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<v Speaker 1>It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. How you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>We're back for another episode of nine O two one

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<v Speaker 1>oh MG with my bestiees Jenny Tuerman. What's up? I

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<v Speaker 1>like that here? Yeah, you put your arms up? Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, what is going on on our social media page?

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I don't know if I'm more shook as

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<v Speaker 1>the kids say, by the episode we just watched, or

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<v Speaker 1>by the Instagram comments. It's getting hot in here, so

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<v Speaker 1>tick off all your clothes? No sorry, wait, actually like nope, nope,

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<v Speaker 1>I like, really it's so hot in here? Wait? So

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<v Speaker 1>we are We have like our private group chat and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like blowing up last night. We're going back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth and basically we were like, Amy, welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>our world. Like, can you do you think you can

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<v Speaker 1>read a little bit of one of the comments? You? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I will read it because so here's I've

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<v Speaker 1>been like all night actually like a little stressed because

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to ask you guys something, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>stressed about how to ask it. What Just asking it

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<v Speaker 1>not okay because I don't even know if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>will be able to answer, So it might be a

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<v Speaker 1>question for everyone listening. Okay, alright, I like it, so okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so let me read this. I will. I will read

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<v Speaker 1>this because I mean it's on Instagram and I do

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<v Speaker 1>read every comment. There was someone that's like, can you

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<v Speaker 1>really read every comment? And the one thing, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to use Instagram, so I only know how

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<v Speaker 1>to be a voidor like I can read everything, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how. I would like just push repliment.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems so scary. Okay, so scary, right to do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Read it? Okay, So I'm gonna read you guys what

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<v Speaker 1>the person wrote. And like, I also know my voice

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<v Speaker 1>is annoying. I know that my voice. Everyone's voice is

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<v Speaker 1>annoying to someone that is that's objective. It's like art.

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<v Speaker 1>I've annoyed her with my voice for thirty years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? I see I don't find your

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<v Speaker 1>voice annoying. I've annoyed myself with my own voice all

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<v Speaker 1>these years as well. I mean, to be fair, your

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<v Speaker 1>your voice is pretty like neutral and decent. Yeah, your

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<v Speaker 1>voice am like you both have you get excited, you're passionate,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's being said, you have annoying voice because she

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<v Speaker 1>isn't like what you're saying, you both have television voices.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you've done voiceovers. You guys are professionals. My

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<v Speaker 1>voice is annoying and I but I have heard from

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. So you guys are like my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're being nice many people. I'm being nice. That's

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<v Speaker 1>in my wheelhouse. I'm being honest. That's the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>she will tell it like it is like honestly, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're a producer, but we have you on every week

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<v Speaker 1>because you're an uber fan. You have great perspective, and

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<v Speaker 1>her voice was annoying. We wouldn't want you to be

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, I think you'd be as tolerated or

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<v Speaker 1>you're used to it. But because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, why are you yelling at me? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just a speaking voice. Okay. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>read this and I'm not reading it to like like

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<v Speaker 1>call the person out or like to my own I

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<v Speaker 1>have an actual question about this. And I spent an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a half thinking about this last night. So

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<v Speaker 1>what the person wrote was well, first they wrote, Amy

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<v Speaker 1>should listen how annoying her own voices? Which respect it

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<v Speaker 1>is all too maybe like take classes. Maybe I can

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<v Speaker 1>do something. But then she said before she makes fun

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<v Speaker 1>of Brenda's voice, I wasn't actually making fun of Brenda's voice.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to like do a character. But whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>stop dissing she Annon. It's really not cool. You're like

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<v Speaker 1>a middle school or trying to kiss up to the

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<v Speaker 1>popular girl to like you. You are the one making

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<v Speaker 1>such a big deal over Kelly and Brenda. Stop putting

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<v Speaker 1>a wedge between them even more than there is one.

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<v Speaker 1>We would all love to see everyone get along. Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>is way cooler than you would ever be. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>my question for you guys. And I'm being totally serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I I was a little word, I would cry,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna not cry. Why would people, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is not the only person, Why would people assume just

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't like Brenda that I don't like Shannon.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they have a lot of uber Fans have a

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<v Speaker 1>really hard time distinguishing between the characters and actors that

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<v Speaker 1>played them, which I mean, it's why we love them

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<v Speaker 1>so much is because they grew up a this show.

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<v Speaker 1>They feel like it was part of their lives. They

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, in a way it was their friends. Like

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<v Speaker 1>so it's hard to distinguish it. So she's just an

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<v Speaker 1>uber fan and she is like, wow, you sugarman, you're

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<v Speaker 1>officially in the nineties and West Beverly and you're in

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<v Speaker 1>our school. You should be walking up and down the hallway, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And and that's what we said last night in the text.

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<v Speaker 1>We were like, welcome to being a celeb, like welcome

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<v Speaker 1>being the public eye, welcome to fame. Like everybody's going

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<v Speaker 1>to either build you up or knock you down. So

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to decide what you want to focus on.

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<v Speaker 1>But to answer your question, yeah, I mean, that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason why Tory and I went the b

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<v Speaker 1>h N O two in a direction was because there's

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<v Speaker 1>such a blur between the real people and the characters

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<v Speaker 1>on this specific show more than I don't know, more

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<v Speaker 1>than so many other shows. What I was gonna say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you guys, I and I really take these comments

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<v Speaker 1>to heart, Like I don't. I try not to cry.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I do, but for the most part, I really

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<v Speaker 1>want to learn from it because more than just like

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<v Speaker 1>getting to be on the air with you guys, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the producer, so it's my job to read those things

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<v Speaker 1>and take into account. So I really thought hard, like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there another example I could give of like a

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<v Speaker 1>character I don't like? And I was like, if I

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<v Speaker 1>could even think of a person where I'm friends with

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<v Speaker 1>the person even though I don't like. Okay, And I

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<v Speaker 1>tried so hard because all I could come up with

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<v Speaker 1>is like I loved Aiden on Sex in the City,

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't mean I didn't like any of the

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<v Speaker 1>other boyfriends, or like, I, okay, here's my best one,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my best wife. I am team Logan. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you guys know what that means, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>from Gilmore Girls and Rory had three boyfriends, Jess, Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>and Logan, and I am full team Logan. But no

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<v Speaker 1>one's ever been like, why do you hate my log

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<v Speaker 1>and Amelia. I think that's a guy girl thing. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that that you're talking about referencing guy characters.

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<v Speaker 1>What this person's got the beef with is with girl characters.

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<v Speaker 1>And especially that part of their comment that was like

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<v Speaker 1>why do you continue to drive a wedge between them

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<v Speaker 1>something of that nature? Right, That was very fascinating because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think you are driving a wedge

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<v Speaker 1>between anyone. And also while I'm on it. Uh the

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<v Speaker 1>part about you sucking up to the popular girls. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>Amy is our producer, she is our boss. If anybody

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<v Speaker 1>should be sucking up, it's us sucking up to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it right now. I love you, Amy, I

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<v Speaker 1>love your voice. Oh my god. If we want our

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<v Speaker 1>show to go on forever and ever, we come on.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm actually not like to me, I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about it, and I'm like sweating because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want this person waiting for you to think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not criticizing them. I accept the comment, and I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to understand because I don't like Brenda. Like

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<v Speaker 1>even when we talk about this episode in the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>half of the episode, I was like, Brenda, she looks

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<v Speaker 1>amazing and this and this, and then she turns and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to write, see Brenda's annoying, Like the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Brenda dumped Reek like that was annoying. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the prevalent storyline right now. Of course you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be hyper focused on talking about that storyline. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason they wrote it that way is they want it

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<v Speaker 1>like you're supposed to choose, so you're supposed to invest

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<v Speaker 1>in it, that's and they get point of it. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're happy that you have your opinion, and we're happy

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<v Speaker 1>that this person has their opinion because that's why the

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<v Speaker 1>people love the show exactly. But it is so interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that she relines blur turned it to that, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you like Shannon? Yeah, which is not Shannon as a person.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I've met Shannon one time, if one time, But

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is, like my job, I'm friends with Shannon's publicist,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's my friends is the person's person? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like I book Shannon anytime she

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<v Speaker 1>wants anything, anywhere, anytime, whenever she needs anything, and she

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<v Speaker 1>may know that, but like her publicist, I would, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even so that. I mean, it's kind of cool

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<v Speaker 1>that you probably never have this perspective. You're on the

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<v Speaker 1>flip side. You're dealing with celebrities, but there are people

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes making it work because she's a producer.

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<v Speaker 1>And now all of a sudden, you're hyper focus. You're

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<v Speaker 1>in the limelight and everyone's like talking about you, and

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<v Speaker 1>now you know, like, oh my god, all these years,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what all these celebrities are talking about. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Walters, Yes, like he lost his career because and people,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, people would come up to him in the street.

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<v Speaker 1>He played Raid Pruett Donna Martin pushed her down the

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<v Speaker 1>stairs and spoiler sorry season five for example, and people

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<v Speaker 1>were like, why would you do that to Johnna and

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<v Speaker 1>like slap him. He's like, Amy, I don't wait, they

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<v Speaker 1>slapped him. You guys slapped in public one fan. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>poor guy. That's so interesting. That's a great example because

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying so hard to think of a character

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't like but that I love the actor.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm having a hard time like thinking of one

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel like we spent enough time talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this quite honestly, I'm sure everyone else because but but

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<v Speaker 1>but having said that, please keep commenting because it's fascinating, entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes Amy cry of Thimes. I laugh and like,

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<v Speaker 1>I like, I do text these guys, and I because

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<v Speaker 1>I texted you guys the other morning, like superly, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, they're they care, like they care they're commenting.

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, it's like shocking that it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>the three of us that hear each other like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody takes a power out of their week to listen

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh my gosh, so many people in our podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, and I love those comments because, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>gets people through their week. It gives them something to

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to. They they feel like they know us,

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of they do. So it's like we're all

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out, laughing together, and that's what's so great of

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<v Speaker 1>this is a conversation we're all having about our show,

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<v Speaker 1>a favorite show, and like it's just a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's keep it positive people. I also love if

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<v Speaker 1>someone hates it but listens, Like if you hate it, like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Affleck had a terrible movie. It's called like deep

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<v Speaker 1>Water in the Water something, and I hate watching it

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, this is such a bad movie that

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<v Speaker 1>I need to watch it all the way to the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I love Ben Affleck, but it is a bad movie.

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<v Speaker 1>So also if you're like I hate them, like, let

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<v Speaker 1>us know what My question is. I wonder if shows

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<v Speaker 1>now with the new generation, when they watch shows, if

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<v Speaker 1>they blend characters and actors or if that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>generational actor like question the eighties and nineties and early

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands, I don't know, you know what's crazy. There's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>First of all public apology. Uh, we have a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name is Crystal. I called her Crystal because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I've never heard the word Crystal. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>heard that name anyway. Sorry, Crystal, I love you. But

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<v Speaker 1>on some you know, public platforms, she was out it

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<v Speaker 1>and like made ridiculed for being such a fan. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>something something happened. I don't know the specifics, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was some involvement with the nine to one. Oh Bro

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<v Speaker 1>came to her defense. This is all stuff that I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard from my husband because he hears it at the

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<v Speaker 1>Douglas where Crystal visits at his restaurant all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So they she was sharing with him that uh, some

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<v Speaker 1>some crazy stuff like that had gone down where people somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>some specific person I'm not sure who it was, was

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<v Speaker 1>um telling her she was an idiot or something for

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of them. Yeah, the thinking that we cared about

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<v Speaker 1>her because I guess you know, maybe she sent the

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<v Speaker 1>DVD collection and they were like you and you thank

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<v Speaker 1>her because you love her and if we desperately needed it.

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<v Speaker 1>But what a jerk that person is to be like

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<v Speaker 1>what they're like, you're a loser because you love nine

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<v Speaker 1>O'TO one oh, like you don't. You don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't give famous people presents. They don't care. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I think it's really about. They're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>jelly that she actually does have a connection with us personally, yea,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically you. That's we just d we at his restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I have to ask Daron Martin about this, because now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course he would come to Christ's defense, right anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know this and Christmas and like, wow, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to come on in now. We needed the DVDs.

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<v Speaker 1>We do, we use them, so thanks Christine's. It's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I I say that like in all seriousness,

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<v Speaker 1>like it really is. I don't mock it. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>judging it because I care about every single comment. I

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<v Speaker 1>told you, guys, yesterday, I was having this conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, like this guy is super smart,

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<v Speaker 1>way smarter than me, and he was talking about something

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<v Speaker 1>and I mentioned you guys. I mean he freaked out,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's like everybody likes nine out two and O,

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<v Speaker 1>like this guy is, wait, tell us more about how

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<v Speaker 1>he freaked out about it. So I was using it

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<v Speaker 1>as an example because he's working on this project for us,

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<v Speaker 1>totally different. And I said, blah blah blah, like when

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to Torri and Jenny and he's like it

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<v Speaker 1>was like record screech. He goes, what And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you mocking me? He was joking. He goes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Tory Spelling and Jenny Garth and I'm like yeah, He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there anyway you could get me their autograph? Like what?

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, you guys, this guy is well, we're very

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<v Speaker 1>very popular with the Pulitzer Prisers were people journalists that

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<v Speaker 1>writes for like NPR, like like people stuff like he

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<v Speaker 1>writes about like probably like Wars. And I'm like this

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<v Speaker 1>time when we were talking about Kelly versus Brenda, so

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I get you an autograph? Like yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, are you joking with me? Like I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was pulling my leg. He's like, I had the

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<v Speaker 1>sideburns like Brandon. I grew up with my sister watching

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<v Speaker 1>this like super fan and so kind and so smart

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<v Speaker 1>and had like the most smart thoughts about the rees.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we have him on one? We should get his

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<v Speaker 1>opinion on Kelly asked him, he is team Kelly. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie, but he had wonderful things to say

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<v Speaker 1>about Brenda. But he I said, is there any chance

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<v Speaker 1>you and your sister would come on? So he's asking

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<v Speaker 1>his sister and then I'll let you guys know. It

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<v Speaker 1>was so fun, crazy crazy. Yeah, Okay, we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to dive in to season three episode thirteen, Rebel with

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<v Speaker 1>a Cause, aired on November eleven. Wait for it, the

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<v Speaker 1>longest synopsis ever. Steve stays close to Andreae, now confined

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<v Speaker 1>to a wheelchair with two broken legs, who was keeping

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the fed's investigation at the school break

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<v Speaker 1>and of the school break, and he fears that she

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<v Speaker 1>may find out his criminal secret. Steve gets more worried

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<v Speaker 1>when the sleazy school janitor Hutchens demands more black Man

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<v Speaker 1>mind to keep quiet about Steve's copy of the Master Key. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Brenda now dan Riek, freaks out when she sees Dylan

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<v Speaker 1>dating Kelly. Dylan gets bad news regarding his abilable let's

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<v Speaker 1>say t score, His frustration peaks, and he hits the road, shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim's dull work life gets a lift by Dot Dot

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<v Speaker 1>Dot Dot What Okay, Don't? Directed by Daniel Addius, written

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<v Speaker 1>by Star Froman, Chris Broncotto, Kenneth Biller, Chip Johansson, and

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<v Speaker 1>some say Darren Starr. Did you see that comment that

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<v Speaker 1>they say that Darren Star maybe didn't really write them.

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<v Speaker 1>He just has his name on everything exactly, or we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the wrong source, but I think his name.

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<v Speaker 1>He probably gets a writing credit on everything, whether he

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<v Speaker 1>actually wrote it or off. Some of the episodes, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but some say his name and some don't. But this one,

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<v Speaker 1>just like on air said Star Froman. Well, apparently she

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<v Speaker 1>had a little help. Okay, I don't know, like rewrites.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe that's what it happened. This was a big episode.

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<v Speaker 1>There were so many storylines going on, Like I was

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. Did you like the episode? You

0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:21.840
<v Speaker 1>guys mean what I did? But I felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like there was too much going on, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to see more of They focus just me, team Brenda,

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<v Speaker 1>team Kelly. Let's stay on that storyline. Sorry, I got excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit my mic like I'm sorry because it's such a

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<v Speaker 1>good storyline when it goes to like Steve, where it

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<v Speaker 1>goes to Andrea or you know, I'm just not I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like no, no, hurry, hurry, and then sorry, sorry, Jen Earms,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Jim Walsh. I'm like, I thought that I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, let's talk about Dottie first, because the

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<v Speaker 1>scene with Mr and Mrs Walsh and Brandon discussing Dottie

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<v Speaker 1>and him's no chance with Dottie. I was laughing out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>like I thought that was it was cute between the

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<v Speaker 1>two of them, but I felt like it was really

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<v Speaker 1>weird when Brandon just walks into the foyer and starts

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<v Speaker 1>to objectify this grown woman in his doorway, Like, who

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<v Speaker 1>what young man talks to a grown woman like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Cindy Crawford, So it must be the Ears what so

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<v Speaker 1>pol Tricky, Pol Tricky who played Dottie? Um, I don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I met her even then, but went

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<v Speaker 1>on to be like friends with her later in life,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like she was at my first wedding

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<v Speaker 1>in my first husband and yeah, and we've lost touches.

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<v Speaker 1>He's coming on with us, we're trying to work it out,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking to it. Okay. Wait, So I am obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>because the other nine oton Ho podcast, Pete Ferrarrow was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, there's some crazy story that Pol Tricky tells.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember. I was like, no, it's shocking what

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to hear that? She actually come on, but

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<v Speaker 1>she had a dentist appointment today or like an appointment,

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<v Speaker 1>and so were you just working out the schedule? Oh good,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna get juicy something to look forward to people.

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<v Speaker 1>She is lovely. So I'm sorry, I mean, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about that Dottie line. I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I believe Jim. Honestly, I think it's just me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm a little jaded. But when when Jim professes that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I'm at work, all I think about

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<v Speaker 1>is work in my family. Right, So, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>Jim had that little fantasy about Dottie because Mrs Walsh

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<v Speaker 1>put it in his head. No, No, you think he's

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<v Speaker 1>been He's kind of like he's not going to do anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but we think he's got the hots for dots. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now maybe he doesn't have the hots for but he's

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<v Speaker 1>not blind. Yeah, exactly, he's a man like. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. It just made me a little upset with

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<v Speaker 1>my main man. But it was redeemed. All was redeemed

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw him in the blue robe. With its

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<v Speaker 1>jes hair smoking out. Oh, I can't what fringiest line

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<v Speaker 1>was when he's like, sleep with you, I mean sleep

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I was like, it was so good. I

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<v Speaker 1>was getting real mad. I was like, what is Donnie

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<v Speaker 1>moving it on? My man? I was getting so mad

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<v Speaker 1>for the lines blurred Tory, what do you think of

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<v Speaker 1>Dottie and Jim? Do you think it's platonic? Yeah? But

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<v Speaker 1>I think it could go somewhere. But does it? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember now? Oh, I mean we'll see. I liked

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<v Speaker 1>this scene. I feel like the story Paul Tricky has

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<v Speaker 1>is regarding Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so too. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>that's my excited You're gonna be so excited that day.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it because I loved seeing Jim and Cindy interact.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they have such a real they they seem married,

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<v Speaker 1>the way he says, what's the matter, honey, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it just seemed the way that was written. The whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing about it was just really good. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>hard time listening because I was so distracted by her

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<v Speaker 1>plaid suit while she's making the fried chicken. Um who

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<v Speaker 1>wears a plaid sigurt? I mean suit, full suit jacket,

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<v Speaker 1>and no little shorts, a little take the jacket off.

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<v Speaker 1>The jack off. If you're gonna get grease splattered on it,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, that's going to ruin that, I know. And

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<v Speaker 1>then she wears it for the rest of the episode. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim is in a row, he's in a different outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes like, I wonder if it just smells the food,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he put after shave on. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>iron first, because we want to save the best for

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<v Speaker 1>the middle. I mean, it's kind of juicy and dramatic,

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<v Speaker 1>but kind of dumb. Part which part which hacker and

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<v Speaker 1>they is on the case? Do the fans really come

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<v Speaker 1>to investigate? The synopsis there through me because it said

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<v Speaker 1>that the Feds were investigating this. Maybe back then it

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<v Speaker 1>was a big deal. They had the time apparently to

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<v Speaker 1>come to school investigate the Wow. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really into Hutchins. Yeah, a good character actor,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what was he and you know he probably was

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<v Speaker 1>in something back in the Yeah, you're talking about the janitor, right, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I could have watched him for a while. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>my question. I mean, what a bad dude the janitor is? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>like that is essentially a teacher at the school and

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<v Speaker 1>he is blackmailing a child. Is he a teacher? He's

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<v Speaker 1>not a teacher. I mean, I consider anyone that works

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<v Speaker 1>in a school is like some sort of faculty, yeah, authority,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like literally blackmailing a kid. It's so that

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<v Speaker 1>guy's shockingly evil for nine O two one, oh, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Like that's a reister. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I was surprised he took a hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised he didn't want more. It was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, he's like we're good for a now or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like. Then he then he wised up and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, oh, I see I can get some

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<v Speaker 1>more money. It's so inappropriate and like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't buy it, but like, okay, I can suspend

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<v Speaker 1>whatever disbelief. Is that what they say? I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the effort of putting making another storyline, so like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>what cereal? Like it goes from episode episode episode like

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it builds, but how much more? What's gonna is somebody

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 1>going to go to jail? The feaser there? What's going

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 1>to happen? Like is it does it keep going? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, well and we have the drama of the legacy,

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<v Speaker 1>but she secretly means, is I hope it ends next?

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<v Speaker 1>I hope a done? Please tell how many more episodes?

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>And the Brandon knows, Brandon knows. Brandon's like, dude, I

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<v Speaker 1>know this is like a series arc now, like why

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and then Andrea wheeling around in a wheelchair. I can't

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 1>put the lengths straight out. That's really gotta be awkward.

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Getting the do look so hard Because you told me

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that story last week, I was like, do I see

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the feet? Do? I seem like is it a cast?

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<v Speaker 1>And it was just a blank at this time. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. So now though, it is starting to make

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<v Speaker 1>sense why Iron said to you Tori the legacy key

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 1>was such a major thing because I think he considers

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<v Speaker 1>the legacy key this entire yep. Seeing that now, yeah,

0:25:56.520 --> 0:26:00.400
<v Speaker 1>makes sense, makes sense. Done in David, Uh, I didn't

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>have a lot to do in this episode. They were

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like in and out, in and out,

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<v Speaker 1>but still together. They moved the storyline along a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Just yeah, I didn't there was not anything meat there

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>for them this week. I didn't feel like and Donna's

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<v Speaker 1>so interesting. I was thinking about this story because with

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<v Speaker 1>the Kelly Brenda like all that. It's like Donna really

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the series is the peacemaker, the you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>really is trying to you know, the therapist of the group,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of trying to keep everybody. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>what the word is for that PTSD. I mean because

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<v Speaker 1>in real life, like it was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>that too, like when there would be like offset but

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<v Speaker 1>still on set friction between Jen and Shannon because you

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<v Speaker 1>know we've discussed before we were all friends. They were friends,

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<v Speaker 1>but they too strong personalities and when things would happen

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<v Speaker 1>to areas women, you know, it would and I would

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>just be like, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay,

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>like still like me kind of thing. So it's very Donna,

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>very telling. Also what you just said referring back to

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the person that blends Shannon and Brenda, because you all

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:28.360
<v Speaker 1>do two in some ways, I think we might have

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>been more obviously art imitates life imitates art type of

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>deal a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it always felt

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>like we were we were with Shannon, not Brenda when

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 1>we were off camera, like it never that, Okay. I

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:54.120
<v Speaker 1>guess my question would be for Jenny, it's like it

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.959
<v Speaker 1>was hard for you now and over the course of

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the Kelly versus Brenda. You know, I'm team Brenda, and

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 1>it made you feel bad. So does it, Like we

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 1>talked about this this week, it bleeds. So maybe maybe

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>you never would have had friction with Shannon if the

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>storylines would have been different. I don't know. Maybe not.

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because maybe it's inside your body's like

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:25.360
<v Speaker 1>like you said, you you girls are against each other,

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:30.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what you're supposed to do, Like yeah, yeah, like

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe it infiltrates, Like I don't I don't know. I'm

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>being like, maybe we need a therapist. Maybe because we

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>were so young and like and so impressionable at that age,

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe it did have a deeper impact on us than

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>either of us really recognized or want to recognize. Really,

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like if someone tells you you're mean, You're mean,

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>you two times your friend, you two times your friend.

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>You did this, you did this, you did this, you

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>did this. At some point you go, I did this.

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm a bad person. Yeah, this is gonna go in

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>the backyard and eat some worms. Like I suck. I mean,

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Kelly sucks. But right, but Okay, you said

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I sunk and you don't. But Kelly's I don't think

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 1>she's like but it blurs, it blurs, blurs, it burns,

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>it blurs. I don't know, Like Tori, did you ever

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>have that same experience maybe with the being the virgin

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>or if Donna was the good girl, if Tori Spelling

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>was being more of a bad girl, did it mix

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you up? Now? It's interest fair, No, I mean it

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>is a part. I mean third season, all the characters

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>are getting really highly infused in some way with the

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>actual actors. I feel like, m hm, and it's coming

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>out more. There's more freedom, I think two okay for

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>safety in the job. Now we're relaxed. People are just

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>being themselves a little bit more. And yeah, there was

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>a few times watching this episode that when I saw

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Shannon playing Brenda, I was like, that felt more Shannon

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>then Brenda. There was just a couple of moments and

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, I'm seeing it come out. I

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>could see it. Mh. Wow. Well let's take a good break,

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you guys. I think we should take a break and

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 1>come back and continue on m First of all, how

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>hot was Brenda in her opening scene when she walks

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>into the school in the boostier with her hair all

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>like fell had that hat. She looked like hot mama,

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Like what a voie? Her hair is amazing, amazing hair.

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, always that outfit. I just kept staring at it,

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>like I got distracted. It was distracting. But Donna was

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.959
<v Speaker 1>wearing the cutest outfit that totally was stylish today. The

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>crop top vest was short, like it was like very

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>fashionable today. What are you wearing khakis? It was like

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>that commercial. Yeah, she's in khaki and to thigh. You

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>know when you get like when you're in a breakup

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's like when you get a divorce or whatever,

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>you want to look extra hot, like right, and you're

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>really after it. Like I knew that. I felt that

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>coming in strong and she was like, I'm gonna look

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>good in this episode because I need to like show

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>him or show them or something, you know. So I

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>have one technical question that I thought was really interesting

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>about the episode. I think Tori and Brenda, sorry Donna

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and Brenda. See I didn't even flinch, Like, Okay, Donna

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and Brenda are walking and you're walking, you know, through

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the school yard or whatever, and then you walk into

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the classroom, and then it was this really cool segue

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>right to Ian and David and I know from the

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>West Wing they call it like a walk and talk.

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like one shot, so you would not be complicated

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>to do, right, do you remember that at all? Like

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you can't mess it up or you screwed them? Yeah?

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we hated those We were like taken

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:35.479
<v Speaker 1>so long because they would probably do it like fifty

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>million times because there's so many moving parts. There's like wait, sorry,

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm backtracking, not really, but Jen, like if you're out

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>somewhere you just hear someone randomly say Kelly, do you

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:51.479
<v Speaker 1>turn around? Oh great question? Um, first I get scared.

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I kind of get like nervous and the hunch of

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 1>my shoulders up a little, and then I had to

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 1>be invisible. Like do you ever feel that feeling of

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>like if I just hold really still, it'll go away.

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>It'll they won't It won't be about me. Yeah, you

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>don't want the attention, you're like, because sometimes people sometimes

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>people will do that just to like prove that I am. Like,

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>they'll yell out Kelly just to see I do react,

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>because if I do react, then it's really me. But

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the time, they're not talking about me

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>at all. They're just talking to somebody else named Kelly.

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>But I but first, like gut, it's like when someone says, mom,

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you always turn it's not your kid, like, so I'm

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>just saying, like, if you just hear like Kellarie, like

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>for just a second, even in your head, like do

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you do you? Oh, if someone says Donna anywhere and

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>they're just like, it's a girl named Donna, I always

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>like I'll respond to Tory Donna mom, like what I like, yeah,

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 1>I turn around. Yeah, it's definitely something that perks are

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>ears up and you're like, okay, yeah, you guys, this

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>is crazy pisis because we're proving our own points. Oh

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>my god, where geniuses like we I mean surprise. So

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:33.839
<v Speaker 1>I guess we need to start with Jenny, who who that? Okay,

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to know how you were feeling last night

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>or this morning whenever you watched it right after, like

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>how your body felt, like how you're emotional. Not Kelly,

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>but like Jenny Garth. I had so much anxiety watching

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 1>this episode, like physical shortness of breath, like someone is

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>sitting on my chest, that kind of feeling. I was

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 1>so nervous and just like I just have notes all

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 1>over my favorite I have anxiety, I have anxiety, I

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 1>have any But it got me going, like I was,

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 1>it was stressful and I'm and it was it was

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 1>something so sweet and beautiful about it, but then there

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>was something so ugly and embarrassing and and like what

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to ever be and I doesn't want

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to see Kelly having to be in that position or Brenda.

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 1>It was just really messed up, just so messed up.

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>And also I felt like this guy he might be real,

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>real cute, but is he really worth this, like destroying

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>a friendship or and also the way he's acting like

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 1>it didn't seem to matter to him, and the way

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>he leaves m hmm, it's just what he does, right,

0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:02.280
<v Speaker 1>he walks out cowardly. It's just cowardly. And it started

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>like as a woman, Yeah, I really recognized how lost

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>a mix up in this emotion. These two girls were

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>about a guy who really didn't deserve it. Oh, Heavy Tory,

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>what about you? I mean I'd love to ask you

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the same question, how you felt like as the credits rolled,

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 1>so I've been like truly invested, you know, obviously I

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>used to. Like back the day, I was always like,

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, like Brenda and Dylan, they were an

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>ultimate couple, like I want that when I get older.

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 1>And then rewatching it, I was like, you know what

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 1>they had, they just weren't meant to be. Maybe they

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:47.800
<v Speaker 1>were like on some level soulmates some but not this lifetime,

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 1>not meant to be or right now, maybe somewhere down

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the road, um, but you know. And then Kelly and Dylan,

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.919
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yes, yes, yes, So I just love

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>them together. I love the chemistry, I love everything about them.

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 1>This week, I had a hard time staying focused on

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the storyline because I was so I felt nervous every

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>scene I was taken out because I felt nervous for

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:14.919
<v Speaker 1>gents reaction. To be honest, for my reaction. Now, yeah,

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>the discuss I really did. Each time I was like, oh, man, like, yeah,

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it was hard to She's not going to be happy

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:25.760
<v Speaker 1>about this, She's that this is gonna hurt her soul. Like, yeah,

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>it was hard. It was hard for me to watch.

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>One of the conversations, Tory, that's very interesting you brought

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>that up. One of the conversations going on on social

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>is are you seeing it differently as you're rewatching it,

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>like these guys watching are saying back then in the

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>nineties they were team Brenda and watching it now they

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>are team Kelly. And I'm sure the reverse is true too.

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>So Jenny, for you, when you were doing it, what

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 1>was your experience versus now watching it? Like, when you

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>were doing it, did you feel any of the things

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you're feeling now? It was just true what you're probably feeling.

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Other things like not not related to this topic. I was.

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean when I was working with Luke, when we

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.319
<v Speaker 1>were shooting those scenes, like the scenes at the observatory,

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>which I had totally forgotten about, amazing classic scene. Um

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I was. I could tell. I could remember how special

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that time was and how um good it felt to

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>be working just with him and for he and I

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>to be to get to have that time together. I

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>remember really loving, right, did you, because can you remember

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 1>it all? Like you must have had multiple days up

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>there just the two of you, because none of the

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 1>rest of the cast was there or would have been there.

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 1>It would just be you guys with the crew because

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that was the Griffith absorbing observatory. That was it, which

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>is thus Rebel with a Cause, because in Rebel Without

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>a Cause with James Dean, there was a big observatory Natalie, what, oh,

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>that's great knowledge, Tori. I didn't realize that. Yeah, it

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:16.400
<v Speaker 1>was just what it felt like time was standing like

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>time was standing still when we were doing that stuff,

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>like it was like frozen and I had forgotten all

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 1>about it, and now watching it, I remember how it felt.

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>And it was all the things. It was good and

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 1>bad and confusing and exciting and terrifying and you know,

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>but then there was also that like the factor reality

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>of going and doing the scene in the restaurant where

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Kelly and Dylan are are having a weird dessert moment,

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>like what what was happening with that chocolate mouse? The

0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:01.640
<v Speaker 1>history of why she eat she can't have a bite

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>of dessert? Oh I shouldn't girl eat the dessert. And

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>then you go a tiny bit and he literally gave

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 1>you like like a pin dot. Oh my gosh. That

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>means that makes me think like it would have been

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>so luke to like smashing your face. But we're like, yeah,

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm just just kidding. And then you guys would like

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 1>be like happy um or actually you would, you would

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 1>have done that first, right, But if there was just

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 1>a pin dot, I feel like, was he giving you

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>too much? At first? I wonder if there was like

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 1>some like something back and forth like can you not

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 1>give me so much food? I'm trying I have to

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>talk like why. He probably thought it was funny, probably,

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and then finally he's like, ok ok wait before the drama,

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>when you watch yourself with that really like beautiful, amazing

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:54.919
<v Speaker 1>shot with l A behind you, and you guys must

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.400
<v Speaker 1>have been kissing for hours and hours and hours because

0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>obviously it's like a seven minute kissing scene, so that

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>probably took days. What are you watching? One day took

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>one night, one night, it was nine days of kissing.

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 1>What do you think when you're because I'm trying to

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:14.840
<v Speaker 1>think as a fan, what I'm thinking when I'm watching

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the makeout? What are you thinking? Because it's you? I

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 1>mean at that time in my life. Now, okay, both

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 1>both both both people are gonna kill me if you

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>don't do both both. I mean, I was into it,

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:35.399
<v Speaker 1>we were filming it. I'm not gonna lie. I wasn't

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 1>thinking about much other than I'm like, you have to

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>think because there's a part where your legs are like

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 1>so beautifully crossed while you're making out on that ledge.

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Are they like going okay? Or were you guys kind

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>of just doing your thing? We were just kind of

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:57.760
<v Speaker 1>doing I'm pretty sure. And at the hands, the hands

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 1>to the yes and the hair like, so, what do

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you think when you're watching it now? Because really blushed.

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why because it was major was major beauty.

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:13.479
<v Speaker 1>They had a lot of chemistry, that's for sure, those

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:19.240
<v Speaker 1>two kids, I mean, I guess. And then the kissing

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>in the restaurant over the table, I mean, this entire

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:26.839
<v Speaker 1>episode is like Kelly and Dylan kissing. Yeah, And as

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching it, I'm like, I want them to keep kissing,

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I as a person watching the show fan, I

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>want to see more of that because I like it same. Okay,

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I have a question, what do you think would have

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>happened had Dylan and Kelly not bumped into Brenda and Reek? Like, question,

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 1>what do you think would have and should have? M

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:57.759
<v Speaker 1>m both of you? They probably well, he said come

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:01.320
<v Speaker 1>home with me, spend the night with me, Kelly, that

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.320
<v Speaker 1>that would have that would have gone They would have

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>gone home and done things. I think so too, Yeah,

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 1>things are I think it would have done it for sure,

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>which I was like, whoa, Kelly, slow your roll, like,

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 1>slow it down. I really wanted. I wrote down, whoa,

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>she's really moving fast, but she wan't. Then she says

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 1>she wants to take it slow. Yeah. So at the observatory,

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>why they're it was so weird because I was like,

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 1>what do you think is going to happen here? Like,

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not like like you guys are gonna have sex right observatory.

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>They're wait wait, wait, wait, gotta stop them, like, and

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>they're so dressed fancy. And also this is those moments

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, this is not high school, Like, no

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.479
<v Speaker 1>to high school kids go to that fancy, five star

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:48.399
<v Speaker 1>restaurant and eat Like I was thinking the same thing.

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>But then I was thinking, they're both really rich, like

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 1>they they're both comfortable with that kind of excess because

0:43:57.160 --> 0:44:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that's with the life that they've lived. And so it

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't make It didn't bother me so much that they

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.840
<v Speaker 1>were at a fancy, grown up restaurant. It was weird

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that you called it growning all grown up. It was

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 1>weird that he was wearing a tie. That was a

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>little weird. High schoolers say spend the night with me?

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>What what? What What would what would he have said? A

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:26.719
<v Speaker 1>high school kid does not say spend the night with me? Well,

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>first of all, high school kids don't have houses like

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>he has with no parents. High school kids have curfews

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:37.359
<v Speaker 1>and they have to be home by like I think

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:44.359
<v Speaker 1>twelve fifteen. Still, because like, how was Kelly spending the night?

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Like you have a mom, Like that is a question,

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 1>like you're just allowed. You would probably lie and say

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I stayed at Grinda's house or Downa's house, but the

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:57.240
<v Speaker 1>irony of that would have been But I was like, wow,

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that is really um difficult to do. When they get

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>up from the restaurant table and they're walking and kissing

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:09.839
<v Speaker 1>and walking, well, how do you that? Loo was really

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:12.879
<v Speaker 1>complicated to kind of walk straight ahead but be kiss

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 1>they at the same time. Very weird and obviously we

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.880
<v Speaker 1>knew you were going to bump into them. But also really,

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>there's four bajillion restaurants in l A, Like, come on, really,

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>but it's meant to me. It was startling, even though

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I knew it was like a chasscare, I was like,

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:32.840
<v Speaker 1>oh god, oh, I mean there was so many moments

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 1>in this episode, like there were so many just lines

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>that we're hard for me, like when he said, uh,

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.240
<v Speaker 1>the first one was like what he said to Kelly,

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.280
<v Speaker 1>we don't have to hide it anymore, And I thought,

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 1>why I'm so confused. I was so confused because I

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:56.279
<v Speaker 1>hadn't really been hiding it. I've just been like stuffing it,

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:00.839
<v Speaker 1>and he wasn't hiding anything because he was just back

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 1>with Brenda. Well, and did you notice they kissed at school?

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 1>That I was going to say that that really felt

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:12.840
<v Speaker 1>so wrong. Everybody could have seen them. Everyone could everyone

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:18.280
<v Speaker 1>was out there. It's not where was everyone? They see everything,

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:21.799
<v Speaker 1>like there's no other characters around, and it's not like

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:25.280
<v Speaker 1>the other kids in school don't know what other kids

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 1>are dating. So like, even if Brenda and Donna weren't around,

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 1>like all the other kids would have been like, did

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.799
<v Speaker 1>you just see Dolan and Kelly kissing in the quade?

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that travels fast? Does it happen that quickly? Like

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 1>less than forty eight hours? They were both like moving

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 1>on to somebody else. Yeah, because I think Donna even

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:55.240
<v Speaker 1>acknowledges that with with Brenda. Yeah she did, was Donna?

0:46:56.880 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm? All then a also then he said, well,

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>first then she says to Kelly, no, he's free to

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 1>go out with whoever he wants. But she didn't know

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 1>that she was talking about Kelly, right, and nobody says

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 1>that intending that their best friend is included in that.

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:25.879
<v Speaker 1>So I do feel for Brenda. Look, I was sort

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:30.359
<v Speaker 1>of understanding Brenda throughout this episode. She was trying to

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 1>take the high road and trying to say to Dylan, like,

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>do you you should date who you want? I'm going

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 1>to date, like this is our whole point. But I

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 1>don't think her intention was ever meaning including my best friend.

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I understood why she was so heartbroken when she bumping

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's it's one thing to say that, but

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:53.359
<v Speaker 1>then for her to find out that he was had

0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:55.760
<v Speaker 1>moved right on to anybody else would have been hurtful,

0:47:57.160 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 1>because there's difference since saying in and actually living it.

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:05.879
<v Speaker 1>But hey, yeah, for Tivy, Kelly was like, oh my god. Yeah,

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess we have to think about this.

0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 1>She's out with Rick and and Dylan acknowledges it. He

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>was the guy that gave her the tour in France,

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:20.279
<v Speaker 1>that she kissed in France, so he is also right

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 1>to be sort of irritated, like he's from because she's

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>moved on so fast. So just like Brenda is right

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:36.959
<v Speaker 1>to be hurt, so is Dylan. Yeah, but because there

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>if they're going to stand there and be so hurt,

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 1>like get back together, Like I was like, I didn't

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 1>feel for him though, like he's making himself not very vulnerable. Yeah,

0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:49.320
<v Speaker 1>he was kind of jerky about it. Yeah, what the

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:52.360
<v Speaker 1>writing is? What did you both think when he said

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 1>you broke up with me? And then Kelly was very

0:48:55.480 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 1>hurt by that. Yeah, that's like a private discussion that

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you probably don't want to have in front of your

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 1>future fling. Yeah, how rude. Yeah, and Kelly makes a

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.200
<v Speaker 1>great point when she's back at Dylan saying I feel

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 1>like second choice and he's like, you're not, but she's like,

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that. Well, what about when when they

0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:21.920
<v Speaker 1>were in the school hallway and they have their was

0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:25.640
<v Speaker 1>in the hallway where they meet up. Yeah, uh, where

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Kelly goes over to talk to Brenda, which I thought

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:35.520
<v Speaker 1>was really brave, and then then it gets heated and

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Brenda says, well, at least I wasn't like second choice

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 1>or sloppy seconds or whatever she said, And then Kelly

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:46.439
<v Speaker 1>says neither was I, And at that moment I was like, wait, yeah,

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you're early. Yeah you well, I think to me, I

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 1>understood that because he picked her over Brenda. He was

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 1>with Brenda in the summer, they weren't broken up, and

0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 1>he picked Kelly. I don't think Kelly is second choice,

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 1>but she's just the next choice. M M. I don't know.

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:14.919
<v Speaker 1>I see that made a old difference. It's painful. Like, honestly, though,

0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:23.239
<v Speaker 1>what about what about this line? Sometimes when you really

0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:27.959
<v Speaker 1>care about someone, honesty isn't always the best policy. That's

0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:32.839
<v Speaker 1>I got very upset because you automatically like bring it

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:36.359
<v Speaker 1>into your own life. You can't help not. You're like, yeah,

0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:38.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't want that. I don't want that, like and

0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:40.760
<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, it's just it's just a TV show,

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 1>not about me, but right, Yeah. But then if you

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:45.799
<v Speaker 1>think about it, like, has there ever been a time

0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:48.799
<v Speaker 1>when you were dishonest because telling the person that you

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:51.719
<v Speaker 1>care about would be so hurtful to them and have

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:57.840
<v Speaker 1>such a negative impact on them. Yeah, of course, but

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 1>when you hear it, you always think about it first,

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:03.799
<v Speaker 1>probably as like if that was done to me, But

0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 1>then if you think about it, you're like, well I've

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 1>done that. Yeah. Uh so Tori in this you have

0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 1>done like if you're everybody, what would you have done? Pressure? Yeah,

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:21.520
<v Speaker 1>like I would love to know that. And Jenny has

0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 1>like all of them once? Yeah, like should they have

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 1>told Brenda like should they like who? What is the answer? Yeah?

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the answer. Well I know, but what's

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:41.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen? But okay, so I don't know. I don't know.

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 1>But the kiss at school, going out to dinner so risky,

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:49.200
<v Speaker 1>like Peach, I don't know. It all felt really wrong.

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:52.560
<v Speaker 1>It felt like okay, too fast, right, so yeah, but

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:55.080
<v Speaker 1>so typical of our show. But so I guess I

0:51:55.120 --> 0:52:01.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, yeah, you're good, but know they're smarter

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 1>than that. Yeah, Jenny, what about you? What would you

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:08.680
<v Speaker 1>have liked to have seen if this were real life? Maybe?

0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I would have liked to see the

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:15.239
<v Speaker 1>dust settle a little bit and um, give everybody a

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:18.800
<v Speaker 1>minute to just sort of get their bearings about them

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and make choices based on on that, rather than it

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:26.440
<v Speaker 1>felt like their their choices were kind of for the

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:31.360
<v Speaker 1>wrong reasons. A little bit on Dylan's part and maybe

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 1>on Brenda's part was it weird that Brenda started literally

0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:37.880
<v Speaker 1>dating Rick right away. I mean he's over at the

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:41.520
<v Speaker 1>house picking her up and just bonding with Jim and

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Cindy and then clearly over for dinner the next night

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:46.239
<v Speaker 1>or I don't know if it was two nights, but

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>probably the next night. Do we judge that? What do

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:55.640
<v Speaker 1>we think of that? Can we call him? It was

0:52:55.719 --> 0:53:01.560
<v Speaker 1>like three words? So think about Dylan maybe brooding, but

0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:04.319
<v Speaker 1>at least he's not boring or something like Yeah, I

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:07.560
<v Speaker 1>think it's interesting that we're so critical of Dylan and Kelly.

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:11.880
<v Speaker 1>But does Brenda get a pass, like for just going

0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:14.960
<v Speaker 1>out with Rick? Like literally she's very serious with Rick.

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Ish for me, I just I love Dylan and Kelly

0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:22.880
<v Speaker 1>together so much that I wanted it to play out longer.

0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:25.839
<v Speaker 1>That you can't always get what you want and like

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 1>hiding it more and the like that they feel, and

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's getting more and more. Like maybe that kiss,

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.360
<v Speaker 1>let's say it's like happened at school, but it was

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:38.560
<v Speaker 1>like there was a worry about it, like it can't

0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 1>happen because we all know you want what you can't have,

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Like that's human nature, at least when you're young. So

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:46.839
<v Speaker 1>like as a fan, Like, I just wanted to see

0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 1>that play out a little bit more rather than Okay,

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Brenda Dylan are broken up, Okay, Kelly Dillon together. Yeah,

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:57.759
<v Speaker 1>like I wanted more time in there. Yeah, still like observatory. Fine,

0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 1>because it's just them, we can say like amongst everyone

0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:03.239
<v Speaker 1>like it. I didn't like it. I thought David was

0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:06.440
<v Speaker 1>very sweet once again to his sister. You know, he

0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:12.320
<v Speaker 1>was wearing the full Ronald McDonald outfit. Likely he loves stripes,

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>but he was very sweet. You know, he's not judging

0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:20.560
<v Speaker 1>the situation. And he really said to Kelly, like he

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:24.359
<v Speaker 1>likes you. He cares about you. Do you know you're

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 1>in the bed with the big red T shirt on?

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 1>He says, I'm thinking. Sorry, he says, I'm not sure

0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:32.160
<v Speaker 1>that's how Dylan sees it or something like that. But

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:36.240
<v Speaker 1>how does he know? That's my question? How does David?

0:54:36.320 --> 0:54:42.040
<v Speaker 1>No intuitive dude, But he's just very sweet. He's very

0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:47.239
<v Speaker 1>brotherly to Kelly now and I like the senior relationship.

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:54.600
<v Speaker 1>So then what about Dylan just taken off rebel with

0:54:54.680 --> 0:55:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a cause that pissed me off. Yeah, that just really

0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:10.200
<v Speaker 1>piss me off. Is he in next week? I'm sure you? Yeah,

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I think, so, are you sure? No, I can't remember.

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I honestly have no idea, but I would think, so,

0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 1>how can they just do that? And then I don't know,

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:23.360
<v Speaker 1>it was just so like, oh, comedia, Oh I'm just

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:24.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna take off for a while. I was like, oh,

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe he had to film something else. I don't know.

0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I was silly, but that was my instinct. I am

0:55:32.600 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 1>starting to really see the best friend nous between Brandon

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:41.279
<v Speaker 1>and Dylan, and I like that a lot because I

0:55:41.320 --> 0:55:45.560
<v Speaker 1>really have been missing that lately. You know, that's his

0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:48.719
<v Speaker 1>last stop. That's where he goes like and Brandon says,

0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 1>like you're driving out of school, like they I really

0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:54.920
<v Speaker 1>have always liked that relationship because at that point, Brandon

0:55:55.000 --> 0:56:02.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know about the Kelly Brenda the thing, doesn't noe.

0:56:03.680 --> 0:56:06.799
<v Speaker 1>That would be a conversation that they would probably need

0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:10.280
<v Speaker 1>to have mm hmm is to talk about as bros.

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, like this happen a weird moment because I

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 1>know I just watched this episode, like literally last night,

0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:24.840
<v Speaker 1>does does do Brenda and Reek bump into Kelly and Dylan?

0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 1>And then the next night Rick comes over for dinner

0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:32.080
<v Speaker 1>like she wasn't I don't think so I think you

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 1>see them. He takes her home that night, right, but

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:37.840
<v Speaker 1>then she breaks up with him. Oh, you're right. I

0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:40.480
<v Speaker 1>thought it was two different. Yeah, that is a little weird.

0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Like she goes through this trauma like as a teenager,

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I would have been in my bed with the covers

0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:48.880
<v Speaker 1>over my head for days. So she has this traumatic

0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 1>experience and then the next night he comes over for

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:56.719
<v Speaker 1>family dinner. It's kind of weird. It was really funny though,

0:56:56.719 --> 0:57:00.640
<v Speaker 1>and he was uh, they were talking about stuff no

0:57:00.680 --> 0:57:03.920
<v Speaker 1>one cares about him and Jim and then the just

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:09.319
<v Speaker 1>the look on Brenda's face was like, really cracked me

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:12.799
<v Speaker 1>up because it felt so real. I thought the whole

0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 1>scene Shannon was like a great actress because there's the crying,

0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 1>which was really good, and then he kind of goes

0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to hug her and she makes the face that is

0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the exact face you would actually make in that situation.

0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, whoa, she nailed it. So is this

0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:29.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the breakup scene? And when then we don't see

0:57:29.200 --> 0:57:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Reek anymore? Well, okay, now then I'm confused because when

0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Dean was on or at some point there was a

0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:42.360
<v Speaker 1>conversation with us that he had to do singing with Jim.

0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:44.880
<v Speaker 1>They cut it. He referenced it, So I don't know

0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:47.520
<v Speaker 1>if they cut it because it's on Amazon and they

0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:49.440
<v Speaker 1>couldn't clear the music, or if it was on the

0:57:49.480 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 1>cutting room floor, because remember he comes down the stairs

0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I never thought I would be sing

0:57:53.120 --> 0:57:56.280
<v Speaker 1>with your dad tonied like in the original airing? Was

0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that in? I don't know. I kind of feel like

0:57:58.400 --> 0:58:01.120
<v Speaker 1>there was a scene where they were both singing at

0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the piano. Yeah. I think Amazon had to cut it

0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:08.160
<v Speaker 1>because we all watched on Amazon, right Hulu hul oh,

0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I watched on Amazon. It wasn't in the Amazon either.

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 1>M weird from our crack staff is going to have

0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:19.880
<v Speaker 1>to watch it on the DVDs. Thanks to Crystal, we

0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 1>have them. I wanted to see that scene though it

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:25.360
<v Speaker 1>would have it would have been good. But then, yeah,

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:28.280
<v Speaker 1>she was just waiting downstairs for him and he was

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:32.680
<v Speaker 1>up in her dad's bedroom basically at the piano. Do

0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you think it would be a turn off like it

0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:38.520
<v Speaker 1>was to her or would you like it that your

0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:40.880
<v Speaker 1>family's bonding with the boyfriends so much because that's been

0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:45.840
<v Speaker 1>such an issue with Dylan. I feel like if she

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 1>really was into him, she would have liked it more,

0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:50.439
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think she was that into him from

0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:53.720
<v Speaker 1>the He was just ever Yeah, No, he was just

0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 1>something to fill her, a catalyst for which I also

0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:04.120
<v Speaker 1>find totally because as like a human girl, if you're like, um,

0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm in high school and the hottest dude, because like, look,

0:59:07.560 --> 0:59:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Dean Kane is a hot dude. U c l A

0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:16.600
<v Speaker 1>likes me. I think I've been into that, Like, don't

0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:18.640
<v Speaker 1>you want to be like a girl? You're some seventeen

0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:25.000
<v Speaker 1>year old fool breaking with Dylan, isn't she well that

0:59:25.520 --> 0:59:27.960
<v Speaker 1>to take away from the phone at the end when

0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:32.160
<v Speaker 1>she calls him, I felt like she was calling him

0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:35.439
<v Speaker 1>because she missed him, or she was so sad. Mm hmm.

0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Well how would you get over someone that quick? You

0:59:38.600 --> 0:59:42.360
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't after two years the love of your life so far.

0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It doesn't work like that. It's don't

0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:49.640
<v Speaker 1>you guys think this is a hot mess. It is

0:59:49.680 --> 0:59:52.840
<v Speaker 1>a hot mess. Yeah it is, and I'm there for

0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:55.520
<v Speaker 1>it and I want to know what's going to happen next.

0:59:56.920 --> 0:59:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's take a break and come back with fashion. You guys,

1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:13.880
<v Speaker 1>m m, you don't remember what's coming. I know, I

1:00:13.920 --> 1:00:17.440
<v Speaker 1>don't remember what's coming dude? What's wrong with you? Guys?

1:00:17.480 --> 1:00:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Like it's so gnarly. I don't know if it's next

1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:24.680
<v Speaker 1>week or the week after, but like, oh god, I too,

1:00:25.240 --> 1:00:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I've blocked it from my memory banks coming up, right,

1:00:29.920 --> 1:00:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that's how traumatic it is. I mean, probably some bajillion

1:00:34.680 --> 1:00:39.760
<v Speaker 1>views on YouTube that scene. It's like iconic. You know,

1:00:40.440 --> 1:00:43.120
<v Speaker 1>you know Tor and I know I do not know

1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:46.280
<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about. What's saying? How do you not know?

1:00:46.600 --> 1:00:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Because like it's like probably one of the most I

1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:53.440
<v Speaker 1>don't want to say iconic moment because it's so brutal.

1:00:54.720 --> 1:00:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I still know when you see it, you'll know you're like, oh,

1:00:57.640 --> 1:01:00.080
<v Speaker 1>of course, I just got away the things that I do.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, don't do this to me, Like I have

1:01:02.760 --> 1:01:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to do my breathing hold on the scene with Kelly

1:01:07.320 --> 1:01:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and Dylan and Brenda Yea, the one at the restaurant. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming up? Is it in the next episode? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's either next week or the week after. I mean

1:01:18.520 --> 1:01:21.680
<v Speaker 1>at the front door. This is the theory. In theory though,

1:01:22.040 --> 1:01:25.040
<v Speaker 1>think about it, Like, you guys are now together, Like

1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:28.560
<v Speaker 1>at some point, is she going to find out who

1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:31.920
<v Speaker 1>he was with over the summer. This is not bringing

1:01:32.080 --> 1:01:36.280
<v Speaker 1>anything back to Hu. I got nothingnt front door. You

1:01:36.280 --> 1:01:38.800
<v Speaker 1>guys going to walk on down the front but nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure when I see it. Wait, what about what

1:01:45.280 --> 1:01:48.040
<v Speaker 1>about that line? Uh? If it looks like a duck

1:01:48.600 --> 1:01:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and it quacks like what was if it walks like

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<v Speaker 1>a duck and talks like a duck? I was always

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<v Speaker 1>told if it walks like a duck and talks like

1:01:56.640 --> 1:02:01.360
<v Speaker 1>a duck, it's a duck. Go to hell, Go to Hell. Yeah.

1:02:01.440 --> 1:02:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I loved your go to Hell, but that if I Okay,

1:02:07.120 --> 1:02:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, why did Shannon in that moment not

1:02:09.720 --> 1:02:12.280
<v Speaker 1>say can I say something that teens really say? Like

1:02:12.960 --> 1:02:18.240
<v Speaker 1>this is a big moment, so true tory, like fight

1:02:18.320 --> 1:02:20.240
<v Speaker 1>for that, that's what you need to fight for. Like

1:02:20.680 --> 1:02:22.880
<v Speaker 1>line like that. I was literally trying to wrap my

1:02:22.880 --> 1:02:26.439
<v Speaker 1>head around it. It was so bizarre, if you see.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the most iconic line in this episode is

1:02:28.960 --> 1:02:33.280
<v Speaker 1>when Dylan says anywhere but here. Oh at the end

1:02:34.080 --> 1:02:36.479
<v Speaker 1>when he's in the school leaving after Mrs Teasley says

1:02:36.560 --> 1:02:40.000
<v Speaker 1>like he lost his case or whatever, and then someone says,

1:02:40.040 --> 1:02:43.200
<v Speaker 1>where are you going? Either you do or Brenda? Anywhere

1:02:43.240 --> 1:02:45.680
<v Speaker 1>but here? That's like icon I love it that the

1:02:46.160 --> 1:02:49.960
<v Speaker 1>writers like had the depth to make you know how

1:02:50.520 --> 1:02:54.800
<v Speaker 1>in life you you are fight or flight? Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>one or the other, you know, And they they gave

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<v Speaker 1>that character depth all the way down to that level.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a he flies, he's he hits the road when

1:03:07.480 --> 1:03:11.200
<v Speaker 1>she hits the fan. Yeah, and it tracks with the character.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what that guy would do. Yeah. I thought that

1:03:14.480 --> 1:03:18.200
<v Speaker 1>was really cool, just like acknowledging the depth of that

1:03:18.320 --> 1:03:24.400
<v Speaker 1>character that they created. I actually feel bad for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's sort of like a B story or

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<v Speaker 1>a C story whatever about the S A T thing. Yeah, same,

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<v Speaker 1>But who do you feel bad about? Oh, Dylan. I

1:03:32.520 --> 1:03:34.840
<v Speaker 1>feel bad that they don't believe him, and he wants

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<v Speaker 1>everyone to believe him, and I think that's sort of yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't believe it. But they didn't have a record

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<v Speaker 1>of him signing in. So why is that? I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>So he signed in, but they don't be he came late,

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<v Speaker 1>he signed it, and so they don't have a They

1:03:47.680 --> 1:03:51.360
<v Speaker 1>can't match the signature. I prove that it wasn't because

1:03:51.400 --> 1:03:55.280
<v Speaker 1>the just as someone faked it and took it for him,

1:03:56.360 --> 1:03:59.280
<v Speaker 1>signed an infliptence and they don't have another signature to

1:03:59.360 --> 1:04:03.880
<v Speaker 1>prove it. But like they that's just sort of a

1:04:04.160 --> 1:04:08.240
<v Speaker 1>like a secondary story, but it's brutal, like as as

1:04:08.280 --> 1:04:11.880
<v Speaker 1>that character, that's major what's happening to him with that?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that really divided Dylan and Brenda. It

1:04:18.960 --> 1:04:22.320
<v Speaker 1>seems trivial, I guess, but when you really think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a character. He's like, this is you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>my character. I don't lie, don't cheat this He kind

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<v Speaker 1>of does, but you know what, but he didn't cheat

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<v Speaker 1>on the test, so and Brenda believes him, but she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>just take the test again. Where he's saying, on principle,

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<v Speaker 1>I am a man of principle. I didn't do this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want everyone to defend me and believe me.

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<v Speaker 1>I listen, I'm a person who stands on principle a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is a lonely fight. Like you have to

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<v Speaker 1>you really need to evaluate that because your principles, at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, are not the same as

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<v Speaker 1>someone else's principles. So when you're I've realized, like when

1:05:08.200 --> 1:05:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm standing on my principles, like on my high horse,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's a lonely place you're going to fall,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going to be alone because everybody's got a

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<v Speaker 1>different principle or a different way of seeing something. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great, great point. I heard nothing you said,

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<v Speaker 1>because is there someone picking up poop in your backyard

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<v Speaker 1>right now? There's either your husband or a murderer in

1:05:33.120 --> 1:05:37.320
<v Speaker 1>your window right now, my husband. Let's hope he is

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<v Speaker 1>picking up doction. Listen, you need to run. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a question about First of all, I know I

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<v Speaker 1>need to work on that. You're not supposed to say

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question. You're supposed to just ask the question.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's my question. Did you guys see that there

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<v Speaker 1>were two Star Trek jokes in this episode? And each

1:05:56.640 --> 1:05:59.960
<v Speaker 1>one flew over my head and I should have gone back.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a Star Trek joke between David and Iron,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe because of his First of all, I just did

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<v Speaker 1>it again David and Steve Stripe. Sure, And then there

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<v Speaker 1>was a Star Trek joke. No, I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Those I didn't ever get. I still don't because not

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<v Speaker 1>a Star Trek fan. But even when Luke was doing

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<v Speaker 1>that awful impersonation of someone on Star Trek, I I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get it. But the guys, do you remember that tour?

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<v Speaker 1>They used to just they used to talk like the

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<v Speaker 1>Star Trek guys all the time. I loved imitating William

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<v Speaker 1>Shatner like it was. It was a big why it's

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<v Speaker 1>in there? Yeah yeah, maybe yeah, no way. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed Steve has finally unbuttoned know where air ties

1:06:51.160 --> 1:06:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you guys? The air time phase has maybe passed, which

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<v Speaker 1>is very exciting. I think so too, because he has

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<v Speaker 1>two scenes with a shirt unbutton noticed. Noticed, Thank god,

1:07:05.360 --> 1:07:11.240
<v Speaker 1>fashion moment for you, missy. Oh well, I love that

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly and Brenda both wear black dresses and like they

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<v Speaker 1>were just very different black dresses. I love them both,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was like, I was loving that, um you

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<v Speaker 1>know again there was more plaid. I hated Luke's too.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a platy. Right, it's really bad. I'm not fitting.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like and he and he also donned the

1:07:34.080 --> 1:07:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Canadian tuxedo a jean jacket with the if anyone could rocket,

1:07:40.640 --> 1:07:44.040
<v Speaker 1>it would be him, like I can pass. Brenda won

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<v Speaker 1>it with the opening outfit. Good. It needed like a

1:07:50.040 --> 1:07:53.200
<v Speaker 1>song to go with it, like really send it over

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<v Speaker 1>the edge. Jim in the robe. Dottie is a cutie

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a line. Dottie had like a cool, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>work dress. Um, the girls were out at work. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when I was like, hello, Dundy to tease right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>David's Ronald McDonald. I mean he was wearing bright red

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<v Speaker 1>pants and it's a right yellow shirt and then but

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<v Speaker 1>then also an umpire outfit one time, like he was

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<v Speaker 1>wearing black and white stripe. Even you were in a

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<v Speaker 1>black You were in a scene with him, and I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly felt as if you when you looked over at him,

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<v Speaker 1>you were like what are you wearing? Like I could

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<v Speaker 1>feel really like you didn't like it either. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>ever do that when you're with you, like your significant

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<v Speaker 1>other someone and you look and you're like, wow, okay, yeah,

1:09:00.680 --> 1:09:04.360
<v Speaker 1>that's the man I love. I also laughed because there's

1:09:04.360 --> 1:09:06.679
<v Speaker 1>a scene where it's Dylan in a white T shirt

1:09:06.720 --> 1:09:09.240
<v Speaker 1>with a button down over and Brandon's in a white

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<v Speaker 1>T shirt, like same stylist, like the same outfit, just different.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't bff. So boys can do it too. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh. Next week's episode, I'm really excited to see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. Next episode is season three, episode fourteen, Wild Horses.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we hang up. Yeah, are we in like party line?

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<v Speaker 1>Remember you used to call it try line when we

1:09:37.200 --> 1:09:40.760
<v Speaker 1>had landlines. This is the only part, well not the

1:09:40.800 --> 1:09:44.600
<v Speaker 1>only part, but one of the reasons Brenda made me

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<v Speaker 1>a little cookie cuckoo in this episode is when she's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Rick and she says, and he's crazy about me?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that annoying? It's almost braggy or do you guys

1:09:56.520 --> 1:09:58.960
<v Speaker 1>not care? I thought it was braggy. Well he was,

1:09:59.800 --> 1:10:04.120
<v Speaker 1>so she ain't lying. But have you ever said that, like,

1:10:05.360 --> 1:10:09.480
<v Speaker 1>especially not a teenager now, but sometimes teenagers at least nowadays,

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<v Speaker 1>like their front is very like confident, like you look great,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and you're like, oh my god, I would

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<v Speaker 1>never say that. Like teens say that all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, but do they really feel that way

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<v Speaker 1>or like it's just like they're trying something like he's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy about me? But like and then I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting. I'll take y'all, I'll let it go. When

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<v Speaker 1>there's a very subtle line when Brenda says to Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>you've known Dylan forever, what do you think? And it's

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<v Speaker 1>like interesting they wrote that in just to re iterate,

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<v Speaker 1>like we get that a lot now that like they

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<v Speaker 1>have the history and that's what's drawing them to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>which I just think is important. Yes, they do know

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<v Speaker 1>each other. I think that's the backbone of their relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there familiarity with each other and the circum Why

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<v Speaker 1>am I chopped liver? What do you mean? Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great point. Haven't I known you guys forever? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're not in the love triangle, I know. I

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<v Speaker 1>just wish she had been like, well, you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>known Dylan forever, and then Kelly's like takes it personally

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<v Speaker 1>because it's about you guys. I don't know. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just weird. I was like, I'm sure they've all gone

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<v Speaker 1>to school together, like probably the three of them. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Donna has been there the whole time as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they've said it before, but it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you and Dylan have a scene together, not anyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were in that scene when she said that, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>standing right there like right, like yeah, they knew nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And poor johnas like I was, I've been there for

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<v Speaker 1>like the last ten years, two since preschool. Cool story

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<v Speaker 1>of my life exactly, Hey guys, here us Poor Johna's

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever, whatever, catching season ten bitches. It's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna trying to get the two fifty dollars to turn

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<v Speaker 1>in whoever the hacker is. Whoa. The Feds are really

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<v Speaker 1>bringing it so fun. You guys loved it, loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's scared for the Instagram. But I'll be reading it

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<v Speaker 1>all I'm so excited to read it. I read it

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<v Speaker 1>to Amy. By the way, you guys give Amy some

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<v Speaker 1>props in love too, Like they're so nice. They make

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life literally. But more often than not, when

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<v Speaker 1>when people hate hate someone or they have a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with them, they'll say it. And people people love, there's

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<v Speaker 1>more love always, but some people say it. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you love someone, you don't always think to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just like, huh, it's great. I love it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they love you, guys, they do you know what? Amy?

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, Tori, I love you. I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Eve, Amy. What's your middle name? Amy? Oh my god, if,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I just made my day. I love you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>In the iconic words, in the iconic words of Jim Walsh,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to sleep with you. I mean sleep on it.

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<v Speaker 1>We AB's realize your initials are a s S, I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's not okay on that goodbye. People love you.