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Speaker 2: Hey Hurdler's Emily a body here with episode one eighth

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Speaker 2: of Kurdle, a wellness focused podcast where I sit down

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Speaker 2: with inspiring individuals to talk about everything from their big

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Speaker 2: This week, I am chatting with CrossFit legend Rich Froning.

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Speaker 2: Rich gives me some flack for referring to him that

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Speaker 2: Rich has all of that. He won the CrossFit Games,

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Speaker 1: that's that's kind of the point of of why we're

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Speaker 1: doing what we're doing. And you know, you kind of

430
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Speaker 1: you look at it and you can really geek out

431
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Speaker 1: on it and look at the energy systems. And the

432
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: idea behind CrossFit is you want to be you know,

433
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Speaker 1: well rounded in all three energy systems. So you need

434
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Speaker 1: to lift a heavy barbell for the phosphagen system. You

435
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: got the glycolytic system, which is you know, anywhere from

436
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: it there's it can go on for seven or eight minutes,

437
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: and then you have aerobic and it's just there's the

438
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Speaker 1: idea that you want to get good in each of

439
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 1: those things. You don't want to necessarily be the strongest person.

440
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 1: People get so caught up in well, you know, there's

441
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Speaker 1: so many of these high you know, high scale complex

442
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: movements and the barbells are so heavy and stuff like that.

443
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 1: That's most of the time, nine times out of ten,

444
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Speaker 1: if you find a good gym, the programming is going

445
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 1: to be well rounded. You should be able to scale

446
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: every workout to get a similar stimulus that say I

447
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 1: would get from a workout, and so you could have

448
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: somebody who's doing you know, it's going to be the

449
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: top one percent working out with somebody who's new to

450
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 1: the gym. And so that's something that a lot of

451
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: people don't see, I guess, or they see the CrossFit

452
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: games and I crossfits trying to CrossFit dot com is

453
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: actually trying to I guess, shed some light on Hey,

454
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to You were not just you know,

455
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: CrossFit games. Athletes were stay at home, you know, moms

456
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: were you know, older older athletes. I'd like to talk

457
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Speaker 1: or think of them as you know, people that are

458
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Speaker 1: in their you know, fifties and sixties. They can still

459
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Speaker 1: do it. And so it's it's been really cool actually

460
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 1: since all this quarantine stuff's gone on, what we did

461
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: here at Mayhem was if somebody was a paying member,

462
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: they could check out a dumbbell and a plate. And

463
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Speaker 1: so we've actually programmed every workout for the past month,

464
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Speaker 1: month and a half with only a dumbbell or a plate,

465
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Speaker 1: and we've been doing the games. Athletes that are still

466
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Speaker 1: here right now. Meteja at Kristen have been doing all

467
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Speaker 1: the zoom classes or workouts with the class, and so

468
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: just to show them, hey, you know, like it doesn't

469
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: matter if you're you know, going to the Crosswit games

470
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: or if you're just you know, trying to be fit

471
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Speaker 1: for life, that you can still do. We can we

472
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: can all do the same workout and it's going to

473
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Speaker 1: hurt us just as much as it's gonna hurt you.

474
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Speaker 1: And uh, they've been really terrible workouts. And the most

475
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Speaker 1: we've used is a fifty five pound Dumbell because everybody

476
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Speaker 1: checked out the fifty so I've been having to use

477
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Speaker 1: a fifty and the girls are using a thirty five,

478
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: and so all the workouts have been terrible, absolutely miserable.

479
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: So there hasn't been what.

480
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Speaker 2: Does that mean though they've been terrible?

481
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Speaker 1: I mean because the problem is, you know, like they're

482
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say they're light, because a fifty

483
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: or fifty five pound Dumbell with the you know, single

484
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: arm is still pretty heavy. But there's really for us personally,

485
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: there's no reason to stop and so you just have

486
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Speaker 1: to keep going. And so I don't know, the intensity

487
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: has just been a bit higher on a regular basis.

488
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Speaker 1: You know, we want to train intensity every day, but

489
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Speaker 1: that may be a little bit different. And you know,

490
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Speaker 1: intensity can be defined as you know, the weight is

491
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Speaker 1: a little bit heavier, or you know, CrossFit likes to

492
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: fine workouts by power output, and so that's work divided

493
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Speaker 1: by time, and so it's I don't know, they've just

494
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: been they've been really terrible. So like this morning, we

495
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Speaker 1: did one and it was fifty box jumps. We don't

496
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Speaker 1: let we're not having people rebound because I don't want

497
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Speaker 1: people to blow out an achilles, So you're just box

498
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: jumping or step up, whatever you want to do, and

499
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: then fifty berpies and then fifty dumbbell cleaning jerks with

500
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Speaker 1: a single arm dumbell, so you're just doing alternating arms,

501
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: and then fifty sit ups and it was a twenty

502
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Speaker 1: minute am wrap. It was terrible. I don't know, your

503
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: heart rate is just you know, super high. It's you know,

504
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: there's really no reason to you know, like with the

505
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: fifty Dumbell cleaning jerks for us, it's like you get

506
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Speaker 1: to like thirty and you're you want to put it down,

507
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: but nobody else is putting it down, and so there's

508
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Speaker 1: really no reason to put it down because you're not

509
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: gonna come back to it, and so I don't know,

510
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Speaker 1: it's just really they've just been terrible. I don't really

511
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Speaker 1: know how. Yeah, there's no other way to explain it

512
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Speaker 1: other than the workouts have been bad.

513
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Speaker 2: All right. So you find out that competing in CrossFit

514
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: is a thing. Your cousin Darren moves down from Michigan.

515
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 2: You guys are doing this CrossFit thing together. You are

516
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Speaker 2: the one that's like, all right, I'm actually going to

517
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Speaker 2: compete and talk to me about if you can remember

518
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: that first competition you entered.

519
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember pretty pretty vividly. You know, I showed

520
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: We showed up. It was kind of on the way, well,

521
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: it was definitely on the way to spring break. We

522
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: were going on spring break the next week, because heck,

523
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Speaker 1: we're still in college and we're going down to Panama

524
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: City and it's on the way in Huntsville, Alabama, And

525
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Speaker 1: it was just Friday, no, I guess it was Saturday

526
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Speaker 1: Sunday that year. And we show up. We get there

527
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Speaker 1: late Friday night, don't have a hotel. We end up

528
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Speaker 1: just we're cheap college kids. We end up finding a

529
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Speaker 1: hotel for thirty eight bucks a night, and it was.

530
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Speaker 1: It was bad there. We were broken woking up in

531
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Speaker 1: the middle of the night by a glass bottle breaking.

532
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Speaker 1: As soon as we get into the room, I'm trying

533
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: to like the light switch won't work, so I go

534
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: to the lamp and we go to move the couch

535
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: that's in front of the or chair that's in front

536
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: of the lamp, and a tunic can is actually one

537
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: of the legs of the couch. So we got a

538
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: different hotel room the next night. And it was, like

539
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: I said, there was a do not rent to list.

540
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: There was bulletproof glass, you know, it was. It was

541
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: really good. But anyway, so we show up to this

542
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: event and you know, it's seven in the morning on

543
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: a Saturday in Huntsville, Alabama. We at like kind of

544
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: the soccer complex and the first workout was fifty meters shuttle.

545
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: You start from a seated position. It was like ten

546
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: hand cleans, ten burpies, and it was three rounds. And

547
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: so you show up. There's seventy eight guys there and

548
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 1: they're all just jacked. And I mean, you've ever been

549
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: to a CrossFit competition. Everybody just looks huge and ripped

550
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: and you're just I was, you know, I'm five five

551
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: to nine and a half on a good day, five

552
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: to ten, and I'm like, okay, if if I'm not

553
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: in the top you have to be in the top

554
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: fifteen to transfer at that point. So I was like,

555
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: if I'm not in the top fifteen, let's just, you know,

556
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and get on a get an early

557
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: break on spring break, and so I we do the

558
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: first workout dying. You know, it's the hardest I've ever

559
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: gone in a workout, like can't get up. And Darren

560
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: comes up and he's like, he's like, I think he

561
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: did pretty good, and you can't really tell because you know,

562
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: there's different heats. I was in one of the earlier heats,

563
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: I think because there's no real qualification or anything like that.

564
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: It was literally you just signed up, and so we

565
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: waited probably fifteen twenty minutes. Starre it's like, I'm gonna

566
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: go check the leaderboard. It was just a whiteboard with

567
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: names and times, and so he walks back over kind

568
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: of wide eyed and he's like, you won that workout.

569
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, no way, not a chance. So sure enough,

570
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: I go over there. I won the workout. I'm like,

571
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: all right, I guess we'll hang out for a little bit. Well,

572
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: then the next workout is yeah, that's right. The next

573
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Speaker 1: workout I think was forty thirty twenty ten wallballs, and

574
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: then I think it was twelve nine six three deadlifts

575
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: at two seventy five, and the wall balls were on

576
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: a soccer goal that had a two x fours on

577
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: each side and then I think like a two by

578
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: six or two by eight, and so people were just

579
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: missing left and right on this wallball target, you know,

580
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: the balls flying over, they're running and grabbing it. Luckily though,

581
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: we kind of used something like that for our wallball

582
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: target back at the barn, and so it was pretty

583
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: easy for me. And then the hard part was the

584
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: deadlifts were on a soccer field and it had rained,

585
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: and so by the time we had gone, you know,

586
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: our barbell was sunk so far into the grass or

587
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: into the dirt that I was literally picking the thing

588
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: up off of my shoelaces. I ended up getting second

589
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: on that workout by like I think I I might

590
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: have tied or like a second behind the guy that

591
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: won it. So me, me and him both got first

592
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: and second, so we were tied for first overall. And

593
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: then The next event was of five rounds of twenty

594
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: five pull ups and a four hundred meter run. I

595
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: got third or fourth on that workout, so I was

596
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: in first overall, and so we ended up staying. We

597
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: got a different hotel room, stated, a little bit nicer place.

598
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: And then the next day it was a handstand, push up,

599
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: squad snatch and box jump workout, and people could not

600
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: squat snatch to save their life. And that was for

601
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: some reason. It was ninety five pounds. That's for some reason,

602
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: that's always been an easy movement for me. And so

603
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: I ended up doing pretty well in that workout, won

604
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: that workout, and ended up winning that sanctional so or sectional, sorry,

605
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: not sanctional sanctionals, so that's current term. And so then

606
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: I went to regionals from there. In regionals it was

607
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, Florida.

608
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: Wow. And so in that first event, did you win

609
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: prize money?

610
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think maybe you got a medal. Yeah,

611
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: I have a medal. I think that's what I got.

612
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't think we got any money. From what I remember,

613
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't a lot. If I did.

614
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 2: So the first year that you started competing, was this

615
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: the first year that you kind of kept going with

616
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: CrossFit all the way up the chain.

617
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So from there I went to regionals, won

618
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: the region that year. Was completely surprised. That was kind

619
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: of my goal that year was to get to regionals,

620
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: learn a little bit, and then you know, I wanted

621
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: to make the Games in twenty eleven, and so I

622
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: get to regionals, and regionals becomes I when when the

623
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: region was kind of just like I said, blown away

624
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: because I'd, uh, you know, I've been watching a ton

625
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: of videos of these guys then at this point and

626
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: like you know, Brandon Phillips is now a friend of mine,

627
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,239
Speaker 1: Spencer Hendle, some of these other guys that were kind

628
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: of legends in the you know, in a short period

629
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: of time where legends in that area. I'd won and

630
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: Mike Mike g and so I was pretty pumped. And

631
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: so my whole plan at the Games was not to

632
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: get dead last and uh and so it was, you know,

633
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: it was a I was beyond floored and beyond fired

634
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: up to to be competing at the Games that year.

635
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: So you get to the Games and you kind of

636
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: do anything but come come into last.

637
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I did fall flat on my face while fat

638
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: on my ass and not on my face. But yeah,

639
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: I uh, you know, honestly, like I said, I was,

640
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: I was at no point in my life am I

641
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: ever okay with like just showing up and being there.

642
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: But you don't really have any high expectations for yourself

643
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 1: or really know what to expect coming into something like that.

644
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: You know, the Crosswait Games is the Crosswit Games. I've

645
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: been watching all these videos. All these guys were studs,

646
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: and you know, I'd done a lot of the workouts

647
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: or seen workouts and watched people do workouts on video

648
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: and try them, and you know, my times were comparable.

649
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: But it's always easier to do a workout after somebody

650
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: else has done it, especially when you know their time

651
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: and and so you just don't know what to expect.

652
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: And so I remember my first you know, real moment

653
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: at the Games was under the lights Friday night at

654
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: the stub Hub Center. It was the Home Depot Center

655
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: at the time. Was doing Amanda and it was nine

656
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: seven five muscle up and squad snatch, and so, like

657
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: I said, both those movements are pretty good for me.

658
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: I think I ended up getting third or fourth, but

659
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: I was in the second to last heat. So I

660
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: actually got to go up top and watch the final

661
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: heat go and just to watch, you know, the people

662
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: that I'd watched on YouTube or on CrossFit dot com

663
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: compete was It was a pretty surreal experience. It was

664
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: pretty special, and so that was kind of the last

665
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: like spectator moment I guess I had at the games,

666
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: and from then on it was just kind of battle battle.

667
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: Well, talk to me. Talk to me about for someone

668
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: who's never been to the Crossfair Games, and I have

669
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: been fortunate to come as a spectator of slew of

670
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: times now, but talk to me about what it's like

671
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: to be at the Crossway Games.

672
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, I guess I take it for granted now,

673
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: you know. I mean been there, what eleven ten years? Yeah,

674
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: last year was my tenth year. So for me, it's

675
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: literally just showing up for work. It's just, you know,

676
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of the way you have to approach it,

677
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: the way I look at it. So for me, it's

678
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a different experience. But yeah,

679
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: it's special. I mean, especially if I think back to

680
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: that first moment that I had, and any moment in

681
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: that tennis stadium at night, those were just really special moments.

682
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: You know, we've had a couple in the uh the

683
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: arena indoors at at Madison that that it's it's cool,

684
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: like it's it's really awesome. But there's just something about

685
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: there was something about that tennis stadium at night and

686
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: just just it's hard to hard to put in words.

687
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: It felt like you know, anybody who's played college or

688
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: high school sports that kind of Friday night lights feel

689
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: or you know, just a night game feel. It was.

690
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: It was really it was just fun. It was you know,

691
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: after it was over, it was fun. But like I said,

692
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: I I do kind of miss that that I it's

693
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: just almost expected, and you know, I'll definitely when I

694
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: decide to retire, I guess I'll hopefully i'll decide before

695
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm actually I get to compete and actually take some

696
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: of that in because I don't really I don't really

697
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: think about any of that stuff while I'm while I'm

698
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: doing it, you know, it's just it is what it is.

699
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: It's like I said, it's work, and it's it's a competition,

700
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: and you know, you get h pregame jitters like everybody

701
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: else does. You know, you get kind of that that

702
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: feeling of Man, why do I do that every time

703
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: we're about to step on the floor. It doesn't matter

704
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: if it's the Games, it doesn't matter if it's sectionals,

705
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what it is. You're like, man, why

706
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: do I do this? This feeling sucks? You know, I

707
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: hate that right before it starts, you know, the nerves

708
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: and the just jitters and the butterflies. But then it

709
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: also makes it also makes you come back for it

710
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: because that feeling after it's over, it's pretty special.

711
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: It's pretty special. Okay. So when you started CrossFit and

712
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: you you go on to win your first games, you

713
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: said you were still or just finishing college.

714
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: Right m hm.

715
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: At that point when you take home that first place spot,

716
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: what do you think that you're going to do? Do

717
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: you think to yourself, Man, I should just keep doing

718
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: this CrossFit thing all the time. Are you thinking about

719
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: you know, other careers and sticking with the firefighter thing?

720
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, so I uh so in ten when I

721
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: got second, I just I'll back up a little bit

722
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 1: before we get to that had this like I got

723
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: you know, I went to the games, just didn't want

724
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: to get last, end up getting second. Devastated, So the

725
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: worst feeling. Ever, should have been kind of excited about it,

726
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: hated it, couldn't find a good place. Luckily I had

727
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: some good friends kind of got me back on track.

728
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: To my face, faith has always been a huge part

729
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: of who I am, but they kind of brought that

730
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: back to the forefront and made me realize why I

731
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: was doing what I was doing.

732
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: Can I ask you really quick, do you think that

733
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: the hated it feeling would have been less? So if

734
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 2: it wasn't just second, if it was any other place

735
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: but second.

736
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: See, I don't know, I don't know, Like if I

737
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: would have I think the fact that I had tasted

738
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: and been first and kind of been in this place,

739
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: and maybe if I would have fallen to third, I

740
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I hate losing, you know, I

741
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: would have gotten like fifteenth or twentieth. I think that

742
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: would have been way different. But the fact that I was,

743
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: if I was so close to being up top, you know,

744
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: I lost by three places over the whole weekend. Oh man,

745
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: I was just in a horrible spot.

746
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: I also think it's pretty cool when you get to

747
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: go out and perform and you aren't fully aware of

748
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: your full potential, and in that moment, like you had

749
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: this opportunity to really embrace what it was that you

750
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: didn't even know me that you had insight.

751
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, and then to feel like a

752
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: complete failure. I don't know, it was. It was tough.

753
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: It was a tough pill to swallow. Just like I said,

754
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: it was that that final movement in that rope climb

755
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: and knowing I could do it and just not being

756
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: able to figure I was just I don't know, it

757
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: was just the whole everything, you know, the fact that

758
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: we were kind of corralled and kind of put in

759
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: this room for a couple hours and then pulled out

760
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, eight at a time or six at a time,

761
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: I remember what it was, and then people would not

762
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: come back. It's I don't know. It was just in

763
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: a bad spot. And like I said, some good friends

764
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: that kind of made me realize, hey, why are you

765
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: doing this? And so really put my faith into perspective

766
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: and gave me a reason for why I was doing it,

767
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: and that was to glorify God. And so twenty eleven

768
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: come back. You know, I had actually at that point

769
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: become a GA for the strength and conditioning coach at

770
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: Tennessee Tech and so that was kind of I'd stepped

771
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: away from the fire department thing. I was like, all right,

772
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get my master's and then probably I'm gonna

773
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: come back. But let's just see kind of where this

774
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: CrossFit thing goes. Be a strength coach, you know, get

775
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: some experience here. Maybe you know, maybe I'll stay here.

776
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: And so twenty eleven happens, win the CrossFit Games, come back,

777
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: still coaching, still doing that. Loved it.

778
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: You can't just like Breeze by that though. I win

779
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: the CrossFit Games and then I keep doing these things,

780
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: like talk to me about what that was truly like

781
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: for you, because talk about vindication from that awful feeling

782
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 2: you had here before.

783
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean definitely you put in the work and

784
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, you know now what you're kind of capable of.

785
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I had a lot of great people

786
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: around me to kind of help me and push me,

787
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: and so it was kind of a team effort. You know,

788
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: I had people that were better than me in certain

789
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: different things, and athletes that kind of pushed me in

790
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: different areas. You know, people that were stronger than me

791
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: would push me in strength, people that are better at

792
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: me and running or you know, conditioning type stuff would

793
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: push me there. And then you know, having having my wife,

794
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: having mentors, having people that were going to push me

795
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: in different areas and kind of support me was a

796
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: huge part of it. And so I felt good to

797
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: kind of you know, hey, this was a team effort.

798
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: This was a good thing. And like I said it,

799
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, I don't necessarily think that you know, my faith,

800
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm you know, there's this thing called prosperity

801
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: gospel and saying that you believe in God and believing

802
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: in Jesus that everything's going to happen and everything's going

803
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: to be good, and that I don't believe that whatsoever.

804
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: But I believe my faith freed me up and took

805
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: pressure off of you know, I wasn't worried about my

806
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: self worth and CrossFit, you know, before cross before i'd

807
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,959
Speaker 1: you know, gotten back on track with my faith. I'd

808
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: let CrossFit kind of become who I was and put

809
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: my all my self worth and my identity was in

810
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: who I was in CrossFit, and so put my faith

811
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: in Christ to help me to loosen up on that.

812
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: And so that for sure was a big part of

813
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: it and still is a big part of it. And

814
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: so fast forward past twenty eleven, uh strength coach, you know,

815
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: games playing as the games finished the degree, and then

816
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: I got started getting some sponsorships and so Reebok come up,

817
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: came on board, and I started working with them, started

818
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: working with an equipment company, started working with a supplement company.

819
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: Well was that all kind of surreal?

820
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very surreal. It was like, you know,

821
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: stuff that I had it was crazy. You know, I

822
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: don't really you know, the money was not crazy in

823
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: the beginning. You can't really survive on that. So you're

824
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: still I'm still you know, doing the strength strength thing,

825
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: and still you know, getting my masters at the time.

826
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: And then so I have this deal with a supplement company,

827
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: and so they're going to basically pay me three times

828
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: what I was making at the Strength and Conditioning Department

829
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: want the first year, and then four times the next year.

830
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: And so I'm like, heck, yeah, well the compliance NC

831
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: double A compliance officer at Tennessee Tech tells me that

832
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: basically I can't take the deal because the company makes

833
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: one supplement that isn't approved for NC double A athletes

834
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: and that it sends the wrong message to our athletes.

835
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: And he sits across the table from me and says,

836
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: back in his day, he did it the old fashioned

837
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: way with hard work, and so that I felt like

838
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: was my sign that I needed to leave. And so

839
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: so I actually left the strength and Conditioning department at

840
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: that time and then just started training in my garage.

841
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: I actually built a garage at the house, and you know,

842
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: I still coached CrossFit Cookbill at the affiliate at the

843
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: Strength and Conditioning Center, and then that fall, after I'd

844
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: won the games the second time, we actually opened Crossbit.

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871
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872
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,600
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873
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874
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875
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876
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,239
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877
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,160
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878
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,520
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879
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: And it was, you know, just trying to leverage that stuff.

880
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: And then you know, down the road, I started getting

881
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: some help with some from some different people, and I've

882
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, I've had different people along the way that

883
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: have helped. And now we actually have brought Rory mckernanon

884
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: to kind of help us with because with Mayhem, we

885
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: have so many different things coming in and we needed

886
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 1: somebody to kind of, you know, leverage those relationships and

887
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: make sure that we're you know, everything is all being

888
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: funneled into one area because it's we got a lot

889
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: of we got a lot of strings coming in on

890
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: different ways and getting tied up, and a lot of

891
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: irons in the fire around here, a.

892
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: Lot of irons in the fire. Okay. So now at

893
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 2: this point, you've run won the Games a couple of times,

894
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: m h. And you're I mean, you're in the prime

895
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: of your career. There's no stopping you.

896
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: It seems like, yeah, I mean thirteen and you know,

897
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: thirteen was a really twelve thirteen were really good years.

898
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: Fourteen was a great year. But I'd kind of trying

899
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: to I don't know, It's just it'll wear on you

900
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: a little bit, being you know, every day in and

901
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: day out, and and knowing, you know, we had some

902
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 1: some fertility things going on with me and Hillary and

903
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: and that just all of it all together, I guess.

904
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: And then when we decided we were going to adopt

905
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: and we got matched with Lakeland, and I was just like,

906
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: you know what, I've had enough of competing as an

907
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: individual and knowing the time that it takes and the

908
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: sacrifice of being an individual. It's I can't do that

909
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: and be a dad and I want to be you know,

910
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: my kids are the most important thing to me. Trying

911
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: to win the games. As an individual, being the best

912
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: in the world at anything, you've got to be obsessive,

913
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: and you've got to be selfish. And I wasn't willing

914
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: to do that anymore. You know, I'd let some personal

915
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: relationships kind of either fall by the wayside or I

916
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: was very selfish in those relationships when I was an individual.

917
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: But you kind of have to do that, like I,

918
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, you hate that it had to happen, or

919
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: it happened that way, but you know, to do that,

920
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: it had to happen. And so I knew, knew what

921
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: kind of person I was when I was competing as

922
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: an individual, and I didn't want to do that to

923
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: my kids. And so that was when I kind of decided, Hey,

924
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: let's let's just see what the team side of things

925
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: looks like. And I can still compete, still scratch that itch,

926
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, still you know, fulfill some sponsorship obligations and

927
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: have some partnerships in that way, but I can be

928
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: a dad and I won't be at like when I'm

929
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: When I was an individual, even when I wasn't competing

930
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: or wasn't training, I was thinking about what somebody else

931
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: was doing or what I needed to be doing, or

932
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: you know, I'd walk out to the barn or the

933
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: garage at you know, nine or ten o'clock because I

934
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: felt like I hadn't done enough that day. And I

935
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: can't do that now, and I don't want to do

936
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: that now. You know, I have I have the kids,

937
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: and seven eight o'clock is about as late as I

938
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: want to be doing anything. But now that's you know,

939
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 1: that's kind of our crazy time. That's when the kids

940
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: are are, you know, fired up, and they're ready to go,

941
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: and we're trying to put them down for bed, and

942
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: I can't miss that, and I didn't want to miss that.

943
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: There's a couple of things to unpacked there. First of all,

944
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: so that we're in twenty fourteen, now, yep, and you

945
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: mentioned you guys were having some fertility struggles, and I

946
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: know you adopted Lakelan in twenty fourteen.

947
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: So the final year, yep, yep. I decided that fourteen

948
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: was the last year we were we were going to

949
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: push hard on the adoption thing, and we wanted to

950
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: make sure that it was going to happen. And so

951
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: we got matched actually a month before the final my

952
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 1: final games. We got Lakeland two weeks before my final games,

953
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: and then it was final the week of the games.

954
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: And this always gives me the chills because I remember

955
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: Hilary talking to me about how this all works. I

956
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: had no idea. So I'd love, actually, if you wouldn't

957
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: mind just to talk me through the getting matched and

958
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 2: then getting her, because those are such two really special moments.

959
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, all three of our situations where our kids

960
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: are kind of crazy, but with Lakeland. Somebody knew of

961
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: a friend of a friend of a friend knew that

962
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: they were This girl was giving her a little girl

963
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: up for adoption. She had gone to the Cookville Pregnancy

964
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: Center here in town and had kind of just had

965
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: a different plan for the bait for Lakeland, and they

966
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: they changed her mind. It's a Christian organization and she

967
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: ended up getting an ultrasound and realizing that, hey, you know,

968
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to don't want to terminate the baby.

969
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: And so she had actually been had found a match

970
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: for Lakeland, and Hillary reached out to this girl and

971
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: the girl was like, hey, it's kind of crazy, but

972
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: the family that I had picked actually backed out this morning.

973
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: So let me kind of process this and I'll get

974
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: back to you. So, long story short, she met up

975
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: with Hillary, loved Hillary, and then asked to meet me.

976
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: We met and then picked us. And so that was

977
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: one month before the game. So we had to get

978
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: this whole thing of like a home study, which is

979
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: our background check. Our house has to be checked. We

980
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: have to do all kinds of different things to make

981
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: sure our house is you know, acceptable for having a baby.

982
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: And so this is all while trying to get ready

983
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: for my final cross at Games as an individual. Yeah,

984
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: so basically a month before all that happened, and then

985
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: we got Lakeland was born on July seventh, CrossFit Games.

986
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: My birthday is July twenty first, which is the Monday

987
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: of the Games, and the game starts on that Wednesday.

988
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: And so with Lakeland, she was born, and then we

989
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: had to wait basically fourteen days with Lakeland, and the

990
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: mom had the right to revoke parental rights from us

991
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: for fourteen days. So it was to say it was

992
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: it was tough. Couple of days is an understatement, and

993
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: it was Now it's awesome, you know, like Lakeland is special.

994
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: She's an amazing little girl. Wouldn't change anything for the world,

995
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: but it was super stressful.

996
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine like developing that bond with this small,

997
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: small child and then wondering and sitting there and just

998
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: waiting and hoping that like nothing messes with that.

999
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was. You know, we've now

1000
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: been through that experience a couple of times, and luckily

1001
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: the state of Tennessee has kind of changed the laws

1002
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: and so it's a little bit quicker now, but man,

1003
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: it's still it's it's hard. And then you know, we

1004
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: had a couple fast forward a little bit, but we

1005
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: had a couple adoptions. Lakeland's was not easy by any means,

1006
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: but it was it was quick, you know, everything happened

1007
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: within a month. And then we had a couple two

1008
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: or three that where the adoption fell through and kind

1009
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: of at the last minute. And so watching Hillary go

1010
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: through that, I couldn't do it for me. You know,

1011
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: it's I'm not really super attached to a baby until

1012
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: here she is ours and Hillary, I feel like, as

1013
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: soon as she gets word that it's you know, we're

1014
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: we're placed, or a baby is going to be placed,

1015
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: then she's attached without even seeing the baby. And so

1016
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: watching her go through that devastation a couple of times,

1017
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I'm done. I'm completely content

1018
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: with Lakelan. Let's not do this anymore. And so she

1019
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: comes up to me one night and she's like, all right,

1020
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna sign this paperwork. I'm sending it to this

1021
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, lawyer that she had found that was placing babies.

1022
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: I was like, absolutely not not watching him do this.

1023
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: She's like, you're gonna do this or I'm gonna you know,

1024
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: you know, and so I'm like, yes, ma'am one I signed,

1025
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: this is it, And so she overnights this paperwork to Florida.

1026
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: And then the next day we hear that we're one

1027
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: of twenty families for Trice. I'll go ahead and spoil that.

1028
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: And that afternoon we hear we're one of five and

1029
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: that we would find out probably in the morning who

1030
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: was going to be picked. Well, then at ten o'clock

1031
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: at night, we get a call and the lawyer says,

1032
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: how soon can you get to Florida. We're like, well,

1033
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: we'll be there in the morning. And so that was

1034
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, right before regionals, at literally a month before

1035
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: Regionals that we drove to Florida. Trice was in the

1036
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: nick u because he was super small. Hillary stayed down

1037
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: there for two weeks with Trice while I had came

1038
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: home kind of continued training, kind of got Lakeland back

1039
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: to normal, and then she came home with Trice. And

1040
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: so Trice is actually Richard the Third, but we call

1041
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 1: him Trice. And then Violin was twenty eighteen during the open.

1042
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: So there's kind of a theme here. You got the

1043
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: games with Lakeland, you got the regionals, which we don't

1044
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: have regionals anymore with Trice and then you have to

1045
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: open and so Lakeland or Violet. Hillary stays in contact

1046
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: with Lakeland's birth mom, and she got a call one

1047
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: day and said got a text, I think it was

1048
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: a text, and said, hey, I had another baby and

1049
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: can't keep her. Would you guys take her? And we

1050
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: were like, heck, yeah, we will, and so we flew

1051
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: the floor. And you know the kind of the funny

1052
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: thing is it's like, yeah, of course. Hillary's like and

1053
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: Trice was ten months old at the time, and She's like,

1054
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: can we do this? And I was like, we have to.

1055
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: And then a couple of days later, I'm like, can

1056
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: we do this? And She's like, we have to. And

1057
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: so I couldn't imagine life without Violet. But Violet having

1058
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: two ten months apart is is work. It's it's awesome,

1059
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: but they're super close and there's so much fun, but

1060
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: it is work. And then Violet was super Our first

1061
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: two babies were easy babies, slept great, eight great. Violet

1062
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: for the first price three or four months of her

1063
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: life's I think she cried for sixteen hours a day,

1064
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: oh man. But it's it's crazy. Now she's probably our

1065
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: easiest one and then the other two are are lakelands.

1066
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: She's full of sass.

1067
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 2: I was gonna say energy.

1068
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: She's a ball energy, and she's she's sixteen in a

1069
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: five year old body, and she is just like Hillary.

1070
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: So she's she's full of sass. But then Trice is

1071
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: just a disaster. And then you have quiet Violet. But

1072
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: we call her the Silent Assassin though, because you'll just

1073
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: kind of you won't be you won't see her, and

1074
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: she has this real sweet, loving voice, but then she'll

1075
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: she'll lay into you if you don't if you don't

1076
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: answer her in the first like two or three, like

1077
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: she's like dad, Dad, and then all of a sudden,

1078
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: it's the highest pitch scream you've ever heard, Dad, Man

1079
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: and son.

1080
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 2: So number one job is dad and number two job

1081
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: is being a CrossFit athlete.

1082
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Yeah, So the last couple of

1083
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: years has been uh, but it's just great. You know,

1084
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: like they get to you know, they come out to

1085
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: the barn if they want to and hang out with

1086
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: us and train with us or do whatever they want

1087
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: to do, run around, be crazy, or they can come

1088
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 1: to the gym. You know, a lot of that we've

1089
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: been doing these zoom workouts and stuff like that during

1090
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: quarantine or these quarantine workouts at the gym, and uh,

1091
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: they've you know, they've been with us every day and

1092
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: it's been so much fun having them around. And you know,

1093
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: they the things that they pick up on that you

1094
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: don't even realize is scary, you know, Like, you know,

1095
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: I've never once told any of them to work out,

1096
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: but you know, yesterday, I'm down in the basement. Sunday's

1097
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: kind of our easier day, and I'll go down and

1098
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: run or ride a bike or something here, just kind

1099
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: of cardio, low, low intensity and just watching, you know,

1100
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: Trice put on a hips hip haylo or hip circle

1101
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: and trying to do hip stuff, or they'll start doing

1102
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: some burpies or it's just it's just cool to see

1103
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: those things that you don't It's also very scary because

1104
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: then you're like, man, what else are they picking on?

1105
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: Picking up on that I do that you know, I

1106
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: don't want them to pick up on.

1107
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: So make sure they're not lifting anything too heavy right off?

1108
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right now. I mean, they'll lake Leno. She's

1109
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: got this little kids bar that is I think five

1110
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 1: pounds and she'll load it up and do some clean

1111
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: and drink. Yesterday or a couple of days ago, she's

1112
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: she'd never done it before. She just throws it on

1113
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: her shoulders and starts front squat and doing thrusters. I

1114
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: was like, what the heck? How did you like? Perfect

1115
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: form elbows up, you know, pertinees out on the squad,

1116
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: but touching the ground, you're just like hotly crap. So

1117
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: it's all, but it's very it's scary.

1118
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: What do you want your kids to learn from you

1119
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 2: when it comes to the work ethic that you've put

1120
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 2: into this sport over the past ten plus years.

1121
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just you know, hard work and

1122
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: that I was willing, I guess to put in the work.

1123
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't necessarily, you know, I don't want them.

1124
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: They don't have to do cross but they don't have

1125
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: to compete, they don't have to do anything like that.

1126
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: But I do want them to do something physically active.

1127
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: I do want them to do, you know, play some

1128
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: type of sport or you know, do something they have to.

1129
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: I've learned so much through competing, either on a team

1130
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: or by myself. You know, I grew up in team sports.

1131
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: And so the four or five years that I competed

1132
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: as individual, I learned a ton as well. But man,

1133
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: I'd rather be on a team any day. I definitely

1134
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: learned that in the four years that I competed as

1135
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: an individual. There's just something you can't replace about, you know,

1136
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: being on a team, or you learned so much being

1137
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: on a team and working with people in those ways.

1138
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope they have that same kind of

1139
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 1: want or drive, but yeah, I definitely I just want

1140
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: them to to be into some type of physical, you know, activity,

1141
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: I guess.

1142
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: And anversely, I mean you talked about that really great

1143
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: feeling you get when the workout is done, but how

1144
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 2: much it sucks when you're going through it. When you

1145
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 2: think about the lessons that you've learned doing CrossFit, what

1146
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: what is this journey really taught you?

1147
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think the only time you really grow is

1148
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: in adversity. You know, when you're when you're comfortable, when

1149
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 1: you're everything's going good or everything is easy, you don't

1150
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: really grow. And that's physically, that's that's mentally and spiritually

1151
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: that you know, you kind of you need some type

1152
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: of adversity in your life, you know it doesn't necessarily

1153
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: have to be you know, you're always looking for a

1154
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: problem per se. But with Crossbit, you know, there's some

1155
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: adversity in workouts. You know, there's always something that you

1156
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: need to work on. There's always something that, Yeah, there's

1157
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: always something you need to work on. There's always something

1158
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: that if you get better at something, something else is

1159
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: gonna maybe slide by the wayside. So, uh, that's kind

1160
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: of the beauty of what we do and I think

1161
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: what makes it so much fun, And that's just something

1162
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: we've you know, I've got a lot of projects going on.

1163
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: But something with uh, you know, our Throning Farms thing

1164
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: with the bison is into the storm. It's kind of

1165
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: a it started out as kind of just a cool thing,

1166
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: but really it's kind of a mentality of for us.

1167
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: You know, with bison, they out west when there's a

1168
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 1: storm coming, they run at the storm instead of running

1169
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: away from a storm, where you know, the storm's always

1170
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: going to catch you, and so you know, if you're

1171
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 1: running with it, it's going to stay over you longer.

1172
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: But if you run through it, you're going to go

1173
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: through it faster. And so you know, there's some adversity

1174
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: in it. And it might be nasty, but if you

1175
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: turn and face it most of the time, you're going

1176
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: to get through it faster than if you were to

1177
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: kind of let it catch up with you.

1178
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: And you talked about the sponsorships as a young athlete,

1179
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: those have taken an entire different shape now that you've

1180
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: had the opportunity to grow different relationships and build different partnerships.

1181
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: And I mean at this point, you're even at the

1182
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: stage where you're making your own sneakers.

1183
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've done. Rebuk's been a cool partner,

1184
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: Rogue has always been a great partner. Advocare those are

1185
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: kind of my longer ones that I've worked with. It's

1186
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: just been cool to kind of grow with them in

1187
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: the space to be honest, you know, with with like

1188
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: you said, with Reebok and having a shoe and working

1189
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: with tal over the last couple of years on making

1190
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: that shoe right and doing some cool things. You know,

1191
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: some things I never thought I would I would ever do.

1192
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: But you know, it just for me, with partnerships, it

1193
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: just they have to make sense, they have to fit.

1194
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: I can't. I try to make everything as authentic to

1195
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: who I am as possible. I don't want to like,

1196
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm not going to push something on somebody that I

1197
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: don't actually use or actually don't believe in. And so

1198
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: for me, that's those are the things, you know, like

1199
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: if Rebut makes a shoe, I want to shoot that

1200
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: I can actually believe in. And it's what's really cool

1201
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: about what they've done over the years is they've taken

1202
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: our input as athletes and put it into the shoe

1203
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: and made a really cool you know, the Nano X

1204
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: just came out and it's it's my favorite Nano by

1205
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: farce so far. And so every year just gets better.

1206
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: You know, We've had a couple hiccups and some of

1207
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: the stuff that we always joke about with tal, but

1208
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: it always comes back on a on a better and

1209
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: higher note.

1210
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy to think about that you have,

1211
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: like you you in this sport, you're so you're held

1212
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 2: with such a steam that you have an opportunity to

1213
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: help create something that literally is delivered to millions of consumers.

1214
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: But that's something that you know, we've wanted over the years,

1215
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: is that I don't want to push something that I

1216
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: don't believe in. So they've done a good job over

1217
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: the years of getting it to us ahead of time,

1218
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: or taking our input from previous shoes and doing things

1219
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: like that. So it's really cool because I mean with CrossFit,

1220
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: there's such high demand on a shoe, you know, like

1221
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: there's so many I don't want to have to wear

1222
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: four or five different pairs of shoes. I do have

1223
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: two pairs of shoes. I wear a running shoe and

1224
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: an actual just CrossFit shoe, And so you know, there's

1225
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: so many different demands that are put on the thing

1226
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: that you have to It has to be a good shoe.

1227
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: It has to be something that you feel comfortable in in,

1228
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: something that you can use.

1229
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 2: I love what you said before about walking out into

1230
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 2: the tennis stadium and you're like, I'm just here showing

1231
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: up for work. If you had to think about aside

1232
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: from being a firefighter out of the equation, if you

1233
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: had to think about something else you could do, or

1234
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: you just show up for work and it felt that good,

1235
00:59:58,600 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: what would it be?

1236
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: Man? I competitive? The competitiveness, the competitiveness in me. I still,

1237
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, I do miss baseball. I do miss other sports.

1238
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: You know, I play some recreational sports. Still. We play

1239
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: in a flag football league. Yeah, So I mean if

1240
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: if if it was my dream, you know, i'd definitely

1241
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: be a baseball or football or something like that.

1242
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine showing up to like a flag

1243
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 2: football game and I walk on the field and it's

1244
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: like Rich Frowning and his.

1245
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: Friends that we have a good time. We you know,

1246
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: it's a group of guys that I played college, Uh

1247
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: played in a real college flag football with. We went

1248
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: to some like state regional and then the national tournament

1249
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and so, uh, we have we

1250
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: have a good time. But it's just a bunch of

1251
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: like we look maybe not look the most athletics. Some

1252
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: of the guys, uh they a lot of them don't

1253
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: do CrossFit. But that's what's kind of fun about is

1254
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: they don't, you know, they're just kind of unassuming guys.

1255
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: But we've played together a long time and so uh

1256
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: we we're not We're not terrible, not terrible.

1257
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 2: You also, before you know, you shared your disappointment with

1258
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 2: that first year, coming in second and then coming in

1259
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 2: first time after time after time, And I think there's

1260
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 2: two mindsets to how to approach those kind of situations.

1261
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 2: You either don't imagine what it could be like if

1262
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 2: you don't come in first, or you do think about

1263
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: like how you would handle that potential disappointment. What side

1264
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: of the fence do you you fall on?

1265
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't. You can't. Definitely, I wouldn't

1266
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: change anything, If that makes sense, I wouldn't. You know,

1267
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: obviously I wish I would have won the first year,

1268
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: but losing I think set me up for the next.

1269
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: However many years we are at now, nine nine years

1270
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: we're at after that. You know there is a one

1271
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: second place on a team that we don't really talk

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Speaker 1: about much. But yeah, you can't. You can't look at

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Speaker 1: definitely don't want to look at it as you know,

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Speaker 1: what if I get second, you just got to kind

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Speaker 1: of go at it like I'm gonna win and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give it all I've gotten. We're here, we're here

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Speaker 1: to Like I said, it's we're here to work, and

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Speaker 1: we're here. We've put in the work and we're going

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Speaker 1: to do the best that we can. But now the

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Speaker 1: whole mentality, I would be lying if I said I

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Speaker 1: would be okay. If I knew we put in, we went,

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Speaker 1: we worked as hard as we could and got second,

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Speaker 1: I still wouldn't be okay with it. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: It's just not my mentality. Like I I hate losing

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Speaker 1: no matter what it is. It doesn't you know, like

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Speaker 1: I'm I do enjoy winning, but I hate losing more.

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Speaker 2: How how long do you think you're going to be doing.

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Speaker 1: This, Rich, I don't know, you know, like I still

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. I still feel like I'm adding something to

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Speaker 1: the team and I'm not holding people back. As soon

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Speaker 1: as I start to feel like I'm holding people back

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Speaker 1: or not a valuable asset to the team, that's when

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Speaker 1: I'll step up. Or if I'm you know, feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm injured all the time. You know, with with any

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Speaker 1: professional sport, you know, injuries are part of it, and

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Speaker 1: you know, managing those injuries and just being smart and older.

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Speaker 1: I get, you know, recovery and stuff like that as

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Speaker 1: as needs to take a precedent. But I feel good

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Speaker 1: right now, and so I want to keep competing as

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Speaker 1: long as I feel like or other people feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm still adding and not taking away.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing on the regular in terms of recovery, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Man, I try to sleep as much as I can.

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Speaker 1: It's very tough, especially with small ones. Nutrition is a

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Speaker 1: big piece of it work with our peace strength. So

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Speaker 1: I make sure that I eat enough. Been doing intermittent

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Speaker 1: fasting for the last couple of years. I really like

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Speaker 1: it keeps inflammation down. I feel like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: do take some Advocare supplements, mainly protein and some like

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Speaker 1: healthy greens and reds. I try to, you know, every

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Speaker 1: once in a while, I go to a do o

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Speaker 1: on the regular deo and chiropractor just to try to

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Speaker 1: stay ahead of injuries instead of let stuff ball up

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Speaker 1: and to where it takes over. So there's that. And

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Speaker 1: then I use a thera gun I don't really like

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Speaker 1: to roll out as much. And then we got introduced

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Speaker 1: at their gun this year at the Classic, and I

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Speaker 1: actually don't pay right now anyway, So but I really

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Speaker 1: actually like that they're a gun. Trying to think if

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Speaker 1: there's anything else crazy that I do. Acupuncture through the

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Speaker 1: doo just helps move some inflammation has been good. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: those are the main thing. Sleep is. If I notice,

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Speaker 1: if I don't sleep, I get just kind of one

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Speaker 1: I'm not pleasant to be around, and then two I

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Speaker 1: feel like injuries kind of pile up when I don't sleep.

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Speaker 2: What kind of amount of sleep are we talking?

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Speaker 1: Here, I've got to get eight hours. If I don't

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Speaker 1: get eight hours, and it's kind of tough this time

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Speaker 1: of year, like I said, with the kids, and then

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Speaker 1: it is turkey hunting season, so I try to get

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Speaker 1: up a little earlier, and so I've gone a couple

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Speaker 1: of times. That's one of my one of my go

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Speaker 1: tos in the spring, and I haven't been able to

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Speaker 1: do the last couple of years because the kids have

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Speaker 1: been so small, and this year I'm back at it

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Speaker 1: and I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love that turkey huntings even Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Best piece of advice that you have been offered in

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Speaker 2: your career so far as a crossfait athlete.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, there's too many to list. My go to

1342
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: to cross fitters in general is to have fun. Everybody

1343
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: wants to make working out and make fitness like this

1344
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: added stress, Like I got to get better, I got

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01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: to do this, and it's like, just have fun, that's

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Speaker 1: what you know. It's supposed to be a stress relief,

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Speaker 1: not an added stress. And so many people get so

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01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: caught up in all these different things, and I want

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Speaker 1: people to have fun and enjoy working out, not make

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Speaker 1: it something that you dread.

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Speaker 2: When people come to your social media page. I think

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Speaker 2: you have like one point four million Instagram followers if

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Speaker 2: I'm quoting that right now. People come to your social

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Speaker 2: media page, I mean, they see this guy that's super fit,

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Speaker 2: they see a loving dad, they see someone who has

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Speaker 2: certainly made a name for himself as arguably one of

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Speaker 2: the best athletes I would say of all time. When

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Speaker 2: you look in the mirror, you're welcome. What is it

1359
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Speaker 2: that you see looking back at.

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Speaker 1: You see an old man? No, I just just a

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01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,959
Speaker 1: normal person, you know. I what's crazy to me about

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Speaker 1: the whole thing is, you know, I just work out.

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Speaker 1: I you know, it's I do something people that are

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01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: better than me at a lot of things, and you know,

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01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: there's people that are probably the best in the world

1366
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: that you know, whatever it is, computer programming or whatever.

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01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: But I just happened to found something that people enjoyed

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01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,919
Speaker 1: watching and hit it kind of at the right time,

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Speaker 1: I guess. And so I just work out, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty similar to probably most people out there watching

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01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: who like to work out and you know, are competitive.

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Speaker 1: I just, like I said, I found something that that

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Speaker 1: I was the right place, right time, kind of the

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01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: perfect storm of everything. So that's I guess what I

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Speaker 1: see in the.

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Speaker 2: Mirror, aside from turkey hunting, what excites you right now?

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Speaker 1: Right now, we we just the last couple of months

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01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,959
Speaker 1: have started a bison farm, and I'm pretty passionate about

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01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: that right now. There. You know, at first, it was

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01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: like kind of this deal where we were going to

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Speaker 1: get some cattle, and it was mainly for the kids

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01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: to have some type of chore. And you know, my

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Speaker 1: my best friend growing up, my neighbor as well. We

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01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, he's got a little girl, and we were like,

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01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: let's you know, let's just he has a cattle background,

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01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,959
Speaker 1: so like, let's let's do that. And then we looked

1387
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: into bison and they're just so awesome, and then researching

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01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: them more and more into how resilient they are, and

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01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, basically we're killed down from you know, thirty

1390
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: or forty million into the less than a thousand and

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01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: then have kind of made this resurgence and just how

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Speaker 1: cool and majestic. And I don't know that's right now

1393
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm geeked out on I've read a bunch of books

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01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: on buffalo or bison, whichever term you want to use,

1395
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: but uh, they're just a really cool animal. So right

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Speaker 1: now that besides my kids and turkey hunting season and

1397
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: the games, that's my well, if there is a games

1398
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: this year with coronavirus, that's kind of where we're at

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Speaker 1: right now on the farm.

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Speaker 2: You think it's going to happen, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I it's supposed to be back at the ranch. You know,

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01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be tough. I mean with all the

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01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: travel bands, especially for you know, international like if we

1404
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: if you don't have international athletes there, then you can't

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01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: call it the fittest on Earth. Yeah, I don't know.

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01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: It's just it's tough. You know, it's a tough situation.

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01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: Like you want it to be there because you want

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01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: people to have something to look forward to, but you

1409
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: also want to be safe, you want to be smart,

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01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: and you know, with all the things going on, it's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if it's worth it.

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01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't know it's I'm glad I don't have to

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01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: make that decision. I just wish that decision would be

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Speaker 1: made pretty soon. You know. It's like it's first world

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01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: problems really, I mean, I just don't know what we're

1416
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: training for. Am I training for the Games in twenty

1417
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: twenty or am I training for twenty twenty one?

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Speaker 2: So right now you have an opportunity to offer yourself

1419
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: a piece of advice. Maybe it's right before your cousin

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01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 2: moved down, you guys are going through some hard family stuff,

1421
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 2: or perhaps in your build up to that final year

1422
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 2: of the Games, when you and your wife are going

1423
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: through some of those fertility struggles, right before that adoption,

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01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 2: you have an opportunity to offer yourself one good piece

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01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 2: of advice looking back on those hurdle moments. Now, what

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Speaker 2: do you tell yourself?

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be all right? You'd hate to go back.

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01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, I don't want to

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01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: say there's things that I don't regret doing, but there's

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Speaker 1: nothing that I would change, if that makes sense, because

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01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be where I'm at now and pretty in

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01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: a pretty awesome place right now. So yeah, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be all right.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be all right, Rich, Thanks so much for your time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

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