WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Two Steps Back 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:06.320 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:11.200 the Bengals boot podcast. The One Step Up and Two 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:15.840 Steps Back addition, as the Bengals follow a thrilling win 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.000 over Baltimore with back to back losses to the Jets 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:21.840 and Browns to fall to five and four heading into 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.280 their by coming up, you'll hear radio replays from the loss, 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:29.000 postgame comments from players and coaches, and analysis from my 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:33.040 broadcast partner Dave Lapham. Then, in this week's fun fact segment, 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:35.960 you'll get to know of Bengals rookie who says that 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:39.320 if he could meet anybody in history, he would choose 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:44.920 Leonardo da Vinci. I think you'll enjoy our conversation. 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The Bengals got the ball first 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:54.000 and zipped right down the field, picking up five first 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.960 downs before facing third and goal from the Cleveland three. 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:02.360 That's when Joe Burrow made a rare terrible throw. Joe 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.600 extends the hands, fakes a hand off to p Ryan 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:10.200 throws intercepted sprinting up the near sideline and heading toward 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.640 the middle of the field. Now with the football, it 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:17.560 is Denzel Ward taking at the distance for a Cleveland touchdown. Wow. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.600 The Bengals not only failed to score inside the red zone, 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:26.520 Joe Burrow's former Ohio State teammate, Denzel Ward, stepped in 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.080 front of Jamar Chase at the one yard line and 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:33.400 took it back ninety nine yards for a touchdown. Burrow 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.200 didn't have much to say about wards pick six. You 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:39.400 had a good play. I left it inside a little bit, 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.440 and if you do that to Denzel, he's gonna make 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.280 it pay. If if I play better, we're in that game. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.280 We a chance to win that game. Instant play, Well, 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.120 that's all there is to it. Burrow had his good 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.400 moments too. In fact, after the pick six, he drove 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.600 the Bengals seventy five yards on nine plays to tie 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.360 the game. Toss sweep to the left, mix it looking 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.000 for a running lane. Great Books get to the sidelines, 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:06.440 touchdown Bengals as Mixon takes it eleven yards into the 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:10.239 end zone for the Bengal score. That made it seven seven, 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.760 And at that point, the Bengals had run twenty plays 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:16.200 for one hundred forty one yards before Baker Mayfield had 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.359 even touched the ball. But when the Browns finally took 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:23.720 the field out offense, the Bengals couldn't stop them. Mayfield 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.720 hands it off to Chubb, trying to knife his way in. 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:31.160 No signal yet. The officials charge up the sideline and 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.960 now on the far side of the field, there's a touchdown. Signal. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:39.280 Nick Chubb's two yard run gave Cleveland a fourteen seven lead, 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.680 and that lead grew The next time Cleveland got the ball, 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:47.480 Baker Mayfield under center Nick chubbs seven yards behind. Chubb 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.720 stands straight up and down, no hands on knees. May 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.920 Field fakes to him. Baker flings it deep down FA 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.840 He's got a receiver wide open. Taught at the fifteen 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:01.120 and streaking into the end zone is Donovan People's Jones 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:06.200 for a sixty yard touchdown b d Apple and beat 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.040 him badly. The Browns got rid of O b J 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:14.000 on Friday, but DPJ Donovan People's Jones gave Cleveland a 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:18.000 twenty one seven lead. Both meetings between these two teams 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.679 last year were shootouts, but this time the Bengals kept 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.360 shooting themselves in the foot burrow against a four man rush. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:29.640 Quick throw caught by Chap Paul's knocked out. Cleveland scoops 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.520 it up, running it back to the thirty and take 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.760 it out of bounds at the thirty yard line. John 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.320 Johnson knocked it out of there. Dan john Johnson put 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.120 his hat in his shoulder patch right on the football. 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.720 That's just a deadly tackle, right there. You gotta protect 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.080 the ball that led to a field goal to give 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.960 the Browns at twenty four to seven lead. And if 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.200 you go back to last week's game in New York 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:54.800 and toss out the Jets final drive when they ran 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.240 out the clock, it marked the eighth straight drive where 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:02.960 the opponents scored on Bengals defense. A Nevin McPherson field 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:04.640 goal at the end of the half made it twenty 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:08.440 four to ten Cleveland. Here's Joe Mixon. We just gotta 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.359 come out faster, man, come out faster, Gotta play with 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.359 more intensity, just gotta play Bengals football. And you know, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.520 these last two games, we ain't been able to do that. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.880 It's a lot of frustration, but at the same time, 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.799 we gotta keep everybody together. You gotta keep learning, keep building, 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.679 and uh we gotta prepare better, you know, as players 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.760 take it upon ourselves and just gotta do better. The 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.240 Bengals defense finally forced a punt on the Brown's first 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.400 drive of the third quarter, but the offense wasn't able 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:42.680 to capitalize. Burrow fakes a handball, He's in trouble. Miles 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.480 Garrett blew right around Jonah Williams and sacks Joe Burrow 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.159 back at the twenty four yard line. Oh Mirles Garrett 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.640 was setting setting it up, and Miles Garrett was, He's 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.559 laying in the weeds and then all of a sudden, 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:58.080 you can block him for twenty twenty five plays and 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:59.800 then all of a sudden he comes off the edge 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.760 art on one play. He's got a myriad of moves, 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:06.360 There's no question about it. He's got explosiveness, he's got 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.919 a burst, He's got great hands. Here's one hell of 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.480 a football player. Garrett had one and a half sacks 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.880 to increase his league leading total to twelve. The Browns 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:19.280 had five sacks overall and hit Joe Burrow twelve times. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.599 Here again is mixing me as a running back. You know, 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.480 I hate to see Burrow get hit in the limas 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.320 I hit it too, you know, also as well as 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.080 the tight ends. But we gotta take it up on ourselves, 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.200 you know, and you know, keep Burrow clean. We gotta 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.240 keep him untouched. At that point, the Bengals were still 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.960 within fourteen points. They knew the Browns would try to 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.840 run the ball, but knowing it and stopping it are 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:48.240 two very different things. Mayfield under center chub lines up 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:52.080 seven yards behind tight end. Hooper motions from right to left. 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.320 Mayfield has the ball, hands it off to Chubb, gets 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.520 away from an ankle tackle and look at him go 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.960 see off to the races down the middle of the 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:05.159 field of the twenty the ten touchdown, seventy yards Nick 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:09.760 Chubb to the house. Wow, I'm telling you, Nick Chubb 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.160 can run you over and run away from you. This 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:17.040 guy has got power and he's got speed. Chubb finished 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:20.240 with one hundred thirty seven yards and only fourteen carries 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.600 in six career games against the Bengals. He's topped one 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:27.440 hundred yards in four of them. Here's Zach Taylor. We've 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.480 got to be better there when you're facing the team. Listen, 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.360 number one rushing team in the NFL. That's kind of 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.400 been their bread and butter, you know. And Chubb's a 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.040 fantastic running back. They've got a really good offensive line 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.640 and a good tight end group that blocks for him. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.160 We knew we had our work cut out for us, 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:42.960 because that's what they've shown each each game that they've 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.640 played really over the last two years. So one of 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.080 the things you gotta do is is you gotta be 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:49.400 where you're supposed to be and you gotta be able 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:50.560 to put the back on the ground and we get 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.680 the opportunities. I did see a couple of times when 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.400 we had some opportunities, we missed those tackles. Another Borough 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.080 interception led to a field goal that made it thirty 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:02.000 four ten going to the fourth quarter. Joe Mixon scored 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:03.800 on a two yard run to make it thirty four 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:07.000 to sixteen, and Joe finished with one hundred ten combined 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.840 rushing and receiving yards, but that didn't mean much. An 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:14.320 eighteen yard touchdown pass from Baker Mayfield to David Najoku 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:19.640 made the final score forty one sixteen, almost identical to 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:23.080 the bengals forty one to seventeen win in Baltimore two 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:27.560 weeks ago. Here are Sam Hubbard and c j Uzama. 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:31.960 I think it just got out of hand, you know, turnovers, 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.280 got to take care of the ball, big plays, mistakes, 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.280 you know, just it's the NFL. It's a tough division. 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:40.880 You know. You see what happens when you let things 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:42.640 get out of hand. We're kind of on the other 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:44.520 side of it. Early in the season. Happened to us, 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.440 so we got to take it and learn from it. 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.160 We're pissed. Obviously, we just lost in a bad way 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.480 in front of our home crowd. But there's the stress level, 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.520 in the panic level, there's there's none, all right. We 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.240 know we have we know what we can still achieve, 0:08:58.280 --> 0:08:59.680 and we just have to go out there and do it. 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.120 Two weeks ago, the Bengals were the number one playoff 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.760 seed in the AFC. Now they're a game and a 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.480 half behind the first place Ravens in the AFC North 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.680 and could fall a half game behind the Steelers if 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.200 Pittsburgh beats the Bears at Hinz Field on Monday night. 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.400 It's obviously not what they were hoping for going into 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.440 their bye week, but they are five and four and 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.719 five of their last eight are at home. Here are 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.559 Joe Burrow and Zach Taylor. Still got everything in front 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.640 of us. There's no panicking. We've lost two in a row, 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:35.600 so what now. We've got eight games left and still 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.840 a chance to win the division and make the playoffs. 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.600 So that's our folks going forward. I think that people 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:42.760 were going to try to paint a picture of overreaction 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:44.760 when you lose two games in a row. We're not. 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:46.560 You know, we're going to correct those things. That we 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.720 need to correct and use this bye week to get 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:51.480 our bodies back and make sure we're healthy going in 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:55.240 the back half of the season. But this isn't unusual 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:56.800 for teams to lose two games in a row in 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:01.400 this league. You know, it feels awful, trust me to 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.840 sit here after two consecutive losses, But I think it's 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:07.080 important that we're consistent with our approach throughout. We know 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.200 we've done some good things over this first nine games 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.280 the season, and so we'll make those corrections that we 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.839 need to make so that we're focused and can come 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:16.920 out strong after the buy. The first game after the 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.880 buy is on the road in Las Vegas. The Raiders 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.920 are five and three after losing to the Giants on Sunday. 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.000 They have a home game on Sunday Night Football next 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:30.000 week against the Kansas City Chiefs. The Bengals Booth podcast 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.320 is presented by Ultimate Bengals, the free to play fantasy 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.839 football game. Ultimate Bengals will be awarding a weekly winner 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.439 during the course of the season, with tickets, autograph merchandise, 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:44.720 and money can buy experiences all up for grabs. Find 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.400 Ultimate Bengals in the app stores now. Now time for 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:52.840 postgame analysis with Dave Lapham. All Right, lap, I guess 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.280 my first question after forty one to sixteen loss would be, 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.440 what's happened to the Bengals defense so good through seven 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:03.240 games and really struggling over the last two. Yeah, that 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.160 that's a tough one to tough one to figure out 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.480 because I don't know, I don't if they cracked the code. 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.680 I wonder what the code was. You know, it's like man, 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.400 and it looked like, you know, teams did it a 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:19.280 little bit differently. It looked like the Jets just attacked, 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.840 you know, the perimeter in the in the short areas 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.880 of the football field by throwing the football. I mean 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.040 the Cleveland Browns did what they do, They ran it, 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.640 and uh, you know, Baker Mayfield just played off of 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.720 that and only threw it twenty one times. You completed 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.199 fourteen of them. For tune in eighteen yards when I 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.640 mean Chubb almost has ten yards of rush, fourteen carries, 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:42.600 one hundred and thirty seven yards, two touchdowns. Seventy yard 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.760 touchdown run will do that for you, There's no doubt 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.520 about it. I Mean, like we said, Dan, the seventy 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:52.800 yard touchdown run, people's jones sixty yard touchdown catch. They 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.080 had four other plays, five other plays of over twenty 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.840 one yards, and you know they only ran for the 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.839 for the entire football game. The only we're in forty 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.760 six plays had two hundred sixty one three hundred and 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:09.960 sixty one yards on forty six snaps. It it was 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.680 a dismantling There's there's no doubt about it. But I 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.480 don't know, I don't know what it is that the 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.640 teams have figured out here. But you mentioned a couple 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:21.600 times during the course of the game where eight straight 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:25.360 drives between the Jets and the and the Cleveland Browns 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.760 that they they score I mean eight straight before a 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.880 punt stopped that streak or was it ten drives before 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.839 a punt stopped the streak? Well, the overall stat is 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.720 in a ten drive span, not including the end of 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.839 the Jets game where they just ran out of the clock. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:44.720 In a ten drive span between the two games, the 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.280 Bengals defense forced one punt, gave up nine scores. Wow, 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:56.040 that's um. That's problematic to say the least, and it 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.120 changes the whole complexion of the buye. I mean, they've 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.719 got a going to take apart what they've done and 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.480 put it back together again. They have to have to 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.840 figure out they got some work ahead of them. Um, 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.400 going into the bye with two straight losses and one 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.600 of them a division loss by by quite a margin. 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:16.520 That that that's that's concerning to say the least. We 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.600 set it on the pregame show going into the game 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.719 with a buy ahead. You're either six and three with 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.160 a three and oz record in the division where you 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.760 can kick back, relax, go on vacation, whatever you want 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.200 to do during the bye, or you're five and four, 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:31.760 you've lost two straight games where you were favored to win, 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.120 and you might have a hard time sleeping for the 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:38.320 next week. Yeah, I mean there's there's a I think 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.199 I think a lot of sports psychologists are going to 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.720 make money during the bye week as as players and 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:46.480 coaches visit these uh these guys it Um, you know. 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.679 I think what you have to do, though, is maybe 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:53.840 go back and really break tape down during the successful run, 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.320 and break tape down during the run where they've had 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.880 some struggles, and really put a fine tooth comb to 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.040 what people are doing differently and what you might need 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:10.040 to do. Sometimes the adjustments aren't as as apparent and 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.080 as easy as as uh as you might think. I guess, 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.360 and they need to need to just look over, you know, 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.040 over all of it and evaluate it and be really 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.120 truthful and honest and and maybe make some decisions on 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.840 how they divide playing time amongst some players. They may 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.280 determine that you know what, this hasn't been just for 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.400 a series. This has been for two games in a 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.240 row now that I haven't gotten the production and I 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.160 need at this position or that position, or you can't 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.800 make wholesale personnel changes. Um, and you don't want to 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:42.960 do anything. Um you know, a knee jerk reaction type thing. 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:47.760 But man, you I think you just have to study 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.600 it from A to Z and uh and make as 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:56.920 many adjustments and changes and make as many tough decisions 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.920 as you possibly need to make. I love Joe Burrow. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.160 You love Joe Burrow. The fan base loves Joe Burrow. 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.920 There's no quarterback I would rather have going forward than 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.840 Joe Burrow. And he's not perfect. Nobody is. But that 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:13.240 first interception, you can't make that throw. It's third down 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.800 and goal from the three. I don't know what he 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:20.080 saw because Denzel Ward was right there. I don't know 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.840 how he didn't see him unless you know, you look 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.880 at the angle with a pass rush that you don't 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.280 know if he was blocked out. I mean, the only 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.400 thing I can figure is that he just didn't see 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.200 him the way it was apparent that he should have 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.680 been seen. Because yeah, that that one, it's not like 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.480 he even had to really break on it. He just 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.160 kind of just had to catch it and run. So 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.240 that that one was a was a backbreaker for sure. 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:48.880 And that's a fourteen point swing, you know, it's it's 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.640 but the fact is you come right back and you 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.280 score a touchdown, go right down the field again and 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.560 score a touchdown, and you know you run twenty snaps 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.200 and puts seven points on the board. Fourteen really seven 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.960 for them and seven for you. Before they even take 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.760 the field offensively. Boy, once they once the Cleveland brownse 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.080 took the field offensively, though, they couldn't wait to show 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.360 you what they had. You know, they had a good 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.800 game plan and they were anxious to let it unfold. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:22.280 Tough day for Jamar Chase. Costly fumble a couple of 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.720 deep balls, poluting one in the end zone that should 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.240 have been caught. Another deep ball that could have been 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:28.720 caught It would have been a great catch if he 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:32.280 had held on. But unfortunately, as brilliant as he's been 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.360 to this point of his rookie year, this was not 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.000 a great day for him. Yeah, he's been streaky, you know, 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.000 you look at he had a bad streak at training camp. 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.720 Then he put together a good streak of a few games. 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.600 But he dropped a touchdown pass against the Jets as well, 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:46.200 right in the end zone him right in the chest. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.440 He let it get in his shoulder pads and bounced 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.280 off his chest. He dropped, you know, a couple of 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.920 balls today and you know, other another throw that would 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.480 have been a great catch, there's no question. But in 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.440 this league, when you get two hands on the football, 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:00.520 you know, most receivers are going to say, actually catch 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:05.080 that football. So, yeah, he's he's in a streak that's 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.840 that's not very good. Again, maybe the bye week is 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.480 coming at a very opportune time for him. Maybe it's 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.800 coming at an opportune time for a few guys. That 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.760 The one thing though, Dan is they've been remarkably healthy, 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.680 you know, and uh and the bye week they should 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.400 even get more healthy. So when they come back after 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.919 the bye week, it's not like they're waiting for guys 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.359 to rehab and key components to come back to the 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:31.640 to the football team. And I guess you can look 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.720 at it two ways. You can look at it and say, oh, 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.160 they're healthy, and they still have had a tough two 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.120 game stretch. You know, if if, if, if injuries could 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.440 explain it, that'd be an easy in explanation. But that's 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:45.560 not the case. But they they have time to lick 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.439 their wounds. They're not physical, they're mental. And uh, you know, 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.639 I'll guarantee you the coaches are going to be burning 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.480 some midnight oil here in the early stages of the 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.080 bye week. I mean, they're gonna take some time with 0:17:56.119 --> 0:18:00.119 their families. They deserve it. Um Zach said you on 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.800 the postgame show that players are given him everything they 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.520 have and he has no issues, no questions, no problems 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:12.240 with that the effort that they've given. And I agree. 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.800 When I look at the tape, I don't see guys 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:19.200 not playing hard. I see guys not executing proper technique. 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.280 I see guys, you know, making mental errors. I see mistakes. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.600 I see guys not playing smart enough. But I don't 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.320 it's not a case of guys you know, just putting 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.919 it in cruise control and not playing hard. They are 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.840 playing hard. We know the Browns are a talented team. 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.159 They played today like the team they're supposed to be. 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:40.000 Unfortunately the Bengals did not get them on a bad day. 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.760 Let's talk about a cheam Identagy. I know he spoke 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:44.280 to him after the game. What did you make of 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.840 the fact that he started in place of Jackson Carman 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:49.160 at right guard? And how do you think he did? 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.480 I thought he acquitted himself pretty darn well. Now he's 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.080 his own toughest critic. So he said, there are you know, 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.320 there are a few plays, and there always are. You know, 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.200 in a seventy play sequence of a football game, you're 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.399 not gonna have seventy perfect plays. But I bet you 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:09.120 he had sixty five that are probably, you know, more 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.080 than passable. And I think what it boiled down to 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:15.800 was they were excited about him before he get hurt, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.880 and then when he came back, his feet are so 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.440 good and his balance is so good, and he has 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.720 he has really athletic system and strength. So you think, man, 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.520 I gotta I gotta use this guy somewhere. And he 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.560 hadn't played right guard he's in a long time, and 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:35.080 they threw him in there. I thought, maybe, you know, 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.359 the two weeks of practice that he came back, Frank 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.840 Pollock's like, I gotta play this guy. I mean, he 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:42.919 must have just made the decision. This guys shown me 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.000 too much physically. I got to see what he can 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:48.920 do in a game, because he leap frog everybody. You know, 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:52.159 he leap frog carm and he leap frog Hill. You know, 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:54.960 I'm gonna put him a right guard. And I thought 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.560 he might rotate maybe you know, not every series rotate, 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:03.000 but maybe get a blow here and there. He played 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.680 twenty quick plays and played seventy plays, uh, you know, 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.679 in a football game where he had not played a 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.840 physical battle like that in quite a while. So that 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:15.720 that's a pretty good tribute to him. And um, you know, 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.800 it shows the kind of confidence that his teammates and 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.840 his line coach and everybody has in him. And he 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:25.520 couldn't have been more effusive in his praise of you know, 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.399 the veteran guys around him, the Riley Reeese and you 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:32.119 know Trey Hawkins, you know, helping him, and and that 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.840 that that is I mean, it was the same way 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.680 for Jackson Carmen and Trey Hill, anybody in there. So 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:42.360 having having those bookend veteran guys is so helpful there. 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.199 The loss to Cleveland makes the loss to the Jets 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.159 hurt that much more up by eleven midway through the 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.720 fourth quarter, if they just hold on and win that game, Yeah, 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:54.760 a twenty five point loss at home to the Browns 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.440 would have stung, but at least big picture, he still 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:01.040 would have felt great. Now that Jets game, you really 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:04.200 kick yourself for letting that one get away. Yeah, it's like, 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:08.320 all right, up eleven, seven minutes to go up five, 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:11.760 you know, three minutes and forty seconds or whatever, and 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:17.120 you can't finish. UM. So now you combine not being 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:20.440 able to finish against the team that you should have beaten, UM, 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.159 and you follow it up with a division loss. The 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.520 magnitude of this one, it's a it's a double whammy. 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.840 It's a second kick in the butt. So you don't 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:32.280