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Speaker 4: While the players are out and get ready for the

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four season.

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Speaker 5: Really worry about the important thing.

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Speaker 1: Watch out. Evan's on edge right now. Evan's on edge,

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Speaker 1: generally wrong with him. I'll let him speak for himself.

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Speaker 4: I'm mad Jersey Mike's closed again. They should be focused

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Speaker 4: on staff in players now. Then they can make sure

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Speaker 4: Evan approves later.

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Speaker 5: This is a show where we give our opinions, right.

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Speaker 1: I like, I like they can give their opinion correct.

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Speaker 5: Ready, That's what I'm just gonna like.

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Speaker 1: The tone of this.

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Speaker 5: I am giving you a chance. I have concerns. Is

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Speaker 1: Okay? I agree with Evan.

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Speaker 5: And I was like, oh my god, you told me

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Speaker 5: Love Evan. That's not that hard. How many of that?

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Speaker 5: There was no time, there was no room.

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Speaker 5: Wow, that's my fiance.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome into Patriots Unfiltered. And that's right, folks.

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Speaker 1: Sorry you're hearing Duce's voice because Fred and Paul are

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Speaker 1: out today. We got the kids. We brought in Matisa

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Speaker 1: it's Tamara, it's Alex, it's Evan, it's Deuced, it's Matis.

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Speaker 1: We got the whole crew. Matt is here in the booth. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the guys are a vacation. I think I think Fred's

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Speaker 5: The kids are taking over.

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Speaker 6: Watch out, am I kid?

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Speaker 1: Am I kid?

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Speaker 5: You're like at the you know, the holidays, Like you're

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Speaker 5: like the guy sitting at the kids table that doesn't.

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Speaker 8: It's a relief Sometimes move is actually really hip, like

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Speaker 1: that's right, folks, he's here. You can call in you yea.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's a bad take.

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Speaker 1: So we got a Wiley crew here today, and there's

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Speaker 1: the last few days, we've had Patriots and now coaches.

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Speaker 1: We can get into that we got the franchise tag deadline?

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Speaker 1: Is that I think it's day Evan, Is that correct? Yes?

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Speaker 5: Four o'clock is today? Is that when you can start

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Speaker 1: Four o'clock today, guy and Phillips reportedly released slater retirement,

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Speaker 8: And that was like cool because no matter what day

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Speaker 8: But I just always appreciated that he was so personable

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Speaker 9: Evan goes the last game in the locker room. Well,

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll say I'm not in the locker room as

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Speaker 6: much as tamorn Alex, but last year working on the

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Speaker 1: It's just like, oh my god, this is so exciting

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think the next next thing you

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Speaker 1: Like it's getting there, and it's like Whise kind of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone else is so dynasty like it was a starter,

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Speaker 1: of course, we we wish Matthew Slater the best, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see. I know there's tons of messages

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Speaker 1: I think at least Guy acknowledged it on Twitter. You know,

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Speaker 1: You know, what do you guys just think about about

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that, Well, my first initial reaction is,

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Speaker 5: You know, if Paul was here, he would say, you

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Speaker 5: I think Slater retiring is another thing, like how many

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Speaker 9: So I feel like when I saw it, I kind

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Speaker 1: I mean, Slater was a great guy that Lawrence Guy

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Speaker 8: I was going to say, like we'd be remiss not

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Speaker 8: no one kept us.

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Speaker 3: Busier with community.

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Speaker 8: I mean we were joking about this with the cur

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Speaker 3: Loved working with them. I'll definitely miss them.

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Speaker 8: I had a great relationship with Andrea too, and our

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Speaker 5: Underrated Patriot, you know, agree all decade team Guy free

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Speaker 5: agent signing. That was kind of just really afterthought, Like

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Speaker 1: Like really just have multiple teams, I mean in the

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Speaker 5: He was really just everything that you would want in

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Speaker 5: He was exactly in their scheme, especially what you look

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Speaker 5: it wasn't like he wasn't playing you know, Adrian Phillips

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's just talk Biefully, you know about Phillips,

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Speaker 1: But he was another great guy who always willing to talk.

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Speaker 1: We did plenty of features on him, so it's just,

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Speaker 5: But towards the end, Yeah, it's too bad that he

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Speaker 5: I feel like he would have been such a great

439
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Speaker 5: Dynasty Patriot because he's just a lunch paiale guy that

440
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 5: just did his job and honestly played linebacker most of

441
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Speaker 5: the time and played it at like two twenty, which

442
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Speaker 5: is like really difficult to do, really good job of

443
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Speaker 5: like understanding how to play within his skill set in

444
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Speaker 5: the box, which is not easy to do. And I

445
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 5: think a lot of these guys, Dugger, Jabriel, Peppers, even Mapu,

446
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 5: they Adrian Phillips sort of started a lot of those

447
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 5: trends in this Patriots defense and basically carved out the

448
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,400
Speaker 5: role and those guys are maybe just a little bit

449
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 5: more dynamic, a little bit more athletic, and younger obviously

450
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Speaker 5: to take that to the next step. So it was

451
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Speaker 5: kind of like Patrick Chung was like the first iteration

452
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Speaker 5: of it. Then Adrian Phillips comes in. He started to

453
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Speaker 5: make it more of like a pseudo linebacker role, and

454
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Speaker 5: now those other guys are just doing it at a younger,

455
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 5: more explosive rate. But I think that he had a

456
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Speaker 5: big part of getting lighter, getting faster at the second level,

457
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 5: like a lot of those types of things from a

458
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Speaker 5: football perspective, where Adrian Phillips first and then you know,

459
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Speaker 5: the Duggers and the Peppers's of the world come after that.

460
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Speaker 5: So yeah, you know, last year, I think he played

461
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Speaker 5: nine snaps on defense after the bye, like he was

462
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Speaker 5: just he was an afterthought on defense. And you know,

463
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Speaker 5: I still think he can he can play though, you know,

464
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Speaker 5: still have a role on a fifty three man roster.

465
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Speaker 1: Yeah, le special teams to him, He's kind of a

466
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Speaker 1: special team's guy. He was, you know the guy. Yeah,

467
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Speaker 1: I mean that's another one which I think if Paul

468
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Speaker 1: was here. That's something you're like, all right, let's turn

469
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Speaker 1: over some of these special teams guys. Let's turn over,

470
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Speaker 1: you know, some of the older defensive linemen. Last bit

471
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Speaker 1: of of kind of recent news, though, was the full

472
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Speaker 1: not the full announcement of the coaching staff. I guess

473
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Speaker 1: it was just the new members of the coaching staff.

474
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Speaker 5: So we still still have a few Belichick era things

475
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Speaker 5: where like I had to fill in the gaps of like,

476
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Speaker 5: oh right, that guy's still under contract, and you know,

477
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Speaker 5: we couldn't just announce the whole coaching staff. Yeah, just

478
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Speaker 5: new editions.

479
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Speaker 1: Only we're still waiting on I guess Brian Belichick. Pelgrino

480
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Speaker 1: reportedly back, Troy Brown reportedly back from Doug Kyde in

481
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Speaker 1: some kind of role, you know, talking a little bit

482
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Speaker 1: with Evan though. I mean, Tyler Hughes is gonna come back.

483
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Speaker 1: He was here, he was away at Washington working with

484
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Speaker 1: some pretty good wide receivers.

485
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Speaker 5: That's the biggest thing for me with Tyler Hughes. It's like,

486
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Speaker 5: once we get an opportunity to talk about it, it's like,

487
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 5: all right, here's my list. Pennix dune't say, Polk, just

488
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 5: tell me everything. You know about these guys because you know,

489
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 5: he's a call control coach at Washington last year and

490
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 5: obviously was was very hands on with a lot of

491
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 5: these guys in the draft. You know, I mean, that

492
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Speaker 5: whole offense is going to get drafted somewhere. Yeah, so

493
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Speaker 5: you might as well pick his brain about those types

494
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Speaker 5: of things.

495
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Speaker 1: And it's a good one. I mean, I said, you know,

496
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Speaker 1: it felt like the Van Pelt offense was really that.

497
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Speaker 1: That's the big piece of this. Evan you know, wrote

498
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: up a really good write up on that, and you know,

499
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 1: it's hard to like analyze all these guys, but you know,

500
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: just kind of funny personal story to share, which I

501
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,239
Speaker 1: was joking with Evan yesterday. We were talking about right up,

502
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Speaker 1: but Bob mcnell, the new tight Ends coach, was actually

503
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: went to my town's high school in the eighties and

504
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Speaker 1: like I watched him playing football growing up. Like he's

505
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Speaker 1: like our high school legend. His dad, his dad was

506
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Speaker 1: a coach at BC. But but Bob junior was was

507
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: a star at Holliston High School. Went on, he also

508
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: played at BC for a little bit Bridget School. So yeah,

509
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: so Bridget, so another Holliston, another Hollis.

510
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Speaker 5: He's got quite their resume, Like he's been around and

511
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 5: he's coached multiple receivers and tight ends, so he's got

512
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Speaker 5: he's got experience, and I think that that's one thing

513
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Speaker 5: you along with the just how large the staff is,

514
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Speaker 5: which I think stood out. Uh, some of these guys

515
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Speaker 5: that are maybe a little bit more inexperienced are then

516
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Speaker 5: supplemented by guys that are that are very experienced. On

517
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Speaker 5: the offensive sciety.

518
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Speaker 8: Of inexperienced guys, I thought it was kind of cool

519
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 8: a little. This isn't a huge hire by any means,

520
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 8: but it was cool to see Kobe Tippett on the staff.

521
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 8: I know we worked him out last year. I think

522
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Speaker 8: he was fresh out of college, but.

523
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he coached thet Toughts last year for.

524
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Speaker 8: A three year, so it's cool to see them bringing

525
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Speaker 8: him in trying to build them up.

526
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Speaker 3: We love the Nepple Highers.

527
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Speaker 9: First of all, it's cool to just see positions posted period, like.

528
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Speaker 6: From the website.

529
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Speaker 1: I agree literally, and I mean it's a it's a

530
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Speaker 1: big staff. You can't see my my nerdy board here,

531
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Speaker 1: but I mean it's you know, compared to what it was.

532
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Speaker 1: It's I mean, assistant coaches you've got quality control coaches,

533
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Speaker 1: something you didn't really have. And you know, to be honest,

534
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: like that feels like a little bit why we got

535
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Speaker 1: to where we were because the small coaching staff people left.

536
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: There was no one really to fill those shoes. Now,

537
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Speaker 1: you know, we know why Bill Belichick did that. He wanted,

538
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Speaker 1: you know, ease of communication. He didn't want to play

539
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: telephone through six different coaches to get to the players.

540
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: So this is a different approach, you know, is it

541
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Speaker 1: the right way? We'll see if Girodd's able to you know,

542
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: keep his menu through his menu his message is. But

543
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Speaker 1: you know, through all these different coaches who come from

544
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Speaker 1: a variety of different backgrounds and I know, you know

545
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: we've heard from Gerard a couple of times it's important

546
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Speaker 1: for him to have, you know, different points of view.

547
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Speaker 1: But you just, I think wonder, with such a diverse

548
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Speaker 1: array of experience of inexperience, how how hard is it

549
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: going to be to come to a consensus and really

550
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, have a message that everybody's buying into When

551
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Speaker 1: you have a coaching staff this big of such you know,

552
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Speaker 1: diverse experience and backgrounds, and you know, it's it's just

553
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Speaker 1: it's interesting how it's gonna all come together. I'm sure

554
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Speaker 1: we'll get to meet these guys at some point, but

555
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: it's going to be it's gonna be a giant party.

556
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Speaker 1: There's like thirty coaches right.

557
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Speaker 5: The quality control positions I think are are underrated because

558
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 5: there's a lot of stuff, and the quality control coaches

559
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 5: are basically the interns of the coaching staff. It's like

560
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Speaker 5: all the leftover stuff that maybe position coaches don't have

561
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Speaker 5: time for or frankly don't want to do. Uh. Those

562
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 5: guys pick up the slack in those areas, And I

563
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 5: think that that's really important because towards the end of

564
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 5: last year, we heard a lot of reporting about how,

565
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 5: you know, the staff had gotten so small on the

566
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 5: offensive side of the ball that guys like Bill O'Brien

567
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 5: was like doing way more than an offensive coordinator probably

568
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 5: should be doing. And that just takes your focus away

569
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 5: from important things, or those things slip through the cracks,

570
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 5: the smaller things slip through the cracks and you don't

571
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 5: end up doing it. So quality control coaches on this

572
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 5: staff I think are are good to see. It just

573
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 5: adds just whatever leftovers there is that still need to

574
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 5: be picked up and whatever loose ends still need to

575
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 5: be tied. Those guys can sort of pick up some

576
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Speaker 5: of that slack.

577
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Speaker 6: I feel like the worst part is like now the

578
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 6: staff is pretty much put together, and now you're just

579
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Speaker 6: like I just wanted to start, you know, for the

580
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 6: past twenty five years, you're like, all right, we're gonna

581
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Speaker 6: Bill again. We have Tom, Like like I want, I'm anxious,

582
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Speaker 6: I can't wait.

583
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Speaker 1: Now now we have to build a whole new offense. Yeah.

584
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Speaker 6: But then after the draft, just.

585
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Speaker 1: A couple other you know, coaches just to highlight, you know,

586
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Speaker 1: Vinnie de Palma, who was just a linebacker of BC

587
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: last year, which I saw him play against my my

588
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: Holy Cross Crusaders, but you know, really active middle linebacker guy,

589
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: a little undersize. I think. So I'm not gonna you're

590
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: not gonna try to give the pro football route a try,

591
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: at least as a player. It's gonna come here as

592
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, a young coach on the defensive side of

593
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Speaker 1: the ball. And then the last one is just you know,

594
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: Drew Wilkins. I mean, I love me them Ravens. I

595
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: feel like the Ravens always do a good job developing

596
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: outside linebackers at that level. That They've had a number

597
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: of really high quality players. We got Matthew Judon off

598
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: of them. We tried to get a daily as Thomas,

599
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: not that he was there back then, but but good

600
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Speaker 1: pedigree off of Wilkins and nice to kind of add

601
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Speaker 1: him to the mix with you know, we know what

602
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 1: we have in Covington. We know obviously we're gonna, you know,

603
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: have Covington back as the DC. But Brian Belichick, you know,

604
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 1: just some new blood there at the second level. I

605
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: like that.

606
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, him and Jerry Richardson writer, No, not Richardson.

607
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: Montgomery. Yeah, that's the that's another.

608
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 5: That's the Carolina Panthers owner that did not end well

609
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 5: in Carolina. To Montgomery, though, is a good I think

610
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Speaker 5: a good higher because of how well some of those

611
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 5: interior guys on the Green Bay Packers defensive line have

612
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 5: developed over the years. You know, Daniels, Kenny Clark, like

613
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 5: those types of guys, and you look at like a

614
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 5: Christian Barmore and trying to get him to like that

615
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 5: Kenny Clark level of consistency. Maybe he can help him

616
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 5: out to get there as well. So I really, when

617
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 5: I look at the defensive side, the thing that really

618
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 5: stands out to me though, is that they kept that

619
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Speaker 5: secondary intact. You know, Brian Belichick and Mike Pellegrino coming back,

620
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 5: I think is huge because you know, Covington and Mayo

621
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Speaker 5: are going to coach the front seven and they're going

622
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 5: to have that under wraps, but how they're going to

623
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 5: cover and making sure that that coverage system stays consistent.

624
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 5: I thought it was important. And Pellegrino, you know, Brian

625
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 5: obviously think we know a little bit about because of

626
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 5: his dad. But Pellegrino has really taken a lot of

627
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 5: corners and made them into some pretty productive players, going

628
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 5: all the way back to like j. C. Jackson and

629
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 5: early on in his career, but even last year, like

630
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 5: he pulls like Alex Austin off his couch and he

631
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 5: ends up being like a solid player for them down

632
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 5: the stretch. Like those things are are are you know,

633
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 5: shouldn't be understated. Like that's hard to do to get

634
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 5: some guy like up and running like that like they

635
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 5: did with the player like Alex Austin and like.

636
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: You mean you mentioned like guys that you're not really

637
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: expecting anything. I mean, he's done it with a number

638
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: of undrafted guys to come in and contributed. But I

639
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: thought what was most interesting was when we talked about

640
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: it going in, was like, all right, now he's got

641
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: a super elite athlete in Christian Gonzalez, Like, what does

642
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: it look like when he takes this guy in? You know,

643
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: obviously he was cut short, but in that small sample size,

644
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 1: he looked like legit player, looked like he was, you know,

645
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: getting it immediately, able to make plays on the ball

646
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: right out of the gate as a rookie corner. So

647
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: so I agree with Pelogrino some real crime.

648
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Speaker 5: I mean one of the knocks on Gonzales coming out

649
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 5: was you know, getting a little bit lost in his

650
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 5: own coverage at times and not necessarily being keyed into

651
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 5: the structure, and that was not an issue out of

652
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Speaker 5: the game for him, And I think that that speaks

653
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 5: to coaching, Like we always knew that he was going

654
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 5: to cover people what man to man, that was not

655
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 5: going to be a concern. But there was you know,

656
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 5: evidence on Oregon's film that he would get a little

657
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 5: bit lost in space at times and instantly that was

658
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 5: not an issue.

659
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Speaker 1: I think of the interception he had on on Tua, right, yeah,

660
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: I mean dropping out and you know, picking it off

661
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: a nice one. So that's that. Of course, the Dynasty

662
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: is out episodes one and two. We recorded a what

663
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: is it the Dynasty Recap podcast? I think the title

664
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: is a no no way. It's the Dynasty Doc Recap pod.

665
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: Recad podcast. Dynasty Dynasty Doc Recap podcast. Say that twelve

666
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: times fast.

667
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 5: But we have that.

668
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: We released that right after the episodes are dropped on

669
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Speaker 1: Thursday night, I think about nine o'clock Thursdays. Well, it

670
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: looks like these things are going to come out, so

671
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if all you guys have had a

672
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: chance to watch those two more episodes coming out that'll

673
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: take us through spygate. You know, one of my one

674
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: of my criticisms coming up is not not a lot

675
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: of time spent on thirty eight and thirty nine those

676
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and then they want a couple more and

677
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: it was great and now let's get to the controversy.

678
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 1: But uh, but overall, any thoughts from you guys just

679
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: on those on those first couple of episodes, I don't

680
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: know if everybody's had a chance. I know, Evan, you

681
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: just you had a chance to watch it.

682
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 5: I watched it pretty much instantly, and I would just

683
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 5: say that it was really cool. You know, we're talking

684
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 5: about a bit, a little bit about this before we

685
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 5: started recording. I not to make anybody feel old, but

686
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 5: I was only nine years old in two thousand and one,

687
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 5: So I was a kid, and I remember, but obviously

688
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 5: as a nine year old, like, you're not really like

689
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 5: what we are now where we like know every single

690
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 5: detail about the team. So it was cool to like

691
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 5: be able to see it now as an adult and

692
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 5: start to understand a little bit better about what was

693
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 5: going on back then. And all I remember as a

694
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 5: as a kid was being so devastated about Drew it

695
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 5: bledsoe And like, I think they did a great job

696
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 5: of painting that picture of this was the guy, like

697
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 5: this is a former number one overall pick, you know,

698
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 5: one hundred million dollar quarterback. They hadn't been super successful

699
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 5: with him as a team, but and he had all

700
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 5: of the tools as a player to be an all

701
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 5: time great quarterback. And you just it wasn't that easy,

702
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 5: Like it wasn't for Bill to make that decision, Like

703
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 5: that was not an easy decision that I don't think

704
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 5: a lot of coaches would have made. I think most

705
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 5: coaches probably would have been went back to Drew blood cell.

706
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 5: So watching that whole thing again was was crazy.

707
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: I just realized I should probably talk to Barth about

708
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: this because Barth is the helmet guy, and that thatking Brady.

709
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 5: Het acts like he like lived through the nineties Patriots,

710
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 5: like he was like a flowbone adult. I'm like you,

711
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 5: how do you know this much about the nineties Patriots?

712
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 5: You were four? Like, I don't under that's.

713
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 6: Such a bad bucket look off.

714
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: No, we saw the picture that I'm like, if Brady

715
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: tried to wear this helmet his career, he would they

716
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: would have gone black and blood.

717
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 6: See. So I'll say I watched it, actually watched with

718
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 6: a friend who's not past fantamic football guy, and he

719
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 6: was locked in. But how many times have we heard

720
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 6: these stories like you know, the snowball, the kick like Vinitaria,

721
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 6: you can't ice him. I'm the best decision you made,

722
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 6: And every single time it's just so good, Like every

723
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 6: single time and watched.

724
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: It, it's the best.

725
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 6: And then I'll talk about this with Evan too, the

726
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 6: part that's like the late nineties early thousands, like they

727
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 6: have a press conference at mass General Hospital to talk

728
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 6: about like they would never do that now.

729
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's crazy. But we'll let you know

730
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: when when we have something update, like the hospital, Like,

731
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: let's all go to the hospital. Media.

732
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 8: Imagine if Twitter and like the Internet and sports media

733
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 8: as it is now, if it was like thriving.

734
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 6: Back, it'd be crazy.

735
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 5: I know.

736
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean you could go through Patriots like the

737
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: last twenty years of like imagine spygate was on Twitter. Oh,

738
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean we got it a little bit with deflate Gate.

739
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: I guess that was the peak.

740
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 8: That was peak sports Twitter was when deflate was out.

741
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 8: That's why it became such a mess.

742
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I feel like Twitter turned like twenty

743
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: twelve twenty thirteens when it went from just like a

744
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: little place to kind of meet up with like minded

745
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: people that make jokes and kind of communicate, and like

746
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: it's so completely useless now for anything real time, you

747
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: like log in and you're like from yesterday the start

748
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: of the third period with the bruinsot to start, I'm

749
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: like like, what, like this is no longer useful? Used

750
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: to be like do you got to go to the

751
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: following side right where it's up to date?

752
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 8: Know?

753
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, then now it's like a newspaper, you wake up,

754
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 9: you open it, and you get caught up what happens.

755
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: That's pretty much.

756
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 5: I just I don't remember which newspaper was to bring

757
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 5: it back to the dynasty, but I do remember, like

758
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 5: the picture of the ambulance that was carrying Drew bledsoe

759
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 5: like going into the hospital, and I just I don't again,

760
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 5: like you just as a kid, the stakes were not

761
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 5: you don't understand you know, like you don't understand that

762
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 5: first of all, this guy is has internal bleeding and

763
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 5: like is in a serious, serious situation medically, but you

764
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 5: also just don't understand the stakes of the decision to

765
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 5: stick with Brady and all that kind of stuff. And

766
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 5: I thought it was cool to like understand that now

767
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 5: as as an adult. And you know, it's a little

768
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 5: disappointing to hear that there's not much football after this, though.

769
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: I know that's I mean, that is I mean, that's

770
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: what we kind of said about in the recap show

771
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: was that for Patriots fans would probably want this to

772
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: be one thing and it's not that it's you know,

773
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: kind of an external point of view on this run.

774
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: And you know, I still think they could have found

775
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: a spot for winning twenty one straight games and you know,

776
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: make a little bit more, you know, I mean coming

777
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: out of two thousand and three, just because it was

778
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,239
Speaker 1: it wasn't just a continuation of two thousand and one

779
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: into two thousand and three. It wasn't just oh this

780
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: is this Like they really like took a half step

781
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: back in OH two and really changed their team and

782
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: O three and became you know, not just like up

783
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: the sparky little up, you know, upstart little underdogs. They

784
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: became a dominant team that could beat you anyway. Like

785
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: we got to beat you nine nothing will beat you

786
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: nine nothing. We got to beat you thirty seven, thirty four,

787
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: We'll do that too.

788
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: You know.

789
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: It's just I think those two teams were really special

790
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: in my mind, and I'm sure plenty of Patriots fans

791
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: out there have, you know, plenty of very special memories

792
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: from those two teams and how good they were, and

793
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: you know, the big games and just that stuff's just

794
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: kind of glanced over. You know, it's barely even mentioned,

795
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: you know, not to mention, just like the playoff run,

796
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: I mean going you know, losing to Pittsburgh, going back

797
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh.

798
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 8: But and to that point, there's so many fans, like

799
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 8: like our age group, where what I remember from like

800
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 8: the one Super Bowl was being in kindergarten and going

801
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 8: to school and people were talking about the groundhogs seeing

802
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 8: their shot out, and I was like, who cares about

803
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 8: the groundhog? The Patriots won the Super Bowl, But like

804
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 8: that was the extent of my memory. So if they

805
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 8: had dog more into that and shown us more of that,

806
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 8: it would have been so cool for I think the

807
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 8: twenty somethings.

808
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 6: Three what I was about to like, yeah, exactly.

809
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 5: I also have to ask, like, how do you not

810
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 5: get asked to be the super fans in these days?

811
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 5: Like weeks.

812
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 8: Did we see Kara in the first two episodes Kara

813
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 8: Doolittle is she was interviewed for it.

814
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if she makes the Final.

815
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 5: Cup seriously, like and then like Paul Perrillo and Drew Bledsoe,

816
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 5: that would have been it.

817
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: Would be too mushy, would exactly.

818
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 5: That's the point.

819
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I should have won my bloods and

820
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: jersey today, Like it's just I've been looking for an

821
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: excuse to wear it because it's a reversible, it's the

822
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: nineties one that everybody loves I could wear like I

823
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: could wear white for the first half and then flipping

824
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: over for blue the second half. Everyone would be really excited.

825
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: I probably wait for Paul to be here though, But

826
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: just quick aside, funny people are emailing the show and uh,

827
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: somebody's getting back Fred's out of office, just trying to

828
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: email the show.

829
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: But well, Fred does always the reply to all.

830
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 5: He's a big reply.

831
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: Emails.

832
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 8: I need to let people in on them too, because

833
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 8: he'll put everything he wants to be said in the

834
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 8: subject of the email. Yeah, there'll be no text in

835
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 8: the favorite thing.

836
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 3: It's my favorite thing.

837
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 9: Oh my god.

838
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Maybe Cody was emailing him directly

839
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: and got that. So I hopefully other everyone else isn't getting.

840
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 6: Fred's up all the hotel.

841
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: I hope Fred is on a beach somewhere and just

842
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, taking it all in and relaxing, but kind

843
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: of set the stage here, so you know, give us

844
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: a Calliff Pasts five hundred. Love to hear from everybody

845
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: what you guys are thinking out there of the Dynasty

846
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: doc and you know, two more episodes coming up as

847
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: we and I have to, like I say, like, I'm

848
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: kind of more interested in this stuff. Like I feel

849
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: like I'm so locked in on one oh three those

850
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: things lately that like I want to get into the

851
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: new perspectives I've kind of heard that, you know, as

852
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: much as we saw some new footage in those ones.

853
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: I want to see the new stuff. I want to

854
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: hear them talk about, you know, as much as the

855
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: controversy at the end. And I know it's not football,

856
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: but like, let's see if we get Bill out of

857
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: press conference mode, Like it just felt like the whole

858
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: that whole episode, he's just kind of going to.

859
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 5: Be honest with you, he seemed disinterested, yeah.

860
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: And doing it or even like didn't want to be

861
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: doing it.

862
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 9: Yeah.

863
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 5: I just the one thing I will say, like I

864
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: know this is gonna maybe come off as is kind

865
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 5: of like you know, company guy. But it's like really

866
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 5: frustrating to me that we have to make this Dynasty

867
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 5: doc about how the how craft hates Bill, Like like

868
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 5: why do we can't we just enjoy it? Like can't

869
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 5: we just reminisce about like the good times and not

870
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 5: look into every single little comment and be like, oh

871
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 5: that was a dig at Bill, like who cares? Like,

872
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 5: or just just watch it and enjoy it, like we

873
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 5: had an unprecedented twenty year run that's never gonna be replicated.

874
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 5: And this is a documentary that's all all four Patriots

875
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 5: fans to just reminisce and have fun, like remembering the

876
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 5: good old days. And I like go on Twitter and

877
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 5: every single article is like this Ben vole and this

878
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 5: should have been called kill Bill, Like really, like I

879
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 5: just maybe I just have rose colored classes. But in

880
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 5: the first two episodes, I didn't didn't really feel that way.

881
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 5: It was controversial for him not to go back to

882
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 5: Blood Cell, Like I don't know what else you wanted

883
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 5: him to say, Like they just paid him one hundred

884
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 5: million dollars, so he was the highest paid quarterback in

885
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 5: NFL history. Not going back to Drew Bledsoe and sticking

886
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 5: with a sixth round pick who was in his second

887
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 5: year in the NFL and had like three starts under

888
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 5: his belt was controversial. Well, it has nothing to do

889
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 5: with anybody hating anybody. It just is a fact.

890
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: If he had just made it, took the easy way

891
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: out there, if there might not have been a Tom Brady,

892
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, but I just said, let's put Drew back

893
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: in and you lose in the playoffs and who knows

894
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: what ends up happening to Tommy b Just.

895
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 5: Enjoy it, like, don't make it about all of this.

896
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 8: Well, what's interesting you say that because having only I

897
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 8: haven't gotten my hands on an Apple TV log and

898
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 8: yet that's really subscribed.

899
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 3: Yeah I could.

900
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: I haven't broken into the.

901
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 3: No, I'm just kidding. I don't do that, not anymore

902
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: at least.

903
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 8: But it's interesting you say that, because I feel like

904
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 8: that really is all the conversation I've heard about it.

905
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: Is it painting Bill unfairly?

906
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: Is it's just because the wounds are fresh? I mean,

907
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: I think that's inevitably. That's that's what everybody wants to

908
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: talk about right now? Is was it Bill? And you know,

909
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: was it tom and all that?

910
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 8: And do you think they're kicking themselves, the Apple production crew,

911
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 8: for not maybe waiting a little longer just now that

912
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 8: this is all played out?

913
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: And I mean, in some ways, I think it's perfect

914
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: that it happened right when Bill left here, and that

915
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: was kind of the you know, like a really hard

916
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: stop to the dynasty. I mean, not that you know,

917
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: it was still a dynasty when they left, But I

918
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I think I feel like I need to

919
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: see the whole thing. I'm very curious how how it

920
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: all plays out, especially.

921
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 5: Some of the later episodes of it are where the

922
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 5: shots that Bill really start to come out, because that's

923
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 5: covers Brady leaving and the downfall of it, and so

924
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 5: a lot of these people you know that I that

925
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 5: are getting it in the media are getting like sneak

926
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 5: peaks of like the whole ten episodes, and so I

927
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 5: think a lot of this that's coming out is about

928
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 5: the end of the documentary.

929
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: He was like a Tom quote I think that we've

930
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: heard of him saying basically he was not going to

931
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: resign here no matter what. Yeah, there's Danny a. Mondola

932
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: we played for Tom, or we worked for Bill, we

933
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: played for Tom. There's the line from Robert Kraft saying

934
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 1: I was just trying to hold it all together, which

935
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: you know, we kind of speculated was that really even

936
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: about that? But sounds like it is, So yeah, that's

937
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: the you know, that's the I mean, I think we

938
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: mostly know it all. I just I just wonder if

939
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna come out of this for people like us

940
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: who have been you know, we're obviously ingrained in this

941
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: and it's our daily life. We've lived it. Is there

942
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: any gonna be anything new or aha or because so

943
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: far I haven't really had any new aha moments. I've

944
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: had some.

945
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 5: You're a very unique perspective. You know very much about all.

946
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 6: But it's so true.

947
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 8: Like I remember watching those like the things you guys

948
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 8: would produce before I worked here, like after the Super Bowls,

949
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 8: and just like those those features, it was like a

950
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 8: high you got watching them and learning like every little detail.

951
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: It was so cool.

952
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 8: It was one of the funnest parts and whenever, like

953
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 8: one of those not that people really write long form

954
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 8: features like this anymore, but when you get those good

955
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 8: long forms about just being around Brady and the team dynamics,

956
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 8: it was like I could not get my hands on

957
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 8: that stuff fast enough.

958
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I mean that's the whole like three

959
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: Games to Glory that they did. Oh, that's exactly what

960
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 1: I mean. That was amazing. I mean that's every game

961
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: they did commentary, they had all the behind the scenes stuff.

962
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I never I own all six

963
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: of them. I never in a million years would have

964
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: like thought I would be working for you know, Matt

965
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: Smith and the people that were heavily involved in producing

966
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: those and then came to do your jobs, which they

967
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: did I think for the last three, which again just

968
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: you know, those are the things that I always lived for.

969
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: With you know, America's game, it kind of was what

970
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: it was. That's a little bit more mainstream and you'd have,

971
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, a few guys kind of recap the season.

972
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: But the specialty produced stuff, you got so much behind

973
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: the pink stripes with Ernie Adams, there was so much

974
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: good stuff. So it's like it's hard, You're right, Evan,

975
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: I mean we I'm like waiting for any little bit,

976
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: like like if there's a Bill Belichick miked up moment

977
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: I missed, I'm like, I don't, I gotta see it.

978
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 5: Did you see Have you seen the footage from the

979
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 5: draft room? I had never seen that. I'm putting the

980
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 5: call in to Brady, I don't. I had never seen that.

981
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 5: And obviously i'd never seen the apartment footage. Okay, that

982
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 5: was new.

983
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

984
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

985
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 5: But but in terms of the story, like what are

986
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 5: they really going to tell Patriots dot com employees.

987
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: About the story.

988
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 6: What about just the difference of like the early thousands

989
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 6: NFL of like your first round Picks are in a

990
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 6: motel on Route one, Like.

991
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 5: That wasn't that wasn't a great look. But that's been

992
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 5: kind of really help our case.

993
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: It's like part of the mystique of those Patriots were

994
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: like you know, Rodny Harrison getting taken to like the

995
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: ground round like it was like, no, we just we

996
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: don't worry about football. We're just crappy hotel, crappy restaurants,

997
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: a small town. But now that we have beautiful Patriot

998
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: place here, you can you know, you can go to

999
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: Davos if you want.

1000
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 6: You're putting Christian Gonzales in the holiday and like.

1001
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: The seaport wasn't.

1002
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: What it was.

1003
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, boy, Like the ty Law stuff with Brady in

1004
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 5: the apartment the condo, like I just ate that stuff up.

1005
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: I was like, this is hilarious.

1006
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 5: Like Tylaw thinks that he left like one hundred and

1007
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 5: fifty thousand dollars worth of furnacing around. I mean like

1008
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 5: that that's that's the type of stuff that like they're

1009
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 5: not gonna tell us anything new about the story of

1010
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 5: that of the two thousand and one Patriots, like we

1011
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 5: all know that, but the behind the scenes stuff of

1012
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 5: like the relationships and and that kind of stuff. That

1013
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 5: was that was fun.

1014
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: No, we don't need to hear about lay like getting

1015
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: cut now. I mean you have him in the first

1016
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: two episodes, like I mean he's like thickest thieves with

1017
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: ty Law, like they seem like they're like the two

1018
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: boys who are running the show. And now it's like,

1019
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: oh yeah, by the way, they didn't cut them into

1020
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: it was the whole thing. Don't worry about it.

1021
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 5: I will. On the other I will say Ernie Adams

1022
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 5: did hurt my feelings a little bit, like he brought

1023
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 5: it back. Yeah, he brought it back. He brought it

1024
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 5: back around, Like I was like, all right, he kind

1025
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 5: of you know, he was great in this, so he was.

1026
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 5: But yeah, saying that we don't know anything, like okay.

1027
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 6: What about the produced piece of him driving to the stadium.

1028
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 5: Perfect, perfect, the snow's falling. I mean it's great, it's

1029
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 5: exactly what I don't know, a camera there. He was.

1030
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 5: He was great, He was awesome.

1031
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just all in and for coming up

1032
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: to he's he's heavily involved in the Spygate episode as well.

1033
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,959
Speaker 1: So that's uh, that that that's some more Ernie fun

1034
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: who Uh, it's funny because I still remember the time

1035
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 1: when Ernie was this mysterious figure that you didn't really

1036
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: ever hear anything about. I think they wrote an article

1037
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: about him maybe around seven o eight somewhere in there

1038
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 1: about like.

1039
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 8: The pink stripes the first time. Yeah, I remember him

1040
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 8: even being on my rightar.

1041
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: ESPN. Thing was like who's the genius behind the genius?

1042
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: And you know, they just talked about him going back

1043
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: to high school with Bill and you know the connections

1044
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: that they they had had when Ernie had already like

1045
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: read Bill's dad's football book and now you know, and

1046
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: then they formed a friendship. So he's he's, he's But

1047
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: suddenly now we can't get enough Ernie, Like he's everywhere.

1048
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: He's in documentaries, he's in our schedule, release video, It's

1049
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: like anywhere you want Ernie. He's not no longer man

1050
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: a mystery.

1051
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 5: Not to take anything away from Belichick, but how much

1052
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 5: of all this was actually was Ernie like as well

1053
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 5: as really come up to in light I think with

1054
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 5: this doc because he wasn't the public figure of it all.

1055
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 5: But it just seems like Belichick having that consickliary to

1056
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 5: like do all you know, the nitty gritty detail work.

1057
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 5: You know, we've all seen the Malcolm Butler like interception

1058
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 5: break down of hour and he like found that play

1059
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 5: and like Seattle's goal line package, and that's how they

1060
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 5: were prepared for like those types of things. I think

1061
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 5: that when Ernie retired like that, you felt it it

1062
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 5: was instantaneous that they weren't as detailed as they were before. Yeah,

1063
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 5: they just didn't have that attention to detail that they

1064
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 5: did when he was around. So we started to talk

1065
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 5: about like pillars at the success. Obviously, Brady and Belichick

1066
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 5: are on their own like tier there, but in terms

1067
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 5: of Tier two guys, I start to come in like

1068
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 5: Ernie along with you know, Dante Scarnekio obviously too, but

1069
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 5: like Ernie is very high up there.

1070
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I wonder some of the little curveballs

1071
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: they threw over the years, like how many of them

1072
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: kind of started with Ernie, you know, like yeah, the

1073
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: Denver O three when they snapped the ball out of

1074
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: the end zone, the Shenanigans in twenty fourteen with you know,

1075
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: eligible offensive lineman against the Ravens. You know, just how

1076
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: many of those things were Like Ernie in the middle

1077
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: of the week could go with the bill and be

1078
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: like a you know, like I'm a problem here if

1079
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: we get it after our offense of linemen knocking out

1080
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: with that's my but yeah, no, you're right, You're right.

1081
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 6: He was.

1082
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: He was definitely a big part of it from behind

1083
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: the scenes. Let's jump over the phones real quick. Jason's

1084
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: been holding on for a while and I want to

1085
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: get to him here before we break for Paul's lunch. Hey, Jason,

1086
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: what's going on? Jason? You there, we're talking to you.

1087
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: You're Ron. Thanks for calling. What's up? Cork? So what's up?

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00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 11: So?

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00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 12: I got a weird hill you guys. I feel like

1090
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 12: you're overvaluating the quarterback. And I know it sounds weird

1091
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 12: to say, especially coming from where we all did. Yeah,

1092
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 12: but it's uh, you got eleven people playing in every play,

1093
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 12: and you can't play eleven on ten. You just lose

1094
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 12: every single time. I feel like we're giving the I

1095
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 12: don't know, the margin of importance to the quarterback the

1096
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 12: sort of I don't know, overweened estimation of how just

1097
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 12: dreadfully important this person is.

1098
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: So what do you feel you feel like with the draft?

1099
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: You mean or just generally.

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00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 12: Well in the.

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00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 13: Draft in particular.

1102
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 12: I guess that's the situation that we're in right now,

1103
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 12: where you know, we're looking to improve the team and

1104
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 12: the first and only thing is the quarterback. Kevin sure,

1105
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 12: I get that we don't we don't really have a quarterback.

1106
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 12: That's fine, and improving a positions where you don't have

1107
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 12: some good solution, that's obviously where we should be looking.

1108
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 12: But it's not like we don't have any other holes

1109
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 12: on the roster and we can't improve in other ways.

1110
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: So you'd be team take a take a tackle a

1111
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver that you truly believe in, rather than taking

1112
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: a swing at a quarterback that you might not believe

1113
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: in just because he's a quarterback.

1114
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 12: Right, Well, we have a lot of holes, we have

1115
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 12: a lot of places to upgrade, We have a lot

1116
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 12: of different directions that we could go, a lot of

1117
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 12: areas where we don't really feel like we can rely

1118
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 12: on the roster to get it done for us. So

1119
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 12: it just makes more sense to be it in two.

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00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 12: It's better that we would look to the area where

1121
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 12: we can most reliably upgrade the position. And I don't

1122
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 12: think that necessarily has to be quarterback.

1123
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, no, go ahead, let

1124
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: you finish.

1125
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 12: No, it's just, you know, the quarterback has the ball

1126
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 12: on every play. I understand that. You know, if we're

1127
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 12: dividing it up into you know, each play into whatever

1128
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 12: ten percent or you know, a little bit less than

1129
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 12: ten percent importance for each position, that maybe you know

1130
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 12: a couple of the percentage points of the guard's influence

1131
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 12: on the play, the left guard of the right guard's

1132
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 12: influence on the play has to go to the quarterback.

1133
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 12: But it's not as though we could win playing eleven

1134
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 12: on ten.

1135
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I gotcha. Thanks, Jase, appreciate calling in. I

1136
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: mean it's probably something we're all kind of talking about.

1137
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: I mean, that's you know, I think generally if Drake

1138
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: may or Caleb Williams were to fall to three, I

1139
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: don't think really there'd be much hesitation for most Patriot

1140
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: fans who are kind of getting into the draft these days.

1141
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we start to get questions though

1142
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: with like, you know, Jade Daniels, is he you know,

1143
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 1: is he that guy? At that point? But I don't

1144
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: know what you would you think of, well, going to America?

1145
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 9: Did you guys see the tea that Justin Field's unfollowed

1146
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 9: the Bears on social media.

1147
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 5: I can't get no, but.

1148
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 9: Why are you doing that?

1149
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: That's weird? The Falcons the Falcons.

1150
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 6: Not the Falcon Falcons players, that's weird. Well, Drink london't

1151
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 6: follow back Drake London, Kyle Pits and beat So that's weird.

1152
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 9: So I think that, like, that's fishy and just leads

1153
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 9: to the like the notion that, okay, maybe those guys

1154
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 9: could fall to the Patriots, or or maybe like a

1155
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 9: trade might happen where the Patriots might get a veteran quarterback.

1156
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: Who knows.

1157
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 9: You never know. I just think there's a lot of

1158
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 9: time to tell what's going to happen. I mean, I'm

1159
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 9: still confused by the Commanders hiring Caleb's former coach. I

1160
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 9: think that has a lot of play in mind. So

1161
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 9: I don't know. It's it's so hard to say at

1162
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 9: this point what's going to happen because there's so many things.

1163
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 6: Pretty out on the court. Like I like Jaden and

1164
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 6: Drake May, but I am so out like in Panix

1165
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 6: is okay, but I'm so out on the other quarterbacks,

1166
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 6: Like we didn't go four and thirteen to take JJ McCarthy.

1167
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 9: Like, oh, completely out on him.

1168
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 5: That that JJ McCarthy is an option maybe at thirty four,

1169
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 5: but you're not taking JJ McCarthy at three.

1170
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, I'm saying that if you take if

1171
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 6: you take Marvin Harrison with your three, yeah, I'd like, no,

1172
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 6: just get something else. We'll trade for veteran.

1173
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1174
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 9: I just don't say no to him because he's I'm like,

1175
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 9: you might as well just keep Mack at that point,

1176
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 9: why are we keeping him?

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00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 5: I mean that's maybe. I don't know. I think the

1178
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 5: biggest thing in in reality, you know, it's we talked

1179
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 5: about this when we did our mock draft, which is

1180
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 5: up now, so go why.

1181
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh shameless plug, yeah, until we.

1182
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 5: Until we get through free agency and get to the

1183
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 5: draft in April. I think looking at the Patriots roster

1184
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 5: on was it February twentieth and saying, oh, like this

1185
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 5: roster is too far away for a quarterback and this

1186
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 5: that the other thing, It's like, well, in a month,

1187
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 5: we might not feel that way. Like in a month,

1188
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 5: if they have T Higgins and Calvin Ridley catching passes

1189
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 5: from the quarterback, are you still gonna And I'm not

1190
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 5: saying that they're gonna be able to pull that off.

1191
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 5: I'm just there's different variations of they're not ready for

1192
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 5: the quarterback that we are not there yet. Now, with

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00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 5: that being said, you look at a lot of these

1194
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 5: other teams that have rebuilt and really started from from

1195
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 5: the studs and rebuilt it. Had they have taken a

1196
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 5: more patient approach of going a couple of years. You know,

1197
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 5: I just pulled up Nick Cassario got to Houston in

1198
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one. They didn't take the quarterback until this

1199
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 5: past draft. So they went through two full draft cycles

1200
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 5: of drafting Derek Stingley Junior, of drafting Nico Collins, of

1201
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 5: drafting these other guys to then eventually help the quarterback

1202
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 5: when they did get you know, CJ. Strout. So, yes,

1203
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 5: that's true. But my my my pushback or my like

1204
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 5: hesitation with the Patriots actually doing that is you just

1205
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 5: fired Bill Belichick. You have seventy five million dollars in

1206
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 5: cap space and the third overall pick in the draft.

1207
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 5: Is ownership in the fan base really going to allow

1208
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 5: Elliott Wolf and Gerrod Mayo a three year rebuilt? Are

1209
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 5: they going to have the patients to see that through?

1210
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 5: Because I look at it and say, they're probably just

1211
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 5: gonna spend a ton of money, draft a quarterback and

1212
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 5: try to do what they did in twenty twenty one,

1213
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 5: but better and only better, right, and like that is

1214
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 5: that the best way to go about it. You could

1215
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 5: definitely make the argument that it's not like you look

1216
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 5: at teams like Detroit Houston that have really rebuilt the

1217
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 5: last couple of years. They they slow played it, like

1218
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 5: they went a little bit. Yeah, they they just didn't.

1219
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 5: They didn't go all in on the quarterback right away.

1220
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 5: They they they filled in other holes.

1221
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: They did what's his face from Stanford Davis Mills, Well

1222
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: they you know what I mean. Like, there's some flyers.

1223
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a JJ McCarthy type of yeah,

1224
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, day three kind of I do.

1225
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 9: Not want J. J. Jamilton, Like, I just think I

1226
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 9: have to be out on people who.

1227
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: Like didn't go to entertainer in Virginia Tech.

1228
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 11: No.

1229
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 9: I just don't think that you should be moving up

1230
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 9: the draft simply because your team won a national championship.

1231
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 9: I just don't like, I mean, J McCarthy, I don't

1232
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 9: care that Mac Jones won a national championship. Great.

1233
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 5: I think JJ McCarthy is probably one of the most

1234
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 5: in terms of what the league thinks of j. J. McCarthy,

1235
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 5: and then what the media thinks of JJ McCarthy. There's

1236
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 5: probably no other prospect in the draft that has such

1237
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 5: an opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of those opinions,

1238
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 5: and I think for the league, for better or worse,

1239
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 5: I hate kind of put phrasing it this way. He

1240
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 5: is a clean prospect. He played, he was on a

1241
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 5: team that won a lot of games. He doesn't have

1242
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 5: any major injury red flags, he doesn't have a major

1243
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 5: character concerns, and he's got NFL starter physical traits.

1244
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 9: So you just describe Mac Jones, You literally just describe

1245
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 9: Mac Johns.

1246
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 5: But that's how the league views it. Like the league

1247
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 5: views it as this guy is I can win with

1248
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 5: this guy because he's just gonna come in and do

1249
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 5: the right things. He's going to be a clean guy

1250
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 5: on and off the field. Whereas like a guy like

1251
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 5: Michael Pennix has undeniably more traits than in better tape

1252
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 5: than J. J. McCarthy, but he's got four season ending injuries.

1253
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 5: You know, a guy like Caleb Williams cry to his mom.

1254
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 5: So certain people aren't gonna like that, Like that's just

1255
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 5: the reality.

1256
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 9: I've had enough with the clean guy. We have a

1257
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 9: T shirt, key chain hat, like, we've got all the

1258
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 9: things that we need to see with the clean guy.

1259
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 9: I don't need to see that again.

1260
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 5: I'm not saying for the Patriots. I'm just telling you

1261
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 5: why JJ McCarthy in April is going to go higher

1262
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 5: than everybody in the media thinks.

1263
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 9: Well, long as he doesn't go here, great, I just like,

1264
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 9: I just there's nothing about him that I'm like, yes,

1265
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 9: I want to be my quarterback. There's nothing I'm pounding

1266
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 9: the table on about it. Like, sure he's clean, like

1267
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 9: he'll get he'll study, he'll you know, not make mistakes

1268
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 9: that'll cost the team. Great, But like, can he your

1269
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 9: point with Brock Party? Can he get you over the needle?

1270
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 5: Can he get you My comparison for JJ McCarthy is

1271
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 5: Brock Party because.

1272
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 1: Like it's a hate company to an extent.

1273
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 5: But the one thing that I will give Rock Purty

1274
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 5: is that he does have some of that mobility to

1275
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 5: move around a little bit and make throws out of

1276
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 5: you know, on the move. JJ McCarthy's the same way.

1277
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy has some of that ability to create outside

1278
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 5: the pocket, to escape and then make throws after the

1279
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 5: play breaks down a little bit. The issue is is

1280
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 5: that he overthrows the ball and it's like good luck

1281
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 5: finding out where the ball is going to go some

1282
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 5: of the time. And then he just his processing is

1283
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 5: extremely slow and he'll just stare down guys, yeah, and

1284
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 5: throw bad picks like that. But at the same time,

1285
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 5: you know, he has some of that athleticism mobility out

1286
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 5: of structure play like Purty does. And you think as

1287
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 5: an NFL team, just like with the Niners, that like,

1288
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 5: if we can make this guy work, and that's how

1289
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 5: a lot of teams look at it. It's just I

1290
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 5: disagree with that approach, like and it's not about the

1291
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 5: Patriots at three, Like the Patriots are not drafting JJ

1292
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 5: McCarthy third overall. But I'm just saying he's probably gonna

1293
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 5: be a back end of the first round guy because

1294
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 5: of all these reasons.

1295
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: Yikes. All right, well, why don't we take a ceremonial

1296
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 1: break in honor of Paul eating his food probably somewhere

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Speaker 1: and coming up after the break though, I want to

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Speaker 1: actually talk about a little free agency. You know, Evan,

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Speaker 1: you wrote mail bag today talking about defense. Some holes

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Speaker 7: As I think back over the past few seasons, I

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 7: Let's hear a snippet from our new podcast series, The

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Speaker 7: Dynasty doc Recap Podcast, dropping new episodes every Friday.

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Speaker 14: The ten part document theory event The Dynasty New England

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Speaker 14: Patriots is streaming now exclusively on Apple tv Plus. The

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Speaker 14: first two episodes dropped on Friday, Episodes one and two,

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Speaker 14: and so we're here to recap that the schedule of

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Speaker 14: this podcast will be as such, we will drop a

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Speaker 14: five weeks. So let's get to it. Episodes one and two.

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Speaker 14: I'm gonna start with you, Fred, what were you most

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Speaker 14: impressed with in episode one?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, first of all, the opening of the episode.

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Speaker 4: It's sort of like if you're at a musical and

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Speaker 4: there's an orchestra pit. The first thing they play is

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Speaker 4: the overture, and if you listen closely and remember what

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Speaker 4: you heard, you're gonna hear little pieces of everything that

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Speaker 4: you hear after that in that overture, and I think

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Speaker 4: that's what they were giving us with that opening, is

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Speaker 4: you saw all the little pieces of the stories of

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Speaker 4: the dynasty in that opening.

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Speaker 1: And I think they did a great job.

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Speaker 4: Like I had to watch it a couple times, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: you know, they're gonna talk about that, They're gonna talk

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Speaker 4: about that, And I think that that opening in caps,

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Speaker 4: you know, is gonna you know, foreshat, I know everything

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Speaker 4: that we're going to see going forward.

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Speaker 1: It was a great hook.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, I totally agree.

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Speaker 15: I thought it really got you in it, and you know,

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Speaker 15: for for us that you know, we've we've all been

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Speaker 15: around through a lot of these, you know, for the

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Speaker 15: whole entirety of the dynasty, and it brought you right back,

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Speaker 15: you know, and you said, Okay, let's get my popcorn,

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Speaker 15: let's sit down, let's get ready. I want to relive this.

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Speaker 15: And I thought it did a great job. The pictures

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Speaker 15: did a great job too. I Mean, there was some

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Speaker 15: great sound bites that they had mixed in the imidola.

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Speaker 15: One I thought was great foreshadowing for something that's coming

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Speaker 15: down when you know, the one that's got a lot

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Speaker 15: of play leaning into the documentary, you know about playing

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Speaker 15: for Bill, but I mean working for Bill and playing

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Speaker 15: for Tom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: I just thought it did a great job of setting

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Speaker 15: the scene.

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Speaker 1: It really did. I mean, That's that's the crazy thing,

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Speaker 1: is you realize. I mean when in hindsight you forget

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Speaker 1: how long this run was and how many huge storylines

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Speaker 1: there were for twenty years, you know, in and out,

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Speaker 1: And I thought that that part has set a great

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Speaker 1: tone for me. I just I loved a lot of

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Speaker 1: the new stuff, the behind the scenes stuff. You guys

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Speaker 1: will make fun of me, but this stuck out to me.

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Speaker 1: This practice footage of Brady wearing a helmet I've never

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Speaker 1: seen him wear before. And I'm a nerd about that, loser,

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Speaker 1: That's how I am. People. You know, he had to

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Speaker 1: have a string in his practice, but he had the

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Speaker 1: Peyton Malling helmet on, and I'm like, what is going on?

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Speaker 1: I've never seen this before in my life. But those

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Speaker 1: are you know, the things that that are just so cool.

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Speaker 1: And you know, just some of the footage where it's

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Speaker 1: just simple b roll and it's these guys hanging out

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, future Hall of Famers. In the

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Speaker 1: midst of this run, starting to put things together. I

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Speaker 1: just you know that that Wow.

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Speaker 4: We're sitting here with our senior executive producer, Matt Smith.

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Speaker 4: Kudos to him because one of the things I think

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Speaker 4: this documentary is a testament to film everything, even if

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Speaker 4: you're not going to use.

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Speaker 1: It right away or you may never use it.

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Speaker 4: Film everything. Because there's stuff in this documentary that I've

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Speaker 4: never seen before.

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Speaker 1: And thank god we filmed.

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Speaker 5: It so right.

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Speaker 15: And for Fred and I to say, it's stuff that

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Speaker 15: we've never seen before. We were working here through the

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Speaker 15: entirety of this and it was stuff that we've never

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Speaker 15: seen before.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Now, Matt probably you know, saw more. You know, he

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Speaker 15: was part of you know, the cruising and whatnot. But

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Speaker 15: to see pictures of practice at like you know, the

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Speaker 15: old stadium at rent them stays like like I've you know,

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Speaker 15: we used to get like five minute windows, Mike, just

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Speaker 15: like we do now.

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Speaker 1: Half the time we didn't go because it.

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Speaker 15: Was such a pain to get there, you know, like

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Speaker 15: just let me know who died, As Eddie Duckworth used

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Speaker 15: to say, you know, I don't need to know what's

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Speaker 15: going on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't.

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Speaker 4: But behind the scenes and the team meetings just unbelievable stuff.

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Speaker 14: No, one of the things that I was a big

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Speaker 14: fan of. And maybe that's to Fred's point, maybe I'm

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Speaker 14: prejudiced because I've seen a lot of the footage. I

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Speaker 14: just thought the interviews, by and large most of them

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Speaker 14: were tremendously insightful, and I have some favorites, quite honestly, Paul,

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Speaker 14: you and I did a podcast with Scott Pioli within

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Speaker 14: the last four or five months.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Scott comes off.

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Speaker 14: Really really well, and I think keeps the thread.

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Speaker 5: It's a good storytelling.

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Speaker 1: He's a really good.

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Speaker 4: Story He was seasoned back then because he comes from

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Speaker 4: a pr background before he came to the Patriots. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he he knows how to speak. He's very articulate, not

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Speaker 4: a lot of ums and your nose and all that.

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Speaker 4: And like you said, Paul, he tells a good story, right.

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Speaker 15: And it's one thing to have great information and great anecdotes,

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Speaker 15: but to deliver them in a way like the narcotic

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Speaker 15: line to me, is just fantastic.

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Speaker 14: That's and the perspective that I think he brings to

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Speaker 14: that he's away from it now, so maybe he can

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Speaker 14: see things a little bit differently than when he was

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Speaker 14: right in the trenches, and I think he realizes, and

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Speaker 14: he said this to us at one point time, but

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Speaker 14: I think he realizes.

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Speaker 1: She said, wonder if we handled that the right way?

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Speaker 1: Did we do what we really needed to do?

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Speaker 14: But they were just so consumed by winning, and the

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Speaker 14: winning became a narcotic As Paul said, that was really powerful.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, we're assuming everybody who's watching this

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Speaker 4: has watched the first two episodes, So if you haven't

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Speaker 4: turn it off, go to Apple TV Plus and watch them,

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01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 4: because we're gonna give you spoilers.

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Speaker 5: Yes, no question about.

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Speaker 14: We are going to ruin everything right because we don't

1453
01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 14: know how this has ended right. And the other interviews

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Speaker 14: that I just wanted to that really were tremendous to me,

1455
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 14: and they were writing character were Tyla and Laurie Maloy,

1456
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 14: very good friends, tremendous players during this team, but their

1457
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Speaker 14: color and their you know, just the way they spoke,

1458
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 14: the looseness that they spoke, and the way that they

1459
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Speaker 14: described things. I thought Patriot fans will really enjoy hearing them,

1460
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Speaker 14: how they talked and how they described what was going on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were the gatekeepers of the old Patriots. I mean,

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Speaker 1: those were the guys from the nineties that were the

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Speaker 1: holdovers that you know, were the leaders of that team.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, just their perspective on Brady

1465
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Speaker 1: coming in. I mean, my favorite part of you know,

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Speaker 1: Brady coming in and I'm not giving this thing back,

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Speaker 1: like you know, you're a rookie, you can to give

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Speaker 1: them back, right, That was I mean, those great lines,

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Speaker 1: and I mean those guys just they have so much personality.

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Speaker 1: But you know, just quickly to go back to Puli,

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Speaker 1: I just I love what you said, Matt about his

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Speaker 1: perspective and it you know, I don't want to it

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01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he you know, is completely like reformed

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Speaker 1: or anything, but it just it seems like somebody who

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Speaker 1: was in the weed as close as you could get

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01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: to it and has now gotten out, has now gotten

1477
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Speaker 1: some perspective of how it all went, and maybe isn't

1478
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Speaker 1: entirely proud of how every little bit of it went.

1479
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: And I think that kind of comes through, whereas some

1480
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: of the other voices you get they're still kind of

1481
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: stuck in that or you know, they never got over it.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: I think he's just such a unique point of view

1484
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: in this whole documentary and one of.

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Speaker 14: His closest confidence and the person who brought him into

1486
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Speaker 14: the organization is Bill Belichick, and it's and Bill Belichick

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Speaker 14: is the same thing. He's true to character. He's very

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01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 14: buttoned up. His demeanor is very obvious when he's in there,

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Speaker 14: and he's the Bill Belichick that I think everybody would expect.

1490
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 14: Whereas Scott he's he's opening himself up. He's letting the

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Speaker 14: viewer and the fiancy a different side of him that

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Speaker 14: I don't think fian saw when he was here working

1493
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Speaker 14: with the organization.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 15: Yeah, And it was eye opening when when Matt and

1496
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Speaker 15: I had him on that Pats from the Past podcast

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Speaker 15: and a lot of the stuff he echoes, you know,

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Speaker 15: in this thing. And I do think that Mike has

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Speaker 15: a good perspective on that. It's like he's the one

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Speaker 15: guy that's like, we didn't have to do it that way.

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01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 15: He expressed that regret with Matt and I when we

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Speaker 15: did it. He he comes across, you know, really likable,

1503
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 15: but you know, just sort of with great perspective, you know.

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01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 15: And some of the stuff, the interaction with he and

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Speaker 15: Ernie Adams, to me, some of that stuff is good too.

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Speaker 4: It's such great stuff. You know, you brought up Bill,

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01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 4: and I think Bill in these first two episodes comes

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Speaker 4: off smelling like a rose in my opinion, because you know,

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Speaker 4: they a lot of it is focused on the Brady

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Speaker 4: bled Cell decision and how gutsy it was to make

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01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 4: that call because Bledsoell was so close to the owner.

1512
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 4: You know, at one part they talked about the owner

1513
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 4: actually talking to Bill about, hey, you know, why aren't you?

1514
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 4: You know, so there was a lot of pressure on

1515
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 4: Bill to make this thing. What I think hurt Bill

1516
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 4: is himself. Like we're talking about all these great interviews,

1517
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 4: you know, Ty law and Lawyer Maloy. Lawyer Maloy has

1518
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 4: a lot of you know, acts to grind with this

1519
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 4: team with question you know.

1520
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: Scott Pioli and Jack.

1521
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 4: Everybody came off great except Bill. He was so standoffish

1522
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 4: in the in his body language and you know, yes

1523
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 4: it's the same Bill, but you had a chance to

1524
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 4: kind of open up a little bit more and show

1525
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 4: us a little bit.

1526
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 6: And you didn't take that chance.

1527
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 4: Although I think the actions speak louder than words. Like

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01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 4: I said, he came off really looking good in these

1529
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 4: first arts.

1530
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: As he should. As he should, it was, it was

1531
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: press conference bill that was what this was who we

1532
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: see in press conferences, that's guarded. You know, even from

1533
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: the initial kind of right crack, you know, it felt

1534
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: like he was getting ready to go to war a

1535
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: little bit. It makes me wonder what it's going to

1536
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: be like when we get into some of the more

1537
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: controversial stuff down the road is built because I think

1538
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: everybody wants to watch this and see the bill from

1539
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: the Scarneckia induction, the storyteller, the one who's going to

1540
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: tell you a little and we didn't really get any

1541
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: of that, at least in the first two episodes.

1542
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 15: You want to let me know, let you guys know

1543
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 15: one thing totally unrelated really to the dynasty itself. But

1544
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 15: David NuGen is a guy who not a lot of

1545
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 15: people listening right now probably even know who he is.

1546
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 15: Right He was a fellow member of the two thousand

1547
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 15: draft class, and he and Brady were roommates, and you

1548
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 15: know they both played in the Big ten. Nujin was

1549
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 15: a defensive lineman out of Purdue. He has some great

1550
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 15: home footage that he should again back to.

1551
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: People stuff because they watch well, stuff that.

1552
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 15: You've never seen that's you know that until the point.

1553
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 15: But it's it's stuff that you've never seen before, and

1554
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 15: it just gives you sort of a glimpse of just

1555
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 15: how psychotic Brady is. When it came to everything competition wise.

1556
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 10: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, no

1557
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 10: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1558
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 10: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx Where

1559
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 10: now meant's next for residential delivery only?

1560
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 5: And now great moments in.

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01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:55,919
Speaker 1: History?

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01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 6: Maybe I'm over that's going around too.

1563
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: That's going around too. He postedfuge. He posted a picture

1564
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: and it was him like smiling and if you'll look close,

1565
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: he was actual. Letts state, who was this Brady Brady?

1566
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: The picture he posted with him at from the Tampa game.

1567
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 9: I didn't.

1568
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 5: I didn't look at the thing.

1569
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 6: I know you didn't.

1570
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 5: I was asking, I was on part of this thing.

1571
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: Printed more trees than anybody I've ever seen. Will you

1572
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: file that right? We're just talking about how you know,

1573
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: when when we're doing the show, we should reference on

1574
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: your phone.

1575
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 4: Just look on the sound radio the animal Eric think

1576
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 4: about that. My second question is whether you guys think.

1577
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: That's another great moment from.

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Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered is brought to you by the Massachusetts Office

1579
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1580
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1584
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Speaker 1: folks from our I guess we took a little break

1585
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: there to honor Paul's launch. None of us actually, actually

1586
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: you guys lunch lunch, someone don't but we didn't order

1587
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: anything from Pizza Time today, so sorry Pizza Time. Probably.

1588
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 5: I went to Jersey Mics waiting for that. Where a

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01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 5: place called Jersey Mikes.

1590
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 6: I like it.

1591
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 5: It's it's my favorite, like little local spot.

1592
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 1: They cut the met they cut that meat.

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01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 6: A small family owned business.

1594
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's you know, mom and pop shop.

1595
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: Well, we should say to combine next week. Combine next

1596
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: week you have to go to Jimmy John Jimmy John's.

1597
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: I don't think about football Jimmy John j Jones.

1598
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 9: Disgusting.

1599
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 5: Oh, Tamara that that's a bad take. But she comes

1600
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 5: up to me this morning and she's like, are you

1601
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 5: excited to go to Indian, and I was like, I'm

1602
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 5: excited to go to Saint Elmos. I'm excited to eat

1603
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 5: every single that's ever been put in front of me.

1604
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah it's shrimp.

1605
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 9: I love shrimp.

1606
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like horse.

1607
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 9: Radish, Yes, all right, like cotaio sauce different.

1608
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 1: But it tastes like like the shrimp is fine. It's

1609
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: very big, but it's just a ton of sauce. To

1610
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: bring some sauce back to it's it's so good.

1611
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 5: I think the whole Almos experience is honestly.

1612
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: Lives up to the especially when you get a private room.

1613
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: You know, well that outstairs private room.

1614
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 5: Helped a little bit that that was.

1615
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 1: Where we are. They're like, oh, it's the Patriots content team.

1616
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 5: Go ahead, guys upstairs.

1617
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 1: Paul probably would get mad at me for that appropriating. Yeah,

1618
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: so I I I want to talk a little free

1619
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: agency here, and I'm sorry everybody that wants to do

1620
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: nothing but debate the third overall pick. And you know,

1621
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: talk about offense. And certainly the offense is huge priority

1622
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 1: for the Patriots and they need to really rebuild from scratch.

1623
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 1: But and while they do have some good pieces on defense,

1624
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 1: I think when you're just looking at free agency. And

1625
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: I never wrote a little bit about this in the

1626
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: mail bag, and I definitely agree with him, is that

1627
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots canna make some splashy moves on defense and

1628
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: free agency, and they have the money to do it.

1629
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: And then I, you know, again, I think I would

1630
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: prioritize certainly internal players. Christian Barmore topped the list for me.

1631
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: I saw today, I forget who one of the you know,

1632
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: who's the best fit for all the free agents. Somebody

1633
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: ran down one of the one of the one of

1634
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: the national guys on NFL dot com. But yeah, Christian

1635
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,440
Speaker 1: Wilkins from the Dolphins going to the Patriots.

1636
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 9: Oh, I love him.

1637
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 3: Such as boys.

1638
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: A Massachusetts boy as well. They had you know, they

1639
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: had Dougger and when you both leaving, uh, and then

1640
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: they had they had one other guy going to the

1641
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: Dougger is uh just what he's putting together.

1642
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 8: But you know, if you have insider info or like,

1643
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:29,879
Speaker 8: over your dead body, he's leaving.

1644
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 5: I would say, in the next twenty four to forty

1645
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,719
Speaker 5: eight hours, we'll find out that Carle Douger is not.

1646
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 6: He's trying to leave, just grabbing.

1647
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that would be great news too. So

1648
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, I just I think we know the Patriots

1649
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: got in this point not draft, developed, retain. They can't develop,

1650
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: they can't retain. They drafted guys that haven't worked out,

1651
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: and so you know, I'd be all for it, but

1652
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 1: I just wanted to go go through some of these

1653
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,560
Speaker 1: defenders names on the wide receiver list, and you know,

1654
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: we've talked plenty of about you know, T Higgins wide

1655
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: receivers on the offer start clamber before you start, Okay.

1656
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 9: The disclaimer is it cannot be an off brand free agent.

1657
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: No.

1658
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 9: And I've said this, I think the past seven months.

1659
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: And that's the whole point.

1660
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 9: No, I do not want any Johnny Smith.

1661
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: No, I don't know that. Yeah, that's the whole point

1662
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: on brand, and we could kind of, you know, we

1663
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: go off brand. I just remembered who the other the

1664
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: other player was, Jonah Williams, who was kind of a

1665
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 1: little bit of an off brand tackle.

1666
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 5: You know, like that was my whole, my whole thing,

1667
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 5: you know, I wrote this in the mail bag was

1668
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 5: exactly what Tamara just said. Is. You know, when they

1669
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 5: spent in twenty twenty one on the offensive players, they

1670
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 5: basically set themselves up with a two year core because

1671
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 5: of how much they paid those guys. So it was

1672
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 5: Jacoby Myers, Kendrick Bourne, Nelson, Agalore Hunter, Henry Johnny Smith

1673
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 5: and that those were all top of the market guys

1674
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 5: in free agency that they paid top of the market

1675
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 5: and it wasn't good enough. Like that's that's the best

1676
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 5: that you possibly can get in this free agent class.

1677
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 5: I would just so much rather than chase the talent,

1678
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 5: like where is the strength of the class and spend

1679
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 5: your money there? And you're just gonna about to rattle

1680
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 5: off like this edge defensive line free agency group is

1681
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 5: absolutely stacked, and some of these guys are gonna make

1682
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 5: it to free agency because of various reasons, they're not

1683
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 5: gonna be tagged. So why pay you know, another Kendrick Bourne,

1684
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 5: Nelson Aglore level receiver when you can pay Christian Wilkins

1685
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 5: like that? That's I think where I'm at, And you

1686
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,799
Speaker 5: strengthen a strength and then once we get to April,

1687
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 5: then we can just draft seven offensive defense.

1688
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,799
Speaker 1: I mean, let me let me run down these edge defenders.

1689
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just this is on PFF ranking them.

1690
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 16: Uh.

1691
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen from Jacksonville, Brian Burns from Carolina, Danielle Hunter

1692
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: from the Vikings, Chase Young, Bryce Huff from the Jets,

1693
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,799
Speaker 1: Jonathan Greener in Houston, Texans, Darius Smith, Cleveland Browns, Leonard Floyd,

1694
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: the Bill's Jadavian Clowney, and then Josh Ouch. So you know,

1695
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: even if you're just looking at those names, I mean,

1696
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: I know some you know, could could stay. Some are

1697
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: not great fits, but there's definitely some promise there. And

1698
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 1: when you look at Matthew Judon being in his early thirties,

1699
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: you look at u j and Jennings being free agents,

1700
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: there's no real answer on the edge right now. It

1701
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 1: seems to me that if you're gonna spend a bunch

1702
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: of money on an external guy, I'd rather take a swing,

1703
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: like you said, Evan on a star of one of those.

1704
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the interior guys. I mean, Chris Jones.

1705
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: We'll see if Kansas City lets him get away. Christian

1706
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: Wilkins doesn't stop talking. He's he's a yeah, you kind

1707
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 1: of love him. If he's on your team, you'd like him.

1708
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: But you know, to Avan's point, to connect it to

1709
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: Lawrence guy, you know that kind of big interior. You

1710
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 1: know there's probably a need, and he's young too. It's

1711
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 1: it's he's got I think Justin Madebique. I mean, he's

1712
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: an outstanding player. Another one he think Baltimore might try

1713
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: to retain him. DJ Reader another big space eater. T

1714
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, some older guys, Fletcher Cox, Michael Pierce. But again,

1715
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: all these guys they kind of fit and they're kind

1716
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 1: of in areas of need. I don't think corner is

1717
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: a huge need. I don't think, you know, if they're

1718
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: going to resign doug Ars, safety not a huge need.

1719
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: But I think taking care of the edge is an

1720
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: upfront They have a real opportunity here in free agency.

1721
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 5: I are just much rather than pay guys that are

1722
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 5: actually going to be impact players than just pay guys

1723
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 5: because they have wide receiver next to their name. And

1724
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 5: when you look at this class of receivers, T Higgins

1725
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 5: is going to get the tag most likely. It sounds

1726
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 5: like Calvin Ridley is probably going to be the best

1727
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 5: guy that becomes available who I really like. But at

1728
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 5: the same time, like, is that the guy that you're

1729
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 5: investing to be your number one wide receiver? And I

1730
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 5: just I look at it and I say, go where

1731
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,799
Speaker 5: the talent takes you if that means that it's spending

1732
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 5: on defense instead of offense, and you know your splashes

1733
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 5: are you know, Brian Burns and Christian Wilkins instead of

1734
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 5: you know, a receiver talent or a quarterback or tackle

1735
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 5: now Jonah Williams, like those guys Jonah Williams, Makai Becton

1736
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 5: at tackle, their dart throws on injury prone guys like

1737
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 5: you know that are just not really high end talented

1738
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,600
Speaker 5: type of players. So I would much rather than do that.

1739
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 5: And that's what that's why you have the draft and

1740
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 5: you have free agency, and if you can get your

1741
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 5: hands on at T. Higgins, if Justin Jefferson and follows

1742
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 5: the vikings and decides that he wants out of Minnesota, sure,

1743
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 5: I'm obviously all for trying to invest in those types

1744
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,839
Speaker 5: of players if that type of talent is available. But

1745
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 5: the worst thing that you can do is do what

1746
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 5: you did in twenty twenty one and just have a

1747
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,799
Speaker 5: bunch of complimentary guys and no real stars.

1748
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: Yep.

1749
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 5: On the OFFENSEI side of the ball.

1750
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: I take it on Kenny Moore too, who was here

1751
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: and you know, just a slot guy. But I think

1752
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: that you know, uncertain on Marcus Jones and you know

1753
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with Miles Brian. I feel like, you know,

1754
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: they could just use an inside guy. I've always liked

1755
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: him a little bit older. But again, the one thing

1756
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 1: I do say, though, Evan I liked about what they

1757
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: did in twenty twenty one was that all their signings

1758
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: were guys who are like twenty six, like coming right

1759
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: off their first contract. I love that. I love that.

1760
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 1: I think that's what they have to do continue to do.

1761
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,560
Speaker 1: You know when you see these like edge rushers, you know,

1762
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: Jadavian Clowney that you know, mid thirty, like it's it's

1763
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: no point, there's no point. You got to be a

1764
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: little bit patient.

1765
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 5: But I just well, that's like like a guy like

1766
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 5: Mike Evans, who is a Hall of Fame player, he's

1767
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 5: going to be a Hall of Famer, but he's going

1768
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 5: to be thirty one, and does he really want to

1769
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 5: leave Tampa? Probably not. And you look at you know

1770
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 5: Ridley I just mentioned he's he's twenty nine going on thirty.

1771
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 5: So they're not really in that that bracket of what

1772
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 5: you're talking about. You know, those guys are more you know,

1773
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 5: Higgins Pittman like, but are those guys going to be available?

1774
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 5: I don't, I don't know.

1775
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 9: You know, I would love T Higgins.

1776
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he hasn't shut up about T Higgins since since

1777
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 1: the draft.

1778
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 5: Like the Bengals, GM said last year at the combine,

1779
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 5: get your own receiver. So well, yeah, that's literally what

1780
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 5: he said to me.

1781
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 9: I like that energy though.

1782
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 2: I like that.

1783
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 6: Don't They have an issue though, because they have to

1784
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 6: pay Jamark Chase too.

1785
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 5: Well, they have an issue in terms of, like you know,

1786
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 5: as a team in Cincinnati, are they going to have

1787
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 5: the cash to spend on all of these guys. But

1788
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, if they wanted to

1789
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 5: keep all of them, they could keep all of them,

1790
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 5: but you gotta pay for it.

1791
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: So all right, we got some emails coming in, and

1792
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 1: please give us a ring jingle at eighty five to five,

1793
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: Pats five hundred, shoot us an email at Patriots sorry,

1794
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: Web Radio, Patriots dot com. Got a bunch of emails here.

1795
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: We kind of maybe fire through some of them. Mentioned

1796
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 1: today is the franchise tag deadline. Rusty and Arlen just

1797
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 1: writing in about realistic options. I believe you've all mentioned

1798
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: various times the team and when you agree he is

1799
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 1: in a tackle hopefully we also agree he has been

1800
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: at least a middle of the PAC tackle when everyone

1801
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: needs one. I like him way better than whoever. Their

1802
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: other options will most likely be Henry another hend or

1803
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: Henry another option there, he says, not exciting, but hey,

1804
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: that's how it goes sometimes. Let me know what you think,

1805
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: and of course, Kyle Duggar, I don't know what do

1806
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: you think? Guys, any any thoughts? I mean, I just

1807
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: I've said it before. There's just not a lot of

1808
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: options at tight end. There's not a stack draft class

1809
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 1: like there was last year. I mean, Hunter Henry and

1810
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: the guy from Dalton Schultz, those are probably the top

1811
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 1: two that kind of fit that could step in and play.

1812
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: They just don't have a lot of options. That's why

1813
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 1: I see Hunter Henry's kind of a priority. Or if

1814
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: they want to maybe.

1815
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 5: Tax over so I wouldn't. Hunter Henry's tag is gonna

1816
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 5: cost them over eighteen million dollars because of his salary

1817
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 5: last year, So he doesn't make the tag that you

1818
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 5: see online when you google what's the tight end dag

1819
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 5: that he has an escalator more because of what he

1820
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 5: made last year. So they're not going to pay Hunter

1821
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 5: Henry eighteen million dollars next year. But I actually look

1822
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 5: at some of these free agent options, and you know,

1823
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 5: Daland Schultz is probably the one like starting caliber tight

1824
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 5: end other than Henry that's in free agency. But I

1825
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 5: look at a guy like Gerald Everett, Noah Fan, I

1826
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 5: think those players. If you took a Gerald Everett and

1827
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 5: then drafted somebody in the middle rounds, at least you'd

1828
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,879
Speaker 5: have someone in Everett that could hold down the position

1829
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 5: for the twenty twenty four season. So I'd probably rather

1830
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 5: that be Henry. But I would say that Everett is

1831
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 5: a little bit more explosive, a little bit better with

1832
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 5: the ball in his hands, so that that might be

1833
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 5: a fit.

1834
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: I got real quick just share this. Someone was at

1835
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 1: the Frankfurt game and was taking some pictures of people

1836
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: walking in and they just so happened to get Evan Lazar.

1837
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 5: That emotion is I don't.

1838
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 17: Like that, I'm excited.

1839
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 5: Can you pay me for the photo?

1840
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 9: All week in Frankfurt, this man was like, I need

1841
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 9: to be there early because some fans want to meet me.

1842
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 3: Literally energy.

1843
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 9: He wanted to get everything early to me.

1844
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 5: You don't have to out me all the time. The

1845
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 5: things that I say the record.

1846
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 6: The real side stories. Evan and I walking through all

1847
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 6: of Frankfurt just to find some Frankfurt some burs. It

1848
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 6: took way too long, left us.

1849
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that first day we got one, but they

1850
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: kind of come on like a roll, like we had

1851
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: them right. We were walking around and h random hole

1852
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: in the wall. The bread was so good there, the bread,

1853
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: Like I still am kicking myself for not just like

1854
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: stalking up because even the airport breadth is good, Like

1855
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: you could have just gone, but you already flew back,

1856
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:53,560
Speaker 1: like go into the airport and be like, give me

1857
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 1: just a bunch of danishes and brought him home. But

1858
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: we saw Emma who used to work in our department,

1859
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: and she's been I guess in your you know a

1860
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 1: little bit, but she just said all her like eating

1861
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: and stomach is she's so cleared up.

1862
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 8: It's amazing, like what you can eat when your food

1863
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 8: systems aren't poisoning you.

1864
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 6: I had McDonald's and Germany twice.

1865
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 3: Did we ever tell this story?

1866
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1867
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 8: We wanted to go to McDonald's just because every country

1868
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 8: has different menu items and it's kind of cool. It's

1869
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 8: like anthropology really the different McDonald's.

1870
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 3: So whatever we go in.

1871
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 5: I don't get that.

1872
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 9: I don't want to hear any shaming because this man

1873
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 9: would only drink Starbucks coffee. He wouldn't try anything local,

1874
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:39,879
Speaker 9: so you can't.

1875
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 3: Talk right exactly and.

1876
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 8: That anyways, So we're just excited to try this McDonald's

1877
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 8: and we had a funny experience inside.

1878
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 3: It's like touch screen, it's all modern. So we get out.

1879
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,879
Speaker 3: Who do we see Jason mccordy.

1880
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 5: Wow.

1881
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 8: No, no, I say this because I'm sure a lot

1882
01:22:59,960 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 8: of fans that follow us have seen the video I posted.

1883
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 8: But Jason comes up to us and it was just

1884
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 8: shaming us.

1885
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 6: Literally, the look on his face and cheeseburger.

1886
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 9: He's like, you go all the way to Germany because.

1887
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 8: You didn't get this, And we're like, okay, this isn't

1888
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 8: a lot of people thought we only ate McDonald's when

1889
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 8: you were in Germany, and it was like, no, that

1890
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 8: was just one meal of seven.

1891
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 9: One meal Deuce had five guys.

1892
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 5: You said that island.

1893
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 8: No, I didn't eat McDonald's multiple times on the trap.

1894
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 9: No.

1895
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: You know. The thing that was kind of most jarring

1896
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: me though Germany, and I didn't realize that would miss

1897
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: it as much was ice like ice water.

1898
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 6: I tried to get iced coffee.

1899
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 5: That's why I went to Starbucks, because I asked for

1900
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 5: ice coffee at one of the local places and they

1901
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 5: looked at me like I had ten heads.

1902
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 8: Evanence Mari went into the Starbucks, and Matissa and I

1903
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 8: went into right next door, a little like more authentic

1904
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 8: coffee shop, and we asked for ice coffees, and the

1905
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 8: lady looked at us and she said iced.

1906
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:04,719
Speaker 3: It's called out like, Yeah, that is hot.

1907
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:09,919
Speaker 1: Mom is hot. We're from Boston, We're silly. Email from Claire, Hello, everyone,

1908
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 1: nice job without the grown ups. Guys. I'm glad Claire

1909
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 1: you don't think I'm a grown up. I appreciate that

1910
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: you're not fifty years old like I'm still at that.

1911
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: With the release of Guy and now the retirement to

1912
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 1: the beloved Slater, do you share in my concern that

1913
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots are too new when it comes to coaching

1914
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: and personnel to let those sorts of players go. I

1915
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 1: guess Slater was his decision, but Guy felt like he

1916
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: could be a necessary retain just to maintain some solid

1917
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: locker room presence thoughts.

1918
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 5: I hear her point, but I think that one of

1919
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 5: the things that is, you know, we hear a lot

1920
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 5: from people in the organization now is that they have

1921
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 5: to start over, Like there has to be a point

1922
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 5: in time where they hit the reset button. And that

1923
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 5: might not mean that it's a very successful twenty twenty

1924
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 5: four like in terms of wins, but at some point

1925
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 5: in time you have to move on from some of

1926
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 5: these guys and start bringing in some younger.

1927
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 8: It's also I think people are looking over the fact that, yes,

1928
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 8: we lost two great leaders and I'll even throw Adrian

1929
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 8: Phillips in that. I think he was a really solid

1930
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 8: veteran for guys to look up to you, But like

1931
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 8: Ditrich Wise and John Jones are still in there and

1932
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 8: they're great guys, great role models, great guys to look

1933
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 8: up to.

1934
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: So you got to reset it. And I just I

1935
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 1: think we kind of I think wondered about this when

1936
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,879
Speaker 1: it was going bad. Is does that does the message

1937
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: from the guys who were part of the dynasty still

1938
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: resonate with these young kids when you have you know,

1939
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: you get to a team and there's five or six

1940
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: guys that were like, hey man, when we won the jam,

1941
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: this is how it was, and like at a certain

1942
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 1: point you're like, well, we're so far removed from that,

1943
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: we need to find our own way. So I think

1944
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna have.

1945
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 3: They have to have Mayo and Dante high Tower to there.

1946
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,600
Speaker 5: You go, there you go. They have to have some

1947
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 5: of these, you know, they have to have some of

1948
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 5: these younger players start to set up step up into

1949
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 5: leadership roles. And if you're going to draft a quarterback

1950
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 5: at number three, like he's automatically going to be in

1951
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 5: a leader ship position just because of the position and

1952
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 5: where he was drafted. So some of these guys, you know,

1953
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 5: Christian Gonzales very quiet kids, so I don't expect him

1954
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 5: to be oh yeah and at the end of every

1955
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 5: single game, but his presence and you know, just his

1956
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 5: you know, leading by example like that type of stuff

1957
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 5: has got to start to matter to some of these

1958
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 5: Sometimes you just look at him.

1959
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: Wow, he's like an elite athlete, right, Like, moves it

1960
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: a different I'm gonna I'm gonna play better because of him.

1961
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the hope.

1962
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,919
Speaker 1: That's kind of interesting one here from Reno and Tennessee.

1963
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: I know there have been plenty of bust wide receivers,

1964
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 1: but has there been a bust from the expected generation

1965
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: generational talent like Marvin Harrison Junior. I know there's plenty

1966
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: of qbs that busted that caliber, but I can't think

1967
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: of a wide receiver this sought out to flame out.

1968
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 1: Can you think of any.

1969
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,959
Speaker 5: Oh well, yes, but like maybe because of different reasons,

1970
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 5: like you know, off field.

1971
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:49,759
Speaker 1: Type of stuff.

1972
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like point back in the day, this happened a

1973
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 5: lot more, you know, like the the Roy Williams is

1974
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 5: of the world. You know, even like certain guys that

1975
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 5: were considered generational that were okay NFL players but didn't

1976
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 5: live up to the hype of being like, you know,

1977
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 5: a Hall of Fame caliber guy. But recently, I would

1978
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 5: say that a lot of this the talent has definitely

1979
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 5: held out strong for for the most part. But uh,

1980
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 5: you know there's certain guys and you know that were

1981
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 5: top of the first round, really highly touted players, like

1982
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 5: even like somebody like Jerry Judy, like not a generational

1983
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 5: talent coming out, but like, was Jerry Judy a first

1984
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 5: round level player in his career so far? Like maybe

1985
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 5: you have some of those types of guys.

1986
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 1: But it's funny you say him because I remember at

1987
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: the Comma and being like what I wouldn't give to

1988
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 1: get Jerry g Yeah.

1989
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean like Henry Ruggs is obviously the

1990
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 5: biggest one out of the recent care but that's that's

1991
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 5: a totally different circumstance.

1992
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1993
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: I don't want to read this one because Kyle writes

1994
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: in with a bunch of Patriots trivia. But Kyle, unfortunately,

1995
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't think we've got the squad to uh to

1996
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: answer that.

1997
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 8: This is.

1998
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:00,560
Speaker 9: Wait, can we go back to free agency? Because I

1999
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 9: don't know if we've actually, like go back picked anybody

2000
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 9: off that edge list.

2001
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 6: Josh Allen, you can.

2002
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 9: I want Chase Young.

2003
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 6: Chase he played for one quarter in the Super Bowl.

2004
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 6: He had that one sack and then you didn't see

2005
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 6: him again in the rest of the game, and you're

2006
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 6: gonna pay him all that money?

2007
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 5: Chase?

2008
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 9: You no, you don't like him. Who do you like

2009
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 9: off that list?

2010
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:24,799
Speaker 5: I would say out of this list, probably Brian Burns

2011
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 5: is the best player on that group. Bryce Huff from

2012
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 5: the Jets is also another player that we didn't mention,

2013
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 5: who's kind of like a soup up, like.

2014
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 9: You like getting one of these and not resigning.

2015
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 5: I think that if you can get a more complete player.

2016
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 5: And I also, I have no inside information on this,

2017
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 5: but I think that there's a chance that Matthew Judon's

2018
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 5: not on this team, and if that's the case, then

2019
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 5: you know you need to fill that that void. But

2020
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 5: if you can get a Day two pick for Matthew Judon,

2021
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 5: you have to make that trade if you're the Patriots.

2022
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 5: So I look at that as that's a possible avenue

2023
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 5: that they might go to get. You know, do we

2024
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 5: when we did the mock draft, Like, at least when

2025
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 5: I was doing it, I was like, would be really

2026
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 5: nice to have like one more pick somewhere here.

2027
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like, you know, and then the draft

2028
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 1: fund where you trade down right just a little bit

2029
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 1: and you pick up that. I mean, it's just it's

2030
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 1: amazing the difference one extra pick in the second round

2031
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 1: you can do no matter where it kind of falls.

2032
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,679
Speaker 9: He seems like he really wants to stay here though.

2033
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 5: I look, I'm not like trying to ship him out

2034
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 5: of town. I really want to.

2035
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 9: I mean I'm just telling you, yeah, him and Kendrick Bourne.

2036
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 5: Kenrick Bourne is in a different tax bracket. So if

2037
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 5: Kenrick's fine, but Matthew Junon is you know, he's a

2038
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 5: little bit older, he's expensive. Is he part of the

2039
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,600
Speaker 5: next good Patriots football team? And like, I think the

2040
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 5: one thing that looking back on it, and look, we

2041
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 5: don't know what Belichick was told about the trade deadline

2042
01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:59,759
Speaker 5: in this past year. He might have been told by ownership,

2043
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 5: don't anything because you're not gonna be here, right, But

2044
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 5: not trading josh u j at the trade deadline was

2045
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 5: a mistake. Like they they should have traded josh Uja

2046
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 5: and gotten whatever assets they could have gotten for him

2047
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 5: at the time, because now he's probably going to walk

2048
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 5: in free agency for nothing.

2049
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 1: A quick question here from Gene and Ottawa. How much

2050
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 1: of a role did the Patriots play in facil facilitating

2051
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: the production of the Dynasty doc? Did the organization have

2052
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 1: any editorial creative control over the final product? This is

2053
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: from Gene and Outawa. Gene probably be better to come

2054
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 1: from Fred, but I can relay the same message was

2055
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: no creative or editorial control. Did provide a lot of

2056
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 1: the footage though, or anything in the archives where we're

2057
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: all open to the documentary to go in and take.

2058
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: But but the Patriots organization did not have any editorial

2059
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: or creative control. But you used to take that from

2060
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 1: Fred because he's he's the one, he's the big boss man.

2061
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 9: You know.

2062
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 1: All right, let's jump back to the phone real quick.

2063
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 5: Nobody believes you do, believe me?

2064
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: Well everything you say these days you gotta be Hey, Todd,

2065
01:30:57,880 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 1: how are you?

2066
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 16: I'm gonna give a little a caller on collar crime

2067
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,640
Speaker 16: because the guy that called in earlier saying, well, you

2068
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 16: had eleven people on offense, and I don't want to

2069
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 16: over focus on quarterback. You know what, quarterbacks like a

2070
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 16: Formula one race. You know what, You better have a driver,

2071
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 16: your Pittoo's important. Everybody else is all important that the

2072
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,799
Speaker 16: organize or whatever. Without the driver, got nothing. Without the quarterback,

2073
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 16: you got nothing. The guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

2074
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:24,600
Speaker 16: Maybe hockey, you can know he got six guys on

2075
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 16: the ice, you know, any one of the guys can

2076
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 16: be a leader or got up. Yeah, sure great, but

2077
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 16: not in not in football, not on the old fence.

2078
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 16: You've got to have a leader. And that leader's got

2079
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 16: to be your quarterback because he's the one that's driving

2080
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 16: this team. And I think that guy is totally wrong.

2081
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 16: And I don't think if if they don't draft one

2082
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 16: or they don't find somebody in free agency to drive

2083
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 16: this car of ours. We're gonna have another crappy year

2084
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 16: and maybe we'll get a first round pick, but we

2085
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 16: need somebody. We need a quarterback. And that's the two

2086
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 16: guys we got on this team are not quarterbacks, and

2087
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,799
Speaker 16: we got to get rid of them, and we need somebody.

2088
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 16: And that's it. And I let the guy call back

2089
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 16: and yell. Let me for being any vulatory.

2090
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 5: I hear what Todd is saying completely, and I think

2091
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 5: you look at this this group of quarterbacks. Is another

2092
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 5: point I made in the mailbag. Is thirty six year

2093
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 5: old Kirk Cousins coming off an achilles tear at thirty

2094
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 5: five million dollars a year?

2095
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:17,719
Speaker 6: In answer is hell getting benched for two rookies.

2096
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,839
Speaker 5: Is trading a top one hundred pick for Justin Fields?

2097
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 5: The answer like, Baker Mayfield is not coming here, Like

2098
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 5: I understand people keep on floating that possibility. Uh, he's

2099
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 5: going to be in Tampa. Like he's not coming here,

2100
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 5: So what what? Who's playing quarterback for this team if

2101
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 5: you're not drafting one? Like it just that's the hardest

2102
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 5: part of going away from quarterback at the top of

2103
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 5: the draft is that there's no good options, Like you're

2104
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 5: not paying Kirk Cousins that kind of money justin fields

2105
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 5: is just as much of a of a chance as

2106
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 5: taking one of these qbs in the draft. Is So,

2107
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 5: where are you going to find that quarterback from? Because

2108
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 5: you're not rolling Mac Jones back out there next year.

2109
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 9: Absolutely?

2110
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 1: No, he's got a new uh necklace. By the way,

2111
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: let's head down to Matt in Virginia Beach might be

2112
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 1: Parlo Territory. Was there, Matt? You didn't see Paul down there?

2113
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 1: Digit he's just doing some school tours.

2114
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 13: No, no Paul down here. But I'll keep I'll keep

2115
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 13: my eyes field again.

2116
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: What do you got.

2117
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 13: It's good afternoon, everybody. Two quick questions for you, one

2118
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:20,719
Speaker 13: Patriots related, one not first question I had was the

2119
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:24,719
Speaker 13: themes with with the amount of depth that's at wide

2120
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 13: receiver and tackle looking at the first round of the draft,

2121
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 13: I feel like it could push some defensive players down

2122
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 13: or maybe even out of the first round. And is

2123
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 13: there a defensive player that you guys would consider at

2124
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 13: thirty four should they happen to be there. And the

2125
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,640
Speaker 13: second question is just wondered if anybody tuned into the

2126
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 13: Daytona five hundred yesterday, and so what do you think?

2127
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, thanks, Matt.

2128
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,799
Speaker 5: Appreciate my father. I'm sure he did, so maybe maybe

2129
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 5: he can tell.

2130
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 1: You that's two car references and two calls there.

2131
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 3: So I thought, you know, there's nothing like a NASCAR nap.

2132
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 1: My step dad is my stepdad's golf now.

2133
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 8: Those two like a Master's Sunday and Appea, no, my

2134
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 8: stepdad grew up very much in the NASCAR scene and

2135
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 8: his family's still down in North Carolina.

2136
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 3: They build chassis actually.

2137
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 8: But like so the chaces were like always on in

2138
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 8: my mom's house when he was home, and I just

2139
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 8: I just remember cracking up because he'd just sleeped through

2140
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 8: the whole race, wake up for the last twenty laps, just.

2141
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:18,639
Speaker 6: The most important part.

2142
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, but it's like kind of I say the same

2143
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,599
Speaker 8: thing about like Saturday morning soccer.

2144
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 3: I just like it on in the background sometimes, you gotta.

2145
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 5: My father's in the car business, so he is a

2146
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 5: huge NASCAR guy, and I grew up watching a lot

2147
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 5: of NASCAR, grew up going aloud into New Hampshire the

2148
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 5: track every single year we were there. So as a kid,

2149
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 5: I was, you know, I could you started talking about

2150
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 5: like mid two thousands NASCAR drivers. I can rattle off

2151
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 5: like like twenty of them, but not so much anymore.

2152
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:52,560
Speaker 5: But he did text me yesterday and to remind me

2153
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 5: that Daytona was was going on.

2154
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 1: Did you ever watch a cold trickle? Drive it all?

2155
01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 5: That's not a real person, but a trickle. See Days

2156
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 5: of Thunder, I know, I know, Days of Thunders. Yeah,

2157
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 5: they pull him over on the highway, right, I mean, you.

2158
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:09,560
Speaker 1: Know him and Rusty they got into a little bit. Yeah.

2159
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 5: I love Days of Thunder a good movie. I was

2160
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:13,679
Speaker 5: actually watching Tall Daked Nights together.

2161
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:17,919
Speaker 1: I know, I know the question about taking a defender

2162
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 1: at the top of the second probably maybe, Yeah, it

2163
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 1: makes you want to puke. I've mentioned Darius Robinson a

2164
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 1: couple of just because every time you do a mock

2165
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 1: draft he's kind of sitting there. He's a senior bol guy,

2166
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 1: but you know, going back to like the defensive line

2167
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: and free agency, like a guy like Wilkins or you know,

2168
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 1: you can kind of fill that hole. And I don't

2169
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,759
Speaker 1: think it's a huge hole, but you know, Darius Robinson

2170
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 1: one that just you know, he's always kind of there.

2171
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 6: How far away from are we from just not taking

2172
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:42,679
Speaker 6: defense in the draft anymore because you can't tackle.

2173
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 1: I mean the point I mean, Evan took one guy

2174
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 1: in his mock and the seventh round I took like

2175
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:48,839
Speaker 1: two as flyers.

2176
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 6: Like, are you going to take a linebacker? He's just

2177
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 6: going to get a flag for every hip drap backle Like,

2178
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 6: just take a receiver.

2179
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 9: I would not be opposed for this being like a

2180
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 9: ninety offense offensive draft.

2181
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 1: No, it should And that's you know, and that's you know,

2182
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 1: going back to the point of the free agency thing

2183
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 1: is like you could really add some impact defenders that

2184
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 1: improve your defense, you know, don't just like kind of

2185
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 1: plug some holes make your defense better and then really

2186
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 1: just go all out in the offense, you know, get

2187
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 1: the young, fast, fresh legs on the offensive side of

2188
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 1: the ball. I don't know, it makes it makes sense,

2189
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 1: but a lot of different about it.

2190
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 5: You can never have have too many pass rushes and

2191
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 5: you can never have too many corners. So if there's

2192
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 5: one of those players that's sitting there at thirty four

2193
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 5: that you feel like, is you know, a shutdown corner

2194
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 5: or a high end pass rusher, then I'm not gonna

2195
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:36,560
Speaker 5: get too mad about it. The other spot that I

2196
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 5: do wonder about where they're going to go is free safety,

2197
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 5: Like are they going to look for that true center fielder,

2198
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 5: you know, Devin mccordy type of free safety. They don't

2199
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 5: have one of those. There's not really an obvious one

2200
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 5: with you know, antonin Winfield is probably gonna get tagged

2201
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,879
Speaker 5: by Tampa, So there's not an obvious one in free agency.

2202
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,719
Speaker 5: So maybe guy like Cameron Kitchens from Miami is someone

2203
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 5: that could last to thirty four. That is a true

2204
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 5: like post safety, you know, middle of the field range

2205
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 5: to go sideline to sideline type of guy. But you know,

2206
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's how they're gonna play defense.

2207
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:09,879
Speaker 5: You know, modern defense a lot more split safety coverage,

2208
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,640
Speaker 5: you know, different types of looks that you don't necessarily

2209
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 5: need that Ed Reid, you know, in the middle of

2210
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 5: the field.

2211
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 1: Oh this is I don't know if I can read

2212
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 1: this one. But how do youngins induced? Thank you. I

2213
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Don't lump me in with any youngins As

2214
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 1: a Michigan guy, I'm giving McCarthy the thumbs down.

2215
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 5: Michigan people will attack me when I say anything bad

2216
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 5: about JJ McCarthy.

2217
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: I know the criteria for judging a QB is living

2218
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: in the same state. McCarthy's all the tools, but he

2219
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 1: is nothing special, carried by an amazing team around him,

2220
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 1: never had to deal with pressure in his face, really

2221
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 1: had to play from behind, doesn't have great counting stats.

2222
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 1: Kind of sounds like.

2223
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 9: Matt Literally that's mac.

2224
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 1: I have to agree with Matisse in a way. Tendy's

2225
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 1: are certainly not better than Prime Rib, but Prime Rib

2226
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 1: is significantly overrated. Give me any cut of steak over

2227
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 1: Prime Rib any day's for dessert rankings, can only wan

2228
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,799
Speaker 1: chocolate cake two, chocolate chip cookies three.

2229
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:04,240
Speaker 5: I agree that greater than Prime Rib, that's true, but.

2230
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 6: It probably take steak over to Actually, no, Tendys are

2231
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 6: just too good, man.

2232
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 9: It's the way he calls them.

2233
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 1: A bad tendy, and I'm off Tendy's. You know, you

2234
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. You, Yeah, everybody knows what

2235
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 1: you're talking You get a bad tendy. Everyone in the

2236
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 1: world knows what I'm talking about. And it's just it's

2237
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 1: like they left the tendon in there, like like there's

2238
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 1: like some kind of sinew if you will phoneless wings,

2239
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 1: well we can we can get into that way. Without

2240
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 1: the guys. All right, So we got one from Dan

2241
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 1: and Va via Michigan. Goodayat PU crew. Uh. Firstly, great

2242
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 1: to see the young guns having the run of the

2243
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:45,719
Speaker 1: studio today. I'm not really a young gun.

2244
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 5: But dude, just go, just going.

2245
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 1: Secondly, I'm shattered, shattered to learn that Fred is a

2246
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:56,560
Speaker 1: big reply all guy. Fred is like a father or

2247
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 1: fun uncle to pe you a nation, and to find

2248
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 1: out that he has a serious character like this is

2249
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 1: just devastating. Next time you're telling us the microwaves fish

2250
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 1: in the office kitchen, we have a joke about that.

2251
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 5: I could see that.

2252
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: Thirdly, it's tough losing Slater. The man is one hundred

2253
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 1: percent class. A level of character unfortunately all too rare,

2254
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 1: and not only sports but public life in general. Who

2255
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 1: becomes the leader in the locker room now? Is there

2256
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 1: a player who's ready to pick up the mantle or

2257
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:22,520
Speaker 1: is it a space waiting for someone to emerge.

2258
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 5: There's never going to be another Matthew Slater in terms

2259
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 5: of leadership. I think, you know that's that's a that's

2260
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 5: gonna take an army like that. It's going to have

2261
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 5: to be multiple guys. And you know, I think that

2262
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 5: leadership also is gonna if you start winning games, then

2263
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 5: all of a sudden it becomes easier.

2264
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden it's it's a chemistry to it,

2265
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:45,040
Speaker 1: and you know, how are you winning? Who are the

2266
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 1: guys that are leading the way?

2267
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 2: You know?

2268
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 1: I mean I think, you know, I expect my boy

2269
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 1: Jabril Peppers to continue to kind of bring that emotional energy.

2270
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 1: But I mean that was a huge bowl. When they

2271
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 1: lost jeed On last year, that was the first thing

2272
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 1: I thought of was, you know, just where's the energy,

2273
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 1: Where's you know, I'm going to miss his press conferences

2274
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,600
Speaker 1: and you know, keeping it light and you know, he

2275
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 1: was such a big part of it, and you know,

2276
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:05,760
Speaker 1: as you've you know, speculated that you know, he could

2277
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,680
Speaker 1: be depending on contract issues, maybe not here have to

2278
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 1: keep him. It's something that they've they've got to figure

2279
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 1: out for sure.

2280
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 9: I could see a guy like Dietrich Wise being like

2281
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 9: like he's a leader already a captain.

2282
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

2283
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 9: He's more on the quiet side, like he really speaks,

2284
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 9: he keeps himself. But Whise, I think I could see

2285
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 9: him kind of I think.

2286
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:27,719
Speaker 1: You need kind of a Willie McGinnis that like everyone's

2287
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 1: kind of afraid of and I think everyone to a standard,

2288
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 1: you know that.

2289
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:33,640
Speaker 5: I feel like that's Bentley. And when I talked to

2290
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:38,440
Speaker 5: Devin mccorty about Drod Mayo, he said, when Mayo retired,

2291
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:40,759
Speaker 5: like he knew that he wasn't going to be able

2292
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 5: to step into that like intimidator leadership role because Mayo

2293
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 5: was both. Mayo was a talker and he had that

2294
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 5: like you know, policing the locker a type of thing.

2295
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 5: And so he said that basically, you know, mccordy took

2296
01:40:57,200 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 5: over the raw rah, you know, leadership, he said to

2297
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 5: the defense, and High Tower took over. They'll like, I'm

2298
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 5: gonna kill you if you mess up, right, And so

2299
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 5: I kind of look at Bentley as somebody that could

2300
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 5: be that kind of intimidator type of leader. And you know,

2301
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:14,640
Speaker 5: they they're gonna need a new voice, you know that,

2302
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 5: That's I think what they're still searching for.

2303
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, L from Wisconsin just chimes insane. The callers that

2304
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 1: want to trade down and not get a QB are

2305
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: going to make me explode. Yes, this team needs a

2306
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 1: lot know who else has an offense with subpar players

2307
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 1: Kansas City that they have a great QB. Had that

2308
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 1: workout for them.

2309
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:33,679
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that they have put maybe the best.

2310
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 1: James Pettigrew, who I'm officially a responsibility to call him

2311
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 1: the most interesting Patriots fan in the world. Will Mapou

2312
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 1: flourished this season. I had high hopes, but sort of

2313
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 1: forgot about him as we thought Bill was holding him back. Marte,

2314
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: Marte Mapu. Go, they're gonna use him right linebacker 'lb.

2315
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear anything more about hybrid. Okay,

2316
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 5: like that sounds cool in theory, like, oh, he's a

2317
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 5: he's a hybrid. He plays anywhere, Like yeah, not for

2318
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:03,799
Speaker 5: you make a Matt Milano.

2319
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 1: But Rego chimes in. If Jefferson becomes available, I assume justin, Yeah, Thomas,

2320
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 1: I think that's priority number one for the Patriots. They

2321
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 1: have to do whatever it takes to acquire him.

2322
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, try two first round picks and probably more.

2323
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then paying him.

2324
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, look, I justin Jefferson's probably my favorite

2325
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 5: receiver that I've ever studied in the draft, like a

2326
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 5: number one. I was so sure that about that guy

2327
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 5: coming out. I would absolutely love him to be a Patriot.

2328
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 5: It would make my day.

2329
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 1: But get you're gritty.

2330
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 5: It's it's kind of how I feel about Marvin Harrison.

2331
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 5: It's like, does it make sense like to trade all

2332
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 5: those assets for a receiver right now? Like it just

2333
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 5: doesn't make any sense.

2334
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 1: Well, we've seen Kirk Cousins and him together, like what

2335
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like that's what it is, Like.

2336
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's as good as it's gonna get. It just

2337
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 5: doesn't They're not Unfortunately, They're just not in a spot

2338
01:42:57,439 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 5: to do something like that. Like if this was two

2339
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 5: years from now and they had the quarterback and they

2340
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,799
Speaker 5: were just looking to add the final pieces to the puzzle.

2341
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 5: And that's different the.

2342
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 1: One piece away moves, you know. It's that like there's

2343
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 1: certain moves that are one piece away. And again, I'm

2344
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 1: gonna stay this all off season, Like does a move

2345
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 1: help you get to Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, Like

2346
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 1: I just see those two guys sitting above us when

2347
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:21,720
Speaker 1: I even mentioned Burrow or Tua, but those are the

2348
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 1: guys that you have to beat. Does Dustin Jefferson help

2349
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 1: you not?

2350
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 4: Come on?

2351
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, but mostly I'd say no with like

2352
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 1: guys like kir Cousins and all that. Sam from Kentucky

2353
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 1: chiming in about twenty twenty one. I know we're moving

2354
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:35,799
Speaker 1: on to the draft, We're going to free agency.

2355
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 9: Sam.

2356
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 1: We didn't need second. We've probably seen the last of

2357
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 1: Mac Jones and a Pat Jersey Pats Jersey. But I

2358
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 1: went back and watched a few games from the twenty

2359
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,679
Speaker 1: twenty one season. The defense definitely helped out, but Mac

2360
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 1: looked comfortable and did have some success. I wouldn't say

2361
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 1: they were a great team, but I definitely say they

2362
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 1: were least a good team. What do you think went wrong?

2363
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 5: Oh? God, how much time?

2364
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:56,959
Speaker 9: Long story short? He lost his confidence.

2365
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that that's a good way to sup

2366
01:43:58,560 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 5: it up other teams.

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01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 1: Do you look at a little bit.

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01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:03,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like the first That's the one thing I

2369
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 5: kind of disagree with because I I think that all

2370
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 5: every quarterback has a skill set, right like, and every

2371
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 5: quarterback plays a certain way. So really, I feel like

2372
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 5: his development just stopped after twenty twenty one, and they

2373
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 5: never kept the needle moving in the right direction after

2374
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 5: that because of various reasons. You know, I feel like

2375
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 5: he would have been fine adjusting to some of the

2376
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 5: things that maybe defenses were doing with him. If he

2377
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 5: didn't have Man Patricia as his offensive coordinator. If they

2378
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 5: never you know, DeVante Parker is their big offseason move

2379
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 5: at receiver. Like if they had actually done it correctly

2380
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:42,679
Speaker 5: in the rebuild, then I think he would have gotten

2381
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 5: over that. But confidence, I think is a big part

2382
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 5: of it. You know, you watch him play, he's you know, decisive,

2383
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 5: he's not you know, anti in the pocket, poised right

2384
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 5: like and now all that is just the opposite.

2385
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 1: I still have the image in my mind of him

2386
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 1: the first time we saw him in like me camp

2387
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 1: rookie when rookie me and camp would have been just

2388
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: ots or something. But it was like just he looked

2389
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 1: more comfortable in the pocket, like his first time I

2390
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 1: saw him on the practice field than he did last year.

2391
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 1: It was crazy, though, I mean, you know, and especially

2392
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: it stood out to me just because having come from

2393
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 1: watching Stidham, you know, as a rookie a couple of

2394
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 1: years earlier, not not in mini camp, but at least

2395
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 1: in training camp where you know, you could just feel it,

2396
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 1: and that's kind of where Mac ended up. It's just

2397
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 1: it's one of those bizarre things where just because a

2398
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: guy looks a certain way, even like right out of.

2399
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 6: The gate for Week one Miami. It was like, you know,

2400
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 6: you went from Tom, then he went from Cam and

2401
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 6: then you like you hear the new cadence and he

2402
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 6: completes the first pass like oh, like all right, we're good,

2403
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:39,759
Speaker 6: We're good, all right, cool enjoying the next twenty years.

2404
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 6: And now it's just kind of like he just needs

2405
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 6: a fresh start. I won't be surprised if he goes

2406
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 6: somewhere and plays pretty well, to be honest, but he

2407
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 6: just needs to.

2408
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 5: I just I just will never stop wondering. Not that

2409
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 5: I think that Matt Jones would have been this Hall

2410
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 5: of Fame level quarterback, but if McDaniels never leaves and

2411
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 5: they just keep the train rolling from twenty eight into

2412
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, you know what, what would have it

2413
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:04,719
Speaker 5: had looked like? Like, you know, would he had been

2414
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 5: at Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr, you know, level quarterback that

2415
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 5: they could have won with. But we'll never know.

2416
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 1: Nope, Well, we just got a commercial insurance quote here

2417
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:17,639
Speaker 1: to the mailbag, but I'm gonna I'm gonna ignore that one. Sorry,

2418
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 1: we don't know to This is Jase from Canada, just

2419
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 1: wondering how next year's team needs, how next year's team needs,

2420
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,599
Speaker 1: assuming everything goes according to you guys as mock drafts.

2421
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 1: I know it's extremely early, but how is next year's

2422
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 1: draft class looking that we can't get next year?

2423
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 9: Sure?

2424
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 1: The Fred thing was like, what.

2425
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 5: I will I will always have a vendetta against. What

2426
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 5: does next year's draft class look like? What did Jaden

2427
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 5: Daniels look like? A year ago? No one had any

2428
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,799
Speaker 5: idea that Jayden Daniels was going to be a Heisman

2429
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 5: Trophy winner and a top ten pick in the draft.

2430
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 5: You could say that about so many guys, Joe Burrow,

2431
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 5: you know so many guys, so I would hesitate to

2432
01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 5: say anything about what the quarterbacks look like in next

2433
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:03,719
Speaker 5: year's class. There's some guys that have potential, Shador Shadoor,

2434
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 5: you know, Carson Beck from Georgia. Like, there's some guys

2435
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 5: that have talent, you know, Quinnie Orys in Texas. Which

2436
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 5: way their their final year goes? Who the heck knows?

2437
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 5: It could either be you know, chaudor could be talked

2438
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 5: about it Caleb Williams has talked about or it could

2439
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 5: be talked about like a Day two pick.

2440
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 1: I have no idea, Indy and Cleveland wants to know

2441
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 1: of anybody any interest in Russell Wilson. Anybody no any

2442
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:30,839
Speaker 1: thoughts on scheme fit as well of in the specific request.

2443
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 5: Oh for me fit with Russell Wilson. Uh, not a

2444
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 5: big under center guy, Russell Wilson. You know, Russell Wilson's

2445
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,919
Speaker 5: always been put him in the gun, let him survey everything,

2446
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 5: you know, at least once he became Russell Wilson. Maybe

2447
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 5: early on with like Marshaun Lynch, they were maybe we're

2448
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:49,080
Speaker 5: a little bit more under center. But even then, you know,

2449
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 5: because of his mobility, a lot of it was option stuff, right,

2450
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 5: you know, trying to use his mobility to impact the

2451
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 5: run games. So I would say that he's more of

2452
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 5: a spread quarterback, more of a gun quarterback. But if

2453
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 5: it was like Russell Wilson gets cut by the Broncos

2454
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 5: and then is just like trying to catch on for

2455
01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty four season at a big discount, then

2456
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 5: that's that's one thing, you know, is could he be

2457
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 5: a bridge quarterback for twenty twenty four Cam Newton's style.

2458
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:18,080
Speaker 1: Let's ride? Maybe Patriots Nation, Let's ride.

2459
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:21,600
Speaker 8: If he's willing to give his teammates his phone number, no, but.

2460
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 1: Will they go to his birthday party?

2461
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 9: Like?

2462
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 1: These are my favorite things, like did everyone go to

2463
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:28,679
Speaker 1: his birthday party? Did he unfollow the team on social media?

2464
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 1: These are like the modern things that get out of

2465
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:33,559
Speaker 1: Oh I don't know, he had a surprise party, but

2466
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:34,600
Speaker 1: not everybody.

2467
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:37,720
Speaker 9: Want It is weird that now like free agency has

2468
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 9: come to that. I mean even with Deebo. With Deebo

2469
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 9: last year, like he unfollowed like everything forty nine ers,

2470
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 9: deleted every forty nineers picture on his page until the

2471
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 9: deal is.

2472
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 6: Done in the club making signs mas.

2473
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:52,679
Speaker 1: It's like, already unfollow y'all anymore?

2474
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 5: So annoying. I mean, hey, I just think they liked

2475
01:48:56,520 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 5: the attention, honestly, like oh, justin Fields one all the

2476
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 5: Bears and then it like it's like a story for

2477
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 5: like fifteen minutes, and I should.

2478
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 1: I mean we should all, but you don't just do that.

2479
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 6: No, you don't like you me?

2480
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 5: He doesn't follow me?

2481
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:15,640
Speaker 9: Well, but I think he's like I don't need any more.

2482
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,679
Speaker 9: It makes sense though, because it's like they obviously can't

2483
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 9: draft Caleb Williams and keep him.

2484
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 17: So like yeah, yeah, if somebody has to do something,

2485
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 17: the Bear's decision I find to be pretty easy. Like,

2486
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:29,759
Speaker 17: I think it's your choice Caleb Williams, Like, I think

2487
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 17: that's not even a question.

2488
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:36,480
Speaker 6: But I I think contract wise both, I think both.

2489
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 5: But mostly skill. But you know, just in terms of

2490
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:41,759
Speaker 5: you know, what Caleb Williams can do as a passer

2491
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 5: is just a lot more advanced, I would say, than

2492
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 5: what Justin Fields brings to the table. But what I

2493
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:51,639
Speaker 5: find interesting about Chicago is you know, what is Justin

2494
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:55,559
Speaker 5: Fields actually worth on the open market? Like, is you

2495
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 5: know there's there's rumors out there that he could be

2496
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 5: worth like a back into the first round pick, Like

2497
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:04,599
Speaker 5: you can give up a first round pick for Justin Fields.

2498
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 5: Like it's just interesting.

2499
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 1: This is like one of those moments where Duke chimes

2500
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 1: in with something that everybody knew a year ago. But

2501
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:11,759
Speaker 1: I was I was doing some research on Brendan Rice.

2502
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and Caleb Williams uncorked the pass to him

2503
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:17,840
Speaker 1: that like he's gonna go through his body Like it

2504
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 1: was it was like, you know, Cab Williams outside the

2505
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 1: pocket and then just stops and just absolutely uncorked one.

2506
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, I've ever seen somebody throw

2507
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:27,519
Speaker 1: a ball that hard. From like thirty yards out and

2508
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even know I caught it, but there it is.

2509
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 5: You know, there's a there's a new word amongst draft Twitter.

2510
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 5: Oh boy, that a new a new adjective to describe

2511
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 5: a quarterback arm elasticity.

2512
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 9: No, I think you I think I think you got

2513
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:42,880
Speaker 9: that wrong. It's not draft Twitter. That's nerd Twitter.

2514
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 5: That's that's draft twitter Twitter. So you know, like having

2515
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 5: you know, you know that elastic arm that like just

2516
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 5: from any angle, any platform, you can just flick the

2517
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 5: wrist and the ball goes sixty yards. That's Cab Williams.

2518
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:56,720
Speaker 9: I'd say Michael Pennix has that too.

2519
01:50:57,479 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 5: I don't know if he has.

2520
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 6: I don't know. If he just doesn't want to watch

2521
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 6: a left lefty quarterback, I'll just watch it.

2522
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 9: Through even doesn't either doesn't want to lefty.

2523
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 5: No, I especially don't want a lefty that has an

2524
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 5: awkward throwing motion. Like on top of him being a lefty,

2525
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 5: he also throws already like Phil like from like the

2526
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 5: side we'll be.

2527
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 1: We'll be backs facing to the field on the press

2528
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:21,679
Speaker 1: box and just watching through a mirror watching.

2529
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:27,920
Speaker 5: If you watch to a flipped it makes a huge difference. Yeah,

2530
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:29,479
Speaker 5: you're like, oh wow, why can't you.

2531
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:31,840
Speaker 3: Just do that the flip horizontal filter?

2532
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2533
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 9: Who, I just want to know who's in desperate need

2534
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:38,559
Speaker 9: for fields outside of obviously the Patriots.

2535
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 6: Falcons, Steelers, the Falcons.

2536
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 5: The Falcons is probably the best fit because they do

2537
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 5: have some supporting cast members that can help him. Yeah,

2538
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 5: that too, but you know, having him in an offense

2539
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 5: with Bijon and with Drake London and Kyle Pitts like

2540
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 5: that is intriguing if you're Atlanta. I just I can't

2541
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 5: gauge his market right now in terms of trade value

2542
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 5: because like, what has he really shown? Has he shown

2543
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 5: that he's a starting caliber? Just keeps showing the game

2544
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:05,840
Speaker 5: from here for twenty and then I did this to

2545
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 5: the Patriots.

2546
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then we didn't win again for another year.

2547
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 9: So that would be so, say, if he did go

2548
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 9: to the Falcons and then that put what Caleb Williams

2549
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 9: at two and then Patriots at what would you take?

2550
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 5: Well, you mean.

2551
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 9: One?

2552
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 5: He go one?

2553
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, yeah, one?

2554
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 5: And then who would it depends on who the commanders

2555
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 5: take like that. You know, I don't know.

2556
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 1: I could see something dumb do something dumb.

2557
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 9: I could see the commanders.

2558
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 5: I could see the commanders taking Jayden Daniels because if

2559
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 5: you're Cliff Kingsbury in that style of offense, you know,

2560
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,759
Speaker 5: the air raid, like, you want a quarterback that's mobile

2561
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 5: and that can run around a little bit. And I

2562
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 5: look at you know, the success that he's had most

2563
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:49,840
Speaker 5: of the time, it's come with you know, Kyler when

2564
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 5: he was healthy in Arizona. You know a guy like

2565
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes in college, Like, those guys are all mobile

2566
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 5: and you can all move around. Now Drake May is

2567
01:52:57,040 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 5: not immobile, but obviously, you know Jayden dan it was

2568
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,640
Speaker 5: a different level of mobility. So if you're looking at

2569
01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 5: trying to unlock the entire Kingsbury offense, have some of

2570
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:08,880
Speaker 5: that RPO, have some of those option runs like that's

2571
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 5: definitely more a fit for Jaden Daniels. So I wouldn't

2572
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 5: rule out commanders taking Daniels that too.

2573
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 9: Do we think all this is going to be ironed

2574
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 9: out as far as like that trade if it does happen,

2575
01:53:20,360 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 9: do you think it'll happen like well before the draft

2576
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 9: or you think we'll be finding out like draft mourning,

2577
01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 9: like they're not picking at one or they are.

2578
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 1: I think that's probably more common, you know, closer to

2579
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Speaker 1: like everybody wants to feel it out and you know,

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01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 1: try to play this against that and this is what

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01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:37,680
Speaker 1: they're offering, and you know usually but but I think

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01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 1: anything could happen. I mean, it's you know, I mean,

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01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 1: I remember what when Clowney got drafted, it was like

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01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:43,760
Speaker 1: two days in advance. You knew, yeah, that that was

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01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 1: the pick, and they told everybody.

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Speaker 5: So it's a unique circumstance, I think because Justin Fields

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01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 5: has shown just enough that if you're a team Mike

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01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:55,400
Speaker 5: Atlanta or even the Patriots to an extent, like you

2589
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 5: could convince yourself that that could be the guy, and

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01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:01,759
Speaker 5: that that guy usually doesn't get moved like too often

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01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 5: in Arizona did it. They let go Josh Rosen like

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01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 5: nobody thought Josh Josh rozen was terrible, Like no one

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01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 5: thought that he was going to be anything, and he wasn't.

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01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 5: So that was like a no brainer. Like this one,

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01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 5: there's at least an argument to be made that Justin

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01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 5: Fields is good enough to be a starting quarterback in

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01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:18,679
Speaker 5: this league.

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01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 1: Try to bang out these last two emails. I feel

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01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 1: like I've done a great shob today on the emails,

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01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:24,720
Speaker 1: getting through that you've been said, Please write in and

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01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 1: tell Fred that I read almost every single one of them.

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01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 1: This one's from Jake going back to adding defensive pieces,

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01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 1: and this was touched on before. I think corner is

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01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 1: a sneaky need. Amidst amidst all the talks about quarterback,

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01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver, etc. Jay Jones is thirty one this year,

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01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones unproven, Miles Bryant good role player free agent.

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01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 1: That leaves just Christian Gonzalez coming off a major injury.

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01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 1: Jac Jackson is probably gonna get cut in Alex Austin.

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01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:50,120
Speaker 1: I think we really need someone to lock down the

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01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 1: side of the field opposite. Gonzo would love to hear

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01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 1: the gang's thoughts. I'll offer mine real quick. I mean,

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01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't disagree, but I think Donathan don't, Donnithan didn't.

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01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 1: I can't talk here at the end of the show.

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01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:03,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I still think he's got a lot in

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01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 1: the tank. He played through injury last year, so I'm

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01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 1: not like, oh, we got to replace him immediately. I

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01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 1: do think that's a long term need. But I'd throw

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01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 1: Isaiah Bolden in there, who unfortunately didn't make it out

2619
01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 1: of that that Green Bay game. Scary concussion, spent the

2620
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 1: year on IR, but was really just a big dude

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01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:21,320
Speaker 1: who was getting some chances. I don't want to like

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01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 1: say that, oh he was in the mix to be

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01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 1: a start or anything like that, but I don't know.

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01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:27,839
Speaker 1: Just from the limited amount we saw him, he's intriguing

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01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 1: to me, like he's just got He's a specimen as

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01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 1: far as size and speed and all that. So I

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01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 1: just I think I do think slots of Need. I

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01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:39,160
Speaker 1: think they need maybe make an addition there in free agency.

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01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 1: But I think I'm okay with Gonzalez and Jonathan Jones

2630
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 1: on the outside at least the start, and then you know,

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01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 1: let Jonathan Jones slide inside if you need to on

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01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 1: on you know, passing downs.

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01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll see what Kansas City does with the franchise attack.

2634
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 5: They're not going to attack Chris Jones, but they might

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01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:54,880
Speaker 5: tackle Jerious Need. But if he hits free agency, I

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01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 5: would give the back to Lagarious Steed like him and

2637
01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 5: Christian Gonzales, you know, the same field together. Good luck

2638
01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 5: throwing against that secondary. You'd be in for a long day.

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01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:06,800
Speaker 1: Good luck. One last one, last one here from Ray

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01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:10,040
Speaker 1: who oh geez, oh geez, Ray, Good job though he

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01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean he laid out the whole off season. I

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01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 1: mean I can kind of run through some of it.

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01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 1: But you know, he wants to cut Ja C. Jackson,

2644
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 1: cut Jamichael Hasty for some savings.

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01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 5: Got to.

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01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 1: Know what did I do?

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01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 9: I would love to add another J in there and

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01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:23,839
Speaker 9: cut Juju.

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01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:25,600
Speaker 1: But he likes a lot of the internal. I mean

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01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 1: he's got when You and Born and Duggar and Elliott

2651
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 1: and Henry and Mills and j Farrell Brown and Jalen

2652
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 1: Rigger and Anthrony Jenny and Myles. But I mean he's

2653
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 1: got everybody kind of being resigned, which I have a

2654
01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 1: little bit of a hard time seeing with like Jalen Mills,

2655
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:43,160
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, I mean Farrell Brown, I'd be I'd be

2656
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 1: down with you kind of do you want to keep seek?

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01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:49,240
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't. We talked about it. Shows that's

2658
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 1: like the one.

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01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 9: In the draft.

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01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 5: Do you mean a free agency either? But like free agency?

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01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 5: I wonder And I know this is probably a longer

2662
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:58,680
Speaker 5: conversation than we don't have time for, but at some

2663
01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 5: point the running back position is gonna be so undervalue

2664
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 5: that it's almost a value, right, And like you look

2665
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 5: at a lot of these backs, like, is Derek Henry

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01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 5: gonna get paid again? You know, Tony Pollard, Austin Eckler,

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01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 5: Josh Jacobs, Saquon Barkley, Like those are some big names

2668
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:14,839
Speaker 5: in free agency, and if they get to free agency

2669
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 5: and there's no money there for them, like you might

2670
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 5: be able to get Saquon Barkley at six.

2671
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 9: Million a year, but he's an injury prone.

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01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 5: But he's not gonna be your number one back, like

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01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 5: you know, or at least he's gonna be in a

2674
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:27,520
Speaker 5: platoon with Rimandre. So like, I just look at these

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01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 5: running backs and at some point it almost becomes value.

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01:57:31,160 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 5: It gets a zig when everybody else is zagging that

2677
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 5: you look at it and you say, well, if no

2678
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:36,600
Speaker 5: one else is gonna pay the guy that was the

2679
01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:39,360
Speaker 5: rushing champ two years ago and Josh Jacobs, then you

2680
01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 5: know we can get him at X price, Like it

2681
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 5: almost becomes a value. So I look at that and

2682
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 5: I wonder if maybe one of those guys is worth it.

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01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 5: I really like Eckler and Pollard.

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01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm just gonna finish here with the draft that

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01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 1: Ray lays out because it's I think it's it's these

2686
01:57:57,480 --> 01:57:59,080
Speaker 1: are the kind of thoughts that are going through my head.

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01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 1: So in the first one with Jaden Daniels. In the

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01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:04,840
Speaker 1: second he said, best offensive tackle available Jordan Morgan, Patrick,

2689
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 1: Paul Tyler Goyton. Third, best wide receiver, offensive tackle, tight

2690
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 1: end available, Roman Wilson, Jalen mcmill and, Malchai Corley, Kingsley,

2691
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 1: Suwamattaya and Javon Foster. Fourth best wide receiver, rot tight

2692
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 1: end available again Blake Fisher, Katee Stover, Brendan Rice, Javon Foster,

2693
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:25,120
Speaker 1: Ricky Purcell. Fifth running back, Blake Watson, Frank cor Junior,

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01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 1: six another quarterback maybe, and then the seventh kicker, free safety, quarterback.

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01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of agree just generally with the

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01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 1: top where it's like quarterback, offensive tackle, receiver, tight end.

2697
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:37,680
Speaker 1: Like in the first two days, you need to check

2698
01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:38,640
Speaker 1: a few of those boxes.

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01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think that. You know, the interesting thing

2700
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 5: is is where do you let the board kind of

2701
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 5: fall to you. Is it a tackle, is it at receiver.

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01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:49,400
Speaker 5: I think at tackle you're risking it. I think there's

2703
01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:53,160
Speaker 5: like eight really good tackles in this class, maybe ten

2704
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:57,120
Speaker 5: guys that can play, and then that parade's going to

2705
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 5: go by quickly, so if you are sitting there, you

2706
01:58:59,880 --> 01:59:02,800
Speaker 5: know you don't take one with your first two picks

2707
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:04,720
Speaker 5: by the time you get to the third round. I'm

2708
01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:06,920
Speaker 5: not sure if there is a Day one starter at

2709
01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:09,680
Speaker 5: tackle whereas a receiver there. There could be. With the

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01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 5: death in this class.

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Speaker 1: All right, I think that's gonna do it for us.

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