1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to twenty nine, 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: episode four of Like Guys Stay production of I Heart Radio. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. Is Thursday, March, which of course 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: means that it is National cheese Steak Day. We go Philly. Yeah, Jackie, 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: it's also a chocolate covered raisin day, which I have 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: come to enjoy less and less as I get older. 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Really gives me digestive issues. What about the did you 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: ever eat the yogurt covered raisins? Yeah? Those are kind 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: of gross, but I used to like them. I used 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: to just like any little sugar pellet that I could 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: get in my mouth. Right, those felt like and they 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: got fruit. They feel like they think you go to 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: the store and there would be like you could get 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: like loose nuts or candy out of this thing at 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: the grocery store, and like the yogurt covered ones on it. Like, man, Mom, 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: I should like those are like vegetables practically, She's like, no, basically, yeah, 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: because you're hitting two food groups. Yeah, good news. I 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: mean acid off list. I mean, we just heard about 20 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: all of the benefits of acid off list. This is 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: the early nighties. Everyone's going, you know, bonkers over acidoflist. 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what is that. It's like the live 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: cultures and yogurt. I remember my dad was like, we 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: need that acidopulist and I was like, what I would 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: remember We would eat drink like capfuls of acid, afulist 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: and ship he was. He was about that digestive ship. 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: My family was big on yogurt and grape nuts. That 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 1: those are staple. Hey, you're getting that acid office anyway, 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: I was getting there. They didn't tell me. They knew 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't pronounce or remember those sorts of words. But anyways, 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien a kit la la la 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: la la plus uh. That is courtesy Events Jets and 33 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: I think I mispronounced will Blues on the Trending episode 34 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: Tuesday when we talked about it. There's also we missed 35 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: a big we missed a big story attached to a 36 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: lot of Blues that we're gonna have to get to 37 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: a little later on today. But one of the names 38 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: on that marquee that announced all the people who are 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: performing at While Blues was David Solomon formerly desal currently 40 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: CEO of Goldman, Sex and also a electronic music DJ, 41 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: so we need to talk about that. I'm thrilled to 42 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: be joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Grave. 43 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: And it seems to me that you lived your life 44 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: like a candle you can eat slowly turning into gravy 45 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: for me to drown my meat. Okay, shout out to 46 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: Scouty Magoo on the discord. Yes, the KFC gravy candle, 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: amongst other things like eating apples from the bottom, has 48 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: also taken over the discourse on this the first that 49 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: was the first not non apple from the bottom a 50 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: k in weeks there was something about Elton John and 51 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: a gravy candle that I couldn't be, so shout out 52 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: to you, SCOUTI Magoo on the discord. Yeah yeah, well, Miles, 53 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: we are thrilled fortunate to be joined in our third 54 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: seat by an Emmy nominated host who has worked for 55 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: The Onion, The Daily Show, and advised the Obama White House. 56 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: This is a New York Times best selling author delivered 57 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: what Brian Williams called one of the greatest ted talks 58 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: of all time, and most importantly, by far more important 59 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: than any of that bullshit is the creator and host 60 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: of How the Citizen with barratun Day, one of the 61 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: best podcasts on this or any network. Please welcome the 62 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: brilliant and talented bird. Oh my goodness, I am Actually 63 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: my most important bio link is that I'm a child 64 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: of both grape nuts and excessive amounts of asidophilis. So 65 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: thank you both, Jackie Miles. Good to be reunited with y'all. 66 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: Thanks for helping give birth to that podcast. And it's 67 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: good to be here on your show that Yeah, wait, 68 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: so you were on that acid Oh yeah. My mom 69 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: was into cod liver oil, acidophilist, like anything that was 70 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: in the Healthful co Op. And she said if she 71 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: said the word a lot, they were a little We 72 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: had to keep it in the refrigerator. We acidophulist caplets, 73 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: so we didn't drink it. I never Oh god, it's 74 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: a great word to say. It is a word that 75 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: I will Yeah, I will now be finding a way 76 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: to inject just just so I can get my mouth 77 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: around the acidophi. It's a stage like DJ acidophilis, Yeah, 78 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: David Solomon, are you listening acidophilis? Yeah? It sounds like yeah, 79 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: an amazing like just trippy back has the psychedelic vibe, 80 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: and that's that's really all the rage. Now. Yeah, it's 81 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: like Jim Henson had let the acid take hold a 82 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: little bit longer and stronger, that would have been the 83 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: name of snuffle up Agains right, Yes, oh man, just 84 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: snuffy just out there in the streets, just I want 85 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: to see that. But all he would do is just 86 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: wave his hand in front of his face, getting these 87 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: trails on my arm, like what aidos? Oh man, those 88 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: eyelashes dropping acidophilis. That's dropping some acidophilis right down the esophagus. 89 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: It's a It is a word that seems like it 90 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: was designed to be used by ghost Face Killer at 91 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: some point. Right, the fact that he didn't use it, 92 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: as far as I know, we gotta we gotta check 93 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: that out. I look up the literature. I mean, if 94 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: you go the full name Lactobacillus asidophilist educated quick. I 95 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: just had to google that, had to Wikipedia that one 96 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: summoned it. But yeah, yeah, oh wow, wow, Well, happy 97 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: days to both of y'all. Good to be here, yea 98 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: yeah he as well. All right, well, Barrey, today we're 99 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: going to get to know you a little bit better. 100 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: In a moment. First, we're gonna tell our little snars 101 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: a couple of things. We're talking about Mike Bronze, Senator. 102 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: Mike Bronze clan hood seemed to have slipped off momentarily 103 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: in an interview, threw that back on, but did a 104 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: bad job that was still still visible even in his 105 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: apology statements. So we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna 106 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: talk about Mo Brooks. We just Mo Brooks. It's always, 107 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: it's always a treat. The man who spoke at the 108 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: January six rally and yelled are you ready to sacrifice 109 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: your blood? That that was a bad Mo Brooks. But 110 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: we we got to talk about this man. We're gonna 111 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: talk about the TikTok to Hollywood pipeline. So we'll talk 112 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: about all of that plenty more. But before we get 113 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: to any of it, we do like to ask our guests, 114 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: baritone there, what is something from your search history? Okay, uh, 115 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: the words charting was recently added to my search history. 116 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, did you not know what it was? You just? Yeah, 117 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: not shar ting, sharding with ding. Yeah, yeah, it's I 118 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 1: kind of gonna get our heads. I've heard a little 119 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: giggle and I was like, Oh, they're not They're not 120 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: thinking the same word. I'm thinking, I'm not crypto minded 121 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: over here, more middle school minded. Middle school guest that 122 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: that middle school mindset. Yeah, Yeah, I've been I've been 123 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: diving more into this crypto world and like the way 124 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: that it could affect our world for better and for worse. 125 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: And I saw this profile of Metalic Buteran, the Ethereum founder. Yeah, 126 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: I talked about it the other and the article mentions charting, 127 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: and I thought that it was a time profile of 128 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: him the cover story and the author of this article 129 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: just dropped the word charting like everybody knows what it means. 130 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: A couple of moments like yeah, and I know a 131 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: lot about computer stuff, and i'd like read the Bitcoin 132 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: white paper. Don't mean to brag, but you know in 133 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: its original English, Like I just I dubbed the all 134 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: nine pages because I don't think I know what charting is. 135 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: And it's way you distributed data based across multiple servers. 136 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: So the concept is pretty basic, but the word is 137 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: not common. So for the writers at time, you know, 138 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: define your terms, you know, but you put more words 139 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: people don't know, then you're less likely to ask questions 140 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right, or people think it's 141 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: charting and they yeah, no, I know that we hate that, right, 142 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh so like a wet fart, Yeah, 143 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: we definitely don't want wet farts, right unless you do? 144 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: Unless you do, which is which is fine. I mean, 145 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what are You're not here to judge 146 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: the wet fart brigade. You don't want to. You don't 147 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: get taken out by that. You know they're gonna come 148 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: from charting twitters coming for you. It was raised as 149 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: something good or like a possibility of something that like 150 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: Metallic wants them to invest in. So here's what's really fascinating. 151 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: I don't remember. I might do a quick miles and 152 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: then look out because I was so distracted and disappointed 153 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: by them just dropping the word in there that I 154 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: went down this rabbit hole to look it up and 155 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: I came back to an article and didn't even reread 156 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: the sentence that they used in it, and I was like, 157 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: now I know more stuff good for me anyway, now, 158 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: as a as a crypto and n f T skeptic, 159 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: I found that article pretty enlightening. Both I hadn't really 160 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: read anybody who like did a good job of kind 161 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: of laying out the promise of crypto all that, all 162 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: that well, but at the same time, like a lot 163 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: of the things, it does seem like the thing sort 164 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: of gravitates towards the same problems over and over again. Yeah. 165 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: We I mean, I think I'm a hopeful person for 166 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: better and what is going on here? Sorry about that 167 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: audio interference there, because we didn't hear you didn't hear that. 168 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: It was just in my head the advertising hellscape that 169 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: we were subject to. I pulled up that assaulted by 170 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: an auto play ad for Google, which is great because 171 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: it's like the opposite of the decentralized world that we 172 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: started talking about. Have you heard of Google? Have you 173 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: heard of this place? Google? Want to get into that? Miles, 174 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: don't you look it up real quick on the search engine. 175 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: It's weird when I just the homepage comes up for people? 176 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: What up real quick? Oh my goodness. So yeah, so 177 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: they were They just quoted him talking about like if 178 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: we don't have charting fast enough, people might migrate to 179 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: other more centralized solutions. Basically, if the theory of service 180 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: isn't fast and that people will roll off it onto 181 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: something else. But to you to the larger point, I'm 182 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: optimistic and skeptical at the same time. I like the 183 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: idea of building a whole new world um and and 184 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm skeptical that it will just happen on its own 185 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: and we need more people nudging this, this new opportunity 186 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: towards something that can serve more of us, or left 187 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: to its own devices, we will be overrun by the 188 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: get rich off of gifts brigade and j pegs. And 189 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the world I want to be 190 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: living in. But I don't write off the whole thing. 191 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: I think it's really it's worth understanding and and for me, 192 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: it's worth participating to to help push it towards something 193 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: better than than the current Hell, all right, how much 194 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: of a daunting task do you see that as being? 195 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: Because I feel like, like, as you're an optimist, I 196 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: look at it and I'm like, right, all the same 197 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: problems are happening because once you factor in human greed, 198 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: it becomes it's off to the races. So are like, 199 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: are are we on the verge of seeing something that 200 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: is more in line with like sort of what the 201 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, the optimistic read of what crypto can give 202 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: us is like, are we are we closer to that 203 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: or because it's right now, it seems like the greedy 204 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: people are winning like this sort of are they're They're 205 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: definitely dominating the story of what's possible with this tech. 206 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: I think there's enough folks who have been skeptical of 207 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: how tech well just magically create a better world, Like 208 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: if we just give every kid a laptop, they'll definitely 209 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: only use it for educational purposes and that will make 210 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: people the better place. Like that didn't happen, and we've 211 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: seen the harm, whether it's like teen suicide stuff, body image, misinformation, 212 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: all the stuff that that you well know, we don't. 213 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: We can't believe ignorance anymore, and we are capable of 214 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: creating new stuff, like we've created new countries. You know. 215 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't. But I'm hoping 216 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: that that increased awareness is brought to bear on how 217 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: we build the thing. From a direct evidence perspective, there's 218 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: it seems to me um and I don't have the 219 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: numbers right in front of me, but there's a higher 220 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: percentage of participation in this wave of Internet slash finance 221 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: by say Black people than there was at Web two 222 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: and Web one or other financial tools that we were 223 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: explicitly barred from participating in, like homeownership, you know that 224 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: little thing. So I think there's a historical hunger by 225 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: certain communities to make sure that we're at the table 226 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: rather than on the table in this time around. And 227 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: I there's no guarantees, and I skepticism is well earned, 228 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: but I think merely being skeptical, for me, it just 229 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: paralyzes me. And so let's get let's get in there 230 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: and try not to get distracted by the current noise 231 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: and uh, and hope that from a regulatory perspective and 232 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: a creative perspective, we set up things that that are 233 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: better serving us than than what we're trying to exit from. Right, right, right, 234 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated? Oh, my goodness, 235 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: over rated? As Adolphus No, But I say this as 236 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: a still new Californian. I've been here three years now, 237 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: and I think in and out Burger is extraordinarily overrated. Yeah, 238 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, go ahead. No, Miles is openly weeping, right, 239 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: would be more specific. The fries. They should stop, they 240 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: should stop selling. That's the one thing I'm like yeah, yeah, great, 241 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: Just they taste like cardboard. Even when you do the 242 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: hack and the double frying thing, they require so much 243 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: catch up. They're just they're not they're not good. They're 244 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: driving and they tastes like packaging that you would put 245 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: the burger in. But I don't double fry. I asked 246 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: for light fry. I like weepy and soggy. Yeah, like 247 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: a little mashed potato sticks. I talked about this a 248 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: lot to people, like what's wrong with you? I'm like, 249 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, but that's really how 250 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: I operate. But yeah, I definitely, uh you know, I'm 251 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: I think the more that like this take comes up, 252 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm the less inclined I am to be like, what 253 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: the funk? Because no, not even then, I'm like when 254 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: I look at him, like, I used to eat it 255 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: out a lot, like when I was in college. That 256 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: was like the height of eating for me. But as 257 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: I get older and I'm like, I don't need to 258 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: eat that much sodium like on the regular. Because let's 259 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: be real, the secret to any the reason why people 260 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: think in and out taste good is because those patties 261 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: are salted to high hell. And now that I don't 262 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: eat as much. I'm like, yeah, I mean, there are 263 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: other burgers out there that I prefer to eat, but 264 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is. I'm less tied 265 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: to the regional defense of in and out, especially now 266 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: because they're you know, they have interesting business practices to 267 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: so now that of your cellular matter is not made 268 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: up of in and out burger food like some constituted 269 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: as I'm proud of you. Yeah. Yeah, my arteries thank 270 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: me as well. I think my blood pressure cuff. My 271 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: wife just she's you know, normally does not funk with 272 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: fast food at all, like or even yeah, she's very 273 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: strict about like what our kids are allowed to eat, 274 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: what she's allowed to eat. She went in and out 275 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: with our kids like a couple of weeks ago and 276 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: came back saying the praises of like she discovered that 277 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: you can put chili peppers in like all of and 278 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: that apparently really like plused it up for her to 279 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: the to the degree that I might be able to 280 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: go to in an outburger with my family again in 281 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: the future. The degree to which they have more items 282 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: not on the menu than on the menu, I also 283 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: find troublesome. It actually it kind of reminds me of 284 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: like the n f T world, you know, to bring 285 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: it back. It's like you have a secret community. It's 286 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: like the little discord server and you've gotta unlocked stuff, 287 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: which just the right you know pass phrase. Yeah, they're 288 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: the original. You don't know about animal fries, They're like 289 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: is it on the menu? Fool not knowing about scharting, 290 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean exactly, just look like an asshole. 291 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated? I think empty 292 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: time in the schedule is underrated. I think basically nonproductive 293 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: time is severely underrated by myself and by the wider 294 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: society that always wants you to be hustling and doing 295 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: and demonstrating how much of hustling and doing, And just 296 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: like emptiness is a is a great feature because I say, 297 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: is this a new realization? Is this something you have 298 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: philosophy you've held dear? Because I know in the time 299 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: we've worked together, Like I think Barrett tun Day is 300 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: like one of the most hardest working people I have 301 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: ever met. He has going on all the time. All 302 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: I Okay, maybe this is what how do we get here? 303 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: That's a that's a that's an excellent and uh an 304 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: intimate question because because it is something that I don't 305 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: always believe and I certainly don't always practice. So it's 306 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: a realization I've come to a number of times, but 307 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: every time I rediscover it, I'm like, all right, I 308 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: don't like I need to schedule blank spots to just 309 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: have time to think loosely, like not listening to a podcast, 310 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: not binging on some programming, not in a meeting, not writing, 311 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: not intentionally making anything happen, just like Space the Final Frontier. 312 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: And so it's it's new again, and it's something I 313 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: really just have been feeling over the past week as 314 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: I had the thought that you have about me from 315 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: the outside, I also share from like oh maybe I'm 316 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: up to do many things, um, and how am I 317 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: gonna push to get it all done? And instead? And 318 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: then in my mind, I'm like, that's how you become 319 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: a best selling on what we were going to talk 320 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: about with TikTok and like that that pipeline, because yeah, 321 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: I have the underlying question of whether you know our 322 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: next generation of like great actors and directors and creators 323 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: are being just swallowed up by not like busy work, 324 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: but like the very small and disposable creations of like 325 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: social media, you know, like oh okay, okay, we're going 326 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: we're going to you know that that ties back to 327 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: just the importance of boredom. Yeah, that's that's That's another 328 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: way of saying what I'm thinking about underrated and I 329 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: think we we perform productivity, right. We it's kind of 330 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: hard to show that you're not doing things or you 331 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: feel some sense of shame if you just post like 332 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: just chilling doing nothing. And also maybe you're not doing 333 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: nothing because you're is posted about how you're doing nothing, right, 334 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's just so much of our I have 335 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: definitely drank the kool aid, or actually I don't know 336 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: if I drank it. I think I've been like water 337 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: boarded by the kool aid of productivity, and so it 338 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: ended up in my my digestive system, but also in 339 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: my lungs and my eyes and like every other part. 340 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: Because we're trying to get ahead, like we're trying to 341 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: generate more, we're trying to achieve and and feel like 342 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: we have some purpose, and that's so much tied up 343 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: in just doing a bunch of stuff. So just pausing 344 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: to to get off of that race off of that track. 345 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: It's quite difficult. And then you know, we set up 346 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 1: an economy where it's kind of required too, because you know, 347 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: it's it's hard to afford a home. You know, even 348 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: if you have money, it's hard to know you don't 349 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: have money like it. Nope. You know, So there's a 350 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: there's a there's a trap that we're locked in around 351 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: this productivity thing that occasionally rears its head and I'm like, oh, 352 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: there's another way to be Oh yeah, and then I 353 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: crank out some tiptoks about my new found insights. Follow me, 354 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: follow me, follow me a third eye bear Ton Day. Yeah, yeah, 355 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: sign up for my course. Uh? You know, was that 356 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: was like the hustle culture? Where do you think it 357 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: got really big? Like in college? Was was at university? 358 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: Does it get like that because you know you had 359 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: a really competitive school, a lot of people achieving things. 360 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: Is that sort of like the beginning of sort of 361 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: completely cementing this philosophical pitfall? It's um, I think it was. 362 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: You know, I grew up with a deep sense of 363 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: the sacrifice my mother made to provide you with a 364 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities, to shield me from some of them 365 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: more perilous parts of life, growing up in the crack 366 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: wars d c. Eighties, all of that. So I think 367 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: I carried a little bit of a burden of debt 368 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: or like I got to earn this, I gotta beat 369 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: the return on her investment. And then by the time 370 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: I got to college, it was a safe place to 371 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: experiment with wildly unhealthy behaviors about trying to get ahead. 372 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: I just tried to sleep every other night for a 373 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: couple of months or a couple of weeks, or then 374 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: I would do like I'll do four four hours tonight 375 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: and eight hours tomorrow night and fours to night hours 376 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: to morrow, or just pushed myself to like not sleep 377 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: and see how much I could get done, which I'm 378 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: still convinced is why I don't remember a lot of college. 379 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: I didn't drink at all during college. There was no 380 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: bit drinking or any of that destroying brain cells. It 381 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: was just but the same effect happens through when I 382 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: started learning about the long term health effects that helps 383 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: slow me down. When I met my now wife, Elizabeth, 384 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: she is the opposite. Like she really respects contemplation, time 385 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: to synthathesize rest, and you know, she rubbed off on me, 386 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: I think a little more than I rubbed off on her, 387 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: which is I think that healthy for both of us, 388 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: which is encouraging me to to pause and breathe. And 389 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: then what I found is maybe you know, to your 390 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: point Jack about creative production, I can have bigger and 391 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: better ideas if I'm not constantly cranking out tiny ideas 392 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: and so just creating it's a little it takes a 393 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: bit of faith because you don't see it in the 394 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: short term. But I'm not doing anything in the next 395 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: five minutes to prove that I'm a productive member of society. 396 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: But over the next fifty minutes, my mind is just 397 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: processing a lot of this stuff that it's consumed, and 398 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: then five weeks from now, maybe I come up with something. 399 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: I just have an idea, quote unquote, but it's it's 400 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: the idea is the result of space that you know, 401 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: the hamster wheel would never allow me for So it's 402 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things you have to like 403 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: trust you know, a different process and just know that 404 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: things might emerge on the other side rather than what 405 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: you can see tangibly in the short term. And like pushing, pushing, pushing, Yeah, yeah, 406 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: So TikTok is bad. I don't know. I still wake 407 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: up at three every morning and work out like Mark 408 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: Wahlberg and The Rock good for you? Really do you 409 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 1: really wake up through the I just find that like 410 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: that's the new unhealthy sleep habit doujore that people are 411 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: like this means you're truly on your grind is if 412 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: you wake up like at the time that most people 413 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: are like just starting to enter rem sleep and uh 414 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: and start lifting weights. That's Mark Wahlberg and The Rock 415 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: both through. Yeah, I believe, so I know Mark Waulberg does. 416 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: I mean it helps that they have probably personal butlers 417 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: and private trainers and people to take care of all 418 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: the other stuff that the restaurants have to do, just 419 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: take over driving when they fall asleep at the wheel. 420 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he Mark Wahlberg has to wake up 421 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: and then eat a meal that's prepared for him and 422 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: work out with a person that's waiting for him to 423 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: walk him through it. And then he gets into like 424 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: cryo chamber or whatever it is, right, pop some acidophilus, 425 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: you know, beer bonga gallana acid awfulest and then you 426 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: go broke. All right, let's take you a quick break 427 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: and we'll come back and talk some politics and we're back. 428 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: Actually everybody could anyone needs a break, No, but I 429 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: will drink of this water. It's my wallbird juice. That's 430 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: awful as that Ali Vera. I remember that wasn't anything 431 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: my dad would have a drinking Yeah. Yeah, we think 432 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: we had the same parents. I think, you know, black boomers. 433 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: There was a moment where like health supplements were like 434 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: the greatest thing you could do for yourself, because there 435 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: was it was like fads. And then my grand my 436 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: dad's parents were gonna like all these other things, like 437 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: they were trying. They got caught up in Tahitian Noni, 438 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: the Tahitian Noni scam. I don't even know about that. 439 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: It's like it's like any it's like herbal life. But 440 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: back then they're like, this is the secret of Tahitians. 441 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: And then it happened in my grandparents church. One person 442 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: was selling it in their church, and then my grandfather 443 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: was like a hustler, was like, well, I can make 444 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: some money off of this, and then like we ended 445 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: up with like boxes of it that no one wanted. 446 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: And see this is this is also a consequence of slavery. 447 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, This is what happens when 448 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: you just take shipped from people generation after generation. Then 449 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: we're just like, we will do anything to get ahead, 450 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: to get a leg up, to be seen as a 451 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: damn human being, to restore our strength, right, so that 452 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: there's this deficit that is like infinitely eternally having to 453 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: be addressed in some way, and like whether that's health 454 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: or financially, there's always this feeling. Yeah, no, for sure, 455 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: thanks America, and we're bad. Keep that in the show. Yeah, leave, 456 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: leave all that. Yeah, yeah, you just came back early 457 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: from break. But now we're back to the show that 458 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 1: we're back. Now, now we're back to the show. We're 459 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: gonna talk Mike Braun. Is that how we're pronouncing his 460 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: name brown Braun whatever. Yeah. So he was doing an 461 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: interview because you know, the Supreme Court is the big 462 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: topic this week. He was just blabbing on about how 463 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: he thought Roe was judicial activism, even though it was 464 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: very popular at the time and still very popular with 465 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: the majority of the country. And then the reporter asked him, well, 466 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: if you're like so into states making decisions, what do 467 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: you think of let's just pull one at random. Loving 468 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: verset Virginia. Okay, Loving verst vigil the decision that legalized 469 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: generational marriage. Yeah, a decision that the Supreme Court unanimously 470 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: decided in favor of because it was so clear that 471 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: the Racial Integrity Act of nineteen twenty four in Virginia 472 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: was such a violation of the loving his constitutional rights. Okay, 473 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: let's hear his answer, because I'm sure he really thought 474 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: this one. So let's we'll just cut into partial his 475 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: answer where he's just being set up. He's like, well, 476 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: what do you think of loving? And he starts blabbing 477 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: on about well, you can't have it both ways and what. 478 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: So he begins to talk about, you know, the diversity 479 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: of our federal system because you can't have it both ways. Uh, 480 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: when you want that diversity to shine within our federal system, 481 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna be rules and proceedings. They're gonna be out 482 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: of sync with maybe what other states would do. It's 483 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: a beauty of the system. And uh, that's where the 484 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: differences among points of view in our fifty states ought 485 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: to express themselves. And I'm not saying that rule would 486 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: apply in general depending on the topic, but it should 487 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: mostly be in general, because it's hard to have it 488 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: on issues that you just are interested in when you 489 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: deny it for others with a different point of view. 490 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: So you would be okay with the Supreme Court leaving 491 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 1: the question of interracial marriage to the States. Yes, I 492 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: think that that's something that if you're not wanting the 493 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: Supreme Court to weigh in on issues like that, you're 494 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: not going to be able to have your cake and 495 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: eat it too. I think it's okay, Yeah, wow, what 496 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: year are we in right now? You can't have your 497 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: cake and eat it too, especially if that cake is 498 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: a is a chocolate vanillas. We're all kind of right. 499 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,239 Speaker 1: I mean, he said it's hard to have it on 500 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: issues that you like, So he's talking generally right that 501 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: these there's these philosophical beliefs, whether it be abortion or 502 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 1: interracial marriage. It's hard to have it on issues that 503 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: you are interested in when you deny it to others 504 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: with a different point of view. So it's not like, 505 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: again I'm trying to put myself even in the position 506 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: of the aggrieved person who's against interracial marriage, is like, well, 507 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: they shouldn't let people. It's it's a odd like that's 508 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: such a bizarre philosophical point to sort of like underline 509 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: to say like, yeah, you know the time honored tradition 510 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: of racism, Like what is that from? Like where are 511 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: we coming from? Also, Clarence Thomas, Mitch McConnell, where are 512 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: y'all they're coming for you? I think it's so wild 513 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: because I I read about this moment, and my first 514 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: thought was he didn't understand the question, Like I really 515 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: wanted to be generous with this person, and he just 516 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: I saw like a little piece of the transcript where 517 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: the reporter asked about loving, and I thought he was 518 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: being discriminatory towards a group that he felt more comfortable with. 519 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: I thought he assumed it was like same sex marriage, 520 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: like anybody can love anybody and it's love matters and 521 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: love conquers all. And he's like, not in my state, 522 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: and that is still horrible. But I thought he was 523 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: comfortable with that horror. But then actually hearing the full clip, 524 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: he had clarified twice, you know, in the setup and 525 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: then in the follow up, and I think he thought 526 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: he was being really thoughtful, like just looking at his 527 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: body language on that and he's like, I'm just trying 528 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: to be consistent with my beliefs here. So yeah, we 529 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: just had we'd have to revisit basic human rights, you know, 530 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: across the country. And that is terrifying and also simple 531 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: minded and kind of dumb. And he's he's he's wearing glasses. Two, 532 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: he's got a suit. He's like in an official stature 533 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: of position. But it seems pretty idiotic to me, and 534 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: I just feel bad risk constituents. Yeah, and he you know, 535 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: I think the second he said that, I'm I mean, 536 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: if his staff's worth anything, they probably all simultaneously slapped 537 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: their foreheads and disbelief, and we're like, you're gonna have 538 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: to make a statement, like immediately. Because naturally, when that 539 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: clip came out, people were like, who is this man? 540 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: I think he's from that There must have been a 541 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: time machine from the antebell him South that got fired up. 542 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: And then this guy appeared as a senator today and 543 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: this was his defense. Okay, that was, you know, really 544 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: an interesting attempt at defending those words. Quote, I misunderstood 545 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: a line of questioning that ended up being about interracial marriage. 546 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: Let me be clear on that issue. There is no question. 547 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: He goes on to say racism is bad. It shouldn't 548 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: even be up for debate discrimination and quote I condemn 549 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: racism in any form, at all levels, and any and 550 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: by any states, entities, or individuals. It sounds like he's 551 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: not applying his deeply held beliefs in general. Then you know, 552 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: right right, if he's finding exceptions to the States, then 553 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: maybe there should be other ones. Do we think his 554 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: staff slap their forehead like that? That that was coming 555 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: from somewhere like I, I just I don't want to 556 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: be too easy on not just him, but like the 557 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: country to be like, look at this dip shit, like 558 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: what a what a baffling error like that? I don't 559 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: know this this is the sort of thing that people 560 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: are more willing and in about coming out and saying 561 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: they believe and like, I don't know, like they probably 562 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: saw some backlash before they put the statement out and 563 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: like it. He's very fucking clear about what he's saying 564 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: and that like there's there's no he didn't he didn't 565 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: trip into that like that. I think, well, this is 566 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,239 Speaker 1: where I kind of begin to see things, right, Like 567 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: Mike Brown isn't one of these like lawyers who becomes 568 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: a senator. He's like one of these business you know, 569 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: private sector to Senate guys. So he's not he hasn't, 570 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: so I'd imagine he probably got his like Federalist Society, 571 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, talking point email and was having to say 572 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: certain things and then like he's being asked stuff he 573 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: doesn't really know about, and then it's just like, yeah, man, 574 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: everything is basically on the table. I'm not to say 575 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: that his staff is like, we're all about inclusivity and 576 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: we you know, we stand interracial marriage. But I think 577 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: on some level, just knowing how the optics of Capitol 578 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: Hill politics worked, they're like, yeah, my god. But the 579 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: Federalist Society, which is a massively powerful and successful, like 580 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, has huge sway over the Supreme Court, Like 581 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: this is a you know, could be seen as a 582 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: like like what they essentially believe, like it they wouldn't 583 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: put that in their email. You're not supposed to say 584 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: it out loud. They're not exactly, but but that is 585 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: like kind of the logical conclusion of some of the 586 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: things they believe. That that part I think, you know, 587 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: he skipped ahead to the to the end where we're 588 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: not a nation anymore essentially, and we we were we 589 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: were we resort back to colonies and independent states and federations, 590 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, and confederationation, but differently held believes. Somewhere, you know, 591 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: you pay people for their labor, and somewhere you just 592 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: take it. Somewhere, you know, you respect land and and 593 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: somewhere you just take it. Some we respect people by 594 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: the autonomy, and somewhere you just take it. And I 595 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: think that's the world that they're they're going for, or 596 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: at least the world where like companies decide these things 597 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: more than than than we the people. I was watching 598 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: Sheldon white House during these confirmation hearing for Katangi Brown Jackson, 599 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: and I never really paid much attention. I never heard 600 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: him or rate before the senator, and he's he was 601 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: very clear about some of what's at stake. And you know, 602 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: the idea of a judicial philosophy as being like a 603 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: bullshit cover for just hooking up your people, you know, 604 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: just hooking up to your special interest. And I think 605 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: that's kind of where the federalist society is all about. There. 606 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: They want the state's rights thing for a handful of 607 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: issues that support wings of the Republican you know, constituency 608 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: and the corporate constituency. And then they're comfortable with the 609 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: collateral damage that were weak on the rest of us, 610 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: you know, in every other way, they just don't care. Yeah, 611 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: Sheldon white House when he like literally was pulling out 612 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: receipts and flash cars, but like, y'all want to talk 613 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: about dark money, right, that was what you said dark money? 614 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: So okay, Well, and he even said there's dark money 615 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: everywhere on both sides, and he's like, and we need 616 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: to get rid of it, trust me. But when he 617 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 1: was starting to be like, look at how much money 618 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: you've been spending on the last week confirmations, it was 619 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: pretty hard at that point for people to keep you know, 620 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: being like, yeah, the Judicial Crisis Network is also has 621 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: a huge hand in all this. But yeah, he's a 622 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: he was. He was very effective with those posters for 623 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: sure to watch that cr T moneo. Yeah, exactly. Do 624 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: we want to talk me Brooks real quick? This just things. 625 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: What did he do this time? It's just all falling 626 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: apart for for Amo, So you know, he goes hard 627 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: for Trump, like real hard, like in a way like 628 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 1: it's kind of desperate, like and you could tell even 629 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: Trump is like, dude in front of even don't actually 630 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: lick my boots man, right, whoa whoa easy easy. So 631 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: just to put remind people because apparently we did cover 632 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: the this his defense again. So he came out said like, 633 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: are you all ready to sacrifice or blood with six gathering? Yeah. 634 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: That led Eric Wallwell to take him to court and 635 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: that Jan six rally where he wore fucking body armor 636 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, yeah, I was wearing body 637 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: armor that day. You're like, oh, but you didn't know 638 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: where things are. Okay, no, go on anyway, So you 639 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: were in body armor. You said, you really spill your 640 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: blood in the streets, right. Eric Wallwell took him to court, 641 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: and his defense against any wrongdoing was I'm just gonna 642 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: read these bullet points. Let's hear this defense. Number one 643 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: Brooks is sixties seven years old. There's seven. We're gonna 644 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: read four of them. Number one mob Brooks is sixty 645 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: seven years old. Number two Brooks has never smoke tobacco. 646 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: Brooks does not consume alcohol. Brooks has never experimented with 647 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: or taken illegal drugs, so okay. Five. Brooks has never 648 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: had a d u Y, a reckless driving ticket, or 649 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: even a speeding ticket. Seven. Brooks has been married forty 650 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: five years. Brooks has always been faithful to his wife. Together, 651 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: they have raised four children, all of whom are married, 652 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: none of whom have been divorced, all of whom are 653 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: law abiding, none of whom have ever been arrested for anything, 654 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: all of whom have college degrees and jobs. Brooks's children 655 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: have blessed him with ten ten grandchildren, with two twins 656 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: and another granddaughter on the way. Yeah, good, that was 657 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: that was And why did why did he utter these statements? 658 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: Why did his team issue this because somebody was pointing 659 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: out that this is he's just saying that the the 660 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: d o J was sort of characterizing him in these 661 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: lawsuits were quote fictional, and that's why this was to 662 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: correct the record that he's some out of control insurrectionists. 663 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: He's sixty seven years old, has never smoked a cigarette. 664 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that definitely means he didn't say what 665 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: we all saw him say. No, no, no, That's why 666 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: it's like so sad. Right. He spent weeks ducking process 667 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: servers too, Like it was a long road to this 668 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: where they were trying to serve and was papers. He 669 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: was like ducking out of back rooms doing everything to 670 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: avoid getting served these papers. So that's just yeah, that's 671 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: right now then, so he you know, again he's a 672 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: sent for Trump, and Trump basically said, hey, you know what, 673 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: good job on the January six stuff being a total 674 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, seditionist. Thanks for having my back, willing to 675 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: spill blood for me. Also, shout out to you for 676 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 1: being one of the few people who voted against making 677 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: Juneteenth the national holiday. Yes, we see your see your 678 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: c V. And here is a here's a Senate endorsement 679 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: for you. Then once the poll number started rolling in, 680 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: he could tell that, like the polling shows that like 681 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,479 Speaker 1: a sentient like roll Tide Banner has a better shot 682 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: at office than this dude does right now. So Trump 683 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: has been like been like, oh no, Usually, like when 684 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: he endorses somebody, that's this whole thing, he's like, when 685 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: I endorsed him, they win. But he saw those polls 686 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: and he's like, yikes. So at first, you know, Brooks 687 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: made it easy to give Trump a reason because he 688 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: out loud was like, yeah, you know the thing about 689 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: the election is you know he may he may have 690 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: to move on from that, which you don't say if 691 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: you want that endorsement. And when he said that, Trump 692 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: was like it's really unfortunate that he went. He's becoming woke, 693 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: and now I have to think about it whether or 694 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: not I want to endorse him, which led Brooks in 695 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: a such a like scramble to try and like prove 696 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: his loyalty to Trump. He goes out man, he cuts 697 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 1: an ad to try and be like, I hate Mitch 698 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: McConnell while he's running for Senate in fucking Alabama. He's 699 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: spending millions to run the TV ad about how he 700 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: hates Mitch McConnell to get on Trump's good graces. And 701 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: I will play a bit of that so you can 702 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: just hear the the desperation or whatever in his voice 703 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: to show people that he is he's on the right side. 704 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 1: I unveil my pledge to America to fire miss McConnell. 705 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: If elected to the Senate, I will not vote for 706 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell for leader, and I will do everything in 707 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: my power to ensure that Republicans choose a conservative to 708 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: be leader. America can't afford a Senate leader who is 709 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: a wheak need debt junkie, open border Rhino Republican, and 710 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 1: who works yet sells out America for special interest group 711 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: cash today, Mitch's cash is coming at me again because 712 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm a principal conservative and have President Trump's endorsement. Not anymore, 713 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: not anymore. Turns out, turns out yeah, And you're like, 714 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: oh right, because the number one issue for your voters 715 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: is Mitch McConnell is a weak need, right, I mean, 716 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: like honestly, Ms McConnell. This this guy's like fucking like 717 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: nos Faratu, Like he cannot he cannot be defeated. It 718 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: only makes him stronger. We saw his body turn blue 719 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: and never can never die. He was net retizing before 720 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: our eyes, and he somehow pulled it together and it's 721 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 1: still running things in the Senate. And so despite all that, 722 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: Trump's he came out he said, quote Brooks made a 723 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: horrible mistake recently when he went woke and stated referring 724 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: to the presidential election scam. Put that behind you, Put 725 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 1: that behind you. So what what? Here's what. It's actually 726 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: kind of depressing. We have so much information, so much 727 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: record of who Trump is and how he treats people, 728 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: and how he's not loyal to anyone, everyone, anyone, everyone. 729 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: He will sacrifice everybody, and yet Moe Brooks thinks he's special, 730 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, and like all these people keep showing up 731 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: demonstrating fayalty knowing that it's going to fail, like you, 732 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: so that that's an to me. That's like, that's the 733 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: reason you don't vote for the guy, Like you have 734 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: terrible judgment. You can't stand up. You're willing to like 735 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: chuck and jive in this way and try to like 736 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: attach yourself. The guy is literally stabbing you in the face, 737 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: and you're just like I love face stabbing and that's 738 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: the best kind of stabbing because you can see it coming. 739 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: And then I can prepare myself for the for the brain, 740 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: you know, wounds that are going to come from it. 741 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: And I will do the same for you, the people 742 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: of Alabama, right, and the scars are a lifelong memory 743 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: that you will always keep with You will know that 744 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: I have no spine whatsoever. From get is that what 745 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: he always talks like is that I've never seen anyone 746 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: who the stupidity like comes more strongly off of their person. 747 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 1: Like that's like he may have never had a drink, 748 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: but like that ship is like whiskey on someone's breath. 749 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: Like the he's just that that is palpable. Yeah, I've 750 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: seen him like in in the January six, but I've 751 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: never seen him kind of relaxed and speaking just attempting 752 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: to act like he's speaking extemporaneously. And man, that is 753 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 1: that is rough going. And that was him with under 754 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: ideal circumstances. Yeah, the perfect pre recorded, well lit, well mike, 755 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: like they cut the bad parts. Take that again. I 756 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 1: mean you could have done multiple versions of that, but 757 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: that is a you know, it's a bit of a 758 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: stretch to called Mitch McConnell and open borders rhino like sir. 759 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: That's the other part too, him, Like you really, there's 760 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: so many other things if you're going to be like 761 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: a nativist or some some weird version of a maga, 762 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, deplorable to go after miss McConnell. But just 763 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,919 Speaker 1: like mischaracterizing him completely. It's like, okay, so you don't 764 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: even know miss McConnell is, but okay, you read a 765 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: quick spreadsheet and you're like, okay, here's some buzzwords to 766 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 1: attach to Mitch McConnell to get Trump's attention. And it failed. 767 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: It failed. He he dropped that one, he dropped that mixtape, 768 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: and then Trump was like, huh, I bet I bet 769 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: I bet Mo Brooks's truth social account hasn't even been 770 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: activated yet, Like he's still on the wait Ye, I'm 771 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: still on the Waitlist's right? I mean yeah, he's like, yeah, 772 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: he's number. It's like even like at the very last one, 773 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: it's like it even says, just don't bother come back. 774 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: Never what number am? I just don't forget about it. 775 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: I'll forget about it all right, Let's take another quick 776 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: break and then we'll come back and talk about the 777 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: TikTok to Hollywood Pipeline and my favorite Dida and we're back. 778 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 1: And so, Miles, you put this kind of summary together 779 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: of like where the entertainment industries at between the days 780 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: when the way you got established was you know, your 781 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,280 Speaker 1: parents drove you out and you tried to get booked 782 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: for pilot season or you drove out and tried to 783 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: get booked for pilot season. And now we've got like 784 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: micro celebrities and influencers, and now they're like agencies that 785 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: scoop those micro celebrities and influencers up and like give them, 786 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 1: you know, manage their careers a little bit. And yeah, 787 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: it's a it's an industry and transition. Yeah, like the 788 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 1: whole thing. I feel like, just the whole Internet celebrity 789 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: to main or you know, traditional media celebrity is like 790 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: it's always sort of there's always been this tension between 791 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: like how people move between the spaces, and you know, 792 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: early on, we kind of saw the difficulty a lot 793 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,760 Speaker 1: of YouTubers had when they made the switch to TV, 794 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 1: like our Grace hell Big as someone who stands out 795 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: who like got a show on v H one, and 796 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, oh, this is one 797 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: of the biggest sketch comedians on YouTube or comedians on 798 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: YouTube now going to be on v H one, And 799 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 1: the audiences just didn't migrate. So you know, I think 800 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: most people would look at that and wonder, well, they 801 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: have millions of subscribers and views on YouTube, how come 802 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: that didn't translate to TV? And people begin to realize, Okay, 803 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: platforms are different, the way people migrate between the two 804 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: aren't the same. And then we begin to see this 805 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: like wave of places like Maker Studios or full Screen 806 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: or Awesomeness TV, where these companies were trying to really 807 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 1: level up YouTube content creators and it kind of worked. 808 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: You know, like these were massive operations that were just 809 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 1: trawling for views and generating a lot of revenue, but 810 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: then that died out too, and now that TikTok has 811 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: sort of like become this new breeding ground for young talent. 812 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: We're seeing companies now who are trying to get in 813 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: sort of that be that conduit between bigger deals and 814 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: just these younger celebrities. So they're kind of like hype 815 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: houses that we see and here about now with TikTok. 816 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: They're these networks that are dedicated to putting influencers in 817 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: like more elevated productions. You know, it's something with a 818 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: little bit of lighting, a little bit of you know, 819 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: using an Alexa to shoot it rather than an iPhone, 820 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: and just liking to just say, you know, getting audiences 821 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 1: used to seeing them a certain way. And there's this 822 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: company called Bratt TV that there was this box article about. 823 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 1: They were just sort of speaking with this the people 824 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: that are running it, and this is just an interesting 825 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: way of how they sort of look at what how 826 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: this sort of a company like this works. They say Fishman, 827 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: who is one of the founders of the company. He 828 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: says sees influencers working with Brad is something like a 829 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: first stop in the industry. It brings them to a 830 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: place where they can start having conversations with the platforms 831 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: or the advertisers, advertisers and industry folks that lets them 832 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: build businesses beyond posting short for form content, which is great, 833 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: it's an incredible amount of work. And then he's talking 834 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: about how user generated content is cheap, but there's something 835 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: missing from the media ecosystem, which is digestible entertainment that's 836 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: professionally produced, and just sort of an emphasis on that, 837 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: like we're getting them used to this more professional style 838 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: of production and maybe that transitions them there. But it's 839 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: when you when you look at a lot of how 840 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 1: these micro influencers are these days, it's almost like they're 841 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: kind of in this lane of trying to do as 842 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: much as possible. It's not just that they're on TikTok. 843 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: It's like they're on TikTok, they have a podcast, they 844 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: have a merged store, they do these other things, and 845 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: it's never just sort of like one thing, where previously 846 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: it almost felt like you're a YouTuber who does this thing, 847 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: let's try and like move you into this way. But 848 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: I think now we're seeing at least companies and agencies 849 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: they see the potential for like multiple revenue streams with 850 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: these types of talent, and I don't know, it's just 851 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: it's it's, uh, it's an interesting evolution to watch and like, 852 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: what does it even mean? How are they even defining 853 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: success now? Is what I'm curious about, because is it 854 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: like a million subscribers? Is it the most branded deals? 855 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 1: Is it how many downloads you get on a podcast? 856 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: And you know, YouTube and Funny or Die I think 857 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: gave people away to showcase their talents without sort of 858 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: these obstacles of the formal entertainment industry. But we're just 859 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 1: seeing this continuation of this trend where there's barriers to entry, 860 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: people figure out how to you know, strike it, you 861 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: know rich on their own, and then trying to see 862 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: how companies can then be like, okay, how do I 863 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: monetize this person now and bring them into this more 864 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: traditional industry. And it's I'm you know, I think that's 865 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: why as I wrote this, you know, Jackie had a 866 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: lot of it, got your got your brain going as 867 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: to sort of what's you know what what's actually happening here? 868 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 1: And got my old asked brain going because my old 869 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 1: head thought first thought is like why are there not 870 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: more like young people who start as like, okay, this 871 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: is this person had millions and millions of follows on 872 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 1: YouTube and then like now they are like a certified 873 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: movie star, Like but it feels like that should be 874 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,359 Speaker 1: happening more just based on you know, how much young 875 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: talent is coming up and like where the young talent, 876 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 1: like the young talent I hear about there, there does 877 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: seem to be sort of a line between the influencer 878 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: and then like the more established celebrity people who appear 879 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: in movies, TV TV shows there they're obviously exceptions, like 880 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 1: Donald Glover, Like I first I knew about him from 881 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: his ny U sketch group, and then it does seem 882 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 1: like it's people who also like immediately get the attention 883 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: of the main stream, like Donald Glover was in the 884 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 1: sketch troop and then he was like the next thing 885 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: you hear about him, he's writing for thirty Rock and 886 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: then he's like in community and he's like immediately like 887 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: scooped up by the major like agencies. Right, so well, 888 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 1: I think, but even then, right, people like as someone 889 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: who was also trying to do sketch comedy on the Internet. 890 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: That was the way to be like, well this is 891 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: how we were still had our eyes on the formal 892 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: entertainment industry. It just felt like, well, here's the way 893 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 1: to get attention to enter that. Whereas maybe now it 894 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: seems like even now the end game is slightly different 895 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. Its younger talent or like 896 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily need to be on TV because like 897 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 1: I can be an influencer to a podcast, make my 898 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: money and just live how I want to. So I 899 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,720 Speaker 1: think there there's probably philosophically some differences on how people 900 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: move because we're still seeing like young people come up 901 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 1: and be actors and things. But yeah, I'm curious to see, 902 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: like if it's splitting a lot of the attention to 903 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: say like, oh this is this is the sort of 904 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 1: end point that you want to arrive at. Is this 905 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 1: micro celebrity and even independently of like you know, normative 906 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: judgments on like which is better TikTok YouTube or like 907 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: being in an Oscar nominated film or whatever, is is 908 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 1: the fact that there aren't more influencers who are crossing 909 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: over into that just because they're too like that's a 910 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: full time career, that's an even more of more of 911 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: a full time career than being like a movie star, 912 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,759 Speaker 1: like you know, making when you have to make like 913 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 1: create a relationship with old Spice and like tends to 914 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: that relationship and create a bunch of content for Old Spice, Like, 915 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: is that draining the talent pool that like traditional media 916 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: gets to work with. This is a question that I have. 917 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I aline with this 918 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: idea that a lot of these people don't necessarily want 919 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,399 Speaker 1: to cross over anymore. The place that they're crossing too, 920 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: is getting weaker and weaker with all the debt that 921 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,919 Speaker 1: these entertainment companies have taken on scandals that they have, 922 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 1: And you see how narrow that funnel is. There's like 923 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,760 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of professional actors and only a handful 924 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: that everybody knows. Like being in an Oscar nominated film 925 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 1: is still pretty random, but you have to be in 926 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: a certain set, So so there is something more desirable 927 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: about that. Maybe controlling your your fate and your destiny 928 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 1: and coming up with like different revenue streams and owning 929 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: the audience. You know yourself too. I mean a lot 930 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: of what happens as you elevate in the traditional model. 931 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 1: As you give up the list, you give up like 932 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: they're not the viewers, are not your viewers anymore. They're 933 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,840 Speaker 1: like the viewers of a network, and you have like 934 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: many layers of lawyers and business people between you and them, 935 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of them they're really good at that, 936 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,400 Speaker 1: and that's not television and that is a whole another medium. 937 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: And maybe they can make more money on games and 938 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: like launching their own crypto coin and doing an online 939 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 1: course and having subscriptions, and like none of most of 940 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,439 Speaker 1: the traditional people, I don't know how to do any 941 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: of those things right. So there's you know, there's probably 942 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: still some draw to like be a movie star because 943 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: people like bigger cameras, but I think there's more opportunity 944 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 1: to not do that and still try to make some 945 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: kind of money without totally. But if that's you, if 946 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: that's the case, that's making our movies and TV shows 947 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 1: worse because we're not getting extremely talented people because there's 948 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 1: all those gate keeping and you know, all all those 949 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 1: lawyers and agents managers that stand in the way that 950 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: make it less attractive than the short form content. And 951 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: that's just not a thing you hear. You don't hear like, well, 952 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: movies are getting worse because of the talent drain of 953 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: all these young I think you just connected something for me. 954 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 1: So movies kind of have been getting worse in the 955 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: sense that they've been getting more stale, where it's all 956 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: built on legacy. I p. It's like massive superhero stuff, 957 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: and people don't go to the theater because just the 958 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 1: attention economy, we have so many more choices. So every 959 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 1: moment I'm scrolling on my phone through a TikTok, I'm 960 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 1: not watching some highly produced content out of one of 961 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 1: twenty different streaming services. And that that competition. I think 962 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: that shift in demand shift and viewership, it becomes to 963 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 1: a shift in investment, and it comes to a shift 964 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 1: and attracting talent. And people are like, oh, but I'm 965 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 1: spending ten hours a week in this video game world. 966 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: Maybe that's where I invest And so you know, it 967 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,399 Speaker 1: might not just be the talent. The producers, the executives, 968 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: the investors, they're all like, oh, not everybody wants to 969 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: spend two and a half hours in a theater away 970 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: from their home watching just one story. We should we 971 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,320 Speaker 1: should shift that around. Okay, So the whole world's collapsing. 972 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,879 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, But I'm even sure. I'm sure 973 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 1: to a certain point too, right, It like just out 974 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 1: of survival that it's probably easy to on your phone, 975 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: find a way to enter the middle class, upper middle 976 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: class with justice with a cell phone and you can 977 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: just be you, and on some level, I'm sure that 978 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 1: is attractive versus like, I'm not trying to be I'm 979 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 1: not really into acting. I would love to be in 980 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 1: a world where I have a few talents. If I 981 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,399 Speaker 1: can share them and that helps support me, then that's 982 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 1: a Then that's a good like to you know what 983 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean. And I think because you look at if 984 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 1: you just look at the numbers, you'd be like, well, statistically, 985 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 1: you're you're more likely to blow up on TikTok than 986 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 1: you are to be on a on a Disney Plus 987 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: streaming show or Prestige drama or something like that. So 988 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: in a way, it's like, well, that's a like. I'm 989 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 1: sure for younger people it's like, well, that's a that's 990 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,360 Speaker 1: a pretty simple way to have some kind of financial stability. 991 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: And it might not be so much about like I 992 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,280 Speaker 1: want a million views or whatever, but I can support 993 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 1: myself doing something like this, and I don't necessarily have 994 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,479 Speaker 1: to compromise who I am to do it, Like being 995 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: myself can be enough in certain aspects. Not many people 996 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,799 Speaker 1: will change their outward persona or whatever for clicks, But 997 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 1: I think there is an appeal to for some people 998 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: to just say, I just me doing this one thing 999 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 1: I really like to do is potentially a way for 1000 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: me to just have a stable income. And that's that's 1001 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: fine enough too. Like we have a list of people 1002 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,799 Speaker 1: who succeeded it, like started on online and then succeeded 1003 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 1: at some level and movies and you know, Lily saying, 1004 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 1: Donald Glover, Grace, Helbig King Batch, Bo Burnham. But I 1005 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: do feel like they once they made the decision to like, 1006 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,760 Speaker 1: you know what now that Bo Burnham is releasing Netflix 1007 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: specials once a year, like that seems to be and 1008 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,280 Speaker 1: like his movie career like seemed to be his focus 1009 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: because that's, you know, takes a a lot of work. 1010 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: That super producer back is pointing out Quinta Brunson also 1011 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: you know yeah, but yeah, I guess I'm wondering, is 1012 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: there the only example I could think of of somebody 1013 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 1: who like continues to do it both places and just 1014 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 1: like the they feed off each other is little nas 1015 00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,720 Speaker 1: X like just continues to just dominate both traditional music 1016 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 1: and like just be meme. Lord, I feel like other 1017 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: other than that, I'd just be interested if we're going 1018 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 1: to see more people who who are that way. I 1019 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 1: think you see some some traditional people they're drawn to 1020 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 1: some of what they can't do, and they try to 1021 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: like make it on on a digital platform, like the 1022 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: way Will Smith is leaned so hard into YouTube is 1023 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 1: I fin I'm fascinating, And I've see a lot of 1024 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: celebrities trying to jump on TikTok, at least from a 1025 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 1: trends perspective, to just maintain their attention. You know, there's 1026 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: something that they can get from that that they can't 1027 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: get from waiting for the movie they shot last year 1028 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 1: to come out three years from now, and so they 1029 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: can they can have a more consistent presence. So this 1030 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: is all probably collapsing into a world where everybody who 1031 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: does anything performs it and then tries to monetize it, 1032 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 1: which is terrible but also really liberating. Yeah, everything everywhere 1033 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 1: all at once. Yeah, so movie that comes up tomorrow, Well, 1034 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 1: I guess we're not gonna have a chance to talk 1035 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: about my favorite dj U, but maybe we'll talk about 1036 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: him on yesterday's trending episode. For those of you, that's 1037 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: the weird, the weird time warp of listening to the dailies. 1038 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: I guys, but it's been such a pleasure having you. 1039 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 1: I can't believe you do the show daily. Um and 1040 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm in awe and thank you so much for having me. 1041 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you, listen to you 1042 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 1: all that good stuff? Yes? Yes, so how does citizen 1043 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 1: dot com as the home of the podcast that we 1044 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 1: all launched together and it still continues. Please check that 1045 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 1: show out. We're three seasons in and gearing up for 1046 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 1: the fourth, and uh it gives us some light and 1047 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 1: occasionally dark moments in our lives. I am at Bariton 1048 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: date on all the social platforms, So find me where 1049 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 1: you're comfortable, and I'll even leave folks with a phone 1050 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: number two to eight nine four eight eight four four, 1051 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: text me too, ot to eight nine four eight eight 1052 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: four four. Throw t d Z in there so I 1053 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 1: know how you found me. And that is kind of 1054 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: like a text mailing list subscription number. It's not my 1055 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 1: literal iPhone, but it is a service number. I'm like wow. 1056 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 1: But that way I can point point folks to all 1057 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 1: kinds of things, and when I'm doing interactive stuff, I 1058 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: let folks know. Yeah, so get at me on all 1059 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 1: those places. Puck media if you like long form, dope, 1060 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: insightful writing. I'm a partner in that. And we didn't 1061 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 1: talk much about it. But google things or or duck 1062 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 1: duck go them or being them or neither of them. Yeah, 1063 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: do it all and pop that acid off, yae. Is 1064 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 1: there a tweeter or any work of social media you've 1065 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 1: been enjoying? Oh um? Yeah. So a friend on Instagram 1066 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 1: shared a video of a four year old who was 1067 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 1: about to have a tantrum and his six year old 1068 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 1: brother helped him manage his breathing and like helped calm 1069 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: him down. There's two little black boys like interacting with 1070 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 1: each other when this holistic, healthy calming way. And it 1071 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 1: wasn't a part of like goop, you know what. It 1072 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 1: wasn't like some high end monetized platform. It was just 1073 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: like a kid being in touch with his body and 1074 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 1: helping his little brother, you know, reconnect with that breath 1075 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 1: and chill out. And I'm sure the parents were very 1076 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 1: grateful for it. It's really, really, really I've watched it 1077 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 1: multiple times. I love it. I tell you it's not 1078 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 1: grateful as my kids because they never do that. Ship. 1079 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,959 Speaker 1: Now there's the bar has been raised. You gotta show 1080 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 1: show him the video right, see how this works? You 1081 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 1: can you can go viral Miles. Where can people find you? Uh? 1082 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,160 Speaker 1: What is the tweet you've been enjoying? You can find 1083 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 1: me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray the 1084 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 1: other parts the new podcast. Also, you can find Jack 1085 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 1: and I on Mad Boosts. Miles and Jack got Mad Boosts, 1086 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 1: an NBA podcast where you know, it's just a celebration 1087 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 1: of the NBA because we love the NBA and they 1088 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 1: decided that they were willing to take a big risk 1089 01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: working with us. So shout out to that thank you 1090 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 1: so dumb baby, but shout out to the NBA for 1091 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 1: approving it. Um. But yeah, you'll see that coming up. 1092 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 1: Well obviously you'll hear a trailer coming up soon, so 1093 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 1: stick around for that in the coming days. Some tweets 1094 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 1: that are like first one is from k at k 1095 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: LR Will k y l A r w I l 1096 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: L tweeted, I love how when people are mad they 1097 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 1: inconvenience to themselves. They'll be like I'll walk l M 1098 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 1: F A O or I'm not hungry, Like it's not 1099 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: self torture. It's so true. It's always my favorite one. 1100 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 1: I remember my mom would always call me on that. 1101 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 1: Why don't I'll walk? It's like, all right, get out 1102 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 1: right here, and I was like, I don't want to. 1103 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 1: You're right, you win, you win. And then this one 1104 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 1: is so love, followed like two seconds later by you 1105 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 1: win all right, right, and then this one from Matt 1106 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,920 Speaker 1: at Matt x I V. He said, new favorite tweet 1107 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 1: from a man he's quote tweeting this picture of the 1108 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 1: guy who's showing a picture of Jamie Lynn Spears when 1109 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 1: she was like maybe fifteen to her now and the 1110 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 1: when when she's younger she has a side part, and 1111 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 1: then in this early in this like current picture, she 1112 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 1: has a part in the middle. And he says, how 1113 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 1: did she move where her hair was going growing from? Oh? Oh, 1114 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 1: that's that's that qualifies you to be a representative a 1115 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 1: senator from like, I mean, how did she move where 1116 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 1: her hair was growing from? This is a Hall of 1117 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: Fame of stupidity episode? Like a people human, she's a 1118 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:43,680 Speaker 1: lizard human, but I see what's going on. That is, 1119 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 1: by the way, underrated thing that Superman can do is 1120 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 1: that Clark Kent goes into you know, the revolving doors 1121 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 1: with his part his hair party to the Left, comes 1122 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 1: out has Superman hair party to the right, because only 1123 01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 1: Chad's part their hair to the right and only Losers 1124 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 1: part of to the beta SI. Apparently, Yeah, that almost 1125 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 1: never fails if you look at it, if you look 1126 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 1: at depictions of Claire Kenton Superman. Anyways, let's see tweet 1127 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 1: I've been enjoying. Amy Solomon tweeted, almost every movie is 1128 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 1: called deep water kind of kind of feels that way. 1129 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 1: So I was confused when people started talking about deep water. 1130 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 1: I was like, didn't that come out? But I think 1131 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 1: I was seeing a deep water horizon. Yeah. Yeah, it 1132 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 1: feels like it feels like too many movies of the 1133 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 1: deep deep water. So many movies reference deep water the 1134 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 1: abyss uh, come on, let's find a new concept, assholes. 1135 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 1: That's statement, right, Amy Solomon shout Gotta find her. You 1136 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You 1137 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. We're at 1138 01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 1: deep Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan 1139 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,919 Speaker 1: age on a website Daily dot Com where we post 1140 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 1: our episodes on our footnotes when we link off to 1141 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,240 Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, because well, 1142 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 1: it was a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, 1143 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,439 Speaker 1: what song do we think people might enjoy? This is 1144 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,560 Speaker 1: a track called wood Trees from a root called Begin. 1145 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 1: I had never heard of them until I started playing 1146 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 1: Grand Tourismo seven and this was in a loading screen. 1147 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 1: But this track, this is again I know, yesterday we 1148 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 1: did some Donny Binet, which is sort of like some 1149 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 1: current music that sounds like the eighties. Begin is also 1150 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 1: doing something like that too. This also has very like 1151 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,440 Speaker 1: deep Miami vice vibes. It's just a great relaxing instrumental 1152 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 1: for anybody who you know has a sonic memory of 1153 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 1: the eighties. It's atmospheric, it's kind of funky, and I 1154 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,439 Speaker 1: just like this kind of music a lot, especially when 1155 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 1: people you know, in the in our current times look 1156 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 1: to the past and say, I want to honor this 1157 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 1: music into an authentic point. So this this track is 1158 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 1: called wood Trees by Begin. To check it out right, well, 1159 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: go listen to that. The Daily Zai Cais is a 1160 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 1: production of I Hear Radio from More podcast. For my 1161 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 1: heart radio, visit the heart radio app Apple Podcaster, where 1162 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to 1163 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 1: do it for us this morning, but we are back 1164 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 1: this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we will 1165 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,320 Speaker 1: talk to y'all then Bye bye bye