WEBVTT - Episode 403 w/ The D.O.C. 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:12.520 And this is Drink Chaps. 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:16.919 Motherfucking podcast man, he's a legendary queen's rapper. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:18.800 He ain't agree. That's your boy in O r E. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.959 He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What up it's DJ 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.480 E f N. Together they drink it up with some 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.159 of the biggest players, you know what I mean. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.640 And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:34.880 source for drunk drinks Chans mocavery Days New Year's c that'sten. 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:44.199 It's time for drink Champions. Drink up? Motherfucker? Would it good? 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:45.640 Be hopingus with it should be? This your boy in 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:47.720 O r E. What Up? It's DJ e f N 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:54.800 and this is Drink Champs yeap hour make some when 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:59.360 I say calling this man a legend is an understatement. 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.760 Calling him an icon as an understatement. Calling him a 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:10.559 visionary uh uh, A person that is relentless, a person 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.240 that has landed his hand to hip hop and could 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:16.959 singly handily say that he has made hip hop a 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:21.240 better place. Some of your favorite records he's wrote some 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:25.440 of your favorite artists. He's your artist, favorite artist artist. 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:32.240 He's your rapper's favorite rappers rapper. He's your producer's favorite, producer, producer, producer. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:40.480 He is a classic legend icon means so much, and 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:42.360 I want to I don't want to limit to him 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:46.080 to to to because because he's he's he's actually from 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.000 the South, kind of dressed like from the East Coast 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.160 and rhyme almost like from the East. 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:55.480 Coast, but landed and goddamn the West Coast. So he's 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.880 a bit of every coast hip hop. He's a man's man, 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.559 like I said, a legend, legend. And if it wasn't 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:07.400 for him, some of your favorite hip hop artist icons 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.000 will probably never even exist. 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.120 Like I said, he's everyone's favorite. In case you don't 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:13.720 know who the fuck I'm talking about, we talking about 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:22.320 the one only that still might be one of the hardest, 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.000 still might be one of the hardest ship like and 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.360 hip hop when that's to come on. I had so 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:36.359 much fun doing research for this interview, watching the documentary, uh, 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:40.480 watching your old interviews, watch it, listening to the old music. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:45.640 It's like you are sincerely a god of hip hop man, man. 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:46.280 Thank you for that. 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:51.600 Man. 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:57.560 Well, first things first, I gotta get this off my 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.400 chest because I carried it on my there it a 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:04.960 long time and I don't want to go too deep 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:08.440 into it. But but this between me and you, it's personal. 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:18.160 It was up and smoke to it, and it reached out. 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:18.800 Your hand to me. 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.160 And I was in the middle of my addiction, in 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:27.080 the middle of a bad trip, and so I don't 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.120 remember everything perbade him, but I know I was fucked 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.040 up in it. 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.640 So old you in a polymy. No, no, no, no, no, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.760 let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. No, 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.320 You've been such inspiration and to tell you the truth, 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.120 you are legend you. You can't you guys. If it 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.680 wasn't for you guys doing what y'all did, I don't 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:55.080 think the Queen's Bridge slash left rock sound would even 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.200 be invented, you know what I'm saying, because of like like, 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.000 like I said, watching the documentary and going through all 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:06.160 of this and seeing seeing your relentless list. Like there 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.560 was one part of the documentary, by the way, I 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.720 cried twice. I cried twice. There was one part though, 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.640 where Drey just looked in the camera and Dre said, 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:20.719 you can't give it away, but Dre says something that 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.159 you want all of your friends to say, like you 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:30.000 want I cried to the TV, Like, I'm sitting there, 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.440 my barber's cutting my hair and he's like, wait minute, 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.400 because he fills the tears, so I guess he's not. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.719 He don't want to look at me because he looking like, 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.040 holy shit, this thing of nooy. He's really sitting here crying. 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.720 And I love that friendship of yalls, Like how did 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:46.720 y'all develop that relationship? You and Dre? 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:54.320 It's uh, it's a musical. He's the music. 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:59.440 I'm the words, bro mm hm, I am the words. 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.919 What he is it's the music. Wow, And so that 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.919 you can't you know what I'm saying. And this is 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.919 when before the world knew who he was. I knew 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:10.920 who he. 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:16.200 Was world, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.960 But it's it's the sound. It's the quality of the 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:25.960 sound that he produces. It's not the actual production to 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.800 beat making. It's the engineering. It's that when you're in 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:30.640 the studio. 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.599 With the good doctor. I like you call him a 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:33.080 good doctor. 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:37.520 That's the sound that day. It's because you ain't gotta 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.039 go wait till they get mixed. The matter, none of 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:43.279 that high sound in that moment. That's it, and it's 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.760 never gonna change. It's gonna be that dope all the 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:51.400 way through, you know, and I always respected him uh 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.839 immensely for that, for that skill set, I couldn't leave. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:56.640 It, you know what I mean. 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.920 That's why even after what happened to me happened, I 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.719 stayed up under that sound, right, because if I could 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.680 stay close to this sound, I still got these words. 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.560 I might not have the voice to go with it, 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:09.000 you know. 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:15.600 But you know that was like, like like I was 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.719 saying earlier, it's like I heard that you said that 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:22.599 you wanted to you gave up certain times. But the 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.960 outside is looking in. We never saw that part of you. 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.320 We always we only get to see. I don't know 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:28.760 if it's the. 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:33.120 Part that was presented or it's just that much. 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:34.440 Of a hero, you know. What I'm saying is that 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.080 we we didn't see the vulnerability part of you, Like 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.000 you know what I'm saying. So was that something that 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.599 you was hiding or that was like some of you 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:42.240 did on purpose? 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.280 No? Bro, that thank you. 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.360 That's just that's just me as a as a human being, 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:51.200 right right. I never get the show but those sides 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:54.320 because it's never about me, right, It's always about. 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.320 My guys, G O, D, not not the DC. 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.520 Well, yeah, that's ultimate. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.200 But back in those days, it's always about Snoop, Snoop 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.240 and dre Right and so my roles it is just 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:05.600 to be in the back. 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:13.040 And I'm cool with that, sipping on yat. You know, listen. 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.920 I can't wait for this documentary to actually finally come 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:19.440 out because I thought, I swear to God, I'm not 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.320 gassing you up because you here. I thought that straight 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.520 out of confident, was like nothing could be better than that, right, 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:26.480 And I'm sitting back, I'm like, this is no other 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.720 thing story, no other story, And then you want to 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.800 tect to me. You're like, wait a minute, it gets better. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:35.520 You can only imagine. 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.080 I mean, I didn't get to watch it, but there's 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.480 so many layers to your story, going all the way 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:40.240 back to Texas. 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:41.200 Bro it is. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.240 And I used to be humble about the ship, but 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:46.160 I'm starting to get. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:52.920 You know, we're gonna be cocky for you and jump 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:54.800 for the record. We've been trying to get you, you know, 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.160 I've been trying for a long time. Hold on before 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:58.840 you even go, Before you go, because our show was 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.280 about giving people they fly. Snoop said that when he 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.440 got his flowers just better than getting the Grammy because 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.240 it comes for his people. We want to give your 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:06.320 flowers face to face. 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:16.520 Man, man, man, you mean so much hours yes, let 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.600 me tell you, you mean so much, not just to 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.920 west coast, not just to the south, not to the east, 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:22.480 to the whole case. 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.840 Like I can't pitch a hip hop without you. Wow, 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.080 It's like I literally can't. Like I believe your first 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.280 word was eighty seven, eighty seven, eighty seven. I was 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.760 born in seventy seven, so my memory it's always like 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:41.320 they you always existed. So I cannot pitch a hip 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.560 hop without you, like, like for real, you're a real, 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.199 real legend, my brother. Let's just talk about the documentary 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:47.439 without giving up every day, right. 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.920 Yeah, I mean, but we can talk about the story. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:51.880 We don't have to refer the story to the film. 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:53.360 We're here to talk about. 0:08:53.240 --> 0:09:05.760 Story documentary itself. Jen Foe God three hip hop documentary 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.000 all time, yep. And it might not be. 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.760 Two or three, you know what I'm saying, because it's 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:18.160 it is hip hop. I'm the vehicle, but that story 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.440 is about it hip hop. That's why it goes up 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:24.160 through New York up and that it travels like hip hop. 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:25.360 Did you know what I mean. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.400 I love the fact apartment because you I love the 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.320 fact that you even brung the doctors in, like you know, 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.720 when you was checking the a voidable code of course 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.760 and things like that. I love that you didn't even 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:40.640 hide that, like you just you wanted people to know 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.479 your real life because. 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:46.120 It's still an option. Why there's still a lives with that, 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:50.040 you know. Then I think happened and that's a whole 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.000 another bar of ones. But so I'm still living at 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:57.520 this There's some changes I want to make and at 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:01.319 the end, because I want to do something for easy, 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.760 I didn't get a chance to do when they that 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:11.680 should happened. That that happened because his his widow reached 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:13.679 out to me and started talking to me in vacuuming 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:15.280 my master's back. 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:21.160 Oh wow, wow wow. You said something an interview and 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.120 you said, the thing about the documentary is that a 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:27.080 fifty year old white man from Arkansas, from anywhere in 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.520 the world could relate to it. I'm telling you everybody 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.760 can relate. I'm telling you, I'm telling you that that 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.720 documentary is not just a hippy it's a it's a 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:39.280 never give up, it's a it's a it's a fucking 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:44.160 inspirational said life documentary. But it's like it's like, yo, 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:50.400 you're a litless list. You're like you're even say your 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.000 even way to say, you know what, I was one 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.560 of the biggest stars in the world. I lost my voice, 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.160 but I'm not gonna lose my intentions. I'm gonna pay 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:01.000 a team player. Like that ship was just so I 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.439 was good sponsors coming through me. I'm just whoa because 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:08.160 most people once they get the place of being Michael 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.360 Jordan's they don't want to be talked Scottie Pippen, they 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.960 don't want to go to but you not only it 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:15.800 was like you chose that role. He was like, you 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.120 know what, I can't be the player the more, but 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.200 I'm gonna be there. And I'm pining the hardest rhymes 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:23.319 ever because. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.560 Because I want my guys to win. Man, I want them. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.360 I want them to win. Even if I can't win, 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:41.600 somebody gonna win. And and snoop, you could tell the 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.640 character of a man he is because they always give 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.800 it back, like he never goes nowhere without speaking me, 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.520 lifting me up. And if I needed him and called 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:55.959 me to be there, you know, and like jo d 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.200 Bless me Bro. He put me in the grade spot 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.360 to be a with thero and learn some real he 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.640 lessons in his life, you know. And so that's why 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:09.040 I'm now. I tell folks, it's a it's a god thing, 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:12.520 it's not a doc thing. I'm trying to position myself 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.800 for hip hop, not the first fifty because the first fifty. 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:18.240 Was fucked up. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:22.679 The next fifty when we get to win, when them 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:27.000 billions come to us the creators and float to our 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:31.080 people on the way we wanted to right And we 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.280 don't have enough of that going on now. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.480 But now that we got this awareness, now that we 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:41.120 got understanding, now that we got opportunities like this show, 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:45.000 then we can bless our folks. Ain't growing this thing 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.960 in this money game just like you know they have, 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.760 you know what I mean. And it's next fifty for me. 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:55.679 It's about going back to the same projects I came from. 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.000 Dallas, Dallas ballas. 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:01.560 And making sure that what Dallas for work, making sure 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:07.200 that those babies have an opportunity to win, Bro, because 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:11.160 they're living in them streets right now. 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:12.880 They're living. 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.960 The movies we wrote in our records, but they're not 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.920 living and with honor the way we act. If there's 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:26.400 no honor, then you can't trust nobody. You just out 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.200 there in the wild West again like fuck everything and 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.760 every and we lose them like that. Man, we can't 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.120 lose these boys like that. 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.480 We need them. You know what I mean? What if 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:36.839 Trump do allow I'm just playing. 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:42.560 I don't want to go ahead them sneaks is horrible, horrible. 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.240 All them go. Yeah, that's what he's said. You know 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:46.600 what I man? 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:50.600 So you you want and they and they just somebody 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:55.920 just read somewhere they they just signed the bill uh 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:01.760 in Louisiana that allows them boys eighteen. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.240 Years or you have top to carry your seals. You 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.160 can't even bot a cigarettes eighteen Yeah, man, you can 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:07.640 buy a guy. 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:11.319 What what is the purpose? Who are the people and 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:12.400 why they ain't not on TV? 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.880 Let me see what they look like like because I'm 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.280 not getting the game and that because you already know 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.520 what's gonna happen, right right, You already know what's gonna 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:20.920 happen there. 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.680 If one of these young boys is in school and 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.560 another one of them little boys run past them and 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.840 popping in is out one good time, He's not. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.960 Gonna even square up. He's gonna get up and run 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.240 to the lock up. No, why because the ain't. 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:35.960 Not fighting no more. Bro. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.880 Now you're out of there, and then you lost two 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:43.520 lives or three or four behind buy some ignorant shit. 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:48.600 And so, you know, with all due respect to the 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.600 to the program, I don't want to be you know, 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.080 but yeah, man, it's it's really important to me to 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.080 get out there and make that stance right. I was 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.440 talking to the k R s UH in Dallas just 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:06.320 a week ago. We were sitting there right along the podcast, 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:10.520 you know, in Dallas, me and Ka har Rests. I'm 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.520 doing some work on the podcast, and we would start 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.440 having this conversation like we gotta get out there and 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.760 do what we can to get our young men back 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:18.240 on track. 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.440 There's no, it's not a lot of leaders anymore. We 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:22.160 don't have a lot. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.320 No, we went. We went from the Martin Luther King 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.880 era right to the Frankie Lucas era. 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:30.280 Yeah, to doctor Umar. 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.880 I've seen Omar there for one time. I don't want to. 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:47.760 I don't want to tell nobody me sneak up on you. 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:51.240 They have on beads. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.760 No, but yeah, he was a cool brother, you know. 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:56.680 I don't want to, but. 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:58.840 I think about it, I can't think of Doctor Umar 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.120 flying the White airline. You can tell me he was 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.320 a white I'm disappointed, Doctor, He's supposed to be on 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:19.160 black air waves. So I'm gonna tell you one of 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:22.600 my favorite, well some of my favorite stories of a 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.080 hip hop period is when I hear anybody who was 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:30.840 involved in the chronic talking about those sessions. Now, obviously 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.600 we interview Snoop, we interviewed Dazz and Corrupt, right, and 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.600 Dazz and Corrupt and Snoop came from like a rookie 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.640 point of view where basically they were like and even 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.480 Snoop to a certain extent, but Stop said it was 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:47.320 you and him really pinning most of it. But you, like, 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.640 doctor Dre is different from Snoop and different from Dazz 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:54.120 and Corrupt because you know what these records can get veterans. 0:16:54.280 --> 0:17:00.280 You know, how was those sessions like with you? And 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.960 it wasn't as fun as as as well? 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.240 Yeah, man, that was you know, because I knew what 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.240 was gonna happen, right, and in the early days, I 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:15.080 thought it was gonna be my money too, you know, 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:20.960 But you knew what them boys was doing and if 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:25.920 you fucking with dre Man nine ninety nine, nine point nine, 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:30.280 nine nine, You're gonna win. It's difficult not to win 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:36.280 with with with him doing. But nobody was like Snoop 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:39.919 Snoop was what what what slick Rick was? 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:45.280 Today's Snoop was that for them? Nobody had that, you know, 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:46.239 That's why I was. 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:50.760 It was so apropos that he did lotty dotty because 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:51.720 that's what he was. 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.679 On his first album, was on his first album, and 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:57.159 it made so much sense. It was like perfect, Yeah, 0:17:58.119 --> 0:17:59.040 he was a genius. 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:03.840 I'm gonna I'm not lie from deep Cover. When I 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.199 first heard deep Cover, I knew Snoop was different. I 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.359 knew he was this ship. I just didn't know that 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.920 he would be wound up being the most famous rapper 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.000 on earth. Like I love the Boar where you keep saying, 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:15.720 you say to the kids, you'd be like, y'all know 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:21.800 who DC is, and they're like, uh, he is like 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.640 the most famous rapper. It is like there's no place 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:25.560 on earth Snoop can't go. 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.440 Oh yeah, I mean, Snoop is a he is a 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:33.120 marketing genius. He ain't turning down no checks. He gonna 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:33.679 gonna get it. 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.840 What you said but how did. 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.440 You see that in the beginning, because obviously y'are dealing 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:41.800 with a diamond in the rough, Like it wasn't like 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.679 he came out and was polished. So what was it? 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.399 Dre told you about this thought? And then yeah, and 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.480 you're seeing him on the level as an MC. I'm 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.359 sure at first it's just as an MC. You're like, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:53.359 I can respect this. 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:57.120 Oh yeah, I mean I got to help him, right, 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.639 But Dre heard him. He said, that's the guy. I said, Okay, 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:04.200 that's what we're gonna do, you know, and follow the league, 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:08.440 play my role in this movie. Sit down with him 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.160 and take him through structures. 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.720 And because you told him how to do sixteens. 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.679 Make him money? Well yeah, because he was right. He 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.439 was just wrapped for thirty minutes and shit, and you know, 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:23.399 it's cool. It's cool here, then they get cool again here. 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:25.960 Then now you're just wrapping some ship and then he 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.480 get cool right here. You need to remove all the 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:33.760 ifs and speak to the meat that at work. And 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.600 and he figured that shit out by the time he 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:36.000 got to. 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.680 His record was ship. I couldn't tell him shit. 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.960 You know, he was flying U and I was happy 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:46.520 to be on the ride with him. 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.880 Now, was sure your bodyguard at first? 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:50.439 Yeah? 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:54.520 This is the holl Yeah all right, So you're telling me, 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:55.760 I don't know if you call. 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.240 It a bodyguard because he was taking now you know 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.960 what I mean about, ain't nobody trying to fuck with me? 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:06.080 But sure was was a friend and coming from from 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:12.359 Dallas to uh to California, going from nothing to everything. 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.680 Right, even though you went from Dallas to Confton, he 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:16.879 moved into continent right over. 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.480 But I'm saying, didn't nobody give a fuck who I 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.040 was in Dallas By the time I got to tell, 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.720 everybody thought I was the coldest thing since sliced bread, 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.840 you know, and Sugar started hanging out taking me to 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:33.000 clubs at at twenty years old. You're not supposed to 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:36.000 get in what you get You going in and Eddie 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:39.480 Murphy's over there and Prince's over there. You start filling 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:44.760 that vibe when the record start hitting and then that 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:49.359 alcohol start kicking in. Then that's why you might have 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:52.359 thought he was my bodyguard. I'd go in there to 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.120 be a woman over there, but she would a guy. 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:57.040 But I don't care, you know, I'll go over there 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:57.760 and do. 0:20:57.760 --> 0:20:59.760 Some raunchy shit because they took they said, do you 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:01.720 yourself d o C dropping off cock? 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:09.400 Okay, I shouldn't standing up. 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:11.280 Job. 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:17.439 I'm sorry, but what well. 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:24.120 That's not that's not a thousand, but it's close close enough. 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:26.640 You know, we was, we was getting it in back then. 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.119 But still them boys didn't want to let me play. 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:31.240 You know. 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:36.000 But you said something one time, you said, it's some doors. Ye, 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:43.960 I'm not a door guy. I didn't go to the 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:50.240 door either, because I'm already on that all. If I 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:52.200 go through that door, it's gonna be a whole lot of. 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:57.600 Because I'm not gonna lie to accept none of that. 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:00.160 It's gonna be a proper. 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:02.920 Don't let that again. 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:12.000 You you you Yeah. But one thing again about the documentary, 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:15.119 which is so dope. It's not to only see people 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.959 give you your flowers and give you your praises, but 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:21.520 to see how many people are actually your fans. Like 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:25.080 I've never seen Imminem like be vulnerable like that. I've 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.200 never seen doctor Drake smile like that. Like you can 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:32.040 tell like he really like like you his brother, like 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.640 like it had nothing to do with blood. You can 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:38.160 just tell, like the way he talks about you. Everything 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:41.760 is just like I love I love that people are 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.280 not afraid to give you your flowers. Do you feel that? 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:46.159 Yeah? Bro, I love that. 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.719 I love it. But it's not the type of character 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:50.880 you are, you know what I'm saying. 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.840 But when when one of the things that you see 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:58.040 when you see that that film is exactly what you've never. 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.800 Seen Drake like that, right, I never seen the mother. 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:02.960 Brother's happy, But how did that happen? 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:06.639 And so I know in his heart he's happy because 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:09.520 he can see this guy might be finally getting to 0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:11.959 that stage where he's gonna stand up and take care 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.400 of his business, right you know? So it's that big 0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:18.359 brother shit. But you've seen anything. Even when he started 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:19.560 talking ship, I'm right there. 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:20.680 I love ship. 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:22.320 Hello, and he wanted to he. 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:23.840 Want to play me about that? 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:31.160 Listen, y'all, I haven't watched this on your job? When 0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:32.680 is this dropping? When is this coming? 0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:32.800 No? 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:34.520 What I'm still dealing with. 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:40.120 I'm still dealing with the with the see it now, 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:41.400 you gotta be very careful. 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.000 Okay. 0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:48.520 I'm not a door guy, you know what I mean? 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:51.320 And so I gotta figure out what what rush the door? 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.719 You know what I'm saying, Because it's important. It's an 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:59.080 important film. Not just for me and nigga boing my 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:04.320 I'm I'm West Dallas. Nigga tryna get my bearings back 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:09.760 and and and make this life mean some shit right 0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:11.720 Other than this, nigga can rap her. 0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:12.560 But you know what I mean. 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:16.600 I got a seven year old son and a nine 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.879 year old son, and Jill d waited til I became 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:25.719 a man, m to give me those gifts, cause I 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.120 understand that in order for them to become a man, 0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:29.879 they have to see a man m. 0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:31.199 You know what I mean. 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:34.040 So I have to be a man that means those 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:36.919 things that I those childish things. I gotta let that 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:42.640 shit go. You know, all the the the playing games 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:47.640 for females a well, now all the playing games. 0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:57.560 Not show you know better, you know, being a a 0:24:57.680 --> 0:24:58.399 righteous father. 0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:01.760 And not just for my son, my sons, because it's 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.960 a lot of sons that don't have nothing, you know 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:08.119 what I mean, trying to represent for them where I 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:11.120 come from, because that to me, it's just. 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:12.280 Is just super important. 0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:14.600 When I start trying to do work in the community, 0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:18.080 man and understanding what these young boys is doing out there, 0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:20.320 and I said, will blow your mind. 0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:25.959 Bro, and you wonder how hot the hell? Well what what? 0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:26.800 Like? 0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.480 It's just fucking nuts and what you thinking? 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:33.040 What's going on now? Yeah? Yeah, like even people making disreconds, 0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:38.200 that's actually recons that's kill kill you record. Yeah. I 0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.080 never thought thought it'd be that's that's it. 0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.680 But that's that bullshit. That that's that ego ship. Everybody 0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:47.240 want to be what Saint Jordan's don't. Nobody want to 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.560 be Scotty. Everybody want to be the biggest, baddest, you know, 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:51.359 wolf wolf. 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.040 It's like brainwashedh it to think that this is the 0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:58.600 route to take that, to go public with these crazy things, 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:00.680 doing these things you're talking about, it. 0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:01.480 Gets you popular. 0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:02.480 It's why these. 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:04.399 Boys don't think about where you're gonna be at in 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:07.560 five years. That's what If you ask them that that 0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.960 that'll be the hardest question in they like to answer 0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:13.960 because they don't think that far. They think you can 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:16.359 go out and shoot the motherfucker on Tuesday, and next 0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:21.480 week they'll do shit again. And that's I don't understand 0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:25.760 that once you start playing those games, that that life 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:27.960 is different, man, you know I man, and you might 0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:31.000 not never make it back to these Now I'm giving 0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:37.720 these kids jews from this experience because driving with that 0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:41.240 all in me and reckon out on that freeway, that 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:45.360 shit took almost thirty years from me before I got 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:47.960 back to a space where I can, you know, handle 0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:51.320 some business. You know, but I keep telling you it's 0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:52.359 g O D thing. 0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:55.560 But look at do me a favor though, humor meaning 0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.040 let's take it back, because I want I want to 0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.760 get into the meat and potato of how you got 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:05.360 to hear go back to Texas, feel a fresh crew 0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.879 is starting? How do you how does that connect to 0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.399 Ruthless Records? How does how do you become an m C? 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.560 How does that connect to Ruthless Records? 0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:15.159 Because I've seen an interview with Easy said he was 0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.520 part of a rack crew. I was like, damn, bro, 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:22.560 that's how he ad. That's just he was talking about. 0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:27.800 Okay, okay, and we went we weren't the best. 0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:32.159 He was hard like that. 0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:39.520 But uh yeah, So the DJ that group was dude 0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:42.639 that was on the radio. He used to be in 0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:45.880 the in the same DJ crew that Drake came. 0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:48.840 From Working crew. Yeah, really okay, when. 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:52.119 It was just DJs Florida before they. 0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:56.359 Started, when there was wearing the shiny Jackets Jackets. They 0:27:56.359 --> 0:28:00.040 didn't make it till that level because that was and 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:01.600 they was good already. 0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.720 So when he made it to Dallas, he had a 0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.240 lot of their underground records, and he made their underground 0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.720 music god in Dalla Dallas. And then when they visited Dallas, 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.400 dre heard me. He was like, bro, you just shit. 0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:19.520 If you was in La we'll be rich. And I 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:20.800 was like, shit, let's. 0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:21.879 Let's steal it. 0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.000 Let's go get the guys judging your musical for the 0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:27.160 FEEDO crew. Yeah, okay, continue, but he's singling you out 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:27.920 and the crew. 0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.359 Yeah, because when I said let's go get the other guys, 0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:31.800 he was like, nah, I ain't talking about. 0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:35.160 That because you wouldn't because it just feel the fresh 0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:35.680 crew in here. 0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:39.800 But but I was like, nah, I came. I mean, now, hey, 0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:43.080 hell no, I can't just go to California. 0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:43.840 They gonna lay my. 0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:46.920 Because I think that partner's interested about that is you 0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.480 not only moved to California, but you moved to Compton, 0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.040 which you said, I believe you described it as a 0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:56.080 beautiful place in the daytime, but nighttime all home. 0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.240 But that's how early in the development of Ruthless that 0:28:58.280 --> 0:28:59.920 you moved in like basically with them. 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.440 Oh yeah, oh yeah, it was a It was a 0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.560 motherfucker because I'm not a bro. 0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.760 I'm not a thug dude, That's never been my I'm 0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:12.040 a writer. I'm an artist for real, man. Yeah, I 0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.840 love and breed to be good at that, you know 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.480 what I mean. And so when I went out there 0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.120 and them boys started, you know, I'm gonna do what 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:23.120 I can to help y'all. I knew that you're never 0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.960 gonna be able to get where you can. You're never 0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:27.640 gonna be able to be all that you can be 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.320 unless you can get this stuff that you're doing on 0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:33.800 the radio. So I can write the kind of songs 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.360 fright Eric that are funny. 0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:37.960 And be easy for people who don't know. 0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:43.560 That are that are funny and entertaining that won't scare 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:44.240 white folks. 0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:48.080 You know, they're they'll laugh. I wanna. And so that's 0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:49.040 that was my job. 0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.120 So you came up with kind of making him a 0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:54.280 character in a child because you you easy does it? 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.360 Yeah? No, easy does it? Yeah? Easy does it? 0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:59.280 And the playful rhymes, the way he played loud. 0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:02.800 Okay, I do a motherfucking walk by, you know, just 0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:06.640 funny ship in a way that the gang uh street 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:10.400 guys were respected and Easy could carry it because he's 0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:14.360 not faking he Oh yeah, oh, he's one thousand percent. 0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:16.480 I never got to me Easy, and I never got 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:17.080 to be Tupac. 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:19.440 Tupac was a real one too. 0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.800 Oh yeah, sh you never got that close, real. 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:23.520 Real ship talker. 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:27.360 He talked ship to me all the time, but he 0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:29.920 waited till I had the wreck and start stalking that ship. 0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.200 He first time I met him, he was he was 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:40.680 still dancing for uh Underground right he was in He 0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.160 was in a limo, and then then we rode from 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.920 the limo to the I was performing with those guys. 0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:49.720 My single just came out, performing in Kansas City or somewhere. 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.440 We rode in the limo. Got never said two words 0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:56.800 to me. You know. Now, fast forward after my wreck 0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:57.480 thing happened. 0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:04.120 He and mc breed we're really good friends and uh 0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:08.080 direct didn't happened to chronicle all the uh that stuff 0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.920 has happened, and we in at Atlanta. I think this 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.560 is when he around the time he getting into it 0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.920 with the police and tearing up Itchy bond over Breed 0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:21.120 all of that stuff and he, uh, I'm at Brede's 0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:24.560 house and he flies in died for some brother man. 0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.720 They finally ran your ass. I forgot that. I didn't 0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:31.480 like that. That made me mad, you know. Yeah it's true, 0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.640 you know, Uh, but Nigga not in him good? Uh 0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.720 but no he was Uh, he was a little ship talking. 0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.680 But he had a he had a heart of gold, 0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:43.240 you know, and a solid brother. 0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:51.920 And and I have similarities in that seminis. Yeah, and 0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:56.360 now we're we're great writers and thinkers and good good 0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.440 on the inside and shouldn't And it was in that 0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:03.160 space what we shouldn't have been, right, you know, those 0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:05.320 aren't our people. We shouldn't have been in the middle of. 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:09.160 That, right now, do you do there's there's there's something 0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.880 found what he just said. No, I know that there's 0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:16.040 something that I wanted to reiterated. Think about the No 0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:19.920 Bazanline record. Rice Scool comes out with this record. 0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:19.920 The. 0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.720 Greatest inside of it. 0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:30.720 At that point, yeah, well, did you feel like I 0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:32.000 gotta go petitive this back? 0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:33.640 I was like ni. 0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.280 Because it never n w A never did a full 0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.520 dis It was only just some shots in some songs. 0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.960 But but but Benedict Donald, I think was the one. 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.400 But did. Did anybody from the crew get mad at you? 0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:51.120 Like why he ain't say your name? Another one? 0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:51.960 Because there was. 0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.720 Because every everybody if this drink chest and they don't 0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:58.520 this e f N. I think you got something going on. 0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:05.600 I think you knew because he had come to the 0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:09.400 hospital and seeing oh wow wow, he knew it'd be 0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:12.200 like trying to beat up a handicapped kid at that point, 0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:15.000 so he just told their ass other than I. But 0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.280 I was so happy about that because he hate. 0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:22.320 Breakfast, you know, the greatest record his. 0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:26.360 Music from the first line the last. You don't let 0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:27.200 up on none of them. 0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.640 But this is a famous argument that we had on 0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:33.920 drink chefs. Well, he famously had man, we're gonna bring 0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.200 it up here. Yes, he famously had it. And this 0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.800 ice cube or Biggie Smalls. That wasn't the way it 0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:44.160 started to I hate Did you hear about this argument? 0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:47.520 What did you think of this argument? Well, if I'm 0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.400 being honest, you have to be pleased. 0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:55.680 That's a hard one, bro, because they are too the 0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:59.240 greatest storytellers ever, but they're telling. 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.040 Him in different ways, in different ways. 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.000 And see I'm a MC and so the white Big 0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:13.120 Swing is me in a competition. I can compete with 0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.760 that the ship that you'll be doing, I can't compete 0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.080 with that ship because he's doing it in a way 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:22.760 that that's unfamiliar to me. And it's always that furnst 0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:27.920 line and in any of the songs where he added 0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.480 it's the first time you know on yeah, you know 0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.680 he's gonna tell your ass up from that first goddamn line. 0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:38.000 God damn, I'm glad y'all said it. I'll say, you 0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:38.960 already know some shit. 0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:44.520 I gonna lie. I think that was the quietest I've 0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:46.960 ever been in Drink Champ's history, because I had no opinion. 0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.640 I just left them again to set the record strat. 0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:51.959 It wasn't what you're saying. He just asked me. Tony 0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:55.280 asked me who was my favorite? I said it Cube 0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:58.200 was always my favorite. And then he just took offense 0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.880 to Q being my favorite and then throw Biggie. And 0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:02.160 then that's when we started going back. 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:06.560 Because I understand both arguments. I clearly understand both arguments. 0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.839 Like if you're from East Coast, when Biggie came out, 0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:13.560 there is very few moments other than when Eddie Murphy 0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:18.759 came out that it was just a Chris due Locke like, 0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:23.560 and we literally couldn't hear nothing else but Biggie on 0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:27.000 the New York side, including anybody into hip hop. This 0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:30.120 is anything else but Biggie. But I was too young 0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:35.080 to actually fill the first version of ice Cube Wave. 0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:38.080 So that's the reason why I was like, I was 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.480 a diehard fan. Listen, I'm gonna tell you something. 0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:45.040 Before I met West Coast hip hop, I was scared 0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.919 of all West Coast artists because y'all described the shit. 0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:51.840 I thought Compton was a jail straight out of Compton. 0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:53.520 I was like, wait a minute. I was like, I 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.799 don't want to be locked up here. Like I was like, yo, 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:59.480 what the fuck? But because it was so different from 0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.560 the East Coast that when you described it, it was 0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:06.560 like Holy ship. Like when just just hearing the description of. 0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:08.759 West Coast, they changed hip hop the way that they 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.719 came out and conveyed that emotion that hadn't been done 0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:14.680 in hip hop's in my opinion, and just going back 0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.319 to the ice Cube thing, my favorite groups of the 0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.360 time were n w A and Public Enemy. When Q 0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.359 belize and it's with the Bomb Squad that's it. It's 0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:25.480 solidified for me, who my favorite MC at that time was. 0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.879 Right, there's a lot of synergy between Yeah. 0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:31.600 To me, it's the same opposite side to respect. 0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:31.719 That's right. 0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:33.400 And they had the same energy. 0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:38.120 Dre and I every single morning on the way to 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.680 the studio listened to her. It takes a nation. 0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:45.960 Every get me. Wow. Wow, that's that's that's that's great. 0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:50.520 It was that same energy from from their perspective. That's 0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.799 why I had that. And it was supposed to go 0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:56.560 that way. But the machine, the door guys. 0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.560 The fucking door guy store guys got it. 0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.080 And said we can do it like this and it'll 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.719 do that, and we bought that shitty Crush Groove is 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:12.120 my favorite movie of all time. Right, it's when Galaxy 0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:15.520 Records came. Galaxy Records all mofucker. 0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:22.320 Man. I wanted to beat ship out there, whoever the 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.960 guy was that played Galaxy Records in the movie, because 0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:31.520 he still run away from Russell in the movie. And 0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:33.080 that's what the game got shitted on. 0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:36.840 Man. You know, I heard you say in the interview 0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:41.880 as well. He said Easy and Sugar went through the 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:48.360 same thing, and I thought that was so deep because 0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:53.880 I don't think I think Easy, I think Sugar. Example, 0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:58.680 was easy to the fact that if what you're saying 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:02.320 is true, that means that Shure didn't learn from Easy. 0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:11.759 He took easies as like whatever. But most street those 0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:13.960 are the two street gangsters that I knew, you know, 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:16.560 in the industry. I mean not no, like no. But 0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.600 what I'm saying is I knew about. 0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:22.000 Easy was that was a powerful thing, like what y'all 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:22.440 was doing. 0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:26.919 And then death Row. I had never seen that neither 0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.000 you to be a part of both fucking movements. The 0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:33.000 world hadn't seen what de Throw created. The world didn't 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:36.840 see what n w A created, but you can you 0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:41.160 can see the environment that the music was created death Row. 0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:45.080 I had never seen so much power at one point. 0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:47.919 At one point, I remember meeting me going to meet 0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.000 Leo Cohens one time through the guard. He was in 0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:55.720 Vegas and Leo cohmes, he meets me and he goes, 0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:57.719 I just set. 0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:01.120 Fro guice really like, you know, because I'm on my 0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:03.839 own dick at the time. I'm like, wait, death Row guys, 0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:09.440 so whatever. Every one of them had a presidential and 0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:14.160 I was just like, at the time, I didn't know 0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:17.280 what that shit meant, but I knew what he was saying. 0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:20.879 He was like, no, normal, you don't understand. It's most 0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:24.479 of the time it's one Rowlex or it's one He's 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:28.360 like every fucking person walking with death Row had a 0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:32.960 new fucking Rolex. He said, he ran out the way. 0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:34.719 This is what you think because he wanted that for 0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:38.399 every death Jam artist. Is that what I believe he did. 0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:40.440 I believe he didn't want that, and I believe that 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.120 that was the first time you see like black power. 0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:45.680 Like I don't know if it was abused because I 0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:51.400 wasn't privileged to be around that much. But I remember that, 0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:54.040 and I remember and this is not no racial thing, 0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:56.359 but I remember, this is the most powerful white man 0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:59.919 in the industry. And he looked at me like, joh, 0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:04.120 let's not go downstairs right now, like the death real 0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:05.720 guys just walked by. 0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.239 I was like, what, no, no, bro, he was a 0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:12.720 small guy to get that ship. 0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.520 A little bit and maybe a young dumb full of 0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:22.680 come from the hood. I'm not even respecting it. But boy, 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.520 but I had no winds. I did not know that. 0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:27.120 But what I'm saying is. 0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.440 Some of the things that I have seen, right, my brother, 0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:31.799 what So. 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:33.200 What I'm saying is because this is what I want 0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:34.759 to ask. We got to get it. You got to 0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.239 see you got to see easy one of the most 0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:41.120 powerful black street guys. It's very important for us to say, 0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:44.320 you know, street not because of maybe not the education, 0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.680 but for where he came from. Here, because it's possible 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.080 that a street guy right now can do it and 0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:49.560 do it right. 0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:50.120 That's right. 0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:53.600 Then you got Shug who actually kind of wasn't a 0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:57.080 street guy. It was a college guy that actually got 0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.920 some street education and from the streets wore up right 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:03.040 two different opposites and ended up the same exact work. 0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.440 You know what, bro, you just added a level to 0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:08.000 it to that I hadn't even thought of a right 0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.120 and and that's the hell of a point, you know, 0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:16.640 because I don't know shoes DNA, I don't know his 0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.960 story real I hear it the same way that other 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:20.440 both do. 0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:29.480 I know that he's a thrill and twenty five dog 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:30.120 out there. 0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:30.799 You know that. 0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:34.520 You know, Yeah, he's not mad, he's not scared. He's 0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:36.120 gonna make it, do what to do. 0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:41.239 But I don't want no point from none of that ship, 0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:43.279 you know, unless I'm loaded, and. 0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:47.680 Then let's go get it. But the difference between he 0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:48.239 and Eric. 0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:53.680 That's easy bigger itself up from heaven right now? Yeah? Yeah, 0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:55.520 call me Easy, I call me Eric. 0:41:55.520 --> 0:42:00.960 Do you see difference between easy and it? 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:01.400 Sure? 0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:11.279 Sure Easy was quiet, but just as powerful. Sure was 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:15.600 flashy with his power. He wanted you to know it, 0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:19.960 but Eric wouldn't. Didn't want you to unless you had 0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:22.719 to know it. But you know he was because he 0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:24.600 was getting it and you gotta show it. 0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:26.759 Off because he didn't want to even wrap originally. Right. 0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:27.359 Is that true? 0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:28.880 Well, that's what they said, because. 0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.279 That's what That's what I've heard a bunch of times. 0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:32.280 They was like clowning them to get into the booth. 0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:34.759 He didn't have any rap skills at all. 0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:41.520 I love that. His rhythm was horrible, but he had charisma. 0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:46.080 Character. That's right, that voice and that it that you 0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.279 gotta have to be a and authenticity. 0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:49.759 That's right or what he was talking about. 0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:50.319 That's right. 0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:53.160 Because one line he said, ice Cube writes the romes down. 0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:56.799 I didn't know how hard that line was, so I 0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:58.759 got older. I was like, he said, you. 0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:03.400 Said, I had no idea he was gonna say that. 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:05.719 I really want to say, I'm not gonna fake it 0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:06.240 on the record. 0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:09.120 I'm gonna tell you exactly what's going on, right, And 0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:12.200 you know what, it's crazy. I don't think there's no 0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.520 one in this world that don't look at Easy as 0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:18.840 over see. I know everyone listen, he told that to 0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.040 our face. He didn't he wasn't behind the back. 0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.759 And they arguing about all of these guys and the 0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:28.560 trade something of these kind of that where he can't 0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:33.240 be this because they all love it easiest the one, 0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:36.440 you know. But that's that's the nature of this. That's 0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.320 why I try never to get into those those colors 0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:44.200 conversations because you notice this game, nor yet the artists. 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:49.040 We stand on the shoulders and those that came before us, nobody. 0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.560 You can't be those that came after me. You can't 0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:57.959 be the greatest without me, So we the greatest someone. 0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:00.640 It's a collective, it's a colue over the hell you 0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:04.399 are true, But hold up you saying and I want 0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:06.239 to clarify because you said that they ended up in 0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:07.439 the same place, Sugar and Easy. 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:09.439 What do you mean by that? Because he pretty much 0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:11.600 like you know, came to power and then you know, 0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:13.480 lost their power. That's what Because we really don't know 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.879 what would have happened with easy had he survived. That's true. 0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:25.200 See doctor Dre was the keeting everything, so. 0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:29.840 You think that's it. Once Dre left, what happened? You 0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:32.200 don't think they would have ever amended their their problem. 0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:36.600 Yeah, I think they did. Talks about seeing easy in 0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:38.520 New York at the club. I think I think even 0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:40.920 even in the movie, didn't they say that Dre him 0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:41.719 at the hospital. 0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:43.840 Orth Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that they would have figured 0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:46.120 they started out, yeah at the end of the day, 0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:48.440 but but now business is vass Or is different. 0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:50.400 You can't go back to that. 0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:53.640 So you're saying it could have been another record besides 0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:57.719 Grand Finale. I would have loved this too. 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:00.440 Then we can't forget Ren and a part of that 0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.200 equation such an incredible as well. 0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.520 You know what, I wanted to see easy E with 0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:10.040 a Twitter, easy E on Instagram. He might not a 0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.839 humor social media Nah, I think he would. I think 0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.839 I think he would have been I think I think 0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:17.080 he would have decision. 0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:17.600 He didn't have made a dollar. 0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:23.759 And I notice is kind of a cliche to say 0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:28.360 right now, right because most people when they're making history, 0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.359 they kind of don't know they're making history or sometimes 0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:33.759 it's kind of like you do you do know it 0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:37.200 from the n WA days, Did you know you was 0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:40.560 a part of the most iconic group that thirty five 0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:44.840 years later, people is still the same exact way it's like, 0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.600 and people are still saying the same exact message. It's 0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:52.479 still fuck the police thirty five years later. 0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:59.600 I knew, we didn't know. I knew, bro, I knew. See. 0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:03.640 Most think the gift is in my pen, but it's 0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:04.400 in my ears. 0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:10.880 Oh, same as d thinks it's in its production. And 0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:14.000 it's engineering. That's what the that's what the magic is. 0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:18.000 So anybody, anybody can make a head record. 0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:25.040 Anybody can we know, consistent making great ship, consistent quality. Yeah, 0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:28.520 you have to have quality control. And that's hard for 0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:31.480 niggas that don't give a fuck about quality. They just 0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:32.640 give a fuck about. 0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:35.960 Making sure that you don't disrespect them or they look 0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:39.200 a certain way, or it's the stuff they talking about. 0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:42.879 But Dre is an animal when it when it comes 0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:46.879 to quality control. But those aren't rumors when they say 0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:51.279 you'll be in there behind that microphone, not hours on 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:57.200 a word on a word he said. Now, when I 0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:59.520 put the script on his ass and got him in. 0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:04.920 There that you don't like that, But. 0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:07.600 He taught me that you. 0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:09.000 Probably the only one who could do that to him. 0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:12.759 Though I think he don't like it, that's good, that's great. 0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:13.640 He does not like it. 0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:15.399 I bet you the vocals come out good. That's right, 0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:17.040 that's what we want. 0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:23.480 And uh uh, but I've seen them boys grow into 0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:30.920 great iconic figures and I'm I'm extremely blessed that I 0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:34.640 call them guys and my brothers right and to have 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:40.359 been on that journey with them man and go through 0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:43.759 that learning process. But but ship, I'm ready for mine now. 0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:48.640 You know, I love my guys, but I'm trying. I'm 0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:51.880 trying to make some new dealc ship starting with that 0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:56.200 film right then going into these communities with these schools 0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:57.840 and these programs. 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:00.120 Then more mut. 0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:07.319 Music, whether I had an operation M or just use 0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:14.239 this AI opportunity. You know, I haven't figured that out yet. 0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:19.480 AI opportunity saying like use the AI for little bit 0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:23.040 his penant. He'll he could even say if lady was 0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:24.440 trying to do that, Yeah, I heard that too. 0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:27.120 I think cigarettes out to me about that. Yeah yeah, 0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:31.160 and uh, you know, everybody feel this way. 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:34.239 They feel that way, but it's not possible for me 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:37.960 unless I get those masters back. So when the lady 0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:40.920 called and said she was interested in giving me my 0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.360 master's back, it seemed like a g O. 0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:44.000 D thing. 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:47.839 Okay, you ain't gotta go get cut on it. If 0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:50.000 you you want it back that bad, I'll give it 0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.319 to you. You know, trying to tell me that this 0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:53.600 voice is important. 0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:57.080 You need to keep this one because when you talk now, 0:48:57.160 --> 0:49:00.640 motherfuckers are doing this trying to what the fuck you 0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:03.360 gotta say. And so I'm gonna take it advantage of 0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:06.719 that that opportunity and and do the right thing with it. 0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:17.399 But artistically, it's much more important for me to see 0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:19.719 if I could do in Dallas for what I did, 0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:23.160 and Dallas for worth of what what I helped do 0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:26.560 in l A. That's where I'm at with it. 0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:27.680 It's a legacy thing for you. 0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:29.680 Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean. 0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:37.480 I ain't got the money yet, but uh, I got 0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:40.919 my mind back. I mean, that's the most important thing. 0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:43.160 I don't you know, I don't consume. 0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:44.760 Uh. 0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:49.520 I try to stay away from all things for that now. 0:49:49.640 --> 0:50:00.400 Now will smoke a little bit, which I will smoke it, uh, 0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:03.440 but you know, I lead other stuff along because it's 0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:07.839 a detriment to me and other folks that have struggled 0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:11.759 with that stuff. I try to, uh, you know, be 0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.799 responsible enough to be a light for other people that 0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:17.879 might be going through that same ship that I had 0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.400 to go through, because it's not gonna help you, you 0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:20.759 know what I mean. 0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:23.279 If you're run him from some ship trying to. 0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:26.640 Find it in a bottle or in them pills or 0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:31.960 or that that that that yeah yo, or whatever you're fucking. 0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:33.839 With, just be honest a poison. 0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:34.759 I in love what. 0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:40.399 You know, whatever you're doing it, you're only gonna get 0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:43.480 past about by by facing your demon right whatever. 0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:47.359 That is. Another one, let's talk about Future Shock right. 0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:49.719 That was the name of the label before Death Row 0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:52.279 Right and then and at that time when it was 0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:55.719 called Future Shot, I believe it was you, Dre and 0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:57.760 Shock as partners. 0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:01.080 It was me and Dre's company on the thirty five 0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:07.160 percent apiece. Okay, uh, there was h thirty percent left 0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:11.320 and Sugar and Dick Griffy where that where to split. 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:14.960 That that that Harry came after that, yeah, okay, so 0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:17.680 so Sugar Dick Griffy took the other half. 0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:18.520 Yeah. 0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:22.879 Well, by the time Ireo came Sugar and Drake took 0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:26.239 it a haul, and and and when they did their 0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.480 business with uh, with Jimmy. 0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:31.440 With Jimmy, and what was your relationship with Jimmy. He's 0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:33.080 the only one I didn't see it in the documentary. 0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:36.480 I think Jimmy is a great guy. He's been He's 0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:43.880 been a real positive uh influence on Dre right and 0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:46.680 helping him get to where he is today. Right they 0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:50.120 made He's helped my my guy make big as the dollars, right. 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:52.880 And so I can't get anybody a lot for Jimmy, 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:53.440 you know. 0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:54.920 Uh. 0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:58.840 And i'ma I'm gonna stick. I'm gonna stick with that story. 0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:01.000 I kind of I kind of felt like Jimmy was 0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:09.960 special when when Dre left right and it was said 0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:12.600 because I mean, obviously I'm not in the business like that, 0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:15.120 it was said that he left millions behind, like when 0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:17.560 he left death Row, he left millions behind, but he 0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:22.719 chose to leave, but he chose to stick with Jimmy's right. 0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:26.040 I knew that they had a special type of relationship. 0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:31.160 I knew that Jimmy had to make whatever it was 0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:34.239 with sug right, but he had to make sure that 0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:37.000 he made sure his golden chob was right, and I 0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:41.200 remember it was an aftermath project and then it was 0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:42.840 a Firm project, which I was a part of. I 0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:44.360 was a part of the Firm project was one of 0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:47.520 one of the most successful records on the Firm projects. 0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:49.680 You can look it up. You can look it up. 0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:54.480 I remember, I remember, like I mean, recording with Dre 0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:55.960 at that time, and you know, he was recorded with 0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:59.320 a bunch of East Coast guys nas A Z. Kimmels around. 0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:00.359 No. 0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:02.840 I believe, no, I don't think he was around that, 0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:07.840 and I believe it was like Dre's like like I 0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:10.520 don't want to call it purgatory, but it's like somewhere 0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:13.720 where like you know, it wasn't he wasn't. He wasn't. 0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:15.960 He was getting it together still. It's getting together still. 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:19.680 And I just remember him sticking with Jimmy, and I 0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:23.720 remember there's something special about that relationship. There's something because 0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:30.120 most people, like with the strict situation, he would have blamed. 0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:31.840 Most people were blamed Jimmy as well. 0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:34.200 Because he wasn't in business with both of them at 0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:36.120 the same time, but both of them. 0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:38.600 But the fact that Drake didn't and it was like 0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:41.200 I'm gonna move on, but I'm gonna move on with you. 0:53:41.600 --> 0:53:43.719 I knew that Jimmy was bro. 0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:45.880 It ain't want to see you know, and you know 0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:49.360 what was going on in that But sure that created 0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:56.480 this world, but he controlled it. Dude said, content is 0:53:56.600 --> 0:54:00.400 like prison, and really going to that studio every day 0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:02.719 it was being like being on the yard. You know 0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:06.719 you bro, it was it was rough. They was in 0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:10.240 there looking like they was ready to bench press eight 0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:12.000 thousand pounds. 0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:16.359 And ready to just do whatever going on. 0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:20.000 Because I know this blood. I mean remember the Warren 0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:23.200 g story alone. I don't remember you ever seeing you 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:26.919 wear rat at all. Look like you, brother, I don't 0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:28.399 remember you ever seeing you wear rat. 0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:32.799 Oh yeah, I wear red. Oh you know, Mom'm just 0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:35.759 a gu'ma I'm a good nigga. Ray I can go. 0:54:35.960 --> 0:54:39.400 I can go anywhere. Yes, I go to I go 0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:42.560 to content. If I'm in, if I'm on one side, 0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:45.560 they call me d oc. If I'm on the other side, 0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:58.160 they call me d o B. I answered, everybody, it's 0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:03.120 all good because I never going to I never understood that. 0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:04.799 That uh, the politics and. 0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:07.320 Mentality the way the way they did. I was raised 0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:09.080 in Dallas, Texas, man we. 0:55:09.040 --> 0:55:09.800 Did in the projects. 0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:12.200 Yeah, we didn't get out like that, right, you. 0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:13.600 Know we was in gang banging going on. 0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:16.319 Well, when I left, there wasn't banging. 0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:18.719 Right until I came back. Yeah, or when I came 0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:19.840 blood and gripping. 0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:24.560 I mean, listen to the ice cue Summer vacation, right. Oh, 0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:26.640 I always saying this shod the movie of that doll 0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:27.400 explain everything. 0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:33.120 I left Dallas in eighty seven, eighty eight. When I 0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:36.239 came back with a finished record in eighty nine, when 0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:41.239 I left, it looked like everybody looked like Hudiny. When 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:44.600 I came back, everybody looked like Easy, the whole. 0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:45.560 Fucking city era. 0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:50.000 It was like a cultural shock and shit, I was like, 0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:51.200 what the fuck did happened? 0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:53.040 Like these people haven't changed with me. You were to 0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:54.239 call and they went to Collon too. 0:55:54.800 --> 0:55:56.759 I came back. I thought I was messing with They 0:55:56.840 --> 0:55:59.319 all looked like me, and. 0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:02.320 We was all trying to look like Eric Easy. 0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:05.919 But what but what you what you said earlier today, 0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:11.880 uh about that time period is exactly correct, right, that 0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:17.280 hip hop is still in that same spot, and Easy 0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:23.399 is still the prototype for every hip hop commercially successful 0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:24.960 artist that's in the game. 0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:27.640 Ninety nine point nine percent of them today. 0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:31.240 Right. I mean if you listen to what you guys 0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:34.400 was waiting for Easy and you listen to Trill, your 0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:35.360 other father of it. 0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:42.520 Yeah, listen to Trill music now Cbe was no, No, 0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:43.600 you gotta take that part too. 0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:47.719 No, I tell you that you gotta take that part 0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:48.680 to Cube was. 0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:52.560 The spirit but in w A that's why it had 0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:54.399 a revolutionary. 0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:59.080 Right on Cube lift Easy. 0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:02.319 Is just a thug just want to talk about murder, death, guil. 0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:06.319 They don't give a fuck who dies, And so that's 0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:09.840 wh it turned into that and that's what the world 0:57:09.920 --> 0:57:11.120 was built up off of. 0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:13.760 And at least as far the music is concerned. 0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:15.840 But I mean had a little revolutionary site. It was 0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:17.960 just he was way more hardcore about. 0:57:17.680 --> 0:57:26.000 It, right, But Cube was que led led those guys 0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:29.640 musically artistically. Yeah, you know what I mean? 0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:33.880 When when when he rolled and we followed the pathy 0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:38.000 when he left, you know, everybody's just talking about, like 0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:41.560 I said, murder, death, guil uh rn and started doing 0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:49.520 uh it's more revolutionary stuff that he did his record 0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:51.960 and then he could lead this because he was following error. 0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:55.240 He was following the Easies lead after Cube left. 0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:58.760 You know, you know what's crazy people say that since 0:57:58.800 --> 0:58:01.400 then that was that's probably like the West the last 0:58:01.440 --> 0:58:05.080 West Coast on West Coast Beat. 0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:05.560 Or l A. 0:58:06.760 --> 0:58:11.640 Yeah, I mean you're game and rast cast but other 0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:13.320 than ice. 0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:17.840 Cube Verse and and it got got pretty serious with 0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:20.439 the Lynch Mob and and with n w A. 0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:24.840 Yeah, it got pretty serious to step in, right, I 0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:25.400 don't remember. 0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:28.240 I think farrakhn was a part. 0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:30.880 Of q Cormon and yeah he got involved in that one, yep. 0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:37.240 But but it may have been the hostile on records, 0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:40.600 but it never made it streets, Yeah, never made it 0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:45.080 very far. Chase Dreve wasn't trying to and I don't 0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:47.160 think easy was it was. 0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:50.160 You know, he was still winning, right, you know, he 0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:53.160 had found the bone guys, right, so he was back 0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:56.880 in the game, mh. And we was just trying to 0:58:56.880 --> 0:59:00.640 figure out how we going in where the you go now? 0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:05.400 Because Cravers, I don't want to say afraid he didn't 0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:07.880 know what he was gonna do. You know, he didn't 0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:10.440 want to do a record. He didn't like his voice, 0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:12.880 you don't like how he sounds. He doesn't think he 0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:17.240 could carry up a solo record, like yes, you can. 0:59:17.520 --> 0:59:18.640 Just want to be behind the boards. 0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:22.120 Yeah, but no, bro, you all we. 0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:23.920 Got his name was too big. 0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:26.840 He was the one and don't worry about it. I'm 0:59:26.840 --> 0:59:28.480 gonna be right here and we don't want to woo. 0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:33.120 But he didn't feel it. But when Snoop came and 0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:37.959 uh one, she played a demo which Snoop Yeah. 0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:40.720 Two three, that's warm and g Snoop and. 0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:46.200 Yeah played at a bachelor party for somebody that's crazy, 0:59:46.360 --> 0:59:50.240 and and the bachelor party loved Snoop. Snoop came to 0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:53.959 the studio the next day or two and and. 0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:56.800 That was it. You know, it was on after that 0:59:57.560 --> 0:59:58.880 and they he moved. 0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:04.040 Snoop moved from Long Beach into my house in the 1:00:04.120 --> 1:00:08.880 valley and we did that for about six months. Then 1:00:08.960 --> 1:00:11.880 I got kicked out and we all moved into drad 1:00:17.440 --> 1:00:21.080 But that's how he got made. But we be in 1:00:21.080 --> 1:00:24.480 that small and dank and somebody will say something and 1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:25.720 then we'll be back at it. 1:00:26.280 --> 1:00:28.959 You know, it was beautiful. It was beautiful times because 1:00:28.960 --> 1:00:31.480 it was just a close knit group of friends. 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:33.960 I can't lie to you when I look at the footage. 1:00:34.000 --> 1:00:37.080 Are y'all making the chronic and y'all just in the 1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:40.320 studio and Dre hitting the pianos and y'all just sitting 1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:43.240 there bullshitting like I just wanted to be a fucking 1:00:43.240 --> 1:00:47.320 fly on the wall, bro Like, because again, I just 1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:49.600 asked you this question earlier. Did you know he was 1:00:49.840 --> 1:00:52.040 making history? He said, you kind of did. 1:00:52.160 --> 1:00:54.680 Oh, yeah, you had to know him because already what 1:00:54.720 --> 1:00:55.880 you're accomplished of that. 1:00:56.360 --> 1:00:58.720 Even if that's the case, you might have known you 1:00:58.800 --> 1:01:03.560 making history and you don't know the grad video is 1:01:03.640 --> 1:01:07.760 because I mean, you know how it's gonna impact where 1:01:07.760 --> 1:01:08.320 it's gonna go. 1:01:08.840 --> 1:01:12.200 Well, when you made the chronic you heard just like 1:01:12.320 --> 1:01:12.840 you heard it. 1:01:13.520 --> 1:01:23.400 I heard it. Imagine that the studio you already know 1:01:23.520 --> 1:01:24.080 what it was. 1:01:24.720 --> 1:01:30.680 And you went from she Thinks to little Ghetto Boy 1:01:31.000 --> 1:01:34.720 to raditat Tide and all of these. He was like, Oh, 1:01:34.760 --> 1:01:37.720 he's finna kill these mother and then Snoop is gonna 1:01:37.760 --> 1:01:43.320 be matter of fact, one Deep Covered drop. Yeah, he 1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:45.160 was like, oh man, this shit is over with this 1:01:45.320 --> 1:01:50.360 nigga's mylan and Dre the video to Deep Covered Trade 1:01:50.360 --> 1:01:52.440 didn't even want to do the video. I had to 1:01:52.440 --> 1:01:54.560 trick him to get up in. 1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:55.880 The show and say just give him a. 1:01:57.640 --> 1:01:57.800 Man. 1:01:58.080 --> 1:02:00.560 He was salted at the mother bird because he didn't 1:02:00.560 --> 1:02:02.760 want to do the video. By the time you got 1:02:02.800 --> 1:02:05.160 your ass up there, you lake the back out. 1:02:05.240 --> 1:02:06.800 Now you can kind of see it in his face 1:02:06.840 --> 1:02:09.640 I think in the video. 1:02:08.560 --> 1:02:10.360 Damn, like he's bitter. 1:02:11.440 --> 1:02:14.600 He was bist want to be there. You had to 1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:15.160 get him now. 1:02:15.440 --> 1:02:19.520 But that record single handedly was like they set off 1:02:19.520 --> 1:02:23.120 that whole movement, and it was crazy because it's who 1:02:23.440 --> 1:02:26.760 is Dre. Everybody knows Dre, and it's this brand new 1:02:26.840 --> 1:02:29.560 artist being put out there equally with Dre. So that's 1:02:29.560 --> 1:02:30.800 what makes a crazy impact. 1:02:30.800 --> 1:02:34.080 Everyone's scared to death if you if you look at that, 1:02:34.440 --> 1:02:40.080 that video so bad as a problem connecting with the camera, 1:02:40.200 --> 1:02:42.880 the camera because he doesn't know yet. 1:02:43.000 --> 1:02:45.280 All street people, well, let me tell you something. If 1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:47.320 you from the streets, if you look at anybody that's 1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:50.200 from the streets, you cannot look at the camera direct 1:02:50.200 --> 1:02:52.400 because we were taught not to be in front of 1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:54.360 the cameras, and then we go from not to be 1:02:54.400 --> 1:02:57.360 in front of the cameras to saying, hey, oh so 1:02:58.040 --> 1:03:00.760 you're always the most awkward in your first year. So said, 1:03:00.760 --> 1:03:03.120 I didn't know that. Continue the g Thang video. 1:03:03.320 --> 1:03:06.400 You see it the deep cover video. You see it, 1:03:07.040 --> 1:03:09.800 but now you're seeing you know what I mean. But 1:03:10.640 --> 1:03:14.160 he's got he's on him. He's making shrimps with Martha. 1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:17.000 Now you know what I'm saying. 1:03:17.600 --> 1:03:20.680 That's all up there with old Martha. But Martha did 1:03:20.760 --> 1:03:24.480 the bed though, yeah, Martha Gangster. No, no, yes, I 1:03:24.520 --> 1:03:27.919 think Martha got a razor on her though. She tried 1:03:27.960 --> 1:03:30.880 chopping it up with Snoop's got a razor. He motherfucking tongue. 1:03:30.920 --> 1:03:32.840 Yeah, she loves you do. 1:03:33.400 --> 1:03:35.440 I want to talk about the Stewart. I want we 1:03:35.480 --> 1:03:44.919 gotta have on drinks. Whoever you have, you drink? 1:03:45.880 --> 1:03:47.560 Okay, so we got, we got. This is a game 1:03:48.000 --> 1:03:50.520 we're going there right, let's call it quick time of slop. 1:03:50.880 --> 1:03:52.160 So we know you're not drinking. 1:03:52.160 --> 1:03:53.880 If you want one of your homies to be a 1:03:53.920 --> 1:03:55.000 designated drinker. 1:03:54.760 --> 1:03:58.760 You could do that. You have me, okay, all right, 1:03:59.160 --> 1:04:02.560 Phil Jamie, you gotta fill them up over. 1:04:02.400 --> 1:04:07.040 There, Freddy game, all right, you got Freddie. 1:04:06.680 --> 1:04:12.440 Gang Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is how we play. 1:04:12.680 --> 1:04:15.600 So if you can pick one or the other, if 1:04:15.600 --> 1:04:18.240 you pick both of you be politically correct, then then 1:04:18.600 --> 1:04:19.520 then your friend drinks. 1:04:19.880 --> 1:04:22.400 But we're gonna drink. Drink we're gonna leave them out there. 1:04:22.480 --> 1:04:24.200 You know what I mean, and it is meant to 1:04:24.200 --> 1:04:27.560 trick you. So both are neither yeah, both or neither answer. 1:04:27.760 --> 1:04:29.240 We're drinking. And by the way, we don't make up 1:04:29.240 --> 1:04:32.040 these questions. Me and the human guy is the Colombian 1:04:32.080 --> 1:04:37.400 guy Dominicans, so we don't make up these questions. Okay, 1:04:37.880 --> 1:04:40.080 by the way, this first one off top. You're gonna drink, sir. 1:04:40.160 --> 1:04:42.800 We're all drinking a drinking Okay. 1:04:45.240 --> 1:04:46.600 Uh with the drinking. 1:04:47.360 --> 1:04:49.200 We got all kinds of so whatever you want, whatever 1:04:49.200 --> 1:04:52.520 you want, what do you have them? Okay, we do vodka? Yeah, okay, 1:04:52.520 --> 1:04:56.640 you ready Jamie, doctor dre or snoop. 1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:11.440 Because I knew you was gonna do that. 1:05:07.120 --> 1:05:17.400 I thought about that because I. 1:05:25.160 --> 1:05:28.960 Might as well bring a couple. Mine is here. I'm 1:05:28.960 --> 1:05:33.600 gonna drink. I'm gonna drink, you say both, right, you 1:05:33.680 --> 1:05:35.960 know what. I'm not only drinking to that, but I'm 1:05:36.040 --> 1:05:43.520 drinking to the love they have for you. Again, I'm 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:45.440 not I want to give up the documentary, but I 1:05:45.480 --> 1:05:47.320 want I want to send people to go watch this 1:05:47.400 --> 1:05:50.840 motherfucker ship. We should premiere here. I would love, I 1:05:50.840 --> 1:05:53.160 would love, I would love to let me say something. 1:05:53.320 --> 1:05:56.200 Let me just say something. It's not it's not today, 1:05:56.520 --> 1:06:01.160 it's not today. Show show him love. It's the genuineness 1:06:01.880 --> 1:06:04.520 in their voice. Like when you look at them at 1:06:04.560 --> 1:06:08.400 that documentary, they proud to be there. You understand what 1:06:08.400 --> 1:06:13.040 I'm trying to say. They they are happy to lend 1:06:13.120 --> 1:06:15.680 their time to this legacy. 1:06:15.760 --> 1:06:19.520 Shared legacy and real relationships, real relation that's what people 1:06:19.560 --> 1:06:19.960 need done this. 1:06:20.000 --> 1:06:22.240 So I gotta tap my hat off to you to 1:06:22.360 --> 1:06:28.520 them for that solo. Mmmm that one. 1:06:28.560 --> 1:06:32.760 You need an ice in there warm my chest got 1:06:32.760 --> 1:06:35.960 mad hot. And if you've got any stories while anybody 1:06:35.960 --> 1:06:37.520 we mentioned, stop tell us the story. 1:06:38.840 --> 1:06:39.320 What's your name? 1:06:39.360 --> 1:06:39.640 My man? 1:06:39.720 --> 1:06:41.760 Freddy K? Yeah, freddy K. He's gonna get you fucked 1:06:41.800 --> 1:06:49.200 up today if you be fucked up with you though 1:06:49.440 --> 1:06:51.880 for all the years of him not drinking, because that 1:06:51.960 --> 1:06:53.880 was one of the parts of the documentary too, He said, 1:06:54.200 --> 1:06:56.840 I haven't drank in fifteen and they said, what is that? 1:06:57.000 --> 1:07:03.000 Fifteen days? Okay? Easy or tupac. 1:07:04.680 --> 1:07:09.120 M y'all ain't right. 1:07:10.920 --> 1:07:11.840 I take a shot for that. 1:07:11.960 --> 1:07:15.160 Yeah, you got the train, so. 1:07:19.080 --> 1:07:20.760 Okay, you get the next one. 1:07:20.800 --> 1:07:23.040 You're right there, right bro? You want to be doing. 1:07:24.840 --> 1:07:27.440 Ice Cuba scarface go. 1:07:27.360 --> 1:07:33.600 Ahead, bro, I just show. I was just with Face 1:07:33.760 --> 1:07:34.280 last night. 1:07:35.000 --> 1:07:36.320 Don't tell me y'are playing golf. 1:07:36.760 --> 1:07:38.200 No, yeah, I'm showing down. 1:07:38.160 --> 1:07:40.760 Okay, okay, okay. And he wanted a coin on the 1:07:40.840 --> 1:07:45.280 desk ding. Oh that was oh the tiny desk. Yeah yeah, he. 1:07:45.360 --> 1:07:47.160 Killed, yeah, killed. 1:07:47.200 --> 1:07:48.800 I think that's one of the best tiny desks I've 1:07:48.800 --> 1:07:50.200 ever seen, bro Like. 1:07:50.520 --> 1:07:54.400 It was at a place in Dallas called the Bomb 1:07:54.440 --> 1:07:58.720 Factory and went straight out of comfin the movie came out. 1:08:00.240 --> 1:08:04.880 Motherfuckers was blowing my people were blowing my, you know, 1:08:04.960 --> 1:08:07.880 blowing me up like you in the market. 1:08:08.800 --> 1:08:17.400 They talked me into doing a concert, and. 1:08:15.320 --> 1:08:19.880 And and Face was in. Face was locked up in. 1:08:19.920 --> 1:08:25.080 Atlanta, and he got one of the boys from Houston 1:08:27.160 --> 1:08:29.880 to get to bond him out so he could catch 1:08:29.920 --> 1:08:34.280 a flight to get home to Houston. Then drove four 1:08:34.320 --> 1:08:38.960 hours to Dallas to be in that show with me. 1:08:39.800 --> 1:08:40.800 Face right. 1:08:41.400 --> 1:08:43.760 So when he when I heard it, he was, I said, 1:08:43.760 --> 1:08:46.120 all right, hell, I gotta go down there and stump 1:08:46.160 --> 1:08:50.160 to yawn for my guy. So scar faced me in 1:08:50.240 --> 1:08:53.000 a lot, he said, Texas. He said, he's an alarm 1:08:53.080 --> 1:08:59.040 from my state, one of the few guys that's in 1:08:59.120 --> 1:09:02.880 my class. That I really respect. In fact, he was 1:09:03.479 --> 1:09:07.000 in a rat pack that was in Atlanta in those days. 1:09:07.000 --> 1:09:09.960 It was me and bim C. 1:09:11.080 --> 1:09:15.760 Park and Breed Richie rich from Atlanta and took them 1:09:15.800 --> 1:09:19.440 from Oakland and too Shortland. 1:09:19.520 --> 1:09:21.120 Yeah, and we all hung out. 1:09:21.160 --> 1:09:23.559 Everybody was living in Atlanta. Yeah, Eric Sermon, who was 1:09:23.560 --> 1:09:23.880 down there. 1:09:25.479 --> 1:09:29.040 Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, very very you got a very 1:09:29.040 --> 1:09:29.680 important man. 1:09:30.040 --> 1:09:33.320 Magic was my friend. Yeah, because I was bawling then 1:09:34.200 --> 1:09:36.879 and I was going there and man, lean. 1:09:36.800 --> 1:09:39.000 She said, you had a better than this, but you 1:09:39.080 --> 1:09:39.759 used to go to sleep. 1:09:40.000 --> 1:09:43.160 That was in my dis days. 1:09:44.400 --> 1:09:47.080 I was one of the few people that that, like 1:09:47.160 --> 1:09:50.679 when anybody's ever been in Magic, the o g one. 1:09:51.080 --> 1:09:54.200 You know, you you walk in and the club is 1:09:54.240 --> 1:09:56.400 over there, but when you see as you walk in 1:09:56.400 --> 1:09:59.680 the door, there's no door right here that leads downstairs. 1:10:00.320 --> 1:10:03.080 That's where he got the layouts. 1:10:02.800 --> 1:10:05.920 That's what Magic's office is, and the girls go to 1:10:06.000 --> 1:10:08.040 the to do their thing. I was one of the 1:10:08.080 --> 1:10:10.880 few folks that Magic would let go down, man, because 1:10:10.880 --> 1:10:11.719 I was just loaded. 1:10:11.800 --> 1:10:14.320 Man, I don't even know how to ask now. 1:10:14.360 --> 1:10:17.240 I'm just walking through it, like and they lit that 1:10:17.280 --> 1:10:20.000 ain't nobody that's die. Let him alone. I'd be down 1:10:20.120 --> 1:10:24.479 that doing man, look in you couldn't put that part in. 1:10:24.439 --> 1:10:25.200 The movie. 1:10:26.880 --> 1:10:34.559 Drink Drink. I think we chaers the ecstasy on the low. 1:10:34.600 --> 1:10:38.880 I'm just dreading it before ecstasy, I believe evolved their 1:10:38.880 --> 1:10:42.360 heads somewhere. I'm just being all right, okay, A just 1:10:42.400 --> 1:10:44.000 one go ahead, Na's or jay Z. 1:10:50.320 --> 1:10:51.360 Boy, You're gonna be fucked. 1:10:52.439 --> 1:10:53.080 I like it. 1:10:54.040 --> 1:10:57.599 Damn I feel bad, you know, man. Let me tell 1:10:57.600 --> 1:11:00.680 you something. And this this. 1:11:02.439 --> 1:11:04.920 It's kind of because I met The first time I 1:11:04.960 --> 1:11:07.600 met do Eyes, it was in the middle of my 1:11:07.640 --> 1:11:09.000 addiction for Wow. 1:11:09.200 --> 1:11:14.280 And he rode his bicycle along. I went to I 1:11:14.360 --> 1:11:19.240 was doing a video for a song called on that 1:11:19.320 --> 1:11:22.160 Elter Skelter record and what's. 1:11:22.000 --> 1:11:27.400 The guys just nutsty it's the the. 1:11:27.360 --> 1:11:32.120 Title from Dre and made the album myself and put 1:11:32.160 --> 1:11:33.519 it out. That's why you never heard. 1:11:35.080 --> 1:11:38.879 But uh, he rode his bike all the way uptown 1:11:39.479 --> 1:11:44.760 to holler see doc out. And when you when you. 1:11:46.520 --> 1:11:51.640 Mhmm out there, you know it's it's a it's a 1:11:51.640 --> 1:11:52.680 weird space, bro. 1:11:52.880 --> 1:11:57.640 Like when you're when you when you fucked up, you 1:11:57.720 --> 1:11:59.720 really don't want to like be around or you don't 1:11:59.720 --> 1:12:02.960 want to be around nobody. You just want to be 1:12:03.040 --> 1:12:05.040 somewhere where you got. I guess you can think. I guess. 1:12:05.080 --> 1:12:10.800 I don't know, but uh, it wasn't the best introduction doing. 1:12:11.320 --> 1:12:15.400 But he was a gentleman man, so much class, and 1:12:15.600 --> 1:12:18.400 uh I had I had a chance to say the 1:12:18.439 --> 1:12:21.719 same thing. Then I said sin to you years later. 1:12:22.479 --> 1:12:22.759 Uh. 1:12:22.800 --> 1:12:25.200 And so I never had a chance to meet jay Z. 1:12:25.360 --> 1:12:28.759 I never met him, So I don't have any reference 1:12:29.200 --> 1:12:33.360 for him. But I got h got tons of respect 1:12:33.920 --> 1:12:37.000 for nurs not just as a as an MC is 1:12:37.040 --> 1:12:40.000 one of the goats, but just as a human being. 1:12:40.680 --> 1:12:42.840 Let's take a shot to that. You know who he picked. 1:12:43.280 --> 1:12:44.360 Let's take a shot. 1:12:44.720 --> 1:12:51.479 He's saying, drink. I feel like it's gonna be that 1:12:51.640 --> 1:12:52.360 one for us today. 1:12:52.439 --> 1:12:55.240 Okay, Jacob put my name and a song. I can't 1:12:55.439 --> 1:12:57.200 That's why you know, I can't go the other way. 1:12:57.280 --> 1:13:01.479 Now you see that he was the R O c R. 1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:04.800 Public Service Anno, that's goddamn it. 1:13:05.320 --> 1:13:09.640 Come on, Boys in the Hood or Medicine Society and 1:13:09.680 --> 1:13:19.720 Minister's Society. The movie Yeah yeah, yeah, I ain't right. 1:13:23.160 --> 1:13:25.720 They could be whatever criteria you whatever criteria you want. 1:13:25.960 --> 1:13:27.439 Maybe he was on a good movie. When you saw 1:13:27.520 --> 1:13:28.000 one movie. 1:13:29.120 --> 1:13:31.760 Man, that's just bad y'all trying to just do a nigga. 1:13:34.920 --> 1:13:38.960 Because Menace was a great movie for that time, Old 1:13:39.040 --> 1:13:40.200 dog Yeah, man. 1:13:40.240 --> 1:13:42.000 It was a great movie for that time. 1:13:42.760 --> 1:13:45.639 M C eight was incredible in that movie. Now I'm 1:13:45.680 --> 1:13:50.400 like nigga, he was old dog man. I'm scared them. 1:13:49.479 --> 1:13:52.479 Saying, why are you kidding me? 1:13:53.280 --> 1:13:56.080 Got Man of Curs and Ship? You meeting little like nigga? 1:13:56.600 --> 1:13:59.040 You o dog man, he's a real actor. That's what 1:13:59.160 --> 1:14:01.320 a Man of Curas in mass Carroll on and Ship. 1:14:01.840 --> 1:14:06.240 I'm just playing and boy to say, man, it's on 1:14:06.360 --> 1:14:08.960 that one really Okay, man, it's okay, that's cool. We 1:14:09.000 --> 1:14:10.000 ain't drinking all right. 1:14:10.400 --> 1:14:14.439 The Chronic or Doggy Style and this one says he 1:14:14.600 --> 1:14:17.960 must pick one. I didn't they put that. They put 1:14:18.000 --> 1:14:18.920 in parentheses in. 1:14:18.920 --> 1:14:26.720 The Chronic even though sonically Doggy Style is a much 1:14:26.760 --> 1:14:27.320 better record. 1:14:28.320 --> 1:14:33.040 Uh, I kind of kind of get I got that. 1:14:33.120 --> 1:14:35.120 I listened to him back and forth yesterday. 1:14:35.200 --> 1:14:39.559 But the songs, the actual songs that are put together 1:14:40.080 --> 1:14:41.040 are better on the Chronic. 1:14:41.120 --> 1:14:42.080 It's a better journey. 1:14:42.360 --> 1:14:47.320 It's more fun, right, entertaining the foundation to it. Yeah, 1:14:47.479 --> 1:14:48.200 it's the foundation. 1:14:48.400 --> 1:14:51.719 Yeah, he learned to perfect that for doggy style. 1:14:51.880 --> 1:14:55.919 Yeah, and there's a song called. 1:14:59.120 --> 1:15:01.559 I've been Top and stop it like a rabbit when 1:15:01.600 --> 1:15:03.280 I get the mini rocks, you know, like I still 1:15:03.320 --> 1:15:05.080 have it ship. 1:15:04.880 --> 1:15:06.479 Isn't it? Yuh? 1:15:07.439 --> 1:15:12.280 First time I've heard Snoop freestylear song. There's no words 1:15:12.360 --> 1:15:15.040 to that, and it wasn't I'm a sit and think 1:15:15.120 --> 1:15:17.680 of the line and say the next line. It just 1:15:17.800 --> 1:15:20.519 came in and started rapping it. It's why the line 1:15:20.600 --> 1:15:24.280 the rhymes. Maybe Sam elementary because that's the way he 1:15:24.760 --> 1:15:28.040 structured his stuff as a kid. But he that song 1:15:28.160 --> 1:15:31.479 took about three minutes to make seem like the nigga 1:15:31.560 --> 1:15:33.960 just came in there. Drake cut the beat on, dude 1:15:34.000 --> 1:15:39.400 started rapping. Drake said, stop, get out the booth, wait 1:15:39.479 --> 1:15:41.920 for wait for the break, then come back here in 1:15:41.960 --> 1:15:50.040 a minute start stop starting, no no retakes, no nothing, 1:15:50.120 --> 1:15:50.840 one time through. 1:15:51.840 --> 1:15:53.439 That was one take, one time through. 1:15:54.400 --> 1:15:55.320 And the only other. 1:15:55.240 --> 1:15:59.320 Person that is ever I've ever seen do that besides 1:15:59.439 --> 1:16:02.679 myself and the studio was corrupts. 1:16:02.960 --> 1:16:05.840 He Rubb was a one take guy, a lot a lot. 1:16:06.200 --> 1:16:06.360 You know. 1:16:07.120 --> 1:16:10.839 He brings us to our next question, dazz are corrupt? 1:16:11.160 --> 1:16:16.320 Oh man, y'all I can't do it. Y'all better get 1:16:16.360 --> 1:16:23.000 you something. Who is we go? 1:16:23.120 --> 1:16:24.479 I'm gonn talking about the time I hung out with 1:16:24.560 --> 1:16:26.280 you and Dog Pound two. I don't know if you remember. 1:16:26.520 --> 1:16:33.160 We go to those guys, really, man, those Long Beach guys, really, 1:16:33.200 --> 1:16:37.840 the Donald Pound guys really made la because me and 1:16:37.920 --> 1:16:39.160 Dry used to feud. 1:16:39.479 --> 1:16:41.880 Because even though Long Beach is not considered l a right, 1:16:41.960 --> 1:16:44.800 it's not considered that's right. Okay, but those days took me. 1:16:44.920 --> 1:16:48.360 Today they hood and I'm on the block with these boys, 1:16:48.400 --> 1:16:49.120 and I'm kicking it. 1:16:49.320 --> 1:16:52.280 Like you know, there's no red in Long Beach. It's 1:16:52.360 --> 1:16:52.920 all blue. 1:16:54.280 --> 1:16:57.280 I don't have to worry about where I am or no, 1:16:59.080 --> 1:17:02.280 you know, because I'm with these boys and I haven't 1:17:02.320 --> 1:17:07.479 seen I don't seen these I haven't seen folks get. 1:17:07.439 --> 1:17:13.120 Killed for you know, just aroun from sixties right, Let 1:17:13.160 --> 1:17:16.160 me not he he wants to you to know he's 1:17:16.160 --> 1:17:18.320 from sixty Oh yeah, he don't play that. 1:17:18.720 --> 1:17:22.760 But he from Philly, from but but he but he 1:17:23.240 --> 1:17:24.760 he's a he's a neighborhood guy. 1:17:25.520 --> 1:17:27.759 Every now and then I just like to get corrupt 1:17:27.800 --> 1:17:30.080 mad because I like to have him to do you cut. 1:17:38.000 --> 1:17:40.400 Let me tell you something if you've never heard Corrupt 1:17:40.560 --> 1:17:42.760 curse when he's in crib. 1:17:42.880 --> 1:17:47.120 Mole, it's the wonderfulest thing ever. I'm just being honest 1:17:47.120 --> 1:17:48.720 with you. But you just gotta pis him of up 1:17:48.760 --> 1:17:52.320 a little bit and he he can't stop saying. 1:17:52.160 --> 1:17:55.640 Cook cook cook cook cook cook, coup cool on and 1:17:55.880 --> 1:17:57.519 he just keep going and he. 1:17:59.000 --> 1:18:04.040 It's the it's the most beautiful ist binocular. I was 1:18:04.240 --> 1:18:07.519 in the human language when Corp is mad and he's 1:18:07.720 --> 1:18:10.559 just on his cuk cook cut me. 1:18:10.640 --> 1:18:15.400 And uh Corrus going at it. When I was when 1:18:15.439 --> 1:18:18.519 I out there, I hang with them boys. During that 1:18:18.640 --> 1:18:23.720 Grammy celebration, I was talking to Corrupt and he was, 1:18:24.120 --> 1:18:26.840 you know, Cruppers a dude, deep dude, Like you don't 1:18:26.880 --> 1:18:30.640 get that from him just on GP. But he's a 1:18:30.760 --> 1:18:33.240 deep thinker. He's just is you know what I mean, 1:18:33.560 --> 1:18:35.040 Like you can't come up with words. 1:18:34.840 --> 1:18:41.360 Like lyricists yet and he drink. Oh yeah, yeah, but 1:18:41.520 --> 1:18:41.760 he was. 1:18:41.920 --> 1:18:45.160 But I was. I was in a space where I 1:18:45.240 --> 1:18:50.479 fell not the most comfortable, uh. 1:18:53.520 --> 1:18:58.160 In in that space because up until that point, nobody 1:18:58.240 --> 1:19:01.200 ever called me for nothing. I mean, but when they 1:19:01.240 --> 1:19:03.519 get the awards, so they get to this, so they 1:19:03.600 --> 1:19:06.200 get to that. But Q made it a point. 1:19:06.360 --> 1:19:10.479 I see that, uh, and he would and he kept, no, 1:19:10.680 --> 1:19:12.840 you gotta no, you gotta come out, No, you need to, 1:19:13.200 --> 1:19:15.320 you know. And so I said, you know what I'm coming. 1:19:15.680 --> 1:19:16.120 You know what I mean. 1:19:18.600 --> 1:19:22.679 Never gave me no Grammy though now I mind didn't 1:19:22.720 --> 1:19:26.840 show up. So uh, if you're listening, I tell what's 1:19:26.880 --> 1:19:28.960 the ladies? And I got some woman's name. I said, 1:19:29.600 --> 1:19:32.080 thanks the lady sent to an email or. 1:19:33.200 --> 1:19:35.160 You know, decide to give me a Grammy this year? 1:19:35.240 --> 1:19:39.760 Show up just in case I forgot my actress. But 1:19:41.040 --> 1:19:48.240 when when I saw what's the ballplayer? Uh uh for Boston. 1:19:49.320 --> 1:19:52.880 Not tayle them the other guy Jaylen Brown? When when 1:19:53.000 --> 1:19:55.800 Jaylen Brown showed up for Q at. 1:19:55.760 --> 1:19:58.599 That or the Walker thirty three thing or the Big 1:19:58.640 --> 1:19:59.479 three or Big three. 1:19:59.400 --> 1:20:03.880 Thirt I says the que that was a light he 1:20:04.000 --> 1:20:07.320 gave you in front of the whole world when you 1:20:07.479 --> 1:20:10.080 called me about that Grammy thing, that was a light 1:20:10.200 --> 1:20:12.719 you were giving me in front of the whole world. 1:20:13.160 --> 1:20:15.960 So I had to come and accept that gift from 1:20:16.040 --> 1:20:21.280 you just on GP because when you when you when 1:20:21.320 --> 1:20:23.639 you inducted into the Rock and Rock and Roll Hall 1:20:23.720 --> 1:20:28.160 of Fame, you said, doctor is my guy, and he 1:20:28.200 --> 1:20:28.760 should be here. 1:20:28.800 --> 1:20:29.599 I wish he was here. 1:20:29.760 --> 1:20:31.679 He helped write all the records. 1:20:31.960 --> 1:20:35.240 So you was giving a precursor then that next time 1:20:35.320 --> 1:20:37.519 we do this, I'm gonna call my God. And he 1:20:37.680 --> 1:20:39.560 was true to that, and so I had to be 1:20:39.640 --> 1:20:41.120 a real woman stand up there with you. 1:20:46.479 --> 1:20:53.599 But but there's something about you that makes everyone want 1:20:53.680 --> 1:20:56.320 to give you your props like that. It's not just Cube, 1:20:56.360 --> 1:20:58.120 it's not just Dre, it's not just Snoop, it's not 1:20:58.240 --> 1:21:03.599 just them. It's something about you, like the industry wants 1:21:03.720 --> 1:21:04.799 to give you your flowers. 1:21:05.040 --> 1:21:06.560 Yeah, bro, it's the door guys. 1:21:08.240 --> 1:21:08.720 Want to get you. 1:21:13.080 --> 1:21:16.240 You you saw, you saw. Can you give me a 1:21:16.360 --> 1:21:20.640 reason why that? You know what I mean? Can you 1:21:20.760 --> 1:21:23.080 give me a reason? I can't give you a reason. 1:21:23.200 --> 1:21:28.599 But the reason I look at it like this, there's 1:21:28.640 --> 1:21:33.000 a it's a g O D thing. And so this 1:21:33.200 --> 1:21:37.559 path that I walked, and I told my I told my. 1:21:39.040 --> 1:21:43.000 My mother when I was coming, we're taking drink chemps 1:21:43.040 --> 1:21:45.519 to church because it's the g O. 1:21:45.600 --> 1:21:48.000 D thing And they need to know that. That's why 1:21:48.120 --> 1:21:50.080 the g O D thing is a d O C thing. 1:21:50.160 --> 1:21:54.400 That's right, goddamn it. So when they say why oh, 1:21:54.720 --> 1:21:57.240 why didn't it happen like this? Or why did it 1:21:57.280 --> 1:21:59.439 happen like this? Because it's a g O D thing. 1:22:00.080 --> 1:22:03.280 He needs he need folks to know this is not 1:22:03.479 --> 1:22:06.840 happening because of this person, happening because of that person, 1:22:07.360 --> 1:22:10.760 or not happening because of this person that is a geod. 1:22:10.600 --> 1:22:13.080 Thing, or when it's his time, watch what he do. 1:22:13.720 --> 1:22:14.200 You know what I mean? 1:22:14.560 --> 1:22:19.000 And so and so even us having this opportunity to 1:22:19.080 --> 1:22:21.479 sit down and talk, it's a part of that plan, bro, 1:22:22.400 --> 1:22:24.240 you know what I mean. We've been talking for two years. 1:22:24.320 --> 1:22:26.439 I most when you're gonna come, I say, I don't 1:22:26.479 --> 1:22:28.840 have no nothing to talk about. But when the Grammy 1:22:28.920 --> 1:22:31.200 thing happened, I said, well, now now I feel like 1:22:31.240 --> 1:22:31.920 I got something. 1:22:32.080 --> 1:22:34.760 Well let me tell me. Just tell you something. This 1:22:34.960 --> 1:22:37.519 is your house. You don't need nothing to talk about. 1:22:37.640 --> 1:22:39.200 If you want to come over here and talk about 1:22:39.280 --> 1:22:42.360 pink toe. Now, he's not gonna talk about that because 1:22:42.560 --> 1:22:48.120 he's not opening that door. But we don't care, because 1:22:48.200 --> 1:22:51.400 you know what, we created this platform for you. We 1:22:51.520 --> 1:22:55.040 created this platform for us, for people. You know, there's 1:22:55.200 --> 1:22:58.200 no other genre in this game that has this word 1:22:58.520 --> 1:23:02.400 washed up like people say you did ten years in 1:23:02.439 --> 1:23:04.519 this game and they want to throw us away. They 1:23:04.560 --> 1:23:07.080 don't do that in they don't do that in jazz. 1:23:07.320 --> 1:23:09.439 I'm not gonna allow them to do that in hip hops, right, 1:23:10.000 --> 1:23:12.720 I'm not. I just can't. They say that wine gets 1:23:12.800 --> 1:23:14.880 better with time. How the fuck we ag't? 1:23:15.000 --> 1:23:15.040 What? 1:23:15.560 --> 1:23:17.920 What the fuck is we doing? I'm not lying that 1:23:18.120 --> 1:23:26.519 on my This show is created for that, and we're 1:23:26.520 --> 1:23:29.000 gonna continue to do it. And guess what, we're great 1:23:29.080 --> 1:23:30.000 at it, motherfucker. 1:23:30.120 --> 1:23:30.559 That's right. 1:23:30.720 --> 1:23:33.519 We're great at it's great at giving people flowers who 1:23:33.560 --> 1:23:36.840 deserve it. That's because the more, the more they say, 1:23:36.880 --> 1:23:39.479 the black and the barrier sweet of the youths. Motherfucker's right. 1:23:39.600 --> 1:23:42.040 That means when we go with time, we get better 1:23:42.080 --> 1:23:44.080 with time. We don't get worse with time. Only people 1:23:44.120 --> 1:23:45.760 who get worse with time and stupid people. And I 1:23:45.800 --> 1:23:48.080 don't think we're stupid at all at all, bro at all. 1:23:48.200 --> 1:23:51.360 We're out here doing this and again, let me get 1:23:51.400 --> 1:23:57.040 back to the documentary, because it shows how much you 1:23:57.240 --> 1:23:59.920 mean to the community, how much you mean to hip hop, 1:24:00.320 --> 1:24:04.679 how much you mean to humanity, and how you brong 1:24:04.760 --> 1:24:07.960 at three sixty. I believe it's a pastor. What's the 1:24:08.040 --> 1:24:11.600 black brother's name that you got with in the documentary. 1:24:11.520 --> 1:24:12.280 Reverend Johnson. 1:24:12.360 --> 1:24:16.320 Reverend Johnson. Okay, okay, he's Martin Luther King. Guy, he's 1:24:16.439 --> 1:24:18.200 the new Martin Luther King. Oh yeah, well we need 1:24:18.280 --> 1:24:18.960 to talk about him. 1:24:19.000 --> 1:24:22.280 He was in he was with him, Yeah, yeah, he 1:24:22.479 --> 1:24:26.599 was in college when King started his non violent movement. 1:24:26.840 --> 1:24:27.080 Wow. 1:24:27.320 --> 1:24:28.080 He worked. 1:24:29.800 --> 1:24:37.799 Really closely with He's the same age as sharpening those guys, 1:24:38.479 --> 1:24:45.679 you know. And they sent him to Dallas in sixty eight. Wow, 1:24:45.960 --> 1:24:46.719 Reverend Johnson. 1:24:46.920 --> 1:24:52.599 Wow. Two another one. Jamie cleared away for doctor King 1:24:52.680 --> 1:24:56.479 to come through because the city didn't want King. 1:24:56.560 --> 1:25:02.400 There both sides, you know what I'm saying, Democrat and no. 1:25:02.680 --> 1:25:05.400 I mean I mean the white folks and the black 1:25:05.439 --> 1:25:09.320 fo's right, that's right, didn't want doctor kimps, right, the black. 1:25:09.120 --> 1:25:14.160 Preachers during that time. Okay, what's on doctor Reben Johnson's 1:25:14.160 --> 1:25:17.360 head about? Because they didn't want it, you know what 1:25:17.400 --> 1:25:19.960 I mean? Because he doctor King would be messing up 1:25:20.000 --> 1:25:20.439 their money. 1:25:20.720 --> 1:25:20.960 Wow. 1:25:21.360 --> 1:25:23.800 Know how the game goes, bro it's nothing. It was 1:25:23.880 --> 1:25:26.400 probably nothing different than. 1:25:26.479 --> 1:25:29.920 Doctor that's just too. That's what I heard. You had 1:25:29.960 --> 1:25:34.200 to that he was going to dress her. He was outside. 1:25:34.640 --> 1:25:38.599 Telling about doctor Camp he was for that. I mean, 1:25:38.640 --> 1:25:41.519 I don't mean that's that's what they used. It help 1:25:41.560 --> 1:25:43.559 pro against them. They try to use that against them, 1:25:43.720 --> 1:25:46.200 but that he was having an affair, that's what they 1:25:46.240 --> 1:25:46.640 tried to use. 1:25:47.240 --> 1:25:48.720 The follow up. They finally. 1:25:50.160 --> 1:25:58.439 G Bro the wrong man, respect the kid Bro still. 1:25:58.360 --> 1:25:59.160 Follows out the can. 1:25:59.800 --> 1:26:01.679 That's a weak argument, That's what I'm saying. 1:26:01.960 --> 1:26:03.960 I try to get you to not like a brother, 1:26:04.400 --> 1:26:06.479 you know what I mean, Like, because he had. 1:26:08.479 --> 1:26:10.760 Suicide, they try to get him the commit suicide and 1:26:10.800 --> 1:26:13.760 going to King. Yeah, that f b I. They tried 1:26:13.800 --> 1:26:15.559 to use that against them. They they spied on him. 1:26:15.560 --> 1:26:16.800 They found out that he was having an affair, and 1:26:16.840 --> 1:26:18.080 they tried to get him the commissions. 1:26:18.120 --> 1:26:19.720 He got a little trim while he was getting a tram. 1:26:20.640 --> 1:26:24.600 I'm still don't go off of my research research, but 1:26:24.880 --> 1:26:28.679 that what I seen Peter Peter Johnson came down. 1:26:28.760 --> 1:26:29.920 Peter Johnson. That's that's the. 1:26:30.400 --> 1:26:33.439 Lader ground work for doctor King. And they killed him 1:26:33.479 --> 1:26:35.400 that year, you know, I mean that was the year 1:26:35.439 --> 1:26:35.800 he died. 1:26:35.840 --> 1:26:37.719 Oh doctor King, I'm thinking it was Jane Peter Johnson. 1:26:37.720 --> 1:26:39.000 I'm like, I've just seen him in the document. 1:26:39.080 --> 1:26:40.040 So he dies. 1:26:42.160 --> 1:26:47.280 And Reverend Johnson stays, uh for a while or not, 1:26:47.439 --> 1:26:49.599 and then they asked him to come back. But there 1:26:49.680 --> 1:26:53.880 had been a particular police story going on back then 1:26:54.560 --> 1:26:59.519 about this particular policeman who was executing black and brown kids. 1:27:00.040 --> 1:27:01.200 Wow in Dallas. 1:27:01.320 --> 1:27:07.240 Yeah, okay, I think uh uh he w. 1:27:07.479 --> 1:27:11.519 One of the stories is it was a little uh 1:27:12.200 --> 1:27:15.560 the the Latin kid's name was Santos, I think, and 1:27:15.720 --> 1:27:19.040 he had the kid handcuffed in his car and he 1:27:19.280 --> 1:27:22.559 was playing Russian Roulette with his pistol, trying to get 1:27:22.600 --> 1:27:25.840 the kid to to confess to something and and and 1:27:25.960 --> 1:27:29.360 blew his head off, you know. And Reverend Johnson stopped 1:27:29.400 --> 1:27:31.479 the yard. He had all the you know, did all 1:27:31.520 --> 1:27:33.960 the things that they did back then, get the police 1:27:33.960 --> 1:27:37.080 off the street. Wow, And uh, he said, what the 1:27:37.160 --> 1:27:40.920 story he tells me is he went in stomping it 1:27:41.000 --> 1:27:43.400 and uh and the powers that be told him that 1:27:43.560 --> 1:27:46.040 they would get him off the street, but they couldn't 1:27:46.120 --> 1:27:50.479 prosecute him from killing a a a nigga, you know, right, 1:27:50.560 --> 1:27:54.720 And so they took him off the street. And then uh, 1:27:54.880 --> 1:27:58.839 the folks in Atlanta called uh Reverend Johnson back to Atlanta. 1:27:59.680 --> 1:28:00.519 And when. 1:28:02.880 --> 1:28:05.160 Reverend Johnson went back to Atlanta. They gave to dude 1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:07.120 his gun and put him back on the street. He 1:28:07.200 --> 1:28:09.840 went right back I there and kept another baby. And 1:28:09.960 --> 1:28:12.320 when he did that, Peter Johnson came back to Dynason. 1:28:12.479 --> 1:28:15.280 He was there ever since. Matter of fact, with the 1:28:15.360 --> 1:28:18.600 year I was born, Peter Johnson was walking around in 1:28:18.680 --> 1:28:19.360 the projects I. 1:28:19.479 --> 1:28:23.560 Was born in, feeding people. Yeah, man, And so I 1:28:23.640 --> 1:28:24.800 wanted for him. 1:28:25.920 --> 1:28:28.080 I wanted that light to be on him in this 1:28:28.280 --> 1:28:32.080 documentary way, yeah, bro, because he deserved it. 1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:34.519 Like he's the most humble man. 1:28:34.600 --> 1:28:37.200 I knows, unassuming. 1:28:36.720 --> 1:28:38.559 Person, doesn't care about money. 1:28:38.960 --> 1:28:41.720 Still to this day, he's out there struggling trying to 1:28:41.800 --> 1:28:44.519 help other folks, right, and so I'm trying to, you know, 1:28:44.680 --> 1:28:46.120 do what I can to help him now. 1:28:46.720 --> 1:28:48.679 And he said, he linked with you, He said, because 1:28:48.720 --> 1:28:52.720 people want your autograph, not his, when they should want his. 1:28:53.479 --> 1:28:57.560 You know what, man, because without them, he paid the 1:28:57.600 --> 1:28:59.920 way for all of these boys that can get out 1:29:00.040 --> 1:29:02.680 didn't get that money like that. They wouldn't have been 1:29:02.680 --> 1:29:05.240 able to do it without this guy. M I forget 1:29:05.280 --> 1:29:08.680 what the quote is. They said, Uh, this kind of 1:29:09.560 --> 1:29:12.639 father makes this kind of child, that makes this kind 1:29:12.680 --> 1:29:14.439 of child, that makes this kind of child when it 1:29:14.520 --> 1:29:18.040 goes so in a circle like, uh, we back on 1:29:18.160 --> 1:29:21.439 the the Malcolm's and the Martins. We need them niggas 1:29:21.479 --> 1:29:24.760 to show up right about now, you know. And they 1:29:24.880 --> 1:29:29.639 gonna come from the street. See that's how everything comes 1:29:29.640 --> 1:29:33.040 from the street. Bro the wind and the loss us 1:29:33.080 --> 1:29:37.679 from the street. When I talk to these young boys, 1:29:37.720 --> 1:29:41.600 I used the uh, the story of Samson. 1:29:41.720 --> 1:29:44.120 And the Bible to try it. 1:29:44.200 --> 1:29:46.200 Yeah, and you relate that to your voice. 1:29:47.160 --> 1:29:51.160 No, I'm I'm relating that story to them because if 1:29:51.200 --> 1:29:54.360 you know the story in the book, Samson didn't do 1:29:54.520 --> 1:29:59.320 but two things they didn't preach to nobody ain't getting 1:29:59.320 --> 1:30:00.759 them getting them by the word. 1:30:01.439 --> 1:30:06.280 He did two things, Uh mess with women and whoop 1:30:06.320 --> 1:30:07.280 a whole lot of ass. 1:30:08.040 --> 1:30:08.280 That's it. 1:30:09.120 --> 1:30:11.320 And that's not a whole lot different from what these 1:30:11.400 --> 1:30:16.599 boys is doing. The only difference is he understood whose, 1:30:16.760 --> 1:30:19.800 I guess is the best way whose he was that 1:30:19.960 --> 1:30:22.439 there's a purpose why he was doing it. He wasn't 1:30:22.560 --> 1:30:25.040 just doing it to be So I tell these young 1:30:25.080 --> 1:30:27.840 boys that if you all killer, that's that's great. Let's 1:30:27.880 --> 1:30:30.720 figure out that the best reason why you're gonna do it, 1:30:30.800 --> 1:30:33.479 so you're not just doing something to be doing something. 1:30:33.920 --> 1:30:36.760 If you're gonna throw away, throw away your life, then 1:30:36.960 --> 1:30:39.960 then be purposeful with it. With purpose, you know, I mean, 1:30:40.080 --> 1:30:40.800 same way these. 1:30:40.720 --> 1:30:43.680 Folks put on the stars and stripes and they go 1:30:43.760 --> 1:30:47.400 over here to wherever they're at and and bust them 1:30:47.439 --> 1:30:50.680 folks in the ass. It's the same thing, but your 1:30:50.760 --> 1:30:53.559 purpose makes it seems like it's it's it's it has 1:30:53.600 --> 1:30:54.640 a different meaning to it. 1:30:55.160 --> 1:30:58.679 So I tell these boys in these neighborhoods that as 1:30:58.720 --> 1:31:01.680 far as that what those weapon and so concern you 1:31:02.200 --> 1:31:07.400 or your savior or or your enemy, it's you because 1:31:07.400 --> 1:31:10.040 you got the gun. These same way the Black Panthers 1:31:10.200 --> 1:31:13.839 used to say that this little circle is it's hours. 1:31:14.800 --> 1:31:16.960 We're not letting nobody come in here and do nothing. 1:31:18.040 --> 1:31:19.680 You know what I mean, whether you know whether you 1:31:19.800 --> 1:31:25.400 got blue on or red on or black on or circle, yeah, 1:31:25.720 --> 1:31:27.960 it's not going on in here, you know what I mean. 1:31:28.840 --> 1:31:32.760 If you guys developed that attitude, then whatever y'all do 1:31:32.880 --> 1:31:35.439 inside this circle, as long as it's not harm and 1:31:35.520 --> 1:31:37.000 nobody get your money. 1:31:40.120 --> 1:31:40.599 That's real. 1:31:40.960 --> 1:31:42.479 We still have a quick time of slom. Forgot that. 1:31:42.479 --> 1:31:46.720 I'm gonna take a quick pistol slim right, that's I. 1:31:46.720 --> 1:31:47.160 Can take a. 1:31:56.040 --> 1:31:56.920 Be back later. 1:31:57.040 --> 1:31:59.680 Sports Chance, Let's do it chances already, make sure that 1:31:59.760 --> 1:32:03.240 down the underdog fantasy app use promo code drink Champs 1:32:03.600 --> 1:32:05.840 or drink or Champs and get up to one hundred 1:32:05.840 --> 1:32:07.680 dollars matched or. 1:32:08.320 --> 1:32:08.920 F or n. 1:32:09.680 --> 1:32:10.559 It might not work though. 1:32:14.800 --> 1:32:18.240 Ahead, we got the number one team in the Northwest Division, 1:32:18.320 --> 1:32:19.679 the Oklahoma City Thunder. 1:32:20.200 --> 1:32:21.120 They will be playing the. 1:32:21.200 --> 1:32:24.000 Number two team in the Atlantic Division, New York Knicks 1:32:24.680 --> 1:32:26.880 in Madison Square Garden. I know this is a favorite 1:32:27.080 --> 1:32:30.000 fan favorite is so let me get ready to it. 1:32:30.080 --> 1:32:34.760 I'll go on with Knicks automatically. Automatically laffers on that. 1:32:34.920 --> 1:32:36.880 So for total points New York. 1:32:36.840 --> 1:32:39.280 Knicks averages one eleven point nine, are they going to 1:32:39.400 --> 1:32:40.000 hire or lower? 1:32:40.120 --> 1:32:40.519 At home? 1:32:40.760 --> 1:32:42.720 We're gonna go higher. In fact, J're gonna be there, 1:32:42.800 --> 1:32:45.360 Spike Lee gonna be there eating hot dogs and corn dogs. 1:32:47.240 --> 1:32:49.240 I think Rosie parad is coming out, you know what 1:32:49.240 --> 1:32:53.120 I'm saying. So I think I'm gonna go higher, diego 1:32:53.320 --> 1:32:55.000 hire lower one eleven point nine. 1:32:56.720 --> 1:33:00.559 I'm gonna go lower than one eleven nine, although they 1:33:00.600 --> 1:33:01.200 will still win. 1:33:02.560 --> 1:33:05.639 Okay, Now for the young guns, the number one team, 1:33:05.840 --> 1:33:07.920 These guys are running the off n They're led by 1:33:08.040 --> 1:33:11.280 the youngest cat shy gilge is Alexander. For Oklahoma City, 1:33:11.479 --> 1:33:14.240 they average one twenty point seven a game. We're gonna 1:33:14.320 --> 1:33:15.960 higher lower than one to twenty point seven. 1:33:16.000 --> 1:33:19.400 I'm gonna stay higher. I'm gonna say lower because bright lights, 1:33:19.479 --> 1:33:22.639 big city, a lot of people, you know, think you ready, 1:33:22.680 --> 1:33:24.920 but it's still one of the greatest places to play 1:33:25.000 --> 1:33:26.960 on Earth. It's the massive square Guarden. A lot of 1:33:27.000 --> 1:33:28.960 people can see those bright lights in that big city 1:33:29.200 --> 1:33:31.639 and they kind of fold. So, as a young team 1:33:31.960 --> 1:33:34.360 not too much experienced, I think the Garden is gonna 1:33:34.360 --> 1:33:36.040 be the winner of this game. You say they're gonna 1:33:36.040 --> 1:33:38.280 be deer and has a big deal. That's a big statement. 1:33:38.960 --> 1:33:42.240 Now we're going to continue in this format. So for assists, 1:33:43.200 --> 1:33:48.040 gilgis Alexander. He averages six point three assists with a 1:33:48.160 --> 1:33:49.680 turnover average of two point two. 1:33:49.920 --> 1:33:53.960 So we're doing higher lower, Efen, I'm gonna say lower 1:33:56.240 --> 1:33:59.600 on the assists. Lower lower is six point three and 1:34:00.200 --> 1:34:02.760 are you yeah, I'm going lower lower. 1:34:02.960 --> 1:34:05.519 With the horrible New York Niggas defense, I say, hi, 1:34:06.160 --> 1:34:08.080 second mouth, I'm keeping it. 1:34:08.120 --> 1:34:11.200 One hundred percent. It's about money. This is not personal. 1:34:11.320 --> 1:34:12.240 This is about the money. 1:34:12.600 --> 1:34:17.439 Jalen Brunson, he averages six point four. Says hire lower higher, Yeah, 1:34:17.439 --> 1:34:22.599 I'm going higher, higher, higher, Okay. Jalen Brunton is a monster, man, 1:34:23.160 --> 1:34:23.639 a monster. 1:34:23.760 --> 1:34:25.280 He's doing it. Need scoring Now. 1:34:25.400 --> 1:34:28.640 For rebound category, we're introducing a new player to this. 1:34:28.880 --> 1:34:29.000 Uh. 1:34:30.560 --> 1:34:34.400 I wish he was gonna come back. I'm gonna drink 1:34:34.479 --> 1:34:35.120 Champs Kicks. 1:34:35.320 --> 1:34:38.920 We have check home grown. He averages seven point nine 1:34:39.200 --> 1:34:43.400 rebounds a game. Check homegrown, home grown, homegrown, home grown. 1:34:43.840 --> 1:34:47.720 He got hurt in the first practice last year, so 1:34:47.840 --> 1:34:50.360 they red shared him. He's back as a rookie. He's 1:34:50.360 --> 1:34:54.439 about seven something guy. So he averaged seven point nine rebounds. 1:34:54.560 --> 1:34:55.200 Higher or lower. 1:34:55.520 --> 1:34:58.280 He's a nick. No, he's an okay see, he's an 1:34:58.280 --> 1:35:01.040 okay see. He's gonna go lower this, sir, higher, higher, 1:35:01.120 --> 1:35:01.960 absolutely higher. 1:35:02.200 --> 1:35:05.760 Now, who's gonna combat him is Isaiah Hardinson. 1:35:06.200 --> 1:35:10.120 He is a nick. He's eight point four rebounds. Diego, 1:35:10.160 --> 1:35:11.479 what are we doing? We're gonna need him to go 1:35:11.560 --> 1:35:14.439 higher for the neck winning. So for the points, let's 1:35:14.479 --> 1:35:15.879 just ended with the two All stars. 1:35:16.280 --> 1:35:20.040 Jalen Brunson twenty seven point five points throughout the season. 1:35:20.080 --> 1:35:22.679 He's going higher or lower than twenty seven point five. 1:35:22.920 --> 1:35:25.240 I'm gonna say he's going higher again, bright light, big c. 1:35:25.439 --> 1:35:26.400 This is his time. 1:35:26.720 --> 1:35:30.360 It is his time, Sonny, one hundred percent higher because 1:35:30.360 --> 1:35:32.479 he's going to battle the young STU. He's gonna put 1:35:32.560 --> 1:35:36.080 up at least forty who my opinion, I. 1:35:36.080 --> 1:35:37.800 Won't go as high as forty, but I'll say higher 1:35:37.840 --> 1:35:41.840 than thirty, higher than thirty twenty seven. 1:35:41.920 --> 1:35:42.240 All right. 1:35:42.439 --> 1:35:48.439 They might come out with the Trump sneakers on the 1:35:48.520 --> 1:35:54.360 game entirely those for Gildgas Alexander for ok s Oh, No, 1:35:54.840 --> 1:35:56.800 he's not. I'm going low off for Gildge. Yeah, I 1:35:56.880 --> 1:35:59.479 say higher, I say higher. He's a kid and they 1:35:59.560 --> 1:36:03.799 let him fifty times if he wants. I'm gonna okay. 1:36:03.880 --> 1:36:07.280 See in New York in Madison Square Garden, Drink, Champs, Army, 1:36:07.320 --> 1:36:09.320 don't forget to download on the doll Fantasy ad. 1:36:09.720 --> 1:36:11.840 Use the code drink Champs, Drink or Champs. 1:36:12.080 --> 1:36:12.400 Let's go. 1:36:25.600 --> 1:36:36.040 Jada kiss or push your T kiss kiss okay? Illmatic 1:36:36.360 --> 1:36:45.880 or reasonable doubt, illmatic ghetto boys or U GK Yeah 1:36:46.280 --> 1:36:51.280 yeah drink U yeah, okay? All right? Cool solo oh 1:36:51.760 --> 1:37:01.759 shots straight out of Compton or niggas for life, straight 1:37:01.800 --> 1:37:14.200 out of competent Styles, p or Rick Ross, Damn Ross, 1:37:15.640 --> 1:37:17.040 eminem or Busta Robs. 1:37:17.960 --> 1:37:24.120 Uh yeah you my one. Don't get you on them now. 1:37:24.120 --> 1:37:28.160 Okay, all right cool Jamie, where you at you? Yeah? 1:37:28.200 --> 1:37:29.200 We wait on you, Jamie. 1:37:31.400 --> 1:37:37.960 Were we at? Yeah? Both of those guys. It is 1:37:38.120 --> 1:37:38.719 my guys. 1:37:38.920 --> 1:37:42.840 Yeah, okay, so we we we we owe one shot? 1:37:42.880 --> 1:37:44.280 You got your shot? Oh I don't got a shot? 1:37:45.479 --> 1:37:47.680 You got a shot too? Yeah, how I'm the only 1:37:47.720 --> 1:37:49.120 one whatever. I mean, I'm pouring my own. 1:37:49.200 --> 1:37:59.840 So okay, yeah, let me take myns. Thank you? Where 1:37:59.840 --> 1:38:00.360 we Yeah? Now? 1:38:01.439 --> 1:38:03.439 Yeah, DJ Quicker battle Cap. 1:38:04.800 --> 1:38:07.800 Damn bro like hm hm and fuck this ship. 1:38:10.439 --> 1:38:13.800 I love I love that. We're almost not done. I 1:38:13.920 --> 1:38:20.639 love that. I love that DJ Battle Quick battle Cap 1:38:21.479 --> 1:38:25.120 battle Quicker battle quick Like. I like that. I like 1:38:25.240 --> 1:38:32.800 that both. Yeah yeah good the next one. I want 1:38:32.800 --> 1:38:37.200 to switch this one up. Okay, Lady of Rage now 1:38:37.280 --> 1:38:39.920 this is Lady of Rage of remy ma Rage. 1:38:40.280 --> 1:38:40.960 I mean, I got it. 1:38:42.000 --> 1:38:45.320 I was gonna say, just out of respect, passing boss, 1:38:45.760 --> 1:38:47.080 you know, rest in peace to Boston. 1:38:47.920 --> 1:38:50.519 Well boss, I was gonna say boss because she just 1:38:50.560 --> 1:38:51.320 passed away. 1:38:51.120 --> 1:38:53.080 And he was in Dallas. Forward love her. 1:38:53.360 --> 1:38:55.400 She's from Detroit. Ell Man she was ill. 1:38:57.000 --> 1:39:01.320 Somebody just sent me up a screen shot. 1:39:03.600 --> 1:39:06.280 A few days ago off an album that she never released. 1:39:08.160 --> 1:39:10.479 Her album cover was a was a duplicate of my 1:39:10.600 --> 1:39:11.160 album cover. 1:39:11.320 --> 1:39:14.479 Oh wow. She was definitely influenced by everything y'all were doing. 1:39:15.320 --> 1:39:19.000 You could see that. Uh, Carris want to rock him? 1:39:19.600 --> 1:39:23.679 Ah, man, come on now, and I love Chris Love. 1:39:24.080 --> 1:39:27.240 That means you're saying, come on, bro, he's my god 1:39:27.520 --> 1:39:30.040 because because you kind of didn't curse, like rock him, 1:39:30.200 --> 1:39:30.840 that's my god? 1:39:30.960 --> 1:39:31.080 Bro? 1:39:31.400 --> 1:39:32.960 Is that the reason why you didn't curse was to 1:39:33.040 --> 1:39:33.759 rock him? Okay? 1:39:34.040 --> 1:39:37.880 Bro, however good I got to be, it's because I 1:39:38.040 --> 1:39:40.120 was trying to be as good as rock him. 1:39:40.320 --> 1:39:40.920 Was wow. 1:39:42.479 --> 1:39:46.320 No, he said he picked the game you should drink 1:39:46.360 --> 1:39:54.000 for making later slick record Biggie her Dog slick Ricord, Biggie. 1:39:55.680 --> 1:39:55.840 Man. 1:39:55.920 --> 1:39:58.559 That's man, y'all gotta drink on that one. Cut ship 1:40:00.000 --> 1:40:03.960 because I can't say nobody ever big here, but. 1:40:04.040 --> 1:40:05.960 I said, oh, how much respect you have a bigger's 1:40:06.000 --> 1:40:06.280 though I. 1:40:06.280 --> 1:40:07.679 Can't say nobody ever slick. 1:40:08.400 --> 1:40:13.439 I respect that like that from my my humble opinion. 1:40:13.560 --> 1:40:20.479 Bro, there's only two people that that have ever touched 1:40:20.520 --> 1:40:24.640 the microphone to me and created a street where there 1:40:24.720 --> 1:40:29.320 was no street, and the first guy was well shipped. 1:40:29.320 --> 1:40:30.240 They was the same time. 1:40:30.400 --> 1:40:34.479 It was slick Rick and rock Him. Before those guys came, 1:40:34.680 --> 1:40:40.320 everything was syncopated in one way. The floors were all similar. 1:40:40.880 --> 1:40:43.280 Then rock Him took that shit and bented around the 1:40:43.320 --> 1:40:47.599 corner and and slick Rick came and did some ship 1:40:47.760 --> 1:40:51.760 that only he could do and then started trying to 1:40:51.840 --> 1:40:54.439 do do it the way he was doing it. But 1:40:54.760 --> 1:40:58.000 but man, I yeah, those those two guys are my 1:40:58.240 --> 1:40:59.360 rushmore guys for me. 1:41:00.400 --> 1:41:05.800 I agree, Big Daddy Kane or El Cool j mm hmm. 1:41:08.880 --> 1:41:10.680 Yeah, Now I'm gone take it on. 1:41:12.720 --> 1:41:13.679 Drinking drinking. 1:41:13.760 --> 1:41:16.519 Yeah, you got to drink it because I was a 1:41:17.479 --> 1:41:21.519 uh Big Daddy Kane who was a great friend. And 1:41:21.640 --> 1:41:23.040 I got a story about cool ja. 1:41:23.760 --> 1:41:25.120 Okay, let's let's hear him both. 1:41:26.080 --> 1:41:31.479 Please. Well, when I was, uh, you've seen this in 1:41:31.560 --> 1:41:33.080 the movie, you just didn't show up. 1:41:33.280 --> 1:41:33.599 Okay. 1:41:33.840 --> 1:41:38.639 When when I did the show that my dad slept 1:41:38.680 --> 1:41:39.920 to the to the show and. 1:41:40.160 --> 1:41:43.120 He left, yeah because he was fucked up. Yeah yeah, okay. 1:41:43.439 --> 1:41:46.320 Caine was on that show. Oh yeah, I didn't see that. 1:41:48.400 --> 1:41:50.599 He came and sat with me and he's like, man, 1:41:50.680 --> 1:41:53.080 I know this is a hard time for you in 1:41:53.120 --> 1:41:56.559 the bast paper like he gave me the ultiml who. 1:41:56.600 --> 1:41:58.240 Was that that was your first show since he's losing 1:41:58.280 --> 1:42:00.240 your boy? Yuh? And then that was your first I'm 1:42:00.280 --> 1:42:02.040 back on stage? Okay continue And I. 1:42:02.040 --> 1:42:06.439 Only did that once wow, because I realized trying that ship. 1:42:06.240 --> 1:42:08.880 I can't do this but you know, and why because 1:42:08.920 --> 1:42:11.560 because you were drunk or because of it, I was 1:42:12.120 --> 1:42:13.840 heard you were exerting yourself too much. 1:42:15.720 --> 1:42:19.200 It was no, I was live singing. Oh, it wasn't that. 1:42:19.360 --> 1:42:21.759 It wasn't the other part that heard it was the insign. 1:42:21.960 --> 1:42:23.960 Yeah, you just didn't feel it. I heard you say 1:42:24.000 --> 1:42:26.439 you are real, MC, You're real. Go on bro, yeah 1:42:26.479 --> 1:42:28.639 he's track over there. 1:42:29.360 --> 1:42:32.280 Bron used to say, we don't use that. It's this 1:42:32.560 --> 1:42:33.160 or that you know what? 1:42:33.680 --> 1:42:34.600 Right, you know? 1:42:34.920 --> 1:42:38.120 And so they talked me into it because the record 1:42:38.200 --> 1:42:41.040 that just took off and it was you know, but 1:42:41.160 --> 1:42:44.200 I was like, I can't do it. But and my dad, 1:42:45.280 --> 1:42:47.240 who had never seen me rap before. 1:42:47.160 --> 1:42:49.320 That was his first time. So I didn't know that part. 1:42:49.520 --> 1:42:51.760 I thought that was his first time walking out. 1:42:52.200 --> 1:42:52.559 We didn't. 1:42:52.560 --> 1:42:55.920 We didn't have one of those relationships. He never he 1:42:56.040 --> 1:42:57.120 never even knew what? 1:42:57.720 --> 1:43:00.080 But what record is this? That your what record had came. 1:43:00.080 --> 1:43:03.080 Mouth of mind? No, I do it better. 1:43:03.120 --> 1:43:07.200 I just came out really so this is what ninety 1:43:07.280 --> 1:43:07.800 what or. 1:43:07.920 --> 1:43:10.440 Eighty eighty nine, ninety eight, eighty ninety. 1:43:10.520 --> 1:43:12.080 Nine, it was New Year's Wow. 1:43:12.880 --> 1:43:16.160 Ninety The record came out of August the first. The 1:43:16.280 --> 1:43:20.200 rec happens November the eleventh, Wow. And I'm doing that 1:43:20.320 --> 1:43:21.960 show on January the first. 1:43:22.280 --> 1:43:23.000 That's crazy. 1:43:23.200 --> 1:43:29.639 So eleven eleven, bro, All right, well we're not asking 1:43:29.640 --> 1:43:37.559 everybody's day. Everybody's apart. That's what's so dope about. Everyone 1:43:37.600 --> 1:43:41.439 feels at his fucking story. That's what's so dope. I 1:43:41.520 --> 1:43:44.240 can't even be married, like we just started shooting up 1:43:45.520 --> 1:43:48.200 and ship I was going on this day. I swear 1:43:48.200 --> 1:43:49.559 to god, I can't even mad at them. 1:43:49.640 --> 1:44:02.400 Oh oh yeah, Big Pun or Big Al radio podcast podcast. 1:44:03.760 --> 1:44:08.400 Rather be loved or feared loved me too, Drake or 1:44:08.560 --> 1:44:10.920 Wayne Wayne. 1:44:12.280 --> 1:44:13.400 Primo or Pete. 1:44:13.240 --> 1:44:21.519 Rock mm hmm yeah, let's come and get this money. Okay, 1:44:22.320 --> 1:44:23.240 be All is my guy. 1:44:24.320 --> 1:44:29.559 We fight every year, really, prim Rock fight every year. 1:44:29.439 --> 1:44:33.120 Every football season. You know he's a Giants fan. 1:44:33.439 --> 1:44:38.880 You are stealers, that's right, right, that's right, that's right. 1:44:41.040 --> 1:44:48.320 You talk about Yeah, that's dope. Yeah, they got ahold 1:44:48.400 --> 1:44:52.560 of they got a nice little thing. And and of 1:44:52.680 --> 1:44:53.960 course the Cowboys is the. 1:44:54.000 --> 1:44:57.840 Ship, yes, the hat. 1:44:58.680 --> 1:45:02.240 No, I'm definitely a cowboy cowboy head. 1:45:02.400 --> 1:45:04.120 Bro, who who you're riding with? 1:45:04.760 --> 1:45:09.320 Ride with the Jets? Okay, we haven't right with the Jets. 1:45:09.360 --> 1:45:09.479 Bro. 1:45:11.400 --> 1:45:16.680 The Jets don't even win the Jets. That's why it's 1:45:16.760 --> 1:45:19.599 hard being like. By the way, let me just say something. 1:45:20.160 --> 1:45:23.439 I haven't watched the next game this whole season. You 1:45:23.520 --> 1:45:25.120 know what, I think you're a bad luck. I think 1:45:25.120 --> 1:45:25.800 I'm bad luck. 1:45:26.000 --> 1:45:26.240 Wow. 1:45:26.400 --> 1:45:28.800 I think every time I watch the next they start losing. 1:45:29.160 --> 1:45:33.400 So do you watch it the day after? No, I 1:45:33.640 --> 1:45:35.559 just I've been trying to stay out the season. We're 1:45:35.680 --> 1:45:39.920 doing great. We're doing great. Last year, got a rent 1:45:39.920 --> 1:45:45.000 in the streak. I started watching it's over. So I 1:45:45.120 --> 1:45:48.000 actually didn't want to say this publicly, but I actually 1:45:48.080 --> 1:45:50.840 think it is. I think I'm the Jinks. So I 1:45:51.000 --> 1:45:54.360 haven't watched this year. Hopefully we can make it somewhere. 1:45:54.479 --> 1:45:54.519 No. 1:45:54.640 --> 1:45:57.960 No, they got a great little young squad, the ball 1:45:58.080 --> 1:46:03.519 us down out there and Brunt and a great addition, 1:46:05.200 --> 1:46:07.759 maybe a piece of two away from being. 1:46:07.720 --> 1:46:09.320 Relevant, right, you know what I mean? 1:46:09.439 --> 1:46:12.680 And we need like a definitive star. Yeah, yeah, need 1:46:12.960 --> 1:46:13.439 a star. 1:46:13.720 --> 1:46:15.840 Yeah that's dry. 1:46:15.840 --> 1:46:17.160 Ain't gonna lie. I think they should put me in. 1:46:17.720 --> 1:46:20.320 I don't think so. I'm just being honest, don't be 1:46:22.280 --> 1:46:24.920 I'm I'm hit him with the funky chicken. You might 1:46:24.960 --> 1:46:26.519 as well just go to the Big three, go to 1:46:26.600 --> 1:46:28.200 the Big three. I can go to the Big three. 1:46:28.720 --> 1:46:29.639 I go to the Big Three. 1:46:29.880 --> 1:46:36.000 I'm like, uh, Jets guy like kind of a. 1:46:37.479 --> 1:46:41.640 Uh, not the Yankees, but Matt's that's that's kind of 1:46:41.680 --> 1:46:42.679 a Mets guy. 1:46:43.200 --> 1:46:45.880 Just because they they never think they're gonna win, you 1:46:45.960 --> 1:46:46.320 know what I mean. 1:46:46.439 --> 1:46:47.639 So he like the underdog. 1:46:47.840 --> 1:46:50.680 Yeah, you know I'm an underdog guy. I mean. 1:46:51.120 --> 1:46:54.439 And so I fuck with the with Aaron Rodgers and 1:46:54.600 --> 1:46:57.320 it's yes, because I thought he gave him a legitimate 1:46:57.439 --> 1:46:58.519 shot last year. 1:46:59.360 --> 1:47:03.360 He didn't give Yeah, I felt like that was that 1:47:03.520 --> 1:47:06.200 was the doors. That's right, he went to the doors. 1:47:06.880 --> 1:47:07.719 He went to the doors. 1:47:07.800 --> 1:47:08.160 That's right. 1:47:08.320 --> 1:47:11.680 He got hurt. Twelve seconds is a jack, right. This 1:47:11.800 --> 1:47:13.960 nigger came in and was like, hey, I'm fucked up, 1:47:14.040 --> 1:47:15.920 you know, signed the contract and was like I he 1:47:16.080 --> 1:47:17.280 he's over this is it? 1:47:17.600 --> 1:47:18.040 Is it for me? 1:47:18.240 --> 1:47:19.720 He put on some Muslim over you and he was like, 1:47:19.760 --> 1:47:24.080 hey man, let me go break. Nigga had early get 1:47:24.120 --> 1:47:28.400 the fuck out of here. You fucked me up this season. 1:47:28.439 --> 1:47:30.479 I thought I bet it on you. I thought she 1:47:30.600 --> 1:47:33.160 was a good guy from Green Bay and what. 1:47:33.320 --> 1:47:36.320 They had the hell of a defense ship. He could 1:47:36.360 --> 1:47:38.639 have just stood up and did half a decent job. 1:47:38.920 --> 1:47:39.960 I could eat that division. 1:47:40.160 --> 1:47:42.880 Could it came in two games? This nigga was first 1:47:42.920 --> 1:47:46.320 because his name is this nigga got hurt in kindergarten. 1:47:47.960 --> 1:47:51.360 And this is why it's perfect time to download under 1:47:51.439 --> 1:47:57.519 the door drink Champs. That's right, all right? 1:47:58.160 --> 1:48:03.200 Uh wait, I got Phila or Theodora feel. I was 1:48:03.240 --> 1:48:08.240 hoping he was gonna say that, okay, yay, or for Ralph. 1:48:09.880 --> 1:48:16.360 That's a tough one we drinking because yeah, it's just cold. 1:48:16.520 --> 1:48:17.240 Any stories. 1:48:18.400 --> 1:48:22.320 I ain't got no ye stories, bro, I went on, I. 1:48:22.280 --> 1:48:24.000 Don't know why. I feel like there's a secret studio 1:48:24.080 --> 1:48:25.800 session with Dad. 1:48:25.960 --> 1:48:29.800 Was telling me about a session there where he came up. 1:48:29.920 --> 1:48:33.000 I think he was mixing his gospel record. He said, yeah, man, 1:48:33.080 --> 1:48:35.960 we was just mixing the record and he disappeared. I 1:48:36.000 --> 1:48:38.760 went upstairs, that there was sleep sleep in the bed. 1:48:38.880 --> 1:48:42.160 I was like, wow, that's crazy in the little guest 1:48:42.240 --> 1:48:45.080 house that he felt comfortable. 1:48:44.640 --> 1:48:46.519 To go up there and go up me just in 1:48:46.600 --> 1:48:53.400 another thing, cred, Yeah, that's uncomfortable. He did take his shoes. 1:48:55.240 --> 1:48:58.679 To drink jazz, hung out, took up his shoes, open 1:48:58.720 --> 1:48:59.480 the refrigerator. 1:49:01.439 --> 1:49:02.720 I never I never had a chance. 1:49:04.240 --> 1:49:06.479 You never had a chance. He's a nice guy. Did 1:49:06.560 --> 1:49:10.720 you meet for I have? Okay, okay, both both nice guys. Yes, 1:49:10.800 --> 1:49:11.439 both nice guys. 1:49:12.640 --> 1:49:16.200 A lot of respect for Pharrell. Bro. He's a super 1:49:16.400 --> 1:49:21.759 talented dude for his whole his whole ride. 1:49:22.280 --> 1:49:27.000 Yeah, so we're saying both right, Yeah, okay, so we 1:49:27.439 --> 1:49:28.920 said both. Yeah, he's saying both. 1:49:30.000 --> 1:49:30.920 Can't I can't take away? 1:49:30.960 --> 1:49:34.760 Man, get it together. I'm watching you, buddy, get the 1:49:34.800 --> 1:49:35.160 next one. 1:49:35.160 --> 1:49:42.120 Buddy's yeah, yeah, legend a little bit. 1:49:42.160 --> 1:49:46.320 That's a little bit. Okay, but yeah, but but but 1:49:46.439 --> 1:49:48.080 you notice we take we take a small show. 1:49:48.120 --> 1:49:48.280 We know. 1:49:48.520 --> 1:49:50.840 Yeah, because it's a lot of question. It's a long game. 1:49:51.560 --> 1:50:05.000 Miss let's see. Okay, I respect that sug Night or 1:50:05.040 --> 1:50:10.840 puff Daddy, sug Knight. Where did you stand with the 1:50:10.880 --> 1:50:12.760 East Coast, West Coast beef when it was going on. 1:50:13.240 --> 1:50:15.320 You know what I'm saying that was that was not good. 1:50:16.320 --> 1:50:18.440 But I just hate bullshit. 1:50:18.720 --> 1:50:20.640 Yeah, me too, you know what I mean? For what? 1:50:22.760 --> 1:50:27.240 And then the magazines and that's what really created it 1:50:29.280 --> 1:50:31.920 was people against people like Crew against Crew. It wasn't 1:50:32.000 --> 1:50:36.360 East Coast against West Coast, right, It was the magazines 1:50:36.400 --> 1:50:39.120 and the media that exacerbated and then made everybody, you know, 1:50:39.840 --> 1:50:42.360 Vibe particularly they were the first ones. 1:50:42.439 --> 1:50:45.040 Yeah, yeah, I believe they did a bad Boy cover 1:50:45.120 --> 1:50:46.920 and then they did a Death Ro cover right after 1:50:47.000 --> 1:50:49.600 each other, and it set set it off everything. I 1:50:49.680 --> 1:50:53.400 believe that's when in the time that they were saying 1:50:53.640 --> 1:50:57.720 that it was you, Dre and Shug. But then that cover, 1:50:58.240 --> 1:51:02.720 the actual Vibe cover like actually almost erased you and 1:51:02.920 --> 1:51:05.160 put Sugar in there. And they've had the three stars. 1:51:05.200 --> 1:51:07.920 It was Dre, Snoop and I forget who else was 1:51:07.960 --> 1:51:12.160 on that Vibe cover. There was four people, wasn't it, No, 1:51:12.439 --> 1:51:15.840 it was three? Put was pocket? 1:51:16.240 --> 1:51:17.200 Yeah? 1:51:17.760 --> 1:51:20.479 Yeah, was that the time. I believe in the documentary 1:51:20.560 --> 1:51:25.320 you said, I think you alluded to it. You didn't 1:51:25.360 --> 1:51:27.400 have that power, but you didn't know it at that time. 1:51:28.080 --> 1:51:28.800 Was that something that. 1:51:31.560 --> 1:51:32.000 No, I was. 1:51:33.600 --> 1:51:35.240 That must have been a difficult time for you to 1:51:35.280 --> 1:51:35.599 be out. 1:51:35.680 --> 1:51:38.720 I was struggling in that time, you know. Okay, pro 1:51:38.800 --> 1:51:41.240 addiction is not easy, but you know what I mean, 1:51:41.640 --> 1:51:47.000 And I salute anybody they're gonna walk that path and 1:51:47.200 --> 1:51:50.680 stand back up because they take a lot out of you, bro, 1:51:50.800 --> 1:51:56.920 when you get lost. But I respect all of those guys. 1:51:57.000 --> 1:52:00.640 I'm not bitter. No, you don't want those guys. I 1:52:01.520 --> 1:52:03.400 wouldn't have changed anything. 1:52:03.760 --> 1:52:05.960 Wow, you know, because I've been in some places that's 1:52:06.439 --> 1:52:10.080 there's some really messed up stuff could have happened to me. 1:52:10.600 --> 1:52:13.000 It should wasn't there, you know what I mean. Wow, 1:52:13.439 --> 1:52:17.920 I've seen and there's a couple of stories where I 1:52:18.040 --> 1:52:19.600 was out there and they had to come get me, 1:52:19.880 --> 1:52:23.360 you know, and came in, you know with the hornt 1:52:23.439 --> 1:52:25.160 and then and then and then with the. 1:52:25.680 --> 1:52:28.799 You know, the Calvalry care bro, because I was wilding 1:52:28.880 --> 1:52:33.000 out out there. And uh so I got nothing more respect. 1:52:34.640 --> 1:52:37.360 For those guys that handled their business in ways that 1:52:37.479 --> 1:52:39.719 I wasn't ready to handle for myself. 1:52:40.680 --> 1:52:43.639 I forget, didn't you have Dazzle corrupt on the show. 1:52:43.800 --> 1:52:48.000 And one of them was like, fuck, sugar, you hear everything. 1:52:48.040 --> 1:52:49.280 But then, you know, what that's a human. 1:52:49.520 --> 1:52:51.439 A human is a good person and a human is 1:52:51.479 --> 1:52:53.800 a fucked up person, So it could be both are 1:52:53.840 --> 1:52:55.120 true at the same point. 1:52:55.920 --> 1:52:59.479 I don't I don't want no smoke with with Sugar 1:52:59.560 --> 1:53:03.559 Bear from it. And he's doing his podcast from yeah, 1:53:08.720 --> 1:53:11.080 and so I'm gonna stay out of his way because 1:53:11.120 --> 1:53:15.320 he got a itchy trigger finger, right and he don't care, 1:53:15.880 --> 1:53:17.680 you know what, I man, that's how you getting this 1:53:18.360 --> 1:53:20.479 his thing? Because I talked to him. 1:53:20.360 --> 1:53:23.599 A couple of times since he's been incarcerated in that place. 1:53:23.800 --> 1:53:27.479 Okay, hell y, you know like Ario did that a lot. 1:53:28.080 --> 1:53:30.960 I don't know how they get your number. Somebody will 1:53:31.000 --> 1:53:34.160 call you and say, want a high lessons you know, 1:53:34.760 --> 1:53:38.400 and hey Ario one of the high letchers and out 1:53:38.400 --> 1:53:39.439 of and. 1:53:41.080 --> 1:53:42.720 Yeah, clicking me. You know what. 1:53:43.560 --> 1:53:47.920 But Ario and I since since he since he's been 1:53:48.000 --> 1:53:52.840 back out, he and I've developed a real interesting relationship 1:53:52.840 --> 1:53:56.360 because he sees things the way I see things. As 1:53:56.400 --> 1:53:58.960 far as trying to go back into these hoods and 1:53:59.040 --> 1:53:59.920 get these young boys. 1:54:00.400 --> 1:54:01.760 It is right, you know what I mean? 1:54:02.040 --> 1:54:04.240 Why is Harryo being praised and Sugar not? 1:54:05.880 --> 1:54:09.799 But I don't know what what what is Harrio getting praised? 1:54:10.200 --> 1:54:10.560 I don't know. 1:54:10.680 --> 1:54:12.880 It just seems like like, you know, when you speak 1:54:13.160 --> 1:54:15.920 about the foundation of death Row. In the beginning of 1:54:16.040 --> 1:54:19.360 Death Row, it seems like people say, man, Harrio came 1:54:19.439 --> 1:54:22.960 in like and it was whatever, whatever. But people are 1:54:23.000 --> 1:54:25.640 not saying the same about Sugar, although I. 1:54:25.920 --> 1:54:29.120 Don't see people like even with you, like they'll say, 1:54:29.720 --> 1:54:31.799 like even I just broke up with Dazz and Corrupt. 1:54:31.840 --> 1:54:34.680 I forget which one was on which side dazzes against? 1:54:35.560 --> 1:54:40.360 And I believe was like stayed around the longest, and 1:54:40.440 --> 1:54:43.760 Corrupt was like, nah, I can't. He kept calling him, no, no, no, no, 1:54:43.920 --> 1:54:45.880 Dazz is del Mar, but he kept calling him. I 1:54:45.920 --> 1:54:46.920 think he called him Simon. 1:54:47.480 --> 1:54:53.040 Yeah, that his cold name, Simon, like Simon, Yeah, damn, 1:54:53.720 --> 1:54:54.720 that was his code name. 1:54:56.160 --> 1:54:58.600 It was Simon and Santa Claus. 1:55:00.120 --> 1:55:02.360 So Simon was the bad side and that was a 1:55:02.360 --> 1:55:02.840 good side. 1:55:04.200 --> 1:55:07.640 Either one of them is talking about the same guy. Uh, 1:55:08.280 --> 1:55:12.440 But sure it was a you know, he was a year. 1:55:12.400 --> 1:55:18.280 Is uh, a complicated human as many of us. 1:55:18.440 --> 1:55:22.560 Yeah, and he lived his life and we all have 1:55:22.720 --> 1:55:25.640 our past that we got to walk and and he's 1:55:25.680 --> 1:55:29.160 walking hispide. You know, I wouldn't wish wish that ship 1:55:29.280 --> 1:55:33.080 on nobody, you know, uh, because I had to. 1:55:33.320 --> 1:55:36.040 I had to sit down in that city that that 1:55:36.280 --> 1:55:38.640 was not me. I don't want no more parts of 1:55:38.720 --> 1:55:41.760 that ship. And I wouldn't wish that on nobody. But 1:55:42.640 --> 1:55:46.080 you know that's his path, uh, and I wish him 1:55:46.560 --> 1:55:47.280 the best. 1:55:48.160 --> 1:55:52.240 And hopefully you know what happened for Aarrio happened. 1:55:51.960 --> 1:55:58.920 Being over the uh partisy something let him see some Yeah, 1:55:59.240 --> 1:56:02.720 I believe. I believe Trump pardon Harry with the gold 1:56:02.760 --> 1:56:07.320 sneakers on. He didn't have to that part. Yeah, but 1:56:07.600 --> 1:56:10.480 but but that's like like damn, it's like kind of 1:56:10.600 --> 1:56:16.280 like mad like but he Trump pardoned little Wayne Harry 1:56:16.720 --> 1:56:21.520 President Kardiak black slave Fat. Joe's the White House and ship. 1:56:22.560 --> 1:56:24.240 In fact, Joe be tricking me and ship. I don't 1:56:24.240 --> 1:56:26.360 know whether to follow him some of the weeks or not. 1:56:28.240 --> 1:56:30.840 Trump sneaker next week he in the White House. I'm like, 1:56:30.920 --> 1:56:34.800 what are we doing? Text me about this ship. I 1:56:34.840 --> 1:56:37.000 don't know what we're doing. Joe, all right, I'll take 1:56:38.040 --> 1:56:40.160 take okay de bo m o p. 1:56:41.760 --> 1:56:42.320 Mom deep. 1:56:42.880 --> 1:56:45.919 I like that old eyes on me or life after Death. 1:56:47.960 --> 1:56:58.040 H m hm, damn, bro, I like it. Yeah, yeah, 1:56:58.240 --> 1:56:58.800 take a shot. 1:57:01.800 --> 1:57:10.200 Uh, Mike, Tyson or j Paul It is, said Jerry World, 1:57:11.680 --> 1:57:15.200 Jerry World, all right, man, we should do drunk on 1:57:15.280 --> 1:57:15.600 the side. 1:57:16.560 --> 1:57:16.920 I need you. 1:57:17.120 --> 1:57:17.920 I need to know where you're going. 1:57:18.040 --> 1:57:19.760 Now, we gotta call front you do the drink champs 1:57:19.800 --> 1:57:22.640 on the sidelines. Yes, yes, I need you to come 1:57:22.680 --> 1:57:24.960 down there anyway. Let me let me introduce you to 1:57:25.160 --> 1:57:27.640 my folks of Cadillac. Go ahead, so I can deliver 1:57:27.720 --> 1:57:28.440 you want to use. 1:57:28.840 --> 1:57:33.560 Deliver one of those Oh god, yes, six hundred escalade. 1:57:36.680 --> 1:57:40.720 Yeah, I get the cowboy hat and everything spurs on 1:57:40.760 --> 1:57:47.600 my I am with it, spurs of my boost man escalat. 1:57:47.720 --> 1:57:50.880 Okay, let's go, let's go. We had God damn God, 1:57:50.960 --> 1:57:52.920 damn shout out to Cadillac man. Yeah. 1:57:53.000 --> 1:57:55.800 Man, So who will we picking Mike Tyson? 1:57:56.120 --> 1:58:00.280 Absolutely, We're gonna imagine that I'm picking out. I'm gonna 1:58:00.280 --> 1:58:03.640 see Mike somewhere. You think I'm gonna pick somebody else? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:58:03.640 --> 1:58:05.800 I'm gonna be like, well you put the money out. 1:58:06.160 --> 1:58:06.320 Yeah. 1:58:06.360 --> 1:58:09.800 I mean you're watching him train. It's crazy. You gonna 1:58:09.800 --> 1:58:12.680 eat gonna lie. I want him to do that, no 1:58:12.840 --> 1:58:16.600 ring what the way he's training, you know, think he's 1:58:16.640 --> 1:58:19.120 going to I would like for him to do it. Man, 1:58:19.240 --> 1:58:20.400 loove that he don't do it. 1:58:20.480 --> 1:58:23.600 Man, you just talked about biden Age is a motherfucker 1:58:23.720 --> 1:58:24.960 mine like them. 1:58:26.360 --> 1:58:29.480 Yeah, but Tyson is a different type of person because 1:58:29.520 --> 1:58:31.840 he's he said it explicitly that when he gets in 1:58:31.920 --> 1:58:34.480 the ring, he transforms into a monster. 1:58:34.800 --> 1:58:37.520 And I believe that. I truly believe I can't become 1:58:37.600 --> 1:58:39.680 the beast in the ring. I can't believe him. 1:58:39.560 --> 1:58:42.360 Against this Jake Paul Kidd, because I've seen that Jake 1:58:42.440 --> 1:58:44.480 Paul Kidd lay some dudes out. 1:58:45.000 --> 1:58:46.360 Seemed like that wasn't fair. 1:58:46.920 --> 1:58:49.600 I think Tyson, but it's that's not the same Tyson 1:58:49.640 --> 1:58:52.360 that we grew up on. But he's said, man, but 1:58:54.600 --> 1:58:57.240 you're still there. He's still there and his and he 1:58:57.320 --> 1:58:58.080 still got strength. 1:58:58.160 --> 1:58:59.560 No, he don't want no head gear. 1:59:00.880 --> 1:59:03.680 I mean they've been saying rumors about headgear, but I 1:59:03.680 --> 1:59:07.160 don't think it's no. There's rumors that they're gonna have rules, 1:59:07.200 --> 1:59:09.160 but I don't think Tyson would agree to that, And 1:59:09.160 --> 1:59:10.040 I don't even think Jake. 1:59:09.880 --> 1:59:10.800 Paul would want to agree to that. 1:59:10.880 --> 1:59:11.880 Yeah, man, come on, within it. 1:59:13.080 --> 1:59:14.320 Jay might as well just do it all the way 1:59:14.400 --> 1:59:17.960 right or not do it at all. I think you 1:59:18.000 --> 1:59:30.160 should fight them next you, Tyson would laughing three seconds. 1:59:34.200 --> 1:59:37.040 I really want to see this. Not only that, I 1:59:37.120 --> 1:59:42.680 facetimeed Mike. Uh well first friends, you hate me, shout 1:59:42.680 --> 1:59:45.600 out to frenchie man if Mike, one of them talk 1:59:45.640 --> 1:59:48.640 to you, so of course be able to out that 1:59:49.080 --> 1:59:55.680 FaceTime them were laughing whatever. Two days later they say, hey, announcement. 1:59:55.760 --> 1:59:59.200 So I hit them back. I was like, yeah, yeah, 1:59:59.200 --> 2:00:02.160 I'm really doing this. They say, yes, we're really doing it. 2:00:02.920 --> 2:00:05.400 Immediately I said, Yo, I'm gonna go come to training camp. 2:00:06.200 --> 2:00:09.480 So next week when I come back from Paris, I'm 2:00:09.520 --> 2:00:15.680 going to I'm going I told you this and I'm 2:00:15.680 --> 2:00:17.320 gonna hear French. I'm gonna say, you see if we 2:00:17.360 --> 2:00:20.160 could do the side. Oh yeah, I didn't even think 2:00:20.240 --> 2:00:23.080 of like me, I actually wanted to, Like that's like 2:00:23.240 --> 2:00:26.000 my dream is to see somebody in training camp like 2:00:26.840 --> 2:00:30.360 they do like me drinking or what I was like, 2:00:30.560 --> 2:00:32.880 but like I knocked this ship the funk out, like 2:00:32.960 --> 2:00:34.880 when I want to be a part of something. So 2:00:34.960 --> 2:00:37.720 I wanted to I'm going to Vegas. I believe that 2:00:37.840 --> 2:00:40.680 you said this in Dallas to believe the training camp 2:00:40.760 --> 2:00:42.600 he's training in Vegas. Yeah, so I want to go 2:00:42.760 --> 2:00:45.480 there and I want to you know, that's the fucking fun. 2:00:46.760 --> 2:00:54.480 That's just crazy because although this is uh what is 2:00:54.560 --> 2:01:00.640 the sparrings is considered sparring, correct, there get a spar 2:01:02.400 --> 2:01:05.000 come on, man, Yeah, but they're really fighting. 2:01:05.160 --> 2:01:08.360 But it's caused baring because right because it's they can't 2:01:08.360 --> 2:01:12.720 get sationed by it because he's not a sanction boxer neither. 2:01:13.560 --> 2:01:17.640 He's past the age, is right. But believe this is 2:01:17.680 --> 2:01:21.040 still history. It is, man, I believe he is still history. 2:01:21.120 --> 2:01:24.680 Generational fight for whatever it's worth. And I think it's dope. 2:01:25.240 --> 2:01:26.800 I don't want them to touch that boy. 2:01:27.360 --> 2:01:31.360 I want I'm knocking. I'm sorry, j Paul, I might 2:01:31.400 --> 2:01:33.560 see you in a restaurant and ship. I got a 2:01:33.640 --> 2:01:35.520 lot of respect for Jake Paul. I think you do. 2:01:36.000 --> 2:01:38.200 But I think that if he's smart, he's training to 2:01:38.280 --> 2:01:42.640 stay away from Mike Tyson's punches. Well, I think he's 2:01:42.760 --> 2:01:45.760 actually gonna try to He's gonna lean in and he's 2:01:45.760 --> 2:01:46.560 gonna try to hurt Mike. 2:01:46.680 --> 2:01:50.000 Yeah, I think he's going That's the only thing you 2:01:50.040 --> 2:01:52.280 could train for because if he gets hit by one 2:01:52.320 --> 2:01:54.640 of those punches, until he gets hit by one of 2:01:54.680 --> 2:01:57.000 the practice that he'll learn. I don't know. I think 2:01:57.240 --> 2:01:58.680 I think he's going to actually. 2:01:58.720 --> 2:02:00.840 Say Mike Tyson punch out on the video game. 2:02:02.120 --> 2:02:04.280 Think that he's gonna try. I think I think j 2:02:04.480 --> 2:02:08.840 Paul much respect for the sport that he's not gonna 2:02:09.120 --> 2:02:11.560 duck it. No, but the sport. No, that's not that's 2:02:11.600 --> 2:02:13.839 not right the sport. Actually look a look at Mayweather. 2:02:14.000 --> 2:02:16.600 You you know, you have a strategy. Sometimes you stay 2:02:16.600 --> 2:02:18.400 away from the person you're coming at the right time. 2:02:19.040 --> 2:02:21.080 That's why it be boring fights sometimes and they went 2:02:21.160 --> 2:02:23.880 on technicalities or they went on this, they go all 2:02:23.920 --> 2:02:26.280 the round. I've never seen a bor in Mayweather fight. Sir, 2:02:26.640 --> 2:02:28.400 he's not. I'm saying that some boy. 2:02:28.960 --> 2:02:30.760 He's not gonna be able to stay away from from. 2:02:30.800 --> 2:02:32.200 You going have to come on with it when you 2:02:32.280 --> 2:02:32.800 get in there. 2:02:33.240 --> 2:02:36.560 I mean, don't bring it to Tyson. Gonna bring it 2:02:36.600 --> 2:02:39.320 to a fighters that's been successful against Tyson, hold it, 2:02:39.520 --> 2:02:43.440 holy Field and Lennie Flewid aggressive. Yeah, try to run 2:02:43.520 --> 2:02:45.320 from those they get right. 2:02:45.960 --> 2:02:46.840 I hear you, I hear you. 2:02:47.160 --> 2:02:49.280 But I don't, man, I don't see Jake Park going 2:02:49.320 --> 2:02:52.320 toe to toe of them. I mean, be interesting and 2:02:52.400 --> 2:02:54.520 we want to see it. Run he gonna get hit. 2:02:56.600 --> 2:02:58.640 It's a different beast man than he's ever I think 2:02:58.720 --> 2:03:02.760 ever fought. I don't think he's fought someone like Tyson. 2:03:03.920 --> 2:03:05.320 I don't care the age and none of that. 2:03:05.480 --> 2:03:10.920 Man, Okay, let's move on, no change m Yeah, I 2:03:10.920 --> 2:03:12.600 ain't gonna lie. That's the only time I seen like 2:03:12.760 --> 2:03:15.320 U f N like get dugged out Tyson. He gave 2:03:15.400 --> 2:03:19.400 Tyson a joints and grabbed the joint he pulled it out. 2:03:19.440 --> 2:03:22.480 He gave e f N back and even oh yeah, 2:03:22.920 --> 2:03:26.240 he tried the funk out of me. He made me take. 2:03:32.160 --> 2:03:32.560 I never. 2:03:35.560 --> 2:03:37.120 Was like, yeah, you taking this true. I'm telling you 2:03:37.280 --> 2:03:42.120 right now. You know it's true. You were his presence. 2:03:42.240 --> 2:03:45.600 You know, I don't tell you I was. I was 2:03:45.640 --> 2:03:49.480 in Dubai. I took the picture and woke apart. So 2:03:49.520 --> 2:03:52.320 I was like Tyson and he was just walking and 2:03:52.560 --> 2:03:55.000 I knew like he didn't know it was me. So 2:03:55.040 --> 2:03:56.960 I was like he was nory. So he turned around 2:03:57.960 --> 2:03:59.440 and then he grabbed his friend. 2:04:00.120 --> 2:04:11.560 Was so sorry, literally, and I'm looking like, oh ship, 2:04:11.640 --> 2:04:13.440 I do not want Mike to touch me like that. 2:04:13.920 --> 2:04:17.400 So he's like he crapam. He doesn't know how strong 2:04:17.560 --> 2:04:21.960 he is. His friend was little. He's like, hey, man, 2:04:22.080 --> 2:04:23.680 once we told about last night. He's like, yeah, we 2:04:23.760 --> 2:04:27.160 talked much. And I'm looking at him like ship, let 2:04:27.240 --> 2:04:28.280 me let him get him out. 2:04:29.920 --> 2:04:31.840 You know, me and Charlie the time the first time 2:04:31.880 --> 2:04:33.600 with the blunk, we took a picture of him. He's 2:04:33.600 --> 2:04:36.320 eating an apple. I've never seen the most aggressive picture 2:04:36.360 --> 2:04:37.200 of somebody eating apple. 2:04:37.200 --> 2:04:40.320 He's like, Yo, what the fuck? Man? What the fun? 2:04:40.480 --> 2:04:42.640 And this is the nice Tyson we're talking about nice. 2:04:42.840 --> 2:04:45.280 This is the nice version of Tyson. This is the 2:04:45.440 --> 2:04:47.320 last question. A quick time and slim and we get 2:04:47.400 --> 2:04:49.680 right back to the interview. And this is me and 2:04:49.760 --> 2:04:53.040 e FN's favorite question to us, A most important question. 2:04:53.760 --> 2:04:55.200 And I'm not going to lead the witness. I'm not 2:04:55.240 --> 2:05:00.920 gonna say that witness loyalty or respect mm hmm. 2:05:03.880 --> 2:05:12.080 Respect. M. I want to explain why, because loyalty is 2:05:12.160 --> 2:05:15.200 a fickle kind of thing, depending on. 2:05:16.760 --> 2:05:21.720 What's what's on the table, you know. But respect, if 2:05:21.720 --> 2:05:30.480 it's real, it ain't going nowhere, you know. And I 2:05:30.520 --> 2:05:32.560 don't want you to be loyal to me, goddamn. And 2:05:32.640 --> 2:05:36.720 I want you to do the right thing, you know. M. 2:05:37.320 --> 2:05:39.000 I want that respect because. 2:05:38.760 --> 2:05:42.840 I'm going because my thing is why wouldn't you just 2:05:42.920 --> 2:05:43.400 say both. 2:05:43.720 --> 2:05:45.480 A lot of people don't say both, and they want 2:05:45.520 --> 2:05:47.600 to give an explanation as to why not saying both. 2:05:54.200 --> 2:05:56.400 But I like the reason why you said. I like that, 2:05:56.760 --> 2:06:01.480 and in fact, you know, and I want to say 2:06:01.520 --> 2:06:08.600 this will all love and respect. It's like I look 2:06:08.600 --> 2:06:10.320 at you as one of the most loyalist people. 2:06:10.520 --> 2:06:11.920 Oh yeah, that's what. 2:06:12.120 --> 2:06:18.520 That's what he just said. It's because like I didn't 2:06:18.560 --> 2:06:22.000 I didn't just watch the documentary. I became the documentary. 2:06:24.160 --> 2:06:24.920 No, I really did. 2:06:25.160 --> 2:06:27.720 It really did, like I really felt a part of it. 2:06:28.960 --> 2:06:31.560 I cried. I told you, my barber is sitting there 2:06:31.680 --> 2:06:34.760 like he's cutting this side of my ship, and I 2:06:34.840 --> 2:06:37.400 can't even feel it. I'm so numb because I'm so 2:06:37.720 --> 2:06:41.440 I can't turn away. So I'm I'm watching it and 2:06:41.560 --> 2:06:43.640 I can't feel my tears. I can feel him like, 2:06:43.720 --> 2:06:46.840 oh shit, He's like, where is this white ship coming from? 2:06:47.320 --> 2:06:49.200 And I'm just like cause I'm you know, I'm crying 2:06:49.240 --> 2:06:49.680 like a man. 2:06:51.200 --> 2:06:51.680 I'm not like. 2:06:55.280 --> 2:06:59.480 Holy ship. And it was like times in my life. 2:06:59.680 --> 2:07:01.160 I think you said it in the lyric. You was 2:07:01.240 --> 2:07:05.040 like like I tried to drown myself and I couldn't 2:07:05.040 --> 2:07:07.280 even do that right, And I was just saying, what 2:07:07.520 --> 2:07:11.000 the fuck? And I'm like, here goes a guy that 2:07:11.160 --> 2:07:15.080 I look up to. I can't see this darkness in 2:07:15.240 --> 2:07:19.360 you because I never seen the darkness in you. Is 2:07:19.440 --> 2:07:24.960 because he was always been presented as a hero. You 2:07:25.080 --> 2:07:28.520 have never been presented to the vulnerable guy that you're 2:07:28.600 --> 2:07:32.200 saying about yourself. And I had to hear that from you. 2:07:33.000 --> 2:07:36.160 If you wanted to said that, I would have never Right, 2:07:37.360 --> 2:07:38.720 That's one of them. 2:07:39.960 --> 2:07:46.280 From my perspective, one of the great ways I was 2:07:46.360 --> 2:07:54.760 able to tell the story. And loyalty plays a big 2:07:54.840 --> 2:07:57.120 part of this because I know where all the bones set. 2:07:58.120 --> 2:08:03.120 I know where they are all at. I've seen, Yeah, 2:08:03.960 --> 2:08:07.520 how did he well? You know, but that's not my place, 2:08:08.040 --> 2:08:12.480 you know what I mean. Whether it's hear him or 2:08:12.600 --> 2:08:15.800 him or them, or how today? 2:08:16.000 --> 2:08:16.920 Or what did you're winning? 2:08:18.120 --> 2:08:21.680 You know, that's that's the universe's tale, the tale it's 2:08:21.760 --> 2:08:28.080 my mind because I'm about this positive movement ward take 2:08:28.120 --> 2:08:31.600 those lessons I learned from those men and using to 2:08:31.680 --> 2:08:36.320 teach my sons. You know, never let what happened to 2:08:36.360 --> 2:08:39.440 me will never happen to my sons because they'll know 2:08:39.840 --> 2:08:41.440 who they are when. 2:08:41.320 --> 2:08:48.240 They meet these guys. Uh, this ring d o c ring. 2:08:52.040 --> 2:08:56.960 When I wrote to his easiest first record, we was 2:08:57.000 --> 2:08:58.960 working on the n w A record, were working on 2:08:59.320 --> 2:09:03.560 Straight out of Coring. Easiest record is goal by now. 2:09:03.640 --> 2:09:05.520 And they didn't get ready to put their record out. 2:09:06.200 --> 2:09:08.600 They going out and buying jewelry and all of these, 2:09:08.680 --> 2:09:10.240 the dookie ropes and all of this shit. 2:09:10.880 --> 2:09:13.200 I did all this work. I'm looking for work. My 2:09:13.360 --> 2:09:14.080 dookie rope at. 2:09:14.800 --> 2:09:18.240 I want to get Dougie roped out too, dude, and 2:09:18.360 --> 2:09:22.160 the easy said whatever you want, he said, give me 2:09:22.240 --> 2:09:23.960 the publishing to them songs you wrote. 2:09:24.760 --> 2:09:25.600 Now, whatever you want? 2:09:25.840 --> 2:09:26.360 Who said that? 2:09:28.560 --> 2:09:32.280 And I'm like, okay, I want that and that and 2:09:32.760 --> 2:09:35.960 one of it. It was just this ring and and 2:09:36.400 --> 2:09:40.440 on my album cover there's a chain with doctor and 2:09:40.560 --> 2:09:41.480 he bought me those. 2:09:41.480 --> 2:09:45.280 Those gifts wow, And it was a gifts public. 2:09:45.240 --> 2:09:48.240 Right gave him about a million dollars and he gave 2:09:48.320 --> 2:09:52.120 me three thousand dollars worth for stuff. Now, when I 2:09:52.280 --> 2:09:55.000 found out what had happened, I had already had the 2:09:55.080 --> 2:09:58.680 wreck and I'm starting out to play stuff and I'm 2:09:58.720 --> 2:10:00.440 wanting to work, and I find. 2:10:00.280 --> 2:10:04.440 That stuff out, I was like I was destroyed. It 2:10:04.560 --> 2:10:05.840 was one of the things that made. 2:10:05.720 --> 2:10:08.080 Me go start talking to drag about blah blah blah. 2:10:08.560 --> 2:10:11.400 Was finding that stuff out. I got so, uh said, 2:10:11.440 --> 2:10:14.280 I took this ring out already. You know, when you 2:10:14.360 --> 2:10:17.440 go out on the road and you're performing and you 2:10:17.600 --> 2:10:20.840 think motherfuckers out there respect you. You got that chain 2:10:20.920 --> 2:10:25.280 on and you lean over into that stay change. Yeah, lot, 2:10:25.440 --> 2:10:28.040 it was out there, but I had the ring still, 2:10:29.280 --> 2:10:34.000 and I was dating this broad and I was so 2:10:35.040 --> 2:10:38.440 just destroyed that I gave her this ring, said I 2:10:38.480 --> 2:10:41.640 don't even want to be I don't want no part 2:10:41.680 --> 2:10:42.120 of this shit. 2:10:42.160 --> 2:10:47.360 It's just been struggled, and she took the run. We 2:10:47.520 --> 2:10:56.240 stopped being together. In twenty seven years later, this lady 2:10:56.400 --> 2:10:59.880 found me my old way and brought me this ring, 2:11:00.080 --> 2:11:01.320 little fucking word. 2:11:01.240 --> 2:11:08.720 Twenty seven years No, fuck now, I took it like this, 2:11:08.920 --> 2:11:12.320 This could either be one of two things. God is 2:11:12.400 --> 2:11:17.640 giving me permission to be coec Yeah he's having me, No, he's. 2:11:17.560 --> 2:11:23.640 Coming, Or I was killing that ass head well and 2:11:23.760 --> 2:11:24.879 it could probably better. 2:11:28.160 --> 2:11:30.800 But no, I took that as a sign from God, 2:11:31.040 --> 2:11:34.400 like it's coming, you know, because how hot is that 2:11:34.520 --> 2:11:37.440 even twenty seven years that the Curry Lady kept the 2:11:37.520 --> 2:11:39.480 ring for twenty seven years. 2:11:39.480 --> 2:11:41.480 And then you know it's the same exact way. It's 2:11:41.560 --> 2:11:43.360 no duplicate, there's no way. 2:11:43.600 --> 2:11:45.960 Yeah. I was in California and one of my guys 2:11:46.080 --> 2:11:48.280 called me said, you know this girl named Blah Blah blah. 2:11:48.520 --> 2:11:50.400 It's like, yeah, I used to and I thought she 2:11:50.600 --> 2:11:52.240 was trying to better up and get some mobil. 2:11:52.760 --> 2:11:53.920 You had a kid, You had a kid. 2:11:54.040 --> 2:11:58.960 Well, she came with a little boy and said, yeah, 2:11:59.440 --> 2:12:01.680 the boy was like nine years old, ten year old, 2:12:03.160 --> 2:12:05.120 so it had been way too you know, it was 2:12:05.200 --> 2:12:07.800 twenty seven The sun she'd have walked in would have 2:12:07.840 --> 2:12:08.520 been bigger than me. 2:12:09.320 --> 2:12:14.080 But she I thought she wanted a head. She came 2:12:14.160 --> 2:12:15.040 in with her little jit. 2:12:15.080 --> 2:12:16.960 I said, well, damn, she don't want no head, nothing 2:12:17.000 --> 2:12:19.440 like that. She sat down and she said, I just 2:12:19.520 --> 2:12:21.600 wanted you to have this back and gave me that ring. 2:12:21.920 --> 2:12:24.960 But you gave it to all. Okay, why because you 2:12:25.000 --> 2:12:26.000 said you didn't want nothing to. 2:12:26.200 --> 2:12:33.120 I just was tired. It's it's nothing, yeah, bro, yeah, yeah, 2:12:37.680 --> 2:12:37.880 you know. 2:12:38.720 --> 2:12:42.520 Man, I ain't gonna lie. It's again. It's something special 2:12:42.640 --> 2:12:45.960 about you, man. Yo. D is the d O C. 2:12:46.640 --> 2:12:48.160 The d O C is the g O d G 2:12:48.240 --> 2:12:49.080 O D is the d O c. 2:12:49.280 --> 2:12:52.480 Oh mind, I don't take no credit for nothing anymore. 2:12:53.040 --> 2:12:53.960 I don't want that shit. 2:12:54.480 --> 2:12:57.400 What your greatest of all the time, God is if 2:12:57.440 --> 2:12:59.560 you ask me, that's what I really want to say. 2:13:00.200 --> 2:13:03.400 Get out of that that that game because when when 2:13:03.440 --> 2:13:05.520 you pick one, see that's what happened with Easy, and. 2:13:05.600 --> 2:13:09.560 You want to pick one, let that one be the one. 2:13:10.120 --> 2:13:12.680 Then he gets to the head and all the other 2:13:12.760 --> 2:13:17.640 pieces fall apart. If you are Easy, how can you 2:13:17.840 --> 2:13:19.160 let doctor Drake get away? 2:13:19.680 --> 2:13:19.840 Right? 2:13:19.920 --> 2:13:22.200 How can you do that unless you don't know what 2:13:22.320 --> 2:13:23.400 you got in the first place? 2:13:24.000 --> 2:13:24.120 Right? 2:13:24.600 --> 2:13:26.760 Same thing with sure, Wait, how can you do that? 2:13:30.640 --> 2:13:38.000 This is ju because okay, can you run us through 2:13:38.040 --> 2:13:40.960 both of those scenarios? Because you was there when Dre 2:13:41.200 --> 2:13:43.160 left Easy. 2:13:43.040 --> 2:13:44.320 I had to talk him out of there. 2:13:44.880 --> 2:13:47.040 They didn't just get up and leave ruthless. 2:13:47.240 --> 2:13:52.640 Yeah, I had to go, Yeah, I'll talk Drake into 2:13:52.800 --> 2:13:53.600 leaving ruthless. 2:13:53.720 --> 2:13:56.880 Oh wow, But you before Cube went in there and 2:13:56.920 --> 2:13:59.400 started talking about he was upset with Jerry Heller and 2:13:59.760 --> 2:14:03.240 this was first he was first. Yeah, but nobody listened 2:14:03.240 --> 2:14:05.640 to Q, and Q came and talk to you, right, 2:14:05.920 --> 2:14:07.240 yeah about that swell. 2:14:07.400 --> 2:14:09.520 But but I was the low dude on the poe. 2:14:09.640 --> 2:14:12.480 I don't it all happened when we was the last 2:14:12.520 --> 2:14:13.880 show that straight out of come to. 2:14:17.000 --> 2:14:17.720 This is in the movie. 2:14:18.280 --> 2:14:20.480 Yeah, okay, the last show we. 2:14:20.600 --> 2:14:23.959 Was in Arizona. If you ever did shows in Arizona, 2:14:24.000 --> 2:14:27.680 they got this things around stage and they we went 2:14:27.760 --> 2:14:30.360 in there and tore that bitch up and Jerry Ella 2:14:30.480 --> 2:14:33.160 came down with Brian Turner with chicks. 2:14:34.080 --> 2:14:37.480 But Brian Turner was the priority guy. Priority okay, yeah, 2:14:37.840 --> 2:14:39.280 not ruthless priority. 2:14:39.040 --> 2:14:39.920 Now, yeah, priority. 2:14:40.080 --> 2:14:43.120 And they had seventy five thousand dollars checks for each 2:14:43.160 --> 2:14:43.880 of those guys. 2:14:45.560 --> 2:14:49.440 Nothing for me. You know, I'm crazy, I know, right, 2:14:50.080 --> 2:14:53.600 But after that, Q was like, I'm not signing shit? 2:14:54.440 --> 2:14:57.240 Where's mine? I mean, why do I gotta sign some 2:14:57.320 --> 2:14:59.200 shit for some shit that I did? 2:14:59.400 --> 2:14:59.560 You know? 2:15:00.040 --> 2:15:00.400 Toomuch? 2:15:00.520 --> 2:15:03.320 Fat n w A wasn't a group at that time. 2:15:03.400 --> 2:15:07.320 On paper, Yeah, they had made they had sold almost 2:15:07.640 --> 2:15:12.600 two and a half million records, and they weren't contractually. 2:15:12.480 --> 2:15:14.640 And I've asked this question. I asked you this question, 2:15:15.040 --> 2:15:17.440 and he didn't really give me an answer. What happened 2:15:17.480 --> 2:15:19.400 with Arabian printing that whole process? 2:15:20.560 --> 2:15:23.600 I think Arabian started the writing on the wall. 2:15:24.480 --> 2:15:26.640 Before because he's on the album cover, he's a part 2:15:26.680 --> 2:15:26.840 of it. 2:15:27.040 --> 2:15:30.920 Well, then took that album cover before before I got there, 2:15:31.760 --> 2:15:34.320 and the first single came from me. They had figured 2:15:34.320 --> 2:15:39.240 it out before I got there. Bro, I tell folks, 2:15:40.280 --> 2:15:51.000 if you listen to Gangster, Gangster, Dope Man, and Boys 2:15:51.040 --> 2:15:54.160 in the Hood, those are the big records that they 2:15:54.200 --> 2:15:57.680 had before I got there. If you listen to those records, 2:15:57.720 --> 2:16:01.160 they're all the same. They're the same record. It's the 2:16:01.280 --> 2:16:06.360 same message, the same beat. Damn there, same cadence, just 2:16:06.520 --> 2:16:08.680 either dope Man, Dope Man or gangster gangs. 2:16:09.600 --> 2:16:13.200 You know, they had found a formula. They hadn't found the. 2:16:13.360 --> 2:16:18.440 Formula, you know what I man from the formula formula 2:16:19.040 --> 2:16:21.400 being able to take that and put it on the radio. 2:16:21.920 --> 2:16:23.320 You got to find a way to get on the 2:16:23.440 --> 2:16:27.600 radio otherwise. And so when the Easy, when we Want 2:16:27.640 --> 2:16:30.880 the Easy came out, we walk a radio single. 2:16:31.400 --> 2:16:33.400 Once you put it Easy on TV, that was it, 2:16:34.320 --> 2:16:35.039 no turning back. 2:16:35.080 --> 2:16:36.280 You said, you made the white people like. 2:16:36.680 --> 2:16:38.800 They loved him, loved him. 2:16:39.320 --> 2:16:43.199 Then when we started doing those shows that as teenagers, 2:16:43.800 --> 2:16:47.520 it was, you know, twenty thirty percent of white folks back. 2:16:47.440 --> 2:16:50.320 Then, you know, skame ring right, you know. 2:16:51.800 --> 2:16:56.800 So, And by the time we got to h the 2:16:56.920 --> 2:17:01.600 chronic and Dre had touched him when we was doing 2:17:01.760 --> 2:17:05.320 Up and Smoke, it was ninety percent white for white 2:17:05.360 --> 2:17:06.400 folks in that on anybody. 2:17:06.560 --> 2:17:08.800 You know what I mean? Can you sold out everywhere? 2:17:09.560 --> 2:17:11.959 I'm changing subject a little bit. Can you break down 2:17:12.000 --> 2:17:14.360 the difference between the S Curl and the Jerry Curl? 2:17:15.040 --> 2:17:15.240 Yeah? 2:17:15.280 --> 2:17:20.800 I don't know, because I ain't have no curl. I 2:17:20.959 --> 2:17:27.960 had Naps West Dallas. But you got to ask Yeah, 2:17:28.040 --> 2:17:28.680 you got to ask you. 2:17:29.280 --> 2:17:31.920 You gotta ask you that because s curl was like 2:17:32.000 --> 2:17:35.720 more like an East Coast thing Jerry Curl. Can we 2:17:35.800 --> 2:17:38.600 had soul glow? I was nine. You definitely had an 2:17:38.680 --> 2:17:42.840 S curl back then. I ain't gonna let you look. Don't. 2:17:43.920 --> 2:17:46.240 I don't want you. Did you had some type of 2:17:46.280 --> 2:17:46.680 girl looks. 2:17:49.240 --> 2:17:49.680 I know you. 2:17:50.480 --> 2:17:52.000 I know you had some ship back then. 2:17:52.120 --> 2:17:52.640 I know it. 2:17:54.400 --> 2:17:57.640 Something serious though on this record, I was ninety eight 2:17:58.280 --> 2:18:04.480 right on your single Where did Where did the Patchworan 2:18:04.600 --> 2:18:05.200 you come from? 2:18:05.480 --> 2:18:10.120 Yeah? Because because you became it was from Jamaica all 2:18:10.120 --> 2:18:15.040 of a sudden, you just wanted to do so the 2:18:15.160 --> 2:18:17.959 does One of the documentary is doctor Drake looks and says, I. 2:18:17.920 --> 2:18:19.720 Don't know the fun this nig said to this day, 2:18:20.680 --> 2:18:23.160 I don't even wait. You just busted out with out 2:18:23.200 --> 2:18:26.200 of Nowhere. Yeah, were you listening to regular and you 2:18:26.240 --> 2:18:30.440 can tell you the story idea this is dope. Man 2:18:31.120 --> 2:18:34.640 was confused everyone, man, Laila was when I. 2:18:34.720 --> 2:18:36.039 Found the sample. 2:18:37.200 --> 2:18:41.240 The Foster Silvers record. We just sit there, we were 2:18:41.320 --> 2:18:44.160 doing n w A music at the time, and I'm 2:18:44.280 --> 2:18:46.520 listening to the record. I heard that motherfucker. My eyes 2:18:46.680 --> 2:18:49.960 get big. I'm like, Drey, listen to this, beget it. 2:18:50.000 --> 2:18:50.560 He said, okay. 2:18:51.000 --> 2:18:53.520 He started trying to mess with it and couldn't find 2:18:53.560 --> 2:18:56.440 any place where he could sample it. He's like, I 2:18:56.520 --> 2:18:59.160 can't sample this, man, you know, put it back. I 2:18:59.280 --> 2:19:02.760 was like, but I kept hearing that shit in my head. 2:19:03.400 --> 2:19:05.040 It's like, man. I went back to him about a 2:19:05.080 --> 2:19:08.359 week later, this the one, Drake, you do this one. 2:19:08.480 --> 2:19:10.960 Cause I can't simply know where I hate his ass 2:19:11.040 --> 2:19:13.640 up for a week later he said fuck it, he said, 2:19:13.640 --> 2:19:14.320 you got something to do? 2:19:14.440 --> 2:19:16.439 It said yeahs line. 2:19:16.240 --> 2:19:19.320 My eyes off come. He said, okay, I'll just play 2:19:19.360 --> 2:19:23.440 it again. So we replayed it. I'm in the in 2:19:23.520 --> 2:19:27.240 the in the other room with Laylad smoking or I 2:19:27.320 --> 2:19:33.000 p Laylad smoking and uh drinking, telling lay Lad, I'm 2:19:33.080 --> 2:19:36.760 mad Dre. I pitched Drake on Bee when he said 2:19:36.800 --> 2:19:41.840 come late summer because I ain't got sit and he 2:19:41.920 --> 2:19:44.240 said you got something, man, I said, fuck it. You know, 2:19:44.680 --> 2:19:48.160 I had a bunch of scrap pieces in my head 2:19:49.760 --> 2:19:52.200 that I had ridden six or seven months earlier to 2:19:52.320 --> 2:19:55.360 other beats. So when the Bee came on in my 2:19:55.480 --> 2:19:58.800 head that our house said do what you're making rapped out. 2:19:59.680 --> 2:20:03.400 So uh, but were you into reggae at all? I 2:20:03.480 --> 2:20:07.160 don't what you thought was best? 2:20:08.320 --> 2:20:11.560 But the base line was drinking, right, The baseline wasn't 2:20:11.600 --> 2:20:13.720 making Yeah the beat no no, no no no. 2:20:14.320 --> 2:20:16.959 The way he sound it was no, it wasn't. 2:20:16.760 --> 2:20:20.360 For him at that moment, in that moment when when 2:20:20.440 --> 2:20:22.680 that thing came on, that's what you sounded like. 2:20:22.800 --> 2:20:25.879 You're making mutic So that's what came out. 2:20:27.200 --> 2:20:44.520 Yeah, I stop, the super was born. 2:20:46.200 --> 2:20:50.560 What you got a trip off this? None of them 2:20:50.640 --> 2:20:53.960 guys knew what was gonna come outcau ship. 2:20:54.040 --> 2:20:56.600 I didn't know what did they think? 2:20:56.800 --> 2:21:01.800 And then you need to click once and it pop 2:21:01.920 --> 2:21:05.000 hom So that said, I went, y'all ready for that. 2:21:05.080 --> 2:21:09.119 I was talking to them, stay on record, y'all ready 2:21:09.160 --> 2:21:09.320 for this? 2:21:10.120 --> 2:21:15.160 Yeah? Well, and the mother Fum's like, oh my god, 2:21:15.320 --> 2:21:19.200 keep going, keep going, And that was one take. Whoa 2:21:20.240 --> 2:21:23.320 and some of that song is it's not it ain't words, 2:21:23.440 --> 2:21:25.200 it's just because I'm a lout of it. 2:21:28.200 --> 2:21:45.400 You're faking on that said, he's telling you that's why, 2:21:45.680 --> 2:21:50.039 that's why you're gonna watch the documentary. Don't get my way, 2:21:50.120 --> 2:21:52.760 don't get I'm not But when you hear dra Gold, 2:21:53.640 --> 2:21:54.080 I don't know what. 2:21:55.560 --> 2:21:56.279 He's like something. 2:21:56.959 --> 2:22:00.760 And he's never even asked you what you said the record. 2:22:01.640 --> 2:22:03.959 That has to be the first hip hop reggae record without. 2:22:03.760 --> 2:22:17.040 Even being rich. Sir Jenks I always asked, shout out 2:22:17.040 --> 2:22:17.640 to Sir James. 2:22:18.080 --> 2:22:22.240 Yeah, he's an unsung right hero, he's the legend. Oh yeah, 2:22:22.320 --> 2:22:25.640 excellent In that documentary act he did Alive, I got 2:22:25.680 --> 2:22:27.400 a lot of respect for Sir Jay Jenks was. 2:22:27.440 --> 2:22:31.040 A cog in that wheel that folks don't talk about him, 2:22:31.440 --> 2:22:33.160 but if you take him out, it don't work. 2:22:33.240 --> 2:22:35.920 Him and Cuban Cousins right, no, no, him and Drea 2:22:36.040 --> 2:22:40.040 Cousins him Andre, Okay about first cousin the home the 2:22:40.080 --> 2:22:42.480 other funk Almostapien and Cube related. 2:22:42.560 --> 2:22:47.960 Yeah. You you stayed a couple of doors down from 2:22:48.080 --> 2:22:50.520 Jinks on on the street off fan Week. 2:22:50.600 --> 2:22:53.560 Yeah, because instead of comping, he's the little brother, right yeah, 2:22:53.720 --> 2:22:54.040 right right? 2:22:54.879 --> 2:22:58.120 And uh, Jenks was a graffiti guy first. 2:22:58.280 --> 2:23:01.360 He's a super hip hop dancer. Yeah, I'm talking all 2:23:01.400 --> 2:23:02.000 the stages. 2:23:02.400 --> 2:23:05.119 He went through the four corners of hip hop wow, 2:23:06.040 --> 2:23:09.720 and became a producer. And he did a lot, you 2:23:09.760 --> 2:23:12.680 know what I mean, Like we we we groomed each 2:23:12.720 --> 2:23:13.360 other and grew. 2:23:15.280 --> 2:23:18.000 That was a hip hop crew, a legit hip hop crew. Bro. 2:23:18.800 --> 2:23:21.960 I love having you having sur Jinks are part of 2:23:22.000 --> 2:23:25.680 the documentary. I loved it. I was, I was sitting there. 2:23:25.840 --> 2:23:27.960 It was It was important because Jinks is one of 2:23:28.000 --> 2:23:29.520 the few dudes that know where all. 2:23:29.440 --> 2:23:31.760 The bones is to And I'm gonna be honest with you, 2:23:31.920 --> 2:23:34.240 and he went with Cube though with the lichen Bob. 2:23:35.120 --> 2:23:40.280 That's why you know what made me and me as 2:23:40.360 --> 2:23:42.960 a fucking guy who drinks a lot. It's gonna sound 2:23:43.000 --> 2:23:45.960 crazy what I'm about to say, me seeing him sober 2:23:46.200 --> 2:23:49.000 in the documentary because for the last five years you 2:23:49.040 --> 2:23:51.760 see him drunk. I've seen him a whole drunk, Like 2:23:52.040 --> 2:23:54.360 so drunk, like where I wanted to like, because you know, 2:23:54.440 --> 2:23:59.880 I wanted we wanted him and we had been a concert. 2:24:00.360 --> 2:24:02.480 Was you there with Mrs That one? 2:24:02.800 --> 2:24:02.840 No? 2:24:03.200 --> 2:24:06.240 This was another one? Oh the one in Vegas? Who 2:24:06.400 --> 2:24:10.360 this was in La? This was in La. And we 2:24:10.520 --> 2:24:12.879 jumped out of the car, Sir Jinx. As soon as 2:24:12.920 --> 2:24:14.840 I seen them, I was just like, yo, I wanted 2:24:14.879 --> 2:24:17.200 to give him a hug, and like he was just 2:24:17.320 --> 2:24:20.800 beefing with his friends. He was arguing with his friends. 2:24:21.240 --> 2:24:22.680 So I stood there and I wanted to, you know, 2:24:22.760 --> 2:24:25.080 wait my turn to say to say hi and give 2:24:25.160 --> 2:24:28.120 my respect, but they were just beeping so much that 2:24:28.240 --> 2:24:29.840 I was like, yo, I feel like I'm out of 2:24:29.920 --> 2:24:33.320 line keeping like interrupting this. So I had to like 2:24:33.440 --> 2:24:36.280 kind of like walk away. And then I walked away. 2:24:36.920 --> 2:24:41.760 And then I realized I had nothing but Puerto Ricans 2:24:41.800 --> 2:24:45.800 with me, so we might have looked like Mexicans. 2:24:47.280 --> 2:24:51.960 So I'm performing, and I realized nobody kind of said 2:24:52.000 --> 2:24:53.080 oy to me afterwards. 2:24:54.080 --> 2:24:56.520 This is in La, and I was realizing, oh shit, 2:24:56.600 --> 2:24:59.600 they don't have Puerto Ricans. I mean this, Puerto Ricans 2:24:59.640 --> 2:24:59.920 are gay. 2:25:00.440 --> 2:25:03.879 She had not it's about twelve no, No, it's about 2:25:05.080 --> 2:25:08.840 no Mexicans running the place where I'm from, Southgate, Cubans 2:25:08.840 --> 2:25:09.640 are running the place. 2:25:10.120 --> 2:25:12.320 Yeah, so they run the place. But there's everything there, 2:25:12.480 --> 2:25:16.199 so you know. But that's about it. But oh James, 2:25:16.240 --> 2:25:17.800 I got him. I got a big up jenks. 2:25:17.879 --> 2:25:19.959 Yeah, I gotta give him a shout because no, he's 2:25:20.480 --> 2:25:22.959 the reason I don't drink today. 2:25:23.040 --> 2:25:24.960 Is because he told you about your birthday. He said, 2:25:24.959 --> 2:25:25.920 you gotta have a birthday. 2:25:26.320 --> 2:25:27.959 That's right, Yeah, that's. 2:25:27.879 --> 2:25:30.400 Exactly right, he says, said it was my It was 2:25:30.520 --> 2:25:33.120 the day of my grandmother's birthday. 2:25:33.320 --> 2:25:37.360 R I p to Maduro and it was the day 2:25:37.400 --> 2:25:38.280 after her birthday. 2:25:38.760 --> 2:25:41.680 And when he said that that ship, you gotter have 2:25:41.760 --> 2:25:44.960 a birthday. What it's my grandma's birthday, it's gonna be 2:25:45.000 --> 2:25:47.680 mine too. Now I'm full disclosure. 2:25:48.040 --> 2:25:53.520 I fell out the wagon last week, oh Ship, when 2:25:53.920 --> 2:25:57.280 KRS came to town and I wanted to ask him 2:25:57.320 --> 2:26:01.440 to be on his podcast. I got a problem asking 2:26:01.520 --> 2:26:05.920 people for stuff because I don't like to be told no. 2:26:06.160 --> 2:26:09.880 It changes the dynamic body, which we're gonna be on 2:26:10.000 --> 2:26:11.879 the podcast after this we're doing that. 2:26:11.920 --> 2:26:14.080 He'll come to your bal Ebody's just say it's a 2:26:14.200 --> 2:26:14.920 personal thing. 2:26:15.080 --> 2:26:15.200 Bro. 2:26:15.840 --> 2:26:19.320 I don't like that. I don't want to ask ship, 2:26:21.600 --> 2:26:22.080 you know what I mean. 2:26:22.200 --> 2:26:24.960 But but I stay away from that because if I 2:26:25.120 --> 2:26:27.920 ask you and you tell me no, then you've changed. 2:26:27.680 --> 2:26:30.960 The dynamic of relationship. I might care, I might like. 2:26:31.680 --> 2:26:34.360 So I'm just gonna let I'm gonna ask God and 2:26:34.520 --> 2:26:36.640 let him give it to me. However you want to. 2:26:36.640 --> 2:26:38.760 Get ead of me, that's you know what I mean. 2:26:39.160 --> 2:26:42.680 Where's the walks at Dallas? Yeah, but we're gonna record here. 2:26:42.920 --> 2:26:46.400 Yeah, but it's a local thing, right because I'm all 2:26:46.440 --> 2:26:49.280 about Dallas for worth right now, Okay, right, I'm trying 2:26:49.320 --> 2:26:53.640 to go back to the crib and the it that 2:26:53.879 --> 2:26:58.400 traveled around the United States and hillpip it never went 2:26:58.480 --> 2:27:02.600 to Dallas. Yet they've never had their moment, you know 2:27:02.640 --> 2:27:05.520 what I'm saying, Like Lay had its moment on Houston 2:27:06.160 --> 2:27:11.200 or New Orleans or Miami or atlanticall la. Dallas never 2:27:11.320 --> 2:27:14.400 had theirs. And maybe I was supposed to be a 2:27:14.520 --> 2:27:17.000 condient for that, and then when I fell. 2:27:16.840 --> 2:27:17.800 Off, it off fell you. 2:27:17.879 --> 2:27:19.480 We didn't give the opportunity to Yeah. 2:27:19.560 --> 2:27:21.880 And just you know, we always big up the South 2:27:21.920 --> 2:27:24.560 here and I'm a big proponent of the South. Look 2:27:24.600 --> 2:27:27.040 at look at what the South. Did he's from the South. 2:27:27.120 --> 2:27:28.960 Oh yeah, and people don't even realize it. 2:27:30.080 --> 2:27:32.880 Oh yeah, I'm from the I'm a New York Jamaican 2:27:33.080 --> 2:27:34.280 West Coast dude from the. 2:27:34.320 --> 2:27:35.720 South was making that for real. 2:27:36.320 --> 2:27:37.359 The song said. 2:27:43.959 --> 2:27:45.280 Kicks him by way of Dallas. 2:27:46.400 --> 2:27:47.440 I love it over there. 2:27:49.680 --> 2:27:55.240 But yeah, bro, like I'm going back to Jenks. I 2:27:55.360 --> 2:27:58.000 owe him alive for that moment in time because he 2:27:58.120 --> 2:27:59.280 put me on this road. 2:28:00.959 --> 2:28:02.720 And you know, Sylvia your own right, of course, I 2:28:02.840 --> 2:28:03.480 know sivil room. 2:28:03.520 --> 2:28:05.560 So I started the movie to sell. 2:28:07.080 --> 2:28:08.760 And man when it when it went out, she went 2:28:08.879 --> 2:28:12.600 up and starts clapping and sanging and stomping like it 2:28:12.720 --> 2:28:15.119 was an old Negro spiritual movie or something. 2:28:15.400 --> 2:28:17.480 That's how you know it movie, that's how it feels, bro. 2:28:17.760 --> 2:28:22.200 Yeah yeah, And I said to her, I quit drinking. 2:28:22.320 --> 2:28:24.880 She was like, thank god. I was like, wow, I 2:28:25.000 --> 2:28:28.440 must have really been you know, something else out there. 2:28:28.959 --> 2:28:31.480 But you know what was great about didn't you have 2:28:31.560 --> 2:28:32.279 a movie premiere? 2:28:32.840 --> 2:28:33.040 Yeah? 2:28:33.440 --> 2:28:36.080 It's in film festival. It was inca Tronabecca. Yeah, but 2:28:36.240 --> 2:28:38.280 wasn't it in LA Because I remember just people just 2:28:38.840 --> 2:28:42.600 posting I've seen something where people just posting it was 2:28:42.680 --> 2:28:43.439 the premier. 2:28:43.920 --> 2:28:46.600 Was the first The premier was in at Triballca. 2:28:46.680 --> 2:28:50.480 Oh that was Tripreca okay, and that's in New York. Yeah, okay, 2:28:50.840 --> 2:28:55.920 I thought it was. It was Apropos because it was 2:28:56.160 --> 2:28:58.760 hip hop. Was fifty his birthday. Oh that's right, that's right, 2:28:59.000 --> 2:29:00.480 that's where uh in my. 2:29:00.640 --> 2:29:05.039 Eyes, it's a love it's a love story to hip hop. 2:29:05.959 --> 2:29:09.320 It's me, it's you, but it's really it's us, really, 2:29:09.720 --> 2:29:10.200 you know what I mean. 2:29:10.920 --> 2:29:13.040 Let me let me give you a moment. Man, it's you. 2:29:13.240 --> 2:29:13.840 Man, you know what. 2:29:13.959 --> 2:29:17.640 I appreciate that cam fuck, I swear I do, but 2:29:17.840 --> 2:29:22.680 it's us. I respect that that needs everything. You mean, 2:29:22.920 --> 2:29:25.080 I respect that. But let me just tell you something. 2:29:26.720 --> 2:29:33.360 When the football team plays, the football team wins, but 2:29:33.520 --> 2:29:36.400 it's always that one guy who scores the touchdown. 2:29:36.480 --> 2:29:37.920 That's right, and. 2:29:39.760 --> 2:29:44.119 The loved oc Let me give you your MVP. 2:29:49.160 --> 2:29:52.000 Yes, it's the culture. Yes, it's the culture. Yes, it's 2:29:52.040 --> 2:29:56.760 the culture, But it's that guy scoring that touchdown at 2:29:56.800 --> 2:29:57.080 the end. 2:29:57.440 --> 2:30:00.120 It's the running back that's going through the motherfucker and 2:30:00.600 --> 2:30:04.080 you know line of scrimmage that you've been doing, it's 2:30:04.160 --> 2:30:07.160 the running back going through the motherfucking red zone that's 2:30:07.240 --> 2:30:10.360 going through there. It's the motherfucker dude hitting that three point. 2:30:10.400 --> 2:30:13.120 It's the motherfucker catching that out of you. And you 2:30:13.640 --> 2:30:17.440 are that motherfucker. And I cannot let you stand here 2:30:18.800 --> 2:30:22.640 in my in my atmosphere, my show and not let 2:30:22.760 --> 2:30:27.640 you know how much you motherfucking are that motherfucker. And 2:30:27.800 --> 2:30:30.360 everyone here let me tell you something, everyone here is 2:30:30.400 --> 2:30:33.800 so excited to sit here to get an autograph from 2:30:33.840 --> 2:30:35.200 you at the end of the show and take a 2:30:35.240 --> 2:30:39.160 picture with you because of what you fucking mean to 2:30:39.280 --> 2:30:45.000 this culture, what you mean to our genre, and what 2:30:45.160 --> 2:30:49.480 you mean to our society. And I needed for you 2:30:49.600 --> 2:30:52.320 to know that you that motherfucker. 2:30:56.600 --> 2:31:02.560 No, No, I ain't glad, y'all. I'm when I say 2:31:02.640 --> 2:31:09.440 when when kr Rest came and then uh face came 2:31:09.600 --> 2:31:13.640 last night, in all these moments that you catch on camera, see, 2:31:13.680 --> 2:31:15.600 I never got a chance to hear any of this 2:31:16.320 --> 2:31:19.880 because I was in that hole with my guys, and 2:31:21.000 --> 2:31:23.840 these kind of things don't don't feel start down to me. 2:31:24.520 --> 2:31:27.720 Like I said, I'm in the back holding holding up 2:31:27.760 --> 2:31:33.600 to my guys. But but bro, that should mean that 2:31:33.760 --> 2:31:38.240 means everything. To know that the people that do the ship, yes, 2:31:38.400 --> 2:31:41.720 that really know love the fun they're talking about God 2:31:41.840 --> 2:31:44.160 got got respect for the path. 2:31:44.680 --> 2:31:49.720 The only respect is love, loyalty, and it's it's it's cherishment, 2:31:50.080 --> 2:31:53.560 you know what I mean. Like, I don't think this, 2:31:54.400 --> 2:31:56.520 Like I know we spoke about jay Z bicking you 2:31:56.640 --> 2:31:59.760 up earlier, earlier, but I don't think there's any MC 2:31:59.879 --> 2:32:04.800 that came behind you that can't show you that same 2:32:04.840 --> 2:32:09.640 amount of respect and love. It's just I don't use 2:32:09.720 --> 2:32:19.680 big words, but it's unequipplently, it's unincrivably not possible. 2:32:20.440 --> 2:32:21.320 It's just can't. 2:32:21.760 --> 2:32:24.080 Like when you think of hip hop, like I swear 2:32:24.080 --> 2:32:26.960 to God when I said it earlier, and I really 2:32:27.040 --> 2:32:29.960 can't think of hip hop about you, like I really can't. 2:32:30.280 --> 2:32:34.520 And you know what's crazy. People who are at the 2:32:34.640 --> 2:32:37.320 top of the game can't think of it neither. I 2:32:37.360 --> 2:32:41.320 don't think Drake can. I don't think rin can. I 2:32:41.360 --> 2:32:44.680 don't think Easy can. I don't think Jimmy IV can. 2:32:45.280 --> 2:32:48.400 It's the only story of youth, what you saw. It's 2:32:48.440 --> 2:32:50.320 the only story they haven't told yet. 2:32:50.760 --> 2:32:54.080 It's beautiful, though it needs to be told. 2:32:54.480 --> 2:32:56.440 G O D did that, man, he did that for 2:32:56.520 --> 2:33:00.480 a purpose, so motherfuckers can see. That's why waiting to 2:33:00.480 --> 2:33:03.840 say nigga, it's gonna be my time when we show 2:33:03.920 --> 2:33:05.880 this movie. It's gonna be a lot in me. And 2:33:06.040 --> 2:33:08.560 look what I did, and I look what that boy 2:33:08.680 --> 2:33:11.200 did to look good, this company did. 2:33:11.320 --> 2:33:12.879 This is what I did. And I'm gonna stand up 2:33:12.920 --> 2:33:16.800 there and I'm gonna say it loud as hell. You 2:33:16.840 --> 2:33:17.959 know what I mean because. 2:33:19.600 --> 2:33:21.959 You saw the movie, so you know I loved the movie. 2:33:22.959 --> 2:33:24.760 This ship, but I want to see this ship. I'm 2:33:24.800 --> 2:33:28.160 so bragging on him because I knew about it. Wait before, 2:33:28.200 --> 2:33:31.160 you know, I don't need the premiere, and I was like, 2:33:31.200 --> 2:33:32.800 where the fuck is this ship out? And I'm gonna 2:33:32.800 --> 2:33:35.720 be honest with you. I checked Prime, I checked Hulu. 2:33:36.120 --> 2:33:38.039 I didn't want to hate you the wrec. I wanted 2:33:38.080 --> 2:33:43.039 to watch it on my own and and when I realized, 2:33:43.040 --> 2:33:46.440 I was like, holy shit, like this this this, this 2:33:46.560 --> 2:33:49.720 is something that you're doing independently, correct because you did 2:33:49.800 --> 2:33:53.240 this premiere on your own. So this is not no Netflix. 2:33:53.360 --> 2:33:57.560 It's not for you to do. And I don't want 2:33:57.560 --> 2:33:59.760 to give you any suggestions or anything. But what I 2:33:59.800 --> 2:34:02.760 want to tell you is it belongs to everybody. That's 2:34:02.840 --> 2:34:06.600 right this story. I can't see it exclusive, although I 2:34:06.720 --> 2:34:09.280 know Netflix will probably give you a bag. And now 2:34:09.360 --> 2:34:11.840 he's just waiting for the right situation. Keep it to 2:34:11.920 --> 2:34:14.720 himself and Hulu will probably give you a bag. But 2:34:14.840 --> 2:34:19.360 in my opinion, this ship belongs to the world, like 2:34:19.520 --> 2:34:23.199 the world needs to see the d O C story. 2:34:23.000 --> 2:34:24.960 And the impact of your story has on everything that 2:34:25.120 --> 2:34:27.320 they didn't even know that actually it impacted. 2:34:27.440 --> 2:34:29.080 That's right, because it impacted so much. 2:34:29.200 --> 2:34:32.680 That's right. If you remember it was that accident was 2:34:32.720 --> 2:34:33.400 a fork in the. 2:34:33.480 --> 2:34:37.720 Road, right, you know what I mean, your career, that 2:34:37.879 --> 2:34:40.880 break don't happen. That thing about that accident is so crazy, 2:34:41.120 --> 2:34:45.440 is because when when when you investigated it and you say, 2:34:45.440 --> 2:34:49.160 the police pulled Joob first, and not only the police 2:34:49.160 --> 2:34:52.120 pulled Jeoba, but they took pictures with you. You had 2:34:52.160 --> 2:34:55.959 God records in the back y'all sitting there. 2:34:58.080 --> 2:35:01.360 When they when they told me get out of the car. 2:35:03.520 --> 2:35:05.560 I was loaded. I was on whatever. 2:35:08.240 --> 2:35:11.360 I was coming out to Beverly Hills Hotel, live in 2:35:11.480 --> 2:35:14.119 my best life with two of LA's. 2:35:13.840 --> 2:35:19.840 Finest you know, and uh, you know what I'm saying, 2:35:21.760 --> 2:35:22.959 But I but I didn't want to. 2:35:24.200 --> 2:35:27.320 Sleep the acronym what is the d O C? So 2:35:28.080 --> 2:35:31.359 I know the story you you were with two females. 2:35:31.720 --> 2:35:36.280 You d o s them them, but you didn't want to. 2:35:36.360 --> 2:35:41.920 You didn't want to. Which is which is? 2:35:42.440 --> 2:35:42.760 Which is? 2:35:42.920 --> 2:35:43.879 You know this is real like. 2:35:45.560 --> 2:35:47.800 Smash, but I don't want to sleep, that's right, So 2:35:47.959 --> 2:35:51.400 you wanted to leave. Gets pulled over by l A 2:35:52.840 --> 2:35:55.000 and they take pictures of your gold records. 2:35:55.600 --> 2:35:58.440 I got out there. They said, get out of the car. 2:35:59.000 --> 2:36:02.120 I get out. The cars are telling jokes and and 2:36:02.280 --> 2:36:05.879 giving the laughing. Oh yeah, BRO told him that I rote, 2:36:06.720 --> 2:36:09.760 I wrote the police. They laughed, yeah, like that, and 2:36:09.879 --> 2:36:12.400 the police too. And the gold records was in the backseat. 2:36:14.680 --> 2:36:16.320 Gold records back then, shot of records. 2:36:16.360 --> 2:36:18.920 It's like all I said. Now they want to autographs 2:36:19.000 --> 2:36:22.040 and shad. So they take pictures of me with my thing, 2:36:22.640 --> 2:36:25.879 of me signing the ticket, you know, and uh. 2:36:26.320 --> 2:36:29.280 Let me go in retrospect. I know this probably might 2:36:29.360 --> 2:36:31.760 be a hard question. Do you wish you would have 2:36:31.760 --> 2:36:32.720 got arrested there? 2:36:32.840 --> 2:36:34.520 Noo? 2:36:34.640 --> 2:36:36.480 Had you got arrested, maybe you wouldn't have had that. 2:36:36.760 --> 2:36:38.760 I wouldn't be a less right, but they had that. 2:36:39.440 --> 2:36:42.200 I feel the accent is a blessing, right, that's right, 2:36:42.360 --> 2:36:43.920 you feel it because it could have been worse. 2:36:44.000 --> 2:36:45.760 Probably had that accident not happened. 2:36:46.000 --> 2:36:48.280 I tell folks all the time that I was too 2:36:48.400 --> 2:36:52.280 part before too right. I could see that, not because 2:36:52.320 --> 2:36:55.160 I was a rapper, because I was in the space. 2:36:55.320 --> 2:36:57.080 When you were a position, in the position you were in, 2:36:58.120 --> 2:37:01.200 and being around that element, you're always going to be 2:37:01.280 --> 2:37:05.160 the first one to catch a fall, because they're protecting 2:37:05.200 --> 2:37:08.800 themselves in a way that you don't know. He had 2:37:08.879 --> 2:37:12.360 no business being in the middle of that stuff, kicking 2:37:12.400 --> 2:37:15.360 in whatever he was doing to that person, being who 2:37:15.400 --> 2:37:21.119 he is number one in Vegas, yeah, and being where 2:37:21.120 --> 2:37:24.320 he's found number two. It's double negatives. 2:37:24.560 --> 2:37:26.800 I cannot even tell you that they're gonna let you 2:37:26.959 --> 2:37:30.119 crash and that's what happened, you know, And I don't 2:37:30.160 --> 2:37:35.080 know who or what. That's not even my uh my 2:37:35.280 --> 2:37:37.800 place to be in the middle of that. I don't 2:37:37.800 --> 2:37:41.680 even listen to when they talk about Sean Combs and 2:37:41.800 --> 2:37:45.160 all that. I don't, you know. The only interaction I 2:37:45.280 --> 2:37:45.600 have with. 2:37:47.200 --> 2:37:50.960 What he did is when Sean was doing he did 2:37:51.000 --> 2:37:54.160 the records, sawing that dangs to Y called me and say, hey, 2:37:54.600 --> 2:37:56.440 what do I gotta do to get you in this video? 2:37:56.520 --> 2:37:59.120 I said, nigga, he did it, you know, send me 2:37:59.160 --> 2:38:02.480 a ticket right up there and knock it out, you know. 2:38:02.760 --> 2:38:06.720 And Sean was a uh a gentleman and a great 2:38:06.920 --> 2:38:12.000 scholar and a great gee he uh you know, he 2:38:12.120 --> 2:38:15.320 was super cool and I really enjoyed myself a mess. 2:38:16.080 --> 2:38:19.000 Sabba jud that that day and he was in there 2:38:19.080 --> 2:38:21.000 for hitting that bag. He was lighting that mother but 2:38:21.280 --> 2:38:24.520 up and I had a blast, you know what I mean, 2:38:24.600 --> 2:38:30.760 walking on the streets out there. Buffy had sent me 2:38:30.879 --> 2:38:33.840 some gear that's another story, as you know. 2:38:34.120 --> 2:38:38.920 But but I wore the gear John, Yeah, and and uh, 2:38:39.800 --> 2:38:42.240 but I really And then he sent me a bus 2:38:43.520 --> 2:38:44.960 to a party that I had to go to a 2:38:45.040 --> 2:38:45.920 party with all of. 2:38:45.920 --> 2:38:50.360 These stars and stuff. There wasn't no doors, and to 2:38:50.440 --> 2:38:53.560 be clear, it was one door you get in that's 2:38:53.560 --> 2:38:57.120 where everybody, and one door when you get out. And 2:38:58.160 --> 2:39:01.560 I got loaded in that mother parder. Then they got. 2:39:01.480 --> 2:39:05.800 Arrested leaving because you get loaded and you think you 2:39:05.840 --> 2:39:10.520 could talk shit to everybody, including NYPD. What you should 2:39:10.560 --> 2:39:14.200 never do unless you trying to go sit down somewhere 2:39:14.240 --> 2:39:18.760 for me, Yeah, just lead him along. Yeah, my guys, 2:39:18.800 --> 2:39:21.000 they snatched my ass and threw me on that bus 2:39:21.480 --> 2:39:23.480 and we pulled off. But but I had a great 2:39:23.600 --> 2:39:28.280 time Sean, and Sean was a true gentleman. I really 2:39:28.360 --> 2:39:33.040 appreciated him for not only just being respectful enough to 2:39:33.760 --> 2:39:34.640 put the record. 2:39:34.440 --> 2:39:36.080 Out, but to call me and say, hey, man, when 2:39:36.160 --> 2:39:36.560 you come to. 2:39:36.600 --> 2:39:38.040 Be a part of it, you know, that's what that 2:39:38.160 --> 2:39:41.080 was best coach to me, right, And that's that's what 2:39:41.200 --> 2:39:42.640 it was. Uh. 2:39:42.879 --> 2:39:46.440 That other ship was just some bullshit, and we still 2:39:47.360 --> 2:39:48.400 stuck in that space. 2:39:48.680 --> 2:39:51.520 It's crazy that all these years later, we're still dealing 2:39:51.560 --> 2:39:52.480 with the effects. 2:39:52.160 --> 2:39:56.640 Of that, stuck in that space. Everybody trying to be yeah, don't. 2:39:56.440 --> 2:39:58.160 Believe East Coast, West Coast is going. 2:39:58.240 --> 2:40:00.400 Nah, We're still dealing with the effects of that. Man, 2:40:00.440 --> 2:40:02.240 there's still being the youngest is going through that. No, 2:40:02.240 --> 2:40:04.400 not the youngest, but we're still debating and we're still 2:40:04.440 --> 2:40:05.040 talking about it. 2:40:05.120 --> 2:40:07.320 There's still like bad blood about it. I don't think 2:40:07.360 --> 2:40:10.160 it's bad, but I think I went older than what 2:40:10.320 --> 2:40:13.800 the offense were. What I mean to your point was 2:40:15.200 --> 2:40:19.800 that it's the street right, or the idea of what's 2:40:20.640 --> 2:40:21.280 that right. 2:40:21.360 --> 2:40:22.120 It's got the game. 2:40:22.160 --> 2:40:25.560 I'm not saying the specific people beefing or the coast beefing, 2:40:25.720 --> 2:40:27.879 but okay, yeah, we gotta let that. 2:40:28.000 --> 2:40:33.280 Go because because I'm gonna be honest with you, I 2:40:33.360 --> 2:40:37.400 haven't been in New York and like maybe eight months, 2:40:38.600 --> 2:40:42.240 but eight months ago I went through New York and 2:40:42.360 --> 2:40:45.080 I felt like I was in the West Coast. It's 2:40:45.160 --> 2:40:49.520 literally bloods and crips everywhere. 2:40:49.760 --> 2:40:53.160 That's what TV do for you. And I'm like Yolk 2:40:53.240 --> 2:40:55.840 or something like that. I was a pleasant. 2:40:56.959 --> 2:41:00.880 I would never think that. I would never think in 2:41:01.040 --> 2:41:03.760 eighty seven would you think that they would be blood 2:41:03.800 --> 2:41:07.000 and holks in New York? Hell, no, helmet. 2:41:07.600 --> 2:41:09.840 But I didn't think eighty seven it would be bloods 2:41:09.840 --> 2:41:10.760 and clips in Dallas. 2:41:11.080 --> 2:41:11.320 Wow. 2:41:11.600 --> 2:41:13.199 You know, so I left Dallas. 2:41:13.280 --> 2:41:16.640 Everybody but you was telling us all explaining it on 2:41:16.879 --> 2:41:19.760 education was he was explaining it, and nobody wanted to 2:41:19.800 --> 2:41:20.280 really listen. 2:41:22.480 --> 2:41:24.840 He was saying that that gang members go out there. 2:41:25.560 --> 2:41:28.120 Yeah, I mean, there's different reasons why it's spread, but 2:41:28.200 --> 2:41:31.280 he was giving you the blueprint at that time how 2:41:31.320 --> 2:41:31.959 it was spreading. 2:41:32.080 --> 2:41:34.560 But isn't it that kind of like even because because 2:41:34.560 --> 2:41:37.400 social media is a big part of the West Coast, 2:41:37.480 --> 2:41:40.080 we gave the West Coast rap right not to say 2:41:40.120 --> 2:41:42.840 it like that, but then the West Coast gave us 2:41:43.200 --> 2:41:43.879 gang banger. 2:41:44.240 --> 2:41:48.200 Well, look, there's a dude named Schooling d schoolies. 2:41:48.560 --> 2:41:50.440 Here's the rap. They say he's the original. 2:41:50.560 --> 2:41:56.000 Even a cadence that they used came from schooling day. 2:41:56.040 --> 2:41:59.480 First, yeah, you're saying because a lot of people who 2:41:59.560 --> 2:42:02.280 credit you with one of the most important people up 2:42:02.320 --> 2:42:06.800 against the rap Icy icedy as well, so like my role. 2:42:07.000 --> 2:42:10.160 But you said school d oh yeah, okay, the case 2:42:10.280 --> 2:42:15.240 is that Ice Ice ded Ice adopted then cbe adopted it. Wow, 2:42:15.800 --> 2:42:17.400 came from school he dam Am I right or wrong? 2:42:17.560 --> 2:42:20.160 From Philadelphia's right? Did I ever say if he was? 2:42:21.320 --> 2:42:26.720 He said he said in this show he said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 2:42:27.240 --> 2:42:27.960 that's exactly what. 2:42:28.200 --> 2:42:30.080 But am I wrong? Because you said you gave it 2:42:30.160 --> 2:42:32.760 to him? In terms of influence on gangster I never 2:42:32.920 --> 2:42:35.760 saw you in that light because I felt like you 2:42:35.840 --> 2:42:38.840 were like the nas of this period. Yeah, you wasn't 2:42:38.920 --> 2:42:39.960 really talking crazy. 2:42:40.080 --> 2:42:42.560 No, I think what what folks meant as I was 2:42:42.640 --> 2:42:45.240 able to help those guys get those got care. I 2:42:45.320 --> 2:42:49.160 got that because without radio you, especially back. 2:42:49.040 --> 2:42:53.879 Then, right even today, I could see hard than that, right, right, right. 2:42:54.560 --> 2:42:56.240 You don't win unless you get on the radio. 2:42:56.360 --> 2:42:56.480 Bro. 2:42:57.120 --> 2:43:00.320 Period what today it might be a little different, but 2:43:00.640 --> 2:43:03.320 but even today just like then. 2:43:03.440 --> 2:43:04.080 It's the same. 2:43:04.520 --> 2:43:08.600 The machine promotes the same five or six guys that 2:43:08.720 --> 2:43:09.360 they want to be. 2:43:10.080 --> 2:43:12.640 You know, the guys and everybody else just have to 2:43:12.720 --> 2:43:14.400 figure it out. Mm hmm. 2:43:15.320 --> 2:43:17.640 Now, Erica, had you vegan for two years? 2:43:17.720 --> 2:43:17.840 Right? 2:43:17.879 --> 2:43:18.080 Yeah? 2:43:22.600 --> 2:43:25.400 Beautiful, that's beautiful. 2:43:26.560 --> 2:43:29.360 No, I'm gonna tell you something or whatnot. I seen 2:43:29.520 --> 2:43:32.720 cam run when on it and he went on, what 2:43:33.720 --> 2:43:36.800 said something about my dude. She can't give him nothing. 2:43:37.879 --> 2:43:41.760 I know somebody because everybody she touches is traumatized. 2:43:44.879 --> 2:43:49.439 I wasn't ready, but uh, always. 2:43:51.959 --> 2:43:56.480 Always, I can't help but respect. That's sister. 2:43:57.000 --> 2:43:59.679 That's right now. Your relationship is beautiful. 2:44:00.120 --> 2:44:04.600 Beautiful because she gave me that child, and that child 2:44:04.760 --> 2:44:08.800 save my spirit. Whow when I couldn't love myself, that 2:44:08.959 --> 2:44:11.920 little girl loved me so much. Who that I had 2:44:12.000 --> 2:44:15.240 to try to straighten my shit out? You know, I 2:44:15.280 --> 2:44:18.520 don't want the window. I got caught drinking and driving 2:44:18.560 --> 2:44:23.039 an actress sit down for like thirteen months I did. 2:44:23.200 --> 2:44:28.200 I never called poem once during that time. And her grandmother, uh, 2:44:28.520 --> 2:44:32.200 Erica's mother. When I finally came home, she cussed me out, 2:44:32.440 --> 2:44:33.600 up and down, back and forth. 2:44:33.840 --> 2:44:37.280 Her grandmother because she said Puma cried all the time 2:44:37.320 --> 2:44:40.120 because you never called wow. And the whole time he 2:44:40.280 --> 2:44:42.520 was gone. And this is me and Poema we are 2:44:43.840 --> 2:44:45.959 you know, that's my that's that's my baby. 2:44:46.400 --> 2:44:46.920 You know what I mean. 2:44:47.160 --> 2:44:47.480 Like I. 2:44:49.680 --> 2:44:53.120 Learned that I kill a motherfucker, then you know. 2:44:53.120 --> 2:44:53.440 What I mean. 2:44:54.360 --> 2:44:58.360 And now my sons. That's why I say. Jill d 2:44:58.560 --> 2:45:02.560 gave me these two beautiful little girls to get me right, 2:45:02.920 --> 2:45:04.800 and then he gave me these boys so I could 2:45:04.840 --> 2:45:07.720 be right, you know what I man. And Bro came 2:45:08.360 --> 2:45:15.400 uh just being there to watch my my youngest son 2:45:17.200 --> 2:45:18.119 practice driveling. 2:45:18.520 --> 2:45:21.280 His last name is Curry, so you know he he 2:45:21.400 --> 2:45:25.040 automatically think he's gonna be Steph when it's this time 2:45:25.440 --> 2:45:27.039 because he already carried. 2:45:26.760 --> 2:45:27.360 You know what I man. 2:45:28.040 --> 2:45:30.160 So he got this little gold and he shoot from 2:45:30.400 --> 2:45:33.400 the other room and shit, and and all he wants 2:45:33.440 --> 2:45:38.200 you to do is watch him. No man, Bro, that's uh, 2:45:38.640 --> 2:45:41.840 that's my youngest son, my mom my oldest son. This 2:45:41.959 --> 2:45:46.400 guy's name is Legend, and he just loves his dad. 2:45:47.200 --> 2:45:49.400 He don't want to do shit. He don't want to 2:45:49.440 --> 2:45:50.000 go to the little air. 2:45:50.600 --> 2:45:53.560 He just want to sit and mess with those devices 2:45:53.640 --> 2:45:55.359 as long as he I'm somewhere. 2:45:55.400 --> 2:45:58.160 He could see me, he could see what man, So 2:45:59.280 --> 2:46:02.320 that's worth more. And all of the money that these. 2:46:02.240 --> 2:46:05.720 Guys got, all the accolades and the trinkets and the 2:46:05.800 --> 2:46:08.119 dish is that they give them, y'all can have all 2:46:08.160 --> 2:46:11.680 of that ship because I got these things that'll never die. 2:46:13.240 --> 2:46:16.560 And they're gonna they're gonna grow up and have sons 2:46:16.720 --> 2:46:18.920 just like I did, and they're gonna be able to 2:46:19.040 --> 2:46:22.120 show their sons that film, and their sons are gonna 2:46:22.120 --> 2:46:24.360 be able to say, Wow, I know what I could 2:46:24.400 --> 2:46:27.600 do because look at what my grandfather did and what 2:46:27.800 --> 2:46:30.800 he did with all the ship that he was up against. 2:46:31.160 --> 2:46:32.480 Now, I'm gonna take this mother. 2:46:32.640 --> 2:46:35.640 Matter of fact, my youngest son, Darren tells me all 2:46:35.680 --> 2:46:37.880 the time he's gonna be a billionaire. 2:46:38.400 --> 2:46:43.359 And he's gonna help me out with the bills. Come on, Bron, 2:46:43.800 --> 2:46:48.160 that's what I'm talking about it. I'm so happy to 2:46:48.200 --> 2:46:51.600 hear that because I need some help help that out. 2:46:52.760 --> 2:46:55.920 And that shit means everything, Bro, and I the. 2:46:57.440 --> 2:47:01.920 Accolades and the money and all the blessings that were 2:47:02.000 --> 2:47:06.280 supposed to have come back. Then the motherfuckers about to fall. 2:47:07.360 --> 2:47:10.240 I know that, right, And I ain't got the kiss, 2:47:10.320 --> 2:47:13.280 no ass to get it right. I ain't got to suck. No, 2:47:13.720 --> 2:47:15.240 I don't have to do nothing to get it. 2:47:15.760 --> 2:47:19.720 No doors, no doors, no doors. It might be you 2:47:19.800 --> 2:47:24.600 might have just the other way. That's what people understand me. Right, 2:47:24.920 --> 2:47:25.880 might take some patience. 2:47:25.959 --> 2:47:29.120 How are you going to react when it's your turn? 2:47:29.200 --> 2:47:31.880 When the rabbit get the gun right with grace? 2:47:34.240 --> 2:47:36.400 No, I don't know. You kind of stopped me earlier 2:47:36.520 --> 2:47:39.960 on this, but I just kind of want to say 2:47:40.480 --> 2:47:46.560 how much the love that I felt Gray has for you. 2:47:47.440 --> 2:47:51.200 When he says, I'm sorry if we're at it, if 2:47:51.200 --> 2:47:59.640 you want me to, but he says, I'm his voice, Nigga, 2:47:59.680 --> 2:48:03.720 I'm sitting there trying to be tough, to not be tough. 2:48:05.160 --> 2:48:10.959 When your friend says, you know, fuck that, I'm his voice, 2:48:11.720 --> 2:48:15.240 like meaning, some of the best raps you ever heard 2:48:15.320 --> 2:48:17.080 out of my mouth came from him. 2:48:18.800 --> 2:48:24.360 So I'm his voice. That's right. Same thing with the 2:48:24.480 --> 2:48:25.120 dog man. 2:48:25.680 --> 2:48:28.840 I love that those guys allowed me to live. I 2:48:29.000 --> 2:48:32.560 love them. I loved if you said you said you 2:48:32.680 --> 2:48:39.080 also said you said you vicariously lived through snoop During 2:48:39.120 --> 2:48:44.279 that first you stood in the studio and you wanted 2:48:44.320 --> 2:48:48.080 to give all you had to him. This is a 2:48:48.160 --> 2:48:51.760 lot about your character. I don't know you could have 2:48:51.800 --> 2:48:52.760 been better at that time. 2:48:53.120 --> 2:48:55.560 Yeah, but that's not gonna help nobody, you know what 2:48:55.560 --> 2:48:58.039 I mean. That's not gonna help me. It's not gonna 2:48:58.040 --> 2:49:03.080 help them. It's not gonna make no money like I 2:49:03.240 --> 2:49:07.880 had one. And I was so when when when when? 2:49:08.200 --> 2:49:12.760 When it happened, I was so ashamed that I let 2:49:12.840 --> 2:49:13.600 it happen to me. 2:49:14.120 --> 2:49:17.039 I wouldn't go home with the record. Yeah, okay, you know. 2:49:18.680 --> 2:49:20.760 When you at home, they don't think you're gonna do nothing. 2:49:20.800 --> 2:49:22.400 You ain't feelsh, you know, then. 2:49:22.320 --> 2:49:26.360 You escape and and make it and it's right here 2:49:26.920 --> 2:49:29.360 and you blow it or you know what's gonna happen 2:49:29.400 --> 2:49:30.040 when you get home. 2:49:30.640 --> 2:49:32.120 They finna let your ass have it. 2:49:32.840 --> 2:49:34.840 And I couldn't even go home, So I had to 2:49:35.400 --> 2:49:37.600 stay out there in La till I could figure this 2:49:37.640 --> 2:49:38.119 shit out. 2:49:39.440 --> 2:49:40.520 Woll how am I gonna get it? 2:49:40.959 --> 2:49:44.360 I'm gonna step back and and be see gonna be 2:49:45.000 --> 2:49:46.520 somebody that's behind the scenes. 2:49:47.200 --> 2:49:54.920 So I talked Shug into building something for us, me 2:49:55.000 --> 2:50:01.480 and him first before before Dre but I couldn't. 2:50:01.560 --> 2:50:03.400 I couldn't get out of my own way, so I 2:50:03.480 --> 2:50:06.600 can't do this shit without without Dre, he said, we 2:50:06.720 --> 2:50:07.840 gotta figure that out. 2:50:08.200 --> 2:50:09.959 And he had no relationship with Dread at the time. 2:50:10.440 --> 2:50:14.360 So you're the seed planet. You're the nucleus for all. 2:50:14.280 --> 2:50:15.279 Of that, the lunchpin. 2:50:15.920 --> 2:50:19.520 It don't work because somebody gotta suffer in order for 2:50:19.560 --> 2:50:22.760 it to happen. With them that they work out there, 2:50:23.800 --> 2:50:27.160 somebody got to lose. Everybody don't get to win. And 2:50:27.320 --> 2:50:30.760 I take this step back because I think if I 2:50:30.879 --> 2:50:33.680 take one step back, I could take two steps forward. 2:50:35.360 --> 2:50:40.600 But that was before before the real gangster shit showed up, 2:50:40.879 --> 2:50:41.320 you know what I mean. 2:50:41.480 --> 2:50:43.920 Like, I'm writing all these songs about all this, but 2:50:44.040 --> 2:50:48.000 when that real ship showed up, you get quiet, real 2:50:48.120 --> 2:50:53.240 motherfucker fast. When when when those real situations show up. 2:50:54.200 --> 2:50:55.920 And a lot of a lot of that stuff I 2:50:56.600 --> 2:51:00.960 could never repeat. But I would have to work with 2:51:01.080 --> 2:51:03.800 them glasses at I asked some glasses when I came in, 2:51:04.360 --> 2:51:06.360 But I would have to sit and that and that 2:51:06.480 --> 2:51:11.840 space loaded with them glasses, them black glasses, basically hiding 2:51:11.959 --> 2:51:14.920 behind them motherfuckers, cause you kill or be killed in 2:51:15.000 --> 2:51:17.680 that space. You can't show no weakness. So even though 2:51:17.720 --> 2:51:20.960 you know what's what's going on is wrong. You can't 2:51:21.120 --> 2:51:24.200 say nothing. You have to just suck it up, right, 2:51:24.240 --> 2:51:27.680 you know, That's the space I was in. It was 2:51:27.920 --> 2:51:34.320 extremely uncomfortable, but it was something that God wanted me 2:51:34.400 --> 2:51:37.160 to go through and learn that so that when I 2:51:37.240 --> 2:51:40.360 go talk to these young men, they understand that I'm 2:51:40.440 --> 2:51:43.119 coming from a place of love. But I'm not telling 2:51:43.160 --> 2:51:45.840 you nothing that I think that. I'm telling you what 2:51:45.920 --> 2:51:48.840 I seen. What's gonna this is these are the steps 2:51:48.879 --> 2:51:53.000 that's gonna happen to either destroy your life or save it. 2:51:53.440 --> 2:51:54.720 And and the choice of to you. 2:51:55.480 --> 2:51:58.280 But I'm not finna blown on smoke up your ass 2:51:58.320 --> 2:52:01.199 and make you think that life is just it's beautiful, 2:52:01.240 --> 2:52:02.000 because it ain't. 2:52:03.480 --> 2:52:07.440 The scariest part of you know, I think I'm been 2:52:07.480 --> 2:52:10.880 famous for twenty five years, right, I've been part of 2:52:10.959 --> 2:52:11.640 this game. Right. 2:52:12.920 --> 2:52:13.600 But one of the. 2:52:13.840 --> 2:52:18.960 Dangerous parts was after the Tupac and Biggie both passed. Yeah, 2:52:20.040 --> 2:52:23.960 like it didn't feel real, it didn't feel right, and 2:52:24.080 --> 2:52:27.920 it almost felt like the streets was more in control 2:52:28.280 --> 2:52:34.720 of the industry than we were at that time, or 2:52:34.920 --> 2:52:41.680 unveiled that fact. Yes, you're you're need deep, You're like, 2:52:41.840 --> 2:52:45.040 I'm I'm little guy, but your knee deep in it. 2:52:45.640 --> 2:52:49.400 Did you ever think that the streets would take over 2:52:49.640 --> 2:52:52.959 like music like that? I couldn't see that. I didn't 2:52:53.000 --> 2:52:55.080 see it neither. And I'm outside of looking at it 2:52:55.120 --> 2:52:56.720 at the time. That was the inside of looking out, 2:52:57.320 --> 2:53:00.960 but you were inside. Yes, it was a he was 2:53:01.040 --> 2:53:04.520 a different beast. He became a different beast. Or was 2:53:04.600 --> 2:53:05.160 he always that? 2:53:05.360 --> 2:53:08.400 Yeah? He was always He was a different, different motherfucker. 2:53:08.520 --> 2:53:12.080 But you guess why. 2:53:12.120 --> 2:53:14.920 You can't take nothing away from him because even though 2:53:14.959 --> 2:53:18.920 it was messy, he moved that stuff forward in a 2:53:18.959 --> 2:53:21.480 way that the machine didn't want it to move, but 2:53:21.640 --> 2:53:23.440 he wanted it to move, you know what I'm saying. 2:53:23.560 --> 2:53:25.280 Wow, But let me ask you, why are we all 2:53:25.360 --> 2:53:29.640 surprised of that fact when the whole entertainment business and 2:53:29.680 --> 2:53:35.480 the music business specifically was always controlled by the underworld, 2:53:35.560 --> 2:53:39.199 the mafia. That's that's the way the music industry, Hollywood, 2:53:39.320 --> 2:53:43.520 all of that foundations is the mob. You want me, 2:53:43.680 --> 2:53:47.160 it is the underworld organized crime, but not our mobs. 2:53:47.680 --> 2:53:49.520 You're right, But I'm just saying for it to spill 2:53:49.600 --> 2:53:53.360 over it. It was always there like that, that, that 2:53:53.640 --> 2:53:54.920 dirty side was always there. 2:53:55.080 --> 2:54:01.440 Yeah, if I can humbly answer that question, we never 2:54:01.760 --> 2:54:05.120 made it and then had the same problems of us 2:54:05.360 --> 2:54:10.760 not making it. That's why it felt weird because bad 2:54:10.879 --> 2:54:14.680 Boy and Death Row with two of the most successful people. 2:54:15.200 --> 2:54:18.960 How the fuck do y'all got beef? The most successful, 2:54:19.000 --> 2:54:20.640 most successful everything. 2:54:20.920 --> 2:54:25.080 They could have changed what you said, Like, it could 2:54:25.120 --> 2:54:27.080 have been a magazine It could have been a simple 2:54:27.200 --> 2:54:29.879 magazine couple. But we didn't know that, and we didn't 2:54:30.000 --> 2:54:33.360 understand that. Holy shit, do you know how powerful we 2:54:33.400 --> 2:54:37.200 would have been together. But then again, it's young men 2:54:38.040 --> 2:54:41.240 with a lot of money. Again, I think we underestimate 2:54:41.280 --> 2:54:43.880 the age of everybody, Like like people talk about Tupac 2:54:44.000 --> 2:54:51.080 today as if he's our aide doing young men but 2:54:51.280 --> 2:54:55.920 also doing extraordinary thing and so it shug So it 2:54:56.000 --> 2:54:58.280 was easy at the time. So like that's the thing, 2:54:58.400 --> 2:55:01.000 is young men doing young men ship. And then we 2:55:01.040 --> 2:55:04.600 got to understand then this foundation I'm talking about those doors. 2:55:05.560 --> 2:55:07.920 They know these young men oh yeah. 2:55:08.200 --> 2:55:10.840 Doing that that are probably gonna go astray and then 2:55:11.000 --> 2:55:13.080 give knowing that they're dealing with some money things. 2:55:13.120 --> 2:55:14.840 So I mean, we just got to like put it 2:55:14.879 --> 2:55:16.640 in perspective to understand easy. 2:55:16.959 --> 2:55:20.920 Jerry's genius, right, if you. 2:55:21.000 --> 2:55:23.359 Keep could I mean you could. 2:55:23.640 --> 2:55:28.959 Was identifying whoever it was right and putting him into 2:55:29.000 --> 2:55:30.800 space to be who he was. 2:55:31.800 --> 2:55:34.200 Jerry, Yeah, because not everybody would have gave Easy that off. 2:55:34.560 --> 2:55:38.560 You are knowing that Easy was the brick. Yeah, and 2:55:38.840 --> 2:55:39.760 he wasn't you know what I mean? 2:55:39.959 --> 2:55:43.360 Like, if you'd have gave any of those other guys 2:55:44.040 --> 2:55:46.720 that option, they probably wouldn't have took that option. 2:55:47.240 --> 2:55:49.959 Because let me ask you, and I wanted to ask 2:55:50.000 --> 2:56:00.400 you this earlier, do you think Easy was persuaded into 2:56:00.560 --> 2:56:07.960 like Jerry's point of view or do you think it 2:56:08.120 --> 2:56:09.480 was Easy's idea? 2:56:09.840 --> 2:56:09.880 No? 2:56:11.000 --> 2:56:13.160 I don't think it was Easy, Okay, I don't. I 2:56:13.160 --> 2:56:14.680 don't either know he gave him the gang. 2:56:14.959 --> 2:56:19.120 I think Jerry gave me. Jerry said, yo, and it 2:56:19.240 --> 2:56:23.160 was the It was the norm. Doing foulshit was the norm. 2:56:23.400 --> 2:56:25.760 And you don't even know it's foul shit, like all 2:56:25.800 --> 2:56:28.000 the contract shit that we talk about now, Like you know, 2:56:28.040 --> 2:56:30.320 if we learn to be managers, we learned it from 2:56:30.320 --> 2:56:32.640 this person, then we managed this person and we put 2:56:32.680 --> 2:56:34.320 them on another contract. 2:56:34.360 --> 2:56:35.520 That's normal, but it's foul. 2:56:35.879 --> 2:56:37.760 And then as we keep going, we say, hold on, man, 2:56:37.840 --> 2:56:41.200 this contract fucked up because that's the norm, and that's 2:56:41.240 --> 2:56:43.680 the thing man, right, And this is the thing about 2:56:43.760 --> 2:56:45.680 hip hop, and this is my maybe it's my not 2:56:45.800 --> 2:56:46.320 even say. 2:56:46.160 --> 2:56:46.760 About hip hop. 2:56:47.280 --> 2:56:49.200 But the reason why hip hop should have been and 2:56:49.480 --> 2:56:53.040 is different is because it encompassed the whole culture that 2:56:53.200 --> 2:56:55.200 was more than the genre of the music itself that 2:56:55.320 --> 2:56:58.800 was being monetized by the industry. It had the opportunity 2:56:58.879 --> 2:57:01.320 and still has the opportunity as a full on culture 2:57:01.600 --> 2:57:03.760 that has a lot to offer more than the music 2:57:03.800 --> 2:57:07.080 that's being monetized. But what did the industry do, whether 2:57:07.160 --> 2:57:10.680 we say it's nefarious or not, They broke up the 2:57:10.760 --> 2:57:15.359 cost these breakdancers, they don't make money, and these DJs 2:57:15.360 --> 2:57:16.160 ain't shit anymore. 2:57:16.200 --> 2:57:19.200 But these coffiti artists don't do nothing. And but not 2:57:19.320 --> 2:57:22.880 only that, it's the biggest thing that we mentioned it 2:57:23.000 --> 2:57:27.360 slightly is the East Coast and West Coast like when 2:57:27.520 --> 2:57:30.600 you actually look at it, East Coast and West Coast 2:57:30.640 --> 2:57:32.760 are the same people with different That was a divide 2:57:32.800 --> 2:57:34.080 and conquer opportunity. 2:57:34.560 --> 2:57:38.720 Fucking accents and to monetize while you're dividing and conquer, right, 2:57:38.760 --> 2:57:39.680 conquer you know what I'm saying. 2:57:40.160 --> 2:57:44.959 You never see to your point earlier, the. 2:57:47.080 --> 2:57:50.080 Most acts in show business we have egos and we 2:57:50.200 --> 2:57:52.520 want to be the best, and we're gonna turn down 2:57:52.560 --> 2:57:52.880 the house. 2:57:53.280 --> 2:57:54.720 But you never see the rock acts. 2:57:55.720 --> 2:57:57.360 That's what we sell. They don't do that. 2:57:57.520 --> 2:58:00.160 They don't and even if they do, they let they 2:58:00.160 --> 2:58:02.440 one hundred and three and died and then they still live. 2:58:02.520 --> 2:58:06.840 I'll never die, right, Mickjack out here seven hundred years old, right, 2:58:08.360 --> 2:58:10.600 the grand and the grandkids are still trying to get 2:58:10.640 --> 2:58:13.000 in the bigga at nineteen hundred years old. And we 2:58:13.520 --> 2:58:14.879 got wooden teeth just. 2:58:15.160 --> 2:58:22.000 In Smalls and in Tupac, just in those two men. 2:58:22.640 --> 2:58:27.840 If you think about what we got ribbed as older men, 2:58:28.800 --> 2:58:33.160 because you could you could see the trajectory that block was. 2:58:33.800 --> 2:58:36.359 I said, I said, we needed Malcolms. 2:58:36.440 --> 2:58:38.160 We need while he was there. 2:58:38.480 --> 2:58:38.680 He was. 2:58:39.120 --> 2:58:41.760 That's what that he was there, you know, that's where 2:58:41.760 --> 2:58:42.000 he was. 2:58:42.120 --> 2:58:45.600 That guy. That's the stuff that I'm talking now that 2:58:45.720 --> 2:58:49.240 I'm trying to do. He was. He was paid in 2:58:49.360 --> 2:58:52.320 that road then right to get out there and talk 2:58:52.400 --> 2:58:54.800 to these boys the way they need to be talking. 2:58:54.879 --> 2:58:56.400 He kind of did it in his acting more than 2:58:56.480 --> 2:58:59.640 his Music's right. Well, well, well he did it in 2:58:59.760 --> 2:59:00.640 his music as well. 2:59:00.840 --> 2:59:02.560 He did, but I'm saying his acting showed him in 2:59:02.600 --> 2:59:05.000 a light that wasn't shown back then for artists. Pop 2:59:05.080 --> 2:59:06.680 made me when this ship rap artists at least, and 2:59:06.720 --> 2:59:10.680 then go to church the next day. I'm saying, I 2:59:10.760 --> 2:59:15.320 wonder I haven't got a ghetto like where he's got 2:59:15.360 --> 2:59:18.880 a baby, he said, Brendan, I wonder why you call 2:59:19.000 --> 2:59:21.920 you bitch? I said, wait a minute, right, that gott 2:59:22.000 --> 2:59:26.080 of me? It's real geminis. Yeah, bro, motherfuckers are crazy, 2:59:26.160 --> 2:59:30.840 relaxed bro with the Gemini. Yeah, my wife is a gymnist. 2:59:31.320 --> 2:59:36.640 Gemini about someone that's a crazy motherfucker Gemini. So you 2:59:36.760 --> 2:59:39.840 on the Tupac side, Yeah, yeah, my wife is on 2:59:39.920 --> 2:59:44.119 the Tubox side to June. But but that's what it's really. 2:59:44.600 --> 2:59:47.280 It's not that Geminis are fake people. Is y'all are 2:59:47.520 --> 2:59:50.560 really those people? When it become those people, I don't know. 2:59:50.560 --> 2:59:51.920 I don't like the way you're talking about it. No, 2:59:51.959 --> 2:59:54.360 I'm just being honest. You are that person and then 2:59:54.400 --> 2:59:57.000 you are this person. We are both, we are everything. 2:59:57.200 --> 2:59:58.240 This is what I'm trying to take you. 2:59:59.160 --> 3:00:02.840 Yeah, they send them at all and all of those 3:00:02.959 --> 3:00:04.680 other substances. 3:00:04.640 --> 3:00:07.160 That thing, all the will, that's what it is. I 3:00:07.280 --> 3:00:09.720 listened to Tupac one day and he had a record 3:00:09.800 --> 3:00:18.160 call I Know you love the Old School and and 3:00:18.959 --> 3:00:21.280 and if you listen to it, he breaks down New 3:00:21.360 --> 3:00:24.680 York in a way that only in New Yorker could, 3:00:24.840 --> 3:00:26.879 only a New York could break it down. But then 3:00:27.280 --> 3:00:32.600 the very next record comes on California. Niggas were chucks 3:00:32.640 --> 3:00:35.080 and up balties, that's why. And I believed in town. 3:00:35.200 --> 3:00:37.720 That's right, that was his loyalty speaking as well. 3:00:37.959 --> 3:00:41.480 This motherfucker was a genius e from Baltimore. He was 3:00:41.600 --> 3:00:45.120 both and he's from Baltimo. He was from wasn't he 3:00:45.160 --> 3:00:46.840 born in New York? And then he went to school 3:00:46.840 --> 3:00:50.440 in Baltimore, Brooklyn? I believe born in went to school 3:00:50.480 --> 3:00:52.879 in Baltimore, grew up in Oakland and Oakland. 3:00:52.920 --> 3:00:53.720 He's from everywhere. 3:00:53.760 --> 3:00:57.160 Bro Yes, yes, And that doesn't make him fake, that 3:00:57.320 --> 3:00:59.000 makes them global, that makes. 3:00:58.840 --> 3:01:00.760 Him Yet it makes them more friends in the most 3:01:00.840 --> 3:01:01.480 kids his age. 3:01:01.959 --> 3:01:11.959 When you talk about acting like there's there's no besides 3:01:12.040 --> 3:01:16.760 you got will, there's not another hip hop guy that 3:01:16.920 --> 3:01:17.560 with shops. 3:01:17.840 --> 3:01:23.080 Queen Latifa, Queen latifas dope but pock Yes. 3:01:24.640 --> 3:01:26.760 Academy Award winning kind. 3:01:26.600 --> 3:01:30.400 Of back then, yeah, back then, yeah, Gridlock. What he 3:01:30.440 --> 3:01:31.240 did Gridlock? 3:01:31.320 --> 3:01:34.040 Yeah, I thought he was. We got a round of that. 3:01:34.520 --> 3:01:37.760 You know, he was gonna be a great, great fucking 3:01:37.840 --> 3:01:41.720 actor and do things for us in this hip hop space. 3:01:41.760 --> 3:01:45.160 That a louder but but we'll, you know, we'll crush 3:01:45.240 --> 3:01:45.760 that for us. 3:01:46.160 --> 3:01:46.320 You know. 3:01:46.879 --> 3:01:52.320 Yeah, he's got classic giant movies out and he's a 3:01:53.840 --> 3:01:56.960 fantastic fucking actor for the Oscars. 3:01:57.000 --> 3:01:59.720 Let's strot that out. There was that actor. I don't 3:01:59.720 --> 3:02:03.320 know what what's that acting. I'm still a little confused that. 3:02:03.680 --> 3:02:07.640 Acting because I've seen something on TV so on them 3:02:07.760 --> 3:02:09.040 on the web. 3:02:09.480 --> 3:02:10.680 Yeah, they tried to break it down. 3:02:10.720 --> 3:02:12.240 The no, that was fake, the one where they showed 3:02:12.280 --> 3:02:15.800 the movie that was that was they created that. Yeah, 3:02:16.520 --> 3:02:18.360 see that's how we're all fucked up nowadays. We don't 3:02:18.360 --> 3:02:19.560 know what's you know what I'm saying. 3:02:19.720 --> 3:02:21.640 They created that, They put it, made it black and white, man, 3:02:21.720 --> 3:02:22.039 look like it. 3:02:22.040 --> 3:02:22.720 Was an old movie that. 3:02:24.240 --> 3:02:29.160 They I got caught to it. 3:02:29.879 --> 3:02:33.480 That was big, made that up? I because, man, how 3:02:33.560 --> 3:02:34.120 do you do that? 3:02:34.520 --> 3:02:36.320 That was a gold move that night? 3:02:36.959 --> 3:02:42.200 And what what shapills saying? I know the one thing 3:02:42.560 --> 3:02:45.440 he wouldn't have done it. He's enjoyed the rest of 3:02:45.520 --> 3:02:52.640 his evening. Uh, speaking about our Chris Rock took that 3:02:53.040 --> 3:02:53.640 swallowed that. 3:02:56.000 --> 3:02:56.959 He handled that man. 3:02:57.720 --> 3:03:01.320 Man, that that was the cold what. I don't know 3:03:01.440 --> 3:03:01.960 what the hell? 3:03:02.560 --> 3:03:04.880 No, yes, I do out of I would have lost 3:03:04.959 --> 3:03:07.480 at that fucking and I don't think i'd have been 3:03:07.520 --> 3:03:08.400 able to hold that one. 3:03:09.680 --> 3:03:09.800 Man. 3:03:09.800 --> 3:03:10.640 Am I going too far? 3:03:11.640 --> 3:03:15.879 They told, Okay, now you gotta give credit to Chris 3:03:16.000 --> 3:03:16.360 Rock on that. 3:03:16.480 --> 3:03:21.200 Yeah, Rock nothing, but look, I've I've always had the 3:03:21.320 --> 3:03:26.440 greatest respect for him as an artist, even when he 3:03:26.600 --> 3:03:29.920 was when when he was doing the SNL big you 3:03:30.000 --> 3:03:31.120 could tell he was writing. 3:03:31.200 --> 3:03:32.480 And I'm a writer. 3:03:32.800 --> 3:03:35.600 So that's about Chris Rock. Yeah, I thought you would 3:03:35.600 --> 3:03:37.360 have been mad at him for c before I thought 3:03:37.360 --> 3:03:41.360 he was a say, pooky, you mean that the boys thing? 3:03:41.480 --> 3:03:42.160 He was doing it. 3:03:42.640 --> 3:03:44.080 It was one of the Oh I didn't even think 3:03:44.120 --> 3:03:44.520 about that. 3:03:46.160 --> 3:03:46.560 One of them. 3:03:47.040 --> 3:03:52.240 Yeah, I mean, the ship wasn't funny, you know, But 3:03:52.320 --> 3:03:57.880 I ain't mad at nobody's ship. Minister Society. It was 3:03:57.920 --> 3:04:01.240 a dude named Doc in that movie with the biggest 3:04:01.320 --> 3:04:04.680 d O C on his hat. It was watch the 3:04:04.760 --> 3:04:07.760 shorts brother or something in the movie. 3:04:08.640 --> 3:04:11.640 So when they was in the room watching the him 3:04:11.680 --> 3:04:13.240 doing the ship, the the. 3:04:13.280 --> 3:04:15.320 Guys walking around with the hat on and say, d 3:04:15.480 --> 3:04:26.480 o h, yes, I've always. 3:04:26.160 --> 3:04:27.959 Been there Pink from Friday. 3:04:29.520 --> 3:04:33.840 W No, I'm talking about Minister Society. It was a 3:04:33.959 --> 3:04:34.520 young dude. 3:04:34.760 --> 3:04:37.760 If it's with two shots, they watching him do the robbery, 3:04:38.240 --> 3:04:39.720 they just watched him like they're having fun. 3:04:40.160 --> 3:04:42.760 They got the shotgun right, Yeah, that's not what he said. 3:04:42.760 --> 3:04:46.400 You think you're wrong and nothing that this different movie. 3:04:46.400 --> 3:04:49.040 I'm up, but I'm outside. 3:04:49.360 --> 3:04:52.480 Yeah, rober I was there. That's why they in the 3:04:52.600 --> 3:04:58.520 movie spread out of concert. I'm there through the whole movie. 3:04:59.480 --> 3:05:01.760 I don't say a whole lot, but I'm there. 3:05:02.160 --> 3:05:05.920 But uh, is that why that movie is so fucking great? 3:05:06.440 --> 3:05:07.920 Because I was there? Yeah? 3:05:09.040 --> 3:05:14.200 Maybe what you want consultants the whole time. 3:05:14.959 --> 3:05:17.560 Now, they asked me some questions and ship and I 3:05:18.120 --> 3:05:21.360 did you know, Jerry called me and said, these folks 3:05:21.400 --> 3:05:24.720 want to talk to you. I gave him my stories, 3:05:24.800 --> 3:05:26.800 but if you really want to tell the stories, you 3:05:26.840 --> 3:05:30.600 gotta go to Jinks. He knows them all and he 3:05:30.720 --> 3:05:33.560 tells him so well, and he don't give a shit. 3:05:34.120 --> 3:05:34.320 You know. 3:05:35.200 --> 3:05:38.600 Did you ever think it would be this like this war? 3:05:38.800 --> 3:05:41.680 Like I noticed, it's like an appliche type of question. 3:05:41.920 --> 3:05:43.520 Do you ever think the hip hop was big at 3:05:43.560 --> 3:05:46.600 this war? But it's like did you I. 3:05:46.640 --> 3:05:52.039 Think we on the other side of the messed up parts? 3:05:52.879 --> 3:05:54.840 Other side is good or bad? Good? 3:05:55.760 --> 3:06:01.600 I think the machine is employed it is, you know. 3:06:01.959 --> 3:06:06.119 I think all those old systems are falling apart. 3:06:06.840 --> 3:06:10.440 They're starting to eat each other, which opens the door 3:06:10.520 --> 3:06:15.000 for us to build new systems that work for us, 3:06:16.080 --> 3:06:19.200 you know what I mean, because one of the creators 3:06:19.280 --> 3:06:26.280 control the business and then we win. The machine controls 3:06:26.440 --> 3:06:30.360 the business because they created the only lanes and you 3:06:30.440 --> 3:06:33.760 can only play. You can only walk through this door 3:06:33.840 --> 3:06:35.240 if you walk through it the way they want you 3:06:35.320 --> 3:06:37.240 to walk through. That's the only way you get in 3:06:37.280 --> 3:06:42.520 these lanes. So we have to develop lanes for hours. Yeah, 3:06:42.680 --> 3:06:45.280 and for those that's coming behind us, because it's just 3:06:45.440 --> 3:06:48.080 dollars and cents. You know, I don't give a damn 3:06:48.120 --> 3:06:51.959 about having an academy for the best woo to woo 3:06:52.040 --> 3:06:52.360 to woo. 3:06:52.760 --> 3:06:55.280 I just want to make my great heart, make my money, 3:06:55.320 --> 3:06:56.160 feed my kids. 3:06:57.600 --> 3:06:58.680 That's it. 3:07:00.120 --> 3:07:02.360 I don't need y'all to tell me what y'all think 3:07:02.480 --> 3:07:04.240 is dope. Hell, y'all are whack. 3:07:05.560 --> 3:07:07.840 The accolades don't mean shit if you can't feed your family. 3:07:08.360 --> 3:07:11.560 Snooper's mad at the Grammys. They never gave him a Grammy. 3:07:12.480 --> 3:07:14.600 I don't know if Eminem ever got a Grammy. These 3:07:14.640 --> 3:07:16.080 guys are mad at the Grammys. 3:07:18.400 --> 3:07:26.320 Do we need a hip hop polar Fan or hip 3:07:26.360 --> 3:07:28.840 hop Grammys outright? Bro? 3:07:29.000 --> 3:07:32.000 We need we need it all. Let's need to own 3:07:32.040 --> 3:07:35.879 it and control it, monetize it, you know, and sell 3:07:35.959 --> 3:07:37.920 out for us. Right. 3:07:38.400 --> 3:07:40.520 We need to get all the youngsters with the money 3:07:41.040 --> 3:07:45.000 and say, let's do this thing together. You know, come 3:07:45.040 --> 3:07:47.080 in in and sit your ass down somewhere and let's 3:07:47.160 --> 3:07:51.240 make some money together. But let's build together. Let's let's 3:07:51.640 --> 3:07:53.200 concentrate on education. 3:07:55.600 --> 3:08:04.760 Matter of fact, www dot doc cares dot org is 3:08:04.920 --> 3:08:05.720 my nonprofit. 3:08:07.160 --> 3:08:10.359 I've been doing it for about eight months now, building 3:08:11.480 --> 3:08:17.000 the structure around this movement. And I can't get too 3:08:17.160 --> 3:08:20.600 deep into it, man. But the thing that I'm doing 3:08:20.680 --> 3:08:21.959 at the end of the movie. 3:08:22.560 --> 3:08:25.440 Out there in them fields with the cares, and that's 3:08:25.480 --> 3:08:29.160 the movement that But it's I told yod Is, I 3:08:29.280 --> 3:08:30.359 made the movie. 3:08:31.760 --> 3:08:34.360 And run into whatever struggle I am trying to get 3:08:34.400 --> 3:08:34.680 it out. 3:08:35.360 --> 3:08:38.640 But the stuff that's going on at the end when 3:08:39.080 --> 3:08:43.360 Peter Johnson gives me that speech that's being built right now. 3:08:43.879 --> 3:08:44.320 Oh wow. 3:08:44.440 --> 3:08:47.720 So that when the movie and this is my guess, yodd, 3:08:48.080 --> 3:08:51.320 so that when that movie touches down, you're gonna be 3:08:51.360 --> 3:08:53.560 able to see that on the screen and then be 3:08:53.600 --> 3:08:55.520 able to look at your witness see that shit gone. 3:08:55.600 --> 3:08:58.359 I saigned, Wow, And that is a sign of change. 3:08:59.040 --> 3:09:01.520 Change has not come. And like Sam Cook used to 3:09:01.560 --> 3:09:06.480 sing about it, we here know, we here that we 3:09:06.680 --> 3:09:10.600 came to change this right here, and we're going to 3:09:10.640 --> 3:09:14.800 get these young boys ourselves and instructure. 3:09:14.240 --> 3:09:16.080 These young men in a way. 3:09:17.080 --> 3:09:19.400 All they wanted some money, Let's go find some money. 3:09:20.440 --> 3:09:24.200 Are they wanted some power, Let's delegate some power. Let's 3:09:24.240 --> 3:09:26.720 teach these young men respect. I don't want you to 3:09:26.800 --> 3:09:27.840 give your guns back. 3:09:28.200 --> 3:09:30.600 And you need you may need them things, you know, 3:09:30.920 --> 3:09:33.600 but what you're doing with them right now is costing 3:09:33.640 --> 3:09:35.600 you more than you gaining. You know what I mean. 3:09:35.640 --> 3:09:38.440 You're not doing nothing with it but playing video games 3:09:38.520 --> 3:09:40.600 in real life, and you don't get to get back 3:09:40.680 --> 3:09:43.200 up when they pop your ass in real life. You 3:09:43.240 --> 3:09:43.840 don't get an. 3:09:43.720 --> 3:09:45.640 Extra life and get the bounce back up and do 3:09:45.760 --> 3:09:48.480 this sit again, You out of there, you know, And 3:09:48.680 --> 3:09:51.720 so I want these young kids to be there for 3:09:51.800 --> 3:09:55.560 their sons. I'm trying to get you right for yours 3:09:55.879 --> 3:09:59.360 because why you're dressing him like you and you're giving 3:09:59.400 --> 3:10:02.320 them your matter rhythms, you're really just teaching them. 3:10:02.200 --> 3:10:02.600 To be you. 3:10:03.600 --> 3:10:05.840 And if you're gonna be dead at thirty three, then 3:10:05.879 --> 3:10:08.240 what are you teaching them? You're teaching them be dead 3:10:08.280 --> 3:10:12.879 at twenty three? Right, Gotta think about it, man, think 3:10:12.959 --> 3:10:16.040 about it, and get your your head out of your ass, 3:10:16.760 --> 3:10:20.320 you know, with all due respect, and start thinking about 3:10:21.040 --> 3:10:25.520 our communities. That's ours. You don't want the police coming 3:10:25.560 --> 3:10:28.520 in there doing that, then we don't want nobody doing 3:10:28.560 --> 3:10:30.520 it nobody. 3:10:31.320 --> 3:10:33.480 Now, if you get outside this circle, you have at 3:10:33.520 --> 3:10:39.080 it right, you know. But you want to bust somebody 3:10:39.120 --> 3:10:42.720 in there butt, go to bed hills and bust them, well, 3:10:42.920 --> 3:10:45.480 don't do that in here. And you have it all 3:10:45.560 --> 3:10:46.000 day long. 3:10:46.320 --> 3:10:48.280 See how long that will last? Henna last too much 3:10:48.360 --> 3:10:50.040 longer because they not having that. 3:10:50.200 --> 3:10:52.400 So we shouldn't know that. We should be able to 3:10:52.480 --> 3:10:55.359 talk to these men, young men and help. 3:10:55.200 --> 3:10:59.920 Them see they power, help them see what's possible for them, 3:11:00.720 --> 3:11:03.880 you know, because it's it's way bigger than some Jordan's 3:11:04.440 --> 3:11:07.680 and and some pussy excuse my language, and. 3:11:07.840 --> 3:11:13.080 Holding you know, a thousand dollars worth of ones to here. Yeah, 3:11:13.400 --> 3:11:19.640 I mean like even buying these big gas change that's 3:11:19.720 --> 3:11:23.160 worth three four hundred, five hundred thousand, winding it to 3:11:23.240 --> 3:11:26.200 the strip club on Saturday night. But you know what 3:11:26.200 --> 3:11:29.160 I mean, that's the same you took three of you 3:11:29.280 --> 3:11:33.359 guys that same million dollars. 3:11:34.680 --> 3:11:41.720 To to quote NISI, it's a hundred acres m You're 3:11:41.760 --> 3:11:44.320 not gonna find a better way to, you know, to 3:11:45.600 --> 3:11:48.520 to get that money straight and reinvest in it in 3:11:49.360 --> 3:11:52.240 something like that, because soon as you wear that chain 3:11:52.360 --> 3:11:55.800 out somebody wanted to take it, it's already lost its value. 3:11:56.160 --> 3:11:58.440 But the one that you put that that million dollars 3:11:58.480 --> 3:12:01.400 into that undred acres, it's not only it's gonna feed you, 3:12:02.040 --> 3:12:02.920 it's gonna feed. 3:12:02.760 --> 3:12:06.160 Your kids, kids kids. If you do the right ship 3:12:06.240 --> 3:12:08.360 with that land, you know what I mean, If you 3:12:08.920 --> 3:12:13.800 the way they doing our food supply these days, you 3:12:13.920 --> 3:12:17.440 got this gold ain't going out the way. And Bill's Gates, 3:12:17.520 --> 3:12:21.480 Bill's Bill Gates. He's a Bill Gates, Still Gates, Still Gate. 3:12:22.200 --> 3:12:24.920 He's buying up all the land they gm on all 3:12:25.000 --> 3:12:28.879 of them land to like, there's a lot of things 3:12:29.000 --> 3:12:32.360 reasons why you should buy land and grown no. 3:12:32.560 --> 3:12:37.160 Less, consolidate your power, your understanding and get out of 3:12:37.240 --> 3:12:42.800 that uh NWA mentality, the n W with our Q 3:12:43.720 --> 3:12:46.720 get to go back to the NVAUA with Q menality 3:12:47.320 --> 3:12:48.920 when we was trying to figure out how to get 3:12:49.000 --> 3:12:49.600 them to stop. 3:12:50.200 --> 3:12:52.400 Now you didn't pick picked up where they left off, 3:12:52.920 --> 3:12:55.320 and you're doing a much better job of killing us 3:12:55.400 --> 3:12:55.840 than they are. 3:12:56.680 --> 3:12:57.360 Well you know what I mean. 3:12:58.120 --> 3:13:02.200 That's just just my humble opinion, man, But I see, 3:13:02.360 --> 3:13:04.840 like I said, I think we passed. 3:13:06.000 --> 3:13:08.920 The worst of that, and we in the stage where 3:13:08.920 --> 3:13:09.959 we where we're trying. 3:13:09.760 --> 3:13:14.119 To figure out how to be better about it, how 3:13:14.160 --> 3:13:19.240 to get these young folks and help them monetize their 3:13:19.440 --> 3:13:22.360 art in a way, and then Dallas some folk worth 3:13:22.720 --> 3:13:24.600 for me, give them an avenue where they could go 3:13:25.240 --> 3:13:27.840 like when I don't know if you if you order 3:13:27.920 --> 3:13:30.960 young enough to know to remember the Fever and those 3:13:31.080 --> 3:13:33.840 kind of clubs back then in New York City, those 3:13:33.920 --> 3:13:34.959 things don't exist. 3:13:34.760 --> 3:13:37.920 Anymore, you know what I mean, They don't have nowhere 3:13:37.920 --> 3:13:38.320 to show it. 3:13:38.600 --> 3:13:42.800 If you're not if you're not a adult dealer, you 3:13:42.840 --> 3:13:46.720 don't have nowhere to go because they go everywhere because 3:13:46.760 --> 3:13:49.560 they backing where they go. But if you just regularly 3:13:49.640 --> 3:13:52.560 help our guy or chick, you don't have those those 3:13:52.600 --> 3:13:53.520 spaces anymore. 3:13:54.080 --> 3:13:54.200 You know. 3:13:54.280 --> 3:13:57.680 I'm trying to recreate those avenues for for just for 3:13:57.800 --> 3:14:00.879 hip hop in general in Dallas, for work because they 3:14:00.959 --> 3:14:01.440 deserve it. 3:14:02.480 --> 3:14:05.120 So one of the biggest things about the documentary was 3:14:05.959 --> 3:14:12.400 you searching for get to your voice back right then 3:14:12.440 --> 3:14:18.520 it's this operation that's presented you again without giving everything up. 3:14:19.920 --> 3:14:23.160 It's presented to you and they say, well, how much 3:14:23.520 --> 3:14:26.320 would this be? He said, Man, you got to be 3:14:26.440 --> 3:14:33.040 in their friend. That was the least your concern. 3:14:33.160 --> 3:14:35.640 Now that's that's the one motherfucker I don't mind ask 3:14:35.720 --> 3:14:35.959 him for. 3:14:40.879 --> 3:14:48.040 But but but me looking as a doc I know, 3:14:48.400 --> 3:14:50.240 I know he would spend that for you. Oh yeah, 3:14:50.600 --> 3:14:53.760 I know that in the heartbeat. But but now this 3:14:53.959 --> 3:15:00.440 is probably serious part of this whole interview. Is that 3:15:00.520 --> 3:15:03.440 something you're gonna pursue. No, Bro, you don't know like 3:15:03.840 --> 3:15:04.320 I was. 3:15:04.600 --> 3:15:07.879 Like when I started making that movie in my heart 3:15:07.920 --> 3:15:08.840 and that I was ready to go. 3:15:09.160 --> 3:15:12.240 Let's go, because you kept saying this one last time. 3:15:12.640 --> 3:15:14.480 I want this one last time. Right. 3:15:15.840 --> 3:15:18.840 But when they came with the A, I think, you know, 3:15:19.640 --> 3:15:21.480 because I don't want to you. 3:15:22.840 --> 3:15:28.120 Yeah, but but if it's possible that I can actually 3:15:28.240 --> 3:15:30.680 do it myself and I and I talked to you 3:15:30.840 --> 3:15:33.800 on The guy's name is Peter Bulaski. 3:15:34.560 --> 3:15:37.200 I talked to him a couple of days ago, and he. 3:15:37.280 --> 3:15:39.120 Still want to know what we're doing. 3:15:39.560 --> 3:15:43.360 You know, that's a surgeon. That's the white guy that's 3:15:43.400 --> 3:15:45.400 on the on the on in the movie. 3:15:45.480 --> 3:15:50.600 Yeah, he was gonna come here with me. Okay, Yeah, 3:15:50.640 --> 3:15:51.920 I was trying to get him to come here. 3:15:51.959 --> 3:15:55.119 I love his honesty, see you, I love his honest 3:15:55.160 --> 3:15:56.240 He gave you the real percentage. 3:15:56.280 --> 3:15:59.560 Oh yeah, you know. And it it didn't sound good 3:15:59.680 --> 3:16:00.160 good it. 3:16:01.120 --> 3:16:02.039 It didn't sound good. 3:16:02.160 --> 3:16:03.720 No, it didn't sound good. 3:16:03.840 --> 3:16:06.240 It didn't sound great. It did sound good. Did sound 3:16:06.240 --> 3:16:07.640 it sound good? It didn't sound great. 3:16:08.600 --> 3:16:09.120 But there's not. 3:16:09.280 --> 3:16:14.000 Always that that possibility. And to say, you know, you 3:16:14.120 --> 3:16:18.840 think about these very beautiful women when they go out 3:16:18.840 --> 3:16:21.680 and start getting stuff shot in they butt like once 3:16:21.760 --> 3:16:23.200 you get it shot in there, that's it. 3:16:24.280 --> 3:16:26.959 You know, ain't know you can't suck it? I can 3:16:27.160 --> 3:16:28.520 or can't you suck it out? I don't know if 3:16:28.560 --> 3:16:32.240 you can do that, but once you once you take 3:16:32.320 --> 3:16:33.240 that stuff, that's it. 3:16:34.080 --> 3:16:40.520 Well, so I'm very coutious about and I wanted to 3:16:40.640 --> 3:16:43.400 see how if I'm being on the side, I wanted 3:16:43.440 --> 3:16:45.439 to see what people's thoughts. 3:16:45.240 --> 3:16:46.840 Were through the film. 3:16:47.879 --> 3:16:50.080 Just in general. I did it in the film. 3:16:51.000 --> 3:16:56.000 I made it a point to get everybody's real tak 3:16:56.080 --> 3:17:00.320 an opinion on it. And some felt this way, some 3:17:00.560 --> 3:17:04.320 felt that way for this reason and for that reason, 3:17:05.959 --> 3:17:08.640 and they was all genuine and serious of it, you know. 3:17:10.440 --> 3:17:14.560 And so I'm still okay thinking about it. 3:17:14.680 --> 3:17:23.480 But I'll say this that that that doing that documentary 3:17:23.600 --> 3:17:27.960 for me was a cathartic experience. It helped me get 3:17:28.040 --> 3:17:34.560 past a lot of shit, even doing the documentary in 3:17:34.600 --> 3:17:37.360 the first place. Folks have been trying to get me 3:17:37.440 --> 3:17:42.720 to do this stuff for a long time and I 3:17:42.879 --> 3:17:46.760 just couldn't see it. But it was let me see 3:17:46.800 --> 3:17:47.480 twenty twenty. 3:17:47.879 --> 3:17:48.640 I met Peter. 3:17:48.600 --> 3:17:54.280 Johnson in twenty nineteen. He took me to the sixty 3:17:54.400 --> 3:18:00.240 second anniversary of the Little Rock nine in Arkansas. I 3:18:00.280 --> 3:18:04.040 went and met those people right, sat and had dinner 3:18:04.080 --> 3:18:06.480 with them, and they told many stories, and that shit 3:18:07.000 --> 3:18:11.680 opened up something. And when I got back to my crib. 3:18:12.800 --> 3:18:16.560 It felt I had like a revelation moment. Jo D 3:18:16.760 --> 3:18:20.119 showed up in my in my front yard and said, 3:18:20.160 --> 3:18:23.400 you can let that that pain that you've been holding 3:18:23.440 --> 3:18:25.320 all this time, you can let it go. 3:18:26.160 --> 3:18:28.200 You you didn't do that. I did that. 3:18:29.320 --> 3:18:31.480 I did that for a purpose, and you're about to 3:18:31.560 --> 3:18:35.600 walk in that purpose. Jo D showed up and said. 3:18:35.400 --> 3:18:38.440 This to me. And I've been doing this ever since. 3:18:39.040 --> 3:18:40.879 Then of a suddenly it's been. 3:18:40.800 --> 3:18:43.119 A slow walk back up the hill. 3:18:43.800 --> 3:18:46.440 But I went and found my own bread, went and 3:18:46.520 --> 3:18:50.119 found the own director, went and found the producers. Wrote 3:18:50.120 --> 3:18:56.119 to motherfucker, myself had to stay on these these these 3:18:56.200 --> 3:18:59.280 white folks like a like a slave master. 3:19:00.360 --> 3:19:00.720 No pun. 3:19:00.800 --> 3:19:04.440 Intended to make sure that this story is told the 3:19:04.520 --> 3:19:07.959 way it needs to be told. And it turned out. 3:19:08.920 --> 3:19:11.880 You know, I'm so proud of it is that no 3:19:12.000 --> 3:19:15.400 one could do it better of hip hop documentaries. 3:19:15.760 --> 3:19:17.640 And is that the name of it? What's the name 3:19:17.720 --> 3:19:17.880 of it? 3:19:18.560 --> 3:19:19.080 The doctor? 3:19:19.400 --> 3:19:28.440 Yeah, the doctor. We gotta flight. I just I just 3:19:28.600 --> 3:19:31.200 want to like, I just want to focus on the 3:19:31.360 --> 3:19:37.640 dock because I'm a documentary guy. I love documentary me too. 3:19:38.720 --> 3:19:42.880 So when I sat there and all the footage you 3:19:42.959 --> 3:19:47.200 got from your mom's, your family to everyone just chiming in. 3:19:48.160 --> 3:19:51.440 It was just like, this was extraordinary, bro, when. 3:19:51.360 --> 3:19:54.280 It come on, When it first come on, and then 3:19:54.400 --> 3:19:57.119 the gangster music start playing. 3:19:57.280 --> 3:20:00.440 And you see that action that's going on, and then 3:20:00.480 --> 3:20:02.800 you jumped right from that to the doctor's chair. 3:20:02.920 --> 3:20:05.320 Yes, and not see all of that ship. Yes it 3:20:05.520 --> 3:20:08.160 lock you in, bro, And the next thing you see 3:20:08.200 --> 3:20:08.800 is me and Dre. 3:20:10.720 --> 3:20:17.160 Immediately immediately you see the doctor saying, it's funny as hell. 3:20:17.360 --> 3:20:19.720 I'm sorry. That's just for the people that they're like 3:20:19.800 --> 3:20:23.920 giving him like vocal and the doctor is just a 3:20:23.959 --> 3:20:26.520 funny guy. The doctor is just sitting there, he's like 3:20:28.680 --> 3:20:32.480 the doctors like you with the doc he was like 3:20:33.400 --> 3:20:37.279 and it's hilarious. But then boom straight into the fucking 3:20:37.320 --> 3:20:42.080 studio with Dre and you're sitting there and now you know, 3:20:42.240 --> 3:20:43.560 I don't know how to pronounce words. 3:20:44.760 --> 3:20:51.400 Come camaraderie. Yeah, that camaroppery, the camaraderie with you and 3:20:51.560 --> 3:20:56.119 Dre and you sitting there and you joking on him. 3:20:56.640 --> 3:21:01.120 He's joking on you back, y'all just talking. It's just 3:21:01.280 --> 3:21:04.440 like that to me is friendship, Yeah, relationship. 3:21:04.520 --> 3:21:09.840 To me, it's like, you know, I wish Sonny is 3:21:09.879 --> 3:21:13.200 there like me and Sonny, he's my friend. I met 3:21:13.280 --> 3:21:17.120 him through herefn right here. But I could always joke 3:21:17.200 --> 3:21:22.720 on Sonny in the worst way, and he knows I 3:21:22.800 --> 3:21:25.840 don't mean it in the worst and I don't meet 3:21:25.959 --> 3:21:27.400 him right there, and I don't mean it in the 3:21:27.440 --> 3:21:30.560 worst way. And it was the same thing that I 3:21:30.720 --> 3:21:33.480 saw with you and Dre, Like as soon as the 3:21:33.520 --> 3:21:39.080 ship started, he goes, hey, man, this is my friend. 3:21:39.080 --> 3:21:41.840 He'd been sucking up for a long time. That means 3:21:41.840 --> 3:21:44.840 you guys have been through the ringer. Oh yeah, that's 3:21:44.879 --> 3:21:47.600 all that means is y'all been there on that he's got. 3:21:48.600 --> 3:21:49.360 He can say that. 3:21:52.640 --> 3:21:56.199 Because he knows, you know, if you push the wrong button, 3:21:56.240 --> 3:21:59.800 it's gonna be a problem. But I know that you 3:21:59.879 --> 3:22:04.840 saying that for love and for a fact, And that's 3:22:04.879 --> 3:22:07.440 why I gave him there. When I came in from 3:22:07.520 --> 3:22:12.120 this side, that was me helping this joke out and 3:22:12.240 --> 3:22:14.720 it played well. I mean, so we know each other. 3:22:15.320 --> 3:22:18.480 I know the tred is great at what he do, 3:22:18.720 --> 3:22:21.840 and my my thro my purpose is to help people. 3:22:21.959 --> 3:22:23.000 So I always love that. 3:22:23.840 --> 3:22:24.720 I love that's what I do. 3:22:24.959 --> 3:22:27.360 BRO all good at that, But there's not too many 3:22:27.400 --> 3:22:30.480 people in life just like that. That's why it makes 3:22:30.520 --> 3:22:32.480 you special. But I want to get to this story 3:22:33.280 --> 3:22:34.959 of you jumping in a limo. 3:22:36.440 --> 3:22:38.119 With the gang matters in the back. 3:22:40.879 --> 3:22:42.240 And you just took the limo. 3:22:44.320 --> 3:22:49.880 And and look so this was uh we was, and 3:22:49.959 --> 3:22:55.440 it's in the movie. This is when future shot had 3:22:55.520 --> 3:22:58.520 turned to death Row and it's that party. 3:22:58.760 --> 3:23:01.440 Yeah, that's great. I never you about future shock at all. 3:23:01.680 --> 3:23:04.400 Future shock that was pre didn't know that that wasn't 3:23:04.440 --> 3:23:06.280 widely Yeah it wasn't. 3:23:06.360 --> 3:23:09.160 They don't. They're not undersay, Bro, they don't tell the 3:23:10.080 --> 3:23:10.920 history is written. 3:23:11.000 --> 3:23:12.520 But that's that's the craziest. 3:23:13.080 --> 3:23:13.800 But it ain't. 3:23:14.280 --> 3:23:15.720 That's history is not the truth. 3:23:15.879 --> 3:23:16.600 His story. 3:23:16.920 --> 3:23:18.640 His story is written by the victors. 3:23:18.720 --> 3:23:19.119 That's right. 3:23:19.480 --> 3:23:22.680 So they're giving you their narrative of what of what 3:23:22.920 --> 3:23:26.760 happens true. That's why Christopher Columbus discovered America. 3:23:26.920 --> 3:23:27.040 Right. 3:23:27.320 --> 3:23:29.680 But when you watch the documentary, what you get is 3:23:29.760 --> 3:23:36.720 the real, unadulterated truth. And you can tell that that's 3:23:36.760 --> 3:23:40.000 what you're getting and it's not coming from me, It's 3:23:40.040 --> 3:23:40.959 coming from them. 3:23:41.120 --> 3:23:46.520 Right, you know what I mean? And so uh huh. 3:23:48.200 --> 3:23:49.920 One of the the. 3:23:51.520 --> 3:23:54.879 The blessings is to be able to just be able 3:23:54.920 --> 3:24:00.400 to know that you know that that's real coming from them. No, 3:24:00.560 --> 3:24:02.879 he said, he's never seen Drake. 3:24:02.760 --> 3:24:03.440 Smile like that. 3:24:04.400 --> 3:24:08.040 And you can generally see that dras happy and shit 3:24:08.320 --> 3:24:13.600 like he's always guarded when you get on camera, and 3:24:13.879 --> 3:24:16.200 people at that level, you know, they got to. 3:24:16.200 --> 3:24:20.400 Watch their mouths and watch they're guarded. But dres and that, 3:24:20.560 --> 3:24:22.880 you know, he's just happy to be there. You know 3:24:23.080 --> 3:24:27.800 the same thing with him and you, You and the 3:24:27.920 --> 3:24:30.919 dog and ship everybody. 3:24:30.640 --> 3:24:34.039 And everybody's just happy. They're happy to lend their time 3:24:34.760 --> 3:24:40.240 to a legend, and that resonates. I'm telling you, whoever 3:24:40.440 --> 3:24:49.440 sees this documentary, it's gonna be like wow, because people 3:24:49.600 --> 3:24:53.160 sincerely the same way you want to see everybody win. 3:24:55.959 --> 3:25:02.640 I want to see you motherfucking win. I'm being honest. 3:25:03.040 --> 3:25:03.720 I was talking here. 3:25:03.879 --> 3:25:06.680 Uh they was talking about it and they slipping in 3:25:06.760 --> 3:25:13.600 my mind. Uh ah that shit, that shit lost my mom. 3:25:14.400 --> 3:25:19.440 But it's something about, uh, the way this game does 3:25:19.760 --> 3:25:25.000 us that that's somebody in my space. 3:25:25.600 --> 3:25:30.959 Or somebody was saying that. There's a lot of folks prayed, 3:25:31.800 --> 3:25:33.600 but that's why I'm still here. 3:25:34.240 --> 3:25:37.120 R Like when that reg happened, it was so many 3:25:37.200 --> 3:25:41.120 people crying and praying that that's the reason I'm still here. 3:25:41.280 --> 3:25:44.440 So they was calling God on speed. Died like, man, 3:25:44.520 --> 3:25:46.880 help my guy, yep, and he said, you know what 3:25:46.879 --> 3:25:48.680 I mean, And I've heard that so. 3:25:48.760 --> 3:25:52.960 Many times over over my life that I know that 3:25:53.080 --> 3:25:55.800 it's folks that are that want this win from me 3:25:56.600 --> 3:25:59.080 better than I want it for myself. But and so 3:25:59.200 --> 3:26:02.080 that's why I'm gonna walk in it when g O. 3:26:02.200 --> 3:26:05.520 D Decides to give it to me with grace, because 3:26:05.959 --> 3:26:06.840 it's because. 3:26:07.240 --> 3:26:10.600 They prayed that hard that he says, I'm gonna give 3:26:10.640 --> 3:26:14.000 it to him this way, and I'm gonna be the 3:26:14.080 --> 3:26:16.880 man if they want that, they need me to be 3:26:17.000 --> 3:26:21.120 the respect that gift when it comes, you know, and 3:26:21.280 --> 3:26:22.200 shine like a mother. 3:26:22.640 --> 3:26:26.440 You can believe that or you're doing it. I'm gonna 3:26:26.520 --> 3:26:29.320 use the bathroom real crazy too. Then there I got 3:26:29.360 --> 3:26:31.920 one more question and that's it. But ho yo yo, 3:26:33.240 --> 3:26:36.800 Like I told you, man, I watched the documentary this 3:26:37.040 --> 3:26:41.400 is it was so entertaining too me. But it's one 3:26:41.440 --> 3:26:43.360 part of the documentary that I want to ask you. 3:26:43.720 --> 3:26:48.280 And Dre says he does not regret a lot of 3:26:48.360 --> 3:26:50.920 things in life, but one of the things that he 3:26:51.000 --> 3:26:54.840 regretted in life was when you came over the house 3:26:56.120 --> 3:26:57.880 and he wished he would have told you to stay 3:26:58.080 --> 3:27:02.080 at the house before the accident. Before the accident. 3:27:02.360 --> 3:27:10.200 Yeah, it was that morning. Uh, I had been shooting. 3:27:10.760 --> 3:27:15.359 This was before the sex compade, because. 3:27:15.160 --> 3:27:18.879 You came to the video six hours Yeah, I was six. 3:27:18.800 --> 3:27:22.480 Hours late because I was hanging out with shooting. You 3:27:22.560 --> 3:27:27.280 know what man doing again And I'm six hours late 3:27:27.320 --> 3:27:29.840 to the formula. To the formula. 3:27:30.600 --> 3:27:34.160 They're making the best wrap up they are And if 3:27:34.200 --> 3:27:36.280 you look at fifty cents in the club, that's kind 3:27:36.320 --> 3:27:42.000 of like the same video. That's the formula that I 3:27:42.240 --> 3:27:47.440 know what I know, shout shout out the fifth Fifth, 3:27:47.520 --> 3:27:47.800 my guy. 3:27:49.040 --> 3:27:58.160 He's always so respectful and give me queens even queens 3:27:58.280 --> 3:28:01.360 call Fifth and said you to show up from a video? 3:28:01.959 --> 3:28:04.960 He said, tell me where you know what I mean. Uh, 3:28:06.440 --> 3:28:10.560 it was just scheduling. But God had asked for. 3:28:11.040 --> 3:28:13.880 Very few people, the people that I respect. That that 3:28:14.160 --> 3:28:16.240 that was that was gonna mean something to the story 3:28:17.000 --> 3:28:25.320 for me. But tremendous love and respect for filth because 3:28:26.120 --> 3:28:27.200 what what what what. 3:28:27.360 --> 3:28:31.960 You get is the it's the outside version of the 3:28:32.080 --> 3:28:32.879 street version. 3:28:34.320 --> 3:28:36.960 I remember, there's the thing I keep seeing over and 3:28:37.080 --> 3:28:40.279 over again on the web of y'all always together somewhere. 3:28:40.320 --> 3:28:46.040 It's right, it's just the first but that freestyle, that 3:28:46.160 --> 3:28:49.280 freestyle is legendary, and that freestyle orco legendary continue. 3:28:50.000 --> 3:28:55.080 So from that, from that, POV, the dude has always 3:28:55.200 --> 3:28:58.680 been that guy, you know. And so when he came 3:28:58.760 --> 3:29:02.520 to l A and and connected with Dre Man's and 3:29:02.640 --> 3:29:07.480 that in the club beat, mm hmm, you know it's 3:29:07.760 --> 3:29:09.000 it was pretty much overweight. 3:29:09.360 --> 3:29:15.760 But Lorie, yeah, yeah, man, I don't know how many 3:29:15.760 --> 3:29:16.400 of these things. 3:29:16.560 --> 3:29:19.240 No, please come on, give me one. But I brought 3:29:19.320 --> 3:29:23.520 these shirts because let me finish the question, because when 3:29:23.600 --> 3:29:26.560 Dre said, let me give us the shirt I'm taking. 3:29:27.480 --> 3:29:30.520 Is there any regret that you have that because Dra 3:29:30.680 --> 3:29:34.280 said that that one regret that he have is he didn't. 3:29:34.400 --> 3:29:36.119 He didn't he didn't want you to leave the house 3:29:36.200 --> 3:29:41.520 that day. He wants he wished to keep you. There. 3:29:42.360 --> 3:29:44.040 Is there any regret that you have that you could 3:29:44.040 --> 3:29:46.200 take back anything in this whole thing? 3:29:46.560 --> 3:29:52.120 People asked me that that a lot M and man, 3:29:52.640 --> 3:29:58.000 I love me, m M, the day, I love my kids. 3:29:58.600 --> 3:30:01.560 I'm taking the both and you don't you know your thought. 3:30:01.520 --> 3:30:06.080 Changed any of that. I don't have my kids. 3:30:06.840 --> 3:30:09.640 If you change any of that, any of that trajectory, 3:30:10.480 --> 3:30:11.560 I'm not who I am today. 3:30:12.520 --> 3:30:15.760 And so what I learned from that twenty seven years 3:30:16.120 --> 3:30:24.560 was to learn in your own personal life where you are. 3:30:25.680 --> 3:30:34.480 Most folks solve my path as destruction. But there's a 3:30:34.560 --> 3:30:39.720 difference between destruction and construction. When you see a building 3:30:39.840 --> 3:30:43.400 implode like the nine one one not a level head. 3:30:43.920 --> 3:30:47.680 It took five, ten, fifteen seconds for them things to 3:30:47.760 --> 3:30:50.320 be out of there. If they were to building things back, 3:30:50.440 --> 3:30:53.080 it would take years for those things. 3:30:53.320 --> 3:30:58.600 So destruction is like this. Construction takes a while. 3:31:00.000 --> 3:31:04.240 And I had when I had that accident, My moment 3:31:04.320 --> 3:31:07.039 of destruction was instantaneous. 3:31:07.400 --> 3:31:11.360 But had I known that, every day after that, I 3:31:11.560 --> 3:31:15.920 was in construction mode getting here, I could have. 3:31:15.879 --> 3:31:18.959 Had a better time at it, you know what I mean. 3:31:19.800 --> 3:31:24.400 But who I am today, I got a lot of 3:31:24.480 --> 3:31:25.480 respect for that dude. 3:31:25.640 --> 3:31:27.560 Man, I got a lot of respect for that guy 3:31:27.720 --> 3:31:30.320 because he's a stand up guy. Not too many of 3:31:30.360 --> 3:31:33.760 the motherfuckers exist. I'm not a thug nigga, but I 3:31:33.800 --> 3:31:36.840 don't have no fear of thug niggas. I'm just a 3:31:36.920 --> 3:31:37.480 good nigga. 3:31:39.280 --> 3:31:42.959 That it is the very nast. 3:31:43.560 --> 3:31:46.199 It's not even a question. It's not even a question, 3:31:46.280 --> 3:31:51.560 it's a statement. Do you remember me? You Corruptiz believe 3:31:51.600 --> 3:31:52.080 in Nick Dog? 3:31:52.879 --> 3:31:53.080 Yeah. 3:31:53.080 --> 3:31:56.080 I came hung out with me in the Bronx. And then, 3:31:56.800 --> 3:31:59.000 well I did not know. I did not know New 3:31:59.080 --> 3:32:03.080 York City was starting to become like gang banging, right, 3:32:04.040 --> 3:32:07.920 So a dude drove through. I remember, a crypt killer 3:32:08.800 --> 3:32:16.280 I had never seen. They lost a fucking dask gave 3:32:16.360 --> 3:32:17.600 him a mac t and I was like, you don't know, 3:32:18.440 --> 3:32:21.680 but because the guy was just driving through, and and like, 3:32:21.840 --> 3:32:25.720 you know New York at the time, we were right, 3:32:26.320 --> 3:32:31.880 I don't know we were We were fucking I gotta 3:32:31.879 --> 3:32:38.039 say we, even though I wasn't. And and then we chilled. 3:32:38.400 --> 3:32:39.160 What was we at? 3:32:39.600 --> 3:32:41.560 We was in the Bronx, he was in the Bronx. 3:32:41.320 --> 3:32:43.599 With see the baseball stadium. 3:32:44.800 --> 3:32:47.320 Right there, And then we was right there at that 3:32:47.440 --> 3:32:51.240 corner store. That's when the guy came CA that's crazy. 3:32:51.520 --> 3:32:51.720 Yes. 3:32:52.879 --> 3:32:55.320 And but by the way, I was like, oh, because 3:32:55.360 --> 3:33:02.520 I didn't understand the series biness of what had just happened. 3:33:02.720 --> 3:33:06.320 And the guy I knew. His name is O. G. Mack. 3:33:06.720 --> 3:33:11.680 He's a great guy. He did this every day he 3:33:11.760 --> 3:33:15.039 didn't know there was no actual crips. He was gonna 3:33:15.040 --> 3:33:17.280 be on the block. He was doing that. He was 3:33:17.320 --> 3:33:19.640 just doing like that. That was just what it was 3:33:19.920 --> 3:33:23.440 at the time. I'm sorry. And I remember we leaving 3:33:23.520 --> 3:33:25.480 there and then I brung everybody into my crib. You 3:33:25.520 --> 3:33:27.560 remember you came to my crib. You came to my 3:33:27.840 --> 3:33:31.560 actual real house, and I invited to everyone. We had 3:33:31.560 --> 3:33:34.560 a barbecue each other and I was. 3:33:34.600 --> 3:33:39.240 Apologized because that was a bad company. I was not 3:33:39.400 --> 3:33:42.280 the one that bend you wanted to. 3:33:42.360 --> 3:33:43.680 Mac was like, give me the gun. I was like, 3:33:43.720 --> 3:33:52.400 with a minute, d c bro, Like, but but yeah, 3:33:52.400 --> 3:33:57.440 I'm gonna be honest, thank y'all, man, you know, because 3:33:58.280 --> 3:34:07.160 what I knew there's no such thing as a as 3:34:07.200 --> 3:34:14.240 A didn't who you are in LA and who we 3:34:14.440 --> 3:34:17.720 were in New York the same fun that's right, bro, 3:34:17.920 --> 3:34:23.400 And like it was just it was you said it earlier. 3:34:23.560 --> 3:34:27.000 I felt like it really was. The magazine kind of 3:34:27.240 --> 3:34:31.400 like told us that we were different. Like even if 3:34:31.440 --> 3:34:34.240 you look at the Source of Wars and you look 3:34:34.280 --> 3:34:40.160 at that ship, even okay, Source Awars was a magazine company, 3:34:41.320 --> 3:34:45.880 you know what I mean. But I felt love my 3:34:46.040 --> 3:34:50.680 first time going to la I felt, I felt they 3:34:50.800 --> 3:34:53.880 funcked with me. I felt I fucked with them. 3:34:54.920 --> 3:35:01.360 But then when I read yes, hip hop was everybody 3:35:01.440 --> 3:35:03.119 loved it. If you loved hip hop, you was loving 3:35:03.120 --> 3:35:05.480 it from wherever you were at. If you was dope 3:35:05.520 --> 3:35:08.600 over in Chicago, you was dope in Atlanta, la Is 3:35:08.840 --> 3:35:10.600 wherever the fuck. If you was into it, you was 3:35:10.680 --> 3:35:13.080 into it man. And the media started to say, now, well, 3:35:13.120 --> 3:35:15.240 you know what, there's this region, there's this region, is 3:35:15.240 --> 3:35:16.599 this region, and y'alln'. 3:35:16.280 --> 3:35:18.080 Get along with this guy. Y'all don't get along with 3:35:18.160 --> 3:35:18.879 this guy's. 3:35:19.000 --> 3:35:29.520 Marketing and promotion media UH focused bs BS is what 3:35:29.840 --> 3:35:32.080 drives this country. 3:35:32.840 --> 3:35:36.760 And I used this analogy when I try to talk 3:35:36.800 --> 3:35:43.680 to folks about it, how the system uses UH marketing 3:35:43.760 --> 3:35:47.200 and promotion to lean on motherfuckers. 3:35:49.200 --> 3:35:55.080 You can see what America, and I'll saying this to 3:35:55.120 --> 3:35:59.480 you guys earlier. You can see what America. 3:35:59.120 --> 3:36:03.640 Did to us, right, the black and the browns of 3:36:03.840 --> 3:36:06.840 us that are in this space. You can see our 3:36:06.959 --> 3:36:11.280 bruises and our weapons. You can see our communities tore 3:36:11.400 --> 3:36:14.800 up and struggle. You can't see what America did to 3:36:14.879 --> 3:36:18.160 them white folks, but their pain is there too, and 3:36:18.240 --> 3:36:21.720 it's killing them right now because they can't face it. 3:36:21.840 --> 3:36:25.600 They've even and it is destroying. 3:36:25.800 --> 3:36:29.680 They are beginning to eat themselves from the inside. Imagine 3:36:29.760 --> 3:36:33.320 being that seven year old young person that your mother 3:36:33.400 --> 3:36:36.000 and father took you to the Big Neck where they 3:36:36.040 --> 3:36:40.640 were hanging negroes and cutting their bodies off and eating them. 3:36:41.400 --> 3:36:44.680 Imagine being that kid who's a grown grown up person 3:36:44.840 --> 3:36:49.600 now living with this in there. What that's doing to 3:36:49.680 --> 3:36:51.840 you on inside? You know, I mean, you can't say 3:36:52.200 --> 3:36:55.360 it's wrong, blah blah blah. It's a whole lot of 3:36:55.440 --> 3:36:58.320 them folks out there that's dying on inside, right, you know. 3:36:58.560 --> 3:37:06.600 And so what what embracing the spiritual aspect of my 3:37:06.680 --> 3:37:08.679 life now made me understand. 3:37:09.160 --> 3:37:13.640 Is we are all in this movie together. 3:37:14.400 --> 3:37:17.440 And Shod don't have step kids, right because he just 3:37:17.520 --> 3:37:20.640 as kids, but we all have roles to play in 3:37:20.840 --> 3:37:21.400 his movie. 3:37:22.160 --> 3:37:25.560 He's the great writer of this movie. And so just 3:37:25.760 --> 3:37:27.720 like Ethan Hawker. 3:37:28.920 --> 3:37:32.200 And then said in Training Day, in that movie they 3:37:32.320 --> 3:37:35.600 trying to kill each other at the Academy Awards, they 3:37:35.720 --> 3:37:38.080 stand on the on the stage and the hug and 3:37:38.720 --> 3:37:43.240 their friends because they realize that's the roles that they're 3:37:43.280 --> 3:37:46.720 playing in the movie scripts for them, and so just 3:37:46.879 --> 3:37:50.680 like us as human beings, when we reach that stage, 3:37:51.080 --> 3:37:53.480 when we finally get to that stage, we're gonna be 3:37:53.520 --> 3:37:55.920 able to kick it together because we would have played 3:37:55.959 --> 3:37:58.560 our part in this movie, hopefully to the best of 3:37:58.640 --> 3:38:02.320 our ability. When we get to that stage, that grace, 3:38:02.360 --> 3:38:04.720 if we understand we did our part, we can get 3:38:04.760 --> 3:38:06.039 our Academy award. 3:38:05.760 --> 3:38:07.520 And kick it well. 3:38:07.680 --> 3:38:09.240 DC, let me just tell you something. 3:38:11.800 --> 3:38:16.800 Yeah, that's that's the only academy h I used to 3:38:16.879 --> 3:38:19.240 really be into that shit. 3:38:19.320 --> 3:38:19.720 I got one. 3:38:19.840 --> 3:38:22.440 I can't wait to stay on the stage and think 3:38:22.520 --> 3:38:24.960 that d D. It doesn't mean as much to me 3:38:25.280 --> 3:38:30.120 anymore because when you see through the veil and you 3:38:30.320 --> 3:38:36.240 understand what it's really about, what what what it really means, 3:38:36.440 --> 3:38:42.080 and how all of this depth, destruction, devradation can exist 3:38:42.280 --> 3:38:47.400 in this space and nobody say nothing until one day 3:38:48.200 --> 3:38:52.760 something happens and now everything pops out. Now everybody got 3:38:52.800 --> 3:38:55.400 something to say about it. You've been holding onto. 3:38:55.200 --> 3:38:56.640 That doll for thirty years. 3:38:57.240 --> 3:39:00.200 Now you want a cookie because you got all these 3:39:00.240 --> 3:39:01.400 secrets you want to spell. 3:39:02.040 --> 3:39:05.480 There's no intivity in that, right, you know now? Yet 3:39:05.560 --> 3:39:06.360 now I feel like. 3:39:06.440 --> 3:39:10.040 You're trying to capitalize on stuff on that person's pain, 3:39:10.560 --> 3:39:13.200 and the best way you can do it. If if 3:39:13.280 --> 3:39:16.240 you were trying to be this altruistic person, you had 3:39:16.280 --> 3:39:18.920 plenty of time to do that. You know, if you 3:39:19.000 --> 3:39:21.120 was trying to get get your rocks off and do 3:39:21.200 --> 3:39:23.160 the right thing and be the right you had plenty 3:39:23.160 --> 3:39:25.520 of time to do that. Never kick him on fucker 3:39:25.560 --> 3:39:27.959 when he's downright, because you never know when you're gonna 3:39:27.959 --> 3:39:28.440 be down there. 3:39:28.480 --> 3:39:30.480 Right, and everybody's gonna have the opportunity to be down 3:39:30.560 --> 3:39:32.119 that's right, every single person. 3:39:32.320 --> 3:39:35.960 We all get those chances. And I never was the 3:39:36.000 --> 3:39:38.119 one thing I was saying earlier about my movie. 3:39:38.480 --> 3:39:42.600 I never said one single negative thing about any person. 3:39:43.120 --> 3:39:46.080 It's like that ride. I took all of this on 3:39:46.320 --> 3:39:49.680 me because it was my It's Mara, you get you 3:39:49.840 --> 3:39:50.520 niggas get no. 3:39:51.080 --> 3:39:53.480 Even when you said you said something about Sugar, you said, 3:39:53.720 --> 3:39:55.480 I'm going to the bad to say about Sugar. He 3:39:55.480 --> 3:39:57.280 took my credit and he took my money, and you 3:39:57.440 --> 3:39:59.320 still didn't say nothing bad about him. He was like, 3:40:00.040 --> 3:40:02.400 but uh, that's my fault. You, that's right, said, cause 3:40:02.520 --> 3:40:05.400 you you have to have your business together. And I 3:40:05.520 --> 3:40:09.080 thought that was remarkable for you to even state something 3:40:09.160 --> 3:40:09.320 like that. 3:40:09.680 --> 3:40:12.400 Bro, you gotta learn I'm not the first one. I 3:40:12.440 --> 3:40:15.680 won't be the last one, you know. I'm just the 3:40:15.760 --> 3:40:18.240 one that's gonna tell it. I'm gonna tell it from 3:40:18.280 --> 3:40:21.000 my perspective so that the new one's coming up. No, 3:40:21.440 --> 3:40:25.720 it's not your you can you can't put you have 3:40:25.840 --> 3:40:29.880 to protect you. The machine is gonna always be the machine, 3:40:30.280 --> 3:40:32.640 cause that's what it was made to be. It was 3:40:32.760 --> 3:40:36.480 not designed and built to feed you. It was a 3:40:36.480 --> 3:40:39.840 little sign and built to steal from you, right, And 3:40:39.920 --> 3:40:43.320 it's great at it and it's going to continue. 3:40:42.959 --> 3:40:43.800 To be great at it. 3:40:44.200 --> 3:40:48.680 So you have to, uh educate yourself on your power, 3:40:49.400 --> 3:40:53.400 educate yourself on your worth. And when you make something 3:40:53.440 --> 3:40:57.440 that's beautiful, you don't let these motherfuckers tell you it's 3:40:57.520 --> 3:40:58.760 worth this because the. 3:40:58.840 --> 3:41:02.800 Market said this. Man, damn the market, and the market 3:41:02.840 --> 3:41:06.680 can kiss my ass. I don't get back, you know 3:41:06.720 --> 3:41:09.560 what I'm saying about. Now, you're gonna give me what 3:41:10.000 --> 3:41:12.720 I think my art is worth and then we can 3:41:12.800 --> 3:41:16.840 talk business. That's man. I don't blame you for being you. 3:41:17.440 --> 3:41:17.680 You're not. 3:41:17.800 --> 3:41:20.480 Don't blame me for being me. You know you can't 3:41:20.520 --> 3:41:24.560 blackball me because I know the real boss. You know, 3:41:24.840 --> 3:41:26.400 it's a g O D that ain't known. Let me 3:41:26.480 --> 3:41:27.800 pray on your one fucking hand. 3:41:27.959 --> 3:41:34.480 So that's your g Is this documentary leading to a 3:41:34.600 --> 3:41:38.240 book and the book leading to the full fledged feature film? 3:41:38.360 --> 3:41:40.800 Oh yeah, because I ain't gonna lie. Look, I told 3:41:40.840 --> 3:41:43.520 you earlier. I said that, I mentioned it earlier. I 3:41:43.720 --> 3:41:46.360 was like, after Washing the NBA movie, I was like, 3:41:46.879 --> 3:41:49.879 where does it take it from there? But then Washington documentary, 3:41:49.920 --> 3:41:51.600 I was like, wait a minute, you ain't. 3:41:51.440 --> 3:41:54.000 Got when you watch it and I say this humble 3:42:00.040 --> 3:42:02.040 out of content. The movie is not fucking with this 3:42:03.040 --> 3:42:04.160 thing because. 3:42:03.920 --> 3:42:06.000 It's the story, bro, the true story. 3:42:06.120 --> 3:42:08.520 Yeah, it's the story. It's wonderful that comes. 3:42:08.600 --> 3:42:12.240 It's a movie. It's a movie that is is extracting 3:42:12.640 --> 3:42:13.840 to gor dumb facts. 3:42:14.040 --> 3:42:14.400 The guys. 3:42:14.480 --> 3:42:15.920 I love that movie. I love trailer. 3:42:16.120 --> 3:42:18.000 It's a great movie. But it's a movie. Yours is 3:42:18.000 --> 3:42:21.040 a documentary. You co signed the movie, right, Yeah? 3:42:21.920 --> 3:42:22.320 The movie. 3:42:22.440 --> 3:42:25.000 Yeah, that's a movie. As a Hollywood movie. 3:42:25.000 --> 3:42:27.680 I went to the movie and did mushrooms in the movie, 3:42:28.440 --> 3:42:29.000 and I thought I. 3:42:33.920 --> 3:42:34.200 Thought it. 3:42:34.480 --> 3:42:39.119 I thought it was great. The last five minutes when 3:42:39.160 --> 3:42:40.800 that ship started to kick in, I was like. 3:42:41.680 --> 3:42:45.400 Oh, no, no, but that's your real that But there's 3:42:45.440 --> 3:42:47.920 only five people in the world who could probably relate 3:42:47.959 --> 3:42:50.560 to those last five minutes of that movie, which you 3:42:50.680 --> 3:42:54.560 didn't like, but probably what we love is probably like 3:42:55.480 --> 3:42:58.640 to get this inside information. It's ship that you probably knew. 3:42:59.000 --> 3:43:00.879 No, I'm talking about them. I show kick. 3:43:04.320 --> 3:43:08.039 Because the show the screen got big, moving. 3:43:07.760 --> 3:43:10.440 And ship down on the floor. 3:43:10.520 --> 3:43:10.680 Man. 3:43:11.720 --> 3:43:14.600 My wife was like, man, Kit show as you don't 3:43:14.600 --> 3:43:15.320 show anymore. 3:43:15.720 --> 3:43:19.760 No, I smoke wig, you know, but I try to 3:43:19.800 --> 3:43:23.640 stay far enough away from something that's gonna lead somewhere 3:43:24.520 --> 3:43:26.119 because it ain't gonna it would bro. 3:43:28.160 --> 3:43:31.120 That monkey get out the bag. Man, it's he's a 3:43:31.240 --> 3:43:37.600 cold motor scooter because yeah, I let him have it, 3:43:38.040 --> 3:43:38.280 you know. 3:43:39.040 --> 3:43:43.280 But I enjoyed the movement. Took my wife to say it, uh, 3:43:43.840 --> 3:43:48.480 and we enjoyed it. When I get the opportunity to 3:43:48.600 --> 3:43:52.519 do mine, i'd rather be a series. 3:43:53.280 --> 3:43:55.960 Because you almost did it in the documentary. It's like 3:43:56.120 --> 3:43:57.959 it's like reenactments in the documentary. 3:43:58.040 --> 3:44:00.520 That's right, And there's a lot of stuff that I 3:44:00.600 --> 3:44:03.440 shot that I couldn't use. Really, story is too big, 3:44:03.560 --> 3:44:04.240 it's too meaty. 3:44:04.520 --> 3:44:06.920 You only get an hour and a half. I never 3:44:07.040 --> 3:44:08.040 talked about Atlanta. 3:44:08.320 --> 3:44:11.040 Remember when I told you about having the rap packing 3:44:11.080 --> 3:44:13.880 the little Chad, I didn't talk about any of that 3:44:14.560 --> 3:44:17.320 and have time, you know, I can remember. 3:44:17.120 --> 3:44:17.480 Being in. 3:44:19.280 --> 3:44:21.760 Dy y'all called yourself a rap pack for real, Like. 3:44:22.040 --> 3:44:25.800 I'm just used that terminology because everybody was kind of 3:44:26.440 --> 3:44:28.039 stars all that. 3:44:28.240 --> 3:44:32.080 Like like the old rat pack. Those correct, right, you see. 3:44:32.040 --> 3:44:36.120 Chad, you see pimps and scarface and too short and 3:44:36.280 --> 3:44:37.519 breed and box. 3:44:37.360 --> 3:44:39.800 Because when you said chat, you're talking about yeah right there. 3:44:41.160 --> 3:44:43.560 And man, we was riding. We was around that motherfucker 3:44:43.680 --> 3:44:44.040 kicking it. 3:44:44.600 --> 3:44:49.039 That must have been crazy. I stole the cameras following 3:44:49.080 --> 3:44:49.920 your deal. 3:44:50.160 --> 3:44:53.240 So I had some money. Come on. You couldn't tell 3:44:53.360 --> 3:44:59.320 me nothing, but those were some of the best times, 3:44:59.840 --> 3:45:00.920 just your good. 3:45:04.000 --> 3:45:04.320 Not that. 3:45:07.120 --> 3:45:09.600 It was it was you know, it was in god Rest. 3:45:10.480 --> 3:45:17.680 Uh hm. We we lost a lot of great men 3:45:19.000 --> 3:45:23.359 two bullshit. 3:45:24.240 --> 3:45:25.080 So now. 3:45:26.520 --> 3:45:28.720 We want to save as many as we can. Bro 3:45:29.520 --> 3:45:33.160 We the gangster ship is about saving us. 3:45:33.720 --> 3:45:34.879 That's the most gangster. 3:45:34.760 --> 3:45:40.200 Thing because it's odds glory, come on in, because I 3:45:40.320 --> 3:45:46.360 don't think being uh somebody that that loves and respects 3:45:46.720 --> 3:45:48.840 their spirituality, it's soft. 3:45:50.040 --> 3:45:51.640 Go back to uh. 3:45:53.000 --> 3:45:58.080 Samson or Moses or David. You know all of those 3:45:58.280 --> 3:46:01.800 was real niggas that did real nigga said, you know. 3:46:02.320 --> 3:46:04.640 Jesus is real. He was coming niggas up for selling 3:46:04.680 --> 3:46:07.959 fake bibles. Come on, that world up. He was starting 3:46:08.040 --> 3:46:10.800 niggas out for some of the fake bibles. There bibles. 3:46:10.920 --> 3:46:13.360 If he was selling fake bibles, Jesus came through with 3:46:13.440 --> 3:46:17.680 a hoodie on. That's a lie. Oh sir, No, man, 3:46:17.720 --> 3:46:21.000 there was no Bible. But yeah, the Bible came after 3:46:21.040 --> 3:46:24.400 you read the Bible. Come on, you definitely never read 3:46:24.440 --> 3:46:29.000 the Bible. I read the Bible. Was in jail. Everybody 3:46:29.040 --> 3:46:32.120 beat the Bible Testament. He was beating them up for 3:46:32.160 --> 3:46:32.840 the Old Testament. 3:46:33.879 --> 3:46:36.800 That's the really I heard. When you get in there, 3:46:36.800 --> 3:46:37.480 and that you get that. 3:46:37.600 --> 3:46:42.800 Timebody become religious in jail for some reason. 3:46:42.840 --> 3:46:43.920 He already said. 3:46:46.240 --> 3:46:50.960 Everything is divine because one day in your life you 3:46:51.080 --> 3:46:53.160 might have a moment when you say when you talk 3:46:53.240 --> 3:46:55.480 to him, you said, God, if you get me out 3:46:55.520 --> 3:46:57.680 of this ship, we all do it. 3:46:58.120 --> 3:47:01.040 And I said to him, you, I asked several of those. 3:47:01.400 --> 3:47:05.680 Yeah, I might have had seventeen thousand, man, those. 3:47:06.080 --> 3:47:08.080 Yo did if I can get down from this side 3:47:08.920 --> 3:47:14.039 I never climbed back up here no more. And that's 3:47:14.160 --> 3:47:17.600 real life, man, no matter what yours is. You know 3:47:17.640 --> 3:47:20.360 what I mean, whether it's. 3:47:20.320 --> 3:47:26.480 Bydism okay, Jesus Per cam Ry, Okay, you know we 3:47:26.600 --> 3:47:30.240 did say do you have on the instance if I 3:47:30.360 --> 3:47:34.160 do pussy? Oh my goodness, crazy, I want to go there, 3:47:34.640 --> 3:47:45.320 I got, I got those all over there. You know 3:47:45.400 --> 3:47:48.680 what's crazy? I feel like the more I drink, he's 3:47:48.800 --> 3:47:54.720 drunker for the more I dream. 3:47:55.320 --> 3:47:57.240 Now, that's what I say. That would love and respect. 3:47:57.320 --> 3:48:04.360 That's absolutely because my wife knows. She was what's that 3:48:04.480 --> 3:48:04.840 called a. 3:48:07.400 --> 3:48:09.920 Dude. My dude delivered my my child. 3:48:10.040 --> 3:48:12.760 Wow, yeah, that gangster. 3:48:13.360 --> 3:48:15.480 My my first wife delivered. 3:48:16.080 --> 3:48:17.840 So she had to be there through the whole process, 3:48:17.959 --> 3:48:21.400 even before the child was born. Like so, and that's 3:48:21.480 --> 3:48:23.720 we're talking about like a like an artist. What is 3:48:23.760 --> 3:48:24.920 that librity that's doing that? 3:48:25.240 --> 3:48:27.760 Your child delivered in a jazi Like, no, this is. 3:48:28.320 --> 3:48:30.560 Well it doesn't always mean that, but yeah it was 3:48:30.720 --> 3:48:34.240 it was in our case. Yeah, my son was born 3:48:34.320 --> 3:48:34.879 that way as well. 3:48:35.120 --> 3:48:36.480 Now we was, we was doing it. 3:48:40.000 --> 3:48:42.720 I do say she wanted to deliver, that's crazy. 3:48:43.000 --> 3:48:46.119 And my wife was like, okay, I want I think 3:48:46.200 --> 3:48:47.840 I can do a natural birth. 3:48:47.920 --> 3:48:52.160 I was like, okay, that's no, no, no, no epidural 3:48:52.320 --> 3:48:53.000 no nothing. 3:48:54.200 --> 3:48:57.000 Yeah, my wife and that man with both my kids. No, 3:48:57.120 --> 3:49:01.360 my my second, my second, my mam most feral, not 3:49:01.560 --> 3:49:04.000 monster she was. She didn't drink any monster. 3:49:04.080 --> 3:49:04.120 No. 3:49:05.240 --> 3:49:06.560 Ay, we were have supported. 3:49:07.600 --> 3:49:10.440 My wife was in the last moment that she was. 3:49:12.840 --> 3:49:15.040 Bouncing on this little bottle when she thought she had 3:49:15.080 --> 3:49:17.880 made a mistake, you know, like she's like, I don't 3:49:17.960 --> 3:49:20.800 think I could do it. But I was like, nigga, 3:49:21.360 --> 3:49:23.800 youah man, I'm squeezing out here. No, you're finna do 3:49:23.880 --> 3:49:24.960 this ship you know? 3:49:26.040 --> 3:49:26.760 Is her first? 3:49:27.360 --> 3:49:29.440 Is it her first child? That was the second one, 3:49:29.640 --> 3:49:31.960 because they said the second one is easier. We tried 3:49:31.960 --> 3:49:34.080 to do it the first and my wife couldn't do it. 3:49:34.400 --> 3:49:37.720 No, my this was our second. The first one she 3:49:37.840 --> 3:49:38.840 got shot and. 3:49:39.080 --> 3:49:42.000 I guess she thought she got what she got the yeah, 3:49:42.480 --> 3:49:44.760 but my wife tried to do it and then and 3:49:44.960 --> 3:49:47.440 my daughter was she wasn't coming out, so they had 3:49:47.480 --> 3:49:48.480 to take her to the hospital. 3:49:48.520 --> 3:49:49.640 They had to give her that pdurable. 3:49:49.920 --> 3:49:53.120 Yeah. No, the first one she took the shot, but 3:49:53.320 --> 3:49:54.360 the second one, I. 3:49:54.400 --> 3:49:57.520 Guess the Erica talked to him gave her the battle. 3:49:57.840 --> 3:50:01.240 Yeah, somebody was so said I'm gonna do that's okay. 3:50:02.080 --> 3:50:04.240 No, but. 3:50:06.480 --> 3:50:08.960 You she stopped him and said, I don't think I 3:50:09.040 --> 3:50:11.760 can do it. And when we didn't came this far, nigga, 3:50:11.760 --> 3:50:15.000 you're finna do this like we we ain't finna. We 3:50:15.040 --> 3:50:17.440 ain't having no mishaps. You're finna get my sons to 3:50:17.520 --> 3:50:18.720 this motherfucker right now. 3:50:19.320 --> 3:50:24.960 And we and it was about two seconds after that 3:50:25.120 --> 3:50:27.040 that little dude just he just. 3:50:27.160 --> 3:50:31.000 Dove out of that mama in the water in the water. 3:50:31.680 --> 3:50:32.840 No, she had got out. 3:50:33.360 --> 3:50:34.840 Oh shit, oh god, she. 3:50:35.200 --> 3:50:38.480 Out because it wasn't happening. She thought we was gonna 3:50:38.480 --> 3:50:41.960 have to rush rushed to the to the hospital because 3:50:42.000 --> 3:50:42.800 it hadn't happened. 3:50:43.000 --> 3:50:45.480 And half time, we ain't got time to be doing 3:50:45.560 --> 3:50:48.440 no rusting. You're finna, We're finna do this. And I'm 3:50:48.520 --> 3:50:50.120 right here with her, you know what I mean, Like 3:50:50.520 --> 3:50:51.400 I'm not letting you go. 3:50:51.560 --> 3:50:52.240 We're finna do this. 3:50:52.840 --> 3:50:56.160 And it took about another couple of minutes and she 3:50:56.600 --> 3:51:00.760 she leaned over and crawled onto the bed and like 3:51:00.920 --> 3:51:03.840 in a doggie styling, dude just came up out of there, 3:51:04.160 --> 3:51:05.360 and by dude called him. 3:51:07.960 --> 3:51:09.520 I got all that shot take. 3:51:15.760 --> 3:51:19.280 Because you like the incense at that time. Then we 3:51:19.360 --> 3:51:24.080 didn't have no PU that day. That would have been 3:51:27.280 --> 3:51:30.680 I mean, he said, but bro, I don't look. 3:51:30.760 --> 3:51:32.880 Let me tell you something I do. It is a master. 3:51:34.200 --> 3:51:34.560 Marketer. 3:51:36.400 --> 3:51:39.920 She's a great business person. Nothing that she does is 3:51:40.000 --> 3:51:43.800 by happenstance. And folks, when they get off into that ship, 3:51:43.880 --> 3:51:45.600 you probably making that day of. 3:51:45.720 --> 3:51:49.040 Course, man. And so I'm a player, play along and 3:51:49.200 --> 3:51:52.080 give up. I'm gonna always do this because most people 3:51:52.160 --> 3:51:54.440 that know me and love me know I'm gonna be 3:51:55.320 --> 3:51:57.560 you know, we just don't push the wrong button because 3:51:57.640 --> 3:52:00.000 then it's all fucked up with just why I don't 3:52:00.680 --> 3:52:04.800 She was not the ass folks or anything, because I 3:52:04.840 --> 3:52:07.600 don't want you to push that wrong button. And I 3:52:07.720 --> 3:52:09.480 have to feel a certain kind of way about you. 3:52:09.800 --> 3:52:13.760 She is sagittarius, she's a pis okay, but that was 3:52:13.800 --> 3:52:18.120 another part of the documentary that made me tear up 3:52:18.640 --> 3:52:24.200 was when y'are sitting down y'all talking and she says, 3:52:24.240 --> 3:52:24.640 I hear you. 3:52:24.880 --> 3:52:26.000 Yeah, that was cold. 3:52:26.120 --> 3:52:28.400 She said, I hear you, bro, I hear you. Oh, 3:52:28.480 --> 3:52:30.600 I hear you that. 3:52:31.560 --> 3:52:36.880 Look. All of this documentary was just moments being shy, 3:52:37.400 --> 3:52:43.200 so it's real. And when she said that, Nigga, I'm 3:52:43.400 --> 3:52:44.600 my back to the thing. 3:52:44.720 --> 3:52:48.680 Remember, I'm like, oh, I'm like, by the way, I'm 3:52:48.720 --> 3:52:50.520 cursing you out. By the way, I'm like, I can't 3:52:50.600 --> 3:52:54.320 wait to see this. Mother fuckers got me tearing up crazy. 3:52:55.200 --> 3:52:57.920 And when she said that she was and then she 3:52:58.080 --> 3:53:01.520 missed your daughter and she said she hears you, and 3:53:01.640 --> 3:53:04.400 then I was just like damn. Then after that, I 3:53:04.480 --> 3:53:07.960 can't give you no more? Yeah, bro, what Dray says? 3:53:08.040 --> 3:53:08.400 After that? 3:53:08.720 --> 3:53:11.240 After that, I can't give you no more. But that 3:53:11.360 --> 3:53:15.160 ship was just like, oh, your support system is real. 3:53:15.400 --> 3:53:21.720 Yeah, Like like they like, I want to and let 3:53:22.280 --> 3:53:25.440 let me involve us because we're a part of your 3:53:25.480 --> 3:53:31.560 support system too, right. We love your motherfucking assn't want 3:53:31.600 --> 3:53:38.280 you to because I watched it, even though I watched 3:53:38.280 --> 3:53:41.320 it without you, and I know how much of a 3:53:41.840 --> 3:53:46.840 l a fucking West Coast fan you all come from. 3:53:47.000 --> 3:53:51.640 You're like that much more than me, right, But I 3:53:51.760 --> 3:53:57.000 watched it with you in mind, and I was like, man, 3:53:57.400 --> 3:54:00.800 I can't, I can't. I couldn't wait to get your flowers. 3:54:01.360 --> 3:54:07.400 We couldn't wait because it's something that Snoop said again 3:54:08.360 --> 3:54:13.720 in the documentary that Snoop said, because the deoc ain't 3:54:13.800 --> 3:54:18.800 having that ship, except he's like, he's like, what we 3:54:18.960 --> 3:54:22.760 knew on this ship was done wrong. The d oc 3:54:22.920 --> 3:54:30.040 ain't being quiet. And I love that. I love. I 3:54:30.160 --> 3:54:36.000 love your peers or people that may be younger than 3:54:36.080 --> 3:54:41.480 you and something that's older. Don't mind giving you your 3:54:41.520 --> 3:54:42.560 motherfucking flowers. 3:54:43.800 --> 3:54:45.360 And just so you know. 3:54:46.920 --> 3:54:54.760 We are aren't it to give you your mother's play. 3:54:54.880 --> 3:54:58.520 And I know you gotta go so so we're gonna 3:54:58.640 --> 3:55:01.000 take a couple of flicks and get you to sign 3:55:01.040 --> 3:55:03.400 a couple of things. Because listen, let me just tell 3:55:03.400 --> 3:55:05.960 you something. This nigga got your here. That's the original. 3:55:07.080 --> 3:55:09.840 I bought these when I was a little kiss, got 3:55:09.920 --> 3:55:11.200 these when I got my turntable. 3:55:11.480 --> 3:55:15.880 He ain't even have pubics. That's actually facts. 3:55:16.680 --> 3:55:20.520 With what else that's a little bit too much information. 3:55:20.720 --> 3:55:28.760 But I love and respect you gentlemen so much beyond 3:55:30.320 --> 3:55:35.240 the moniker of hip hop as men. That's about this business, 3:55:35.600 --> 3:55:38.880 that's about this culture. I think that's strong and powerful 3:55:38.960 --> 3:55:43.600 man in their own right. I watched Shrik drink Champs religiously. 3:55:43.680 --> 3:55:47.040 I was doing my homework because I knew that question 3:55:47.280 --> 3:55:49.880 was coming for snoop. 3:55:51.640 --> 3:55:52.800 We're gonna drink. We're gonna drink. 3:55:54.120 --> 3:55:57.640 But what you guys have here, you guys are really 3:55:57.760 --> 3:56:01.000 the cornerstone for what us folks are being able to 3:56:01.080 --> 3:56:02.320 do in this space. 3:56:02.640 --> 3:56:04.880 Oh you know what I mean. WEP for a lot 3:56:04.960 --> 3:56:07.960 of used to get these big ass bags that they 3:56:08.080 --> 3:56:09.240 getting these days. Thank you. 3:56:09.880 --> 3:56:14.160 So I want you to just take them a shot 3:56:14.240 --> 3:56:17.560 for him, get some love. Let's take a shot together. 3:56:18.000 --> 3:56:20.800 He set you up, He set you up. Shot together. 3:56:21.440 --> 3:56:23.440 Come on, you got a bigger ass shot. 3:56:23.520 --> 3:56:26.680 That's better to get you a monster. Deal with drinking 3:56:26.720 --> 3:56:36.320 the monster last night you read. So let's ended like 3:56:36.400 --> 3:56:41.240 this and let's just say no one could do it better. 3:56:41.640 --> 3:56:45.000 No one could do it better. Man, d o C. 3:56:46.000 --> 3:56:52.440 I pray, I wish. I hope everyone gets to see 3:56:52.480 --> 3:56:56.320 this documentary just again. You said that, you say this 3:56:56.400 --> 3:56:59.800 is a fifty year old guy from Kansas. That's a 3:57:00.200 --> 3:57:03.440 that's gonna relate to this. And I'm gonna tell you something. 3:57:04.560 --> 3:57:07.920 It's an eight year old from Kansas, it's gonna relate 3:57:08.000 --> 3:57:13.320 to it. There's an eighty eight year old from Oklahoma, 3:57:13.560 --> 3:57:16.920 it's gonna relate to it. This is a worldwide, universal 3:57:17.040 --> 3:57:22.200 story and it's beautiful, Thank you, bro. And not only 3:57:22.280 --> 3:57:32.080 it's beautiful, it's relentless. It's never give up, this triumphant 3:57:32.160 --> 3:57:35.920 stay with who the fuck you are? Stay down because 3:57:36.160 --> 3:57:40.240 it's gonna go down, right. And I loved it. I 3:57:40.400 --> 3:57:43.000 kid you not, man. I cried. 3:57:44.040 --> 3:57:46.480 I cried, and I ain't even I ain't even like 3:57:46.920 --> 3:57:49.640 mad as saying I cried like you shouldn't be. 3:57:50.080 --> 3:57:54.480 I fucking take pride, say. I cried because your story 3:57:54.640 --> 3:57:59.320 is my story. That's right, right, it's not your story alone. 3:58:00.120 --> 3:58:02.160 Claiming it with you, that's right, bro? You know what 3:58:02.200 --> 3:58:05.760 I mean. The same way you claim we're DMC story, 3:58:06.360 --> 3:58:09.800 that's right, and the same way we're supposed to claim 3:58:09.960 --> 3:58:11.920 every single story is. 3:58:12.440 --> 3:58:17.080 I'm with you, brother. I don't what I have to 3:58:17.200 --> 3:58:21.400 do to promote this. You tell me you said we're 3:58:21.440 --> 3:58:22.600 gonna host it. Let's host it. 3:58:24.000 --> 3:58:24.720 We could do it here. 3:58:25.000 --> 3:58:28.080 We can do it in the fucking movie theater. No, No, 3:58:28.240 --> 3:58:29.560 I mean I mean in the movie there. Let's host 3:58:29.600 --> 3:58:34.000 the premiere. Let's let's hold party here. 3:58:34.240 --> 3:58:37.240 Let's let we do what. Let's do it at your 3:58:37.720 --> 3:58:42.600 dispos disposal. No, no, we are at no, No, that's serious. 3:58:42.760 --> 3:58:45.800 We are at your disposal. I do not feel like 3:58:45.960 --> 3:58:48.960 you can't because we are you. 3:58:49.400 --> 3:58:51.240 You already said that. I don't forget ship. 3:58:51.520 --> 3:58:55.320 We are we are you, and we're going to support this. 3:58:56.400 --> 3:59:05.920 So but, but, but most importantly, that's in this. By 3:59:06.040 --> 3:59:11.640 saying thank you, yeah, thank you, thank you, I'm saying 3:59:11.720 --> 3:59:14.240 it for behalf of all of hip hop, not just 3:59:14.400 --> 3:59:17.080 me and EFN and all the people here. I'm saying 3:59:17.120 --> 3:59:22.680 this on behalf of the culture. Thank you, the d 3:59:22.840 --> 3:59:30.240 O CIX. If it wasn't for the y'all, I don't 3:59:30.320 --> 3:59:33.000 think he would be here. I don't think I'll be here. 3:59:33.480 --> 3:59:39.480 I don't think Drain with the motherfucker will be here 3:59:39.600 --> 3:59:42.840 rolling blunts. I don't think anybody who will be here 3:59:43.400 --> 3:59:48.920 because it's the diggy diggy doc y'all. 3:59:49.240 --> 3:59:50.200 Y'all, man, bless you. 3:59:55.120 --> 3:59:58.520 Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production hosts and 3:59:58.640 --> 4:00:02.080 executive producers n O r E and dj E f N. 4:00:03.240 --> 4:00:04.040 Listen to Drink. 4:00:03.920 --> 4:00:08.200 Champs on Apple podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you 4:00:08.360 --> 4:00:12.120 get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us for another episode 4:00:12.160 --> 4:00:14.800 of Drink Champs hosted by Yours truly, DJ E f 4:00:14.960 --> 4:00:17.080 N and n O r E. 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