel like bringing people in more often just 84 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: to actually see how they interact and how do they 85 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: joke with somebody that they know that they've known for 86 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: a while. Like, I think it's so important and I 87 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: think it could help on both ends, like really solidify 88 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: certain relationships. So I was so happy. It was such 89 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: a random date do that Grandpa John go on and 90 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: they like did this meditation sound bath and then they 91 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: were bowling and dropped. My favorite part though, was when 92 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: they first saw Grandpa John and picked him up and 93 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: they put him in the backseat middle and he's just 94 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: sitting there bouncing in the back with the little him 95 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: different though, but I was like, damn, Eric, at least 96 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: give him like shotgun. I don't know, I don't know 97 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: if her grandpa had the choice. I loved it though. 98 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: I was like my favorite part of the episode. I 99 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: was just like I was in the middle of movie 100 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: as I was watching this, so I'm like packing up stuff. 101 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: But the second I heard Grandpa John, I was like, 102 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: I gotta just stop what I'm doing just to watch. 103 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: And who knows. I mean, Grandpa John seemed to hit 104 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: it off with the woman at the bowling alley. I mean, 105 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: I think I said this on last season's podcast, but 106 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: I would love Grandpa John for if they ever do 107 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: the senior Batch her show. This man better be on 108 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: the show. This man better be the lead. He needs 109 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: to season. Okay, okay, I could talk about Grandpa John forever, 110 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: but I do want to talk about two other men 111 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: that I know we both have thoughts on, and that 112 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: is Hayden and Jacob, Because as we saw at the 113 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: after party following the massive group date, Gabby was having 114 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: a rocky night and it had a lot to do 115 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: with several of the guys. I don't even think it 116 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: was the guys coming up to her and being like, 117 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: you're great. But I think I'm leaning towards Rachel. I 118 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: think she would have been fine had that been the conversation, 119 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: but they both said certain things that seemed to rub 120 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: Gabby the wrong way, seemed to rub Rachel the wrong 121 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: way when she heard about it. I think I would 122 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: hope that any viewer hearing certain things of what they 123 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: said would be rubbed the wrong way. Because I definitely 124 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: what were your thoughts on Hayden telling Gabby she's refer 125 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: it was just like the way that it was presented, 126 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: and this is like, this is my issue with not 127 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: in my issue, But I really do feel like in 128 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: this episode, like Gabby, you did a really good job 129 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: of explaining and clarifying what it is to go through 130 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: this process. You do really put everything into this and 131 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: you spend so much time in like talking about your feelings, 132 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: talking about all these different things, right, you put so 133 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: so so much in it, and then like for people 134 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 1: just come to come in and not be as open 135 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: as you are, because what's hard is it's like it 136 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: is a two way street. So yes, Gabby and Rachel 137 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: are really truly being open too. I feel like a 138 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: lot of these different men and knowing that connections can 139 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: change like that, and I'm starting to get the feeling 140 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: like that the guys are really not staying open to 141 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: that and being rough around the edges is not necessarily 142 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: a negative trait, and I think that's what Gabby seemed 143 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: to be the most hurt about, is the fact that like, 144 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, like that's the thing that I love about 145 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: her is she steps into this position and she says 146 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: what's on her mind and she's unapologetically herself and that's 147 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: exactly what you want, Like you don't want this perfect bachelorette, 148 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: and you know she does that. And then for someone 149 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: to be like your rough ground the edges and like 150 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: just like our moral tone aren't the same or whatever 151 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: it is. I'm just like, dude, Also, like there are 152 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: so many words you can use to describe somebody or 153 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: to articulate how you feel. And I don't think Haydn 154 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: understands what rough around the edges means like, and I 155 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: would love to sit him down in front of us 156 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: and to be like, what the hell do you mean 157 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: by saying Gabby reffron the edges, because no edges means 158 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: not what we've seen in Gabby whatsoever. Like if he's 159 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: going off of a comparison between these two women, between 160 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: Gabby and Rachel, like it's very apparent that Gabby is 161 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: more so the type of person to just say things 162 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: off the cuff, right, and to just say what she's 163 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: feeling and thinking and kind of just let it fly, 164 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: which I find I mean, I personally love that. I 165 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: find it like so endearing. And I don't know what 166 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: he means by like from what she's shown us, like 167 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: what is rough about her? Like she's she's more vocal 168 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: and she'll maybe curse a little bit more and like 169 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: make jokes. But like that That's why when he said that, 170 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: I was like, sir, you could have said so many 171 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: different things and he didn't even need to say that. 172 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: You could have just said I appreciate both of you 173 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: being here and the time that you've given me, but 174 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: I have a better connection with Rachel and then just 175 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: shut up, like that's all he had to say. He 176 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: didn't need to like dis her, and like I felt 177 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: for Gabby in that situation me too. It was it 178 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: was I think what it was. It was it was 179 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: showcased in a way where it seemed like a lesser value, 180 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: and like that was my issue, right and again like comparing, 181 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: and when I said, like the technically, like who'se we've 182 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: talked about, we didn't want to see these two women 183 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: pitted against each other and I knew regardless at some 184 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: point in the season that was going to happen. And 185 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: this is just one example of that of like these 186 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: guys kind of being like, well, I have this one 187 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: and I have this one, and how am I comparing 188 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: the two? Which, like you can, you can compartmentalize your 189 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: relationships and your feelings for both women. But he just 190 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: he could have gone about it in a much better way. 191 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: But I saw that conversation as a reflection of him, 192 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: not a reflection of Gabby. Oh one thousand percent, yeah, 193 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: But the conversation really irked me. It wasn't necessarily with Hayden. 194 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: It was actually with Jacob because he didn't even say 195 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: much like and Jacob since night one when he was 196 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: reading his list, I was like, Jacob just stopped, like 197 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: this is not your season. But when Jacob goes, uh, 198 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, I'm more into Rachel, like and if it 199 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: was just you here, I'd probably send myself home. But 200 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: you're smoking hot go and cake dirt, Jacob, like that 201 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: is gonna make That's my thing? Is where did you 202 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: learn that? Like, Okay, cool things like that's not going 203 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: to make any woman in that situation feel remotely better. 204 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: Like again, just stop talking while you're ahead. It just 205 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: makes like it makes no sense. It makes no sense. 206 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: And it's like the situation where like sometimes I feel 207 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: like relationships, relationships and even the shows like it's romanticized, right, 208 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: and it's like those are things that can be a 209 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: part of relationships and can be this like magical thing, 210 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: but like this is the man that rode in on 211 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: a horse like night like that that's what you do 212 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: with I just don't like that, you know, is that 213 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, if we're going off of like the Notebook 214 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: and all these romantic novels. That's not a part of it, 215 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: you know whatever. I don't. I think it was oh god, 216 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: it was clearentatious sis. And there was one guy I 217 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: don't even need to say his name because he doesn't 218 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: need any more attention. But there was one guy who 219 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: was like, she's a smoke show. It's like, that's exactly 220 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: what this felt like. Like I'm not vibing with you, 221 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: but you're still hot. It's like cool, thanks, bro, Like 222 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just it's like they feel like 223 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: that that's what we want to hear. It's like that's 224 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: not all. No one wants to hear that, like and 225 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: like put value on her personality or how charismatic she 226 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: is or anything other than like, oh you look great 227 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: on the outside. Like so like when Gabby told Rachel 228 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: kind of what was said, I feel like Rachel is 229 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: such a good loyal friend. Like even though she did 230 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean, she did not give a rose to Jacob, thankfully, 231 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: but she did give a rose to Hayden. I don't 232 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: think he's gonna I mean, I would hope he doesn't 233 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: stick around very long. I feel like when she was 234 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: giving that rose, I was like, I just want her 235 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: to be able to have a conversation with him and 236 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: call him out and ask him why he said what 237 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: he said in the way he said it, and then 238 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: just you know, be gone too with him. But we'll see. 239 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: Those are like the main highlights I took away from 240 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 1: this episode. I mean, damn it, it's wild. Well, I 241 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: think it will definitely help now that they're going to 242 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: be split up. It'll be interesting to watch, I really, 243 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: I will say though, I am enjoying the dynamics of 244 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: having two leads way more than I thought I would. 245 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: I think this once they're separated, I think it'll be 246 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: much easier to see love stories unfold and it's not 247 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: going to be quite so messy. But we'll just have 248 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: to get into all that and see how it goes 249 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: next week. In the meantime, I'm excited to talk to 250 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: Ashley Cook. She's going to call in to share all 251 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: of the details about her new song with Brett Young. 252 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: It's called Never Till Now, and she'll also spill all 253 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: of the tea from her performance during Rage and Jordan's 254 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: one on one last week. And I can't wait to 255 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: hear her thoughts and what she was feeling when she 256 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: saw just Rachel, come in. Welcome Ashley, how are you doing, 257 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: and welcome to the show. Thank you so much. I'm 258 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: doing so great. It is ridiculously hot Nashville, so I'm 259 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: like trying to like, like I just like get a 260 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: little cooler. I'm like, defrost. It's not the right word, 261 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: but you'll look like you're glowing in that Nashville heat 262 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: um where we were actually just talking about this and 263 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: we're excited to have you on because I feel like, 264 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, we've seen people perform on the show every season, 265 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: but I feel like you are one of the first 266 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: to come on the podcast because you had an interesting situation. 267 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: You thought you were going to perform for a happy 268 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: couple after this lovely romantic one on one date, and 269 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: you only got Rachel. You only got one person walking in, So, like, 270 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: take me back to that performance that night. What were 271 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: what was going to your mind when only Rachel stepped 272 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: through those stores. I mean it was wild, you know. 273 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean we had been told that it was going 274 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: to be this romantic date and they had this little 275 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: stage set up right in front of our stage that 276 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: the couple could dance and hang out and have you know, 277 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: have the whole romantic moment, and my song never Till 278 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: Now is a love song. It's about you know, you 279 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: finally found your person, which is beautiful. By the way, 280 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: I have to say that it's beautiful, thank you so much. 281 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: But I mean, it was definitely a shock, and you know, 282 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: it's funny seeing like Twitter and Instagram blow up with 283 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: all these like empty you know, if theater like all 284 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: this stuff. But honestly, it kind of turned out to 285 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: be more special in a weird way because you know, backtrack, 286 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: I had written ever Till Now about a manifestation for 287 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: the kind of person that I wanted. It wasn't about 288 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: somebody I had met. I was single at the time. 289 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm still single, still looking for that kind of like 290 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: forever love. And so it ended up being Rachel's story too, 291 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: which was really cool that you know, it went from oh, 292 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: I found my person and this beautiful kind of you know, 293 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: you've seen it a million times first date dance thing 294 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: to wow, okay, like I'm I'm brave enough to know 295 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: when it's not right and to know that I haven't 296 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: found this never till Now. So it really was a 297 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: beautiful night and it kind of felt like a sound 298 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: check in a lot of ways because it was just 299 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: like Rachel in the very back of the theater. So, 300 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't it wasn't awkward, it wasn't strange. 301 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: It was just kind of like a real life these 302 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: are real humans kind of moment that ended up being 303 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: really had you thought about like that this might be 304 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean, did you watch well first, did you watch 305 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: the show? Have you watched the show before performing on 306 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: the show. I've watched a couple of seasons. Um. I 307 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: was in a sorority in college. We used to always 308 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: have like a watch parties. But I've had some I've 309 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: had some friends on the show before, so I've watched 310 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: like a few seasons, but I'm not like an avid 311 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: watcher of it. I would you say, did it ever 312 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: cross your mind that it might be like the opera 313 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: or the it potentially could just be the bachelor walking 314 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: in by herself, or that didn't cross your mind until 315 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: like it happened, you know, or like does he going 316 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: to the bathroom as he like, where's yet? Not at all? 317 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: I did not think. I honestly was like, no, no, 318 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: this is just how it's going to go. You know, 319 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: this is a date like the whole reason that we're 320 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: here performing is to like make this special kind of 321 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: like concert for this couple. I also don't know if 322 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: that's ever happened before. I think we're the first one 323 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: that's happened to. I don't know, check me on that. 324 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: We I think it. I swear it's happened before. I 325 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: think it was maybe a Katie season or somebody. I 326 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: don't know, I happened happened before. But like the cool 327 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: part is that you're the first time that, like one 328 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: of the performers is able to come on the podcast 329 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: and kind of talk about that. Um, yeah, I mean 330 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: I we will somebody will call us out on social 331 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: media or after this past comes out to be like 332 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: this has happened four other times this season and this season, 333 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: so we will. We will be checked very lately. Did 334 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: you have the opportunity afterwards to talk to Rachel's and 335 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: actually tell Rachel what you just told us off like 336 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: you wrote it to manifest somebody in the future and 337 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: of like that how it kind of could not like 338 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: bonded you, but I guess it, Yeah, felt that could. Gosh, 339 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember exactly what we talked about. I 340 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: did meet her afterwards, and we got to hang out 341 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: for a minute, and I remember telling her like, hey, 342 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: you know, like it's I'm in the same boat, like 343 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's gonna be what it's gonna be, 344 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: and I'm like proud of you for knowing what isn't right, 345 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: even though he seemed like a great guy whatever, you know. 346 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know if we have the 347 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: chance to talk about the fact that it really did 348 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: it was the exact same situation that I wrote it for. Um. 349 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: But I think that she, you know, in that moment, 350 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: you could just tell, you know, we performed to her, 351 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: so I can see what feeling, you know, what she 352 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: was thinking, and you could tell in her mind she 353 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: was just kind of like introspectively, you know, realizing like wow, okay, 354 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: like I deserve this kind of love. You know this 355 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: these lyrics in this song are what I'm looking for. 356 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: And I had to make the call to like, you know, 357 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: keep on this journey and not settle for somebody that 358 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: isn't that person. UM. So you know, even if we 359 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: didn't say it, I think it was kind of the 360 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: unspoken thing that she just kind of felt. Mind, I 361 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: knew she felt and I've felt before so really special. 362 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: I think the awesome thing for me anyways, is the 363 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: fact that anytime that like musical performances or anything like 364 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: that has been involved, it really does break through almost 365 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: like the awkwardness of like you're on a TV show 366 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, there's producers and camera 367 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: people that are like watching you. Anytime there's been like 368 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: live music involved, it really has just like become my focus. 369 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: And it sounds like the same thing for like just 370 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: see you and Rachel, regardless of the circumstances of who 371 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: is standing there and dancing, but really being able to 372 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: take that moment to actually reflect with what was going 373 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: on and embracing just what is the now and what's 374 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: here now, and to watching the episode back hearing her, 375 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: you know during the song, you know, getting emotional and saying, 376 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to be Rachel the Bachelorette. I just 377 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: want to be Rachel. I love that because it just, 378 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, even when we were filming it and all 379 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: of everything that you know went down with the episode, 380 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: it just reminded everybody that you know, these are humans. 381 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: These are not just people that are acting on a 382 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: show that are you know, do it to get attention 383 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: or whatever. Like they're real people looking for real love 384 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: and real connection, and like, I think it just kind 385 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: of humanized the whole thing to see that process and 386 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: hear the song and really just have that moment. So 387 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: I love the way that it all played out, and 388 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: I really hope that she found somebody great by the 389 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: end of the season. You know, I don't know, so 390 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: you have seen this past episode, are there any standout 391 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: guys that you would potentially pick or see working with 392 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: Gabby or Rachel. I was kind of surprised that she 393 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: didn't stick it out with Jordan because watching that that day, 394 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: like right before we performed, I mean, it was kind 395 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: of it was kind of an interesting I was like, man, 396 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: this this guy's really cute and me super cool and 397 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: but again, it just shows like you know, you know 398 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: when you know, when you know, you know when it's 399 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: the right person. So but yeah, I mean I have 400 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: to keep watching to figure it out. It's still fresh 401 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: because like I feel like, you just meet these people, 402 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: need to like make a call if you like them 403 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: or if you don't like them. Right away. It was difficult, 404 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: Like I'm the most person on the planet, so I 405 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: think I feel like the worst bachelorette the world because 406 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: I'd be like, they're all great. Wait, actually wanted to 407 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: ask you this because you said several times now that 408 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: you are still single looking for the right one. At 409 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: some point, would you ever come on the show? Oh gosh, 410 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: that's like Paradise. Yeah it's a contestant. Yeah, Bachelor in 411 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: Paradise twenty twenty three. You know, I don't know. No, 412 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: you got to be a contested first before Paradise. No, 413 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: you don't. We're just gonna shake up the rules. Okay, 414 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I think it. No, she could clearly 415 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: run her own bachelorette show. I mean, you never know, 416 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: actually try, but like, you know, I don't know. I 417 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: think ittte. I'm like, I don't know. Gosh, She's like, 418 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: I'll come on and just perform in the background the 419 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: entire time and sing to everyone. I'll serenade. I don't think. 420 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would mind. All right, Ashley, So 421 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: before we let you go, let everyone know where they 422 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: can find you on social where they can find your album, 423 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: If you have any fun upcoming performances, like give us 424 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: the whole shebang? Yeah for sure. So pretty much across 425 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: the board. All my socials are just at the Ashley 426 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: Cook with an E on the end. Cook and I 427 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: have a project that came out last year that's like 428 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: eight songs that I'm super super proud of and I 429 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: just signed a record deal a couple of months ago, 430 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: and so we're working on I like debut album, Thank 431 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: You so Much. So exciting, very exciting. You know. I 432 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: have a new song coming out really soon, and I 433 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: have a whole project following right after it, and then 434 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm going on tour with Cole Swindell, who's an amazing 435 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: country artist. I'm opening up for Luke Bryan for a 436 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: couple of shows, So a lot of shows coming up 437 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: in the next couple of months and tour with Cole 438 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: and really just new music and touring is my life 439 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: for the next year or so. So if you want 440 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: to come see a show or hell yeah, hell yeah, yes, 441 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: I love that. So yes, everyone check out the Ashley 442 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: Cook on social and hopefully we'll see more of you. 443 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: It was so fun to have Ashley on though and 444 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: talk to her briefly. But we got to bring on 445 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: the man of the Hour this week, mister Zach, who 446 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: had the very special very romantic one on one with Rachel. 447 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: So let's get Zach on here now. Welcome Zach, and 448 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: welcome to Bachelor Happy Howe. We're really excited to have you. 449 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: Are you nervous? Very? I don't every time we have 450 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: one of you guys on since we've started this new 451 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: season recap, you guys are also nervous. I'm like, we 452 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: are the easiest podcast to talk to, not me only Becca. 453 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't even bite. It's like you have two good 454 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: cops here. You will be in great hand, Zach. And 455 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: we're actually really excited to have you on because right 456 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: before we brought you on, I was talking about how 457 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: special and unique and romantic first date was with Rachel. Um. 458 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: So before we get into all of that, how did 459 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: you get on the show? Were you a fan of 460 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: of it before? Did you? Did somebody reach out and 461 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: ask you to apply? Yeah? So I didn't hear much 462 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: of you know, Bachelor too much. I mean, my sister 463 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: h and my mom are big fans. But other than that, I, 464 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, just wasn't necessarily tuned into it. And I'd 465 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: been in a relationship for you know, quite some time, 466 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: and about two years ago I was single. You know, 467 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: working on myself and I had a friend of mine, 468 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: actually Daniel Tulley from the franchise UM nominate me to 469 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: be on the show. And I thought, you know, what 470 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: better time than now. I'm ready to get back in 471 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: the dating, you know scene. But I mean, what are 472 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: the chances I actually, you know, make it on? And 473 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: there you go and just came out of you know, 474 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: nowhere and look at you now. Yeah, I mean it 475 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: was pretty pretty quick, but you know, all thanks to Daniel. 476 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: Really Okay, where and where are you based? Where are 477 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: you from? So? I'm originally from California Hills, but I've 478 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: been living in Austin for the past couple of years 479 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, you know, where I want to 480 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: live next. Austin's great, but you know, see where I 481 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: want to go next? Wait? Are you perhaps waiting to 482 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: figure out where you want to go next? Because you 483 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: ended up with Rachel and you guys are just hiding together? 484 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: What's the next question? Keeping this on our toes? I 485 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: like it? Well? So, okay, so you said he said 486 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: a friend Daniel right um with did he have to wait? 487 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: First of all, did he tell you that he nominated you? 488 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: Or did you like receive like a phone call or message, 489 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: and then it came about and then he was like, oh, 490 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: by the way, so Daniel was on your season, Michelle Firefighter, 491 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: right firefighter? Correct, Like he's the one. He's the one 492 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: that came in on that a little toy player fighter. 493 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: And then PJ was if I gave him the real one? Yeah, 494 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: they did him dirty on that. I'll tell you to 495 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: your question. He you know, he came back from you know, 496 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: the show and he had a great experience, and um, 497 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: he's like, hey, I'm I'm gonna throw your hat in 498 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: the ring. Um you know, I'm not gonna like stop 499 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: you Like, I'm gonna at least put your name in 500 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: there and then you decide if you want to pursue 501 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: it or not. And I thought, you know, like what's 502 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: going to hurt from this? You know, I'm at that 503 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: point where I'm ready for this, you know, ready to 504 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: find my person. And what great you know opportunity would 505 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: be like on the Bachelorette, So you should be happy 506 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: opportunity to find your person or persons. Like, at what 507 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: point when you found out that there were two bachelorettes? 508 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on that? When I found out 509 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: there were two. My stomach dropped. I was like, how 510 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: do you actually do this now? Like it it feels 511 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: like it's already you know such you know a A, 512 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: it's a it's a tough situation and there's a lot 513 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: of pressure and and you, um, you know, you want 514 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: to make the most of the situation and find a 515 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: connection with that person. And now you have two there 516 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: and you have to start to figure out, you know, 517 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: who is going to be my person, which one of 518 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: these two because they're both incredible women, and you know, 519 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: it's nerve racking when you first meet them, like coming 520 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: out of the limo and you're like, wow, how how 521 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: am I going to do this? Like you don't you 522 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: kind of learn on the fly. Um, But I mean overall, 523 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: it was just it was incredible. So as if it 524 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: wasn't hard enough classes Okay, wait, so remind us remind 525 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: back and I just because there are just so many 526 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: things going on that first night, remind us. What was 527 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: your entrance again for those who are listening, Yeah, so 528 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 1: I was first out of the limo and I just 529 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: went for you know, showing myself. I didn't want to 530 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: do any you know, gimmicks or any jokes. I was 531 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: wanting to introduce myself as who I am and get 532 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: to know both of these women, and right when I 533 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: got out of the limo, I blocked out completely, As 534 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: everyone says, like I don't even know what I really said, 535 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: Like I was like, oh my gosh, like look at 536 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: you too, like this is unreal. I can't wait to 537 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: get to know you. I actually forgot my name and 538 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: Rachel called me out on that one. And we've all 539 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: been there, Yep, we've all blacked out. Daniel, couldn't give 540 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: you any tips. No, there's nothing that can prepare you 541 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: for that, like initial foot out, the limo scene, everything like, 542 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: there's nothing. Um, so I want to know, like, how 543 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: early on did you know that it was gonna be Rachel, 544 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: like right away night one, after you talked to her, 545 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: were you still potentially open to Gabby or was it 546 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: really after your first one on one that you were like, 547 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm in it's done. It's Rachel, that's it. So actually, 548 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: at night one, I didn't have the chance to speak 549 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: with either of the women. I was one of the 550 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: many that, um, you know, thought we were going to 551 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: go home. We just we didn't get the chance. And 552 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: I remember, you know, talking to Nate saying like, hey, 553 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: it was nice getting to know you, but we're going, oh, 554 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: I guess like they don't know who who we are. Um. 555 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't until the next cocktail party, UM that I 556 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: actually met Rachel and we did a knee golfer put 557 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: put golf up front of the mansion. And from then on, 558 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean we had just this spark and connection. We 559 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: were laughing, having a great time and and they you know, 560 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: it's it's not strange to say, but it was. It 561 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: was crazy how quick I knew. I was like, all right, 562 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: like I'm here for her, Like that's it's pretty clear, 563 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: Like I I don't need you know, anything else, any 564 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: other you know, validation for this, Like I think she's 565 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: the ones for this. So the one when you when 566 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: you started that date, which we'll get into this full 567 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: on one on one date that you guys had together, 568 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: like right away when you saw each other, you just 569 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: like started making out. And I was like, is this 570 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: the first time we've seen them kiss? Because it definitely 571 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: can't be because we know it's happened if they're like 572 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: this close and intimate already. I was kind of taken 573 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: aback when I was like, Okay, they clearly have something 574 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: going on that we just not have seen not we 575 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: have not seen enough of yet. And that's why I 576 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: was so excited to watch you two on the day, 577 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: just to see how everything went down. You had such 578 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: a cool freaking date. Seriously, seriously, Oh how star struck 579 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: were you with not even the fact that you met Kamo, 580 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: but that he styled you. You guys were like having 581 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: footpaths drinking champagne together, Like what was going I think 582 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: you said, I think you said. What did you say? 583 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: Like I've never done anything like this before. But it's 584 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: like you realize that if like you end up with 585 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: Ragel or yeah, if you end up with Rachel, right, 586 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: like like red Carpets are this is now your it 587 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be it. I mean it was pretty cool. 588 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't mean to scare you, no, I mean it was. 589 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean it was an incredible date. I had no 590 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: idea what to expect, you know, seeing Karamo, I was like, 591 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: I know that guy, Like that guy's a big deal, 592 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: and you know, what are we doing? What's this movie 593 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: premiere we're preparing for? And you know, everything from the 594 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: spa or the foot cleansed thing. I mean, I've never 595 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: done that before. I was I think my fingers were 596 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: like curled up, my toes were curled up. I was like, 597 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is unreal. Um. And then it 598 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: just it just gradually like I felt more comfortable because 599 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: it was, you know, a lot real quick. And I mean, 600 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm not one that's really great with style per se 601 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 1: and Karamo you know, didn't me right so the first out, 602 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: but you came out and it was a little iffy 603 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: that first one. I was like, oh, did you like 604 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: at the first out? It no, no, what I showed 605 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: up in. No. No, I remember like just immediately like, 606 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: oh this is this one's gonna hurt. Yeah, But I 607 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: think I think about those situations though, is it. It's 608 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: like it is such a weird, like uncomfortable different situation. 609 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: But as long as you can like be somewhat comfortable 610 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: with the person you're with, and that also shows a lot. Yeah, 611 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: And Rachel made me feel so comfortable with it because 612 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: it was it was an uncomfortable situation like I'm not 613 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, one to you know, go about this crazy 614 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: extravagance um date really and uh, she throughout the whole 615 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: process was there and and you know, walking me through it, 616 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: like making sure I'm comfortable, making sure I'm you know, 617 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: enjoying it, which I was. It was just really intense 618 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: at first, and I mean it was like the most 619 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: magical date I've ever had. Becca, you went on the 620 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: shopping date, didn't you. Well, so Zach as you're as 621 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: you're talking through just like how uncomfortable parts of parts 622 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: of that date were uncomfortable. I can totally relate my 623 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: I got the first one on one date of the 624 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: season that I was on, and um, and it was 625 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: so outside of my comfort zone because it was like 626 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: a full on pampering date with champagne. We had. We 627 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: had a designers their Rachel Zoe, who literally like, I 628 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: mind you, I'm coming from Minnesota, Like, don't spend a 629 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: lot of money, I don't go over the top. I'm 630 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: straight out of Minnesota. And Rachel Zoe and her team 631 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: literally take off my clothes so I'm in just my 632 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: underwear Tit's out in front of Rachel Zoe and I'm like, um, 633 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: is this what this entire season is going to be? 634 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: Because I'm not used to be naked in front of 635 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: many people? Like what the fuck's going on, like so uncomfortable, 636 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: But I like, I'm sure you kind of just had 637 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: to like flip into this mindset, which is which is 638 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: what I tried to do, of like this is a 639 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: once in a lifetime opportunity and like no one else 640 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: is ever going to be able to experience this. So 641 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: instead of like feeling awkward and uncomfortable, I'm just gonna 642 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: embrace it and just go with it because we're here, 643 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: I'm naked, about to get dressed and all these cool styles. Like, 644 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: was it was there that point I know that you said, 645 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: Rachel kind of helped you just like feel more comfortable 646 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: than at ease. And luckily you guys, you know you're 647 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: holding hands throughout the date. We all noticed it. But 648 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: was there like that mindset switch that you're just like, 649 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go all in and like make this 650 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: the best day possible for not only me but for 651 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: this incredible woman. Yeah. Absolutely, Like right at the beginning, 652 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: you know, we're doing the foot massage cleans and it's 653 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: it's still really tough to open up, and you know, 654 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: we're you know, eating snacks, and then when we were 655 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: actually trying on the outfits, I remember being and just thinking, 656 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 1: you know, like this is an incredible opportunity. There's there's 657 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: no reason for me to be really scared or nervous. 658 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: Rachel's incredible, this is an incredible experience. I'm just it 659 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: is going to be in the moment, enjoy it. I mean, 660 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: obviously it's unique and once in a lifetime. And Karma's 661 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: right out there giving me a VERSACEI or whatever suit 662 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: there is, and I'm like I came in in a 663 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: T shirt and jeans, like right, and this is not 664 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: typically what I do. But there's a moment where it 665 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: just clicks and you enjoy it. So I think it's right. 666 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: I think it's the well, it's it's an abnormal situation 667 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: that honestly a lot of people don't get to experience, 668 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: and so like being nervous and uncomfortable is normal and 669 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: a part of it. It's just like if that allows, 670 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: if you allow that to affect how you like embrace 671 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: the experience, I think that's when it's you know, a 672 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: tough part with that. But I really I really want 673 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: to know more about like what Karma said, like what 674 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: is the best advice that he gave you? And Rachel 675 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: Karma was great first off, he's hilarious in person. I mean, 676 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: the guy who just not stopped cracking jokes. But to 677 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: be honest, right, you know, right in the the very 678 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: beginning of it, you know, we went straight to it. 679 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: We were really just, um, you know, addressing um, you know, 680 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: Rachel's past and what had happened earlier, and you know 681 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: what I'm going to do differently, And it was really 682 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: about how I want to approach this, you know, completely different, 683 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: not different to myself, but different than how it was 684 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, treated in the past. And um, you know, 685 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: she deserves you know, all the love in the world 686 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: in respect, and I we were trying to figure out 687 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: and see if I could be that you know man 688 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: for her. And um, we've all seen how you know, 689 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: incredible she is, so I think and I know that 690 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: she does, you know, deserve that. So yeah, And it 691 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: seems like it was special that day two with Coromo 692 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: because he genuinely cared about Rachel and like wanted her 693 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: to find a good partner. It wasn't just like let's 694 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: go through the motions of hosting these two and you know, 695 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: like dressing them up. It was genuinely like he wanted 696 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: to see how you two interacted together and like talk 697 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: to you to get to know you, to see if 698 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: you could be a good fit, which which I think 699 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: made it that much more memorable. Probably for you definitely, 700 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: but for the viewers. Let's get into the night part though. 701 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: This movie premiere, what did you think you were actually 702 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: going to walk into? Did you expect it to be 703 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: a movie premiere of the two of you as children? 704 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: Not at all. I thought, you know, okay, we're hearing 705 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: movie premiere and I'm running through my head of like 706 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: what movies are coming out? Like I love movies. I 707 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: left going to movie theater like sure, it could be 708 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: literally any movie, and I'm like, cool, let's go see it, 709 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: like is it Top Gun? Exactly? Thinking part two? And 710 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,479 Speaker 1: once you know, we're in the limo and we open 711 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: it up and we see the red carpet with the paparazzi, 712 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: and even then when we saw the signs that said 713 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: you and me, I was still like, hump, I haven't 714 00:37:53,880 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: heard of that movie before, Like that's kind of that's yeah. 715 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: I was definitely definitely and it was. I mean, I'm 716 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: just you know, replaying it back now, and it was 717 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: it was so overwhelming, but it wasn't clicking yet. I 718 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: was like, really, I haven't heard of this movie before, Like, 719 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: this is going to be interesting. And when we get 720 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: inside and we see the letter from Cromo, uh and 721 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: the you know, the childhood home video start playing, I mean, 722 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I just no words. Really, I mean it 723 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: was I wouldn't expect anything like that. And like, I 724 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: know these actors and actresses in this movie, it was 725 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: really just like hiring them to watch that though with you, 726 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: because because your actually emotions and feelings were incredibly genuine 727 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: with what you were feeling, Like I know that I 728 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: got I teared up over here, Like I teared up 729 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: as both of you guys teered up. Did you do everything? Yeah? 730 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: It was cute. I'm so Jack. I'm sorry I did 731 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: not tear up. I did not. Moments and special to 732 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: have that moment, especially so early on with Rachel. You know, 733 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 1: you learn a lot about each other in that in 734 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: that moment. Yeah, yeah, and it was it was the 735 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: moment of you know, you're you're being very vulnerable with 736 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: this person really early on, and uh, it's it's great 737 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: seeing like the support. So not only were you know 738 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: the childhood videos being played, but you know, our our 739 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: family sending a message and it was them showing their 740 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: support for us, and I, you know, I needed to 741 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,479 Speaker 1: see that and it I just you know a little 742 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: bit of waterworks came, but it was it was special 743 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: with Rachel and you know, it was great. One thing 744 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: that and I just thought of this because you know, 745 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: when you come on the show and when I don't 746 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 1: think anyone realizes is like prior to like act even filming, 747 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: how long you're away from your family and friends, Like 748 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: you're in quarantine. You don't have a phone, you don't 749 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: have access to a computer, so you can't even email. 750 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: So it's like a good chunk of time that you're 751 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 1: away from your people. And so seeing them in that 752 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: moment is that kind of what struck the water works 753 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: is like being able to see your mom and like 754 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: hear her voice after being away and not talking to 755 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: her for someone and hearing that is that kind of 756 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: what struck the chord with you. Yeah, absolutely, it was. 757 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 1: It was seeing her after you know, all that time, 758 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,919 Speaker 1: but also seeing her be so supportive for me because 759 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: she knew, you know, I was at that point in 760 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 1: my life ready to you know, find my person. And 761 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: it was just crazy how the timelines just worked and 762 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: I was here with Rachel and I already felt that 763 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: spark in connection with her, and I see my mom 764 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: there and she's there to you know, cheer me on, 765 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, till the end, and I just I was 766 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: not expecting it, and uh, you know, Mama's boy at heart. 767 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: So it was it was it was unreal. It was 768 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: really unreal. Perfect timing. Yeah, truly Bachelor has a way 769 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: of doing that. Did you did you expect you and 770 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: Rachel to have so much in common? Because even going 771 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: back to like the thing with the pilot and going 772 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: to the airports to watch the place, everything like that, 773 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: like it seemed, I mean like you could not make 774 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: this stuff stuff up. It was it was like you 775 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: two were so aligned. Did you expect that? No, I honestly, 776 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: you can't expect something like that. It was it felt, 777 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: you know, it natural, but it was almost like there 778 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: was all these signs that you know, like it was 779 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 1: meant to be. And uh, you know, I knew she 780 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: she's a pilot going into it um and you know 781 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: that helps you know, get to know. But then after that, 782 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: it was just like, no, it's this this person for 783 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: who she is there's something here and um ant flying 784 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: is pretty awesome, So um, why not? Where where are 785 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: you at in the process of getting your pilot's license? 786 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: Very early? So I wasn't going to get it in Austin. Um. My, 787 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: my dad he had his pilot SLCE UM in California 788 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: and he has UM you know, his instructors that he uses, 789 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: so you know, at some point I was going to 790 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: be in California to get my license, and um, it 791 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: only takes you know, a few months, and so I'm 792 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: in the Oh my god, don't tell that takes a 793 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: couple of months to get a pilot's license. I was 794 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 1: going to say, like, are you going for the private 795 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: pilot license? Are not like the commercial license? Correct? Yeah? 796 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: Just private? Just private. Well, there's certain classes that you 797 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: like class A and I believe Class A and and 798 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: those are just different, uh like thresholds or regulations that 799 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: you clear, um through testing. I'm not a pro or expert. 800 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: I'm only hearing this from my for my dad. Um. 801 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: But you know, as like a commercial pilot, you have 802 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: to be UM tested in other things than just a 803 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: private pilot and you can only fly at certain altitudes. 804 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: But gosh, we having kids we gotta get girl who 805 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: could fly planes. I was I was like, we got 806 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: to just call up Rachel and perforate on this, right. Okay, 807 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: So moving on from that beautiful date that you two had, 808 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: let's get up into the rose ceremony that week, because 809 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: obviously you weren't on that group date. You didn't see 810 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: all of the stuff go down, like with Gabby and 811 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: the stirccle that she was having. But they totally canceled 812 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony this week. But before that, Jesse Palmer 813 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: comes in and he's like, hey, surprise, it's not just 814 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: being canceled, but you guys, like we're splitting up the 815 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: group basically, and this is going to be two separate seasons, 816 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: and you know, the men kind of have to decide 817 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: who they want to go with, who they have the 818 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 1: strongest connection with. What was going through your head in 819 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 1: that moment, because obviously you were safe with the Rows, 820 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 1: you already knew you had such a strong connection with Rachel, 821 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 1: but like, what was going through your head and what 822 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: was the vibe in the room with all of the 823 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: other men who were still undecided. Yeah, So when I 824 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: heard about the decision to you know, make it two 825 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: separate you know, bachelorettes and you know, two separate guys. 826 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: For me, it was it was easy, Like I already 827 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: knew from the moment I really met Rachel in our 828 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: time together, I was there for her, so I didn't have, 829 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: you know, any problem. But for the actual you know, 830 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: canceled ceremony, uh Avan and I were actually outside and 831 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: we weren't actually there to take part or hear the news, 832 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: so we were hearing everything after the fact about how 833 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, everyone's face is just dropped and they were realizing, 834 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: oh shit, we have to make a decision, or you know, 835 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: people on the fence. Um. But you know, it felt 836 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: great just knowing, you know, what I had with Rachel 837 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 1: and um not being in that you know, very tense room. Yeah, 838 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: did you feel like there's like anyone who really I 839 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 1: don't even know the response would be like, oh shit, 840 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: when you have to make a decision, you know what 841 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's somewhat early on, right, it's a 842 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 1: big decision. Did you have anybody who really felt like 843 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: there was like they were torn between this decision? You know, 844 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: I can't think anyone specific, but I know that there 845 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: were still some guys at that point that really didn't 846 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: uh you know, speak with either Gabia, Rachel or have 847 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: any connection. So it's really hard for them to have 848 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: to choose when there's nothing really to guide it on, 849 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: you know, or um, you know, choose. So there's a 850 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: few guys that, um, you know, and none that come 851 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,879 Speaker 1: to mind where I'd be like, you know that guy, Oh, 852 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: he's done for he's gonna get in trouble. But when 853 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: I learned after the fact that um, it was tense 854 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: and that there were some rejected roses, I mean, that's 855 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: the last thing you want. Yeah, it just it made 856 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: her you know, upset. So that was that was the 857 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: worst case, the worst And that's actually something I want 858 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: to ask you about because you know, when when the 859 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: women are hated out these roses one by one, like 860 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: you guys are all outside who are safe kind of 861 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: watching in and seeing the men either accept or deny 862 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: the roses. And at one point both women and walked 863 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: out to have a conversation. And what you didn't see 864 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 1: in that moment but watched later on is Rachel kind 865 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: of is breaking down and she's having this moment of like, 866 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: so many men are declining my roses and it makes 867 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: She's like, I'm embarrassed by this, and it like reflects 868 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: poorly on the men who have already accepted my rose, 869 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: which I wanted to like in that moment, I would 870 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: be like, no, like, these men that accepted your rose 871 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 1: are here for you and like you and still want 872 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: to pursue you. And I hate that these other men 873 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: who you know, decided not to say yes to her 874 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: rose like left her in this like tainted space of 875 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,959 Speaker 1: like just feeling bad. And so like in that moment, 876 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: if you were there with Rachel, what would you been 877 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: able to say to make her feel better? Because I 878 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: feel like that's something that like, if anyone was in 879 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: that position, we'd all probably would have felt embarrassed and 880 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: all would have felt a little discouraged. And so having 881 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: a guy who she already has a strong connection with 882 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: to build her up and make her feel better what 883 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: I think have been so important. What would you have 884 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: said to her? That's a great question. I mean, first, 885 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: it broke my heart to see that she was so upset, 886 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: and and I mean the last thing she should feel 887 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,919 Speaker 1: is embarrassed because um, as everyone knows, she's an incredible woman. 888 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: And if there are guys that happen to reject her 889 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: and and not see that in her. You're better off 890 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: without them, You don't, you don't need that in your life. 891 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 1: There's you know, there's people out there for you. Um 892 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 1: we have you know us, you know, we're the Rachel guys, 893 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: and I mean we see something in you. We we 894 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: have your back through through it all, and um, you know, 895 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: I would really just support her and just let her 896 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: know that, hey, like, you're better off without them. You 897 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 1: don't need them, you know. I know it's it's painful, 898 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: and it's tough, and no one, no one ever likes 899 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 1: to be told no and be you know, rejected. But 900 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 1: you know there's there's incredible, you know, people out there 901 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 1: for you, and you know, we want your heart. So 902 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 1: that's probably what I yeah, yeah, oh that's I want 903 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: to get that. Yeah. Yeah, that's well, that's very sweet. 904 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing that, because I feel, you know, now, 905 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: it's weeks months later, but it's still so important to 906 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: hear you know that. I mean, it's not easy and 907 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: she's still handled incredibly well. So I'm happy she I'm 908 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: right now in the season. I'm happy that she has 909 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: somebody like you too, you know, I am too. Oh 910 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 1: my gosh, am I getting an emotional now. Damn, I 911 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: know what is happening to this week? So zachly I 912 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 1: want to get into UM. Well, we're going to ask 913 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 1: you the Rosenthorne, which is something that we ask our 914 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: guests every week. But before we do that, if you 915 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: could sum up without giving anything away, this is gonna 916 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 1: be difficult. If you can sum up the rest of 917 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: this season in a little phrase or a couple of words, 918 00:48:54,280 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: what would it be? Incredibly romantic? Oh? Oh, okays, like 919 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: no one had a good journey. Okay, I don't okay, Zach, 920 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying this right now. I don't know shit 921 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: about the rest of the season. I truly, like I 922 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: always find in the spoilers, I know nothing with Rachel 923 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,479 Speaker 1: or Gabby. I don't know final for our I don't 924 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: even like, I don't even know anything. But I'm calling 925 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: it right now. I think, Zach, you're going far and 926 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: I think, sir, you might just be the one for Rachel. 927 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying now, I'm placing my bets. I'm already placed it. 928 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: Let's go U. But for real, Zach, this is a 929 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: question you can answer, um, And I'm just gonna have 930 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: you start because you are the man of the hour. 931 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,959 Speaker 1: So every week we do a rose and thorn, which 932 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: is basically of that week, like your highlight, favorite moment, 933 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: best moment, and then a low light, something you know 934 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,760 Speaker 1: that you could have lived without. So take it away, Okay, 935 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 1: I guess I'll start with a thorn, and uh, you know, 936 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, it was an incredible week, 937 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: but really it was the outfit I wore to the date. 938 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm just kicking myself. I was like, really did I 939 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 1: not look twice? And why did none of my friends 940 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: tell me, dude, don't wear that. I came at the 941 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 1: perfect time. Yeah, oh I needed it. I need He's 942 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: kind of changed my whole thought process now for what 943 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 1: I wear. So but then that was my thorn. And 944 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,760 Speaker 1: then my rose was when Rachel and I were dancing 945 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: on stage two the song that was composed by the 946 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: pianist that was there, and we just low danced for 947 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: a long time. I mean, it was awesome. You know what, 948 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: even though like that is still a great thorn, I 949 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: will say you would a damn good week if that's 950 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,919 Speaker 1: your fam. I mean, it was. It was an unreal week, 951 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't even feel real still still all right, Michelle, 952 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: what about you? I like that. I also like how 953 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: how Zach started with a thorn because then he ended 954 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,280 Speaker 1: with a positive. I like that. Yeah, that's a good sign. 955 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to start with the happy part and I reign. 956 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, but no, I would say that my 957 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,720 Speaker 1: rose was just watching Zack and Rachel in this moment 958 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: where you know, they got to do the red carpet, 959 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 1: they got to kind of feel that world, because that 960 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: is something that you would feel if you're together, you know, 961 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: after this, but then really just getting like seeing the 962 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,280 Speaker 1: emotions on both of your faces as like your family 963 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: is speaking to you and you know, you're seeing your 964 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 1: childhood and all those different things because you just you 965 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: learn so much, you feel so much in those moments, 966 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: and the fact that you guys could show that together 967 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 1: was shut kiss. It was awesome. The thorn would have 968 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:11,279 Speaker 1: to be Um, what's what's his? Jacob, what is it? No? 969 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 1: The one the one who was like, you're rough around 970 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:18,879 Speaker 1: the edges, Hayden, Hayden, Hayden, Yeah, Hayden saying your rough 971 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: around the edges, Gabby. All I have to say is 972 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: like what I say to my fifth grader is when 973 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,919 Speaker 1: something doesn't come out nice rephrase, I try again. Yeah, 974 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna add to your thorn as my thorn and 975 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: say the same sentiment goes for Jacob and telling Gabby 976 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 1: that even though he might not be there for her personality, 977 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 1: she's still smoking hot. Um, what are we twelve? No, 978 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 1: So that's my thorn and my rose is definitely Grandpa John. Yeah, 979 00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: that's it, Grandpa John. I want our more of him. 980 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: I want to see him on every episode this season 981 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: because he is just glorious. So that is my rose. 982 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: Well I did on a high note. Um, all right, well, Zach, 983 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. I'm sure we 984 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: will either see you in the near future, whether it's 985 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 1: at mental all, but I'm really hoping it's for the 986 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 1: finale with a ring on our girl, Rachel's finger. So 987 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: thank you for taking time out of your day. I 988 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 1: know I'm sure you're a busy, busy man, but we 989 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: so appreciate having you here. I really enjoyed Zach. I did, 990 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: I didn't. We didn't ask him, but how old is he? 991 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I need to look that one up. 992 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,439 Speaker 1: But he regardless, he feel like he carries himself really well, 993 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 1: like he knows what he wants. Yeah, he seems incredibly 994 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: just well spoken, mature. Hm. He seems very genuine and 995 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: that's what I like about him. Yeah, he isn't even 996 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: but confident. Something that I noticed on his day with 997 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 1: Rachel and seeing the two of them interacts, like he 998 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 1: seems like a calming presence for her, which I even 999 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: picked up on the podcast. I think like he's going 1000 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: to be a safe place for her throughout this entire season, 1001 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: which YE always need. So what embraces like the like 1002 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: weird just situations you're put in on the show. Totally? Yeah, yeah, 1003 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 1: very well roaded. So Zach, thank you for joining us. 1004 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: That was a fun one. 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