1 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: What is going on? John middle Coop three and Out 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: podcast Thursday afternoon, a little bit before the NBA Finals, 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: try to record a little podcast last or I guess 4 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: earlier this week. On Tuesday's podcast, I said, you know 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: what hit me up on my d ms? My I'm 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: out of Middle Coff mail bag questions? Uh my, you 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: know d ms are wide open. You slide up into 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: that inbox, and you guys have not only slid, I 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: mean I feel like a Kardashian I have. I had 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: probably a hundred. I had to answer a bunch just manually. 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna bang I'm gonna do a huge 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: Middle Coff mail bag. It's gonna be the majority of 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: the show, just because I literally have ones that I 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: haven't answered. About thirty to bang out. I don't know 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: if I would get thirty, but I'll try to fly 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: through him here coming up. And also I'm gonna start 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: off talking about the Browns. But you can always hit 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: me up at John Middlecoff on Instagram. That's my Instagram handle, 19 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: also my Twitter handle. Also I got a YouTube page. 20 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 1: You can find me everywhere on the on the intro 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: web and the best way if you want to have 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: your question answered though, go to John Middlecoff on Instagram 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: just direct message me. You know, I'm basically I'm the 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: equivalent of a hot babe, you know, I just have 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: It's just my inboxes full of dudes. They're just all 26 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: asking me football questions, so, you know, not quite as flattering, 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: but still pretty cool. I'm not complaining, uh, and I 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: welcome it slide right into my d M s. But 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with this a couple of things, and 30 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: it both both revolve around the Browns, and I got 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: some of this. We're gonna get into Baker here in 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: a second. And people think I'm like a hater because 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: Colins a hater. One I think I told Colin back 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: when he was coming out. I think I thought he 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: was a better player than Colin was given him credit for. 36 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: He's an elite player. But there's this thing going around 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: out on social media that I think we need to 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: pump the brakes on a little bit when it comes 39 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: to these tears. But first and foremost, I want to 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: start with Odell Beckham and Freddie Kitchen. And I've gone 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: over this before, but I want to hammer this home 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: again just because things in life are voluntary does not 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: mean they're basically I mean they should be mandatory. They 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: may have the like Again, it's voluntarry to take your 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: wife out on our anniversary. It's voluntary to get your 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: kids something on his birthday. It's not mandatory you do that. 47 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: Is it smart that you do that? Yes? In any 48 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: big boy job, once you get on salary, it's not 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: mandatory you show up at certain times. Do most high 50 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: level employees work longer than the quote unquote a lotted hours. 51 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: Of course. Now I get in the sport of football 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: or pro sports in general. Now you can work out 53 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: on your own. So Odell Beckham is working out in 54 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: l A. He loves l A. We get it, Odell. 55 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: But when you're paid twenty million dollars a year and 56 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: this team is going all in on you, it would 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: probably behoove you to show up to practice because it's 58 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: pretty easy. You take a private jet and you just 59 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: go and you go for three days. It's kind of 60 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: like the country club for NFL. I was just att 61 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday. I can't stress you enough how easy 62 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: the practice are. They're so easy, and especially for new players, 63 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: they're so essential because you're learning the base of the offense. 64 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: If you're gonna learn a language, you don't just start 65 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: speaking in sentences. When I took Spanish as a kid, 66 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: you learn the basic words, the basic conjugate conjugations of 67 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: those words, and then as you build on them, you're 68 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: able to speak un offense is no different and him 69 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: not being at Freddie Kitchens minicamp and Freddie has tried 70 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: to be the nice guy. The first I guess a 71 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks today kind of snapped and I absolutely 72 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: loved it. Brown's Freddy Kitchens on what specifically Odell Beckham Jr. 73 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: Missed over the last three weeks. Quote the offense. That 74 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: is an incredible quote and so true, Like, Odell, we 75 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: get it, your diva, we get it. You're more important 76 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: than the team. But you're not showing up is just 77 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: so easy, it really is. And he screwed up. And 78 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: we're going to see if he shows up next week 79 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: at the mandatory mini camp. Who knows. I would assume 80 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: he does, but I wouldn't bet on it. I won't 81 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: be shocked if he doesn't show up. But at the 82 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: end of the day, Odell Beckham and Levian Bell like 83 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: they've kind of showed their true colors. It's really kind 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: of about more them than it is the team, and 85 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: that ultimately is kind of their downfall. I gotta tip 86 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: my hat to him. Antonio Brown, he missed one day 87 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: last week, but that's the only day that he's missed 88 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: this entire off season. And to me, the three biggest 89 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: divas in the league, Odell Levian and Antonio Brown, one 90 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: guy has been at the camp working and Antonio has 91 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: just been killing it. According to my sources in the building. 92 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: For those of you don't know that, Raiders president Mark 93 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: Dane just buyses me. He banned me from the facility, 94 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: so I'm not allowed to go to practice. So it's like, okay, 95 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: I'll just go to a the Niner practice. You don't 96 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: want free publicity. It's it's on you. But you know, 97 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: I still know some people that know some people that 98 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: are in the loop, and uh, he's been crushing it 99 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: and you can see on social media. But from my 100 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: my buddies on the staff and the scouting staff, he's 101 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: he's a stud and Sol's O'Dell and Soul's Levian. But 102 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: just go to practice. It really is pretty easy. It's 103 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: basically what these voluntary for a couple of mini camps 104 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: or OTAs or whatever the hell they're called, our anniversary dinners. Sometimes, 105 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, if it's been a long day at work, 106 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: do you really want to go? Would you rather just 107 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: go home? Yeah, but it's just one of those things 108 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: that you should probably do. Good teammates, good players do it. 109 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: And don't give me that Tom Brady has missed all 110 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: of o t a s. He's Tom freaking Brady's won 111 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: six championships and he's still bringing to Keel Harry over 112 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: to his house. I think it's been an absolute embarrassment, 113 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: more for Levian Bell because of the money they paid him, 114 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: but a bad look for Odell. And I appreciate Freddy Kitchens, 115 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: like I'm not just gonna tell the company line on this. 116 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: I think it's a joke, like how this guy is 117 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: not here, We're about to pay him twenty million dollars 118 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: a year. He's a special talent. He hasn't produced at 119 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: that level. He's actually and again I'm an Odell Beckham guy, 120 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: but his talent right now four exceeds his production. It 121 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: ain't even close. I'll say one thing about Antonio Brown. 122 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: His production probably exceeds his talent now he's really talented, 123 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: but his production is unprecedented, and that's why he's But 124 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: they're they're paid the same amount of money. Pull up 125 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: the NFL dot com pages. One of them looks a 126 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: lot better than the other. That's Antonio Brown. He produces. 127 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: So if I'm gonna deal with the diva I was talking, 128 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: I was talking with a buddy yesterday in the NFL. 129 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: Say what you wanted about Antonio Brown. Maybe he's like 130 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: a little like t O, But t O and his 131 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: peak kicked asks and took names like O'Dell is a 132 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: little more fluff right now. And again, I was one 133 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: of the biggest proponents of the forty Niners trading for O'Dell. 134 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: But if the Forts would have pulled off the trade 135 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: and he wouldn't have been at minicamp, I would be 136 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: eviscerating him. And if I was a Browns fan, I'd 137 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: be pretty piste. Here's the other thing, Baker Mayfield. I 138 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: think Baker Mayfield is stud I think he's gonna be 139 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: the modern day I mean, I guess Drew Brees, the 140 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: modern day Drew Brees. But this generation's version of Drew 141 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: Brees with probably a little bit better of an arm. 142 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: He has a better arm than I think he's gonna 143 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: be a flat out studden this league. He's an I 144 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a stud. I think he already 145 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: is pretty damn good. But there's this tear going around 146 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: right now on social media, and I would imagine many 147 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: of you have seen it, you know you. Basically it's 148 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: like really good players, solid players, average players, uh, and 149 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: it kind of ranks them and you can rank them 150 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: on Twitter, and a lot of people have been doing it. 151 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: And I've seen a lot of people that I know 152 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: and respect, like in the media that have Baker Mayfield 153 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: in the tier with like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers 154 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: and Drew Brees and Patrick Mahomes. Let's not getting twisted. 155 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield started thirteen games in the NFL. He threw 156 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 1: twenty seven touchdowns and fourteen picks. So let's just pump 157 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: the brakes a little bit. I am a Aker Mayfield guy. 158 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a really good player, but 159 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: in some big games against good teams, he did not 160 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: play that well at Houston. This is like late in 161 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: the year, one touchdown, three picks. He had a game 162 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: at Baltimore three picks at Pittsburgh two touchdowns, one pick, 163 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: but he threw yards again against Kansas City, who didn't 164 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: have a very good defense. Now they lost. I mean, 165 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: obviously the Chiefs are better. Two touchdowns at Cincinnati, he 166 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: played pretty well through four touchdowns. Carolina one touchdown again. 167 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna go through the box score. That's irrelevant. 168 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: We all we all have. You don't need to be 169 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh to to tell this guy is a really 170 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: good player, but to put him right now, and a 171 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: lot of people in the media are just assuming he's 172 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and Russell Wilson Andrew lux equal. That's just 173 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: not the case. To me, we have less information on 174 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: him than like to me, like Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald, 175 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I would put all those guys on the 176 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: same him tear. It's just I don't know. Now I'm 177 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: betting more on Baker Mayfield than the other two guys, 178 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: But I'm not putting Baker Mayfield like right now, right 179 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: next to Patrick Mahomes, who just won the m v 180 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: P and has played in Baker Mayfield has yet to 181 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: play in a big game, has yet to play in 182 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: a game that matters. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. 183 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Like when you start playing in games that matter and 184 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: there's legitimate pressure on you, then I can better judge you. 185 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: It's why I struggle with young players that are playing 186 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: in meaningless games. Now again, I'm not trying to be 187 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: anti Baker Mayfield and someone's like someone tweeted at me, 188 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: you're just doing this because your boss hates him. I know. 189 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't care what Colin thinks. It's like Colin doesn't 190 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: care what I think. I mean, we have our own 191 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: opinions on the guy. His I don't think he's immature 192 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: as Colinda like. That doesn't bother me as much. I 193 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: also think you gotta be careful. Younger people just deal 194 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: with social media differently than older It's just it doesn't 195 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: that doesn't bother me. I'm strictly talking about in a 196 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: vacuum as a player. I I think we need to 197 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: settle down the expectations on this guy because I think 198 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: there's a decent chance they just don't make the playoffs 199 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: this year. That doesn't mean Baker Mayfields a failure. Like 200 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: if he's not a pro bowler this year, okay, it's okay, 201 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: let's let's just walk before we run. And again he's 202 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: played one season basically eighty percent of the season and 203 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: didn't play in any meaningful games, like any games that 204 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: had playoff implications, because by the time that he took over, 205 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: the team was already screwed and it wasn't totally his fault. 206 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: Hugh j. Acton one of the worst coaches, I think 207 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: the worst coach statistically wins loss wise in modern day history. 208 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: So I'm not putting it on Baker and his receiver stunk. 209 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: I think Baker right now, if I was betting on 210 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: want to take over Donald and Allen. But we see 211 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: it all the time with young players. You're in the NFL. 212 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: Every building has this long, has this sign somewhere in it. 213 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: You're either getting better or getting worse. No one stays 214 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: the same. Guys take huge strides now Baker, and I 215 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: think one of the reasons Freddy Kitchen says, what does 216 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham missed the offense like him and Baker That 217 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: there's a big difference between working on your timing in 218 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: the back yard at U C, l A or USC 219 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: in the off season than doing it at practice like 220 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: and actually building the timing within the offense. With the 221 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: coaches around coaching him up with the film, going back 222 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: to the practice field, going back to the walkthrough, so 223 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: we'll see it might be more of a work in 224 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: progress than you think. With Odell Beckham, maybe it's not. 225 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: Maybe they just hit the ground running and they're like 226 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison or Tyree killing My Homes. 227 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, but even Tyree Killing My Homes got 228 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: to work together before. I just think we need to 229 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: be a little bit careful about annoying this guy as 230 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. And I'm saying this in like 231 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: trying to get in his back because I think it's 232 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: almost unfair. And we do this all the time with quarterbacks. 233 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: And then they don't because most Andrew Lucks don't live 234 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: up to the hype, right, most guys come back to earth, 235 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: something happens, like hell, Jimmy Garoppolo gets a huge deal, 236 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: gets hurt. Derek Carr, who almost won the m v P, 237 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: has never been the same in the last couple of years, 238 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: and then we just destroy him. Let's just let these 239 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: guys play it out. Let's give these guys next year. 240 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: I don't know they're going into their second year Bakers. 241 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: This is his second year in the league, and just 242 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: see if he can get it done, like even Patrick 243 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: Mahomes can't. Let's not put him in the Hall of Fame. 244 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: He's played one season. Now, granted that was one season 245 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: was incredibly won the Hall of Fame. But any coach 246 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: will tell you that being a really good player in 247 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: the NFL is about sustaining it. Now, I think all 248 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: these guys have the work ethic, the desire to drive 249 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: the physical attributes. You still gotta do it. That's why 250 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: I played in the NFL is so difficult. Like anyone 251 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: can have a great NBA season, try to be Steph 252 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: Curry though, and just maintained the greatness and kicking the 253 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: crap out of everyone for years, Like that's not easy. 254 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: I mean, look at Lebron even eventually he like ran 255 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: out of steam. When ten straight years of kicking the 256 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: ship out of everyone, Boom gets injured, it's over, you know. 257 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: So I just think, let's just see if Baker Mayfield 258 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: before we put him with Russell Wilson, with Philip Rivers 259 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: and Andrew Luck, if you can make the playoffs, you know, 260 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: if he can have a good season, if he can 261 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: play in games when he's favor to win and actually win. 262 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: Because what's weird is it almost feels like, how are 263 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: the Browns already the Hunted? That's what it kind of 264 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: feels like, the way everyone says, Oh, they're just gonna 265 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: win the division, They're gonna win the division? Are we 266 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: sure there's just already the Hunted? A team that in 267 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: my lifetime, I'm thirty four years old, I don't ever 268 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: remember them being good. I vividly don't ever remember them 269 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: being good. When I think the Browns, I think laughing stock. 270 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: And so if he is gonna overcome it, and I 271 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: can use this example because they're right down the street 272 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: from me. It's been hard for Derek Carr, and it 273 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: was hard for Cleil Mac to overcome shitty organizations. It 274 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: is really hard to overcome that. Like even the highest character, 275 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: highest worker, high level guys, it beats you down. So 276 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: can Baker overcome the Browns? That would be an incredible accomplishment. 277 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to see. But in fairness and to do this, 278 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: just to give this guy a fighting chance, can we 279 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: just pump the brakes a little bit on the Baker 280 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: Mayfield hype? Okay, let's get into the middlecoff mail bag. 281 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: We'll do that right now, because I my my mail 282 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: bag is just stupid overloaded right now with so many 283 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: people firing in there. I'm gonna start, We're gonna do 284 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: I think what's FIFO first in, first out is the 285 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: accounting purposes, So I'm gonna start at the top. It 286 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: could be a Homer bias, but it seems Trubisky gets 287 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: much more scrutiny than all the other young quarterbacks in 288 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: the league. Have you noticed this at all or is 289 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: it just Chicago fans crying wolf? Do you think he 290 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: could develop into a true Francise quarterback? His floor ceiling? 291 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, huge fan, appreciate that. Uh you know, I 292 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: think it's semi fare there. There's no arguing that he 293 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: plays on a phenomenal roster. I mean the Bears top 294 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: to bottom of a top five roster in the league. 295 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: They have a big time young offensive coach. I think 296 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: it's just that too many times last year I think 297 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: why he catches a lot of heat, He misses lay 298 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: up throws, he misses easy ones, and he can make 299 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: some spectacular throw He's a fantastic athlete, but I think 300 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: he just consistently miss his easy throws. Now. I was 301 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: driving down to forty nine a practice yesterday and I 302 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: listened to Naggy uh talking to the media on periscope. 303 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: As I was driving, I kept my eyes on the road, 304 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: and one thing he said is he just thinks that 305 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: he's coming into his own in this offense. Last year 306 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: he learned the offense. This year he masters the offense. 307 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: So there's not really many excuses. Uh No. A bunch 308 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: of people on their staff, they they're very confident in 309 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: running back group is gonna be really good. The kid 310 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: they drafted a stud to go along with Tyreke or 311 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: Tarik and Mike David is a good player. Trey Burton 312 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: just had hernia surgery, but the receivers are good. I 313 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: know Miller is not practicing this. I guess offseason he'll 314 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: be back for training camps. Their teams are gonna be good, 315 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: So no excuses. I think next year or the you know, 316 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: in three months when the season starts, is a big 317 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: year for Trabisky to prove like he's a dude. Now. 318 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: He can still get buy on athleticism, and you can 319 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: always resort to that when the arm's not working. Now, 320 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: his arm works like he has a good arm. He's 321 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: just got to become more accurate. He's got to become 322 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: more consistent with just basic throws, you know, on like 323 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: a when you gotta hit third and seven, a slant route, 324 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: you can't miss the guy by ten yards. You know. 325 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: His some of those red zone passes. His touch in 326 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: the red zone is just terrible. You know, it's just 327 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: not very good. So you know, but he's young, and 328 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: he doesn't have much experience. What last year was the 329 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: first year starting under the new coach, he'd only started 330 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: half the years of rookie and you've only been a 331 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: one year starter in college. So I'm I'm not writing 332 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: the kid off by any means, but I think so 333 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: far the criticism or apprehension, apprehension to kind of put 334 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: him in the tier with some of these other young 335 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: players is fair. Why can't the Pac twelves seem to 336 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: get traction lately? I would think these teams would have 337 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: an advantage in recruiting with some of the more desirable 338 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: school locations Cali, Arizona, Seattle. What's wrong with the Pac 339 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: twelve these days? That's a great question, I think, on 340 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: this most basic level in two thousand nineteen. The SEC's 341 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: I guess motto or their mission statement, like the main 342 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: statement when you see the SEC its statement is it 343 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: just means more. And that's true. Football just means more 344 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: in the South. It obviously means more in the Big Tan, 345 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: and it means more in the Big Twelve and the 346 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: Clemson it means more. So right now, it just means more. One. 347 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: I think that's a big It's just on the most 348 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: basic level, it just means more in other parts of 349 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: the country too. Uh, they're not doing a good enough 350 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: job of developing the talent that they are getting. And 351 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: some of these teams. USC's got good players for years, 352 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: they have not developed them. Oregon hasn't been well coached. 353 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: The last several years. You could argue Washington somewhat overachieved 354 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: and just properly achieved. They've been a perfect balance of 355 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: well coached, bunch of NFL players sent them in the 356 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: league and kicking ass and winning games. Mike Leach has 357 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: done a good job too. But I think one big 358 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: issue for the Pac twelve. When your flagship program eroads sucks, 359 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: it screws your whole conference. And sc sucking and I 360 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: mean not just sucking. But just being irrelevant has killed 361 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: the has killed the conference, it really has. They need 362 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: USC to be good, like Utah has been really good. 363 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington's kicked ass, Stanford has been solid, but they need 364 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: USC to be a factor, and right now they're not 365 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: a factor. That still got a good coaches. Peterson big 366 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: time coach, Leach, big time coach, David Shaw, big time coach. 367 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 1: But s c's got Clay Helton. I'm sorry, he's not 368 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: a USC level coach. It's just that simple. And I 369 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: think Chip Kelly has lost his fastball and isn't very 370 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: good anymore. So you know, I was talking I was 371 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: d m and the other day with Bruce Feldman. I 372 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: listened to him on Ryan Racila's podcast, and he thinks 373 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly is the top fifteen coach. I just I 374 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: can't agree with that. There's no question about it. You know, 375 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: eight seven seven, eight years ago, whenever he was at Oregon, 376 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: he was a top three or four coach in the country. 377 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: I I can't even put him in the top twenty 378 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: right now, No, no chance, not not not right now, 379 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: not until he proves that he's got another pitch. He's 380 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: throwing one pitch everyone's figured it out, like can you 381 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: do something different? And he doesn't like recruiting. I don't know. 382 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: I think Herm Edwards is going to do a better 383 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: job at Arizona State. I think Kevin someone at this 384 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: point in time is gonna give him trouble. Now. I 385 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: see stinks obviously. Kyle winnie Ham's a big time coach. 386 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean you could argue Kyle winnie Ham, David Shaw 387 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: and Chris Peterson and Mike Leach. I mean that's the 388 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: cream of the crop. I don't put Chip Kelly on 389 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: that level right now. Listen to your pod yesterday and 390 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: you said the Ravens move off Flacco because he was 391 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: no longer a max guy. Fair to say that New 392 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: York Giants have held on the ELI far too long. 393 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: I'd like to think there are other issues, mostly roster 394 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: depth are the reason the Giants have been bad, not 395 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: elis what's your take? When I talked to friends in 396 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: the league that what I mean our pro scouts, they 397 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: actually will defend Eli somewhat and just be like, he's 398 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: not as bad as everyone makes him out to be. 399 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: His main problem is he is probably the worst athlete 400 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: currently as an NFL starting cornerback and his offensive line 401 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: has been terrible. So when Ship hits the fan, he 402 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: can't move. He's a statue, and you know he's so 403 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: hit or miss accurately. Accuracy wise, he could have those 404 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: games where it's just like, I don't even think Eli 405 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: knows where it's going, and then he can't move. He's 406 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: always under pressure. You know. I just think it's just 407 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: these old it's just a perfect combination, like it's time. 408 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: But they've held on and they felt so loyal because 409 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: of the two championships. And I understand that because those 410 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: two championships, they didn't just come as the favorite right there, 411 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: underdogs both times, wild card both times. I mean that game, 412 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy. I was listening to the Belichick 413 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: audio book and the oh seven game that upset. I 414 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: think they were nine and seven when they beat him, 415 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: and then the second time they beat him. It is 416 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: so remarkable that they went into San Francisco and beat 417 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: that Jim Harbaugh Alex Smith team. That's defense was so 418 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: unreal in the right now. I know they got help 419 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: from Kyle Williams, but that was an incredible wind. I mean, 420 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: they had just some absolutely Green Bay, just some incredible 421 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: wins on those two Super Bowl runs. But I I 422 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: think he lies just I don't don't think he's very good. 423 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: Never miss a show. Here's some potential middlecoff mail back questions. 424 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: Ps make more middle cough podcast. They're coming. Top five 425 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: most talented players, regardless of position, God given ability. Well, 426 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: I think if you just take the quarterbacks out, you 427 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: go Khalil Macaron, Donald, Antonio Brown, Odell Beckham. He's you know, 428 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: he's battles some injuries. But I think Luke Kikley is 429 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: pretty special. Uh. I throw Zeke and Todd Gurley right 430 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: up there. So I think there's a group top three 431 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: most well rounded NFL teams. I think the Eagles, Cowboys 432 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: and you know this team top to bottom is pretty 433 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: damn good. The Chargers. Which player on the Dallas Cowboys 434 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: the odd man out? You know, are they really gonna 435 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: pay Zeke running back? I'd probably be it. That's what 436 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: you gave me a lot of questions. Appreciate that. I'll 437 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: say this. You guys came in swinging when I needed 438 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: some questions. Keep them coming. Hey, John, I know you're 439 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: not a big a CEC guy, but I'm sure you're 440 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: aware of brockomann in Hall, former head coach at B 441 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: y U Yep, met him a couple of times when 442 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: I was scouting the West Coast. Great guy. He seems 443 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: to have the team on the brink of the top 444 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: twenty five finish solid year last year, smacked then SEC 445 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: school in their new bowl game, and we have a 446 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: new A D behind him with new funds. What are 447 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: your thoughts? Uv A finished his top twenty five possibility 448 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: competes for the a SEC Championship. Was it today or yesterday? 449 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: I saw on Twitter that they gave him an extension. 450 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: When you look at the A C C GOO, Miami's 451 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: in constant turnover. It feels like they have a new 452 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: coach every three or four years. Obviously, Mark Rick retires 453 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: and abruptly in many d s takes over so that 454 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: they're not really a factor. I think Willie Taggert's one 455 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: of the most overrated coaches in the country. Clemson is 456 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: the cream of the crop. But who else you're dealing with? 457 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean, why couldn't you v a B second in 458 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: the conference next year? Beat Miami, be Florida State. I'm 459 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: not saying they will be to I'm just saying be 460 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: better than them when all the dust settled. Duke just 461 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: lost their starting quarterback Boston College. May I think it's 462 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: a very, very winnable division for the second place. Obviously, 463 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: Clemson is like the Alabama of the a c C. 464 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: And they've earned it. They're the They're the cream of 465 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: the crop. There there the ship right now. But yeah, 466 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't I don't pretend to know much about UVa's roster, 467 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: but I know this. Bronco men and his Hall's teams 468 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: are tough. He recruits NFL guys. He might not recruit 469 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: NFL guys because he's not getting five star guys, but 470 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: he develops NFL players, and you could argue that's more important. 471 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: David Chow has been doing it forever. They've stopped Dave 472 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: shots not getting five star recruits in a bunch of 473 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: four stars. He's developing players in the NFL people, and 474 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: that's what Broncos doing. There's a toughness to his program. 475 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm a believer in Bronco Mennon Hall that that was 476 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: a good higher a little off the beaten path, but 477 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna work out long term. What would 478 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: you put on the over under on yards and touchdowns 479 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson this upcoming season. You know, yards is 480 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: just what our yards and more. I mean, honestly, like 481 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: five thousand yards. I mean how many like bubble screens 482 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: and stuff. I don't know if yards matter as much 483 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: to me. It's more of the touchdown to interception ratio. 484 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: They added, you know, the kid from Old Miss. I 485 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: can't even think. I wanted to say a J. Brown, 486 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: but DK. They had a DK Metcalf Tyler Lockett's back 487 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: what's his name? Had to retire one of my favorite 488 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: players in the league, bald Doug Baldwin, which kind of sucks, 489 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: but he didn't play. You know, he's been I wouldn't 490 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: say a shell of himself, but he's been injured the 491 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: last couple of years. I'd say thirty four touchdowns, ten picks, 492 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: thirty six touchdowns somewhere in there. Thirty four to thirty 493 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: six touchdowns right right in that level. Because they want 494 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: to run the ball. They draft your shot Penny still 495 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: got Carson, their physical run team. They play with defense 496 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: and just let Russell make some plays. So I'd say 497 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: let's just meet in the middle. Thirty five touchdowns if 498 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: you were the Browns, GM what position would you solidify 499 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: to improve the team to make them a true contender. Well, 500 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: their offensive line solid. They obviously have a franchise quarterback. 501 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: Receivers are now good. They have a good tight end. 502 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: They have you know, Star Young running back and Chubb. Defensively, 503 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: they got a bunch of defensive linemen. Kirksey is a 504 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: good player a linebacker. You can probably use another linebacker, corner. 505 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: I mean they drafted Denzel Award really high last year. 506 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: Could always use another safety. I mean things safe to 507 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: say that. I mean they topped to bottom. They got 508 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: a playoff roster. Time to time to get the job done. 509 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchens, That's why I think Freddy Kitchen is piste off. 510 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham's out there. It's like bro we have in 511 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 1: the NFL. But unless you're the Patriots, windows closed so fast. 512 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: I'll never forget watching the San Francisco forty Niners with 513 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: Jim Harball, like this team is gonna win Super Bowls 514 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: or compete for Super Bowls for ten years. It was 515 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: over like three years. I mean they made the playoffs 516 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: three straight years. Haven't sniffed going back. Since you feel 517 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: the Bears can make a deep playoff run this season. Honestly, 518 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: people are gonna sound say I'm a little crazy. I 519 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: I would say they're the favorites right now to win 520 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: the NFC. I think their defense is just a elite. 521 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they had the best defense top 522 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: to bottom in the NFL. Khalil Mack Hicks, ro Qwan Eddie, 523 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: Jackson Fuller, Travathan Floyd Eddie. I mean they got dudes everywhere. 524 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: I love everything their defense stands for. Talking to a 525 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: buddy on the staff the other day, I mean, Pagano's 526 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: as good as you're gonna get with Fangio Levin, Like 527 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: I said, Naggy taking Drabinsky to that next level. They 528 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: add another running back to go with Cohen. You know, 529 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: the receivers are much better than they have been the 530 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: last couple of years. I picked the Bears. I picked 531 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: the Bears to win that division. And I mean I'm 532 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: a little biased here. I'm rooting for them to win 533 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: the win the NFC now. Actually, I mean in a 534 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: perfect world for my business, I wouldn't mind the Niners. 535 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind Niners Bears NFC Championship game. John big 536 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: Fan Big Rams fan from Manchester, England, what's up? Every 537 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: year we get four NFL games in the UK, When 538 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: do you think we will get a UK franchise? Will 539 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: it work? The one reason I always thought it would 540 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: be difficult is just the travel purposes. Because even if 541 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: you're in like you need to bring in players constantly, 542 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: when guys get hurt for practice squad guys, you're constantly 543 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: cutting and bringing in players. Well, isn't the UK like 544 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: five hours away from the East coast. Well what if 545 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: you need to sign a guy from California That's a 546 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: ten hour trip. I just think logistically it could be 547 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: a little difficult. Uh, I'd be a little surprised. Maybe 548 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm naive. I don't pretend to know that much about 549 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: this subject. Like I don't know people in the league 550 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: office from the business standpoint. I mean, I know presidents 551 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: of teams, but I don't remember ask them about this 552 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: type stuff. Because I'll be honest, I don't really care. 553 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: Just I've also I've never thought it was that realistic. Again, 554 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: I might be naive. I'd be a little shocked if 555 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: it happens. I just think logistically it'd be a little difficult. 556 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: Now Again, maybe maybe I have I haven't been to 557 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: Europe in so long, So maybe my timeline is a 558 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: little off. Maybe it's not even five hours, but I 559 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: thought it was five hours New York to like the UK, 560 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: So that would mean what's California the UK? Ten twelve hours? Uh. 561 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what you think about the impact Antonio 562 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: Brown realistically gonna have on the raiders success success this year. 563 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: In my opinion, wide receivers can't come in and change 564 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: the idemic of a team like a top tier quarterback 565 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: or running back camp. It just seems like Gruden signed 566 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: a big name and I don't have them winning five 567 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: or six games this year. And I think a b 568 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: will bring a little change to the table. Uh. Well, 569 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: I think he's immediately the best player in the team 570 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: by a mile. So anytime you add an elite talent, 571 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: that's a positive. But the one thing with wide receivers, like, 572 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: if Derek's not playing well, you have to get him 573 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: the football. Now. If Derek's playing really well, like if 574 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: Derek has an MVP season, you could convince be the 575 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: Raiders win seven, eight, nine games. But if Derek has 576 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: plays like he has the last couple of years, yeah, 577 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna win four or five, especially with that schedule. Now, 578 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: check out Antonio's NFL dot com page. I mean, he's 579 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: been rattling off I think he's average. I did the 580 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: math months ago the last six years, like a hundred eleven, catches, 581 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred yards and ten touchdowns. So is Antonio Brown 582 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: gonna maintain those averages? Like, do we assume that Antonio 583 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: Brown two thousand, nineteen for the Oakland Raiders is gonna 584 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: have a hundred eleven and catches hundred yards and nine touchdowns. 585 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: Let's say I would probably take the under. And I 586 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: know this. When Antonio Brown doesn't get the pill, he complains. 587 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: But here's what we do know. He got the pill 588 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: like every play in Pittsburgh, and he's still complained, Like 589 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: they forced they built the offense around him. Now, obviously 590 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: I think Gruen's gonna build the offense around him here too. 591 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: But Derek's just much more of an inconsistent player than 592 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: big Man. It's just that's not an opinion, that's a fact. 593 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: And I've known Derek's high school. I'm rooting for Derek, 594 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: but he's gotta he's gotta play better. How do you 595 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: think the Pats will utilize their new receivers like Damarius Thomas, 596 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: Nickiel Harriet. After having a five receiver lineup last year, Well, 597 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: they've never really had a guy like Nickil Harry. I mean, 598 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: I think best case, Nickeil Harry becomes like a better 599 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: version of an quam Olden, like that physical type receiver 600 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: back shoulder catches. I mean, they've basically just dealt with 601 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: a bunch of little white guys that look like me 602 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: in Edelman Welker, who actually saw Welker yesterday attracts I 603 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: had to do a double take him. Mike Welker's a coach. 604 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: I forget, he's the wide receiver coach for forty and 605 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean he's I'm taller than him and I'm not 606 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: that tall, so I you know, I think they're gonna 607 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: have to get on the same page. I think Nickiel 608 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: Harry's just stud. Anyone that's listening to show knows that 609 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: I thought he was my favorite wide receiver in the draft. 610 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: But he's gonna have to play the receiver role of gronk, 611 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, work the middle of the field, red zone 612 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: target and I think they'll just the Patriots are as 613 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: good as anyone of finding what a guy does well 614 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: and then building packages around Matt So I would imagine 615 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: that you know, Nikil Harry will have a role for him. 616 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: Do you think the rookie standout from last year, Chris 617 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: Warren gets number two work behind Jacobs? This is a 618 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: raider question. I don't know if he was a rookie 619 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: standout because he didn't play at all. No, So I'd 620 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: say no. I would say that Jalen Rochard and Josh 621 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: Jacobs are the two running backs, and then they whether 622 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: it's Doug Martin or they claim a guy. If the 623 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: Browns at Gerald McCoy, does that make them the best 624 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: team in the NFL? Possibly an all time great unit. 625 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go all time great unit yet, but yeah, 626 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: they added Gerald McCoy. You got Gerald McCoy, Vernon Miles, 627 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: Garrett Baker. We I mean, we've talked about this team 628 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: so much. They would immediately be one of the best 629 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. I mean, on paper, you could 630 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: argue they already are for sure. That's why the pressure 631 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: on Freddie Kitchens is immense. Hey, John Avid listener, we 632 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: need to become a full time listener. How difficult is 633 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: it for an owner to be bought out? Been at 634 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: jet Van my whole life. So they function isn't anything new, 635 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: but at some point it doesn't seem fair that the 636 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: fans are at the mercy of these owners and their 637 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: constant lack of detail. Basically, how does one hope for 638 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: better days? Well, I don't think you can be forced 639 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: out unless something happens like Donald Stirlinks said a racist remark. 640 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if an owner doesn't break any laws, I 641 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: don't think there's anything you can do. I mean it sucks. 642 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: It's part of it's the shittiest part about being a fan, 643 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: uh is you're just at the ownership's control, and when 644 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: the owners are as nutty as the Johnson's, you're just 645 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: kind of along for the ride. I mean it stinks, 646 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, nothing you can do. So just keep your 647 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: fingers crossed that Sam Donald is a stud. If Sam 648 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: Donald becomes a stud, he can over be overcome a 649 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: nut job. Look look at Jim Ercy. I mean, Jim 650 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: Ercay has been caught with drugs. Cash always looks like 651 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: he's just lit on something. And they've had Peyton Manning 652 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: and Andrew Luck and they've overcome. So if Sam Donald 653 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: can overcome Jim Ercy, or excuse me, if those guys 654 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: can overcome Jim Rcy, Sam Donald has gotta be that 655 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: great he can overcome the Johnson's. If you can pick 656 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: any three past or president NFL head coaches to fill 657 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: out your own for some golfing, who would they be? 658 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: Probably need a comb off to talent, great stories and 659 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: and cashing beers. That's a great question. Well, you need 660 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: just a big, big personality, So you take Parcels. I 661 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: think if you got him drinking, I think Belichick would 662 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: be pretty good. And Belichick and Parcels talent stories that 663 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: would be pretty sweet. You know, did could be in 664 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: the running. I think did Cut a little younger would 665 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: be pretty damn fun. Uh, Walsh would be right up there. 666 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean it would probably be Walsh. I'd go five some, 667 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: I'd go Lombardi, Walsh, Parcels, the hoodie that that would 668 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: be my group because I think Walsh. Anyone that knew 669 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: Walsh was like, he was sneaky, a little more fun 670 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: than he got credit for. I know he used to 671 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: run around. I mean maybe he was divorced, but he 672 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: had like a playboy ex playmate that was like working 673 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: in TV up in the Bay. It was a girlfriend, 674 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: So I think Walsh. I mean, if I just had 675 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: to do it to something, it'd probably be Bill Walsh. 676 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't think part cells plays, but Parcels would just 677 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: be a fun personality to have around. And did I 678 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: mean if you're drinking beers, I'd want to go to 679 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: be there, Buddy Ryan. The Ryans would be a sleeper. 680 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: Like if I couldn't get any of those guys, if 681 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: you told me, i'd get a younger buddy obviously r 682 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: I P and just the Ryan brothers. I wouldn't be 683 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: opposed to that. Why didn't know what you think of 684 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: the Panthers chances this year? If Cam Newton could win 685 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: a Panther's a super Bowl in the near future, No, 686 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: and no, I think the Panthers are gonna struggle this year. 687 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm out of Cam Newton. I'm just I'm shorten that stock. 688 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: I like Ron Rivera a lot, northern California guy. I 689 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: think he actually from down the street from where I 690 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: live right now, super Now, I met him twice, been 691 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: as cool as possible. So I'm a fan of Ron Rivera. 692 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: I just I don't like Cam Newton. I don't really 693 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: like their roster. I think they're gonna suck. Crazy question, 694 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: but it has been bothering me for a while. Do 695 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: you think we will ever find out why Belichick bench 696 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler in the Super Bowl two years ago? Could 697 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: it really have been that he's just bad playing? In 698 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: him being sick? I thought it was weird. The teammates, 699 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: especially Brady, said they didn't even know till the game. 700 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: Someone asked me the other day, I think on Twitter, 701 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: they said, in your lifetime, what's the craziest NFL moment? 702 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: And the more I thought about it, I think the 703 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: defining moment of my lifetime in football. If I just 704 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: had to pick one moment, it would be the Malcolm 705 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: Butler Seattle I n t. I think that would be 706 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: the moment. Now this isn't as crazy, but him getting 707 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: bench in the game. Now, again he hadn't played as well, 708 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: but it's still pretty nuts when you think about it. 709 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: This dude had just won the Super Bowl? Was it 710 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: two years ago? And he got benched and it's a 711 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: free agent. I don't know, It's just it's a blemish. 712 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: Now Belichick's resume is pretty unreal, but it can't be 713 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: disputed that it's a little bit of a blemish on 714 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 1: the resume. Just finished up your Memorial Day Pod mentioned 715 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: needs some questions. Where would you rank Andrew Luck among 716 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks? Well, I think Brady right now. His grandfather 717 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: didn't know one. Roger's Freese, and then Luck and then 718 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: probably Russell Wilson. You know, I know Mahomes had a year, 719 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: but let's see my Homes doing a couple of years. 720 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: I think Mahomes will be right up there when it's 721 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: all said and done. But I'd go Brady, I'd go 722 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: Breeze Rodgers in some order. I know Breeze struggled a 723 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: little bit down the stretch, but he's earned it too. Uh. 724 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: And then I'd go Luck Wilson because I would take 725 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: a Luck over Russ. Do you reckon Notre Dame will 726 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: return to the playoffs this season? Well, I'm trying to 727 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: think how many off the top of my head. I 728 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: don't think they had too many guys drafted off that team. 729 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: So they had a pretty young squad and they didn't 730 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 1: make the playoffs right after losing McGlinchey and Quentin Nelson. 731 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: You know, to top ten picks an offensive line, I 732 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: the one problem for Notre Dames. They gotta run the table. 733 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: They have no margin for error. I think your locks 734 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 1: right now. If I'm sitting here, I go Alabama, Clemson, Georgia. 735 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: I'd be hard pressed to keep out too. So you 736 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: got one spot for basically Notre Dame Oklahoma. Does there 737 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: a team out west that? I mean? Oregon's teams on 738 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: paper is pretty good. I don't know if they their 739 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: coach is good enough. Yeah, I'd say Notre Dame has 740 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: a legitimate shot to make the playoffs again. They make 741 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: the playoffs last years or two years ago. I can't 742 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: even remember now what was our first round? Oakland? Yeah, 743 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: because oh yeah, Notre Dame played Clemson got their ASKI Hey, John, 744 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 1: love the pot. I was just wondering what players teams 745 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: you are most excited to watch this season? Well, I 746 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: want would be my home. So I just think he's 747 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: He's Steph Curry of football right now. He's box office. 748 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: I always loved watching the Patriots, Uh, I mean the 749 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: Browns are an incredible story. I'm a little biased because 750 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: they're in my backyard, but I want to watch Jimmy 751 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: come back. I want to watch Antonio Brown with Derek 752 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: I think the NFL is loaded with teams, the Eagles, 753 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Saints. I'm interested to watch the Falcons 754 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: this year. I like watching Seattle, the Rams, I mean 755 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury. I in Minnesota. There's no 756 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: way they're gonna, you know, are they gonna suck two 757 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: years in a row? What's Aaron Rodgers gonna look like 758 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: in his prime? I think the NFL right now is 759 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 1: absolutely loaded with good storylines. I mean, the only teams 760 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: like Middlecoff Who do you not want to watch? The Redskins, 761 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: The Bengals, Tampa kinda. I mean, there's only the Giants. 762 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: There's really only like four or five teams that just 763 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: like go man. I really like Dwayne Haskins, but I 764 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: feel like the Skins will not sit them. Along with 765 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,240 Speaker 1: Jay being on the hot seat, seems like if Scouts 766 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: thought Haskins needed a year to sit, I honestly hope 767 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: they let Gruden go after this season. Do you think 768 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: he makes it past two thousand nineteen? And if not, 769 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: who would the Redskins target? Well? I actually have a 770 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: great little sound bite here from my main man, Jay 771 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: talking about uh hard knocks. It's just so good. Let 772 00:38:54,040 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: me get it. Let me bring it up here. How 773 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: do you do us next year? Maybe not that he 774 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: makes the playoffs. If we don't make the playoffs, I 775 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: probably won't be here anyways, may come here and do 776 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: it all they want. So James, I mean just admitted. 777 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's playoffs or bust, and I got 778 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: I like Jay Gruden, but they're they're not making the playoffs. 779 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: Zero chance. I mean not a snowball's chance in hell 780 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 1: they're making the playoffs. So I would say that, yeah, 781 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: Gruden will more than likely be fired because I would 782 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: imagine the Redskins if I had to guess right now, Uh, 783 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: I'd go six wins. You kind of touched on it 784 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: in the podcast, but wanted to know your thoughts on 785 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: this debate. Someone sent me YouTube. I can't click it, 786 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: so I have to answer that guy back personally. I 787 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: have a couple of questions for you, since you're pretty 788 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: close to the Chiefs organization, How do you think the 789 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: defense looks this upcoming year? They pretty much overhauled their 790 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: scheme and replace so many legacy players. Yeah, I mean 791 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: Eric getting rid, Eric Berry us in Houston, Tom Bali, 792 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: Derek Johnson. I mean, in the last eighteen months was 793 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: the right move. I think that adding Frank Clark is 794 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: a big upgrade over d Forward. Adding the Honey Badger 795 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: is just a huge upgrade over them. Just because Eric 796 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: Barry didn't even play last year with Tyree Tyreek Hills 797 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: roll still up in the air. How do you think 798 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: that affects mahomes development? Am I crazy to think that 799 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: it could help his development since he'll be forced to 800 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: take more what the defense gives him than have him 801 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: methodically moved the team up and down the field rather 802 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: than just go for the home run play. I haven't 803 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: thought about it like that, but that's not a bad idea. 804 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: I know this. The chiefs chiefs believed Tyreek Hill and 805 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: his lawyers what they leaked out or didn't leak out. 806 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean they just handed out to the ESPN that 807 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: they think she's making it up. Uh clearly, And I 808 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: think the league, and I'm a big believer in this, 809 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 1: people like he should go to jail. And the media 810 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 1: loves saying this. They did it with Ruben Foster. I'm 811 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: never I never say that. Doesn't the progressive media say 812 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: that they don't like mass incarceration, then they immediately want 813 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 1: to throw these mine already young kids in jail. Let's 814 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: just I see it all the time. If he did it, 815 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 1: he should be in jail. If he didn't, she should 816 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: be in jail. She's making it up and right now, 817 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: I think that becomes a very difficult decision for the lead. 818 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: Like that, it's hard to know what to do. It's 819 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: not really black and white. So in terms of what happened, 820 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: I I really have no clue what's gonna happen with him. 821 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: But if he's not there, it has a huge impact 822 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: on the homes because you could argue that Tyreek Hills 823 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: one of the best. I forgot to have him on 824 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: the list earlier of best known quarterbacks of Khalil Mack, 825 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, Antonio Brown, Odell Beckham, Tyreek. Tyreek is better 826 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. Right now, that's that's a fact. So yeah, 827 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's I'd be a big loss. I'm a 828 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: n Iers fan originally from Sunny Vale, California. I see you. 829 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: I love to hear your take on all things NFC West. However, 830 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: my questions about the NFC South. Do you see the 831 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: Saints dominated division again or do you think the resurgence 832 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: of the Falcons Panthers or Bucks with arians. I think 833 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: the Bucks should just be better because b A is 834 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: a great coach. I'm not a big Panthers guy, but 835 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: I do think the come back this year's swinging. They 836 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 1: have a ton of guys coming back from injuries. Their 837 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: offense was good last year. Just personnel wise. You got Ridley, 838 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: you got Julio, you got Davonte, you got Maddie Ice 839 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: coming back. I think that the NFC sounds pretty interesting 840 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 1: division with between the Saints and the Falcons, which is 841 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,720 Speaker 1: kind of the rivalry right. I had a question concerning 842 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings in their tight end situation. How do 843 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: you think they should handle Kyle Rudolph and if Smith Jr? 844 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: What I would guess that Kyle Rudolf's traded by the 845 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: beginning of the season and that Urf Smith just as 846 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: their starting quarter or starting tight end. Uh Now, Kyle 847 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: Rudolph has been a big team leader, a big part 848 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: of their franchise. But that sure feels like where it's headed. Um. 849 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know enough about it. Obviously financial 850 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: implications are involved, but I would be I wouldn't say stunned, 851 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: but I would not expect uh Kyle Rudolf to be 852 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: on the team. Long suffering Bills fan here, what are 853 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,720 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the crowded backfield? Should they cut Shady 854 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: mc boy to save cat space and give more carries? 855 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: A singletary? Also, can Frank Gore possibly have anything left 856 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: in the tank? I would never count out Frank Gore 857 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: until he just can't walk anymore. I would also be 858 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: a little surprise if Shady McCoy's on the team this fall. 859 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: Whether it's a cut, whether it's a cap casualty, whether 860 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: it's trade, I would just expect him to be gone. 861 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: But they're gonna need production out of the backfield because 862 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: their quarterback is not that accurate, and the best way 863 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: to handle a young, inaccurate quarterback is to have a 864 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 1: guy to hand off too, so that they need to 865 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: figure out their running back situation. Okay, I'll get to 866 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 1: some of your more questions. Just interact with you guys directly, 867 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 1: but I appreciate everyone filling up my mailbox. You can 868 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: do it again at John Middlecoff Instagram, d MS wide open, 869 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: holler at me, enjoy the weekend, God speed, May the 870 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: peace be with you. And you know, don't get two 871 00:43:47,880 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: wasted this weekend see its