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Speaker 1: Sable Advice. Welcome to the Naughty but Nice I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Rob Shoot. Our friend Donnie Meetcham from Okay Magazine dot

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Speaker 1: com is with us. Donny, are you there? Hello, Loo Loo.

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Speaker 1: I'm sad I didn't get to start my week with

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Speaker 1: you this week like I did last week. It was

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Speaker 1: a Monday, and I was like, yay, but Wednesdays are fine,

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Speaker 1: so sweet. So last week, let me explain, Garrett's, our

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Speaker 1: friend was off doing a pilot, a TV pilot that

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Speaker 1: looks like he got sold. So congratulations to Garrett's. So

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Speaker 1: we're back to the regular formation this week, as Beyonce

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Speaker 1: would say, so get in line, ladies and gentlemen, because

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Speaker 1: we're ready to dance. Hey, Donnie, do you you know what

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Speaker 1: time it is? It is another exclusive at the top

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Speaker 1: of the show. So Laurie Laughlin's daughter, we told you

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Speaker 1: yesterday she was sitting down and breaking her silence for

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Speaker 1: the first time about the college candle. We told you

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Speaker 1: on yesterday's show that the parents did not know about this,

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Speaker 1: and she confirmed it on Jada Pinkett Smith's Red Table

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Speaker 1: going on, she actually hadn't spoken to her mom and dad.

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Speaker 1: So she decided to do this by herself. She was

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Speaker 1: actually advised not to do this. The plan was when

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Speaker 1: mom and dad got out of jail, they'd all do

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Speaker 1: a big family sit down interview. However, Olivia Jade is

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Speaker 1: taking her future into her own hands. You can hardly

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Speaker 1: blame her after what she's gone through with her parents.

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Speaker 1: We don't quite know how involved she was. She claims

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Speaker 1: very little. I don't know. We're not so sure about that.

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Speaker 1: But moving forward, she is now the boss. Sources are

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Speaker 1: telling me this is not the only thing she plans

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Speaker 1: to do. She's also in talks to write a tell

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Speaker 1: all book. So she's a social media influencer. That word

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Speaker 1: is so annoying, isn't it, But it means basically, she

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Speaker 1: has millions and millions of followers. She thinks her carea

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Speaker 1: is going to bounce back. Donnie two questions. He did

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Speaker 1: you watch the Red Table talk and be what do

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Speaker 1: you think about all this? I did see the Red

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Speaker 1: Table talk, and look, I am very happy that she

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Speaker 1: set down and she did take somewhat blame for it,

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Speaker 1: and she did say that her white privilege kind of

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Speaker 1: able to do it, and she didn't get away with it.

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Speaker 1: Her parents didn't get away with it. But I think now,

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Speaker 1: if anything, what I want to hear them says, yes,

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Speaker 1: we did wrong, But I would love for them to say, now,

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Speaker 1: this is how kids who are under privilege can now

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Speaker 1: fix it. There needs to be something that needs to happen.

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Speaker 1: There needs to be a change in the college admissions,

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Speaker 1: like That's what I want to see from them, to

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Speaker 1: really try and help others that are not in such

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Speaker 1: an advantage privileged position as her. Overall, I thought she

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Speaker 1: did a pretty good job in the interview Jada's mom.

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Speaker 1: She's so tough. I loved her, and when she said

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Speaker 1: the irony of this little white girl coming to three

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Speaker 1: black women to ask or forgiveness was really really powerful.

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Speaker 1: I think Olivia is doing what she has to do here.

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think she has to throw her mom

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Speaker 1: here we do separate. We all do that in our families,

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Speaker 1: even without this sort of drama. So I think Olivia

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Speaker 1: it's not such a bad idea. Where are you on this?

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Speaker 1: Do you want it just to be ended, Donnie? Or

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Speaker 1: would you like to hear more and see her grow,

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Speaker 1: see her change? But the thing is, I'm I'm very

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Speaker 1: of the day. Loride Luckling's daughter Olivia Jade, is now

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Speaker 1: sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results. Donny Love,

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Speaker 1: what are you working on over at Okay magazine dot com?

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Speaker 1: Well pap Prince, says Ariana grand Day. She gifted Katie

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Speaker 1: But if you've got Ariana Grandame money, do you care?

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Speaker 1: I wear you on gifts? Donny? Do you really think

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Speaker 1: For me, it really is the thought. I mean I

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Speaker 1: Megan talking about her miscarriage was was very dramatic too

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Speaker 1: And thankfully they're forgetting that how angry they all were.

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Speaker 1: That sometimes happens, Donnie, if you give it a little time,

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Speaker 1: do you think, yes, it absolutely does. What cracks me up, though,

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Speaker 1: So yesterday we talked about Lori Laughlin's daughter, Olivia JD.

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