Speaker 1: Hey, folks, this is an extra little episode this week
Speaker 1: where I chat with the rising indie pop star Alden.
Speaker 1: If you enjoyed our conversation and you want to check
Speaker 1: out more of Alden's music, I've put his links in
Speaker 1: the episode description and without further ado, let's get into it. Alden,
Speaker 1: how's it going. What's been the most persistent thought on
Speaker 1: your mind lately?
Speaker 2: Most persistent thought? Mama, honestly, what happens when I die?
Speaker 1: Are you serious?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Really? Yeah, That's what I just want to talk about
Speaker 1: on here all the time. I talk about it on
Speaker 1: here so much that people are starting to get really
Speaker 1: annoyed really with me? Yeah, are you being serious? Do
Speaker 1: you think of that?
Speaker 2: I do think about that a lot.
Speaker 1: Tell me how that thought was going for you?
Speaker 2: I think about it like I really hope that I
Speaker 2: like restart, I get to restart and play the game
Speaker 2: again in the same life.
Speaker 1: In the same light.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So does that mean that you are yourself again?
Speaker 2: I'm still all there?
Speaker 1: And are you playing out deterministically all the same exact
Speaker 1: events of life again? So you're born as you're born
Speaker 1: to the same parents and the same location, Yet.
Speaker 2: My choices are like you know, I make a small
Speaker 2: little choice right here and changes my whole trajectory.
Speaker 1: I like this because this is a very I got.
Speaker 1: I get lost in like deterministic philosophy, a lot of
Speaker 1: like where you are and who you're born to and
Speaker 1: everything that like influences your choices. I like this idea
Speaker 1: that you have so much free will that you would
Speaker 1: go back and you could even make different choices.
Speaker 2: I also kind of like I like the idea of like,
Speaker 2: you know, you go through that cycle. I don't remember
Speaker 2: what religion kind of you know this like practices this
Speaker 2: or like talks about this, but you go through the
Speaker 2: cycle until you are ready to ascend to a higher level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, what do you think is necessary to ascend?
Speaker 2: I feel like it's just like inner peace, like just
Speaker 2: being content with life.
Speaker 1: Do you have in mind alternative choices you would make
Speaker 1: if you were reborn to be Alden again? M hmmm.
Speaker 2: I would still I would always make music. I think
Speaker 2: in every lifetime I would make music because it's just
Speaker 2: like I was attracted to it from such a young age.
Speaker 2: My older brother got me into it and I just
Speaker 2: like stuck with it from since I was like eleven
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 1: So, so what you would want to happen is that
Speaker 1: you become you relive the same life as yourself. What
Speaker 1: do you think happens?
Speaker 2: But I would think.
Speaker 1: Is nothing.
Speaker 2: No, I would want it, like you know, I would
Speaker 2: want to like mess around and like take some different
Speaker 2: steps in my life, you know, like, Okay, see what
Speaker 2: happens if I moved to because like I moved to
Speaker 2: New York first, right, yeah, and then I moved to LA.
Speaker 2: But what if I moved to LA first and then
Speaker 2: New York?
Speaker 1: Really, so that's it. You wouldn't be like I mean
Speaker 1: those you wouldn't be like, let me move to Ghana
Speaker 1: or something. You wouldn't like do do something totally out
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 2: It could have been like even like you know, maybe
Speaker 2: like I like my other life is like a granola guy,
Speaker 2: like and I got like a like a van. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know driving around the United States just in
Speaker 2: the van. I could see myself doing that too, you know.
Speaker 2: I feel like I could see a lot of different paths.
Speaker 2: I want to farm.
Speaker 1: You know, do you want to farm?
Speaker 2: I do want to farm.
Speaker 1: I feel like, what do you have on your farm?
Speaker 2: Definitely horses and cows. I'm not a big fan of chickens,
Speaker 2: just because they're shaped at like a little strange to me.
Speaker 2: I don't like the feet of a chicken, unfortunately, but
Speaker 2: I like eggs, so maybe I'll have chickens.
Speaker 1: Would you, uh, would you not get bored on a far?
Speaker 1: I mean, you're a you're you're you're touring right, you're
Speaker 1: rocking and rolling, you're hanging out with people, You're in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: your Hollywood life, whatever are you? You wouldn't get bored
Speaker 1: on a farm?
Speaker 2: No? Because the thing is, I do not go out.
Speaker 2: I don't do anything really. I just like I'm in
Speaker 2: the studio every day and I'm playing Fortnite at playing
Speaker 2: video games every day.
Speaker 1: Are you homebody?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Have you always been a homebody? Or did you have
Speaker 1: a time?
Speaker 2: I had a time? Okay, I had a time. I
Speaker 2: went to Uh, I went to the school and uh
Speaker 2: Southern Virginia and Richmond Virginia VCU and uh that was
Speaker 2: like my time to like go out and be like
Speaker 2: twenty one year old.
Speaker 1: What was the place school? What was it called?
Speaker 2: Commonwealthy University?
Speaker 1: Is that like known to be a party school?
Speaker 2: Not necessarily, but it's more more so known to be
Speaker 2: like an artsy school. Okay, so there's a lot of
Speaker 2: really cool types of people, So it's really fun to
Speaker 2: go out there to like the bars and stuff. Because
Speaker 2: I was just telling you about the Guar Bar. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's all gar themed. It's insane.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was that popular with college kids.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean it was just a cool bar.
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of college kids knew about Guar,
Speaker 2: but they the bar itself just looked sick. They had
Speaker 2: like these like Halloween costumes everywhere. Pretty sure it's still there.
Speaker 2: If anybody's in Richmond, go to the gar Bar.
Speaker 1: So do you remember was there a specific night out
Speaker 1: where you were like, this is gonna be the finale
Speaker 1: of my career or was it just a natural I
Speaker 1: don't really want to do this.
Speaker 2: Anymore finalely my career of going out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Mmmm, that's a good question, because I was going out
Speaker 2: a little bit when I first moved to New York.
Speaker 2: I was having fun, but it just became kind of
Speaker 2: like repetitive. And then I became a homebody in New
Speaker 2: York in a little box. Yeah, and it was like
Speaker 2: really depressing and I couldn't handle the winter anymore, Like
Speaker 2: the winter in New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but the way the winter's good because it
Speaker 1: puts markings upon your life.
Speaker 2: That is very true. That's like something I've noticed about
Speaker 2: living in LA is like, you know, having the sun
Speaker 2: every day can kind of get exhausting. Yeah, especially coming
Speaker 2: from the East Coast. I'm used to all four seasons,
Speaker 2: so I missed the season sometimes. But right now, I
Speaker 2: mean I've been in la for yeah, a year and
Speaker 2: a half, and I'm not like sick of it.
Speaker 1: Are you thinking you'll stay there, like long term?
Speaker 2: I'm definitely not long term. I think I think I'm
Speaker 2: gonna I want to buy a house in Virginia.
Speaker 1: Okay, then that's where you're from, right, Yeah, that's where
Speaker 1: I'm from. Would you buy one near your parents?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably somewhere in the vicinity of my parents school.
Speaker 1: Are you still like friends with the homies from high school?
Speaker 1: Middle school? Yeah?
Speaker 2: They all they're all down in Richmond, like we all
Speaker 2: kind of uh. We all graduated from the same high school,
Speaker 2: all went to the same college. It was a blast.
Speaker 2: We were all on the same dorm floor.
Speaker 1: Are they excited by your your musical career or do
Speaker 1: they just know you as like you're just alt them.
Speaker 2: They I mean, when I'm with them, you know, it's
Speaker 2: it's it's like, you know, nothing, no time has passed.
Speaker 2: Because I don't see them very often. I miss them
Speaker 2: all the time, but when I see them, it's like
Speaker 2: no time has passed. And I just did a show
Speaker 2: in DC, which is, you know, really close to just
Speaker 2: Virginia and Southern Virginia and everything. So all of my
Speaker 2: friends came up. Oh n family, it was a beautiful time.
Speaker 1: What were you like in high school?
Speaker 2: I was like in so me and my friends who
Speaker 2: were like from the outside, everybody saw us as like
Speaker 2: the stoner kids. Yeah yeah, yeah, but I did not
Speaker 2: smoke weed or drink or nothing really in high school.
Speaker 1: And you're sober now right.
Speaker 2: I'm so well, I would say, I'm California.
Speaker 1: So California, so real. Yeah yeah, so and you're twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. Yeah, and okay, so you had like a
Speaker 1: little tiny window where you were doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like what do you mean, like well.
Speaker 1: Because if you weren't doing in high school, you're it was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, it was. It was like a college
Speaker 2: into COVID kind of thing.
Speaker 1: It did.
Speaker 2: It kind of rapidly progressed in a in a way,
Speaker 2: So I mean I could go into that if you are,
Speaker 2: we can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, oh, actually I want to well I want
Speaker 1: to know this first week we can hold onto that. Well,
Speaker 1: I want to know this because you said that your
Speaker 1: friends or like that people saw you guys as like
Speaker 1: the stoner kids, but you didn't even smoke weed at
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, which is funny because I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot And I was a little bit like that too,
Speaker 1: except why I said I was a little bit like
Speaker 1: that too, but except I actually did smoke weed, So
Speaker 1: they were right.
Speaker 2: I mean my friends, some of them did smoke a
Speaker 2: lot of weed, yea. And sometimes they would smoke weed
Speaker 2: in the back of class too.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, you that level of stoner do you have because
Speaker 1: you have you have like a cool Do you have
Speaker 1: like a cool demeanor? Do you have you where you
Speaker 1: liked that in high school, like you had this kind
Speaker 1: of like laid back existence that people were like, Oh,
Speaker 1: there's no possible way that you could be that cool
Speaker 1: without being.
Speaker 2: At I guess.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: I mean I've always been into like fashion and stuff
Speaker 2: like uh, and I've I grew up skateboarding a lot,
Speaker 2: so I was very much a part of like the
Speaker 2: skate culture and skate fashion and stuff, which is very
Speaker 2: synonymous with stoner culture.
Speaker 1: Important question. Yeah Tony Hawk or skate skate so much
Speaker 1: better than Tony Hawk. Yeah, no offense to the Tony
Speaker 1: Hawk games, the.
Speaker 2: Important they were classic. Yeah, yeah, but you've seen Skate four.
Speaker 2: I'm a little upset about Skate four.
Speaker 1: Bro It, I'm over it. I mean it's been well.
Speaker 1: I think the Skate three came out in twenty ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all they need. I mean the skateboard is
Speaker 2: like all cartoony it is. I haven't did they release
Speaker 2: any footage of it? Yeah, they've been like rolling out
Speaker 2: like play tests and stuff, and it just doesn't feel
Speaker 2: like a classic skate game.
Speaker 1: Do you still skateboard?
Speaker 2: I do, yeah occasionally.
Speaker 1: How like are you are you nice? Can you like?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could hit like I could probably hit a
Speaker 2: tray flip.
Speaker 1: You can hit a tray flip? Yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 2: That's like my best trick though.
Speaker 1: Did when you were skateboarding in high school? Did that?
Speaker 1: Did you make a lot of friends that way?
Speaker 2: Mmmmm? I had like one friend that skated in high school.
Speaker 1: No, you weren't like in like the whole was.
Speaker 2: There wasn't much of like a skate crew at my school.
Speaker 2: My school was very like diverse, lots of different types
Speaker 2: of people, and like there was barely any skateboarders for
Speaker 2: some reason. Uh, I don't know, but we were just
Speaker 2: like the like I heard. I remember being in high
Speaker 2: school and overhearing someone saying like, oh, there goes to
Speaker 2: artsy kids or something like. Okay, so we were like
Speaker 2: the artsy kids.
Speaker 1: I guess do you like looking back on that? Do
Speaker 1: you believe that was a earned moniker?
Speaker 2: I like it. I like I like being called the
Speaker 2: artsy kid. Okay, I would say artsy did you have?
Speaker 1: Were you emotional in high school?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Did you were? You were like a not like emo
Speaker 1: is in like the subculture, but like emo is in
Speaker 1: like just like in general. Were you a brooding child?
Speaker 2: Definitely? Yeah, that's like you know, that's where I would
Speaker 2: channel to the music.
Speaker 1: You know. Do you remember like what you were brooding over?
Speaker 2: Uh? Well, I had a very traumatic first girlfriend that
Speaker 2: was like it was like four years but it ended
Speaker 2: up with her cheating on me with one of my friends.
Speaker 1: No ship. How old were you guys?
Speaker 2: We were? Uh? Juniors in high school?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't remember how what age that is, but yeah,
Speaker 2: that that that that was devastating at the time for
Speaker 2: my young mind to comprehend. But looking back at it now,
Speaker 2: it's like, if that didn't happen, I wouldn't have started
Speaker 2: writing music because it was like I was just producing
Speaker 2: before that. Then that happened, and I was like I
Speaker 2: need to like vent Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to transmute this into song.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: And what was this? What was the song? You still
Speaker 1: have the song that you wrote at sixteen about your
Speaker 1: cheating girlfriend?
Speaker 2: I think I do somewhere on one of my laptops. Uh.
Speaker 2: Me and my my like best friend from you know,
Speaker 2: like my closest friend in high school, uh Oxy Sleep
Speaker 2: aka Tyler. He him and I just like we're just
Speaker 2: at my house every day recording songs together about this breakup.
Speaker 2: And then like I got back together.
Speaker 1: Wait, your homie was with few recording songs about this breakup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so cool. Yeah that you had a friend, like
Speaker 1: truly like at that age to have a friend who
Speaker 1: will like like sit in this with you, Like that's
Speaker 1: a real homie.
Speaker 2: Well he's still a real homie to this day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: still like we've gotten each other through thick and thin,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Some people have friends where it's like, don't talk to
Speaker 1: me about this girl again after you've already like, stop
Speaker 1: talking about this to me. I'm sick of hearing it.
Speaker 1: And then you have a friend who's like, I will
Speaker 1: sit with you day after day and we will make
Speaker 1: the song together. Yes, you transmute the feeling. It's a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing that it was, very It's very beautiful. We
Speaker 1: still have that relationship, you know, are you still so
Speaker 1: you're still friends with all the that's really nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you said that you probably wouldn't be writing music
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for this lady who cheated on you.
Speaker 1: Any part of you is any part of you glad.
Speaker 2: That she I am? I am, and like I forget
Speaker 2: for a long time of yo, because we were I
Speaker 2: feel like we're kids. Like when you're like a junior
Speaker 2: in high school, you feel like you're grown up, and
Speaker 2: then you reach you know, twenty, and you look back
Speaker 2: at it and you're like, oh, the child. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: then you grow up and you're twenty three and you
Speaker 2: look back at twenty and you're like, oh, the child.
Speaker 1: It keeps happening until you are dead. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: the old Yeah, the older I get them. I realize
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about anything. I become more agnostic
Speaker 1: towards the world and myself and all things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah I feel that. Do you?
Speaker 1: So you really think all the time about how not
Speaker 1: like all the time, but it's been a persistem thought
Speaker 1: lately about what happens after you die?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did anything happen to kind of spark that?
Speaker 2: Not necessarily? I feel like I've just always been like
Speaker 2: a like not like nihilistic person, but like really, oh no,
Speaker 2: like it's more maybe maybe it's a more more, more
Speaker 2: of a curiosity type of thing.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like a nihilistic person at times?
Speaker 2: But I I feel like I've been improving as I
Speaker 2: get older, Like I feel like I am starting to
Speaker 2: see more of the joys in life.
Speaker 1: Do you are you? Do you are you happy? Do
Speaker 1: you like life? Yeah?
Speaker 2: To an extent?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like there there was a reason I got
Speaker 2: into it into drugs, you know. Okay, they were like
Speaker 2: there were times where I was just so unbearably like depressed,
Speaker 2: that the drugs were like the only outlet and they
Speaker 2: did help.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they helped.
Speaker 2: They're they're but the problem is that they're abandoned. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's like they they helped for you know, however
Speaker 2: long you're doing it, and then once you want to
Speaker 2: stop your fuck.
Speaker 1: When I was thirteen, I was like upset about a
Speaker 1: girl and I drank. I went into like my parents
Speaker 1: like alcoholic. Can I drank a Mike's Hard lemonade? It's
Speaker 1: just one, But I was like, oh, I'm like a
Speaker 1: I was. I was very romantic about about drinking this
Speaker 1: Mike's Hard lemonade. Like I was like, hemmingway down in
Speaker 1: whiskey or something.
Speaker 2: Right, the first time you drink your parents' alcohol.
Speaker 1: Yeah, big day, But it is no, it is like, oh,
Speaker 1: in in recent years than that, I have there have
Speaker 1: been times where, yeah, I've gotten drunk and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I totally get what. I don't think. I've had, you know,
Speaker 1: strong problems with alcohol in my life, but there's been
Speaker 1: a I've never had times where I got drunk to
Speaker 1: like escape of like a feeling I didn't want to
Speaker 1: feel and im and I've just been like, oh, there's
Speaker 1: a few times where I did that wrong. I totally
Speaker 1: get why people do this. Yeah, like you know.
Speaker 2: For me is it was like I kind of jumped
Speaker 2: the gun and went straight to fentanyl. Oh really Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: that was like my drug of choice in Virginia. It's
Speaker 2: a big problem with like these fake percosets that are
Speaker 2: just full of fenl and literally we would, man like
Speaker 2: a couple of friends would just like scrape a tiny
Speaker 2: piece off the pill snort it, and you're just.
Speaker 1: So, what what were the feelings you were trying to
Speaker 1: fent away?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like at first it was like,
Speaker 2: you know, the whole girlfriend thing or whatever, but it
Speaker 2: eventually evolved into nothing. I was just doing it, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then it got to the point where I was
Speaker 2: doing it to feel normal.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was like because my tolerance is so high. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I wasn't getting high anymore. I was just doing it
Speaker 2: to film that like baseline functional.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you do you like talk about this stuff
Speaker 1: a lot, like in your music and in your.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah definitely the music and like like fans
Speaker 2: of d M me about it and stuff. I I
Speaker 2: like being able to like help people through that type
Speaker 2: of ship.
Speaker 1: Do you respond to those dms ever? Yeah? OK, because
Speaker 1: there's a lot Sometimes there's someone you know is like
Speaker 1: uh DM, and you about that stuff or like constantly,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: No always, anytime it's something in that realm, I respond
Speaker 2: because I feel like that. Yeah, I feel like I've
Speaker 2: been I've been through it and out the other side,
Speaker 2: so I have the perspective on it now and I
Speaker 2: feel like I can. I want to be able to
Speaker 2: help people.
Speaker 1: Did you have like a like the like a clag
Speaker 1: a rock bottom moment?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So I was in Virginia staying with my parents.
Speaker 2: I was like in between places, so I just dropped
Speaker 2: out of college. I think h because it's like COVID
Speaker 2: and everything was online and music was taking off for me.
Speaker 2: So I was just at home like all day with
Speaker 2: my girlfriend at the time, and we were just like
Speaker 2: doing the lines of fentol all day, just asleep all day.
Speaker 2: And it led to I think. I think I was
Speaker 2: I couldn't get more percocets and I was going through
Speaker 2: the worst withdrawals. The thing about like opiate withdrawals is
Speaker 2: like it's just the worst pain you'll ever feel in
Speaker 2: your life. You feel it through your whole body. You're hot,
Speaker 2: you're cold, you're burning like everything, your skin feels like
Speaker 2: wet but like rubbery. You know, it's the worst feeling
Speaker 2: and it's like you would do anything to escape it.
Speaker 2: And I was just like I need I need help.
Speaker 2: And I went to my mom. I was like, I've
Speaker 2: been addicted to Precepts for like five months, no idea,
Speaker 2: no clue, and I would be at dinner, like I'll
Speaker 2: be at dinner a lot.
Speaker 1: They just didn't know I should know IEA. She was like, hey,
Speaker 1: what do you know?
Speaker 2: Because they they my parents are like, you know, they
Speaker 2: they did stuff going up, but they were never into
Speaker 2: something like that. Sure, yeah, it's a like something like
Speaker 2: fandels are really crazy one to get into. But I
Speaker 2: don't know. The way I got into it was a
Speaker 2: really bad influence in my life. Who introduced it to me?
Speaker 1: Okay, where do you do? You don't have contact with
Speaker 1: them anymore? Did they?
Speaker 2: I do not do not them anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can tell everyone. Mm hmmm. So what
Speaker 1: was it that was kind of like the thing that
Speaker 1: you went to rehab? Right?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 1: What was that? Like?
Speaker 2: Honestly, it was a blast. I had so much fun.
Speaker 1: It sounds it sounds a little fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like it was like summer camp. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it sounds like I went, uh August of twenty twenty
Speaker 2: three maybe, and it was just like all different types
Speaker 2: of people and it was this pretty small group too,
Speaker 2: which was nice. And we would have movie nights, we
Speaker 2: would have therapy groups. We were allowed to have our
Speaker 2: phones and laptops.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: I actually recorded like a EP in my little room
Speaker 2: and read it on SoundCloud. Yeah. Would you record like
Speaker 2: just with like your MacBook speaker literally with the MacBook microphone?
Speaker 1: Cool?
Speaker 2: And just like I had, I was allowed to have
Speaker 2: a guitar, recorded the guitars straight into the MacBook microphone.
Speaker 1: Do you start to give me anyone in rehab that
Speaker 1: you're still like homies with? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely, like those people are like lifelong friends
Speaker 2: because it's like you're all kind of like going through
Speaker 2: the same thing together at the same time. And also
Speaker 2: rehab is like a it like really opened my eyes
Speaker 2: to like how bad other people have it sometimes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, like I was, I felt very like privileged
Speaker 2: to have been able to be in you know, my parents'
Speaker 2: house like under a roof safe, like you know, like
Speaker 2: if I probably wouldn't have been able to overdose because
Speaker 2: I had, like my girlfriend at the time aramatic girlfriend
Speaker 2: at the time, and but you know, these other people
Speaker 2: that I met there were like older, like they would
Speaker 2: be like, you know, like a foty year old dude
Speaker 2: or something, and he's just on his own. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: nobody in his life.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 2: That's like that like seeing that made me realize, like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck am I doing?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a I feel like that's
Speaker 1: one of the other things about getting older is like
Speaker 1: you kind of you realize all that like once, because
Speaker 1: when you're young and you grow up, you almost have
Speaker 1: you have blinders on, right, you only have access to
Speaker 1: your life experience and the life experience of the people
Speaker 1: directly around you, which it happened typically is very similar
Speaker 1: to yours. And then you get older and then you're like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, not everyone you know has a like you know,
Speaker 1: two functional parents, you know, yeah, like you know, lives,
Speaker 1: grew up in a house, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's like that's I don't know, that's
Speaker 2: a part of the life. You just kind of like,
Speaker 2: that's that's what that kind of circles back to the
Speaker 2: like reliving your life. I feel like you learn more
Speaker 2: and more and more every time you cycle through your life.
Speaker 2: Every time you die, you wake up as your baby again,
Speaker 2: and you you go through and you learn new lessons.
Speaker 1: You are Rick and Morty.
Speaker 2: I I like, I like a little bit of.
Speaker 1: Do you know like Roy you know I'm talking about
Speaker 1: Like Okay, so you know the wreckon Morny episode they
Speaker 1: go to like this like Alien Arcade and they play
Speaker 1: this game called.
Speaker 2: Where Yeah, where he's stuck in the game for like
Speaker 2: a lifetime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it kind of reminds me of that, like
Speaker 1: that Keep your Life is Roy, We're all.
Speaker 2: Exactly Roy exactly. Yeah, It's like that. That's how I
Speaker 2: I honestly feel like that's kind of what it is. Like.
Speaker 2: You die, you go up, but you get to see
Speaker 2: your recap, your life recap. You get to see where
Speaker 2: you fucked up, you know, you get to see where
Speaker 2: you did something right. You go back down. You don't
Speaker 2: have much memory of it, but it's intuition that stays,
Speaker 2: you know, because like where does that come from? The
Speaker 2: intuition like like a gut feeling telling you not to
Speaker 2: do something?
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I got Oh that's an interesting idea. Is
Speaker 1: is intuition a lesson you learned that's very that's very
Speaker 1: that's very woo. Yeah. The idea that intuition is like
Speaker 1: a lesson you learned in the past life.
Speaker 2: That's the way I like to think about it.
Speaker 1: Yea, what do you do you so you're always going
Speaker 1: to be human? Would you could you be like a
Speaker 1: different m this species?
Speaker 2: Honestly? Mm hmm. I don't know if I don't know
Speaker 2: if I could, I don't know if I want to
Speaker 2: be another species? Yeah, it would suck, yeah, just because
Speaker 2: they it's just survival for other species. We like get
Speaker 2: to do this type of thing.
Speaker 1: It's true.
Speaker 2: We get to dress up other species exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. M hmmm. So what's your relationship like with your
Speaker 1: parents now? Are you guys cool?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We're great.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My my parents are very supportive of like what I do,
Speaker 2: and they're always there for me, which is very sweet
Speaker 2: and like always. I try to go back to Virginia
Speaker 2: as much as I can, but I need to go
Speaker 2: back more definitely.
Speaker 1: What's the most fun thing to do in Richmond, Virginia?
Speaker 1: In Richmond, this is that where you're from Richmond. I'm
Speaker 1: from Northern Virginia, Non Virginia.
Speaker 2: Went to school in Richmond.
Speaker 1: What's the most fun thing to do in Northern Virginia.
Speaker 2: Most fun thing to do in Northern Virginia. Okay, this
Speaker 2: is a this is a very specific thing to me
Speaker 2: and my friends. But the what we would do for
Speaker 2: fun is we would break into our high school football
Speaker 2: stadium and we'd burn these CDs, hour long CDs of
Speaker 2: like just so like crazy frog, like just stupid dumbass songs.
Speaker 2: Yeah what accel? Yeah, yeah, just the most stupid songs,
Speaker 2: and then put it in the player, crank the volume
Speaker 2: up is like two am, right, cranked the volume up,
Speaker 2: play it and just run and.
Speaker 1: We hear it. Oh ship, Like okay, you broke into
Speaker 1: the like the a V of the stadium. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yeah. We like in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: in the middle of all the way we would go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we would going the CD. We'd like we'd put
Speaker 2: a design on the CD for whoever finds it, like
Speaker 2: the security guard it finds it.
Speaker 1: Don't get caught doing that.
Speaker 2: No, And we did it like five or six times.
Speaker 2: We'd also you know, uh, like attached to the football
Speaker 2: stadium was also the snack room, and we would just
Speaker 2: ravenged the snack room.
Speaker 1: Dude, that's so how easy? What was the what was
Speaker 1: the security flaw in the football stadium?
Speaker 2: I don't know, we were we were kids, Like I
Speaker 2: think the flaw actually was one of the doors was
Speaker 2: just left unlocked, and so it's on them. It's on
Speaker 2: them for doing living in unlocked.
Speaker 1: You seem like you were into Uh are you familiar
Speaker 1: with the term urbex like urban exploring? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love that shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah do you ever do you have any good finds
Speaker 1: that you remember growing up?
Speaker 2: I mean where I grew up, there was not much
Speaker 2: like abandoned stuff, So I feel like the urbex we
Speaker 2: would do would be like like climbing on top of
Speaker 2: my school or something. Yeah, Like we had like this
Speaker 2: shopping center near my house that we would like find
Speaker 2: ways to like climb on top of it, and like
Speaker 2: there was like glass.
Speaker 1: Off you remember you remember planking?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course there was.
Speaker 1: Just there was this thing called owling where we go
Speaker 1: to a high place, go to a high place and
Speaker 1: you do a little like owl pretty much is doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got kicked out of j CC's uh summer
Speaker 1: camp for owl for owling. Yeah, I get kicked out
Speaker 1: and I got like suspended for a few days.
Speaker 2: So owling is is illegal, is what you're telling me.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not cool. You know. Like if I
Speaker 1: if I were I mean I was probably like twelve,
Speaker 1: and if I were like a real adult and I
Speaker 1: saw a twelve year old on the top of a building, yeah,
Speaker 1: like just fucking like true, I would be like that
Speaker 1: is so knock. I would freak the fuck out that
Speaker 1: I would scream at them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to see like an adult man
Speaker 2: do it, though, well a.
Speaker 1: Lot of adult a lot of adults do it. And
Speaker 1: then they jump off. They just jump off, They just
Speaker 1: jump off. Yeah, but yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 2: Think do they who?
Speaker 1: At least do they who?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You gotta get one last. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna jump off a building, you gotta get one last.
Speaker 2: If you're owling that hard, Yeah, you gotta get one
Speaker 2: last food like who?
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think if you're gonna owl yourself to death.
Speaker 2: Find words on the stone. Who is it? Whot or who?
Speaker 1: I guess it's a whot, you know what. I think
Speaker 1: it's phonetically it's a hoot. Yeah, but the just the spell,
Speaker 1: the if you're just doing the sound. Yeah, Hey, you
Speaker 1: want to answer some questions. So uh all right, so
Speaker 1: so okay, so for some context, you posted sometimes we
Speaker 1: do phone calls on this, but today I was like,
Speaker 1: I think it's better we just do a little bit
Speaker 1: of a We just read viewer questions. I got a
Speaker 1: little bit of viewer mail. I sometimes read my viewer mail.
Speaker 1: You made an Instagram story thing and you collected some
Speaker 1: questions from your Instagram viewers. Yeah, I compiled over here.
Speaker 2: I love them.
Speaker 1: All right, let's see. Do you have a name for
Speaker 1: your fans.
Speaker 2: I don't, but they have called themselves Aldians at one
Speaker 2: point audience. Yeah, but I feel like that one fizzled out.
Speaker 2: Now they're like now they call me like father strong
Speaker 2: father strong.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what a strong?
Speaker 2: So strung out Symphony is like the name of my album.
Speaker 2: It comes out October third, but it's also more than
Speaker 2: just an album. It's like I wanted to be a brand.
Speaker 2: I want it to be everything.
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah cool? What about like your audience?
Speaker 2: What about them? No? Like, I mean like as like
Speaker 2: a name, like keeping the name of audience.
Speaker 1: Or no like no? Oh wait, Alldians are like like,
Speaker 1: you know, like you have an audience, you have an
Speaker 1: audience audience.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's what you're saying. Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah you can, Yeah you can.
Speaker 2: I'll take that.
Speaker 1: You can have that, all right. So this is from Julia.
Speaker 1: She said, are you team Conrad or Team Jeremiah? What
Speaker 1: the fuck is that? Okay? I was wondering if you
Speaker 1: would know what that? I just about this?
Speaker 2: Okay, what is it?
Speaker 1: There's just there's this show called The Summer I turned
Speaker 1: pretty okay, and uh, it's very popular and I think
Speaker 1: it's about a girl who has to choose between this
Speaker 1: guy Conrad.
Speaker 2: Is it reality TV?
Speaker 1: No, it's like a it's like a scripted thing and
Speaker 1: it's like it's like the it's like the the this
Speaker 1: Generation's Team Edward Team Jacob. No way, Yeah, somebody I
Speaker 1: literally just I met someone. She introduced me to the
Speaker 1: the show and she was like, are you team Conrad
Speaker 1: or Team Jeremiah? And I and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what that is? And she was like, just answer.
Speaker 2: I feel like UNK. I feel like you know what?
Speaker 1: No, what is? What is? I don't know any I
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, Well, okay, this is a good exchange
Speaker 1: of ideas.
Speaker 2: Unk is like a term that younger people are using See. No,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm making myself sound even more like an unk.
Speaker 1: But it's a term is like a cool boomer.
Speaker 2: It's like no, it's like yeah, it's just like the
Speaker 2: older someone older than you, like, it's like what fifteen
Speaker 2: year olds call twenty one plus year olds like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: mid twenties, you're if you're in your twenties.
Speaker 1: Now, are you team Conrad or team Jeremiah.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Jeremiah just because of
Speaker 2: the name.
Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, I only I watched a little bit of
Speaker 1: the show. I like Jeremiah better than Conrad. Okay, so
Speaker 1: I think you picked right. All right, thanks for asking this, Julia. Okay.
Speaker 1: Max Pilled said, do you miss New York City?
Speaker 2: Oh that's my neighbor. That was my neighbor. Oh shit, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I read that one.
Speaker 1: Well, this is your neighbor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he was. He was my neighbor when I
Speaker 2: lived in the Lower East Side. I think there was
Speaker 2: more to his question. He said something like like, and
Speaker 2: was I your favorite neighbor or why was I your
Speaker 2: favorite neighbor? Baby? But he was just this chill ass dude,
Speaker 2: and uh, I would just see him, like, you know,
Speaker 2: once a month. Chill ass guy. But I don't really
Speaker 2: miss New York, can't lie?
Speaker 1: Do you miss him? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I miss him. I would say I'm missing.
Speaker 1: That's why don't you miss New York?
Speaker 2: Just too like stressful and like fast.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, yeah, you can definitely springs spread
Speaker 1: your legs out a little bit more. In Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I just bought a BMW. I'm
Speaker 2: two forty.
Speaker 1: You bought a BMW? Yeah, okay, pretty good.
Speaker 2: I'm I love the highways there when there's no traffic.
Speaker 1: Uh boo Zang said, can you describe a day in
Speaker 1: the life of a few of a future version of
Speaker 1: you that has everything you want?
Speaker 2: M m man, I want I want a gold plaque,
Speaker 2: and well, I guess, okay, I guess it'll be a
Speaker 2: day in life, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I want my house in Virginia. I wanted to
Speaker 2: be tucked away in the woods.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I wake up, I will walk to like a coffee shop,
Speaker 2: come back to my house and maybe I have like
Speaker 2: a trad wife there.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she cooks me. Maybe she cooks me some
Speaker 2: food or something. And then I you know, like maybe
Speaker 2: I have a studio in the in the house, and
Speaker 2: I just like hang out in the studio and play
Speaker 2: video games and make music and what else. Maybe I'm
Speaker 2: just such a homebody that I like, I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't want to go out. I don't want to eat out,
Speaker 2: like I want to order my uber eats everything.
Speaker 1: Do you cook or do you uber eats over?
Speaker 2: I can't cook it.
Speaker 1: I can't cook it. Yeah, I can't cook. I don't
Speaker 1: have I'm a word in my apartment right now. I
Speaker 1: don't have a fucking Uh. I have a stove. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's got boxes on it on yeah, stove top.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little bit of a hazard. I would say,
Speaker 2: oh ship really nah, Well maybe I don't.
Speaker 1: No, it's actually good you brought that.
Speaker 2: Do you have a cat in here?
Speaker 1: I don't have any? No, Okay, I'm the only living
Speaker 1: thing that good exists here.
Speaker 2: Because we have a cat, me and my friend. Uh.
Speaker 2: And one time the cat jumped onto the oven and
Speaker 2: turned on Jesus cracking flame okay, and the whole house
Speaker 2: smelled like propane.
Speaker 1: It was really fucking god.
Speaker 2: It was left on for probably like thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: Dude. See, this is why I don't want to have.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people will say to me, like, oh, you should
Speaker 1: get a lizard, like they'd be cute, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't want anything in my house that's.
Speaker 2: Alive, and like you got to travel too. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a big part, like with us having the cat, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like you're you're running around.
Speaker 2: We have to, Yeah, we have to, and we have
Speaker 2: to figure out someone to watch the cat. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we have.
Speaker 1: Cats are self sufficient. The cats can just run around.
Speaker 1: Cats don't really need a person, like a dog is
Speaker 1: kind of kind of too dumb to survive on its own.
Speaker 2: Dog needs like all the attention. Yeah, but cats, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're very low a maintenance, which is nice. We just
Speaker 2: got an auto feeder for the cat, which is good.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. Yeah, that's nice. Was he just like
Speaker 1: wave his cat pop?
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I haven't seen it yet. I
Speaker 2: think it's like on a timer. It's like the dinner time.
Speaker 2: He probably waits by it at He probably has learned
Speaker 2: by now actually to get into the box without it dispensing.
Speaker 2: Because this cat we found on the street and he
Speaker 2: was the tiniest little baby, but somehow he was surviving
Speaker 2: and now in the house. If we leave a single
Speaker 2: snack out bag of chips, hot cheetos, anything he likes,
Speaker 2: spicy shit, he'll demolish it. He'll eat a full bag
Speaker 2: of talkies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little Garfield running around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's crazy. I've never seen a cat eat
Speaker 2: like spicy food.
Speaker 1: You say you play video games. Yeah, we were talking earlier.
Speaker 1: You saw I got the switch too. You got switch too?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the switch.
Speaker 1: You said you said you play you we were talking earlier.
Speaker 1: You said you're playing Cyberpunk on it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm playing Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven.
Speaker 1: Are you playing anything else on there?
Speaker 2: I've been cycling through Cyberpunk? What else?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Dying Light? Oh, that's on the switch, Yeah, it is
Speaker 2: on the switch.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, it's like, what is that again?
Speaker 2: It's like the Parker Zombie game. Okay, yeah, it's sick
Speaker 2: all right, Dying Light Mario Kart World, which that just
Speaker 2: came out for the Switch too. Yeah, I want to
Speaker 2: play I want to play the New Donkey Kong New Rocks.
Speaker 2: Yeah that because I've been like, I like cycling between
Speaker 2: like five different games. Fortnite.
Speaker 1: Also, I've never never played Fortnite, but I Also, I
Speaker 1: cycle through games I love, I have huge fucking like
Speaker 1: it's a great it's a big ADHD thing. I like
Speaker 1: love playing five different at once.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And I have to, like you know, I
Speaker 2: have to like space them apart evenly so that I
Speaker 2: don't forget how to play one of the games.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about this real quick. I don't know
Speaker 1: what your feelings are, but the new Mario Kart is
Speaker 1: severely disappointing to me. I agree, you do, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not crazy. It's a it's extremely disappointing game.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I guess the open world is whatever, Like.
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a it's I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you're playing cyberpunk right like, like it's that's an open world.
Speaker 1: It's got people in characters. The Mario Kart world is barren,
Speaker 1: it's empty.
Speaker 2: Nobody uses the open world feature because like, what are
Speaker 2: you doing it?
Speaker 1: And then they like Mario Kart Deluxe. It has all
Speaker 1: the cool characters. That's got the animal crossing eys, got
Speaker 1: fucking link you know.
Speaker 2: You know what I hate the most about Mark Car
Speaker 2: World is that you can't customize the cars anymore like
Speaker 2: wheels body Glider.
Speaker 1: Right, you know you just pick a full car.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I hate why.
Speaker 1: It's a step back in the series.
Speaker 2: Why would they do that? All right, the worst decision. Honestly,
Speaker 2: Nintendo is known for doing that that type of shit.
Speaker 1: Let's see here. Somebody asked what got you through life's difficulties?
Speaker 1: That's from Emma Walrave.
Speaker 2: Always music, Always music. Yeah, I feel like I'm not
Speaker 2: getting like talking about my feelings like to a person,
Speaker 2: or it's not not very cathartic for me. I've like
Speaker 2: it done like therapy or whatever in the past, and
Speaker 2: it's like I feel like I just for me to
Speaker 2: like get through something, I have to do it alone.
Speaker 1: Do you are so do you go to therapy?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Actually, what is it you didn't like about therapy?
Speaker 2: When you were going, I felt like I just couldn't
Speaker 2: get past the idea that, oh, I'm paying this person
Speaker 2: to listen to me, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I like psychiatrists because they prescribe you medication. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're cool and they're just like straight to the point.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But therapists like to bat you around a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I will say I haven't like really given
Speaker 2: therapy like a full, like full, like year long run.
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I feel like it could be
Speaker 2: helpful if I've really committed to it.
Speaker 1: That's what That's kind of where I'm at right now
Speaker 1: is I feel like I always go. I get frustrated
Speaker 1: with it after like a few sessions, and I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 1: this is stupid.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're a therapist yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm like, I don't even know why I said. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not a therapist at all. I'm an insane person.
Speaker 1: But I you know, it's funny because I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do do like a therapy E E E podcast,
Speaker 1: But uh.
Speaker 2: I will say, this conversation is a little cathartic.
Speaker 1: I like, okay, good.
Speaker 2: Talking about just random stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is your first You said this is your
Speaker 1: first podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like form kind of thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's fun to just talk. It is in
Speaker 1: gecko suits.
Speaker 2: It is fun.
Speaker 1: Okay. Someone said, uh, what is your songwriting process look like?
Speaker 2: Okay, So, since I I like to since i'd like
Speaker 2: to produce everything myself, I always start with the production
Speaker 2: and I usually will start with like either guitar or drums,
Speaker 2: and then I'll build a melody out of like a
Speaker 2: synth or something, and I'll I'll immediately start vocals over
Speaker 2: just like the bass melody and like some maybe some
Speaker 2: drums super simple, just do like little four bars and
Speaker 2: then I kind of like keep building it out in
Speaker 2: little increments like that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I don't record like the whole song in one go,
Speaker 2: Like I don't make the beat first and then go
Speaker 2: and record the vocals all in one go. I like
Speaker 2: to make the beat as I'm recording the vocals. That way,
Speaker 2: I structure the beat around my vocals.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you do you you do the vocals first
Speaker 1: and then do the beat.
Speaker 2: Kind of it's a it's like a two that's at
Speaker 2: the same time.
Speaker 1: And so it's almost like if a rapper like rapped
Speaker 1: and then it was like, Okay, now put a beat
Speaker 1: over this rap.
Speaker 2: Kind of it kind of it's it's like it's like
Speaker 2: I'll lay down the synth line and I'll do a
Speaker 2: little vocal melody over it, and then I'll do the bass,
Speaker 2: and then I'll move to the next section. I'll do
Speaker 2: the drums there and then more vocals there.
Speaker 1: So what's the name of the this is strung Out Symphony.
Speaker 1: That's the name of the new album. One of the
Speaker 1: songs about.
Speaker 2: Just my life. There. Like I said earlier, it's like
Speaker 2: music is my main like way of like getting out
Speaker 2: feelings and stuff. So it's very personal. And I like
Speaker 2: my songs to be like really just like I don't
Speaker 2: know therefore myself. And if people can relate, that's beautiful
Speaker 2: m hm. And usually people do relate, which is which
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 1: Someone said, uh, Andrew Dreu Drew Andrea you. Andrea says,
Speaker 1: what would you both do if you encountered clones of yourselves?
Speaker 1: I'll let you go first. What would you do to
Speaker 1: encounter a clone of yourself? Oh? Here you go, you
Speaker 1: go ahead. And I was going to bring up a thing.
Speaker 2: You wait, you go first. I want to know what
Speaker 2: you and I.
Speaker 1: Was gonna give my answer. I was gonna bring up
Speaker 1: a thing. A lot of people or not a lot
Speaker 1: of people. I read this article a long time ago,
Speaker 1: maybe ten years ago, that if you encounter a clone
Speaker 1: of yourself, the main two Jullie, I already know the
Speaker 1: main two things you could do with that clone is
Speaker 1: you could either fight yourself or have sex with yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The first thing that came to mind, is have
Speaker 2: sex with myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's not gay, it's not not not that
Speaker 1: that's bad, it's well, okay.
Speaker 2: So the incest.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's interest. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: that much different from masturbation. Right, although, here's the thing
Speaker 1: about having sex with yourself, is that uh well, I
Speaker 1: remember I remember reading this article a long time ago
Speaker 1: of like making the of a guy was making a
Speaker 1: case of as to why you want to fuck his
Speaker 1: own clone, and the idea being that you know your
Speaker 1: clone would would know everything that you're into sexually. It'd
Speaker 1: be the most it would be. It would be deeply,
Speaker 1: deeply compatible with your body because it's you. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, I think i'd be if, I think I'd
Speaker 1: be grotesque. I agree, it would be disgusted by my
Speaker 1: own body if I was having sex with myself, I agree.
Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd want to fight myself either,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see the point in fighting myself. I
Speaker 2: feel like we would work together to do something, Like
Speaker 2: i'd i'd just be in two places at one time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like that, Yeah, like I would. I would, I
Speaker 2: would turn it into a utility. You know, we'd because
Speaker 2: like I like being at home so much that I
Speaker 2: could send my clone out to go do this thing
Speaker 2: for me, and then he could swap out. We just
Speaker 2: go back and forth. M yeah no, and like just
Speaker 2: I could take the workload off a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm really picturing being with a clone on myself.
Speaker 1: I think it would creep me out. I probably tell
Speaker 1: him to fuck off, Yeah, go somewhere.
Speaker 2: Okay, But what do you do when he fucks off
Speaker 2: and he like just wreaks havoc and it's you.
Speaker 1: He probably wouldn't reak havoc though, because it would still
Speaker 1: be me, and so he would still be conscientious enough
Speaker 1: to not want to like go kill people.
Speaker 2: And what's stop the clone from feeling like he's the
Speaker 2: main one?
Speaker 1: If he if the clone does feel like he's the
Speaker 1: main one, then he might kill you. Oh he might
Speaker 1: kill me. Yeah, yeah, Oh I have to kill him.
Speaker 1: That's what I would do with my clone. Would kill him.
Speaker 2: You might have to kill him first, because then something
Speaker 2: bad he could happens.
Speaker 1: My answer, I'd have sex with him and then I'd
Speaker 1: kill him. Oh okay, yeah, okay, in that order, in
Speaker 1: that order.
Speaker 2: It's dark.
Speaker 1: What are your favorite moments with other artists while touring?
Speaker 2: Oh, honestly, best moments were touring with my good friend Glave.
Speaker 2: I've been on two tours with him.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: And first tour we did was my very first tour,
Speaker 2: and we got the whole like, you know, we got
Speaker 2: a whole tour bus and everything, and it was just
Speaker 2: so much fun, like hanging out on the tour bus
Speaker 2: and fucking around the whole time and sleeping in these
Speaker 2: little like stasis chambers. You like these these little bunks
Speaker 2: in the bus and you just like go to sleep
Speaker 2: and you wake, you just teleport to the next city
Speaker 2: and you just like yet all this time in the
Speaker 2: day to walk around the city and explore.
Speaker 1: So you're a homebody.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you like touring?
Speaker 2: I love touring.
Speaker 1: Yeah. How many tours have you been on?
Speaker 2: Uh? I think four?
Speaker 1: Cool?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Cool? What do you have a favorite city that you
Speaker 1: like to tour? U?
Speaker 2: La and New York? Oh is the best?
Speaker 1: Cool? Yeah? What have you?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: You did your show last night here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I had to go. I went so, well that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just like I just like just do my
Speaker 2: own thing on stage. I don't care about what anybody
Speaker 2: is like paying attention to I just do I just
Speaker 2: have fun on that stage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you ever had a show where you were like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I felt good about this one?
Speaker 2: Oh dude. Literally two days ago we played Boston and
Speaker 2: we get there and we have soundcheck and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, you have two minutes to soundcheck. And
Speaker 2: we didn't have our main m D who is the
Speaker 2: music director who sets everything up for us, all the
Speaker 2: cables and stuff, and we're over here trying to fgure
Speaker 2: out how the fuck to like plugging these cables and
Speaker 2: grout everything to the to the venue and it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's coming up on one minute thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, you're your sh it's not working. We're
Speaker 2: gonna have to do no. You know, I'm You're not
Speaker 2: gonna be able to hear your vocals in your ears.
Speaker 2: Normally I have in ears where I can hear my vocals,
Speaker 2: but that show, I wasn't able to hear my own vocals.
Speaker 2: So I was just free balling it, just like singing,
Speaker 2: singing my little heart up. And it's still even though
Speaker 2: it like the ship got fucked up, and like like
Speaker 2: halfway through the set, like all the everything stopped, like
Speaker 2: everything shut off for some reason, like all the music
Speaker 2: cut out for a second. Even though there were like
Speaker 2: fuck ups, it was still a good time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, too minute sound checks is? Uh? Is tough?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean that's the treatment you get when
Speaker 2: you're opening for other artists.
Speaker 1: Have you have you the headline tour?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Nice? How how was how was your headline?
Speaker 2: It was beautiful? Then you know, they bring you cookies instead.
Speaker 2: They treat you like a god at the venues, but
Speaker 2: when you're opening, they're like, they're like, just set your
Speaker 2: shut up and go just you're good to go, get
Speaker 2: off stage, and they don't care because they the priority.
Speaker 1: Is of course, of course, of course. So what's the
Speaker 1: future looking like for mister Alden? What do you? I know?
Speaker 1: You have an album coming out on the third of October.
Speaker 1: What's it called again, The Strung Out Symphony? It is
Speaker 1: about your life?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna tour the album?
Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, yeah, And I wanna I want to do
Speaker 2: like a europe tour. I wanna. I've not never done
Speaker 2: anything like uh, I've only been to Paris to model
Speaker 2: for Selene.
Speaker 1: You modeled for Selene. Who wait, who's Selene?
Speaker 2: Celene is a brand?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but what was it like being It wasn't
Speaker 1: like modeling in Paris.
Speaker 2: It was really sick at first, and then there were
Speaker 2: riots in Paris at the time. Oh so the show
Speaker 2: got canceled. I wasn't able to walk.
Speaker 1: Oh you couldn't walk the runway. So are you do you? Like,
Speaker 1: do you do a lot of model stuff?
Speaker 2: No, not, not that often. It's like a secondary thing
Speaker 2: that it like, it's like a cool opportunity presents itself.
Speaker 2: I'll take it. Like the Selene thing is really cool
Speaker 2: because I really like like the like Selene clothes, like
Speaker 2: Hetty Samaine stuff, But it's it's not like my favorite
Speaker 2: thing to do.
Speaker 1: So, uh, you got the album coming out. What's anything
Speaker 1: else up in the future for your life.
Speaker 2: After the album comes out? I want to I wanna.
Speaker 2: I want to start a band with my friend Gabe.
Speaker 2: That's one thing, and like, you know, have this whole
Speaker 2: another side project. And I want to like stay independent
Speaker 2: for a little while. I'm with the label right now,
Speaker 2: which is super cool, but I I miss being independent
Speaker 2: sometimes just purely for the like freedom of being able
Speaker 2: to drop a song on a random Wednesday.
Speaker 1: When yeah, sure, yeah, sure, sure so sure. M hm hmm.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think I was of of what else
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you? Hmm. Oh here, let
Speaker 1: me look at let me look at these questions real quick.
Speaker 1: I'll see if we have any more questions. Oh s,
Speaker 1: I gotta plug in my computer. This is a very
Speaker 1: important part of the podcast. You gotta you gotta plug
Speaker 1: in the computer sometimes. Okay, sick. Wait, yeah, because you
Speaker 1: know the computer is how if there was no computer,
Speaker 1: we would just be yeah, we were talking to the
Speaker 1: earth dream all right, Oh uh, okay, we have we
Speaker 1: have one more questions. This is from Ari Morole. Do
Speaker 1: you feel as though you've accomplished most of your goals? Hey,
Speaker 1: what's left to accomplish all of them?
Speaker 2: I have so many goals. I mean, I want, I
Speaker 2: want gold records, I want I want to play an arena.
Speaker 2: I want to do big, big shows and like just
Speaker 2: like I want to travel the world and do shows.
Speaker 1: Where if you could do if you could do a
Speaker 1: big show anywhere on the planet.
Speaker 2: Dude, probably Japan. Oh you're a benajpan No, that's like
Speaker 2: one of the first places I want to go to.
Speaker 1: Travel band's cool. Map done a few shows in Japan.
Speaker 2: That's sick.
Speaker 1: They're cool. They're a fun time. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I I uh so, I had to take a language
Speaker 2: in high school and I got to pick between Spanish, Latin,
Speaker 2: or Japanese. I chose Japanese.
Speaker 1: You remember any Japanese?
Speaker 2: No? Really, I will not do it. It's adversing.
Speaker 1: You remember ka, of course? I remember how I'm trying
Speaker 1: to remember. How the fuck do I say? Fuck? Why
Speaker 1: don't I remember? What is your name?
Speaker 2: I'm not no namaa desk another nama Desca. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that was right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that sounded right. Yeah Desca Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you remember you know?
Speaker 2: What is it was? That want?
Speaker 1: That's how are you?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I remember that. You're bringing it back.
Speaker 1: I lived there for like two months at the beginning
Speaker 1: of this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so do you, because when I eventually go out there,
Speaker 2: I want to spend a lot of time out there.
Speaker 1: Oh you should have. Fucking is so cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you feel like those two months like you
Speaker 2: kind of like we're like catching onto the language better.
Speaker 1: A little a little bit as much as you could
Speaker 1: in two months. I mean definitely not as much as
Speaker 1: you could in two months, but you know, as much
Speaker 1: as you could passively in two months.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'd have like a slight advantage because
Speaker 2: of learning in high school. Yeah, come back to me.
Speaker 1: It's sick though, I love I mean, yeah, Tokyo. I
Speaker 1: love like a big city, you know.
Speaker 2: I love like futuristic looking cities.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, Oh shabuya fucking rocks.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's sick, you know. Yeah, that's why I like
Speaker 2: the game Cyberpunk so much.
Speaker 1: Cyberpunk.
Speaker 2: Where does cyberpunk take place, like like far future dystopian
Speaker 2: in America? I think it's that somewhere between California, like
Speaker 2: some Yeah, somewhere in California.
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta sell my copy of Mario Kart World.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you also hate mark Our World.
Speaker 1: I thought I was crazy because everyone is kind of
Speaker 1: dick riding it. I think IGN gave it. Did IGN
Speaker 1: give it some big crazy score?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: I think? But it's just it's not good. It's not
Speaker 1: that great.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I'll still play. I just I
Speaker 2: like it. I like the knockout mode.
Speaker 1: That's the only I like the knockout mode too. It's
Speaker 1: where you do one big Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you really get it really gets your adrenaline
Speaker 2: going when you're like going, like catching up and you're
Speaker 2: like you have to get to like whatever, like eighth place, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: ninth and overtake the guy right in front of you.
Speaker 1: Who do you play as?
Speaker 2: I play as shy guy?
Speaker 1: You play as a shy guy? Yeah? Is it because
Speaker 1: you're a shy guy? Maybe?
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's because I'm ah, do.
Speaker 1: You feel like you're a shy guy?
Speaker 2: Definitely? Yeah, that's why I like stand inside.
Speaker 1: Well, how did you? How did you feel about this? Uh,
Speaker 1: past hour of hour?
Speaker 2: It's been about an hour. Yeah, it went by very fast.
Speaker 2: I felt I felt unshy.
Speaker 1: Good, I felt open good. Let's see. Okay, so we
Speaker 1: want to make sure that people know about the album.
Speaker 1: What what do you well when this comes out? If
Speaker 1: people want to let's do this. If people want to
Speaker 1: get in to the album verse, where do they start?
Speaker 1: Where should the people start with you?
Speaker 2: With that album out?
Speaker 1: With you? In general? If people people, if people listening
Speaker 1: to this haven't heard you before, should they start? Okay?
Speaker 2: I would say my biggest songs called I Can't Believe,
Speaker 2: I'll let You get Away. That's kind of the tone
Speaker 2: of the album, and I feel like moving forward, that's
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep that tone but still evolve it. I
Speaker 2: can never stick with the same sound for too long.
Speaker 2: I don't like making the same song like multiple times.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm gonna put this album out that
Speaker 2: has like songs that are similar to that, but also
Speaker 2: a bunch of variation, and then move on to another
Speaker 2: sound after that.
Speaker 1: M m yeah, what would the other sound be or
Speaker 1: you're doing now?
Speaker 2: I think I feel like I would take it more
Speaker 2: and like an experimental still keep like elements of a band,
Speaker 2: like you know, live drums, live guitar, but more uh,
Speaker 2: just like more inaccessible if that's the right word, Like
Speaker 2: a little more niche Yeah, more obscure exactly?
Speaker 1: Is there any other things that you want to plug
Speaker 1: to the people before we go?
Speaker 2: Man, I hate self promotion.
Speaker 1: That's why we're here, motherfucker.
Speaker 2: I hate it. Well, I mean I like being here
Speaker 2: just to hang out. Yeah, I feel, I feel, I feel,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I mean, well, I'm on tour
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: Where we were are we off too? So if this,
Speaker 1: if this comes out, I believe the podcast version is
Speaker 1: going to drop September fifth. Where are you at?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know where I'm gonna be at. I
Speaker 2: think I might might still be on tour. Okay, so
Speaker 2: come to those shows, come see Wisp. Wisp is going
Speaker 2: to be touring longer than I am. Okay, So go
Speaker 2: see Wisp please. She's the coolest artist ever. I worked
Speaker 2: on her album that she's touring right now, and I
Speaker 2: love like I love to working with her. I love
Speaker 2: the songs that we made together and stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 2: go go see Wisp Live Beautiful.
Speaker 1: I'll did anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 2: Oh a yeah, shout out to all the people who
Speaker 2: like my music. I'll love you forever, reyally like make
Speaker 2: everything possible. It's a it makes some emotional thinking about it,
Speaker 2: just like that I was doing this since I've been eleven,
Speaker 2: and now I'm like, and now it's my life. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: We truly live in h in a matrix of some kind.
Speaker 2: Right right. I feel like, you know, maybe this is
Speaker 2: like my maybe this is like my tenth life. You
Speaker 2: know I got it right, Maybe I got it right
Speaker 2: to an extent this time.
Speaker 1: I'll say this all that I hope that in every
Speaker 1: you know, what is it in? What's that scene in
Speaker 1: uh endgame and game where Doctor Strange is like I
Speaker 1: ran through.
Speaker 2: I was into it, Like Marvel.
Speaker 1: There's some fucking scene in one of the Avengers movies
Speaker 1: where doctor Strange is like, I ran through nine million
Speaker 1: different simulations and there's only one where we win, or
Speaker 1: something like that. But I hope in all ten million
Speaker 1: Alden lives there is a moment where we are sitting
Speaker 1: here in Gecko suits. Hell yeah, hanging out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it happens every time. Maybe.
Speaker 1: Aldon, thank you very much for calling on the show.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. You mu