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Speaker 1: I took Macho Man to show and tell in kindergarten.

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Speaker 2: You told man to show and tell.

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Speaker 3: Well, they were in town. My dad playing this, So

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Speaker 3: they were in town. I don't know if it was

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Speaker 3: for a show or promotion. And my dad brought him

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Speaker 3: by Providence Day where I went to elementary school. He

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Speaker 3: was just like walking down in Azuba's you know, my

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Speaker 3: dad and him, Like.

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Speaker 2: What were the kids saying?

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Speaker 1: I see? I don't know if they even knew who

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Speaker 1: he was because we were so young.

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Speaker 4: Did he show? Was he the thing that he were showing?

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Speaker 2: He's the show?

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Speaker 3: He is the Show's the show, but I know it

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Speaker 3: wasn't actually showing till day.

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Speaker 1: He was just like I have shown tell today, Like

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Speaker 1: here we go.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Games of Names.

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Speaker 2: I'm Julian Edelman, They're Jack and Kyler, and we're on

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Speaker 2: a mission to find the greatest game of all time.

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Speaker 2: And on today's episode, we are covering Flair versus Rowsey

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Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen Survivor series Raw Versus SmackDown with fourteen

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Speaker 2: time Woman's World Champion Wrestling Royalty the Queen Charlotte Flair,

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Speaker 2: and we're talking what it's like to have Rick Flair

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Speaker 2: as your dad.

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Speaker 3: I never really realized what my dad meant to the

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Speaker 3: industry until I watched him retire.

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Speaker 1: These people really like my dad. This is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Then we get into Rondo Rousey and her jump to

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Speaker 2: the WWE.

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Speaker 1: I mean, sure, I know how to do a submission,

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Speaker 1: but do I know how to break your arm?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: But she does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what made her special. She was untouchable at

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Speaker 3: that point.

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Speaker 2: And what goes into wrestling feuds. You go in apologizing,

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Speaker 2: you do business as business is being done. And then

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Speaker 2: we hit the hotline with this week's chill Zone, brought

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Speaker 2: to you by cors Light. You gotta stick around to

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Speaker 2: the very end. Let's go. Games and Names Production by Radio,

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Speaker 2: November eighteenth, twenty eighteen, Staples Center, Los Angeles, California.

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Speaker 3: The Baddest woman on the planet versus the Queen, and.

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Speaker 2: It's about to get bloody.

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Speaker 1: This is anything you can do, I can do better?

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Speaker 4: Match.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Games with Names Today, we have a very

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Speaker 2: special guest. We are looking at the Charlotte Flair versus

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Speaker 2: Ronda Rousey Raw versus SmackDown Survivor Series twenty eighteen match

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Speaker 2: with Ashley Flair because she plays Charlotte Flair in one sentence.

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Speaker 2: In one sentence, why this match?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to main event WrestleMania because of that match.

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Speaker 2: Yes, is this the greatest match of all time?

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Speaker 3: Not the greatest match of all time, but one of

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Speaker 3: the most impactful matches of all time?

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Speaker 2: Two very thought out and well answered questions and staying

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Speaker 2: within the guidelines of the questions, which most of our

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Speaker 2: guests don't do. Best we've gotten in a long time. Okay, there, Now,

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Speaker 2: if it's not the greatest but most impactful, what is

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Speaker 2: the greatest match of all time, like.

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Speaker 3: Of my catalog of matches, or the greatest match of

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Speaker 3: all the.

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Speaker 2: Greatest match of whatever you think could be match, It

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Speaker 2: could be sport. What is the the.

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Speaker 3: Greatest wrestling match of all time? Wrestling is so objective objective?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the greatest match of all time for me.

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Speaker 3: Because I never really realized what my dad meant to

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Speaker 3: the industry until I watched him retire against Sean Michaels'

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Speaker 3: and everyone holding up the WU signs and grown men

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Speaker 3: crying and the like I'm sorry from Sean Michaels, Like

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Speaker 3: It just had everything that a pro wrestling match needs

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Speaker 3: and should have for storytelling.

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Speaker 2: Well, we need to get that match on. We have

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Speaker 2: show eventually. Incredible.

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Speaker 1: I was like, these people really like my dad. This

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Speaker 1: is crazy. I mean I wasn't really a wrestling fan,

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Speaker 2: Okay, and we'll dive into that. But what are you

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Speaker 1: What am I doing these days?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing these days? What takes up your

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Speaker 2: time wrestling? Wrestling? You're coming back from injury? I love it.

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Speaker 4: How was the feeling?

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Speaker 1: It's good, it's more mental.

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Speaker 3: I came back, won the Royal Rumble, have had a

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Speaker 3: back and you to train. Yeah, my brace is bedazzled.

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Speaker 2: I love it. You gotta have swag, you gotta be

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Speaker 2: dazzle the brace. Now you talk about you need more

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Speaker 2: because your injury. What's the rehab process been like for you?

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Speaker 2: Explain to the listener how psychologically demanding it is to

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Speaker 2: come back from injury.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Well, especially when you're an athlete.

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Speaker 3: And for me, I think what helped me stand out

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Speaker 3: So having that being taken away and not knowing if

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Speaker 3: I could come back and be the Charlotte Flair with

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Speaker 3: you know, the high flying, quick feet, just naturally athletic.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, Like the best part

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Speaker 3: mentally overcoming that and then once you come that and

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Speaker 3: realizing like, oh, this process isn't just Okay, I'm out

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Speaker 3: for nine months and I come back, It's like no,

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Speaker 3: I mean strengthening the muscle, the stability. I still get

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Speaker 3: a shock wave twice a week to deal with, like

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Speaker 3: the pain and the quad.

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Speaker 1: It's just constant.

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Speaker 3: But I like the challenge of it, to be honest,

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Speaker 3: because before this, like ten years of my career, I

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Speaker 3: time to have a match, Like, didn't think about it,

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Speaker 3: didn't worry about it. And now I'm like, does this

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Speaker 3: limb feel like my right leg? Like not necessarily, And.

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Speaker 4: People don't realize that.

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Speaker 2: When you're a professional athlete and you get hurt, it's

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Speaker 2: not about healing the injury one hundred percent. Okay, that's

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Speaker 2: not what you're trying to get when you're an athlete. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're trying to get to where you were at before

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Speaker 2: the injury. Yes, which being healed and where you're at

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Speaker 2: after the injury is different. So that's the constant battle

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Speaker 2: the professional athlete has in their mind while they're rehabbing.

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Speaker 2: Something is, yes, the injury is healed, but can the

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Speaker 2: lit the limb or the anything whatever you hurt get

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Speaker 2: to where it was before you're injured. And that's the

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Speaker 2: self conscious consciousness that you have when your rehab and

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Speaker 2: it's just I always for me, it was always like

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Speaker 2: I had to get in competition mode with myself and

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Speaker 2: it gets into like you were saying, you were an

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Speaker 2: comes into that and it's always fun. Here in people's

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Speaker 2: how they handle.

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Speaker 4: That is you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was for me.

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Speaker 2: Now how's it being back in the ring.

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Speaker 1: It feels good.

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Speaker 3: So when I'm actually in the ring, I don't think

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Speaker 1: Is this gonna hurt?

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Speaker 3: It? Like I just never had those thoughts before, Like

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Speaker 3: I just I don't know. I was like indestructible, and

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Speaker 3: now I'm like I kind of like second guess things

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Speaker 3: is this the safest thing to do?

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Speaker 1: Like like should I go.

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Speaker 2: Through this table? Actually I told the.

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Speaker 1: Fans to stop saying that the other day.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's terrible.

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Speaker 4: Chance.

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Speaker 1: I just that's the hard part.

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Speaker 3: And then like a doctor telling you, well, your knee

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Speaker 3: is never going to be the same. Well if I

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Speaker 3: do this, your knee is never going to be the same.

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Speaker 3: Well if I do You're like, huh, Like that doesn't

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Speaker 3: like compute with me. How no matter how hard I train,

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Speaker 3: it's not going to be the same. Yeah, Like it

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Speaker 3: looks the same. The muscles great, the shape, say.

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Speaker 2: The thing that you got to take that I always

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Speaker 2: took from when I got hurt was the information you

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Speaker 2: were getting from the physical therapist. The doctor's just the technician,

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Speaker 2: he's just doing the work. The physical therapist is teaching

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Speaker 2: you how body placements should be when your body's vulnerable,

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Speaker 2: when you're cutting on it, or you know, what kind

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Speaker 2: of movement will give it stress, so that there's certain

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Speaker 2: movements we can train, certain muscles we can train to

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Speaker 2: protect our movement going, Like that's the stuff that I

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Speaker 2: was like superhuman because I was rehabbing both knees and

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Speaker 2: you become educated on what you should and shouldn't do,

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Speaker 2: and then like you know the proper technique on certain

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Speaker 2: that's so hopefully the things that you learn out of that.

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Speaker 3: Well, like inkle mobility right now is the biggest focus

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Speaker 3: for me, And I'm like, oh my, I've never worked

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Speaker 3: my ankles in thirty nine years of my life. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: The biomechanics are all connected. Yeah, So you get back

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Speaker 2: in the ring, you're probably like eighteen months out now,

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Speaker 2: but you've had some serious combats, some serious matches. You

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Speaker 2: went to WrestleMania forty one in Vegas?

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Speaker 4: How was that?

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Speaker 1: It was good?

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Speaker 2: Was that you see Gronk there?

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Speaker 1: I don't think I saw him that day.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who Gronk is?

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Speaker 3: I do, well, I'm we have a mutual friend, okay,

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Speaker 3: Dean Mutati.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I've seen him out there. He's he lives

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Speaker 2: in Orlando. I think, yeah, he does. We have summer

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Speaker 2: Summer Slam at MetLife this summer.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Are we excited for that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, to be back in my life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. And the best fans in the

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Speaker 1: world are from the Northeast, So you think so. I

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Speaker 1: think so.

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Speaker 3: They're the smartest. I like that, except for Chicago fans.

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Speaker 3: Oh why the worst wrestling city in the world. Worst,

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Speaker 3: worst and the second really.

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Speaker 2: What's not too what's wrong with Chicago?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: They know what's wrong with them?

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Speaker 2: Or Chicago? What's the best city? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's so many Philly in New York, Pittsburgh, anywhere overseas, Boston,

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Speaker 3: Boston's good.

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Speaker 4: Becky Lynch said, Hidalgo, Texas deep cut.

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Speaker 3: Any small town in Texas. Yeah, man, they're easily entertained.

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Speaker 2: She said, like Chile.

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Speaker 6: Too, I think or something. Yep, they're dropping some crazy pools.

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Speaker 2: Now, John Cena's back. Yep, that's always big for the

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Speaker 2: w W E John.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, the John Cena, no big deal.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever met the Johnson?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I go what do you you mean, John Cena?

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Speaker 2: He's a bad guy. Now, how is that going through?

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Speaker 1: John's been a good guy his whole career, career?

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Speaker 1: I just have to be yes.

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Speaker 2: So my mom used to say, I was so you're

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Speaker 4: Boy.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's like when I try to be nice or

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know what, I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna make you hate me and just say I'm

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Speaker 3: the greatest that I didn't have to work for this. Well,

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Speaker 3: I mean, being a legacy wrestler and your dad's rick

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Speaker 2: So when they bring in you, when you're at the high,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Now, what's what's more fun? Being the heeler, being the babyface?

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Speaker 1: Being the bad guy? I agree, it's more fun.

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Speaker 2: You know, Like when you said the best fans are

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Speaker 3: But see, that's the mindset you have to always have,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like knowing you're like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm the greatest. I know, my dad and I are

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Speaker 3: going to need our own wing.

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Speaker 5: Gotta have your own wing of the hall, our own

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Speaker 2: Now, what's the key to good wrestling? Trash talk? What

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Speaker 3: Like I could back it up in the ring. That

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Speaker 2: Honestly, it doesn't get much more devilish than that.

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Speaker 4: That's some devil.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It really just depends on the opponent. Like everyone,

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Speaker 5: So you try to attack that. Yeah, that's how I

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Speaker 5: look at it. Are you practicing these things? Are you

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Speaker 5: thinking about these things pre like match? Because like I

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Speaker 5: and so he'd always asked me about the punter. Because

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know what's what's this? What's up

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Speaker 2: the kind of shit I would I would research everything

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Speaker 3: But it's the same in wrestling, it's the same. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the same.

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Speaker 2: Now, how what do you think about the state of

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Speaker 2: a whole other level than it's highre as a has

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Speaker 2: it ever been. What do you think I would agree

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Speaker 4: You agree?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And and this match is a huge part of it

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Speaker 3: And it was the main event of only one night.

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Speaker 3: Now we have two nights.

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Speaker 2: Is the main event of only one night night? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's a big deal.

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Speaker 3: Now you have two nights, two different opportunities, so that

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Speaker 3: like it'll never happen again unless we go to one night.

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Speaker 2: But Netflix, i'ing gonna let us go in one night.

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Speaker 2: You know, you gotta get them streams in. I get streams.

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Speaker 2: We got three hundred million people watching this in one

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Speaker 2: hit Buffalos? How crazy is that? The Wrestlings on Netflix now?

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Speaker 3: No, it's definitely different, like from Fox USA now Netflix.

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Speaker 3: It just goes to show how global we are. I

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Speaker 2: It's very global, and I think I think it's even

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Speaker 1: And that we have that much content.

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Speaker 2: That's another a lot of content.

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Speaker 3: Like you wouldn't think thirty years ago that you'd have

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Speaker 3: all these different shows, But because we're letting people behind

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Speaker 3: the curtain more, it's like, oh, yeah, like we do

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Speaker 3: have a lot of content. We're not just out there

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Speaker 3: in spandex. Yeah, play fighting, No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes a lot to go behind a lot

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Speaker 2: all these storyline for years.

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Speaker 3: I think people really don't realize how hard it is

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Speaker 3: what like what that means to be good at it.

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Speaker 3: We get a lot of athletes that are like, oh,

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Speaker 2: How do you have to be good at it?

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Speaker 3: Explain that wrestling is part of it, but really, like

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Speaker 3: the great the greats, you weren't like, oh, man, that

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Speaker 3: move was awesome. It's how they made you feel, like

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Speaker 3: stone Cold, my Dad, Undertaker, Triple H, Kurt Angle, It's

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Speaker 1: You weren't like, wow, Rick Flair did a great Moon Salt.

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Speaker 2: The delivery of the moon Salt though, how he did it,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's how he made you feel about the character

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Speaker 3: or like stone Cold, like saying f you to his boss.

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Speaker 8: Every man wants to do thattackage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So it's like so much stuff that goes into it,

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Speaker 1: Adds to that character.

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Speaker 3: But being a just just a good wrestler doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: it's going to take you to the dance or stand

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Speaker 1: You have to kind of check every box.

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Speaker 2: You have the swag. Yeah, as the young kid, you

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Speaker 1: Like lack of swag.

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Speaker 3: People have turned that into like being huge under babyface underdogs,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like Becky, Yeah, huge underdog.

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Speaker 2: That's her story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's her whole.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now you said athlete s cancers come in, Well, how

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Speaker 3: It just depends on how much effort they put into it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like I think Rhonda picked it up so quickly because

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So so how long do you think it takes me?

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Speaker 3: I think you did that your first night with all

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Speaker 3: that ship talking, you'd be great.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I uh? I did go do the

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Speaker 2: Lucha lee brace over Mexico and I learned the one

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Speaker 2: what's the move I did where I run and you

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Speaker 2: have a mask on? Yeah, full back right there. I

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Speaker 2: did a head scissor. There you go. We did, there's

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Speaker 4: I was called the.

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Speaker 8: Awesome ladder d the squirrel, the squirrel, the squirrel.

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Speaker 2: But no, it was fun. I we we we went.

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Speaker 2: It was a fun we do. We got some really

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Speaker 2: the man gave his body up. I was like, still

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Speaker 2: worrying about having your knees. Yeah, and ironic, ironically I

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Speaker 4: Of months later.

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Speaker 1: Not not in not doing this now, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I was doing a preseason game in Detroit, freaking that

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Speaker 2: terrible fucking field. Can we can we get lawsuits here?

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Speaker 2: It's an anti turf podcast, anti turf gras podcast. So

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Speaker 2: you you mentioned earlier you're you were never really a

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Speaker 2: fan of wrestling growing up, So what were you a

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Speaker 2: fan of? What was a young Ashley a fan of

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Speaker 2: when her dad's Rick Flair? What are you a fan

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Speaker 2: of when you were.

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Speaker 3: A fan of going to the shows being like, oh man,

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Speaker 3: that's my dad, Like hearing his music would give me butterflies,

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Speaker 3: where I was like, oh, my gosh, sting. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: took Macho Amanda Show and Tell.

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Speaker 2: In kindergarten, told man to show and tell.

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Speaker 3: They were in town and my dad playing this. So

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Speaker 3: they were in town. I don't know if it was

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Speaker 1: He was just like walking down.

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Speaker 3: In Azuba's you know those my dad and him like yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I was so young, Like I just remember like glimpses,

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Speaker 2: What were the kids saying, I see.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they even knew who he was

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Speaker 1: because we were so young.

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Speaker 4: A cool kid.

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Speaker 2: We don't know macho man at that age we like

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Speaker 2: six years old. Slim gyms for everybody got he just

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Speaker 2: was he giving out slim gyms? No, just there, he's

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Speaker 2: just there?

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Speaker 4: Did show or was he the thing that he's the show?

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Speaker 2: He is the show.

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Speaker 3: But I did bring my dad's big gold belt one

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Speaker 3: time for show in town and that was cool.

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Speaker 1: But like even.

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Speaker 3: Growing up, I didn't really realize is what these things

447
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 3: were or like or what he meant to the industry,

448
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: my dad, because I just was around it so much.

449
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: Like it becomes normal. Yeah, you don't realize.

450
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: Marian Anderson was my uncle, not but it just legend.

451
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Speaker 5: You know.

452
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 2: It's kind of like my daughter she gets you know,

453
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: she grew up going to our training camps, were wing

454
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: in Super Bowls. You know, Tom's holding her, Tom Brady

455
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: the greatest football player. She has no clue and she

456
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: all she talks about is Taylor Swift and the goddamn Chiefs.

457
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: That's great, you know, that's great.

458
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 4: There's gonna be a time.

459
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Speaker 2: Maybe one day though, she's gonna she gonna realize it

460
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 2: like Ash did here.

461
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 6: I still can't get over Macho mane coming to show

462
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 6: until that is so cool?

463
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 1: Actually show until day.

464
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Speaker 3: He was just like I have shown tell today, Like

465
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 3: here you go, like, here's macho man.

466
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: Who are some of your So you loved Sting as

467
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 2: a kid when you were going to die.

468
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: She was just the hair, the face paint.

469
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if he'd be like my I

470
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 3: mean he's great, yea, he'd be like my top ten,

471
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 3: but like.

472
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: As a young girl, it was like, oh Sting he

473
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: was cutie.

474
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now who is was he the one that like?

475
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: Who is the other wrestlers that like you were like,

476
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 2: oh my god.

477
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: I didn't not like wrestling. I just didn't know anything

478
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,239
Speaker 3: about it. Like I didn't tune in every week like

479
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 3: middle school was like, oh my god, Buffy the Vampire

480
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 3: Slayer is gonna be on, not like oh man, I

481
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 3: can't wait for Monday night nightro.

482
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: It was.

483
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Speaker 2: I mean, I was I was a little boy at

484
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: that time, so I loved the raw.

485
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean I tuned in, but I wasn't.

486
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: I just like wasn't a diehard fan because it was

487
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 3: hard to relate to the women at the time, like

488
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 3: they're in bikinis and he whipped cream on.

489
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't there yet, but I want to aspire,

490
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah for you, they were for us.

491
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: Yeahah the eye candy.

492
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: So I mean, I like, I looked up to Stacy

493
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 3: and Trish and lead up, but it wasn't or Molly Holly.

494
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: But I wasn't.

495
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: I couldn't see myself doing that feeling like a diva.

496
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: Even when I started wrestling, I was like what am

497
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 3: I doing?

498
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: Like why did I do this?

499
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 3: But really it was for my little brother to help

500
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: him get on the right path. Because now my brothers

501
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: they wanted to be just like my dad. My little

502
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 3: brother and I were almost two years apart, and he

503
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: had a really bad drug addiction. So I thought if

504
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: I started doing this, he could get on the right

505
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 3: path and he altiate. Like he ended up dying almost

506
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: a year after I started, and then I just took

507
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: his dream and turned it into mine. But he was

508
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 3: the one that like didn't miss a show, a pay

509
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 3: per view. I mean, he followed my dad around everywhere

510
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 3: like he would have been the man. So my dad

511
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: never thought like I was going to carry the name

512
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: I did.

513
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you know what they say said I said,

514
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 2: George Washington didn't want to be the president.

515
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

516
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know my life about.

517
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 2: It now, but I don't know how that sounded really good. Well,

518
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: he was the general. He was the general and and

519
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: he didn't want to be president. But it just landed

520
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: on him because of I understand what I was saying

521
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 2: about you.

522
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, that's an incredible origin story, and

523
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 6: you're you're doing okay, and then something like that's so cool,

524
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 6: it's that's amazing.

525
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 4: So when you reach these heights to have that like

526
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: with you too, you know, because talking about with these matches.

527
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 4: They are kind of somewhat like predetermined, right, but there's

528
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 4: still this moment where your character and you as a

529
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 4: athlete restler get to a place where like, look, you

530
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 4: are a champion or are you are headlining this thing?

531
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 4: And there are like moments where you can take that

532
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 4: in and appreciate it. So it's it's always nice to

533
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 4: have like and we always ask people who are they

534
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 4: thinking about when they reached my brother?

535
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 3: So I don't I'm going to try to articulate this

536
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: the right way. My little brother was wrestling and he

537
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 3: actually had failed two drug tests to get into WWE,

538
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: so I mean he was really struggling. But I also

539
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 3: think he couldn't deal with the pressures of being my

540
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: dad's son. And I think when he was either wrestling

541
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 3: in Japan or on the indies, I don't think he

542
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: knew how to internalize what the fans would say about him,

543
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: like you're compared to Rick Flair and you're his son, Like,

544
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if he could handle that.

545
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: So when you ask how do I or.

546
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 3: How do I create this persona or how do I

547
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: be the best bad guy? I really do sometimes think

548
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: about all that pressure on my brother, and I'm like, like, okay,

549
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 3: come on, take on that pressure for him because he couldn't.

550
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 2: How do you deal with that pressure of being I.

551
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: Just continue to get better.

552
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm protecting him in a way still

553
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 3: even though he's not here, But like, I hate that

554
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 3: I couldn't protect him from feeling those insecurities, so I

555
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: kind of like take them on into building this. Like

556
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: I wish I could be more like my character in

557
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 3: my real life. No, Like I think Charlotte's just so

558
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, like such a bad the character is

559
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: such a badass, not badass, but like just a bad bitch.

560
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

561
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: No, like, yeah, I don't know how to I get it.

562
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's some big Sister of the yearshit

563
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: right there. Honestly, that's awesome. We'll be right back after

564
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: this quick break. Let's go back into time where this

565
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: match took place. This is a segment where we go

566
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 2: over all pop culture. We see what's going around in life.

567
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: This game slash match took place in November eighteenth, twenty eighteen,

568
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: number one movie The Grinch, number one song Thank You Next,

569
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 2: Ariana Grande been hearing a lot of that with an

570
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: eight year old girl as of late the movies we

571
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: had in the cinema or Creed two, Bohemian Raw City,

572
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: A Star Is Born, Really Good Love, Bradley Cooper, David Hockney.

573
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: Hockney's portrait of an artist pool with two figures. What

574
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: is that?

575
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 6: Classic painting? Just a little art talk on this episode.

576
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 6: Little art talk, Eh, we like art on here man

577
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 6: trying to be more refined more over here.

578
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: Well, let's get back to it. The Super Bowl champions

579
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: were the pats Hey sold for ninety Mili bro Patrick Mahomes,

580
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 2: Crimson Tide won the NC two A championship with old

581
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: ball coach Nick Sable. N Kyler Murray was a heisman.

582
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: John Gruden returns back to The Raiders after being in

583
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: the broadcast boo for a decade The Raiders. What was

584
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: Charlotte Flair like in twenty eighteen? Ash Lee? Oh yeahsh

585
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: I feel like I like that. I'm going.

586
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: So what made Survivor series so but not I mean

587
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: important but impactful?

588
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: Was my opponent at the time.

589
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: Becky Lynch was like super red hot and Ronda was

590
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: the baddest woman on the planet.

591
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: Like that's what we had labeled.

592
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: Her as and a week before Survivor Series, Becky had

593
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: her face bashed in and was supposed to be wrestling

594
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: Ronda at Survivor Series, and my boss was like, well

595
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: Ronda can't wrestle. We need the next best thing, meaning

596
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: like we had a promoted match. Becky can't wrestle her, Well,

597
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: who are we gonna have wrestle her? Like it has

598
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 3: to be just as good, if not better.

599
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: So I was like, I have to wrestle Ronda.

600
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: But the reason, like you see me being like I

601
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: have to wrestle Ronda is because for almost a year,

602
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: the rumor on the street was Charlotte Flair versus Ronda

603
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: Rousey for WrestleMania. So if I was going in to

604
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: wrestle her at Survivor Series on a one on one,

605
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: we're not getting the WrestleMania match.

606
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: I mean.

607
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: So I was like, oh my god. One, this match

608
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: isn't promoted. Two they wanted to see Becky versus Ronda. Three,

609
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 3: Well what's my future? And I got to LA a

610
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: week early and just thought to myself, like, whatever goes

611
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: down that night, people have to want to see Charlotte

612
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: Flair versus Ronda again, or what's gonna make it that memorable. Plus,

613
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: like at that time, Becky was hot, but Ronda was untouchable.

614
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: She was like untouchable.

615
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: That's why this I think this is such a when

616
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: we get into the match, this is such a huge

617
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: match because she was the biggest UFC, the biggest thing

618
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Speaker 2: for UFC, and then she finally like she blew up

619
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: UFC in the women's department and then she got knocked

620
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: out or whatever, and then she came to We.

621
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Speaker 3: Would have not Maine evented WrestleMania had it not been

622
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: for Ronda, hands down, like when she wanted to kind

623
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: of join what we had already started to build. But

624
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: her star power, her credibility, her outside influence, the audience

625
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 3: that she brought, Like kudos to her.

626
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 4: Man.

627
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: I know that.

628
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: You know, someone said in her book that you know,

629
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: she couldn't wrestle, but at the end of the day,

630
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: it really didn't matter.

631
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: She was Rohnda and she didn't need to.

632
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: She had such like an aura tour and really did

633
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: figure it out and you know, brought that much.

634
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: To the table.

635
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: So like I thank her for what she did for us,

636
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: because like she didn't have to come wrestle, like she'd

637
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: already done at all.

638
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was real.

639
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: So she just added that legitimacy to what we were

640
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: trying to do that we didn't have. And she caught

641
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: on Like this Survivor Series match, I don't think because

642
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: it wasn't, you know, part of that overall big picture

643
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: at the end of Mania and the two belts being won.

644
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: But like, like, dude, I just thought she picked it

645
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: up so fast without having like any wrestling background or school,

646
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: Like she just knew how to react.

647
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: And if you watch it, she had like so much

648
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: star power.

649
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you watch the match, it looked different.

650
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: Well yeah, because we were beating the ship out of

651
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: each other, not even that, but and she.

652
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: She was using, she was using all the UFC armbar.

653
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 8: Shiting it over and incorporating it like that never really

654
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 8: been seen to me at least.

655
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: Well it's been seen, but not believable. Not believable, not believable,

656
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: And that is what's most important in our business. You

657
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: can do all these moves, you can do all I mean,

658
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: sure I know how to do a submission, but do

659
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: I know how to break your arm?

660
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 9: No?

661
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: But she does.

662
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what made her special, and that's what made

663
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: that match so impactful.

664
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: Is because you were like, well.

665
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 3: Is is Ronda going to break her arm?

666
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: I don't like, Yeah, that just made all the difference.

667
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: What's her biggest strength?

668
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: What is hers that she's been in a fight before before?

669
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: Said that Jack break down Rondo a little for us. Yeah, Ronda.

670
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: So we talked about it coming in from the UFC,

671
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: dubbed the Baddest woman on the planet, ak rowdy Ronda

672
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: kind of had that rowdy, roddy piper persona. Then we

673
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: had flares. This was like a legacy start fight to say,

674
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: I like what it harkens back to. She debuted in

675
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: January at the Royal Rumbo with Alexis Bliss, Charlotte Oshka

676
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: Oscar I always misronounced that signed the WWE contract in February,

677
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: won the Women's Row Championship, and like Charlotte sayin just

678
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: shot up the ranks and just.

679
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: She was untouchable.

680
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: I'm saying it was only having like three minute matches

681
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: besides the tag match that she debuted on Mania alongside

682
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: Kurt Angle versus Steph McMahon and Triple H.

683
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: Is there ever kind of a moment you as someone

684
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 4: who's been doing this for a career that when someone

685
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: kind of comes in and just skyrockets is a little

686
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 4: bit of like like not resent, a little bit of

687
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 4: just like I wish I could have that orsin just

688
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 4: good for the whole picture.

689
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: Being naturally competitive yet because I'm like, I want it

690
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: all I want, Yeah, but in order to grow, you

691
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: have to have someone here. So for me, when I

692
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: was across the ring, across the ring from Ronda, or

693
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: when I look back and look at Survivor Series big picture, Ronda,

694
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: I felt like was the only one at that time

695
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: that could really do this with my character or do

696
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 3: this like with me as a as a superstar because

697
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: she I didn't think she was as good of a

698
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: wrestler as me, but it is so much more than that,

699
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: and she had that or that star power. So I

700
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 3: felt like as much as well, yeah, like you need better,

701
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 3: you need competition to grow or to get better, And

702
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: I thought she did that for me that night, as

703
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: much as I helped her through the match and talk

704
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: to her and knew her strengths and weaknesses and watched

705
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 3: all of her matches prior to that, going Okay, I

706
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 3: know she does this well, I know she does this well.

707
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: She doesn't do this well, but she knows her submission,

708
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: so if we get lost, she can do this. Like

709
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: I really thought out every part of that match to

710
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: make us both look amazing. But she was also doing

711
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 3: this for me that night too, which is why I mean.

712
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: I iron Yeah, now take us through that. Do you

713
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: scout your opponents?

714
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 4: Are?

715
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: You did her because she didn't have that she is new.

716
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: I did her so like this is and and and

717
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: it was such a big match.

718
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: It was a big match, and.

719
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,479
Speaker 2: I wanted to make it look good.

720
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: Well no, but I was like, I have to be

721
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 3: in the main event of WrestleMania. Like if this match

722
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 3: doesn't go well and it's a dud and no one

723
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: gives it, like no one cares, this was what I

724
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: was meant to do.

725
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: I kept saying, I'm an Maine at Mania, I'm a

726
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: main of at Mania.

727
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: And then like what because someone gets hurt, I have

728
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: to breathe a replacement, Like, no, no one's taken my spot.

729
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what I kept thinking.

730
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: How much is the pressure to kind of push your

731
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 4: storyline on you or coming more like top.

732
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: Well, the aftermath of.

733
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: What happened with the kindostick and beating her up and

734
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 3: beating up the referees. It was so chaotic, so unhinged,

735
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: so believable. But how could they not continue that? Like

736
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone had seen two women up until

737
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: that point. I mean she took a beating.

738
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: Yeah that was coming from you? Or is that like

739
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 4: I get to be.

740
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 3: Like, hey, I would like to beat up the whole

741
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: referee staff, even though I think the fans think I

742
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: have no power, but I I mean, I'll take it.

743
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: But no, they needed to put steam behind it. But

744
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: like that was on me to create the moments and

745
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: the visuals and what I would what I saw Charlotte

746
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 3: feeling like like during that moment, like Ronna Rousey's going

747
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 3: to beat me. No, I think I'm the baddest woman

748
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: on the planet. Like even in the beginning, there was

749
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: such an intensity that I had to build myself up

750
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 3: to to make because in my mind, I'm thinking, Charlotte

751
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: believes that she's more superior than Ronda Rousey, even though

752
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: Ronda Rowsey comes from this. It was she has an

753
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: Olympic medal right in judo, So like I'm thinking, oh,

754
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: I can be an Olympic two o person too, or Olympian.

755
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: So you had this opportunity and then but you brought

756
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 4: the execution you brought I brought.

757
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 3: I had the opportunity, but I brought the execution, the intensity,

758
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: the momentum.

759
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: I know how to feel the crowd.

760
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: I mean, they were chanting, we want Becky to thank

761
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: you Charlotte by the end of it.

762
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: Wow, talk about a turn in the crowd, man.

763
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: But that's credit to Rondo too.

764
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: You're not saying like it's both of us, both characters.

765
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: It takes two to tango.

766
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: Takes two to tango.

767
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: Now let's jump into Charlotte Flair. Oh yeah, let's go baby.

768
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 10: Build from the Queens Snatch right here, they were a chance,

769
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 10: like they did not want this match, and by the

770
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 10: end of it, they were chanting, this is awesome.

771
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, and I flipped.

772
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: Sorry I saw that, and I was like, oh yeah,

773
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: I had to flip off the fans that night.

774
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: They weren't paying this is awesome.

775
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were just chanting the wrong thing.

776
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: So I flipped them off, and then they were chanting

777
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 3: this is awesome, and I was like, you're welcome.

778
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: I show you don't want to roller coaster, you got it?

779
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was actually the first match back after COVID

780
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 3: that we had fans.

781
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: It was in Texas too.

782
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 6: But Charlotte was I mean, this was twenty eighteen was

783
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 6: a killer year for you. Of course, build from the

784
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 6: Queen City. We got a show seven h four, A

785
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 6: little love around here. Queen Charlotte aka the Queen of

786
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 6: w W. You know the signature moves, the figure eight,

787
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 6: the natural selection, the Queen's boot beat. Notably in twenty eighteen,

788
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 6: back in April beat Ashka at that was Wrestlmingia thirty

789
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 6: four down in New Orleans. She had that crazy underf

790
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 6: hed streak, like nine hundred and fourteen days or whatever.

791
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 6: That was huge. The rivalry with Becky was going on

792
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 6: around this time was heating up. You had the Last

793
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 6: Woman's Standing match where she beat Charlotte. Then there was

794
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 6: the DQ at the Super Showdown, and then I mean

795
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 6: the accolades.

796
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: I could give flowers for hours.

797
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 6: Here, give me a job at FTD took the women's

798
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 6: division of New Heights, went undefeated on sixteen pay per

799
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 6: view matches, one of the first women a headline a

800
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 6: pay per view main event, more titles than any other

801
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 6: women's superstar, first female superstar.

802
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,959
Speaker 2: To headline a raw SmackDown and pay per view event.

803
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: I believe my notes are correct here, and of course

804
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: a little foreshadowing first women the main event WrestleMania thirty five,

805
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: Ronda Becky.

806
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 6: We did that match with Becky Lynch show. We'll talk

807
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 6: about that a little bit later, but just a little

808
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 6: bit of the flowers. Just got to give the flowers here. Now,

809
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 6: was this your first time using the name Flair?

810
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: So funny? He said the Oscar match.

811
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't allowed to use the name Flair or use

812
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 3: my last name, uh until after the match with Oscar

813
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: WrestleMania thirty four. I showed up at TV the next

814
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: night and my boss at the time was like, you

815
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: can use the last name Flair now.

816
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: I was like, did you have to earn it? I

817
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: guess that the fair crazy. That's what.

818
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to chop. I wasn't allowed to woo.

819
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: I wasn't like, I'm like, you name me Charlotte. Like

820
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 3: I think they thought it was a joke, Like because

821
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 3: my dad was billed from Charlotte, North Carolina. I said,

822
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: this kid, we'll just name her Charlotte.

823
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: It turned out though.

824
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: Awesome, but I can't believe that you didn't get to

825
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: be able to use your own last name.

826
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's the pressure, like, yeah, just being

827
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 3: overshadowed by the last name.

828
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: So when you when they finally said that to you,

829
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 2: you said, all right, now it's my fucking time.

830
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

831
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: Is that when you're like, this is my fucking time now.

832
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

833
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 3: I might have said that since thirty two.

834
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: That's what you thought, That's what I thought, that's what

835
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: you thought. But when they did that, that validated I.

836
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, yeah, bring on the hate.

837
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: Bring But I had already, like I had so many

838
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: incredible moments up and up until that, except the Oscar

839
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 3: match was just really good, super impactful. She had that

840
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: undefeated streak. It was the first female singles match on

841
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: a pay per view since Trish Stratus and Mickey James,

842
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: and that had been about ten or eleven years.

843
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 9: Wow.

844
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 4: Wow.

845
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: So it just like it all worked out.

846
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: You're at the prime right here. You're getting to like

847
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: the top of the pinnacle, especially being a pioneer for

848
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: women in this specific sport, and it goes to you know, foreshadow,

849
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 2: go to you guys doing the three way match in WrestleMania.

850
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: But like this is kind of you know, the start,

851
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 2: because you needed, like you said, you needed the star

852
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: power of Rhonda. You needed you because you know how

853
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: to do your shit and you're you. And then you

854
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: needed Becky because she's also got her she's got her

855
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: different dynamic. But this is crazy. Now, can you describe

856
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: your wrestling style us? We were trying to go over

857
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: it earlier. I was like, what do you How do.

858
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: You describe it?

859
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 2: The same athletic of course?

860
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's my.

861
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 4: How to.

862
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 3: I think adaptability is that the right adaptability to any size,

863
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: Like I can work big or small. I like, if

864
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 3: someone's smaller, I can work down to their size, or

865
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 3: if someone's bigger, Like I'm actually pretty tall compared to most.

866
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: Of the girls.

867
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 3: I only think there's one other girl taller. But I

868
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: can just change my style versatility, versatility, yeah, I would,

869
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 3: I think, or just being super aggressive and it.

870
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: Showed for sure. Yeah. What what pro athlete from another

871
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: sport are you most like?

872
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 3: Oh that's a tough question because Tom Brady's beloved, isn't he.

873
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 4: Depends as he gets Yeah, not met life either.

874
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: It's like a thing like that. I like that. I

875
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: like that.

876
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: Thought was Mayweather because he was coming up with my dad.

877
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: But no Tom Tom.

878
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: All Day Mayweather too though Tom I like it. Two

879
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: pretty good ones. Jackie Jacob take us into the match.

880
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 6: As we said, we we touched on a little bit

881
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 6: of this earlier, but Ronda was really climbing the ranks,

882
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 6: like pretty much owning the raw division.

883
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: Uh she got the belt from Nikki bella earlier.

884
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 6: They also had a little clash backstage her and Becky,

885
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 6: and then we're setting up that fight.

886
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: But of course, as.

887
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 6: We know, Becky got the bloody nose, couldn't fight when

888
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 6: the SmackDown Raw, there was the invasions, some dirty hits,

889
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 6: all that stuff. Becky ends up with the broken nose

890
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 6: and gives us that iconic image of her standing there

891
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 6: in the tunnel with.

892
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: The blood all over her face.

893
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 6: Uh So Charlotte ends up being chosen as the replacement

894
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 6: for this fight for Becky. So that kind of sets

895
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 6: us up on the stage here and we're really building

896
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 6: that that three way rivalry of Becky, Ronda, and Charlotte

897
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 6: is is kind of the the triumvirent trio of the

898
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 6: of the big dogs in in the women's division.

899
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: So at this point, I know you're not you're not

900
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: fighting Becky, But what's your relationship with Becky at this time?

901
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: We're cordial.

902
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 2: We're cordial. No, we're good cordial.

903
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: I still think there's I still think there is some

904
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: story left there, so.

905
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 4: There's a little meeting say that.

906
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a nail on the coffin yet.

907
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 4: What's the greatest match? The next next one?

908
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 9: Baby?

909
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 4: I like that.

910
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 3: Our Survivor Series match was actually really incredible.

911
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: It's so hard to pick.

912
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: It just wasn't as different as the Ronda and I won,

913
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 3: like impactful. But Becky and I have had a lot

914
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: of great matches. But our Survivor Series match was pretty

915
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: incredible too, which was like three years ago.

916
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 4: That was one of the ones you sent over, right,

917
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 4: we were digging into.

918
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one and the Evolution one, but the Survivor

919
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 3: Series one, there was just some I don't know, there's

920
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: just when you want to be the best hard.

921
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: Like you got to now when you found out you

922
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: kind of talked about it a little earlier, when you

923
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: found out you were getting this match. Give us your

924
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: thought process, beat for beat. You're you're pissed off because

925
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: they didn't promote it, but give us. How what were

926
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 2: you thinking when you found before you even fought this match,

927
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: When you found out you got this match?

928
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: Well, who said the word replacement?

929
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 2: Is that me? Like?

930
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: No, no, no, but like even that's what I was.

931
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: I was the replacement.

932
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm sorry, oh, I'm not a no,

933
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 3: but that's I had to replace Becky in this match.

934
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: And I was just like, well what happens after that?

935
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: Like I had beaten OSCA at WrestleMania, they bring Ronda

936
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: in and word on the street was Charlotte Flair versus

937
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: Ronda Rousey WrestleMania, not saying that it was going to

938
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 3: be the main event, but I was just like, huh,

939
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: this is not how this is supposed to go. And

940
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 3: I was also coming off of losing an Evolution the

941
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 3: DQ in Australia, which pay per view was ut with.

942
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 2: Becky let me double check.

943
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 3: So I was like, man, I just can't catch a break.

944
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: And I just kept thinking to myself like this is

945
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: not where this is gonna end. And had that match

946
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: not gone as well as it did and have Ronda

947
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 3: laying there in defeat or the two like bulls, it

948
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: just was it was like a perfect storm I just

949
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna let it happen. I was like, no one's

950
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: taking my spot. I was what's going through my head.

951
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: This match aside, like what's the process like when like

952
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 4: a match is getting developed from Like how much time

953
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 4: do you have? Okay, you versus ex wrestler, Like do

954
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 4: you guys are are you game planning about what you

955
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: want to do? Are you talking or you just train?

956
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 4: Like how much time before the actual match happens? In

957
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 4: finding out and how does it go to develop? You

958
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 4: know the storylines and some of the you know, the

959
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 4: craft of it all.

960
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: So I went to LA early to meet with Ronda

961
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 3: because up until that point, everything that she had done

962
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: was very hands on and the producers always worked with

963
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: her on her matches. So I went there with a

964
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: game plan with the match. I didn't know about the aftermath,

965
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 3: meaning like the referees, the beat down, the DQ because

966
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: even in my mind, I was like, even if I lose,

967
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 3: I'm still only losing to the baddest one on the planet,

968
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: Like it's not the end of my career. But if

969
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: people had already seen that match, you can't build that

970
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 3: to WrestleMania unless it just left you like Oh, I've

971
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: got to want more. I've got to see more. But

972
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 3: each match is different, each opponent is different. Like Becky

973
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 3: and I, if you put us in a room, we

974
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: could put a match together in thirty minutes and it'd

975
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: be a WrestleMania worthy match. Yeah, Like we just have

976
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 3: that kind of chemistry, chemistry, report the story, we think alike.

977
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: With how we view matches, and that makes it easier.

978
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 2: At this point in Rohndo's career, she probably didn't have

979
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: that creativity yet. Oh that's good point, you know what

980
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: I mean for you, Like, that's why you probably went early,

981
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: because you were putting the brain power into it.

982
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 3: I went early because I wanted to put my hands

983
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 3: on her. I wanted to see how she moved and again,

984
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: and when you have an opponent that new, you want

985
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 3: to work to their strengths.

986
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: So even the beginning of.

987
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: That match, like I would not naturally like throw a

988
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 3: high kick or look like I'm throwing a punch, like

989
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: I don't grapple like that, but I knew like that's

990
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: what would translate to her. So like in wrestling, you

991
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: lock up, but in her sport, you don't. So I

992
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, how can I make this more her

993
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: style but still make it a professional wrestling match, and that.

994
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 2: That's what it felt like when you watched it. I

995
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 2: was like, this looks like like you don't I didn't.

996
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: I kept on saying, you don't see a lot of

997
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: this before.

998
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 3: This, but but if you really break down that match

999
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 3: besides the after match, it's pretty basic.

1000
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: It wasn't like maybe because I believe more of Ronda

1001
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: doing all these arm things.

1002
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't believe her like phony wrestling, And that's

1003
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: what I wanted to bring to the table.

1004
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: Okay, like even if even if I lose an r tonight,

1005
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna.

1006
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: Be worth it.

1007
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: Oh.

1008
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 3: I just kept saying like, Okay, this was a really funny,

1009
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: little funny story.

1010
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, she can't be that fast.

1011
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 3: So when I asked her to throw her jabs at

1012
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: me and like I don't know what I was.

1013
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: Thinking, I was like, oh no, I'll be oh absolutely not, oh.

1014
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: My god, breathing sucking cover and just take it.

1015
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what I was thinking, but she was.

1016
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: She didn't really jet like she was holding back, but

1017
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: in practice, I was like, hey, just.

1018
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: Give me one of those whatever you do oh No.

1019
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, this is why she's an Olympian

1020
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 3: and I'm a pro wrestler. No, Like I knew what

1021
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: she could do, but it was just incredible to see

1022
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 3: her in action, Dore.

1023
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 4: Is it common for to do like, I don't know

1024
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 4: if you call rehearsals or sparring matches ahead of time

1025
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 4: of a big match, or just because it was Rnda Rousey,

1026
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 4: she's a little bit more.

1027
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 3: I just wanted to see how I would react. I

1028
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: almost said the word cell I almost.

1029
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to.

1030
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 3: See how I would react to that because you don't.

1031
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: See sure many girls.

1032
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: With the movement.

1033
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's so different from what you're used to.

1034
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 3: Get, so different, like I've never thrown a high kick

1035
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: in my life. Like I was just like, but I

1036
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 3: felt like I really went into that match going like

1037
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: she might call herself the baddest woman on the planet,

1038
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 3: but like I am the baddest woman in professional wrestling,

1039
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: and no one's telling me otherwise.

1040
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: That's right, and I have to bring that to that.

1041
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: So you left that match thinking that.

1042
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: I left that match thinking that a hundred percent.

1043
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: And I am someone who definitely like holds things in

1044
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: so if I do have a bad match, I kind

1045
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: of let it fester, and instead of letting it fester

1046
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: to the point that it doesn't ruin the next but

1047
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 3: I take all of the bad from that one and

1048
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: make sure that never happens again. Like really a student

1049
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: of the game. I'm not saying it does every time,

1050
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 3: but I learned so much from this and others. Did

1051
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 3: you try to change it?

1052
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 4: Did you play like competitive sports growing up?

1053
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1054
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 4: Which what do you play?

1055
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 9: Well?

1056
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 3: I started out in gymnastics, and then my parents made

1057
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 3: me choose between well. When I got to middle school,

1058
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: my parents wanted me to like play middle school sports, track, volleyball,

1059
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 3: and basketball, but I couldn't keep up the hours of gymnastics,

1060
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 3: so I played all three of those.

1061
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: But then I fell in love.

1062
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: With all start cheer leading nice, but I had to

1063
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 3: give that up for volleyball, and then played volleyball at

1064
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: app State for two years, and they made some terrible

1065
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 3: choices and went to in Cee State. That all worked out,

1066
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 3: but I wanted to be a big fish and a

1067
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: little pond.

1068
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: Played there for two years.

1069
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 3: It was fun, but wrestling to me was like what

1070
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,959
Speaker 3: I've been the best at? Uh overall, So Rondo once

1071
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: told me. She was like, you really do look at

1072
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 3: wrestling like at your Olympics, And I was like, I know,

1073
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 3: because it means that much to me.

1074
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1075
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: So he now, do you have any like pre match

1076
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 2: routines or pre match superstitions that you do all the time?

1077
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: Lacing my boots?

1078
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 2: How do you lace them?

1079
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 3: I just take forever because they're like the old school boots. Yeah,

1080
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: and I'm not willing to part with them. So that's like,

1081
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: do you takes like twenty five minutes minutes. My assistant

1082
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 3: the other day was like, can you just buy some

1083
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 3: boots that have zippers? Like this is taking forever? Yeah,

1084
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: Like he'll help try to. I'm like, no, you can't

1085
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 3: help me lace. I have to lace them. No one

1086
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: can lace my boots.

1087
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: And so it's it's a ritual. Yeah, it's a ritual. Yeah,

1088
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: And what are you thinking about when you're doing it?

1089
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 3: Like, my boots are so important to me that instead

1090
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 3: of buying new boots when I came back, I had

1091
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 3: all my old boots but dazzle, so they looked a

1092
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 3: little different because I'm so superstitious with them.

1093
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean, we all have something left

1094
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 4: foot first or right for it first, left foot, left

1095
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 4: foot first.

1096
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: Just because right is my dominant so I feel like

1097
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 3: left needs to be the tightest.

1098
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: Jackie break down the fight, man, this fight, epic fight.

1099
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: My words will not do it justice. But from the

1100
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: rip it was evident this was about to be insanely physical,

1101
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: insanely chaotic. Back and forth. We open up with a

1102
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 2: big elbow.

1103
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 6: We're trading submissions, and then an early moment that really

1104
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,479
Speaker 6: set this thing off was RNDA into the lower turn

1105
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 6: buckle face first, Charlotte throwing her down. It was like,

1106
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 6: all right, we're in for a crazy one right now.

1107
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 6: Back and forth. Some guys hit the stairs, and the

1108
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 6: stairs gets me every time.

1109
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: And like you hit the when you get out of

1110
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: the ring and you hit the wall, like that's what

1111
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: hurts me. That's gotta hurt you.

1112
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 3: I mean that's usually you're like, man, I hit my pinky,

1113
00:54:58,440 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: Like it's just like odd.

1114
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: You know how to fall, you know how to fall.

1115
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: You know how to like what part of your back

1116
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 2: you got to hit and stuff? Yeah, sorry for cutting

1117
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 2: you off, jack Bro.

1118
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 3: You'll get the wind knocked out of me sometimes or

1119
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: like really hit but I don't know. You just have

1120
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 3: to like you're also in front of like there thirty thousand. Yeah,

1121
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 3: your adrenaline's gone. It's like the day later, you're like

1122
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 3: the worst.

1123
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 2: What's the cardio you have to put in for a match?

1124
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: So different?

1125
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: That's right kind of cardio.

1126
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: I feel like, this is what I tell the newcomers.

1127
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 3: You probably blow yourself up more then the match blows you,

1128
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: like blows you up because you're talking, you're breathing, you're fighting,

1129
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 3: you're screaming, you're yelling. But if you can just like

1130
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 3: stay in the moment and not let the adrenaline like

1131
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 3: an adrenaline dump crash you, you'll be okay. I've like

1132
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 3: not maybe I get it from my dad. That's been

1133
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: like my strongest part of my game is that I

1134
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 3: never get winded. But I also like do conditioning in

1135
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 3: the ring like once or twice a week. But I

1136
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: don't know, do you. I'm just comfortable out there. So

1137
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 3: when you're not comfortable and you're nervous and you're screaming,

1138
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 3: like you blow yourself up just by like breathing hard. Yeah, ye,

1139
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: wasting energy.

1140
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: I would do like a because we used to do

1141
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: like metabolics. It's a type of conditioning where you'd run

1142
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 2: like two minute drill and I'd run like ten routes

1143
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 2: in a row, so you're pooped with no rest time.

1144
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: I would do something like that in the ring, and

1145
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: then during my rest time I'd get a microphone and

1146
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 2: I'd just start having to talk. So like, you could

1147
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: you train yourself to talk while you're tired?

1148
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 4: Do you have to do that?

1149
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1150
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 3: When I'm out there, it's just like something when my

1151
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 3: music hits and I'm like in the zone. In the zone,

1152
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been more tired, and you know it's funny.

1153
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 3: I feel like I get more tired and like the

1154
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 3: really short matches than the really long matches because you're like, man,

1155
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 3: I gotta get everything in four minutes crant, which never

1156
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 3: turns out well.

1157
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

1158
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, screaming at the fans does blow you up, though.

1159
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 4: Got it.

1160
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 6: There was definitely some trash talk in this when Ronda

1161
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 6: was screaming. Was twenty minute match, so yeah, I mean

1162
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 6: way long for Rhonda this time, wouldn't you say, like

1163
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 6: really like like three.

1164
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 3: Times as long as anything one of her longest I thought, so.

1165
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: I thought she did so well in our equip match too.

1166
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 3: That one doesn't get that. Like I hated Armenia match

1167
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 3: the single like she liked it. I hated it.

1168
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: Your infro was sick though with the helicopter.

1169
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: No, that's thirty five wrestling her in a singles a

1170
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 3: couple of years later.

1171
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: I know what you mean.

1172
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 3: Okay, alright, I quip match, but yeah, I don't know.

1173
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 3: She just she just took a beating of a lifetime here.

1174
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 2: Now when did you in this match? When did that

1175
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: fuck it meter just go?

1176
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: I even walked down blue T shirt.

1177
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: So you knew not go with my gear.

1178
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:56,479
Speaker 4: We knew we were going.

1179
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,479
Speaker 2: We knew we were going around party.

1180
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: The fucking it was already out the window. I was like,

1181
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm a replacement?

1182
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 4: What is this?

1183
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: So you just you went in knowing you were going

1184
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: to bash her with that bamboo thingy.

1185
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 1: Well, I just went in there going like I had

1186
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: to believe all the hype, like I had to. I

1187
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I just got to her like.

1188
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: If I could make it through the feud with my

1189
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 3: best friend, I could make it through anything. So this

1190
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: was just like, no, I know you're the new shiny toy,

1191
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: but I'll be the toy for like like.

1192
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 2: I get it now, Queen the Queen forever. Now what

1193
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 2: what made what made the Queen choose the bamboo thingy?

1194
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: And why didn't Is that our favorite prop of all time?

1195
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 5: Oh?

1196
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 3: I don't have a favorite prop. That's just what they

1197
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 3: allowed me to use that night.

1198
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: And those under it's an underread.

1199
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: Oh it doesn't.

1200
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: You'll just not feel good. No, that's in like blood

1201
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 2: Sport and Ship when they're like hitting them due.

1202
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 3: Anytime I get hit, I just keep thinking of that

1203
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 3: night where I'm like, oh man, I really still over,

1204
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 3: like oh this is not good, like really over my paycheck.

1205
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 4: That year, and real creative use of the chair in

1206
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 4: this match.

1207
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was y put her neck into it first,

1208
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: and they were like, no, no, you really are going

1209
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: to kill her. You gotta put it.

1210
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: On this way. Thank god I had the rest out there.

1211
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they had every ref in the day.

1212
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: What's your favorite moment of this event?

1213
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: Oh?

1214
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 3: Probably, Well, I guess it's a two part. I loved

1215
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 3: when I pushed her and she landed on her butt.

1216
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 3: No one had seen Ronda vulnerable like that before, and

1217
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 3: that was like kind of on the fly, like I

1218
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 3: didn't say, hey, I'm gonna shove you this hard. I

1219
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 3: just shoved her that hard. So it was so like

1220
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 3: organic and real. But then I love that part. And

1221
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 3: then with the with the referees, I just loved like

1222
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: these are my friends and I'm gonna spear them and

1223
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 3: hit him and I don't have to like lay off.

1224
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 3: And then when I pushed the one a little ref

1225
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: through the ropes.

1226
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: Like I was trying not to laugh. That was a

1227
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: great cell. That was thanks, thanks for making me look good.

1228
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 6: Like there was every ref in the company had to

1229
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 6: be out there isn't So now.

1230
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: That was when you pushed her. That was your rocky

1231
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: Russian moment where he bleeds this bliring you got him,

1232
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 2: rock you got him.

1233
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good.

1234
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. We had an elbow earlier. They drew blood too

1235
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: in this one.

1236
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,959
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh man, sorry about that.

1237
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: And then a big in the middle. It was man

1238
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: action back from from the jack.

1239
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: That was real. That was just an unlucky.

1240
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 2: Shot.

1241
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, after a match like this is like, hey, I'm

1242
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 4: sorry I pushed into this. Oh, I'm sorry I caught

1243
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 4: you here. I'm sorry I.

1244
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: Killed you with the bamboo thing for fifteen minutes. No,

1245
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: like you showers that was a good cell. There you go.

1246
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: In apologizing, Hey I'm sorry, I'm gonna yeah.

1247
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's unspoken. It's unspoken part of doing business.

1248
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: But it's also probably you guys, like if you get

1249
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 2: a great reaction from the crowd, you guys probably get

1250
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: back in the back, like we fucking killed it.

1251
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 3: Heck, yes, Well, she she told a friend of mine

1252
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 3: or who was also a talent. She was like, well,

1253
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 3: I just know if I'm gonna stiff Charlotte, she's gonna

1254
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 3: stiff me back, like meaning like if you hit too hard.

1255
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: But I think that's a neat.

1256
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 3: You just have that rapport with certain people, or like

1257
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 3: you hit your friends harder, like Becky and I can

1258
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 3: go out there and yeah do what like yeah, best friends.

1259
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: I can hte you harder.

1260
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: You do business as business is being done there, it is. Yeah,

1261
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 2: it's kind of like when we would evaluate the referees

1262
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: for that week's game, the very like first fifteen minutes

1263
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: of the game. You can always see how the refs

1264
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: are gonna call it. Are they gonna call it tight?

1265
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: Are they gonna let us play? You do business as

1266
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: business is being done that they go consistently through the match,

1267
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 2: probably like your opponent. Yes, except you can't put those

1268
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: reps through the through the ropes.

1269
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: That's very good.

1270
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: Gronk tried to put that through a rope on Gronk

1271
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: did a leg drop ones in a football game, that's

1272
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: what he did.

1273
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 4: He did a people's elbow.

1274
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: Wait, he was in a Wrestlemaniam, Yes, yes, rob so

1275
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 3: he I think pre before that we were playing the

1276
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 3: Bills and they were holding him every play.

1277
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: He got so mad. This guy intercepted a ball and

1278
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: fell down and Gronk went and people's elbowed him like

1279
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: it was fucking wrestling. He got suspended for two games

1280
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: or something because he like really he was a big guy.

1281
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 3: You know.

1282
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 4: It was crazy.

1283
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: Robbie, I've met him once.

1284
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 4: I think, oh, you gotta you love him.

1285
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 2: He's our guy. We'll be right back after this quick break.

1286
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 4: I got one real quick technical question. So so much

1287
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 4: a part like a big match like this is just

1288
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 4: like selling it and being entertainment value. Something we're filmmakers

1289
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 4: or something that I think gets lost the sauce a

1290
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 4: little bit is the collaboration between the cameras.

1291
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: Everything is there.

1292
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 4: Is that something that's like rehearsed or practice or are

1293
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 4: those camera guys just know the bead to know the stuff,

1294
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 4: like how does that collaboration come together.

1295
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 3: That's also another element to what we do. If you

1296
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 3: can figure that out or listen to the guys that

1297
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 3: are behind the camera trying to tell you, hey, we

1298
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 3: need this shot or this shot or or if you're

1299
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 3: out there and what's consciously thinking about that, that also

1300
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 3: tells a better story for the audience, so they can

1301
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 3: connect you more if you're constantly if your face is

1302
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 3: constantly on TV. This match during the match didn't have

1303
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 3: as many bullet points that we needed. Like I knew

1304
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 3: I was gonna do the back flip off outside or

1305
01:03:58,880 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 3: the back.

1306
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: Corner I knew I was going to do.

1307
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 3: She was going to do the shots up ramp side

1308
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 3: but at the end where the referees were, where the

1309
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 3: chair was going to be. How I was going to

1310
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 3: hit natural selection with her head into the chair, Like

1311
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 3: all those things were extremely specific. Okay, yeah, like it

1312
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 3: didn't look specific out there like that's our job, but no,

1313
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 3: that was all Like I needed her to come up

1314
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 3: and not organically be right there, but we'd already placed

1315
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 3: it there. So that's all going through my head as

1316
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 3: I was doing like walking around the ring moving things, so.

1317
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 4: You know, only cognizant of what you have to physically do,

1318
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 4: but what the audience is.

1319
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 3: We have like camera guy, so there's two posts up front,

1320
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 3: camera guy there, a camera guy there, hardcam, and then

1321
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 3: one guy down the ramp and you know.

1322
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: What each guy does and that like sets the people apart.

1323
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: Who's really good at that?

1324
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 3: Like Randy Orton is one of the best, Like one

1325
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 3: of the best. Face is always on that camera at

1326
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 3: the right time.

1327
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 4: Building character, telling story? Yeah, the real quick do you

1328
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 4: mentioned do you have like stage direction for for like, oh,

1329
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 4: this is back corner, that's ramside. Like what are those terms?

1330
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: We say? Baby face corner, heel corner.

1331
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: Oh, but that's.

1332
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 3: Like the good guys are always here, the bad guys

1333
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 3: are always here.

1334
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, a baby face heel corner.

1335
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: I live in heel corner.

1336
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: That's all right, it's great.

1337
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 6: Wait, we talked a little bit about the pre match routine,

1338
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 6: but like after a crazy match like this once you said, sorry,

1339
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 6: do you have a post match routine that you always do,

1340
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 6: like a go to like to.

1341
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: Go to drink protein shake, protein shake, beer beer, the.

1342
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: Glass of wine.

1343
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: I like that truly.

1344
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, something to something to come down?

1345
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: How do you come down? All that adrenaline, It's got to.

1346
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: Be popping like a normal SmackDown.

1347
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 2: No, that's true or raw.

1348
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes sure.

1349
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 3: Pull up to the marry and be like, oh they

1350
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 3: have truly Okay, I'll grab it truly.

1351
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 2: Gotta yay, gotta unwind, truly's hit diffy at the marry.

1352
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 4: I love that.

1353
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that always.

1354
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 4: Bro.

1355
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, do they have a mini prisecco.

1356
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: I'll take the truly what flavor? Truly?

1357
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters.

1358
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 2: They all ta Yeah, what's the after Matthews bo on

1359
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 2: this bad Boy too on her Rondo wins via de

1360
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 2: q Raw ended up sweeping SmackDown that night six and

1361
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 2: O on the night, Uh, Charlott would be fine one

1362
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 2: hundred k, I believe uh from the commission. Then went

1363
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 2: on when on the next week, Yeah.

1364
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 4: That's a story.

1365
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 2: Maybe the same thing. Charge it to the game. Hey,

1366
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 2: he hate the player every penny. They call that payroll

1367
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 2: the duct amen and uh she said as Charlotte said,

1368
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 2: I'm just sticking up from a SmackDown crew here, like,

1369
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 2: why did it come on? Man? That's why I did it?

1370
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: No, so I asked them to give me ten k each.

1371
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 3: I think it'd be a little questionable, but hey, we

1372
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 3: didn't tell you to do that.

1373
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 4: Goes by the way.

1374
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: Smash Down, That's what it was all about.

1375
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: And then there it amen.

1376
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,479
Speaker 6: And then the biggest thing that this set up, of course,

1377
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 6: was WrestleMania thirty five, an epic showdown. We covered that

1378
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 6: match on the show with Becky Lanchco. Check it out

1379
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 6: if you haven't. It was a history making first all

1380
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 6: female main event in WrestleMania history. And then fast forward

1381
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 6: to December thirtieth, twenty twenty two, Charlotte beat Ryan or

1382
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 6: Rousei for the SmackDown Belt, another epic match.

1383
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 2: The saga continues, and the saga continues, and hopefully we

1384
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 2: get to see more of the saga more because we're

1385
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 2: getting little tidbits here. Let's name the game and score

1386
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 2: the game. These are some of the names that we

1387
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 2: came up with. If you have a specific name that

1388
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: you have in your brain, you can bring that one

1389
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 2: in two. Anything you could do, I can do better,

1390
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: a little playoffs, the Queen gets rowdy match, the can

1391
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: do stick match, there will be blood match, de qed

1392
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 2: Queen match, or something else. Or something else.

1393
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: I love anything you can do.

1394
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 2: I can do, Baby, that I can do, I can

1395
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 2: do better.

1396
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: Now I'm use that the next time I get to

1397
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: use a kindo stick.

1398
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 2: Here that I'm definitely going to use that us the

1399
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 2: nutheads will be going nuts.

1400
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: Yes, stand it on a T shirt.

1401
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 2: Now, let's score the game. Is this the greatest game

1402
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 2: of all time? Let's score it. Ashley steaks zero to

1403
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 2: ten decimals. Okay, the steaks of this specific match in

1404
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen between you and Ronda Rousey. The steaks, oh,

1405
01:08:55,160 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: ten ten. I'm going nine point two. I had a

1406
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 2: seven point three.

1407
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 4: I had two point one. I'm a noted stakes hater.

1408
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,759
Speaker 2: Russian judge, Russian judge. Let's go to the star power

1409
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,799
Speaker 2: of this match. Zero to ten decimals.

1410
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 4: Okay, I think my.

1411
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: Whole thing is going to be tens.

1412
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,759
Speaker 4: Hey, why I score.

1413
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 2: So we can keep it in the Mark Cuban scoring system.

1414
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: Star power ten.

1415
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 2: Honestly, if you think about it legacy wise, this is

1416
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 2: a huge star power. You have Ronda Rousey, who was

1417
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 2: the biggest like this was Entourage days right.

1418
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 8: Following all that, she was huge cover of cover of

1419
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:44,440
Speaker 8: Sports Illustrated, and you got Charlotte who comes from royalty

1420
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 8: of the wrestling world.

1421
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: I mean this is this is a nine to two again, okay,

1422
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,799
Speaker 2: and there's probably a hell of people. It's just if

1423
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: it was a WrestleMania, then you got the other star

1424
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: power there.

1425
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 4: Too, though, people in the building. The whole jazz Jackie

1426
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 4: eight points seven point five.

1427
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 2: The game play or the match play of this fight

1428
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: zero to ten decimals, okay, the back and forthness some

1429
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: would say, the meltdown, window stick beat down stuff, the

1430
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: cell of the match, zero ten decimals, okay, eight five,

1431
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: eight five.

1432
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with a seven to nine.

1433
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 2: I had an eight point zero.

1434
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 4: I had an eight point one.

1435
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 2: I like the physicality, like it, oh.

1436
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, going tackling refs four, refs on, like that's fun.

1437
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: Just the girls don't get to do it often.

1438
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: They don't see more of that. And lastly, we grade

1439
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: the name of the match, which is the anything you

1440
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 2: can do, I can do better.

1441
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to change my scar on this one.

1442
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 2: Zero ten decimals, okay, seven nine, seven nine, seven nine.

1443
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 4: I'm going with the seven flat seven flat.

1444
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: At a seven to two. So we're in the same ballpark.

1445
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 4: I'm bumping mine up till seven to two. I like that.

1446
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 2: I love a good pun, love it. And then what

1447
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: does it match up in our matches of all time?

1448
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 4: Seven point seven three?

1449
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 2: Now where does that going to? All the fighting scores matches?

1450
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,560
Speaker 4: So that puts us it's our new fiftieth game overall,

1451
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 4: just ahead of Super Bowl twenty one Giants versus Broncos

1452
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 4: and just below l Way versus Montana nineteen eighty four

1453
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 4: Week seven Chiefs versus Broncos.

1454
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 2: What super Bowl was that?

1455
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll take it.

1456
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 2: Who do we do that with?

1457
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 4: Twenty one? That was Phil Simms. Yeah, we're going to

1458
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 4: Disney World game.

1459
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 2: Yes, we're going to Disney World Game.

1460
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 4: It's spot we game with seven to two on that

1461
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 4: And then you're also a part of another match we did.

1462
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 4: Where is that one?

1463
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 2: We also have the Becky two Belts twenty.

1464
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 4: Two, twenty two.

1465
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 2: There you go eight four eight four eight four Wrestlming

1466
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 2: thirty five.

1467
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: Oh the ending, it's all a seat. It's all about

1468
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: a story.

1469
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 2: It's all about the match.

1470
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: But the story story, the story is insane. The story

1471
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: was insane.

1472
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 2: This was great, Ashley. Did we miss anything from this match? No?

1473
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 2: Is there anything you want to plug.

1474
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, Summer Slam Met Life August second, third. I haven't

1475
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 3: been there since wrestle Mania thirty five.

1476
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't think. But now Summer Slam is two nights,

1477
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: biggest party of.

1478
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 8: The year, biggest party party of the year, and two

1479
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 8: nights every time.

1480
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 2: Are we getting some action?

1481
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 1: I hope.

1482
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: So we're bringing the chopper back.

1483
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: I gotta get my throne back.

1484
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 2: We got to get the thrown back, the chopper back

1485
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 2: going back.

1486
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: Got to bring my chopper back. Take it out of

1487
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:40,799
Speaker 1: the garage.

1488
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 4: You got it everyone.

1489
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 2: Check out Summer Slam at MetLife August second and third,

1490
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 2: and check out Ashley on her Instagram Charlotte w w

1491
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 2: E on ig and you got TikTok snapchat.

1492
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 4: You got it all.

1493
01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is my TikTok handle?

1494
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 4: We'll put it in the like we will put.

1495
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 2: Use my Twitter. I use Twitter, And which is the same.

1496
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,719
Speaker 1: Miss Charlotte w w Miss Charlotte M S.

1497
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 2: M s w W E on Twitter, thank you so

1498
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 2: much for coming on.

1499
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.

1500
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 4: Man, She's awesome.

1501
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 2: She has great legend. I get more wrestlers in here,

1502
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 2: we got I love when we get wrestlers in here.

1503
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 2: It gives you a whole other perspective. Yeah, maybe our

1504
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,719
Speaker 2: first North Carolinian in here too. I love that first

1505
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 2: first North Carolinian.

1506
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 4: Love that I was like wrestling. It''s intersection between entertainment

1507
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,839
Speaker 4: and athletics. It's like this cool balance where they're definitely

1508
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 4: at they're athletes, but they're also telling a story.

1509
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: It's too real to me. Dammit, what do you what

1510
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: do you mean they're telling the story? Okay, loser, God,

1511
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 2: I need I need to chill out, so you know

1512
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 2: what it is. It's time for the chill for what

1513
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 2: it brought to you by cores like it cores like

1514
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 2: delivered straight to your door. Visit corslight dot com and

1515
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 2: celebrate responsibly.

1516
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 4: Let's hit the old hatline again.

1517
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: That number is four two four two nine zero. Let's

1518
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 2: get into it.

1519
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 9: Hey, Jules, I just want you to know this is

1520
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 9: Stacy from Texas and that you were talking the other

1521
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 9: day on Dude Dump Dudes about Madden and I believe

1522
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 9: you are the Madden for this generation. You have explained

1523
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 9: football in such a way and let us see behind

1524
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 9: the scenes and behind the curtain, and I think you

1525
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 9: have to do an excellent job of explaining everything, and

1526
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 9: you certainly have made a fan of me since I

1527
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 9: saw you on New Heights. So thank you, Jules, and

1528
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 9: have a wonderful weekend.

1529
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 2: Stacy from Tech shout out Stacy. Holy moly, you gotta

1530
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 2: watch John Moore, Stacy, high praise.

1531
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 4: That is high praise.

1532
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 2: You gotta watch more John Madden Again, don't put me

1533
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 2: in the same sentence, but that is such a Those

1534
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 2: are some beautiful kind words. And I love that we

1535
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 2: got someone from Texas from doing New Heights. That's called

1536
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 2: cross pahollination, cross pollination. That's right, as people helping people.

1537
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 2: That's why you do all those media appearances.

1538
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 4: That's why that's why we talk about all them weights.

1539
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 4: Thank you Stacy for a little bit of fun. You

1540
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 4: do do a great job of like taking a high

1541
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 4: concept type of stuff and kind of pulling back the

1542
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 4: curtain on like real football for a layman.

1543
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 6: And doing it in an entertaining and personable and real

1544
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 6: way that appeals to even the most casual fans.

1545
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: Well, we have good people that know how to ask

1546
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 2: and write the right questions to get that out of me.

1547
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 2: So it's a team effort. Let's keep it going. Questions

1548
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 2: We're all disciples of Madden. So we're all disciples of Madden.

1549
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, this is Eric in Ukaypa, California. I was

1550
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,560
Speaker 7: just calling uh because Jewels, I read your book Relentless

1551
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 7: years ago, thought it was amazing. Just kind of curious

1552
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 7: if you have any plans to write another book, maybe

1553
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 7: more personal stuff life after football, you know, just the

1554
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 7: years since you know, more stuff about like your own

1555
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 7: personal thoughts and everything. Of course football stories we all

1556
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 7: love that. But anyway, I know you've written some children's books,

1557
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 7: but just curious you have more books for adults that

1558
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 7: you have planned to come out? All right, man if

1559
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 7: so I look forward to I can't wait to read

1560
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 7: it later.

1561
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 4: Eric, from where Kupaupa? That's probably? It feels like where

1562
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 4: is that?

1563
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,560
Speaker 2: That's a very thoughtful question, really good. We got to

1564
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 2: see where this guy lives. It's in the San Bernardino County,

1565
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: east of San Bernardino, so we're close to here. San Bernandino,

1566
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 2: I believe was where the first McDonald was.

1567
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is near. This is near. Do you ever

1568
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,600
Speaker 4: go to Oakland? Did they have a little like and

1569
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 4: the some magapple orchards and they're like, oh, if you

1570
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,919
Speaker 4: want new England in California, go to Oakland.

1571
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 2: It's not your correct Jewels.

1572
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 6: First McDonald's San Bernardino, California, thirteen ninety eight Northeast Street,

1573
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 6: Come on, man, and then Eric came in there and

1574
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,879
Speaker 6: messed it all up with his milkshake machines.

1575
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 4: I haven't thought about writing another book at all. There's

1576
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 4: been some whispers with people behind the scenes, but it's

1577
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 4: never gotten real.

1578
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 2: Tails from the nuthouse. Yeah, but I don't know. I

1579
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: got to live some more life. I'm still like in

1580
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: the grinding stage of my next career.

1581
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 4: Tim Tebow has like three autobiographies.

1582
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Tibo is like he's got He's probably got

1583
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 2: three fascinating stories. Jewels hadn't even circumcised one kid, bro. Yeah,

1584
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 2: it's a rookie number only been like five brisks. This

1585
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 2: guy's been circumcised.

1586
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 4: It's a brisk like a brist that's fast, like a

1587
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 4: fast one, a brisk b I love the brisk tight.

1588
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 2: I love how this off keeps me on a layaway

1589
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 2: or or keeps me on high for the brisk.

1590
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got a bristle brisk call me. I'm like

1591
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 4: cro we're shooting on that day.

1592
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 2: We were might just gonna you live in Boca ok. Yeah, yeah,

1593
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm like you're over at Los Sienaga.

1594
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 4: There is a bris on A.

1595
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: Great question, Eric, but no thought yet.

1596
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 7: This is Lauren from Texas.

1597
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 9: My question is for Julian. How does finding an agent work?

1598
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 4: Do they find you?

1599
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 7: Do you go and look for them?

1600
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 9: Do they get paid when you get paid? Who do

1601
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 9: you know to trust?

1602
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 7: So that's my question.

1603
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 9: I like the podcast, it's really good, informative and positive.

1604
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 2: Thank you Lauren from Texas. How do you get your agent? Well,

1605
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 2: I'll give you my experience. I was coming out of

1606
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 2: Kent State, so I didn't I didn't have a lot

1607
01:18:54,880 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 2: of agents pursuing me. But my coach, Doug Martin was

1608
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: represented by Ian Duben Sports at the time.

1609
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 4: They do a lot of coaches too, right, h A

1610
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 4: lot of coaches.

1611
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 2: They have, they have coaches and I uh, I met

1612
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 2: with a few other agents and they were all I mean,

1613
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 2: you could tell there were some swindly dudes, like some

1614
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 2: dude from I'm talking East West swindlely, so a little different,

1615
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 2: you know, like some Uncle Buck vibes.

1616
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 4: What's east west swindly?

1617
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 2: Midwest midwest? Did I say east west you're talking about

1618
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 2: the SRI. I was thinking about the shrine like some

1619
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 2: some just it's just swindly business. And then you know,

1620
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: my my my coach put a word into my to

1621
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 2: Ian Dubin or something, and Don called me and basically

1622
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 2: gave his pitch and they flew me out to l

1623
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 2: A And so that's how I signed with them. So

1624
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 2: if you're a high talented guy out of college, there's

1625
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 2: there's guys coming at you all day. And back in

1626
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:03,520
Speaker 2: the day before the guys were getting paid. The agents,

1627
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 2: which my agents were like like regular type dudes, like

1628
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 2: low key agents, and that's kind of how I liked it,

1629
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't want the flashy, this kind of

1630
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 2: there's agents that you know, back in my day, they

1631
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 2: would give guys a bunch of money so like they

1632
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,600
Speaker 2: could get their car or whatever while they're training. It

1633
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 2: was basically a loan that they had to pay back

1634
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 2: once they got their money from their signing bonus, which

1635
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 2: I don't I didn't do that, but that's what I've

1636
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 2: heard used to be done. And then like the agent

1637
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:38,520
Speaker 2: would pay for the living, they would pay for the training,

1638
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 2: which you know for three months, that's fifty sixty grand

1639
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 2: you know, so that you get a loan from your

1640
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 2: your agent and if or it, you know they could

1641
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 2: do there's some guys that'll eat that cost because if

1642
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 2: they have a first round guy, they're gonna make you know,

1643
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 2: millions of dollars. So, like, I don't know how they

1644
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 2: pitch it to certain guys, but there was there was

1645
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 2: deals within deals on how you got your agents back

1646
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 2: in the day. Now it's changed completely nowadays because these

1647
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 2: guys are getting agents pitched that out of high school though, yeah,

1648
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 2: you know, because there's agencies that represent athletes, that have

1649
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 2: divisions that represent nil. So now you know they'll they'll

1650
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 2: send over their NIL department, get these kids younger and

1651
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 2: then feed them into their you know, the big system

1652
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 2: of who they are. You know, you got the Rosenhaus,

1653
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 2: you got the other big ones to see you know,

1654
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 2: there's there's five or six big ones, and then you

1655
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 2: got like these mom and pop shop agents, you know,

1656
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't put my agency in that because they

1657
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 2: got some big I mean my agent tique. Yes, they

1658
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: didn't have a boatload of guys, and they had a

1659
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 2: certain amount of different types of guys, you know, so uh,

1660
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: that's how you got agents. I guess when when you're

1661
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 2: a pro, get connected, you know, then they start coming

1662
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 2: to practices.

1663
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 4: No, what else is an agent providing for you? Besides

1664
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 4: just like the standard contract negotiations, So.

1665
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: On field, they're doing all the on like the negotiation

1666
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: talks between the club and you. Okay, So the GM

1667
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 2: or whoever handles the personnel on the on the team,

1668
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 2: they'll call your agent anytime, or if you want to

1669
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 2: have something said, you could you could have your agent

1670
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 2: call and do that. So there's a good buffer system

1671
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:33,839
Speaker 2: for business.

1672
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 4: Mostly business. Nothing on the field, none of that kind

1673
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 4: of stuff.

1674
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 2: It's mostly just like now, off the field, your agent

1675
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: also can get you like in commercials they can get

1676
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 2: marketing and stuff shoe deals. But also you know, there's

1677
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 2: different agencies for different type things. So like when I

1678
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: was playing, I had my football agent with Josey and Dubin.

1679
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 2: They handled everything on the field and they would get

1680
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 2: they would get me stuff off the field. But I

1681
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 2: had multiple people getting me stuff off the field.

1682
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:08,879
Speaker 4: Uh.

1683
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 2: At that time, I had like a fashion agent per person.

1684
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 2: That was like when I was doing stuff with Joe's,

1685
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 2: Jean's and McCage and you know, doing all this you

1686
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 2: know fashion e stype type stuff or or appearance type

1687
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 2: fee or designing something like. I had an agent for that,

1688
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 2: so then they would get a cut of whatever they

1689
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 2: brought me from there. And then I had you know,

1690
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 2: a TV agent, which was a different agent than my

1691
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,759
Speaker 2: Duman agent, which was a different agent than the fashion agent.

1692
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 4: You know.

1693
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 2: So there's there's multiple different agents, which I like to

1694
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 2: do it like that. You know, there they are, Yeah,

1695
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 2: there are people, there are houses like you can go

1696
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 2: to companies that have one that does it all.

1697
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:47,759
Speaker 4: Soup to nuts. Yeah, the big boys.

1698
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, did like Ian Dubn put you in touch with

1699
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 6: the fashion and the entertainment people or do you kind

1700
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 6: of do that on your own?

1701
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 4: A little bit of both.

1702
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 2: Okay. You know, they would look for my interests and

1703
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 2: they would put me like the I think they got me,

1704
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 2: you know, uh, I mean into a fashion week or something,

1705
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 2: you know.

1706
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 4: What I mean.

1707
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 2: That made friends there and you know that's it's just

1708
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 2: a lot of networking and then you find and then

1709
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, so multiple different agents for these athletes

1710
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 2: and especially now you have social media managers. Yeah, I

1711
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 2: had a whole different department that was you know, doing

1712
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:30,799
Speaker 2: that and there was multiple different kind of so called agents.

1713
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 2: It's not just one guy.

1714
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 4: Now for your like the main contract agents, they're taking

1715
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 4: what three percent off of like gross or after tack,

1716
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 4: Like what do they how do they actually get paid?

1717
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:46,600
Speaker 2: So you're you're agent on the field, the standard is

1718
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 2: usually three percent of what you get your you're on

1719
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 2: the field contract. Now there are guys that negotiate that

1720
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 2: down that get huge deals.

1721
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1722
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 2: They can negotiate one hundred million, give me one if

1723
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: you do it for one percent or now you're even

1724
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,480
Speaker 2: seeing guys do it on their own. Yeah, a Llah

1725
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 2: you know, Lamar Jackson.

1726
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 4: Yep.

1727
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 2: Now, if they get you something that's not associated with

1728
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,520
Speaker 2: the team, like that's off the field, not your contract

1729
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 2: for playing with the team, a Tostitos commercial, a Toastito's commercial,

1730
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 2: and they usually would take like ten percent of what

1731
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,839
Speaker 2: it would be Okay, so they would get three percent

1732
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 2: of what you're on field, what you were getting through

1733
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 2: the team for playing for the team, and then they

1734
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,799
Speaker 2: get ten percent of anything they brought you off from

1735
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: off the field. And that's usually ten to fifteen to

1736
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 2: twenty range. That that that range, and that that comes

1737
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 2: from a lot of different people. You know, ten, it's

1738
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 2: usually ten, but you know you get up into those

1739
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: model worlds and stuff because you know, like you dip

1740
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 2: over and you've done some stuff for that that market.

1741
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 2: You get like those agents they take like fifty percent

1742
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 2: from like it's crazy. So like there's a whole Each

1743
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 2: industry is a little different. Sure, and I'm sure the

1744
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 2: size of each contract matters on the size of each

1745
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 2: what sure that agreements.

1746
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 4: Between you know, and with like the entertainment business, there's

1747
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 4: the managers, there's agents, there's even lawyers sometimes.

1748
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so your agents are usually are a one stop

1749
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: shop so you don't have to do like in Hollywood.

1750
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all there, it's all in one.

1751
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Your your sport agent handles the team, so like

1752
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: you don't have like in they're the lawyers that are

1753
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 2: doing the legal legality work. They're also doing the negotiation

1754
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 2: they you know, so like there's its sports. It's a

1755
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 2: little different than Hollywood.

1756
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 4: Do you know anything? And I know that you don't

1757
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 4: probably not experience it from your career, but as always

1758
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 4: fascinating to me that like teams, let's say a player

1759
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 4: is requesting a trader wants to get moved that like

1760
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 4: teams let an agent of a player seek out deals.

1761
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 4: Do you know anything about there?

1762
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 2: I've never been in that.

1763
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that was peculiar or interesting that a

1764
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 4: front office would like, well, I made an agent go

1765
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,839
Speaker 4: look for some deals and speak on their agents.

1766
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 2: They have guys on every team, so you know, they

1767
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 2: have relationships, and that's what the that's the value of

1768
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 2: having an agent is the relationship that they have with teams.

1769
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,600
Speaker 2: If he has a guy on that team, you know,

1770
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 2: and he does good business with that guy, you know,

1771
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,560
Speaker 2: then the team's going to be more linked, you know

1772
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: what I mean. And it's just that that's that that

1773
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 2: was the whole thing when we were talking about Lamar's negotiation,

1774
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 2: like there was no relationship between each side and each side,

1775
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 2: which is you know that it's it's just new. That's

1776
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 2: why it was looked at differently. It got done. But

1777
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 2: he also used a lawyer. He did it more of

1778
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 2: like a Hollywood contract.

1779
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 4: You'd get your own deal and your lawyer, like Irons

1780
01:27:58,920 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 4: and all.

1781
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 2: So that's what he kind of it did. He did

1782
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 2: it so like in Hollywood, right, you get your age,

1783
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 2: your agent gets a fee, your manager gets a fee,

1784
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 2: and then then there's a lawyer that tightens everything up

1785
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 2: and gets you know what I mean. I think he

1786
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 2: kind of handled it like that without the others. He

1787
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 2: just you know, did the deal, which you know, looking back,

1788
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 2: if I knew what I knew now sick frank on him.

1789
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,600
Speaker 2: I wouldn't sick frank on him, but I would, you know,

1790
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 2: I would know how to do a deal. Yeah, and

1791
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 2: I would just have a lawyer tighten it up. Yeah,

1792
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 2: and and go over you know, and and the legality

1793
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 2: talk and you know what I mean, all you have

1794
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 2: to have is your lawyer. You know it like you

1795
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 2: know now. But like and maybe Lamar does now through

1796
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: that experience, which you know, that could be huge going

1797
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 2: forward for him in his life, Like that could be

1798
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 2: he's a pioneer, you know, on the one thinks everyone's

1799
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 2: crazy for the first time they do shit, Hey man,

1800
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 2: trail Blazer, because I.

1801
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 4: Was like, man, he's crazy. You don't got an agent.

1802
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 4: What's three percent of that's a lot of money for

1803
01:28:58,400 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 4: that contract.

1804
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 2: But it's also you know, it's a convenience cost. And

1805
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:07,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you're paying that cost to

1806
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 2: let them do their work so you can keep your

1807
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 2: mind on football because we're you know, at heart, you're

1808
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 2: paying the people to give you the convenience so you

1809
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 2: can work on your craft, you know what I mean.

1810
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 2: That's why I always had a team of and of

1811
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:29,799
Speaker 2: people when I was playing, Like let them worry about everything,

1812
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 2: have someone, find someone you can trust, really go over that,

1813
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 2: and then you know, so you can keep the main

1814
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 2: thing the main thing, and everything grows if you do

1815
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 2: well on the field, no matter what. Like I was

1816
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 2: talking to young guys at the Patriots practice and I

1817
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 2: was thinking about it. I was like, whatever your goal

1818
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 2: is as a professional athlete, like when you're on this team,

1819
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 2: the process is all whatever it is, the process is

1820
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 2: still the same. Whether it's to be the best player,

1821
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 2: whether it's to be the best teammate, whether it's to

1822
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 2: make the most money, whether it's to be the most famous.

1823
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 2: I like all those. Whatever your goal is, to get

1824
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 2: to the best of that, you have to do the

1825
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 2: same shit. So you might as well do the shit, yeah,

1826
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 2: and realize that those all grow when you do the shit.

1827
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:27,839
Speaker 2: I don't know if that, I know, yeah.

1828
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 4: If you are performing on the field will trickle down

1829
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 4: to all of this.

1830
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 2: Everything which ultimately comes down to that practice That's why

1831
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 2: that practice means so much, because you know what I mean,

1832
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 2: you put so much time and effort in to get

1833
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 2: your body as explosive as it possibly can. Now you

1834
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 2: have these certain amount of reps that you have before

1835
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 2: you go into pads. Every rep is freaking important, you know,

1836
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 2: And like you said, it's stargely keeping the main thing

1837
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 2: the main thing.

1838
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 6: So many of these guys like you want to get

1839
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 6: over their skis and do meet and social media, and

1840
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 6: well you're always you know what I mean, like that

1841
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 6: foundation foundation, right, but like before you've done any you

1842
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 6: know what I mean, like before you've done it.

1843
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 2: But you also can tell, like what what guy's goals

1844
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 2: are through you know what they are.

1845
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 4: When we reselling your t shirts back when you were playing,

1846
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 4: like you could have put the best design on the

1847
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 4: planet out and if you get hurt or if you

1848
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 4: don't perform well, or if you don't win a super Bowl,

1849
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter, or if you could put out the

1850
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 4: whatever design after super Bowl. It's it's just how it goes.

1851
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 4: When the main thing is the main thing, then the

1852
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 4: other stuff follows.

1853
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 6: And then you gotta you just gotta worry about the

1854
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 6: head coach of New England coming up to the MLA

1855
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 6: in the lunch room and corner, and you trying to

1856
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 6: negotiate deals right then and there.

1857
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 4: You call like Duban right after that. Hell yeah, I

1858
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 4: righted his ass out.

1859
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 2: You know, we don't need to have the age is

1860
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 2: involved here, you know, and he didn't. You know, he's

1861
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 2: he goes like this, Bill goes like this. He goes,

1862
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 2: look like, you say something to your agent. I say

1863
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 2: something to Casario. They say. He's like, there's so many

1864
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 2: fucking people, like why we could just do this ourselves.

1865
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 2: He literally, you say something to your agent. He says

1866
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 2: something to Casio, Casario says something to He's like, late,

1867
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 2: that's what he's laid out, like a nice try buddy.

1868
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 2: I was like, coach, I just I just let my

1869
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 2: agent do this. I'm dumb football player. Oh I played

1870
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 2: stupid who he knows everything about me, that old New

1871
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 2: England football coach. Fucking guy. Yeah, we don't talk about him.

1872
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 2: We'll bleep that leap that name until he comes in

1873
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 2: this motherfucker, until his until he's right here on this

1874
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 2: goddamn couch. We're bleeping his name fast. That's the fact.

1875
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 4: He's like Voldemort.

1876
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 2: We shook on it. We'll be right back after this

1877
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 2: quick break.

1878
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jules, I just listened to the last voice now

1879
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:57,799
Speaker 6: episode of Games with Names.

1880
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:00,640
Speaker 3: This has been a fear of mine growing up.

1881
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 2: And I'm all the way across the country. You guys

1882
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:08,799
Speaker 2: living on the San Andreas fault line that that doesn't

1883
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:15,640
Speaker 2: scare you at all. It's just the question it scares me.

1884
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:21,640
Speaker 4: So I don't have no sit episode peace. Are we

1885
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 4: about to be come a geology podcast?

1886
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 2: You know? Living on the San Andreas fault lines has

1887
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 2: its it's scares, but it also has its pluses. The

1888
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 2: scares are at any moment, the cement from right under

1889
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 2: you could just crack into half any moment. But because

1890
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,640
Speaker 2: of that, when I'm driving down the two eighty, I

1891
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 2: see beautiful mountains, I see beautiful elevation. I see topography

1892
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 2: that these eyeballs can't freaking see anywhere other than here.

1893
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 2: It's nuts. And I drive this state a lot because

1894
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 2: I go up to the Bay area, I go up

1895
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 2: to Yosemity area, I go to the Lakes. I drive

1896
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 2: the freaking top I'll drive the freaking man It, I'll

1897
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 2: drive the Palm Spring. We're a fucking family trip kind

1898
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 2: of guy. Yeah, baby, you put at least six to

1899
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 2: eight five hour plus driving sessions in a year right

1900
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 2: up that fault line.

1901
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 4: So we hit that fault line a lot.

1902
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's scary, but like anything, like when

1903
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 2: you live in Florida, everyone's terrible. You know, you know

1904
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 2: how to prepare for a hurricane, even though you don't

1905
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 2: you can't. But like when we were kids, you know,

1906
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 2: we had the earthquake drills and ship. You get under

1907
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 2: the table, you find a door frame, you know, you

1908
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 2: bring your little We all had to bring our little

1909
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 2: packs where you got your blanket and ship like we

1910
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:41,560
Speaker 2: all in the I remember you used to have to

1911
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 2: pack those like week one and they're all like the

1912
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:51,520
Speaker 2: can stuff like like uh like canned peaches and uh

1913
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 2: like and stuff and like all that be jerky and

1914
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 2: like on the last day of school, you got to

1915
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 2: take it home. You just come go and eat eat

1916
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 2: it all. You're eating your earthquake pack. But yeah, it's

1917
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 2: it's cool.

1918
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 4: At the Sandrea's fault, I was just in Joshua Tree

1919
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 4: and in one of the like look at Keys Point

1920
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 4: and Josha Tree. You can see the big valley at

1921
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 4: the Coachella Valley. You just see the San Andreas fault

1922
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 4: just splits the whole thing. It's so cool.

1923
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 2: Well, like the two eighty in northern California, you could

1924
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 2: like watch right down in like Crystal Springs Reservoir is like.

1925
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 4: We was that on the way to half Moon Bay. Yeah, yeah,

1926
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 4: that was beautiful.

1927
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just because of that fault line, you get

1928
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 2: this crazy beauty.

1929
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and if it ever really goes then

1930
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:38,640
Speaker 4: we just live on an island.

1931
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 2: There it is?

1932
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 4: Is there water under us? I don't know.

1933
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:46,600
Speaker 6: Remember the Dwayne Johnson film from twenty fifteen San Andreas. Yeah,

1934
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 6: one hundred and ten million dollars budget made, four hundred

1935
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 6: and seventy four.

1936
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:54,759
Speaker 2: Pretty made and seventy Yeah. Man, that's in twenty fifteen dollars.

1937
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 2: That's when movies were making money. That's right.

1938
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:02,600
Speaker 4: Shout out Dwayne's one more geology questions. That's fine.

1939
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:06,719
Speaker 2: We are a geology podcast, not jeez. I remember taking

1940
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 2: an earth dynamics class at Kent State and just learning

1941
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 2: about like or in like all these kids are like

1942
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:15,680
Speaker 2: from the Midwest, and we were talking about like the

1943
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 2: Sant Andre's fault line and liquefaction and stuff. I was like, yeah, dude,

1944
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 2: we build him on rockers, rollers and stuff. You don't

1945
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 2: got to worry about that the big deal.

1946
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 4: You know, we don't.

1947
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 2: We don't have sandy ass areas out there.

1948
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 4: Ted talk youet a little Ted.

1949
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 2: Talking earth dynamics, one hundred earth dynamics.

1950
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 4: How many times you go to that class? I went

1951
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 4: to that class a lot. What's a lot?

1952
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 2: At least sixty five.

1953
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 6: I don't think I've ever asked you this, but did

1954
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 6: you take any fashion classes at Kent State?

1955
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 2: I didn't because the program is so good. I well,

1956
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 2: I was wonder if you didn't about it yet. Oh okay, yeah,

1957
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 2: I feel that like you're still afferent part of campus.

1958
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,879
Speaker 2: Oh totally, okay, it's on a different part of campus.

1959
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 2: I always love that fun factor. So I met a

1960
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 2: kid on the beach here. Did you tell me about this? Yes?

1961
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 2: He just came up to you randomly, right, randomly. Yeah,

1962
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 2: he went to Kent Stay. He's like, oh, I don't mean, like,

1963
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Speaker 2: what the hell are you doing? You went to Kent State?

1964
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Speaker 2: What are you doing out here? Are you in fashion

1965
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,680
Speaker 2: or something? He's like, yeah, I'm in fashion. I was

1966
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 2: like what He's like, I worked with like old American

1967
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 2: Americano vibes, like you know LEVI and Ship. I gotta

1968
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:24,719
Speaker 2: put you in touch with my home girl who works

1969
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 2: at LEVI trying to help out a little flash, you know,

1970
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 2: get his his kickstart at the network. He's like twenty three,

1971
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 2: fresh out of college man. Yeah, number one design in

1972
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Speaker 2: the Midwest.

1973
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 4: Should we audit a remote Kent State class this summer.

1974
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 2: I'm down do it remote your lifelong learners. Let's do

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Speaker 2: it with Jack.

1976
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Speaker 4: Let's take a look at what the.

1977
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 2: I remember I had a business situation. Now one of

1978
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 2: my business class we had like a really cool business

1979
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 2: teacher at Kent Business one hundred and uh. One of

1980
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 2: the professors was a guy who was clearly a venture

1981
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,719
Speaker 2: capitalist that went to Kent State, that made a boatload

1982
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Speaker 2: of money that was like coming back just for.

1983
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Speaker 4: Like a like yeah, oh help out my university.

1984
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I remember him talking in two thousand and

1985
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 2: six about streaming. Wow, He's like, yeah, you pretty soon.

1986
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 2: This is when DVDs were just getting hot, you know

1987
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 2: what I mean. Yeah, he was and Blu Ray and stuff.

1988
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 2: He goes ten years, You're not even gonna need anything.

1989
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 2: You're just gonna order everything right from your TV. I'm like,

1990
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:36,480
Speaker 2: no fucking way, dude, And that was Ted Crendos.

1991
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 4: Geez, who's this guy?

1992
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 2: That's crazy? Who's this guy talk about being ahead of

1993
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 2: your time? Prescient? Man? Was that two thousand and five?

1994
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Speaker 4: Six?

1995
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 2: When we start doing that?

1996
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Speaker 4: That's wild?

1997
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Speaker 2: I mean five years later streaming.

1998
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Speaker 4: There's a geographic information science graduate program online for Kent State.

1999
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Speaker 4: Let me see not anything fashion wise?

2000
01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 2: Well, let's take a fashion one.

2001
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Speaker 4: I don't know if there's an on line fashion course.

2002
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Netflix officially launched streaming in January. We should take

2003
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 2: a fashion take a fashion class at Kent State. I'm

2004
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 2: so down, like an Americano old school cowboy.

2005
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Speaker 4: Fucking If anyone's still listening to this, thank you, Hey

2006
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 4: can't stay. Hit us up, Wales, hit us up.

2007
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Speaker 6: They wanted We weren't take a fashion class, weren't audited online,

2008
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 6: and then we can.

2009
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:24,759
Speaker 4: Whoever has the best grade?

2010
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 2: When my president left, my lady, Oh dang, Michael.

2011
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 4: Warren shout she left twenty nineteen, Bev?

2012
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Speaker 2: Did she hit you your degree?

2013
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Speaker 4: Enemy? Oh? Bev. BEV worked with me to get me

2014
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Speaker 4: in my degree.

2015
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Speaker 2: I love that.

2016
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Speaker 4: What do you mean, Sam?

2017
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Speaker 3: No?

2018
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:48,640
Speaker 2: Basically I had to sit and talk to their professors

2019
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:50,440
Speaker 2: and explain my businesses.

2020
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Speaker 4: You're like when Steven Spielberg got his peach with a PhD.

2021
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 4: He has PhD from or doctorate from USC Film School,

2022
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Speaker 4: and then he needed to send an example of his

2023
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Speaker 4: work and he like just like, well, here's Shindler's list.

2024
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Speaker 4: Is that good enough for you? USC? And they're like, yeah, okay,

2025
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:11,759
Speaker 4: here you go. It's like you, here's j E. Eleven.

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Speaker 4: I get my PhD.

2027
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Speaker 2: I don't think are you gonna start calling me doctor Edels?

2028
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Speaker 4: I think Kent State's not that.

2029
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, would you be the kind of guy that

2030
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Speaker 2: if you got an honorary doctorate you would make people

2031
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:24,759
Speaker 2: call you doctor?

2032
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Speaker 4: You got to speak at a Kent State graduation.

2033
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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm not there yet. We got to

2034
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Speaker 2: start writing my speech for the Patriots Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Oh true, I think I'm not write it, but just

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Speaker 2: put like names and tell stories.

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Speaker 4: I like that. And then you didn't say check out

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Speaker 4: the rest on games with names no more?

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Speaker 2: Remember like subscribe, like and subscribe. You got twelve minutes.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's a long time.

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Speaker 4: It's not really talking in front of a stadium.

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Speaker 2: That's the height some people have gone five. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: feel like this that's the stadium, not in front of

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Speaker 2: the stadium. This is at the Patriots Hall at a halftime.

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Speaker 2: But you get like four minutes for five minutes.

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Speaker 4: All right, audience, send if you're still listening, send uh

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Speaker 4: voicemails of what Jules should say of ideas, that's fine,

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Speaker 4: some like things that you want to hear from him

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Speaker 6: I like taking the mic off the podium, kind of

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Speaker 6: pacing back and forth. Nothing into a roast. Yeah, doing

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Speaker 6: the coaches twirl with Myers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: Jesus No, that's probably not the way you go. You

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Speaker 2: want to say, I bake Tedsky's dunkin Donuts Corporation.

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Speaker 4: I think Tom's speech was sponsored by Raytheon. That's insane.

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Speaker 2: Tom gave a good speech.

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Speaker 4: Actually, was ready to vote for him. Whatever guy's gonna

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Speaker 4: run for I was gonna vote.

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Speaker 2: I know it's scary. I gotta follow that.

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Speaker 4: We do it because it's hard, so good. Anyway, let's

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Speaker 4: let's go. It's crazy.

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