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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, this is an extra little episode this week

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Speaker 1: where I chat with the rising indie pop star Alden.

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Speaker 1: If you enjoyed our conversation and you want to check

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Speaker 1: out more of Alden's music, I've put his links in

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Speaker 1: the episode description and without further ado, let's get into it. Alden,

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Speaker 1: how's it going. What's been the most persistent thought on

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Speaker 1: your mind lately?

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Speaker 2: Most persistent thought? Mama, honestly, what happens when I die?

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Speaker 1: Are you serious?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Really? Yeah, That's what I just want to talk about

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Speaker 1: on here all the time. I talk about it on

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Speaker 1: here so much that people are starting to get really

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Speaker 1: annoyed really with me? Yeah, are you being serious? Do

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Speaker 1: you think of that?

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Speaker 2: I do think about that a lot.

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Speaker 1: Tell me how that thought was going for you?

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Speaker 2: I think about it like I really hope that I

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Speaker 2: like restart, I get to restart and play the game

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Speaker 2: again in the same life.

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Speaker 1: In the same light.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So does that mean that you are yourself again?

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Speaker 2: I'm still all there?

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Speaker 1: And are you playing out deterministically all the same exact

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Speaker 1: events of life again? So you're born as you're born

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Speaker 1: to the same parents and the same location, Yet.

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Speaker 2: My choices are like you know, I make a small

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Speaker 2: little choice right here and changes my whole trajectory.

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Speaker 1: I like this because this is a very I got.

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Speaker 1: I get lost in like deterministic philosophy, a lot of

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Speaker 1: like where you are and who you're born to and

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Speaker 1: everything that like influences your choices. I like this idea

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Speaker 1: that you have so much free will that you would

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Speaker 1: go back and you could even make different choices.

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Speaker 2: I also kind of like I like the idea of like,

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Speaker 2: you know, you go through that cycle. I don't remember

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Speaker 2: what religion kind of you know this like practices this

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Speaker 2: or like talks about this, but you go through the

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Speaker 2: cycle until you are ready to ascend to a higher level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, what do you think is necessary to ascend?

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's just like inner peace, like just

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Speaker 2: being content with life.

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Speaker 1: Do you have in mind alternative choices you would make

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Speaker 1: if you were reborn to be Alden again? M hmmm.

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Speaker 2: I would still I would always make music. I think

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Speaker 2: in every lifetime I would make music because it's just

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Speaker 2: like I was attracted to it from such a young age.

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Speaker 2: My older brother got me into it and I just

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Speaker 2: like stuck with it from since I was like eleven

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Speaker 2: or something.

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Speaker 1: So, so what you would want to happen is that

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Speaker 1: you become you relive the same life as yourself. What

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Speaker 1: do you think happens?

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Speaker 2: But I would think.

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Speaker 1: Is nothing.

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Speaker 2: No, I would want it, like you know, I would

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Speaker 2: want to like mess around and like take some different

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Speaker 2: steps in my life, you know, like, Okay, see what

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Speaker 2: happens if I moved to because like I moved to

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Speaker 2: New York first, right, yeah, and then I moved to LA.

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Speaker 2: But what if I moved to LA first and then

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Speaker 2: New York?

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Speaker 1: Really, so that's it. You wouldn't be like I mean

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Speaker 1: those you wouldn't be like, let me move to Ghana

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Speaker 1: or something. You wouldn't like do do something totally out

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Speaker 2: It could have been like even like you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: like I like my other life is like a granola guy,

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Speaker 2: like and I got like a like a van. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you know driving around the United States just in

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Speaker 2: the van. I could see myself doing that too, you know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I could see a lot of different paths.

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Speaker 2: I want to farm.

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Speaker 1: You know, do you want to farm?

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Speaker 2: I do want to farm.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, what do you have on your farm?

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Speaker 2: Definitely horses and cows. I'm not a big fan of chickens,

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Speaker 2: just because they're shaped at like a little strange to me.

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Speaker 2: I don't like the feet of a chicken, unfortunately, but

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Speaker 2: I like eggs, so maybe I'll have chickens.

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Speaker 1: Would you, uh, would you not get bored on a far?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're a you're you're you're touring right, you're

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Speaker 1: rocking and rolling, you're hanging out with people, You're in Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: your Hollywood life, whatever are you? You wouldn't get bored

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Speaker 2: No? Because the thing is, I do not go out.

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Speaker 2: I don't do anything really. I just like I'm in

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Speaker 2: the studio every day and I'm playing Fortnite at playing

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Speaker 2: video games every day.

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Speaker 1: Are you homebody?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Have you always been a homebody? Or did you have

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Speaker 2: I had a time? Okay, I had a time. I

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Speaker 2: went to Uh, I went to the school and uh

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Speaker 2: Southern Virginia and Richmond Virginia VCU and uh that was

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Speaker 2: like my time to like go out and be like

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Speaker 2: twenty one year old.

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Speaker 1: What was the place school? What was it called?

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Speaker 2: Commonwealthy University?

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Speaker 1: Is that like known to be a party school?

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily, but it's more more so known to be

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Speaker 2: like an artsy school. Okay, so there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: really cool types of people, So it's really fun to

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Speaker 2: go out there to like the bars and stuff. Because

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Speaker 2: I was just telling you about the Guar Bar. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's all gar themed. It's insane.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was that popular with college kids.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean it was just a cool bar.

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Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of college kids knew about Guar,

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Speaker 2: but they the bar itself just looked sick. They had

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Speaker 2: like these like Halloween costumes everywhere. Pretty sure it's still there.

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Speaker 2: If anybody's in Richmond, go to the gar Bar.

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Speaker 1: So do you remember was there a specific night out

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Speaker 1: where you were like, this is gonna be the finale

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Speaker 1: of my career or was it just a natural I

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Speaker 1: don't really want to do this.

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Speaker 2: Anymore finalely my career of going out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Mmmm, that's a good question, because I was going out

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Speaker 2: a little bit when I first moved to New York.

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Speaker 2: I was having fun, but it just became kind of

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Speaker 2: like repetitive. And then I became a homebody in New

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Speaker 2: York in a little box. Yeah, and it was like

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Speaker 2: really depressing and I couldn't handle the winter anymore, Like

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Speaker 2: the winter in New York.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but the way the winter's good because it

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Speaker 1: puts markings upon your life.

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Speaker 2: That is very true. That's like something I've noticed about

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Speaker 2: living in LA is like, you know, having the sun

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Speaker 2: every day can kind of get exhausting. Yeah, especially coming

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Speaker 2: from the East Coast. I'm used to all four seasons,

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Speaker 2: so I missed the season sometimes. But right now, I

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Speaker 2: mean I've been in la for yeah, a year and

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Speaker 1: Are you thinking you'll stay there, like long term?

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely not long term. I think I think I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna I want to buy a house in Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Okay, then that's where you're from, right, Yeah, that's where

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Speaker 1: I'm from. Would you buy one near your parents?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably somewhere in the vicinity of my parents school.

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Speaker 1: Are you still like friends with the homies from high school?

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Speaker 1: Middle school? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: They all they're all down in Richmond, like we all

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Speaker 2: kind of uh. We all graduated from the same high school,

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Speaker 2: all went to the same college. It was a blast.

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Speaker 2: We were all on the same dorm floor.

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Speaker 1: Are they excited by your your musical career or do

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Speaker 1: they just know you as like you're just alt them.

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Speaker 2: They I mean, when I'm with them, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's like, you know, nothing, no time has passed.

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Speaker 2: Because I don't see them very often. I miss them

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Speaker 2: all the time, but when I see them, it's like

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Speaker 2: no time has passed. And I just did a show

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Speaker 2: in DC, which is, you know, really close to just

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Speaker 2: Virginia and Southern Virginia and everything. So all of my

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Speaker 2: friends came up. Oh n family, it was a beautiful time.

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Speaker 1: What were you like in high school?

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Speaker 2: I was like in so me and my friends who

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Speaker 2: were like from the outside, everybody saw us as like

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Speaker 2: the stoner kids. Yeah yeah, yeah, but I did not

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Speaker 2: smoke weed or drink or nothing really in high school.

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Speaker 1: And you're sober now right.

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Speaker 2: I'm so well, I would say, I'm California.

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Speaker 1: So California, so real. Yeah yeah, so and you're twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. Yeah, and okay, so you had like a

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Speaker 1: little tiny window where you were doing that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like what do you mean, like well.

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Speaker 1: Because if you weren't doing in high school, you're it was.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, it was. It was like a college

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Speaker 2: It kind of rapidly progressed in a in a way,

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Speaker 2: So I mean I could go into that if you are,

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Speaker 2: we can't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, oh, actually I want to well I want

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Speaker 1: to know this first week we can hold onto that. Well,

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Speaker 1: I want to know this because you said that your

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Speaker 1: friends or like that people saw you guys as like

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Speaker 1: the stoner kids, but you didn't even smoke weed at

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Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, which is funny because I think there's

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Speaker 1: a lot And I was a little bit like that too,

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Speaker 1: that too, but except I actually did smoke weed, So

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Speaker 1: they were right.

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Speaker 2: I mean my friends, some of them did smoke a

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Speaker 2: lot of weed, yea. And sometimes they would smoke weed

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Speaker 2: in the back of class too.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, you that level of stoner do you have because

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Speaker 1: you have you have like a cool Do you have

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Speaker 1: like a cool demeanor? Do you have you where you

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Speaker 1: liked that in high school, like you had this kind

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Speaker 1: there's no possible way that you could be that cool

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Speaker 2: At I guess.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've always been into like fashion and stuff

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Speaker 2: like uh, and I've I grew up skateboarding a lot,

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Speaker 2: so I was very much a part of like the

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Speaker 2: skate culture and skate fashion and stuff, which is very

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Speaker 2: synonymous with stoner culture.

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Speaker 1: Important question. Yeah Tony Hawk or skate skate so much

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Speaker 1: better than Tony Hawk. Yeah, no offense to the Tony

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Speaker 1: Hawk games, the.

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Speaker 2: Important they were classic. Yeah, yeah, but you've seen Skate four.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little upset about Skate four.

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Speaker 1: Bro It, I'm over it. I mean it's been well.

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Speaker 1: I think the Skate three came out in twenty ten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all they need. I mean the skateboard is

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Speaker 2: like all cartoony it is. I haven't did they release

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Speaker 2: any footage of it? Yeah, they've been like rolling out

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Speaker 2: like play tests and stuff, and it just doesn't feel

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Speaker 2: like a classic skate game.

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Speaker 1: Do you still skateboard?

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Speaker 2: I do, yeah occasionally.

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Speaker 1: How like are you are you nice? Can you like?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could hit like I could probably hit a

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Speaker 2: tray flip.

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Speaker 1: You can hit a tray flip? Yeah, that's so cool.

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Speaker 2: That's like my best trick though.

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Speaker 1: Did when you were skateboarding in high school? Did that?

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Speaker 1: Do you are you? Do you are you happy? Do

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Speaker 2: It was like because my tolerance is so high. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you do you like talk about this stuff

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Speaker 1: Do you respond to those dms ever? Yeah? OK, because

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Speaker 1: What was that? Like?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, it was a blast. I had so much fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like it was like summer camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it sounds like I went, uh August of twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: Cool.

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Speaker 2: I actually recorded like a EP in my little room

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Speaker 2: And just like I had, I was allowed to have

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Speaker 1: Do you start to give me anyone in rehab that

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Speaker 2: to have been able to be in you know, my parents'

446
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: house like under a roof safe, like you know, like

447
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: if I probably wouldn't have been able to overdose because

448
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 2: I had, like my girlfriend at the time aramatic girlfriend

449
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: at the time, and but you know, these other people

450
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 2: that I met there were like older, like they would

451
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: be like, you know, like a foty year old dude

452
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: or something, and he's just on his own. Yeah, no,

453
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 2: nobody in his life.

454
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, and.

455
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 2: That's like that like seeing that made me realize, like,

456
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: what the fuck am I doing?

457
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a I feel like that's

458
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: one of the other things about getting older is like

459
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: you kind of you realize all that like once, because

460
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: when you're young and you grow up, you almost have

461
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: you have blinders on, right, you only have access to

462
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: your life experience and the life experience of the people

463
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: directly around you, which it happened typically is very similar

464
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: to yours. And then you get older and then you're like,

465
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: oh shit, not everyone you know has a like you know,

466
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 1: two functional parents, you know, yeah, like you know, lives,

467
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: grew up in a house, you know.

468
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's like that's I don't know, that's

469
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: a part of the life. You just kind of like,

470
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 2: that's that's what that kind of circles back to the

471
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: like reliving your life. I feel like you learn more

472
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: and more and more every time you cycle through your life.

473
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: Every time you die, you wake up as your baby again,

474
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: and you you go through and you learn new lessons.

475
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: You are Rick and Morty.

476
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: I I like, I like a little bit of.

477
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: Do you know like Roy you know I'm talking about

478
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: Like Okay, so you know the wreckon Morny episode they

479
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: go to like this like Alien Arcade and they play

480
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: this game called.

481
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 2: Where Yeah, where he's stuck in the game for like

482
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 2: a lifetime.

483
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it kind of reminds me of that, like

484
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: that Keep your Life is Roy, We're all.

485
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: Exactly Roy exactly. Yeah, It's like that. That's how I

486
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 2: I honestly feel like that's kind of what it is. Like.

487
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 2: You die, you go up, but you get to see

488
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: your recap, your life recap. You get to see where

489
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: you fucked up, you know, you get to see where

490
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 2: you did something right. You go back down. You don't

491
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: have much memory of it, but it's intuition that stays,

492
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 2: you know, because like where does that come from? The

493
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: intuition like like a gut feeling telling you not to

494
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: do something?

495
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I got Oh that's an interesting idea. Is

496
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: is intuition a lesson you learned that's very that's very

497
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: that's very woo. Yeah. The idea that intuition is like

498
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: a lesson you learned in the past life.

499
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: That's the way I like to think about it.

500
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: Yea, what do you do you so you're always going

501
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: to be human? Would you could you be like a

502
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: different m this species?

503
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: Honestly? Mm hmm. I don't know if I don't know

504
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: if I could, I don't know if I want to

505
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: be another species? Yeah, it would suck, yeah, just because

506
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: they it's just survival for other species. We like get

507
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: to do this type of thing.

508
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: It's true.

509
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: We get to dress up other species exactly.

510
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. M hmmm. So what's your relationship like with your

511
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: parents now? Are you guys cool?

512
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? We're great.

513
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

514
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: My my parents are very supportive of like what I do,

515
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: and they're always there for me, which is very sweet

516
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: and like always. I try to go back to Virginia

517
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: as much as I can, but I need to go

518
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: back more definitely.

519
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: What's the most fun thing to do in Richmond, Virginia?

520
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: In Richmond, this is that where you're from Richmond. I'm

521
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: from Northern Virginia, Non Virginia.

522
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: Went to school in Richmond.

523
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: What's the most fun thing to do in Northern Virginia.

524
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: Most fun thing to do in Northern Virginia. Okay, this

525
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: is a this is a very specific thing to me

526
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: and my friends. But the what we would do for

527
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: fun is we would break into our high school football

528
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: stadium and we'd burn these CDs, hour long CDs of

529
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: like just so like crazy frog, like just stupid dumbass songs.

530
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah what accel? Yeah, yeah, just the most stupid songs,

531
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: and then put it in the player, crank the volume

532
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: up is like two am, right, cranked the volume up,

533
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: play it and just run and.

534
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: We hear it. Oh ship, Like okay, you broke into

535
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: the like the a V of the stadium. Yeah yeah,

536
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: that's yeah. We like in the middle of the night,

537
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: in the middle of all the way we would go.

538
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we would going the CD. We'd like we'd put

539
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 2: a design on the CD for whoever finds it, like

540
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: the security guard it finds it.

541
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: Don't get caught doing that.

542
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 2: No, And we did it like five or six times.

543
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: We'd also you know, uh, like attached to the football

544
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: stadium was also the snack room, and we would just

545
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: ravenged the snack room.

546
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: Dude, that's so how easy? What was the what was

547
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: the security flaw in the football stadium?

548
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, we were we were kids, Like I

549
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: think the flaw actually was one of the doors was

550
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: just left unlocked, and so it's on them. It's on

551
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: them for doing living in unlocked.

552
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: You seem like you were into Uh are you familiar

553
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: with the term urbex like urban exploring? Yeah?

554
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love that shit.

555
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah do you ever do you have any good finds

556
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 1: that you remember growing up?

557
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: I mean where I grew up, there was not much

558
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: like abandoned stuff, So I feel like the urbex we

559
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: would do would be like like climbing on top of

560
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: my school or something. Yeah, Like we had like this

561
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: shopping center near my house that we would like find

562
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: ways to like climb on top of it, and like

563
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: there was like glass.

564
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: Off you remember you remember planking?

565
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course there was.

566
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: Just there was this thing called owling where we go

567
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: to a high place, go to a high place and

568
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: you do a little like owl pretty much is doing that.

569
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

570
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got kicked out of j CC's uh summer

571
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: camp for owl for owling. Yeah, I get kicked out

572
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: and I got like suspended for a few days.

573
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: So owling is is illegal, is what you're telling me.

574
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not cool. You know. Like if I

575
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: if I were I mean I was probably like twelve,

576
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: and if I were like a real adult and I

577
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: saw a twelve year old on the top of a building, yeah,

578
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: like just fucking like true, I would be like that

579
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: is so knock. I would freak the fuck out that

580
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: I would scream at them.

581
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to see like an adult man

582
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: do it, though, well a.

583
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: Lot of adult a lot of adults do it. And

584
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: then they jump off. They just jump off, They just

585
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: jump off. Yeah, but yeah, you know, I.

586
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: Think do they who?

587
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: At least do they who?

588
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

589
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. You gotta get one last. If you're

590
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: gonna jump off a building, you gotta get one last.

591
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: If you're owling that hard, Yeah, you gotta get one

592
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: last food like who?

593
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think if you're gonna owl yourself to death.

594
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: Find words on the stone. Who is it? Whot or who?

595
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: I guess it's a whot, you know what. I think

596
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: it's phonetically it's a hoot. Yeah, but the just the spell,

597
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: the if you're just doing the sound. Yeah, Hey, you

598
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: want to answer some questions. So uh all right, so

599
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: so okay, so for some context, you posted sometimes we

600
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: do phone calls on this, but today I was like,

601
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: I think it's better we just do a little bit

602
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: of a We just read viewer questions. I got a

603
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: little bit of viewer mail. I sometimes read my viewer mail.

604
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: You made an Instagram story thing and you collected some

605
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: questions from your Instagram viewers. Yeah, I compiled over here.

606
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: I love them.

607
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's see. Do you have a name for

608
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: your fans.

609
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: I don't, but they have called themselves Aldians at one

610
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: point audience. Yeah, but I feel like that one fizzled out.

611
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: Now they're like now they call me like father strong

612
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: father strong.

613
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what a strong?

614
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: So strung out Symphony is like the name of my album.

615
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: It comes out October third, but it's also more than

616
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: just an album. It's like I wanted to be a brand.

617
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: I want it to be everything.

618
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah cool? What about like your audience?

619
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: What about them? No? Like, I mean like as like

620
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: a name, like keeping the name of audience.

621
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: Or no like no? Oh wait, Alldians are like like,

622
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, like you have an audience, you have an

623
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: audience audience.

624
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: Oh, that's what you're saying. Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty good.

625
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah you can, Yeah you can.

626
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: I'll take that.

627
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: You can have that, all right. So this is from Julia.

628
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: She said, are you team Conrad or Team Jeremiah? What

629
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: the fuck is that? Okay? I was wondering if you

630
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: would know what that? I just about this?

631
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: Okay, what is it?

632
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: There's just there's this show called The Summer I turned

633
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: pretty okay, and uh, it's very popular and I think

634
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: it's about a girl who has to choose between this

635
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: guy Conrad.

636
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: Is it reality TV?

637
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: No, it's like a it's like a scripted thing and

638
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: it's like it's like the it's like the the this

639
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: Generation's Team Edward Team Jacob. No way, Yeah, somebody I

640
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: literally just I met someone. She introduced me to the

641
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: the show and she was like, are you team Conrad

642
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: or Team Jeremiah? And I and I was like, I

643
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: don't know what that is? And she was like, just answer.

644
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: I feel like UNK. I feel like you know what?

645
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: No, what is? What is? I don't know any I

646
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, Well, okay, this is a good exchange

647
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: of ideas.

648
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: Unk is like a term that younger people are using See. No,

649
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: I'm I'm making myself sound even more like an unk.

650
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: But it's a term is like a cool boomer.

651
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: It's like no, it's like yeah, it's just like the

652
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: older someone older than you, like, it's like what fifteen

653
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: year olds call twenty one plus year olds like, oh, okay,

654
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: mid twenties, you're if you're in your twenties.

655
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: Now, are you team Conrad or team Jeremiah.

656
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Jeremiah just because of

657
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 2: the name.

658
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, I only I watched a little bit of

659
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: the show. I like Jeremiah better than Conrad. Okay, so

660
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: I think you picked right. All right, thanks for asking this, Julia. Okay.

661
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: Max Pilled said, do you miss New York City?

662
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: Oh that's my neighbor. That was my neighbor. Oh shit, yeah,

663
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: I think I read that one.

664
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: Well, this is your neighbor.

665
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he was. He was my neighbor when I

666
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: lived in the Lower East Side. I think there was

667
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: more to his question. He said something like like, and

668
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: was I your favorite neighbor or why was I your

669
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: favorite neighbor? Baby? But he was just this chill ass dude,

670
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: and uh, I would just see him, like, you know,

671
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: once a month. Chill ass guy. But I don't really

672
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: miss New York, can't lie?

673
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: Do you miss him? Yeah?

674
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I miss him. I would say I'm missing.

675
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: That's why don't you miss New York?

676
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: Just too like stressful and like fast.

677
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, yeah, you can definitely springs spread

678
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: your legs out a little bit more. In Los Angeles.

679
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I just bought a BMW. I'm

680
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: two forty.

681
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: You bought a BMW? Yeah, okay, pretty good.

682
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: I'm I love the highways there when there's no traffic.

683
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: Uh boo Zang said, can you describe a day in

684
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: the life of a few of a future version of

685
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: you that has everything you want?

686
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: M m man, I want I want a gold plaque,

687
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: and well, I guess, okay, I guess it'll be a

688
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: day in life, right.

689
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

690
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: So I want my house in Virginia. I wanted to

691
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: be tucked away in the woods.

692
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: You know.

693
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: I wake up, I will walk to like a coffee shop,

694
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: come back to my house and maybe I have like

695
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 2: a trad wife there.

696
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: Cool.

697
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she cooks me. Maybe she cooks me some

698
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 2: food or something. And then I you know, like maybe

699
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: I have a studio in the in the house, and

700
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: I just like hang out in the studio and play

701
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 2: video games and make music and what else. Maybe I'm

702
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: just such a homebody that I like, I don't. I

703
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: don't want to go out. I don't want to eat out,

704
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: like I want to order my uber eats everything.

705
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: Do you cook or do you uber eats over?

706
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: I can't cook it.

707
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: I can't cook it. Yeah, I can't cook. I don't

708
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: have I'm a word in my apartment right now. I

709
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: don't have a fucking Uh. I have a stove. Yeah,

710
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: it's got boxes on it on yeah, stove top.

711
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little bit of a hazard. I would say,

712
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: oh ship really nah, Well maybe I don't.

713
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: No, it's actually good you brought that.

714
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: Do you have a cat in here?

715
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: I don't have any? No, Okay, I'm the only living

716
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: thing that good exists here.

717
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: Because we have a cat, me and my friend. Uh.

718
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: And one time the cat jumped onto the oven and

719
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: turned on Jesus cracking flame okay, and the whole house

720
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: smelled like propane.

721
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: It was really fucking god.

722
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: It was left on for probably like thirty minutes.

723
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Speaker 1: Dude. See, this is why I don't want to have.

724
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes people will say to me, like, oh, you should

725
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: get a lizard, like they'd be cute, and I'm like,

726
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: I don't want anything in my house that's.

727
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: Alive, and like you got to travel too. Yeah, that's

728
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: a big part, like with us having the cat, you.

729
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: Know, like you're you're running around.

730
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: We have to, Yeah, we have to, and we have

731
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: to figure out someone to watch the cat. Yeah, yeah,

732
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: we have.

733
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: Cats are self sufficient. The cats can just run around.

734
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: Cats don't really need a person, like a dog is

735
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: kind of kind of too dumb to survive on its own.

736
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: Dog needs like all the attention. Yeah, but cats, Yeah,

737
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: they're very low a maintenance, which is nice. We just

738
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Speaker 2: got an auto feeder for the cat, which is good.

739
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. Yeah, that's nice. Was he just like

740
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: wave his cat pop?

741
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I haven't seen it yet. I

742
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: think it's like on a timer. It's like the dinner time.

743
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: He probably waits by it at He probably has learned

744
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: by now actually to get into the box without it dispensing.

745
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: Because this cat we found on the street and he

746
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: was the tiniest little baby, but somehow he was surviving

747
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 2: and now in the house. If we leave a single

748
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: snack out bag of chips, hot cheetos, anything he likes,

749
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: spicy shit, he'll demolish it. He'll eat a full bag

750
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: of talkies.

751
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little Garfield running around.

752
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's crazy. I've never seen a cat eat

753
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: like spicy food.

754
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: You say you play video games. Yeah, we were talking earlier.

755
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: You saw I got the switch too. You got switch too?

756
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the switch.

757
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: You said you said you play you we were talking earlier.

758
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: You said you're playing Cyberpunk on it. Yeah.

759
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm playing Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven.

760
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: Are you playing anything else on there?

761
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: I've been cycling through Cyberpunk? What else?

762
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: Uh?

763
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: Dying Light? Oh, that's on the switch, Yeah, it is

764
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 2: on the switch.

765
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: Oh shit, it's like, what is that again?

766
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: It's like the Parker Zombie game. Okay, yeah, it's sick

767
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: all right, Dying Light Mario Kart World, which that just

768
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: came out for the Switch too. Yeah, I want to

769
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: play I want to play the New Donkey Kong New Rocks.

770
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah that because I've been like, I like cycling between

771
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: like five different games. Fortnite.

772
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: Also, I've never never played Fortnite, but I Also, I

773
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: cycle through games I love, I have huge fucking like

774
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: it's a great it's a big ADHD thing. I like

775
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: love playing five different at once.

776
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And I have to, like you know, I

777
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: have to like space them apart evenly so that I

778
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: don't forget how to play one of the games.

779
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: Can we talk about this real quick. I don't know

780
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: what your feelings are, but the new Mario Kart is

781
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: severely disappointing to me. I agree, you do, okay, cool,

782
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not crazy. It's a it's extremely disappointing game.

783
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah I was.

784
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Speaker 2: I mean, like, I guess the open world is whatever, Like.

785
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a it's I mean, you know,

786
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: you're playing cyberpunk right like, like it's that's an open world.

787
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: It's got people in characters. The Mario Kart world is barren,

788
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: it's empty.

789
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: Nobody uses the open world feature because like, what are

790
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: you doing it?

791
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: And then they like Mario Kart Deluxe. It has all

792
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: the cool characters. That's got the animal crossing eys, got

793
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: fucking link you know.

794
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: You know what I hate the most about Mark Car

795
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: World is that you can't customize the cars anymore like

796
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: wheels body Glider.

797
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: Right, you know you just pick a full car.

798
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I hate why.

799
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: It's a step back in the series.

800
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: Why would they do that? All right, the worst decision. Honestly,

801
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 2: Nintendo is known for doing that that type of shit.

802
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: Let's see here. Somebody asked what got you through life's difficulties?

803
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: That's from Emma Walrave.

804
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: Always music, Always music. Yeah, I feel like I'm not

805
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: getting like talking about my feelings like to a person,

806
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: or it's not not very cathartic for me. I've like

807
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 2: it done like therapy or whatever in the past, and

808
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: it's like I feel like I just for me to

809
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: like get through something, I have to do it alone.

810
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: Do you are so do you go to therapy?

811
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: No?

812
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Actually, what is it you didn't like about therapy?

813
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: When you were going, I felt like I just couldn't

814
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: get past the idea that, oh, I'm paying this person

815
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: to listen to me, right, you know what I mean?

816
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

817
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: I like psychiatrists because they prescribe you medication. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah,

818
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: they're cool and they're just like straight to the point.

819
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. But therapists like to bat you around a little bit.

820
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I will say I haven't like really given

821
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: therapy like a full, like full, like year long run.

822
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I feel like it could be

823
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: helpful if I've really committed to it.

824
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: That's what That's kind of where I'm at right now

825
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: is I feel like I always go. I get frustrated

826
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: with it after like a few sessions, and I'm like, fuck,

827
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: this is stupid.

828
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you're a therapist yourself.

829
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm like, I don't even know why I said. Yeah,

830
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm not a therapist at all. I'm an insane person.

831
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: But I you know, it's funny because I mean, yeah,

832
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: I do do like a therapy E E E podcast,

833
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: But uh.

834
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: I will say, this conversation is a little cathartic.

835
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: I like, okay, good.

836
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: Talking about just random stuff.

837
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is your first You said this is your

838
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: first podcast.

839
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, like form kind of thing. Yeah.

840
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's fun to just talk. It is in

841
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: gecko suits.

842
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: It is fun.

843
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: Okay. Someone said, uh, what is your songwriting process look like?

844
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So, since I I like to since i'd like

845
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 2: to produce everything myself, I always start with the production

846
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: and I usually will start with like either guitar or drums,

847
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: and then I'll build a melody out of like a

848
00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 2: synth or something, and I'll I'll immediately start vocals over

849
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: just like the bass melody and like some maybe some

850
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: drums super simple, just do like little four bars and

851
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: then I kind of like keep building it out in

852
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 2: little increments like that.

853
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: You know.

854
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: I don't record like the whole song in one go,

855
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: Like I don't make the beat first and then go

856
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: and record the vocals all in one go. I like

857
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: to make the beat as I'm recording the vocals. That way,

858
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: I structure the beat around my vocals.

859
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so you do you you do the vocals first

860
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: and then do the beat.

861
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: Kind of it's a it's like a two that's at

862
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 2: the same time.

863
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: And so it's almost like if a rapper like rapped

864
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: and then it was like, Okay, now put a beat

865
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: over this rap.

866
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: Kind of it kind of it's it's like it's like

867
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: I'll lay down the synth line and I'll do a

868
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: little vocal melody over it, and then I'll do the bass,

869
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: and then I'll move to the next section. I'll do

870
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: the drums there and then more vocals there.

871
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: So what's the name of the this is strung Out Symphony.

872
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: That's the name of the new album. One of the

873
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: songs about.

874
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: Just my life. There. Like I said earlier, it's like

875
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: music is my main like way of like getting out

876
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: feelings and stuff. So it's very personal. And I like

877
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: my songs to be like really just like I don't

878
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: know therefore myself. And if people can relate, that's beautiful

879
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: m hm. And usually people do relate, which is which

880
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: I love.

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00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: Someone said, uh, Andrew Dreu Drew Andrea you. Andrea says,

882
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: what would you both do if you encountered clones of yourselves?

883
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: I'll let you go first. What would you do to

884
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: encounter a clone of yourself? Oh? Here you go, you

885
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: go ahead. And I was going to bring up a thing.

886
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: You wait, you go first. I want to know what

887
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: you and I.

888
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: Was gonna give my answer. I was gonna bring up

889
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: a thing. A lot of people or not a lot

890
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: of people. I read this article a long time ago,

891
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: maybe ten years ago, that if you encounter a clone

892
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: of yourself, the main two Jullie, I already know the

893
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: main two things you could do with that clone is

894
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: you could either fight yourself or have sex with yourself.

895
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. The first thing that came to mind, is have

896
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: sex with myself.

897
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's not gay, it's not not not that

898
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: that's bad, it's well, okay.

899
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: So the incest.

900
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's interest. I don't think it's

901
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: that much different from masturbation. Right, although, here's the thing

902
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: about having sex with yourself, is that uh well, I

903
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: remember I remember reading this article a long time ago

904
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: of like making the of a guy was making a

905
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: case of as to why you want to fuck his

906
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: own clone, and the idea being that you know your

907
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: clone would would know everything that you're into sexually. It'd

908
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: be the most it would be. It would be deeply,

909
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: deeply compatible with your body because it's you. But I

910
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: don't know, I think i'd be if, I think I'd

911
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: be grotesque. I agree, it would be disgusted by my

912
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: own body if I was having sex with myself, I agree.

913
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd want to fight myself either,

914
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't know.

915
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see the point in fighting myself. I

916
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: feel like we would work together to do something, Like

917
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 2: i'd i'd just be in two places at one time. Yeah,

918
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: I like that, Yeah, like I would. I would, I

919
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: would turn it into a utility. You know, we'd because

920
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: like I like being at home so much that I

921
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 2: could send my clone out to go do this thing

922
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: for me, and then he could swap out. We just

923
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: go back and forth. M yeah no, and like just

924
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: I could take the workload off a little bit.

925
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm really picturing being with a clone on myself.

926
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: I think it would creep me out. I probably tell

927
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: him to fuck off, Yeah, go somewhere.

928
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: Okay, But what do you do when he fucks off

929
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: and he like just wreaks havoc and it's you.

930
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 1: He probably wouldn't reak havoc though, because it would still

931
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: be me, and so he would still be conscientious enough

932
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: to not want to like go kill people.

933
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: And what's stop the clone from feeling like he's the

934
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 2: main one?

935
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: If he if the clone does feel like he's the

936
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: main one, then he might kill you. Oh he might

937
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: kill me. Yeah, yeah, Oh I have to kill him.

938
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: That's what I would do with my clone. Would kill him.

939
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: You might have to kill him first, because then something

940
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: bad he could happens.

941
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: My answer, I'd have sex with him and then I'd

942
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: kill him. Oh okay, yeah, okay, in that order, in

943
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: that order.

944
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: It's dark.

945
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: What are your favorite moments with other artists while touring?

946
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: Oh, honestly, best moments were touring with my good friend Glave.

947
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: I've been on two tours with him.

948
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: Cool.

949
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: And first tour we did was my very first tour,

950
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: and we got the whole like, you know, we got

951
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 2: a whole tour bus and everything, and it was just

952
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: so much fun, like hanging out on the tour bus

953
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: and fucking around the whole time and sleeping in these

954
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: little like stasis chambers. You like these these little bunks

955
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: in the bus and you just like go to sleep

956
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: and you wake, you just teleport to the next city

957
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 2: and you just like yet all this time in the

958
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: day to walk around the city and explore.

959
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: So you're a homebody.

960
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

961
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: Do you like touring?

962
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: I love touring.

963
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. How many tours have you been on?

964
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: Uh? I think four?

965
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: Cool?

966
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

967
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: Cool? What do you have a favorite city that you

968
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: like to tour? U?

969
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: La and New York? Oh is the best?

970
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: Cool? Yeah? What have you?

971
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: So?

972
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: You did your show last night here?

973
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

974
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: And I had to go. I went so, well that's awesome.

975
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just like I just like just do my

976
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 2: own thing on stage. I don't care about what anybody

977
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: is like paying attention to I just do I just

978
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: have fun on that stage.

979
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you ever had a show where you were like,

980
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if I felt good about this one?

981
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: Oh dude. Literally two days ago we played Boston and

982
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: we get there and we have soundcheck and they're like, oh,

983
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: by the way, you have two minutes to soundcheck. And

984
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: we didn't have our main m D who is the

985
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: music director who sets everything up for us, all the

986
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: cables and stuff, and we're over here trying to fgure

987
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: out how the fuck to like plugging these cables and

988
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: grout everything to the to the venue and it's like,

989
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: you know, it's coming up on one minute thirty seconds.

990
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, you're your sh it's not working. We're

991
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 2: gonna have to do no. You know, I'm You're not

992
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 2: gonna be able to hear your vocals in your ears.

993
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 2: Normally I have in ears where I can hear my vocals,

994
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: but that show, I wasn't able to hear my own vocals.

995
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: So I was just free balling it, just like singing,

996
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: singing my little heart up. And it's still even though

997
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: it like the ship got fucked up, and like like

998
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: halfway through the set, like all the everything stopped, like

999
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 2: everything shut off for some reason, like all the music

1000
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 2: cut out for a second. Even though there were like

1001
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: fuck ups, it was still a good time.

1002
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, too minute sound checks is? Uh? Is tough?

1003
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean that's the treatment you get when

1004
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: you're opening for other artists.

1005
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: Have you have you the headline tour?

1006
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1007
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: Nice? How how was how was your headline?

1008
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: It was beautiful? Then you know, they bring you cookies instead.

1009
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: They treat you like a god at the venues, but

1010
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: when you're opening, they're like, they're like, just set your

1011
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: shut up and go just you're good to go, get

1012
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: off stage, and they don't care because they the priority.

1013
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: Is of course, of course, of course. So what's the

1014
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: future looking like for mister Alden? What do you? I know?

1015
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: You have an album coming out on the third of October.

1016
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: What's it called again, The Strung Out Symphony? It is

1017
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: about your life?

1018
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, exactly.

1019
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: Are you gonna tour the album?

1020
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, yeah, And I wanna I want to do

1021
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: like a europe tour. I wanna. I've not never done

1022
00:52:54,960 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 2: anything like uh, I've only been to Paris to model

1023
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: for Selene.

1024
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: You modeled for Selene. Who wait, who's Selene?

1025
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: Celene is a brand?

1026
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but what was it like being It wasn't

1027
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: like modeling in Paris.

1028
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: It was really sick at first, and then there were

1029
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 2: riots in Paris at the time. Oh so the show

1030
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 2: got canceled. I wasn't able to walk.

1031
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: Oh you couldn't walk the runway. So are you do you? Like,

1032
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: do you do a lot of model stuff?

1033
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: No, not, not that often. It's like a secondary thing

1034
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: that it like, it's like a cool opportunity presents itself.

1035
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: I'll take it. Like the Selene thing is really cool

1036
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: because I really like like the like Selene clothes, like

1037
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: Hetty Samaine stuff, But it's it's not like my favorite

1038
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: thing to do.

1039
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 1: So, uh, you got the album coming out. What's anything

1040
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: else up in the future for your life.

1041
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 2: After the album comes out? I want to I wanna.

1042
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 2: I want to start a band with my friend Gabe.

1043
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: That's one thing, and like, you know, have this whole

1044
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: another side project. And I want to like stay independent

1045
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: for a little while. I'm with the label right now,

1046
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: which is super cool, but I I miss being independent

1047
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 2: sometimes just purely for the like freedom of being able

1048
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: to drop a song on a random Wednesday.

1049
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 1: When yeah, sure, yeah, sure, sure so sure. M hm hmm.

1050
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think I was of of what else

1051
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you? Hmm. Oh here, let

1052
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: me look at let me look at these questions real quick.

1053
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: I'll see if we have any more questions. Oh s,

1054
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: I gotta plug in my computer. This is a very

1055
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: important part of the podcast. You gotta you gotta plug

1056
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: in the computer sometimes. Okay, sick. Wait, yeah, because you

1057
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: know the computer is how if there was no computer,

1058
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: we would just be yeah, we were talking to the

1059
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: earth dream all right, Oh uh, okay, we have we

1060
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: have one more questions. This is from Ari Morole. Do

1061
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: you feel as though you've accomplished most of your goals? Hey,

1062
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: what's left to accomplish all of them?

1063
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: I have so many goals. I mean, I want, I

1064
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 2: want gold records, I want I want to play an arena.

1065
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: I want to do big, big shows and like just

1066
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: like I want to travel the world and do shows.

1067
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: Where if you could do if you could do a

1068
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: big show anywhere on the planet.

1069
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: Dude, probably Japan. Oh you're a benajpan No, that's like

1070
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: one of the first places I want to go to.

1071
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: Travel band's cool. Map done a few shows in Japan.

1072
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: That's sick.

1073
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: They're cool. They're a fun time. Yeah.

1074
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 2: I I uh so, I had to take a language

1075
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: in high school and I got to pick between Spanish, Latin,

1076
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: or Japanese. I chose Japanese.

1077
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: You remember any Japanese?

1078
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: No? Really, I will not do it. It's adversing.

1079
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: You remember ka, of course? I remember how I'm trying

1080
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: to remember. How the fuck do I say? Fuck? Why

1081
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: don't I remember? What is your name?

1082
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm not no namaa desk another nama Desca. Yeah, I

1083
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 2: think that was right.

1084
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that sounded right. Yeah Desca Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1085
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: Do you remember you know?

1086
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: What is it was? That want?

1087
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: That's how are you?

1088
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I remember that. You're bringing it back.

1089
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: I lived there for like two months at the beginning

1090
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 1: of this year.

1091
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so do you, because when I eventually go out there,

1092
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: I want to spend a lot of time out there.

1093
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: Oh you should have. Fucking is so cool.

1094
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you feel like those two months like you

1095
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: kind of like we're like catching onto the language better.

1096
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: A little a little bit as much as you could

1097
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: in two months. I mean definitely not as much as

1098
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: you could in two months, but you know, as much

1099
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: as you could passively in two months.

1100
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: I feel like I'd have like a slight advantage because

1101
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: of learning in high school. Yeah, come back to me.

1102
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: It's sick though, I love I mean, yeah, Tokyo. I

1103
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: love like a big city, you know.

1104
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: I love like futuristic looking cities.

1105
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, Oh shabuya fucking rocks.

1106
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah that's sick, you know. Yeah, that's why I like

1107
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: the game Cyberpunk so much.

1108
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: Cyberpunk.

1109
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: Where does cyberpunk take place, like like far future dystopian

1110
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: in America? I think it's that somewhere between California, like

1111
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: some Yeah, somewhere in California.

1112
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta sell my copy of Mario Kart World.

1113
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you also hate mark Our World.

1114
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: I thought I was crazy because everyone is kind of

1115
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: dick riding it. I think IGN gave it. Did IGN

1116
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: give it some big crazy score?

1117
00:57:59,040 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: Really?

1118
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: I think? But it's just it's not good. It's not

1119
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: that great.

1120
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I'll still play. I just I

1121
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: like it. I like the knockout mode.

1122
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: That's the only I like the knockout mode too. It's

1123
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: where you do one big Yeah.

1124
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you really get it really gets your adrenaline

1125
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: going when you're like going, like catching up and you're

1126
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: like you have to get to like whatever, like eighth place, Yeah, yeah,

1127
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: ninth and overtake the guy right in front of you.

1128
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: Who do you play as?

1129
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: I play as shy guy?

1130
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: You play as a shy guy? Yeah? Is it because

1131
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: you're a shy guy? Maybe?

1132
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's because I'm ah, do.

1133
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: You feel like you're a shy guy?

1134
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: Definitely? Yeah, that's why I like stand inside.

1135
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: Well, how did you? How did you feel about this? Uh,

1136
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: past hour of hour?

1137
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: It's been about an hour. Yeah, it went by very fast.

1138
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: I felt I felt unshy.

1139
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: Good, I felt open good. Let's see. Okay, so we

1140
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: want to make sure that people know about the album.

1141
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: What what do you well when this comes out? If

1142
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: people want to let's do this. If people want to

1143
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: get in to the album verse, where do they start?

1144
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: Where should the people start with you?

1145
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: With that album out?

1146
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: With you? In general? If people people, if people listening

1147
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: to this haven't heard you before, should they start? Okay?

1148
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: I would say my biggest songs called I Can't Believe,

1149
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: I'll let You get Away. That's kind of the tone

1150
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: of the album, and I feel like moving forward, that's

1151
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep that tone but still evolve it. I

1152
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 2: can never stick with the same sound for too long.

1153
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: I don't like making the same song like multiple times.

1154
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm gonna put this album out that

1155
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: has like songs that are similar to that, but also

1156
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of variation, and then move on to another

1157
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 2: sound after that.

1158
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: M m yeah, what would the other sound be or

1159
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: you're doing now?

1160
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 2: I think I feel like I would take it more

1161
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: and like an experimental still keep like elements of a band,

1162
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: like you know, live drums, live guitar, but more uh,

1163
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: just like more inaccessible if that's the right word, Like

1164
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: a little more niche Yeah, more obscure exactly?

1165
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: Is there any other things that you want to plug

1166
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: to the people before we go?

1167
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: Man, I hate self promotion.

1168
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: That's why we're here, motherfucker.

1169
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 2: I hate it. Well, I mean I like being here

1170
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: just to hang out. Yeah, I feel, I feel, I feel,

1171
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,959
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I mean, well, I'm on tour

1172
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: right now.

1173
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: Where we were are we off too? So if this,

1174
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: if this comes out, I believe the podcast version is

1175
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: going to drop September fifth. Where are you at?

1176
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know where I'm gonna be at. I

1177
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: think I might might still be on tour. Okay, so

1178
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: come to those shows, come see Wisp. Wisp is going

1179
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: to be touring longer than I am. Okay, So go

1180
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: see Wisp please. She's the coolest artist ever. I worked

1181
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: on her album that she's touring right now, and I

1182
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: love like I love to working with her. I love

1183
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: the songs that we made together and stuff. So yeah,

1184
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 2: go go see Wisp Live Beautiful.

1185
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: I'll did anything else you want to say to the

1186
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.

1187
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 2: Oh a yeah, shout out to all the people who

1188
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: like my music. I'll love you forever, reyally like make

1189
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 2: everything possible. It's a it makes some emotional thinking about it,

1190
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: just like that I was doing this since I've been eleven,

1191
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: and now I'm like, and now it's my life. It's crazy.

1192
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: We truly live in h in a matrix of some kind.

1193
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 2: Right right. I feel like, you know, maybe this is

1194
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: like my maybe this is like my tenth life. You

1195
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 2: know I got it right, Maybe I got it right

1196
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 2: to an extent this time.

1197
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: I'll say this all that I hope that in every

1198
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: you know, what is it in? What's that scene in

1199
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: uh endgame and game where Doctor Strange is like I

1200
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: ran through.

1201
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: I was into it, Like Marvel.

1202
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: There's some fucking scene in one of the Avengers movies

1203
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: where doctor Strange is like, I ran through nine million

1204
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: different simulations and there's only one where we win, or

1205
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: something like that. But I hope in all ten million

1206
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: Alden lives there is a moment where we are sitting

1207
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: here in Gecko suits. Hell yeah, hanging out.

1208
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it happens every time. Maybe.

1209
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: Aldon, thank you very much for calling on the show.

1210
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. You mu