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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: I got no time to waste. Bring your own bills

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Speaker 2: to pay. I got more bile to feed.

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Speaker 3: I got no time to play.

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Speaker 4: I got no beed to stay there, no money, run run,

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Speaker 4: what's the king.

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Speaker 3: Of what's a call on some side? Never been on

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Speaker 3: that silly sopa ship.

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Speaker 4: Brother Rob Pimp died for though, for the wood grain,

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Speaker 4: dass whole and the real that's it's walk.

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Speaker 2: And then brought it the head fresh.

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Speaker 4: You let me dead fresh and your get like heads

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Speaker 4: is the hour of a grind, no bed wrists. I

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Speaker 4: can't depend on the next chick because it ain't got ship.

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Speaker 4: The type of broke that got me searching through my

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Speaker 4: mama's got it's a blue shape.

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Speaker 2: You got that dollar man. You make them a.

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Speaker 4: Little small fry you when they a sweet teeth.

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Speaker 3: Blending and I hear his money, but that it give me.

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Speaker 4: Due to your Wednesday, that it killed them hunger pains given,

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Speaker 4: though it ain't fulfilling. I may do with what God

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Speaker 4: give me that I take get day by day, I

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Speaker 4: would come around more off this what I can't stay

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Speaker 4: because I got no time to waste. I got no

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Speaker 4: bills to pay, I got more biles to feed. I

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Speaker 4: got no time to play, I got no need to stay.

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Speaker 4: When ain't no money, go cry crying crying?

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Speaker 3: What's the king? A lot of crimes? What's a call?

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Speaker 2: Got some sign?

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Speaker 4: I try out to step on my toes with your

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Speaker 4: small back rolls.

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Speaker 2: You go and throw on strip of pole prowls.

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Speaker 5: You barely know they could rain.

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Speaker 4: If I was paying with no knowledge of two months

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Speaker 4: late on my mortgage in the hood.

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Speaker 3: That ain't safe. I do the same thing.

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Speaker 4: But we used to thinking the ship with that genius

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Speaker 4: that came about how I feel. That's why I'm searching

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Speaker 4: some mean don't need to my playing week. You know

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Speaker 4: when I'm dreaming Mamma teim and beat yo, and you

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Speaker 4: know when I'm seeing lottery winners. Don't run in my family,

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Speaker 4: don't do siving.

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Speaker 6: Not when I be on that other ship. I'm harder

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Speaker 6: than the consonant. And that's because them flyers than the

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Speaker 6: mother ship. You offso rich, I'm awesome rich, call the

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Speaker 6: bitch fresher than my losseses.

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Speaker 2: The problem is you and the day just don't like

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Speaker 7: Flyer you're newer semitights, No sick.

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Speaker 2: You know they're right, y'all?

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Speaker 7: Think say your body got gotta put your blood a

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Speaker 7: better at night. Yeah ya, gotta sit on the bench

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Speaker 7: playing again. Yeah, may just I spit the best view

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Speaker 7: watch not mind them going shit?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, welcome to the Fight out to this podcast.

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Speaker 8: Your host ride and and we're in the house for

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Speaker 8: another episode on a Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Praise t Bow.

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Speaker 8: Yes, while we're giving out all kinds of free podcasting,

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Speaker 8: the masses for us all to be able to rally

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Speaker 8: behind him and watch him get the victory. And I

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Speaker 8: haven't even finished watching the game. I just know I'm

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Speaker 8: don't need to see the game. But in case you're,

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Speaker 8: you know, first time listening, first time hearing these people,

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Speaker 8: this is the BLACKOUTILS dot Com and the guests that

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Speaker 8: we have have both been on the show before numerous times. Yes, now,

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Speaker 8: the first voice you may recognize as comedian Chris Lambert,

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Speaker 8: say what's up to everybody?

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Speaker 2: Chris? What's up everybody?

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Speaker 8: And everybody knows they can go check your website out

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Speaker 8: the mondaye Festival dot Tumblr, which is now just a

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Speaker 8: bunch of everything, Like it used to kind of just

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Speaker 8: be like some comedy stuff and all that. Now it's music,

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Speaker 8: it's everything is on there. Man, what's going on with

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Speaker 8: your site?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just stuff that I like.

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Speaker 9: I mean, a lot of a lot of my friends

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Speaker 9: always ask, oh, Chris, what are you listening to?

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Speaker 2: What are you watching?

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Speaker 9: So I just use that tumblr to to promote this

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Speaker 9: stuff I'm listening to, along with the shows that I

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Speaker 2: Just just fun stuff.

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Speaker 8: It's nice having your own website if it wasn't so

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Speaker 8: pretentious to tell your friends to go to it, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Like I like. I like the fact that I

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Speaker 8: Man, you need to see that trailer for oh, you

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Speaker 8: know what blackouts dot com.

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Speaker 2: Pick it out? You know. I like that.

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Speaker 8: But then part of me is like, I can never

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Speaker 8: say that to somebody I know in real life because

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Speaker 8: they'll be like, fuck you, I'm not going to your website.

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Speaker 2: Just tell me if you like this movie or not.

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Speaker 2: You know, right, too much work.

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Speaker 8: And then of course on YouTube, being a comedian, you

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Speaker 9: Yes, if you go to YouTube it's I think it's

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Speaker 9: like YouTube dot com backslash Chris Lambert Comedy. I got

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Speaker 2: So yeah, some stuff up there, some pretty cool stuff.

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Speaker 8: Now, Chris man, you and this is a lot of

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Speaker 8: communitists had this issue. Man, you never promote your ship really,

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Speaker 8: like you just kind of I see you on Twitter

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Speaker 8: and stuff, just chilling and whatnot. But like even I'm

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Speaker 8: surprised that there's a YouTube channel where I can go

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Speaker 8: get all the Chris Lamberts needs I need filled up

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Speaker 8: and and and you just kind of like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I got a little on the side, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know comedy. Well you go ahead. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: go ahead, go ahead. Morean Yeah, oh I wasn't saying anything.

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Speaker 2: I was closing my window. Actually, okay, tell some people

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Speaker 2: to shut up. What was gonna say, Chris, Oh No, it's.

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Speaker 9: Just I have like if you go to my Twitter,

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Speaker 9: like I'm at Chris Lambert and look at my bio,

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Speaker 9: my website is my YouTube page, and it's just stuff.

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Speaker 2: That goes Oh that guy, let's see what this guy

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Speaker 9: I got about seven or eight videos up and you

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Speaker 9: got to get to see what.

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Speaker 2: My comedy is about with my style is like, and

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Speaker 9: I try not to flood the market, but my stuff

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Speaker 8: Why not, though, man, I mean people are following you

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Speaker 2: Like, why would you not want them to get more you? Uh?

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Speaker 2: I mean I think I'm there, Like, I think I'm available.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm on Facebook.

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Speaker 9: Twitter, Google Plus, LinkedIn has been courting me for quite

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm about to do that deal,

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Speaker 8: I'm just saying, man, if I would you, like one

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Like I said, I'll fuck with you a lot.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't even know this.

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Speaker 8: We talk almost every day, and I'm like, goddamn, Chris

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Speaker 9: I'm late over you put some stuff up there, you

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Speaker 8: All right, man, I'm just saying I don't feel like

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Speaker 2: I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just even if.

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Speaker 9: I'm not promoting, I'm cooking. I always say like I'm

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Speaker 9: I'm on my wall to white. That's that's the breaking

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Speaker 9: bad reference. I'm cooking, you know, I'm just up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm cooking all that. Uh, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 8: So all right, My other thing for for you, Chris,

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Speaker 8: of course, first.

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Speaker 2: Of all, go ahead and promote your Twitter handle.

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Speaker 9: Okay, sure, sure, I'm at Chris Lambert's regular spelling c

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Speaker 8: And of course you're also a big childe gaining be

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I dig his stuff.

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Speaker 9: Man, I'm I'm surprised that, uh that he I'm not

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Speaker 2: Ah, this guy's pretty cool. And when calder Stack dropped.

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Speaker 9: I found myself listening to it like all the time,

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Speaker 8: Nine more days till camp. Yeah, yeah, I'm anticipating.

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Speaker 2: That more to watch the Throne man for real. Well yeah,

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Speaker 9: I always dig like the indie artists coming up, and

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Speaker 9: and uh, he's got some He's got some good songs.

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Speaker 9: I've heard a few and the snippets are on Amazon

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Speaker 8: Man, Chris, like for those who don't know, like behind

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Speaker 8: Like Chris has been hitting me up with emails, direct messages,

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Speaker 8: links to live shows like hey Man, Child's Gabino Childs Gallpino,

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Speaker 8: But then I realized I was about to watch this

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Speaker 2: I would like to hear the album as a.

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Speaker 8: Cohesive, uh you know, artistic peace for me to evaluate

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Speaker 8: But I was realizing like I was starting to like

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Speaker 8: because and it wasn't just you, Chris, everybody was doing it.

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Speaker 8: But I was starting to hear like the whole album,

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Speaker 8: like Okay, this song is on there. I saw him

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Speaker 8: perform that live, that songs on there. I heard anything

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Speaker 8: except for the campfire song.

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Speaker 2: The bonfire so but yeah.

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Speaker 8: So basically I had to hit him with a DM

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Speaker 8: like hey man, no more links because I feel like, uh,

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Speaker 8: and it wasn't like something against Chris. I feel like

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Speaker 8: a crack scene, like keep this shit away from me,

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Speaker 8: because I will I would have watched that concert. The

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Speaker 2: Well, he basically just did.

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Speaker 9: He did about a fifty minute set and he did

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Speaker 9: like two or three songs off the album, off.

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Speaker 2: The new album. Uh you know, like I thought it.

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Speaker 9: Was cool, like I've seen him do do some of

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Speaker 2: Like it's like I got this Childish Gambino and some cheeseburger.

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Speaker 8: And I will just beat your ass all day, and

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a great analogy, man, And that's exactly how

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 8: It's me right, Well, eventually we will have somebody from

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Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna be upset. And I was like, oh, I

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Speaker 9: He was on Team Summer one time and I was

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Speaker 8: He's kind of like and this this is not to

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Speaker 5: Because you have like a pure boxer beating up on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime I hear that whole, like, I can't respect

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Speaker 2: Because he's stupid because in the public keep begging them

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Speaker 5: Back until they until they unretire, and then they get

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Speaker 9: We gotta do that you want because you're not going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not gonna clean up that bad pen. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: And the thing is too, man, with a lot of

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Speaker 2: Like, nah, you should probably leave, like a couple of knockouts,

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Speaker 8: But a couple of knockouts and I was like, all right,

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Speaker 2: I actually find that sad. Oh, it's incredibly sad.

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Speaker 5: And again we can't figure out what we want from

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Speaker 2: The ones getting in the ring.

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Speaker 5: You want them to keep coming back because it entertains

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Speaker 8: Of course, you also may recognize Morgan as one of

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Speaker 2: At All Balls Don't Bounce dot Com. And they're doing

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Speaker 2: it big man. They got live shows.

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Speaker 8: Now, they're doing vocal Yeah, you know, they're broadcasting from

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Speaker 8: the map these brothers cannot be stopped? Is three fourths

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, sir. And of course he also has his own.

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Speaker 8: Word press h Morgancampbell dot WordPress dot com.

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Speaker 5: By Morgan Oh No, by Morgan campus because in another life,

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Speaker 5: I'm pound for pound the best sports writer in Canada,

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't stop me.

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Speaker 5: You see, you've seen the stories I've been doing. I

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Speaker 8: So yeah, I was just about to say, uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know it because I'm moved a new department.

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Speaker 5: bunch of good stories about this you know this this air, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So that was what I did.

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Speaker 8: And sports is big business, so it sounds it sounds

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Speaker 8: Ryan Jones, he couldn't make it, and we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: It was a little bit bigger than the Blackout Tests podcast.

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Speaker 8: So but we're gonna try to get him back because

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Speaker 8: All right, Now, I have random thoughts and things I

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Speaker 2: Of course. The first thing that I want to discuss

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Speaker 2: is this. I will be glad when Floyd Mayweather.

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Speaker 8: Beats pac Man's ass man can time so sick and

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Speaker 8: tired of all the debate on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Man, it is really like every day there's some form

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Speaker 2: of man.

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Speaker 8: Pac Man would do this to Mayweather. No, Mayweather would

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Speaker 8: do that to pac Man. Well, he's scared to fight him. No,

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Speaker 8: he's the one that's scared.

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Speaker 2: I don't care.

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Speaker 8: Honestly, I'm gonna buy I'm gonna watch the fight when

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Speaker 8: it happen if I just.

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Speaker 2: Wanted to have him for the betterment of man.

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Speaker 8: Cond But I am like ninety five percent sure, maybe

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Speaker 8: even know what fuck it, I'm one hundred percent sure

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Speaker 8: Floyd Mayweather's gonna beat pack y'all's ass. Like, I don't

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Speaker 8: see it. I just don't see I watch both of

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Speaker 8: them fight, and I still have not seen a man

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Speaker 8: able to lay hands on Floyd and knock him out.

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Speaker 8: And I just won't believe it until the shit happens.

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Speaker 8: And I don't think pack Yall is that man.

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Speaker 10: He's kind of sloppy to me. I won't believe it

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Speaker 10: till I see it. And we might even do a

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Speaker 10: pay per view because we used to do pay per.

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Speaker 8: Oh, we'll do pay per view for this one. I

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Speaker 8: made a promise I'm no longer paid for reviewing boxing

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Speaker 8: until these motherfuckers fight, man, But I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, this is some bullshit. I'm not paying fifty nine

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Speaker 2: nine this, Yeah, I boycott it. The dollar speaks, this.

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Speaker 8: Is the fight I want to see, and I've missed

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Speaker 8: some good fights. We're not good, but I missed some fights.

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Speaker 8: Will pack y'all and Mayweather not fighting each other, and

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Speaker 8: I just go, no, you don't get my money. It's

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Speaker 8: this ship is encouraging the wrong messages and telling y'all

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Speaker 8: it's okay to fight other people, and when it's fucking not.

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Speaker 2: Then I see people tweet the next day pissed because

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Speaker 2: they're been like, what they charged me one hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: to this fight? Right? That man couldn't lay a hand

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Speaker 2: on't may Weather? I was disappointed? Well fired? What did

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Speaker 2: they think was gonna happen? Yeah, this is the mastery of.

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Speaker 5: Floyd Mayweather and how he his marketing mastery.

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Speaker 2: Right, And you gotta see this this argument he had

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Speaker 2: with Rude Jude on the radio from Sad Radio. Shit

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Speaker 2: what happened?

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Speaker 5: So basically, okay, remember this fool Rude Jude that used

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Speaker 5: to be like on Jenny Jones and.

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Speaker 2: He would come in and he's like an insult comic. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and apparently he got beat up.

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Speaker 5: By some Chicago game member after the show because he

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Speaker 5: was like and this is what Will was telling me

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Speaker 5: last night, because that was a job. He would come

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Speaker 5: out and make fun of the people. He's like a

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Speaker 5: white guy that talks black, you know, and he come

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Speaker 5: out and just make fun of people.

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Speaker 2: And he was making fun of his gang member, dude,

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Speaker 2: and it got to the point where the gang.

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Speaker 5: Member just stopped arguing with him. He's like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 5: all right, I'll see you after the show. And he

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Speaker 5: saw him after the show. And Rujue did not like

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Speaker 5: the way this meeting turned out.

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Speaker 2: Should have been more polite in the meeting, right, but

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Speaker 2: drew it.

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Speaker 5: In this argument, he keeps talking about how Floyd Mayweather,

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Speaker 5: how his fights are boring. He's a defensive fighter. All

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Speaker 5: his fights have all this hype, but then in the

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Speaker 5: fight there's not a lot of action. But that is

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Speaker 5: a testament to Floyd Mayweather's marketing mastery because he's a

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Speaker 5: defensive fighter and he knows it. His style was not

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Speaker 5: exciting to people who are not boxing purists like I

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Speaker 5: love watching him fight, like Cory Erbman watches him fight

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Speaker 5: because I really get off on the craft of boxing.

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Speaker 2: But most people don't. They want accent, that's why they

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Speaker 2: like back out.

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Speaker 5: But Mayweather is still able to compel people to buy

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Speaker 5: his fights. It de pays a lot of money to

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Speaker 5: watch his fights, and that's really how well he markets himself.

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Speaker 2: It's not it's not an insult.

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Speaker 5: It's funny to hear rue Jude saying this stuff to

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Speaker 5: him like it's a negative when it overwhelmingly is a positive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Hate, this is the thing. Hate can't hit Floyd

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Speaker 2: Mayweather right. Just because you hate him, It does.

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Speaker 8: Not make the motherfucker on the other side of that

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Speaker 8: fucking ring be able to hear him.

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Speaker 2: And people don't understand that yet.

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Speaker 8: It has been years and people are still on some like,

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Speaker 8: but I really dislike Floyd Mayweather. Now, I'm sure this

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Speaker 8: dude's gonna knock him round, like, but that's that.

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Speaker 2: That has nothing to do with the fucking skill of.

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Speaker 8: The other dude in the ring, and the more importantly,

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Speaker 8: the skill of Floyd Mayweather, which is always much more

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Speaker 8: superior to contested, to the to the to the aponent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well the others. It's a couple of things going

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Speaker 2: on here.

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Speaker 5: One is that most people, a lot of people jumping

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Speaker 5: in on on this debate don't really watch all of boxing.

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Speaker 5: They only watch many pack out, and then you watch

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Speaker 5: Manny Pacaw and you hear everybody tell you that Manny

633
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Speaker 5: Packy is in destructible, you start to believe it. So

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Speaker 5: this is like, this is like if you'd only watched

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Speaker 5: the University of Alabama play, you know, up until yesterday,

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Speaker 5: and you could not conceive of a team that could

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Speaker 5: beat Alabama even though LSU is right there, don't tell

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Speaker 5: me about no LSU, I've watched Alabama play. No one's

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Speaker 5: beat Alabama, therefore they cannot be beat well, yes and no.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing is like.

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Speaker 5: Bob Aram controls so much of the debate and the

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Speaker 5: dialogue around Mayweather for whatever reason that Bob Aram is

643
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Speaker 5: a proven liar, but he tells people Mayweather's afraid, so

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Speaker 5: people believe it when it's equally as likely that.

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Speaker 2: Aaron is afraid to put in pack out, hey Weather.

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Speaker 8: Because I'd actually go one, I go one more than

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Speaker 8: that with your college football analogy, right, I would. I

648
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Speaker 8: would say it's somebody who hates LSU so much. Yes,

649
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Speaker 8: they only watch LSU every fucking week they go Kentucky down,

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Speaker 8: Tukey gonna come on in there, man, I'm telling you

651
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Speaker 8: the week I hate LSU even more than last week.

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Speaker 2: So Kentucky is gonna tear them up. They don't like how.

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Speaker 8: Many fucking times do you be wrong before you have

654
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Speaker 8: to bow down and be like, yo, man, I would

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Speaker 8: believe you.

656
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Speaker 2: Can knock out Mayweather.

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Speaker 8: When I see him on the ground unconscious, that'll be

658
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Speaker 8: the first time I go, you know what, Apparently that

659
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Speaker 8: dude was the man.

660
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Speaker 5: Well, this is what happens too, is that people well,

661
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 5: and this is what happens every Mayweather fight. Going into

662
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 5: the fight, this is supposed to be the guy that

663
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 5: beats Mayweather, and people come up with this list of

664
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Speaker 5: reasons why fighter X is gonna beat Mayweather.

665
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: And then after Mayweather thrash is a guy they said, well,

666
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: you know what, that guy was not good in the

667
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: first place.

668
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 5: Like really, forty eight hours before Mayweather laid them out,

669
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 5: you were telling me you had a a strong and

670
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 5: what you thought was a well reasoned argument why Oscar

671
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 5: de la Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Quark and Wellmark As, Shane

672
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 5: Moseley and Victor Ortiz were He's gonna beat Mayweather.

673
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: And you know we talk about this a lot too.

674
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: Is like people's prejudices.

675
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 5: You cannot argue with people's prejudices, and a lot of

676
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 5: people are predisposed to think that Mayweather is weak or

677
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 5: a chicken and a coward and can't fight like and

678
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: can't and there's a guy who runs and is afraid

679
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 5: to engage, and it doesn't matter that he could show

680
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 5: you in a fight that he is absolutely none of

681
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 5: these things, that he's a guy who can box, that

682
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 5: really knows how to fight too. Like you wouldn't believe

683
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 5: the number of people had told me that Mayweather like

684
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 5: ran from Ricky Hatton and I'm like, okay, clearly you

685
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 5: didn't watch the fight.

686
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: That's still that is still one of.

687
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 8: The most awkward interactions social interactions.

688
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: I've ever had.

689
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 8: They ordered just fight at a party full of white people,

690
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 8: and quickly I realized I was the only one rooting

691
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 8: for Shade for Floyd Moneyweather, and it got it was

692
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 8: it was like, oh my, I was.

693
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 2: Well, time to go care, you know what I mean,

694
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: Like I bopped.

695
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 8: His ass up and I was like, well, I'll be

696
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 8: back later, Like I didn't even like it was to

697
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 8: that point where like people wanted to put money on

698
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 8: the fight, and I'm like, I'm not gonna take your money.

699
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: Yet because You're gonna already be pissed.

700
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 8: I can tell before the fight started you are going

701
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 8: to be pissed in like an hour.

702
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let me.

703
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 8: Just not compound it by also taking your money by

704
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 8: exit door.

705
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was just I don't know, man, that that

706
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: shit is crazy. Chris, you watched boxing.

707
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 9: At all, Man, not that much anymore. But I understand

708
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 9: where you guys are coming from. I think a lot

709
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 9: of the people that are interested that in the boxing,

710
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 9: they're casual. Most of them are casual fans when they

711
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 9: get upset like that because you're paying, you're paying a

712
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 9: good amount of money to watch what a lot of

713
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 9: people say is one of the best to ever do it.

714
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 9: And when he beats somebody up with surgical precisions and

715
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 9: it's not sexy, it's not you know, there's no fireworks,

716
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 9: then you get pissed.

717
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: But that that but you Chris, we lose, Chris, all right,

718
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: you're still that go ahead. I'm sorry.

719
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 9: Oh, I was just saying that basically a lot of

720
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 9: the boxing fans, the people that claim to be fans,

721
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 9: are casual fans, and they can't understand.

722
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: They don't want to understand. Like Morgan or a Cory.

723
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 9: That you're paying to see one of the best guys

724
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 9: to ever do it, and when he beats somebody up

725
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 9: with like clinical precision, then they get upset because it's

726
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 9: it's they wanted to see more fireworks. But and then

727
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 9: another aspect of it is just they just don't like

728
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 9: the guy because he he might talk a little too much,

729
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 9: or he might be a little too playing.

730
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: Boy, I don't think it's a little well, you know

731
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm just.

732
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Speaker 9: I'm trying to I'm being a little political, but I mean,

733
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 9: he talks a lot. And then you know a lot

734
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 9: of folks don't like black men that speak their mind

735
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 9: and say whatever it is they want to say.

736
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Speaker 2: And surprise, No, I'm just saying it's no surprise no.

737
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: Well in Mayweather's fully aware of that.

738
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Speaker 5: And bo makes this point too, Bomoni Jones, is that

739
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 5: you know, there's not a lot of money in being

740
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 5: a black fighter, if you're not a heavyweight in being

741
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 5: a black fighter, that's not you know, an out and

742
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 5: out bad guy like a hell Because boy, man, that

743
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 5: there's a smart guy. He watched how marketable Oscar de

744
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 5: la Hoya became. He wasn't white, but he was close enough,

745
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 5: right Juna two.

746
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: Thousand, Shane Moseley knocks him off. They're both undefeated.

747
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 8: Uh.

748
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: Shane Mosey, you know, had this following.

749
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 5: People liked him, he was a nice guy, had this

750
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 5: great story, him and a dad trained together, blah blah blah.

751
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: Shane Moseley knocks him off.

752
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 5: And after that fight, you would think, you know, that

753
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 5: that would have been the fight to put Shane Mosley

754
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 5: over and make him the next megastar.

755
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: And it never happened. He's this great guy, a nice smile,

756
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: he's alive as all this stuff. But like, sh it

757
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: never happened. He never got put over.

758
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 5: And you notice, like when Floyd Mayweather U two thousand

759
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 5: and six, he beats.

760
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: He beats what does he beat that year?

761
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 5: He beats zab Judah and he beats Carlos Baltimre. He

762
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 5: gets out of this contract with Bob Aaron and this

763
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 5: is when pretty boy Floyd Mayweather dies. This is a

764
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 5: guy that was supposed to be the nice guy, you know,

765
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 5: and become marketable that way because he realizes no money

766
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 5: in that and then there's money. Mayweather character is born.

767
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 5: Leading up to the Oscar de with Hoya fight, and

768
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 5: it's been much more lucrative for him than being the

769
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 5: nice guy would ever be.

770
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's much more influential too, because now you've

771
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 8: got Ray J talking about punching people and shit. I

772
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 8: mean that that type of leadership, you know, takes a

773
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 8: lot out of somebody else.

774
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, will you have to say something? Can something? Are

775
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: we live? Are we live? Right now? Morgan, Karen Chris,

776
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: I love y'all, man, I love y'all.

777
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Speaker 8: Okay, all right, So the other thing last week, I

778
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 8: forgot to bring this part of this conversation up. But

779
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 8: and Culture said some racist shit. Typically, you know, she

780
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 8: says inflammatory things. It's really hard to get upset at

781
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 8: and Culture at this point, Like that's what I was

782
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 8: telling people. But she found a way to make the

783
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Speaker 8: news by basically saying that Republicans blacks were better than

784
00:35:54,160 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 8: Democrats blacks, whatever that means. But the part of the conversation,

785
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 8: and I waited a while to make sure that it

786
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 8: had enough time to go through the entire media cycle

787
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 8: and everything, there's part of this conversation that never ever

788
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 8: got brought up having heard one person make any sort

789
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 8: of take this line out of context or bring this

790
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 8: up to say she was racist. She said that herman

791
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 8: Kane was blacker than Obama, and nobody said, shit, he

792
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 8: is blacker than Obama. And that's my point. It's like

793
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 8: silently everybody agreed. Now I'm not saying now, obviously there's

794
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 8: all kinds of ways to be black, blah blah.

795
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I skin tone. But and no, it's not

796
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: even just she was not talking about skinning. Of course

797
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 2: she wasn't.

798
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Speaker 8: But I really found it interesting that everyone picked out

799
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Speaker 8: the hour blacks their black's comment and completely left the

800
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Speaker 8: whole like a white lady who probably you know, knows

801
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 8: one black person, which is Al Sharpton.

802
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: Yeah that she she knows him from argument sometimes right,

803
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: But like, I just thought.

804
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 8: It was interesting that she was able to say that

805
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 8: and get a complete pass man, like, is this interesting?

806
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 2: That's all nothing? You know? Is it odd or is

807
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: it true? It depends on.

808
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 5: It's it's it's it's you can swing blindly like and culture,

809
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 5: I think is doing the situation and say something that

810
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 5: on the surface happens to be true.

811
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: And it's not. But it's not.

812
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 5: Like what she said comes from some deeper understanding of

813
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 5: African American history and culture and the different types of

814
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 5: African Americans, you know that that that that populate the country.

815
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 5: Like she she might she might have recognized that Herman

816
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 5: Kane is blacker than Barack Obama because Herman Kane probably

817
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 5: reminds her of, I don't know, the black people she's

818
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 5: used to seeing in a minstrel show or.

819
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 2: Something like that, or serving her right, yes exactly.

820
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 5: But in terms of her like, uh, you guys know,

821
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 5: John mcworder is uh not wrote authentically black. He's a

822
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 5: he's a linguist, but also like a conservative black commentator.

823
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 5: You see him show up on CNN sometimes. It's got

824
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 5: a book called Authentically Black and another one called It's.

825
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: Quick Aside, It's just me?

826
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 8: Or does every black conservative have to write a fucking

827
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 8: book about being what black means?

828
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: Now?

829
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 8: Every single fucking one. It's like they get in the club,

830
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 8: you gotta be like, here's my book.

831
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: What the fun?

832
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 5: Well, it's also every black conservative thinks they're the first

833
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 5: black conservative.

834
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: Yes, hey, guess what, guys, I'm black and I'm a conservative.

835
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: All right, I'm behind J. C. Watson. Michael Steele thinks.

836
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 5: But one of his arguments was that you know, you

837
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 5: really could you could plot like blackness, you know, on

838
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 5: a continuum, and certain people are more black than other

839
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 5: people in the same way that like if I'm if

840
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: I'm Dominican, right and I moved to the United States,

841
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 5: my parents would be a lot more Dominican than I am.

842
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 5: I'm still Dominican, but I've also had other influences that

843
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 5: made me less Dominican than they are. So you could argue,

844
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 5: you know, correctly that Herman kane because he was you know,

845
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 5: he was brought up in the United States and his

846
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 5: background is African American in the sense of a traditional

847
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: African American. He's blacker than Barack Obama is, and that

848
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 5: would be correct. But I just don't think and culture's

849
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 5: understanding of the situation right right now if she understood

850
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 5: the situation that way to lead her to make that

851
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 5: statement again, it was based on something much more superficial.

852
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Speaker 2: What now, Chris, were you about to say something too well?

853
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 9: I just think when people when when she made that comment,

854
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 9: it was it was lazy like mornings. It's almost like

855
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 9: a blind, an uneducated, educated comment. Because her mc kane

856
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 9: went to an HBCU right with the car did.

857
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Speaker 2: I don't know where he went to school?

858
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Speaker 9: Man.

859
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Speaker 2: To be honest, I would assume an HBCU man, because

860
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Speaker 2: you know, I think people keep talking about him pledging

861
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: this black frat.

862
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Speaker 8: I can't remember which one it was, but I know

863
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 8: doctor Rick aka Madick of the Feeling the Lazes podcast,

864
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Speaker 8: they keep joking about him being in the same frat.

865
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Speaker 2: So I'm assuming he had to go to a black

866
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Speaker 2: school to get that. I think when you're said about it, when.

867
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Speaker 9: You think about it, neither one of them, Barack or

868
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 9: Herman Kane or what you would consider to be black anyway.

869
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 9: I'm talking about that on a surface level, as far

870
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Speaker 9: as like maybe like being at the barbershop, you.

871
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Speaker 2: Know, like, oh you you ain't really black.

872
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 9: Because if they're not playing, they didn't make their money

873
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 9: by like playing basketball or rapping or being an entertainer,

874
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 9: then that sets the part that sets them apart from

875
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Speaker 9: from you or me or you know, anybody else.

876
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: I mean, when you look at that and at the

877
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: MTV level of blackness right there.

878
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 8: Right, I would think that Obama being a basketball playing

879
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 8: dude and just being cool as shit qualifies as black.

880
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: Like and I mean obviously this, I mean there's no

881
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: way to quantify or qualify real blackness. But this is

882
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: what I'm coming at it from. I feel I feel.

883
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 8: Like it's the lowered expectations of like the fact that

884
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 8: the Republicans are so racist, it has lowered expectations of

885
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 8: a black candidate because Hermi.

886
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: Kane can't talk.

887
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 8: And I don't know if anyone has noticed this. This

888
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 8: motherfucker literally cannot talk well. And I know that it's

889
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 8: racist quote unquote for white people to be like this

890
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 8: guy speaks so well, but it's really look, I noticed the.

891
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: Same shit as y'all. I guess y'all just can't say.

892
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 8: It out loud anymore without it being politically incorrect. But

893
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 8: in general, Hermi Kane cannot fucking talk. I really wish

894
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 8: this dude would step tough Obama in some form of

895
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 8: a debate. It would not It would not end well.

896
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 5: And the thing is, I don't it would end well

897
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 5: for him and his constituency because again, you're you're you're

898
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 5: appaying much too much logic to this situation.

899
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: People that are already predisposed to like Herman Kane.

900
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter what he says in the debate, because

901
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 5: if he gets up there and stutters, you know, and

902
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 5: and just makes a bunch of circular arguments.

903
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: Then they'll just say, you know.

904
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 5: What, Well, it's because he's too cool, and well, it's

905
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 5: because he's too genuine, he's too raw to come out

906
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 5: here and give a scripted argument.

907
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: So he's just and that's didn't make any sense.

908
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 8: I assume that the people who are staunchly set in

909
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 8: their ways aren't going to see it.

910
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about what it tells to a debate.

911
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 8: The real crowd that you're trying to cater to is

912
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 8: that undecided vote. That that that the casual observer of politics,

913
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 8: if you will, And that guy is gonna turn on

914
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 8: the TV and see this motherfucker talking halfway job and

915
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 8: see Barack Obama and turn his fucking TV off, like

916
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 8: oh okay, God necessarily, So you think middle you think

917
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 8: the undecided are gonna look, it'd be like.

918
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 2: Herman Kaine keeping it real. I don't think. Well, here's

919
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 2: you have a theory about And if you.

920
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 5: Listen to the all balls don't bounce podcast listeners, and

921
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 5: you know that up here in my in my in

922
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 5: my palatial peenthouse which we sometimes record, I have this

923
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 5: closet where I keep broadbrushes and sometimes I have to

924
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 5: get this broad brush in paint.

925
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: Right. I've used your brush a few times on this show.

926
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 5: Yes, Because here's the thing, Here's the thing we forget

927
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 5: about a lot of white Americans.

928
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: Is that what a lot of white Americans. And this

929
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: is why, like truly, Herman Kaine is.

930
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 5: Is a real threat to Obama. And not because of

931
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 5: like any aptitude he might actually have for doing the job,

932
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 5: but because one thing that white people really enjoy is

933
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 5: a fight between black.

934
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: People that allows them to choose sides. Right. So this

935
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: is why white people got so excited over this Grant

936
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: Hill versus Jalen Rose thing. When any other.

937
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 5: Time are white people interested at all in the minutia

938
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 5: of black identity?

939
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: Never? Right, But you have.

940
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 5: Jalen Rose saying that he perceived Grand Hill as an

941
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 5: uncle Tom, and Grant Hill comes back firing, right and

942
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 5: like blasting all these pathologies that he feels infect the

943
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 5: black community. And you have all these white guys jumping

944
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 5: in on Grand hillside, like why right? But it allows them,

945
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 5: you know, because a black guy has said, has said

946
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 5: all these things that they think about black people, but

947
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 5: never say they can jump in on Grand hillside. All

948
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 5: of a sudden they're enthralled, and there's debate on the

949
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 5: fine points of black identity, which is stuff that we

950
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 5: might talk about all the time.

951
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: Most of the time white people don't care about. So

952
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 2: you have this fight now between this educated black guy

953
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 2: and Herman Kaine.

954
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 5: You know a lot of white people are gonna choose

955
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 5: Herman Kain because he makes them feel more comfortable, because

956
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 5: Herman Kin traffics so heavily in stereotype.

957
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: But that's what white people are used to. This's what

958
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: they like at the.

959
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 5: Paint with the broad bread, and that's what So I

960
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 5: think a debate, even though Herman kan would make himself

961
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 5: look like an idiot, would still win him a lot

962
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 5: of undecided white voters.

963
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 8: I have more faith, much more faith apparently in white

964
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 8: people than you did. I don't think that would happen

965
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 8: on a million I don't even think that would happen

966
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 8: once out of a million times. Because, like the thing is,

967
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 8: it's like the Sarah Palin phenomena. It was cool to

968
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 8: a point, and then that shit got to a point

969
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 8: where it was like, oh, she actually had a debate Biden,

970
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 8: who's not a really good debater honestly, but a couple

971
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 8: of gaps in the debate and all of a sudden

972
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 8: it was like, oh, you know what, She's not gonna

973
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 8: get it together. And I feel the same way with

974
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 8: this Herman Kaine thing, like when you do have these

975
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 8: two black dudes going to each other, who is gonna

976
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 8: be the one considered Jalen Rose and who's gonna be

977
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 8: the one considered Gray Hill? Because remember this is Herman

978
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 8: Kaine that also thinks Obama is not a real black president.

979
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 8: And I feel like white people can't wait to swoop

980
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 8: in and fucking have his back, Like you.

981
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 2: Don't get to say that he is not as black,

982
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: and you don't get to say that, so that is wrong.

983
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 8: So because he is articulate and he's this, I really

984
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 8: feel like that's where they'll come, like shutting down racism.

985
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 8: White people have no problem with that, and in this case,

986
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 8: I feel like the undecided.

987
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: Are the people who aren't comfortable with.

988
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 8: Some of these social issues in the Republican Party I

989
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 8: don't like. I feel like the reason people aren't like

990
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 8: where they say they're undecided, it's because they look at

991
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 8: Republicans and.

992
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: Go, yeah, but I'm not racist, but I don't hate

993
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: gay people.

994
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 8: So that's why they stay undecided, and I don't think

995
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 8: playing that up is gonna win them votes.

996
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: I think that's why they lost the last election too.

997
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 2: Like you just can't.

998
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 8: There's certain shit where you gotta be like, look, they

999
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 8: don't want to vote for me already for a reason.

1000
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 8: And Perry, I mean not Perry Romney much much much

1001
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 8: more scarier than me as far as being able to win.

1002
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: But also much more reasonable than Herman Kane. So I guess.

1003
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: So I guess if he was compared.

1004
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 8: On the Hermon Kaine, I would rather have Romney, but

1005
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 8: compared to Obama, I'd rather have Obama than Rodney. But

1006
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 8: I feel like I don't even think Herman Kain will

1007
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 8: get out of the primary for Republicans.

1008
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: I don't think he will either.

1009
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 9: I think if you use more than model with the

1010
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 9: grand Hills and Jalen Rose thing, Herman Herman Kain is

1011
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 9: jailing roll. Well, the Herman Kaine is grand Hill and

1012
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 9: Obama is Jaalen Rose. Because that's who that's who. They said, Well,

1013
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 9: you got the Democrats, you got your guy. We got

1014
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 9: one that that kind of looks just like him, So

1015
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 9: that go ahead.

1016
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: I think it's the opposite.

1017
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 8: I think the attacker would have to be Kane because

1018
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 8: it's who's attacking who here.

1019
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: So Jalen Rose.

1020
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 8: Was seen as attacking Grant Hill, and white people came

1021
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 8: to defend Grant Hill. And I think anytime you're challenging

1022
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 8: to political office to somebody who's already sitting, you have

1023
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 8: no choice to take on the role of the attacker.

1024
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 8: And unfortunately for Herman Kane, part of his arsenal is

1025
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 8: going to be that black shit and that shit is

1026
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 8: not gonna play man like Americas, like people don't realize this. Man,

1027
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 8: the Republicans are different because they actually have I think

1028
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 8: it still comes from the same place of white guilt

1029
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 8: and whatnot, but their backlash is this angry backlash, like

1030
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 8: stop bringing it up, you know what I mean.

1031
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 9: I just think I think white guilt is over with

1032
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 9: ever since Obama got elected. I think that's why you

1033
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 9: see you see you have the Tea Party, you have

1034
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 9: people making these comments called people tar babies and everything

1035
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 9: like that. I think that I think white guilt is

1036
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 9: over And I think I don't, like you said, I

1037
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 9: don't think Herman Kaine will get out of it.

1038
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: But it's to me, like the past couple of elections.

1039
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 9: Well you have like Sarah Palin, and now you've got

1040
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 9: herman Kine. You have Sarah Palin was a reaction to

1041
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 9: Hillary Clinton possibly taking some kind of an office, whether

1042
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 9: it be vice presidency or you know, whether we didn't

1043
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 9: know if she was gonna win or not in the

1044
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 9: Democratic primary.

1045
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: And now you've got herman Kane. So it's just a

1046
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 2: dog and pony show. It's like, I don't think, go ahead,

1047
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 2: can I do? When you stop at the white guilt?

1048
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: I disagree.

1049
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 8: I think because our country was founded on a lot

1050
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 8: of different things, and our country was founded on a

1051
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 8: lot of racism, and it's embedded and rooted and a

1052
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 8: lot of the laws and a lot of the things

1053
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 8: that we even have today.

1054
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 10: Yes, it has changed, but I think that for a

1055
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 10: lot of white people when it comes to that, they

1056
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 10: feel a lot of stigmatism, a lot of shame to

1057
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 10: it because their grandfather, great grandfather may have had something

1058
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 10: to do with it.

1059
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: So I don't think that's ever gonna be washed away.

1060
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 10: And I think whenever it's bought up, instead of them

1061
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 10: embracing the fact that no, it was not me and

1062
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 10: what can I do to change this, it's all fuck

1063
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 10: you get over it.

1064
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 8: It didn't exist. We got a black president. Everything is normal.

1065
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 8: It's zero zero now and it doesn't work. And that

1066
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 8: the thing is even that constituent, even that percentage of

1067
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 8: white folks, is it the majority in my opinion, But

1068
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 8: also like that is still coming from a place of

1069
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 8: shame and guilt. Like it's not it's not gone, you

1070
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 8: know what I mean, Like maybe they changed their tactic,

1071
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 8: but the entire basis of shutting someone down, even the

1072
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 8: shutting down of Jalen Rose, was based in people not

1073
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 8: wanting to think about their benefiting or their role, or

1074
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 8: their acceptance of a certain type of black person and

1075
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 8: not another type.

1076
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: Like all that shit is is uh not.

1077
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 8: To get too psychological or whatever. Obviously I'm not any

1078
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 8: type of right, well, I've got here for you. I

1079
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 8: feel like all that ship is just reaction to that

1080
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 8: guilt man, And I feel like Republicans have tried to

1081
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 8: turn it into a we're gonna be vocal and active.

1082
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 8: We're gonna say that the new racism is against white people.

1083
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 8: We're gonna say sexual harassment is bullshit. We're gonna say

1084
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 8: like they're just saying whatever they can say. But at

1085
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 8: the end, of the day.

1086
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: They're all just trying to avoid this that that that tiny.

1087
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 8: Voice they just gotta say. But I love Herman Kane

1088
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 8: because that ship right.

1089
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: There makes them.

1090
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 8: It eases them a little bit, but it doesn't solve

1091
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Speaker 8: the main issue, which is, you know, we're fucked up

1092
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 8: about this race ship.

1093
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: I think it's so we don't want to talk about it.

1094
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't know that if you

1095
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: feel that.

1096
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 5: White guilt, you're going to be a Republican. But Herman Kane,

1097
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 5: it's not that he eases to me, it's not so

1098
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 5: much that he eases the guilty as much as it's

1099
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 5: he validates or allows them to tell themselves that they

1100
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 5: aren't racist, right, Yes, so that you feel.

1101
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 8: Guilty about that racism, man, but he allows you to

1102
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 8: a wage that shit.

1103
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 5: I just don't know that Republicans feel guilty about it

1104
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 5: as much. I think that open racism is still like

1105
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 5: not tolerated anymore.

1106
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 8: But and this is why I think again, I think

1107
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 8: they do because I have read that are Republican. Yes,

1108
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 8: I have friends that are like that. I've held their

1109
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 8: babies and they're fucking Republicans. And I guarantee you they're

1110
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 8: not like walking out the house and going that nigger

1111
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 8: rod it is. It's not like if they were, I

1112
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 8: wouldn't be around. But that's true to I don't feel

1113
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 8: that from them, and I don't think it's like they're

1114
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 8: just so good at I really feel like there's a

1115
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 8: part of them that just has to shut off the

1116
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 8: social policies of.

1117
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 2: Republicans like that shit ain't me, but I do want them.

1118
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 8: Low taxes, and that's how they roll, Like I don't

1119
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 8: think it's just like I think it's an avoidance of

1120
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 8: confronting racism. That's what, in my opinion, would also not

1121
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 8: talk about it, because if I talk.

1122
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: About it, I have to start admitting that I have made.

1123
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 8: Some fucking uh what do you what do you call

1124
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 8: that shit compromises morally to fucking you know, to batch

1125
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 8: my pocket.

1126
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's more. It's more than one of those things,

1127
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: like I don't agree with.

1128
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 8: Everything that they do, but I know I'm in that

1129
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 8: percentage where my taxes will be lower.

1130
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: I'll vote for you.

1131
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 8: And when it comes to that, everybody kind of compromises

1132
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 8: because no one party.

1133
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: Solves all the issues right.

1134
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 8: Anyway, That's my theory, man, these I don't think because,

1135
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 8: like I said, if I didn't know them, I think

1136
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 8: I might feel that way. But I fucking know these dudes, man,

1137
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 8: these people, these dudes are on some like, hey, why

1138
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 8: we all talk about race?

1139
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: That's what they feel like because they know that they.

1140
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 8: Know they gonna be on the wrong part when it

1141
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 8: comes to their party, So they're like, can we just

1142
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 8: not even talk about it? Because I have black friends,

1143
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 8: and I do black shit, and I have you know,

1144
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 8: I'm cool with them, and I don't know why I

1145
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 8: gotta be fucking dragged in the middle of this and

1146
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 8: it always comes down to that shit. And I feel

1147
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 8: like there's a lot of them when it comes to

1148
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 8: the to the actual election that would tap out if

1149
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 8: it turned into some race shit. There's a lot of

1150
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 8: them that are gonna just feel like clean out, tap out.

1151
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 8: I don't feel comfortable right now. I don't like thinking

1152
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 8: about this shit. Don't bring it up, right, don't bring

1153
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 8: it up like I think that's where you would get

1154
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 8: some backlash from and as Herman Kane would be the one.

1155
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: Bringing up all the race shit everything.

1156
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 8: That's gonna be a problem, man, cause it's like I said, Demartin,

1157
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 8: don't let Themorrok or Republicans foody, all of these goddamn debates.

1158
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: They be cheering death like. They be cheering like the

1159
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: death fenalty. Yes, that is not a fucking thing things

1160
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 2: you can pull out.

1161
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 8: Into Middle America. And by Middle America I mean undersided voters.

1162
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 8: You can't just put it after people who are on

1163
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 8: the fence and be like, so I really like killing people.

1164
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 8: They're gonna be like, get the fuck out of here, man,

1165
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 8: I don't want to think about that.

1166
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: Let's killed or men. Recind it, my brother's men, and

1167
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: they're not going for that. That's the good anyway. Man.

1168
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to get on political man, it's I got that.

1169
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 8: So I thought that and colcher is saying he was

1170
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 8: black shit went over real smooth.

1171
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: That's all I'm gonna say about that.

1172
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 9: It's just not a sexier, A sexier our blacks are

1173
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 9: better than their blacks is a better sound bite.

1174
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: So that's what everybody ran with.

1175
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 9: What what What baffles me about the whole thing is

1176
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 9: like if we say that people they don't want to

1177
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 9: deal with this racism stuff. I don't see why people

1178
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 9: get surprised when they why they always get surprised when

1179
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 9: people make statements like that.

1180
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying about white jils.

1181
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 8: It's something, it's something so shocking to the core where

1182
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 8: you can't avoid it. Like I'll give you another good example, Pap.

1183
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 8: You can't Pap Buchan. It can go on MSNBC, which

1184
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 8: is supposed to be the liberal channel, and if you're

1185
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 8: some type of Democrat person, you won't be.

1186
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: Like, no, it's not that ship is a very fucking

1187
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: liberal channel.

1188
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 8: And they will have Pat you can is racist ass

1189
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 8: on TV saying racist shit, and they would just co

1190
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 8: sign it by.

1191
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: Not arguing it.

1192
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 8: And I don't mean yeah, I don't mean co signing like, well,

1193
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 8: we both believe it, but that's just whole like, well,

1194
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 8: you're a racist, fucking you're old.

1195
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: Say what you're gonna say, and we'll move on to

1196
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: the next topic.

1197
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 11: And that and to me is that that moment where

1198
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 11: he said something in coded language normally, where he said

1199
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 11: something in coded language that is just fucking, unrelentingly racist,

1200
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 11: and they moved to that next topic.

1201
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: That's the moment I'm talking about, Chris.

1202
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 8: That's the moment America has constantly, we are constantly stuck

1203
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 8: in that moment that oh that was racist. Anyway, a

1204
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 8: puppy learned how to drive a car.

1205
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: A channel. We live in a generation, I guess all.

1206
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 9: I like all of us are pretty much in the

1207
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 9: same age gap, age and race or whatever the hell

1208
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 9: you age bracket and.

1209
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 2: Most of our general we never had to fight for anything.

1210
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 9: And uh so a lot of people don't want to,

1211
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 9: like take a stance on anything. And that's why it's

1212
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 9: interesting that you got people like occupy Wall Street and

1213
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 9: everywhere else.

1214
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 2: But I think, uh, people feel they.

1215
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 9: Feel uncomfortable with that, with taking a stance on issues

1216
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 9: like that, And when somebody brings that to a head,

1217
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 9: they said, well, I don't want to lose my job

1218
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 9: if I say something against this guy.

1219
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 2: I want to stay stack, keep a status quote and

1220
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 2: get my money, get my check. Yeah. I just think

1221
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 2: people don't like thinking about it. Honestly. I think it's

1222
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: dad simple.

1223
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 8: It's like if uh, it's like if your dad raped

1224
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 8: somebody and the fucking rape victim brought it up to

1225
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 8: you or the child or the rape victim, like, you

1226
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 8: are not gonna be like, yeah, let's have a seat

1227
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 8: and discuss this shit. You're like, ooh, my dad did

1228
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 8: some fucked up shit, Let's not talk about it and

1229
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 8: pretend to be friends. That's easiest way.

1230
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 2: And I think that that's all it comes down to.

1231
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 8: Even the people that are for her McCain, that are

1232
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 8: really starting supporters, are on some like, hey, he never

1233
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 8: brings up that rape thing, and.

1234
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 2: When he does, he says it's too like that's why

1235
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: they suck with him, man, you know.

1236
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 5: But that's what I'm saying, And that's where I think

1237
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 5: our arguments kind of converge is that Herman Kain is

1238
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 5: the black guy that makes the white people around him

1239
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 5: feel much more comfortable and more comfortable than Barack Obama does.

1240
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 5: And that's why I think a lot and even a

1241
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 5: lot of undecided white people, even though Hermancain is clearly

1242
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 5: a moron, will kind of gravitate towards him because because

1243
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 5: of just that.

1244
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 8: Well, we will see, my friend, that is the benefit

1245
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 8: of having this shit recorded, and the next time we'll

1246
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 8: hopefully that you back way before then. But eventually, when

1247
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 8: Obama either wins this shit or her McCain doesn't even

1248
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 8: get out of primary, you can be like, well, damn.

1249
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 2: Because I don't think white people is that fucking student.

1250
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 5: Well, you know who played himself and all of this

1251
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 5: is Rick Perry because oh God, say I.

1252
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 8: Got a quick question, quick question though, why does Rick

1253
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 8: Perry want to be the guy takes down Herman Kain?

1254
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: Though you got the niggerhead.

1255
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 8: Scanned the dog, don't have a seat, don't be that guy,

1256
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 8: don't like you get. You had to tap this one

1257
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 8: out like ooh, I'll wait till Rodney's the front runner again.

1258
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: Here's the thing again.

1259
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 5: Like Herman Kane only appeals to Republican voters and the

1260
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 5: general public when he's up against Barack Obama. Like all

1261
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 5: he had to do. All Rick Perry had to do

1262
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 5: was sit back and wait and wait. Have some faith

1263
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 5: in in in in the bigotry of the Republican electorate.

1264
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 5: Because at a certain point, all these Republican voters we're

1265
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 5: gonna vote the primary, They're gonna wake up one day

1266
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 5: and be like, holy shit, we got a choice between

1267
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 5: a black guy we fucking hate black people and a

1268
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 5: Mormon and we hate Mormons too.

1269
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 2: Step up, you know.

1270
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 5: But he was too impatient, and he goes out, he

1271
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 5: goes on the offensive and winds up damaging his own candidacy.

1272
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 5: And now it is between the black guy and the

1273
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 5: Morman two groups of people that that that Christian Conservative

1274
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 5: and Republicans hate.

1275
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: But one of them is gonna get it.

1276
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I won't be surprised he gets out of his primary.

1277
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 8: That'll be shocking by hisself. And if that motherfucker beats Obama,

1278
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 8: I'm leaving.

1279
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, I don't mind hundred dollars set to

1280
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: the side of my passport. Yeah, get their passports to

1281
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: get the funk.

1282
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 5: On out, all right, Canada, Man, the Republic, it's a

1283
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 5: it's a lot less virulent strain.

1284
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: Of conservatism is overtaking this country. Yeah, I feel like

1285
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 2: to you.

1286
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 8: No matter what, it can't be worse than Herman Kain.

1287
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 8: So doesn't We could go to Angola. Well, it doesn't

1288
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 8: even matter. That is Herman Kane's that nigga has a

1289
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 8: plan that is the same cause as of people it says,

1290
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 8: not makes sense hermon k Remember is.

1291
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 2: That even any goods? I heard his pad? No, it's

1292
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: not bad.

1293
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 5: You guys have to remember Herman Kay had no playing

1294
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 5: like Herman Kane just jumped in this thing just because

1295
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 5: you thought running for president would raise his profile, you know,

1296
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 5: for like public speaking gigs and stuff like this.

1297
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 2: He thought he's gonna do like Sarah Palin and.

1298
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 5: Get into the political games to raise his profile so

1299
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 5: he could jump out and never have to actually do

1300
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 5: anything political. And then all of a sudden he started

1301
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 5: getting some traction right like every moment you know from

1302
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 5: here on out.

1303
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: It's something that Herman Kane never planned for.

1304
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 8: And no, yeah, yeah, you about today that they asked

1305
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 8: him about the sexual harassment thing.

1306
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: He said, I'm not gonna ask answer those questions anymore.

1307
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 8: And then he tried to leave, and then he stopped

1308
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 8: and was like, Okay, I said, I wasn't gonna answer,

1309
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 8: but I'm about to sit down and have some and

1310
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 8: talk to you all about it.

1311
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: And his advisers literally had to pull him out the room.

1312
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 2: That does not seem like a dude who's playing this

1313
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 2: shit out. I was not playing. He didn't. And this

1314
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: is why, like sexual harassment, all this stuff, he never

1315
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 2: planned for it to get this far to the point

1316
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: where this stuff would become an issue.

1317
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 9: It's because they picked him. It's like I said, it's

1318
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 9: a dog and pony show. All of this stuff. The

1319
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 9: Craps Republicans is pro wrestling. All of is pro wrestling.

1320
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 9: They're all friends with each other and they go out

1321
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 9: and eat steak and they play and they playing with

1322
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 9: all lies.

1323
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that would be like, uh, that would be

1324
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 8: like Hitler playing golf.

1325
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 2: With that's gonna say.

1326
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, you just didn't say the names Chris going there.

1327
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: Exactly where you were going? Y'all talking about Herman Kane. No,

1328
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: he was not preparing. We've seen what was it on,

1329
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: uh the news where they.

1330
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 10: Had stopped Herman Kine and asked him about the sexual

1331
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 10: harassment he has to do.

1332
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: Have you ever been convintent?

1333
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 8: What kind of response is that?

1334
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 2: Hitting me?

1335
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 5: I love him so much. That's why Sherman King getting

1336
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 5: pulled over by the police. He's like, officers, do you

1337
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 5: know how fast you were going?

1338
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 2: You were? Did you see the speed limit? I did

1339
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 2: catch up with me. How did you catch up with.

1340
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 8: Oh?

1341
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: All right, flight was red for you? Two officers hearing it.

1342
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 5: Don't get me started on Herman came phone sex. What

1343
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 5: are you wearing?

1344
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: No? No, what are you wearing?

1345
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 8: Like?

1346
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: This is how it's gonna work. This isn't how this

1347
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: phone sex? This is not sexy Herman.

1348
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 3: No.

1349
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: Well, keeping it political? Uh. The occupy movement which is

1350
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: spreading across the country. Hy it got Canada too. Now, yeah,

1351
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: I did a story about them the other week. Wow,

1352
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 2: what are they mad about?

1353
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 5: Well, every time Americans come up with something, Canadians come

1354
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 5: up with their own version, just worse, you know what

1355
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 5: I mean. So there's Dancing with the Stars, Dancing with

1356
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 5: the Stars Canada, the American Canadian. That's just the way

1357
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 5: it goes the wire. And then there was like after

1358
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 5: the wire went off off the air, there was this

1359
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 5: Canadian cop show called The Line where they got it

1360
01:02:58,720 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 5: was just the locke.

1361
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 9: But you know what, Morgan, America will never be able

1362
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 9: to produce another Ellen page.

1363
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: You guys got that on.

1364
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 8: Us and you got Justin Bieber. Yeah, and we're trying

1365
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 8: to imitate all y'all singing stars. Well, like the thing

1366
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 8: is though, with the whole occupy movement. Of course, they

1367
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 8: got a little frisky out at Oakland. Police got up

1368
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 8: on them hippies and put gas on them and rubber

1369
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 8: bullets and ship and I found I found this to be.

1370
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 2: A great experiment in white privilege.

1371
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 8: And the cops are unifying everybody by showing no preference

1372
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 8: to harassing folks like because they are because the cops

1373
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 8: are kind of being dicks to white people and the

1374
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 8: most harmless form of white.

1375
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: People too, because these white people be in it. Like

1376
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: I see the TV and I just go off.

1377
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 8: It's like they can show Occupy Wall Street and then

1378
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 8: show kittens in the next segment, and I will still

1379
01:03:58,680 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 8: had the same look on my face.

1380
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how anyone could be.

1381
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,439
Speaker 8: Mad at And it's hilarious because a lot of these

1382
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 8: people have never really had any interaction with the police

1383
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 8: like this.

1384
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: A lot of them have never ever broke the law.

1385
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 10: A lot of them have never been harassed in any

1386
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 10: way shape from a fashion. So they are just shocked

1387
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 10: in a poll that they can get arrested, shot by bullets.

1388
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 10: They you know, they like a little ten year old

1389
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 10: yeah Zach, like, oh my gosh, I can't believe it's happening.

1390
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 8: When black folks go ha ha, this shit been happening

1391
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 8: for years now, y'all see what we've been doing. Well,

1392
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 8: I would even take it a step further. I don't

1393
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 8: even see black people being all like triumphant, like ha ha,

1394
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 8: look at you.

1395
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 2: I see more black people being like, see fuck.

1396
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 8: The cops, like like that's what I'm seeing. Like more

1397
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 8: people are being like yeah, we you know. Now you

1398
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 8: know how it is. Now you see funck the cops

1399
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 8: dang shit right, and you're like, yeah, and shit they

1400
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 8: don't give it them by us, and now you see

1401
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 8: it them giving them about you.

1402
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: My favorite part of this story so far has been

1403
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: my man, Russell Simmons.

1404
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 8: Had went on Twitter mm hmm and he told the

1405
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 8: rap artist Create Sean that she needs to go down

1406
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 8: to Oakland and organize it and get it straight, and

1407
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 8: that he would have her back.

1408
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: Create Sean that that that chick, but we're talking about this.

1409
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 8: Summer the one who rolls with V nasty and V

1410
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 8: nasty is the one who used the N word constantly.

1411
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 8: I was like, I ain't knowing, no, like no, you

1412
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 8: that can't happen and can't not like one, what does

1413
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 8: she ever say in her life that makes it seem

1414
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 8: like she would want to be involved with something political? Yes,

1415
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 8: it's like, what has she said that make you say, hmmm,

1416
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 8: she might actually know what the hemp she said? And

1417
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 8: how is she gonna bring people together when she is

1418
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 8: one of the more like uh, non unifying factors in

1419
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 8: the rap game right now, Like nobody can talk about

1420
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 8: her without bringing up the whole N word drama.

1421
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, but I don't know if you know.

1422
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: That just struck me as how irrelevant Russell Simmons is

1423
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: to Oakland.

1424
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 8: He's supposed to be from Oakland. That's that's her whole

1425
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 8: claim to famous.

1426
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 2: Like that's actually how be nasty in them, they were justifying.

1427
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 8: The use of the N word, like yes, these people,

1428
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 8: oh yeah, we talked about them on the show a

1429
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 8: few times.

1430
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 2: Man. But there they got the white girl mob and

1431
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 2: they have.

1432
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 8: The video for Gucci Gucci, which is their their single

1433
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 8: for Creationean, and that, I mean, it is really the

1434
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 8: bigger controversy for them is be Nasty as her friend

1435
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 8: and it stands for like Vanessa, but it's be nasty.

1436
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: And she used the N word constantly.

1437
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 8: She was dropping it in a freestyle, a very wax

1438
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 8: freestyle by anyone's account.

1439
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: And then she had like.

1440
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 8: A black dude in the background like bobbing his head

1441
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 8: like it was cool for her to say nigga.

1442
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 2: And then she did some type of like die tribe

1443
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 2: laying while she used wait.

1444
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 5: So it was and culture and herman Kane, her blacks

1445
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 5: are better than.

1446
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 2: The blacks that were upset.

1447
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 8: But but Anyway, I just felt like my man Russell

1448
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 8: Simmons is out of touch, Like for him to think

1449
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 8: that that's who you should sit down to organize anything.

1450
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, you might as well have.

1451
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 8: Sent too Short maybe, but if you're like, too Short

1452
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 8: has done more ship that represents the open.

1453
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 2: Community and he probably has put more money into the community.

1454
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 2: She ever will, Yes, does he not like her? Does

1455
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 2: Russell Simmons not like her? Maybe? And he wants her

1456
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 2: to go embarrass herself or your beat set up and me?

1457
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 8: So I don't know, man, Russell Simmons just does He's

1458
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 8: like the old man at the club at this point. Yes,

1459
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 8: Like go home, man, go raise your kids dogs, stop

1460
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 8: stop trying to be with hey, be cool like this

1461
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 8: nigga can't be cool forever.

1462
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: Like he's gotta be a shelf life on cool.

1463
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 5: Yes, Well, well you know you and I both just

1464
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 5: cool cool evaults right, there's a shelf life on the

1465
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 5: on the.

1466
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 2: Particular kind of cool that Russell Simmons is trying to be.

1467
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 8: Yes, Whereas there's a shelf life on you know what

1468
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 8: it is, there's a shelf life on the pursuit of cool,

1469
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 8: Like yeah.

1470
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 2: Like you can be cool.

1471
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 8: Like jay Z is just fucking cool, right, Like he

1472
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 8: just keeps up to with with shit and just constantly

1473
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 8: is changing all the time and fucking with the kids

1474
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 8: like he's that cool old man. He's just like, oh,

1475
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 8: that's that cool old man. And he knows his role.

1476
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 8: He's like, let me get married and have a kid.

1477
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 8: To stop going to the club because that ain't me, Like,

1478
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 8: I gotta I can't keep sucking with y'all kids no more.

1479
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 2: It was nice, you know, but like jay Z is

1480
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 2: cool to.

1481
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 8: The point where he said I want to put on

1482
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 8: button ups and everybody was like, I want to put

1483
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 8: on button up too. Let me take off my throwback

1484
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 8: jersey Russell Simmons not that kind of cool. Now You've

1485
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 8: been wearing the same hat, yes, like fifty years.

1486
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 5: And my sister always makes this point, there's there's a

1487
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 5: time in your life as if your brother, like you

1488
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 5: can't be wearing gear anymore, Like Russell Simmons is too

1489
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 5: old to be rocking gear. You know, I'm wearing fat

1490
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 5: form like dude, No, man, you can't be worried about

1491
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 5: having the whitest sneakers at this point in your life.

1492
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay with me mortgage. This is my motto.

1493
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 8: You become to an age where you go buck what

1494
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 8: everybody else thinks, I'm gonna do me.

1495
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 10: You really have to get to that point in order

1496
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 10: to be comfortable, and wherever you are, that's where your

1497
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 10: cool is. I'm to the point now where because of Twitter,

1498
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 10: I only know certain slang because of Twitter. You know,

1499
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 10: if I wouldn't out there, I wouldn't know that a

1500
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 10: box is more than just a box.

1501
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,799
Speaker 2: You know, this is shit that I learned on Twitter.

1502
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 2: I'm just keeping that real. I'm to the point where

1503
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1504
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 8: Obligating myself to stay hiped and to stay cool.

1505
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 2: But you know that shit takes work. When you got

1506
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 2: a nine to five. That shit takes work, when you

1507
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 2: got a four one K. That shit takes work where

1508
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 2: you're paying bills and mortgage.

1509
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 8: If you're asked it at home all day and don't

1510
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 8: got shit else to do, I understand why you're on

1511
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 8: top of that shit. All right, So have y'all guys

1512
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 8: heard about the Well if you haven't heard of Creation,

1513
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure you haven't heard of this person, uh

1514
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 8: two Chains.

1515
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 2: You heard about this rapper two Change formerly Teddy Boy.

1516
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 8: People talking about Yeah, Well, he's as wack as he

1517
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 8: sounds and very ignorant just by the nature of his

1518
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 8: name and everything.

1519
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 2: I was completely against him from.

1520
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 8: The out jump he was in the cipher on the

1521
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 8: bt HI Pop Awards, okay, and and the nigg is

1522
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 8: his rap by going two chains like that's that's his thing. Yeah,

1523
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 8: And I can't support terrible rappers just because that's just

1524
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 8: not my nature. There's too much talent out there. But

1525
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 8: then I heard his song called Murder feature in Creation

1526
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 8: Sean what he says murder and I believe twine from

1527
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 8: whereas my forty acres counted thirty nine times thirty nine

1528
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 8: thirty nine times. And it's not even like murder, like

1529
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 8: uh it m u R d e r. It's like

1530
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 8: m u A d A like the more dum You're

1531
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 8: like you getting murdered doing this murder, doing that murder doing. Yeah,

1532
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 8: it's very very whack and very ratchet. It was so

1533
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 8: ratchet that I gotta admit I love the song. Man,

1534
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 8: it's horrible. I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan

1535
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 8: of Ei is a rapper. But the ignorance, the ignorance

1536
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 8: is like a black hole of gravity just It's like

1537
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 8: my fucking my recognis edition end.

1538
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 2: Like I was like, I can listen to this. It

1539
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 2: was pulling me in.

1540
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,879
Speaker 8: Man, it was I felt Oh, I just felt dirty afterwards.

1541
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 8: But I tried to hate the song and I couldn't.

1542
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 2: Man, it was. It's terrible.

1543
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 8: I would not recommend it to anybody because it might

1544
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 8: happen to you what happened to me.

1545
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 2: And I was like, I need to hear this ship again. Man,

1546
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 2: would you say that song murdered your resistance to it? It?

1547
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 2: It did murder that ship, all right? I shopped me

1548
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 2: and can we go to the grocery store? Kind of late?

1549
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,959
Speaker 2: Sometimes we do a lot of late night shopping, Like maybe.

1550
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, fucking kids, I want to shop and piece kids

1551
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 10: on the bed at that time.

1552
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get in, get out. That's what I like

1553
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 2: about it. Normally, not very many lines.

1554
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 8: The only problem is, of course it's late, and I

1555
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 8: feel like everybody who works that night ship.

1556
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 2: At the grocery store probably some kind of criminal, you know,

1557
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: some kind of like that is not that. If you've ever.

1558
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 8: Seen the night crew at your local supermarket, you can

1559
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:31,839
Speaker 8: see the difference.

1560
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 2: You can see that ship.

1561
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 8: Anytime somebody offers you help to look for something, and

1562
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 8: you decline you know.

1563
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 2: What I'm saying now, because you really don't know where

1564
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 2: the fuck it is. But you're just like, I'll find

1565
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 2: this shit. I will look down the house right. Like.

1566
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: The only thing I learned is don't make eye contact

1567
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:51,560
Speaker 2: with prisoners.

1568
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 8: You know, stocking right, that shit turned the beyond scared

1569
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 8: straight at the dinner clock.

1570
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 2: Dude, I was scared of ship and the thing is

1571
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 2: too man like you would think, well, well, that's it's dangerous.

1572
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 2: Why are you going there so late? That's why we

1573
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 2: stay on.

1574
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,759
Speaker 8: That's because we stay on the white side of town,

1575
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 8: and I feel safe as long as there's a nice

1576
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 8: amount of r wps out there on the premises. Okay, yeah,

1577
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 8: as long as you get some good r wps, you

1578
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 8: walk on in, you can shop at will, you can

1579
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 8: leave a store one hundred dollars bills in your pocket.

1580
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 2: You'll be fine, but you just make sure that you

1581
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 2: keep them. Why are you looking at.

1582
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 8: Me like that?

1583
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 2: Camp?

1584
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 8: What's the r w pH white people?

1585
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want you get some? They will get robbed

1586
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 2: before we will, I promise you. Yeah, yeah, like, and

1587
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: I mean it's not my fault. They've grown on a

1588
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: racist and it and know and it's not my fault

1589
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 2: that the white ladies on the phone texting at ten

1590
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 2: o'clock at night as you going to the store.

1591
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 8: Yes, it's not my fault, man, But I noticed that ship.

1592
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 8: Now I want to ask everybody here is black. I

1593
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 8: wonder if my man, Ryan Jones, I want to hear

1594
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 8: to get ast to this. But I'm gonna ask y'all guys.

1595
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 8: I started with you first, Chris, do you ever keep

1596
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 8: track of the amount of white people around that will

1597
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 8: get ribbed before somebody makes it to you?

1598
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: I really don't. Uh, I don't.

1599
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 9: I'm usually the black guy in the situation. A lot

1600
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 9: of times when I have to do shopping, I do

1601
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 9: it on the way home from work, and uh it's

1602
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 9: it's usually in rich white neighborhood.

1603
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 8: So uh so you're saying subconsciously you've done it.

1604
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 2: I think about it. You just haven't paid attention to

1605
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 2: I've been condition I've been conditioned. I probably I haven't

1606
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 2: even thought thought about it. Man.

1607
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 5: You mean the man is programmed conditioning?

1608
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 2: Yah? Yeah, he has. Damn What about you, Moran?

1609
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 5: It's not as much of an issue here in Canada, right,

1610
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think of the times, like you know,

1611
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 5: when I lived in the US, Oh.

1612
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 2: No, I can't.

1613
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 5: It's been more of the other way, Like you know,

1614
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 5: when I was at Northwestern and you'd have to get

1615
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 5: on like Purple Line, right, Yeah, you ride the L

1616
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,799
Speaker 5: into the city, you go through the north side of Chicago,

1617
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 5: like the northernmost neighborhood Rogers Park had some black people,

1618
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 5: but then a lot of the neighborhoods in between Rogers

1619
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 5: Park and Downtown didn't have a lot of black people.

1620
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 2: And if you're on like.

1621
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 5: Late at night, and you know, they'd be like drunk,

1622
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 5: rallity white guys, you know, on the train. Then I'd

1623
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 5: be looking around the car figuring out, Okay, these six

1624
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 5: crazy white guys on the train, like who is going

1625
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 5: to help me? Which black people on this car are

1626
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 5: going to help me subdue them if they turn on me?

1627
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 5: Or am how likely am I to have to spring

1628
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 5: into action should they turn on one of the other

1629
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 5: black guys on the car like that? But I've never

1630
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 5: now the other way around, never had to count robbable

1631
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 5: white people, not yet.

1632
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 10: And you know what, And I guess I'm kind of

1633
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 10: condition like Roger, Like whenever we get out.

1634
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: I watched the white.

1635
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 8: Person sitting in the car with their car on and

1636
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 8: and all the.

1637
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 2: Doors are a lot waiting for somebody to come out

1638
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 2: the store. I look at the person in the car

1639
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 2: smoking with the car on line. Maybe that's just me.

1640
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: I like these these are.

1641
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 10: Things I'm just or they just standing out in front

1642
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 10: of the store at ten o'clock at night having a

1643
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 10: casual conversation with wine glass bottles in their hands, going

1644
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 10: to their car.

1645
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 2: They gonna attack you way for their attack me. Yeah,

1646
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 2: that's why I like I measure.

1647
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 8: And the thing is, even in that situation Morian outline,

1648
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 8: there's probably like a Jewish dude on there going harassable

1649
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 8: black person, you know, like.

1650
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 2: Whatever minority I am, they won't get to.

1651
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 8: Meet first they get they got that brother, Okay, but

1652
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 8: I was I don't know, probable white.

1653
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 2: People man our WP's man keep account. People gonna start noticing. Now.

1654
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 8: So we both have iPhones in our house. And if

1655
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 8: you have, I bet most people that have iPhones share

1656
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 8: a plan with like their wife or something that they

1657
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 8: both have phones and stuff. And I'm telling you this iPhone,

1658
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 8: the updates they made on the low, that shit's gonna

1659
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 8: get somebody caught cheat. Yes, it's gonna get somebody caught cheating,

1660
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 8: because that's his feature on there on the iCloud that

1661
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 8: they talk about what you share. You can back up

1662
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 8: your phone every night at like you know, three am.

1663
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 8: It'll go out and make a backup of all your reminders,

1664
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 8: your calendar, your you're so different settings and apps that

1665
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 8: you downloaded and stuff like that to this just you know,

1666
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 8: just this cloud in the sky and the data sky.

1667
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to use that ship, right,

1668
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 2: most people don't. Okay, you know you just what do

1669
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 2: you say? Agree? Agree, agree, and then you say where

1670
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 2: can I use Where can I use my phone? Yes,

1671
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 2: that's right. Nobody reads that ship. So most people have

1672
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 2: you know, are setting this ship up and don't even

1673
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 2: know it.

1674
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 8: Well, the other day, I got a alert on my

1675
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 8: phone for Karen's doctor's appointment.

1676
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like why, I'm like, why do I have?

1677
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 2: It says doctor? It didn't say Karen's doctors appointed doctor appointment.

1678
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 2: I'm like yes.

1679
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 8: For a second, I'm just like with the like, I

1680
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 8: don't I'm not going to the doctor. And I'm like, oh,

1681
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,520
Speaker 8: that's right, Karen's going to the doctor told me already.

1682
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 8: But the thing is like how many people use their

1683
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 8: phone and keep criving ship in there that they don't

1684
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 8: want their make up almas cut and they they late

1685
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 8: that their their lunch date with Susan Pops and thereby like, oh,

1686
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 8: like one of those articles gonna start coming in of

1687
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 8: the whole like got caught cheating because maybe your your

1688
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 8: jump offs birthday is in there, not something necessarily like

1689
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 8: blatantly like I will be sucking at three o'clock, but

1690
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 8: just like you know, like uh, Sharon's birthday or some

1691
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 8: some friends kid's birthday, Like it's.

1692
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 2: Just gonna be that. Why like why is that in there?

1693
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 5: What we're gonna say, Mark honestly in the digital as

1694
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 5: the only person I can see getting caught up like

1695
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 5: that is and because he's been caught up like that,

1696
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 5: and he's the only person being caught up like that

1697
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 5: is Tiger Woods where he had one cell phone and

1698
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 5: you call his girl paying because his wife went through

1699
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 5: his cell phone. Because if you're gonna, if that's what

1700
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 5: you do, then you have more than one cell phone,

1701
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 5: or you should you go through like any sports locker room,

1702
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 5: right and you look at what.

1703
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 2: The players have.

1704
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 5: Every player has at least two blackberries, at least two

1705
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 5: cell phones for just that reason. Right, it's one for

1706
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 5: like your wife or your actual girlfriend and like your family.

1707
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 2: Members, and another one for the stakes.

1708
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 5: So if you get caught via the iCloud, then you

1709
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 5: deserve to get caught, because if you're really gonna play

1710
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 5: around like that.

1711
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: Then get a second phone. Damn it.

1712
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 8: See, I think whenever there's new technology, it takes a

1713
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 8: while to get used to it.

1714
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: Like I don't like because I like, I knew.

1715
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 8: A dude that had a phone where he could have

1716
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 8: a separate compartment and memory simply for his jumper hofs, which.

1717
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 2: Wow, I was amazed by, but I'm.

1718
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 8: Sure it took him a minute to figure out, like

1719
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 8: how am I gonna do this? Because even having two

1720
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 8: phones for do day, the athlete is already like this

1721
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 8: is your work phone. Yeah, I mean, you know, even

1722
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 8: just saying like you could come up with excuse, but

1723
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 8: you got The point is now you have to have

1724
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 8: an excuse for a reason as opposed to having one phone.

1725
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 8: And I just wonder how many one phone pimps was

1726
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 8: out there handling. And it was good into the updates

1727
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 8: and then the I cloud popped up and was like, Hey,

1728
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 8: who the fuck is sharing?

1729
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That's what I wondered, man,

1730
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 2: what you think about it? Man, that's the new opt

1731
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 2: and make it so bad. I didn't even know you

1732
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 2: know what?

1733
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 8: And now he says that Roger has in the phone

1734
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 8: Rent and and all of a sudden.

1735
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm getting like, I think one time my phone he

1736
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 2: went up.

1737
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 8: At the same time, Yeah, I understand.

1738
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 2: What did this come from? Right that?

1739
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 5: You getting mad? Like Rod, Who the hell is Rent?

1740
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 5: Who is this shick? Why are you paying her every much?

1741
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 2: Well?

1742
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 8: She doesn't know that Rinck stands for rent Tavia Jenkins,

1743
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 8: the chick that I'm seeing.

1744
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 2: I gotta take a birthday off the phone. Now be

1745
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 2: a Google the named Ren Tavia.

1746
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 8: I bet you if something comes up, why wouldn't it.

1747
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 8: I'd be more surprised you said I didn't think anything

1748
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 8: would come up.

1749
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 2: I'd be like, damn for real, Games Love Joe High School,

1750
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 2: Halt in Georgia. Hope you're listening.

1751
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 8: Damn my man, I've been playing Arkham City, yes, and

1752
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 8: I love this day. I get to be Batman fighting

1753
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 8: all the criminals. It's like they created their own criminal

1754
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 8: Hamsterdam and fucking got them.

1755
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 2: And now all the criminals in the world are trapped in.

1756
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 8: About a sixth block radius and I get to go

1757
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 8: fight them all. And now you know, I've been playing

1758
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 8: they trying to complete in the stuff. And the story

1759
01:21:55,120 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 8: to the game is basically the government of got them

1760
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 8: City saying, look, man, we got a whole lot of

1761
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 8: supercriminals in a very small area, which is you know,

1762
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 8: you would think they would get it, they would be

1763
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 8: hipped to right away, but it took them a while,

1764
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 8: and they said, look, we e even lock these motherfuckers

1765
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 8: up somewhere. We tried to put them in Arkham Prison.

1766
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 8: They broke out of that shit. All hell broke loose.

1767
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,799
Speaker 8: We need to put these dudes in their own section

1768
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 8: of the city, just like the hamsterdamn thing in a while,

1769
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 8: where it's like, just have a drug selling zone, you know,

1770
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 8: so they have a crime zone. Like, let these motherfuckers

1771
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 8: fight each other and they over the controller the city.

1772
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 8: We'll put somebody in charge that's got guns and shit

1773
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 8: and helicopters and all that shit trained on them all

1774
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 8: day and surveillance twenty four to seven, so we'll make

1775
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 8: sure that somebody's watching these guys.

1776
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 2: And the thing is, if you really think about it,

1777
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 2: that solves Batman's problem.

1778
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 8: Now I'm not saying that Batman should be cool with it,

1779
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 8: but technically the crime is gone from Godham.

1780
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 2: City for that one area. Yeah, like go beat up

1781
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 2: a couple of muggers, you know, and chill lines. Yes.

1782
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 2: But what does Batman do? He says, fuck that, son.

1783
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 8: I feel like Arkham City is corrupt and I need

1784
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 8: to get in there and figure out why is corrupt.

1785
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 8: He doesn't even know why is corrupt. He doesn't even

1786
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 8: the only thing he knows.

1787
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 2: He has a feeling that is corrupt. Commissioner Gordon tells him.

1788
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 8: I made a petition to say you can't build this

1789
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 8: thing this prison here, and it was. It was basically

1790
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 8: thrown out of court. And he goes to Batman. After

1791
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 8: this shit's been thrown out of court. And you can

1792
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 8: find this out by reading the backstory. It's all in

1793
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 8: the game, and most people don't like reading, so this

1794
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 8: is probably new to most people that even played the game,

1795
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 8: but Batman, he said. Gordon goes to Batman and says, look, man,

1796
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 8: I just feel like something's up. My shit didn't get.

1797
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 2: Hurt in court.

1798
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,560
Speaker 8: So it's gotta be something which is really really notissistic

1799
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 8: of Commissioner Gordon.

1800
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:04,799
Speaker 2: Like you couldn't have gotten your case thrown out.

1801
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 8: On the marriage of just everybody feels like these fucking

1802
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 8: criminals need to be locked.

1803
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 2: Up in one area. Yeah, really that's unreasonable that everyone

1804
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 2: could have been like, yeah, you know what, keep the

1805
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 2: criminals away from me?

1806
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, I like the city without the joker, you know, yeah,

1807
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 8: without the threat of Solomon Grendia or whatever the fuck. Right,

1808
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 8: So Batman organizes as a plan where I'm gonna be

1809
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 8: you know, as Bruce Wayne, I'm gonna campaign against this thing,

1810
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 8: the loan dude, fighting against this thing by myself.

1811
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,440
Speaker 2: He has thrown in jail and thrown into Arkham City.

1812
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 8: Where he's free to be Batman, right, So it's like

1813
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 8: a Batman or gi of violence. Like now he's living

1814
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 8: out all of his fantasies of beating up criminals.

1815
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 2: Twenty four to seven. It is Batman Heaven. There isn't

1816
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 2: a civilian in here, you know what I mean.

1817
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 8: Like the only civilians in here are people that you know,

1818
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 8: wondered in because they were supposed to be doing something else. Doctors, right,

1819
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 8: like there's no like God walking down the street getting

1820
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 8: mug There's none of that.

1821
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: So so here's the thing.

1822
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 8: People always go, Well, the villains that he's fighting are insane,

1823
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,879
Speaker 8: and the Joker's crazy, two.

1824
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: Faces crazy, they got all these problems.

1825
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 8: Has anyone ever stopped to wonder if Batman is an addict? Yes,

1826
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 8: like this dude had a trauma traumatizing childhood. His parents

1827
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 8: were killed in front of him as a kid, leaving them.

1828
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 8: Dresses up as a bat. Yeah, he now dresses up

1829
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 8: as a bat and I feel like he self medicates.

1830
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 2: By beating up criminals. Of course, that's how he feels better.

1831
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 2: Criminals are his medicine. Yes, well, I'm not confused.

1832
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 5: Batman went to jail for the like as part of

1833
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:47,719
Speaker 5: the setup to this video game.

1834
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 2: What happened was he as Bruce Wayne.

1835
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,759
Speaker 8: Yes, he campaigned against Arkham City just prison this detention

1836
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 8: center so much that basically the people over it to

1837
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 8: touch him up, had to throw him, take up some

1838
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 8: charges and throw him in jail, right, And he knew

1839
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 8: this would happen, of course, because he's Batman. He knows everything.

1840
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 8: I could anywhere question his right. But he gets thrown

1841
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 8: in jail and then of course Alfred drops off of

1842
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 8: the batsuit.

1843
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 5: That's what I was gonna ask, how do he get

1844
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 5: the Batman uniform if he was in jail?

1845
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 2: Should he not have a jumpsuit? First of all, this

1846
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 2: motherfuck and this isn't a spoiler.

1847
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 8: This motherfucker beats up, ping, whining all his benchmen in

1848
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 8: like the opening credits of the fucking movie as Bruce Wayne.

1849
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 8: I mean of the game as Bruce Wayne, and nobody

1850
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 8: nobody goes, I think that's Batman. Nobody nobody goes riggs

1851
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 8: boiled dude comes in here and beats us up and disappears,

1852
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 8: and suddenly Batman is everywhere, and no one goes.

1853
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: Huh god. And then the dude that thinks he's Batman,

1854
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 2: is that shure he's Batman?

1855
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 8: And yeah, yeah, Well I don't want to get one

1856
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 8: too many spoilers, care if people ain't finished the game.

1857
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, there's the whole thing.

1858
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 8: About Bruce Wayne and beating up people and fucking flying

1859
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 8: off and disappearing for the rest of the time in

1860
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 8: Argas City.

1861
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 10: Nobody's cut this, and and I guess, and not to

1862
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 10: get off topic, I don't never play these games.

1863
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 8: I always watch Roger play the games, and I just

1864
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 8: sit in the background and watch the storyline.

1865
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 10: Go along, Like I played the game. And what's so

1866
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 10: cool about this game? It is so lifelike and so realistic.

1867
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 10: Rogerick was doing something and Batman was standing there. He

1868
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 10: was like turning to the left, turning to the right.

1869
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 10: His suit was all scratched up. You can see the

1870
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 10: water fall off. It is a beautiful game. It is

1871
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 10: beautiful realistic. Probably the wrong word to describe that, but

1872
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 10: I know y'all know what she means. Okay, obviously.

1873
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 8: As a nigga, the bat costumes flying around, don't be

1874
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 8: like realizing.

1875
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: It looks good.

1876
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 8: Yes, Dudes that complain about women who wear certain clothing

1877
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 8: that fools.

1878
01:27:55,720 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 2: Them, what do you mean, like like this happens routine.

1879
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 2: You're like, you have a guy that goes man, she

1880
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 2: look a look at them jeans. Man, she don't really

1881
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 2: look like that. It's just them jeans or look at that.

1882
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 8: You know, I'm tired of these women, these push up brons.

1883
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 8: You're trigging me, You're fooling me. I think you got

1884
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 8: big old teddy that you don't right.

1885
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 2: Hey man, y'all got to shut the fuck up man

1886
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 2: on some real ship.

1887
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 8: You can't fuck them all for one right, Number one

1888
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,799
Speaker 8: that not even these ships don't even think about fucking you.

1889
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 2: Two, you can't fuck all the chicks in the world.

1890
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 8: Three, I don't think that somebody trying to fool you

1891
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 8: by looking better is a bad thing. Like I don't

1892
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 8: know who these people that just need to constantly have

1893
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 8: all this honesty around them. But I don't mind the

1894
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 8: chick wearing black because it's slimming, or wearing tights to

1895
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 8: the gym because she got it's a little loose back

1896
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 8: there and she's trying to go to the gym and

1897
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 8: tighten it up.

1898
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 2: Like that. Ship doesn't bother me at all.

1899
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 10: If men do things to come up ship too, they

1900
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 10: might it might be as it's maybe less subtle than women.

1901
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 2: But it's way less subtle. It's like yeah, like Steve

1902
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: Harvey's black hair.

1903
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 5: Right, or like yeah, or like I saw you driving

1904
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 5: that Lectus and I thought you were cool, but actually

1905
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:16,799
Speaker 5: your lane right.

1906
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 2: Personality we exactly.

1907
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 8: And I also feel the same way about chicks that

1908
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 8: are like, well, why'd you uh you know, wear these uh,

1909
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 8: I mean.

1910
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 2: Why'd you drive this type of car? If you ain't balling, Like,

1911
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 2: what the fuck? Why do you care? Don't fuck that one?

1912
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 2: Think another jude, like it really is really funny.

1913
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 8: Like I don't hear that shit on podcasts from time

1914
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 8: to time and different, you know, just common conversations at

1915
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 8: the gym or something like, Man, she she's looking like

1916
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 8: that now, but let her put on some I'm.

1917
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: Like, what is this matter? We're looking at her now? Right?

1918
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 2: I didn't realize we married this lady. I just thought

1919
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 2: she looked nice and that Wait, dude, really talk like

1920
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 2: that about women? Yes, because I know women talk like

1921
01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 2: that about each other. Yeah, if you're a dude, like

1922
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 2: what this it matter? If you're not married to her?

1923
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 10: You know the worst place of this Twitter. Yes, that's

1924
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 10: what I see on Twitter all the time. And I

1925
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 10: ain't even gonna lie. If I've had people, it ain't

1926
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 10: got so bad. I just followed him. It was men ship,

1927
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 10: Women ain't ship.

1928
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 2: Ain't ship. Bitches ain't ship. Get the fuck off my timeline. Yes,

1929
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 2: you know somebody didn't text them back the night.

1930
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 8: Before they Yeah, I gotta go through your relationship problems

1931
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 8: with Yes.

1932
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 10: While I'm trying, while I'm trying to see the sports tweets.

1933
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 2: Get off my time? All right? Man?

1934
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 8: We got articles that was all my random thoughts. But

1935
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 8: we got some articles here that I would like to cover.

1936
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 8: I think you might hear I'm gonna send this article

1937
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 8: to to to Morgan, but y'all might end up hearing

1938
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 8: this beat. We're gonna find out no beef?

1939
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 2: All right? I haven't seen that, ye man? Oh well

1940
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 2: maybe that's why not.

1941
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 8: I just sitting in the chat I got scrolled up.

1942
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 2: Let me see, let me scrow down there we go?

1943
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 2: All right? This is this? This article is in the

1944
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 2: Cleveland Leader. Whoa and I am?

1945
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 8: A woman allegedly burns down a friend's house over a

1946
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:11,560
Speaker 8: Facebook dispute.

1947
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 2: Y'all taking Facebook? Two serious? A dog? Why would you

1948
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 2: say that? Kid? Because I fail to go on Facebook.

1949
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,719
Speaker 2: I do Twitter? Oh? Was he right? If it was Twitter?

1950
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 2: I would have to burn their house down.

1951
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 10: It's not even that I think people take. It's a

1952
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 10: difference between your social media life and your real life.

1953
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 2: I separate it to a lot of people mass that

1954
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 2: ship up? Well is it now?

1955
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 8: I do feel like to some extent because it gets

1956
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 8: downplayed all the time people are themselves on these social

1957
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:47,719
Speaker 8: media outlets. I would say, most most people are caring,

1958
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 8: even you. You are yourself. I mean I live here

1959
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 8: and I see your tweets. Yes, I know you're not

1960
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 8: over there making up ship.

1961
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 2: You know.

1962
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 8: I just popped off with G four bitch, I made it. No,

1963
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 8: you know, like you're keeping pretty real what I think?

1964
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 8: So I don't think that the answer is separating yourself

1965
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 8: from your Facebook.

1966
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 2: I think this person's a dick in real life too. Well. Yeah,

1967
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 2: like I wouldn't want to be her real friend or

1968
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 2: her effected with prem So the asshole in real life

1969
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 2: just rolled over. It just rolls over. It just rolls

1970
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 2: over my belief.

1971
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 8: The defriending of individuals on Facebook can sometimes go unnoticed,

1972
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,639
Speaker 8: but other times it may cause hurt feelings or even anger.

1973
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 8: In the case of Jennifer Christine Harris, is set off

1974
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 8: a firestorm of events. The native of Des Moines, Iowa,

1975
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 8: was arrested for having allegedly set fire to the home

1976
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 8: of Nicki Rasmussen as an old friend while Nicki and

1977
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 8: her husband Jim were sleeping. Word yes, so she's that's

1978
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 8: like arson and manslaughter if you killed them.

1979
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 2: And the thing about this, I don't even know. Some

1980
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 2: people are free me I don't care.

1981
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, apparently this Jennifer Christine Harris does a lot.

1982
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 8: Jim immediately suspected Jennifer han't caused a fire, as she

1983
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 8: and his wife had been having an ongoing dispute that

1984
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:08,759
Speaker 8: had been played out playing out on Facebook.

1985
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 2: Now there's a thing.

1986
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 8: I don't have anybody in my circle of friends that

1987
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 8: if my house caught on fire, I would immediately go.

1988
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:22,680
Speaker 2: Morgan, I know you did it. He's in Canada. I

1989
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 2: don't know with anyone like that.

1990
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 10: Dude, we cannot If I suspect you, we cannot be cool.

1991
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 8: According to a police report, when police asked Rasmussen about Harrs,

1992
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 8: she said the two are no longer friends due to

1993
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 8: a dispute over Facebook.

1994
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 2: According to Nikki, Jen is angry with her.

1995
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 8: Because she ended their friendship on Facebook.

1996
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,520
Speaker 2: What are you twelve? Oh my god?

1997
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 8: Apparently Jen asked Nikki to create a Facebook an event

1998
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 8: for a party, which Nikki did, but as.

1999
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 2: The date of the party got nearer, there were.

2000
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 8: A lot of dclines, so it was looking like the

2001
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 8: party might be a bit of a failure. The disagreement

2002
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 8: between the two grew when the garage went up in flames,

2003
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 8: Harris said the first person. Uh that Harris was the

2004
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 8: first person that rass the ras new sentence. Both of them,

2005
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 8: the husband and the wife, could finger. The couple fortunately

2006
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 8: survived the ordeal scathed. That Harris is currently being held

2007
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 8: at Polk out of jail one hundred thousand dollars bond.

2008
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,600
Speaker 2: Wow, and that's why you have to have proper Internecticut,

2009
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 2: Yes you do. You know, you gotta know how to

2010
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:24,759
Speaker 2: talk to people.

2011
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 8: Man, don't go on people on Facebook pages trying to

2012
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 8: argue with their aunts and shit.

2013
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 2: And not only that, this is why.

2014
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 10: Uh, if I knew you in high school and you

2015
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 10: tried to free me, I don't friend you.

2016
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:39,680
Speaker 2: She she was a old friend. Noah, we ain't talk.

2017
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 2: We're gonna stay not talking.

2018
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, well I wouldn't definitely wouldn't throw a party with

2019
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 8: this lady, of course not so here's a sports lady.

2020
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,639
Speaker 5: What's just amazed at how poorly written this article is?

2021
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 5: And yes, clevelander dot com.

2022
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 2: Cleveland Greater Cleveland's premier independent news source.

2023
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 5: If you say so, what it looks like to me

2024
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 5: a bunch of people that put a website together that

2025
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 5: clearly have no practice in training in writing is kind

2026
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 5: of alarming, Like they spelled the moin wrongs.

2027
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 2: The moin is not that hard to spell. There's essays

2028
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 2: on the end of each word. This is bad.

2029
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 5: This is bad, like the way and listeners understand, this

2030
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,879
Speaker 5: is not the way this was. Rod was reading this verbatim.

2031
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 5: He was not para crazy.

2032
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I was trying to clean it up. And

2033
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 2: so they were like.

2034
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 5: Apparently as apparently as Nikki either here on Facebook. No,

2035
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 5: that's how it was written, folks, that out written.

2036
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 2: And it says the whole staff wrote it. Yes, I've

2037
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 2: got together. That means no one wanted to take credit for.

2038
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 5: That happens sometimes too, where you're like, take Eyeline off

2039
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 5: this stuff.

2040
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 2: It's not saying produced by Sony. I don't know.

2041
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 8: We didn't make Spider Man three, all right, So this

2042
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 8: is I guess this is a small controversy.

2043
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 2: I haven't heard much about it, but apparently.

2044
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 8: The former caddy of Tiger Woods said.

2045
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 2: Something that people are calling racist.

2046
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 8: Okay, and you know, Stevie Williams has been jumping Froggy

2047
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 8: for quite some time, you.

2048
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 2: Know, ever since he yeah, ever since he got to

2049
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 2: let go.

2050
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 8: That motherfucker has been upset despite the fact that Tiger

2051
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 8: Woods basically made this motherfucker he is. He's like, fuck

2052
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 8: that ship, I should still be working for you.

2053
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 2: Fine, whatever, So apparently I'll just read the article already.

2054
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,839
Speaker 2: One of the most festive evenings in golf the annual

2055
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 2: Caddies Award.

2056
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:48,679
Speaker 8: Roast Caddies Awards. Caddies have awards. Now, caddies have awards.

2057
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 8: The awards are in Shanghai, China.

2058
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 5: So these people who would imagine mostly lived like in

2059
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 5: North America and maybe in Europe, all went all the

2060
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 5: way over to China.

2061
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 2: And not only do they have for sure, not only

2062
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:05,799
Speaker 2: do they have awards. It's a roast. It's a roast.

2063
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 12: Like these motherfuckers all like being like comedians and ship

2064
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 12: they roasting each other. But yeah, so the Caddies Award roast,

2065
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 12: which I don't know how you measure anyone's ability.

2066
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 2: To caddy unless you're just looking at who they're golfing. Yeah,

2067
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 2: who wins? Yeahs be real good. That's that's that's the

2068
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 2: Roger Mayweather series.

2069
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 9: Right.

2070
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm the best trainer in the world because look

2071
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 5: who I trained. Yeah, don't look at that, Look look

2072
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 5: who I train. I thank you, thank you.

2073
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm the best in the world ever heard of him?

2074
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 2: Do they go well?

2075
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 10: Instead of pulling out that nine arm, he pulled down

2076
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 10: the twelve.

2077
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 2: Y Yeah, I can't, I can't. He used the flyt

2078
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 2: iron versus.

2079
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:55,560
Speaker 8: The foreign So what one award was called the Celebration

2080
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 8: of the Year, and everyone knew who would get it

2081
01:37:58,880 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 8: and why.

2082
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 2: The surprise was how Stevie Williams ripped into his old

2083
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:04,440
Speaker 2: boss with a racial.

2084
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 8: Slur that caused even more commotion involving the jilted caddy

2085
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 8: and golf's biggest name. He's a character within the game

2086
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 8: of golf, and whatever bitterness that exists between him and

2087
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 8: Tiger should be in the past by now, says some

2088
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 8: dude whose first name I came pronounced Graham Gray McDowell,

2089
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 8: one of several players at the party. Is unfortunate that

2090
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 8: it's going to ridge Head again. Yes, Williams still mad.

2091
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 8: He got that he got fired by Woods this summer

2092
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 8: was working for Adam Scott when he won the bridge

2093
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 8: Stone Invitational.

2094
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 2: Everybody remembers this clip and he basically acted like that

2095
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 2: motherfucker guy. He acted like his baby was going at

2096
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 2: the same time that he got married and found out

2097
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 2: he hit the lottery.

2098
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 8: Like that dude, Like, honestly, I felt like he knocked

2099
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 8: in that last put, not Adam Scott.

2100
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 2: It's like Stevie Williams one.

2101
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 8: Huh oh, I'm sorry Adam Scott. The tournament was also

2102
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,759
Speaker 8: the first time that Woods played since splitting with the caddy,

2103
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:10,640
Speaker 8: and emotionally charged Williams gave a TV interview on the

2104
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 8: eighteenth green and called it the best win of my life,

2105
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 8: even though he had been on the bag for thirteen

2106
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:21,679
Speaker 8: majors with Woods, including that one where he hugs Tiger

2107
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 8: Woods at the Tiger One when at his dad died.

2108
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:26,640
Speaker 8: But you know, fuck that nigga, he fired me.

2109
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 9: Anyway, hold on, hold on, I think wait, hold on now,

2110
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 9: because I bet you Chri's gonna say the same thing

2111
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 9: I'm going to say. Well, what I'll say is I

2112
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 9: think winning a tournament for a third tier tire company

2113
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 9: it's a lot better than of winning a major tournament

2114
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:49,679
Speaker 9: where the player's dad died.

2115
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 2: You know, So.

2116
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 5: I was gonna say the other thing, and emotionally charged

2117
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 5: Williams gave a TV interview on the eighteenth green and

2118
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 5: called it the best win of my life, even though

2119
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 5: now after that, after even though it should not be sent, not.

2120
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 2: Read, even though he had been on the back with

2121
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:04,919
Speaker 2: thirteen majors with woods.

2122
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 5: It's to say, even though he does not even play

2123
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 5: golf and he himself is not one a damn thing.

2124
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 8: Ever, even though he did not hit a ball, even

2125
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 8: though wouldn't nobody know who to hit?

2126
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 2: Was what a caddy did? Yeah, so in real life

2127
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 2: he plays from the women's teeth, like even though his

2128
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 2: kids are eating because of Tiger. Yeah, I guess, I guess.

2129
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 2: I guess. Williams though he's like that slave like that,

2130
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 2: are we sick? Boss? So he's like, yeah, he's he's

2131
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 2: a turner of caddies.

2132
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,560
Speaker 8: So on Friday night, the host called Williams to the

2133
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 8: stage to collect his award and asked him to explain

2134
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 8: his enthusiasm.

2135
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 2: Williams, with a smirk on his face, leaned toward.

2136
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 8: The microphone and said, it was my aim to shove

2137
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 8: it right up that black A and then dot dot

2138
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 8: dot dot that period. So a what, Karen, asshole, that's

2139
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 8: what it looks like to me. That's how many dashes

2140
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:16,639
Speaker 8: it is. Yeah, I was trying to count. It works out,

2141
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 8: the asshole, if you feel it. I played enough, man,

2142
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 8: enough man to know this one. But yeah, so here's

2143
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 8: the thing, though, I don't know that that in itself is.

2144
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 2: A racial slur.

2145
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 8: Like now, obviously it's inappropriate as fuck, yes, and it's

2146
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:39,640
Speaker 8: clearly beyond the pail for golf, which is supposed to

2147
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 8: be golf, but in the context of a roast, depending

2148
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 8: on what sort of jokes were being made, I don't.

2149
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 2: Know that that races. It was funny because he called

2150
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:50,639
Speaker 2: it a.

2151
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 5: Racial slur, although all he did was called Tiger black. Now,

2152
01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 5: the word black is not a racial slur unless your caplination,

2153
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 5: in which case it is an insult to be called black.

2154
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:05,599
Speaker 2: So I guess in that context it's the racial slur.

2155
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:08,800
Speaker 5: But like to what it was was was offensive because

2156
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 5: he talked about shoving something up Tiger's ass. But I

2157
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 5: guess the racist thing here is the fact that he

2158
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:16,840
Speaker 5: reminded this Capitlin vision that he's black, which is what

2159
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 5: Tiger A.

2160
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 2: Tiger doesn't like that ship unless he's trying to bed

2161
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,719
Speaker 2: a couple of white waves exactly. Then he'll bring.

2162
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 5: Having a black dick that is different. There's no tails

2163
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 5: in it for Tiger. Don't be reminding him of these

2164
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 5: black girl like yes.

2165
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Speaker 8: Nope, on a night field with badter and all colored remarks.

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01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 8: This one was a show stopper, which means that this

2167
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 8: roast was lame of that was the hottest joker to night.

2168
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 10: I told you may I know about nine eyes and

2169
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 10: bags and my man o.

2170
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 2: Yours man out of pleasant type of it's boring as ship.

2171
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to go to this.

2172
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 9: But remember Paul, when you told Steve Stricker to use

2173
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 9: an eight iron out of that fan trap and.

2174
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 2: He used the driver.

2175
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:11,720
Speaker 5: Like, you guys are like two big steps removed from

2176
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 5: the field of like expertise.

2177
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:14,639
Speaker 2: So like if these guys all went out.

2178
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 5: And played golf, I wouldn't expect it to be professional caliber,

2179
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,719
Speaker 5: even though they know something about golf because they're around golfers.

2180
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 2: Now.

2181
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 5: To expect these guys to be like comedians and deliver

2182
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 5: comedian level comedy at a roast, right, you know? This

2183
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 5: is like when the Republican says something racist, like why

2184
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 5: are you surprised?

2185
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?

2186
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:35,600
Speaker 8: Like I said, I wouldn't read the rest of this,

2187
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:38,679
Speaker 8: but it's actually kind of long for an article about

2188
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,679
Speaker 8: it is very long. Somebody's saying an offhand remark about

2189
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 8: Tiger Woods like you managed to.

2190
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 2: Get a lot out of this ship hand Fox Sports. Anyway,

2191
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that shit hain't even they had that

2192
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 2: they had at least have two hundred and fifty words.

2193
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 8: Well, here's some breaking news that people, if they listen

2194
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 8: to the show tomorrow may be surprised to hear because

2195
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 8: I hadn't heard about this today, or maybe I'm just late,

2196
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 8: But apparently and arrest warrant has been issued for Terrell Owens.

2197
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, he failed to show up at for a

2198
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,560
Speaker 8: court day regarding child support payments.

2199
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 2: Diana Beyoncini for my Italians out there, what's up?

2200
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 8: A spokeswoman for Owens said that Saturday, the free agent

2201
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,639
Speaker 8: wide receiver tried to reschedule in October twenty fourth hearing

2202
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:27,879
Speaker 8: in Contra Costa County Court, what up to my season?

2203
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 2: My consonants, because he.

2204
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 8: Had set up a televised workout in hopes of hooking

2205
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 8: up with the NFL club. No teens intended to work out,

2206
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 8: so you know, the judge why said shit? Was like,

2207
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 8: you could have been at court, Yes, you know you wanted.

2208
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 8: Why'd you miss court for this? No one's here, ah,

2209
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 8: but it's kind of fucked up though people keep saying

2210
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 8: that whole like the slimder to like nobody show it up.

2211
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:54,599
Speaker 8: No teens cared, but there were cameras there. Yeah, people care.

2212
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 9: I think they just wasn't trying to be too thirsty.

2213
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:00,479
Speaker 2: Right right, like people don't want to pla the hand

2214
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 2: or whatever.

2215
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 8: But even still somebody cares because them fucking cameras is there.

2216
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 2: And that's really what it's about.

2217
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:12,480
Speaker 8: According to beyonceeny, Oways was looking for a new attorney

2218
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 8: and was representing himself represent while trying to change the

2219
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:19,639
Speaker 8: court date. She said that his new attorneys will deal

2220
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 8: with the warrant issue this week. And that's what I

2221
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,720
Speaker 8: like about being rich, you know, like rich people get

2222
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 8: to say shit like my attorney.

2223
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:29,600
Speaker 10: And if I warrant pulpy be like they coming to

2224
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 10: get your ass. Nigga, now you can do me.

2225
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 2: I'm just calling the cops, Like where do I turn

2226
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 2: myself in? You been? I don't want no problems.

2227
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 5: Why was Terrell Owens representing himself? That's a beautiful I

2228
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 5: can't figure out.

2229
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 2: Like I can't.

2230
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 5: I'm not surprised that Terrell Owens had no success in

2231
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 5: changing this court date if he was representing himself.

2232
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the rumor is he doesn't have money.

2233
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 8: That's what's been going around, you know, according to his

2234
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 8: reality show stuff. So he got swimdled out of his

2235
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 8: own money and stuff. So yeah, could be that man,

2236
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 8: that that's.

2237
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 2: That's some real ship. That that's this is some pretty

2238
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 2: real ship. Man. But it's a bad look, you know,

2239
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 2: it's a bad look for Drew Rosenhouse. Yes, yes, yes,

2240
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 2: and which mcconne fired him? Who what's you coming from?

2241
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 2: The Eagles? Michael Vigg, Michael McCoy, Oh oh really, McCoy

2242
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 2: fired Drew rose House. Oh you don't know why. I care. No,

2243
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 2: it didn't say why. Well said why, but I didn't

2244
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 2: read that far into that's a bad look, It's all

2245
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

2246
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 8: Drew rose aue should have said some dudes over there

2247
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 8: to rep for t O take care of that dude,

2248
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 8: because that's what you gotta do.

2249
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 2: When you got a messy ass agent like t O, man,

2250
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 2: I mean player like t O. All right, speaking to

2251
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 2: messy players. Michael Jordan's the NBA lockout's biggest pickle.

2252
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 8: Michael Jordan's reportedly leading a charge from hard line owners

2253
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 8: seeking the NBA lockout deal offering players no more than

2254
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:07,600
Speaker 8: fifty percent of revenue. Players received fifty seven percent in

2255
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 8: the last deal and have offered to move down as

2256
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 8: far as fifty two percent. It's quite a situation given

2257
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 8: that Michael Jordan was once an NBA player. In fact,

2258
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 8: as a player, he was represented by one of the fiercest.

2259
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 2: Player advocates in memory and David Falk.

2260
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 8: As such, mj was at the forefront of several labor

2261
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:26,839
Speaker 8: bottom battles.

2262
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 2: He said things, they were quoted, they made news for

2263
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:32,400
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan was an important man.

2264
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 8: These are some of the those dudes items from Michael Jordan,

2265
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 8: NBA player.

2266
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 2: Everyone. And then here's the thing I saw.

2267
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 8: I heard about some of this, Like one of them

2268
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 8: was Grant Long, who nobody remembers.

2269
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:51,280
Speaker 2: Grant Long, who was like I guess ahead of like

2270
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 2: Players Union or something.

2271
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 8: At one point he got an overnight Express package which

2272
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 8: was Michael Jordan, Patrick Ewing and Reggie Miller on a

2273
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 8: v v H a VHS tape basically saying like, look, man,

2274
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:10,720
Speaker 8: we gotta decertify this ship. We gotta you know, we

2275
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:14,599
Speaker 8: gotta play hardball. You know, they fucking with our money, son,

2276
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 8: Let's get it and now people are using those words

2277
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 8: against him because now he's on the other side of

2278
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 8: they was an owner and he's you know, actively campaigning

2279
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 8: against the player's best interest because he's like.

2280
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:29,560
Speaker 2: Look, I'm an owner now and I'm out for the

2281
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 2: owner's best team, and they're like, fuck you, we want

2282
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 2: money to say you wanted money. Now.

2283
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 13: Here's the thing, though, I don't see how this makes

2284
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 13: Michael Jordan's any type of asshole.

2285
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 8: Now. He already was an asshole and people already don't

2286
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 8: like him because of that, which is fine.

2287
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 2: We just didn't know it until pretty much now like recently. Yeah,

2288
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 2: well I think the Hall of Fame speech is a

2289
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 2: definite come out. Yeah, yeah, that's wrong enough. We know,

2290
01:48:57,240 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 2: we know how it gets down now.

2291
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:00,639
Speaker 5: I think we always knew Michael was a of a jerk,

2292
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 5: even like that first championship they want and there was

2293
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 5: a book that came out came out after the Jordan

2294
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:10,400
Speaker 5: rules to talk about what what an asshole he was

2295
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:12,640
Speaker 5: like to the point where he wouldn't call him. I

2296
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 5: remember will Ford dou Yes, So like if Wilfredue would

2297
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 5: set a screen on him in practice, he would just

2298
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 5: walk over and punch him in the face.

2299
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 2: And they don't do me like that, And then.

2300
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 5: He would uh because Wilfred went to Vanderbilt, So Jordan

2301
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 5: started calling him will Vanderbilt because he's like, you don't

2302
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 5: deserve to be named after a Big ten school like

2303
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 5: Michael John. And then every time there's more evidence than

2304
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:37,480
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan is a jerk, we want to act surprised

2305
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 5: that Michael Jordan is a jerk. I'm like, you don't

2306
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:42,479
Speaker 5: remember the last time we learned that Michael Jordan's a jerk?

2307
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 2: What do you think changed between then and now? Right?

2308
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:47,759
Speaker 8: And I feel like we've gotten to the point now

2309
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 8: where people are disastrobating with Michael George, like we know this,

2310
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:54,719
Speaker 8: Like I can't be shocked, Like I saw so many

2311
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 8: Twitter fees that were dedicated to fuck Michael Jordan on Friday,

2312
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 8: And of course there's no were a bad reason to

2313
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:04,760
Speaker 8: be doing fuck Michael Jordan jokes, honestly, you know, and

2314
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 8: I'm always game for a.

2315
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:09,440
Speaker 14: Good time, but I was like, why y'all actually surprised

2316
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 14: that he on a team that ninety percent of people

2317
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 14: who would talk bad about the NBA, and probably a

2318
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 14: lot of people who are for the NBA would agree

2319
01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:22,760
Speaker 14: that Charlotte is one of those teams that they could

2320
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 14: do without.

2321
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 2: And if they came down to, you know, the league.

2322
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 8: Making some going smaller, restricting the amount of teams, they

2323
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 8: would be on the short list of teams that hey,

2324
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 8: get rid of this team.

2325
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 2: Yes, they would.

2326
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,320
Speaker 8: So why are you so surprised that he's fighting too

2327
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 8: than now to make a profit.

2328
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,560
Speaker 2: I just don't get it.

2329
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 9: It's not surprising you, right, they are disacerbating.

2330
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 2: I know when I saw it on.

2331
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 9: Friday, I was like, damn, that's I was disappointed, But

2332
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 9: because's a lot. I think Whitlock brought it up in

2333
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 9: a piece that he had. He was saying that, you know,

2334
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,880
Speaker 9: how can he do this against the players that grew

2335
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 9: up trying to be like him when he grew up,

2336
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 9: And he's like Michael Jordan never stood for anything when

2337
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 9: he was playing, and now he's trying to, you know,

2338
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 9: be down with his hardline tax or whatever. It's not

2339
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 9: surprising to me, like just to me personally, but it's

2340
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:14,680
Speaker 9: just it's a little disappointed.

2341
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 2: But I get it. Well, yeah, it's just like, well,

2342
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 2: if he's he did stand for something, well, he was

2343
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 2: a player, he stood for decertifying the union. He could

2344
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 2: well that well.

2345
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 9: That I mean, these guys like these guys now probably

2346
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:29,639
Speaker 9: making more money than him.

2347
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,480
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about like I think when Whitlock.

2348
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:34,759
Speaker 9: Was trying to allude to the fact that I guess

2349
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 9: like the kids working in the sweatshops making his shoes

2350
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 9: and all of that stuff, I will tell you what.

2351
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 2: I know exactly what Winlock is alluded to.

2352
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 8: Whitlock is alluded to the whole Hey, so are you

2353
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 8: gonna support this black dude in North Carolina who's a

2354
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:53,280
Speaker 8: Democrat and could use an endorsement from somebody from North Carolina? Uh,

2355
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 8: And he's running against one of the most racist motherfuckers

2356
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 8: in the history of the world in North Carolina. And

2357
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 8: he was like Republicans boss shoes too. And that has

2358
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 8: been the thing that's stuck about, stuck out about Michael Jordans.

2359
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 2: For my entire life. That motherfucker is for that check

2360
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 2: and has never ever been any type.

2361
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 8: Of miscommunication when it comes to that message. So I'm

2362
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:19,600
Speaker 8: not surprised by this. And where you go ahead, I

2363
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:19,760
Speaker 8: was like.

2364
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:21,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying, why should people be surprised? Ain't because of that?

2365
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 2: And b because Michael Jordan owns a team.

2366
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 5: If Michael Jordan was gonna be the type of ex

2367
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 5: NBA player who's gonna sit around and empathize with current

2368
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 5: NBA players and fight for their rights, then he would

2369
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:37,719
Speaker 5: have joined the union. You can't sit around and expect

2370
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 5: an owner. I don't care how big of an ex

2371
01:52:39,960 --> 01:52:41,719
Speaker 5: player he was. He's still an owner. Like, why would

2372
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 5: he sit around and advocate for players? No, he's a

2373
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 5: guy again, as Rod said, wants his money, likes his money.

2374
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 5: He's gonna make the decisions and the public statements that

2375
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 5: back that up. So I don't know why people are

2376
01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 5: surprised about this. He's not Billy Hunter, He's not Craig Hodges.

2377
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 2: He never has been. It just reeks of I want

2378
01:52:58,920 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 2: to be mad.

2379
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 8: That's what reeks up this entire quote unquote controversy is

2380
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 8: just I want to be mad at Michael Jordans some more,

2381
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 8: and that shit.

2382
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 2: Never gets old.

2383
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:09,680
Speaker 8: But I mean to think that he should hold the

2384
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:12,679
Speaker 8: same stance he had as a player in nineteen ninety eight.

2385
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 2: Now he's an owner too. I don't believe what I

2386
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 2: believed in fucking nineteen ninety eight right now? You know

2387
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like that I guarantee you that something

2388
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:22,559
Speaker 2: if it was recorded, you.

2389
01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:24,680
Speaker 8: Could find that I said two years ago when we

2390
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 8: started this podcast, and I'm like, yeah, that's bullshit, now,

2391
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 8: you know what I mean.

2392
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 2: I don't, don't you know.

2393
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 8: I'm sure at some point I was like, I don't

2394
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 8: know why people black people are on Twitter just ignore him.

2395
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:35,720
Speaker 2: And then some motherfucker started blowing.

2396
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,799
Speaker 8: Up my timeline because I got a little too popular,

2397
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 8: and I'm like, yes, block.

2398
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 2: That, nigga. I completely understand. Now I don't know, man, Yeah,

2399
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:44,559
Speaker 2: go ahead, Chris.

2400
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:46,800
Speaker 9: It's just going back to my point of like people

2401
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:49,559
Speaker 9: still look at him with the childlike eyes. I think

2402
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 9: we sometimes I'm kind of jaded, and as I am

2403
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 9: jaded as a person, but I can understand why why

2404
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:58,479
Speaker 9: would Michael do that?

2405
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 2: Man? But it's not but it is what it is.

2406
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 2: It's like he's he's not the same guy that he was.

2407
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 8: Well he I think he's always what I mean, like,

2408
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:14,080
Speaker 8: this is supposed to be in a player player as

2409
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 8: opposed to owner, Like, why wouldn't he why wouldn't he

2410
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 8: do that?

2411
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly right. I think we all agree, but I

2412
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 2: say he has always been this asshole. It was just

2413
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 2: covered a lot different at.

2414
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 10: That point in past and also I think because he

2415
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 10: was a player, he was the most popular player, and

2416
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:33,880
Speaker 10: David Stern did an excellent job of pushing and promote

2417
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 10: him in a certain type of way. And back then,

2418
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 10: to me, it was totally different than it was now

2419
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 10: if he was just player. Now, a lot of this

2420
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 10: ship when it came out in the book, it hit

2421
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 10: the news.

2422
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ship would have been on tm Z.

2423
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 8: Yes, like, oh, Michael Jordan in a picture of a

2424
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 8: white with him with a white woman in the hotel.

2425
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 2: That ship would be news as opposed to a hush

2426
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:53,640
Speaker 2: hush secret.

2427
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 8: That you know, the journalists get to keep with Michael

2428
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 8: Jordan and you see him at the bar picking up

2429
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 8: a chicken, winking a nod.

2430
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 2: You know, that ship is done those days. Now that

2431
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 2: ship is on TMZ.

2432
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 9: Well, it kind of reminds me of that Jeff Perlman

2433
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 9: book on Walston pat is it Jeff Peerlman sweet kind

2434
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 9: of It's like, you know, like he's he's more than

2435
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 9: just this foot adorable football player and he's you're seeing

2436
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 9: more fastest than this guy, and a lot of people

2437
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 9: are upset about that, but that's who.

2438
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 2: That guy was. Uh, you know, it's just the same thing. Well,

2439
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:27,920
Speaker 2: it's like a lot of things, dude.

2440
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 8: People are upset about the nostalgia that they felt like,

2441
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 8: they're upset that this image got painted by real life

2442
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,440
Speaker 8: getting in the way of a perfect picture of a

2443
01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:39,800
Speaker 8: man that you paying it and you know, it's the

2444
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 8: same reason, the same thing why I bring up the

2445
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 8: whole Martin Luther King used to be fucking chicks And

2446
01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 8: is that so bad?

2447
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:47,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, I don't know, Like

2448
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 2: I don't.

2449
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 8: Feel like that shit makes his civil rights movement not

2450
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:53,600
Speaker 8: worth it, you know, Like, oh, but he was fucking chicks.

2451
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:57,480
Speaker 2: He was unfaithful, Like yeah, that's fucked up, but thank

2452
01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:00,160
Speaker 2: you for the freedom. Know, I'll take it, you know

2453
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 2: what I mean, I don't know what I don't know.

2454
01:56:03,320 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 8: Speaking of images, have y'all heard about Seattle based superhero

2455
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 8: Phoenix Jones All right now, everybody knows he got his

2456
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 8: identity unveiled because he rolled up on some people that

2457
01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 8: said they were just dancing in the alley. He thought

2458
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:21,440
Speaker 8: it was a fight. They have this shit on film.

2459
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:24,360
Speaker 8: He rolled up on them and he got in an

2460
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 8: altercation with him as Pepper spray some and then proceeded

2461
01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 8: to get beat down by this woman on camera, so

2462
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:36,280
Speaker 8: he went to court his identity was unveiled. Well, apparently

2463
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:39,880
Speaker 8: his brother is an MMA fighter.

2464
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 2: That's right. Because we know his identity, we can.

2465
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:48,280
Speaker 8: Now track down his relatives and shit, this is what

2466
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 8: Peter Parker was afraid of.

2467
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeh.

2468
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 8: So he was fired from his jobs this week following

2469
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 8: the recent arrest, which I thought was and I guess

2470
01:56:57,320 --> 01:56:59,080
Speaker 8: I want to get y'all's opinion because I'm kind of

2471
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:02,560
Speaker 8: aren't on this issue because.

2472
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:08,960
Speaker 2: They fired him from his job, and like his job

2473
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:10,400
Speaker 2: was like taking care of.

2474
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 8: Like autistic kids, So like part of me is like, like,

2475
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 8: why should he get fired because he's a superhero and

2476
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:23,160
Speaker 8: he takes care of autistic kids. That actually sounds like

2477
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:26,400
Speaker 8: a very appropriate job for a superhero.

2478
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:28,800
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm just tripping man.

2479
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 8: Maybe Apparently because it was dangerous behavior and stuff, they

2480
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 8: have a clause in their contract with him that says,

2481
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 8: look and Mike, you can't be working here if you

2482
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 8: are doing get in any dangerous behavior, you have to

2483
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:45,920
Speaker 8: get out of here. So I'll just open it up

2484
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:47,960
Speaker 8: to the floor. Karen, First of all, what do you

2485
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 8: think is it just firefiring?

2486
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:55,040
Speaker 10: If there was something in his contract, is saying so yes,

2487
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:58,040
Speaker 10: if not, no, they're not related to each other, Like,

2488
01:57:58,240 --> 01:58:01,720
Speaker 10: I don't see the correlation. And unless there was something

2489
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:04,120
Speaker 10: to say you can't be arrested unless there is something

2490
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 10: you know, I mean, some type of a form of

2491
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 10: stipulations it says you can't have any altercations to law

2492
01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 10: or anything like that. Because if that's the case, typic

2493
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 10: could do you as all the time and you don't

2494
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 10: see people.

2495
01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 2: Find them for their jobs.

2496
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 8: Well, that says that the reason they did it was

2497
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:21,400
Speaker 8: because he has a history of interjecting himself in the

2498
01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 8: situations that are dangerous.

2499
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 5: Pattern of it, Well, we don't know what the rules are, right,

2500
01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 5: Like a lot of he's working you know, for a

2501
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 5: government agency and working with kids, and like a lot

2502
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 5: of times you got to have, you know, a criminal

2503
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:39,240
Speaker 5: background check before you accept a job like this. So

2504
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 5: now when you have a criminal record and now it's

2505
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 5: public because you've been arrested, like they all kind of

2506
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 5: justification to fire you because they can say, well, if

2507
01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 5: if you had done this the day before you came

2508
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 5: to apply for your job, we ran a record, a

2509
01:58:55,400 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 5: criminal background check on you, this would have come up

2510
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:57,960
Speaker 5: and we wouldn't hired you.

2511
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 2: In the first place. So here's the I can get it. Yeah,

2512
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 2: what about you, Chris, I can see the same. I

2513
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:09,000
Speaker 2: agree with Karen and Morgan because.

2514
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 9: I used to work with autistic kids when I was

2515
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:15,360
Speaker 9: living in Chicago, and uh, you do get the background

2516
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 9: checks and and if he lives.

2517
01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:19,200
Speaker 2: Like Morgan said, if he keeps I think you are

2518
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:19,960
Speaker 2: Morton said.

2519
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:24,000
Speaker 9: If he keeps continually injecting himself in these situations, it's

2520
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:26,880
Speaker 9: not it's not really safe. And then how can he

2521
01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:30,360
Speaker 9: be comp you know, how can he be confident enough

2522
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:32,920
Speaker 9: to take care of these kids? But on the flip side,

2523
01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:35,680
Speaker 9: I mean, that's that's that's a damn near admirable.

2524
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 2: It's an admirable gig. You know, that's not the easiest job.

2525
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:41,760
Speaker 2: And I mean I could just see it both ways.

2526
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:43,000
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know like.

2527
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:47,280
Speaker 9: Has he uh has he gotten into trouble before for

2528
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:49,440
Speaker 9: doing this or did he just get revealed?

2529
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:50,879
Speaker 2: He just got revealed.

2530
01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:53,840
Speaker 9: So so so how do they know that he had

2531
01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 9: he's had other prior instance, Well.

2532
01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 2: He's been a superhero. That's like he's had cameras, Like

2533
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:04,560
Speaker 2: it's no s who see Phoenix Jones the hero is before?

2534
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:08,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, but nobody knew. Nobody's seen his face. Yeah,

2535
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:10,840
Speaker 2: what did you say? More? He has not solved, but

2536
02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:12,680
Speaker 2: he has done this before.

2537
02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a crime fighter. Now, I don't know if

2538
02:00:15,640 --> 02:00:16,840
Speaker 8: he's spray face, he's not.

2539
02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:21,000
Speaker 2: He hasn't done this ship before, like normally has his mask. Yeah.

2540
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:23,240
Speaker 8: Most of the superhero shit boils out of like getting

2541
02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:24,400
Speaker 8: kittens out of trees and ship.

2542
02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:27,800
Speaker 2: It's not going around beating up people. It's uh.

2543
02:00:27,880 --> 02:00:31,200
Speaker 8: These people have normally good working relationships with the cops

2544
02:00:31,240 --> 02:00:33,160
Speaker 8: and normally they call the police.

2545
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:35,200
Speaker 2: It's not them actually fighting anybody.

2546
02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:38,520
Speaker 8: And ship like that, and even this when it looked

2547
02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:41,960
Speaker 8: like it got out of control man and he was

2548
02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:44,440
Speaker 8: filming the ship and he did reveal his identity and ship.

2549
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 2: But it's just one of those like I don't know, man,

2550
02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 2: I feel so kind of way about it.

2551
02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:50,800
Speaker 8: But maybe it's just because I want to believe in

2552
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:53,200
Speaker 8: the world where we could have heroes man, you know,

2553
02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:54,400
Speaker 8: but we can't.

2554
02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:56,440
Speaker 2: You can have heroes. His name is Michael Jordan. What

2555
02:00:56,480 --> 02:00:57,240
Speaker 2: are you talking about?

2556
02:00:57,480 --> 02:01:07,880
Speaker 13: Hah, Well, we haven't talked about America.

2557
02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:16,480
Speaker 8: Future President of America. Attacker halted by sword. It's fifteen

2558
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:20,240
Speaker 8: years that's right. This is a twist on the typical

2559
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:25,200
Speaker 8: sword ratchedness. The sword saved somebody and san Antonio teen,

2560
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:27,960
Speaker 8: who pistol whip one man, kicked another in the face

2561
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 8: as an accomplished stabbed him shot both victims. Yeah, this

2562
02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:34,680
Speaker 8: dude was going all in. He shot both victims and

2563
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:37,480
Speaker 8: put a gun to a woman's forehead during the botched

2564
02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 8: home invasion. Was sentenced Friday to fifteen years in prison.

2565
02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:45,520
Speaker 8: Raoul Julian Vargas, who was seventeen at the time of

2566
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:49,440
Speaker 8: the October ten, twenty ten breaking, had planned to steal

2567
02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:51,880
Speaker 8: drugs from the North Side apartment, which authority is described

2568
02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:55,520
Speaker 8: as containing numerous cage are exotic animals and a marijuana

2569
02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:59,640
Speaker 8: growing room. But after a female resident unsheathed the samurai

2570
02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 8: sword and started screaming at Vargas, he and his accomplices

2571
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:06,680
Speaker 8: accomplices will content to flee only with a Mac laptop.

2572
02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:11,480
Speaker 8: So these dudes had a gun, managed to beat everybody up,

2573
02:02:11,560 --> 02:02:15,520
Speaker 8: stab somebody, shot a couple of people, and then a

2574
02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:17,960
Speaker 8: woman came out with a sword that they abandoned the plan.

2575
02:02:18,920 --> 02:02:22,360
Speaker 2: It does not make any sense. It doesn't, it really does,

2576
02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:25,240
Speaker 2: But I am not watching up any of the jones.

2577
02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:28,840
Speaker 5: Well, if if swords are more powerful than guns than

2578
02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:31,600
Speaker 5: like the entire history of the Western world would be different.

2579
02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:35,160
Speaker 2: Right, Well, maybe she started them, like, maybe they juice.

2580
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:37,720
Speaker 2: But even well you alldo me and I have a gun.

2581
02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:40,560
Speaker 2: You started a nigga with a gun? How did you

2582
02:02:40,680 --> 02:02:45,760
Speaker 2: not get shot? Uh? We're in there.

2583
02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:51,360
Speaker 8: According to the right maybe according to the district she's

2584
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:55,440
Speaker 8: one of those juicuits. According to district Judge Angus mcguinte,

2585
02:02:55,600 --> 02:02:57,840
Speaker 8: he found the facts of the case to be horrendous.

2586
02:02:58,240 --> 02:02:59,920
Speaker 2: And I do too. How the fuck did they do

2587
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:01,880
Speaker 2: that with a Oh he's talking about the actual crime.

2588
02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:05,360
Speaker 8: I find you to be extremely dangerous, he told Vargus.

2589
02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:08,560
Speaker 8: Vargas initially faced up to life in prison for aggravated robbery,

2590
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:11,640
Speaker 8: but pleaded no contests in September in exchange for prosecutors

2591
02:03:11,680 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 8: agreed to ask.

2592
02:03:12,320 --> 02:03:14,840
Speaker 2: The judge for no more than fifteen years. He wept

2593
02:03:14,920 --> 02:03:16,440
Speaker 2: Friday as defense.

2594
02:03:16,160 --> 02:03:20,000
Speaker 8: Attorney William Davidson called his employer and two other acquaintances,

2595
02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:22,240
Speaker 8: who asked the judge for mercy, describing him as an

2596
02:03:22,280 --> 02:03:24,600
Speaker 8: aspiring barber and a tattoo arc.

2597
02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:27,800
Speaker 2: Wait. Hold on, yep, let's stop this right here.

2598
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:32,600
Speaker 5: You can aspire to goals that are like really lofty

2599
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:37,360
Speaker 5: and difficult to attain. Right, he's an aspiring football player,

2600
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:40,640
Speaker 5: he's an aspiring comedian because you have to work.

2601
02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:43,840
Speaker 2: Your way up through all kinds of levels. What is

2602
02:03:43,880 --> 02:03:47,120
Speaker 2: an aspiring barber? Like you know how to cut hair?

2603
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:49,480
Speaker 5: You don't like by the time you're seventeen, you've got

2604
02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:52,880
Speaker 5: some little friends, siblings, whatever, You've cut your hair like

2605
02:03:53,440 --> 02:03:54,480
Speaker 5: an aspiring dude?

2606
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:56,120
Speaker 2: What is stopping you from being a barber?

2607
02:03:56,800 --> 02:04:00,200
Speaker 8: And I mean, in the words of jay Z, a

2608
02:04:00,280 --> 02:04:02,880
Speaker 8: gun in your face. And that's all you could come

2609
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:07,560
Speaker 8: up with by not being an aspiring doctor, an aspiring lawyer,

2610
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:10,680
Speaker 8: aspiring president brought it up.

2611
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:13,640
Speaker 2: Yes, this is what I'm saying. Just make the ship up.

2612
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:15,760
Speaker 2: Who's gonna check? You know what I'm saying.

2613
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:18,920
Speaker 8: I was aspiring to be the world peace leader. Okay,

2614
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:24,400
Speaker 8: fifteen years either way. So Vargus tears stopped at the

2615
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:27,640
Speaker 8: judge and now the sentence. His mother, however, began wailing,

2616
02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 8: yelling at over the judge, and then talked taking a

2617
02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:35,080
Speaker 8: pully aimed swing at television television cameraman as deputies escorted

2618
02:04:35,120 --> 02:04:36,120
Speaker 8: her out of the courtroom.

2619
02:04:36,320 --> 02:04:38,760
Speaker 2: Well, now they know where he got it from. Right

2620
02:04:40,480 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 2: the apple tree.

2621
02:04:42,600 --> 02:04:45,040
Speaker 8: Whenness Is told police that on the night of the robbery,

2622
02:04:45,120 --> 02:04:46,920
Speaker 8: Vargas called an acquaintance.

2623
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:52,680
Speaker 2: He met once during a job interview. Wow, so he wait, no,

2624
02:04:52,680 --> 02:04:53,600
Speaker 2: I peeped this out though.

2625
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:56,960
Speaker 8: He called an acquaintance he met during a job interview,

2626
02:04:57,520 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 8: stating that he was looking for a drug connection.

2627
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:05,800
Speaker 2: What kind of job interview is this? Right? Drug man

2628
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:08,120
Speaker 2: was like, let me see your references. He hey, Chris

2629
02:05:08,200 --> 02:05:10,840
Speaker 2: is rob man. Remember me from the job interview? Uh?

2630
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:13,280
Speaker 8: What what you know about getting some weed around here?

2631
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:16,000
Speaker 8: You know, says a little Ford. But maybe that's the

2632
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:18,320
Speaker 8: only number you had left in his phone. He was

2633
02:05:18,320 --> 02:05:20,600
Speaker 8: referred to another man, who directed him to the North

2634
02:05:20,640 --> 02:05:23,760
Speaker 8: Side apartment. After asking the man if he had any

2635
02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 8: marijuana or guns, Bargains pulled out his own gun. Knocked

2636
02:05:28,120 --> 02:05:29,600
Speaker 8: now see the correct answer to.

2637
02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:31,040
Speaker 2: That was yes and yes.

2638
02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:36,040
Speaker 8: As now that's why happens when you say yes and no, Like, oh,

2639
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:37,920
Speaker 8: we got weed, but now we don't have any form

2640
02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:42,440
Speaker 8: of protection. Bargains pulled out his own gun, knocked out

2641
02:05:42,440 --> 02:05:45,280
Speaker 8: the drug connection's tooth with it, shot him in the shoulder,

2642
02:05:45,320 --> 02:05:46,480
Speaker 8: and then pointed the weapon at.

2643
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:47,360
Speaker 2: The man's girlfriend.

2644
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:47,720
Speaker 3: Oh.

2645
02:05:48,280 --> 02:05:53,200
Speaker 8: Meanwhile, witnesses said two accomplices were trying unsuccessfully to subdue

2646
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:55,960
Speaker 8: the homeowner, stabbed him twice in his ribs as they

2647
02:05:56,000 --> 02:06:01,560
Speaker 8: wrestled with him before Vargus, uh for ho o okay,

2648
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:03,560
Speaker 8: before asking Vargus to shoot the man.

2649
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:07,920
Speaker 2: Those kids accomplishes because they didn't tell Vargus. They're like, yo,

2650
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:14,920
Speaker 2: shoot no sirt, please please man, ask you for may shoot?

2651
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:17,280
Speaker 2: We really shoot this man? Please. I think we're back.

2652
02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:18,880
Speaker 2: Should be good. I don't know.

2653
02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:21,960
Speaker 8: Uh, our internet dropped from people at home that uh

2654
02:06:23,240 --> 02:06:25,800
Speaker 8: that aren't privy to the inner workers of a podcast.

2655
02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:29,320
Speaker 2: The internet dropped, and I believe Morgan was making a

2656
02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:33,600
Speaker 2: point and we lost you in what was what hed?

2657
02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:37,680
Speaker 2: I said, Let's see we were talking about the stabbing.

2658
02:06:38,160 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So they wrestled the dude to the ground

2659
02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:44,080
Speaker 5: and they're stabbing him, and he says before asking Vargas

2660
02:06:44,080 --> 02:06:46,560
Speaker 5: to shoot the man, which he did, which is strange

2661
02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:48,160
Speaker 5: because you would think like in the heat of the moment,

2662
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:49,960
Speaker 5: they were just like tell him to shoot the guy

2663
02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:50,520
Speaker 5: or please?

2664
02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:53,360
Speaker 2: Did he shoot the guy? But they asked, They were

2665
02:06:53,480 --> 02:06:55,520
Speaker 2: very polite, Yes, you might shooting this guy.

2666
02:06:55,560 --> 02:06:56,360
Speaker 6: You know what.

2667
02:06:56,400 --> 02:07:00,440
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to but you asked, so nicely came

2668
02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:05,120
Speaker 2: moll shooting him. You know. The other thing too, is

2669
02:07:05,200 --> 02:07:07,280
Speaker 2: like you can't don't forget.

2670
02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:11,240
Speaker 8: This is like his lawyer's version of what happened, so

2671
02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:15,280
Speaker 8: like like he could have just walked in start stabbing

2672
02:07:15,320 --> 02:07:17,320
Speaker 8: his shooting people, and of course the lawyer's gonna be like,

2673
02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:19,440
Speaker 8: then they asked him to shoot him in Mark Canlan

2674
02:07:19,600 --> 02:07:23,040
Speaker 8: is so kind as an inspiring barber. He's learned that

2675
02:07:23,120 --> 02:07:26,920
Speaker 8: you look, the customer is always right. So yeah, so

2676
02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:31,000
Speaker 8: apparently they asked him to shoot the dude and he

2677
02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:32,680
Speaker 8: was like cool.

2678
02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:38,600
Speaker 2: I got y'all. Uh, no problem. He dabbed him, you know,

2679
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:39,360
Speaker 2: dapped him up.

2680
02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:40,160
Speaker 8: Uh.

2681
02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:45,280
Speaker 2: And it looks like all the victims ended up surviving anyway. Yeah.

2682
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:50,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, and uh the roommate who is not the girlfriend,

2683
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:53,120
Speaker 8: so they had another person there picked up a sword

2684
02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:56,320
Speaker 8: and then the bad guys ran out the room.

2685
02:07:56,480 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 2: That's what I don't understand.

2686
02:07:57,520 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 5: So he's got no problem shooting the fenil those people,

2687
02:08:00,840 --> 02:08:01,160
Speaker 5: but the.

2688
02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:04,640
Speaker 2: One person who actually does threaten his safety he doesn't shoot,

2689
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:08,800
Speaker 2: like even out of self defense. Yeah, I don't know, man,

2690
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:11,640
Speaker 2: a lot of work to do.

2691
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:15,520
Speaker 5: I'm I'm the first admit like, I'm not the least

2692
02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:17,440
Speaker 5: criminal person who'll come across. But it just seems to

2693
02:08:17,480 --> 02:08:19,680
Speaker 5: me like a lot of work to do to steal

2694
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:24,440
Speaker 5: some weed. Yeah, a lot of work, man, Yeah.

2695
02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:27,160
Speaker 2: Pistol whip one guy and then shoot somebody else and

2696
02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:30,000
Speaker 2: shoot him to just to what to get some weeds.

2697
02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:33,520
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of potential time to sweat

2698
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:34,880
Speaker 2: for you got it? Is that worth it?

2699
02:08:35,320 --> 02:08:38,560
Speaker 8: Well, I'm just saying a lot of potential prison time, right, yeah,

2700
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:42,720
Speaker 8: nash A man allegedly stabbed the acquaintance with the samurai sword.

2701
02:08:43,320 --> 02:08:43,720
Speaker 2: That's right.

2702
02:08:43,760 --> 02:08:49,520
Speaker 8: It's sore season, guys, your kids. National Police arrested a

2703
02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:52,440
Speaker 8: local man early Thursday morning for allegedly threatening and stabbing

2704
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:57,920
Speaker 8: a friend with a samurai type sword. Yeah, well it

2705
02:08:58,000 --> 02:08:59,720
Speaker 8: wasn't a real friend because it was just a type

2706
02:08:59,720 --> 02:09:01,680
Speaker 8: of so, a type of samurai soor you know, not

2707
02:09:01,760 --> 02:09:04,800
Speaker 8: the it wasn't the samurai swords, the samurai type.

2708
02:09:04,840 --> 02:09:07,640
Speaker 2: It was close. Might have been a ninja stord.

2709
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:11,200
Speaker 8: Those are a lot shorter, yes, According to a press

2710
02:09:11,200 --> 02:09:15,480
Speaker 8: release by Natural Police Department, Andrew Lavoie, I don't know

2711
02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:16,200
Speaker 8: how to pronounce that.

2712
02:09:16,520 --> 02:09:21,520
Speaker 2: Why Lavoir nineteen of three Murray Court number twenty six.

2713
02:09:21,560 --> 02:09:30,360
Speaker 2: They give us address you. Yes, we got that big.

2714
02:09:30,840 --> 02:09:33,160
Speaker 2: So like you see the name Andrew Lavoie, like you

2715
02:09:33,200 --> 02:09:34,920
Speaker 2: know who it is, and it's like, just in CASEY

2716
02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:38,280
Speaker 2: didn't know, here is exactly now you know exactly who

2717
02:09:38,280 --> 02:09:38,920
Speaker 2: it is. I don't know.

2718
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:44,040
Speaker 9: He's also he's also the mayor of Subway like five

2719
02:09:44,120 --> 02:09:46,040
Speaker 9: miles away, so.

2720
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 8: It's like, here's a good place to go if you

2721
02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:52,400
Speaker 8: like to get stabbed. It's charged with a Class B

2722
02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:56,720
Speaker 8: felloy second degree of criminal threatening, each carrying a sentence

2723
02:09:56,760 --> 02:09:59,320
Speaker 8: of imprisonment in the state prison up to seven years.

2724
02:09:59,360 --> 02:09:59,960
Speaker 2: In addition to.

2725
02:10:00,120 --> 02:10:04,080
Speaker 8: Finds, Police said, patrol officers responded to a local hospital

2726
02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:05,160
Speaker 8: on Wednesday.

2727
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:07,080
Speaker 2: November three, regarding in the soccer plane.

2728
02:10:07,160 --> 02:10:10,480
Speaker 8: Upon arrival, the officers met with an adult male victim

2729
02:10:10,720 --> 02:10:14,720
Speaker 8: who reportedly have been threatened and assaulted by Edrew Levoi.

2730
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:20,880
Speaker 8: Detectives at the department's Criminal Investigations Division conducted an investigation

2731
02:10:20,960 --> 02:10:23,640
Speaker 8: determined that the victim and his alleged assailor knew each other.

2732
02:10:23,960 --> 02:10:26,240
Speaker 8: They learned that further that the victim was being treated

2733
02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:29,640
Speaker 8: for a minor hand incision that was caused by Eddrew

2734
02:10:29,720 --> 02:10:33,520
Speaker 8: Levoire and it was done with a small samurai sword

2735
02:10:34,160 --> 02:10:35,240
Speaker 8: ware threatening.

2736
02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:37,600
Speaker 10: You know I don't commit crimes because when I just

2737
02:10:37,640 --> 02:10:40,120
Speaker 10: see class ADC demon, I don't know what the defen

2738
02:10:40,360 --> 02:10:41,400
Speaker 10: what diffenicion makes.

2739
02:10:41,560 --> 02:10:44,080
Speaker 2: It's all jail time. But here's the story that's kind

2740
02:10:44,080 --> 02:10:47,640
Speaker 2: of cute. Apparently, I'll just do this from real quick.

2741
02:10:48,080 --> 02:10:50,440
Speaker 2: A couple fifty nine year old.

2742
02:10:50,240 --> 02:10:53,520
Speaker 8: Men and a fifty three year old woman stole a

2743
02:10:53,600 --> 02:10:55,400
Speaker 8: police car so they could have sex in it.

2744
02:10:56,080 --> 02:10:58,120
Speaker 2: Ah, I feel like.

2745
02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:00,840
Speaker 5: The craziest stories got a couple of times have been

2746
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:03,680
Speaker 5: on here, and the craziest stories involving people too old

2747
02:11:04,120 --> 02:11:06,280
Speaker 5: to be doing the shit they're doing, come from the

2748
02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:11,320
Speaker 5: Palm Beach Post going about some like old ass roommates

2749
02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:14,960
Speaker 5: and like somebody threw some alcohol in somebody or something

2750
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:15,400
Speaker 5: and tried to.

2751
02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:16,160
Speaker 2: Light it on fire.

2752
02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:18,560
Speaker 5: And these guys are like fifty five years old and

2753
02:11:18,640 --> 02:11:19,600
Speaker 5: he still got roommates.

2754
02:11:19,600 --> 02:11:20,280
Speaker 2: And now this.

2755
02:11:22,120 --> 02:11:26,840
Speaker 8: On Florida, Florida man tell us it looks like they

2756
02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:30,320
Speaker 8: were arrested for gret that auto Sheriff's probable calls after

2757
02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:34,080
Speaker 8: David says the plane coast the plane closed. Deputy from

2758
02:11:34,120 --> 02:11:37,200
Speaker 8: the Sheriff's Auto Theft Task Force parked their green.

2759
02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:39,720
Speaker 2: Honda Civic in front of a quick Stop.

2760
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:43,440
Speaker 8: And the Civic, which is owned by the Sheriff's Department

2761
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:47,280
Speaker 8: and had video and audio and GPS surveilans, was locked

2762
02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:52,600
Speaker 8: left unlocked while running Ah, Pratt and Pearson got into

2763
02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:56,680
Speaker 8: the car, back the vehicle out onto the highway headed southbound.

2764
02:11:57,080 --> 02:11:59,600
Speaker 8: Spotted by deputies, they followed the Civic and conducted the

2765
02:11:59,600 --> 02:12:01,800
Speaker 8: trafficks stop UH and.

2766
02:12:02,520 --> 02:12:04,280
Speaker 2: Pierson and Pratt were taking into custody.

2767
02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:06,960
Speaker 8: Pract told deputies he knew the car was stolen, but

2768
02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:10,080
Speaker 8: didn't regret it because he wanted to go have intimate

2769
02:12:10,160 --> 02:12:11,400
Speaker 8: relations with Pearson.

2770
02:12:12,800 --> 02:12:16,080
Speaker 2: Wow, now you know he owed that. Nigga said relations.

2771
02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:26,720
Speaker 2: Well wait a minute, he didn't say it. The affidavit

2772
02:12:26,760 --> 02:12:30,040
Speaker 2: says it, right, Okay, So he was trying like, yeah,

2773
02:12:30,200 --> 02:12:31,960
Speaker 2: I was just trying to go get some action.

2774
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:35,560
Speaker 5: And then because police have they always speak police ease

2775
02:12:35,640 --> 02:12:37,360
Speaker 5: on these affidavits.

2776
02:12:37,280 --> 02:12:44,440
Speaker 2: To relations, he could have said, have said exactly, said

2777
02:12:44,440 --> 02:12:46,640
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff. I was gonna go get some

2778
02:12:46,680 --> 02:12:47,960
Speaker 2: trim and there.

2779
02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:59,600
Speaker 8: Elderly man was kidnapped and raped Near's Coro Park. Now listen, guys, listen,

2780
02:12:59,800 --> 02:13:02,760
Speaker 8: I'm I will tell y'all something. Well, actually all read

2781
02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:05,600
Speaker 8: the article first that I said, so Carl Police and

2782
02:13:05,640 --> 02:13:08,240
Speaker 8: the FBR are looking for four men who police say

2783
02:13:08,280 --> 02:13:11,000
Speaker 8: attacked and rape an elderly man who was out this

2784
02:13:11,120 --> 02:13:15,080
Speaker 8: morning for his morning walk. Investigator said, the seventy year

2785
02:13:15,080 --> 02:13:19,720
Speaker 8: old was walking Thursday around six am at this park,

2786
02:13:20,480 --> 02:13:23,560
Speaker 8: and he said four black men got out of a

2787
02:13:23,640 --> 02:13:28,240
Speaker 8: late nineties Ford or Chevrolet van or minivan and demanded

2788
02:13:28,640 --> 02:13:32,520
Speaker 8: the Mexican American man to give them money. When he

2789
02:13:32,600 --> 02:13:35,040
Speaker 8: said no, they allegedly grabbed him and threw him in

2790
02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:36,080
Speaker 8: the vand and raped them.

2791
02:13:36,520 --> 02:13:39,720
Speaker 2: Oh then the man they yelled racial slurs at the

2792
02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:41,720
Speaker 2: victim as they raped them.

2793
02:13:42,040 --> 02:13:44,360
Speaker 8: And these four people know each other well enough to

2794
02:13:44,400 --> 02:13:45,720
Speaker 8: do something like this in front.

2795
02:13:45,560 --> 02:13:46,960
Speaker 2: Of each other. This is in atrocity.

2796
02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:50,920
Speaker 8: Guscia said, this man was somebody's dad, this man was

2797
02:13:50,960 --> 02:13:52,720
Speaker 8: somebody's brother, somebody's friend.

2798
02:13:53,120 --> 02:13:58,000
Speaker 2: And David Guarcia is a spokesman for SKORO. I guess

2799
02:13:58,000 --> 02:13:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. They an'ted to say police deviirement or nothing,

2800
02:14:00,520 --> 02:14:04,000
Speaker 2: did say? They just say spokesman. Wait.

2801
02:14:04,320 --> 02:14:08,040
Speaker 5: Wait, First of all, this guy in quotations in the quote,

2802
02:14:08,320 --> 02:14:11,280
Speaker 5: there's an exclamation mark after atrocity, like how do you

2803
02:14:11,320 --> 02:14:13,080
Speaker 5: determine that when speaking to somebody?

2804
02:14:13,560 --> 02:14:15,280
Speaker 2: Like because he was mad?

2805
02:14:17,280 --> 02:14:20,280
Speaker 8: He said the victim was the victim was so badly

2806
02:14:20,400 --> 02:14:22,720
Speaker 8: hurt that he had surgery and there's a serious condition

2807
02:14:22,760 --> 02:14:23,480
Speaker 8: at a hospital.

2808
02:14:23,880 --> 02:14:26,040
Speaker 2: I think that's ridiculous. A seventy year.

2809
02:14:25,920 --> 02:14:29,520
Speaker 8: Old man getting taken and raped by an unknown vehicle?

2810
02:14:29,720 --> 02:14:35,320
Speaker 2: What no, hell? Yeah vehicle? Wait wait because the band

2811
02:14:35,440 --> 02:14:42,040
Speaker 2: got more even the band yes? Man, wait wait wait.

2812
02:14:42,240 --> 02:14:45,440
Speaker 5: So it would be less ridiculous if a thirty nine

2813
02:14:45,480 --> 02:14:48,400
Speaker 5: year old man was taken in rape. It is ridiculous

2814
02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:49,960
Speaker 5: if a seventy year old man was taken in.

2815
02:14:49,960 --> 02:14:52,560
Speaker 2: Rape by a known vehicle, like, I don't.

2816
02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:58,640
Speaker 9: It's weird because like they don't they don't know if

2817
02:14:58,640 --> 02:15:02,760
Speaker 9: it's a Ford or Chevrolet or Van or Mini Van

2818
02:15:03,120 --> 02:15:07,200
Speaker 9: or Lexus or Chevy Blazer or was it a boat?

2819
02:15:07,560 --> 02:15:09,360
Speaker 2: Like what kind of like reports?

2820
02:15:10,160 --> 02:15:10,680
Speaker 8: It's like.

2821
02:15:12,160 --> 02:15:14,080
Speaker 2: When you're being raped in a vehicle, it's hard to

2822
02:15:14,080 --> 02:15:15,000
Speaker 2: get the making model.

2823
02:15:15,040 --> 02:15:19,760
Speaker 5: Man, Christians hard think Christian Neva says that the vehicle

2824
02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:20,480
Speaker 5: did the raping.

2825
02:15:21,240 --> 02:15:24,000
Speaker 2: Yes, he was raped, note vehicle.

2826
02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:26,040
Speaker 8: Yes, and see when the vehicle's behind you, how can

2827
02:15:26,080 --> 02:15:27,480
Speaker 8: you tell what the making model is?

2828
02:15:27,480 --> 02:15:30,200
Speaker 2: True? Yes, you two just gotta go by the waiting outline.

2829
02:15:30,240 --> 02:15:32,320
Speaker 2: Are you trying to tell the tie side that's being

2830
02:15:32,400 --> 02:15:33,120
Speaker 2: very hard to do that.

2831
02:15:33,560 --> 02:15:36,440
Speaker 8: He lives in the neighborhood and said he usually wakes

2832
02:15:36,520 --> 02:15:38,800
Speaker 8: up early and see several people take a walk along

2833
02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:42,480
Speaker 8: the park. He said children also walked to school early

2834
02:15:42,560 --> 02:15:44,920
Speaker 8: in the morning. Police said the attackers are in the

2835
02:15:44,960 --> 02:15:47,840
Speaker 8: mid twenties to thirties. Call the police if you have

2836
02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:50,400
Speaker 8: any information. And what I'll say about this is I

2837
02:15:50,400 --> 02:15:51,040
Speaker 8: don't believe it.

2838
02:15:51,280 --> 02:15:53,120
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, this story is so full.

2839
02:15:53,960 --> 02:15:57,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was like, it's not like all those stories

2840
02:15:57,600 --> 02:16:01,480
Speaker 8: where somebody makes up Oh this black dude tried to

2841
02:16:01,560 --> 02:16:02,000
Speaker 8: rape me.

2842
02:16:02,280 --> 02:16:04,480
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's like, oh.

2843
02:16:04,240 --> 02:16:07,520
Speaker 8: And then they carved Z on your face for Obama

2844
02:16:07,560 --> 02:16:09,120
Speaker 8: and they did it backwards like they did it in

2845
02:16:09,120 --> 02:16:09,560
Speaker 8: the mirror.

2846
02:16:10,040 --> 02:16:11,120
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.

2847
02:16:11,360 --> 02:16:13,240
Speaker 10: It sounded like he was probably out there was twenty

2848
02:16:13,240 --> 02:16:15,320
Speaker 10: three year old lover and he when he hurt him

2849
02:16:15,320 --> 02:16:18,040
Speaker 10: too hard and that it won't tell about they love Phil.

2850
02:16:18,320 --> 02:16:20,120
Speaker 10: So he just said, well, tell somebody, tell them to

2851
02:16:20,160 --> 02:16:20,840
Speaker 10: somebody repe you.

2852
02:16:20,880 --> 02:16:23,360
Speaker 2: And I'm out, Yeah, that could be true.

2853
02:16:23,720 --> 02:16:28,080
Speaker 8: I mean, because I can't see this particulous, Like the

2854
02:16:28,200 --> 02:16:32,640
Speaker 8: story really makes no sense. It doesn't like I guess,

2855
02:16:32,680 --> 02:16:34,920
Speaker 8: and the thing again I notice can happen, but it's

2856
02:16:34,920 --> 02:16:36,320
Speaker 8: still it don't make sense.

2857
02:16:36,560 --> 02:16:40,160
Speaker 2: You don't. The thing is like, it's not that I

2858
02:16:40,200 --> 02:16:40,840
Speaker 2: don't want to.

2859
02:16:42,360 --> 02:16:46,320
Speaker 8: It's not like I'm purposely like, fuck this, dude, impossible,

2860
02:16:46,600 --> 02:16:48,760
Speaker 8: because I've read a story before on here where I

2861
02:16:48,800 --> 02:16:50,560
Speaker 8: was like that shit sounded like it happened, and that's

2862
02:16:50,600 --> 02:16:51,120
Speaker 8: a nightmare.

2863
02:16:51,320 --> 02:16:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this shit is so fucked up. But my

2864
02:16:53,600 --> 02:16:55,959
Speaker 2: mind is just like, this can't be real and it.

2865
02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:58,879
Speaker 9: Feels kind of far fetched to me because none of

2866
02:16:58,879 --> 02:17:02,320
Speaker 9: the assailants were aspiring barbers, so I don't know.

2867
02:17:03,959 --> 02:17:07,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they wanted some trim, but they didn't

2868
02:17:07,800 --> 02:17:08,400
Speaker 2: get trim.

2869
02:17:10,640 --> 02:17:15,560
Speaker 8: My favorite part about these kind of articles are the comments,

2870
02:17:15,600 --> 02:17:17,959
Speaker 8: like my man, uh.

2871
02:17:18,200 --> 02:17:23,680
Speaker 2: Ku klutz Kanievl left the com that's his name.

2872
02:17:23,959 --> 02:17:28,280
Speaker 8: He left comment niggers never ceased to amaze me and

2873
02:17:28,400 --> 02:17:31,160
Speaker 8: they will mud dick any and all.

2874
02:17:31,879 --> 02:17:34,280
Speaker 10: And somebody comment was so bad they got removed for

2875
02:17:34,440 --> 02:17:39,359
Speaker 10: violating a U sage your agreement, they said, But ku klutz.

2876
02:17:39,160 --> 02:17:41,920
Speaker 2: Kanief he didn't violate any usage agreements.

2877
02:17:42,360 --> 02:17:46,440
Speaker 9: Yes, well, when he wrote niggers, he put it in

2878
02:17:46,520 --> 02:17:48,320
Speaker 9: all caps, but he didn't put an eye. He put

2879
02:17:48,320 --> 02:17:54,800
Speaker 9: an exclamation point, So he's not really he's not really saying.

2880
02:17:54,760 --> 02:17:57,840
Speaker 5: That's an iron nigger and I love ku cut Kiel

2881
02:17:57,959 --> 02:18:01,400
Speaker 5: Like bashing niggers is if a guy named ku klus

2882
02:18:01,440 --> 02:18:06,400
Speaker 5: knieval is also gonna like Mexican's too, Like, well.

2883
02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:09,160
Speaker 8: It's okay because he's voting for Herman King, so you're

2884
02:18:09,200 --> 02:18:14,119
Speaker 8: not racist acceptable. The problem with politically imposed racial favoritism

2885
02:18:14,160 --> 02:18:18,000
Speaker 8: is that it requires stereotypes of morally superior and moraally

2886
02:18:18,440 --> 02:18:21,760
Speaker 8: inferior racist the racial league, that's what he puts. The

2887
02:18:21,879 --> 02:18:26,840
Speaker 8: racially favored are thus encouraged to treat those stereo type

2888
02:18:26,959 --> 02:18:29,760
Speaker 8: as morally inferior, as though they deserve.

2889
02:18:29,480 --> 02:18:32,400
Speaker 2: Both discrimination and personal contempt.

2890
02:18:33,200 --> 02:18:37,200
Speaker 8: The weak minded of the politically favored, always a majority,

2891
02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:41,560
Speaker 8: will naturally succumb to the sign song of racial superiority

2892
02:18:41,840 --> 02:18:45,359
Speaker 8: because it is an effortless path to a superior self image.

2893
02:18:45,600 --> 02:18:49,199
Speaker 8: Does today expect to go of arrogant black biggest expressing

2894
02:18:49,280 --> 02:18:52,680
Speaker 8: violent contempt for whites which mirrors but does not remedy

2895
02:18:52,720 --> 02:18:59,160
Speaker 8: the same racial violence and reverse colors of the past. About, Yes, yes,

2896
02:18:59,360 --> 02:19:02,800
Speaker 8: it mirrors, it doesn't really it also encouraged by the

2897
02:19:02,840 --> 02:19:07,120
Speaker 8: stereotypes of politically opposed racial favoritism. Too bad that the

2898
02:19:07,160 --> 02:19:11,400
Speaker 8: perpetual politically, fire violence and contempt visited upon one another

2899
02:19:11,440 --> 02:19:14,120
Speaker 8: by the American people is never directed at those who

2900
02:19:14,360 --> 02:19:15,439
Speaker 8: actually profit.

2901
02:19:15,120 --> 02:19:18,959
Speaker 2: From every form of racial favoritism. The scum of Jesus.

2902
02:19:19,640 --> 02:19:23,360
Speaker 9: You know, this person doesn't have any validity with me

2903
02:19:23,480 --> 02:19:28,160
Speaker 9: because the person's name is the Bratha and it sounds

2904
02:19:28,160 --> 02:19:31,760
Speaker 9: like this is a person that plays World of Warcraft. Wait,

2905
02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:34,240
Speaker 9: and you know, I just I don't.

2906
02:19:34,000 --> 02:19:36,560
Speaker 5: Respect to have any credibility with me because they are

2907
02:19:36,560 --> 02:19:40,920
Speaker 5: commenting on a news story about because you're commenting on

2908
02:19:41,040 --> 02:19:45,520
Speaker 5: news story period, right on a news story. I love

2909
02:19:45,640 --> 02:19:49,600
Speaker 5: that about also about a seven year old man being

2910
02:19:49,640 --> 02:19:50,760
Speaker 5: raped by an unown vehicle.

2911
02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:54,240
Speaker 2: That's why. Also like you can't you can't.

2912
02:19:54,640 --> 02:19:57,840
Speaker 5: Get any type of society so greater truth from this

2913
02:19:57,879 --> 02:19:58,600
Speaker 5: fucking article.

2914
02:19:58,640 --> 02:20:02,800
Speaker 8: But then also I love that this motherfucker was up

2915
02:20:02,800 --> 02:20:04,439
Speaker 8: at five fifty in the morning.

2916
02:20:05,680 --> 02:20:09,480
Speaker 2: Like this is I'm gonna comment on this ship right here. Y.

2917
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:12,000
Speaker 5: Well, the other thing is this is this is clearly

2918
02:20:12,040 --> 02:20:14,920
Speaker 5: like some screed this guy has. It's just been in

2919
02:20:14,959 --> 02:20:17,320
Speaker 5: his head for years and he just needed the perfect

2920
02:20:17,360 --> 02:20:20,200
Speaker 5: opportunity just because he just he needed the opportunities to

2921
02:20:20,200 --> 02:20:24,080
Speaker 5: express it. And this story gave him that reason.

2922
02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:27,160
Speaker 2: Because what he's What he wrote has nothing to do story.

2923
02:20:27,320 --> 02:20:30,400
Speaker 2: This is his dumb speech. Yes, like he had just

2924
02:20:30,520 --> 02:20:33,520
Speaker 2: like people go, hey, man, you walk ball out and

2925
02:20:33,520 --> 02:20:35,080
Speaker 2: he goes, I didn't walk.

2926
02:20:35,720 --> 02:20:40,760
Speaker 8: Listen, the racial minorities and inferiority of the supreme masses.

2927
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:42,840
Speaker 2: Will lead you to that. You're like, dag what I

2928
02:20:42,959 --> 02:20:45,280
Speaker 2: just okay, you can have the ball. I'm sorry. This

2929
02:20:45,320 --> 02:20:49,680
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with vehicle sodomy. This doesn't anything. Yes,

2930
02:20:50,360 --> 02:20:51,520
Speaker 2: why are you bringing this up?

2931
02:20:52,680 --> 02:20:54,720
Speaker 8: He's like, your vehicle side of the story is getting

2932
02:20:54,720 --> 02:21:02,000
Speaker 8: in the way of my rent. Which hot sandwich? Arm

2933
02:21:02,120 --> 02:21:05,720
Speaker 8: Roberts fleet with thirteen year olds meatball sandwich? Now I

2934
02:21:05,760 --> 02:21:08,280
Speaker 8: know this is an article that's gonna really go near

2935
02:21:08,320 --> 02:21:11,160
Speaker 8: and dead to Karen's heart because the meatball sub is

2936
02:21:11,240 --> 02:21:15,040
Speaker 8: Karen's favorite. It is arm Roberts made off with a

2937
02:21:15,160 --> 02:21:18,000
Speaker 8: thirteen year old victims five dollars and fifty cent meatball

2938
02:21:18,080 --> 02:21:22,119
Speaker 8: sandwich Saturday evening, but left behind his cell phone, which

2939
02:21:22,200 --> 02:21:24,760
Speaker 8: the team properly used to call the police.

2940
02:21:25,560 --> 02:21:28,080
Speaker 2: How you gonna take the sandwich but leave a cell phone?

2941
02:21:28,480 --> 02:21:30,160
Speaker 2: I got to call the police on your ass too.

2942
02:21:30,560 --> 02:21:37,000
Speaker 8: The two suspects, Ray Sean Amir Mallory and Ernest Wellington Barnett.

2943
02:21:37,280 --> 02:21:40,360
Speaker 2: What I like. I like that their names to me

2944
02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:41,920
Speaker 2: are almost.

2945
02:21:41,640 --> 02:21:45,840
Speaker 8: Complete opposites like Rayshan Amir Mallory sounds like a nigga

2946
02:21:45,879 --> 02:21:49,480
Speaker 8: that might rob you. Ernest Wellington Barnett could also work

2947
02:21:49,520 --> 02:21:50,920
Speaker 8: at Bak of America as CEO.

2948
02:21:51,720 --> 02:21:54,680
Speaker 2: Like they like, I mean, I just like the dispairity

2949
02:21:54,720 --> 02:21:55,000
Speaker 2: of the night.

2950
02:21:55,040 --> 02:22:01,000
Speaker 9: It's like Rayshawan got Ernest to do this, right, to

2951
02:22:01,000 --> 02:22:01,760
Speaker 9: shoot the guy?

2952
02:22:02,160 --> 02:22:05,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was Ernest well into this is so nice.

2953
02:22:05,480 --> 02:22:08,160
Speaker 2: He was in the spiring barber before he got asked, dude,

2954
02:22:08,640 --> 02:22:10,199
Speaker 2: right and tattoo artists.

2955
02:22:10,200 --> 02:22:14,320
Speaker 8: Don't forget that both of Philadelphia wearing police custody before

2956
02:22:14,360 --> 02:22:15,599
Speaker 8: the warm sandwich.

2957
02:22:15,200 --> 02:22:18,200
Speaker 2: Had time enough to cool. At least he got sal long.

2958
02:22:18,560 --> 02:22:19,120
Speaker 2: Two women.

2959
02:22:19,200 --> 02:22:22,520
Speaker 8: You think they confiscated it foreverdence can Oh damn, They're

2960
02:22:22,520 --> 02:22:24,000
Speaker 8: not gonna gonna get another sandwich.

2961
02:22:25,360 --> 02:22:27,160
Speaker 2: Two men with them in the getaway car.

2962
02:22:27,280 --> 02:22:31,760
Speaker 8: Let's take fingerprints, you get my sandwich. Two men with like,

2963
02:22:31,840 --> 02:22:34,360
Speaker 8: just keep the rapper for the give me the sandwich.

2964
02:22:34,480 --> 02:22:38,279
Speaker 8: Keep two men with them in the getaway car. Andre

2965
02:22:38,640 --> 02:22:44,200
Speaker 8: Eric Graves Junior and Rainy Alexander Smith, also both of Philadelphia,

2966
02:22:44,280 --> 02:22:46,640
Speaker 8: were charged as well, he said, four niggas arrive.

2967
02:22:46,560 --> 02:22:50,920
Speaker 2: A thirty ye old of alf a sandwich a sandwich dog.

2968
02:22:50,879 --> 02:22:54,440
Speaker 8: Thirteen years old, at least get chips in a drink.

2969
02:22:54,480 --> 02:22:59,080
Speaker 2: Come on, dam you gotta combo that ship up, man. Yes.

2970
02:22:59,560 --> 02:23:02,160
Speaker 8: According to the court documents, the team had just bought

2971
02:23:02,160 --> 02:23:04,640
Speaker 8: his dinner at a nearby deli and was on his

2972
02:23:04,760 --> 02:23:08,200
Speaker 8: way home when two men exited a black four expedition

2973
02:23:08,280 --> 02:23:14,480
Speaker 8: and approached him. One of the men, later identified as Mallory,

2974
02:23:14,560 --> 02:23:18,680
Speaker 8: was brandishing a black revolver. Whatever you do, don't move,

2975
02:23:18,760 --> 02:23:21,879
Speaker 8: Mallory allegedly told the team. According to the Probable Calls

2976
02:23:21,879 --> 02:23:26,520
Speaker 8: After David, written by Detective Sergeant David explained, a second man,

2977
02:23:26,560 --> 02:23:29,480
Speaker 8: who was identified as Barnett, according to police search through

2978
02:23:29,480 --> 02:23:32,120
Speaker 8: the teen's pockets, if you do have if you do

2979
02:23:32,240 --> 02:23:36,400
Speaker 8: have anything out CATHU you that must he must say.

2980
02:23:36,320 --> 02:23:40,400
Speaker 2: Don't That's kind of a that's kind of a shitty choice,

2981
02:23:40,440 --> 02:23:42,880
Speaker 2: isn't it. That's like the robins.

2982
02:23:42,879 --> 02:23:45,680
Speaker 10: And you know what, I think that that I honestly

2983
02:23:45,760 --> 02:23:48,959
Speaker 10: think that they mistake this child for another child that

2984
02:23:49,040 --> 02:23:51,720
Speaker 10: they thought had money or thought was selling drugs.

2985
02:23:51,400 --> 02:23:54,880
Speaker 2: To sound just randomly robbed somebody for a subway sounds

2986
02:23:55,080 --> 02:23:57,080
Speaker 2: gold ain't worth it, No, not for the soundwich.

2987
02:23:57,120 --> 02:23:59,200
Speaker 8: They just robbing people, like, I don't think it's a

2988
02:23:59,800 --> 02:24:02,640
Speaker 8: we targeted this dude. It sounds like they just robbed

2989
02:24:02,640 --> 02:24:05,160
Speaker 8: the first motherfucker they saw that and he just happened

2990
02:24:05,160 --> 02:24:07,880
Speaker 8: to be the tired. Wasn't no r WP's around, so

2991
02:24:07,879 --> 02:24:10,039
Speaker 8: they set up on the thirteen yearf You.

2992
02:24:10,000 --> 02:24:12,280
Speaker 2: Look around and ain't nobody around? You run?

2993
02:24:12,800 --> 02:24:15,080
Speaker 8: Oh not if you don't have anything. It says if

2994
02:24:15,120 --> 02:24:19,360
Speaker 8: you do anything anything, I'm bare. If you do anything,

2995
02:24:19,480 --> 02:24:21,880
Speaker 8: I'll cap you. When the suspects realized the team had

2996
02:24:21,920 --> 02:24:25,279
Speaker 8: nothing to value, the police said, Mallory grabbed the victim sandwich.

2997
02:24:25,800 --> 02:24:27,279
Speaker 2: Malory and Barnett.

2998
02:24:26,879 --> 02:24:30,000
Speaker 8: Then ran back to the waiting ford, which was last

2999
02:24:30,000 --> 02:24:32,560
Speaker 8: scene fleeing south. Now I feel sorry for the two

3000
02:24:32,640 --> 02:24:35,680
Speaker 8: dudes waiting in the car, Yes too, because they were

3001
02:24:35,720 --> 02:24:37,800
Speaker 8: waiting there, like, how much did we get? We got

3002
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:41,480
Speaker 8: a sandwich? Nigga, I ain't going to prison for ten

3003
02:24:41,560 --> 02:24:43,000
Speaker 8: years because a sandwich.

3004
02:24:43,760 --> 02:24:46,840
Speaker 5: So they ran back to the waiting for it, which

3005
02:24:46,879 --> 02:24:50,240
Speaker 5: was last scene fleeing south on Bond South And they

3006
02:24:50,280 --> 02:24:52,720
Speaker 5: tell you where this fleeing car was going is if

3007
02:24:52,760 --> 02:24:55,160
Speaker 5: they didn't already catch the car right.

3008
02:24:57,040 --> 02:24:58,240
Speaker 2: See uh.

3009
02:24:58,400 --> 02:25:01,160
Speaker 8: The teen called police who were just fast to Orchard

3010
02:25:01,200 --> 02:25:04,959
Speaker 8: Avenue at six fifty eight pm on a reporter pedestrian robbery.

3011
02:25:05,240 --> 02:25:07,280
Speaker 8: In addition to a description of the subsect, the team

3012
02:25:07,320 --> 02:25:09,520
Speaker 8: provide a description of the vehicle patrol men.

3013
02:25:09,640 --> 02:25:11,320
Speaker 2: Latif Bryant was.

3014
02:25:11,280 --> 02:25:14,360
Speaker 8: In the area of Church Lane, just outside the police

3015
02:25:14,360 --> 02:25:16,879
Speaker 8: department when he saw a vehicle matched the description ocupied

3016
02:25:16,920 --> 02:25:19,360
Speaker 8: by four males. So you know how you rob people

3017
02:25:19,360 --> 02:25:21,360
Speaker 8: of a salwache? Do you drive out the police department?

3018
02:25:21,560 --> 02:25:27,040
Speaker 2: Why not? You know what? Minutes later this round? Yeah,

3019
02:25:27,120 --> 02:25:31,480
Speaker 2: you never catch me. Coppers make more attention to the

3020
02:25:31,560 --> 02:25:32,640
Speaker 2: vehicle than the old man.

3021
02:25:33,040 --> 02:25:36,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, well you didn't get raped by the that's a

3022
02:25:36,000 --> 02:25:38,959
Speaker 8: thirty eight caliber revolver was found in the vehicle along

3023
02:25:39,000 --> 02:25:40,160
Speaker 8: with the sandwich.

3024
02:25:42,520 --> 02:25:48,720
Speaker 2: Case. They probably still had the receipting bang case. Ever,

3025
02:25:50,080 --> 02:25:57,960
Speaker 2: you have to what a terrible way to go dressing sandwich?

3026
02:25:58,879 --> 02:26:02,039
Speaker 2: Oh ship, what you were in for? I stole a

3027
02:26:02,080 --> 02:26:03,959
Speaker 2: sandwich from a thirteen year So.

3028
02:26:04,080 --> 02:26:08,000
Speaker 9: These these guys are gonna have bloody asses in jail

3029
02:26:08,240 --> 02:26:10,480
Speaker 9: because they stole a sandwich.

3030
02:26:11,000 --> 02:26:12,959
Speaker 2: Yep. And I bet you weren't even a foot long.

3031
02:26:12,959 --> 02:26:16,760
Speaker 2: I bet it was a six inch vote.

3032
02:26:16,800 --> 02:26:19,840
Speaker 8: Mallory and Barnett were charging the robbery, theft and receiving

3033
02:26:19,879 --> 02:26:24,959
Speaker 8: stolen properly property, regularsly in danger another person, and simple assault.

3034
02:26:25,040 --> 02:26:29,080
Speaker 8: Mallory was additionally charged with making terroristic threats and firearms

3035
02:26:29,280 --> 02:26:32,000
Speaker 8: not yeah, and carrying a gun without a license.

3036
02:26:33,320 --> 02:26:35,640
Speaker 2: He wasn't playing that shit. He keeps it real for

3037
02:26:35,720 --> 02:26:36,320
Speaker 2: a sandwich.

3038
02:26:37,080 --> 02:26:40,600
Speaker 8: Grays and Smith are charged with criminal conspiracy to commit robbery.

3039
02:26:41,720 --> 02:26:44,119
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, man, it's just funny when you think about

3040
02:26:44,160 --> 02:26:48,640
Speaker 8: a sandwich, criminal conspiracy to commit robbery over a sandwich.

3041
02:26:48,840 --> 02:26:51,360
Speaker 2: I found out that fifty cent sandwich. It wasn't even

3042
02:26:51,400 --> 02:26:53,920
Speaker 2: a jerzy and night sandwich. The them shits is eight

3043
02:26:54,000 --> 02:26:56,400
Speaker 2: nine ten dollars. Yeah, it's like a deli.

3044
02:26:56,480 --> 02:26:58,840
Speaker 9: It's not even though real like, it's not like a

3045
02:26:58,879 --> 02:27:01,200
Speaker 9: sandwich shot like even a national chain.

3046
02:27:01,280 --> 02:27:04,560
Speaker 2: And these guys man, all right, now, I have one

3047
02:27:04,680 --> 02:27:06,480
Speaker 2: last story, and it may take us a second. I

3048
02:27:06,480 --> 02:27:06,840
Speaker 2: don't know.

3049
02:27:06,959 --> 02:27:09,080
Speaker 8: I haven't really thought about what to say on it.

3050
02:27:09,520 --> 02:27:12,840
Speaker 8: But it's a major story and it's the reason that

3051
02:27:12,959 --> 02:27:18,240
Speaker 8: Ryan Jones couldn't be here. Apparently at Penn State they.

3052
02:27:18,120 --> 02:27:22,160
Speaker 2: Got some problems. They got some problems and it goes

3053
02:27:22,200 --> 02:27:26,879
Speaker 2: all the way to the top. And I've read this article.

3054
02:27:26,640 --> 02:27:28,400
Speaker 8: Before and I try to summarize what I know, and

3055
02:27:28,440 --> 02:27:30,400
Speaker 8: if you guys are familiar with it, please correct me.

3056
02:27:31,000 --> 02:27:35,800
Speaker 8: But it looks like a graduate assistant went into the

3057
02:27:35,840 --> 02:27:38,199
Speaker 8: locker room on a day when it wasn't really supposed

3058
02:27:38,200 --> 02:27:40,360
Speaker 8: to be used and supposed to be empty. It was

3059
02:27:40,480 --> 02:27:44,560
Speaker 8: nine thirty at night, and he was surprised because he

3060
02:27:44,560 --> 02:27:48,640
Speaker 8: heard the showers running and he thought he heard somebody.

3061
02:27:48,320 --> 02:27:51,560
Speaker 2: Fucking, and he walked into the shower, walked by the.

3062
02:27:51,520 --> 02:27:57,080
Speaker 8: Shower area, and he saw Jerry Sardusky, who was fifty

3063
02:27:57,080 --> 02:27:59,840
Speaker 8: eight at the time, having sex with a ten year

3064
02:27:59,840 --> 02:28:03,039
Speaker 8: old oh boy in the in the shower in the

3065
02:28:03,040 --> 02:28:05,760
Speaker 8: locker room. Now, so that's at the time, was the

3066
02:28:05,800 --> 02:28:08,880
Speaker 8: former defensive coordinator. I guess he still is, but just

3067
02:28:08,879 --> 02:28:10,959
Speaker 8: saying he wasn't working at Pitts State at the time,

3068
02:28:11,520 --> 02:28:13,520
Speaker 8: and it looks like he was running some sort of

3069
02:28:14,480 --> 02:28:16,640
Speaker 8: program where he would bring these kids by the.

3070
02:28:16,600 --> 02:28:19,360
Speaker 2: Locker room every once in a while, supposedly, you know.

3071
02:28:19,400 --> 02:28:22,600
Speaker 8: Like motivate them and you know, help these kids, I

3072
02:28:22,600 --> 02:28:26,760
Speaker 8: guess play back, play football or whatever, help at risk.

3073
02:28:26,600 --> 02:28:28,000
Speaker 2: You shit like that.

3074
02:28:28,600 --> 02:28:31,600
Speaker 8: And he was bringing them by and having sex with him.

3075
02:28:31,680 --> 02:28:35,480
Speaker 8: And so the grad assistant, when he found out, he

3076
02:28:35,560 --> 02:28:38,240
Speaker 8: called he ran to his office and called his father,

3077
02:28:39,200 --> 02:28:41,320
Speaker 8: and his father told his son, Hey, get the fuck

3078
02:28:41,320 --> 02:28:41,640
Speaker 8: out of that.

3079
02:28:43,080 --> 02:28:46,800
Speaker 2: Now, that's failed number one for me, Like, come on, Dald,

3080
02:28:46,879 --> 02:28:50,080
Speaker 2: call the cops. Is that really a moral Like?

3081
02:28:51,040 --> 02:28:53,200
Speaker 8: Is there really any leeway to be given in that

3082
02:28:53,280 --> 02:28:54,520
Speaker 8: situation morally?

3083
02:28:54,600 --> 02:28:57,280
Speaker 2: Like? No, I honestly can't think of a situation where

3084
02:28:57,280 --> 02:29:00,480
Speaker 2: I can see some dude, a fucking six year old.

3085
02:29:00,160 --> 02:29:02,640
Speaker 8: Man having sex with a ten year old A go, uh,

3086
02:29:02,720 --> 02:29:05,199
Speaker 8: you know what, don't that's reasonable?

3087
02:29:05,920 --> 02:29:09,560
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So I don't know. Oh,

3088
02:29:09,560 --> 02:29:16,680
Speaker 2: did we lose Morgan? Yeah, okay, it's about I couldn't

3089
02:29:16,680 --> 02:29:20,039
Speaker 2: hear you. Okay, Okay, Well I don't know where you

3090
02:29:20,080 --> 02:29:20,760
Speaker 2: dropped off at.

3091
02:29:20,760 --> 02:29:24,960
Speaker 8: But basically, the grad assistant went back to his office

3092
02:29:25,760 --> 02:29:27,600
Speaker 8: and his father told him to leave, and he didn't

3093
02:29:27,640 --> 02:29:31,280
Speaker 8: call the cops. Now, stop right there first. Don't y'all

3094
02:29:31,280 --> 02:29:32,960
Speaker 8: find that to be a failure right away?

3095
02:29:33,040 --> 02:29:33,960
Speaker 2: Like? Why do when you call it?

3096
02:29:34,120 --> 02:29:36,879
Speaker 8: Like, is there any situation where you can see that

3097
02:29:37,080 --> 02:29:39,080
Speaker 8: happening and think it's okay?

3098
02:29:39,200 --> 02:29:42,760
Speaker 2: And I shouldn't call the cop? No? And I think

3099
02:29:42,840 --> 02:29:44,199
Speaker 2: that when he was in there.

3100
02:29:44,879 --> 02:29:46,879
Speaker 8: This should have been an up and shut case that

3101
02:29:46,959 --> 02:29:49,440
Speaker 8: had been like, yeah, a teacher assistance, whoever he is,

3102
02:29:50,000 --> 02:29:52,600
Speaker 8: is charged for assaulting a fifty eight year old man

3103
02:29:52,640 --> 02:29:54,360
Speaker 8: butt naggd while the shower is running.

3104
02:29:54,480 --> 02:29:57,160
Speaker 2: You got it all backwards. But wouldn't he butt naked

3105
02:29:57,160 --> 02:30:01,519
Speaker 2: with no? No, no, no, oh, y'all know exactly.

3106
02:30:01,120 --> 02:30:03,600
Speaker 8: What you if you can't, grad.

3107
02:30:03,400 --> 02:30:05,840
Speaker 2: Assistant should have beat this old man up? Yes, and

3108
02:30:06,440 --> 02:30:08,160
Speaker 2: please And the police.

3109
02:30:07,800 --> 02:30:10,640
Speaker 8: When I came, he charged me for beating up an

3110
02:30:10,640 --> 02:30:12,840
Speaker 8: old man buck nagger in the shower with a kid

3111
02:30:13,160 --> 02:30:14,000
Speaker 8: open his case.

3112
02:30:14,080 --> 02:30:16,480
Speaker 2: Yea, when you said assault, I thought you'd been sexually assault.

3113
02:30:16,520 --> 02:30:18,320
Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, no one was sucking the

3114
02:30:18,400 --> 02:30:18,880
Speaker 2: old man.

3115
02:30:19,280 --> 02:30:21,600
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, treating old man's ass. Old man

3116
02:30:21,800 --> 02:30:24,040
Speaker 8: have been stretched out in the shower. I covered him

3117
02:30:24,080 --> 02:30:27,480
Speaker 8: up with a towel for deignancy. And this whole case

3118
02:30:27,520 --> 02:30:29,320
Speaker 8: with it went no further than that. I'm not going

3119
02:30:29,360 --> 02:30:31,360
Speaker 8: away and con the police. And I see you assaulting

3120
02:30:31,360 --> 02:30:34,160
Speaker 8: a child. Well, I mean the thing is like, even

3121
02:30:34,160 --> 02:30:36,879
Speaker 8: if you just call the cops, that's the minimum, right

3122
02:30:37,040 --> 02:30:38,759
Speaker 8: minimum minimum.

3123
02:30:38,480 --> 02:30:39,800
Speaker 2: You call the cops, it goes.

3124
02:30:40,760 --> 02:30:43,960
Speaker 8: It should be here and apparently he was like a

3125
02:30:43,959 --> 02:30:47,920
Speaker 8: friend of the program. So if anything, that really should

3126
02:30:47,959 --> 02:30:50,760
Speaker 8: tell you a lot about college sports. Yes, that right

3127
02:30:50,800 --> 02:30:52,800
Speaker 8: there in the nutshells to tell you everything you need

3128
02:30:52,840 --> 02:30:55,920
Speaker 8: to know about college big town sports. The fact that

3129
02:30:56,600 --> 02:31:00,200
Speaker 8: anyone would have to think about this situation and the

3130
02:31:00,280 --> 02:31:04,520
Speaker 8: decision would be I should just not say anything at

3131
02:31:04,520 --> 02:31:06,440
Speaker 8: the time and see how this plays out.

3132
02:31:07,680 --> 02:31:09,400
Speaker 2: Hey, let me get your thoughts right there. I'll just

3133
02:31:09,400 --> 02:31:12,080
Speaker 2: stop right there, Chris, what do you think so far? Man?

3134
02:31:12,360 --> 02:31:14,520
Speaker 9: I like to think that I would have called the

3135
02:31:14,600 --> 02:31:17,039
Speaker 9: cops or did like Karen would have like jumped on

3136
02:31:17,120 --> 02:31:20,000
Speaker 9: the dude, because that's something that that guy, that grad

3137
02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:21,959
Speaker 9: student is going to have to live with that, you know,

3138
02:31:22,280 --> 02:31:23,119
Speaker 9: he eventually just.

3139
02:31:23,080 --> 02:31:26,039
Speaker 2: Saying he eventually told the turnout. He told him the

3140
02:31:26,040 --> 02:31:27,640
Speaker 2: next day. Yeah, we get that.

3141
02:31:28,160 --> 02:31:30,320
Speaker 9: It just plays It's just like you said, as you're

3142
02:31:30,360 --> 02:31:32,879
Speaker 9: alluding to the fact that college sports is this big

3143
02:31:32,920 --> 02:31:38,640
Speaker 9: institution and it's all about keeping those cars moving and

3144
02:31:39,280 --> 02:31:41,080
Speaker 9: I can and that maybe that's why there was some

3145
02:31:41,200 --> 02:31:44,320
Speaker 9: trepidation in that grad student's head. You know, that's probably

3146
02:31:44,360 --> 02:31:46,120
Speaker 9: why it is that what should I do? And his

3147
02:31:46,200 --> 02:31:47,240
Speaker 9: dad's like, get the fuck out.

3148
02:31:47,280 --> 02:31:50,200
Speaker 2: This is in state. You know, right, that's sad man.

3149
02:31:50,200 --> 02:31:55,520
Speaker 2: What about you, Maury, what'd you think so far? Yeah,

3150
02:31:55,560 --> 02:31:57,280
Speaker 2: there's so many layers to this one.

3151
02:31:57,560 --> 02:32:02,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess it's very It's it's instructive to watch

3152
02:32:02,080 --> 02:32:11,840
Speaker 5: this guy's reaction because he can't immediately, he can't immediately

3153
02:32:12,000 --> 02:32:15,160
Speaker 5: make the moral decision that most of us would make reflexively,

3154
02:32:15,160 --> 02:32:16,959
Speaker 5: which is either to call the police or again.

3155
02:32:16,800 --> 02:32:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, to intervene.

3156
02:32:18,400 --> 02:32:21,040
Speaker 5: Right Like, his allegiance to the program and allegiance to

3157
02:32:21,080 --> 02:32:23,680
Speaker 5: this former coach is such that it takes a.

3158
02:32:23,760 --> 02:32:26,080
Speaker 2: While to figure out what he's got to do. And then,

3159
02:32:26,560 --> 02:32:28,520
Speaker 2: you know, and he makes the decision that seems like

3160
02:32:28,560 --> 02:32:29,280
Speaker 2: a compromise.

3161
02:32:29,520 --> 02:32:32,720
Speaker 5: So he doesn't go and it's a comfortable compromise, I

3162
02:32:32,760 --> 02:32:35,160
Speaker 5: guess for him, right Like, he doesn't go to the police.

3163
02:32:35,160 --> 02:32:38,800
Speaker 5: He goes to an authority figure, you know, to to

3164
02:32:39,240 --> 02:32:42,320
Speaker 5: the athletic director, whoever it is. But he doesn't go

3165
02:32:42,360 --> 02:32:45,360
Speaker 5: to the police, right, So he passes the buck to

3166
02:32:45,360 --> 02:32:47,680
Speaker 5: the athletic director and says, okay, well, I trust them

3167
02:32:47,720 --> 02:32:48,360
Speaker 5: to take care of this.

3168
02:32:49,000 --> 02:32:52,760
Speaker 2: That way, you know, my conscience is eased.

3169
02:32:53,120 --> 02:32:55,680
Speaker 5: I don't feel like I've held this big secret, you know,

3170
02:32:55,720 --> 02:32:58,920
Speaker 5: and endanger these children. I can tell myself, you know

3171
02:32:58,959 --> 02:33:02,320
Speaker 5: that I did something helped him out. But at the

3172
02:33:02,320 --> 02:33:04,800
Speaker 5: same time he does the thing that isn't gonna that

3173
02:33:04,920 --> 02:33:09,760
Speaker 5: that's gonna keep keep Sandusky, you know, from facing any

3174
02:33:09,760 --> 02:33:10,400
Speaker 5: real justice.

3175
02:33:10,400 --> 02:33:11,600
Speaker 2: So it's it's he.

3176
02:33:11,520 --> 02:33:13,560
Speaker 5: Makes a compromise that I guess he was comfortable with

3177
02:33:13,800 --> 02:33:15,959
Speaker 5: at the time. I don't know if he's that comfortable.

3178
02:33:15,600 --> 02:33:16,240
Speaker 2: With it right now.

3179
02:33:16,320 --> 02:33:20,200
Speaker 5: It's amazing to me, you know, if paternal knew about it,

3180
02:33:20,240 --> 02:33:22,920
Speaker 5: and paternal claims to you know, well.

3181
02:33:22,800 --> 02:33:25,080
Speaker 8: We'll get more into the gold how it went up

3182
02:33:25,120 --> 02:33:27,800
Speaker 8: to chain in a second. But yeah, starting right there

3183
02:33:27,840 --> 02:33:30,280
Speaker 8: at ground one, this shouldn't have been a story like

3184
02:33:30,360 --> 02:33:31,760
Speaker 8: the story like you can a.

3185
02:33:31,760 --> 02:33:33,640
Speaker 2: Program I think can live through.

3186
02:33:34,440 --> 02:33:37,680
Speaker 8: Hey, this dude was a trusted friend and he was

3187
02:33:37,720 --> 02:33:42,640
Speaker 8: abusing his power and his influence with our program, and

3188
02:33:42,720 --> 02:33:44,560
Speaker 8: we got his ass the fuck out of here because

3189
02:33:44,560 --> 02:33:47,040
Speaker 8: we have a zero tolerance policy for that, and now

3190
02:33:47,040 --> 02:33:51,359
Speaker 8: he's in prisoned. That I think that story goes away eventually,

3191
02:33:51,720 --> 02:33:53,800
Speaker 8: and if nothing else, it makes it look like you.

3192
02:33:53,720 --> 02:33:57,240
Speaker 2: Give a fuck this story, does it? This story stays forever.

3193
02:33:58,080 --> 02:34:00,800
Speaker 8: The next day, a Saturday, apparently the gratit student went

3194
02:34:00,800 --> 02:34:03,160
Speaker 8: to the home of Joe Paterno and told him what

3195
02:34:03,240 --> 02:34:07,000
Speaker 8: he saw. The day after that, Paternal called Penn State

3196
02:34:07,080 --> 02:34:09,959
Speaker 8: Athletic Director Tim Curley to his home to.

3197
02:34:09,959 --> 02:34:13,160
Speaker 2: Report that the grad assist that had told him what

3198
02:34:13,280 --> 02:34:16,840
Speaker 2: he told him he witnessed. And he said, what Paternal

3199
02:34:16,879 --> 02:34:19,480
Speaker 2: told Curly was.

3200
02:34:19,480 --> 02:34:24,160
Speaker 8: That Jerry said Dusky was in Lash Building shower in

3201
02:34:24,200 --> 02:34:27,560
Speaker 8: the Lash Building showers fondling or doing something of a

3202
02:34:27,600 --> 02:34:28,560
Speaker 8: sexual nature to.

3203
02:34:28,520 --> 02:34:33,000
Speaker 2: A young boy. So even he downgraded it a little bit.

3204
02:34:33,959 --> 02:34:35,920
Speaker 2: And it's like a game of telephone because by the

3205
02:34:35,920 --> 02:34:37,240
Speaker 2: time we get to the end, it's.

3206
02:34:37,080 --> 02:34:41,560
Speaker 8: Like he was wrestling and shit like so man, So

3207
02:34:41,720 --> 02:34:46,000
Speaker 8: apparently right there, that's step two. Joe part could have

3208
02:34:46,080 --> 02:34:48,760
Speaker 8: ended this shit, could have called the cops. Also, why

3209
02:34:48,760 --> 02:34:50,960
Speaker 8: did it take him a day to talk to the

3210
02:34:51,040 --> 02:34:52,800
Speaker 8: athletic director, you.

3211
02:34:52,680 --> 02:34:54,920
Speaker 2: Know what I mean? Like just like another like one

3212
02:34:54,959 --> 02:34:57,120
Speaker 2: of those How important was this thing?

3213
02:34:58,040 --> 02:34:59,920
Speaker 8: A week and a half later, according to the Great

3214
02:35:00,120 --> 02:35:02,960
Speaker 8: Jeordy Report, the grad assistant was called to a meeting

3215
02:35:03,000 --> 02:35:06,600
Speaker 8: with Curly and Gary Schultz, the school senior vice president

3216
02:35:06,680 --> 02:35:08,199
Speaker 8: for finance and business.

3217
02:35:09,080 --> 02:35:14,240
Speaker 2: Being this bing bing ban the money, money, don't get

3218
02:35:14,240 --> 02:35:18,360
Speaker 2: the money. We need to talk, said Dusky.

3219
02:35:18,440 --> 02:35:21,960
Speaker 8: Have retired from Penn State in nineteen ninety nine.

3220
02:35:22,640 --> 02:35:24,880
Speaker 2: I remember just happened in two thousand and two, so

3221
02:35:25,080 --> 02:35:26,880
Speaker 2: this is three years after he retired.

3222
02:35:27,280 --> 02:35:30,000
Speaker 8: As surprise to many who saw him as a possible

3223
02:35:30,000 --> 02:35:34,000
Speaker 8: successor to Paterno, he instead dedicated himself to Second Mile,

3224
02:35:34,400 --> 02:35:36,760
Speaker 8: a group home that he founded.

3225
02:35:36,440 --> 02:35:38,519
Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy seven, dedicated.

3226
02:35:38,080 --> 02:35:41,039
Speaker 8: They're helping trouble boys, which if that shit doesn't make

3227
02:35:41,080 --> 02:35:44,400
Speaker 8: it skin car right, yeah, yeah, because it's just like,

3228
02:35:44,520 --> 02:35:45,240
Speaker 8: how long have.

3229
02:35:45,280 --> 02:35:45,920
Speaker 2: You been doing this?

3230
02:35:46,120 --> 02:35:50,720
Speaker 8: Yes, he had access to when I'm thirty two, he's

3231
02:35:50,840 --> 02:35:52,240
Speaker 8: done this for thirty four years.

3232
02:35:52,480 --> 02:35:52,680
Speaker 2: Yes.

3233
02:35:53,680 --> 02:35:56,080
Speaker 5: Well, and also if he is doing this to people

3234
02:35:56,120 --> 02:35:58,800
Speaker 5: in the Penn State locker room, you have to you

3235
02:35:58,800 --> 02:36:01,720
Speaker 5: can only imagine what he was doing the people right

3236
02:36:02,200 --> 02:36:04,680
Speaker 5: in Stacey that he owed it, you know, yeah, you

3237
02:36:04,720 --> 02:36:05,920
Speaker 5: felt even more comfortable.

3238
02:36:06,600 --> 02:36:06,720
Speaker 2: Uh.

3239
02:36:06,800 --> 02:36:10,080
Speaker 8: He even brought trouble kids through Penn State facilities, including

3240
02:36:10,560 --> 02:36:14,000
Speaker 8: the Fame Beaver Stadium, bought them gifts, and took them

3241
02:36:14,040 --> 02:36:18,120
Speaker 8: to sporting events. Curly did not notify university police or

3242
02:36:18,520 --> 02:36:21,879
Speaker 8: have a graduate assistant further question involving the incident. No

3243
02:36:22,040 --> 02:36:27,720
Speaker 8: other legal or university incident entity was investigated, or no

3244
02:36:27,840 --> 02:36:32,520
Speaker 8: other university entity investigated the case. So basically it stopped there.

3245
02:36:32,760 --> 02:36:34,800
Speaker 10: And the and the problem that I have is this,

3246
02:36:36,400 --> 02:36:39,520
Speaker 10: even if which is still sick, and even if you

3247
02:36:39,520 --> 02:36:42,800
Speaker 10: didn't call the police police, at least if you'd have

3248
02:36:42,800 --> 02:36:45,240
Speaker 10: told the university police, it would eventually got to.

3249
02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:51,320
Speaker 8: The real police, which would have kind of alleviated the responsibility. Well,

3250
02:36:51,400 --> 02:36:53,320
Speaker 8: it happened on our campus, we felt like we need

3251
02:36:53,320 --> 02:36:56,000
Speaker 8: to tell our university police first. And then if they

3252
02:36:56,000 --> 02:36:58,080
Speaker 8: felt like they should have went to the police, and

3253
02:36:58,240 --> 02:37:01,080
Speaker 8: Leeds at a seam you cared.

3254
02:37:01,040 --> 02:37:03,840
Speaker 2: And well, university police are real cops. Yes they are.

3255
02:37:03,920 --> 02:37:06,160
Speaker 2: So it's not like Brenda. They would fucking go there

3256
02:37:06,160 --> 02:37:08,800
Speaker 2: and arrest that dude or whatever he came in and

3257
02:37:08,840 --> 02:37:09,640
Speaker 2: they should have it.

3258
02:37:09,680 --> 02:37:12,800
Speaker 8: And not to get off topic, if you do this

3259
02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:16,119
Speaker 8: for this particular case like this, this is why when

3260
02:37:16,160 --> 02:37:18,320
Speaker 8: people come and say a lot of these y'all's universes

3261
02:37:18,360 --> 02:37:21,800
Speaker 8: don't take rape like female and date rape seriously, this

3262
02:37:21,879 --> 02:37:24,240
Speaker 8: is this makes you say, Okay, y'all really don't give

3263
02:37:24,240 --> 02:37:26,240
Speaker 8: a fuck because y'all let this old man do this.

3264
02:37:26,320 --> 02:37:29,440
Speaker 8: So how many legitimate rate cases a drug rate, a

3265
02:37:29,560 --> 02:37:32,520
Speaker 8: drug you know, doping cases have came and y'all did

3266
02:37:32,520 --> 02:37:36,040
Speaker 8: the same thing. So apparently they didn't tell the police

3267
02:37:36,040 --> 02:37:41,280
Speaker 8: all right, they didn't investigate any further so, and it

3268
02:37:41,280 --> 02:37:44,880
Speaker 8: would have helped because apparently he was investigated in nineteen

3269
02:37:44,959 --> 02:37:49,880
Speaker 8: ninety eight for infidence with children in football building showers,

3270
02:37:50,520 --> 02:37:53,680
Speaker 8: So this is like the exact crime that he was committing.

3271
02:37:54,160 --> 02:37:57,400
Speaker 8: He was investigated for doing it, and they never even

3272
02:37:57,480 --> 02:38:00,720
Speaker 8: did like a background check or anything. They just completely

3273
02:38:01,280 --> 02:38:05,000
Speaker 8: wanted to get rid of this. Curly, his dad took

3274
02:38:05,040 --> 02:38:07,640
Speaker 8: it upon himself to inform the director of Second Mile

3275
02:38:07,720 --> 02:38:12,199
Speaker 8: about the change the charge although it didn't concern uh,

3276
02:38:12,320 --> 02:38:14,560
Speaker 8: it didn't concern potential side of me of a minor.

3277
02:38:15,120 --> 02:38:21,560
Speaker 2: So basically he told Curly that, hey, I mean, I'm sorry.

3278
02:38:21,640 --> 02:38:27,760
Speaker 8: Curly told the molester Sardusky, Hey, dog, I know about

3279
02:38:27,760 --> 02:38:28,160
Speaker 8: this ship.

3280
02:38:29,560 --> 02:38:31,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave out the child rape ship. But chill,

3281
02:38:32,440 --> 02:38:33,400
Speaker 2: and Curly.

3282
02:38:33,080 --> 02:38:35,400
Speaker 8: Told the grad jury that he was merely told that

3283
02:38:35,480 --> 02:38:40,599
Speaker 8: he was merely told that Sarduski was Sandusky was horsing.

3284
02:38:40,240 --> 02:38:44,199
Speaker 2: Around with the boy in the shower. But nagga, okay,

3285
02:38:44,280 --> 02:38:46,520
Speaker 2: what kind of horse play like that? That's what that's

3286
02:38:46,520 --> 02:38:47,000
Speaker 2: what we do.

3287
02:38:47,120 --> 02:38:51,480
Speaker 8: Nobody horse plays like that, dog, And if so, why

3288
02:38:51,480 --> 02:38:54,879
Speaker 8: would the grad assistant come tell you that, like you

3289
02:38:54,959 --> 02:38:58,640
Speaker 8: had a meeting with the fucking Finance and Business president

3290
02:38:58,760 --> 02:39:02,879
Speaker 8: vice president to say, uh, somebody was forcing around.

3291
02:39:03,480 --> 02:39:04,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't even make sense.

3292
02:39:04,760 --> 02:39:07,040
Speaker 10: You're dealing with the people about money, so they think

3293
02:39:07,080 --> 02:39:08,279
Speaker 10: of potential lawsuits.

3294
02:39:09,160 --> 02:39:12,600
Speaker 2: Let's see, uh, and you and you would think any

3295
02:39:12,800 --> 02:39:15,439
Speaker 2: like and maybe I just don't know, but god damn.

3296
02:39:15,280 --> 02:39:18,840
Speaker 8: Any liability lawyer would be like, our liability is much

3297
02:39:18,920 --> 02:39:21,160
Speaker 8: higher if we lie.

3298
02:39:21,400 --> 02:39:25,040
Speaker 2: We're now complicit in a fucking crime. Yes, And it

3299
02:39:25,240 --> 02:39:26,720
Speaker 2: just seems so stupid.

3300
02:39:26,879 --> 02:39:31,080
Speaker 10: I don't understand who smart idea it was to continue

3301
02:39:31,120 --> 02:39:35,279
Speaker 10: to do this. It's like to me, no, nobody, nobody

3302
02:39:35,320 --> 02:39:38,080
Speaker 10: had enough common sense to say, we need to tell

3303
02:39:38,160 --> 02:39:41,119
Speaker 10: somebody because the longer we let this sit, the longer

3304
02:39:41,160 --> 02:39:43,960
Speaker 10: we let this ste the more lawsuits we have. And

3305
02:39:44,000 --> 02:39:46,280
Speaker 10: I promise you this little boy ain't the only one.

3306
02:39:46,440 --> 02:39:48,520
Speaker 10: It's gonna be other children that's getting ready to come

3307
02:39:48,520 --> 02:39:51,280
Speaker 10: out in the closet and tell they get ready to

3308
02:39:51,280 --> 02:39:53,520
Speaker 10: get sued the pants off of them.

3309
02:39:54,280 --> 02:40:01,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, of course senes So Schultz.

3310
02:40:02,280 --> 02:40:05,600
Speaker 8: Said that he got the impression that that shows as

3311
02:40:05,600 --> 02:40:08,920
Speaker 8: the business guy for people keeping track, Sandusky might have

3312
02:40:09,000 --> 02:40:13,400
Speaker 8: inappropriately grabbed the young boys Jenito's while wrestling around in

3313
02:40:13,480 --> 02:40:17,040
Speaker 8: the shower. Yeah while black nagging, and that's still inappropriate.

3314
02:40:17,120 --> 02:40:19,800
Speaker 8: Both Curly and Shows are charged with perjury for claiming

3315
02:40:19,800 --> 02:40:24,400
Speaker 8: the gratitus that didn't inform them of sexual activity. Curly

3316
02:40:24,480 --> 02:40:27,160
Speaker 8: later met with Sandusky and told him he was no

3317
02:40:27,240 --> 02:40:31,360
Speaker 8: longer allowed to bring children onto Penn State campus. Now

3318
02:40:31,480 --> 02:40:36,800
Speaker 8: right there, you're admitting you fucking know, hey, hey, the

3319
02:40:36,840 --> 02:40:38,280
Speaker 8: fuck off our campus with this ship.

3320
02:40:38,360 --> 02:40:41,520
Speaker 5: Everybody's looking for the compromise, right that allows them to

3321
02:40:42,000 --> 02:40:45,760
Speaker 5: feel comfortable about and allows them to convince themselves that

3322
02:40:45,760 --> 02:40:50,680
Speaker 5: they've done the right thing without actually caused without without

3323
02:40:50,720 --> 02:40:55,080
Speaker 5: actually having caused Sandusky any inconvenience, because for whatever, everybody's

3324
02:40:55,080 --> 02:40:56,760
Speaker 5: concerned about what he feels when you can.

3325
02:40:56,640 --> 02:40:58,039
Speaker 2: Fuck them but not here.

3326
02:40:58,680 --> 02:41:00,959
Speaker 8: That's basically what they said, like, Yeah, we don't mind

3327
02:41:00,959 --> 02:41:03,360
Speaker 8: you doing being a child rapist, but keep it off

3328
02:41:03,360 --> 02:41:07,240
Speaker 8: of Ping State, all right. So Curly, you know, after

3329
02:41:07,280 --> 02:41:10,760
Speaker 8: he met with him, he forwarded the report to university

3330
02:41:10,800 --> 02:41:14,840
Speaker 8: president Graham Spaniard, who approved of Sardusky's band from bringing

3331
02:41:14,920 --> 02:41:18,600
Speaker 8: children on the campus and himself never reported the incident

3332
02:41:18,640 --> 02:41:21,080
Speaker 8: to the police, So even he thought it was cool

3333
02:41:21,560 --> 02:41:24,640
Speaker 8: on the base of the grand jury finance. Sandusky was

3334
02:41:24,840 --> 02:41:28,560
Speaker 8: arrested Saturday morning and charged his seven counts of involuntary

3335
02:41:28,600 --> 02:41:33,280
Speaker 8: deviate sexual intercourse, eight council corruption of minors, eight counts

3336
02:41:33,320 --> 02:41:35,800
Speaker 8: of endangering the welfare of a child, seven counts of

3337
02:41:35,800 --> 02:41:39,200
Speaker 8: indecent assaults, and other offenses. He was released Saturday on

3338
02:41:39,200 --> 02:41:41,879
Speaker 8: one hundred thousand dollars bail, so he got some dough

3339
02:41:42,280 --> 02:41:49,520
Speaker 8: to get out. Pennsylvania Attorney Generals Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania's Attorney General

3340
02:41:49,680 --> 02:41:52,959
Speaker 8: site of incidents involving seen Dusky that ran from nineteen

3341
02:41:53,000 --> 02:41:56,480
Speaker 8: ninety four to two thousand and nine, including the above act.

3342
02:41:58,080 --> 02:42:02,000
Speaker 8: Curly and schultzar respected to turn himselves and uh turn

3343
02:42:02,080 --> 02:42:05,560
Speaker 8: these to for both men release some statements proclaiming that innocence.

3344
02:42:06,320 --> 02:42:10,959
Speaker 8: I mean, come on, come on, why did you tell

3345
02:42:11,160 --> 02:42:11,880
Speaker 8: down don't campus?

3346
02:42:11,920 --> 02:42:14,920
Speaker 2: Why did you if it's just horsing around? Why are

3347
02:42:14,920 --> 02:42:18,520
Speaker 2: you having a meeting? Why are you like really come on, man,

3348
02:42:18,560 --> 02:42:21,120
Speaker 2: this is some mona stick to your lives ship right here.

3349
02:42:21,120 --> 02:42:23,280
Speaker 2: You're just like we done made this one line. We

3350
02:42:23,360 --> 02:42:26,760
Speaker 2: fight on that line, Yes exactly, Charles, Yes.

3351
02:42:27,920 --> 02:42:31,160
Speaker 8: Until we forced to say otherwise, Sorry, until we forced

3352
02:42:31,200 --> 02:42:32,080
Speaker 8: to say otherwise.

3353
02:42:32,400 --> 02:42:34,600
Speaker 10: That's what we're gonna do we said it with sticking

3354
02:42:34,640 --> 02:42:36,840
Speaker 10: to it. And the thing is that they're gonna ride

3355
02:42:36,879 --> 02:42:39,439
Speaker 10: these dudes for a while. Then they're gonna plead no contest,

3356
02:42:39,560 --> 02:42:42,160
Speaker 10: to plead something, and they're gonna smack them a fine

3357
02:42:42,760 --> 02:42:44,680
Speaker 10: or community service or year two in jail.

3358
02:42:44,680 --> 02:42:47,680
Speaker 2: They're gonna call them a day and yeah, go ahead.

3359
02:42:47,879 --> 02:42:50,560
Speaker 9: And some people, you know, Jim Trussell lost his job

3360
02:42:50,680 --> 02:42:53,760
Speaker 9: for not talking about tattoos.

3361
02:42:53,480 --> 02:42:56,720
Speaker 5: Right, But because there's there's a perception that old people

3362
02:42:56,720 --> 02:42:59,000
Speaker 5: can't be assholes and old people can't be crooked like

3363
02:42:59,240 --> 02:43:03,440
Speaker 5: every old person and that you see that old couple

3364
02:43:03,560 --> 02:43:05,640
Speaker 5: you see on the street and you think, oh, they're

3365
02:43:05,640 --> 02:43:06,800
Speaker 5: so cute, they're old.

3366
02:43:06,879 --> 02:43:09,920
Speaker 2: Listen, when that guy was fifty years ago, that guy

3367
02:43:10,000 --> 02:43:11,400
Speaker 2: was an asshole, you would have been able to put

3368
02:43:11,440 --> 02:43:12,840
Speaker 2: up with them. Or that guy was cooking, that guy

3369
02:43:12,879 --> 02:43:15,480
Speaker 2: was trying wife doing whatever. Right, So Joe PA's like, oh,

3370
02:43:15,640 --> 02:43:16,280
Speaker 2: he's cute.

3371
02:43:16,320 --> 02:43:19,080
Speaker 5: Fuzzy little Joe Pa can't walk now has to coach

3372
02:43:19,120 --> 02:43:20,560
Speaker 5: game from the press box.

3373
02:43:20,959 --> 02:43:22,200
Speaker 2: But he knew what he was doing too.

3374
02:43:22,200 --> 02:43:24,320
Speaker 5: Because this is what this is what really bothers me

3375
02:43:24,320 --> 02:43:26,680
Speaker 5: about college football coaches and college basketball coaches to to

3376
02:43:26,720 --> 02:43:27,680
Speaker 5: a certain extent.

3377
02:43:27,640 --> 02:43:30,359
Speaker 2: But because these guys positions position.

3378
02:43:30,080 --> 02:43:33,080
Speaker 5: Themselves not only as leaders of the football team, but

3379
02:43:33,280 --> 02:43:37,480
Speaker 5: as like, uh, you know, like the moral touchstone for

3380
02:43:37,520 --> 02:43:40,280
Speaker 5: the university community. And they talk all this, all this

3381
02:43:40,360 --> 02:43:44,040
Speaker 5: big talk about you know, setting examples of manhood and

3382
02:43:44,400 --> 02:43:45,959
Speaker 5: raising these boys, and I treat them.

3383
02:43:45,800 --> 02:43:46,440
Speaker 2: All like my own.

3384
02:43:46,480 --> 02:43:50,600
Speaker 5: And again I'm not just the coach. I'm the example setter,

3385
02:43:51,320 --> 02:43:54,680
Speaker 5: the moral example setter, even though like time and again,

3386
02:43:55,480 --> 02:43:57,960
Speaker 5: a lot of these cats are are proving to be frauds.

3387
02:43:57,959 --> 02:44:00,439
Speaker 5: Like look at Bill McCartney, like the leader of the

3388
02:44:00,440 --> 02:44:03,080
Speaker 5: the promise Keeper's movement, you know, and he built his

3389
02:44:03,160 --> 02:44:07,480
Speaker 5: team at University of Colorado by recruiting gang members from

3390
02:44:07,560 --> 02:44:09,600
Speaker 5: la and kind of and playing on these like gang

3391
02:44:09,640 --> 02:44:12,000
Speaker 5: affiliations to recruit certain guys over other guys, you know

3392
02:44:12,040 --> 02:44:13,640
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like he was not afraid to get

3393
02:44:13,920 --> 02:44:15,879
Speaker 5: down and dirty with it if he thought that that.

3394
02:44:15,920 --> 02:44:18,560
Speaker 2: Was what was gonna get a top flight recruit to

3395
02:44:18,600 --> 02:44:18,920
Speaker 2: his school.

3396
02:44:18,920 --> 02:44:21,440
Speaker 5: And now Joe Pond in this case, again, for whatever reason,

3397
02:44:21,480 --> 02:44:24,560
Speaker 5: these guys are really concerned about Sandusky's feelings. But you

3398
02:44:24,600 --> 02:44:28,560
Speaker 5: would think, you know, everybody's father and his name is

3399
02:44:28,560 --> 02:44:32,160
Speaker 5: even paternal for God's sakes, you would think at.

3400
02:44:32,000 --> 02:44:33,760
Speaker 2: Some point he would have said, Hey, what what what

3401
02:44:33,920 --> 02:44:38,560
Speaker 2: what happened with those sexual assault allegations at our school?

3402
02:44:38,560 --> 02:44:40,040
Speaker 2: Did anything ever come of that?

3403
02:44:40,160 --> 02:44:42,879
Speaker 5: Like, but people again just kind of make themselves comfortable

3404
02:44:42,920 --> 02:44:45,160
Speaker 5: with this compromise and think the problem is going to

3405
02:44:45,240 --> 02:44:46,240
Speaker 5: disappear and like.

3406
02:44:47,879 --> 02:44:51,360
Speaker 2: That's beyond disgusting to me. Yeah, and the thing is

3407
02:44:51,360 --> 02:44:56,920
Speaker 2: for me, like clearly these dudes, I mean.

3408
02:44:56,920 --> 02:45:00,119
Speaker 8: Like, okay, this, I saw a fan and I'm not

3409
02:45:00,400 --> 02:45:02,560
Speaker 8: naming names and stuff. They probably know who they are

3410
02:45:02,600 --> 02:45:04,560
Speaker 8: if they listen to the show. But I saw one

3411
02:45:04,560 --> 02:45:05,959
Speaker 8: of the fans of the show and be like, I'm

3412
02:45:05,959 --> 02:45:09,320
Speaker 8: still a proud you know, Penn State person today and

3413
02:45:09,360 --> 02:45:11,760
Speaker 8: all this shit and I'm like, isn't it kind of

3414
02:45:11,800 --> 02:45:12,959
Speaker 8: too soon for that shit?

3415
02:45:13,160 --> 02:45:15,520
Speaker 2: Like don't you at least want to give it a

3416
02:45:15,600 --> 02:45:16,400
Speaker 2: day to be like.

3417
02:45:16,480 --> 02:45:19,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, this was fucked up. I really ain't trying.

3418
02:45:19,400 --> 02:45:21,640
Speaker 8: I ain't feeling this shit today like oh all the

3419
02:45:21,760 --> 02:45:23,920
Speaker 8: days to be like now I'm holding my head hogh,

3420
02:45:24,000 --> 02:45:26,600
Speaker 8: Like no, man, this is fucked up, and you know,

3421
02:45:26,840 --> 02:45:30,039
Speaker 8: and it's and it you know, not to get too deep, man,

3422
02:45:30,080 --> 02:45:33,480
Speaker 8: but it just this whole attachment to these fucking schools.

3423
02:45:33,480 --> 02:45:36,840
Speaker 2: Man. It's so sad to me. Man. I mean, there's

3424
02:45:36,879 --> 02:45:37,640
Speaker 2: a certain.

3425
02:45:37,400 --> 02:45:40,200
Speaker 8: Like level of attaching you should have to wherever you

3426
02:45:40,240 --> 02:45:43,039
Speaker 8: go get your education and make friends.

3427
02:45:42,680 --> 02:45:45,000
Speaker 2: And have a good time. You should have that. But

3428
02:45:45,080 --> 02:45:47,560
Speaker 2: there's a point in time where it's like, Hey.

3429
02:45:48,640 --> 02:45:51,560
Speaker 8: Did you know your school might have been completed in

3430
02:45:51,600 --> 02:45:52,800
Speaker 8: some fucking child rates.

3431
02:45:53,440 --> 02:46:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out they were like at that school, you know.

3432
02:46:02,760 --> 02:46:04,360
Speaker 8: I mean, it's just one of those moments where it's like,

3433
02:46:04,360 --> 02:46:06,760
Speaker 8: that's my ale mid I get it, but you know,

3434
02:46:06,920 --> 02:46:09,680
Speaker 8: I can't get caught up in that type of affiliation.

3435
02:46:09,800 --> 02:46:12,920
Speaker 8: These motherfuckers don't speak for me, you know. It's it's

3436
02:46:13,000 --> 02:46:13,560
Speaker 8: just a team.

3437
02:46:14,040 --> 02:46:14,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

3438
02:46:14,560 --> 02:46:17,600
Speaker 10: And then I think, I think because we went to

3439
02:46:17,640 --> 02:46:20,640
Speaker 10: a smaller university, I understand people's you know, love and

3440
02:46:20,680 --> 02:46:22,120
Speaker 10: paraderie for the university.

3441
02:46:22,120 --> 02:46:24,240
Speaker 2: But truth be told, that university don't give a damn

3442
02:46:24,240 --> 02:46:24,760
Speaker 2: about you.

3443
02:46:25,000 --> 02:46:26,760
Speaker 10: And a lot of people got student loans they're gonna

3444
02:46:26,800 --> 02:46:29,200
Speaker 10: be paying for for the rest of their lives. The

3445
02:46:29,320 --> 02:46:31,320
Speaker 10: college is the business, and they gonna do what's best

3446
02:46:31,360 --> 02:46:34,720
Speaker 10: for the business. And yes, you are associated and affiliated

3447
02:46:34,720 --> 02:46:36,440
Speaker 10: with it due to your agree and your degree.

3448
02:46:36,760 --> 02:46:38,560
Speaker 2: But when they do some fucked up shit you got,

3449
02:46:38,640 --> 02:46:40,360
Speaker 2: but like, oh, that was fucked up and keep it

3450
02:46:40,400 --> 02:46:41,000
Speaker 2: moving well.

3451
02:46:41,040 --> 02:46:43,120
Speaker 8: The Attorney General says, this is a case about a

3452
02:46:43,200 --> 02:46:46,359
Speaker 8: sexual predator who used this position with the university.

3453
02:46:45,920 --> 02:46:48,200
Speaker 2: And community to repeatedly pray on young boys.

3454
02:46:48,520 --> 02:46:51,920
Speaker 8: It's also a case about a high ranking university officials

3455
02:46:52,040 --> 02:46:54,680
Speaker 8: who allegedly failed to report sexual assault of a young

3456
02:46:54,760 --> 02:46:57,720
Speaker 8: boy after the information was brought to their attention and

3457
02:46:57,800 --> 02:47:00,760
Speaker 8: later made false statements to a grand jury that they

3458
02:47:00,800 --> 02:47:03,440
Speaker 8: that was investigating a series of assaults on young boys.

3459
02:47:04,440 --> 02:47:07,720
Speaker 8: And I'm sure somewhere the Catholic churchers like, why didn't

3460
02:47:07,720 --> 02:47:12,440
Speaker 8: you just transfer the guy? But it's actually even more

3461
02:47:12,480 --> 02:47:15,240
Speaker 8: than that, a stomach turning, twenty three page grand jury

3462
02:47:15,280 --> 02:47:18,000
Speaker 8: report that could be the ugliest scandal in the history

3463
02:47:18,000 --> 02:47:19,200
Speaker 8: of college athletics.

3464
02:47:19,000 --> 02:47:21,000
Speaker 2: That's what That's what gets me about this whole thing.

3465
02:47:21,000 --> 02:47:22,879
Speaker 2: I'm talking to I don't know if you guys know

3466
02:47:23,000 --> 02:47:28,000
Speaker 2: Terrence Chambers from from Yeah yeah them on Twitter, Yeah exactly.

3467
02:47:28,040 --> 02:47:30,160
Speaker 5: So we were talking about this and it was like,

3468
02:47:32,360 --> 02:47:34,840
Speaker 5: what's amazing to me, you know when he brought this

3469
02:47:34,920 --> 02:47:40,040
Speaker 5: up to is that this scandal isn't bigger news than

3470
02:47:40,080 --> 02:47:43,160
Speaker 5: it is. And you think about how big, how big

3471
02:47:43,200 --> 02:47:45,640
Speaker 5: of a bombshell it was, you know, when we learned that,

3472
02:47:45,680 --> 02:47:48,760
Speaker 5: know how state players were getting small amounts of cash

3473
02:47:48,840 --> 02:47:52,480
Speaker 5: and tattoos, you know, in exchange for their signatures, and

3474
02:47:52,600 --> 02:47:56,040
Speaker 5: that like that was like earth shattering news to college

3475
02:47:56,040 --> 02:47:58,880
Speaker 5: football and the college football world. Damn near stopped turning

3476
02:47:59,040 --> 02:48:00,760
Speaker 5: when we heard that some blooe sster was giving these

3477
02:48:00,760 --> 02:48:04,880
Speaker 5: Miami kids money. And both of those stories made a

3478
02:48:04,959 --> 02:48:07,880
Speaker 5: much bigger impact then this one is making. But you

3479
02:48:07,879 --> 02:48:10,879
Speaker 5: you talk about, like, where are people's priorities when it's

3480
02:48:10,879 --> 02:48:11,519
Speaker 5: a bigger.

3481
02:48:11,240 --> 02:48:12,880
Speaker 2: Deal to us that a guy gets some money or

3482
02:48:12,920 --> 02:48:13,440
Speaker 2: that a guy.

3483
02:48:13,240 --> 02:48:16,480
Speaker 5: Gets some tattoos than it is that you know this

3484
02:48:16,480 --> 02:48:21,119
Speaker 5: this this this coach slash former coach, you know, systematically, repeatedly,

3485
02:48:21,200 --> 02:48:21,800
Speaker 5: serially was.

3486
02:48:21,840 --> 02:48:25,800
Speaker 2: Using his influence to do this to kids.

3487
02:48:26,040 --> 02:48:29,040
Speaker 5: And we're not outraised over this as we are over

3488
02:48:29,080 --> 02:48:31,240
Speaker 5: the idea that Terrell Prior might have got some money

3489
02:48:31,400 --> 02:48:32,440
Speaker 5: and some free tattoos.

3490
02:48:33,160 --> 02:48:36,800
Speaker 2: And wait a minute, those guys were black. Though they

3491
02:48:36,920 --> 02:48:40,720
Speaker 2: got that much, I don't know what you're talking about.

3492
02:48:40,840 --> 02:48:44,680
Speaker 10: And I one hundred percent agree with Morgan, and I

3493
02:48:44,720 --> 02:48:50,759
Speaker 10: think the bigger issue boils down to the constitution of universities.

3494
02:48:51,040 --> 02:48:55,959
Speaker 10: Universities are about protecting themselves. They don't care about the players,

3495
02:48:56,000 --> 02:48:58,000
Speaker 10: They don't care about the student body at all.

3496
02:48:58,640 --> 02:48:59,800
Speaker 2: And I feel this.

3497
02:49:00,080 --> 02:49:02,160
Speaker 8: Know a lot of people on the outside of other

3498
02:49:02,280 --> 02:49:06,120
Speaker 8: universities who have shit going on they university, they swiping it,

3499
02:49:06,240 --> 02:49:08,520
Speaker 8: they wiping their outbrow go who at least they ain't

3500
02:49:08,520 --> 02:49:11,760
Speaker 8: over here plucking up our shit. And because a lot

3501
02:49:11,800 --> 02:49:16,240
Speaker 8: of the general public of the not but the fans

3502
02:49:16,280 --> 02:49:18,959
Speaker 8: of the universities go, I don't give a shit what

3503
02:49:19,080 --> 02:49:22,680
Speaker 8: y'all do. Just don't let shit break out by my university.

3504
02:49:22,720 --> 02:49:26,680
Speaker 8: And it's sad, but that goes back to this undying

3505
02:49:28,959 --> 02:49:32,720
Speaker 8: loyalty that fans have to the universities when the universities

3506
02:49:32,720 --> 02:49:35,560
Speaker 8: don't give a shit. In fact, this should be larger news.

3507
02:49:35,840 --> 02:49:39,959
Speaker 8: Somebody a child got raped, Many children got raped because

3508
02:49:40,000 --> 02:49:42,879
Speaker 8: this continued on. This just stopped and he did with

3509
02:49:42,959 --> 02:49:43,680
Speaker 8: two thousand and two.

3510
02:49:43,680 --> 02:49:44,760
Speaker 2: They just arrested him.

3511
02:49:45,000 --> 02:49:49,280
Speaker 8: Imagine the other children during this period of time that

3512
02:49:49,400 --> 02:49:50,600
Speaker 8: you literally turned.

3513
02:49:50,360 --> 02:49:53,000
Speaker 2: Your back on and allowed this man to have access

3514
02:49:53,040 --> 02:49:54,440
Speaker 2: to him. But yet you will.

3515
02:49:54,520 --> 02:49:58,400
Speaker 8: But yet everybody gets outraged when somebody that's grown can't

3516
02:49:58,400 --> 02:50:01,440
Speaker 8: make any everybody makes money. This person's identity and this

3517
02:50:01,560 --> 02:50:04,400
Speaker 8: person's likeness. But them, the fans get more pissed about

3518
02:50:04,400 --> 02:50:06,160
Speaker 8: that than they do this. They'll be willing to back

3519
02:50:06,200 --> 02:50:09,000
Speaker 8: the university up and more about a kid getting raped

3520
02:50:09,000 --> 02:50:11,120
Speaker 8: than they will about somebody giving a child a dollar.

3521
02:50:11,440 --> 02:50:15,800
Speaker 2: Well, the other thing that it's sacer thinking these kids innocent,

3522
02:50:15,879 --> 02:50:16,200
Speaker 2: it's not.

3523
02:50:16,240 --> 02:50:18,720
Speaker 8: Right right, And the other thing I would throw out

3524
02:50:18,720 --> 02:50:21,040
Speaker 8: there is and I feel like this almost goes back

3525
02:50:21,080 --> 02:50:25,080
Speaker 8: to the whole beginning as a show. But people, part

3526
02:50:25,120 --> 02:50:27,160
Speaker 8: of our psyche just does not like to think about

3527
02:50:27,200 --> 02:50:27,920
Speaker 8: the identity.

3528
02:50:27,920 --> 02:50:31,160
Speaker 2: These kids play for free, and therefore we kind of

3529
02:50:31,200 --> 02:50:34,120
Speaker 2: dehumanize the kids. We turn them into, oh, they're just

3530
02:50:34,200 --> 02:50:35,360
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers are.

3531
02:50:35,360 --> 02:50:39,439
Speaker 8: Lucky, they get all the breaks, they're getting a free education.

3532
02:50:40,240 --> 02:50:43,080
Speaker 8: Like we turn it into like, oh, they they're just

3533
02:50:43,120 --> 02:50:47,480
Speaker 8: fucking lucky to even be getting a scholarship. And once

3534
02:50:47,520 --> 02:50:50,039
Speaker 8: you turn it into that, you strip their motivations, you

3535
02:50:50,080 --> 02:50:51,080
Speaker 8: strip their humanity.

3536
02:50:51,879 --> 02:50:53,720
Speaker 2: Isn't this essentially already what the NC.

3537
02:50:53,680 --> 02:50:57,520
Speaker 8: Double A is doing, fucking these kids like it already.

3538
02:50:57,680 --> 02:51:02,320
Speaker 8: It's almost like it couldn't be more playing metaphor exactly, like, let's.

3539
02:51:02,080 --> 02:51:04,879
Speaker 2: Turn our blind eye while somebody fucks.

3540
02:51:04,600 --> 02:51:07,760
Speaker 8: These kids and The thing is like, this dude does

3541
02:51:07,840 --> 02:51:11,120
Speaker 8: not fit the profile of who America likes to be

3542
02:51:11,200 --> 02:51:13,800
Speaker 8: angry at. No, like we like to be angry at

3543
02:51:13,800 --> 02:51:18,119
Speaker 8: the kids. It's much more. It's just an easier sell.

3544
02:51:18,600 --> 02:51:21,440
Speaker 8: This kid doesn't look like you. He doesn't deserve to

3545
02:51:21,520 --> 02:51:24,640
Speaker 8: drive the car he's driving. He doesn't deserve that money

3546
02:51:24,920 --> 02:51:27,520
Speaker 8: I have to pay for my education. He gets a

3547
02:51:27,560 --> 02:51:29,959
Speaker 8: free ride. Like there's all these things you can throw

3548
02:51:30,000 --> 02:51:32,680
Speaker 8: out there where you can just make up this boogeyman

3549
02:51:33,200 --> 02:51:35,280
Speaker 8: and next thing you know, Terrell Pryor is just some

3550
02:51:35,800 --> 02:51:38,880
Speaker 8: sort of entitled jock who just doesn't know how good

3551
02:51:38,920 --> 02:51:42,440
Speaker 8: he has it. As opposed to this guy who's kind

3552
02:51:42,480 --> 02:51:45,560
Speaker 8: of like an NBA owner. You identify with him. Looks

3553
02:51:45,600 --> 02:51:46,360
Speaker 8: like your pop pop.

3554
02:51:46,720 --> 02:51:49,840
Speaker 2: Probably worked yourself up from the bottom. He probably made.

3555
02:51:49,640 --> 02:51:52,120
Speaker 8: All kinds of money, and he's doing good for himself.

3556
02:51:52,160 --> 02:51:55,199
Speaker 8: He's an American dream. You sit down and eat Thanksgiving

3557
02:51:55,200 --> 02:51:57,640
Speaker 8: dinner with a motherfucker. It looks just like this every year,

3558
02:51:57,920 --> 02:51:59,879
Speaker 8: and it's a lot harder to hate him for the

3559
02:52:00,040 --> 02:52:00,920
Speaker 8: average college fan.

3560
02:52:01,040 --> 02:52:02,920
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what I think it's playing out.

3561
02:52:03,080 --> 02:52:06,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, because it overall the fan base when it comes

3562
02:52:06,480 --> 02:52:08,440
Speaker 10: to college sport even though a lot of people across

3563
02:52:08,480 --> 02:52:10,800
Speaker 10: the board love college sports. So when it comes to

3564
02:52:10,840 --> 02:52:15,640
Speaker 10: the larger, the larger universities, it's a predominantly white base.

3565
02:52:15,840 --> 02:52:16,959
Speaker 10: And that's that's the truth.

3566
02:52:17,240 --> 02:52:20,280
Speaker 8: So a lot of these children, I call them children,

3567
02:52:20,320 --> 02:52:23,920
Speaker 8: the young adults are there. It's very easy to make

3568
02:52:24,000 --> 02:52:27,080
Speaker 8: them seem like the villain and it's very easy to

3569
02:52:27,840 --> 02:52:31,080
Speaker 8: make it up here, and so they don't deserve, well,

3570
02:52:31,080 --> 02:52:33,800
Speaker 8: they don't belong. You look at the crowd, you look

3571
02:52:33,840 --> 02:52:36,320
Speaker 8: at the coaches, you look at that circle, that click

3572
02:52:36,400 --> 02:52:40,240
Speaker 8: of people who who are boosters for the college are

3573
02:52:40,440 --> 02:52:43,920
Speaker 8: like you look into college crowd on any especially these

3574
02:52:43,959 --> 02:52:47,720
Speaker 8: elite athletic programs, and you take you.

3575
02:52:47,680 --> 02:52:49,600
Speaker 2: Just start randomly picking kids out of the school.

3576
02:52:49,879 --> 02:52:53,760
Speaker 8: Which one doesn't look like he belongs. It's that fucking simple. Literally,

3577
02:52:53,879 --> 02:52:56,200
Speaker 8: you did a random fucking sample of Hey, let's take

3578
02:52:56,240 --> 02:52:59,800
Speaker 8: a hundred people from fucking Notre Dame. The chances that

3579
02:52:59,879 --> 02:53:02,880
Speaker 8: you running into that you'll pick out the athlete. I'll

3580
02:53:02,920 --> 02:53:05,840
Speaker 8: put it that way. You can pick out the athlete easily.

3581
02:53:06,680 --> 02:53:10,640
Speaker 8: The other thing I've told out about this and first

3582
02:53:10,680 --> 02:53:12,880
Speaker 8: of all, yeah, everybody need to be fire minimal.

3583
02:53:13,320 --> 02:53:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, if not charged with something, if not charged with

3584
02:53:15,920 --> 02:53:16,640
Speaker 2: something like so.

3585
02:53:16,800 --> 02:53:18,840
Speaker 8: Like people are so caught up on this college sports

3586
02:53:18,879 --> 02:53:21,439
Speaker 8: ship that they start the bar at.

3587
02:53:21,400 --> 02:53:23,720
Speaker 2: Well, is he gonna lose his job? Nigga? Is he

3588
02:53:23,800 --> 02:53:26,080
Speaker 2: gonna go to prison? You cover it up child rate?

3589
02:53:26,520 --> 02:53:27,840
Speaker 2: You're covering up child rate.

3590
02:53:28,080 --> 02:53:31,200
Speaker 8: You should go to jail. And then the other thing

3591
02:53:31,360 --> 02:53:34,720
Speaker 8: is the way that they immediately started protecting this dude.

3592
02:53:35,400 --> 02:53:39,280
Speaker 2: What did he know? Yes? But does he know where

3593
02:53:39,280 --> 02:53:41,640
Speaker 2: the bodies are buried? Because well, this is what I

3594
02:53:41,680 --> 02:53:42,040
Speaker 2: was saying.

3595
02:53:42,600 --> 02:53:46,760
Speaker 5: All these guys seem like unusually preoccupied with whether or

3596
02:53:46,840 --> 02:53:49,160
Speaker 5: not Sandusky is comfortable.

3597
02:53:49,480 --> 02:53:52,080
Speaker 2: Nobody, yeah, nobody, No, nobody want to piss him off

3598
02:53:52,120 --> 02:53:54,520
Speaker 2: too bad? You're right, Yes, I.

3599
02:53:54,560 --> 02:53:57,640
Speaker 8: Just wonder maybe he didn't know anything, But seems like

3600
02:53:57,760 --> 02:54:00,960
Speaker 8: ye're really gonna risk prison time for remote freaking it

3601
02:54:01,360 --> 02:54:04,880
Speaker 8: and nobody would agree with this. Nobody would agree with

3602
02:54:05,240 --> 02:54:08,160
Speaker 8: but somehow you're gonna risk perjuring your own self.

3603
02:54:08,560 --> 02:54:09,200
Speaker 2: What did he know?

3604
02:54:09,680 --> 02:54:13,920
Speaker 10: And on top of that, I think that also with

3605
02:54:14,160 --> 02:54:19,039
Speaker 10: this going down, it's some violations, some major major violations

3606
02:54:19,280 --> 02:54:23,040
Speaker 10: that got broke that he knows or knows something about,

3607
02:54:23,120 --> 02:54:26,320
Speaker 10: or what's involved in it or they were involved in it.

3608
02:54:26,320 --> 02:54:27,959
Speaker 2: With the connection with him, and.

3609
02:54:28,000 --> 02:54:30,640
Speaker 8: They said, if we piss him off too bad, or

3610
02:54:30,680 --> 02:54:33,279
Speaker 8: if we throw him underneath the bus, he's.

3611
02:54:33,080 --> 02:54:36,000
Speaker 10: Gonna start singing and the NCAA will be up our asses.

3612
02:54:36,080 --> 02:54:38,680
Speaker 10: But you know what, if the CAAA would have been

3613
02:54:38,760 --> 02:54:41,320
Speaker 10: up your ass in two thousand and two, twenty eleven,

3614
02:54:41,480 --> 02:54:43,400
Speaker 10: this shit would have been over with by now.

3615
02:54:43,560 --> 02:54:43,760
Speaker 2: Right.

3616
02:54:43,800 --> 02:54:46,720
Speaker 8: Look at the hurricanes. A smitch brought them down, is

3617
02:54:46,760 --> 02:54:49,120
Speaker 8: what I'm saying. Like, that's what I sound like. They

3618
02:54:49,160 --> 02:54:52,760
Speaker 8: were scared of that dude, knowing where the bodies were. Anyway, Man,

3619
02:54:53,720 --> 02:54:57,320
Speaker 8: this has been another episode of the black Out Tips

3620
02:54:57,680 --> 02:55:01,120
Speaker 8: where we talked about Robert White. People talk about white

3621
02:55:01,120 --> 02:55:04,240
Speaker 8: people having all kinds of problems with the Hermit Kine thing,

3622
02:55:04,360 --> 02:55:07,680
Speaker 8: mortgage stations. They're gonna be jumping on his bandwagon. I

3623
02:55:07,800 --> 02:55:11,400
Speaker 8: say it does no way in hell. He's too scary

3624
02:55:11,400 --> 02:55:12,760
Speaker 8: of a black man. They don't like that.

3625
02:55:14,720 --> 02:55:14,879
Speaker 2: Man.

3626
02:55:15,680 --> 02:55:19,880
Speaker 8: Now I'm on that walking down the street, you see

3627
02:55:19,920 --> 02:55:23,199
Speaker 8: Herman Kine and you see Barack Obama. I think people

3628
02:55:23,200 --> 02:55:23,600
Speaker 8: across the.

3629
02:55:23,560 --> 02:55:26,440
Speaker 2: Street from hurricane just just on our site.

3630
02:55:27,680 --> 02:55:31,760
Speaker 8: Women for sure, Yeah, women for sure.

3631
02:55:31,920 --> 02:55:38,520
Speaker 2: And he was across the street right after him, Herman Kane.

3632
02:55:38,879 --> 02:55:40,560
Speaker 5: Now it's the case I make if I'm Herman Kane,

3633
02:55:40,560 --> 02:55:42,000
Speaker 5: because people were like, well, how can you be president

3634
02:55:42,040 --> 02:55:43,959
Speaker 5: after this? The case I would make if I'm Herman

3635
02:55:44,000 --> 02:55:48,520
Speaker 5: can look as your president. I would be this this

3636
02:55:48,720 --> 02:55:51,120
Speaker 5: problem would disappear because the problem before was that I

3637
02:55:51,160 --> 02:55:54,199
Speaker 5: was the president of the National Restaurant Association and didn't

3638
02:55:54,240 --> 02:55:58,680
Speaker 5: have enough power as the president of the National Restaurant

3639
02:55:58,720 --> 02:56:02,760
Speaker 5: Association to make women comply with my sexual advances. Whereas

3640
02:56:02,760 --> 02:56:06,360
Speaker 5: if I'm the president of the United States the world,

3641
02:56:06,400 --> 02:56:09,560
Speaker 5: any woman would dream of turning me down, and therefore

3642
02:56:09,560 --> 02:56:10,400
Speaker 5: there's no harassment.

3643
02:56:11,640 --> 02:56:14,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, before before the non non non.

3644
02:56:13,879 --> 02:56:16,879
Speaker 9: Plan, he had a sixty nine sixty nine sixty nine plan.

3645
02:56:18,200 --> 02:56:20,040
Speaker 2: So that's that's good.

3646
02:56:20,879 --> 02:56:24,400
Speaker 8: Now, first of all, let me just highlight your sights

3647
02:56:24,440 --> 02:56:27,760
Speaker 8: and then y'all tell them about your Twitter. The Mundane

3648
02:56:27,800 --> 02:56:33,920
Speaker 8: Festival Dot Tumbler is Chris Lambert's website slash blog where

3649
02:56:33,959 --> 02:56:35,959
Speaker 8: you post all kinds of random things that he likes

3650
02:56:36,000 --> 02:56:38,560
Speaker 8: and that he's into. And of course on YouTube, just

3651
02:56:38,600 --> 02:56:42,360
Speaker 8: search Chris Lambert's comedy Chris, you got any upcoming shows

3652
02:56:42,400 --> 02:56:43,160
Speaker 8: you want to promote?

3653
02:56:43,200 --> 02:56:44,080
Speaker 2: And what's your Twitter?

3654
02:56:44,920 --> 02:56:49,360
Speaker 9: Twitter is at Chris Lambert c h R I s

3655
02:56:49,520 --> 02:56:51,680
Speaker 9: Lambert L a m V E r t H.

3656
02:56:51,720 --> 02:56:56,520
Speaker 2: Slam, Giving Birth Without the Eye. Upcoming shows right.

3657
02:56:56,320 --> 02:57:01,720
Speaker 9: Now Manchester Pub on the twenty first in New York

3658
02:57:01,760 --> 02:57:06,359
Speaker 9: City like seven o'clock and then hopefully some stuff.

3659
02:57:06,040 --> 02:57:09,359
Speaker 2: In Virginia on in UH.

3660
02:57:09,320 --> 02:57:12,400
Speaker 9: At the Arlington Draft House on in November and December.

3661
02:57:12,480 --> 02:57:14,080
Speaker 9: So look forward to that.

3662
02:57:14,959 --> 02:57:16,520
Speaker 2: Cool now, Morgan.

3663
02:57:16,959 --> 02:57:20,520
Speaker 8: Of course, All Balls Don't Bounce dot com, no great

3664
02:57:20,600 --> 02:57:25,680
Speaker 8: podcast on iTunes. All Balls Don't Bounce by Morgancampbell dot

3665
02:57:25,720 --> 02:57:30,160
Speaker 8: WordPress dot com for his personal blogging and all that

3666
02:57:30,200 --> 02:57:33,160
Speaker 8: stuff and the sports commentary. I subscribe to it. I

3667
02:57:33,240 --> 02:57:36,840
Speaker 8: get an email when you updates it, sir. And of

3668
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Speaker 8: course he's on Twitter at Morgan P.

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Speaker 2: Campbell. And the peace stands for what Care. The peace

3670
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Speaker 2: stands for prolific R and B. Singer. That's right, just

3671
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Speaker 2: singing some notes in this episode was well.

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Speaker 8: First of all Blackout Tips dot com, the Blackout Tips, iTunes, facebooks,

3673
02:58:00,320 --> 02:58:02,760
Speaker 8: all that shit, look us up. Donate to the show.

3674
02:58:02,920 --> 02:58:05,120
Speaker 8: Go to the Blackout Tests dot com. You can donate,

3675
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Speaker 8: You can buy stuff in the store. Be cool, be

3676
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Speaker 8: one of the cool people. You can call the show

3677
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3678
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Speaker 8: and you can email the show the Blackout Tests at

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Speaker 8: gmail dot com.

3680
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Speaker 2: Of course the official well not official, the sponsor I

3681
02:58:22,959 --> 02:58:24,080
Speaker 2: was gonna say official weapon.

3682
02:58:25,120 --> 02:58:29,200
Speaker 8: The official sponsor for this show well Shadow Down Productions.

3683
02:58:29,280 --> 02:58:32,400
Speaker 2: And they're doing the dirt Cheap Therapy Blu Ray giveaway.

3684
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Speaker 8: Retweet their tweets that pertain to this contest and you

3685
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3686
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Speaker 2: Or go to their website and buy some shit.

3687
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Speaker 8: Things start as low as ninety nine cents and you

3688
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Speaker 8: can be in it for a fleet a free Blu

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Speaker 8: Ray that starts me and Karen Conder. Yeah, so if

3690
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Speaker 8: you like us, get some free Blu Ray shit with

3691
02:58:50,160 --> 02:58:50,560
Speaker 8: us on it.

3692
02:58:50,760 --> 02:58:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we do have our own page on shotatdog

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Speaker 2: dot com.

3694
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Speaker 8: Yeah. So that's it until next time. I love you,

3695
02:58:58,560 --> 02:59:00,959
Speaker 8: two debbies right for real?

3696
02:59:01,640 --> 02:59:04,480
Speaker 2: You know, were the real niggas popping the crystaln not

3697
02:59:04,800 --> 02:59:08,360
Speaker 2: that white starck w what a real niggas?

3698
02:59:08,400 --> 02:59:10,480
Speaker 3: That nigga?

3699
02:59:20,160 --> 02:59:23,039
Speaker 15: A young wow, beautiful love child? You like them gloves

3700
02:59:23,080 --> 02:59:25,879
Speaker 15: down link rocking, the min copping that you want to

3701
02:59:25,920 --> 02:59:28,360
Speaker 15: sink one hundred dollars drink popping that had to make

3702
02:59:28,440 --> 02:59:31,360
Speaker 15: you take them shopping the foul Doctor reminitsen that my

3703
02:59:31,480 --> 02:59:34,119
Speaker 15: first time a pechick. You was innocent, but now you've

3704
02:59:34,160 --> 02:59:34,640
Speaker 15: rented dick.

3705
02:59:34,720 --> 02:59:35,640
Speaker 2: We're the tightest shit.

3706
02:59:35,959 --> 02:59:38,640
Speaker 15: Hit nail with the rail airbrush, nails, hit the jim,

3707
02:59:38,760 --> 02:59:41,280
Speaker 15: hit the scales having set. But that legitm sing your

3708
02:59:41,360 --> 02:59:43,800
Speaker 15: proppercy you ever need tone is locking me the way

3709
02:59:43,840 --> 02:59:46,000
Speaker 15: your mom make me. They dreamer you on top of me,

3710
02:59:46,240 --> 02:59:48,400
Speaker 15: which I could be the one man, but you drive

3711
02:59:48,480 --> 02:59:49,879
Speaker 15: away too many willies.

3712
02:59:49,600 --> 02:59:52,359
Speaker 2: All in one hand. You want to run up big clubs, geting.

3713
02:59:52,240 --> 02:59:54,600
Speaker 15: Rubbed on niggas, caught your head shaking, fat.

3714
02:59:54,480 --> 02:59:55,520
Speaker 2: Red, get your puck on.

3715
02:59:55,840 --> 02:59:58,120
Speaker 15: Following week you back there with what you stuck on,

3716
02:59:58,400 --> 02:59:59,959
Speaker 15: weed flows and calls puking.

3717
03:00:00,080 --> 03:00:02,680
Speaker 2: What's little nigga husband not know one sees out because

3718
03:00:02,680 --> 03:00:05,720
Speaker 2: you believe me mother hurt for the seas nigga stears you.

3719
03:00:05,959 --> 03:00:07,720
Speaker 15: You just let him hurt you and leave what a

3720
03:00:07,920 --> 03:00:10,199
Speaker 15: mind for and like you not need push your man's

3721
03:00:10,240 --> 03:00:12,840
Speaker 15: wear calling up at least when you flip can't understand it.

3722
03:00:12,959 --> 03:00:15,000
Speaker 15: Your way should be a throat for us, But for

3723
03:00:15,160 --> 03:00:18,080
Speaker 15: now that's a whole de person for months, grown so

3724
03:00:18,320 --> 03:00:19,720
Speaker 15: shut looking, little.

3725
03:00:19,520 --> 03:00:23,480
Speaker 16: Crust drinking, little place, get a little hurt hell, little

3726
03:00:23,520 --> 03:00:27,320
Speaker 16: struggling trying to survive Mama, uncle, she made you when

3727
03:00:27,400 --> 03:00:31,400
Speaker 16: the just turn brand say moms, let's he bring my

3728
03:00:31,520 --> 03:00:33,199
Speaker 16: mind emotional things.

3729
03:00:38,480 --> 03:00:40,960
Speaker 2: Like nice and she got your heart broke and felt life.

3730
03:00:41,000 --> 03:00:43,120
Speaker 15: Let's grow up girl and said you want prevent that

3731
03:00:43,240 --> 03:00:45,600
Speaker 15: you act the nicest to who's ever getting down the

3732
03:00:45,680 --> 03:00:47,720
Speaker 15: trips to get his mind over you do is give

3733
03:00:47,800 --> 03:00:50,280
Speaker 15: him something prices because in time he'll real lives the

3734
03:00:50,440 --> 03:00:51,960
Speaker 15: thousands all he need more than we.

3735
03:00:52,200 --> 03:00:53,960
Speaker 3: Then you hear him on with lives and greed.

3736
03:00:54,160 --> 03:00:56,920
Speaker 15: Then you're gonna get starting off making new lord of yours.

3737
03:00:57,120 --> 03:00:58,840
Speaker 3: Then to get it, get out of keeping me on

3738
03:00:58,959 --> 03:00:59,880
Speaker 3: all four place.

3739
03:01:00,160 --> 03:01:02,480
Speaker 15: Listen and I'm gonna take it to you a bitinal

3740
03:01:02,640 --> 03:01:04,359
Speaker 15: with nobody got a picture.

3741
03:01:04,080 --> 03:01:06,240
Speaker 2: In you and little the ice kicking on you.

3742
03:01:06,480 --> 03:01:08,840
Speaker 15: You never listen to this niggas fan of Franklin, So

3743
03:01:08,959 --> 03:01:11,320
Speaker 15: Tennis Ankless must have had a bad tail in the

3744
03:01:11,440 --> 03:01:13,800
Speaker 15: past though, can't even keep your brain with a nigga

3745
03:01:13,879 --> 03:01:15,760
Speaker 15: with cash flow, Say man, they're all the same.

3746
03:01:15,840 --> 03:01:17,560
Speaker 2: What we need to do is break this chair.

3747
03:01:17,720 --> 03:01:19,800
Speaker 15: You got a job for a time and schools your

3748
03:01:19,879 --> 03:01:22,280
Speaker 15: night dame with dreams to settle down to day fall.

3749
03:01:22,400 --> 03:01:25,240
Speaker 15: From there you get in interviews, put your voices into

3750
03:01:25,320 --> 03:01:28,879
Speaker 15: kitten spool. Typical day that the black girl sees coming home,

3751
03:01:28,959 --> 03:01:32,200
Speaker 15: but and more from a college degree shining.

3752
03:01:32,400 --> 03:01:37,000
Speaker 16: Look at no fi and s need a little little

3753
03:01:37,040 --> 03:01:38,560
Speaker 16: struggle and joining to survive.

3754
03:01:40,280 --> 03:01:44,800
Speaker 3: Change you with now just saying no kings messing with

3755
03:01:44,920 --> 03:01:46,760
Speaker 3: my mind? Melon mans.

3756
03:01:50,879 --> 03:01:54,240
Speaker 15: Baby, Well you focused on the chip Niggas aware the

3757
03:01:54,320 --> 03:01:56,160
Speaker 15: coke is nice of cough likee niggas.

3758
03:01:56,280 --> 03:01:56,400
Speaker 2: Yo.

3759
03:01:56,440 --> 03:01:59,080
Speaker 15: You seem hopeless, your value too mus to be measured.

3760
03:01:59,120 --> 03:02:01,760
Speaker 15: I wonder how you could ever be playing your pussy work,

3761
03:02:01,840 --> 03:02:03,920
Speaker 15: going a mount to more than the world could not

3762
03:02:04,080 --> 03:02:06,680
Speaker 15: know nothing about you. You leave in the crib tak

3763
03:02:06,720 --> 03:02:09,199
Speaker 15: you know your kids out to drop them off, slitting

3764
03:02:09,240 --> 03:02:11,080
Speaker 15: something that could knock you off so hot and so on.

3765
03:02:11,440 --> 03:02:13,560
Speaker 15: That's the same thing they got you off growing up.

3766
03:02:13,680 --> 03:02:16,080
Speaker 15: Seeing it should remind you keep being love to you