1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Ink 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing and we are thrilled to sit 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: down with Ravens legend Michael or a key part of 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl winning team back in twenty twelve and 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: doing big things still with his foundation and across the board, 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: and he will be our legend of the game for 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: this matchup against the New York Jets. First time back 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: seeing a Ravens game. Just kind of what are your 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: emotions coming into this one? 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: Man? I'm fired up about it. You know, obviously, you 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: know the Ravens our favorite favorite team in the house, 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: and you know we watch him every Sunday, and just 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: to be back, a lot of great memories, you know, 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: life changing memories being drafted to Baltimore and you know 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 2: that they're doing great things. Now. Yeah, I asked about 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: a month ago. I wrote in my notes, I didn't 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: know I was coming to this game, but I wrote 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: in my notes that the Ravens will go over five 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: hundred against the Jets. Well, I'll show you afterwards, but 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: uh yeah, I mean, you know, just to know you've 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: got an organization, the way that they do things and 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: from top to bottom. It's always been great and you 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: know that's why they're in the running year and then 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: you're out. So it's just a great organization to be 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: a part of. 26 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: I got to hear more about this notes situation. So 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 3: you're watching the Ravens games and they're sitting there at 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 3: one and five, and you wrote down either whatever journal 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: or on your phone that the Ravens are going to 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: go over five hundred against the Jets, Like, what take 31 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 3: me through this here? 32 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: Well? 33 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: I mean I when I think of something, I take 34 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 2: out my notes and uh, you know, I write things down. 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: Whether you know, I do motivational speaking, I go talk 36 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: different places in schools and just like the right things down, 37 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: just to you know, keep track of all the great 38 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: things that I come up with. 39 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: Uh. 40 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: I do stuff with sports like that all the time. 41 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: But I wrote that down that they in the midst 42 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: in the middle of the slump. And uh. But you know, 43 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: when you got an organization like the Ravens players, like 44 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: the Ravens coach, you know, you see how the games 45 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: go about, in the turnouts, and you look at the schedule, 46 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: you see what's going on, and uh, you know it 47 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: was that's that wasn't hard for me to do. 48 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: You spoken, you manifested with my predictions, we might have. 49 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: A new guy. I mean, it's it's just a lot 50 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: of guessing. It's kind of like gambling. You know, you 51 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: you lose a lot more than. 52 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: You like me. 53 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 4: If you throw out a million predictions, you're gonna hit 54 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 4: on one. 55 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: No doubt about it. You have to throw them out there. 56 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: All those notes, and right, the Ravens are going to 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: win the super Bowl this year. 58 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 4: Let's get that done. 59 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: That's the next Uh, that's the next step. I mean, 60 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: it's no reason why they shouldn't uh be close to 61 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: getting that done. I want to I want to talk 62 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: about it right now. Super Bowl Now that's a little 63 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 2: bit bigger than one, you know. But you know it's 64 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: like I always say, uh, you know, I was just 65 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: thinking about that, and you know, looking at him, I 66 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: like to say, looking in the mirror, you know, and 67 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: you know, they they have everything that they need to 68 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 2: get the job done and win a Super Bowl. But uh, 69 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: you know, obviously we got a long way, a long 70 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: way to go. But you know they definitely have the 71 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: guys for their job. 72 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: Well, you know what it takes, you know, being a 73 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl winner yourself, and can you take me back 74 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: to that time in that run and specifically the offensive 75 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: line was really a catalyst in that whole turnaround and 76 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: getting hot in the playoffs and and the work y'all 77 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: did protecting Joe allowed him to thrive the way he 78 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: did eleven touchdowns no picks. 79 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: In the playoffs. That's crazy. 80 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: And so tell me about take me back to that 81 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: run and you as an offensive line kind of coming 82 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: together during that time. 83 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I said, you know, we had Brian 84 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: Kinney had to get healthy on the offensive line. I 85 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: was playing left tackle uh that season, and once he 86 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: got healthy, uh, he was able to come back in 87 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: uh ko going to guard, uh, Matt Burker at center, 88 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: Marshall me at right tackle. You know, it was just, 89 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: you know, we we had a great group where you know, 90 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: everybody just loved being uh, you know in that room 91 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: and just playing football. And you know, for us, we 92 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: always talked about, you know, the five best guys being 93 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: on the field on the football field, and we were. You know, 94 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: getting healthy is a key part, uh to any group, 95 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: especially a football team, and that's what's going on now 96 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 2: that the Ravens are getting healthy, right now. But uh, 97 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: you know, we just came together. Man. I can remember 98 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: just uh you know, when we made the changes and stuff, 99 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: and I was in the in the facility here just 100 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: watching film and uh I think we we opened up 101 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: with the coach, you know, Robert Matthis and those guys, 102 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: and and then we put on went up to Denver 103 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: and I remember just watching uh tape on Von Miller 104 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: that year. If you go back and watch film on 105 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 2: von Miller what he was doing, and you know he 106 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: was watching film and just cut the film off on 107 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: you know. I think they were playing uh, the Panthers, 108 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: and he was just man, it was just scared me. 109 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: I got to get out of here. I just just 110 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: made uh I made my mind up. Man, We're just 111 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: going to sell out man, moving forward here on out. 112 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: And uh, we just we were just able to come together. 113 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: We had a veteran center and Matt Burke and being 114 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: on the road was me and Matt. We still talk about, 115 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: you know the silent count. Uh snot silent count until 116 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: this day. Text him a couple of weeks ago because guys, 117 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: you know these d ns now they're jumping. They got 118 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: these motorcycle stands. Now thereus of miles off the ball 119 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: and I just text mec bing up. We had you know, breakfast, lunch, dinner, uh, 120 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 2: different things like that on the road, and he'd always 121 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: asked me what I wanted to what I wanted to 122 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: count to be on because you know, these he respected 123 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: the fact that, you know, the tackles had the toughest job. 124 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had to deal with these guys flying all. 125 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 2: Doubts and I think I don't if I we always 126 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: get uh so many guys jumping off sides with our 127 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: snap count, and Matt he just text me back, Man, 128 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: we can make a lot of money going to sell 129 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: that stuff, because I mean, these tackles needed in these 130 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: d ns, and you know, guys like von Miller at 131 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: the time, Myles. I want to talk about guys currently 132 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: but uh, you know grays playing them, But yeah, you 133 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: need those. All of that helps the offensive line, That 134 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: helps the offense. Everybody has to be thinking in touch, 135 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: you know, to to go get the job done, you know, 136 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: especially on the road and on the offense in general. 137 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: Everybody has to be one. 138 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: Can you take me inside the mile High Miracle? Because 139 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm replaying this and I could still picture the play 140 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: and my mind's high, and Joe's running around like a 141 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: chicken with his head cut off kind of, and he's 142 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: just trying to find the space to step up and 143 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: launch that sucker. And I want to say that you 144 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: got a piece of somebody real late that was That 145 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: was vn wasn't it? 146 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: Or Elvis? 147 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: That was Vin? Might have been Marshall. He might have 148 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: got I was on. I can remember. I see the 149 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: clip all the time. Yeah, but somebody I think, I 150 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: don't know who it was. Hit just Nick Nick the 151 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: guy ye And Joe was able to get out of 152 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: there and throw it and uh six sixty yards seven 153 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: yard whatever it was to Jacoba, And man, I was 154 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: you know, it was amazing play, you know, just seeing 155 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: it and finishing that, and you know in that game, 156 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: it was it was. It was a crazy game, and 157 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: it was back and forth, back and forth, and the 158 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: you know, I was me and Marshall, I remember over 159 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: his beard froze and man, we were just sitting back 160 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: and just we're in disbelief just knowing that there was 161 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: it was coming down to be a classic and uh, 162 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: just being a part of that, and you know, we 163 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: were so exhausted after the game, not to disrespect anybody. 164 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: But we knew we'd just walk go through the Patriots 165 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: and get to the super Bowl because you know, we 166 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 2: were that game against Denver up there. It was you know, 167 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: it was gladiator type stuff and uh, you know, it 168 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: was an amazing thing to be a part of. And 169 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: it was a tough, hard fall battle and anything else 170 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: after that was gonna be pretty easy. 171 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: I gotta get your take on this. Is it crazy 172 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 3: to turn on football on Sundays and see Joe Flacco 173 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: in a Brown's uniform, in a Bengals uniform. He's still playing. Obviously, 174 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: guys won a super Bowl together. But is that crazy 175 00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: for you to see that? 176 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: I mean in today and age with the way uh sports, uh, 177 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: medicineas exercise, size, nutrition and everything. You know, he's a 178 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: quarterback as well. Uh and Joe man, he was always 179 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 2: he always had that it factor as far as talent, 180 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: arm arm strength, Uh, being cerebral, uh, having the knowledge 181 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: of the game and just not letting anything bother him. 182 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, especially now, I think that's 183 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: a plus. Uh. With the mind, Uh, because football, believe 184 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: it or not, you have to be you have to 185 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: be intelligent and smart. I'm not saying, you know, these 186 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: guys aren't smart anymore right now, but uh, he's always 187 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: had those things. And when you have the stature that 188 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: he's had that he has, his size and quarterbacks, you know, 189 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: they're hard to find, hard to find, and you don't 190 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: have a lot of time like you used to to 191 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 2: get quarterbacks up the speed. And I think a lot 192 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: of that has helped him stay ahead of the curve 193 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: with the younger quarterbacks. So, uh, no, I enjoy watching him. 194 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 2: I enjoy seeing him. He was the toughest guy I knew. 195 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you get him hit sometimes and 196 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: you know, you see these quarterbacks now, they're you know, 197 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: like about to die. I'm like, you know, that's a 198 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: part of having confidence, given your offense, confidence, your old 199 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: line confidence. If you're getting up like you're about to 200 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: die all the time and you get hit, You're like, Jesus, 201 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: I'm scared this guy. I mean, I need you to 202 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: I need you to die in peace. You know, you know, 203 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: just don't let me see it, you know, because I'm like, man, 204 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: you just get him here a couple of times and 205 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: he just and don't worry about it. Just you know, 206 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: they gave me the confidence to keep batting for you, you know, 207 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: so if I always loved him for that. 208 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: The point the worst kind of that way too, he doesn't. 209 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: He does slop around big about that. That's good, that's. 210 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: A very good point. You can't you know that let 211 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: your line. I know you're with them, yep, because if 212 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: you're doing all that stuff and you're talking about me 213 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: behind closed door. 214 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: Exactly your job is to protect them. And then. 215 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: Can you talk about when the Ravens drafted you? You know, 216 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: they they traded up to come get you. They really 217 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: wanted you, you know, and you come in here and 218 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: and you became a starter like that, you know, I 219 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: mean it was a high bar and expectations and all that. 220 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: Can you talk about you know you. 221 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: Still I feel the loyalty that you have, you know, 222 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: for this organization for coming and getting you and drafting you. 223 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: What that experience is like and the feelings that it 224 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: still gives you. 225 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: But it changed my life. Uh, you know, I was 226 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: a kid. I had nothing, uh even up until that 227 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: that point, and a lot of teams didn't believe in 228 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: me because you know, obviously the Blindside book came out 229 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: while I was in college, and you know, it had 230 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: that I couldn't read. I couldn't write, I couldn't learn, So, 231 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: you know, and through that process, you know, a lot 232 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: of the teams questioned, you know, in the NFL, it's 233 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: a this is a I understand that looking back, I mean, 234 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: this is a big bus. You're investing a lot of 235 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: money in kids and these young people, and you know, 236 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: the things that they had on Michael or Big mic Man, 237 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have drafted because I'm a you know, uh, 238 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: you know a lot of people don't know me, but 239 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: you know, I love football. I was in love for 240 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: football and took a lot of pride and being smart 241 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: at it from the time I started watching the Cowboys 242 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 2: when I was ten years old, and took a ton 243 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 2: of pride in being smart at it. 244 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: Uh. 245 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: And I don't like players who can't get it the 246 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: first time. Me coaching now and kids and being around 247 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: NFL guys, college guys, I mean that's important. Though a 248 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 2: lot of teams, teams, you know, they backed off from me, 249 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: and they just didn't think. They didn't get to know me. Uh, 250 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: they didn't get to know me at all. And the 251 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: Ravens they were the only team that sat down with me. 252 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 2: I was here. Probably felt like a couple of days. 253 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 2: I talked to everybody in this building, every single person 254 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: in this building. They got to know me who I was, 255 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: got to know my personality, and they understood that I 256 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: was loved football, I knew football. I want this, I 257 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: wanted I wasn't this dumb guy that everybody thought I was. So, 258 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: you know, I just sitting me in the office, I 259 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: can remember him, you know, in the South. We you 260 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: got to get to know people. I'm not going to 261 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: open up to you if I don't know you. You know, 262 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: and he's obviously he's, you know, one of us. I'm 263 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: trying to play shots. He's cut that out with me, 264 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: you know, get your look, you know, I get to 265 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: laugh and we get to talk and have a good. 266 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: Time out of Yeah, you see the real person, no. 267 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: Doubt, no doubt. So that's what they did when I 268 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: was coming out and nobody else did that. Uh, and 269 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 2: that's why nobody else did that. I was going visits 270 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: and come by and all. Let nobody got to know 271 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: who I was. The Ravens. What's the only team that 272 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: did that for me? And Uh, that's to be honest 273 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: with you, I think the only reason I was drafted 274 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: in the first round because they got to know who 275 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: I was. And uh that's why I love the Ravens 276 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: tell this day. Uh so they gave me the chance 277 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: that I needed. 278 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really cool. 279 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: Do you did you get the sense of that time 280 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: that everyone in the perception of you, like people just 281 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: took it from the book, the movie, the Hollywood version 282 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: of you, and that they didn't really have any sort 283 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: of perspective on who this guy is. They're like, all right, 284 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: well we've made our mind up on who this guy 285 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: is based on what I've read or what I've seen, 286 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: and that was enough for teams. 287 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: It was definitely and I understand, I just you know, 288 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: wish And one of my biggest regrets is I was 289 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: just too I was so focused on the NFL. Uh 290 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: from I didn't read the blind Side book. I regret 291 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: that not reading that in college. That's one of my 292 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: biggest regrets. And you know that's why, you know, I 293 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: always tell people you got to get to know people. 294 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: You got to reget the no people and you know, 295 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: not you know, take somebody work, somebody's word for it, 296 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: or or something that you seen or heard. You know, 297 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: so just watching a Football Life. I've seen all the 298 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: football lives and that I was watching Jimmy Johnson's A 299 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: Football Life, and at fifteen minutes and fifty three seconds 300 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: on the YouTube, Bill Belichick and they were on the 301 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: boat and he said one thing Jimmy Johnson told him 302 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: was not the draft of player. And I can remember 303 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: the Patriots. They had a scout at the Senior Bowl, 304 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: big guy, about four hundred and fifty pounds, and remember 305 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: him grilling me on just all kind of stuff about 306 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: education stuff and all that, and and the Patriots was 307 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: actually had to pick that. The Ravens traded, you know, 308 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: things like that, sit with me and make it, you know, 309 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: things like that. So you have to get to know 310 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: people like the Ravens. They do their due dealings just 311 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: what they used to do. They're still in the running 312 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: every year for Super Bowl, so they're still doing the 313 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: same thing. But you have to sit down and do 314 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: the work and put the time in. And you know, 315 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: that's what the Ravens, uh, that's what they always done, 316 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: was put the And we always had guys who loved 317 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: football in the football when I was here, and they 318 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: you know, took a serious and a lot of the 319 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: guys had the same personality. You know, we uh we connected. 320 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: We hung out and still got group text mess you 321 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: can call and have the same conversations, and you know 322 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: that's uh, you know why every year I think they're 323 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: you know, in consideration for a Super Bowl year and 324 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: and year out. 325 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: So you know, did you did you leave here feeling like, oh, 326 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 3: they're they're asking different questions, like they're Ozzie is getting 327 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: to know me on a level different than I've experienced 328 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: at other teams, Like did you come out of that 329 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: visit here feeling like this is where I'm gonna go? 330 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 3: And you never can predict the draft, of course, but 331 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: there at least this is a different conversation here than 332 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 3: I'm having elsewhere. 333 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I man, I was. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. 334 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 2: Uh uh. I had a great time of sitting in 335 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: the sitting in there with ever uh Da Costa and 336 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: those guys. Man, and it was just my personality. You know, 337 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,239 Speaker 2: you could see all my personality. It was out, it 338 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: was out in their shoulder. But you know, I'm thinking 339 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: I'm the best tackling in the draft at the time, 340 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: So I think they had they was in the hot twenties. 341 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: I can't get going to be drafted here. But I 342 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: didn't know the other stuff at the time. So no 343 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: teams take you off your board, off their board and 344 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: stuff like that, because like I said. 345 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 4: Do you get reports the teams actually took you off. 346 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: What I've heard, Wow, you know, like I said, their loss. 347 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: That's it. But you know you said, but I get it. 348 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: I get it. You have to this. This is a 349 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: very tough business, and you have to have guys in 350 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 2: there that are you know, in it for football, you know, 351 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: and man that's in that's important. And you know, obviously 352 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 2: you know, the Ravens say, you know, believe me, believed 353 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: in me enough, and uh, through Chad Alexander text me, uh, 354 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: you know a couple of months. It was probably a 355 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: year or so ago now, But. 356 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 4: For Ravens front office executive, be a scout. 357 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: You know, he was one of the guys who vouched 358 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, big time. And I always, you know, 359 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 2: think about text me every now and Dan and stuff 360 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: like that. But you know, he I don't want to 361 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: say he's from Memphis, but he had some kind of 362 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: Memphis ties and you know he kind of knew who 363 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: I was as a person as well, So you know, 364 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: it's just you know, the due diligence, the resources that 365 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: you have to put into being a great organization. 366 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 1: I remember you kind of grappling with all of this 367 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: back during your player days when you were here, And 368 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: I remember sitting down with you during the Super Bowl 369 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: and actually having the week leading up to it and 370 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: having a good conversation about this, and it was a 371 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: hard thing from what I remember, It was a hard 372 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: thing for you to kind of deal with that you 373 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: were the selec out there to so many people who 374 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: were reading the book, watching the movie, and you were 375 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: you were this celebrity, but you were like that ain't 376 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: me right, you know, And like I always felt like 377 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: that was a kind of a weight on your shoulders 378 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: to a degree, because you were thankful for some of 379 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: what that did for you in your life. 380 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 4: But like, it ain't good to read or watch something. 381 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 4: You're like, they got it wrong. 382 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: And I wrote a story called the Real Michael or 383 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: I'll never forget this. The Real Michael Or was the headline. 384 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: That story blew up, Like people loved that story because 385 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: they loved getting to know like this was fake, this 386 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: was not Mike, and Mike is a smart dude or 387 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: like yeah, and like you know you're you're a smart 388 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: dude who loved football, and like you didn't have nobody 389 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: else made your life for you. 390 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 4: You made your life. 391 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: And so can you talk about what it took for 392 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: you mentally and emotionally to get past that. 393 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: I've never got pasted it with you because I was 394 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: had the ability mentally and physically to be in ken 395 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: That was my goal coming into the NFL, And the 396 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 2: best part of my life was from April to November. Uh, 397 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: my rookie year and I was having a heck of 398 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 2: a year. And you know the movie came out after that, 399 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: and uh, you know I started to be this bad 400 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: football player all over a sudden, not because I was 401 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: on the field, but because people I became a target, 402 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: Uh you know, if I had done something, did something wrong. 403 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: You know, social media was just coming out or or 404 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 2: media putting things in the paper and all that. So 405 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: now you know, the fans got this totally different view 406 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 2: of who this football player is, and you know I 407 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: became't you know, that's you know one of the reasons why, 408 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: Uh it's my first game back in Baltimore because you know, 409 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: of fans. They were kind of hard on me. You know, 410 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: they would call up to the facility bad uh you know, 411 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 2: letters and just social media. Still to this day, I 412 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 2: get negative things on social media, and it's not because 413 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: of me being you know this football bad football players, 414 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 2: because uh, something else that I had nothing to do with. 415 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: And you know, I became yeah, the love kind of 416 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: uh left of me and I was just doing it 417 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: just playing football instead of you know, just being all 418 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: out and uh, you know, still something that I deal 419 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 2: with because football is something that I, you know, really 420 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: care to care about, you know, so you know when 421 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: something that you had no control over coming derails that, 422 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: you know, that kind of that upsets me a little bit. 423 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: But you know what I always said was it's still 424 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: changed a lot of people's lives and it inspired a 425 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: lot of people to play football to enjoy offensive line. 426 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 2: Still see kids say they we're seventy four because of 427 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: because of me. So but that piece, it's not because 428 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: I'm you know, I've seen something and ungrateful all that 429 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. You know, when something that's very important 430 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: to you and you believe in and you know, something 431 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 2: that you know got you from being homeless at three 432 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: years old, and I was homeless up until I was 433 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: up until really I got to college and I lived 434 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: with a different at a different home freshman, sophomore, junior, 435 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: senior year of high school, and I felt that I 436 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: was going to be stable for the next three or 437 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: four years in college. And when something like that takes 438 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 2: gets taken away from you, your hard work. You're becoming 439 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: all American in high school. I mean, uh, your senior 440 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: year while you're sleeping on the floor. Uh, when that 441 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 2: stuff gets taken away from you, I'm gonna get upset, 442 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, so you know it's something that you know, Uh, 443 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm doing better with. But that's a lot of hard 444 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 2: work and a lot of sacrifices that you know, I 445 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: turned down from uh doing the total opposite from every 446 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: kid I grew up around and turning away from the 447 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: streets and uh when I could have easily given up. 448 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: So you know, those are things that you know that 449 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: uh runs deep. But you know, getting moving on. I 450 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: got great thing going and uh you know, so you 451 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 2: know it's all good. 452 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. 453 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 3: How much in that time did you was football? It's 454 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: interesting to hear you talk about it because in some 455 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: ways football is like a safe haven and that's like 456 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 3: you love the game, And that was I started hearing 457 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 3: twenty eleven, and that was one of the things I 458 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: remember in meeting you, and of course knowing the story 459 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: and all this stuff, and then meeting you, I was like, man, 460 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 3: this guy loves football like he's hard worker, He practices 461 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 3: every day like he's tough. And those were things that 462 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 3: I remember right away from back in that time when 463 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 3: I started here. And I think a lot of guys 464 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: talk about how being between those white lines is where 465 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: I felt most at home, and there's all this noise 466 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: whatever their situation is, and that would allow them to 467 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 3: be kind of in their their safe space. But in 468 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 3: hearing you talk about it, it almost to some degree 469 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 3: kind of felt like there was I don't know if 470 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 3: a burden is the right word. As you try to play, 471 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 3: knowing everything that was going. 472 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 4: On, how was was it a safe space? 473 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 3: Like how did you look at the football aspect when 474 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 3: you were in the midst of that early in your career. 475 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: Now, my safe space was in the being and in 476 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: the locker room. That's when I was my most comfortable 477 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: being around the guys. Inside the locker room, they they 478 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: know who I am as a person wants. Like I said, 479 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: after November my rookie year, going outside of these buildings, 480 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: I really didn't enjoy, to be honest with you, you know, so, 481 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 2: but being in the locker room, knowing the guys who 482 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 2: know you and uh know what kind of player person 483 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: you are. Uh, the love that you have. But you know, 484 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: when you're playing safe and not to do stuff and 485 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: not to have a penalty and not playing as hard 486 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: as you can. Uh, being in the white lines on 487 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: game they didn't mean nothing. 488 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: Uh. 489 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: I still uh, I still got the job done adequately, 490 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 2: but not up to to the ability that that you know, 491 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: I think I could have. So, you know, but the 492 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 2: locker room and your coaches and you know, things like that, 493 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: that's that's what I enjoyed the most. Yeah. 494 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: Well, honestly, I hope like fans listen to this and 495 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: realize the impact that they can have on players, Like 496 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: this game is is so physical, but it is also 497 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: mental and and like players hear this stuff and like 498 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: it can resonate with them. So honestly, I just like 499 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: hope that fans kind of take note of that. 500 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it made you know, because I was 501 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: a guy. Uh, I'm coming from poverty and I love 502 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: the fans, and I was playing for the fans, you know, 503 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: because I knew. I felt like I've always been down 504 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: to earth and just one of the one of the. 505 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: One of the people, one of one of the people 506 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 4: for the people. 507 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: And you get people dogging you and talking about you 508 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: all the time, and you seeing that you know, it's 509 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: not uh, you're playing great and you know, you look 510 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: up look at something and it's the total opposite. I'm like, man, 511 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 2: what and that's just dry. It just you know, it 512 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: drives me crazy. But at the end of the day, 513 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: you know, people want to say, you're getting paid a 514 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: lot of money to play football and all that, but 515 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: this is a kids game and these football players, man, 516 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 2: we are human at the end of the day too, 517 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: so and our job is it's to win. But you know, 518 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: we want to be able to get out there and 519 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: touch the people and you know, and that's what it's 520 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 2: all about at the end of the day, entertainment and 521 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: we want to you know, we want to make everybody happy. 522 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: Don't matter how much money you're making, you want to 523 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: feel valued, respected and like you're doing a good job. 524 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: And when fans are saying that it doesn't matter, and 525 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm really glad to hear that you're in a in 526 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: a great space, in a better place now, Mike, and 527 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: I do want to, you know, let fans know. They 528 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: always want to know about foreign players. What are you 529 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: up to now? Like, so tell listeners and viewers, you know, 530 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: what are you doing now? I know you have a 531 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: big family. Tell them a little bit about how you're doing. 532 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, living Nashville, Uh with my family, volunteer UH, coach 533 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: my son at Ellipsicomb Academy. Uh offensive line d line. 534 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: Also have a foundation. Uh. I partner with different schools, 535 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: Ellipschomist one of my partner schools, and kids disadvantaged youth. Uh, 536 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: you know, give them an opportunity uh page scholarship intuition, 537 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: UH for you know, mentorship. Uh so the kids can 538 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: a kid like myself who uh does not play sports. Uh, 539 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: because it was I graduated from a Brian christ Christian school, 540 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: private school. But the only reason I got I went 541 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: to that school was because I was a heck of 542 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: an athlete. And that's just the bottom line. And I 543 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: want to put kids that who don't have those opportunities 544 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: or uh, because you know, I love football, but I 545 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: always had planned b's. I always if I didn't make it. Uh. 546 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: I can remember my senior year college, you know, all 547 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: of this stuff. But I was still thinking of who 548 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: I was going to go to if I didn't get 549 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: draft or if I didn't making it to the NFL. 550 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: Who I was gonna you know, ask for a job 551 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: and who you know, things like that. And I always 552 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: had those type of things in my mind from a 553 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: ten year old, eleven year old kid. You know, I 554 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: just wanted to have four or five jobs, you know, football, basketball. 555 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: That wasn't going to be the end all for me. 556 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: So it worked out, and I'm glad it did. I'm glad, 557 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: but for a lot of kids is not so. And 558 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: a lot of kids aren't going to have that athletic 559 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: ability to uh to be afforded these things. So my 560 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 2: thing is to you know, help as many kids as 561 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: I can possibly can to you know, be afforded, uh, 562 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: you know, education and being around people that they can 563 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: you know, like minded individuals that are motivated, and I 564 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: want to be great. I was actually in talks with 565 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: McDonald's school here uh in Saint Paul here in Nashville 566 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: about bringing the Ore Scholarship here. It's Baltimore. So uh, 567 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: you know, that's just want to I eventually want to 568 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: have it all over, you know, because a lot of 569 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: people talk about education, but they don't really mean it. 570 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: And you know, education, that's something that's tangible. You can't 571 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: take you can't take that away from. If you have that, man, 572 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: you can do You're you shouldn't be poor, you shouldn't 573 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: be uh living in poverty. Uh, you can do so 574 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: many different things. So I think that's the winning piece 575 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: if we want to change as a society, if we 576 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: want to you know, see things, uh see things changing 577 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: and the communities ah, you know around the country. So 578 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: you know that's the you know that that's something that 579 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm doing. You know, I'm enjoying it all, enjoying life. Man. 580 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: You know. My thing was when I started this journey 581 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: was to work so hard where I can be in 582 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: this position that I am right now. So that was 583 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: always my goal, you know. But uh, you know it 584 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: started I'm back here now because it started with the Ravens. 585 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: So uh, without them believing in me, and yeah, I 586 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: just hold him a ton souse. You know, without them, 587 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what. 588 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 4: I think he would have made it, but we helped help. 589 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I think I was off the 590 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: off the board on thirty one. Other team, the Ravens 591 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: was my only hope. I'm telling you, jeez, I'm telling 592 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: Big Mike he was. He must have been a hell 593 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: of a football player, man, learning football like he did 594 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: and you know, can't read and write, and he must 595 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: have been dominating out the Ravens said, Man, don't worry 596 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: about that. We can we can fix it. But it's it's. 597 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: All, well, is it just quickly before we wrap like 598 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 3: the games this weekend? You're back in this building as 599 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 3: we as we have this great conversation, like, man, it's 600 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 3: it's it's it's awesome to hear like what this these 601 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: these four walls kind of meant to you, like in 602 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: your career in this place and the people. Is it strange? 603 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 3: Is it emotional? 604 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 4: Is it? 605 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: Like? 606 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 4: What do you what? 607 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: What do you feel as you're back here in this 608 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 3: building and then knowing that you're gonna be back in 609 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: the stadium on Sunday? 610 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: Oh man, it really felt like the day I got drafted. 611 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, you know, obviously I wanted 612 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: to you know, be here a lot longer and all that, 613 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: and uh it didn't work out that way. But h man, 614 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: I just you know, you just feel like a kid, 615 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: feel like a kid because uh, like I said, it 616 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 2: was my safe haven for five seasons here, and uh, 617 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: you know, I knew I had to support that I needed, 618 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: and I just enjoyed coming in here. Was that why 619 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: I was the first one in all the time, first 620 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: one in every day and the last one out because 621 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it every I enjoyed it that much, man. 622 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I'd just be out there practicing, 623 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: and you know, like you said, I never missed a 624 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: practice of here on time, and I just used to 625 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 2: have tears tears of joy all the time just practicing, 626 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 2: you know, uh those I just enjoyed it all because 627 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: I knew how hard it was to get to the NFL, 628 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: how hard it is to stay in the NFL, and 629 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: how important it is, you know, uh, you know, just 630 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 2: to you know, how special special it is to be 631 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: a part of something like that. You know, you see 632 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: the guys that has came through here, and you know, 633 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 2: I just I was a fan of every player, just 634 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 2: the star players. Uh, I just enjoy being around everybody, 635 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: so uh, you know, just being like you said, these 636 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: four walls and being around these people who know uh 637 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: you know that, you know when I see guys and 638 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 2: you guys, I played left tackle, right tackle, left tackle, 639 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 2: really making sacrifices. But the Ravens what you know, they 640 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: brought you here because they believe in the things that 641 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: you can do. You know, so when guys get up, man, 642 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 2: I can be doing this or I can be doing that. 643 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't It didn't. It never bothered me 644 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: because they believe that I can do it, and I 645 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: believe that I could do it, and I did it 646 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 2: like I was, like it was normal. But it's really 647 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 2: not normal to do what I did, going from position 648 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 2: to position. I see guys, I see guys try to 649 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 2: do it, and it's not normal and it's hard to do. 650 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: Some guy, a couple of guys can, but you know 651 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: it's rare because I pay attention to all that kind 652 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: of stuff, and you know, they believe in you, and 653 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 2: you know you're here because you're just a guy for 654 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 2: the job. 655 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: So awesome, awesome, but great to see you. Thank you 656 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: for sharing your story. 657 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 4: It's really a pleasure forward. 658 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 3: Think that that recognition on Sunday at the game. 659 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thank you guys for having me. 660 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 4: Thank you. 661 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the lounge. We are coming to you 662 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 3: from the Sea Geek Studio. We want to mention our 663 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 3: partners with Drafting sports Book. They are an official sports 664 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 3: betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draftking Sports Book. The 665 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 3: Crown is yours well. Huge thanks uh to Michael Lare. 666 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 3: Really admire his openness and willingness to to share and 667 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 3: talk about his career, his life. It's awesome to see 668 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 3: how well he's doing down there in Nashville with his 669 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: foundation work, his families, coaching football. Uh, it's just it's 670 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 3: it's great to see him doing well. And I'm appreciative 671 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 3: and commend him for for just being as open and 672 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 3: honest as he was. 673 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that you could see the impact that 674 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: all that pressure, that outside pressure had on him in 675 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: his career and and just as a person, you know, 676 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: still carrying that with him to this day, like you said, 677 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: And so to see him doing well, you know, and 678 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: kind of trying to work through that and doing well 679 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: in life is really great. 680 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 4: And hey, I'll say this too. 681 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: You know, for as much criticism as fans gave him 682 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: back then, Ravens, don't win the super. 683 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 4: Bowl without Michael Oh. 684 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 3: He was a huge piece of that. 685 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 4: Do not win the super Bowl without him. 686 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: And so, like, I think he did not get the 687 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: appreciation that he deserved during his playing days back here either, 688 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: and so I really hope he gets that appreciation here 689 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,439 Speaker 1: on Sunday with a loud ovation well. 690 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 3: As he walks out of the building and walks through 691 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 3: the lobby and looks at that second Lombardi Trophy sitting 692 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 3: in the lobby. He was a huge piece of that. 693 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 3: We mentioned it, like that offensive line that season in 694 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 3: twenty twelve shuffle things around, and that was the strength 695 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 3: of the offense that went into the playoffs, allowed Joe 696 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 3: Flacco to be at his best, and that was the 697 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 3: catalyst as you as you said, he was a huge 698 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 3: piece of the equation. So you know, he had a 699 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 3: really good career. 700 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: And you know it's even the name of the book 701 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: in the movie, the blind Side like set him up 702 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 1: and then he goes from left tackle to right tackle 703 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: and that naturally even put him in this position where 704 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: he's like, well, I'm not fulfilling what I was supposedly 705 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: supposed to you know, supposed to fulfill, and so uh yeah, 706 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: just all of that. But hey, he was a heck 707 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: of a heck of a right tackle too. It didn't 708 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: matter and uh really important. 709 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So again, thanks to him for joining us. And 710 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 3: I know it's gonna be a great moment for him 711 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 3: and he's gonna get a lot autovation when he walks 712 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 3: on the field at mc bak Stadium on Sunday. So, 713 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 3: as always, you can email us at the lounge at 714 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 3: Ravens dot NFL dot net. Thank you so much to 715 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 3: Michael Orr for joining us today and thank you for 716 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 3: watching him for listening, and we'll be back with you 717 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 3: again soon