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Speaker 1: I'm Teddy Mellencamp and this is Emily Simpson and you're

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Speaker 1: listening to Popping Off.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome back to another episode of Popping Off

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Speaker 2: with myself, Teddy Mellencamp.

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Speaker 1: And Emily Simpson. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Episode six starts with most of mom talk is a

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Speaker 2: Ji's hairstyles, getting their hair.

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Speaker 1: Non. I love that we dis embrace it. We just

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Speaker 1: call it jizz.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they realized that Whitney didn't block them on so so,

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Speaker 2: but she unfollowed them. Besides, Macy, Macy knows she's impulsive,

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Speaker 2: but she's never hear seen her this impulsive.

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Speaker 3: All of the girls are over it. They don't want

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Speaker 3: to deal with Whitney.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with Whitney. I'm over it.

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Speaker 3: I'm over it.

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Speaker 2: But then Jesse continuing to host a party at her

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Speaker 2: hair studio in honor of something she's saying goodbye to.

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Speaker 2: She has mocktails that have names like this feels very

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Speaker 2: this doesn't feel too Mormon. The pink pussy and is

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Speaker 2: having the girls each paint of vagina and honor of

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Speaker 2: her getting a labia plasty.

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Speaker 3: I do love her for just sharing all her shit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, let me ask is a labia plasty? Is

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Speaker 4: that where your insides are tightened? Or is that where

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Speaker 4: the actual like curtains are cut?

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Speaker 2: And according to her, she can't wear leggings anymore because

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Speaker 2: her meat curtains hang too low.

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Speaker 3: This is a direct quot, so.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's yeah.

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Speaker 2: I thought this would be a fun get together for

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Speaker 2: everyone before they go on their next trip, which is

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas for Layla's birthday. I'm like, Leila, we just

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Speaker 2: had a divorce party for you. Now it's your birthday,

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Speaker 2: Like right, make a seat.

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Speaker 4: And I love how these Mormon girls choose Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Oh and every time I go to Vegas, I love

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Speaker 2: to get an Airbnb off the strip.

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Speaker 1: Like what?

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Speaker 2: Then Jin asked if any of the girls have named

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Speaker 2: their husband Schlong, and they have it, But Jin's named

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Speaker 2: Zach's holmshow Hompshow not even Poncho?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: Why is there an amin there?

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Speaker 4: Like it's a Pomeranian, a Palmeranian Chihuahua Pancho.

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Speaker 3: And does that mean he's uncircumcised?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So many questions because Poncho would make sense if he's uncircumcised,

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Speaker 2: but palm Cho is a little bit confusing to me, Like,

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Speaker 2: what is a palmchow?

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Speaker 3: Is that a word?

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Speaker 1: I don't know? Is it like a mix of a

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Speaker 1: palm and.

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Speaker 3: My god, it's mistyped.

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Speaker 1: It is way to go. It is pancho.

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Speaker 2: I love that we're just bullying our production tea having

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Speaker 2: idea like palm Pomeranian? What is it?

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Speaker 1: Pop?

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Speaker 3: No, poncho? So that's got to mean like it's a

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Speaker 3: penis with a little coat.

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Speaker 1: On it with yes, it's.

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Speaker 2: So painting vaginas to the Mormon doctrine poncho penises.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know that i'd want.

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Speaker 2: My penis to be called poncho. Does Shane have a

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Speaker 2: penis name? No?

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Speaker 4: I mean now I feel like we should. I mean,

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Speaker 4: after fifteen years, is it too late to name the penis?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 4: Should I have a penis naming party? Do you have listen,

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Speaker 4: I'll paint one for you.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to come? I'm going to have a

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Speaker 1: penis naming hammer helper or helper?

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Speaker 2: And uh so your privates doesn't have a name either?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: Mine does does it? Venus the Goddess of Love?

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Speaker 1: Really like a Venus fly trap?

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Speaker 2: You like that.

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Speaker 3: Either way?

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Speaker 2: Then Taylor arrives at her mom's house without Dakota. He

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Speaker 2: not wanting marriage right now is making Dakota want marriage

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Speaker 3: Dakota just wants to control the situation. He's out of control.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Then Taylor tries to call him, but he doesn't answer.

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Speaker 2: So our girl, Leanne, what does she do to Emily?

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Speaker 4: LeeAnne give the great idea to say she's going into labor?

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Speaker 1: Leanne is diabolical.

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Speaker 2: I mean, who, like anyone heard of the boy who

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Speaker 3: Like ha ha, Leanne tis tists like you already pulled

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Speaker 2: But then I realized, like we this is why they

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Speaker 4: Advice, right, I mean, you do see why Taylor is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because once on the phone, Leanne reminds with Taylor

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Speaker 2: and Dakota that this isn't about them anymore. This is

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Speaker 2: about their baby that they just pretended she was going

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Speaker 2: into labor with. And Dakota asked Leanne to tell her

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Speaker 2: daughter to either commit to him or end this.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the ultimatum that's not good.

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Speaker 2: Listen, and we know this ultimatum isn't going anywhere. There's

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Speaker 2: nothing more that pisses me off than a fake ultimatum. Like,

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Speaker 2: if you're going to give an ultimatum.

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Speaker 1: You better be behind it one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, if I'm really going to give you an ultimatum,

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be repercussions.

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Speaker 3: If not, I'm just gonna to sit there and take

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Speaker 1: I mean, clearly Dakota is not really going to end it.

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Speaker 3: Now, what is he gonna do?

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Speaker 2: Put his PlayStation over at Jet Jennies or whatever her

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Speaker 1: Jenna, Like, where's he gonna go?

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Speaker 2: Well, then jin Leila into me visit Jesse while she's

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Speaker 2: in recovery after her laby of plasty and boob production.

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Speaker 2: She decided to do both. She already had a mommy makeover.

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Speaker 2: She's just getting shit done. I want to know if

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Speaker 2: it's cheaper to get plastic surgery in Salt Lake City

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Speaker 2: because they are able to afford a lot of it,

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Speaker 2: and like, I know how expensive my tits were, so.

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Speaker 1: Like okay, but here's the question.

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Speaker 4: I don't think she probably paid for any of it

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Speaker 4: because they already had a lot of following anyway, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's no tags of a doctor or anything.

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Speaker 2: You have to like my neck lift, m m. You'll

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Speaker 2: notice my doctor is tagged into every single post.

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Speaker 1: That means I would assume that I would assume.

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Speaker 3: The same with your eye lift. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: like as your doctor tagged.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell him all the time.

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Speaker 2: Right, So that's my point. I don't see any tags off.

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Speaker 2: Who did the laby of plasty?

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I don't know, So.

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Speaker 3: We'll ask her did she pay for her own laby

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Speaker 3: of plastic?

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Speaker 1: That's a question. Write that down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, don't forget put that night at palm show.

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Speaker 1: Put that in your book.

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Speaker 2: But then, her recovery process is similar to their recovery

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Speaker 2: process after giving birth. Her doctor advised no sex for

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Speaker 2: four to six weeks, but her husband wants to know

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Speaker 2: what her dentist says. But then she's still planning to

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Speaker 2: go to Vegas to celebrate the birthday. Jen breaks the

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Speaker 1: Oh mysh oh.

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Speaker 2: And then Ben Afflecks not cousin can't is supposed to

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Speaker 2: be there to support Dakota because Dakota is on his

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Speaker 2: Jen asked Zach what he would think if she went

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Speaker 2: another false threat which we talked about with ultimatums. She

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what did she think he was

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Speaker 1: going to do with that all you can eat buffet?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what are you gonna do with twenty five

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Speaker 2: And then the producers ask Jen if she can talk

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Speaker 4: See here is where she's not allowed to go to

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Speaker 1: Is that what it was? Magic Mike?

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Speaker 4: Hmm Okay, I went to Thunder down Under recently in Vegas.

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Speaker 4: My husband is Mormon, by the way, he had no

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Speaker 2: If we were going to put it in a range

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Speaker 2: of things to be upset about, going to Magic Mike

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Speaker 2: I'm like, this is Zach.

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Speaker 4: But she's like what twenty one? And also like, how

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Speaker 4: many men have you met at this point? Also, Zach

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't get.

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Speaker 3: Get a haircut. If you want to be that controlling,

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Speaker 1: You gotta look a little better.

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Speaker 2: Taylor shows up to Jen and Zach's house for their

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Speaker 2: Then they have a therapy session for the however long

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Speaker 2: the drive is from Salt Lake City to Vegas.

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Speaker 1: It's about four hours. Yeah and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean between this episode, we're talking a lot

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Speaker 2: about labios, a lot about assholes, and we're just kind

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Speaker 2: Jen is sitting like in the third row, which is

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Speaker 3: The front seat.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who's in the We know how car

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Speaker 4: cams work. Is it Zach in the front seat? Zach's dry,

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Speaker 4: Zach's driving.

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Speaker 3: No one in the front seat.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's nobody. There's a producer in the front seat.

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Speaker 3: No, producers are never in the front seat.

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Speaker 4: They're like, I've had producers in the front seat before

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Speaker 3: No, our prodigion. No really like laid back in the trunk.

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Speaker 1: Just like, oh, yeah, I've had that too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But Zach tries to cool, telling Jen she's a big

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Speaker 2: No, they just went to somebody's farm to try it out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my point, Like she needs to shovel some horseshit,

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Speaker 2: Which I don't really understand how this is even news.

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Speaker 4: And to me, this confession just goes along with what

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, well it's explicit that you're not supposed to gamble,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you're not supposed to cheat, right,

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Speaker 2: So going and watching people dance on stage when it's

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Speaker 4: If they're at Crazy Horse, like going in the back door, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: They're being filmed with a essentially, you know, a production

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Speaker 1: Zachie boy while he's gambling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So then Jen's husband, Michaela's husband, and Taylor's boyfriend

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Speaker 3: You know what I think this is.

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Speaker 2: You know when somebody's boyfriend or husband gets in a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that he could stay out all night, stop

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he did. He did a good job.

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Speaker 2: Of that, and all the girls watched it. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: we'll get into that in the next episode. So make

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Speaker 2: sure you guys keep listening to the Secret Lives of

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Speaker 2: Mormon wives and popping off with us.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate thanks for listening. Bye.