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Speaker 1: It is Monday, September seventeenth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, episode
Speaker 1: number forty one. Welcome to another edition of The Break
Speaker 1: live in the SWNBC Morgan Studios at the Star. We
Speaker 1: got a lot to get into today. Cowboys got to win.
Speaker 1: I get the first win of the season against the
Speaker 1: New York Giants on Sunday Night Football. They win twenty
Speaker 1: to thirteen. We'll break down for you guys everything that
Speaker 1: went right and went wrong for the Cowboys because there
Speaker 1: were some things that weren't perfect for them last night,
Speaker 1: but they still did have a Why are you looking like, yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of late celebrating last night or let's see sound
Speaker 1: kind of horse here? Hey, you're just like wooing all
Speaker 1: the way home stadium this weekend. There's been a lot
Speaker 1: of barking. There's been a lot of stepping and a
Speaker 1: light of a lot of celebrations. Alumni weekend, good weekend.
Speaker 1: I was telling somebody, and Nicol can probably identify with
Speaker 1: this because I know he has a few teams that
Speaker 1: he roots for. I got three teams I'm affiliated with,
Speaker 1: and they all won this weekend, which never happens. It's
Speaker 1: the third one, the Lobos. You know, I'm a nephew
Speaker 1: down there. Oh yeah, Mexico. So now I'm I'm New Mexico,
Speaker 1: I'm Texas, and I'm and I'm I'm the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: and all three he got wins this weekend. So I
Speaker 1: really will jump across this table. You can't touch me.
Speaker 1: Can't touch me, all right, But but we got a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about, though. We do need to get
Speaker 1: into this Cowboys victory twenty to thirteen over the Giants.
Speaker 1: I want to start by just getting a big picture
Speaker 1: from eating you guys. I want you to tell me.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go across the table. Everybody give me a
Speaker 1: storyline that they think was the most important storyline coming
Speaker 1: out of this game. Let's start with you, Dave. I
Speaker 1: wish you had done that. Tell you what. Let's go
Speaker 1: with Nick first, Let's go to Nick, let's got the
Speaker 1: Elder Statesman first. Nick, h Um, the defense, you know,
Speaker 1: they spread it around. I mean six different guys getting
Speaker 1: sacks is means that different guys can can fly around
Speaker 1: the ball and and you know hurt you. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Marcus Lawrence is the leader. But I think
Speaker 1: for the most part that whole defense was was doing
Speaker 1: a good job. Um. You know, the Giants are really
Speaker 1: really bad, and they'll they'll pick a quarterback high in
Speaker 1: the draft, but um, you know, I thought it was
Speaker 1: I thought they were better than that. I wrote thought
Speaker 1: the Giants were better than that. I know I picked
Speaker 1: the Giants to win, but I thought the Giants would
Speaker 1: be better than that. I think this Cowboys team is
Speaker 1: you know, one and one. That's how you get to
Speaker 1: eight and Nate when you do that kind of stuff. Um, oh,
Speaker 1: you were tuning in for Sunshine and this morning kids
Speaker 1: so much. In that one little statement we got, we
Speaker 1: got to dive into defense looked really really good. The
Speaker 1: defense looked good. Offenses will be better than that, but
Speaker 1: they took advantage of a really bad There you go,
Speaker 1: all right, I feel better about what I was going
Speaker 1: to say now that Nick said that because I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to rain on anybody's parade. There's no
Speaker 1: there was a dominant win, and you don't get a
Speaker 1: lot of dominant wins in the NFL. So and I mean, okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: the final margin was seven, even with the muffed extra,
Speaker 1: even with the muffed onside kick, it was never in doubt.
Speaker 1: So that's good. But yeah, that's not a good Giants team.
Speaker 1: And so the main takeaway is obviously, like the defense
Speaker 1: was a phenomenal, but how much weight does that really hold?
Speaker 1: I gotta see it against somebody better. Having said that,
Speaker 1: combine that with week one, so now you know your
Speaker 1: two week averages two hundred and seventy four yards per
Speaker 1: game and fourteen and a half points per game. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's got to be close to tops in the league
Speaker 1: on both fronts. I haven't looked at it yet. We
Speaker 1: just got into work, but they look suffocating. They look
Speaker 1: really really good. All sorts of reason for optimism about that.
Speaker 1: Having said that, to the next points, that's not a
Speaker 1: good team that they played. So you know, they're not
Speaker 1: doomsday yet, but certainly a lot of reason to feel
Speaker 1: optimistic about it. Amber Aside from the defense, I'm hoping
Speaker 1: that when they come back today and watch film and
Speaker 1: all that they can really take a look and realize
Speaker 1: the things that do work out for this offense. You know,
Speaker 1: we got to see Dak Prescott be a little more
Speaker 1: mobile rushing the ball, and I think that's one of
Speaker 1: the keys. When you don't have a perfect quarterback that
Speaker 1: can make those perfect throws down the field, it can
Speaker 1: work for him when you utilize him in those ways.
Speaker 1: And when you start utilizing Tavon Austin Ezekiel Eliot, you
Speaker 1: start giving him the ball and see those things. Clearly,
Speaker 1: we saw how it started not working for them when
Speaker 1: they took Tavon Austin now and they started doing different
Speaker 1: things that It's like, why are you going to change
Speaker 1: the game when you see it working? And they came
Speaker 1: back later on what was a fourth quarter, maybe they
Speaker 1: started doing it again what was working. So I'm hoping
Speaker 1: I saw some positive there from the offense and saw
Speaker 1: a more confident in Dak Prescott, and I think those
Speaker 1: are the kind of things that they need to allow
Speaker 1: him to do in order for him to keep that
Speaker 1: confidence up and keep the offense moving. Almost get the sense,
Speaker 1: and this is probably not accurate, but you get the
Speaker 1: sense sometimes with the play calling that it's like they'll
Speaker 1: do things just to kind of shut people up. Everyone's
Speaker 1: saying all week, throw the ball down the field, get
Speaker 1: the ball to Austin, run the ball was Dak, and
Speaker 1: they do these kind of things to kind of like, see,
Speaker 1: we can do this, But then they kind of revert
Speaker 1: back to what they really want to do in the
Speaker 1: second and third quarter, like this is kind of the
Speaker 1: way we really want to play and it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: Like there's a reason why I'm not saying that media
Speaker 1: is smarter than them, but there's a reason why people
Speaker 1: are saying throw the ball down the field, get the
Speaker 1: ball to Austin because the other stuff isn't working. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's almost like they do it and again this probably
Speaker 1: isn't accurate as well, but it just feels like they
Speaker 1: do it because they feel like they only want to
Speaker 1: do it when they have to do it, Like at
Speaker 1: the beginning of game, if I want got the fast starts,
Speaker 1: So they did it, and then they get into this
Speaker 1: thing where they're like, all right, now we're settling in.
Speaker 1: Let's do what we really want to do, like you said, Nick,
Speaker 1: and then they get to the end of the game, like,
Speaker 1: we gotta have this drive, we need this drive right now.
Speaker 1: And then again they go back to doing what you
Speaker 1: want to do. You need to do what you need
Speaker 1: to do now, and that's what I'm going back to.
Speaker 1: Like watch the field to this week, Notice, look at
Speaker 1: what was working and keep doing that. You don't have no,
Speaker 1: you lost that privilege. My favorite thing about Amber is
Speaker 1: that if given the opportunity, she would walk right into
Speaker 1: the coaches meeting rum and say that she wouldn't give up.
Speaker 1: She certainly would say that. And I guarantee if she
Speaker 1: seizes them in the hall, so she'll probably say it
Speaker 1: then too. So I I love it. I agree that.
Speaker 1: I mean, God, as good as they look to start,
Speaker 1: they I like, I have like a mental lapse from
Speaker 1: the mental two quarters of that game because I was
Speaker 1: so bored, like it, just do something where like did
Speaker 1: they have a drive longer than five plays after the
Speaker 1: first two? I don't think so. You kind of figure
Speaker 1: sometimes I think I said to you, that sounds like
Speaker 1: it looks like the offensive line kind of wears down.
Speaker 1: You know, this isn't the same line that we've seen
Speaker 1: where they just kind of overpower people. It's almost like
Speaker 1: they they wear down just a little bit, um, you know,
Speaker 1: because this is you know, this is different for um
Speaker 1: uh Looney to play that, you know this much and
Speaker 1: the start and all that, and the same with Connor Williams.
Speaker 1: So you know, they're still trying to figure this out today.
Speaker 1: They did a nice job early in the game, but
Speaker 1: it was hard to kind of sustain that, and you know,
Speaker 1: leaning on Damon Harrison for that long. I mean, they
Speaker 1: wear on you. And that's the fact they I mean,
Speaker 1: they they actually they didn't give up a sack, so
Speaker 1: that's better. That's improvement, right, But there were there were
Speaker 1: plays I saw out there where Looney was having some
Speaker 1: difficulty with with snacks Harris in the middle of that defense,
Speaker 1: and there were some plays that that Lyle didn't look
Speaker 1: great on the outside. And I'm getting a little I'm
Speaker 1: starting to get a little bit concerned by Lyle because
Speaker 1: I don't think he played great in Week one. I
Speaker 1: don't think he played great yesterday either, And I was
Speaker 1: expecting again, this is the fallacy of what we do
Speaker 1: expected when a guy has a good year. Let's say,
Speaker 1: for example, last year, I thought Lyle played really well.
Speaker 1: My expectations in are the next year he's going to
Speaker 1: be even better. And it doesn't always work like that.
Speaker 1: And I think right now it's starting to worry me
Speaker 1: just a little bit because he's just not taking that
Speaker 1: next step beyond where he was last year. No, my opinion,
Speaker 1: in first two games, nobody's defended him harder than I
Speaker 1: have over the last year or so. Yeah. I thought
Speaker 1: he played. I thought he was outstanding in the second
Speaker 1: half of last season after some growing pains. To start
Speaker 1: hasn't been good, no way around it. Um Again, I
Speaker 1: think it's too early, especially, I mean, you get a win,
Speaker 1: you ran the ball effectively, and you got the job done.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to tinker with anything. Um right, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: no need to change. And you know he was. He
Speaker 1: was not great in the first month of last season either,
Speaker 1: so that's not what you want. But maybe it takes
Speaker 1: him more time than others. I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: can't argue with you. Once again. For the Vets, we're
Speaker 1: in the preseason right now. Yeah, just say, we're in
Speaker 1: the preseason. But this, you know, as I wrote last night,
Speaker 1: I mean this is, without it out, a defensive football team.
Speaker 1: They built this thing to be offensive. They built you
Speaker 1: know this line in the running game, and they drafted
Speaker 1: really high for running back to have this kind of
Speaker 1: offensive attack. But that's not what this team is anymore.
Speaker 1: It's not it's a defensive team, and that's okay, but
Speaker 1: they're asking the defense to be really really good. They
Speaker 1: were really really good last night. Let's see if they
Speaker 1: can continue to do that. But and I just thought
Speaker 1: I thought Jeff Heath was flying around the ball. I
Speaker 1: thought Damien Wilson was flying around. Every time I looked up,
Speaker 1: they were doing it, you know. And Barkley's a load man,
Speaker 1: that guy. I'm still pissed at Cleveland for not drafting him.
Speaker 1: They have issues with him for years. Yeah, he is
Speaker 1: a good running back. Yeah, I still don't understand why
Speaker 1: they didn't draft him because he was He's just so dynamic,
Speaker 1: ready to play week one, ready to go right now.
Speaker 1: Well for Cleveland, if you get your quarterback of the
Speaker 1: future and the cornerback that you got it four already
Speaker 1: has two picks this year. Yeah, I just question where
Speaker 1: be a quarterback that'll be a good quarterback for them
Speaker 1: in the future. So Bailey goes to Cleveland? Is that
Speaker 1: what happened? That's gonna happen, Bailey, No, I mean for Minnesota,
Speaker 1: and Minnesota was a ton of It's been reported now
Speaker 1: that Minnesota's moving on. I don't ms M. Is it
Speaker 1: the Rams Rams kicker got hurt yesterday? Okay, Minnesota? No,
Speaker 1: the Browns are expected to sign somebody else, got it? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were there were a ton of kicking problems around
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, I think I had no chance of
Speaker 1: making that kick. You know, like when they drove that
Speaker 1: Cleveland drove down and he's just confidence wise and you
Speaker 1: see it, And that's kind of what the Cowboys were fearing.
Speaker 1: With Dan Bailey, they would get to that point. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be that bad. I want
Speaker 1: to go back to your point real quick though, because
Speaker 1: and I'll contradict myself a little bit, I guess, because
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a very good Giants team and
Speaker 1: as good as the past rush. Look, you gotta keep
Speaker 1: in mind that that Giant's offensive line is a wreck.
Speaker 1: But like all three levels of the defense looked very,
Speaker 1: very impressive, Like your linebackers were flying around, still more
Speaker 1: mistackles than you would prefer. It seemed, I mean, nobody
Speaker 1: brought down sae Quon Barkley on first contact. Nobody which
Speaker 1: easier said than done. I know, but we said that
Speaker 1: was an important aspect of the game than they did
Speaker 1: not do it. But the safeties were all over the place.
Speaker 1: I mean Jeff that I know he was out of bounds,
Speaker 1: but the re Jeff Heath made on that ball in
Speaker 1: the end zone not surprising though he does that none
Speaker 1: stuff like he just has that ability. They tested Byron
Speaker 1: and Cheeto down the field several times. Cheeto gave up
Speaker 1: a long one to Sterling Shepherd. I think it wasn't
Speaker 1: even Odell Beckham, but it was just a beautifully placed ball,
Speaker 1: like the coverage was good. Byron didn't give up mean
Speaker 1: just every all three levels. I think everybody on the
Speaker 1: defense had at least one play that that was really outstanding.
Speaker 1: And there was no I don't think I remember a
Speaker 1: single time when a Giants receiver was running free other
Speaker 1: than the touchdown there and the I guess it would
Speaker 1: be in the fourth quarter, but there really that's the part.
Speaker 1: I think that was great because you're right, the cornerbacks
Speaker 1: were tested at times, they tried to go downfield, but
Speaker 1: every time they were in lockstep with those guys, And
Speaker 1: to me, that's still just a continuation of what we've
Speaker 1: been seeing during training camp and during the preseason and
Speaker 1: these first two weeks of the season, they haven't really
Speaker 1: been tested yet, I don't think, because they haven't run
Speaker 1: up against an offense that has enough protection for the
Speaker 1: quarterback to really challenge them and the receivers to challenge them.
Speaker 1: It might happen in Week four against Detroit, but I
Speaker 1: think for the test that they've had so far, they
Speaker 1: certainly have passed those tests, Like, yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 1: can only play who's in front of you. And even
Speaker 1: in a loss against Carolina after a sloppy start, they
Speaker 1: were outstanding there at fourteen and a half points. And actually,
Speaker 1: for the story I wrote about the defense last night,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee talked about, you know, you know, we still
Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do, all that cliche stuff,
Speaker 1: but he said, he's like, you know, if you go
Speaker 1: back to like December of last year, when we all
Speaker 1: got back healthy and they put the young guys in,
Speaker 1: that's kind of when I started to get an inkling
Speaker 1: that this defense might be pretty good. I went back
Speaker 1: over the last five games of last season, starting with
Speaker 1: the Redskins win, which was right after the blowout that
Speaker 1: they lost on Thanksgiving to the Chargers. They allowed sixty
Speaker 1: points in the last five games of the year, which
Speaker 1: is an average of twelve points something per game. Wow.
Speaker 1: So for you know, you're giving up two pressent, you're
Speaker 1: giving up two touchdowns per game so far this season
Speaker 1: and less than that in the last five games last year.
Speaker 1: So if you want to talk about how the offensive
Speaker 1: trends go back to last season and that's cause for concern,
Speaker 1: well you can add a few more games onto that
Speaker 1: defense and say, hey, this is a growing sample size
Speaker 1: that gives you a good cause for optimism. And you know,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, if if all things being considering,
Speaker 1: you look at all the different phases of your game
Speaker 1: and you say, oh, there's a team that's going to
Speaker 1: be good at this, not good at this. If you
Speaker 1: give me a team that can play really outstanding defense
Speaker 1: and can run the ball, I will be okay with
Speaker 1: the idea that they're not the great greatest passing team,
Speaker 1: because at least I've seen that model work. I've seen
Speaker 1: teams that have won Super Bowls with that kind of model.
Speaker 1: Not to say this team is in Super Bowl I'm
Speaker 1: not even saying that, but I'm saying that model. That's
Speaker 1: a model that we've seen work in the NFL. And
Speaker 1: I'd rather have that model than have a team that
Speaker 1: can throw the ball all around the yard but has
Speaker 1: no defense. We've that model fail quite a bit. I
Speaker 1: actually like it if you can get this defensive the
Speaker 1: point where they're playing at that kind of level. I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna get to the point later in the
Speaker 1: season and we're gonna say, you know what, that Carolina game.
Speaker 1: What we learned from that game is that, you know,
Speaker 1: this really good defense had some problems with Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: That was the problem that they really had. It was
Speaker 1: this and he was just early too. Yeah, but it
Speaker 1: was this dynamic, unique type of skill set that just
Speaker 1: not anybody really in the league, not that many players
Speaker 1: in the league have that. And I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will never admit this, but I think they
Speaker 1: saw that and was like, you know what, our guy's
Speaker 1: not that much different than that. He doesn't throw the
Speaker 1: ball that great. He's a big, strong linebacker type body.
Speaker 1: Do that, you know? And I think that you saw that.
Speaker 1: I mean, just run, you know, read option there and
Speaker 1: and take off with it. I thought if he if
Speaker 1: he actually makes different cuts, he probably gets twenty or
Speaker 1: thirty more yards, so he'll get better at that. And
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're gonna find out that that
Speaker 1: game right there kind of helped him and we'll see
Speaker 1: more of that with that. I hope you're right and
Speaker 1: on it. And I said this this morning on Twitter
Speaker 1: tavon Austin too. He got eighteen snaps, which is up
Speaker 1: from last week. Still not enough in my opinion that
Speaker 1: he needs more touches. And I think just I think
Speaker 1: they motioned him on the fourth down, just like they've
Speaker 1: just brought him across the formation again, just to give
Speaker 1: you that half second. Do more of that too, Like
Speaker 1: he just he should just be involved as a constant
Speaker 1: threat to touch it even if he's not going to
Speaker 1: what I've said so many times over the last few years,
Speaker 1: not only that I wanted to see a deep threat
Speaker 1: like that, but how many times have I told you
Speaker 1: first series of the game, throw it deep with your guy,
Speaker 1: even if you don't connect it. What you're showing is
Speaker 1: is this is what we've got. This guy just ran
Speaker 1: by you. We'll connect on this later. You're safety better
Speaker 1: watch out and of course it led to a touchdown,
Speaker 1: But that play can really help you as the season
Speaker 1: goes on. Next week, you're sitting there in Seattle that
Speaker 1: safety knows there's number ten out there. That stuff can
Speaker 1: really help. Yeah, he'll definitely know. Oh yeah, yeah, he'll know.
Speaker 1: He's gonna know, he'll know. All right, let's let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and get a little bit deeper into the conversation. Actually,
Speaker 1: let's take our first break. When we come back, I
Speaker 1: do want to talk specifically about Dak's today. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about Ezekiel Elliott. Did he get enough touches?
Speaker 1: Because you look at his overall production yesterday, pretty good average,
Speaker 1: but the number of touches that he had was probably
Speaker 1: a little less than you would think is what you'd
Speaker 1: expect from a guy like Ezekiel Llot. But we'll talk
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Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage Studio that the star Talking Cowboys win.
Speaker 1: Cowboys win and I'm sorry they win. Twenty to thirteen
Speaker 1: of the giants on Sunday night football. Um, nickle you
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm out of it. It's okay, it's a
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Speaker 1: Cowboys win twenty thirteen. Let's dive a little deeper into
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott yesterday was sixteen to twenty five, sixty four
Speaker 1: percent completion rate, one hundred and sixty yards passing, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: and ninety five point four passers I mean COMQB writing
Speaker 1: and then he ran four He ran seven times for
Speaker 1: forty five yards, which I thought was the best part
Speaker 1: of what he did yesterday. All that being said, we
Speaker 1: saw some things yesterday that we hadn't seen it in
Speaker 1: the first game. Threw down phil a few times, connected
Speaker 1: on one big touchdown, He ran the ball effectively with
Speaker 1: the zone read. Here's my question for you guys. Was
Speaker 1: it enough? What you saw yesterday certainly wasn't enough for
Speaker 1: him to win yesterday against what you call bad team Nick.
Speaker 1: Is it enough when you start playing the likes of Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: when you start playing the likes of Philadelphia and a
Speaker 1: lot of the other teams that are on the schedule
Speaker 1: that are tough for teams, is it going to be
Speaker 1: enough the way that they played offense yesterday, has had
Speaker 1: enough for them to continue and win. No, I mean
Speaker 1: that's not enough points and some of those games, and
Speaker 1: you know, he's got to make He's got to make
Speaker 1: throws that are there, you know. I mean, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but he's got I mean, he got a tight end
Speaker 1: sitting in the back of the end zone, who's got
Speaker 1: a really big wingspan. You gotta get him the football
Speaker 1: and he's there, and you know, and there's no reason
Speaker 1: and overthrown. Now I understand kind of his mentality. You
Speaker 1: can tell he's gun chat when it comes to the
Speaker 1: red zone. He's not throwing the pick in there. He's really,
Speaker 1: you know, gonna make sure he doesn't do that. So
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he threw that up there from
Speaker 1: that wheel route to Beasley in the back corner. That
Speaker 1: back corner, he's gonna throw it in that back corner.
Speaker 1: That was I did not love that decision. I thought
Speaker 1: his decision making was pretty good for the most part.
Speaker 1: Last night. I did not love that throw. But I
Speaker 1: think you're right, he's just gonna, Yeah, he's gonna throw
Speaker 1: it back there like that. He's not gonna fire it
Speaker 1: in there. And he definitely overshot rico and which is
Speaker 1: probably good for everybody in the place. I'm just asking
Speaker 1: what back of the ends on wide open right? Hands up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope so, I don't know. If not, then if
Speaker 1: he didn't run the right route, and then you know
Speaker 1: what changed the play because the play was right. Whatever happened,
Speaker 1: that's the biggest target you can possibly get too. But
Speaker 1: question what would have happened to the internet? I mean
Speaker 1: it would have broken. Yeah. I was kind of relieved
Speaker 1: he overthrew it because I wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 1: use Twitter for the rest of the night, just been
Speaker 1: flipping place. Would have just gotten nuts. Scoreboard probably falls down,
Speaker 1: which isn't Yeah, well that never happens there. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it would have been nuts if he
Speaker 1: would have got that beast nuts. Now what if he
Speaker 1: would have dropped it a little less nuts but still
Speaker 1: pretty nice press box? Would have gotten nuts. I can
Speaker 1: promise you that What were you going to say? I
Speaker 1: was going back to your question as far as is
Speaker 1: this enough, I don't think so. But it's definitely the
Speaker 1: right step, a step to the right direction. And I
Speaker 1: think this and you kept saying we can keep arguing
Speaker 1: about this. Whether it wasn't must win or not, I
Speaker 1: don't care what you say. I definitely believe it was
Speaker 1: a must win just because of the confidence I think
Speaker 1: that we I mean, imagine how much it would have
Speaker 1: sucked had they lost this game and their confidence. I
Speaker 1: mean that that is just what they needed, especially going
Speaker 1: up against the Seahawks this upcoming week. You needed to
Speaker 1: gain that confidence back in Dak Prescott. I feel that
Speaker 1: he did gain some of that, and the way he
Speaker 1: was moving around and also not really overthinking. You didn't
Speaker 1: see him just staying there in the pocket really you know,
Speaker 1: thinking what to do and then messing it up. He
Speaker 1: was making some decisions and sometimes it went his way,
Speaker 1: sometimes it didn't, but it's still it goes along. And
Speaker 1: when you look at the defense, look how much how
Speaker 1: good that energy is within the group, and how that
Speaker 1: infects everyone else, and it just it keeps going, it
Speaker 1: keeps growing. So that's the kind of thing you need.
Speaker 1: And when they started doing those things, you start progressing.
Speaker 1: Now is it to that level yet, I don't know,
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, maybe doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be that level right now. I do believe that you
Speaker 1: mentioned Seattle and I've had that conversation I think with
Speaker 1: each of you at some point over the last day
Speaker 1: about Seattle. I personally don't know if I'm believing that
Speaker 1: Seattle is as good as they've been in the past.
Speaker 1: I want to see how they played a night. But
Speaker 1: last week they certainly didn't impress me. And they've lost
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, including now their top receiver, who
Speaker 1: you know, they already didn't have a I don't think
Speaker 1: a great contingent of receivers. They lost their top one.
Speaker 1: I just I'm not convinced that Seattle is the Seattle
Speaker 1: that we've been used to seeing. They're definitely not. But
Speaker 1: this go I mean, this is a philosophical conversation that
Speaker 1: I thought about starting with you in the last segment
Speaker 1: because you're like, oh, I'll take a great defense and
Speaker 1: an adequate offense because I've seen that work, and you're right.
Speaker 1: But if you have one of those transcendent quarterbacks, you're
Speaker 1: in any game like we've I mean this, oh, absolutely,
Speaker 1: this team. I think if there's one thing I feel
Speaker 1: comfortable saying even after two games, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: like what I said last week, is like when the
Speaker 1: game plans working and when the Cowboys are throwing punches.
Speaker 1: It's a great formula. Yeah, but I don't know that
Speaker 1: this team is designed to dig out of holes and
Speaker 1: fix it when it's going bad. And when you have
Speaker 1: a player like Russell Wilson, you can do that. Yes,
Speaker 1: but here's the deal. The fact of the matter is,
Speaker 1: right now, there are maybe five transcendent quarter No, no, no no,
Speaker 1: you're don't don't mistake my argument. I'm not like, I'm
Speaker 1: not worried that Dak is not that quarterback. I think
Speaker 1: it's harder to just say, it's almost harder to find
Speaker 1: that transcendent quarterback and get him on your team than
Speaker 1: it is to find and create a good defense, a
Speaker 1: really good defense. I'm just saying you still have to
Speaker 1: account for that. And the Cowboys aren't there themselves right now,
Speaker 1: but the Seahawks might be because they have a quarterback
Speaker 1: that's on that level. That's a different conversation. Um, I
Speaker 1: thought Dak was fine, Like he was fine, Like I
Speaker 1: agree with what you said. I like the way you
Speaker 1: say it too. He was fine, he was fine, Like
Speaker 1: we should not be. We should not just be hyping
Speaker 1: it up like this transcendent performance. You shouldn't be killing
Speaker 1: the guy either. I really I thought he looked confident
Speaker 1: and determined, Like he comes right out of the gate
Speaker 1: and fires a slant to Alan Hearns on the you know,
Speaker 1: first throw of the game, then goes deep even you know,
Speaker 1: his deep ball to Gallop wasn't complete, but I didn't
Speaker 1: think it was a terrible throw. Um. He had a
Speaker 1: great completion on a third and ten to Deontay Thompson,
Speaker 1: which it was it was solid coverage. He was not
Speaker 1: wide open, but he fired it right in there and
Speaker 1: hit him in stride. Then he misses Rico Gathers and
Speaker 1: he may be a questionable throw to Cole Beasley in
Speaker 1: the end zone the on the you know, the game
Speaker 1: clinching touchdown drive. He had a nice third down conversion
Speaker 1: to Cole as well. So there were four or five
Speaker 1: really nice throws last night, and probably three or four
Speaker 1: not very good. And then factor that in with fifty
Speaker 1: rushing yards, I thought he was fine. I think Dak
Speaker 1: and Tavon need to have an impact like that in
Speaker 1: the running game damn near every week. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: it keeps defenses honest, It keeps the wear and tear
Speaker 1: down on Zeke and allows him to compliment them a
Speaker 1: little bit. Passing games gotta be better, but not like
Speaker 1: a ton better. I think you know, if he hits
Speaker 1: Rico and maybe one of I mean, if he finishes,
Speaker 1: great about the night, if he hit Rico, if he
Speaker 1: finishes if he finishes seven, it was an eleven yard pass.
Speaker 1: So if he if he finishes seventeen for twenty five
Speaker 1: for one seventy one and two touchdowns on top of
Speaker 1: the running, I think people even I know that sounds dumb,
Speaker 1: but I think people feel a lot better. And you
Speaker 1: can't have those plays back, I get it, but there's
Speaker 1: enough there to feel encouraged about. You want him to
Speaker 1: take what's there. I think that's what you really care
Speaker 1: about at the end of the day, don't He doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily have to be that quarterback that manufactures a whole
Speaker 1: lot in the passing game, but if it's there and
Speaker 1: available to you. That was the part that I think
Speaker 1: most of us criticized last week, was that there were
Speaker 1: opportunities that were sitting in front of him that he
Speaker 1: didn't he wasn't able to take advantage of. That's the
Speaker 1: ones that you really want him to be able to hit.
Speaker 1: Don't have to be Aaron Rodgers. You don't have to
Speaker 1: be Drew Brees. Just take what's there. If it's there,
Speaker 1: take it, and if not, then move on to punt
Speaker 1: and move on to another series. If he just hits Rico,
Speaker 1: then we would be saying that right now. We'd be
Speaker 1: like he hit he hit all the easy plays. He
Speaker 1: did what the defense gave him and so still got
Speaker 1: some work to do. It wasn't great by any stretch.
Speaker 1: We've seen him play a lot better, but it was
Speaker 1: an improvement from week one, So that's a start. All right.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about Ezekiel. He had a
Speaker 1: seventeen carries, seventy eight yards four point six average, and
Speaker 1: a touchdown. He caught five or six targets, but only
Speaker 1: nine yards on those catches one point eight average. Looks
Speaker 1: to me like that was If you think about it's
Speaker 1: only twenty two touches that I would have said at
Speaker 1: the beginning of season there would probably not be a
Speaker 1: game where he had especially if you told me what
Speaker 1: this offense looked like, I would probably think there wouldn't
Speaker 1: be a game where he had less than twenty five touches.
Speaker 1: Do you think this is under utilization? Of Ezekuel Elliott
Speaker 1: or do you think it just played out that way
Speaker 1: in the game and this is what you had, is
Speaker 1: what you were presented with. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: when else he could have gotten the ball. I mean
Speaker 1: they were that was part of the end game plan
Speaker 1: and Lanta Collins kind of gave away the game plan
Speaker 1: and obviously they're gonna go and try to stop him.
Speaker 1: So you know, everyone always says they should have run
Speaker 1: the ball more. You would run the ball more if
Speaker 1: you're moving the sticks, and that's and I thought they
Speaker 1: did a pretty good job with that. There was a
Speaker 1: there was a part part in the second drive where
Speaker 1: there was five consecutive first down plays. You know, they
Speaker 1: were twelve, nine, and ten, and I thought that really
Speaker 1: helped open things up later for for Zeke. But you know,
Speaker 1: it was not an easy day to run. It never
Speaker 1: has been really against the Giants um even though they've
Speaker 1: changed defensive fronts, they still always make it tough on him.
Speaker 1: So I thought it was it was pretty good. I
Speaker 1: don't know about it really, yeah, I don't know about
Speaker 1: under utilization. I thought it was it was pretty good,
Speaker 1: and you know, they they tried to run it out
Speaker 1: and you know, run out the clock a little bit
Speaker 1: with him, and he kind of warmed down there later
Speaker 1: on in the game, So that was good. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: the touchdown drive was super encouraging because it's what Garrett
Speaker 1: talks about all the time, that you know, you bang
Speaker 1: on them enough times they're worn out. Nineteen yard gain
Speaker 1: against that, you know, against Snacks on that drive and
Speaker 1: then the touchdown was phenomenal. I mean it was second
Speaker 1: and third effort. I mean that's just that's just being
Speaker 1: better than everybody and being fresh when everybody else is tired.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I'd like to see more than seventeen carries,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna quibble about it, pat, I mean,
Speaker 1: passing game is just come on. So I hate it,
Speaker 1: you know, I hate it. I can talk about it
Speaker 1: till I'm blue in the face. But at this point,
Speaker 1: like I said last week, like you lose the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt, I'm I'm now just I'm making peace
Speaker 1: with the thought that this is what it's going to be.
Speaker 1: Like why aren't they doing it yet? If they were
Speaker 1: going to do it at all? Like I'm I'm no,
Speaker 1: I'm just like you see sixteen sixteen targets and fourteen
Speaker 1: catches and like they weren't. It wasn't anything crazy with
Speaker 1: him either, But every single time Zeke goes out. When
Speaker 1: when I was looking at the stats last night and
Speaker 1: saw that, I'm like, oh, they did with Barkley what
Speaker 1: they wanted to do it. Honestly, that's overkill because they
Speaker 1: couldn't get anything going in the run game. I don't
Speaker 1: even want sixteen targets for Zeke how I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: the targets and receptions is great, six and five. Can
Speaker 1: we do something other than screens? And Zeke is all
Speaker 1: he's always at the line of scrimmage and half the
Speaker 1: time his back is turned to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: when he gets the ball, and I think that's dumb.
Speaker 1: And I will say this though, I mean, I look
Speaker 1: at what they did last night. I think that's what
Speaker 1: any team should do. When you have a player that's
Speaker 1: as good as Ezekiel Elliott, as good as Saquon Barkley,
Speaker 1: if you're having a hard time running the ball with them,
Speaker 1: then I have no problem with the idea of them
Speaker 1: getting fourteen catches. They should get fourteen catches because to me,
Speaker 1: that's how maybe you can get your offense rolling because
Speaker 1: guess what the best thing that the Giants did last
Speaker 1: night last night offensively was get the ball in Saquon
Speaker 1: Barkley's hands out on the outside. It did end up
Speaker 1: getting the points in the yards that they really wanted,
Speaker 1: but it was the best thing that they did. And
Speaker 1: I think when you've got a player that's that much
Speaker 1: better then your other players, he is that much of
Speaker 1: a weapon. Getting him out of space with the ball
Speaker 1: is never a badt is such a basketball type reference,
Speaker 1: but you know a lot of guys can make plays
Speaker 1: without showing up in the stat sheet. One of his
Speaker 1: best plays is not a stat but when he took
Speaker 1: that ball and didn't get freaked out by Landon Collins
Speaker 1: being right there, pitches it to Tavon and then lowers
Speaker 1: the shoulder and actually crushed Landon Collins to the ground.
Speaker 1: Perfect pitch that had disaster written all over it with
Speaker 1: Landon Collins just blasting to the play right there. But
Speaker 1: he did a nice job of keeping the pitch available
Speaker 1: and then lowering the shoulder. That's where the toughness comes in.
Speaker 1: It's not a stat at all, it's not even a carry,
Speaker 1: it's nothing, but he certainly you know, his strength and
Speaker 1: his poise actually came into play. That's my favorite play
Speaker 1: of knocking him down like that. Yeah, that was that
Speaker 1: was really good play. I mean, did you think about that,
Speaker 1: you would be like at all, no hesitation. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's what being a big, strong guy will do. Like
Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna hurt. But okay, Tavon Austin got
Speaker 1: fifteen yards and didn't get any more carries after that.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, you know, actually, speaking of which you think
Speaker 1: about it like this, there were every every series last
Speaker 1: night where Tavon Austin touched the ball they scored. There
Speaker 1: were only three of them. It's it's just kind of
Speaker 1: and I know that's just coincidence. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: it's just coincidence. But I do think there is something
Speaker 1: to the fact that when Tavon Austin is involved in
Speaker 1: this offense, this offense is going to be better. They
Speaker 1: gotta figure out ways to keep him involved throughout the
Speaker 1: entire game. It can't just be in spurts. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he needs to play one hundred percent of the snaps,
Speaker 1: but he can do far better than thirty four. Especially,
Speaker 1: I mean, who in this receiver corp is just really
Speaker 1: jumping out at you. Cole Beasley's off to a pretty
Speaker 1: nice start this season. Um, Deonte Thompson. Okay, but like no,
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys aren't light in the world on fire.
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams is m I A U. We can get
Speaker 1: to that. But maybe wait, maybe we can get to
Speaker 1: that when we have a little more clarity. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the Cowboys are rumored to be talking with
Speaker 1: Bryce Butler. Nobody really has a clear idea. Why you
Speaker 1: only left to assume, right, We'll have to have some
Speaker 1: resolution as the week goes. But get loud in the
Speaker 1: locker room. I don't know Bryce coming back music music.
Speaker 1: I've been yelling, yelling being Bryce uber Um. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he's been the best receiver. He Beasley has been
Speaker 1: the best receiver, but Tavan has been in the conversation
Speaker 1: and he's only had I think he's got eight touches
Speaker 1: so far this year. Per if you do it by
Speaker 1: like you know, you kind of delimit it by the
Speaker 1: number of touches of a a number of times on the field,
Speaker 1: it's no question that Tavon Austin is the best receiving
Speaker 1: and they got and both of his catches were down
Speaker 1: the field. I mean obviously the bomb, but then you
Speaker 1: know he had a nice comeback route, So like he
Speaker 1: can do these things that they showed in training camps.
Speaker 1: So do it use him? Using and that he is
Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense why you wouldn't be using him
Speaker 1: all the time? Him, him, him and Zeke both. I
Speaker 1: mean the fact that so what Zeke had seventeen receiving
Speaker 1: yards last week, So Zeke is at twenty six yards
Speaker 1: through two games. Come on, man, yeah, come on, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take let's take our final break when we come back,
Speaker 1: Let's dive a little more into this defense and the
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Speaker 1: about the offense quite a bit today. I do think, though,
Speaker 1: we do need to get into this defense because as
Speaker 1: we've already kind of animated this, this defense was the
Speaker 1: best part of what they did yesterday and it's s
Speaker 1: led by in my opinion, to Marcus Lawrence, I just
Speaker 1: love what they're doing up front right now. Those guys
Speaker 1: are getting after it, and it seems like it's every
Speaker 1: game where they're just bringing tons of pressures. They did
Speaker 1: the sacks didn't reflect how much they were getting after
Speaker 1: Carolina in Week one. Last night, they definitely showed up
Speaker 1: on the stat sheet when it came to six sacks
Speaker 1: and six sacks by six different players, which I was
Speaker 1: talking to one of our HR one of our PR guys,
Speaker 1: and he was like, honestly, I don't even know how
Speaker 1: we're gonna find this stat It's a hard thing to
Speaker 1: figure out they did first time time nineteen ninety seven. Wow, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're born barely Yeah yeah, yeah, it's been a while.
Speaker 1: It just shows that that, you know, like I said earlier,
Speaker 1: just there are being creative and how they're getting there too.
Speaker 1: I mean the different blitzes. I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: fact that you're seeing different guys, like not just pass rushers,
Speaker 1: but in the last two weeks, Jalen Smith has a sack,
Speaker 1: Damian Wilson had a really key play in the game.
Speaker 1: I thought that that kind of I don't know about
Speaker 1: change the momentum, but really, you know, you just expect
Speaker 1: coming out of the second half that the Giants would
Speaker 1: go down and probably score, and they had a good
Speaker 1: field position, and that that play really changed all of
Speaker 1: that led to a field goal. I told you though,
Speaker 1: I thought it should have been four down territory for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But I agree with that. Well okay, but
Speaker 1: I mean, but then again, I mean, because it's a
Speaker 1: you know, Lenahan, they don't feel that way. They don't
Speaker 1: feel like they have problems on offense, which is a problem,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's the opposite for me, like I
Speaker 1: feel like they do have problems on offense, So you
Speaker 1: get it. You don't have it. You don't have the
Speaker 1: luxury of being able to be flip about points if
Speaker 1: you got a chance at a field goal. You don't
Speaker 1: just say, well, we're going four to four downs and
Speaker 1: if we don't get it, so what No, No, no,
Speaker 1: you need the three because you might not be back right.
Speaker 1: So did you're trusting you're trusting that your three money?
Speaker 1: And I and I watched the league. Yes, and he
Speaker 1: has never made a kick yet, so I'm still not
Speaker 1: thinking that he's gonna make it. Is not until he
Speaker 1: gets opportunities that we're gonna see. And he did good
Speaker 1: jobs for him, I will. I mean, you gotta feel
Speaker 1: good about the fact. And then again it's early. But
Speaker 1: if if you can get to twenty points, which hopefully
Speaker 1: you can do in the NFL, you feel pretty good
Speaker 1: about your ability to hold onto it. With the way
Speaker 1: these guys would look, I mean, nine sacks in two games,
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy four yards, I don't honestly, like
Speaker 1: most of those websites haven't updated their stats this Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: it probably doesn't. If I had to guess, I mean,
Speaker 1: the Panthers had six last week, so what I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it's got to be close. And on top on
Speaker 1: top of that, every position group on the defense had
Speaker 1: a pressure last night. Cavan had a sack from safety.
Speaker 1: Obviously your pass rushers Damian Wilson had a sack. Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown even had a pressure on a corner blitz, which
Speaker 1: you can tell me that that's Rod Marinelli all you want,
Speaker 1: and I don't believe you, which Sean Lee was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, Rod's Rod's done that stuff before and he
Speaker 1: has I've vivid this clip. I vividly remember in twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen when they beat the Redskins on Monday Night Football.
Speaker 1: They blitzed a lot in that game. And but that's
Speaker 1: like it, So don't try to tell me that Like
Speaker 1: this just reeks of Chris Richard to me, and I
Speaker 1: love it. They look they look active and like you
Speaker 1: flying around like I mean, everybody's flying around. And yes,
Speaker 1: they had some trouble tackling last night, but after every
Speaker 1: mistackle there were about five guys on top of Sequon
Speaker 1: Barkley right after, so they're flowing to the ball. They
Speaker 1: look impressed. How about Jalen Smith, He I mean, what
Speaker 1: a beast? What a beast. I am so excited to
Speaker 1: see him play this way and how he I mean,
Speaker 1: I bet um Eli's Jalen took his breath away literally
Speaker 1: like after that hit, which it was a ton of
Speaker 1: fun and that's going to steal the headlines and it's
Speaker 1: all the memes, but way more exciting to me than
Speaker 1: that was. Like it it might have been the first
Speaker 1: play of the game. Sequon Barkley went off left tackle
Speaker 1: and Jalen just ran him down loss and I mean
Speaker 1: the speed is just amazing. It's back, yes, it's back.
Speaker 1: It looks really encouraging. I was just waiting for a
Speaker 1: penalty there. I don't know, he did nothing wrong, but
Speaker 1: I just like, if you hit a quarterback, the established
Speaker 1: quarterback really hard, something just seem like, oh man, you
Speaker 1: can't do that, and it was. It was a huge hit. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. I wish you know, I mean, don't get
Speaker 1: out of the pocket like you were asking for. Green
Speaker 1: Bay absolutely lost a football game yesterday because of a
Speaker 1: rule like that with what's his name for the second
Speaker 1: week in a rule. I mean that was happy. It
Speaker 1: was not happy. Yeah, what's funny is that this rule
Speaker 1: about you know, putting your body weight on a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna happen where a safety is going
Speaker 1: to be doing that and it hit um Cam Newton
Speaker 1: like that, and it's like you've got your way more
Speaker 1: than me, Like you know, like I haven't even Cam
Speaker 1: took a dirty shot by all accounts yesterday. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen the replay yet, but so I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know where I'm going back to this defense. And I
Speaker 1: thought this was a really big game because you know,
Speaker 1: we've we've talked about it. I don't think it's dead yet.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they if they decide that they want
Speaker 1: some an upgrade at safety and if they want to,
Speaker 1: you know, make a move, they can still do that. Um.
Speaker 1: I think after this weekend it could happen. You know,
Speaker 1: but you had to win this game. You cannot be
Speaker 1: O and two and be like, all right, now you
Speaker 1: go to Seattle. You could be oh and three. You
Speaker 1: don't want to give up any draft pick because you
Speaker 1: don't know how bad you're going to be. This was
Speaker 1: a really big game to see Ari, what do we have.
Speaker 1: Our offense is pretty it's okay, it's average, and the
Speaker 1: defense is above average. You could maybe get a player
Speaker 1: that could make your deep because you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: win games with an exceptional defense, and I think they're
Speaker 1: really good. I think you can get exceptional though, And
Speaker 1: I think the other side of that is also true.
Speaker 1: I think if they should have some struggles a night,
Speaker 1: if Seattle has some struggles a night, and then the
Speaker 1: Cowboys go to Seattle and beat them as well, then
Speaker 1: I think that could also on the other side, make
Speaker 1: them say what are we playing for? Right now, you're
Speaker 1: talking I was just talking in general, you're actually specifically. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about it from the standpoint of it has
Speaker 1: to be a two way deal. Everybody's got to give him.
Speaker 1: Everybody's got to get making a trade. You mean that guy, Yes,
Speaker 1: that guy. I'm talking. Who would you trade for if
Speaker 1: not that guy? Oh? I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: safeties in the league. Everybody's got four. We can go
Speaker 1: down the list, got four and now I'm just kidding, Okay,
Speaker 1: bring him home? What is it own home? Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1: I think that this is nothing against the safeties that
Speaker 1: they have. I thought Cavon's pretty good time tackles out there,
Speaker 1: but you know, like his role would be perfectly fine
Speaker 1: if it was if he was the third safety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really I love him being the third safety. Play
Speaker 1: a lot on special teams, come into the game, your
Speaker 1: physical you know, box player. Great, same was Davier Woods
Speaker 1: when he comes back. There's a good role for these guys.
Speaker 1: He actually plays in the slot. You can get better
Speaker 1: than what you have with maybe Anthony Brown. How unlike
Speaker 1: our how often do you just see blockbuster player trades
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Isn't just let me let me make
Speaker 1: them a lot? Not a lot, but but more lately,
Speaker 1: I think every season you see a couple how often?
Speaker 1: And I'm this is gonna be good, so just bear
Speaker 1: with me, But just how often do you see that
Speaker 1: happen once the season has started? Not as much. So
Speaker 1: if against all odds it does happen, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: on record and say I'm gonna buy Nick a cookie
Speaker 1: cake for all of his hard work and determination to
Speaker 1: see this thing. So you think you think Nick will
Speaker 1: have influenced that if it actually happens, No, just it's
Speaker 1: it's amber in the East and it comes back to you.
Speaker 1: To quote shy La buff don't let your dreams be dreams,
Speaker 1: you know. So we'll just you know, we'll have a
Speaker 1: cookie cake party cream. If it happens no cookie, it's nick,
Speaker 1: Well we'll talk about it. Cookie cake. Yeah yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: he'd rather just have a twelve hack of beer. I
Speaker 1: don't know. All I know is there's some sugar. Isn't
Speaker 1: always knicks, friends, They might not be the cookie cuts right.
Speaker 1: That might be a bad idea. But you look at
Speaker 1: this defense last night. Think about this. They held in
Speaker 1: New York to a punt on the first five possessions.
Speaker 1: They didn't allow them past midfield in the first half,
Speaker 1: in the entire first half, they forced to fumble in
Speaker 1: the third quarters, getting turnovers. They had the six sacks.
Speaker 1: It seems like all the different things measures you look
Speaker 1: at for what a defense does and how you want
Speaker 1: to evaluate their performance, they did it. So here's my question,
Speaker 1: what is this defense not doing well where they need
Speaker 1: to improve before? Before we get to that, before we
Speaker 1: get that, we just talked about a bunch of food. Yea,
Speaker 1: these these two guys, I mean Taco Cheeto. Seriously, they
Speaker 1: both played Somebody stopped Odell Beckham from doing anything. They
Speaker 1: covered in well and Tacco Byron too. Don't those corners
Speaker 1: are doing really well? But I really like what Cheetos
Speaker 1: ringing on the outside. I think he is a physical presence.
Speaker 1: They just haven't had the same with Byron Taco Charlton
Speaker 1: though he's really taking that next level. We're not even
Speaker 1: talking about the fact that I think your most freakish
Speaker 1: defensive player with the best talent it is not here yet.
Speaker 1: Like that he might be. No, I still don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. I think your most freakish
Speaker 1: defensive player is was an active in Randy Gregory. And
Speaker 1: if Randy Gregory comes back and does the snaps that
Speaker 1: Dorrance Armstrong was getting, Um asked the Actually, I wasn't
Speaker 1: talking about Earl Thomas. I meant David Irving, by the way, Actually,
Speaker 1: and we forget about David Irving and David Irving. You're
Speaker 1: right when it comes to he's with time and seasons
Speaker 1: before he gets in there for some reason. As soon
Speaker 1: as he gets in there, he makes it. He makes
Speaker 1: an impact, right, I mean all three of those guys
Speaker 1: with what you have. You replace Cavan with whoever, that
Speaker 1: guy somebody. You Replacedrance Armstrong with that guy, and you
Speaker 1: replaced um probably Antoine Woods. No, just replace Antoine. He's
Speaker 1: a hot boy. I'm not cutting rans Armstrong either. I'm
Speaker 1: saying I'm talking about in your rotation of third and eight,
Speaker 1: we got to get off the field. You're looking at Gregory,
Speaker 1: You're looking at d Law, Irving, Tyrone Crawford, maybe Taco
Speaker 1: in there as well. You got that guy out at safety.
Speaker 1: We're just putting them here already. It's gonna happen. I
Speaker 1: want my damn out in the eight there, man, I'm
Speaker 1: telling he's just there. I'm like, I took this is
Speaker 1: a bad Giants team, and I don't want to overreact
Speaker 1: for the millionth time, but it's awful. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it is encouraging, and it's not crazy to think that
Speaker 1: this could be the first time that the Dallas defense
Speaker 1: is an asset that's going to help them win games,
Speaker 1: like actively win games games for the first time in
Speaker 1: a long time. I make just one slight adjustment to that,
Speaker 1: or at least I'll make the point. You guys tell
Speaker 1: me I could be crazy on this one. I know
Speaker 1: you guys say the Giants aren't a good team. Have
Speaker 1: we thought about the fact that last week they played
Speaker 1: what might be the best team in the NFL in
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars and played them to five point deficit. Right,
Speaker 1: And then they played the Cowboys this week. And again
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Cowboys are great, but could the Cowboys
Speaker 1: be better than what you're thinking and the Giants could
Speaker 1: be a pretty good team. They just played two equally
Speaker 1: good you know, you know, one much better than last year.
Speaker 1: It was a similar game nineteen to three Cowboys a
Speaker 1: week one of the season, and you know, you kind
Speaker 1: of thought, wow, this is really good because the Giants
Speaker 1: were good last year and we were kind of three
Speaker 1: of us kind of were like, this is a really
Speaker 1: good win. It was a good win. But Amber was saying,
Speaker 1: you know, I saw some issues there. You know, it
Speaker 1: was still a good win, but the fact of like,
Speaker 1: you know, you can see some problems. Yeah, but are
Speaker 1: you talking about where the Cowboys are for the Giants, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about really for the for the Cowboys here,
Speaker 1: but because we didn't really think the Giants were gonna
Speaker 1: go four and twelve. Yeah, and the wheels fell off
Speaker 1: off there them because of the players that they lost.
Speaker 1: They did so. But my point is is that sometimes
Speaker 1: still early in the year like that, it's hard to
Speaker 1: tell what's going to happen. You can still see some missues.
Speaker 1: We see some issues on offense. Here, defense looks pretty good.
Speaker 1: It'll get better. They'll face some better teams, but you know,
Speaker 1: just different types of challenges. I think you've got a
Speaker 1: combination of the Week one and Week two quarterback. You
Speaker 1: have a combination or that. In Week three, you got
Speaker 1: a better passer, you got a mobile guy. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna drag defenders like that, but he's gonna get away
Speaker 1: from him. Yeah, but you don't. Honestly, I think these
Speaker 1: next two weeks, I think the Cowboys will face what
Speaker 1: they've already faced from the standpoint that they will be
Speaker 1: teams that are really good at something, so whatever that
Speaker 1: thing is. Like Detroit, the challenge is gonna be. They
Speaker 1: got some good receivers over there in Detroit, right And
Speaker 1: with Seattle's gonna be you're probably gonna face the best
Speaker 1: quarterback you face so far this year. So there's kind
Speaker 1: of different. But all of them have their awards, just
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys have their awards. It's not until you
Speaker 1: get into the month of October that you're gonna face
Speaker 1: some teams there that have that do a few things, well,
Speaker 1: a few things really well, and then you got to
Speaker 1: try to stop that, right iron I mean we say,
Speaker 1: we say it all the time, like, oh, don't don't
Speaker 1: try to assign wins and losses before the season starts.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bucks are two and oh no doubt.
Speaker 1: December just got hard. The Texans are oh and two. Now.
Speaker 1: Of course, if Jamis comes back, then maybe maybe that's
Speaker 1: not that's hard. I want. I want to. I want
Speaker 1: to Patrick is playing his butt off if they don't,
Speaker 1: if they do sit him, I mean, you're kind of
Speaker 1: hoping if you're a Cowboys fan, by December, he's not
Speaker 1: playing anymore, because, trust me, he's playing better than Jamis
Speaker 1: has played since he's been in ten. Trust mean, when
Speaker 1: a guy gets hurt and he comes back at quarterback
Speaker 1: and keeps his job right, it doesn't matter how well
Speaker 1: the guy's playing. You keep your job right. Ways you
Speaker 1: don't get you can't lose your job to injury, and
Speaker 1: that the same. I want to. I want to steal
Speaker 1: just one more thing. I love this stats from a
Speaker 1: Giant speed reporter, actually, Dan duggan U. The Giants had
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty five yards last night. One hundred
Speaker 1: and eight of those came on their last two drives
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys were very clearly basically playing prevent, which
Speaker 1: I don't like, but it's I mean, they went into
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys went up twenty to three, the Giants
Speaker 1: had what's that I can't do math? They had like
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards of offense. I mean it's awesome.
Speaker 1: I get it. It's frustrating when you're when you're having
Speaker 1: this great success and then all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: score looks a lot closer than the game really was.
Speaker 1: But the only way we saw this and you guys
Speaker 1: were barely born, but I mean, we saw this game
Speaker 1: two thousand and five. I don't know if you remember
Speaker 1: that game against the Redskins Week two. I'm just stalling
Speaker 1: high school, you know, I mean two. I think it
Speaker 1: was two thousand and five. Remember they thirteen nothing or
Speaker 1: in the Redskins, they had the triplets and the Ring
Speaker 1: of Honors. Great night. All of a sudden, Mark Brunel
Speaker 1: hit Santana Moss two deep touchdowns, Boom boom. You lose
Speaker 1: fourteen thirteen. The only way you're gonna lose is if
Speaker 1: you give up something cheap and quick, and he's got
Speaker 1: you gotta play the clock and grinded Ingramming Barkley touch
Speaker 1: down and then Blake Jarwin's is great hands missus the
Speaker 1: plan and the clock is on your on your team
Speaker 1: at that point, you gotta use it, right, Which from
Speaker 1: the time, like Jarwin giving you anything? Is he doing anything?
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, I mean what does he do? He? Um?
Speaker 1: I made his case to not be on hands team, right,
Speaker 1: And I don't want to just say that because that's
Speaker 1: what we think about, but I mean, well, but no, Honestly,
Speaker 1: at this point, what you're getting is you're getting what
Speaker 1: you kind of expect that you would get from a
Speaker 1: tight end position. You knew what you get from Swam.
Speaker 1: He was going to be solid, right, and that's what
Speaker 1: you're kind of getting from him. But you didn't. Did
Speaker 1: you really expect that Jarwin was gonna bust on the
Speaker 1: scene and give you anything? Did you really expect that?
Speaker 1: Which you watch the rookie and training camp, I'd expected
Speaker 1: nothing from him. So if you want to do this,
Speaker 1: we can't. I mean, honestly, Jeff Swain is acquitting himself
Speaker 1: quite nicely. I think. I mean, he's not gonna catch
Speaker 1: sixty passes for six hundred yards, Like, but he's doing
Speaker 1: what you expect. No, I mean he had several really
Speaker 1: key blocks that opened up other plays ye last week
Speaker 1: and passes, he's opening the end zone on one play.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's doing his job. Why do we have
Speaker 1: to do this twelve and thirteen personnel stuff? Like? Why
Speaker 1: why are they going out there in an empty set
Speaker 1: with two tight ends? Why? Yes? Why? Yeah? Get Why
Speaker 1: why can't they get smaller and spread the field? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Those are the opportunities where I'm like, if
Speaker 1: you want to find a reason a way to get
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin on the field, there you go right there,
Speaker 1: get the two tight ends off the field. I want
Speaker 1: to read it out anyway. I wanted to do it
Speaker 1: last year with Ryan Switzer and they, I mean and
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. It certainly appears to be better than Ryan Switzer.
Speaker 1: I just I don't understand it, and I've never I've
Speaker 1: never designed a game plan in my life. I bet
Speaker 1: I would be sucky at it. The only thing I
Speaker 1: don't like it at all. The only thing I could
Speaker 1: think of is that it's it's their way of being
Speaker 1: able to force a particular personnel group onto the field.
Speaker 1: So if they want to keep linebackers on the field
Speaker 1: rather than extra dbs, that's a way to do it.
Speaker 1: You show twelve personnel and then you spread them out.
Speaker 1: Now again, that's the only thing I can think of
Speaker 1: that would why do you want why why do you
Speaker 1: want linebackers on the field instead of dbs when you
Speaker 1: have a two hundred and twenty pound running back and
Speaker 1: at two hundred and thirty pound quarterback. Let's see, Okay,
Speaker 1: well they're not at that point. The running back isn't
Speaker 1: in the back. I get your point. I get your
Speaker 1: point there. But the problem is is your your tight
Speaker 1: ends that you have aren't these dual threat tight ends
Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, you want to bring linebackers watch this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna spread swam here when you're coming downfield. This
Speaker 1: is an ingram. They can't do that. Because I'm with you,
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm saying that's the only thing I can
Speaker 1: come up with that makes it to where it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: that could be a reason why they would do it.
Speaker 1: I still don't get the logic of it, but that
Speaker 1: would be the only thing I think I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: and I've said this a couple of weeks ago. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it again. I really think this team needs
Speaker 1: to utilize Jama's old Wally more. I think he can
Speaker 1: be a versatile fullback. I think he can get the
Speaker 1: ball out in the backfield. I think he can do
Speaker 1: those types of things that you want and with a
Speaker 1: little bit of versatility. They're not utilizing him enough, and
Speaker 1: I think he could be more of a lead blocker.
Speaker 1: But he also can play that h BA role tight end.
Speaker 1: They're not using him a lot now. He played more
Speaker 1: this week, did some blocking. I still think that there's
Speaker 1: a role for him. Yeah, I think they have to
Speaker 1: find a way. In my opinion, if they're looking for
Speaker 1: ways to get those receivers on the field and involve more,
Speaker 1: it means taking the tight ends off the field, and
Speaker 1: I think that's better for this team overall. I think
Speaker 1: Age made a really good point at the top of
Speaker 1: the show, which is like there's a difference between what
Speaker 1: they want to do and what they need to do.
Speaker 1: She said they've given up they right well to. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: she's wrong about that, Like they can do whatever the
Speaker 1: hell they want. There's only like one or two people
Speaker 1: that have the power to change that, but well, it's
Speaker 1: pretty easy. Do you want to win or do you
Speaker 1: want to lose? Please, let's get you into this meeting room.
Speaker 1: Let's get you in there. But I so there's there's
Speaker 1: what they what they want to do is that stuff,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it works very well. And we've
Speaker 1: gotten two game sample size to back me up on that.
Speaker 1: So we'll see where it goes from here. Well, we'll
Speaker 1: see how it goes. They got some some challenges coming up.
Speaker 1: I think the fact as though, that these next two
Speaker 1: weeks they do have a little bit of a reprieve
Speaker 1: to try to figure some other things out because they're
Speaker 1: not playing great teams. They're playing teams that are probably
Speaker 1: where they are pretty good, have some things they do well,
Speaker 1: also have some warts. I think these next two weeks
Speaker 1: you got to try to figure something out before you
Speaker 1: get into the media schedule. That's saying college football, man,
Speaker 1: that's not how this works. What do you mean? I
Speaker 1: mean like every week is gonna like no reprieve going
Speaker 1: on the road to see I don't know, you don't
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's not what I was saying. The point
Speaker 1: of our winnables not yes, you're not going up against
Speaker 1: the best teams in the league. These next two weeks,
Speaker 1: You're going up against good teams that have certain things
Speaker 1: that they do really well. You're gonna have to defend
Speaker 1: and certain ways that you may be able to exploit them,
Speaker 1: but you also can get exploited. But there aren't the
Speaker 1: best teams in the league you're facing these next two weeks,
Speaker 1: so you do have a little room to figure some
Speaker 1: things out before you have to face a team like Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: before you have some other teams that are on your
Speaker 1: schedule that are much tougher competition than what you're what
Speaker 1: you face so far. You know, like I said earlier on,
Speaker 1: you know you're one and one for these two games.
Speaker 1: You have a good chance probably you could be two
Speaker 1: and two there. That's just how it works. Building. Just
Speaker 1: work your way right on update and Nate, is that
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Yes, that's the way. That's the way
Speaker 1: it's looking right now. Let's hope not. Let's hope that.
Speaker 1: Let's hope not. All right, We appreciate you guys, join us.
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