1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Ryan Fitzpatrick and you are listening to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: the e A Podcast with Eric Allen. Take it away. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: Thanks Fits now joining the studio by our linebacker, our 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: office linebacker, Bart Scott in the house today. What was 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: that you were doing in the hallway here at one 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: Jets Drive? What what what you know? I walked in 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: the office and I just can tell the morale was down. 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to come to work without any music, 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: soft music in the background. You know, stuff that you 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: remember subliminately. I remember being in college and like I 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: would know songs that I know I never listened to, 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: but it was always playing in the background. So when 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: they would come on the radio, I would find that 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: I knew the words. It's hard to come in and 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: I have a like environment that's like exciting and so 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: so the scenes sider today, Park explain for everybody at home. 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: You walked through the hallways. You got your cool shirt on. 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: First off, Brooklyn's own ironed Mike Tyson the Roots T shirt. 19 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: I love it. And Bart's looking all swall today because 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: he just finished from the gym, but it came in 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: and he didn't love the environment inside the building. On 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: the business side, I was always known for setting the environment, 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: for making sure everybody had fun. Every time you came 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: to work as a as a jet and we came 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: to that locker room, I had something going on, whether 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: it was the radio Awards with Braylon. He played his 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: best song, I played my best song that he went 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: and got a bigger speaker and I had to go 29 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: get a bigger speaker. And it was just funny because, 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: like you know, the players will come in and you 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: know you're here for a long time, and all the 32 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: time it's not a fun time. You know, you're tired, 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: you know you're beat up, you don't feel like practicing, 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: you're sleepy, you know you're you're you know you're hurting, 35 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, But when you put some music on, you 36 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: have some fun, you know what I mean, It makes 37 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: you forget about all that. So you know, that's the 38 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: same in office. So I came up here, I heard click, click, 39 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: just a couple of keys strokes. Yeah, just said, you know, 40 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: I could could you imagine how annoying that has to be. 41 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: You're trying to focus and concentrate, you can hear somebody 42 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: next to you pushing keys. So I said, listen man, 43 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: let's just get some move music, you know, so you 44 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: know it was none around. I heard they don't have 45 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: any speakers. I want to talk to Withy because he 46 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: owns baby powder, he should be able to put a 47 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: couple of speakers up in the silly to set the 48 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: move because that's gonna give you high productivity, you know, 49 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: so if you get if you got high productivity, then 50 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: you're going to get more accomplished. So what music when 51 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: you're playing on your phone to that? Well, I didn't 52 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: want to scare anybody, you know what I'm saying, so 53 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: I kept it safe. I was looking for some Luther, 54 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: but I didn't want to go to old school because 55 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: a lot of these cats in here don't even know 56 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: who Luther the van draws is, you know what I mean. 57 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: So I hit him with a little music slash Mary 58 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: j stay, you know what I mean, because everybody wants 59 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: to be in love. But it got a good beat, 60 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: but it's mellow. So they don't have a lot of 61 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: high pitchures and a lot of you know, high beat 62 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: line or nothing like that, or deep beat. It just mellow. 63 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: You know. It's like that white noise when they tell 64 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: you that you're when you're studying. What did they tell 65 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: you in college? Play Beethoven? Right, play Mozart? You know 66 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: you'll remember for young children. Yeah, and you're retained. So 67 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to help him reach out. I'm looking for 68 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: another job. I looking for another job. You're helping him. 69 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: Retained with Mary J. Blige. Everybody loves Mary all right. 70 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: So inside the locker room you brought up back in 71 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: the day when you were here and Braylon outwards, the 72 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: Jets receiver would have his music and you would have yours. 73 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: What was Braylon playing? And then what when you come 74 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: back with it was just it was just like the 75 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: hottest whatever the hottage music at the time was. But 76 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: every once in a while I would take him back 77 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: old school, like I got five on him the lux Or. 78 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: I would hit him with some scar face because what 79 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: happens is everybody's going to have that on the on 80 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: the iPad. But I would go deep. I would go 81 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: deep to like Cougi Rap your Nas, go to early 82 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: pod Biggie, and then he would have to counter with 83 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: an old school song. Now we're hitting with some EMC 84 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: Breed here. People don't realize that. Why would you play 85 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: MC Breed in the future on your front or you know, 86 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: people don't know that, but it was a subliminal disc 87 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: to him because mc breed was from Michigan, where we're from. 88 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: So that's so that's how you fight it out. Man. 89 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: I almost like a breakdance battle, but we were just 90 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: using our fingers instead of using our our moves. You 91 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: know what, I liked what you did when the Jets 92 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: brought Braylon Edwards in here. Even before he stopped foot 93 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: inside the locker room, you had boxing gloves hanging his locker. 94 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: You remember that. But I'm just making fun man, because 95 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: he had just got in the fight and pind the rosso. 96 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: Part of the reason he was part of the Jets 97 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: was because you know, first of all, you cannot go 98 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 1: against King King James. You know, he went against King James. 99 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: He got into an artercation. But one of his main 100 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: you're really fun at him, that was the president. Listen, 101 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: nobody's off limits. Nothing's off limits in the locker room. 102 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: And what happens is if you have fun with it, 103 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: then it doesn't have to be an elephant in the room. 104 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: So of course it's like one of those things somebody 105 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: fall and do something stupid to get blowed up. First 106 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: thing you're gonna do, you're gonna check are you okay? Man? 107 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: That was funny as hell. And then you gotta tease 108 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: them about it. You know what I mean, you had 109 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: a wax suit. If you had a wax suit, you know, 110 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: James handy Bow was a repeat offender, we would hang 111 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: your suit from the selling. You know, that's just how 112 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: it is. Listen, you gotta have thick skin in the 113 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: locker room. But what happens is when you're joking on 114 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: each other brings a bond and creates a bond because 115 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: now you're having fun none football while you're not talking 116 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 1: about the X and os. The funnest what people miss 117 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: is not the gangs. I don't remember a lot of games, 118 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: you know. I don't remember a lot of wins. I 119 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: remember some losses. I remember the funny stuff that happens 120 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: in the locker room before the game. I remember I 121 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: remember Anthony right when I was remember of the Ravens 122 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: and we're playing the Stillers, and it was like when 123 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: his first time is playing and Anthony is our backup quarterback. 124 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: So he's playing, he's getting start and he's like he's 125 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: free ain't gonna letting no man come in my kitchen 126 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: trick on my kool aid. We're like, what the hell 127 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: is he? He was like, oh man, this dude scared 128 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: as him. Man. We defense were on our own the day, baby, 129 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: because this dude is scared. Exactly when you're scared, you 130 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: start saying crazy stuff to hip yourself up. So as 131 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: a defense, we looked at each other men, sons, like 132 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: we by ourselves today. Defense. We that and every once 133 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: every once in a while we would have that connection here. 134 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: Every once in a while, me and Calvin will look up. 135 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: We punted the ball like twenty times in a row. 136 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: We look at each other. Defense, We by ourselves today. Boys, 137 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to pull something up magically. We're gonna 138 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: have to get a score ourselves, you know. And that's 139 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: just something that the defense we took, you know, because 140 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, the teams I played on a lot 141 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: of times here and a lot of times with the Ravens, 142 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: they were defensive, you know, defensive teams. You know, we 143 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: won games on defense. The majority of the salary cabin 144 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: spent on defense. So at something, at some point we 145 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: would say, listen, we understand who we are defense is 146 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: on us. Why do you think when we were with 147 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens, we created the old picture. You always saw 148 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: it with the Ravens. You always saw us pitching the ball, 149 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 1: like we get an interception, We pitched the ball because 150 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: I can remember getting interceptions, fumbles, kick off returns, get 151 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: them on a six yard line, the ten yard line 152 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: and we lose twenty yards and kick field goals or 153 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, lose the ball back. So we let listen. 154 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: It's no guarantee, no guarantee that we get a turn 155 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: it over and put him in a great position that 156 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: they're going to score. So we started, You said, you 157 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: know what, We're gonna put it in ourselves. So we 158 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: start pitching the ball all the time. And you can 159 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: always see ever reading pitch position or you always we 160 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: created like a wall in a set up return. Whenever 161 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: anybody had an interception, we had a design return and 162 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: we always had guys and we you will see multiple pitches. 163 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: Deon Sanders, by far, it's the greatest teammate I've ever had. 164 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: Everybody knows Neon Dion, everybody knows Prime. We know Deon Sanders. 165 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders, the teammate will do anything not for like 166 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: the people at the top of the roster, but for 167 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: anybody in the bottom of the roster. Man like he 168 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: didn't hide from people. He wouldn't trying an autograph, but 169 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: he'll take a picture with anybody. So the difference between 170 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: Ray and Dion is Ray, I don't know. Because of 171 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: the Atlanta situation, he was always insulated. You would you 172 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: could never see Ray at the mall. You will never 173 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: see Ray out at something that was like, you know, 174 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: just chill. You would either to see Read at his 175 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: restaurant or you see Read at the event. You will 176 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: see Dion at the local barbershop, like with his with 177 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: his van. He had his conversion veil with the tins 178 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: on him. You see them anywhere. You see him walking 179 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: in his flip flops in the regular mall. I will 180 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: say that's the first time I ever my Deon I 181 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: think was two thousand one, was my first year here 182 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: with the Jets, and he came in and he saw 183 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: Todd Husack, who was a backup quarterback at the time. 184 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: And I don't even know how many years you Sack 185 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: was in the NFL, but immediately Dion seek him out 186 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: because I think they played together late in his career too, 187 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: and they started hitting it off back and forth, but 188 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: everybody seated Provado and all you know, the air Dion 189 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: was who he sold to America. That's how he made 190 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: his money, Dion with the teammate. So I can remember 191 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: we had this this guy had to be like the 192 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: fiftieth man on the roster. And you know, he was liked, 193 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna becoming the Dallas and this this is in 194 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: the office and day I was like, man, hit me up, 195 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: you know whatever. You know, you can come through, you 196 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: can stay at the at the compound, because you know 197 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: he had at that time. I know he moved, but 198 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: he had like a house in Dallas on a Hunter acres, 199 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: had his own pond whatever. So so the guy called 200 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: Den like, prim I'm looking for your spot, man, I 201 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: can't find it. Like where is it? He was like, 202 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: he was like, he was like all I see is 203 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: this hotel and I don't see a house. He's like, man, 204 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: that's my house. Man, come on there, you know what 205 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: I mean? And that was Dion. Did you learn that 206 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: from him or is that all part of your deal 207 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: to begin with because you took a different path to Dion. 208 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: Because shoot, when I was growing up high school days. 209 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: Dion's on that cover. It's that that famous cover of 210 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: Sports illustrated the Dehon with the chains. Yeah, but you 211 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: know what, you know this this is this was guys 212 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: who understand Dion and Ray Lewis was probably the most 213 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: frequently teased players in the locker room. You wouldn't think that, 214 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: but they had too much material. So Ray had did 215 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: this this shoot. Uh maybe he was dating um Lisa 216 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: Ray or something like that. He at some point he 217 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: was dating her Um and he did the shoot with 218 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: her where he was on the pack of cards and 219 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: every shoot like he was a pharaoh and she was 220 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: like some Egyptian stuff. Every card was that. So we 221 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: found out that they existed and it had happened a 222 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: long time ago. But Rex had this thing. We all 223 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: had this thing because Rex wasn't the head coaches this time. 224 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: But if you did something, we would find it. We 225 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: would exploit it. Whether it's a stupid commercially didn't off 226 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: season for like some trump change or whatever. We would 227 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: find it. And so we bought like thirty packs of 228 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: the cards and we put them out. We would just 229 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: be throwing them everywhere and Ray would get mad he 230 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: try and get to collect them all and throw them 231 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: all the way. But we teased him all the time. 232 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: So you talk about that famous uh Dean Sanders picture 233 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: when he had to change on but he had a 234 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: leather jacket on, because I get I know what you're 235 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: talking about. It was a black leather jacket and had 236 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: upside donald triangle and had primed within it, and he 237 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: had leather pants, he had a Jerry curl, and he 238 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: had sunglasses. But he also had on white snakeskin loafers. 239 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: So of course we found that picture. Guess what we 240 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: did with it and you put it all over the 241 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: locker room. Nope, we went and had T shirts made. 242 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: Every player in the locker room had a Prime Time 243 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: T shirt and we would go out to practice with 244 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: him and we were wearing in warm ups just to 245 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: make fun of him, you know what I mean. So 246 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: it's like, but he probably loved it. Like you said, 247 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: he's such a great team. Man. Why did anybody do 248 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: to you in your career that you can repeat on 249 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: the podcast anyway that you really got a kick out of. Well, no, 250 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: it was funny, man Like early in my career, man 251 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: like they should tease me, especially because I was trying 252 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: to get laser hair removal right like two thousand and three, 253 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: right where you're really yeah, because you know early on, 254 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, even now, I'm still like ingrons was always 255 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: tough for me, right, So I'm gonna get laser hair removed. 256 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: But the technology he wasn't was new. So what happens 257 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: is when you get laser hair remobile, like because the 258 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: problem with black people was, uh, it would confuse the 259 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: pigmentation and the skin with the hair folicle. So sometimes 260 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: the lasers would miss and shoot your skin. Right, So 261 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: what happened was one time, one time I got it 262 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: done and it missed my skin and I got burned. 263 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: So what happens when you get burnt? Like, you can't 264 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: tell for a while, but then your skin starts pilling off. 265 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: So I had like pink spots all on it. So 266 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: when I of course, when I put my chin strap on, 267 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: it was rubbing it all. Then I tease me like, man, 268 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: what the hell like Freddy Cooger, man, don't every day 269 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: and practice and to a hill. They took a while 270 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: for the color to come back on my face, and 271 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: the Anthony Metro used to call me necessary crunch, you know, 272 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, which was funny, you know what I mean, 273 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: because we we tease him. Everybody has something to tease about. 274 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: You know. We always made fun of Terrell. We made 275 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: fun of everybody man, and we got here. We have 276 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: fun as well in this locker room. One of the 277 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: people don't know about David Harris because a lot of 278 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: guys who are teammates with Dave will say, you guys 279 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: don't see Dave because of course he doesn't want to spotlight. 280 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: He's not much. He's a friendly gentleman. He's a guy. 281 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: He treats the media with respect. He just doesn't like 282 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: the eye couple right here, right. He's gonna get you 283 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: exactly the answer you asked for. It's not gonna be 284 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: any color to it. And he's not gonna paint a picture. 285 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be yes, no, gonna be straight to 286 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: the point. But inside that meeting room, the guys said Dave. 287 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: David is a sarcastic a whole you know, That's what 288 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: people don't realize. Like he shoots, he's real subtle with it. 289 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: He'll say something that's a joke, or he'll say something 290 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: under his breath. I remember him and bet they will 291 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: always say something. They'll look at each other, you know 292 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: what I mean, and then it would take me a 293 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: while to realize that he was he was trying. He 294 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: was shooting. You're shooting day, you know. But you know, 295 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: me and Dave was like the eye couple. You know, 296 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: I'm all over the place, I'm loud, you know, I'm 297 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: equacious all that stuff, and Dave just like chill, so 298 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: like I would be talking and you know, but I 299 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: can get it of them, you know, I mean, we 300 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: we we had a lot of you know, fun moments, 301 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, watching you know, because we had Monday Night 302 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: at Barts of course, so guys will always come over 303 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: every Monday watch Monday Night football and then we'll go 304 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: out to the club. Now, sometimes they would go out, 305 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: sometimes he wouldn't, But you know, I did that to 306 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: create an environment so that, you know, because in the 307 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: locker room you have people have different parts of their life, 308 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, different belief systems, and so you may have 309 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: guys that may not go out, or you may have 310 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: guys that want to go out but they have no 311 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: excuse to get out for their wives, or you may 312 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: have guys that that go out all the time, So 313 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: how you blend the the married guy or the spiritual 314 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: guy or the religious guy with the wild guy that 315 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: just wild, not enjoying being young and enrich and and 316 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: and parted. Well, you bring them together on Monday night 317 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: watch the ball in your place. Speaking of the compounds, 318 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: we've heard you got a pretty nice place yourself. Come 319 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: on now, I'm I'm bawling on the budget man. That's 320 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: why I got That's why I got thirty nights at Barts. 321 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: Always wanted to go over Monday night at part So 322 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: we talked about that in the past. How many guys 323 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: would you have over that? It all depends sometimes to 324 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: be thirty, sometimes to be you know. And it was 325 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: a good thing because you know, you had you had 326 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: young players, old players, You had guys that make a 327 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: lot of money, guys that are making a minimum. You 328 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: had white players, black players, tongue in simoons, and you 329 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: had everybody there. And what happens is the closer you 330 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: can come together as a team, the better you're going 331 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: to be on the football field. And so folks at home, 332 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: they might not realize this right now, is that for 333 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: you guys, Tuesday's players day off and not so you 334 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: were very active in the community. We still are and 335 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: some players, you know, take part in that philanthropy as well. 336 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: Some guys come in early on a Tuesday, get their 337 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: ice paths, maybe work out or whatever. But that's kind 338 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: of when you can dictate your schedule. So Monday night 339 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: for the young dudes, that might be the time where 340 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: you can actually go because you can't go out on Tuesdays, 341 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: even though if you're off day Wednesday, you have to 342 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: go to work, So Monday is to day that you 343 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: go out. So Tuesday you can come get your workout in, 344 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: but if you're tired, you did it too big, you 345 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: can go to sleep at the Words, or you can 346 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: do whatever you have to do because it's not a 347 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: heavy day, you know. But if you go out Tuesday, 348 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: then now you're coming into practice and you're dehydrated, or 349 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: you're tired, or you can't focus. You need to be 350 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: sharp for for Wednesday. So I made sure that was 351 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: on Monday because you're coming Monday. Monday is a lift day, 352 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: and Monday it is like a day we just review 353 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: the film and you're out of here. At two guys 354 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: come together, then guys can go out so we can 355 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: have fun. So I gave him an option. So I 356 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: always and I always pay for everything. I always had 357 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: um two party bands. So for the guys who want 358 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: to go to the city at the words, you can say, 359 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, you can tell your wife, hey, I'm going 360 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: off the fellas this team building, So now you you 361 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: know you have an excuse to go out, because sometimes 362 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: it's hard for some guys. You know, the women run 363 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: the household in a lot of these players lives and 364 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: you're just saying, hey, I'm going out holding you're married, 365 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: what you're going out with? You can just say, I'm 366 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: team building. What do you guys have to do as 367 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: first when you want out as a group, because I'm 368 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: sure you can go out even though you're a big 369 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: guy and you're on CBS. I'm sure sometimes in the 370 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: city because a city so big, there's so many personalities 371 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: that maybe we're walking by and people don't recognize you. 372 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: But if it's in the city two fifty pounds, three 373 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: hundred pounds, people know that's so. So how do you 374 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: gotta watch yourself? As far as we understood that if 375 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, we have to be responsible, we 376 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: have to be professional. We're gonna go out here and 377 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: have fun. But we're not gonna put ourselves and make 378 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: ourselves vulnerable. We're not gonna get in trouble. You never 379 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: heard about anybody that went out with me on one 380 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: of those days for the four years I was here, 381 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: they got in trouble. We always took player protect We 382 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: always had all duty police officers with us, so if 383 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: anything happened, they can diffuse the situation. And that's the responsibility. 384 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: If we're gonna go out, we're gonna have fun, and 385 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: we're gonna continue this, then we have to make sure 386 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: they're responsible. We're doing a responsible way because at the 387 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: end of the day, we're professional, we're men, so we 388 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: should be able to go out. I don't care for 389 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: the thousand of us, and we should be able to 390 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: act accordingly and represent ourselves and represent our organization in 391 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: a positive light. No matter what we're doing, no matter 392 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: we're at a party, no matter if we're bowling, no 393 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: matter what we're doing, we can do it the right way. 394 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: We talked about boxing. Last week, Kelbrook got in the 395 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: ring with Triple G. He looked very well. He looked 396 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: very good. I thought they both looked good. Here's my 397 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: look at I should take a photo of you right 398 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: now because you're looking all swallow. I don't know how 399 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 1: much you weigh. Like I said, it's temporary. If you're 400 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: gonna take a you better take You just got out 401 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: of the gym yourself. But here's the thing, and you 402 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: know this about boxers is Brooke did look great, but 403 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: he was muscled up. Wownd he walks in there and 404 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: he's not He's not the bigger man. He he didn't 405 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: look as in shape as I'm used to saying him, 406 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: just because Brook looks so he looked like a body. Yeah, 407 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: but but Brooke is kind of built like that. He's 408 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: a muscular guy, you know what I mean. But Triple 409 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: G can say whatever he wants. Triple Gre was hurt 410 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: a couple of times. I know, so the way Triple 411 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: G backed up a couple of body shots. So I 412 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: had I had Brooke winning two rounds. I don't win 413 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: in two And I knew because he kept rubbing his eye, 414 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: I knew something. I thought he took a thumb to 415 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: the eye. And because it's not like he was taking 416 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: a beat and he was countering, you know, Triple G beautifully. 417 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: I've never seen Triple G get hit with that, and 418 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: I thought Triple g went in there like he's a 419 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: naturally smaller man, he can't hurt me, and he didn't 420 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: respected and you always get hurt by the punches that 421 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: you don't see. I would love to see a rematch. 422 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: I became a Brooke fan because he called Triple G 423 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: out a person that people are afraid of, and he 424 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: moved two weight classes up to do it, and he 425 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: looked dynamic to me, So I Brook, I think he's 426 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: as Walter Wade out there now. Yeah, I didn't realize 427 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: that Terence Crawford is a beast too, Terence Crawford. I 428 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: love Crowford too. Yeah, Man, you saw Porter and third 429 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: and in person. We were supposed to go to that 430 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: fight together, but you took your daughter, so, uh, you 431 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: can't get bad at the baby. So but I'm still 432 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: upset I didn't get a chance to see that because 433 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: Porter and Thurman they put on the show. They put 434 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: out a show. What do you think about those two 435 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: and how they would potentially match up with Brooke at welterweight? Well, 436 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: I like I like Thurman versus Brooke. I think Porter 437 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: don't don't don't have the skills to boxing. I Q 438 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: he's more of a like. He's more of a yeah yeah, 439 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: he's like a can I buntrick under Riche like he 440 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: just comes in, he hits you with elbows, he pushed 441 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: you back. He's like a football player boxing, not with 442 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: natural punchy power. He's not right right, He's a he's 443 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: a musk, he's musclar guy. He looks great, but you 444 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: look at Thurman. He doesn't have any muscles, and that's 445 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: what you want, you know. I always think about Kelly 446 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: Pablick and how he had that whip because he was 447 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: so skinny, no musclar, and he catched on end. It 448 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: was like being at the end of the wi you 449 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 1: know what I mean. You think about even though you 450 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: know the hit man was uper you ripped, he will 451 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: still have that long lane muscle, you know what I mean. 452 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: He just couldn't take a punch when he was in trouble. 453 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: You know. You know when he smiled, you knew it 454 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: was in trouble. You know he's ready to get knocked out. 455 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: But I think Thurman with fair better. I would love 456 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: to listen. People don't realize people are saying, oh ufc 457 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: ufc boxing in the next five years, it's gonna explode. 458 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna come back because you have so many great 459 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: fighters in their prime, in their own a collision course 460 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: to fight each other. We'll get well, we'll we'll get 461 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: November nineteenth, we'll get cold off, and we'll get war. 462 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: That's great. But other than than those two in that division, 463 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: I don't see anybody else. Pascal's kind of like a 464 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: level below them. But Crawford Thurman, you know, even um 465 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: My God, that just went to jail for beating somebody 466 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: up at craps. He thinks he's madeweather billions. Oh the problem? Yeah, 467 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: he Anthony Yea. So he got Broner once he comes 468 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: back from his courts. Brently so a good fighter. He 469 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: doesn't have knockout poser. What do you think? Yeah, so 470 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: he can get an upset maybe against one of those guys. 471 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: You got Porter, you got Thurman. Um, who's the guy 472 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: that just beat Um the guy from California, from from Sweden. 473 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: He just beat the guy from California. Throws like a 474 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: thousand punches around. That was a great fight too. I 475 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: don't know, but I like the welter weight division. I 476 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: always have heavy weights is coming back to I think 477 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: bro can beat anybody though at his weight he could, 478 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: but as well, Thurman has knockout power. Now. I know 479 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: he didn't show it because he was slugger, but when 480 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: he's been going up in class, don't you think that 481 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: you haven't seen a knockout power? Now? Well, you know, 482 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: he heard his shoulder and he heard us, he heard 483 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: his he heard his hand. You know, he had surgery 484 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: and then he got an accident, you know, and that's 485 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: what postponed the original fight. But I would love to 486 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: see Browner against a gift uh Brooke Broner. He's just 487 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: a guy that lacks focus for long duration. But when 488 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: he knows, I know he would think, Okay, I gotta 489 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: fight this guy. Gotta be at my best. He's a 490 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: great counterpart. He's a great fighter. He's just too arrogant 491 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: and he thought he was Floyd Mayweather too early, you know. 492 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: But you know we got some great fight because Triple 493 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: G Alvarez at once six, he's gonna special. It seems 494 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: like Alvarez doesn't want that fight. He's gonna have to 495 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: take it. That's the mad backer. Bert Scott, Are we 496 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: done no about to say? Because you're just getting under 497 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: why we gotta talk some Jets football at some point here. Okay, 498 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: that is true. Jets fans, you played here, you know, 499 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: the initial reactions Sunday afternoon at four thirty after that ball, 500 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: we're probably here with the same old that that old, 501 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: the same old, the missed opportunities, and even it's just 502 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: one game, a lot of people really upset. What did 503 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: you take out of the first game, because you know 504 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: me working here, you're coming in here for the analysis. 505 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: But honestly, I looked at the Jets and said they 506 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: stood up to a good team. No moral victories, but 507 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 1: there is a lot of good to happen, and you 508 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: just mentioned Monday's. As a player, you come in and 509 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: correct the mistakes. The Jets made plenty of mistakes too, 510 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: but there are talented football. Yeah, of course, play of mistakes. 511 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: With the issue is there's plenty of talent team. Did 512 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: you did you get an opportunity to look at the 513 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh stillers? You know, and you can't fall behind because 514 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: New England went on and gotta win that they that 515 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: we all had slayed it as a law. You know, 516 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: Miami defense looked great, you know, to be able to 517 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: slow down, you know, you know Seattle and the twelfth Man. 518 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: So you know, I think before the season, we all 519 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: kind of thought, you know, Miami here, that's two wins. 520 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: Can't take anything for granted. A lot of talented football teams, 521 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: um in this division. There's a lot of talent football 522 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: teams in the a f c. Um. I thought it 523 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: was some missopportunities. Watching the game in the studio, I 524 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: thought the Jets should have been up, should have had 525 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: like twenty four points in the first half, you know, 526 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: just miss opportunities. Nick Folks, you know, for whatever reason, 527 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: just wasn't on point. Um. I think Fitzpatrick, you know, 528 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: coming in, he really wasn't as accurate as he would 529 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: like to be. Some throws he would like to have back. 530 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: And then the miscommunication on revers Um. I saw that 531 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: call and and that had nothing to do with revers 532 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: On the long pass to a j Green, what we 533 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: call that plays a speedo, And what happens is you 534 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: have to communicate that play post play and it's hard 535 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: to recognize, but the speedos, when you have two receivers 536 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: in the cut split, it's an indication that they're going 537 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: to cross, that they're both going across the field. But 538 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: how the Bengals disguised it is they had a guy 539 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: to come in and do the fake reverse. See but 540 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: if you take that guy out the way, you have 541 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: cut split. Your automatically knows the speedo, but it has 542 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: to be communicated between corner to safety. The corner Gilchrist 543 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: grabs it from the front side because one of the 544 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: overalls is coming to him once your man disappears, because 545 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: you essentially have three on two. Once youure man disappears underneath, 546 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: the backside corner is supposed to climb hire and replace 547 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: the safety in the post. So what happens is ReBs 548 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: just keeps maintains outside leverage. So what happens is you 549 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: sandwiched the receiver. That's why ReBs was outside. But once 550 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: he realized that nobody was there, he tried to late coming, 551 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: cut in front and hit because the revers was supposed 552 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: to play for the post corner because he knows what 553 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: he did and he was in good position. Correct, But 554 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: that's what nobody at home and everybody's like, oh, Reevers 555 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: got burned by a j Green. Where you're explaining this, 556 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: the backside corner is supposed to what we call it 557 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: a shove and once the overall happens. So that's basically 558 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: like once my man disappears underneath, he's going to somebody 559 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: else because we're doing three on three on two, so 560 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: you have to recognize it immediately. Soon as your guy 561 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: go away, you climb high. And you know, I think 562 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: Williams missed the opportunity to have an easy interception. But 563 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: you know what happens as the fan um sees the 564 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: person closest to the person. You're right, what does the 565 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: action in the backfield like you just mentioned, what did 566 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: it do? It made well, it made no no, it disguised. 567 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: It disguised, and it disguised the formation. So if they 568 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: would just lined up like that, they were communicated easy. 569 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: But it's all about tricking your eyes. So they tricked 570 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: their eyes and that's what the fingals are known for. 571 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: I talked to guys going back, going back from you. 572 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: They're never going to show up and show you, hey, 573 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: this is what we're doing. Because you're playing, you understand 574 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: what's coming. And I think you know, Williams is relatively 575 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: a young guy, the third year, so so that's one 576 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: of those things that I don't respect him to ever 577 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: get beat on again because I'm sure he got chewed 578 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: out and I'm sure that he felt bad that he 579 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: left his partner vulnerable. And now Revis has an answer 580 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: questions that he shouldn't have to answer, right, And that's 581 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: the tough part of the business. Yeah, and you know, 582 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: that's that's what Monday was about because I'm you know, Tuesday, 583 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure because a short week, you know, that's what 584 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about. And what happens, this is a copycat league. 585 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: Now they're going to get that round until they get 586 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: it figured out. So maybe this year, this week it's 587 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: Revis that has a climb high, you know, So they're 588 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: gonna try and do it. They're gonna try and duplicate it, 589 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: but they're not going to give you the same exact 590 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: rout because teams assumed that you corrected that. Everybody was 591 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: very professional about that, and I remember you used to 592 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: do that yourself. Is that you know, the guy said 593 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: miscommunication and they're not going to point the fingers and 594 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: and that's what you expect from guys like Revis, kill 595 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 1: Chris and even markets for a young guy. Uh well, well, 596 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: of course he's not a point because he had a 597 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: point that nobody. He's a tremendous kid. Yeah, but that's 598 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: how you know you have a tight locker room. But 599 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: I remember that Atlanta game where you guys played a 600 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: phenomenal defense way back in the day press out number 601 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: two and we talked about it before the snap, and 602 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: we told the corner that was coming. Who else do 603 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: you think they're going through the Hall of Famer on 604 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: the press? That's all he runs. And me and Tony 605 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 1: talked about that all the time on the set, and 606 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: you and they came to you and you guys were 607 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: not gonna discuss. That's family business, family business. And I 608 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: thought that Jets handles themselves while and I still think 609 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: they have a very talented secondary. Bottom line, Uh, why 610 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: receiver screens? How do you counter that? Because a lot 611 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: of fans have been asking me that on Twitter. They Yeah, 612 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: there's this overreaction part and I can't stand it. And 613 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: you're laughing because you lived it because you've been asked 614 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: about it so many times throughout your career. Anytime goes wrong, 615 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, well, why receiver screens? What's the counter there? 616 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: And obviously we'll all screens. The person who can disrupt 617 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: the screen fastest, the D line because you know, once 618 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: you recognize it, your guy leaves to go block. You know, 619 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: you you can't continue to pass rush and you're not 620 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: really accounted for, so the lineman to take you right 621 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: to it. So you see a lot of times the 622 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: outside linebackers, you know, are the guys that make the 623 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: tackles on the screen because the guys there they have 624 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: a blocker for everybody. You know, they have a guy 625 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: for everybody. So it's it's important that the widest guy, 626 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: usually the corner, sets the edge to make the receiver 627 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: have to take the ball inside. You can't get him 628 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: outside because you cut your defense off because now everybody's 629 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: so Now you've got eleven guys you know, to the 630 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: left or to the right of the receiver, and he 631 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: can get the sideline. You can't let him get the sidelight. 632 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: You make him have to come in. That's when you 633 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: get the earhole shots from the d lineman. But everybody 634 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: has to do their responsibility to stand up and not 635 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: give him outside, you know, release he has to come 636 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: inside if he's gonna catch that screen. You do you 637 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: think this has the makings of a very good defense. 638 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: So did you see what they did? I mean, and 639 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: he dont I'm sure that any Don is icing, you know, 640 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure Andy Dalton is is icing down today, like 641 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: seven sacks. Come on, man, He's never been sacked that much, 642 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 1: you know. And you knew that they came in saying, hey, 643 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: we gotta get rid of the ball fast, and they 644 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: and they tried, you know, but they were just I mean, 645 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: it was awesome. And you get showing the Richards and 646 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: back this week, which is just going to add to 647 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: to the chaos at the front line. And right now 648 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills are beat up offensively, Glens injured, you know, 649 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins is hurt. You know. Now, now you gotta 650 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: go up there. You gotta be piste off one. You 651 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: should be piste off from last year because they stopped 652 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: you from getting to where you wanted to go. Also, 653 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: because this is a divisional game early on, and if 654 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: you win this one, you get a long rest to recover. 655 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: So this is like having a mini by early in 656 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: the season. So it allows you to have a strong 657 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: first half because the knicks and the plays aren't building up. 658 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: If you can survive, the winner of this game is 659 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: setting themselves up to have a mini by to be 660 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: able to self scout the next opponent landscape is totally different. 661 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: You're right, Okay, so you just muntioned. So we're gonna 662 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: ask you to putting your analysts head on as you 663 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: look at this game, because you know Rex's defense better 664 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: than anybody. But I'm gonna start not that defense, okay, 665 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you this. The first thing, 666 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: as you mentioned the Bills, they're banged up upfront. Cordy Gline. 667 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: We don't know if he's gonna play. He's their left tackle, 668 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins. Whether he's playing or not, let's let's talk 669 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: about off the field issues. That's that's that's what's hurting 670 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: in more than anything. It seems to be bothering with 671 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: the Mary uh Darius loved to puff and the magic Dragon. 672 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: So he's gone for four weeks. You know, they lost 673 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: Reggie Raglan, who I think Rex was trying to grow 674 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: him to be David kind of be the field general 675 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: to get everybody lined up, and then you know Shack 676 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: Lawson isn't isn't available. That's a huge hit. So so 677 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: offensively though, Greg Roman, how is he going to attack 678 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: this Jets defense? Because you know, in the past, the Bills, 679 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: we try it out physically, they were the number one 680 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: team and then I following terms of rushing, Shady McCoy 681 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: is a great running back. Well, William Williams was there 682 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: hammer and once again off the field issues. He's no 683 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: longer with the team, so they don't have that ability. 684 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: Reggie Bushes Reggie Bush, he's more of a finess runner 685 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: and he's a guy that you're gonna try and exploit 686 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: in matchups. And you know, much like um Um chan 687 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: use Forte, they're going to try and use him to 688 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: match up against these these running backs. The person that 689 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: the Jets are going to have to neutralize and the 690 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: person that's a problem is what all teams trying to attack. 691 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: Um the Jets and that's what the safety. They're gonna 692 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: try and attack the safeties. And Charles Klay is one 693 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: of the best um utility tight ends in the game. 694 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's only maybe a couple of other guys 695 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: that's like him. And he's like a younger version of 696 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: Delaney Walker. People remember all the things that Delaney Walker 697 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: did when he was with San Francisco. If you watch 698 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: with Delaney Walker does with the Titans. He's a matchup 699 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: nightmare because he's not just like Gronk. He's also he's 700 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: more like Hernandez where he's able to motion. He can 701 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: go in the backfield. He can be a fullback, you know, 702 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: because he's not six six, so he can be a fullback, 703 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 1: or he can go out and he can be a receiver. 704 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: And if you match up with a safety, they can 705 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: run the ball. If you match up with a linebacker, 706 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna leave him in space. So now that's the 707 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: person that you have to try and take away because 708 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: he works in controls the middle of the field, and 709 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: they didn't really get him the ball they had. He 710 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: had one big play that was on a breakdown exactly. 711 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: So what happens is you have to make sure that 712 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: you treat Tyrod like Michael Vick, meaning that you don't 713 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: rush past his depth. You keep them bottled up, and 714 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: you don't allow him to buy that time because when 715 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: he buys time, that's when it becomes playground ball. So 716 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: you keep them you you you you confuse him and 717 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: color his eyes, meaning that you run stunts in between 718 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: because he's not tall, so if you run a stunts between, 719 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: he has to move to see see if you just 720 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: rush up the field, you're gonna give him a thorn lane. 721 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: So the same lanes that he looks to the throw too, 722 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: he looks through to run through. So if you confuse 723 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: the line and cross the linebackers stunts an inside, then 724 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: he has to step out, and if he steps side, 725 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: he should step out right to your outside pass rush. 726 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: A lot of people say he doesn't throw over the 727 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: middle of the field. A lot that a lot of 728 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: the third pass patterns that he's wrong. He's looking to 729 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: throw outside the numbers. What is that up? More of 730 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: a white thing? What's the deal there? Well, I think 731 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: it's just more more of their philosophy. And Charles Clay 732 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: has a lot of times drawing so much you know, 733 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: uh coverage that they throw, they try and throw over 734 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: the top. You know they they're going for big plays. 735 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: You know he's capable of making all the throws. I 736 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: think when it's all of said and done in the 737 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: next by next year, I think will consider Tyrod Teller 738 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: top ten quarterbacks. Yeah, he can play some ball. Now 739 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: you have to worry about him being healthy, but he 740 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: can play some Ball's interesting some Rex trying to trade 741 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: for him here because Ray Lewis and all those guys 742 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: were telling Rex how dynamic he was team quarterback, right. 743 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: The problem was he was behind Joe Flacco who had 744 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: had tremendous success. But he's make no bones about it, 745 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: He's the real deal. Huh. Other side of the ball, 746 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: you said, this isn't Rex defense that he played here 747 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: because obviously a different personnel. But how is telling me 748 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: about the matchup between him and Jen Gaily Ryan Fitzpatrick. Well, 749 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: Rex is gonna try and jump things because he doesn't 750 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: believe that Fitzpatrick has a big arm. So he's gonna 751 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: make Fitzpatrick has to throw to the field. He's gonna 752 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: pack the boundary and make sure all his throws that 753 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: are available are to the white side of the field. 754 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: So if you're throwing to the wide side of the field, 755 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: a five yard route or a ten yard route becomes 756 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: twenty because you're throwing across the field. You know, much 757 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: like you know Rex us when we're in Baltimore, That's 758 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: what we did against Chad Pennington. We just say throws 759 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: a big ball. So I mean he doesn't have elite 760 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,479 Speaker 1: arm strength. So what happens is you make him throw 761 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: past his that he has to put more mustard on it. 762 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: And to do that, when you don't have a big arm, 763 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: you have to load up to throw it. So when 764 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: you load up, the thority gives defensive back to the 765 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: opportunity to jump things. So it's gonna be important for 766 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick to try and hit something deep early to earn 767 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: the respect because they're gonna sit on all his routes. 768 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: They play you expect man press with Gilmore, They'll play 769 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 1: they they'll play around, they'll play around, they'll they'll come 770 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: up and dial, but at the end of the day, 771 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: they're sticking. They're sitting on those sticks. They're waiting to jump. So, 772 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: see you, you should be coming with a double move early, 773 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 1: trying to get your one of if you see uh, 774 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: if you see cover one, hit him with a double move. 775 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: Plays to be made down the field. And because they're 776 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: not gonna respect his arm, they're gonna sit on all 777 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: the routes. You know, I've been in those meetings. I 778 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: know how he sees Fitzpatrick, and I know how he 779 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: plays Fitzpatrick. He's gonna sit on the rocks and make 780 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: him beat him. He's gonna make him prove that he 781 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: can complete fifteen yards out to the white side of 782 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: the field, which becomes you know, that's something that you 783 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: know Brady throws, that's something that Flacco throws. That's something 784 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: that you know guys were big arms throw, not not 785 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: a lot of guys, you know, throw those passes. What 786 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 1: do you think about fourteen anything surprised you because even 787 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: see he's he's who he is. That the kids can 788 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: the old man keep it up, you know what I mean. 789 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: So I think you're you're gonna have to um, you know, 790 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: get Balah poling some of those situations where you know 791 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: those roles Balah can do some of those same um passes, 792 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: those screens, those out routes, you know, matched up, you know, 793 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: but you gotta, you gotta. You know, he was a 794 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: workhorse the first game. You know, he may be able 795 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: to be a workhorse this game. But sometimes you gotta 796 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: protect great players from itself. So you know, I would 797 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: like to see him maybe five less plays, you know 798 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: what I mean, That way you stay fresh, you know, 799 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 1: I mean, because you need him for the long haul, 800 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because he was very explosive. 801 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: That Bala has improved more than any player I believe 802 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: in NFL. His jump from last from his jump from 803 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: Rex's last year too. I think Chan didn't understand really 804 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: what he had because Bala Pa had. You know, he 805 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: we always knew he was a tremendous pass protector. But 806 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: now we're starting to see he's starting to figure out. 807 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm starting to see the running back that I saw 808 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: in his highlight tape and louis right. See, but early 809 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: in his career he wasn't he was five yards, he 810 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: was four yards. Now he's right exactly because now he 811 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: believes in the game has slowed down for him. What 812 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: about a noon one. You're excited about him seven receptions 813 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: last game, and his emergence can help I think brand 814 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: And so so this is how Rex is going to 815 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: see a noon one. Rex is going to see a 816 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: noon wha the same way that chance you should use 817 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: Nelson because that's basically who he is. He's Nelson in 818 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: this offense. So he's gonna have the same game plan 819 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: against Nelson. And that is do you want me to 820 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: give see I'm conflicted what I'm saying because because we 821 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: just wanted side of the room. I'm conflicted, man, So 822 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: like I didn't know you just got off the phone 823 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: with Rex. I mean, I mean, how do you think 824 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna play Okay, I mean I don't know, because 825 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know the philosophy, but he 826 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: has different personnel on that side of how do you 827 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: think this is gonna play out? Is this this is 828 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: gonna be this is gonna be emotional game? Because if 829 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: this did listen, these two teams or Rex would play 830 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: this game for free. He would play this game if 831 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 1: you guys ever scrimmaged each other, and he would play 832 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: this like it was a super Bowl. So you have 833 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: to you have to guard against that. Both teams are 834 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: going to have to keep their emotions and check they're 835 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: gonna keep their emotions and checking the team that plays 836 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: a clean game Rex. Teams that have been known for 837 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: self destructing with penalties, you know, holding calls. You know, 838 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: I guess penalties and holding calls are the same thing. 839 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 1: So you have to make sure it's a jet that 840 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: you just don't beat yourself, make them beat themselves, make 841 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: them lose. It is there initial searche from playing at 842 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: home and that place. Of course, you know home is 843 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: worth three points. You believe that absolutely are It's worth 844 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: three points. You know, sometimes even if those first drives, 845 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: it's so script. There's so much emotion that running backs 846 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: running through. He's fallen forward a couple of times, you 847 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like their own script, you know. 848 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be you know, it's gonna be emotional. 849 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: But the game was settled down by the second what's 850 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: gonna happen by the fourth quarter? I don't even want 851 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: a prediction, but do you see this game being tighten 852 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: the fourth? Absolutely? Yeah? You know what happens is I 853 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 1: don't you know, Rex, When you look at the Bills, 854 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 1: I think they're more injured and less healthy than the Jets. 855 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: So the Jets should have the advantage because they're the fresher, 856 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: more healthier team. They're the deeper team. Although, uh, the 857 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: offense of the Bills is talented on paper, they don't 858 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: have a lot of depth. You got, they don't have 859 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: a noon while they don't have one of those your 860 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: unsung hero type of guys that can give you a spark, 861 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: you know right when you just see it as the 862 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: four players you're high on ty Rode obviously, Yeah, yeah, 863 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: Like the Bush hasn't given them that production. He hasn't 864 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: so so advantage Jets because of Noon Wir and BAP. 865 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: So that's two guys that that's gonna contribute a lot. 866 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: They gotta put all the burton on four guys. And 867 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: that's why you gotta play clean. Yeah, let him beat themselves, 868 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: let himself destruct. You gotta play clean because both teams 869 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: got to make sure that they don't press like this 870 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: is a pivotal game. Nobody, like the statistics say go 871 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 1: on too. You know, you're you know, and we all 872 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: know what to just have ahead of them even after 873 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 1: these games. You know, some likes you make the playoffs, 874 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: you go on to and then if you're one on 875 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: and like you mentioned, it's like around. But like you mentioned, 876 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: you win this game, you're fine. Yeah, you have to 877 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: have the league. Half the league lost last week, so 878 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: I have the league. That's the mad Backer. It was 879 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna be back here on Friday because we're gonna break 880 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: down the Jets and the Buffalo Bills and hopefully the 881 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 1: Green and White are one and one. And um, I'm 882 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: gonna be working on about four hours sleep. Brother, you 883 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: might have to carry me, can you do that? I 884 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: know you're doing a bunch of chinnops. No footprints footprints. Yeah, 885 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: you don't know footprints. No, do you want to explain 886 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: foot prints? I'm the time we got We got about 887 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Let's go. So footprints. So man was walking 888 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: into Sandy. Of course, Frint being that guy, carried you. 889 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to carry you. It's gonna be one set 890 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: of footprints. Was gonna because I'm gonna put you on 891 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: my back. That's it. Friday