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Speaker 1: I say calling this man a legend is an understatement.
Speaker 1: Calling him an icon as an understatement. Calling him a
Speaker 1: visionary uh uh, A person that is relentless, a person
Speaker 1: that has landed his hand to hip hop and could
Speaker 1: singly handily say that he has made hip hop a
Speaker 1: better place. Some of your favorite records he's wrote some
Speaker 1: of your favorite artists. He's your artist, favorite artist artist.
Speaker 1: He's your rapper's favorite rappers rapper. He's your producer's favorite, producer, producer, producer.
Speaker 1: He is a classic legend icon means so much, and
Speaker 1: I want to I don't want to limit to him
Speaker 1: to to to because because he's he's he's actually from
Speaker 1: the South, kind of dressed like from the East Coast
Speaker 1: and rhyme almost like from the East.
Speaker 4: Coast, but landed and goddamn the West Coast. So he's
Speaker 4: a bit of every coast hip hop. He's a man's man,
Speaker 4: like I said, a legend, legend. And if it wasn't
Speaker 4: for him, some of your favorite hip hop artist icons
Speaker 4: will probably never even exist.
Speaker 1: Like I said, he's everyone's favorite. In case you don't
Speaker 1: know who the fuck I'm talking about, we talking about
Speaker 1: the one only that still might be one of the hardest,
Speaker 1: still might be one of the hardest ship like and
Speaker 1: hip hop when that's to come on. I had so
Speaker 1: much fun doing research for this interview, watching the documentary, uh,
Speaker 1: watching your old interviews, watch it, listening to the old music.
Speaker 1: It's like you are sincerely a god of hip hop man, man.
Speaker 5: Thank you for that.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: Well, first things first, I gotta get this off my
Speaker 6: chest because I carried it on my there it a
Speaker 6: long time and I don't want to go too deep
Speaker 6: into it. But but this between me and you, it's personal.
Speaker 6: It was up and smoke to it, and it reached out.
Speaker 5: Your hand to me.
Speaker 6: And I was in the middle of my addiction, in
Speaker 6: the middle of a bad trip, and so I don't
Speaker 6: remember everything perbade him, but I know I was fucked
Speaker 6: up in it.
Speaker 1: So old you in a polymy. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. No,
Speaker 1: You've been such inspiration and to tell you the truth,
Speaker 1: you are legend you. You can't you guys. If it
Speaker 1: wasn't for you guys doing what y'all did, I don't
Speaker 1: think the Queen's Bridge slash left rock sound would even
Speaker 1: be invented, you know what I'm saying, because of like like,
Speaker 1: like I said, watching the documentary and going through all
Speaker 1: of this and seeing seeing your relentless list. Like there
Speaker 1: was one part of the documentary, by the way, I
Speaker 1: cried twice. I cried twice. There was one part though,
Speaker 1: where Drey just looked in the camera and Dre said,
Speaker 1: you can't give it away, but Dre says something that
Speaker 1: you want all of your friends to say, like you
Speaker 1: want I cried to the TV, Like, I'm sitting there,
Speaker 1: my barber's cutting my hair and he's like, wait minute,
Speaker 1: because he fills the tears, so I guess he's not.
Speaker 1: He don't want to look at me because he looking like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, this thing of nooy. He's really sitting here crying.
Speaker 1: And I love that friendship of yalls, Like how did
Speaker 1: y'all develop that relationship? You and Dre?
Speaker 5: It's uh, it's a musical. He's the music.
Speaker 6: I'm the words, bro mm hm, I am the words.
Speaker 6: What he is it's the music. Wow, And so that
Speaker 6: you can't you know what I'm saying. And this is
Speaker 6: when before the world knew who he was. I knew
Speaker 6: who he.
Speaker 3: Was world, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: But it's it's the sound. It's the quality of the
Speaker 6: sound that he produces. It's not the actual production to
Speaker 6: beat making. It's the engineering. It's that when you're in
Speaker 6: the studio.
Speaker 1: With the good doctor. I like you call him a
Speaker 1: good doctor.
Speaker 6: That's the sound that day. It's because you ain't gotta
Speaker 6: go wait till they get mixed. The matter, none of
Speaker 6: that high sound in that moment. That's it, and it's
Speaker 6: never gonna change. It's gonna be that dope all the
Speaker 6: way through, you know, and I always respected him uh
Speaker 6: immensely for that, for that skill set, I couldn't leave.
Speaker 5: It, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: That's why even after what happened to me happened, I
Speaker 6: stayed up under that sound, right, because if I could
Speaker 6: stay close to this sound, I still got these words.
Speaker 5: I might not have the voice to go with it,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: But you know that was like, like like I was
Speaker 1: saying earlier, it's like I heard that you said that
Speaker 1: you wanted to you gave up certain times. But the
Speaker 1: outside is looking in. We never saw that part of you.
Speaker 1: We always we only get to see. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's the.
Speaker 3: Part that was presented or it's just that much.
Speaker 1: Of a hero, you know. What I'm saying is that
Speaker 1: we we didn't see the vulnerability part of you, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So was that something that
Speaker 1: you was hiding or that was like some of you
Speaker 1: did on purpose?
Speaker 5: No? Bro, that thank you.
Speaker 6: That's just that's just me as a as a human being,
Speaker 6: right right. I never get the show but those sides
Speaker 6: because it's never about me, right, It's always about.
Speaker 1: My guys, G O, D, not not the DC.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's ultimate.
Speaker 6: But back in those days, it's always about Snoop, Snoop
Speaker 6: and dre Right and so my roles it is just
Speaker 6: to be in the back.
Speaker 5: And I'm cool with that, sipping on yat. You know, listen.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for this documentary to actually finally come
Speaker 1: out because I thought, I swear to God, I'm not
Speaker 1: gassing you up because you here. I thought that straight
Speaker 1: out of confident, was like nothing could be better than that, right,
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting back, I'm like, this is no other
Speaker 1: thing story, no other story, And then you want to
Speaker 1: tect to me. You're like, wait a minute, it gets better.
Speaker 1: You can only imagine.
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't get to watch it, but there's
Speaker 3: so many layers to your story, going all the way
Speaker 3: back to Texas.
Speaker 5: Bro it is.
Speaker 6: And I used to be humble about the ship, but
Speaker 6: I'm starting to get.
Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna be cocky for you and jump
Speaker 1: for the record. We've been trying to get you, you know,
Speaker 1: I've been trying for a long time. Hold on before
Speaker 1: you even go, Before you go, because our show was
Speaker 1: about giving people they fly. Snoop said that when he
Speaker 1: got his flowers just better than getting the Grammy because
Speaker 1: it comes for his people. We want to give your
Speaker 1: flowers face to face.
Speaker 7: Man, man, man, you mean so much hours yes, let
Speaker 7: me tell you, you mean so much, not just to
Speaker 7: west coast, not just to the south, not to the east,
Speaker 7: to the whole case.
Speaker 1: Like I can't pitch a hip hop without you. Wow,
Speaker 1: It's like I literally can't. Like I believe your first
Speaker 1: word was eighty seven, eighty seven, eighty seven. I was
Speaker 1: born in seventy seven, so my memory it's always like
Speaker 1: they you always existed. So I cannot pitch a hip
Speaker 1: hop without you, like, like for real, you're a real,
Speaker 1: real legend, my brother. Let's just talk about the documentary
Speaker 1: without giving up every day, right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, but we can talk about the story.
Speaker 3: We don't have to refer the story to the film.
Speaker 3: We're here to talk about.
Speaker 5: Story documentary itself. Jen Foe God three hip hop documentary
Speaker 5: all time, yep. And it might not be.
Speaker 6: Two or three, you know what I'm saying, because it's
Speaker 6: it is hip hop. I'm the vehicle, but that story
Speaker 6: is about it hip hop. That's why it goes up
Speaker 6: through New York up and that it travels like hip hop.
Speaker 5: Did you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I love the fact apartment because you I love the
Speaker 1: fact that you even brung the doctors in, like you know,
Speaker 1: when you was checking the a voidable code of course
Speaker 1: and things like that. I love that you didn't even
Speaker 1: hide that, like you just you wanted people to know
Speaker 1: your real life because.
Speaker 6: It's still an option. Why there's still a lives with that,
Speaker 6: you know. Then I think happened and that's a whole
Speaker 6: another bar of ones. But so I'm still living at
Speaker 6: this There's some changes I want to make and at
Speaker 6: the end, because I want to do something for easy,
Speaker 6: I didn't get a chance to do when they that
Speaker 6: should happened. That that happened because his his widow reached
Speaker 6: out to me and started talking to me in vacuuming
Speaker 6: my master's back.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow wow. You said something an interview and
Speaker 1: you said, the thing about the documentary is that a
Speaker 1: fifty year old white man from Arkansas, from anywhere in
Speaker 1: the world could relate to it. I'm telling you everybody
Speaker 1: can relate. I'm telling you, I'm telling you that that
Speaker 1: documentary is not just a hippy it's a it's a
Speaker 1: never give up, it's a it's a it's a fucking
Speaker 1: inspirational said life documentary. But it's like it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you're a litless list. You're like you're even say your
Speaker 1: even way to say, you know what, I was one
Speaker 1: of the biggest stars in the world. I lost my voice,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna lose my intentions. I'm gonna pay
Speaker 1: a team player. Like that ship was just so I
Speaker 1: was good sponsors coming through me. I'm just whoa because
Speaker 1: most people once they get the place of being Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan's they don't want to be talked Scottie Pippen, they
Speaker 1: don't want to go to but you not only it
Speaker 1: was like you chose that role. He was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I can't be the player the more, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be there. And I'm pining the hardest rhymes
Speaker 1: ever because.
Speaker 6: Because I want my guys to win. Man, I want them.
Speaker 6: I want them to win. Even if I can't win,
Speaker 6: somebody gonna win. And and snoop, you could tell the
Speaker 6: character of a man he is because they always give
Speaker 6: it back, like he never goes nowhere without speaking me,
Speaker 6: lifting me up. And if I needed him and called
Speaker 6: me to be there, you know, and like jo d
Speaker 6: Bless me Bro. He put me in the grade spot
Speaker 6: to be a with thero and learn some real he
Speaker 6: lessons in his life, you know. And so that's why
Speaker 6: I'm now. I tell folks, it's a it's a god thing,
Speaker 6: it's not a doc thing. I'm trying to position myself
Speaker 6: for hip hop, not the first fifty because the first fifty.
Speaker 5: Was fucked up.
Speaker 6: The next fifty when we get to win, when them
Speaker 6: billions come to us the creators and float to our
Speaker 6: people on the way we wanted to right And we
Speaker 6: don't have enough of that going on now.
Speaker 5: But now that we got this awareness, now that we
Speaker 5: got understanding, now that we got opportunities like this show,
Speaker 5: then we can bless our folks. Ain't growing this thing
Speaker 5: in this money game just like you know they have,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And it's next fifty for me.
Speaker 6: It's about going back to the same projects I came from.
Speaker 1: Dallas, Dallas ballas.
Speaker 6: And making sure that what Dallas for work, making sure
Speaker 6: that those babies have an opportunity to win, Bro, because
Speaker 6: they're living in them streets right now.
Speaker 5: They're living.
Speaker 6: The movies we wrote in our records, but they're not
Speaker 6: living and with honor the way we act. If there's
Speaker 6: no honor, then you can't trust nobody. You just out
Speaker 6: there in the wild West again like fuck everything and
Speaker 6: every and we lose them like that. Man, we can't
Speaker 6: lose these boys like that.
Speaker 5: We need them. You know what I mean? What if
Speaker 5: Trump do allow I'm just playing.
Speaker 9: I don't want to go ahead them sneaks is horrible, horrible.
Speaker 5: All them go. Yeah, that's what he's said. You know
Speaker 5: what I man?
Speaker 6: So you you want and they and they just somebody
Speaker 6: just read somewhere they they just signed the bill uh
Speaker 6: in Louisiana that allows them boys eighteen.
Speaker 1: Years or you have top to carry your seals. You
Speaker 1: can't even bot a cigarettes eighteen Yeah, man, you can
Speaker 1: buy a guy.
Speaker 5: What what is the purpose? Who are the people and
Speaker 5: why they ain't not on TV?
Speaker 6: Let me see what they look like like because I'm
Speaker 6: not getting the game and that because you already know
Speaker 6: what's gonna happen, right right, You already know what's gonna
Speaker 6: happen there.
Speaker 5: If one of these young boys is in school and
Speaker 5: another one of them little boys run past them and
Speaker 5: popping in is out one good time, He's not.
Speaker 6: Gonna even square up. He's gonna get up and run
Speaker 6: to the lock up. No, why because the ain't.
Speaker 5: Not fighting no more. Bro.
Speaker 6: Now you're out of there, and then you lost two
Speaker 6: lives or three or four behind buy some ignorant shit.
Speaker 6: And so, you know, with all due respect to the
Speaker 6: to the program, I don't want to be you know,
Speaker 6: but yeah, man, it's it's really important to me to
Speaker 6: get out there and make that stance right. I was
Speaker 6: talking to the k R s UH in Dallas just
Speaker 6: a week ago. We were sitting there right along the podcast,
Speaker 6: you know, in Dallas, me and Ka har Rests. I'm
Speaker 6: doing some work on the podcast, and we would start
Speaker 6: having this conversation like we gotta get out there and
Speaker 6: do what we can to get our young men back
Speaker 6: on track.
Speaker 1: There's no, it's not a lot of leaders anymore. We
Speaker 1: don't have a lot.
Speaker 5: No, we went. We went from the Martin Luther King
Speaker 5: era right to the Frankie Lucas era.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to doctor Umar.
Speaker 5: I've seen Omar there for one time. I don't want to.
Speaker 5: I don't want to tell nobody me sneak up on you.
Speaker 1: They have on beads.
Speaker 5: No, but yeah, he was a cool brother, you know.
Speaker 5: I don't want to, but.
Speaker 1: I think about it, I can't think of Doctor Umar
Speaker 1: flying the White airline. You can tell me he was
Speaker 1: a white I'm disappointed, Doctor, He's supposed to be on
Speaker 1: black air waves. So I'm gonna tell you one of
Speaker 1: my favorite, well some of my favorite stories of a
Speaker 1: hip hop period is when I hear anybody who was
Speaker 1: involved in the chronic talking about those sessions. Now, obviously
Speaker 1: we interview Snoop, we interviewed Dazz and Corrupt, right, and
Speaker 1: Dazz and Corrupt and Snoop came from like a rookie
Speaker 1: point of view where basically they were like and even
Speaker 1: Snoop to a certain extent, but Stop said it was
Speaker 1: you and him really pinning most of it. But you, like,
Speaker 1: doctor Dre is different from Snoop and different from Dazz
Speaker 1: and Corrupt because you know what these records can get veterans.
Speaker 1: You know, how was those sessions like with you? And
Speaker 1: it wasn't as fun as as as well?
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, that was you know, because I knew what
Speaker 6: was gonna happen, right, and in the early days, I
Speaker 6: thought it was gonna be my money too, you know,
Speaker 6: But you knew what them boys was doing and if
Speaker 6: you fucking with dre Man nine ninety nine, nine point nine,
Speaker 6: nine nine, You're gonna win. It's difficult not to win
Speaker 6: with with with him doing. But nobody was like Snoop
Speaker 6: Snoop was what what what slick Rick was?
Speaker 5: Today's Snoop was that for them? Nobody had that, you know,
Speaker 5: That's why I was.
Speaker 6: It was so apropos that he did lotty dotty because
Speaker 6: that's what he was.
Speaker 3: On his first album, was on his first album, and
Speaker 3: it made so much sense. It was like perfect, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was a genius.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm not lie from deep Cover. When I
Speaker 1: first heard deep Cover, I knew Snoop was different. I
Speaker 1: knew he was this ship. I just didn't know that
Speaker 1: he would be wound up being the most famous rapper
Speaker 1: on earth. Like I love the Boar where you keep saying,
Speaker 1: you say to the kids, you'd be like, y'all know
Speaker 1: who DC is, and they're like, uh, he is like
Speaker 1: the most famous rapper. It is like there's no place
Speaker 1: on earth Snoop can't go.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean, Snoop is a he is a
Speaker 6: marketing genius. He ain't turning down no checks. He gonna
Speaker 6: gonna get it.
Speaker 5: What you said but how did.
Speaker 1: You see that in the beginning, because obviously y'are dealing
Speaker 1: with a diamond in the rough, Like it wasn't like
Speaker 1: he came out and was polished. So what was it?
Speaker 3: Dre told you about this thought? And then yeah, and
Speaker 3: you're seeing him on the level as an MC. I'm
Speaker 3: sure at first it's just as an MC. You're like,
Speaker 3: I can respect this.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean I got to help him, right,
Speaker 5: But Dre heard him. He said, that's the guy. I said, Okay,
Speaker 5: that's what we're gonna do, you know, and follow the league,
Speaker 5: play my role in this movie. Sit down with him
Speaker 5: and take him through structures.
Speaker 1: And because you told him how to do sixteens.
Speaker 6: Make him money? Well yeah, because he was right. He
Speaker 6: was just wrapped for thirty minutes and shit, and you know,
Speaker 6: it's cool. It's cool here, then they get cool again here.
Speaker 6: Then now you're just wrapping some ship and then he
Speaker 6: get cool right here. You need to remove all the
Speaker 6: ifs and speak to the meat that at work. And
Speaker 6: and he figured that shit out by the time he
Speaker 6: got to.
Speaker 5: His record was ship. I couldn't tell him shit.
Speaker 6: You know, he was flying U and I was happy
Speaker 6: to be on the ride with him.
Speaker 1: Now, was sure your bodyguard at first?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is the holl Yeah all right, So you're telling me,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you call.
Speaker 6: It a bodyguard because he was taking now you know
Speaker 6: what I mean about, ain't nobody trying to fuck with me?
Speaker 6: But sure was was a friend and coming from from
Speaker 6: Dallas to uh to California, going from nothing to everything.
Speaker 1: Right, even though you went from Dallas to Confton, he
Speaker 1: moved into continent right over.
Speaker 6: But I'm saying, didn't nobody give a fuck who I
Speaker 6: was in Dallas By the time I got to tell,
Speaker 6: everybody thought I was the coldest thing since sliced bread,
Speaker 6: you know, and Sugar started hanging out taking me to
Speaker 6: clubs at at twenty years old. You're not supposed to
Speaker 6: get in what you get You going in and Eddie
Speaker 6: Murphy's over there and Prince's over there. You start filling
Speaker 6: that vibe when the record start hitting and then that
Speaker 6: alcohol start kicking in. Then that's why you might have
Speaker 6: thought he was my bodyguard. I'd go in there to
Speaker 6: be a woman over there, but she would a guy.
Speaker 6: But I don't care, you know, I'll go over there
Speaker 6: and do.
Speaker 1: Some raunchy shit because they took they said, do you
Speaker 1: yourself d o C dropping off cock?
Speaker 9: Okay, I shouldn't standing up.
Speaker 5: Job.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but what well.
Speaker 5: That's not that's not a thousand, but it's close close enough.
Speaker 6: You know, we was, we was getting it in back then.
Speaker 6: But still them boys didn't want to let me play.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: But you said something one time, you said, it's some doors. Ye,
Speaker 5: I'm not a door guy. I didn't go to the
Speaker 5: door either, because I'm already on that all. If I
Speaker 5: go through that door, it's gonna be a whole lot of.
Speaker 6: Because I'm not gonna lie to accept none of that.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be a proper.
Speaker 5: Don't let that again.
Speaker 1: You you you Yeah. But one thing again about the documentary,
Speaker 1: which is so dope. It's not to only see people
Speaker 1: give you your flowers and give you your praises, but
Speaker 1: to see how many people are actually your fans. Like
Speaker 1: I've never seen Imminem like be vulnerable like that. I've
Speaker 1: never seen doctor Drake smile like that. Like you can
Speaker 1: tell like he really like like you his brother, like
Speaker 1: like it had nothing to do with blood. You can
Speaker 1: just tell, like the way he talks about you. Everything
Speaker 1: is just like I love I love that people are
Speaker 1: not afraid to give you your flowers. Do you feel that?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Bro, I love that.
Speaker 1: I love it. But it's not the type of character
Speaker 1: you are, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But when when one of the things that you see
Speaker 6: when you see that that film is exactly what you've never.
Speaker 5: Seen Drake like that, right, I never seen the mother.
Speaker 5: Brother's happy, But how did that happen?
Speaker 6: And so I know in his heart he's happy because
Speaker 6: he can see this guy might be finally getting to
Speaker 6: that stage where he's gonna stand up and take care
Speaker 6: of his business, right you know? So it's that big
Speaker 6: brother shit. But you've seen anything. Even when he started
Speaker 6: talking ship, I'm right there.
Speaker 5: I love ship.
Speaker 1: Hello, and he wanted to he.
Speaker 5: Want to play me about that?
Speaker 1: Listen, y'all, I haven't watched this on your job? When
Speaker 1: is this dropping? When is this coming?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: What I'm still dealing with.
Speaker 6: I'm still dealing with the with the see it now,
Speaker 6: you gotta be very careful.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: I'm not a door guy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: And so I gotta figure out what what rush the door?
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Because it's important. It's an
Speaker 6: important film. Not just for me and nigga boing my
Speaker 6: I'm I'm West Dallas. Nigga tryna get my bearings back
Speaker 6: and and and make this life mean some shit right
Speaker 6: Other than this, nigga can rap her.
Speaker 5: But you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I got a seven year old son and a nine
Speaker 6: year old son, and Jill d waited til I became
Speaker 6: a man, m to give me those gifts, cause I
Speaker 6: understand that in order for them to become a man,
Speaker 6: they have to see a man m.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So I have to be a man that means those
Speaker 6: things that I those childish things. I gotta let that
Speaker 6: shit go. You know, all the the the playing games
Speaker 6: for females a well, now all the playing games.
Speaker 5: Not show you know better, you know, being a a
Speaker 5: righteous father.
Speaker 6: And not just for my son, my sons, because it's
Speaker 6: a lot of sons that don't have nothing, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, trying to represent for them where I
Speaker 6: come from, because that to me, it's just.
Speaker 5: Is just super important.
Speaker 6: When I start trying to do work in the community,
Speaker 6: man and understanding what these young boys is doing out there,
Speaker 6: and I said, will blow your mind.
Speaker 5: Bro, and you wonder how hot the hell? Well what what?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 5: It's just fucking nuts and what you thinking?
Speaker 1: What's going on now? Yeah? Yeah, like even people making disreconds,
Speaker 1: that's actually recons that's kill kill you record. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: never thought thought it'd be that's that's it.
Speaker 6: But that's that bullshit. That that's that ego ship. Everybody
Speaker 6: want to be what Saint Jordan's don't. Nobody want to
Speaker 6: be Scotty. Everybody want to be the biggest, baddest, you know,
Speaker 6: wolf wolf.
Speaker 3: It's like brainwashedh it to think that this is the
Speaker 3: route to take that, to go public with these crazy things,
Speaker 3: doing these things you're talking about, it.
Speaker 5: Gets you popular.
Speaker 1: It's why these.
Speaker 6: Boys don't think about where you're gonna be at in
Speaker 6: five years. That's what If you ask them that that
Speaker 6: that'll be the hardest question in they like to answer
Speaker 6: because they don't think that far. They think you can
Speaker 6: go out and shoot the motherfucker on Tuesday, and next
Speaker 6: week they'll do shit again. And that's I don't understand
Speaker 6: that once you start playing those games, that that life
Speaker 6: is different, man, you know I man, and you might
Speaker 6: not never make it back to these Now I'm giving
Speaker 6: these kids jews from this experience because driving with that
Speaker 6: all in me and reckon out on that freeway, that
Speaker 6: shit took almost thirty years from me before I got
Speaker 6: back to a space where I can, you know, handle
Speaker 6: some business. You know, but I keep telling you it's
Speaker 6: g O D thing.
Speaker 3: But look at do me a favor though, humor meaning
Speaker 3: let's take it back, because I want I want to
Speaker 3: get into the meat and potato of how you got
Speaker 3: to hear go back to Texas, feel a fresh crew
Speaker 3: is starting? How do you how does that connect to
Speaker 3: Ruthless Records? How does how do you become an m C?
Speaker 3: How does that connect to Ruthless Records?
Speaker 1: Because I've seen an interview with Easy said he was
Speaker 1: part of a rack crew. I was like, damn, bro,
Speaker 1: that's how he ad. That's just he was talking about.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, and we went we weren't the best.
Speaker 1: He was hard like that.
Speaker 6: But uh yeah, So the DJ that group was dude
Speaker 6: that was on the radio. He used to be in
Speaker 6: the in the same DJ crew that Drake came.
Speaker 1: From Working crew. Yeah, really okay, when.
Speaker 5: It was just DJs Florida before they.
Speaker 1: Started, when there was wearing the shiny Jackets Jackets. They
Speaker 1: didn't make it till that level because that was and
Speaker 1: they was good already.
Speaker 6: So when he made it to Dallas, he had a
Speaker 6: lot of their underground records, and he made their underground
Speaker 6: music god in Dalla Dallas. And then when they visited Dallas,
Speaker 6: dre heard me. He was like, bro, you just shit.
Speaker 6: If you was in La we'll be rich. And I
Speaker 6: was like, shit, let's.
Speaker 5: Let's steal it.
Speaker 1: Let's go get the guys judging your musical for the
Speaker 1: FEEDO crew. Yeah, okay, continue, but he's singling you out
Speaker 1: and the crew.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because when I said let's go get the other guys,
Speaker 6: he was like, nah, I ain't talking about.
Speaker 1: That because you wouldn't because it just feel the fresh
Speaker 1: crew in here.
Speaker 6: But but I was like, nah, I came. I mean, now, hey,
Speaker 6: hell no, I can't just go to California.
Speaker 5: They gonna lay my.
Speaker 1: Because I think that partner's interested about that is you
Speaker 1: not only moved to California, but you moved to Compton,
Speaker 1: which you said, I believe you described it as a
Speaker 1: beautiful place in the daytime, but nighttime all home.
Speaker 3: But that's how early in the development of Ruthless that
Speaker 3: you moved in like basically with them.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, it was a It was a
Speaker 5: motherfucker because I'm not a bro.
Speaker 6: I'm not a thug dude, That's never been my I'm
Speaker 6: a writer. I'm an artist for real, man. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: love and breed to be good at that, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. And so when I went out there
Speaker 6: and them boys started, you know, I'm gonna do what
Speaker 6: I can to help y'all. I knew that you're never
Speaker 6: gonna be able to get where you can. You're never
Speaker 6: gonna be able to be all that you can be
Speaker 6: unless you can get this stuff that you're doing on
Speaker 6: the radio. So I can write the kind of songs
Speaker 6: fright Eric that are funny.
Speaker 1: And be easy for people who don't know.
Speaker 6: That are that are funny and entertaining that won't scare
Speaker 6: white folks.
Speaker 5: You know, they're they'll laugh. I wanna. And so that's
Speaker 5: that was my job.
Speaker 1: So you came up with kind of making him a
Speaker 1: character in a child because you you easy does it?
Speaker 5: Yeah? No, easy does it? Yeah? Easy does it?
Speaker 1: And the playful rhymes, the way he played loud.
Speaker 5: Okay, I do a motherfucking walk by, you know, just
Speaker 5: funny ship in a way that the gang uh street
Speaker 5: guys were respected and Easy could carry it because he's
Speaker 5: not faking he Oh yeah, oh, he's one thousand percent.
Speaker 1: I never got to me Easy, and I never got
Speaker 1: to be Tupac.
Speaker 5: Tupac was a real one too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sh you never got that close, real.
Speaker 5: Real ship talker.
Speaker 6: He talked ship to me all the time, but he
Speaker 6: waited till I had the wreck and start stalking that ship.
Speaker 6: He first time I met him, he was he was
Speaker 6: still dancing for uh Underground right he was in He
Speaker 6: was in a limo, and then then we rode from
Speaker 6: the limo to the I was performing with those guys.
Speaker 6: My single just came out, performing in Kansas City or somewhere.
Speaker 5: We rode in the limo. Got never said two words
Speaker 5: to me. You know. Now, fast forward after my wreck
Speaker 5: thing happened.
Speaker 6: He and mc breed we're really good friends and uh
Speaker 6: direct didn't happened to chronicle all the uh that stuff
Speaker 6: has happened, and we in at Atlanta. I think this
Speaker 6: is when he around the time he getting into it
Speaker 6: with the police and tearing up Itchy bond over Breed
Speaker 6: all of that stuff and he, uh, I'm at Brede's
Speaker 6: house and he flies in died for some brother man.
Speaker 6: They finally ran your ass. I forgot that. I didn't
Speaker 6: like that. That made me mad, you know. Yeah it's true,
Speaker 6: you know, Uh, but Nigga not in him good? Uh
Speaker 6: but no he was Uh, he was a little ship talking.
Speaker 6: But he had a he had a heart of gold,
Speaker 6: you know, and a solid brother.
Speaker 5: And and I have similarities in that seminis. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: now we're we're great writers and thinkers and good good
Speaker 5: on the inside and shouldn't And it was in that
Speaker 5: space what we shouldn't have been, right, you know, those
Speaker 5: aren't our people. We shouldn't have been in the middle of.
Speaker 1: That, right now, do you do there's there's there's something
Speaker 1: found what he just said. No, I know that there's
Speaker 1: something that I wanted to reiterated. Think about the No
Speaker 1: Bazanline record. Rice Scool comes out with this record.
Speaker 5: The.
Speaker 1: Greatest inside of it.
Speaker 3: At that point, yeah, well, did you feel like I
Speaker 3: gotta go petitive this back?
Speaker 5: I was like ni.
Speaker 3: Because it never n w A never did a full
Speaker 3: dis It was only just some shots in some songs.
Speaker 1: But but but Benedict Donald, I think was the one.
Speaker 1: But did. Did anybody from the crew get mad at you?
Speaker 1: Like why he ain't say your name? Another one?
Speaker 5: Because there was.
Speaker 1: Because every everybody if this drink chest and they don't
Speaker 1: this e f N. I think you got something going on.
Speaker 5: I think you knew because he had come to the
Speaker 5: hospital and seeing oh wow wow, he knew it'd be
Speaker 5: like trying to beat up a handicapped kid at that point,
Speaker 5: so he just told their ass other than I. But
Speaker 5: I was so happy about that because he hate.
Speaker 3: Breakfast, you know, the greatest record his.
Speaker 9: Music from the first line the last. You don't let
Speaker 9: up on none of them.
Speaker 1: But this is a famous argument that we had on
Speaker 1: drink chefs. Well, he famously had man, we're gonna bring
Speaker 1: it up here. Yes, he famously had it. And this
Speaker 1: ice cube or Biggie Smalls. That wasn't the way it
Speaker 1: started to I hate Did you hear about this argument?
Speaker 1: What did you think of this argument? Well, if I'm
Speaker 1: being honest, you have to be pleased.
Speaker 6: That's a hard one, bro, because they are too the
Speaker 6: greatest storytellers ever, but they're telling.
Speaker 1: Him in different ways, in different ways.
Speaker 6: And see I'm a MC and so the white Big
Speaker 6: Swing is me in a competition. I can compete with
Speaker 6: that the ship that you'll be doing, I can't compete
Speaker 6: with that ship because he's doing it in a way
Speaker 6: that that's unfamiliar to me. And it's always that furnst
Speaker 6: line and in any of the songs where he added
Speaker 6: it's the first time you know on yeah, you know
Speaker 6: he's gonna tell your ass up from that first goddamn line.
Speaker 6: God damn, I'm glad y'all said it. I'll say, you
Speaker 6: already know some shit.
Speaker 1: I gonna lie. I think that was the quietest I've
Speaker 1: ever been in Drink Champ's history, because I had no opinion.
Speaker 3: I just left them again to set the record strat.
Speaker 3: It wasn't what you're saying. He just asked me. Tony
Speaker 3: asked me who was my favorite? I said it Cube
Speaker 3: was always my favorite. And then he just took offense
Speaker 3: to Q being my favorite and then throw Biggie. And
Speaker 3: then that's when we started going back.
Speaker 1: Because I understand both arguments. I clearly understand both arguments.
Speaker 1: Like if you're from East Coast, when Biggie came out,
Speaker 1: there is very few moments other than when Eddie Murphy
Speaker 1: came out that it was just a Chris due Locke like,
Speaker 1: and we literally couldn't hear nothing else but Biggie on
Speaker 1: the New York side, including anybody into hip hop. This
Speaker 1: is anything else but Biggie. But I was too young
Speaker 1: to actually fill the first version of ice Cube Wave.
Speaker 3: So that's the reason why I was like, I was
Speaker 3: a diehard fan. Listen, I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: Before I met West Coast hip hop, I was scared
Speaker 1: of all West Coast artists because y'all described the shit.
Speaker 1: I thought Compton was a jail straight out of Compton.
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be locked up here. Like I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? But because it was so different from
Speaker 1: the East Coast that when you described it, it was
Speaker 1: like Holy ship. Like when just just hearing the description of.
Speaker 3: West Coast, they changed hip hop the way that they
Speaker 3: came out and conveyed that emotion that hadn't been done
Speaker 3: in hip hop's in my opinion, and just going back
Speaker 3: to the ice Cube thing, my favorite groups of the
Speaker 3: time were n w A and Public Enemy. When Q
Speaker 3: belize and it's with the Bomb Squad that's it. It's
Speaker 3: solidified for me, who my favorite MC at that time was.
Speaker 5: Right, there's a lot of synergy between Yeah.
Speaker 1: To me, it's the same opposite side to respect.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 1: And they had the same energy.
Speaker 5: Dre and I every single morning on the way to
Speaker 5: the studio listened to her. It takes a nation.
Speaker 1: Every get me. Wow. Wow, that's that's that's that's great.
Speaker 6: It was that same energy from from their perspective. That's
Speaker 6: why I had that. And it was supposed to go
Speaker 6: that way. But the machine, the door guys.
Speaker 1: The fucking door guy store guys got it.
Speaker 6: And said we can do it like this and it'll
Speaker 6: do that, and we bought that shitty Crush Groove is
Speaker 6: my favorite movie of all time. Right, it's when Galaxy
Speaker 6: Records came. Galaxy Records all mofucker.
Speaker 5: Man. I wanted to beat ship out there, whoever the
Speaker 5: guy was that played Galaxy Records in the movie, because
Speaker 5: he still run away from Russell in the movie. And
Speaker 5: that's what the game got shitted on.
Speaker 1: Man. You know, I heard you say in the interview
Speaker 1: as well. He said Easy and Sugar went through the
Speaker 1: same thing, and I thought that was so deep because
Speaker 1: I don't think I think Easy, I think Sugar. Example,
Speaker 1: was easy to the fact that if what you're saying
Speaker 1: is true, that means that Shure didn't learn from Easy.
Speaker 1: He took easies as like whatever. But most street those
Speaker 1: are the two street gangsters that I knew, you know,
Speaker 1: in the industry. I mean not no, like no. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I knew about.
Speaker 3: Easy was that was a powerful thing, like what y'all
Speaker 3: was doing.
Speaker 1: And then death Row. I had never seen that neither
Speaker 1: you to be a part of both fucking movements. The
Speaker 1: world hadn't seen what de Throw created. The world didn't
Speaker 1: see what n w A created, but you can you
Speaker 1: can see the environment that the music was created death Row.
Speaker 1: I had never seen so much power at one point.
Speaker 1: At one point, I remember meeting me going to meet
Speaker 1: Leo Cohens one time through the guard. He was in
Speaker 1: Vegas and Leo cohmes, he meets me and he goes,
Speaker 1: I just set.
Speaker 3: Fro guice really like, you know, because I'm on my
Speaker 3: own dick at the time. I'm like, wait, death Row guys,
Speaker 3: so whatever. Every one of them had a presidential and
Speaker 3: I was just like, at the time, I didn't know
Speaker 3: what that shit meant, but I knew what he was saying.
Speaker 1: He was like, no, normal, you don't understand. It's most
Speaker 1: of the time it's one Rowlex or it's one He's
Speaker 1: like every fucking person walking with death Row had a
Speaker 1: new fucking Rolex. He said, he ran out the way.
Speaker 1: This is what you think because he wanted that for
Speaker 1: every death Jam artist. Is that what I believe he did.
Speaker 1: I believe he didn't want that, and I believe that
Speaker 1: that was the first time you see like black power.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if it was abused because I
Speaker 1: wasn't privileged to be around that much. But I remember that,
Speaker 1: and I remember and this is not no racial thing,
Speaker 1: but I remember, this is the most powerful white man
Speaker 1: in the industry. And he looked at me like, joh,
Speaker 1: let's not go downstairs right now, like the death real
Speaker 1: guys just walked by.
Speaker 5: I was like, what, no, no, bro, he was a
Speaker 5: small guy to get that ship.
Speaker 1: A little bit and maybe a young dumb full of
Speaker 1: come from the hood. I'm not even respecting it. But boy,
Speaker 1: but I had no winds. I did not know that.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is.
Speaker 5: Some of the things that I have seen, right, my brother,
Speaker 5: what So.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is because this is what I want
Speaker 1: to ask. We got to get it. You got to
Speaker 1: see you got to see easy one of the most
Speaker 1: powerful black street guys. It's very important for us to say,
Speaker 1: you know, street not because of maybe not the education,
Speaker 1: but for where he came from. Here, because it's possible
Speaker 1: that a street guy right now can do it and
Speaker 1: do it right.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 1: Then you got Shug who actually kind of wasn't a
Speaker 1: street guy. It was a college guy that actually got
Speaker 1: some street education and from the streets wore up right
Speaker 1: two different opposites and ended up the same exact work.
Speaker 6: You know what, bro, you just added a level to
Speaker 6: it to that I hadn't even thought of a right
Speaker 6: and and that's the hell of a point, you know,
Speaker 6: because I don't know shoes DNA, I don't know his
Speaker 6: story real I hear it the same way that other
Speaker 6: both do.
Speaker 5: I know that he's a thrill and twenty five dog
Speaker 5: out there.
Speaker 1: You know that.
Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, he's not mad, he's not scared. He's
Speaker 5: gonna make it, do what to do.
Speaker 6: But I don't want no point from none of that ship,
Speaker 6: you know, unless I'm loaded, and.
Speaker 5: Then let's go get it. But the difference between he
Speaker 5: and Eric.
Speaker 1: That's easy bigger itself up from heaven right now? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: call me Easy, I call me Eric.
Speaker 3: Do you see difference between easy and it?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 6: Sure Easy was quiet, but just as powerful. Sure was
Speaker 6: flashy with his power. He wanted you to know it,
Speaker 6: but Eric wouldn't. Didn't want you to unless you had
Speaker 6: to know it. But you know he was because he
Speaker 6: was getting it and you gotta show it.
Speaker 1: Off because he didn't want to even wrap originally. Right.
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 5: Well, that's what they said, because.
Speaker 3: That's what That's what I've heard a bunch of times.
Speaker 3: They was like clowning them to get into the booth.
Speaker 5: He didn't have any rap skills at all.
Speaker 1: I love that. His rhythm was horrible, but he had charisma.
Speaker 5: Character. That's right, that voice and that it that you
Speaker 5: gotta have to be a and authenticity.
Speaker 1: That's right or what he was talking about.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 1: Because one line he said, ice Cube writes the romes down.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how hard that line was, so I
Speaker 1: got older. I was like, he said, you.
Speaker 6: Said, I had no idea he was gonna say that.
Speaker 1: I really want to say, I'm not gonna fake it
Speaker 1: on the record.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you exactly what's going on, right, And
Speaker 3: you know what, it's crazy. I don't think there's no
Speaker 3: one in this world that don't look at Easy as
Speaker 3: over see. I know everyone listen, he told that to
Speaker 3: our face. He didn't he wasn't behind the back.
Speaker 6: And they arguing about all of these guys and the
Speaker 6: trade something of these kind of that where he can't
Speaker 6: be this because they all love it easiest the one,
Speaker 6: you know. But that's that's the nature of this. That's
Speaker 6: why I try never to get into those those colors
Speaker 6: conversations because you notice this game, nor yet the artists.
Speaker 6: We stand on the shoulders and those that came before us, nobody.
Speaker 6: You can't be those that came after me. You can't
Speaker 6: be the greatest without me, So we the greatest someone.
Speaker 3: It's a collective, it's a colue over the hell you
Speaker 3: are true, But hold up you saying and I want
Speaker 3: to clarify because you said that they ended up in
Speaker 3: the same place, Sugar and Easy.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? Because he pretty much
Speaker 1: like you know, came to power and then you know,
Speaker 1: lost their power. That's what Because we really don't know
Speaker 1: what would have happened with easy had he survived. That's true.
Speaker 5: See doctor Dre was the keeting everything, so.
Speaker 3: You think that's it. Once Dre left, what happened? You
Speaker 3: don't think they would have ever amended their their problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they did. Talks about seeing easy in
Speaker 1: New York at the club. I think I think even
Speaker 1: even in the movie, didn't they say that Dre him
Speaker 1: at the hospital.
Speaker 6: Orth Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that they would have figured
Speaker 6: they started out, yeah at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: but but now business is vass Or is different.
Speaker 5: You can't go back to that.
Speaker 1: So you're saying it could have been another record besides
Speaker 1: Grand Finale. I would have loved this too.
Speaker 3: Then we can't forget Ren and a part of that
Speaker 3: equation such an incredible as well.
Speaker 1: You know what, I wanted to see easy E with
Speaker 1: a Twitter, easy E on Instagram. He might not a
Speaker 1: humor social media Nah, I think he would. I think
Speaker 1: I think he would have been I think I think
Speaker 1: he would have decision.
Speaker 5: He didn't have made a dollar.
Speaker 1: And I notice is kind of a cliche to say
Speaker 1: right now, right because most people when they're making history,
Speaker 1: they kind of don't know they're making history or sometimes
Speaker 1: it's kind of like you do you do know it
Speaker 1: from the n WA days, Did you know you was
Speaker 1: a part of the most iconic group that thirty five
Speaker 1: years later, people is still the same exact way it's like,
Speaker 1: and people are still saying the same exact message. It's
Speaker 1: still fuck the police thirty five years later.
Speaker 5: I knew, we didn't know. I knew, bro, I knew. See.
Speaker 5: Most think the gift is in my pen, but it's
Speaker 5: in my ears.
Speaker 6: Oh, same as d thinks it's in its production. And
Speaker 6: it's engineering. That's what the that's what the magic is.
Speaker 6: So anybody, anybody can make a head record.
Speaker 5: Anybody can we know, consistent making great ship, consistent quality. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you have to have quality control. And that's hard for
Speaker 5: niggas that don't give a fuck about quality. They just
Speaker 5: give a fuck about.
Speaker 6: Making sure that you don't disrespect them or they look
Speaker 6: a certain way, or it's the stuff they talking about.
Speaker 6: But Dre is an animal when it when it comes
Speaker 6: to quality control. But those aren't rumors when they say
Speaker 6: you'll be in there behind that microphone, not hours on
Speaker 6: a word on a word he said. Now, when I
Speaker 6: put the script on his ass and got him in.
Speaker 1: There that you don't like that, But.
Speaker 5: He taught me that you.
Speaker 3: Probably the only one who could do that to him.
Speaker 3: Though I think he don't like it, that's good, that's great.
Speaker 5: He does not like it.
Speaker 1: I bet you the vocals come out good. That's right,
Speaker 1: that's what we want.
Speaker 6: And uh uh, but I've seen them boys grow into
Speaker 6: great iconic figures and I'm I'm extremely blessed that I
Speaker 6: call them guys and my brothers right and to have
Speaker 6: been on that journey with them man and go through
Speaker 6: that learning process. But but ship, I'm ready for mine now.
Speaker 6: You know, I love my guys, but I'm trying. I'm
Speaker 6: trying to make some new dealc ship starting with that
Speaker 6: film right then going into these communities with these schools
Speaker 6: and these programs.
Speaker 5: Then more mut.
Speaker 6: Music, whether I had an operation M or just use
Speaker 6: this AI opportunity. You know, I haven't figured that out yet.
Speaker 1: AI opportunity saying like use the AI for little bit
Speaker 1: his penant. He'll he could even say if lady was
Speaker 1: trying to do that, Yeah, I heard that too.
Speaker 5: I think cigarettes out to me about that. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 5: and uh, you know, everybody feel this way.
Speaker 6: They feel that way, but it's not possible for me
Speaker 6: unless I get those masters back. So when the lady
Speaker 6: called and said she was interested in giving me my
Speaker 6: master's back, it seemed like a g O.
Speaker 1: D thing.
Speaker 5: Okay, you ain't gotta go get cut on it. If
Speaker 5: you you want it back that bad, I'll give it
Speaker 5: to you. You know, trying to tell me that this
Speaker 5: voice is important.
Speaker 6: You need to keep this one because when you talk now,
Speaker 6: motherfuckers are doing this trying to what the fuck you
Speaker 6: gotta say. And so I'm gonna take it advantage of
Speaker 6: that that opportunity and and do the right thing with it.
Speaker 6: But artistically, it's much more important for me to see
Speaker 6: if I could do in Dallas for what I did,
Speaker 6: and Dallas for worth of what what I helped do
Speaker 6: in l A. That's where I'm at with it.
Speaker 1: It's a legacy thing for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I ain't got the money yet, but uh, I got
Speaker 6: my mind back. I mean, that's the most important thing.
Speaker 6: I don't you know, I don't consume.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: I try to stay away from all things for that now.
Speaker 6: Now will smoke a little bit, which I will smoke it, uh,
Speaker 6: but you know, I lead other stuff along because it's
Speaker 6: a detriment to me and other folks that have struggled
Speaker 6: with that stuff. I try to, uh, you know, be
Speaker 6: responsible enough to be a light for other people that
Speaker 6: might be going through that same ship that I had
Speaker 6: to go through, because it's not gonna help you, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean.
Speaker 5: If you're run him from some ship trying to.
Speaker 6: Find it in a bottle or in them pills or
Speaker 6: or that that that that yeah yo, or whatever you're fucking.
Speaker 1: With, just be honest a poison.
Speaker 5: I in love what.
Speaker 6: You know, whatever you're doing it, you're only gonna get
Speaker 6: past about by by facing your demon right whatever.
Speaker 1: That is. Another one, let's talk about Future Shock right.
Speaker 1: That was the name of the label before Death Row
Speaker 1: Right and then and at that time when it was
Speaker 1: called Future Shot, I believe it was you, Dre and
Speaker 1: Shock as partners.
Speaker 6: It was me and Dre's company on the thirty five
Speaker 6: percent apiece. Okay, uh, there was h thirty percent left
Speaker 6: and Sugar and Dick Griffy where that where to split.
Speaker 1: That that that Harry came after that, yeah, okay, so
Speaker 1: so Sugar Dick Griffy took the other half.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, by the time Ireo came Sugar and Drake took
Speaker 6: it a haul, and and and when they did their
Speaker 6: business with uh, with Jimmy.
Speaker 1: With Jimmy, and what was your relationship with Jimmy. He's
Speaker 1: the only one I didn't see it in the documentary.
Speaker 6: I think Jimmy is a great guy. He's been He's
Speaker 6: been a real positive uh influence on Dre right and
Speaker 6: helping him get to where he is today. Right they
Speaker 6: made He's helped my my guy make big as the dollars, right.
Speaker 6: And so I can't get anybody a lot for Jimmy,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: And i'ma I'm gonna stick. I'm gonna stick with that story.
Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of felt like Jimmy was
Speaker 1: special when when Dre left right and it was said
Speaker 1: because I mean, obviously I'm not in the business like that,
Speaker 1: it was said that he left millions behind, like when
Speaker 1: he left death Row, he left millions behind, but he
Speaker 1: chose to leave, but he chose to stick with Jimmy's right.
Speaker 1: I knew that they had a special type of relationship.
Speaker 1: I knew that Jimmy had to make whatever it was
Speaker 1: with sug right, but he had to make sure that
Speaker 1: he made sure his golden chob was right, and I
Speaker 1: remember it was an aftermath project and then it was
Speaker 1: a Firm project, which I was a part of. I
Speaker 1: was a part of the Firm project was one of
Speaker 1: one of the most successful records on the Firm projects.
Speaker 1: You can look it up. You can look it up.
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember, like I mean, recording with Dre
Speaker 1: at that time, and you know, he was recorded with
Speaker 1: a bunch of East Coast guys nas A Z. Kimmels around.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I believe, no, I don't think he was around that,
Speaker 1: and I believe it was like Dre's like like I
Speaker 1: don't want to call it purgatory, but it's like somewhere
Speaker 1: where like you know, it wasn't he wasn't. He wasn't.
Speaker 1: He was getting it together still. It's getting together still.
Speaker 1: And I just remember him sticking with Jimmy, and I
Speaker 1: remember there's something special about that relationship. There's something because
Speaker 1: most people, like with the strict situation, he would have blamed.
Speaker 1: Most people were blamed Jimmy as well.
Speaker 3: Because he wasn't in business with both of them at
Speaker 3: the same time, but both of them.
Speaker 1: But the fact that Drake didn't and it was like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move on, but I'm gonna move on with you.
Speaker 1: I knew that Jimmy was bro.
Speaker 6: It ain't want to see you know, and you know
Speaker 6: what was going on in that But sure that created
Speaker 6: this world, but he controlled it. Dude said, content is
Speaker 6: like prison, and really going to that studio every day
Speaker 6: it was being like being on the yard. You know
Speaker 6: you bro, it was it was rough. They was in
Speaker 6: there looking like they was ready to bench press eight
Speaker 6: thousand pounds.
Speaker 5: And ready to just do whatever going on.
Speaker 1: Because I know this blood. I mean remember the Warren
Speaker 1: g story alone. I don't remember you ever seeing you
Speaker 1: wear rat at all. Look like you, brother, I don't
Speaker 1: remember you ever seeing you wear rat.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I wear red. Oh you know, Mom'm just
Speaker 5: a gu'ma I'm a good nigga. Ray I can go.
Speaker 5: I can go anywhere. Yes, I go to I go
Speaker 5: to content. If I'm in, if I'm on one side,
Speaker 5: they call me d oc. If I'm on the other side,
Speaker 5: they call me d o B. I answered, everybody, it's
Speaker 5: all good because I never going to I never understood that.
Speaker 1: That uh, the politics and.
Speaker 6: Mentality the way the way they did. I was raised
Speaker 6: in Dallas, Texas, man we.
Speaker 1: Did in the projects.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't get out like that, right, you.
Speaker 1: Know we was in gang banging going on.
Speaker 5: Well, when I left, there wasn't banging.
Speaker 1: Right until I came back. Yeah, or when I came
Speaker 1: blood and gripping.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen to the ice cue Summer vacation, right. Oh,
Speaker 3: I always saying this shod the movie of that doll
Speaker 3: explain everything.
Speaker 6: I left Dallas in eighty seven, eighty eight. When I
Speaker 6: came back with a finished record in eighty nine, when
Speaker 6: I left, it looked like everybody looked like Hudiny. When
Speaker 6: I came back, everybody looked like Easy, the whole.
Speaker 1: Fucking city era.
Speaker 5: It was like a cultural shock and shit, I was like,
Speaker 5: what the fuck did happened?
Speaker 1: Like these people haven't changed with me. You were to
Speaker 1: call and they went to Collon too.
Speaker 5: I came back. I thought I was messing with They
Speaker 5: all looked like me, and.
Speaker 1: We was all trying to look like Eric Easy.
Speaker 6: But what but what you what you said earlier today,
Speaker 6: uh about that time period is exactly correct, right, that
Speaker 6: hip hop is still in that same spot, and Easy
Speaker 6: is still the prototype for every hip hop commercially successful
Speaker 6: artist that's in the game.
Speaker 5: Ninety nine point nine percent of them today.
Speaker 1: Right. I mean if you listen to what you guys
Speaker 1: was waiting for Easy and you listen to Trill, your
Speaker 1: other father of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen to Trill music now Cbe was no, No,
Speaker 3: you gotta take that part too.
Speaker 1: No, I tell you that you gotta take that part
Speaker 1: to Cube was.
Speaker 5: The spirit but in w A that's why it had
Speaker 5: a revolutionary.
Speaker 1: Right on Cube lift Easy.
Speaker 5: Is just a thug just want to talk about murder, death, guil.
Speaker 6: They don't give a fuck who dies, And so that's
Speaker 6: wh it turned into that and that's what the world
Speaker 6: was built up off of.
Speaker 5: And at least as far the music is concerned.
Speaker 3: But I mean had a little revolutionary site. It was
Speaker 3: just he was way more hardcore about.
Speaker 5: It, right, But Cube was que led led those guys
Speaker 5: musically artistically. Yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: When when when he rolled and we followed the pathy
Speaker 6: when he left, you know, everybody's just talking about, like
Speaker 6: I said, murder, death, guil uh rn and started doing
Speaker 6: uh it's more revolutionary stuff that he did his record
Speaker 6: and then he could lead this because he was following error.
Speaker 6: He was following the Easies lead after Cube left.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what's crazy people say that since
Speaker 1: then that was that's probably like the West the last
Speaker 1: West Coast on West Coast Beat.
Speaker 5: Or l A.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're game and rast cast but other
Speaker 1: than ice.
Speaker 3: Cube Verse and and it got got pretty serious with
Speaker 3: the Lynch Mob and and with n w A.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it got pretty serious to step in, right, I
Speaker 1: don't remember.
Speaker 5: I think farrakhn was a part.
Speaker 1: Of q Cormon and yeah he got involved in that one, yep.
Speaker 5: But but it may have been the hostile on records,
Speaker 5: but it never made it streets, Yeah, never made it
Speaker 5: very far. Chase Dreve wasn't trying to and I don't
Speaker 5: think easy was it was.
Speaker 6: You know, he was still winning, right, you know, he
Speaker 6: had found the bone guys, right, so he was back
Speaker 6: in the game, mh. And we was just trying to
Speaker 6: figure out how we going in where the you go now?
Speaker 6: Because Cravers, I don't want to say afraid he didn't
Speaker 6: know what he was gonna do. You know, he didn't
Speaker 6: want to do a record. He didn't like his voice,
Speaker 6: you don't like how he sounds. He doesn't think he
Speaker 6: could carry up a solo record, like yes, you can.
Speaker 1: Just want to be behind the boards.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but no, bro, you all we.
Speaker 1: Got his name was too big.
Speaker 6: He was the one and don't worry about it. I'm
Speaker 6: gonna be right here and we don't want to woo.
Speaker 6: But he didn't feel it. But when Snoop came and
Speaker 6: uh one, she played a demo which Snoop Yeah.
Speaker 1: Two three, that's warm and g Snoop and.
Speaker 6: Yeah played at a bachelor party for somebody that's crazy,
Speaker 6: and and the bachelor party loved Snoop. Snoop came to
Speaker 6: the studio the next day or two and and.
Speaker 5: That was it. You know, it was on after that
Speaker 5: and they he moved.
Speaker 6: Snoop moved from Long Beach into my house in the
Speaker 6: valley and we did that for about six months. Then
Speaker 6: I got kicked out and we all moved into drad
Speaker 6: But that's how he got made. But we be in
Speaker 6: that small and dank and somebody will say something and
Speaker 6: then we'll be back at it.
Speaker 5: You know, it was beautiful. It was beautiful times because
Speaker 5: it was just a close knit group of friends.
Speaker 1: I can't lie to you when I look at the footage.
Speaker 1: Are y'all making the chronic and y'all just in the
Speaker 1: studio and Dre hitting the pianos and y'all just sitting
Speaker 1: there bullshitting like I just wanted to be a fucking
Speaker 1: fly on the wall, bro Like, because again, I just
Speaker 1: asked you this question earlier. Did you know he was
Speaker 1: making history? He said, you kind of did.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, you had to know him because already what
Speaker 3: you're accomplished of that.
Speaker 1: Even if that's the case, you might have known you
Speaker 1: making history and you don't know the grad video is
Speaker 1: because I mean, you know how it's gonna impact where
Speaker 1: it's gonna go.
Speaker 5: Well, when you made the chronic you heard just like
Speaker 5: you heard it.
Speaker 1: I heard it. Imagine that the studio you already know
Speaker 1: what it was.
Speaker 6: And you went from she Thinks to little Ghetto Boy
Speaker 6: to raditat Tide and all of these. He was like, Oh,
Speaker 6: he's finna kill these mother and then Snoop is gonna
Speaker 6: be matter of fact, one Deep Covered drop. Yeah, he
Speaker 6: was like, oh man, this shit is over with this
Speaker 6: nigga's mylan and Dre the video to Deep Covered Trade
Speaker 6: didn't even want to do the video. I had to
Speaker 6: trick him to get up in.
Speaker 5: The show and say just give him a.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: He was salted at the mother bird because he didn't
Speaker 6: want to do the video. By the time you got
Speaker 6: your ass up there, you lake the back out.
Speaker 8: Now you can kind of see it in his face
Speaker 8: I think in the video.
Speaker 1: Damn, like he's bitter.
Speaker 5: He was bist want to be there. You had to
Speaker 5: get him now.
Speaker 3: But that record single handedly was like they set off
Speaker 3: that whole movement, and it was crazy because it's who
Speaker 3: is Dre. Everybody knows Dre, and it's this brand new
Speaker 3: artist being put out there equally with Dre. So that's
Speaker 3: what makes a crazy impact.
Speaker 6: Everyone's scared to death if you if you look at that,
Speaker 6: that video so bad as a problem connecting with the camera,
Speaker 6: the camera because he doesn't know yet.
Speaker 1: All street people, well, let me tell you something. If
Speaker 1: you from the streets, if you look at anybody that's
Speaker 1: from the streets, you cannot look at the camera direct
Speaker 1: because we were taught not to be in front of
Speaker 1: the cameras, and then we go from not to be
Speaker 1: in front of the cameras to saying, hey, oh so
Speaker 1: you're always the most awkward in your first year. So said,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Continue the g Thang video.
Speaker 6: You see it the deep cover video. You see it,
Speaker 6: but now you're seeing you know what I mean. But
Speaker 6: he's got he's on him. He's making shrimps with Martha.
Speaker 6: Now you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's all up there with old Martha. But Martha did
Speaker 1: the bed though, yeah, Martha Gangster. No, no, yes, I
Speaker 1: think Martha got a razor on her though. She tried
Speaker 1: chopping it up with Snoop's got a razor. He motherfucking tongue.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she loves you do.
Speaker 8: I want to talk about the Stewart. I want we
Speaker 8: gotta have on drinks. Whoever you have, you drink?
Speaker 1: Okay, so we got, we got. This is a game
Speaker 1: we're going there right, let's call it quick time of slop.
Speaker 1: So we know you're not drinking.
Speaker 3: If you want one of your homies to be a
Speaker 3: designated drinker.
Speaker 1: You could do that. You have me, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: Phil Jamie, you gotta fill them up over.
Speaker 5: There, Freddy game, all right, you got Freddie.
Speaker 3: Gang Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is how we play.
Speaker 1: So if you can pick one or the other, if
Speaker 1: you pick both of you be politically correct, then then
Speaker 1: then your friend drinks.
Speaker 3: But we're gonna drink. Drink we're gonna leave them out there.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, and it is meant to
Speaker 3: trick you. So both are neither yeah, both or neither answer.
Speaker 1: We're drinking. And by the way, we don't make up
Speaker 1: these questions. Me and the human guy is the Colombian
Speaker 1: guy Dominicans, so we don't make up these questions. Okay,
Speaker 1: by the way, this first one off top. You're gonna drink, sir.
Speaker 1: We're all drinking a drinking Okay.
Speaker 5: Uh with the drinking.
Speaker 1: We got all kinds of so whatever you want, whatever
Speaker 1: you want, what do you have them? Okay, we do vodka? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you ready Jamie, doctor dre or snoop.
Speaker 5: Because I knew you was gonna do that.
Speaker 10: I thought about that because I.
Speaker 1: Might as well bring a couple. Mine is here. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna drink. I'm gonna drink, you say both, right, you
Speaker 1: know what. I'm not only drinking to that, but I'm
Speaker 1: drinking to the love they have for you. Again, I'm
Speaker 1: not I want to give up the documentary, but I
Speaker 1: want I want to send people to go watch this
Speaker 1: motherfucker ship. We should premiere here. I would love, I
Speaker 1: would love, I would love to let me say something.
Speaker 1: Let me just say something. It's not it's not today,
Speaker 1: it's not today. Show show him love. It's the genuineness
Speaker 1: in their voice. Like when you look at them at
Speaker 1: that documentary, they proud to be there. You understand what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. They they are happy to lend
Speaker 1: their time to this legacy.
Speaker 3: Shared legacy and real relationships, real relation that's what people
Speaker 3: need done this.
Speaker 1: So I gotta tap my hat off to you to
Speaker 1: them for that solo. Mmmm that one.
Speaker 3: You need an ice in there warm my chest got
Speaker 3: mad hot. And if you've got any stories while anybody
Speaker 3: we mentioned, stop tell us the story.
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 5: My man?
Speaker 1: Freddy K? Yeah, freddy K. He's gonna get you fucked
Speaker 1: up today if you be fucked up with you though
Speaker 1: for all the years of him not drinking, because that
Speaker 1: was one of the parts of the documentary too, He said,
Speaker 1: I haven't drank in fifteen and they said, what is that?
Speaker 1: Fifteen days? Okay? Easy or tupac.
Speaker 5: M y'all ain't right.
Speaker 1: I take a shot for that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got the train, so.
Speaker 1: Okay, you get the next one.
Speaker 5: You're right there, right bro? You want to be doing.
Speaker 1: Ice Cuba scarface go.
Speaker 5: Ahead, bro, I just show. I was just with Face
Speaker 5: last night.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me y'are playing golf.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, I'm showing down.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay. And he wanted a coin on the
Speaker 1: desk ding. Oh that was oh the tiny desk. Yeah yeah, he.
Speaker 5: Killed, yeah, killed.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the best tiny desks I've
Speaker 1: ever seen, bro Like.
Speaker 6: It was at a place in Dallas called the Bomb
Speaker 6: Factory and went straight out of comfin the movie came out.
Speaker 5: Motherfuckers was blowing my people were blowing my, you know,
Speaker 5: blowing me up like you in the market.
Speaker 6: They talked me into doing a concert, and.
Speaker 5: And and Face was in. Face was locked up in.
Speaker 6: Atlanta, and he got one of the boys from Houston
Speaker 6: to get to bond him out so he could catch
Speaker 6: a flight to get home to Houston. Then drove four
Speaker 6: hours to Dallas to be in that show with me.
Speaker 5: Face right.
Speaker 6: So when he when I heard it, he was, I said,
Speaker 6: all right, hell, I gotta go down there and stump
Speaker 6: to yawn for my guy. So scar faced me in
Speaker 6: a lot, he said, Texas. He said, he's an alarm
Speaker 6: from my state, one of the few guys that's in
Speaker 6: my class. That I really respect. In fact, he was
Speaker 6: in a rat pack that was in Atlanta in those days.
Speaker 5: It was me and bim C.
Speaker 6: Park and Breed Richie rich from Atlanta and took them
Speaker 6: from Oakland and too Shortland.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we all hung out.
Speaker 3: Everybody was living in Atlanta. Yeah, Eric Sermon, who was
Speaker 3: down there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, very very you got a very
Speaker 1: important man.
Speaker 5: Magic was my friend. Yeah, because I was bawling then
Speaker 5: and I was going there and man, lean.
Speaker 1: She said, you had a better than this, but you
Speaker 1: used to go to sleep.
Speaker 5: That was in my dis days.
Speaker 6: I was one of the few people that that, like
Speaker 6: when anybody's ever been in Magic, the o g one.
Speaker 6: You know, you you walk in and the club is
Speaker 6: over there, but when you see as you walk in
Speaker 6: the door, there's no door right here that leads downstairs.
Speaker 1: That's where he got the layouts.
Speaker 6: That's what Magic's office is, and the girls go to
Speaker 6: the to do their thing. I was one of the
Speaker 6: few folks that Magic would let go down, man, because
Speaker 6: I was just loaded.
Speaker 5: Man, I don't even know how to ask now.
Speaker 6: I'm just walking through it, like and they lit that
Speaker 6: ain't nobody that's die. Let him alone. I'd be down
Speaker 6: that doing man, look in you couldn't put that part in.
Speaker 5: The movie.
Speaker 1: Drink Drink. I think we chaers the ecstasy on the low.
Speaker 1: I'm just dreading it before ecstasy, I believe evolved their
Speaker 1: heads somewhere. I'm just being all right, okay, A just
Speaker 1: one go ahead, Na's or jay Z.
Speaker 5: Boy, You're gonna be fucked.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 5: Damn I feel bad, you know, man. Let me tell
Speaker 5: you something. And this this.
Speaker 6: It's kind of because I met The first time I
Speaker 6: met do Eyes, it was in the middle of my
Speaker 6: addiction for Wow.
Speaker 5: And he rode his bicycle along. I went to I
Speaker 5: was doing a video for a song called on that
Speaker 5: Elter Skelter record and what's.
Speaker 3: The guys just nutsty it's the the.
Speaker 6: Title from Dre and made the album myself and put
Speaker 6: it out. That's why you never heard.
Speaker 5: But uh, he rode his bike all the way uptown
Speaker 5: to holler see doc out. And when you when you.
Speaker 6: Mhmm out there, you know it's it's a it's a
Speaker 6: weird space, bro.
Speaker 5: Like when you're when you when you fucked up, you
Speaker 5: really don't want to like be around or you don't
Speaker 5: want to be around nobody. You just want to be
Speaker 5: somewhere where you got. I guess you can think. I guess.
Speaker 6: I don't know, but uh, it wasn't the best introduction doing.
Speaker 6: But he was a gentleman man, so much class, and
Speaker 6: uh I had I had a chance to say the
Speaker 6: same thing. Then I said sin to you years later.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: And so I never had a chance to meet jay Z.
Speaker 6: I never met him, So I don't have any reference
Speaker 6: for him. But I got h got tons of respect
Speaker 6: for nurs not just as a as an MC is
Speaker 6: one of the goats, but just as a human being.
Speaker 1: Let's take a shot to that. You know who he picked.
Speaker 1: Let's take a shot.
Speaker 3: He's saying, drink. I feel like it's gonna be that
Speaker 3: one for us today.
Speaker 1: Okay, Jacob put my name and a song. I can't
Speaker 1: That's why you know, I can't go the other way.
Speaker 3: Now you see that he was the R O c R.
Speaker 3: Public Service Anno, that's goddamn it.
Speaker 1: Come on, Boys in the Hood or Medicine Society and
Speaker 1: Minister's Society. The movie Yeah yeah, yeah, I ain't right.
Speaker 1: They could be whatever criteria you whatever criteria you want.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was on a good movie. When you saw
Speaker 1: one movie.
Speaker 5: Man, that's just bad y'all trying to just do a nigga.
Speaker 6: Because Menace was a great movie for that time, Old
Speaker 6: dog Yeah, man.
Speaker 5: It was a great movie for that time.
Speaker 3: M C eight was incredible in that movie. Now I'm
Speaker 3: like nigga, he was old dog man. I'm scared them.
Speaker 5: Saying, why are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Got Man of Curs and Ship? You meeting little like nigga?
Speaker 1: You o dog man, he's a real actor. That's what
Speaker 1: a Man of Curas in mass Carroll on and Ship.
Speaker 1: I'm just playing and boy to say, man, it's on
Speaker 1: that one really Okay, man, it's okay, that's cool. We
Speaker 1: ain't drinking all right.
Speaker 3: The Chronic or Doggy Style and this one says he
Speaker 3: must pick one. I didn't they put that. They put
Speaker 3: in parentheses in.
Speaker 6: The Chronic even though sonically Doggy Style is a much
Speaker 6: better record.
Speaker 1: Uh, I kind of kind of get I got that.
Speaker 1: I listened to him back and forth yesterday.
Speaker 6: But the songs, the actual songs that are put together
Speaker 6: are better on the Chronic.
Speaker 5: It's a better journey.
Speaker 3: It's more fun, right, entertaining the foundation to it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the foundation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he learned to perfect that for doggy style.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's a song called.
Speaker 6: I've been Top and stop it like a rabbit when
Speaker 6: I get the mini rocks, you know, like I still
Speaker 6: have it ship.
Speaker 1: Isn't it? Yuh?
Speaker 6: First time I've heard Snoop freestylear song. There's no words
Speaker 6: to that, and it wasn't I'm a sit and think
Speaker 6: of the line and say the next line. It just
Speaker 6: came in and started rapping it. It's why the line
Speaker 6: the rhymes. Maybe Sam elementary because that's the way he
Speaker 6: structured his stuff as a kid. But he that song
Speaker 6: took about three minutes to make seem like the nigga
Speaker 6: just came in there. Drake cut the beat on, dude
Speaker 6: started rapping. Drake said, stop, get out the booth, wait
Speaker 6: for wait for the break, then come back here in
Speaker 6: a minute start stop starting, no no retakes, no nothing,
Speaker 6: one time through.
Speaker 1: That was one take, one time through.
Speaker 5: And the only other.
Speaker 6: Person that is ever I've ever seen do that besides
Speaker 6: myself and the studio was corrupts.
Speaker 5: He Rubb was a one take guy, a lot a lot.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 1: He brings us to our next question, dazz are corrupt?
Speaker 5: Oh man, y'all I can't do it. Y'all better get
Speaker 5: you something. Who is we go?
Speaker 3: I'm gonn talking about the time I hung out with
Speaker 3: you and Dog Pound two. I don't know if you remember.
Speaker 6: We go to those guys, really, man, those Long Beach guys, really,
Speaker 6: the Donald Pound guys really made la because me and
Speaker 6: Dry used to feud.
Speaker 1: Because even though Long Beach is not considered l a right,
Speaker 1: it's not considered that's right. Okay, but those days took me.
Speaker 5: Today they hood and I'm on the block with these boys,
Speaker 5: and I'm kicking it.
Speaker 1: Like you know, there's no red in Long Beach. It's
Speaker 1: all blue.
Speaker 6: I don't have to worry about where I am or no,
Speaker 6: you know, because I'm with these boys and I haven't
Speaker 6: seen I don't seen these I haven't seen folks get.
Speaker 1: Killed for you know, just aroun from sixties right, Let
Speaker 1: me not he he wants to you to know he's
Speaker 1: from sixty Oh yeah, he don't play that.
Speaker 5: But he from Philly, from but but he but he
Speaker 5: he's a he's a neighborhood guy.
Speaker 1: Every now and then I just like to get corrupt
Speaker 1: mad because I like to have him to do you cut.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something if you've never heard Corrupt
Speaker 3: curse when he's in crib.
Speaker 1: Mole, it's the wonderfulest thing ever. I'm just being honest
Speaker 1: with you. But you just gotta pis him of up
Speaker 1: a little bit and he he can't stop saying.
Speaker 3: Cook cook cook cook cook cook, coup cool on and
Speaker 3: he just keep going and he.
Speaker 1: It's the it's the most beautiful ist binocular. I was
Speaker 1: in the human language when Corp is mad and he's
Speaker 1: just on his cuk cook cut me.
Speaker 6: And uh Corrus going at it. When I was when
Speaker 6: I out there, I hang with them boys. During that
Speaker 6: Grammy celebration, I was talking to Corrupt and he was,
Speaker 6: you know, Cruppers a dude, deep dude, Like you don't
Speaker 6: get that from him just on GP. But he's a
Speaker 6: deep thinker. He's just is you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: Like you can't come up with words.
Speaker 1: Like lyricists yet and he drink. Oh yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 5: But I was. I was in a space where I
Speaker 5: fell not the most comfortable, uh.
Speaker 6: In in that space because up until that point, nobody
Speaker 6: ever called me for nothing. I mean, but when they
Speaker 6: get the awards, so they get to this, so they
Speaker 6: get to that. But Q made it a point.
Speaker 5: I see that, uh, and he would and he kept, no,
Speaker 5: you gotta no, you gotta come out, No, you need to,
Speaker 5: you know. And so I said, you know what I'm coming.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Never gave me no Grammy though now I mind didn't
Speaker 6: show up. So uh, if you're listening, I tell what's
Speaker 6: the ladies? And I got some woman's name. I said,
Speaker 6: thanks the lady sent to an email or.
Speaker 1: You know, decide to give me a Grammy this year?
Speaker 5: Show up just in case I forgot my actress. But
Speaker 5: when when I saw what's the ballplayer? Uh uh for Boston.
Speaker 6: Not tayle them the other guy Jaylen Brown? When when
Speaker 6: Jaylen Brown showed up for Q at.
Speaker 1: That or the Walker thirty three thing or the Big
Speaker 1: three or Big three.
Speaker 6: Thirt I says the que that was a light he
Speaker 6: gave you in front of the whole world when you
Speaker 6: called me about that Grammy thing, that was a light
Speaker 6: you were giving me in front of the whole world.
Speaker 6: So I had to come and accept that gift from
Speaker 6: you just on GP because when you when you when
Speaker 6: you inducted into the Rock and Rock and Roll Hall
Speaker 6: of Fame, you said, doctor is my guy, and he
Speaker 6: should be here.
Speaker 5: I wish he was here.
Speaker 1: He helped write all the records.
Speaker 6: So you was giving a precursor then that next time
Speaker 6: we do this, I'm gonna call my God. And he
Speaker 6: was true to that, and so I had to be
Speaker 6: a real woman stand up there with you.
Speaker 1: But but there's something about you that makes everyone want
Speaker 1: to give you your props like that. It's not just Cube,
Speaker 1: it's not just Dre, it's not just Snoop, it's not
Speaker 1: just them. It's something about you, like the industry wants
Speaker 1: to give you your flowers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, bro, it's the door guys.
Speaker 1: Want to get you.
Speaker 5: You you saw, you saw. Can you give me a
Speaker 5: reason why that? You know what I mean? Can you
Speaker 5: give me a reason? I can't give you a reason.
Speaker 5: But the reason I look at it like this, there's
Speaker 5: a it's a g O D thing. And so this
Speaker 5: path that I walked, and I told my I told my.
Speaker 6: My mother when I was coming, we're taking drink chemps
Speaker 6: to church because it's the g O.
Speaker 5: D thing And they need to know that. That's why
Speaker 5: the g O D thing is a d O C thing.
Speaker 5: That's right, goddamn it. So when they say why oh,
Speaker 5: why didn't it happen like this? Or why did it
Speaker 5: happen like this? Because it's a g O D thing.
Speaker 6: He needs he need folks to know this is not
Speaker 6: happening because of this person, happening because of that person,
Speaker 6: or not happening because of this person that is a geod.
Speaker 5: Thing, or when it's his time, watch what he do.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: And so and so even us having this opportunity to
Speaker 6: sit down and talk, it's a part of that plan, bro,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. We've been talking for two years.
Speaker 6: I most when you're gonna come, I say, I don't
Speaker 6: have no nothing to talk about. But when the Grammy
Speaker 6: thing happened, I said, well, now now I feel like
Speaker 6: I got something.
Speaker 1: Well let me tell me. Just tell you something. This
Speaker 1: is your house. You don't need nothing to talk about.
Speaker 1: If you want to come over here and talk about
Speaker 1: pink toe. Now, he's not gonna talk about that because
Speaker 1: he's not opening that door. But we don't care, because
Speaker 1: you know what, we created this platform for you. We
Speaker 1: created this platform for us, for people. You know, there's
Speaker 1: no other genre in this game that has this word
Speaker 1: washed up like people say you did ten years in
Speaker 1: this game and they want to throw us away. They
Speaker 1: don't do that in they don't do that in jazz.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna allow them to do that in hip hops, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I just can't. They say that wine gets
Speaker 1: better with time. How the fuck we ag't?
Speaker 10: What?
Speaker 1: What the fuck is we doing? I'm not lying that
Speaker 1: on my This show is created for that, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna continue to do it. And guess what, we're great
Speaker 1: at it, motherfucker.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 1: We're great at it's great at giving people flowers who
Speaker 1: deserve it. That's because the more, the more they say,
Speaker 1: the black and the barrier sweet of the youths. Motherfucker's right.
Speaker 1: That means when we go with time, we get better
Speaker 1: with time. We don't get worse with time. Only people
Speaker 1: who get worse with time and stupid people. And I
Speaker 1: don't think we're stupid at all at all, bro at all.
Speaker 1: We're out here doing this and again, let me get
Speaker 1: back to the documentary, because it shows how much you
Speaker 1: mean to the community, how much you mean to hip hop,
Speaker 1: how much you mean to humanity, and how you brong
Speaker 1: at three sixty. I believe it's a pastor. What's the
Speaker 1: black brother's name that you got with in the documentary.
Speaker 5: Reverend Johnson.
Speaker 1: Reverend Johnson. Okay, okay, he's Martin Luther King. Guy, he's
Speaker 1: the new Martin Luther King. Oh yeah, well we need
Speaker 1: to talk about him.
Speaker 5: He was in he was with him, Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 5: was in college when King started his non violent movement.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: He worked.
Speaker 6: Really closely with He's the same age as sharpening those guys,
Speaker 6: you know. And they sent him to Dallas in sixty eight. Wow,
Speaker 6: Reverend Johnson.
Speaker 5: Wow. Two another one. Jamie cleared away for doctor King
Speaker 5: to come through because the city didn't want King.
Speaker 11: There both sides, you know what I'm saying, Democrat and no.
Speaker 1: I mean I mean the white folks and the black
Speaker 1: fo's right, that's right, didn't want doctor kimps, right, the black.
Speaker 6: Preachers during that time. Okay, what's on doctor Reben Johnson's
Speaker 6: head about? Because they didn't want it, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean? Because he doctor King would be messing up
Speaker 6: their money.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 6: Know how the game goes, bro it's nothing. It was
Speaker 6: probably nothing different than.
Speaker 1: Doctor that's just too. That's what I heard. You had
Speaker 1: to that he was going to dress her. He was outside.
Speaker 3: Telling about doctor Camp he was for that. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't mean that's that's what they used. It help
Speaker 3: pro against them. They try to use that against them,
Speaker 3: but that he was having an affair, that's what they
Speaker 3: tried to use.
Speaker 5: The follow up. They finally.
Speaker 1: G Bro the wrong man, respect the kid Bro still.
Speaker 5: Follows out the can.
Speaker 1: That's a weak argument, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I try to get you to not like a brother,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like, because he had.
Speaker 1: Suicide, they try to get him the commit suicide and
Speaker 1: going to King. Yeah, that f b I. They tried
Speaker 1: to use that against them. They they spied on him.
Speaker 3: They found out that he was having an affair, and
Speaker 3: they tried to get him the commissions.
Speaker 1: He got a little trim while he was getting a tram.
Speaker 3: I'm still don't go off of my research research, but
Speaker 3: that what I seen Peter Peter Johnson came down.
Speaker 1: Peter Johnson. That's that's the.
Speaker 5: Lader ground work for doctor King. And they killed him
Speaker 5: that year, you know, I mean that was the year
Speaker 5: he died.
Speaker 1: Oh doctor King, I'm thinking it was Jane Peter Johnson.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've just seen him in the document.
Speaker 5: So he dies.
Speaker 6: And Reverend Johnson stays, uh for a while or not,
Speaker 6: and then they asked him to come back. But there
Speaker 6: had been a particular police story going on back then
Speaker 6: about this particular policeman who was executing black and brown kids.
Speaker 1: Wow in Dallas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I think uh uh he w.
Speaker 6: One of the stories is it was a little uh
Speaker 6: the the Latin kid's name was Santos, I think, and
Speaker 6: he had the kid handcuffed in his car and he
Speaker 6: was playing Russian Roulette with his pistol, trying to get
Speaker 6: the kid to to confess to something and and and
Speaker 6: blew his head off, you know. And Reverend Johnson stopped
Speaker 6: the yard. He had all the you know, did all
Speaker 6: the things that they did back then, get the police
Speaker 6: off the street. Wow, And uh, he said, what the
Speaker 6: story he tells me is he went in stomping it
Speaker 6: and uh and the powers that be told him that
Speaker 6: they would get him off the street, but they couldn't
Speaker 6: prosecute him from killing a a a nigga, you know, right,
Speaker 6: And so they took him off the street. And then uh,
Speaker 6: the folks in Atlanta called uh Reverend Johnson back to Atlanta.
Speaker 5: And when.
Speaker 6: Reverend Johnson went back to Atlanta. They gave to dude
Speaker 6: his gun and put him back on the street. He
Speaker 6: went right back I there and kept another baby. And
Speaker 6: when he did that, Peter Johnson came back to Dynason.
Speaker 6: He was there ever since. Matter of fact, with the
Speaker 6: year I was born, Peter Johnson was walking around in
Speaker 6: the projects I.
Speaker 5: Was born in, feeding people. Yeah, man, And so I
Speaker 5: wanted for him.
Speaker 6: I wanted that light to be on him in this
Speaker 6: documentary way, yeah, bro, because he deserved it.
Speaker 5: Like he's the most humble man.
Speaker 1: I knows, unassuming.
Speaker 5: Person, doesn't care about money.
Speaker 6: Still to this day, he's out there struggling trying to
Speaker 6: help other folks, right, and so I'm trying to, you know,
Speaker 6: do what I can to help him now.
Speaker 1: And he said, he linked with you, He said, because
Speaker 1: people want your autograph, not his, when they should want his.
Speaker 6: You know what, man, because without them, he paid the
Speaker 6: way for all of these boys that can get out
Speaker 6: didn't get that money like that. They wouldn't have been
Speaker 6: able to do it without this guy. M I forget
Speaker 6: what the quote is. They said, Uh, this kind of
Speaker 6: father makes this kind of child, that makes this kind
Speaker 6: of child, that makes this kind of child when it
Speaker 6: goes so in a circle like, uh, we back on
Speaker 6: the the Malcolm's and the Martins. We need them niggas
Speaker 6: to show up right about now, you know. And they
Speaker 6: gonna come from the street. See that's how everything comes
Speaker 6: from the street. Bro the wind and the loss us
Speaker 6: from the street. When I talk to these young boys,
Speaker 6: I used the uh, the story of Samson.
Speaker 5: And the Bible to try it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you relate that to your voice.
Speaker 6: No, I'm I'm relating that story to them because if
Speaker 6: you know the story in the book, Samson didn't do
Speaker 6: but two things they didn't preach to nobody ain't getting
Speaker 6: them getting them by the word.
Speaker 5: He did two things, Uh mess with women and whoop
Speaker 5: a whole lot of ass.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 6: And that's not a whole lot different from what these
Speaker 6: boys is doing. The only difference is he understood whose,
Speaker 6: I guess is the best way whose he was that
Speaker 6: there's a purpose why he was doing it. He wasn't
Speaker 6: just doing it to be So I tell these young
Speaker 6: boys that if you all killer, that's that's great. Let's
Speaker 6: figure out that the best reason why you're gonna do it,
Speaker 6: so you're not just doing something to be doing something.
Speaker 5: If you're gonna throw away, throw away your life, then
Speaker 5: then be purposeful with it. With purpose, you know, I mean,
Speaker 5: same way these.
Speaker 6: Folks put on the stars and stripes and they go
Speaker 6: over here to wherever they're at and and bust them
Speaker 6: folks in the ass. It's the same thing, but your
Speaker 6: purpose makes it seems like it's it's it's it has
Speaker 6: a different meaning to it.
Speaker 5: So I tell these boys in these neighborhoods that as
Speaker 5: far as that what those weapon and so concern you
Speaker 5: or your savior or or your enemy, it's you because
Speaker 5: you got the gun. These same way the Black Panthers
Speaker 5: used to say that this little circle is it's hours.
Speaker 5: We're not letting nobody come in here and do nothing.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, whether you know whether you
Speaker 5: got blue on or red on or black on or circle, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's not going on in here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: If you guys developed that attitude, then whatever y'all do
Speaker 6: inside this circle, as long as it's not harm and
Speaker 6: nobody get your money.
Speaker 5: That's real.
Speaker 1: We still have a quick time of slom. Forgot that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a quick pistol slim right, that's I.
Speaker 5: Can take a.
Speaker 1: Be back later.
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Speaker 5: F or n.
Speaker 1: It might not work though.
Speaker 2: Ahead, we got the number one team in the Northwest Division,
Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Speaker 1: They will be playing the.
Speaker 2: Number two team in the Atlantic Division, New York Knicks
Speaker 2: in Madison Square Garden. I know this is a favorite
Speaker 2: fan favorite is so let me get ready to it.
Speaker 2: I'll go on with Knicks automatically. Automatically laffers on that.
Speaker 2: So for total points New York.
Speaker 1: Knicks averages one eleven point nine, are they going to
Speaker 1: hire or lower?
Speaker 5: At home?
Speaker 1: We're gonna go higher. In fact, J're gonna be there,
Speaker 1: Spike Lee gonna be there eating hot dogs and corn dogs.
Speaker 1: I think Rosie parad is coming out, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I think I'm gonna go higher, diego
Speaker 1: hire lower one eleven point nine.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go lower than one eleven nine, although they
Speaker 3: will still win.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now for the young guns, the number one team,
Speaker 2: These guys are running the off n They're led by
Speaker 2: the youngest cat shy gilge is Alexander. For Oklahoma City,
Speaker 2: they average one twenty point seven a game. We're gonna
Speaker 2: higher lower than one to twenty point seven.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay higher. I'm gonna say lower because bright lights,
Speaker 1: big city, a lot of people, you know, think you ready,
Speaker 1: but it's still one of the greatest places to play
Speaker 1: on Earth. It's the massive square Guarden. A lot of
Speaker 1: people can see those bright lights in that big city
Speaker 1: and they kind of fold. So, as a young team
Speaker 1: not too much experienced, I think the Garden is gonna
Speaker 1: be the winner of this game. You say they're gonna
Speaker 1: be deer and has a big deal. That's a big statement.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to continue in this format. So for assists,
Speaker 1: gilgis Alexander. He averages six point three assists with a
Speaker 1: turnover average of two point two.
Speaker 2: So we're doing higher lower, Efen, I'm gonna say lower
Speaker 2: on the assists. Lower lower is six point three and
Speaker 2: are you yeah, I'm going lower lower.
Speaker 11: With the horrible New York Niggas defense, I say, hi,
Speaker 11: second mouth, I'm keeping it.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. It's about money. This is not personal.
Speaker 5: This is about the money.
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson, he averages six point four. Says hire lower higher, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm going higher, higher, higher, Okay. Jalen Brunton is a monster, man,
Speaker 2: a monster.
Speaker 5: He's doing it. Need scoring Now.
Speaker 1: For rebound category, we're introducing a new player to this.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: I wish he was gonna come back. I'm gonna drink
Speaker 1: Champs Kicks.
Speaker 2: We have check home grown. He averages seven point nine
Speaker 2: rebounds a game. Check homegrown, home grown, homegrown, home grown.
Speaker 2: He got hurt in the first practice last year, so
Speaker 2: they red shared him. He's back as a rookie. He's
Speaker 2: about seven something guy. So he averaged seven point nine rebounds.
Speaker 2: Higher or lower.
Speaker 1: He's a nick. No, he's an okay see, he's an
Speaker 1: okay see. He's gonna go lower this, sir, higher, higher,
Speaker 1: absolutely higher.
Speaker 2: Now, who's gonna combat him is Isaiah Hardinson.
Speaker 1: He is a nick. He's eight point four rebounds. Diego,
Speaker 1: what are we doing? We're gonna need him to go
Speaker 1: higher for the neck winning. So for the points, let's
Speaker 1: just ended with the two All stars.
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson twenty seven point five points throughout the season.
Speaker 1: He's going higher or lower than twenty seven point five.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say he's going higher again, bright light, big c.
Speaker 1: This is his time.
Speaker 11: It is his time, Sonny, one hundred percent higher because
Speaker 11: he's going to battle the young STU. He's gonna put
Speaker 11: up at least forty who my opinion, I.
Speaker 1: Won't go as high as forty, but I'll say higher
Speaker 1: than thirty, higher than thirty twenty seven.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: They might come out with the Trump sneakers on the
Speaker 1: game entirely those for Gildgas Alexander for ok s Oh, No,
Speaker 1: he's not. I'm going low off for Gildge. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: say higher, I say higher. He's a kid and they
Speaker 1: let him fifty times if he wants. I'm gonna okay.
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Speaker 5: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Jada kiss or push your T kiss kiss okay? Illmatic
Speaker 1: or reasonable doubt, illmatic ghetto boys or U GK Yeah
Speaker 1: yeah drink U yeah, okay? All right? Cool solo oh
Speaker 1: shots straight out of Compton or niggas for life, straight
Speaker 1: out of competent Styles, p or Rick Ross, Damn Ross,
Speaker 1: eminem or Busta Robs.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah you my one. Don't get you on them now.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right cool Jamie, where you at you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: We wait on you, Jamie.
Speaker 5: Were we at? Yeah? Both of those guys. It is
Speaker 5: my guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so we we we we owe one shot?
Speaker 1: You got your shot? Oh I don't got a shot?
Speaker 1: You got a shot too? Yeah, how I'm the only
Speaker 1: one whatever. I mean, I'm pouring my own.
Speaker 5: So okay, yeah, let me take myns. Thank you? Where
Speaker 5: we Yeah? Now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, DJ Quicker battle Cap.
Speaker 5: Damn bro like hm hm and fuck this ship.
Speaker 1: I love I love that. We're almost not done. I
Speaker 1: love that. I love that DJ Battle Quick battle Cap
Speaker 1: battle Quicker battle quick Like. I like that. I like
Speaker 1: that both. Yeah yeah good the next one. I want
Speaker 1: to switch this one up. Okay, Lady of Rage now
Speaker 1: this is Lady of Rage of remy ma Rage.
Speaker 5: I mean, I got it.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, just out of respect, passing boss,
Speaker 3: you know, rest in peace to Boston.
Speaker 1: Well boss, I was gonna say boss because she just
Speaker 1: passed away.
Speaker 5: And he was in Dallas. Forward love her.
Speaker 1: She's from Detroit. Ell Man she was ill.
Speaker 5: Somebody just sent me up a screen shot.
Speaker 6: A few days ago off an album that she never released.
Speaker 6: Her album cover was a was a duplicate of my
Speaker 6: album cover.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. She was definitely influenced by everything y'all were doing.
Speaker 1: You could see that. Uh, Carris want to rock him?
Speaker 5: Ah, man, come on now, and I love Chris Love.
Speaker 1: That means you're saying, come on, bro, he's my god
Speaker 1: because because you kind of didn't curse, like rock him,
Speaker 1: that's my god?
Speaker 12: Bro?
Speaker 1: Is that the reason why you didn't curse was to
Speaker 1: rock him? Okay?
Speaker 6: Bro, however good I got to be, it's because I
Speaker 6: was trying to be as good as rock him.
Speaker 5: Was wow.
Speaker 3: No, he said he picked the game you should drink
Speaker 3: for making later slick record Biggie her Dog slick Ricord, Biggie.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: That's man, y'all gotta drink on that one. Cut ship
Speaker 6: because I can't say nobody ever big here, but.
Speaker 1: I said, oh, how much respect you have a bigger's
Speaker 1: though I.
Speaker 5: Can't say nobody ever slick.
Speaker 1: I respect that like that from my my humble opinion.
Speaker 6: Bro, there's only two people that that have ever touched
Speaker 6: the microphone to me and created a street where there
Speaker 6: was no street, and the first guy was well shipped.
Speaker 5: They was the same time.
Speaker 6: It was slick Rick and rock Him. Before those guys came,
Speaker 6: everything was syncopated in one way. The floors were all similar.
Speaker 6: Then rock Him took that shit and bented around the
Speaker 6: corner and and slick Rick came and did some ship
Speaker 6: that only he could do and then started trying to
Speaker 6: do do it the way he was doing it. But
Speaker 6: but man, I yeah, those those two guys are my
Speaker 6: rushmore guys for me.
Speaker 1: I agree, Big Daddy Kane or El Cool j mm hmm.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Now I'm gone take it on.
Speaker 1: Drinking drinking.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to drink it because I was a
Speaker 6: uh Big Daddy Kane who was a great friend. And
Speaker 6: I got a story about cool ja.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's hear him both.
Speaker 5: Please. Well, when I was, uh, you've seen this in
Speaker 5: the movie, you just didn't show up.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: When when I did the show that my dad slept
Speaker 5: to the to the show and.
Speaker 1: He left, yeah because he was fucked up. Yeah yeah, okay.
Speaker 5: Caine was on that show. Oh yeah, I didn't see that.
Speaker 6: He came and sat with me and he's like, man,
Speaker 6: I know this is a hard time for you in
Speaker 6: the bast paper like he gave me the ultiml who.
Speaker 1: Was that that was your first show since he's losing
Speaker 1: your boy? Yuh? And then that was your first I'm
Speaker 1: back on stage? Okay continue And I.
Speaker 5: Only did that once wow, because I realized trying that ship.
Speaker 1: I can't do this but you know, and why because
Speaker 1: because you were drunk or because of it, I was
Speaker 1: heard you were exerting yourself too much.
Speaker 5: It was no, I was live singing. Oh, it wasn't that.
Speaker 5: It wasn't the other part that heard it was the insign.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just didn't feel it. I heard you say
Speaker 1: you are real, MC, You're real. Go on bro, yeah
Speaker 1: he's track over there.
Speaker 5: Bron used to say, we don't use that. It's this
Speaker 5: or that you know what?
Speaker 1: Right, you know?
Speaker 6: And so they talked me into it because the record
Speaker 6: that just took off and it was you know, but
Speaker 6: I was like, I can't do it. But and my dad,
Speaker 6: who had never seen me rap before.
Speaker 1: That was his first time. So I didn't know that part.
Speaker 1: I thought that was his first time walking out.
Speaker 5: We didn't.
Speaker 6: We didn't have one of those relationships. He never he
Speaker 6: never even knew what?
Speaker 1: But what record is this? That your what record had came.
Speaker 5: Mouth of mind? No, I do it better.
Speaker 1: I just came out really so this is what ninety
Speaker 1: what or.
Speaker 5: Eighty eighty nine, ninety eight, eighty ninety.
Speaker 1: Nine, it was New Year's Wow.
Speaker 6: Ninety The record came out of August the first. The
Speaker 6: rec happens November the eleventh, Wow. And I'm doing that
Speaker 6: show on January the first.
Speaker 5: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: So eleven eleven, bro, All right, well we're not asking
Speaker 1: everybody's day. Everybody's apart. That's what's so dope about. Everyone
Speaker 1: feels at his fucking story. That's what's so dope. I
Speaker 1: can't even be married, like we just started shooting up
Speaker 1: and ship I was going on this day. I swear
Speaker 1: to god, I can't even mad at them.
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, Big Pun or Big Al radio podcast podcast.
Speaker 3: Rather be loved or feared loved me too, Drake or
Speaker 3: Wayne Wayne.
Speaker 1: Primo or Pete.
Speaker 5: Rock mm hmm yeah, let's come and get this money. Okay,
Speaker 5: be All is my guy.
Speaker 1: We fight every year, really, prim Rock fight every year.
Speaker 5: Every football season. You know he's a Giants fan.
Speaker 1: You are stealers, that's right, right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 6: You talk about Yeah, that's dope. Yeah, they got ahold
Speaker 6: of they got a nice little thing. And and of
Speaker 6: course the Cowboys is the.
Speaker 5: Ship, yes, the hat.
Speaker 1: No, I'm definitely a cowboy cowboy head.
Speaker 5: Bro, who who you're riding with?
Speaker 1: Ride with the Jets? Okay, we haven't right with the Jets.
Speaker 10: Bro.
Speaker 1: The Jets don't even win the Jets. That's why it's
Speaker 1: hard being like. By the way, let me just say something.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched the next game this whole season. You
Speaker 1: know what, I think you're a bad luck. I think
Speaker 1: I'm bad luck.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: I think every time I watch the next they start losing.
Speaker 1: So do you watch it the day after? No, I
Speaker 1: just I've been trying to stay out the season. We're
Speaker 1: doing great. We're doing great. Last year, got a rent
Speaker 1: in the streak. I started watching it's over. So I
Speaker 1: actually didn't want to say this publicly, but I actually
Speaker 1: think it is. I think I'm the Jinks. So I
Speaker 1: haven't watched this year. Hopefully we can make it somewhere.
Speaker 12: No.
Speaker 6: No, they got a great little young squad, the ball
Speaker 6: us down out there and Brunt and a great addition,
Speaker 6: maybe a piece of two away from being.
Speaker 5: Relevant, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And we need like a definitive star. Yeah, yeah, need
Speaker 1: a star.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's dry.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna lie. I think they should put me in.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm just being honest, don't be
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hit him with the funky chicken. You might
Speaker 1: as well just go to the Big three, go to
Speaker 1: the Big three. I can go to the Big three.
Speaker 1: I go to the Big Three.
Speaker 5: I'm like, uh, Jets guy like kind of a.
Speaker 1: Uh, not the Yankees, but Matt's that's that's kind of
Speaker 1: a Mets guy.
Speaker 5: Just because they they never think they're gonna win, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So he like the underdog.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know I'm an underdog guy. I mean.
Speaker 6: And so I fuck with the with Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 6: it's yes, because I thought he gave him a legitimate
Speaker 6: shot last year.
Speaker 3: He didn't give Yeah, I felt like that was that
Speaker 3: was the doors. That's right, he went to the doors.
Speaker 3: He went to the doors.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 1: He got hurt. Twelve seconds is a jack, right. This
Speaker 1: nigger came in and was like, hey, I'm fucked up,
Speaker 1: you know, signed the contract and was like I he
Speaker 1: he's over this is it?
Speaker 5: Is it for me?
Speaker 1: He put on some Muslim over you and he was like,
Speaker 1: hey man, let me go break. Nigga had early get
Speaker 1: the fuck out of here. You fucked me up this season.
Speaker 1: I thought I bet it on you. I thought she
Speaker 1: was a good guy from Green Bay and what.
Speaker 5: They had the hell of a defense ship. He could
Speaker 5: have just stood up and did half a decent job.
Speaker 5: I could eat that division.
Speaker 1: Could it came in two games? This nigga was first
Speaker 1: because his name is this nigga got hurt in kindergarten.
Speaker 1: And this is why it's perfect time to download under
Speaker 1: the door drink Champs. That's right, all right?
Speaker 3: Uh wait, I got Phila or Theodora feel. I was
Speaker 3: hoping he was gonna say that, okay, yay, or for Ralph.
Speaker 5: That's a tough one we drinking because yeah, it's just cold.
Speaker 1: Any stories.
Speaker 5: I ain't got no ye stories, bro, I went on, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know why. I feel like there's a secret studio
Speaker 1: session with Dad.
Speaker 6: Was telling me about a session there where he came up.
Speaker 6: I think he was mixing his gospel record. He said, yeah, man,
Speaker 6: we was just mixing the record and he disappeared. I
Speaker 6: went upstairs, that there was sleep sleep in the bed.
Speaker 6: I was like, wow, that's crazy in the little guest
Speaker 6: house that he felt comfortable.
Speaker 1: To go up there and go up me just in
Speaker 1: another thing, cred, Yeah, that's uncomfortable. He did take his shoes.
Speaker 3: To drink jazz, hung out, took up his shoes, open
Speaker 3: the refrigerator.
Speaker 5: I never I never had a chance.
Speaker 1: You never had a chance. He's a nice guy. Did
Speaker 1: you meet for I have? Okay, okay, both both nice guys. Yes,
Speaker 1: both nice guys.
Speaker 5: A lot of respect for Pharrell. Bro. He's a super
Speaker 5: talented dude for his whole his whole ride.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're saying both right, Yeah, okay, so we
Speaker 3: said both. Yeah, he's saying both.
Speaker 5: Can't I can't take away?
Speaker 1: Man, get it together. I'm watching you, buddy, get the
Speaker 1: next one.
Speaker 3: Buddy's yeah, yeah, legend a little bit.
Speaker 1: That's a little bit. Okay, but yeah, but but but
Speaker 1: you notice we take we take a small show.
Speaker 3: We know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's a lot of question. It's a long game.
Speaker 1: Miss let's see. Okay, I respect that sug Night or
Speaker 1: puff Daddy, sug Knight. Where did you stand with the
Speaker 1: East Coast, West Coast beef when it was going on.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying that was that was not good.
Speaker 5: But I just hate bullshit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, you know what I mean? For what?
Speaker 3: And then the magazines and that's what really created it
Speaker 3: was people against people like Crew against Crew. It wasn't
Speaker 3: East Coast against West Coast, right, It was the magazines
Speaker 3: and the media that exacerbated and then made everybody, you know,
Speaker 3: Vibe particularly they were the first ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I believe they did a bad Boy cover
Speaker 1: and then they did a Death Ro cover right after
Speaker 1: each other, and it set set it off everything. I
Speaker 1: believe that's when in the time that they were saying
Speaker 1: that it was you, Dre and Shug. But then that cover,
Speaker 1: the actual Vibe cover like actually almost erased you and
Speaker 1: put Sugar in there. And they've had the three stars.
Speaker 1: It was Dre, Snoop and I forget who else was
Speaker 1: on that Vibe cover. There was four people, wasn't it, No,
Speaker 1: it was three? Put was pocket?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, was that the time. I believe in the documentary
Speaker 1: you said, I think you alluded to it. You didn't
Speaker 1: have that power, but you didn't know it at that time.
Speaker 1: Was that something that.
Speaker 5: No, I was.
Speaker 1: That must have been a difficult time for you to
Speaker 1: be out.
Speaker 5: I was struggling in that time, you know. Okay, pro
Speaker 5: addiction is not easy, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: And I salute anybody they're gonna walk that path and
Speaker 5: stand back up because they take a lot out of you, bro,
Speaker 5: when you get lost. But I respect all of those guys.
Speaker 5: I'm not bitter. No, you don't want those guys. I
Speaker 5: wouldn't have changed anything.
Speaker 6: Wow, you know, because I've been in some places that's
Speaker 6: there's some really messed up stuff could have happened to me.
Speaker 6: It should wasn't there, you know what I mean. Wow,
Speaker 6: I've seen and there's a couple of stories where I
Speaker 6: was out there and they had to come get me,
Speaker 6: you know, and came in, you know with the hornt
Speaker 6: and then and then and then with the.
Speaker 5: You know, the Calvalry care bro, because I was wilding
Speaker 5: out out there. And uh so I got nothing more respect.
Speaker 6: For those guys that handled their business in ways that
Speaker 6: I wasn't ready to handle for myself.
Speaker 1: I forget, didn't you have Dazzle corrupt on the show.
Speaker 1: And one of them was like, fuck, sugar, you hear everything.
Speaker 1: But then, you know, what that's a human.
Speaker 3: A human is a good person and a human is
Speaker 3: a fucked up person, So it could be both are
Speaker 3: true at the same point.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't want no smoke with with Sugar
Speaker 5: Bear from it. And he's doing his podcast from yeah,
Speaker 5: and so I'm gonna stay out of his way because
Speaker 5: he got a itchy trigger finger, right and he don't care,
Speaker 5: you know what, I man, that's how you getting this
Speaker 5: his thing? Because I talked to him.
Speaker 1: A couple of times since he's been incarcerated in that place.
Speaker 6: Okay, hell y, you know like Ario did that a lot.
Speaker 6: I don't know how they get your number. Somebody will
Speaker 6: call you and say, want a high lessons you know,
Speaker 6: and hey Ario one of the high letchers and out
Speaker 6: of and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, clicking me. You know what.
Speaker 6: But Ario and I since since he since he's been
Speaker 6: back out, he and I've developed a real interesting relationship
Speaker 6: because he sees things the way I see things. As
Speaker 6: far as trying to go back into these hoods and
Speaker 6: get these young boys.
Speaker 5: It is right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Why is Harryo being praised and Sugar not?
Speaker 5: But I don't know what what what is Harrio getting praised?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just seems like like, you know, when you speak
Speaker 1: about the foundation of death Row. In the beginning of
Speaker 1: Death Row, it seems like people say, man, Harrio came
Speaker 1: in like and it was whatever, whatever. But people are
Speaker 1: not saying the same about Sugar, although I.
Speaker 3: Don't see people like even with you, like they'll say,
Speaker 3: like even I just broke up with Dazz and Corrupt.
Speaker 1: I forget which one was on which side dazzes against?
Speaker 1: And I believe was like stayed around the longest, and
Speaker 1: Corrupt was like, nah, I can't. He kept calling him, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Dazz is del Mar, but he kept calling him. I
Speaker 1: think he called him Simon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that his cold name, Simon, like Simon, Yeah, damn,
Speaker 3: that was his code name.
Speaker 5: It was Simon and Santa Claus.
Speaker 1: So Simon was the bad side and that was a
Speaker 1: good side.
Speaker 5: Either one of them is talking about the same guy. Uh,
Speaker 5: But sure it was a you know, he was a year.
Speaker 1: Is uh, a complicated human as many of us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he lived his life and we all have
Speaker 5: our past that we got to walk and and he's
Speaker 5: walking hispide. You know, I wouldn't wish wish that ship
Speaker 5: on nobody, you know, uh, because I had to.
Speaker 6: I had to sit down in that city that that
Speaker 6: was not me. I don't want no more parts of
Speaker 6: that ship. And I wouldn't wish that on nobody. But
Speaker 6: you know that's his path, uh, and I wish him
Speaker 6: the best.
Speaker 5: And hopefully you know what happened for Aarrio happened.
Speaker 1: Being over the uh partisy something let him see some Yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe. I believe Trump pardon Harry with the gold
Speaker 1: sneakers on. He didn't have to that part. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: but but that's like like damn, it's like kind of
Speaker 1: like mad like but he Trump pardoned little Wayne Harry
Speaker 1: President Kardiak black slave Fat. Joe's the White House and ship.
Speaker 1: In fact, Joe be tricking me and ship. I don't
Speaker 1: know whether to follow him some of the weeks or not.
Speaker 1: Trump sneaker next week he in the White House. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Text me about this ship. I
Speaker 1: don't know what we're doing. Joe, all right, I'll take
Speaker 1: take okay de bo m o p.
Speaker 5: Mom deep.
Speaker 1: I like that old eyes on me or life after Death.
Speaker 5: H m hm, damn, bro, I like it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: take a shot.
Speaker 1: Uh, Mike, Tyson or j Paul It is, said Jerry World,
Speaker 1: Jerry World, all right, man, we should do drunk on
Speaker 1: the side.
Speaker 5: I need you.
Speaker 1: I need to know where you're going.
Speaker 3: Now, we gotta call front you do the drink champs
Speaker 3: on the sidelines. Yes, yes, I need you to come
Speaker 3: down there anyway. Let me let me introduce you to
Speaker 3: my folks of Cadillac. Go ahead, so I can deliver
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Speaker 5: Deliver one of those Oh god, yes, six hundred escalade.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get the cowboy hat and everything spurs on
Speaker 1: my I am with it, spurs of my boost man escalat.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go, let's go. We had God damn God,
Speaker 3: damn shout out to Cadillac man. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, So who will we picking Mike Tyson?
Speaker 6: Absolutely, We're gonna imagine that I'm picking out. I'm gonna
Speaker 6: see Mike somewhere. You think I'm gonna pick somebody else? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be like, well you put the money out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you're watching him train. It's crazy. You gonna
Speaker 1: eat gonna lie. I want him to do that, no
Speaker 1: ring what the way he's training, you know, think he's
Speaker 1: going to I would like for him to do it. Man,
Speaker 1: loove that he don't do it.
Speaker 5: Man, you just talked about biden Age is a motherfucker
Speaker 5: mine like them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Tyson is a different type of person because
Speaker 3: he's he said it explicitly that when he gets in
Speaker 3: the ring, he transforms into a monster.
Speaker 1: And I believe that. I truly believe I can't become
Speaker 1: the beast in the ring. I can't believe him.
Speaker 6: Against this Jake Paul Kidd, because I've seen that Jake
Speaker 6: Paul Kidd lay some dudes out.
Speaker 5: Seemed like that wasn't fair.
Speaker 1: I think Tyson, but it's that's not the same Tyson
Speaker 1: that we grew up on. But he's said, man, but
Speaker 1: you're still there. He's still there and his and he
Speaker 1: still got strength.
Speaker 5: No, he don't want no head gear.
Speaker 3: I mean they've been saying rumors about headgear, but I
Speaker 3: don't think it's no. There's rumors that they're gonna have rules,
Speaker 3: but I don't think Tyson would agree to that, And
Speaker 3: I don't even think Jake.
Speaker 1: Paul would want to agree to that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, come on, within it.
Speaker 3: Jay might as well just do it all the way
Speaker 3: right or not do it at all. I think you
Speaker 3: should fight them next you, Tyson would laughing three seconds.
Speaker 1: I really want to see this. Not only that, I
Speaker 1: facetimeed Mike. Uh well first friends, you hate me, shout
Speaker 1: out to frenchie man if Mike, one of them talk
Speaker 1: to you, so of course be able to out that
Speaker 1: FaceTime them were laughing whatever. Two days later they say, hey, announcement.
Speaker 1: So I hit them back. I was like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really doing this. They say, yes, we're really doing it.
Speaker 1: Immediately I said, Yo, I'm gonna go come to training camp.
Speaker 1: So next week when I come back from Paris, I'm
Speaker 1: going to I'm going I told you this and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hear French. I'm gonna say, you see if we
Speaker 1: could do the side. Oh yeah, I didn't even think
Speaker 1: of like me, I actually wanted to, Like that's like
Speaker 1: my dream is to see somebody in training camp like
Speaker 1: they do like me drinking or what I was like,
Speaker 1: but like I knocked this ship the funk out, like
Speaker 1: when I want to be a part of something. So
Speaker 1: I wanted to I'm going to Vegas. I believe that
Speaker 1: you said this in Dallas to believe the training camp
Speaker 1: he's training in Vegas. Yeah, so I want to go
Speaker 1: there and I want to you know, that's the fucking fun.
Speaker 1: That's just crazy because although this is uh what is
Speaker 1: the sparrings is considered sparring, correct, there get a spar
Speaker 1: come on, man, Yeah, but they're really fighting.
Speaker 3: But it's caused baring because right because it's they can't
Speaker 3: get sationed by it because he's not a sanction boxer neither.
Speaker 3: He's past the age, is right. But believe this is
Speaker 3: still history. It is, man, I believe he is still history.
Speaker 3: Generational fight for whatever it's worth. And I think it's dope.
Speaker 5: I don't want them to touch that boy.
Speaker 1: I want I'm knocking. I'm sorry, j Paul, I might
Speaker 1: see you in a restaurant and ship. I got a
Speaker 1: lot of respect for Jake Paul. I think you do.
Speaker 3: But I think that if he's smart, he's training to
Speaker 3: stay away from Mike Tyson's punches. Well, I think he's
Speaker 3: actually gonna try to He's gonna lean in and he's
Speaker 3: gonna try to hurt Mike.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's going That's the only thing you
Speaker 1: could train for because if he gets hit by one
Speaker 1: of those punches, until he gets hit by one of
Speaker 1: the practice that he'll learn. I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: I think he's going to actually.
Speaker 3: Say Mike Tyson punch out on the video game.
Speaker 1: Think that he's gonna try. I think I think j
Speaker 1: Paul much respect for the sport that he's not gonna
Speaker 1: duck it. No, but the sport. No, that's not that's
Speaker 1: not right the sport. Actually look a look at Mayweather.
Speaker 1: You you know, you have a strategy. Sometimes you stay
Speaker 1: away from the person you're coming at the right time.
Speaker 1: That's why it be boring fights sometimes and they went
Speaker 1: on technicalities or they went on this, they go all
Speaker 1: the round. I've never seen a bor in Mayweather fight. Sir,
Speaker 1: he's not. I'm saying that some boy.
Speaker 6: He's not gonna be able to stay away from from.
Speaker 6: You going have to come on with it when you
Speaker 6: get in there.
Speaker 1: I mean, don't bring it to Tyson. Gonna bring it
Speaker 1: to a fighters that's been successful against Tyson, hold it,
Speaker 1: holy Field and Lennie Flewid aggressive. Yeah, try to run
Speaker 1: from those they get right.
Speaker 10: I hear you, I hear you.
Speaker 1: But I don't, man, I don't see Jake Park going
Speaker 1: toe to toe of them. I mean, be interesting and
Speaker 1: we want to see it. Run he gonna get hit.
Speaker 3: It's a different beast man than he's ever I think
Speaker 3: ever fought. I don't think he's fought someone like Tyson.
Speaker 3: I don't care the age and none of that.
Speaker 1: Man, Okay, let's move on, no change m Yeah, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. That's the only time I seen like
Speaker 1: U f N like get dugged out Tyson. He gave
Speaker 1: Tyson a joints and grabbed the joint he pulled it out.
Speaker 1: He gave e f N back and even oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he tried the funk out of me. He made me take.
Speaker 3: I never.
Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, you taking this true. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: right now. You know it's true. You were his presence.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't tell you I was. I was
Speaker 1: in Dubai. I took the picture and woke apart. So
Speaker 1: I was like Tyson and he was just walking and
Speaker 1: I knew like he didn't know it was me. So
Speaker 1: I was like he was nory. So he turned around
Speaker 1: and then he grabbed his friend.
Speaker 12: Was so sorry, literally, and I'm looking like, oh ship,
Speaker 12: I do not want Mike to touch me like that.
Speaker 1: So he's like he crapam. He doesn't know how strong
Speaker 1: he is. His friend was little. He's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: once we told about last night. He's like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: talked much. And I'm looking at him like ship, let
Speaker 1: me let him get him out.
Speaker 3: You know, me and Charlie the time the first time
Speaker 3: with the blunk, we took a picture of him. He's
Speaker 3: eating an apple. I've never seen the most aggressive picture
Speaker 3: of somebody eating apple.
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, what the fuck? Man? What the fun?
Speaker 3: And this is the nice Tyson we're talking about nice.
Speaker 1: This is the nice version of Tyson. This is the
Speaker 1: last question. A quick time and slim and we get
Speaker 1: right back to the interview. And this is me and
Speaker 1: e FN's favorite question to us, A most important question.
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to lead the witness. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say that witness loyalty or respect mm hmm.
Speaker 5: Respect. M. I want to explain why, because loyalty is
Speaker 5: a fickle kind of thing, depending on.
Speaker 6: What's what's on the table, you know. But respect, if
Speaker 6: it's real, it ain't going nowhere, you know. And I
Speaker 6: don't want you to be loyal to me, goddamn. And
Speaker 6: I want you to do the right thing, you know. M.
Speaker 6: I want that respect because.
Speaker 1: I'm going because my thing is why wouldn't you just
Speaker 1: say both.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't say both, and they want
Speaker 3: to give an explanation as to why not saying both.
Speaker 1: But I like the reason why you said. I like that,
Speaker 1: and in fact, you know, and I want to say
Speaker 1: this will all love and respect. It's like I look
Speaker 1: at you as one of the most loyalist people.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1: That's what he just said. It's because like I didn't
Speaker 1: I didn't just watch the documentary. I became the documentary.
Speaker 5: No, I really did.
Speaker 1: It really did, like I really felt a part of it.
Speaker 1: I cried. I told you, my barber is sitting there
Speaker 1: like he's cutting this side of my ship, and I
Speaker 1: can't even feel it. I'm so numb because I'm so
Speaker 1: I can't turn away. So I'm I'm watching it and
Speaker 1: I can't feel my tears. I can feel him like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, He's like, where is this white ship coming from?
Speaker 1: And I'm just like cause I'm you know, I'm crying
Speaker 1: like a man.
Speaker 5: I'm not like.
Speaker 1: Holy ship. And it was like times in my life.
Speaker 1: I think you said it in the lyric. You was
Speaker 1: like like I tried to drown myself and I couldn't
Speaker 1: even do that right, And I was just saying, what
Speaker 1: the fuck? And I'm like, here goes a guy that
Speaker 1: I look up to. I can't see this darkness in
Speaker 1: you because I never seen the darkness in you. Is
Speaker 1: because he was always been presented as a hero. You
Speaker 1: have never been presented to the vulnerable guy that you're
Speaker 1: saying about yourself. And I had to hear that from you.
Speaker 1: If you wanted to said that, I would have never Right,
Speaker 1: That's one of them.
Speaker 5: From my perspective, one of the great ways I was
Speaker 5: able to tell the story. And loyalty plays a big
Speaker 5: part of this because I know where all the bones set.
Speaker 6: I know where they are all at. I've seen, Yeah,
Speaker 6: how did he well? You know, but that's not my place,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Whether it's hear him or
Speaker 6: him or them, or how today?
Speaker 5: Or what did you're winning?
Speaker 6: You know, that's that's the universe's tale, the tale it's
Speaker 6: my mind because I'm about this positive movement ward take
Speaker 6: those lessons I learned from those men and using to
Speaker 6: teach my sons. You know, never let what happened to
Speaker 6: me will never happen to my sons because they'll know
Speaker 6: who they are when.
Speaker 5: They meet these guys. Uh, this ring d o c ring.
Speaker 6: When I wrote to his easiest first record, we was
Speaker 6: working on the n w A record, were working on
Speaker 6: Straight out of Coring. Easiest record is goal by now.
Speaker 6: And they didn't get ready to put their record out.
Speaker 6: They going out and buying jewelry and all of these,
Speaker 6: the dookie ropes and all of this shit.
Speaker 5: I did all this work. I'm looking for work. My
Speaker 5: dookie rope at.
Speaker 6: I want to get Dougie roped out too, dude, and
Speaker 6: the easy said whatever you want, he said, give me
Speaker 6: the publishing to them songs you wrote.
Speaker 5: Now, whatever you want?
Speaker 1: Who said that?
Speaker 5: And I'm like, okay, I want that and that and
Speaker 5: one of it. It was just this ring and and
Speaker 5: on my album cover there's a chain with doctor and
Speaker 5: he bought me those.
Speaker 1: Those gifts wow, And it was a gifts public.
Speaker 6: Right gave him about a million dollars and he gave
Speaker 6: me three thousand dollars worth for stuff. Now, when I
Speaker 6: found out what had happened, I had already had the
Speaker 6: wreck and I'm starting out to play stuff and I'm
Speaker 6: wanting to work, and I find.
Speaker 5: That stuff out, I was like I was destroyed. It
Speaker 5: was one of the things that made.
Speaker 6: Me go start talking to drag about blah blah blah.
Speaker 6: Was finding that stuff out. I got so, uh said,
Speaker 6: I took this ring out already. You know, when you
Speaker 6: go out on the road and you're performing and you
Speaker 6: think motherfuckers out there respect you. You got that chain
Speaker 6: on and you lean over into that stay change. Yeah, lot,
Speaker 6: it was out there, but I had the ring still,
Speaker 6: and I was dating this broad and I was so
Speaker 6: just destroyed that I gave her this ring, said I
Speaker 6: don't even want to be I don't want no part
Speaker 6: of this shit.
Speaker 5: It's just been struggled, and she took the run. We
Speaker 5: stopped being together. In twenty seven years later, this lady
Speaker 5: found me my old way and brought me this ring,
Speaker 5: little fucking word.
Speaker 6: Twenty seven years No, fuck now, I took it like this,
Speaker 6: This could either be one of two things. God is
Speaker 6: giving me permission to be coec Yeah he's having me, No, he's.
Speaker 5: Coming, Or I was killing that ass head well and
Speaker 5: it could probably better.
Speaker 6: But no, I took that as a sign from God,
Speaker 6: like it's coming, you know, because how hot is that
Speaker 6: even twenty seven years that the Curry Lady kept the
Speaker 6: ring for twenty seven years.
Speaker 1: And then you know it's the same exact way. It's
Speaker 1: no duplicate, there's no way.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I was in California and one of my guys
Speaker 5: called me said, you know this girl named Blah Blah blah.
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, I used to and I thought she
Speaker 5: was trying to better up and get some mobil.
Speaker 1: You had a kid, You had a kid.
Speaker 6: Well, she came with a little boy and said, yeah,
Speaker 6: the boy was like nine years old, ten year old,
Speaker 6: so it had been way too you know, it was
Speaker 6: twenty seven The sun she'd have walked in would have
Speaker 6: been bigger than me.
Speaker 5: But she I thought she wanted a head. She came
Speaker 5: in with her little jit.
Speaker 6: I said, well, damn, she don't want no head, nothing
Speaker 6: like that. She sat down and she said, I just
Speaker 6: wanted you to have this back and gave me that ring.
Speaker 1: But you gave it to all. Okay, why because you
Speaker 1: said you didn't want nothing to.
Speaker 5: I just was tired. It's it's nothing, yeah, bro, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: Man, I ain't gonna lie. It's again. It's something special
Speaker 1: about you, man. Yo. D is the d O C.
Speaker 1: The d O C is the g O d G
Speaker 1: O D is the d O c.
Speaker 5: Oh mind, I don't take no credit for nothing anymore.
Speaker 5: I don't want that shit.
Speaker 6: What your greatest of all the time, God is if
Speaker 6: you ask me, that's what I really want to say.
Speaker 6: Get out of that that that game because when when
Speaker 6: you pick one, see that's what happened with Easy, and.
Speaker 5: You want to pick one, let that one be the one.
Speaker 5: Then he gets to the head and all the other
Speaker 5: pieces fall apart. If you are Easy, how can you
Speaker 5: let doctor Drake get away?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: How can you do that unless you don't know what
Speaker 5: you got in the first place?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: Same thing with sure, Wait, how can you do that?
Speaker 1: This is ju because okay, can you run us through
Speaker 1: both of those scenarios? Because you was there when Dre
Speaker 1: left Easy.
Speaker 5: I had to talk him out of there.
Speaker 1: They didn't just get up and leave ruthless.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had to go, Yeah, I'll talk Drake into
Speaker 5: leaving ruthless.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, But you before Cube went in there and
Speaker 3: started talking about he was upset with Jerry Heller and
Speaker 3: this was first he was first. Yeah, but nobody listened
Speaker 3: to Q, and Q came and talk to you, right,
Speaker 3: yeah about that swell.
Speaker 6: But but I was the low dude on the poe.
Speaker 6: I don't it all happened when we was the last
Speaker 6: show that straight out of come to.
Speaker 1: This is in the movie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, the last show we.
Speaker 6: Was in Arizona. If you ever did shows in Arizona,
Speaker 6: they got this things around stage and they we went
Speaker 6: in there and tore that bitch up and Jerry Ella
Speaker 6: came down with Brian Turner with chicks.
Speaker 1: But Brian Turner was the priority guy. Priority okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: not ruthless priority.
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, priority.
Speaker 6: And they had seventy five thousand dollars checks for each
Speaker 6: of those guys.
Speaker 5: Nothing for me. You know, I'm crazy, I know, right,
Speaker 5: But after that, Q was like, I'm not signing shit?
Speaker 5: Where's mine? I mean, why do I gotta sign some
Speaker 5: shit for some shit that I did?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Toomuch?
Speaker 5: Fat n w A wasn't a group at that time.
Speaker 6: On paper, Yeah, they had made they had sold almost
Speaker 6: two and a half million records, and they weren't contractually.
Speaker 3: And I've asked this question. I asked you this question,
Speaker 3: and he didn't really give me an answer. What happened
Speaker 3: with Arabian printing that whole process?
Speaker 5: I think Arabian started the writing on the wall.
Speaker 1: Before because he's on the album cover, he's a part
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 6: Well, then took that album cover before before I got there,
Speaker 6: and the first single came from me. They had figured
Speaker 6: it out before I got there. Bro, I tell folks,
Speaker 6: if you listen to Gangster, Gangster, Dope Man, and Boys
Speaker 6: in the Hood, those are the big records that they
Speaker 6: had before I got there. If you listen to those records,
Speaker 6: they're all the same. They're the same record. It's the
Speaker 6: same message, the same beat. Damn there, same cadence, just
Speaker 6: either dope Man, Dope Man or gangster gangs.
Speaker 5: You know, they had found a formula. They hadn't found the.
Speaker 13: Formula, you know what I man from the formula formula
Speaker 13: being able to take that and put it on the radio.
Speaker 13: You got to find a way to get on the
Speaker 13: radio otherwise. And so when the Easy, when we Want
Speaker 13: the Easy came out, we walk a radio single.
Speaker 5: Once you put it Easy on TV, that was it,
Speaker 5: no turning back.
Speaker 1: You said, you made the white people like.
Speaker 5: They loved him, loved him.
Speaker 6: Then when we started doing those shows that as teenagers,
Speaker 6: it was, you know, twenty thirty percent of white folks back.
Speaker 1: Then, you know, skame ring right, you know.
Speaker 6: So, And by the time we got to h the
Speaker 6: chronic and Dre had touched him when we was doing
Speaker 6: Up and Smoke, it was ninety percent white for white
Speaker 6: folks in that on anybody.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Can you sold out everywhere?
Speaker 1: I'm changing subject a little bit. Can you break down
Speaker 1: the difference between the S Curl and the Jerry Curl?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I don't know, because I ain't have no curl. I
Speaker 6: had Naps West Dallas. But you got to ask Yeah,
Speaker 6: you got to ask you.
Speaker 1: You gotta ask you that because s curl was like
Speaker 1: more like an East Coast thing Jerry Curl. Can we
Speaker 1: had soul glow? I was nine. You definitely had an
Speaker 1: S curl back then. I ain't gonna let you look. Don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want you. Did you had some type of
Speaker 1: girl looks.
Speaker 5: I know you.
Speaker 1: I know you had some ship back then.
Speaker 5: I know it.
Speaker 3: Something serious though on this record, I was ninety eight
Speaker 3: right on your single Where did Where did the Patchworan
Speaker 3: you come from?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Because because you became it was from Jamaica all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you just wanted to do so the
Speaker 1: does One of the documentary is doctor Drake looks and says, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know the fun this nig said to this day,
Speaker 3: I don't even wait. You just busted out with out
Speaker 3: of Nowhere. Yeah, were you listening to regular and you
Speaker 3: can tell you the story idea this is dope. Man
Speaker 3: was confused everyone, man, Laila was when I.
Speaker 5: Found the sample.
Speaker 6: The Foster Silvers record. We just sit there, we were
Speaker 6: doing n w A music at the time, and I'm
Speaker 6: listening to the record. I heard that motherfucker. My eyes
Speaker 6: get big. I'm like, Drey, listen to this, beget it.
Speaker 5: He said, okay.
Speaker 6: He started trying to mess with it and couldn't find
Speaker 6: any place where he could sample it. He's like, I
Speaker 6: can't sample this, man, you know, put it back. I
Speaker 6: was like, but I kept hearing that shit in my head.
Speaker 5: It's like, man. I went back to him about a
Speaker 5: week later, this the one, Drake, you do this one.
Speaker 6: Cause I can't simply know where I hate his ass
Speaker 6: up for a week later he said fuck it, he said,
Speaker 6: you got something to do?
Speaker 5: It said yeahs line.
Speaker 6: My eyes off come. He said, okay, I'll just play
Speaker 6: it again. So we replayed it. I'm in the in
Speaker 6: the in the other room with Laylad smoking or I
Speaker 6: p Laylad smoking and uh drinking, telling lay Lad, I'm
Speaker 6: mad Dre. I pitched Drake on Bee when he said
Speaker 6: come late summer because I ain't got sit and he
Speaker 6: said you got something, man, I said, fuck it. You know,
Speaker 6: I had a bunch of scrap pieces in my head
Speaker 6: that I had ridden six or seven months earlier to
Speaker 6: other beats. So when the Bee came on in my
Speaker 6: head that our house said do what you're making rapped out.
Speaker 1: So uh, but were you into reggae at all? I
Speaker 1: don't what you thought was best?
Speaker 3: But the base line was drinking, right, The baseline wasn't
Speaker 3: making Yeah the beat no no, no no no.
Speaker 1: The way he sound it was no, it wasn't.
Speaker 9: For him at that moment, in that moment when when
Speaker 9: that thing came on, that's what you sounded like.
Speaker 5: You're making mutic So that's what came out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I stop, the super was born.
Speaker 5: What you got a trip off this? None of them
Speaker 5: guys knew what was gonna come outcau ship.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what did they think?
Speaker 5: And then you need to click once and it pop
Speaker 5: hom So that said, I went, y'all ready for that.
Speaker 1: I was talking to them, stay on record, y'all ready
Speaker 1: for this?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, and the mother Fum's like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: keep going, keep going, And that was one take. Whoa
Speaker 5: and some of that song is it's not it ain't words,
Speaker 5: it's just because I'm a lout of it.
Speaker 1: You're faking on that said, he's telling you that's why,
Speaker 1: that's why you're gonna watch the documentary. Don't get my way,
Speaker 1: don't get I'm not But when you hear dra Gold,
Speaker 1: I don't know what.
Speaker 5: He's like something.
Speaker 1: And he's never even asked you what you said the record.
Speaker 3: That has to be the first hip hop reggae record without.
Speaker 1: Even being rich. Sir Jenks I always asked, shout out
Speaker 1: to Sir James.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an unsung right hero, he's the legend. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: excellent In that documentary act he did Alive, I got
Speaker 3: a lot of respect for Sir Jay Jenks was.
Speaker 5: A cog in that wheel that folks don't talk about him,
Speaker 5: but if you take him out, it don't work.
Speaker 3: Him and Cuban Cousins right, no, no, him and Drea
Speaker 3: Cousins him Andre, Okay about first cousin the home the
Speaker 3: other funk Almostapien and Cube related.
Speaker 5: Yeah. You you stayed a couple of doors down from
Speaker 5: Jinks on on the street off fan Week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because instead of comping, he's the little brother, right yeah,
Speaker 3: right right?
Speaker 5: And uh, Jenks was a graffiti guy first.
Speaker 1: He's a super hip hop dancer. Yeah, I'm talking all
Speaker 1: the stages.
Speaker 6: He went through the four corners of hip hop wow,
Speaker 6: and became a producer. And he did a lot, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like we we we groomed each
Speaker 6: other and grew.
Speaker 1: That was a hip hop crew, a legit hip hop crew. Bro.
Speaker 1: I love having you having sur Jinks are part of
Speaker 1: the documentary. I loved it. I was, I was sitting there.
Speaker 5: It was It was important because Jinks is one of
Speaker 5: the few dudes that know where all.
Speaker 3: The bones is to And I'm gonna be honest with you,
Speaker 3: and he went with Cube though with the lichen Bob.
Speaker 1: That's why you know what made me and me as
Speaker 1: a fucking guy who drinks a lot. It's gonna sound
Speaker 1: crazy what I'm about to say, me seeing him sober
Speaker 1: in the documentary because for the last five years you
Speaker 1: see him drunk. I've seen him a whole drunk, Like
Speaker 1: so drunk, like where I wanted to like, because you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted we wanted him and we had been a concert.
Speaker 1: Was you there with Mrs That one?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: This was another one? Oh the one in Vegas? Who
Speaker 1: this was in La? This was in La. And we
Speaker 1: jumped out of the car, Sir Jinx. As soon as
Speaker 1: I seen them, I was just like, yo, I wanted
Speaker 1: to give him a hug, and like he was just
Speaker 1: beefing with his friends. He was arguing with his friends.
Speaker 1: So I stood there and I wanted to, you know,
Speaker 1: wait my turn to say to say hi and give
Speaker 1: my respect, but they were just beeping so much that
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I feel like I'm out of
Speaker 1: line keeping like interrupting this. So I had to like
Speaker 1: kind of like walk away. And then I walked away.
Speaker 1: And then I realized I had nothing but Puerto Ricans
Speaker 1: with me, so we might have looked like Mexicans.
Speaker 3: So I'm performing, and I realized nobody kind of said
Speaker 3: oy to me afterwards.
Speaker 1: This is in La, and I was realizing, oh shit,
Speaker 1: they don't have Puerto Ricans. I mean this, Puerto Ricans
Speaker 1: are gay.
Speaker 3: She had not it's about twelve no, No, it's about
Speaker 3: no Mexicans running the place where I'm from, Southgate, Cubans
Speaker 3: are running the place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they run the place. But there's everything there,
Speaker 1: so you know. But that's about it. But oh James,
Speaker 1: I got him. I got a big up jenks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta give him a shout because no, he's
Speaker 5: the reason I don't drink today.
Speaker 1: Is because he told you about your birthday. He said,
Speaker 1: you gotta have a birthday.
Speaker 5: That's right, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 6: Exactly right, he says, said it was my It was
Speaker 6: the day of my grandmother's birthday.
Speaker 5: R I p to Maduro and it was the day
Speaker 5: after her birthday.
Speaker 6: And when he said that that ship, you gotter have
Speaker 6: a birthday. What it's my grandma's birthday, it's gonna be
Speaker 6: mine too. Now I'm full disclosure.
Speaker 5: I fell out the wagon last week, oh Ship, when
Speaker 5: KRS came to town and I wanted to ask him
Speaker 5: to be on his podcast. I got a problem asking
Speaker 5: people for stuff because I don't like to be told no.
Speaker 1: It changes the dynamic body, which we're gonna be on
Speaker 1: the podcast after this we're doing that.
Speaker 5: He'll come to your bal Ebody's just say it's a
Speaker 5: personal thing.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 5: I don't like that. I don't want to ask ship,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: But but I stay away from that because if I
Speaker 6: ask you and you tell me no, then you've changed.
Speaker 5: The dynamic of relationship. I might care, I might like.
Speaker 5: So I'm just gonna let I'm gonna ask God and
Speaker 5: let him give it to me. However you want to.
Speaker 1: Get ead of me, that's you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Where's the walks at Dallas? Yeah, but we're gonna record here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's a local thing, right because I'm all
Speaker 6: about Dallas for worth right now, Okay, right, I'm trying
Speaker 6: to go back to the crib and the it that
Speaker 6: traveled around the United States and hillpip it never went
Speaker 6: to Dallas. Yet they've never had their moment, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Like Lay had its moment on Houston
Speaker 6: or New Orleans or Miami or atlanticall la. Dallas never
Speaker 6: had theirs. And maybe I was supposed to be a
Speaker 6: condient for that, and then when I fell.
Speaker 5: Off, it off fell you.
Speaker 1: We didn't give the opportunity to Yeah.
Speaker 3: And just you know, we always big up the South
Speaker 3: here and I'm a big proponent of the South. Look
Speaker 3: at look at what the South. Did he's from the South.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and people don't even realize it.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm from the I'm a New York Jamaican
Speaker 5: West Coast dude from the.
Speaker 1: South was making that for real.
Speaker 5: The song said.
Speaker 1: Kicks him by way of Dallas.
Speaker 5: I love it over there.
Speaker 6: But yeah, bro, like I'm going back to Jenks. I
Speaker 6: owe him alive for that moment in time because he
Speaker 6: put me on this road.
Speaker 1: And you know, Sylvia your own right, of course, I
Speaker 1: know sivil room.
Speaker 5: So I started the movie to sell.
Speaker 6: And man when it when it went out, she went
Speaker 6: up and starts clapping and sanging and stomping like it
Speaker 6: was an old Negro spiritual movie or something.
Speaker 1: That's how you know it movie, that's how it feels, bro.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, And I said to her, I quit drinking.
Speaker 5: She was like, thank god. I was like, wow, I
Speaker 5: must have really been you know, something else out there.
Speaker 1: But you know what was great about didn't you have
Speaker 1: a movie premiere?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's in film festival. It was inca Tronabecca. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: wasn't it in LA Because I remember just people just
Speaker 1: posting I've seen something where people just posting it was
Speaker 1: the premier.
Speaker 5: Was the first The premier was in at Triballca.
Speaker 1: Oh that was Tripreca okay, and that's in New York. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I thought it was. It was Apropos because it was
Speaker 1: hip hop. Was fifty his birthday. Oh that's right, that's right,
Speaker 1: that's where uh in my.
Speaker 6: Eyes, it's a love it's a love story to hip hop.
Speaker 6: It's me, it's you, but it's really it's us, really,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Let me let me give you a moment. Man, it's you.
Speaker 5: Man, you know what.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that cam fuck, I swear I do, but
Speaker 1: it's us. I respect that that needs everything. You mean,
Speaker 1: I respect that. But let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: When the football team plays, the football team wins, but
Speaker 1: it's always that one guy who scores the touchdown.
Speaker 5: That's right, and.
Speaker 1: The loved oc Let me give you your MVP.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the culture. Yes, it's the culture. Yes, it's
Speaker 3: the culture, But it's that guy scoring that touchdown at
Speaker 3: the end.
Speaker 1: It's the running back that's going through the motherfucker and
Speaker 1: you know line of scrimmage that you've been doing, it's
Speaker 1: the running back going through the motherfucking red zone that's
Speaker 1: going through there. It's the motherfucker dude hitting that three point.
Speaker 1: It's the motherfucker catching that out of you. And you
Speaker 1: are that motherfucker. And I cannot let you stand here
Speaker 1: in my in my atmosphere, my show and not let
Speaker 1: you know how much you motherfucking are that motherfucker. And
Speaker 1: everyone here let me tell you something, everyone here is
Speaker 1: so excited to sit here to get an autograph from
Speaker 1: you at the end of the show and take a
Speaker 1: picture with you because of what you fucking mean to
Speaker 1: this culture, what you mean to our genre, and what
Speaker 1: you mean to our society. And I needed for you
Speaker 1: to know that you that motherfucker.
Speaker 6: No, No, I ain't glad, y'all. I'm when I say
Speaker 6: when when kr Rest came and then uh face came
Speaker 6: last night, in all these moments that you catch on camera, see,
Speaker 6: I never got a chance to hear any of this
Speaker 6: because I was in that hole with my guys, and
Speaker 6: these kind of things don't don't feel start down to me.
Speaker 5: Like I said, I'm in the back holding holding up
Speaker 5: to my guys. But but bro, that should mean that
Speaker 5: means everything. To know that the people that do the ship, yes,
Speaker 5: that really know love the fun they're talking about God
Speaker 5: got got respect for the path.
Speaker 1: The only respect is love, loyalty, and it's it's it's cherishment,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I don't think this,
Speaker 1: Like I know we spoke about jay Z bicking you
Speaker 1: up earlier, earlier, but I don't think there's any MC
Speaker 1: that came behind you that can't show you that same
Speaker 1: amount of respect and love. It's just I don't use
Speaker 1: big words, but it's unequipplently, it's unincrivably not possible.
Speaker 5: It's just can't.
Speaker 1: Like when you think of hip hop, like I swear
Speaker 1: to God when I said it earlier, and I really
Speaker 1: can't think of hip hop about you, like I really can't.
Speaker 1: And you know what's crazy. People who are at the
Speaker 1: top of the game can't think of it neither. I
Speaker 1: don't think Drake can. I don't think rin can. I
Speaker 1: don't think Easy can. I don't think Jimmy IV can.
Speaker 6: It's the only story of youth, what you saw. It's
Speaker 6: the only story they haven't told yet.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, though it needs to be told.
Speaker 6: G O D did that, man, he did that for
Speaker 6: a purpose, so motherfuckers can see. That's why waiting to
Speaker 6: say nigga, it's gonna be my time when we show
Speaker 6: this movie. It's gonna be a lot in me. And
Speaker 6: look what I did, and I look what that boy
Speaker 6: did to look good, this company did.
Speaker 5: This is what I did. And I'm gonna stand up
Speaker 5: there and I'm gonna say it loud as hell. You
Speaker 5: know what I mean because.
Speaker 1: You saw the movie, so you know I loved the movie.
Speaker 1: This ship, but I want to see this ship. I'm
Speaker 1: so bragging on him because I knew about it. Wait before,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't need the premiere, and I was like,
Speaker 1: where the fuck is this ship out? And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I checked Prime, I checked Hulu.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to hate you the wrec. I wanted
Speaker 1: to watch it on my own and and when I realized,
Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit, like this this this, this
Speaker 1: is something that you're doing independently, correct because you did
Speaker 1: this premiere on your own. So this is not no Netflix.
Speaker 1: It's not for you to do. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to give you any suggestions or anything. But what I
Speaker 1: want to tell you is it belongs to everybody. That's
Speaker 1: right this story. I can't see it exclusive, although I
Speaker 1: know Netflix will probably give you a bag. And now
Speaker 1: he's just waiting for the right situation. Keep it to
Speaker 1: himself and Hulu will probably give you a bag. But
Speaker 1: in my opinion, this ship belongs to the world, like
Speaker 1: the world needs to see the d O C story.
Speaker 3: And the impact of your story has on everything that
Speaker 3: they didn't even know that actually it impacted.
Speaker 1: That's right, because it impacted so much.
Speaker 5: That's right. If you remember it was that accident was
Speaker 5: a fork in the.
Speaker 1: Road, right, you know what I mean, your career, that
Speaker 1: break don't happen. That thing about that accident is so crazy,
Speaker 1: is because when when when you investigated it and you say,
Speaker 1: the police pulled Joob first, and not only the police
Speaker 1: pulled Jeoba, but they took pictures with you. You had
Speaker 1: God records in the back y'all sitting there.
Speaker 5: When they when they told me get out of the car.
Speaker 5: I was loaded. I was on whatever.
Speaker 6: I was coming out to Beverly Hills Hotel, live in
Speaker 6: my best life with two of LA's.
Speaker 5: Finest you know, and uh, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: But I but I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: Sleep the acronym what is the d O C? So
Speaker 1: I know the story you you were with two females.
Speaker 1: You d o s them them, but you didn't want to.
Speaker 1: You didn't want to. Which is which is?
Speaker 5: Which is?
Speaker 1: You know this is real like.
Speaker 3: Smash, but I don't want to sleep, that's right, So
Speaker 3: you wanted to leave. Gets pulled over by l A
Speaker 3: and they take pictures of your gold records.
Speaker 5: I got out there. They said, get out of the car.
Speaker 5: I get out. The cars are telling jokes and and
Speaker 5: giving the laughing. Oh yeah, BRO told him that I rote,
Speaker 5: I wrote the police. They laughed, yeah, like that, and
Speaker 5: the police too. And the gold records was in the backseat.
Speaker 1: Gold records back then, shot of records.
Speaker 6: It's like all I said. Now they want to autographs
Speaker 6: and shad. So they take pictures of me with my thing,
Speaker 6: of me signing the ticket, you know, and uh.
Speaker 1: Let me go in retrospect. I know this probably might
Speaker 1: be a hard question. Do you wish you would have
Speaker 1: got arrested there?
Speaker 5: Noo?
Speaker 1: Had you got arrested, maybe you wouldn't have had that.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be a less right, but they had that.
Speaker 3: I feel the accent is a blessing, right, that's right,
Speaker 3: you feel it because it could have been worse.
Speaker 1: Probably had that accident not happened.
Speaker 6: I tell folks all the time that I was too
Speaker 6: part before too right. I could see that, not because
Speaker 6: I was a rapper, because I was in the space.
Speaker 6: When you were a position, in the position you were in,
Speaker 6: and being around that element, you're always going to be
Speaker 6: the first one to catch a fall, because they're protecting
Speaker 6: themselves in a way that you don't know. He had
Speaker 6: no business being in the middle of that stuff, kicking
Speaker 6: in whatever he was doing to that person, being who
Speaker 6: he is number one in Vegas, yeah, and being where
Speaker 6: he's found number two. It's double negatives.
Speaker 5: I cannot even tell you that they're gonna let you
Speaker 5: crash and that's what happened, you know, And I don't
Speaker 5: know who or what. That's not even my uh my
Speaker 5: place to be in the middle of that. I don't
Speaker 5: even listen to when they talk about Sean Combs and
Speaker 5: all that. I don't, you know. The only interaction I
Speaker 5: have with.
Speaker 6: What he did is when Sean was doing he did
Speaker 6: the records, sawing that dangs to Y called me and say, hey,
Speaker 6: what do I gotta do to get you in this video?
Speaker 6: I said, nigga, he did it, you know, send me
Speaker 6: a ticket right up there and knock it out, you know.
Speaker 6: And Sean was a uh a gentleman and a great
Speaker 6: scholar and a great gee he uh you know, he
Speaker 6: was super cool and I really enjoyed myself a mess.
Speaker 6: Sabba jud that that day and he was in there
Speaker 6: for hitting that bag. He was lighting that mother but
Speaker 6: up and I had a blast, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: walking on the streets out there. Buffy had sent me
Speaker 6: some gear that's another story, as you know.
Speaker 14: But but I wore the gear John, Yeah, and and uh,
Speaker 14: but I really And then he sent me a bus
Speaker 14: to a party that I had to go to a
Speaker 14: party with all of.
Speaker 5: These stars and stuff. There wasn't no doors, and to
Speaker 5: be clear, it was one door you get in that's
Speaker 5: where everybody, and one door when you get out. And
Speaker 5: I got loaded in that mother parder. Then they got.
Speaker 6: Arrested leaving because you get loaded and you think you
Speaker 6: could talk shit to everybody, including NYPD. What you should
Speaker 6: never do unless you trying to go sit down somewhere
Speaker 6: for me, Yeah, just lead him along. Yeah, my guys,
Speaker 6: they snatched my ass and threw me on that bus
Speaker 6: and we pulled off. But but I had a great
Speaker 6: time Sean, and Sean was a true gentleman. I really
Speaker 6: appreciated him for not only just being respectful enough to
Speaker 6: put the record.
Speaker 5: Out, but to call me and say, hey, man, when
Speaker 5: you come to.
Speaker 1: Be a part of it, you know, that's what that
Speaker 1: was best coach to me, right, And that's that's what
Speaker 1: it was. Uh.
Speaker 5: That other ship was just some bullshit, and we still
Speaker 5: stuck in that space.
Speaker 1: It's crazy that all these years later, we're still dealing
Speaker 1: with the effects.
Speaker 5: Of that, stuck in that space. Everybody trying to be yeah, don't.
Speaker 1: Believe East Coast, West Coast is going.
Speaker 3: Nah, We're still dealing with the effects of that. Man,
Speaker 3: there's still being the youngest is going through that. No,
Speaker 3: not the youngest, but we're still debating and we're still
Speaker 3: talking about it.
Speaker 1: There's still like bad blood about it. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's bad, but I think I went older than what
Speaker 1: the offense were. What I mean to your point was
Speaker 1: that it's the street right, or the idea of what's
Speaker 1: that right.
Speaker 5: It's got the game.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying the specific people beefing or the coast beefing,
Speaker 3: but okay, yeah, we gotta let that.
Speaker 1: Go because because I'm gonna be honest with you, I
Speaker 1: haven't been in New York and like maybe eight months,
Speaker 1: but eight months ago I went through New York and
Speaker 1: I felt like I was in the West Coast. It's
Speaker 1: literally bloods and crips everywhere.
Speaker 5: That's what TV do for you. And I'm like Yolk
Speaker 5: or something like that. I was a pleasant.
Speaker 1: I would never think that. I would never think in
Speaker 1: eighty seven would you think that they would be blood
Speaker 1: and holks in New York? Hell, no, helmet.
Speaker 6: But I didn't think eighty seven it would be bloods
Speaker 6: and clips in Dallas.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: You know, so I left Dallas.
Speaker 3: Everybody but you was telling us all explaining it on
Speaker 3: education was he was explaining it, and nobody wanted to
Speaker 3: really listen.
Speaker 1: He was saying that that gang members go out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's different reasons why it's spread, but
Speaker 3: he was giving you the blueprint at that time how
Speaker 3: it was spreading.
Speaker 1: But isn't it that kind of like even because because
Speaker 1: social media is a big part of the West Coast,
Speaker 1: we gave the West Coast rap right not to say
Speaker 1: it like that, but then the West Coast gave us
Speaker 1: gang banger.
Speaker 5: Well, look, there's a dude named Schooling d schoolies.
Speaker 1: Here's the rap. They say he's the original.
Speaker 6: Even a cadence that they used came from schooling day.
Speaker 1: First, yeah, you're saying because a lot of people who
Speaker 1: credit you with one of the most important people up
Speaker 1: against the rap Icy icedy as well, so like my role.
Speaker 5: But you said school d oh yeah, okay, the case
Speaker 5: is that Ice Ice ded Ice adopted then cbe adopted it. Wow,
Speaker 5: came from school he dam Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 1: From Philadelphia's right? Did I ever say if he was?
Speaker 1: He said he said in this show he said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what.
Speaker 3: But am I wrong? Because you said you gave it
Speaker 3: to him? In terms of influence on gangster I never
Speaker 3: saw you in that light because I felt like you
Speaker 3: were like the nas of this period. Yeah, you wasn't
Speaker 3: really talking crazy.
Speaker 5: No, I think what what folks meant as I was
Speaker 5: able to help those guys get those got care. I
Speaker 5: got that because without radio you, especially back.
Speaker 1: Then, right even today, I could see hard than that, right, right, right.
Speaker 5: You don't win unless you get on the radio.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 5: Period what today it might be a little different, but
Speaker 5: but even today just like then.
Speaker 1: It's the same.
Speaker 6: The machine promotes the same five or six guys that
Speaker 6: they want to be.
Speaker 5: You know, the guys and everybody else just have to
Speaker 5: figure it out. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Now, Erica, had you vegan for two years?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Beautiful, that's beautiful.
Speaker 5: No, I'm gonna tell you something or whatnot. I seen
Speaker 5: cam run when on it and he went on, what
Speaker 5: said something about my dude. She can't give him nothing.
Speaker 5: I know somebody because everybody she touches is traumatized.
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready, but uh, always.
Speaker 5: Always, I can't help but respect. That's sister.
Speaker 1: That's right now. Your relationship is beautiful.
Speaker 6: Beautiful because she gave me that child, and that child
Speaker 6: save my spirit. Whow when I couldn't love myself, that
Speaker 6: little girl loved me so much. Who that I had
Speaker 6: to try to straighten my shit out? You know, I
Speaker 6: don't want the window. I got caught drinking and driving
Speaker 6: an actress sit down for like thirteen months I did.
Speaker 6: I never called poem once during that time. And her grandmother, uh,
Speaker 6: Erica's mother. When I finally came home, she cussed me out,
Speaker 6: up and down, back and forth.
Speaker 5: Her grandmother because she said Puma cried all the time
Speaker 5: because you never called wow. And the whole time he
Speaker 5: was gone. And this is me and Poema we are
Speaker 5: you know, that's my that's that's my baby.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like I.
Speaker 5: Learned that I kill a motherfucker, then you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean.
Speaker 5: And now my sons. That's why I say. Jill d
Speaker 5: gave me these two beautiful little girls to get me right,
Speaker 5: and then he gave me these boys so I could
Speaker 5: be right, you know what I man. And Bro came
Speaker 5: uh just being there to watch my my youngest son
Speaker 5: practice driveling.
Speaker 6: His last name is Curry, so you know he he
Speaker 6: automatically think he's gonna be Steph when it's this time
Speaker 6: because he already carried.
Speaker 5: You know what I man.
Speaker 6: So he got this little gold and he shoot from
Speaker 6: the other room and shit, and and all he wants
Speaker 6: you to do is watch him. No man, Bro, that's uh,
Speaker 6: that's my youngest son, my mom my oldest son. This
Speaker 6: guy's name is Legend, and he just loves his dad.
Speaker 5: He don't want to do shit. He don't want to
Speaker 5: go to the little air.
Speaker 6: He just want to sit and mess with those devices
Speaker 6: as long as he I'm somewhere.
Speaker 5: He could see me, he could see what man, So
Speaker 5: that's worth more. And all of the money that these.
Speaker 6: Guys got, all the accolades and the trinkets and the
Speaker 6: dish is that they give them, y'all can have all
Speaker 6: of that ship because I got these things that'll never die.
Speaker 6: And they're gonna they're gonna grow up and have sons
Speaker 6: just like I did, and they're gonna be able to
Speaker 6: show their sons that film, and their sons are gonna
Speaker 6: be able to say, Wow, I know what I could
Speaker 6: do because look at what my grandfather did and what
Speaker 6: he did with all the ship that he was up against.
Speaker 5: Now, I'm gonna take this mother.
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, my youngest son, Darren tells me all
Speaker 6: the time he's gonna be a billionaire.
Speaker 5: And he's gonna help me out with the bills. Come on, Bron,
Speaker 5: that's what I'm talking about it. I'm so happy to
Speaker 5: hear that because I need some help help that out.
Speaker 5: And that shit means everything, Bro, and I the.
Speaker 6: Accolades and the money and all the blessings that were
Speaker 6: supposed to have come back. Then the motherfuckers about to fall.
Speaker 6: I know that, right, And I ain't got the kiss,
Speaker 6: no ass to get it right. I ain't got to suck. No,
Speaker 6: I don't have to do nothing to get it.
Speaker 1: No doors, no doors, no doors. It might be you
Speaker 1: might have just the other way. That's what people understand me. Right,
Speaker 1: might take some patience.
Speaker 5: How are you going to react when it's your turn?
Speaker 5: When the rabbit get the gun right with grace?
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. You kind of stopped me earlier
Speaker 1: on this, but I just kind of want to say
Speaker 1: how much the love that I felt Gray has for you.
Speaker 1: When he says, I'm sorry if we're at it, if
Speaker 1: you want me to, but he says, I'm his voice, Nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there trying to be tough, to not be tough.
Speaker 1: When your friend says, you know, fuck that, I'm his voice,
Speaker 1: like meaning, some of the best raps you ever heard
Speaker 1: out of my mouth came from him.
Speaker 5: So I'm his voice. That's right. Same thing with the
Speaker 5: dog man.
Speaker 1: I love that those guys allowed me to live. I
Speaker 1: love them. I loved if you said you said you
Speaker 1: also said you said you vicariously lived through snoop During
Speaker 1: that first you stood in the studio and you wanted
Speaker 1: to give all you had to him. This is a
Speaker 1: lot about your character. I don't know you could have
Speaker 1: been better at that time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's not gonna help nobody, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. That's not gonna help me. It's not gonna
Speaker 6: help them. It's not gonna make no money like I
Speaker 6: had one. And I was so when when when when?
Speaker 6: When it happened, I was so ashamed that I let
Speaker 6: it happen to me.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go home with the record. Yeah, okay, you know.
Speaker 5: When you at home, they don't think you're gonna do nothing.
Speaker 5: You ain't feelsh, you know, then.
Speaker 6: You escape and and make it and it's right here
Speaker 6: and you blow it or you know what's gonna happen
Speaker 6: when you get home.
Speaker 5: They finna let your ass have it.
Speaker 6: And I couldn't even go home, So I had to
Speaker 6: stay out there in La till I could figure this
Speaker 6: shit out.
Speaker 5: Woll how am I gonna get it?
Speaker 6: I'm gonna step back and and be see gonna be
Speaker 6: somebody that's behind the scenes.
Speaker 5: So I talked Shug into building something for us, me
Speaker 5: and him first before before Dre but I couldn't.
Speaker 6: I couldn't get out of my own way, so I
Speaker 6: can't do this shit without without Dre, he said, we
Speaker 6: gotta figure that out.
Speaker 1: And he had no relationship with Dread at the time.
Speaker 1: So you're the seed planet. You're the nucleus for all.
Speaker 5: Of that, the lunchpin.
Speaker 6: It don't work because somebody gotta suffer in order for
Speaker 6: it to happen. With them that they work out there,
Speaker 6: somebody got to lose. Everybody don't get to win. And
Speaker 6: I take this step back because I think if I
Speaker 6: take one step back, I could take two steps forward.
Speaker 5: But that was before before the real gangster shit showed up,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Like, I'm writing all these songs about all this, but
Speaker 6: when that real ship showed up, you get quiet, real
Speaker 6: motherfucker fast. When when when those real situations show up.
Speaker 6: And a lot of a lot of that stuff I
Speaker 6: could never repeat. But I would have to work with
Speaker 6: them glasses at I asked some glasses when I came in,
Speaker 6: But I would have to sit and that and that
Speaker 6: space loaded with them glasses, them black glasses, basically hiding
Speaker 6: behind them motherfuckers, cause you kill or be killed in
Speaker 6: that space. You can't show no weakness. So even though
Speaker 6: you know what's what's going on is wrong. You can't
Speaker 6: say nothing. You have to just suck it up, right,
Speaker 6: you know, That's the space I was in. It was
Speaker 6: extremely uncomfortable, but it was something that God wanted me
Speaker 6: to go through and learn that so that when I
Speaker 6: go talk to these young men, they understand that I'm
Speaker 6: coming from a place of love. But I'm not telling
Speaker 6: you nothing that I think that. I'm telling you what
Speaker 6: I seen. What's gonna this is these are the steps
Speaker 6: that's gonna happen to either destroy your life or save it.
Speaker 5: And and the choice of to you.
Speaker 6: But I'm not finna blown on smoke up your ass
Speaker 6: and make you think that life is just it's beautiful,
Speaker 6: because it ain't.
Speaker 1: The scariest part of you know, I think I'm been
Speaker 1: famous for twenty five years, right, I've been part of
Speaker 1: this game. Right.
Speaker 5: But one of the.
Speaker 1: Dangerous parts was after the Tupac and Biggie both passed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it didn't feel real, it didn't feel right, and
Speaker 1: it almost felt like the streets was more in control
Speaker 1: of the industry than we were at that time, or
Speaker 1: unveiled that fact. Yes, you're you're need deep, You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm little guy, but your knee deep in it.
Speaker 1: Did you ever think that the streets would take over
Speaker 1: like music like that? I couldn't see that. I didn't
Speaker 1: see it neither. And I'm outside of looking at it
Speaker 1: at the time. That was the inside of looking out,
Speaker 1: but you were inside. Yes, it was a he was
Speaker 1: a different beast. He became a different beast. Or was
Speaker 1: he always that?
Speaker 5: Yeah? He was always He was a different, different motherfucker.
Speaker 5: But you guess why.
Speaker 6: You can't take nothing away from him because even though
Speaker 6: it was messy, he moved that stuff forward in a
Speaker 6: way that the machine didn't want it to move, but
Speaker 6: he wanted it to move, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Wow, But let me ask you, why are we all
Speaker 3: surprised of that fact when the whole entertainment business and
Speaker 3: the music business specifically was always controlled by the underworld,
Speaker 3: the mafia. That's that's the way the music industry, Hollywood,
Speaker 3: all of that foundations is the mob. You want me,
Speaker 3: it is the underworld organized crime, but not our mobs.
Speaker 3: You're right, But I'm just saying for it to spill
Speaker 3: over it. It was always there like that, that, that
Speaker 3: dirty side was always there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I can humbly answer that question, we never
Speaker 1: made it and then had the same problems of us
Speaker 1: not making it. That's why it felt weird because bad
Speaker 1: Boy and Death Row with two of the most successful people.
Speaker 1: How the fuck do y'all got beef? The most successful,
Speaker 1: most successful everything.
Speaker 3: They could have changed what you said, Like, it could
Speaker 3: have been a magazine It could have been a simple
Speaker 3: magazine couple. But we didn't know that, and we didn't
Speaker 3: understand that. Holy shit, do you know how powerful we
Speaker 3: would have been together. But then again, it's young men
Speaker 3: with a lot of money. Again, I think we underestimate
Speaker 3: the age of everybody, Like like people talk about Tupac
Speaker 3: today as if he's our aide doing young men but
Speaker 3: also doing extraordinary thing and so it shug So it
Speaker 3: was easy at the time. So like that's the thing,
Speaker 3: is young men doing young men ship. And then we
Speaker 3: got to understand then this foundation I'm talking about those doors.
Speaker 1: They know these young men oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Doing that that are probably gonna go astray and then
Speaker 3: give knowing that they're dealing with some money things.
Speaker 1: So I mean, we just got to like put it
Speaker 1: in perspective to understand easy.
Speaker 5: Jerry's genius, right, if you.
Speaker 1: Keep could I mean you could.
Speaker 6: Was identifying whoever it was right and putting him into
Speaker 6: space to be who he was.
Speaker 1: Jerry, Yeah, because not everybody would have gave Easy that off.
Speaker 5: You are knowing that Easy was the brick. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: he wasn't you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Like, if you'd have gave any of those other guys
Speaker 6: that option, they probably wouldn't have took that option.
Speaker 1: Because let me ask you, and I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you this earlier, do you think Easy was persuaded into
Speaker 1: like Jerry's point of view or do you think it
Speaker 1: was Easy's idea?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: I don't think it was Easy, Okay, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't either know he gave him the gang.
Speaker 3: I think Jerry gave me. Jerry said, yo, and it
Speaker 3: was the It was the norm. Doing foulshit was the norm.
Speaker 3: And you don't even know it's foul shit, like all
Speaker 3: the contract shit that we talk about now, Like you know,
Speaker 3: if we learn to be managers, we learned it from
Speaker 3: this person, then we managed this person and we put
Speaker 3: them on another contract.
Speaker 1: That's normal, but it's foul.
Speaker 3: And then as we keep going, we say, hold on, man,
Speaker 3: this contract fucked up because that's the norm, and that's
Speaker 3: the thing man, right, And this is the thing about
Speaker 3: hip hop, and this is my maybe it's my not
Speaker 3: even say.
Speaker 1: About hip hop.
Speaker 3: But the reason why hip hop should have been and
Speaker 3: is different is because it encompassed the whole culture that
Speaker 3: was more than the genre of the music itself that
Speaker 3: was being monetized by the industry. It had the opportunity
Speaker 3: and still has the opportunity as a full on culture
Speaker 3: that has a lot to offer more than the music
Speaker 3: that's being monetized. But what did the industry do, whether
Speaker 3: we say it's nefarious or not, They broke up the
Speaker 3: cost these breakdancers, they don't make money, and these DJs
Speaker 3: ain't shit anymore.
Speaker 1: But these coffiti artists don't do nothing. And but not
Speaker 1: only that, it's the biggest thing that we mentioned it
Speaker 1: slightly is the East Coast and West Coast like when
Speaker 1: you actually look at it, East Coast and West Coast
Speaker 1: are the same people with different That was a divide
Speaker 1: and conquer opportunity.
Speaker 3: Fucking accents and to monetize while you're dividing and conquer, right,
Speaker 3: conquer you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You never see to your point earlier, the.
Speaker 6: Most acts in show business we have egos and we
Speaker 6: want to be the best, and we're gonna turn down
Speaker 6: the house.
Speaker 5: But you never see the rock acts.
Speaker 1: That's what we sell. They don't do that.
Speaker 3: They don't and even if they do, they let they
Speaker 3: one hundred and three and died and then they still live.
Speaker 1: I'll never die, right, Mickjack out here seven hundred years old, right,
Speaker 1: the grand and the grandkids are still trying to get
Speaker 1: in the bigga at nineteen hundred years old. And we
Speaker 1: got wooden teeth just.
Speaker 6: In Smalls and in Tupac, just in those two men.
Speaker 6: If you think about what we got ribbed as older men,
Speaker 6: because you could you could see the trajectory that block was.
Speaker 6: I said, I said, we needed Malcolms.
Speaker 1: We need while he was there.
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 1: That's what that he was there, you know, that's where
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 5: That guy. That's the stuff that I'm talking now that
Speaker 5: I'm trying to do. He was. He was paid in
Speaker 5: that road then right to get out there and talk
Speaker 5: to these boys the way they need to be talking.
Speaker 1: He kind of did it in his acting more than
Speaker 1: his Music's right. Well, well, well he did it in
Speaker 1: his music as well.
Speaker 3: He did, but I'm saying his acting showed him in
Speaker 3: a light that wasn't shown back then for artists. Pop
Speaker 3: made me when this ship rap artists at least, and
Speaker 3: then go to church the next day. I'm saying, I
Speaker 3: wonder I haven't got a ghetto like where he's got
Speaker 3: a baby, he said, Brendan, I wonder why you call
Speaker 3: you bitch? I said, wait a minute, right, that gott
Speaker 3: of me? It's real geminis. Yeah, bro, motherfuckers are crazy,
Speaker 3: relaxed bro with the Gemini. Yeah, my wife is a gymnist.
Speaker 1: Gemini about someone that's a crazy motherfucker Gemini. So you
Speaker 1: on the Tupac side, Yeah, yeah, my wife is on
Speaker 1: the Tubox side to June. But but that's what it's really.
Speaker 1: It's not that Geminis are fake people. Is y'all are
Speaker 1: really those people? When it become those people, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't like the way you're talking about it. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. You are that person and then
Speaker 1: you are this person. We are both, we are everything.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm trying to take you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they send them at all and all of those
Speaker 5: other substances.
Speaker 1: That thing, all the will, that's what it is. I
Speaker 1: listened to Tupac one day and he had a record
Speaker 1: call I Know you love the Old School and and
Speaker 1: and if you listen to it, he breaks down New
Speaker 1: York in a way that only in New Yorker could,
Speaker 1: only a New York could break it down. But then
Speaker 1: the very next record comes on California. Niggas were chucks
Speaker 1: and up balties, that's why. And I believed in town.
Speaker 1: That's right, that was his loyalty speaking as well.
Speaker 3: This motherfucker was a genius e from Baltimore. He was
Speaker 3: both and he's from Baltimo. He was from wasn't he
Speaker 3: born in New York? And then he went to school
Speaker 3: in Baltimore, Brooklyn? I believe born in went to school
Speaker 3: in Baltimore, grew up in Oakland and Oakland.
Speaker 1: He's from everywhere.
Speaker 3: Bro Yes, yes, And that doesn't make him fake, that
Speaker 3: makes them global, that makes.
Speaker 1: Him Yet it makes them more friends in the most
Speaker 1: kids his age.
Speaker 5: When you talk about acting like there's there's no besides
Speaker 5: you got will, there's not another hip hop guy that
Speaker 5: with shops.
Speaker 3: Queen Latifa, Queen latifas dope but pock Yes.
Speaker 5: Academy Award winning kind.
Speaker 1: Of back then, yeah, back then, yeah, Gridlock. What he
Speaker 1: did Gridlock?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought he was. We got a round of that.
Speaker 6: You know, he was gonna be a great, great fucking
Speaker 6: actor and do things for us in this hip hop space.
Speaker 5: That a louder but but we'll, you know, we'll crush
Speaker 5: that for us.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got classic giant movies out and he's a
Speaker 5: fantastic fucking actor for the Oscars.
Speaker 1: Let's strot that out. There was that actor. I don't
Speaker 1: know what what's that acting. I'm still a little confused that.
Speaker 5: Acting because I've seen something on TV so on them
Speaker 5: on the web.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they tried to break it down.
Speaker 3: The no, that was fake, the one where they showed
Speaker 3: the movie that was that was they created that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: see that's how we're all fucked up nowadays. We don't
Speaker 3: know what's you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They created that, They put it, made it black and white, man,
Speaker 1: look like it.
Speaker 5: Was an old movie that.
Speaker 1: They I got caught to it.
Speaker 5: That was big, made that up? I because, man, how
Speaker 5: do you do that?
Speaker 1: That was a gold move that night?
Speaker 5: And what what shapills saying? I know the one thing
Speaker 5: he wouldn't have done it. He's enjoyed the rest of
Speaker 5: his evening. Uh, speaking about our Chris Rock took that
Speaker 5: swallowed that.
Speaker 1: He handled that man.
Speaker 5: Man, that that was the cold what. I don't know
Speaker 5: what the hell?
Speaker 6: No, yes, I do out of I would have lost
Speaker 6: at that fucking and I don't think i'd have been
Speaker 6: able to hold that one.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: Am I going too far?
Speaker 3: They told, Okay, now you gotta give credit to Chris
Speaker 3: Rock on that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Rock nothing, but look, I've I've always had the
Speaker 6: greatest respect for him as an artist, even when he
Speaker 6: was when when he was doing the SNL big you
Speaker 6: could tell he was writing.
Speaker 5: And I'm a writer.
Speaker 1: So that's about Chris Rock. Yeah, I thought you would
Speaker 1: have been mad at him for c before I thought
Speaker 1: he was a say, pooky, you mean that the boys thing?
Speaker 5: He was doing it.
Speaker 1: It was one of the Oh I didn't even think
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 5: One of them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, the ship wasn't funny, you know, But
Speaker 6: I ain't mad at nobody's ship. Minister Society. It was
Speaker 6: a dude named Doc in that movie with the biggest
Speaker 6: d O C on his hat. It was watch the
Speaker 6: shorts brother or something in the movie.
Speaker 1: So when they was in the room watching the him
Speaker 1: doing the ship, the the.
Speaker 5: Guys walking around with the hat on and say, d
Speaker 5: o h, yes, I've always.
Speaker 1: Been there Pink from Friday.
Speaker 5: W No, I'm talking about Minister Society. It was a
Speaker 5: young dude.
Speaker 3: If it's with two shots, they watching him do the robbery,
Speaker 3: they just watched him like they're having fun.
Speaker 1: They got the shotgun right, Yeah, that's not what he said.
Speaker 1: You think you're wrong and nothing that this different movie.
Speaker 1: I'm up, but I'm outside.
Speaker 6: Yeah, rober I was there. That's why they in the
Speaker 6: movie spread out of concert. I'm there through the whole movie.
Speaker 6: I don't say a whole lot, but I'm there.
Speaker 1: But uh, is that why that movie is so fucking great?
Speaker 5: Because I was there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Maybe what you want consultants the whole time.
Speaker 6: Now, they asked me some questions and ship and I
Speaker 6: did you know, Jerry called me and said, these folks
Speaker 6: want to talk to you. I gave him my stories,
Speaker 6: but if you really want to tell the stories, you
Speaker 6: gotta go to Jinks. He knows them all and he
Speaker 6: tells him so well, and he don't give a shit.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Did you ever think it would be this like this war?
Speaker 1: Like I noticed, it's like an appliche type of question.
Speaker 1: Do you ever think the hip hop was big at
Speaker 1: this war? But it's like did you I.
Speaker 5: Think we on the other side of the messed up parts?
Speaker 1: Other side is good or bad? Good?
Speaker 5: I think the machine is employed it is, you know.
Speaker 5: I think all those old systems are falling apart.
Speaker 6: They're starting to eat each other, which opens the door
Speaker 6: for us to build new systems that work for us,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, because one of the creators
Speaker 6: control the business and then we win. The machine controls
Speaker 6: the business because they created the only lanes and you
Speaker 6: can only play. You can only walk through this door
Speaker 6: if you walk through it the way they want you
Speaker 6: to walk through. That's the only way you get in
Speaker 6: these lanes. So we have to develop lanes for hours. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and for those that's coming behind us, because it's just
Speaker 6: dollars and cents. You know, I don't give a damn
Speaker 6: about having an academy for the best woo to woo
Speaker 6: to woo.
Speaker 5: I just want to make my great heart, make my money,
Speaker 5: feed my kids.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 5: I don't need y'all to tell me what y'all think
Speaker 5: is dope. Hell, y'all are whack.
Speaker 1: The accolades don't mean shit if you can't feed your family.
Speaker 6: Snooper's mad at the Grammys. They never gave him a Grammy.
Speaker 6: I don't know if Eminem ever got a Grammy. These
Speaker 6: guys are mad at the Grammys.
Speaker 1: Do we need a hip hop polar Fan or hip
Speaker 1: hop Grammys outright? Bro?
Speaker 5: We need we need it all. Let's need to own
Speaker 5: it and control it, monetize it, you know, and sell
Speaker 5: out for us. Right.
Speaker 6: We need to get all the youngsters with the money
Speaker 6: and say, let's do this thing together. You know, come
Speaker 6: in in and sit your ass down somewhere and let's
Speaker 6: make some money together. But let's build together. Let's let's
Speaker 6: concentrate on education.
Speaker 15: Matter of fact, www dot doc cares dot org is
Speaker 15: my nonprofit.
Speaker 5: I've been doing it for about eight months now, building
Speaker 5: the structure around this movement. And I can't get too
Speaker 5: deep into it, man. But the thing that I'm doing
Speaker 5: at the end of the movie.
Speaker 6: Out there in them fields with the cares, and that's
Speaker 6: the movement that But it's I told yod Is, I
Speaker 6: made the movie.
Speaker 5: And run into whatever struggle I am trying to get
Speaker 5: it out.
Speaker 6: But the stuff that's going on at the end when
Speaker 6: Peter Johnson gives me that speech that's being built right now.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 6: So that when the movie and this is my guess, yodd,
Speaker 6: so that when that movie touches down, you're gonna be
Speaker 6: able to see that on the screen and then be
Speaker 6: able to look at your witness see that shit gone.
Speaker 6: I saigned, Wow, And that is a sign of change.
Speaker 6: Change has not come. And like Sam Cook used to
Speaker 6: sing about it, we here know, we here that we
Speaker 6: came to change this right here, and we're going to
Speaker 6: get these young boys ourselves and instructure.
Speaker 5: These young men in a way.
Speaker 6: All they wanted some money, Let's go find some money.
Speaker 6: Are they wanted some power, Let's delegate some power. Let's
Speaker 6: teach these young men respect. I don't want you to
Speaker 6: give your guns back.
Speaker 5: And you need you may need them things, you know,
Speaker 5: but what you're doing with them right now is costing
Speaker 5: you more than you gaining. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: You're not doing nothing with it but playing video games
Speaker 5: in real life, and you don't get to get back
Speaker 5: up when they pop your ass in real life. You
Speaker 5: don't get an.
Speaker 6: Extra life and get the bounce back up and do
Speaker 6: this sit again, You out of there, you know, And
Speaker 6: so I want these young kids to be there for
Speaker 6: their sons. I'm trying to get you right for yours
Speaker 6: because why you're dressing him like you and you're giving
Speaker 6: them your matter rhythms, you're really just teaching them.
Speaker 5: To be you.
Speaker 6: And if you're gonna be dead at thirty three, then
Speaker 6: what are you teaching them? You're teaching them be dead
Speaker 6: at twenty three? Right, Gotta think about it, man, think
Speaker 6: about it, and get your your head out of your ass,
Speaker 6: you know, with all due respect, and start thinking about
Speaker 6: our communities. That's ours. You don't want the police coming
Speaker 6: in there doing that, then we don't want nobody doing
Speaker 6: it nobody.
Speaker 5: Now, if you get outside this circle, you have at
Speaker 5: it right, you know. But you want to bust somebody
Speaker 5: in there butt, go to bed hills and bust them, well,
Speaker 5: don't do that in here. And you have it all
Speaker 5: day long.
Speaker 6: See how long that will last? Henna last too much
Speaker 6: longer because they not having that.
Speaker 5: So we shouldn't know that. We should be able to
Speaker 5: talk to these men, young men and help.
Speaker 6: Them see they power, help them see what's possible for them,
Speaker 6: you know, because it's it's way bigger than some Jordan's
Speaker 6: and and some pussy excuse my language, and.
Speaker 5: Holding you know, a thousand dollars worth of ones to here. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean like even buying these big gas change that's
Speaker 5: worth three four hundred, five hundred thousand, winding it to
Speaker 5: the strip club on Saturday night. But you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the same you took three of you
Speaker 5: guys that same million dollars.
Speaker 6: To to quote NISI, it's a hundred acres m You're
Speaker 6: not gonna find a better way to, you know, to
Speaker 6: to get that money straight and reinvest in it in
Speaker 6: something like that, because soon as you wear that chain
Speaker 6: out somebody wanted to take it, it's already lost its value.
Speaker 6: But the one that you put that that million dollars
Speaker 6: into that undred acres, it's not only it's gonna feed you,
Speaker 6: it's gonna feed.
Speaker 5: Your kids, kids kids. If you do the right ship
Speaker 5: with that land, you know what I mean, If you
Speaker 5: the way they doing our food supply these days, you
Speaker 5: got this gold ain't going out the way. And Bill's Gates,
Speaker 5: Bill's Bill Gates. He's a Bill Gates, Still Gates, Still Gate.
Speaker 3: He's buying up all the land they gm on all
Speaker 3: of them land to like, there's a lot of things
Speaker 3: reasons why you should buy land and grown no.
Speaker 5: Less, consolidate your power, your understanding and get out of
Speaker 5: that uh NWA mentality, the n W with our Q
Speaker 5: get to go back to the NVAUA with Q menality
Speaker 5: when we was trying to figure out how to get
Speaker 5: them to stop.
Speaker 6: Now you didn't pick picked up where they left off,
Speaker 6: and you're doing a much better job of killing us
Speaker 6: than they are.
Speaker 5: Well you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: That's just just my humble opinion, man, But I see,
Speaker 6: like I said, I think we passed.
Speaker 5: The worst of that, and we in the stage where
Speaker 5: we where we're trying.
Speaker 6: To figure out how to be better about it, how
Speaker 6: to get these young folks and help them monetize their
Speaker 6: art in a way, and then Dallas some folk worth
Speaker 6: for me, give them an avenue where they could go
Speaker 6: like when I don't know if you if you order
Speaker 6: young enough to know to remember the Fever and those
Speaker 6: kind of clubs back then in New York City, those
Speaker 6: things don't exist.
Speaker 5: Anymore, you know what I mean, They don't have nowhere
Speaker 5: to show it.
Speaker 6: If you're not if you're not a adult dealer, you
Speaker 6: don't have nowhere to go because they go everywhere because
Speaker 6: they backing where they go. But if you just regularly
Speaker 6: help our guy or chick, you don't have those those
Speaker 6: spaces anymore.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to recreate those avenues for for just for
Speaker 6: hip hop in general in Dallas, for work because they
Speaker 6: deserve it.
Speaker 1: So one of the biggest things about the documentary was
Speaker 1: you searching for get to your voice back right then
Speaker 1: it's this operation that's presented you again without giving everything up.
Speaker 1: It's presented to you and they say, well, how much
Speaker 1: would this be? He said, Man, you got to be
Speaker 1: in their friend. That was the least your concern.
Speaker 5: Now that's that's the one motherfucker I don't mind ask
Speaker 5: him for.
Speaker 1: But but but me looking as a doc I know,
Speaker 1: I know he would spend that for you. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that in the heartbeat. But but now this
Speaker 1: is probably serious part of this whole interview. Is that
Speaker 1: something you're gonna pursue. No, Bro, you don't know like
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 5: Like when I started making that movie in my heart
Speaker 5: and that I was ready to go.
Speaker 1: Let's go, because you kept saying this one last time.
Speaker 1: I want this one last time. Right.
Speaker 5: But when they came with the A, I think, you know,
Speaker 5: because I don't want to you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but but if it's possible that I can actually
Speaker 6: do it myself and I and I talked to you
Speaker 6: on The guy's name is Peter Bulaski.
Speaker 1: I talked to him a couple of days ago, and he.
Speaker 5: Still want to know what we're doing.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a surgeon. That's the white guy that's
Speaker 1: on the on the on in the movie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was gonna come here with me. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I was trying to get him to come here.
Speaker 1: I love his honesty, see you, I love his honest
Speaker 1: He gave you the real percentage.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know. And it it didn't sound good
Speaker 5: good it.
Speaker 1: It didn't sound good.
Speaker 5: No, it didn't sound good.
Speaker 1: It didn't sound great. It did sound good. Did sound
Speaker 1: it sound good? It didn't sound great.
Speaker 5: But there's not.
Speaker 6: Always that that possibility. And to say, you know, you
Speaker 6: think about these very beautiful women when they go out
Speaker 6: and start getting stuff shot in they butt like once
Speaker 6: you get it shot in there, that's it.
Speaker 5: You know, ain't know you can't suck it? I can
Speaker 5: or can't you suck it out? I don't know if
Speaker 5: you can do that, but once you once you take
Speaker 5: that stuff, that's it.
Speaker 6: Well, so I'm very coutious about and I wanted to
Speaker 6: see how if I'm being on the side, I wanted
Speaker 6: to see what people's thoughts.
Speaker 1: Were through the film.
Speaker 5: Just in general. I did it in the film.
Speaker 6: I made it a point to get everybody's real tak
Speaker 6: an opinion on it. And some felt this way, some
Speaker 6: felt that way for this reason and for that reason,
Speaker 6: and they was all genuine and serious of it, you know.
Speaker 5: And so I'm still okay thinking about it.
Speaker 6: But I'll say this that that that doing that documentary
Speaker 6: for me was a cathartic experience. It helped me get
Speaker 6: past a lot of shit, even doing the documentary in
Speaker 6: the first place. Folks have been trying to get me
Speaker 6: to do this stuff for a long time and I
Speaker 6: just couldn't see it. But it was let me see
Speaker 6: twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: I met Peter.
Speaker 6: Johnson in twenty nineteen. He took me to the sixty
Speaker 6: second anniversary of the Little Rock nine in Arkansas. I
Speaker 6: went and met those people right, sat and had dinner
Speaker 6: with them, and they told many stories, and that shit
Speaker 6: opened up something. And when I got back to my crib.
Speaker 6: It felt I had like a revelation moment. Jo D
Speaker 6: showed up in my in my front yard and said,
Speaker 6: you can let that that pain that you've been holding
Speaker 6: all this time, you can let it go.
Speaker 5: You you didn't do that. I did that.
Speaker 6: I did that for a purpose, and you're about to
Speaker 6: walk in that purpose. Jo D showed up and said.
Speaker 5: This to me. And I've been doing this ever since.
Speaker 1: Then of a suddenly it's been.
Speaker 5: A slow walk back up the hill.
Speaker 6: But I went and found my own bread, went and
Speaker 6: found the own director, went and found the producers. Wrote
Speaker 6: to motherfucker, myself had to stay on these these these
Speaker 6: white folks like a like a slave master.
Speaker 5: No pun.
Speaker 6: Intended to make sure that this story is told the
Speaker 6: way it needs to be told. And it turned out.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm so proud of it is that no
Speaker 6: one could do it better of hip hop documentaries.
Speaker 1: And is that the name of it? What's the name
Speaker 1: of it?
Speaker 5: The doctor?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the doctor. We gotta flight. I just I just
Speaker 1: want to like, I just want to focus on the
Speaker 1: dock because I'm a documentary guy. I love documentary me too.
Speaker 1: So when I sat there and all the footage you
Speaker 1: got from your mom's, your family to everyone just chiming in.
Speaker 1: It was just like, this was extraordinary, bro, when.
Speaker 5: It come on, When it first come on, and then
Speaker 5: the gangster music start playing.
Speaker 6: And you see that action that's going on, and then
Speaker 6: you jumped right from that to the doctor's chair.
Speaker 5: Yes, and not see all of that ship. Yes it
Speaker 5: lock you in, bro, And the next thing you see
Speaker 5: is me and Dre.
Speaker 1: Immediately immediately you see the doctor saying, it's funny as hell.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's just for the people that they're like
Speaker 1: giving him like vocal and the doctor is just a
Speaker 1: funny guy. The doctor is just sitting there, he's like
Speaker 1: the doctors like you with the doc he was like
Speaker 1: and it's hilarious. But then boom straight into the fucking
Speaker 1: studio with Dre and you're sitting there and now you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to pronounce words.
Speaker 16: Come camaraderie. Yeah, that camaroppery, the camaraderie with you and
Speaker 16: Dre and you sitting there and you joking on him.
Speaker 16: He's joking on you back, y'all just talking. It's just
Speaker 16: like that to me is friendship, Yeah, relationship.
Speaker 1: To me, it's like, you know, I wish Sonny is
Speaker 1: there like me and Sonny, he's my friend. I met
Speaker 1: him through herefn right here. But I could always joke
Speaker 1: on Sonny in the worst way, and he knows I
Speaker 1: don't mean it in the worst and I don't meet
Speaker 1: him right there, and I don't mean it in the
Speaker 1: worst way. And it was the same thing that I
Speaker 1: saw with you and Dre, Like as soon as the
Speaker 1: ship started, he goes, hey, man, this is my friend.
Speaker 1: He'd been sucking up for a long time. That means
Speaker 1: you guys have been through the ringer. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: all that means is y'all been there on that he's got.
Speaker 5: He can say that.
Speaker 6: Because he knows, you know, if you push the wrong button,
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a problem. But I know that you
Speaker 6: saying that for love and for a fact, And that's
Speaker 6: why I gave him there. When I came in from
Speaker 6: this side, that was me helping this joke out and
Speaker 6: it played well. I mean, so we know each other.
Speaker 6: I know the tred is great at what he do,
Speaker 6: and my my thro my purpose is to help people.
Speaker 1: So I always love that.
Speaker 5: I love that's what I do.
Speaker 1: BRO all good at that, But there's not too many
Speaker 1: people in life just like that. That's why it makes
Speaker 1: you special. But I want to get to this story
Speaker 1: of you jumping in a limo.
Speaker 5: With the gang matters in the back.
Speaker 1: And you just took the limo.
Speaker 5: And and look so this was uh we was, and
Speaker 5: it's in the movie. This is when future shot had
Speaker 5: turned to death Row and it's that party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. I never you about future shock at all.
Speaker 1: Future shock that was pre didn't know that that wasn't
Speaker 1: widely Yeah it wasn't.
Speaker 5: They don't. They're not undersay, Bro, they don't tell the
Speaker 5: history is written.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the craziest.
Speaker 5: But it ain't.
Speaker 1: That's history is not the truth.
Speaker 5: His story.
Speaker 1: His story is written by the victors.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 1: So they're giving you their narrative of what of what
Speaker 1: happens true. That's why Christopher Columbus discovered America.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: But when you watch the documentary, what you get is
Speaker 6: the real, unadulterated truth. And you can tell that that's
Speaker 6: what you're getting and it's not coming from me, It's
Speaker 6: coming from them.
Speaker 5: Right, you know what I mean? And so uh huh.
Speaker 5: One of the the.
Speaker 6: The blessings is to be able to just be able
Speaker 6: to know that you know that that's real coming from them. No,
Speaker 6: he said, he's never seen Drake.
Speaker 5: Smile like that.
Speaker 6: And you can generally see that dras happy and shit
Speaker 6: like he's always guarded when you get on camera, and
Speaker 6: people at that level, you know, they got to.
Speaker 5: Watch their mouths and watch they're guarded. But dres and that,
Speaker 5: you know, he's just happy to be there. You know
Speaker 5: the same thing with him and you, You and the
Speaker 5: dog and ship everybody.
Speaker 1: And everybody's just happy. They're happy to lend their time
Speaker 1: to a legend, and that resonates. I'm telling you, whoever
Speaker 1: sees this documentary, it's gonna be like wow, because people
Speaker 1: sincerely the same way you want to see everybody win.
Speaker 1: I want to see you motherfucking win. I'm being honest.
Speaker 5: I was talking here.
Speaker 6: Uh they was talking about it and they slipping in
Speaker 6: my mind. Uh ah that shit, that shit lost my mom.
Speaker 6: But it's something about, uh, the way this game does
Speaker 6: us that that's somebody in my space.
Speaker 5: Or somebody was saying that. There's a lot of folks prayed,
Speaker 5: but that's why I'm still here.
Speaker 6: R Like when that reg happened, it was so many
Speaker 6: people crying and praying that that's the reason I'm still here.
Speaker 5: So they was calling God on speed. Died like, man,
Speaker 5: help my guy, yep, and he said, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, And I've heard that so.
Speaker 6: Many times over over my life that I know that
Speaker 6: it's folks that are that want this win from me
Speaker 6: better than I want it for myself. But and so
Speaker 6: that's why I'm gonna walk in it when g O.
Speaker 6: D Decides to give it to me with grace, because
Speaker 6: it's because.
Speaker 5: They prayed that hard that he says, I'm gonna give
Speaker 5: it to him this way, and I'm gonna be the
Speaker 5: man if they want that, they need me to be
Speaker 5: the respect that gift when it comes, you know, and
Speaker 5: shine like a mother.
Speaker 1: You can believe that or you're doing it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: use the bathroom real crazy too. Then there I got
Speaker 1: one more question and that's it. But ho yo yo,
Speaker 1: Like I told you, man, I watched the documentary this
Speaker 1: is it was so entertaining too me. But it's one
Speaker 1: part of the documentary that I want to ask you.
Speaker 1: And Dre says he does not regret a lot of
Speaker 1: things in life, but one of the things that he
Speaker 1: regretted in life was when you came over the house
Speaker 1: and he wished he would have told you to stay
Speaker 1: at the house before the accident. Before the accident.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was that morning. Uh, I had been shooting.
Speaker 6: This was before the sex compade, because.
Speaker 1: You came to the video six hours Yeah, I was six.
Speaker 5: Hours late because I was hanging out with shooting. You
Speaker 5: know what man doing again And I'm six hours late
Speaker 5: to the formula. To the formula.
Speaker 1: They're making the best wrap up they are And if
Speaker 1: you look at fifty cents in the club, that's kind
Speaker 1: of like the same video. That's the formula that I
Speaker 1: know what I know, shout shout out the fifth Fifth,
Speaker 1: my guy.
Speaker 5: He's always so respectful and give me queens even queens
Speaker 5: call Fifth and said you to show up from a video?
Speaker 5: He said, tell me where you know what I mean. Uh,
Speaker 5: it was just scheduling. But God had asked for.
Speaker 6: Very few people, the people that I respect. That that
Speaker 6: that was that was gonna mean something to the story
Speaker 6: for me. But tremendous love and respect for filth because
Speaker 6: what what what what.
Speaker 5: You get is the it's the outside version of the
Speaker 5: street version.
Speaker 6: I remember, there's the thing I keep seeing over and
Speaker 6: over again on the web of y'all always together somewhere.
Speaker 1: It's right, it's just the first but that freestyle, that
Speaker 1: freestyle is legendary, and that freestyle orco legendary continue.
Speaker 6: So from that, from that, POV, the dude has always
Speaker 6: been that guy, you know. And so when he came
Speaker 6: to l A and and connected with Dre Man's and
Speaker 6: that in the club beat, mm hmm, you know it's
Speaker 6: it was pretty much overweight.
Speaker 5: But Lorie, yeah, yeah, man, I don't know how many
Speaker 5: of these things.
Speaker 1: No, please come on, give me one. But I brought
Speaker 1: these shirts because let me finish the question, because when
Speaker 1: Dre said, let me give us the shirt I'm taking.
Speaker 1: Is there any regret that you have that because Dra
Speaker 1: said that that one regret that he have is he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't he didn't want you to leave the house
Speaker 1: that day. He wants he wished to keep you. There.
Speaker 1: Is there any regret that you have that you could
Speaker 1: take back anything in this whole thing?
Speaker 5: People asked me that that a lot M and man,
Speaker 5: I love me, m M, the day, I love my kids.
Speaker 1: I'm taking the both and you don't you know your thought.
Speaker 5: Changed any of that. I don't have my kids.
Speaker 1: If you change any of that, any of that trajectory,
Speaker 1: I'm not who I am today.
Speaker 5: And so what I learned from that twenty seven years
Speaker 5: was to learn in your own personal life where you are.
Speaker 6: Most folks solve my path as destruction. But there's a
Speaker 6: difference between destruction and construction. When you see a building
Speaker 6: implode like the nine one one not a level head.
Speaker 6: It took five, ten, fifteen seconds for them things to
Speaker 6: be out of there. If they were to building things back,
Speaker 6: it would take years for those things.
Speaker 5: So destruction is like this. Construction takes a while.
Speaker 3: And I had when I had that accident, My moment
Speaker 3: of destruction was instantaneous.
Speaker 6: But had I known that, every day after that, I
Speaker 6: was in construction mode getting here, I could have.
Speaker 5: Had a better time at it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But who I am today, I got a lot of
Speaker 5: respect for that dude.
Speaker 6: Man, I got a lot of respect for that guy
Speaker 6: because he's a stand up guy. Not too many of
Speaker 6: the motherfuckers exist. I'm not a thug nigga, but I
Speaker 6: don't have no fear of thug niggas. I'm just a
Speaker 6: good nigga.
Speaker 5: That it is the very nast.
Speaker 1: It's not even a question. It's not even a question,
Speaker 1: it's a statement. Do you remember me? You Corruptiz believe
Speaker 1: in Nick Dog?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I came hung out with me in the Bronx. And then,
Speaker 1: well I did not know. I did not know New
Speaker 1: York City was starting to become like gang banging, right,
Speaker 1: So a dude drove through. I remember, a crypt killer
Speaker 1: I had never seen. They lost a fucking dask gave
Speaker 1: him a mac t and I was like, you don't know,
Speaker 1: but because the guy was just driving through, and and like,
Speaker 1: you know New York at the time, we were right,
Speaker 1: I don't know we were We were fucking I gotta
Speaker 1: say we, even though I wasn't. And and then we chilled.
Speaker 5: What was we at?
Speaker 1: We was in the Bronx, he was in the Bronx.
Speaker 5: With see the baseball stadium.
Speaker 1: Right there, And then we was right there at that
Speaker 1: corner store. That's when the guy came CA that's crazy.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 1: And but by the way, I was like, oh, because
Speaker 1: I didn't understand the series biness of what had just happened.
Speaker 1: And the guy I knew. His name is O. G. Mack.
Speaker 1: He's a great guy. He did this every day he
Speaker 1: didn't know there was no actual crips. He was gonna
Speaker 1: be on the block. He was doing that. He was
Speaker 1: just doing like that. That was just what it was
Speaker 1: at the time. I'm sorry. And I remember we leaving
Speaker 1: there and then I brung everybody into my crib. You
Speaker 1: remember you came to my crib. You came to my
Speaker 1: actual real house, and I invited to everyone. We had
Speaker 1: a barbecue each other and I was.
Speaker 5: Apologized because that was a bad company. I was not
Speaker 5: the one that bend you wanted to.
Speaker 1: Mac was like, give me the gun. I was like,
Speaker 1: with a minute, d c bro, Like, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, thank y'all, man, you know, because
Speaker 1: what I knew there's no such thing as a as
Speaker 1: A didn't who you are in LA and who we
Speaker 1: were in New York the same fun that's right, bro,
Speaker 1: And like it was just it was you said it earlier.
Speaker 1: I felt like it really was. The magazine kind of
Speaker 1: like told us that we were different. Like even if
Speaker 1: you look at the Source of Wars and you look
Speaker 1: at that ship, even okay, Source Awars was a magazine company,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I felt love my
Speaker 1: first time going to la I felt, I felt they
Speaker 1: funcked with me. I felt I fucked with them.
Speaker 3: But then when I read yes, hip hop was everybody
Speaker 3: loved it. If you loved hip hop, you was loving
Speaker 3: it from wherever you were at. If you was dope
Speaker 3: over in Chicago, you was dope in Atlanta, la Is
Speaker 3: wherever the fuck. If you was into it, you was
Speaker 3: into it man. And the media started to say, now, well,
Speaker 3: you know what, there's this region, there's this region, is
Speaker 3: this region, and y'alln'.
Speaker 1: Get along with this guy. Y'all don't get along with
Speaker 1: this guy's.
Speaker 5: Marketing and promotion media UH focused bs BS is what
Speaker 5: drives this country.
Speaker 6: And I used this analogy when I try to talk
Speaker 6: to folks about it, how the system uses UH marketing
Speaker 6: and promotion to lean on motherfuckers.
Speaker 5: You can see what America, and I'll saying this to
Speaker 5: you guys earlier. You can see what America.
Speaker 6: Did to us, right, the black and the browns of
Speaker 6: us that are in this space. You can see our
Speaker 6: bruises and our weapons. You can see our communities tore
Speaker 6: up and struggle. You can't see what America did to
Speaker 6: them white folks, but their pain is there too, and
Speaker 6: it's killing them right now because they can't face it.
Speaker 1: They've even and it is destroying.
Speaker 5: They are beginning to eat themselves from the inside. Imagine
Speaker 5: being that seven year old young person that your mother
Speaker 5: and father took you to the Big Neck where they
Speaker 5: were hanging negroes and cutting their bodies off and eating them.
Speaker 6: Imagine being that kid who's a grown grown up person
Speaker 6: now living with this in there. What that's doing to
Speaker 6: you on inside? You know, I mean, you can't say
Speaker 6: it's wrong, blah blah blah. It's a whole lot of
Speaker 6: them folks out there that's dying on inside, right, you know.
Speaker 6: And so what what embracing the spiritual aspect of my
Speaker 6: life now made me understand.
Speaker 5: Is we are all in this movie together.
Speaker 6: And Shod don't have step kids, right because he just
Speaker 6: as kids, but we all have roles to play in
Speaker 6: his movie.
Speaker 5: He's the great writer of this movie. And so just
Speaker 5: like Ethan Hawker.
Speaker 6: And then said in Training Day, in that movie they
Speaker 6: trying to kill each other at the Academy Awards, they
Speaker 6: stand on the on the stage and the hug and
Speaker 6: their friends because they realize that's the roles that they're
Speaker 6: playing in the movie scripts for them, and so just
Speaker 6: like us as human beings, when we reach that stage,
Speaker 6: when we finally get to that stage, we're gonna be
Speaker 6: able to kick it together because we would have played
Speaker 6: our part in this movie, hopefully to the best of
Speaker 6: our ability. When we get to that stage, that grace,
Speaker 6: if we understand we did our part, we can get
Speaker 6: our Academy award.
Speaker 5: And kick it well.
Speaker 1: DC, let me just tell you something.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's the only academy h I used to
Speaker 6: really be into that shit.
Speaker 5: I got one.
Speaker 6: I can't wait to stay on the stage and think
Speaker 6: that d D. It doesn't mean as much to me
Speaker 6: anymore because when you see through the veil and you
Speaker 6: understand what it's really about, what what what it really means,
Speaker 6: and how all of this depth, destruction, devradation can exist
Speaker 6: in this space and nobody say nothing until one day
Speaker 6: something happens and now everything pops out. Now everybody got
Speaker 6: something to say about it. You've been holding onto.
Speaker 5: That doll for thirty years.
Speaker 6: Now you want a cookie because you got all these
Speaker 6: secrets you want to spell.
Speaker 5: There's no intivity in that, right, you know now? Yet
Speaker 5: now I feel like.
Speaker 6: You're trying to capitalize on stuff on that person's pain,
Speaker 6: and the best way you can do it. If if
Speaker 6: you were trying to be this altruistic person, you had
Speaker 6: plenty of time to do that. You know, if you
Speaker 6: was trying to get get your rocks off and do
Speaker 6: the right thing and be the right you had plenty
Speaker 6: of time to do that. Never kick him on fucker
Speaker 6: when he's downright, because you never know when you're gonna
Speaker 6: be down there.
Speaker 3: Right, and everybody's gonna have the opportunity to be down
Speaker 3: that's right, every single person.
Speaker 6: We all get those chances. And I never was the
Speaker 6: one thing I was saying earlier about my movie.
Speaker 5: I never said one single negative thing about any person.
Speaker 5: It's like that ride. I took all of this on
Speaker 5: me because it was my It's Mara, you get you
Speaker 5: niggas get no.
Speaker 1: Even when you said you said something about Sugar, you said,
Speaker 1: I'm going to the bad to say about Sugar. He
Speaker 1: took my credit and he took my money, and you
Speaker 1: still didn't say nothing bad about him. He was like,
Speaker 1: but uh, that's my fault. You, that's right, said, cause
Speaker 1: you you have to have your business together. And I
Speaker 1: thought that was remarkable for you to even state something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 6: Bro, you gotta learn I'm not the first one. I
Speaker 6: won't be the last one, you know. I'm just the
Speaker 6: one that's gonna tell it. I'm gonna tell it from
Speaker 6: my perspective so that the new one's coming up. No,
Speaker 6: it's not your you can you can't put you have
Speaker 6: to protect you. The machine is gonna always be the machine,
Speaker 6: cause that's what it was made to be. It was
Speaker 6: not designed and built to feed you. It was a
Speaker 6: little sign and built to steal from you, right, And
Speaker 6: it's great at it and it's going to continue.
Speaker 5: To be great at it.
Speaker 6: So you have to, uh educate yourself on your power,
Speaker 6: educate yourself on your worth. And when you make something
Speaker 6: that's beautiful, you don't let these motherfuckers tell you it's
Speaker 6: worth this because the.
Speaker 5: Market said this. Man, damn the market, and the market
Speaker 5: can kiss my ass. I don't get back, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying about. Now, you're gonna give me what
Speaker 5: I think my art is worth and then we can
Speaker 5: talk business. That's man. I don't blame you for being you.
Speaker 5: You're not.
Speaker 6: Don't blame me for being me. You know you can't
Speaker 6: blackball me because I know the real boss. You know,
Speaker 6: it's a g O D that ain't known. Let me
Speaker 6: pray on your one fucking hand.
Speaker 1: So that's your g Is this documentary leading to a
Speaker 1: book and the book leading to the full fledged feature film?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because I ain't gonna lie. Look, I told
Speaker 1: you earlier. I said that, I mentioned it earlier. I
Speaker 1: was like, after Washing the NBA movie, I was like,
Speaker 1: where does it take it from there? But then Washington documentary,
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, you ain't.
Speaker 5: Got when you watch it and I say this humble
Speaker 5: out of content. The movie is not fucking with this
Speaker 5: thing because.
Speaker 1: It's the story, bro, the true story.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the story. It's wonderful that comes.
Speaker 1: It's a movie. It's a movie that is is extracting
Speaker 1: to gor dumb facts.
Speaker 5: The guys.
Speaker 1: I love that movie. I love trailer.
Speaker 3: It's a great movie. But it's a movie. Yours is
Speaker 3: a documentary. You co signed the movie, right, Yeah?
Speaker 5: The movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a movie. As a Hollywood movie.
Speaker 5: I went to the movie and did mushrooms in the movie,
Speaker 5: and I thought I.
Speaker 1: Thought it.
Speaker 5: I thought it was great. The last five minutes when
Speaker 5: that ship started to kick in, I was like.
Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, but that's your real that But there's
Speaker 1: only five people in the world who could probably relate
Speaker 1: to those last five minutes of that movie, which you
Speaker 1: didn't like, but probably what we love is probably like
Speaker 1: to get this inside information. It's ship that you probably knew.
Speaker 5: No, I'm talking about them. I show kick.
Speaker 1: Because the show the screen got big, moving.
Speaker 5: And ship down on the floor.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: My wife was like, man, Kit show as you don't
Speaker 1: show anymore.
Speaker 6: No, I smoke wig, you know, but I try to
Speaker 6: stay far enough away from something that's gonna lead somewhere
Speaker 6: because it ain't gonna it would bro.
Speaker 5: That monkey get out the bag. Man, it's he's a
Speaker 5: cold motor scooter because yeah, I let him have it,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 6: But I enjoyed the movement. Took my wife to say it, uh,
Speaker 6: and we enjoyed it. When I get the opportunity to
Speaker 6: do mine, i'd rather be a series.
Speaker 1: Because you almost did it in the documentary. It's like
Speaker 1: it's like reenactments in the documentary.
Speaker 6: That's right, And there's a lot of stuff that I
Speaker 6: shot that I couldn't use. Really, story is too big,
Speaker 6: it's too meaty.
Speaker 5: You only get an hour and a half. I never
Speaker 5: talked about Atlanta.
Speaker 6: Remember when I told you about having the rap packing
Speaker 6: the little Chad, I didn't talk about any of that
Speaker 6: and have time, you know, I can remember.
Speaker 3: Being in.
Speaker 1: Dy y'all called yourself a rap pack for real, Like.
Speaker 6: I'm just used that terminology because everybody was kind of
Speaker 6: stars all that.
Speaker 1: Like like the old rat pack. Those correct, right, you see.
Speaker 5: Chad, you see pimps and scarface and too short and
Speaker 5: breed and box.
Speaker 1: Because when you said chat, you're talking about yeah right there.
Speaker 5: And man, we was riding. We was around that motherfucker
Speaker 5: kicking it.
Speaker 1: That must have been crazy. I stole the cameras following
Speaker 1: your deal.
Speaker 5: So I had some money. Come on. You couldn't tell
Speaker 5: me nothing, but those were some of the best times,
Speaker 5: just your good.
Speaker 3: Not that.
Speaker 5: It was it was you know, it was in god Rest.
Speaker 6: Uh hm. We we lost a lot of great men
Speaker 6: two bullshit.
Speaker 5: So now.
Speaker 6: We want to save as many as we can. Bro
Speaker 6: We the gangster ship is about saving us.
Speaker 5: That's the most gangster.
Speaker 6: Thing because it's odds glory, come on in, because I
Speaker 6: don't think being uh somebody that that loves and respects
Speaker 6: their spirituality, it's soft.
Speaker 5: Go back to uh.
Speaker 6: Samson or Moses or David. You know all of those
Speaker 6: was real niggas that did real nigga said, you know.
Speaker 1: Jesus is real. He was coming niggas up for selling
Speaker 1: fake bibles. Come on, that world up. He was starting
Speaker 1: niggas out for some of the fake bibles. There bibles.
Speaker 1: If he was selling fake bibles, Jesus came through with
Speaker 1: a hoodie on. That's a lie. Oh sir, No, man,
Speaker 1: there was no Bible. But yeah, the Bible came after
Speaker 1: you read the Bible. Come on, you definitely never read
Speaker 1: the Bible. I read the Bible. Was in jail. Everybody
Speaker 1: beat the Bible Testament. He was beating them up for
Speaker 1: the Old Testament.
Speaker 5: That's the really I heard. When you get in there,
Speaker 5: and that you get that.
Speaker 1: Timebody become religious in jail for some reason.
Speaker 5: He already said.
Speaker 6: Everything is divine because one day in your life you
Speaker 6: might have a moment when you say when you talk
Speaker 6: to him, you said, God, if you get me out
Speaker 6: of this ship, we all do it.
Speaker 5: And I said to him, you, I asked several of those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might have had seventeen thousand, man, those.
Speaker 6: Yo did if I can get down from this side
Speaker 6: I never climbed back up here no more. And that's
Speaker 6: real life, man, no matter what yours is. You know
Speaker 6: what I mean, whether it's.
Speaker 1: Bydism okay, Jesus Per cam Ry, Okay, you know we
Speaker 1: did say do you have on the instance if I
Speaker 1: do pussy? Oh my goodness, crazy, I want to go there,
Speaker 1: I got, I got those all over there. You know
Speaker 1: what's crazy? I feel like the more I drink, he's
Speaker 1: drunker for the more I dream.
Speaker 5: Now, that's what I say. That would love and respect.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely because my wife knows. She was what's that
Speaker 1: called a.
Speaker 5: Dude. My dude delivered my my child.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, that gangster.
Speaker 5: My my first wife delivered.
Speaker 3: So she had to be there through the whole process,
Speaker 3: even before the child was born. Like so, and that's
Speaker 3: we're talking about like a like an artist. What is
Speaker 3: that librity that's doing that?
Speaker 1: Your child delivered in a jazi Like, no, this is.
Speaker 3: Well it doesn't always mean that, but yeah it was
Speaker 3: it was in our case. Yeah, my son was born
Speaker 3: that way as well.
Speaker 5: Now we was, we was doing it.
Speaker 1: I do say she wanted to deliver, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: And my wife was like, okay, I want I think
Speaker 5: I can do a natural birth.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, that's no, no, no, no epidural
Speaker 1: no nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife and that man with both my kids. No,
Speaker 3: my my second, my second, my mam most feral, not
Speaker 3: monster she was. She didn't drink any monster.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: Ay, we were have supported.
Speaker 5: My wife was in the last moment that she was.
Speaker 6: Bouncing on this little bottle when she thought she had
Speaker 6: made a mistake, you know, like she's like, I don't
Speaker 6: think I could do it. But I was like, nigga,
Speaker 6: youah man, I'm squeezing out here. No, you're finna do
Speaker 6: this ship you know?
Speaker 1: Is her first?
Speaker 3: Is it her first child? That was the second one,
Speaker 3: because they said the second one is easier. We tried
Speaker 3: to do it the first and my wife couldn't do it.
Speaker 5: No, my this was our second. The first one she
Speaker 5: got shot and.
Speaker 3: I guess she thought she got what she got the yeah,
Speaker 3: but my wife tried to do it and then and
Speaker 3: my daughter was she wasn't coming out, so they had
Speaker 3: to take her to the hospital.
Speaker 1: They had to give her that pdurable.
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, the first one she took the shot, but
Speaker 5: the second one, I.
Speaker 1: Guess the Erica talked to him gave her the battle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody was so said I'm gonna do that's okay.
Speaker 1: No, but.
Speaker 6: You she stopped him and said, I don't think I
Speaker 6: can do it. And when we didn't came this far, nigga,
Speaker 6: you're finna do this like we we ain't finna. We
Speaker 6: ain't having no mishaps. You're finna get my sons to
Speaker 6: this motherfucker right now.
Speaker 5: And we and it was about two seconds after that
Speaker 5: that little dude just he just.
Speaker 1: Dove out of that mama in the water in the water.
Speaker 5: No, she had got out.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, oh god, she.
Speaker 5: Out because it wasn't happening. She thought we was gonna
Speaker 5: have to rush rushed to the to the hospital because
Speaker 5: it hadn't happened.
Speaker 6: And half time, we ain't got time to be doing
Speaker 6: no rusting. You're finna, We're finna do this. And I'm
Speaker 6: right here with her, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 6: I'm not letting you go.
Speaker 5: We're finna do this.
Speaker 6: And it took about another couple of minutes and she
Speaker 6: she leaned over and crawled onto the bed and like
Speaker 6: in a doggie styling, dude just came up out of there,
Speaker 6: and by dude called him.
Speaker 5: I got all that shot take.
Speaker 1: Because you like the incense at that time. Then we
Speaker 1: didn't have no PU that day. That would have been
Speaker 1: I mean, he said, but bro, I don't look.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you something I do. It is a master.
Speaker 1: Marketer.
Speaker 6: She's a great business person. Nothing that she does is
Speaker 6: by happenstance. And folks, when they get off into that ship,
Speaker 6: you probably making that day of.
Speaker 5: Course, man. And so I'm a player, play along and
Speaker 5: give up. I'm gonna always do this because most people
Speaker 5: that know me and love me know I'm gonna be
Speaker 5: you know, we just don't push the wrong button because
Speaker 5: then it's all fucked up with just why I don't
Speaker 5: She was not the ass folks or anything, because I
Speaker 5: don't want you to push that wrong button. And I
Speaker 5: have to feel a certain kind of way about you.
Speaker 1: She is sagittarius, she's a pis okay, but that was
Speaker 1: another part of the documentary that made me tear up
Speaker 1: was when y'are sitting down y'all talking and she says,
Speaker 1: I hear you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was cold.
Speaker 1: She said, I hear you, bro, I hear you. Oh,
Speaker 1: I hear you that.
Speaker 5: Look. All of this documentary was just moments being shy,
Speaker 5: so it's real. And when she said that, Nigga, I'm
Speaker 5: my back to the thing.
Speaker 1: Remember, I'm like, oh, I'm like, by the way, I'm
Speaker 1: cursing you out. By the way, I'm like, I can't
Speaker 1: wait to see this. Mother fuckers got me tearing up crazy.
Speaker 1: And when she said that she was and then she
Speaker 1: missed your daughter and she said she hears you, and
Speaker 1: then I was just like damn. Then after that, I
Speaker 1: can't give you no more? Yeah, bro, what Dray says?
Speaker 5: After that?
Speaker 3: After that, I can't give you no more. But that
Speaker 3: ship was just like, oh, your support system is real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like like they like, I want to and let
Speaker 1: let me involve us because we're a part of your
Speaker 1: support system too, right. We love your motherfucking assn't want
Speaker 1: you to because I watched it, even though I watched
Speaker 1: it without you, and I know how much of a
Speaker 1: l a fucking West Coast fan you all come from.
Speaker 1: You're like that much more than me, right, But I
Speaker 1: watched it with you in mind, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. I couldn't wait to get your flowers.
Speaker 1: We couldn't wait because it's something that Snoop said again
Speaker 1: in the documentary that Snoop said, because the deoc ain't
Speaker 1: having that ship, except he's like, he's like, what we
Speaker 1: knew on this ship was done wrong. The d oc
Speaker 1: ain't being quiet. And I love that. I love. I
Speaker 1: love your peers or people that may be younger than
Speaker 1: you and something that's older. Don't mind giving you your
Speaker 1: motherfucking flowers.
Speaker 5: And just so you know.
Speaker 1: We are aren't it to give you your mother's play.
Speaker 1: And I know you gotta go so so we're gonna
Speaker 1: take a couple of flicks and get you to sign
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Because listen, let me just tell
Speaker 1: you something. This nigga got your here. That's the original.
Speaker 3: I bought these when I was a little kiss, got
Speaker 3: these when I got my turntable.
Speaker 1: He ain't even have pubics. That's actually facts.
Speaker 6: With what else that's a little bit too much information.
Speaker 6: But I love and respect you gentlemen so much beyond
Speaker 6: the moniker of hip hop as men. That's about this business,
Speaker 6: that's about this culture. I think that's strong and powerful
Speaker 6: man in their own right. I watched Shrik drink Champs religiously.
Speaker 5: I was doing my homework because I knew that question
Speaker 5: was coming for snoop.
Speaker 1: We're gonna drink. We're gonna drink.
Speaker 6: But what you guys have here, you guys are really
Speaker 6: the cornerstone for what us folks are being able to
Speaker 6: do in this space.
Speaker 5: Oh you know what I mean. WEP for a lot
Speaker 5: of used to get these big ass bags that they
Speaker 5: getting these days. Thank you.
Speaker 1: So I want you to just take them a shot
Speaker 1: for him, get some love. Let's take a shot together.
Speaker 1: He set you up, He set you up. Shot together.
Speaker 1: Come on, you got a bigger ass shot.
Speaker 3: That's better to get you a monster. Deal with drinking
Speaker 3: the monster last night you read. So let's ended like
Speaker 3: this and let's just say no one could do it better.
Speaker 1: No one could do it better. Man, d o C.
Speaker 1: I pray, I wish. I hope everyone gets to see
Speaker 1: this documentary just again. You said that, you say this
Speaker 1: is a fifty year old guy from Kansas. That's a
Speaker 1: that's gonna relate to this. And I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: It's an eight year old from Kansas, it's gonna relate
Speaker 1: to it. There's an eighty eight year old from Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: it's gonna relate to it. This is a worldwide, universal
Speaker 1: story and it's beautiful, Thank you, bro. And not only
Speaker 1: it's beautiful, it's relentless. It's never give up, this triumphant
Speaker 1: stay with who the fuck you are? Stay down because
Speaker 1: it's gonna go down, right. And I loved it. I
Speaker 1: kid you not, man. I cried.
Speaker 3: I cried, and I ain't even I ain't even like
Speaker 3: mad as saying I cried like you shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: I fucking take pride, say. I cried because your story
Speaker 1: is my story. That's right, right, it's not your story alone.
Speaker 1: Claiming it with you, that's right, bro? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. The same way you claim we're DMC story,
Speaker 1: that's right, and the same way we're supposed to claim
Speaker 1: every single story is.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, brother. I don't what I have to
Speaker 3: do to promote this. You tell me you said we're
Speaker 3: gonna host it. Let's host it.
Speaker 1: We could do it here.
Speaker 3: We can do it in the fucking movie theater. No, No,
Speaker 3: I mean I mean in the movie there. Let's host
Speaker 3: the premiere. Let's let's hold party here.
Speaker 1: Let's let we do what. Let's do it at your
Speaker 1: dispos disposal. No, no, we are at no, No, that's serious.
Speaker 1: We are at your disposal. I do not feel like
Speaker 1: you can't because we are you.
Speaker 5: You already said that. I don't forget ship.
Speaker 1: We are we are you, and we're going to support this.
Speaker 1: So but, but, but most importantly, that's in this. By
Speaker 1: saying thank you, yeah, thank you, thank you, I'm saying
Speaker 1: it for behalf of all of hip hop, not just
Speaker 1: me and EFN and all the people here. I'm saying
Speaker 1: this on behalf of the culture. Thank you, the d
Speaker 1: O CIX. If it wasn't for the y'all, I don't
Speaker 1: think he would be here. I don't think I'll be here.
Speaker 1: I don't think Drain with the motherfucker will be here
Speaker 1: rolling blunts. I don't think anybody who will be here
Speaker 1: because it's the diggy diggy doc y'all.
Speaker 5: Y'all, man, bless you.
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