1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Buck Sexton and you're listening to the 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Travers and Buck 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Sexton podcast Network. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm Tutor Dixon and 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: I'm glad you're joining me today. Joe Biden recently announced 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: his bid for reelection and in this commercial, because of 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: course it's pre taped, he didn't do it live. But 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: in this commercial he accuses conservatives of banning books. Now, 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: we've all seen these parents who are fighting against pornographic 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: materials in their school. But my guest today has decided 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: to take a different route and publish good books. Just 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: publish good books with good people, so that families can 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: read to their children and feel safe doing it. Trent Talbot, 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: CEO of Brave Books, a new conservative publishing house. They 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: want to get the wokeness out of bedtime. Trent, tell 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: me all about it. 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: Hey, Tutor, thanks for having me. You said it. 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: We're a Christian conservative children's book publishing company and our 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: mission is to create a brand that parents can trust 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 3: with their children's imagination. That's an issue out there right now. 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 3: You know, parents really don't know where to turn. A 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: lot of parents have to read all the books beforehand. 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: They feel like they have to watch all the TV shows, 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: and our children's imagination is a precious thing. I just 25 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: felt that there needed to be a brand out there 26 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: that parents can trust that made just really really good books. 27 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: But we sort of took it a step further. 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: I don't know how much you know about us, but 29 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: we have a Book of the Month club in which 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: we come up with a new book every single month, 31 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: and they're all in this universe that we built called 32 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: Freedom Island, and our characters are animals and we've got 33 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: the good guys, and then we've got the villains like 34 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 3: Black Heart and Culture of the Vulture and all these 35 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: really fun characters. 36 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: That kids just they just get sort of lost in 37 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: this world. 38 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: So like their best day of the month is whenever 39 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: their Brave book comes in and it's been great. You 40 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: know what we hear from our subscribers is that is 41 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: that the kids just eat this content up and it's 42 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: made them like passionate about learning, passion about reading. And 43 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: then you know, each book teaches a different lesson or 44 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: value that is you know, traditional, pro god, pro American, 45 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: and it's created a lot of really good conversations between 46 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: parents and kids. 47 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: It sort of reminds me of when we were kids 48 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: and there were highlights magazines that you got, and you 49 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: got one every month, and you got to go through 50 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: it with your parents who were at the dentist's office 51 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: and learn some stuff along the way. So what are 52 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: the ages for these books? 53 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: Four to ten? 54 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: We started with picture books. Our vision is from the 55 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: next fifty to one hundred years when Christian conservative parents 56 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: are when their kids hit three to four years old, 57 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: they start their subscription and they get a book, new 58 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: picture book every month for about five years, and then 59 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: switches to chapter books and then middle grade novels, and 60 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: all the while you were providing live action TV shows, 61 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: animated television shows, potentially animated movies, and just to create 62 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: this world and characters that children are growing up in 63 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 3: and growing up with. The topics sort of mature as 64 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: the kids mature, and so that their morality and character 65 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: is aped in a positive way as opposed to you 66 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: know what's currently happening, which is this they're being confused. 67 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, as a mom, of course, I love this, 68 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: but you sort of this, I mean, this kind of 69 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: jumped to fame when you were out there saying, you 70 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: know what, we're going to have story time at libraries, 71 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 2: and you teamed up with Kirk Cameron. Now you have folks, celebrities. 72 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: I guess I would say writing all of these books 73 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: that are involved in all of this. But you kind 74 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: of started this story time with Kirk Cameron and libraries 75 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: just didn't respond. And you were responding to this drag 76 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: queen story time and said, you know what, we want 77 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: to go in from a Christian perspective, have books that 78 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: are building kids up, and we want to have somebody 79 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: that is well known. I mean, I grew up with 80 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: Growing Pains, you know. For me, I'm like, this is 81 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: the all American guy, Kirk Cameron coming in. And you 82 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: got no response? 83 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: Did you well want to speak on Kirk? He's the 84 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: real deal, you know. 85 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: I've got to know him very well as we've sort 86 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: of been turning the country together. He's legit and I 87 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: just think the world of him. And it's been an 88 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: absolute pleasure to to be able to work with him, 89 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: you know, and such we've we've done so much more 90 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: than we originally thought. 91 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: We thought we're just going to launch a little book. 92 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, the story is is that he wanted to 93 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: do some book readings, and so we were like, well, 94 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 3: you know, instead of going you know, the places like Houston, 95 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 3: you know, where we know we'd get a huge crowd, 96 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 3: we wanted to go into communities that may. 97 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: Not be hearing a lot of these topics. 98 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 3: And his book is on the bruge of the Spirit 99 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: and biblical wisdom, and so we wanted to go in 100 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: some of those those communities. And we thought, well, let's 101 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: just go. Let's reach out to all the libraries that 102 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: had hosted Drag Queen Story hours, and we thought we 103 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: were going to get some to say yeah, well, we 104 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 3: didn't really think that they could say. 105 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: No, you know, we thought, yeah, you didn't know that 106 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: they can choose. I mean, it's a public library, right right. 107 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: That was our thought. 108 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: And but they either ignored us or they outright said no, 109 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: you're not welcome. 110 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: This book goes against our values here at the library. 111 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: And then and then yeah, they actually come out and 112 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: say it went against their value. Oh yeah, what did 113 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 2: you ever ask what are those values? Because how can 114 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: you have men dressed in lingerie reading to children, but 115 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: you can't have something about the fruits of the spirit. 116 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 3: But it was something along the lines of, like, we 117 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 3: believe in diversity, and this goes against our core belief 118 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: of diversity. So we had a field day with that, obviously, 119 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 3: because it just makes absolutely no sense, and that basically 120 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 3: you're saying that you're only going to have people of 121 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: one you know, that believe one. 122 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: Side of the of the aisle, if you will. 123 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: He ended up threatening to sue more or less for 124 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 3: a violation of his First Amendment to a couple libraries 125 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: Indianapolis Public Library and Scars Still in New York. They 126 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: backed down after that threat. We hosted a story hour. 127 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 3: They were huge in Indianapolis. We had like twenty five 128 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: people show up. There's a six floor, six floor library. 129 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: Each one was a capacity. So he was he was 130 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: going down from Florida floor stopping by saying Hi. 131 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: It was like, it was. 132 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: Nuts, She's in Indianapolis. 133 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Indianapolis. 134 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is so awesome. Just goes to show that 135 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: the values of the community are a little different than 136 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: whoever wrote that letter. 137 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's what happens. 138 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: It's it's the loudest people end up grabbing a hold 139 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: of power in these institutions, and they definitely don't speak 140 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: for the people, and yeah, it was it was an 141 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: incredible time. There was like God, bless America songs just 142 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: breaking out naturally we weren't leaving them or anything. Is 143 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: really sweet. So anyway, after that, we were like, well, hey, 144 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: let's keep this going. Let's let's do more libraries. And 145 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: it's been fun. We've done them all over and a 146 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 3: lot of times crazy stuff happens, like in Hendersonville, Tennessee, 147 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: the library director was like bang books while we were 148 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 3: trying to read and ended up getting fired, and so 149 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: there's just been all this wow. 150 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, I mean, I have to say that 151 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: that is an interesting situation because we rarely hear that 152 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: the person who is attacking the conservative or who they 153 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: believe to be conservative, actually has any repercussions from that. 154 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: So I'm impressed to hear that the librarian who was 155 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: doing that was let go. And I'm not saying that 156 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm rejoicing in that. I'm saying that the behavior should 157 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: have consequences, and it seems like there's only consequences on 158 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: one side, and oftentimes those are unfair. 159 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were definitely surprised, but Hendersonville is a very 160 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: conservative area. 161 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: But again, it's those. 162 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: It's for whatever reason, the Left is just good at 163 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: seizing power of our public spaces and our public institutions. 164 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I love what you're doing because you're getting 165 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: right to the kids, and you're starting this early. But 166 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: it really seems like our students are going to college 167 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: and they're getting this indoctrination in our universities and you see, 168 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: I mean even just taking this latest example of bud 169 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: Light and you either, you know, everybody's questioning what did 170 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: the leadership at bud Light think when this came out, 171 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: because it seems like there was a bit of a 172 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: disconnect there. But why is it that these people who 173 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: really don't understand what the majority of the country wants, 174 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: because truly, I mean, over eighty percent of the country 175 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: really believes in strong American values. So why is it 176 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: that these very few people are getting into positions of 177 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: power and causing this division. 178 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: I think it's a multi There's a few factors. 179 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: One is the left has taken control of institutions, all 180 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 3: of them, you know, so a lot of these big 181 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: corporations they're obviously woke, you know, we see with bud 182 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: Light and everywhere. And if you're if you're left leaning, 183 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: you have a better chance of advancing because typically the 184 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: boards are run by the left. And then secondly, we 185 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: all live in our bubbles, you know, the left and 186 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: the right. They're what's normal to them is not normal 187 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: to us, you know. And so so then you have 188 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: people that are in their bubble who are running organizations 189 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: or institutions that affect people that are in a completely 190 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: different bubble. And it's just like sometimes like moments like 191 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: the bud Light deal, where it's like whoa, oh, that 192 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense. 193 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 2: From what I understand. You had Riley Gaines at one 194 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: of these library book readings and there was pretty you 195 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: talked about the librarian that was banging books. I mean 196 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: they were playing music. This is becoming a thing. When 197 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: you do these book readings the people you have a 198 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: huge outpouring of love from the community, but the people 199 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: within the library in some cases are actually attacking the 200 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: moment in whatever way they can banging books, playing music. 201 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: How can that possibly be when you have someone like 202 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: Riley Gaines, who is should should historically have been looked 203 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: at as wow, this is really a champion for girls. 204 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: Whether even if you take away all of the social 205 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: or cultural issues are surrounding her. She's a champion. Shouldn't 206 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: we be excited about a champions when we're talking to kids? 207 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you would think so. She hasn't done a book 208 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: with us, but she is. She's amazing. She came out 209 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: there on our own volition just to talk to kids 210 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: and read the kids. And then yeah, for her to 211 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: be treated like that was really disappointing. She was treated 212 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: like some villain, you know, like some terrible villain that 213 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: needed to be shunned away from kids, when it's the 214 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: exact opposite. She's exactly the type of person that I 215 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: think our young ladies should look up to. 216 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 217 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon podcast. You have these books that are 218 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: for young kids. I think that this is where conservatives 219 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: or really people who want to get the message out 220 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: of having strong American values, they need to start with 221 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: our kids and in ways that you can entertain and 222 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: talk to kids. I mean, really, if you're looking at 223 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: what the left has done, what these progressives have done, 224 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: They're going into our kids worlds. They're meeting them at TikTok, 225 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: they are influencing them with commercials on TV through programs 226 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: on TV. I mean even some of these shows that 227 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: I've watched with my own children. It's this culture of 228 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: dismissing adults, making adults seem like idiots, having children take 229 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: total control. There is there is a strange infiltration of 230 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: our children's worlds that is kind of flipping the world 231 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: upside down on how to how to parent, how to 232 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: respect adults, all of this. I love the fact that 233 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: you're doing this to get involved in kids' lives young. 234 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: Is there an expansion on this to continue to impact 235 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: culture because we have been remiss on our side of 236 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: the aisle getting into those spaces. I mean, Kirk Cameron, 237 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: He's a guy who had a really wholesome show when 238 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: I was a kid, and I don't see a lot 239 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: of those anymore. 240 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: There's there's definitely very few of them. 241 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: And and and that's that's really the reason why we exist, 242 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 3: is because there is a big need. And you know, 243 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: we as as parents, as conservative Christian parents, we feel that, 244 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: you know, we've got big plans. We think that we've 245 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: tapped into a big need and then we've got the 246 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 3: right team and the right product to really be something 247 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: very special. 248 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen our books. 249 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: But our books are just world class and we've got 250 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: this creative team that's just like it's as good as 251 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: it gets. I think our books stand up to anything 252 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 3: any children's books out there. But you sort of have 253 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: the benefit of not only are there great stories that 254 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: are really entertaining, but they teach good values that reinforce 255 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: the values that we as Christian conservative parents hold dear 256 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: and to me as a parent, that's what I'm looking for. 257 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: That's what I feel the need for, you know, is 258 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: like you mentioned earlier, like our kids are being indoctrinated everywhere. 259 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 3: That's just the reality that we live in is that 260 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: our kids are going to be indoctrinated. We need to 261 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: be talking to our kids. We can't just let other 262 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: people raise our kids and teach them, you know, the 263 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 3: values that they that they need to have. 264 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: We need to be having those conversations. 265 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: And what I like about this is that I think 266 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: in today's today is different than when I was a kid, 267 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: and certainly then when my mother was a child, where 268 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: I think that parents are so busy today, work never ends, 269 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 2: the cell phone is always there. You really have to 270 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: take time to step away, and this provides that space 271 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: where it's like, Okay, the book has come, we have 272 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: to sit down. This is a monthly reminder. How many 273 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: books come out every month? Are they different age groups 274 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: or is it just one one that is spanning whether 275 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: it's a chapter book or one for the younger kids 276 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: or one for each. 277 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: Right now, it's a picture book and so so like 278 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: if you go to our website redbooks dot com and 279 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: you subscribe, you'll get our very first book and it's 280 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: it's tailored for like a four year old, and then 281 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: it's going to be a picture book every single month 282 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: for about five years, and they'll get a little bit 283 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: more mature, hit a little bit more mature topics until hey, 284 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: it's about they're about that age where it's time to 285 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 3: switch over to chapter books. We'll we'll have some images 286 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: in there, but that's what they start start wanting, you know, 287 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 3: is more text. 288 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: They want to sort of read by themselves. 289 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: And we'll probably send two books every month whenever that happens, 290 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: but right now it's just strictly picture books. 291 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: How many writers do you have. 292 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: We've got a team of four that now they're writers editors. 293 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: Our core creative team is four people and our process 294 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: is really cool. You know, we're writing these stories that 295 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: really are built to teach a value, and so we 296 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: partner with an author for just about every single book, 297 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: and so you know, they're experts on their topic. You know. So, 298 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: like Dana lash is a topic on the Second Amendment. 299 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: So we basically talked to him. We're like, all right, 300 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: how do we how do we write a children's book 301 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: that teaches that teaches the Second Amendment. 302 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: That's a challenge. 303 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: And so we just heard her go talk about the 304 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: Second Amendment, talk about you know, everything in that, and 305 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: we distilled it down and took it into our world 306 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: and then came back with her with a first draft 307 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 3: and then she was like, well, no, you're missing the marquee. 308 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: And back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, 309 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: until the end result is we've taken the core lesson 310 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: and brought it into freedom il with our characters and 311 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: made it just really fun and engaging story. 312 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: So why go from being an optimologist to leaving all 313 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: of that and saying I'm going to start this company 314 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: and create a new publishing company and everything. Why not 315 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: just say I'll try a book and get it published 316 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: and see how it goes. 317 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: Well, what happened was I I was saved about four 318 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: years ago, and everything in my life changed after that. 319 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: Quickly after that, I got married, had a kid, and 320 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: so I was just going through a lot, I guess a. 321 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: Lot of big change in my life, and after having Charlotte, 322 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: seeing it's sort of like when you when you get 323 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: a new new car, you see that new car everywhere. 324 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: When I had a kid, I was just noticing the 325 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: indoctrination of our kid every kids everywhere, you know, I 326 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: mean one, it's it's it's pretty easy to see, you know, 327 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: if you get on social media, it is everywhere. And 328 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: for example, Anti Racist Baby was number one book on Amazon. 329 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: My business partner got the latest Nancy Drew book, which 330 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: had a trans character in it. So it was just 331 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: like wow, yeah, yeah, whatever reason, it just stuck with me, 332 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: this whole thing. It just at first I was really angry, 333 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: but then I just was thinking about it, thinking about it, 334 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: and I'm a pretty creative person, and after like a 335 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: few weeks of thinking about it, this idea for Brave 336 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: Books and Freedom Island started to come into my head. 337 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: And then as it became more and more crystallized, it 338 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: just seemed like so much fun. 339 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: Really. I mean, at the end of the day, that's 340 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: sort of what it was. 341 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: It was like, man, I don't want to at the 342 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: end of my life think back and what would happen, 343 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: you know, because I had the sense of like the 344 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 3: cultural zeitgeis that we were about to go into. 345 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: You know, I think a lot of people did. 346 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: To me, there's no bigger issue right now than the 347 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: war for kids, hearts, minds, and souls. And that's how 348 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: I felt. I feel like that's how a lot of 349 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: people felt. And I just had this vision that could 350 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: be that I thought could be really cool and needed. 351 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: And so to say, you know, talk to my wife 352 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 3: and be like, hey, honey, what do you think about 353 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 3: me quitting out themology and doing something kind of crazy? 354 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: And it took some convincing, but she was on board 355 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: once that happened. 356 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: Was so, did you have connections? I mean, did you 357 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: know Kirk Cameron at that point? How this is a 358 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: pretty big undertaking. 359 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: Zero connections, zero really experience. We just figured out a way. 360 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: We sent some cold emails out to some conservative influencers 361 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 3: because I didn't want. 362 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: To just publish the book, publish a book. 363 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: And nobody know about it. So we thought we'd go 364 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 3: the influencer route and had had. Actually, Saint Clair responded, 365 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: she connected me with Jack Psovic, Eliz Johnson, Dan Crenshaw 366 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 3: and those are our first four books. Yeah, and then 367 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: we figured out the e commerce side of things, the 368 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 3: fulfillment side of things, the creative side of things. 369 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: And you kind of had to go that route because 370 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: publishers don't want to publish Christian values anymore. 371 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. And the model that I had 372 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 3: in my head was completely different than the traditional publishing round. 373 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 3: You know, traditional public publishing route. It's you know, you 374 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: sell one book at a time. We wanted to sell 375 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: the world the subscription and create a community of people. 376 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: You know, when Amazon sells your books, you don't know 377 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 3: who buys your books. You have no you have no 378 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: relationship with them. But we were lucky enough to have 379 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: relationships with our customers. 380 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: You know, they they know us. 381 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: They you know, I'll send out my thoughts on whatever's 382 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 3: in the in the news and they sort of know 383 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: what we stand for and they fall in love with us. 384 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 2: So how do they find you? I mean, obviously a 385 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 2: lot of people heard about this situation with Kirk Cameron. 386 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 2: You have some big influencers that are talking about you. 387 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: How do they find you and how many people do 388 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: you have subscribed? Right now? 389 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: They find us all over the place. We've yeah that 390 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: the Kirk Cameron was was huge. We've got our marketing 391 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: now going to where we're all over you know, We've 392 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: we're targeting O our target demographic and they influence. 393 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: This work from the influencers has been huge. 394 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 3: Eventually they'll find their way to Brave books dot com 395 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: and they'll learn more about the freedom Oment Book Club 396 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: and they'll sign up. We've got tens of thousands of 397 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: subscribers and we're growing very quickly. Our goal is to 398 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: be at seventy five thousand by the end of the year. 399 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: And we've got a. 400 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 2: Round of course. But well, what is your advice to 401 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: someone who is seeing what's happening in culture right now 402 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: and says I want to have an impact. Because one 403 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 2: of the things that I've been trying to talk to 404 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: people about is we have these folks who are running 405 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: for office and they're saying, you know, I'll legislate this, 406 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: and I'll legislate that. But oftentimes we're talking about heart 407 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: issues and these are not things that you can legislate, 408 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: you can force people into you can't create this background 409 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: of American values. But a lot of people are saying, Okay, well, 410 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: maybe we haven't been in this creative space. Maybe this 411 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: has been something we've allowed to be taken over and 412 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: taken away from us, and we want to get back in. 413 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: And I've seen folks that have tried to make movies, 414 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: tried to make TV shows. It's very challenging for them. 415 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: And obviously you found that even the books are challenging 416 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 2: because you had to publish on your own, create a 417 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: totally new model. What is your advice for pe people 418 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: who are scared to take that leap? They're afraid, you know, 419 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: what if I go broke? What if I can't do this? 420 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 2: What have you found and what would you say to them? 421 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: I found that it's been incredibly rewarding. It's been a 422 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: lot of fun, and I get to sleep well at night, 423 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: you know, knowing that we're doing good work, and so 424 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: that's that's really neat. I've also my life has just 425 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 3: been so blessed since since doing this. I've got to 426 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 3: become friends with Kirk Cameron and and a lot of 427 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: awesome people like that, you know, that's just sort of 428 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: front facing a lot of people behind the scenes that 429 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: I've been been able to connect with and and it's 430 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: been really cool. 431 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, to all the people out. 432 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 3: There, you know, we need we need more doers, you know, 433 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: we need Yeah, we need people that that that do things, 434 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 3: take some risks and and you know, make the best 435 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 3: decision for you based on your life situation. 436 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: If you're young, go for it. 437 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 2: Do you think that the culture war is won that way? 438 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: Do you think it's a capitalist opportunity or do you 439 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 2: feel that it has to come through elected officials. 440 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would not say it has to come through 441 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: elected official I think those are like I mean, you know, 442 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: I'm a Christian and I think that we need we 443 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 3: need more of a spiritual revival than anything. I don't 444 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: think coming at it strictly from a conservative perspective is 445 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: going to do much. At the end of the day, 446 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: I think I think that that we need to that our. 447 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: Churches need to step up. 448 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: I think that we need to you know, find God 449 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 3: as a as a country again. And to me, that's 450 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 3: that's a really only chance of seeing significant change. 451 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: In my opinion. 452 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: Well, we are so impressed with what you're doing, give 453 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: your website, tell people one more time how to find you. 454 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: Brave books dot com. That's the place to go, Brave 455 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 3: books dot com. 456 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 2: Trent Talbot, thank you so much for stepping out and 457 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: doing this because as a parent, it means so much 458 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 2: to me, and honestly, I think that having run for office, 459 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: I look at what you're doing and I think this 460 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: is what we need. We need these folks that can 461 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: come around communities, come around family lies, tell them there 462 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: are other options, and you can make that choice for 463 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: yourself and it doesn't fall totally to government. That this 464 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 2: is a choice that we can actually impact on our own. 465 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: So I appreciate what you're doing. Thank you for coming 466 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 2: on today. 467 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Tutor, and. 468 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 2: Thank you all for joining me on the Tutor Dixon 469 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: Podcast for this episode and others. Make sure you go 470 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: to Tutor disonpodcast dot com. You can subscribe right there 471 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: and make sure you join us the next time on 472 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Have a great day.