Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. How you guys,
Speaker 1: We're back for another episode of nine O two one
Speaker 1: oh MG with my bestiees Jenny Tuerman. What's up? I
Speaker 1: like that here? Yeah, you put your arms up? Wait,
Speaker 1: you guys, what is going on on our social media page?
Speaker 1: I know. I don't know if I'm more shook as
Speaker 1: the kids say, by the episode we just watched, or
Speaker 1: by the Instagram comments. It's getting hot in here, so
Speaker 1: tick off all your clothes? No sorry, wait, actually like nope, nope,
Speaker 1: I like, really it's so hot in here? Wait? So
Speaker 1: we are We have like our private group chat and
Speaker 1: it was like blowing up last night. We're going back
Speaker 1: and forth and basically we were like, Amy, welcome to
Speaker 1: our world. Like, can you do you think you can
Speaker 1: read a little bit of one of the comments? You? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I will read it because so here's I've
Speaker 1: been like all night actually like a little stressed because
Speaker 1: I really want to ask you guys something, but I'm
Speaker 1: stressed about how to ask it. What Just asking it
Speaker 1: not okay because I don't even know if you guys
Speaker 1: will be able to answer, So it might be a
Speaker 1: question for everyone listening. Okay, alright, I like it, so okay,
Speaker 1: so let me read this. I will. I will read
Speaker 1: this because I mean it's on Instagram and I do
Speaker 1: read every comment. There was someone that's like, can you
Speaker 1: really read every comment? And the one thing, I don't
Speaker 1: know how to use Instagram, so I only know how
Speaker 1: to be a voidor like I can read everything, but
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I would like just push repliment.
Speaker 1: That seems so scary. Okay, so scary, right to do it?
Speaker 1: Read it? Okay, So I'm gonna read you guys what
Speaker 1: the person wrote. And like, I also know my voice
Speaker 1: is annoying. I know that my voice. Everyone's voice is
Speaker 1: annoying to someone that is that's objective. It's like art.
Speaker 1: I've annoyed her with my voice for thirty years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? I see I don't find your
Speaker 1: voice annoying. I've annoyed myself with my own voice all
Speaker 1: these years as well. I mean, to be fair, your
Speaker 1: your voice is pretty like neutral and decent. Yeah, your
Speaker 1: voice am like you both have you get excited, you're passionate,
Speaker 1: Like that's being said, you have annoying voice because she
Speaker 1: isn't like what you're saying, you both have television voices.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've done voiceovers. You guys are professionals. My
Speaker 1: voice is annoying and I but I have heard from
Speaker 1: a lot of people. So you guys are like my friends.
Speaker 1: So you're being nice many people. I'm being nice. That's
Speaker 1: in my wheelhouse. I'm being honest. That's the one thing
Speaker 1: she will tell it like it is like honestly, like
Speaker 1: you're a producer, but we have you on every week
Speaker 1: because you're an uber fan. You have great perspective, and
Speaker 1: her voice was annoying. We wouldn't want you to be
Speaker 1: like I mean, I think you'd be as tolerated or
Speaker 1: you're used to it. But because a lot of people
Speaker 1: are like, why are you yelling at me? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is just a speaking voice. Okay. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: read this and I'm not reading it to like like
Speaker 1: call the person out or like to my own I
Speaker 1: have an actual question about this. And I spent an
Speaker 1: hour and a half thinking about this last night. So
Speaker 1: what the person wrote was well, first they wrote, Amy
Speaker 1: should listen how annoying her own voices? Which respect it
Speaker 1: is all too maybe like take classes. Maybe I can
Speaker 1: do something. But then she said before she makes fun
Speaker 1: of Brenda's voice, I wasn't actually making fun of Brenda's voice.
Speaker 1: I was trying to like do a character. But whatever,
Speaker 1: stop dissing she Annon. It's really not cool. You're like
Speaker 1: a middle school or trying to kiss up to the
Speaker 1: popular girl to like you. You are the one making
Speaker 1: such a big deal over Kelly and Brenda. Stop putting
Speaker 1: a wedge between them even more than there is one.
Speaker 1: We would all love to see everyone get along. Shannon
Speaker 1: is way cooler than you would ever be. So here's
Speaker 1: my question for you guys. And I'm being totally serious.
Speaker 1: Like I I was a little word, I would cry,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna not cry. Why would people, and this
Speaker 1: is not the only person, Why would people assume just
Speaker 1: because I don't like Brenda that I don't like Shannon.
Speaker 1: Because they have a lot of uber Fans have a
Speaker 1: really hard time distinguishing between the characters and actors that
Speaker 1: played them, which I mean, it's why we love them
Speaker 1: so much is because they grew up a this show.
Speaker 1: They feel like it was part of their lives. They
Speaker 1: feel like, in a way it was their friends. Like
Speaker 1: so it's hard to distinguish it. So she's just an
Speaker 1: uber fan and she is like, wow, you sugarman, you're
Speaker 1: officially in the nineties and West Beverly and you're in
Speaker 1: our school. You should be walking up and down the hallway, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and that's what we said last night in the text.
Speaker 1: We were like, welcome to being a celeb, like welcome
Speaker 1: being the public eye, welcome to fame. Like everybody's going
Speaker 1: to either build you up or knock you down. So
Speaker 1: you've got to decide what you want to focus on.
Speaker 1: But to answer your question, yeah, I mean, that's part
Speaker 1: of the reason why Tory and I went the b
Speaker 1: h N O two in a direction was because there's
Speaker 1: such a blur between the real people and the characters
Speaker 1: on this specific show more than I don't know, more
Speaker 1: than so many other shows. What I was gonna say, Okay,
Speaker 1: so you guys, I and I really take these comments
Speaker 1: to heart, Like I don't. I try not to cry.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I do, but for the most part, I really
Speaker 1: want to learn from it because more than just like
Speaker 1: getting to be on the air with you guys, I'm
Speaker 1: the producer, so it's my job to read those things
Speaker 1: and take into account. So I really thought hard, like,
Speaker 1: is there another example I could give of like a
Speaker 1: character I don't like? And I was like, if I
Speaker 1: could even think of a person where I'm friends with
Speaker 1: the person even though I don't like. Okay, And I
Speaker 1: tried so hard because all I could come up with
Speaker 1: is like I loved Aiden on Sex in the City,
Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean I didn't like any of the
Speaker 1: other boyfriends, or like, I, okay, here's my best one,
Speaker 1: here's my best wife. I am team Logan. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys know what that means, but it's
Speaker 1: from Gilmore Girls and Rory had three boyfriends, Jess, Dean,
Speaker 1: and Logan, and I am full team Logan. But no
Speaker 1: one's ever been like, why do you hate my log
Speaker 1: and Amelia. I think that's a guy girl thing. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think that that that you're talking about referencing guy characters.
Speaker 1: What this person's got the beef with is with girl characters.
Speaker 1: And especially that part of their comment that was like
Speaker 1: why do you continue to drive a wedge between them
Speaker 1: something of that nature? Right, That was very fascinating because
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think you are driving a wedge
Speaker 1: between anyone. And also while I'm on it. Uh the
Speaker 1: part about you sucking up to the popular girls. Hello,
Speaker 1: Amy is our producer, she is our boss. If anybody
Speaker 1: should be sucking up, it's us sucking up to her.
Speaker 1: Let's do it right now. I love you, Amy, I
Speaker 1: love your voice. Oh my god. If we want our
Speaker 1: show to go on forever and ever, we come on.
Speaker 1: And I'm actually not like to me, I'm so glad
Speaker 1: we're talking about it, and I'm like sweating because I
Speaker 1: don't want this person waiting for you to think I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not criticizing them. I accept the comment, and I
Speaker 1: really want to understand because I don't like Brenda. Like
Speaker 1: even when we talk about this episode in the beginning
Speaker 1: half of the episode, I was like, Brenda, she looks
Speaker 1: amazing and this and this, and then she turns and
Speaker 1: I had to write, see Brenda's annoying, Like the fact
Speaker 1: that Brenda dumped Reek like that was annoying. And that's
Speaker 1: the prevalent storyline right now. Of course you're going to
Speaker 1: be hyper focused on talking about that storyline. And the
Speaker 1: reason they wrote it that way is they want it
Speaker 1: like you're supposed to choose, so you're supposed to invest
Speaker 1: in it, that's and they get point of it. So
Speaker 1: we're happy that you have your opinion, and we're happy
Speaker 1: that this person has their opinion because that's why the
Speaker 1: people love the show exactly. But it is so interesting
Speaker 1: that she relines blur turned it to that, why don't
Speaker 1: you like Shannon? Yeah, which is not Shannon as a person.
Speaker 1: Maybe I've met Shannon one time, if one time, But
Speaker 1: the thing is, like my job, I'm friends with Shannon's publicist,
Speaker 1: Like that's my friends is the person's person? Do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I book Shannon anytime she
Speaker 1: wants anything, anywhere, anytime, whenever she needs anything, and she
Speaker 1: may know that, but like her publicist, I would, I
Speaker 1: don't even so that. I mean, it's kind of cool
Speaker 1: that you probably never have this perspective. You're on the
Speaker 1: flip side. You're dealing with celebrities, but there are people
Speaker 1: behind the scenes making it work because she's a producer.
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, you're hyper focus. You're
Speaker 1: in the limelight and everyone's like talking about you, and
Speaker 1: now you know, like, oh my god, all these years,
Speaker 1: this is what all these celebrities are talking about. Remember
Speaker 1: Jamie Walters, Yes, like he lost his career because and people,
Speaker 1: he said, people would come up to him in the street.
Speaker 1: He played Raid Pruett Donna Martin pushed her down the
Speaker 1: stairs and spoiler sorry season five for example, and people
Speaker 1: were like, why would you do that to Johnna and
Speaker 1: like slap him. He's like, Amy, I don't wait, they
Speaker 1: slapped him. You guys slapped in public one fan. Wow,
Speaker 1: poor guy. That's so interesting. That's a great example because
Speaker 1: I was trying so hard to think of a character
Speaker 1: that I don't like but that I love the actor.
Speaker 1: But I'm having a hard time like thinking of one
Speaker 1: like I feel like we spent enough time talking about
Speaker 1: this quite honestly, I'm sure everyone else because but but
Speaker 1: but having said that, please keep commenting because it's fascinating, entertaining.
Speaker 1: It makes Amy cry of Thimes. I laugh and like,
Speaker 1: I like, I do text these guys, and I because
Speaker 1: I texted you guys the other morning, like superly, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, they're they care, like they care they're commenting.
Speaker 1: So to me, it's like shocking that it's not just
Speaker 1: the three of us that hear each other like that.
Speaker 1: Somebody takes a power out of their week to listen
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my gosh, so many people in our podcast,
Speaker 1: you guys, and I love those comments because, yeah, it
Speaker 1: gets people through their week. It gives them something to
Speaker 1: look forward to. They they feel like they know us,
Speaker 1: and kind of they do. So it's like we're all
Speaker 1: hanging out, laughing together, and that's what's so great of
Speaker 1: this is a conversation we're all having about our show,
Speaker 1: a favorite show, and like it's just a good time.
Speaker 1: So let's keep it positive people. I also love if
Speaker 1: someone hates it but listens, Like if you hate it, like, um,
Speaker 1: Ben Affleck had a terrible movie. It's called like deep
Speaker 1: Water in the Water something, and I hate watching it
Speaker 1: because I'm like, this is such a bad movie that
Speaker 1: I need to watch it all the way to the end.
Speaker 1: Like I love Ben Affleck, but it is a bad movie.
Speaker 1: So also if you're like I hate them, like, let
Speaker 1: us know what My question is. I wonder if shows
Speaker 1: now with the new generation, when they watch shows, if
Speaker 1: they blend characters and actors or if that's kind of
Speaker 1: generational actor like question the eighties and nineties and early
Speaker 1: two thousands, I don't know, you know what's crazy. There's okay,
Speaker 1: First of all public apology. Uh, we have a fan.
Speaker 1: Her name is Crystal. I called her Crystal because I
Speaker 1: don't know, I've never heard the word Crystal. I've never
Speaker 1: heard that name anyway. Sorry, Crystal, I love you. But
Speaker 1: on some you know, public platforms, she was out it
Speaker 1: and like made ridiculed for being such a fan. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: something something happened. I don't know the specifics, but there
Speaker 1: was some involvement with the nine to one. Oh Bro
Speaker 1: came to her defense. This is all stuff that I've
Speaker 1: heard from my husband because he hears it at the
Speaker 1: Douglas where Crystal visits at his restaurant all the time.
Speaker 1: So they she was sharing with him that uh, some
Speaker 1: some crazy stuff like that had gone down where people somebody,
Speaker 1: some specific person I'm not sure who it was, was
Speaker 1: um telling her she was an idiot or something for
Speaker 1: thinking of them. Yeah, the thinking that we cared about
Speaker 1: her because I guess you know, maybe she sent the
Speaker 1: DVD collection and they were like you and you thank
Speaker 1: her because you love her and if we desperately needed it.
Speaker 1: But what a jerk that person is to be like
Speaker 1: what they're like, you're a loser because you love nine
Speaker 1: O'TO one oh, like you don't. You don't you know,
Speaker 1: you don't give famous people presents. They don't care. You
Speaker 1: know what I think it's really about. They're kind of
Speaker 1: jelly that she actually does have a connection with us personally, yea,
Speaker 1: specifically you. That's we just d we at his restaurant.
Speaker 1: Like I have to ask Daron Martin about this, because now,
Speaker 1: of course he would come to Christ's defense, right anyway,
Speaker 1: I don't know this and Christmas and like, wow, I'm
Speaker 1: going to come on in now. We needed the DVDs.
Speaker 1: We do, we use them, so thanks Christine's. It's really interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean I I say that like in all seriousness,
Speaker 1: like it really is. I don't mock it. I'm not
Speaker 1: judging it because I care about every single comment. I
Speaker 1: told you, guys, yesterday, I was having this conversation with
Speaker 1: a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, like this guy is super smart,
Speaker 1: way smarter than me, and he was talking about something
Speaker 1: and I mentioned you guys. I mean he freaked out,
Speaker 1: and so it's like everybody likes nine out two and O,
Speaker 1: like this guy is, wait, tell us more about how
Speaker 1: he freaked out about it. So I was using it
Speaker 1: as an example because he's working on this project for us,
Speaker 1: totally different. And I said, blah blah blah, like when
Speaker 1: I talked to Torri and Jenny and he's like it
Speaker 1: was like record screech. He goes, what And I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you mocking me? He was joking. He goes, you know,
Speaker 1: Tory Spelling and Jenny Garth and I'm like yeah, He's like,
Speaker 1: is there anyway you could get me their autograph? Like what?
Speaker 1: Was like, you guys, this guy is well, we're very
Speaker 1: very popular with the Pulitzer Prisers were people journalists that
Speaker 1: writes for like NPR, like like people stuff like he
Speaker 1: writes about like probably like Wars. And I'm like this
Speaker 1: time when we were talking about Kelly versus Brenda, so
Speaker 1: he said, I get you an autograph? Like yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you joking with me? Like I thought
Speaker 1: he was pulling my leg. He's like, I had the
Speaker 1: sideburns like Brandon. I grew up with my sister watching
Speaker 1: this like super fan and so kind and so smart
Speaker 1: and had like the most smart thoughts about the rees.
Speaker 1: Should we have him on one? We should get his
Speaker 1: opinion on Kelly asked him, he is team Kelly. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie, but he had wonderful things to say
Speaker 1: about Brenda. But he I said, is there any chance
Speaker 1: you and your sister would come on? So he's asking
Speaker 1: his sister and then I'll let you guys know. It
Speaker 1: was so fun, crazy crazy. Yeah, Okay, we are going
Speaker 1: to dive in to season three episode thirteen, Rebel with
Speaker 1: a Cause, aired on November eleven. Wait for it, the
Speaker 1: longest synopsis ever. Steve stays close to Andreae, now confined
Speaker 1: to a wheelchair with two broken legs, who was keeping
Speaker 1: on top of the fed's investigation at the school break
Speaker 1: and of the school break, and he fears that she
Speaker 1: may find out his criminal secret. Steve gets more worried
Speaker 1: when the sleazy school janitor Hutchens demands more black Man
Speaker 1: mind to keep quiet about Steve's copy of the Master Key. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Brenda now dan Riek, freaks out when she sees Dylan
Speaker 1: dating Kelly. Dylan gets bad news regarding his abilable let's
Speaker 1: say t score, His frustration peaks, and he hits the road, shocking.
Speaker 1: Jim's dull work life gets a lift by Dot Dot
Speaker 1: Dot Dot What Okay, Don't? Directed by Daniel Addius, written
Speaker 1: by Star Froman, Chris Broncotto, Kenneth Biller, Chip Johansson, and
Speaker 1: some say Darren Starr. Did you see that comment that
Speaker 1: they say that Darren Star maybe didn't really write them.
Speaker 1: He just has his name on everything exactly, or we're
Speaker 1: looking at the wrong source, but I think his name.
Speaker 1: He probably gets a writing credit on everything, whether he
Speaker 1: actually wrote it or off. Some of the episodes, of course,
Speaker 1: but some say his name and some don't. But this one,
Speaker 1: just like on air said Star Froman. Well, apparently she
Speaker 1: had a little help. Okay, I don't know, like rewrites.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's what it happened. This was a big episode.
Speaker 1: There were so many storylines going on, Like I was
Speaker 1: all over the place. Did you like the episode? You
Speaker 1: guys mean what I did? But I felt like I
Speaker 1: felt like there was too much going on, Like I
Speaker 1: wanted to see more of They focus just me, team Brenda,
Speaker 1: team Kelly. Let's stay on that storyline. Sorry, I got excited.
Speaker 1: Hit my mic like I'm sorry because it's such a
Speaker 1: good storyline when it goes to like Steve, where it
Speaker 1: goes to Andrea or you know, I'm just not I'm
Speaker 1: like no, no, hurry, hurry, and then sorry, sorry, Jen Earms,
Speaker 1: and then Jim Walsh. I'm like, I thought that I
Speaker 1: have to say, let's talk about Dottie first, because the
Speaker 1: scene with Mr and Mrs Walsh and Brandon discussing Dottie
Speaker 1: and him's no chance with Dottie. I was laughing out loud,
Speaker 1: like I thought that was it was cute between the
Speaker 1: two of them, but I felt like it was really
Speaker 1: weird when Brandon just walks into the foyer and starts
Speaker 1: to objectify this grown woman in his doorway, Like, who
Speaker 1: what young man talks to a grown woman like that?
Speaker 1: Cindy Crawford, So it must be the Ears what so
Speaker 1: pol Tricky, Pol Tricky who played Dottie? Um, I don't like.
Speaker 1: I don't think I met her even then, but went
Speaker 1: on to be like friends with her later in life,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like she was at my first wedding
Speaker 1: in my first husband and yeah, and we've lost touches.
Speaker 1: He's coming on with us, we're trying to work it out,
Speaker 1: we're talking to it. Okay. Wait, So I am obsessed
Speaker 1: because the other nine oton Ho podcast, Pete Ferrarrow was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, there's some crazy story that Pol Tricky tells.
Speaker 1: Do you remember. I was like, no, it's shocking what
Speaker 1: we're going to hear that? She actually come on, but
Speaker 1: she had a dentist appointment today or like an appointment,
Speaker 1: and so were you just working out the schedule? Oh good,
Speaker 1: it's gonna get juicy something to look forward to people.
Speaker 1: She is lovely. So I'm sorry, I mean, you want
Speaker 1: to talk about that Dottie line. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I believe Jim. Honestly, I think it's just me,
Speaker 1: but I'm a little jaded. But when when Jim professes that, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, when I'm at work, all I think about
Speaker 1: is work in my family. Right, So, do you think
Speaker 1: Jim had that little fantasy about Dottie because Mrs Walsh
Speaker 1: put it in his head. No, No, you think he's
Speaker 1: been He's kind of like he's not going to do anything,
Speaker 1: but we think he's got the hots for dots. Well,
Speaker 1: now maybe he doesn't have the hots for but he's
Speaker 1: not blind. Yeah, exactly, he's a man like. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It just made me a little upset with
Speaker 1: my main man. But it was redeemed. All was redeemed
Speaker 1: when I saw him in the blue robe. With its
Speaker 1: jes hair smoking out. Oh, I can't what fringiest line
Speaker 1: was when he's like, sleep with you, I mean sleep
Speaker 1: on it. I was like, it was so good. I
Speaker 1: was getting real mad. I was like, what is Donnie
Speaker 1: moving it on? My man? I was getting so mad
Speaker 1: for the lines blurred Tory, what do you think of
Speaker 1: Dottie and Jim? Do you think it's platonic? Yeah? But
Speaker 1: I think it could go somewhere. But does it? I
Speaker 1: don't remember now? Oh, I mean we'll see. I liked
Speaker 1: this scene. I feel like the story Paul Tricky has
Speaker 1: is regarding Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so too. Remember
Speaker 1: that's my excited You're gonna be so excited that day.
Speaker 1: I liked it because I loved seeing Jim and Cindy interact.
Speaker 1: I think they have such a real they they seem married,
Speaker 1: the way he says, what's the matter, honey, And you know,
Speaker 1: it just seemed the way that was written. The whole
Speaker 1: thing about it was just really good. I had a
Speaker 1: hard time listening because I was so distracted by her
Speaker 1: plaid suit while she's making the fried chicken. Um who
Speaker 1: wears a plaid sigurt? I mean suit, full suit jacket,
Speaker 1: and no little shorts, a little take the jacket off.
Speaker 1: The jack off. If you're gonna get grease splattered on it,
Speaker 1: come on, that's going to ruin that, I know. And
Speaker 1: then she wears it for the rest of the episode. Well,
Speaker 1: Jim is in a row, he's in a different outfit.
Speaker 1: He comes like, I wonder if it just smells the food,
Speaker 1: and then he put after shave on. Let's go to
Speaker 1: iron first, because we want to save the best for
Speaker 1: the middle. I mean, it's kind of juicy and dramatic,
Speaker 1: but kind of dumb. Part which part which hacker and
Speaker 1: they is on the case? Do the fans really come
Speaker 1: to investigate? The synopsis there through me because it said
Speaker 1: that the Feds were investigating this. Maybe back then it
Speaker 1: was a big deal. They had the time apparently to
Speaker 1: come to school investigate the Wow. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was really into Hutchins. Yeah, a good character actor,
Speaker 1: Like what was he and you know he probably was
Speaker 1: in something back in the Yeah, you're talking about the janitor, right, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could have watched him for a while. So here's
Speaker 1: my question. I mean, what a bad dude the janitor is? Right,
Speaker 1: like that is essentially a teacher at the school and
Speaker 1: he is blackmailing a child. Is he a teacher? He's
Speaker 1: not a teacher. I mean, I consider anyone that works
Speaker 1: in a school is like some sort of faculty, yeah, authority,
Speaker 1: and he's like literally blackmailing a kid. It's so that
Speaker 1: guy's shockingly evil for nine O two one, oh, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that's a reister. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just I was surprised he took a hundred bucks.
Speaker 1: I was surprised he didn't want more. It was like,
Speaker 1: I know, he's like we're good for a now or whatever.
Speaker 1: I was like. Then he then he wised up and
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, I see I can get some
Speaker 1: more money. It's so inappropriate and like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't buy it, but like, okay, I can suspend
Speaker 1: whatever disbelief. Is that what they say? I kind of
Speaker 1: appreciate the effort of putting making another storyline, so like, um,
Speaker 1: what cereal? Like it goes from episode episode episode like
Speaker 1: it builds, but how much more? What's gonna is somebody
Speaker 1: going to go to jail? The feaser there? What's going
Speaker 1: to happen? Like is it does it keep going? I
Speaker 1: don't know, well and we have the drama of the legacy,
Speaker 1: but she secretly means, is I hope it ends next?
Speaker 1: I hope a done? Please tell how many more episodes?
Speaker 1: And the Brandon knows, Brandon knows. Brandon's like, dude, I
Speaker 1: know this is like a series arc now, like why
Speaker 1: and then Andrea wheeling around in a wheelchair. I can't
Speaker 1: put the lengths straight out. That's really gotta be awkward.
Speaker 1: Getting the do look so hard Because you told me
Speaker 1: that story last week, I was like, do I see
Speaker 1: the feet? Do? I seem like is it a cast?
Speaker 1: And it was just a blank at this time. I
Speaker 1: don't know. So now though, it is starting to make
Speaker 1: sense why Iron said to you Tori the legacy key
Speaker 1: was such a major thing because I think he considers
Speaker 1: the legacy key this entire yep. Seeing that now, yeah,
Speaker 1: makes sense, makes sense. Done in David, Uh, I didn't
Speaker 1: have a lot to do in this episode. They were
Speaker 1: just kind of like in and out, in and out,
Speaker 1: but still together. They moved the storyline along a lot.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, I didn't there was not anything meat there
Speaker 1: for them this week. I didn't feel like and Donna's
Speaker 1: so interesting. I was thinking about this story because with
Speaker 1: the Kelly Brenda like all that. It's like Donna really
Speaker 1: throughout the series is the peacemaker, the you know, she
Speaker 1: really is trying to you know, the therapist of the group,
Speaker 1: kind of trying to keep everybody. I don't know what
Speaker 1: what the word is for that PTSD. I mean because
Speaker 1: in real life, like it was a little bit of
Speaker 1: that too, like when there would be like offset but
Speaker 1: still on set friction between Jen and Shannon because you
Speaker 1: know we've discussed before we were all friends. They were friends,
Speaker 1: but they too strong personalities and when things would happen
Speaker 1: to areas women, you know, it would and I would
Speaker 1: just be like, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay,
Speaker 1: like still like me kind of thing. So it's very Donna,
Speaker 1: very telling. Also what you just said referring back to
Speaker 1: the person that blends Shannon and Brenda, because you all
Speaker 1: do two in some ways, I think we might have
Speaker 1: been more obviously art imitates life imitates art type of
Speaker 1: deal a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it always felt
Speaker 1: like we were we were with Shannon, not Brenda when
Speaker 1: we were off camera, like it never that, Okay. I
Speaker 1: guess my question would be for Jenny, it's like it
Speaker 1: was hard for you now and over the course of
Speaker 1: the Kelly versus Brenda. You know, I'm team Brenda, and
Speaker 1: it made you feel bad. So does it, Like we
Speaker 1: talked about this this week, it bleeds. So maybe maybe
Speaker 1: you never would have had friction with Shannon if the
Speaker 1: storylines would have been different. I don't know. Maybe not.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because maybe it's inside your body's like
Speaker 1: like you said, you you girls are against each other,
Speaker 1: that's what you're supposed to do, Like yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 1: maybe it infiltrates, Like I don't I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: being like, maybe we need a therapist. Maybe because we
Speaker 1: were so young and like and so impressionable at that age,
Speaker 1: maybe it did have a deeper impact on us than
Speaker 1: either of us really recognized or want to recognize. Really,
Speaker 1: it's like if someone tells you you're mean, You're mean,
Speaker 1: you two times your friend, you two times your friend.
Speaker 1: You did this, you did this, you did this, you
Speaker 1: did this. At some point you go, I did this.
Speaker 1: I'm a bad person. Yeah, this is gonna go in
Speaker 1: the backyard and eat some worms. Like I suck. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, Kelly sucks. But right, but Okay, you said
Speaker 1: I sunk and you don't. But Kelly's I don't think
Speaker 1: she's like but it blurs, it blurs, blurs, it burns,
Speaker 1: it blurs. I don't know, Like Tori, did you ever
Speaker 1: have that same experience maybe with the being the virgin
Speaker 1: or if Donna was the good girl, if Tori Spelling
Speaker 1: was being more of a bad girl, did it mix
Speaker 1: you up? Now? It's interest fair, No, I mean it
Speaker 1: is a part. I mean third season, all the characters
Speaker 1: are getting really highly infused in some way with the
Speaker 1: actual actors. I feel like, m hm, and it's coming
Speaker 1: out more. There's more freedom, I think two okay for
Speaker 1: safety in the job. Now we're relaxed. People are just
Speaker 1: being themselves a little bit more. And yeah, there was
Speaker 1: a few times watching this episode that when I saw
Speaker 1: Shannon playing Brenda, I was like, that felt more Shannon
Speaker 1: then Brenda. There was just a couple of moments and
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm seeing it come out. I
Speaker 1: could see it. Mh. Wow. Well let's take a good break,
Speaker 1: you guys. I think we should take a break and
Speaker 1: come back and continue on m First of all, how
Speaker 1: hot was Brenda in her opening scene when she walks
Speaker 1: into the school in the boostier with her hair all
Speaker 1: like fell had that hat. She looked like hot mama,
Speaker 1: Like what a voie? Her hair is amazing, amazing hair.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, always that outfit. I just kept staring at it,
Speaker 1: like I got distracted. It was distracting. But Donna was
Speaker 1: wearing the cutest outfit that totally was stylish today. The
Speaker 1: crop top vest was short, like it was like very
Speaker 1: fashionable today. What are you wearing khakis? It was like
Speaker 1: that commercial. Yeah, she's in khaki and to thigh. You
Speaker 1: know when you get like when you're in a breakup
Speaker 1: and it's like when you get a divorce or whatever,
Speaker 1: you want to look extra hot, like right, and you're
Speaker 1: really after it. Like I knew that. I felt that
Speaker 1: coming in strong and she was like, I'm gonna look
Speaker 1: good in this episode because I need to like show
Speaker 1: him or show them or something, you know. So I
Speaker 1: have one technical question that I thought was really interesting
Speaker 1: about the episode. I think Tori and Brenda, sorry Donna
Speaker 1: and Brenda. See I didn't even flinch, Like, Okay, Donna
Speaker 1: and Brenda are walking and you're walking, you know, through
Speaker 1: the school yard or whatever, and then you walk into
Speaker 1: the classroom, and then it was this really cool segue
Speaker 1: right to Ian and David and I know from the
Speaker 1: West Wing they call it like a walk and talk.
Speaker 1: It's like one shot, so you would not be complicated
Speaker 1: to do, right, do you remember that at all? Like
Speaker 1: you can't mess it up or you screwed them? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I feel like we hated those We were like taken
Speaker 1: so long because they would probably do it like fifty
Speaker 1: million times because there's so many moving parts. There's like wait, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm backtracking, not really, but Jen, like if you're out
Speaker 1: somewhere you just hear someone randomly say Kelly, do you
Speaker 1: turn around? Oh great question? Um, first I get scared.
Speaker 1: I kind of get like nervous and the hunch of
Speaker 1: my shoulders up a little, and then I had to
Speaker 1: be invisible. Like do you ever feel that feeling of
Speaker 1: like if I just hold really still, it'll go away.
Speaker 1: It'll they won't It won't be about me. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't want the attention, you're like, because sometimes people sometimes
Speaker 1: people will do that just to like prove that I am. Like,
Speaker 1: they'll yell out Kelly just to see I do react,
Speaker 1: because if I do react, then it's really me. But
Speaker 1: a lot of the time, they're not talking about me
Speaker 1: at all. They're just talking to somebody else named Kelly.
Speaker 1: But I but first, like gut, it's like when someone says, mom,
Speaker 1: you always turn it's not your kid, like, so I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like, if you just hear like Kellarie, like
Speaker 1: for just a second, even in your head, like do
Speaker 1: you do you? Oh, if someone says Donna anywhere and
Speaker 1: they're just like, it's a girl named Donna, I always
Speaker 1: like I'll respond to Tory Donna mom, like what I like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I turn around. Yeah, it's definitely something that perks are
Speaker 1: ears up and you're like, okay, yeah, you guys, this
Speaker 1: is crazy pisis because we're proving our own points. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, where geniuses like we I mean surprise. So
Speaker 1: I guess we need to start with Jenny, who who that? Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to know how you were feeling last night
Speaker 1: or this morning whenever you watched it right after, like
Speaker 1: how your body felt, like how you're emotional. Not Kelly,
Speaker 1: but like Jenny Garth. I had so much anxiety watching
Speaker 1: this episode, like physical shortness of breath, like someone is
Speaker 1: sitting on my chest, that kind of feeling. I was
Speaker 1: so nervous and just like I just have notes all
Speaker 1: over my favorite I have anxiety, I have anxiety, I
Speaker 1: have any But it got me going, like I was,
Speaker 1: it was stressful and I'm and it was it was
Speaker 1: something so sweet and beautiful about it, but then there
Speaker 1: was something so ugly and embarrassing and and like what
Speaker 1: I don't want to ever be and I doesn't want
Speaker 1: to see Kelly having to be in that position or Brenda.
Speaker 1: It was just really messed up, just so messed up.
Speaker 1: And also I felt like this guy he might be real,
Speaker 1: real cute, but is he really worth this, like destroying
Speaker 1: a friendship or and also the way he's acting like
Speaker 1: it didn't seem to matter to him, and the way
Speaker 1: he leaves m hmm, it's just what he does, right,
Speaker 1: he walks out cowardly. It's just cowardly. And it started
Speaker 1: like as a woman, Yeah, I really recognized how lost
Speaker 1: a mix up in this emotion. These two girls were
Speaker 1: about a guy who really didn't deserve it. Oh, Heavy Tory,
Speaker 1: what about you? I mean I'd love to ask you
Speaker 1: the same question, how you felt like as the credits rolled,
Speaker 1: so I've been like truly invested, you know, obviously I
Speaker 1: used to. Like back the day, I was always like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, like Brenda and Dylan, they were an
Speaker 1: ultimate couple, like I want that when I get older.
Speaker 1: And then rewatching it, I was like, you know what
Speaker 1: they had, they just weren't meant to be. Maybe they
Speaker 1: were like on some level soulmates some but not this lifetime,
Speaker 1: not meant to be or right now, maybe somewhere down
Speaker 1: the road, um, but you know. And then Kelly and Dylan,
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, yes, yes, So I just love
Speaker 1: them together. I love the chemistry, I love everything about them.
Speaker 1: This week, I had a hard time staying focused on
Speaker 1: the storyline because I was so I felt nervous every
Speaker 1: scene I was taken out because I felt nervous for
Speaker 1: gents reaction. To be honest, for my reaction. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: the discuss I really did. Each time I was like, oh, man, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was hard to She's not going to be happy
Speaker 1: about this, She's that this is gonna hurt her soul. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was hard. It was hard for me to watch.
Speaker 1: One of the conversations, Tory, that's very interesting you brought
Speaker 1: that up. One of the conversations going on on social
Speaker 1: is are you seeing it differently as you're rewatching it,
Speaker 1: like these guys watching are saying back then in the
Speaker 1: nineties they were team Brenda and watching it now they
Speaker 1: are team Kelly. And I'm sure the reverse is true too.
Speaker 1: So Jenny, for you, when you were doing it, what
Speaker 1: was your experience versus now watching it? Like, when you
Speaker 1: were doing it, did you feel any of the things
Speaker 1: you're feeling now? It was just true what you're probably feeling.
Speaker 1: Other things like not not related to this topic. I was.
Speaker 1: I mean when I was working with Luke, when we
Speaker 1: were shooting those scenes, like the scenes at the observatory,
Speaker 1: which I had totally forgotten about, amazing classic scene. Um
Speaker 1: I was. I could tell. I could remember how special
Speaker 1: that time was and how um good it felt to
Speaker 1: be working just with him and for he and I
Speaker 1: to be to get to have that time together. I
Speaker 1: remember really loving, right, did you, because can you remember
Speaker 1: it all? Like you must have had multiple days up
Speaker 1: there just the two of you, because none of the
Speaker 1: rest of the cast was there or would have been there.
Speaker 1: It would just be you guys with the crew because
Speaker 1: that was the Griffith absorbing observatory. That was it, which
Speaker 1: is thus Rebel with a Cause, because in Rebel Without
Speaker 1: a Cause with James Dean, there was a big observatory Natalie, what, oh,
Speaker 1: that's great knowledge, Tori. I didn't realize that. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was just what it felt like time was standing like
Speaker 1: time was standing still when we were doing that stuff,
Speaker 1: like it was like frozen and I had forgotten all
Speaker 1: about it, and now watching it, I remember how it felt.
Speaker 1: And it was all the things. It was good and
Speaker 1: bad and confusing and exciting and terrifying and you know,
Speaker 1: but then there was also that like the factor reality
Speaker 1: of going and doing the scene in the restaurant where
Speaker 1: Kelly and Dylan are are having a weird dessert moment,
Speaker 1: like what what was happening with that chocolate mouse? The
Speaker 1: history of why she eat she can't have a bite
Speaker 1: of dessert? Oh I shouldn't girl eat the dessert. And
Speaker 1: then you go a tiny bit and he literally gave
Speaker 1: you like like a pin dot. Oh my gosh. That
Speaker 1: means that makes me think like it would have been
Speaker 1: so luke to like smashing your face. But we're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just just kidding. And then you guys would like
Speaker 1: be like happy um or actually you would, you would
Speaker 1: have done that first, right, But if there was just
Speaker 1: a pin dot, I feel like, was he giving you
Speaker 1: too much? At first? I wonder if there was like
Speaker 1: some like something back and forth like can you not
Speaker 1: give me so much food? I'm trying I have to
Speaker 1: talk like why. He probably thought it was funny, probably,
Speaker 1: and then finally he's like, ok ok wait before the drama,
Speaker 1: when you watch yourself with that really like beautiful, amazing
Speaker 1: shot with l A behind you, and you guys must
Speaker 1: have been kissing for hours and hours and hours because
Speaker 1: obviously it's like a seven minute kissing scene, so that
Speaker 1: probably took days. What are you watching? One day took
Speaker 1: one night, one night, it was nine days of kissing.
Speaker 1: What do you think when you're because I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think as a fan, what I'm thinking when I'm watching
Speaker 1: the makeout? What are you thinking? Because it's you? I
Speaker 1: mean at that time in my life. Now, okay, both
Speaker 1: both both both people are gonna kill me if you
Speaker 1: don't do both both. I mean, I was into it,
Speaker 1: we were filming it. I'm not gonna lie. I wasn't
Speaker 1: thinking about much other than I'm like, you have to
Speaker 1: think because there's a part where your legs are like
Speaker 1: so beautifully crossed while you're making out on that ledge.
Speaker 1: Are they like going okay? Or were you guys kind
Speaker 1: of just doing your thing? We were just kind of
Speaker 1: doing I'm pretty sure. And at the hands, the hands
Speaker 1: to the yes and the hair like, so, what do
Speaker 1: you think when you're watching it now? Because really blushed.
Speaker 1: I don't know why because it was major was major beauty.
Speaker 1: They had a lot of chemistry, that's for sure, those
Speaker 1: two kids, I mean, I guess. And then the kissing
Speaker 1: in the restaurant over the table, I mean, this entire
Speaker 1: episode is like Kelly and Dylan kissing. Yeah, And as
Speaker 1: I'm watching it, I'm like, I want them to keep kissing,
Speaker 1: Like I as a person watching the show fan, I
Speaker 1: want to see more of that because I like it same. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have a question, what do you think would have
Speaker 1: happened had Dylan and Kelly not bumped into Brenda and Reek? Like, question,
Speaker 1: what do you think would have and should have? M
Speaker 1: m both of you? They probably well, he said come
Speaker 1: home with me, spend the night with me, Kelly, that
Speaker 1: that would have that would have gone They would have
Speaker 1: gone home and done things. I think so too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: things are I think it would have done it for sure,
Speaker 1: which I was like, whoa, Kelly, slow your roll, like,
Speaker 1: slow it down. I really wanted. I wrote down, whoa,
Speaker 1: she's really moving fast, but she wan't. Then she says
Speaker 1: she wants to take it slow. Yeah. So at the observatory,
Speaker 1: why they're it was so weird because I was like,
Speaker 1: what do you think is going to happen here? Like,
Speaker 1: it's not like like you guys are gonna have sex right observatory.
Speaker 1: They're wait wait, wait, wait, gotta stop them, like, and
Speaker 1: they're so dressed fancy. And also this is those moments
Speaker 1: where I'm like, this is not high school, Like, no
Speaker 1: to high school kids go to that fancy, five star
Speaker 1: restaurant and eat Like I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 1: But then I was thinking, they're both really rich, like
Speaker 1: they they're both comfortable with that kind of excess because
Speaker 1: that's with the life that they've lived. And so it
Speaker 1: didn't make It didn't bother me so much that they
Speaker 1: were at a fancy, grown up restaurant. It was weird
Speaker 1: that you called it growning all grown up. It was
Speaker 1: weird that he was wearing a tie. That was a
Speaker 1: little weird. High schoolers say spend the night with me?
Speaker 1: What what? What What would what would he have said? A
Speaker 1: high school kid does not say spend the night with me? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, high school kids don't have houses like
Speaker 1: he has with no parents. High school kids have curfews
Speaker 1: and they have to be home by like I think
Speaker 1: twelve fifteen. Still, because like, how was Kelly spending the night?
Speaker 1: Like you have a mom, Like that is a question,
Speaker 1: like you're just allowed. You would probably lie and say
Speaker 1: I stayed at Grinda's house or Downa's house, but the
Speaker 1: irony of that would have been But I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: that is really um difficult to do. When they get
Speaker 1: up from the restaurant table and they're walking and kissing
Speaker 1: and walking, well, how do you that? Loo was really
Speaker 1: complicated to kind of walk straight ahead but be kiss
Speaker 1: they at the same time. Very weird and obviously we
Speaker 1: knew you were going to bump into them. But also really,
Speaker 1: there's four bajillion restaurants in l A, Like, come on, really,
Speaker 1: but it's meant to me. It was startling, even though
Speaker 1: I knew it was like a chasscare, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh god, oh, I mean there was so many moments
Speaker 1: in this episode, like there were so many just lines
Speaker 1: that we're hard for me, like when he said, uh,
Speaker 1: the first one was like what he said to Kelly,
Speaker 1: we don't have to hide it anymore, And I thought,
Speaker 1: why I'm so confused. I was so confused because I
Speaker 1: hadn't really been hiding it. I've just been like stuffing it,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't hiding anything because he was just back
Speaker 1: with Brenda. Well, and did you notice they kissed at school?
Speaker 1: That I was going to say that that really felt
Speaker 1: so wrong. Everybody could have seen them. Everyone could everyone
Speaker 1: was out there. It's not where was everyone? They see everything,
Speaker 1: like there's no other characters around, and it's not like
Speaker 1: the other kids in school don't know what other kids
Speaker 1: are dating. So like, even if Brenda and Donna weren't around,
Speaker 1: like all the other kids would have been like, did
Speaker 1: you just see Dolan and Kelly kissing in the quade?
Speaker 1: Is that travels fast? Does it happen that quickly? Like
Speaker 1: less than forty eight hours? They were both like moving
Speaker 1: on to somebody else. Yeah, because I think Donna even
Speaker 1: acknowledges that with with Brenda. Yeah she did, was Donna?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm? All then a also then he said, well,
Speaker 1: first then she says to Kelly, no, he's free to
Speaker 1: go out with whoever he wants. But she didn't know
Speaker 1: that she was talking about Kelly, right, and nobody says
Speaker 1: that intending that their best friend is included in that.
Speaker 1: So I do feel for Brenda. Look, I was sort
Speaker 1: of understanding Brenda throughout this episode. She was trying to
Speaker 1: take the high road and trying to say to Dylan, like,
Speaker 1: do you you should date who you want? I'm going
Speaker 1: to date, like this is our whole point. But I
Speaker 1: don't think her intention was ever meaning including my best friend.
Speaker 1: I understood why she was so heartbroken when she bumping
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's one thing to say that, but
Speaker 1: then for her to find out that he was had
Speaker 1: moved right on to anybody else would have been hurtful,
Speaker 1: because there's difference since saying in and actually living it.
Speaker 1: But hey, yeah, for Tivy, Kelly was like, oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we have to think about this.
Speaker 1: She's out with Rick and and Dylan acknowledges it. He
Speaker 1: was the guy that gave her the tour in France,
Speaker 1: that she kissed in France, so he is also right
Speaker 1: to be sort of irritated, like he's from because she's
Speaker 1: moved on so fast. So just like Brenda is right
Speaker 1: to be hurt, so is Dylan. Yeah, but because there
Speaker 1: if they're going to stand there and be so hurt,
Speaker 1: like get back together, Like I was like, I didn't
Speaker 1: feel for him though, like he's making himself not very vulnerable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was kind of jerky about it. Yeah, what the
Speaker 1: writing is? What did you both think when he said
Speaker 1: you broke up with me? And then Kelly was very
Speaker 1: hurt by that. Yeah, that's like a private discussion that
Speaker 1: you probably don't want to have in front of your
Speaker 1: future fling. Yeah, how rude. Yeah, and Kelly makes a
Speaker 1: great point when she's back at Dylan saying I feel
Speaker 1: like second choice and he's like, you're not, but she's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know that. Well, what about when when they
Speaker 1: were in the school hallway and they have their was
Speaker 1: in the hallway where they meet up. Yeah, uh, where
Speaker 1: Kelly goes over to talk to Brenda, which I thought
Speaker 1: was really brave, and then then it gets heated and
Speaker 1: Brenda says, well, at least I wasn't like second choice
Speaker 1: or sloppy seconds or whatever she said, And then Kelly
Speaker 1: says neither was I, And at that moment I was like, wait, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're early. Yeah you well, I think to me, I
Speaker 1: understood that because he picked her over Brenda. He was
Speaker 1: with Brenda in the summer, they weren't broken up, and
Speaker 1: he picked Kelly. I don't think Kelly is second choice,
Speaker 1: but she's just the next choice. M M. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I see that made a old difference. It's painful. Like, honestly, though,
Speaker 1: what about what about this line? Sometimes when you really
Speaker 1: care about someone, honesty isn't always the best policy. That's
Speaker 1: I got very upset because you automatically like bring it
Speaker 1: into your own life. You can't help not. You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want that. I don't want that, like and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, it's just it's just a TV show,
Speaker 1: not about me, but right, Yeah. But then if you
Speaker 1: think about it, like, has there ever been a time
Speaker 1: when you were dishonest because telling the person that you
Speaker 1: care about would be so hurtful to them and have
Speaker 1: such a negative impact on them. Yeah, of course, but
Speaker 1: when you hear it, you always think about it first,
Speaker 1: probably as like if that was done to me, But
Speaker 1: then if you think about it, you're like, well I've
Speaker 1: done that. Yeah. Uh so Tori in this you have
Speaker 1: done like if you're everybody, what would you have done? Pressure? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I would love to know that. And Jenny has
Speaker 1: like all of them once? Yeah, like should they have
Speaker 1: told Brenda like should they like who? What is the answer? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer. Well I know, but what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen? But okay, so I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But the kiss at school, going out to dinner so risky,
Speaker 1: like Peach, I don't know. It all felt really wrong.
Speaker 1: It felt like okay, too fast, right, so yeah, but
Speaker 1: so typical of our show. But so I guess I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, you're good, but know they're smarter
Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, Jenny, what about you? What would you
Speaker 1: have liked to have seen if this were real life? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would have liked to see the
Speaker 1: dust settle a little bit and um, give everybody a
Speaker 1: minute to just sort of get their bearings about them
Speaker 1: and make choices based on on that, rather than it
Speaker 1: felt like their their choices were kind of for the
Speaker 1: wrong reasons. A little bit on Dylan's part and maybe
Speaker 1: on Brenda's part was it weird that Brenda started literally
Speaker 1: dating Rick right away. I mean he's over at the
Speaker 1: house picking her up and just bonding with Jim and
Speaker 1: Cindy and then clearly over for dinner the next night
Speaker 1: or I don't know if it was two nights, but
Speaker 1: probably the next night. Do we judge that? What do
Speaker 1: we think of that? Can we call him? It was
Speaker 1: like three words? So think about Dylan maybe brooding, but
Speaker 1: at least he's not boring or something like Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's interesting that we're so critical of Dylan and Kelly.
Speaker 1: But does Brenda get a pass, like for just going
Speaker 1: out with Rick? Like literally she's very serious with Rick.
Speaker 1: Ish for me, I just I love Dylan and Kelly
Speaker 1: together so much that I wanted it to play out longer.
Speaker 1: That you can't always get what you want and like
Speaker 1: hiding it more and the like that they feel, and
Speaker 1: maybe it's getting more and more. Like maybe that kiss,
Speaker 1: let's say it's like happened at school, but it was
Speaker 1: like there was a worry about it, like it can't
Speaker 1: happen because we all know you want what you can't have,
Speaker 1: Like that's human nature, at least when you're young. So
Speaker 1: like as a fan, Like, I just wanted to see
Speaker 1: that play out a little bit more rather than Okay,
Speaker 1: Brenda Dylan are broken up, Okay, Kelly Dillon together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I wanted more time in there. Yeah, still like observatory. Fine,
Speaker 1: because it's just them, we can say like amongst everyone
Speaker 1: like it. I didn't like it. I thought David was
Speaker 1: very sweet once again to his sister. You know, he
Speaker 1: was wearing the full Ronald McDonald outfit. Likely he loves stripes,
Speaker 1: but he was very sweet. You know, he's not judging
Speaker 1: the situation. And he really said to Kelly, like he
Speaker 1: likes you. He cares about you. Do you know you're
Speaker 1: in the bed with the big red T shirt on?
Speaker 1: He says, I'm thinking. Sorry, he says, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that's how Dylan sees it or something like that. But
Speaker 1: how does he know? That's my question? How does David?
Speaker 1: No intuitive dude, But he's just very sweet. He's very
Speaker 1: brotherly to Kelly now and I like the senior relationship.
Speaker 1: So then what about Dylan just taken off rebel with
Speaker 1: a cause that pissed me off. Yeah, that just really
Speaker 1: piss me off. Is he in next week? I'm sure you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, so, are you sure? No, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I honestly have no idea, but I would think, so,
Speaker 1: how can they just do that? And then I don't know,
Speaker 1: it was just so like, oh, comedia, Oh I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna take off for a while. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe he had to film something else. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was silly, but that was my instinct. I am
Speaker 1: starting to really see the best friend nous between Brandon
Speaker 1: and Dylan, and I like that a lot because I
Speaker 1: really have been missing that lately. You know, that's his
Speaker 1: last stop. That's where he goes like and Brandon says,
Speaker 1: like you're driving out of school, like they I really
Speaker 1: have always liked that relationship because at that point, Brandon
Speaker 1: doesn't know about the Kelly Brenda the thing, doesn't noe.
Speaker 1: That would be a conversation that they would probably need
Speaker 1: to have mm hmm is to talk about as bros.
Speaker 1: You know, like this happen a weird moment because I
Speaker 1: know I just watched this episode, like literally last night,
Speaker 1: does does do Brenda and Reek bump into Kelly and Dylan?
Speaker 1: And then the next night Rick comes over for dinner
Speaker 1: like she wasn't I don't think so I think you
Speaker 1: see them. He takes her home that night, right, but
Speaker 1: then she breaks up with him. Oh, you're right. I
Speaker 1: thought it was two different. Yeah, that is a little weird.
Speaker 1: Like she goes through this trauma like as a teenager,
Speaker 1: I would have been in my bed with the covers
Speaker 1: over my head for days. So she has this traumatic
Speaker 1: experience and then the next night he comes over for
Speaker 1: family dinner. It's kind of weird. It was really funny though,
Speaker 1: and he was uh, they were talking about stuff no
Speaker 1: one cares about him and Jim and then the just
Speaker 1: the look on Brenda's face was like, really cracked me
Speaker 1: up because it felt so real. I thought the whole
Speaker 1: scene Shannon was like a great actress because there's the crying,
Speaker 1: which was really good, and then he kind of goes
Speaker 1: to hug her and she makes the face that is
Speaker 1: the exact face you would actually make in that situation.
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, she nailed it. So is this
Speaker 1: that's the breakup scene? And when then we don't see
Speaker 1: Reek anymore? Well, okay, now then I'm confused because when
Speaker 1: Dean was on or at some point there was a
Speaker 1: conversation with us that he had to do singing with Jim.
Speaker 1: They cut it. He referenced it, So I don't know
Speaker 1: if they cut it because it's on Amazon and they
Speaker 1: couldn't clear the music, or if it was on the
Speaker 1: cutting room floor, because remember he comes down the stairs
Speaker 1: and he's like, I never thought I would be sing
Speaker 1: with your dad tonied like in the original airing? Was
Speaker 1: that in? I don't know. I kind of feel like
Speaker 1: there was a scene where they were both singing at
Speaker 1: the piano. Yeah. I think Amazon had to cut it
Speaker 1: because we all watched on Amazon, right Hulu hul oh,
Speaker 1: I watched on Amazon. It wasn't in the Amazon either.
Speaker 1: M weird from our crack staff is going to have
Speaker 1: to watch it on the DVDs. Thanks to Crystal, we
Speaker 1: have them. I wanted to see that scene though it
Speaker 1: would have it would have been good. But then, yeah,
Speaker 1: she was just waiting downstairs for him and he was
Speaker 1: up in her dad's bedroom basically at the piano. Do
Speaker 1: you think it would be a turn off like it
Speaker 1: was to her or would you like it that your
Speaker 1: family's bonding with the boyfriends so much because that's been
Speaker 1: such an issue with Dylan. I feel like if she
Speaker 1: really was into him, she would have liked it more,
Speaker 1: But I don't think she was that into him from
Speaker 1: the He was just ever Yeah, No, he was just
Speaker 1: something to fill her, a catalyst for which I also
Speaker 1: find totally because as like a human girl, if you're like, um,
Speaker 1: I'm in high school and the hottest dude, because like, look,
Speaker 1: Dean Kane is a hot dude. U c l A
Speaker 1: likes me. I think I've been into that, Like, don't
Speaker 1: you want to be like a girl? You're some seventeen
Speaker 1: year old fool breaking with Dylan, isn't she well that
Speaker 1: to take away from the phone at the end when
Speaker 1: she calls him, I felt like she was calling him
Speaker 1: because she missed him, or she was so sad. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Well how would you get over someone that quick? You
Speaker 1: wouldn't after two years the love of your life so far.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It doesn't work like that. It's don't
Speaker 1: you guys think this is a hot mess. It is
Speaker 1: a hot mess. Yeah it is, and I'm there for
Speaker 1: it and I want to know what's going to happen next.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and come back with fashion. You guys,
Speaker 1: m m, you don't remember what's coming. I know, I
Speaker 1: don't remember what's coming dude? What's wrong with you? Guys?
Speaker 1: Like it's so gnarly. I don't know if it's next
Speaker 1: week or the week after, but like, oh god, I too,
Speaker 1: I've blocked it from my memory banks coming up, right,
Speaker 1: that's how traumatic it is. I mean, probably some bajillion
Speaker 1: views on YouTube that scene. It's like iconic. You know,
Speaker 1: you know Tor and I know I do not know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. What's saying? How do you not know?
Speaker 1: Because like it's like probably one of the most I
Speaker 1: don't want to say iconic moment because it's so brutal.
Speaker 1: I still know when you see it, you'll know you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: of course, I just got away the things that I do.
Speaker 1: You guys, don't do this to me, Like I have
Speaker 1: to do my breathing hold on the scene with Kelly
Speaker 1: and Dylan and Brenda Yea, the one at the restaurant. No,
Speaker 1: it's coming up? Is it in the next episode? Well,
Speaker 1: it's either next week or the week after. I mean
Speaker 1: at the front door. This is the theory. In theory though,
Speaker 1: think about it, Like, you guys are now together, Like
Speaker 1: at some point, is she going to find out who
Speaker 1: he was with over the summer. This is not bringing
Speaker 1: anything back to Hu. I got nothingnt front door. You
Speaker 1: guys going to walk on down the front but nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm sure when I see it. Wait, what about what
Speaker 1: about that line? Uh? If it looks like a duck
Speaker 1: and it quacks like what was if it walks like
Speaker 1: a duck and talks like a duck? I was always
Speaker 1: told if it walks like a duck and talks like
Speaker 1: a duck, it's a duck. Go to hell, Go to Hell. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I loved your go to Hell, but that if I Okay,
Speaker 1: I feel like, why did Shannon in that moment not
Speaker 1: say can I say something that teens really say? Like
Speaker 1: this is a big moment, so true tory, like fight
Speaker 1: for that, that's what you need to fight for. Like
Speaker 1: line like that. I was literally trying to wrap my
Speaker 1: head around it. It was so bizarre, if you see.
Speaker 1: I think the most iconic line in this episode is
Speaker 1: when Dylan says anywhere but here. Oh at the end
Speaker 1: when he's in the school leaving after Mrs Teasley says
Speaker 1: like he lost his case or whatever, and then someone says,
Speaker 1: where are you going? Either you do or Brenda? Anywhere
Speaker 1: but here? That's like icon I love it that the
Speaker 1: writers like had the depth to make you know how
Speaker 1: in life you you are fight or flight? Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: one or the other, you know, And they they gave
Speaker 1: that character depth all the way down to that level.
Speaker 1: He's a he flies, he's he hits the road when
Speaker 1: she hits the fan. Yeah, and it tracks with the character.
Speaker 1: It's what that guy would do. Yeah. I thought that
Speaker 1: was really cool, just like acknowledging the depth of that
Speaker 1: character that they created. I actually feel bad for him.
Speaker 1: I know it's sort of like a B story or
Speaker 1: a C story whatever about the S A T thing. Yeah, same,
Speaker 1: But who do you feel bad about? Oh, Dylan. I
Speaker 1: feel bad that they don't believe him, and he wants
Speaker 1: everyone to believe him, and I think that's sort of yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: they don't believe it. But they didn't have a record
Speaker 1: of him signing in. So why is that? I forgot
Speaker 1: So he signed in, but they don't be he came late,
Speaker 1: he signed it, and so they don't have a They
Speaker 1: can't match the signature. I prove that it wasn't because
Speaker 1: the just as someone faked it and took it for him,
Speaker 1: signed an infliptence and they don't have another signature to
Speaker 1: prove it. But like they that's just sort of a
Speaker 1: like a secondary story, but it's brutal, like as as
Speaker 1: that character, that's major what's happening to him with that?
Speaker 1: And I think that really divided Dylan and Brenda. It
Speaker 1: seems trivial, I guess, but when you really think about it,
Speaker 1: he's a character. He's like, this is you're talking about
Speaker 1: my character. I don't lie, don't cheat this He kind
Speaker 1: of does, but you know what, but he didn't cheat
Speaker 1: on the test, so and Brenda believes him, but she's like,
Speaker 1: just take the test again. Where he's saying, on principle,
Speaker 1: I am a man of principle. I didn't do this,
Speaker 1: and I want everyone to defend me and believe me.
Speaker 1: I listen, I'm a person who stands on principle a lot,
Speaker 1: and it is a lonely fight. Like you have to
Speaker 1: you really need to evaluate that because your principles, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, are not the same as
Speaker 1: someone else's principles. So when you're I've realized, like when
Speaker 1: I'm standing on my principles, like on my high horse,
Speaker 1: it's like it's a lonely place you're going to fall,
Speaker 1: and you're going to be alone because everybody's got a
Speaker 1: different principle or a different way of seeing something. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a great, great point. I heard nothing you said,
Speaker 1: because is there someone picking up poop in your backyard
Speaker 1: right now? There's either your husband or a murderer in
Speaker 1: your window right now, my husband. Let's hope he is
Speaker 1: picking up doction. Listen, you need to run. Okay, I
Speaker 1: have a question about First of all, I know I
Speaker 1: need to work on that. You're not supposed to say
Speaker 1: I have a question. You're supposed to just ask the question.
Speaker 1: So here's my question. Did you guys see that there
Speaker 1: were two Star Trek jokes in this episode? And each
Speaker 1: one flew over my head and I should have gone back.
Speaker 1: There was a Star Trek joke between David and Iron,
Speaker 1: maybe because of his First of all, I just did
Speaker 1: it again David and Steve Stripe. Sure, And then there
Speaker 1: was a Star Trek joke. No, I don't know that.
Speaker 1: Those I didn't ever get. I still don't because not
Speaker 1: a Star Trek fan. But even when Luke was doing
Speaker 1: that awful impersonation of someone on Star Trek, I I
Speaker 1: didn't get it. But the guys, do you remember that tour?
Speaker 1: They used to just they used to talk like the
Speaker 1: Star Trek guys all the time. I loved imitating William
Speaker 1: Shatner like it was. It was a big why it's
Speaker 1: in there? Yeah yeah, maybe yeah, no way. And then
Speaker 1: I noticed Steve has finally unbuttoned know where air ties
Speaker 1: you guys? The air time phase has maybe passed, which
Speaker 1: is very exciting. I think so too, because he has
Speaker 1: two scenes with a shirt unbutton noticed. Noticed, Thank god,
Speaker 1: fashion moment for you, missy. Oh well, I love that
Speaker 1: Kelly and Brenda both wear black dresses and like they
Speaker 1: were just very different black dresses. I love them both,
Speaker 1: but I was like, I was loving that, um you
Speaker 1: know again there was more plaid. I hated Luke's too.
Speaker 1: I was a platy. Right, it's really bad. I'm not fitting.
Speaker 1: I just like and he and he also donned the
Speaker 1: Canadian tuxedo a jean jacket with the if anyone could rocket,
Speaker 1: it would be him, like I can pass. Brenda won
Speaker 1: it with the opening outfit. Good. It needed like a
Speaker 1: song to go with it, like really send it over
Speaker 1: the edge. Jim in the robe. Dottie is a cutie
Speaker 1: I'm not a line. Dottie had like a cool, you know,
Speaker 1: work dress. Um, the girls were out at work. That's
Speaker 1: when I was like, hello, Dundy to tease right exactly.
Speaker 1: David's Ronald McDonald. I mean he was wearing bright red
Speaker 1: pants and it's a right yellow shirt and then but
Speaker 1: then also an umpire outfit one time, like he was
Speaker 1: wearing black and white stripe. Even you were in a
Speaker 1: black You were in a scene with him, and I
Speaker 1: honestly felt as if you when you looked over at him,
Speaker 1: you were like what are you wearing? Like I could
Speaker 1: feel really like you didn't like it either. Do you
Speaker 1: ever do that when you're with you, like your significant
Speaker 1: other someone and you look and you're like, wow, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the man I love. I also laughed because there's
Speaker 1: a scene where it's Dylan in a white T shirt
Speaker 1: with a button down over and Brandon's in a white
Speaker 1: T shirt, like same stylist, like the same outfit, just different.
Speaker 1: They weren't bff. So boys can do it too. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. Next week's episode, I'm really excited to see
Speaker 1: what happens. Next episode is season three, episode fourteen, Wild Horses.
Speaker 1: Before we hang up. Yeah, are we in like party line?
Speaker 1: Remember you used to call it try line when we
Speaker 1: had landlines. This is the only part, well not the
Speaker 1: only part, but one of the reasons Brenda made me
Speaker 1: a little cookie cuckoo in this episode is when she's
Speaker 1: talking about Rick and she says, and he's crazy about me?
Speaker 1: Is that annoying? It's almost braggy or do you guys
Speaker 1: not care? I thought it was braggy. Well he was,
Speaker 1: so she ain't lying. But have you ever said that, like,
Speaker 1: especially not a teenager now, but sometimes teenagers at least nowadays,
Speaker 1: like their front is very like confident, like you look great,
Speaker 1: I know, and you're like, oh my god, I would
Speaker 1: never say that. Like teens say that all the time,
Speaker 1: and it's like, but do they really feel that way
Speaker 1: or like it's just like they're trying something like he's
Speaker 1: crazy about me? But like and then I thought it
Speaker 1: was interesting. I'll take y'all, I'll let it go. When
Speaker 1: there's a very subtle line when Brenda says to Kelly,
Speaker 1: you've known Dylan forever, what do you think? And it's
Speaker 1: like interesting they wrote that in just to re iterate,
Speaker 1: like we get that a lot now that like they
Speaker 1: have the history and that's what's drawing them to each other,
Speaker 1: which I just think is important. Yes, they do know
Speaker 1: each other. I think that's the backbone of their relationship.
Speaker 1: Is there familiarity with each other and the circum Why
Speaker 1: am I chopped liver? What do you mean? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a great point. Haven't I known you guys forever? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're not in the love triangle, I know. I
Speaker 1: just wish she had been like, well, you guys have
Speaker 1: known Dylan forever, and then Kelly's like takes it personally
Speaker 1: because it's about you guys. I don't know. I was
Speaker 1: just weird. I was like, I'm sure they've all gone
Speaker 1: to school together, like probably the three of them. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Donna has been there the whole time as well.
Speaker 1: I know they've said it before, but it was like,
Speaker 1: you and Dylan have a scene together, not anyone else.
Speaker 1: And you were in that scene when she said that, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: standing right there like right, like yeah, they knew nothing.
Speaker 1: And poor johnas like I was, I've been there for
Speaker 1: like the last ten years, two since preschool. Cool story
Speaker 1: of my life exactly, Hey guys, here us Poor Johna's
Speaker 1: like whatever, whatever, catching season ten bitches. It's like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna trying to get the two fifty dollars to turn
Speaker 1: in whoever the hacker is. Whoa. The Feds are really
Speaker 1: bringing it so fun. You guys loved it, loved it.
Speaker 1: It's scared for the Instagram. But I'll be reading it
Speaker 1: all I'm so excited to read it. I read it
Speaker 1: to Amy. By the way, you guys give Amy some
Speaker 1: props in love too, Like they're so nice. They make
Speaker 1: my whole life literally. But more often than not, when
Speaker 1: when people hate hate someone or they have a problem
Speaker 1: with them, they'll say it. And people people love, there's
Speaker 1: more love always, but some people say it. But if
Speaker 1: you love someone, you don't always think to say it.
Speaker 1: You're just like, huh, it's great. I love it. Well,
Speaker 1: they love you, guys, they do you know what? Amy?
Speaker 1: I love you, Tori, I love you. I love you,
Speaker 1: Jennifer Eve, Amy. What's your middle name? Amy? Oh my god, if,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I just made my day. I love you, guys.
Speaker 1: In the iconic words, in the iconic words of Jim Walsh,
Speaker 1: I want to sleep with you. I mean sleep on it.
Speaker 1: We AB's realize your initials are a s S, I
Speaker 1: know it's not okay on that goodbye. People love you.