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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cutting the Distance Field Reports, breaking news from

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Speaker 1: the Elk Woods, and now your host, Jason Felts. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Cutting the Distance Field Report here. I just got

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Speaker 1: done hunting Idaho with Garrett Bowen of Top Priority. Unfortunately

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Speaker 1: he had to run back home real quick for some

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Speaker 1: work and then get ready for another hunt. So I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna kind of wrap up what we saw here

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Speaker 1: in Idaho myself. So we started to hunt on September one.

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Speaker 1: Bulls were biggling, and one thing we did notice right

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Speaker 1: out of the gate is that these bulls weren't necessarily

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Speaker 1: locating from across canyons, or they weren't locating UM from

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Speaker 1: long distances. So as we kind of developed a schudge,

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Speaker 1: we would hear them biggle. But they were biggling, I

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Speaker 1: would say, kind of lackluster, a little bit on their own, UM,

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Speaker 1: weren't necessarily interested in responding UM to location vehicles, to

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Speaker 1: cal calls, UM, anything like that. So we realized early

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Speaker 1: on we were going to have to definitely, you know,

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Speaker 1: no pun intended, cut the distance, get very very close

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Speaker 1: UM in order for them to respond to our beetles.

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Speaker 1: But what we did find, which was a little surprising,

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Speaker 1: is when we did cut the distance to you know,

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Speaker 1: under three yards, the bulls were very collable. Um. So

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Speaker 1: that's kind of the quick summary of the hunt. So

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Speaker 1: one day one, you're right out of the gate. We

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Speaker 1: we climbed some distance. Um. One thing about these Idaho bowls,

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Speaker 1: they any any stand of dark timber um surrounded by

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Speaker 1: quake ees seemed to hold elk, so that that wasn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily a problem. Maybe not in large numbers, but we

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Speaker 1: were always able to be an elk every morning and

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Speaker 1: every evening. The frustrating part was then getting them to

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Speaker 1: do what we wanted to do. So back to opening morning.

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Speaker 1: We climb up. We don't hear a lot opening morning

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Speaker 1: when we're on the south side of a ridge, climb up,

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Speaker 1: and as soon as we drop over the north side,

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Speaker 1: we get there by eight thirty, Um, the canyons lighting up. Um,

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Speaker 1: we've got what we assumed to be the herd bowl

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Speaker 1: straight across from us. And we're assuming herd bowl only

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Speaker 1: because of um, you know, the size of the beagle,

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Speaker 1: the rast, the depth, all of those things. We he

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Speaker 1: bagles three or four times on his own. We haven't

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Speaker 1: even made a call to this point. And why we're

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Speaker 1: making our approach based on the wind. We're trying to

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Speaker 1: get down and under him. Um, so we can get

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Speaker 1: across another bowl beagles at a hundred and fifty yards

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Speaker 1: down the ridge. Um. We we've got good enough wind

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Speaker 1: on him that he won't win. This set up to

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Speaker 1: start caw calling. We set Garrett up, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: fifty six yards ahead of me. Start the cow call,

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Speaker 1: just like so many times on this trip, never to

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Speaker 1: hear the elk again. And as I had mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 1: we had multiple bowls going in this area, you know,

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Speaker 1: a satellite near the herd bowl, plus this bowl of

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Speaker 1: bagle on our side of the ridge. Um. Once we

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Speaker 1: caw called, we didn't hear anymore else from that point on.

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Speaker 1: We didn't hear the elk with a fifty yards of us.

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Speaker 1: We didn't hear the elk across the canyon from us.

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Speaker 1: We didn't hear the satellite across the canyon from us.

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Speaker 1: So a little bit of a frustrating start to to

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Speaker 1: how are we going to approach these elk? So we

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Speaker 1: you kind of go back the drawing board and to

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Speaker 1: piggyback onto Oregon. You know, I'm really starting to question

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Speaker 1: is our system going to work. Are we going to

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Speaker 1: locate elk? Are we going to get close? Are we

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Speaker 1: going to cal call or bigle them in um? Or

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to continue to just spot and stock

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Speaker 1: and moving on these things. And it's it's not the

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Speaker 1: the why, it's not the reason why I'm out there

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Speaker 1: UM in September. I want to call to bugling bulls

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Speaker 1: that are interested in being tricked. So UM, I may

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Speaker 1: have or may not have forgotten my elk tag um

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Speaker 1: in my office desk. You know. So Garrett hunted that

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Speaker 1: first day, we jumped off the mountain, drove back into town,

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Speaker 1: got that all taken care of. UM, kind of sacrificed

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Speaker 1: we get up there. Once again, we can hear bagles

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Speaker 1: But nothing. You know, you hear a bugle, you stop

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Speaker 1: And we've had a bowl vegle across the drainage a

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Speaker 1: And and this is kind of where it all all

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Speaker 1: to start to pick up UM, and we would get

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Speaker 1: was extremely UM good, you know, multiple bowls calling on

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Speaker 1: for one reason or another, the the area was dead,

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Speaker 1: even though we could still you know, spot the elk

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Speaker 1: the elk were still there, they just weren't anything like

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Speaker 1: so it's very frustrating too. You know, maybe go in

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Speaker 1: that they were definitely playable. One thing, um, you know

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Speaker 1: we would get bulls pretty fired up, you know, answering vehicles, UM,

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Speaker 1: then there were multiple times where as as the raker

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Speaker 1: I think could be a little confusing to an elk.

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Speaker 1: good action from maybe you know, seven to nine in

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Speaker 1: you could tell when those bulls were on their feet

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Speaker 1: baggling versus when they were now in their bed baggling

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Speaker 1: you know, by by nine, which makes it very difficult

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Speaker 1: to hunt. You now, um. You know, having to get

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Speaker 1: multiple eyes looking at you, even if it's satellite bowls.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's noise, there's brush, very very dry. UM.

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Speaker 1: Tough to stalk in without everything looking at you. UM.

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Speaker 1: Added some level of difficulty to this hunt. The other

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Speaker 1: thing that we experienced on this hunt, which really kind

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Speaker 1: the high country in this unit, it was very very dry. UM.

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Speaker 1: draws coming out of the high country were completely avoid

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Speaker 1: elk is gonna have trouble living here. You know, we

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Speaker 1: we noticed is that these elk we're coming, you know,

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Speaker 1: overall a good hunt Idaho. And yeah, I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: the olkroat was going good and you found some success