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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with

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Speaker 2: Carme Vitally. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us.

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Speaker 2: Happy NFL combine KARMI you just got back.

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Speaker 3: Right, sure did you? Guys are gonna be You're gonna

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Speaker 3: be able to hear it my voice.

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Speaker 4: All hear it? Yeah, I hear it.

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Speaker 3: I'm probably my voice is gonna crack a couple of Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's the sign of a great time. Can I just

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Speaker 2: say that, like you had a time, I was following

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Speaker 2: along in all your stories and everyone that's out there,

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Speaker 2: that's still like a bucket list week that I feel

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Speaker 2: like I need to experience at some point in the

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Speaker 2: combine an that's till anyone.

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Speaker 4: Says it's my favorite week.

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Speaker 2: Literally everyone who goes, that's all they say it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's the actual, you know, purpose of it,

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Speaker 3: which is these prospects, this is their chance to meet

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Speaker 3: with NFL teams to fulfill their dream to you know,

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Speaker 3: there's there's the on field stuff that's currently going on

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Speaker 3: right now, and they work so incredibly hard for these moments,

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Speaker 3: and so it's really inspirational and you get to know

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Speaker 3: these guys when you go, you know, they're speaking at

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Speaker 3: the podium, they let you into their personality.

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Speaker 4: A little bit.

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Speaker 3: I love that, and it's really cool from that perspective,

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Speaker 3: but from a journalistic perspective, and you know, if you're

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Speaker 3: going to cover the combine, I mean, this is where

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Speaker 3: you build up essentially your knowledge for the next season already.

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Speaker 3: This is where you're meeting with you know, the scout

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Speaker 3: friend that you have over here, the coaching friend over here.

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Speaker 4: This you find out that this coach just moved to this.

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Speaker 3: Team, and now you have like more connections than you

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Speaker 3: even knew, and you get to see these guys and everybody.

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Speaker 3: You cannot go more than ten feet I swear, Alex,

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Speaker 3: Yeah without running into someone. You know, Like when you say, oh,

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Speaker 3: I'll come over to the convention center, I'll meet you

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Speaker 3: in fifteen minutes, it never takes fifteen minutes get there.

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Speaker 3: It will take you a half hour to forty five

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Speaker 3: minutes to get over there because you just keep running

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Speaker 3: into people.

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Speaker 4: And it's so much fun.

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Speaker 5: I love that so much. Okay, we're going to dive

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Speaker 5: into that in just a second.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Baseball is also officially back you guys, we've now had

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Speaker 2: a full weakest spring training games. Will the Dodger three

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Speaker 2: p we have the World Baseball Classic happening. I think

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Speaker 2: a week from today, will this be Lebron's last season

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Speaker 2: or just with the Lakers. We're gonna dive into all that.

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Speaker 2: We have producer Ian with us today, Technical producer Chris

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Speaker 2: and Martin Wise at the news desk. But let's get.

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Speaker 5: Started with what Karmie was just talking about.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the NFL Combine, because she kind of just painted

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Speaker 2: the picture of yes, everyone is there for what, Like

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Speaker 2: I'm watching it right now, and it's basically, it's a workout.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a it's the underweare Olympics, as all the

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Speaker 3: coaches call it.

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Speaker 2: It's so wild because it's like, what are you really

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Speaker 2: going to get out of the combine?

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Speaker 5: And we're going to kind of get into that in

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Speaker 5: a second. It's so funny.

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Speaker 2: I heard Cody Decker call it the NFL Combine the

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Speaker 2: NFL's Winter Meetings, which is like where baseball like everyone

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Speaker 2: comes together and where all the deals happens, where all

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Speaker 2: the conversations happens, where the press has happen, and that

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Speaker 2: kind of feels like what this is, But what is

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Speaker 2: the most valuable piece of the combine. That's my question here.

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Speaker 2: It's it's the connections that you make.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's also the chance for you as

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Speaker 3: a team even to kind of get sot. So much

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Speaker 3: of the combine I think is geared towards the draft, right.

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Speaker 3: These are the draft prospects that we're seeing, and this

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Speaker 3: is the time that these draft prospects get to meet

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Speaker 4: This, that the other.

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Speaker 3: But what this also is, Yeah, don't forget what's in

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Speaker 3: two weeks. It's free agency.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's usually getting made. This is what this is.

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Speaker 3: Really the lead up to free agency more than anything else.

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Speaker 3: And so it is a chance for gms to meet

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Speaker 3: with other gms, to meet with agents, to meet with

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Speaker 3: I mean, every single restaurant I think in India has

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Speaker 3: And you know, there's a scar bar, there's the upstairs

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Speaker 3: getting struck. That that's the really, that's the really fun

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Speaker 3: part though, And as a reporter that goes to the

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Speaker 5: You don't say anything, you don't take phone.

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Speaker 3: You don't yeah, like like I'm not gonna take my

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Speaker 3: phone out and take a picture of when I see

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Speaker 3: like again one of those conversations happening.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you get blind.

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Speaker 4: Of oh absolutely.

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Speaker 3: And there's places that have like become that were big places,

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Speaker 3: this is all on background. It's very much understood that

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Speaker 2: Kind of club like you don't take your phone out

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Speaker 2: like so you can't take photos like you just know that.

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Speaker 3: You and and it's an inherent thing that you just

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Speaker 3: kind of ascribe and and and you're rewarded for it

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Speaker 3: though at this at the end of the day, because

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Speaker 3: you're also you prove that trust and now you know

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Speaker 3: you're part of the conversation and you get to kind

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Speaker 3: of you know, like you get to bend an ear

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Speaker 3: to some of this kind of stuff and some of

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Speaker 3: these guys, you know, there's a lot of there's a

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Speaker 3: whole like it's it's a game, it's it's it's the

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Speaker 3: how like we need to We're gonna leak this because

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Speaker 3: we want this to happen. Like there's a whole strategy

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Speaker 3: behind it, and it's it's really fun to me to

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Speaker 3: doing it, you can kind of see through some of

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Speaker 3: the reasoning behind why wait, why are you telling me this?

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Speaker 3: Everything needs to you need to have like really good

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Speaker 3: critical thinking skills with the combine and outside of that though,

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Speaker 3: it is really fun to just see people that you

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Speaker 3: really only get the chance to see once a year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And also like it's different because Super Bowl it's like,

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Speaker 5: It still matters. Everyone's out there.

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Speaker 2: This is just like the the GMS, the Execs, the

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Speaker 4: It's just you take away all of the extra.

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Speaker 5: Except for the Rams and the Jags.

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Speaker 2: Not surprising because Jack said coach Liam Combe comes from

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's a growing kind of contingent of teams

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Speaker 3: everybody to the combine, and people have opinions on that.

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Speaker 3: You can go either way on it, because you can

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Speaker 3: bring in these guys, like, if you really want to

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Speaker 3: get your hands on these guys, you have thirty you

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Speaker 4: You can choose thirty guys.

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Speaker 2: That come into Yeah, so let's get to that. When

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Speaker 2: it comes to the players, the combine is for the

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Speaker 2: top prospects, right, It's a personality fit chemistry tests, if

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Speaker 2: you will do We think this is a great fit

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Speaker 2: for so many people. But now we have social media

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Speaker 2: But I feel like a lot of these middle of

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Speaker 3: They can and I mean, you know, forty times are

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Speaker 4: In a straight line.

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Speaker 3: Never, But it is a kind of you know, an

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Speaker 4: To the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: And there's there's little things like that that you can

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Speaker 5: The personality tests, and it's.

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Speaker 3: It's more than that these guys are quizzing them. So

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Speaker 3: what what very often happens is they'll go into the

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Speaker 3: or it's it's it's a it's a it's an individual test,

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Speaker 3: it's an intellectual test, it's a football IQ test on

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Speaker 3: top of kind of the personality stuff. And it's really interesting,

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Speaker 3: it kind of comes out when you hear these guys

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Speaker 3: teams itself as the prospects itself. So there's something to

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Speaker 2: I think it's different also for every player because right

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Speaker 2: now we're watching the quarterback prospects throw and Fernando Mendoza

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Speaker 2: he's going to throw at his pro day at and

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Speaker 2: the two, which that makes sense, you know, like everyone

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Speaker 2: already knows what they're gonna get from Fernando. His personality

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Speaker 2: postgame interviews, his late night talk show appearances. This man

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Speaker 2: And if everything goes away we think it should go,

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Speaker 2: he's going to end up the first overall pick and

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Speaker 2: end up in Las Vegas. Do you have I guess

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Speaker 2: you said you're gonna be going to his pro day

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Speaker 2: in Indiana? Do you have an opinion on what kind

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Speaker 2: of what matters more the testing or the tape. So,

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Speaker 2: when they're going to be there at the pro day

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Speaker 2: and you're testing them and doing all these things, does

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Speaker 2: that take any precedent over like what we've already seen.

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Speaker 3: No, not at all, because if you think about it too,

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Speaker 3: it's a very controlled environment. At your pro day. You're

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Speaker 3: You have the chemistry, you have all that built up.

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Speaker 3: You get favorable kind of you know, even in the

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Speaker 2: in Luca and Lebron, who we know can be incredible,

443
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Speaker 2: we've seen the potential separately, and we've seen glimpses of

444
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Speaker 2: it of them together, you're always going to have championship

445
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Speaker 2: or bus mentality, right. I think JJ was talking about

446
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Speaker 2: it in a presser one of the buzzer beater potential

447
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 2: losses that they blewed this week. There were two back

448
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Speaker 2: to back, and he just said, our losses are bigger.

449
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Speaker 2: The spotlight is always on us. And that's true when

450
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Speaker 2: you're on a team and a brand like the Lakers.

451
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Speaker 2: But I think it's also time to look in the

452
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Speaker 2: mirror and say, I don't know if this is going

453
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Speaker 2: to work with these two guys together.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's an also an added pressure

455
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Speaker 3: which kind of works against the partnership between Lebron and Luca. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 3: but this being like Lebron's potential last year in the league,

457
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Speaker 3: wants to go out on top.

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Speaker 4: Didn't come back for nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was all these expectations you went and you

460
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Speaker 3: hit the blockbuster trade. Which the thing is, though, like

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Speaker 3: I'm not of course you were going to do that too.

462
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Speaker 3: You have to because it from the Maverick side of things,

463
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Speaker 3: You're like, why would you do that trade?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: But like for the like I always I liken it

466
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Speaker 3: back to what the Packers did in the NFL when

467
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Speaker 3: they traded for Micah Parsons, which is like they signaled

468
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Speaker 3: to everyone that they were going after a Super Bowl, right,

469
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Speaker 3: because that was a huge trade and they gave up

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Speaker 3: like a whole lot to get him.

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Speaker 4: But that wasn't this with the Luca Dantis.

472
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Speaker 3: If Luca Dontis was made available to you by the

473
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Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks for what was like not that much capital

474
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Speaker 3: and you're not leveraging your few like you know, three

475
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Speaker 3: four years into the future for him, then of course

476
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Speaker 3: you were going to go and do that. And there's always,

477
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Speaker 3: like you just said, there's always championship caliber expectations on

478
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Speaker 3: the Lakers, and there already was this year, specifically because

479
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Speaker 3: of the fact that you didn't know how much longer

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Speaker 3: Lebron was going to play. Now, with that, Lebron is

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Speaker 3: still quote unquote in charge. This is still quote unquote

482
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Speaker 3: his team. Yeah, but then you bring in this is

483
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Speaker 3: what happens when you bring in another superstar and that

484
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Speaker 3: have similar skills sets.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not as if like.

486
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Speaker 5: Similar styles, similar styles.

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Speaker 3: It's not as if they're like complimentary pieces in the

488
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Speaker 3: way that we've seen some of like the Big Three

489
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Speaker 3: in in like Golden State.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but also a D with Lebron, Like this team

491
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Speaker 2: was structured around Lebron and a D, which they complemented

492
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Speaker 2: each other.

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Speaker 3: Right, And now you you have some redundancy between Luca

494
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Speaker 3: and Lebron, and it's like, all right, whose team is

495
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Speaker 3: it really? And these guys have a lot of ego

496
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Speaker 3: and it often doesn't end up working super symbiotically. And

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Speaker 3: I think that's what we're seeing. And like, I don't

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Speaker 3: blame Lebron necessarily for wanting to have control over it,

499
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Speaker 3: because again, if this is his last year, yeah, like.

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Speaker 4: I don't want the control.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that but is he playing up to the

502
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Speaker 3: standard that gives him the control, which is no, Luca's

503
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Speaker 3: leading the team, Lucas leading the league in points average

504
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Speaker 3: right now, and that's something that you need to kind

505
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Speaker 3: of yield if you're a Lebron and that's not something

506
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Speaker 3: he's going to do, right, So that's that it like

507
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Speaker 3: those those lights shine real, real bright, like JJ Redicks

508
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: said on the Los Angeles Lakers no matter what. But

509
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Speaker 3: then you're gonna add this kind of pressure on top

510
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Speaker 3: of this kind of ego and it just doesn't seem

511
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Speaker 3: like it's a recipe for a whole lot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, success, it's tough.

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Speaker 2: I mean, both the Lakers and Lebron have already gotten

514
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Speaker 2: what they needed out of this deal. The Lakers won

515
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Speaker 2: a championship, Lebron's net worth doubled. But I think it's

516
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Speaker 2: time after this season to build the team around Luca

517
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Speaker 2: that is going to be your future, right because we

518
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Speaker 2: don't know this is Lebron's last year on his contract.

519
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Speaker 2: Will this be his last year? He hasn't said anything yet,

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Speaker 2: and I think he's kind of a guy that would

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Speaker 2: do a farewell tour and let everybody know. I don't

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Speaker 2: see him just like Mike drop him out, and especially

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Speaker 2: like after a season like this, So that's gonna be

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Speaker 2: really interesting. We're gonna have Mark Medina on in just

525
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Speaker 2: a minute and we're gonna get some inside info on that.

526
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Speaker 2: But right now, let's check in with Martin wise and

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Speaker 2: see what's trending.

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Speaker 4: In the NBA.

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Speaker 9: With six minutes sixteen seconds up in the first after

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Speaker 9: he lead the Rockets forty one to thirty three, Ban

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Speaker 9: Bat of Biowa has nine points. Kevin Durant matching that

532
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Speaker 9: on his end with nine points himself earlier today. So

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Speaker 9: the Hornets beat the Trailblazers one oh nine to ninety

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Speaker 9: three Brandon Miller with twenty six points and eight rebounds.

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Speaker 9: Hornets have won eight straight games. In commen's college basketball,

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Speaker 9: Second ranked Arizona leads fourteenth rand Kens just twenty five

537
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Speaker 9: to eleven. You know, ten minuts left in the first half. There,

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Speaker 9: Duke beaten eleventh rank Virginia seventy seven to fifty one,

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Speaker 9: Cameron Booser with eighteen points and nine rebounds due clinching

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Speaker 9: a part of the a SEC.

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Speaker 4: Title with that win.

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Speaker 9: Fifth ranked Houston snapped a three game losing streak this afternoon,

543
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Speaker 9: beating Colorado by forty one two to sixty two. Sixth

544
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Speaker 9: ranked Yukon was down eight and the second half came

545
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Speaker 9: back to win seventy one to sixty seven, twenty three

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Speaker 9: points from Alex Caravan. Clemson up say twenty fourth rank

547
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Speaker 9: Louisville eighty to seventy five Kentucky twenty fifth ranked Vanderbilt

548
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Speaker 9: ninety one to seventy seven. In the NHL, the Rangers

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Speaker 9: beat the Penguins three to two in a shootout. About

550
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Speaker 9: twelve minutes left in the second period, the Flyers and

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Speaker 9: the Bruins still scoreless. The Sharks lead the Oilers to

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Speaker 9: nothing with just under nine minutes left in the first period.

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Speaker 4: Ladies, back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Martin. You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm

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Speaker 2: Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending

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Speaker 2: your Saturday afternoon with us. It is time for our

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Speaker 2: first guest. Oh, hold on, we got to take a moment.

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Speaker 2: We did not have him ready yet. Carme you with

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Speaker 2: us still I am, I'm here. Yeah, I'm excited. We

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Speaker 2: have NBA analyst Mark Medina who's going to be joining

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Speaker 2: us in just a second. He spends a lot of

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Speaker 2: time in and around this Lakers team that we were

563
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Speaker 2: just talking about, so I'm excited. I'm excited to kind

564
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Speaker 2: of get a little inside see what he has to

565
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Speaker 2: say on this whole situation.

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Speaker 3: Especially because I think we talked to him prior to

567
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Speaker 3: the season, Starday and Hopes were right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, how could they not be?

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Speaker 5: I think for everybody, I just like I said.

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Speaker 3: There's always going to be that expectation, there has to

571
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Speaker 3: be La Lakers, especially with me, like, yeah, the superstars,

572
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Speaker 3: they have, the city, they play in, the franchise they

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Speaker 3: played for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we got them. Okay, let's bring in

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Speaker 2: our first guest, NBA analyst Mark Medina. Mark, we were

576
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Speaker 2: just talking about how it's officially been a year since

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Speaker 2: the Lakers traded for Luca and things haven't been probably

578
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Speaker 2: as great as the organization and fans has have hoped.

579
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Speaker 2: What's been going on behind the scenes between Luca and Lebron?

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Speaker 5: Are they getting along? Is the chemistry there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I don't see the personality conflicts that there's definitely frustration

583
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Speaker 10: on the court. I think you know what epitomized that

584
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Speaker 10: best was the final moments against the Magic where Luka

585
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Speaker 10: Doncic just had the ball in his hand, Dumble was

586
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Speaker 10: taken an open shot, yes quite so much, lost the

587
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Speaker 10: ball and then gave Lebron on a grenade and wasn't

588
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Speaker 10: a good look, And yeah, they both stormed off the court.

589
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 10: Lebron clearly upset. You know, Luca didn't communicate, and Luca

590
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Speaker 10: conceded that the two didn't discuss the play at all afterwards,

591
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Speaker 10: And you know, Lebron was pretty honest afterwards and saying, yeah,

592
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Speaker 10: I'm not sure what he was thinking. He'd have to

593
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Speaker 10: ask him. So I think X is a nose frustration

594
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 10: with this three game losing streaks. But before that, I

595
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 10: think the chemistry has been mostly fine. But look, injuries

596
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 10: and just roster construction within consistent role players and terrible

597
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 10: defense has really done the means.

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Speaker 3: So that's my question is, you know, you have these

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Speaker 3: two superstars on the Lakers. They are these offensive, you know,

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Speaker 3: just again superstars. Where does that leave you though, with

601
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Speaker 3: your defensive resources or resources that are available for defense,

602
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Speaker 3: which has been an issue for this team going back

603
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Speaker 3: to last season. Is it just not possible to really

604
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Speaker 3: have the reinforcements you need defensively, especially when Luca is

605
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Speaker 3: not is not going to be contributing on that or

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Speaker 3: that phase.

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Speaker 4: Of the ball.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Contractually it's hard to do that because you have

609
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Speaker 10: Lebron James making a lot of money same than Luca

610
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 10: Dongrich rightfully, so they're keeping cap space open to keep

611
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Speaker 10: for Austin Reeves next season. But you know, they were

612
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Speaker 10: very deliberative offseason and missing out on targets, and then

613
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Speaker 10: they thought, hey, you know what, let's be very well,

614
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Speaker 10: let's take let's take advantage of a garage shale with game.

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Speaker 10: DeAndre aid and had a pretty good discount. But DeAndre

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Speaker 10: Ayton has shown that he can be really really good

617
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Speaker 10: and really really bad. And as all this talk about, hey,

618
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Speaker 10: he's going to sacrifice and redeem his career, he clearly

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Speaker 10: has shown that he's been frustrated. He's no longer a

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Speaker 10: vocal point of the team like he was earlier in

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Speaker 10: his career. So it goes back to roster construction more

622
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Speaker 10: than bald about Luca Lebron, but they're all tied together

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Speaker 10: and it's very clear that their pathway forward is when

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Speaker 10: Lebron leaves Lakers this summer, they'll have more cap space

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Speaker 10: to have a better roster around Luca.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so that was my next question.

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Speaker 2: You for sure know or think that this will be

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Speaker 2: Lebron's last season on the Lakers. Do you think it'll

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Speaker 2: also be his last season in the NBA.

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Speaker 10: I don't think last season the NBA and this is

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Speaker 10: a caveat that everything can change on any moment's notice.

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Speaker 10: But I think when you're reading the right on the wall,

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Speaker 10: the Lakers might say, oh yeah, they're open towards keeping

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Speaker 10: Lebron James beyond next season, but it has to come

635
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Speaker 10: in a significant discount. They're so interested in that they

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Speaker 10: would have signed into an extension last summer, but they

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Speaker 10: wanted to have flexibility here. I don't think Lebron, even

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Speaker 10: though he's willing to sacrifice on the court, wants to

639
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Speaker 10: sacrifice his earnings as one of the best players in

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Speaker 10: the NBA and just the clouds in the organization. So

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Speaker 10: with that, assuming no major injuries, I think he's coming

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Speaker 10: back next year. Bought in Cleveland so he can return

643
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 10: the familiar grounds. They would have a championship culture, a

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Speaker 10: championship run, and he can get that full farewell tour

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Speaker 10: for an entire season.

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Speaker 4: So what is it for now? Then?

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Speaker 3: What is it that the Lakers can do to I mean,

648
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Speaker 3: they're right on a three game losing skin at this point.

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Speaker 3: What is it that they need to do to kind

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Speaker 3: of write the ship and to get the most out

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Speaker 3: of this season as possible.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think in the short term, it's just having

653
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Speaker 10: better you know, chemistry offensively, because that's really going to

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Speaker 10: be the main calling cars that can help them start

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Speaker 10: winning games because I think their defense is flawed. You know,

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Speaker 10: they have a game against the Warriors tonight. There's no

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Speaker 10: Steph Curry, he's been out the last nine games of

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Speaker 10: knee injury. Chrisofs Borzingis has still been out with in illness.

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Speaker 10: But you know, we've seen that the Lakers can sometimes

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Speaker 10: play down the competition with the Suns. They didn't have

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Speaker 10: Devin Booker, they didn't have Dylan Brooks, it didn't matter.

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Speaker 10: Still a really close game. And while the Suns have

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Speaker 10: been respectable this season, the Lakers have Luca, Lebron and Austin.

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Speaker 10: They should have much more offensive firepower. And even when

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Speaker 10: you account they haven't played a lot of games together,

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Speaker 10: I think team they should be able to figure out

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Speaker 10: enough to score more points and also use that dynamic

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Speaker 10: offense to kind of reduce the amount of opportunities that

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Speaker 10: miss shots and everything else.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's look at the West, because the Thunder entered

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Speaker 2: the season as a clear favorite, and we've seen they

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Speaker 2: can win with their bench players as well, but the

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Speaker 2: Spurs are hot right on their tail.

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Speaker 5: Is it truly a two team race to win the West?

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Speaker 10: It really feels that way. I mean, the Spurs are

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Speaker 10: eleven game winning streak. You mentioned the Thunder. You know,

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Speaker 10: they've had some injuries, but they've mostly held the sport down.

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Speaker 10: The separation between those two teams is pretty gigantic. I mean,

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Speaker 10: the Thunder are seven and a half games over Houston.

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Speaker 10: The Spurs have a five and a half game edge.

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Speaker 10: I think that with the Rockets, Yeah, Kevin Durant's great,

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Speaker 10: but the chemistry with him and the young guys haven't

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Speaker 10: really been up to what they were hoping for. And

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Speaker 10: then you know these second tier teams. We're talking Nuggets, Wolves, Lakers, Suns.

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Speaker 10: They've been all up and down throughout the season. So

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Speaker 10: I think what we're seeing and now it's going to

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Speaker 10: be a collision course West Finals Thunder Spurs. It's going

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Speaker 10: to go seven games. You could really make your case

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Speaker 10: for either team. The Spurs have won the regular season

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Speaker 10: battle the Thunder and more playoffs tested that experience matter.

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Speaker 10: But the Spurs they got Victor Lempan Yama, they got

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Speaker 10: step on tackle. I got Dylan Harper. They have good

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Speaker 10: veterans in de Aaron Fox. Whatever they lack in playoff experience,

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Speaker 10: I think they still have maturity. But you know what,

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Speaker 10: seven game series helpful obviously be a factor, but all

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Speaker 10: things being mostly equal, can really flip the coin on

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Speaker 10: how that outcome will play out.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because over the last seven or eight years,

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Speaker 3: we've had different NBA champions at the end of the year,

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Speaker 3: and you feel like parody is at an all time high.

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Speaker 4: In the NBA.

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Speaker 3: But when we're talking about the true contenders right now

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Speaker 3: in the West, even in the East, for the most part,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of still the same teams that we were

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Speaker 3: talking about last year. So do you think that there

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Speaker 3: is an opportunity or do you think that we're kind

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Speaker 3: of leveling out some of that and maybe these super

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Speaker 3: teams are kind of just around the corner again.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, a little bit. I think that when you're looking

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Speaker 10: at the Thunder and Spurs, they've separated themselves because they

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Speaker 10: have good young cores. It's not like in the previous

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Speaker 10: years where you have those super teams that you mentioned

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Speaker 10: with established veteran players. But I think the Eastern Conference

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Speaker 10: you've seen new players emerge. The Detroit Pistons, they took

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Speaker 10: me out their stuff forward. The Boston Celtics, yeah, on paper,

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Speaker 10: they've been there before, but no one, and I mean

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Speaker 10: no one thought that they were going to be a

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Speaker 10: playoff team, let alone second in the East with you know,

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Speaker 10: Jason Tatum out the entire season so far because of

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Speaker 10: his achilles. So I think the East, it's felt like

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Speaker 10: it's almost like anyone shot that you can make a

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Speaker 10: case for Detroit, Boston, New York, Cleveland. But if I had,

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Speaker 10: if I had to choose, I think it would go

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Speaker 10: down to either Detroit or New York because New York has,

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Speaker 10: you know, most of the same rosters last year. Mike

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Speaker 10: Brown's the new head coach, but he's experienced, and this

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Speaker 10: Pistons team, they're an experience, but they do have a

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Speaker 10: lot of young continuity that I think that can help

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Speaker 10: them now that they are somewhat playoff tested.

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Speaker 5: We have parody in the NBA. Mark, thank you so

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Speaker 5: much for joining us.

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Speaker 10: Hey, thank you as the last talking hoopful you.

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Speaker 2: We love it all right, guys, when we come back,

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Speaker 2: the dues and the don'ts and sports you're listening to

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here

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Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitally. We're broadcasting live from Los Angeles, and

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Speaker 2: you're listening to my husband's new song, Crash at My

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Speaker 2: Place with Brett Bollander Jeff Neeson.

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Speaker 5: What do you think, Carmie?

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Speaker 4: I love I mean you, I mean you were gonna

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Speaker 4: do this. I was gonna play. I wanted to listen

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Speaker 4: to it.

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Speaker 5: I thought about him, like, when do I interrupt? Well,

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Speaker 5: got to let the people know.

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Speaker 4: This is a.

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Speaker 3: Great like spring turning into summer. Right, each type.

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Speaker 2: Of song Crash at My Place, we can share some

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Speaker 2: two paste. We love it, so there we go.

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Speaker 4: That's great. It's like it's like on Spotify I assume.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it is everywhere Apple Spotify. We love it.

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Speaker 5: All right. You know what time it is?

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Speaker 2: I think I have an idea time for the dos

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Speaker 2: and don't you guys.

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Speaker 7: I love that putting a spotlight.

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Speaker 2: On the don't the subject brings me no joy.

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Speaker 4: That's insane.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm starting with the biggest do of the

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Speaker 2: week of the month do support women's sports, and I

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Speaker 2: want to give a huge shout out to our official

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Speaker 2: Women's Olympic hypeman, Flavor Flave, who once again is just

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Speaker 2: getting our gold metal women what they deserve. If you

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Speaker 2: are unfamiliar with the history of Flavor Flave and women's sports,

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Speaker 2: he personally sponsored the women water polo team loss Olympics,

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Speaker 2: and after our US women's gold medal hockey team didn't

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Speaker 2: get the treatment that they deserved after winning gold.

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Speaker 5: Once again, he spoke up, and he stepped up.

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Speaker 2: He is now hosting She's Got Game Weekend in Vegas

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Speaker 2: July sixteenth through the nineteenth with MGM Resorts and Theist

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Speaker 2: and the Gist he got the entire weekends sponsored and

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Speaker 2: covered from flights to food, to hotels, entertainment, and yesterday

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Speaker 2: he shared, I'm so impressed and blessed for the brands

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Speaker 2: reaching out to support.

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Speaker 5: Thousands and more.

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Speaker 2: Companies have offered to donate, but if you're a billion

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Speaker 2: dollar company, we don't want product donations. We want you

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Speaker 2: to sponsor these women athletes. And he set up a

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Speaker 2: GoFundMe for these women.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: He so this Winter Olympics too. He was also the

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Speaker 3: sponsor of the bob sled and the skeleton teams, because like,

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Speaker 3: this is just apparently what play with Late wanted to do.

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, when the US women's hockey team.

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Speaker 5: Was laptop, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Took it upon himself. We'd love it. A really fun

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Speaker 3: short little fact. We did superlatives in high school.

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Speaker 4: I was on this. I was on the.

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Speaker 3: Newspaper, okay, and it was it was. It was as

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Speaker 3: a joke at the time, but now I take a

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Speaker 3: lot of pride in it. My senior superlative of high

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Speaker 3: school was most likely to be on Flavor of Love.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, now, I'm like, absolutely I would

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Speaker 3: have loved to have been with Flavor Flavor.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what's crazy is when I was I

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Speaker 2: think I was still in college. I was the I

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Speaker 2: was working as a PA on the Comedy Central roast

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Speaker 2: of Flavor Flav And just to see his full transition

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Speaker 2: of like where he was then and where he is now,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I would have believed.

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Speaker 3: You, you know, I know, no seriously back in but

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Speaker 3: like speakle can surprise you.

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Speaker 4: And I love that. I love that I've got a

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Speaker 4: quick one. It's to pay homage to your favorites.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I told you I was going to talk

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Speaker 3: about Sonny Styles, linebacker one, probably a top five pick

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Speaker 3: in this year's draft, inside linebacker. His real name is Alex,

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Speaker 3: but his mom revealed on NFL Network during the combine coverage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he goes by Sonny Styles.

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Speaker 3: And they nicknamed him Sonny because he was such a

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Speaker 3: fiery kid that they named him after Sonny from The Godfather.

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Speaker 3: What and now it just stopped And so he goes

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Speaker 3: by Sonny Styles. His name is actually Alex, but everybody

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Speaker 3: knows him as Sonny Styles. And I'm like, hey, this

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Speaker 3: like could not have worked out better. He's now a

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Speaker 3: top draft pick, like it will be a top draft pick,

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Speaker 3: like a top top draft prospect in this process. And

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Speaker 3: Sonny Styles just like rolls off the tongue.

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Speaker 5: He's also going there. It's a stage name that sounds

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Speaker 5: like a.

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Speaker 3: Stage name, and like he's got a brother too. That's

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Speaker 3: also that just ran the fastest forty of the entire

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Speaker 3: NFL combine. So like, whatever Mama Styles has been feeding.

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Speaker 5: These boys, she's got stab maybe.

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Speaker 3: And like it was like the most unsurprising thing ever

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Speaker 3: that it came that that this nickname came from the Godfather.

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is fantastic, this, this seems like

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Speaker 3: a great family.

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Speaker 5: I love that so much.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do find your joy is my next one, and

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Speaker 2: this comes after Alyssa lou Our gold medal ice skater

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Speaker 2: has inspired athletes like across the sports world to tune

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Speaker 2: out the noise and find their joy. She stepped away

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Speaker 2: from competition at sixteen to pretent her mental health and

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Speaker 2: returned to the sport on her own terms. Skated with

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Speaker 2: that confidence and joy and not what you normally see

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Speaker 2: from figure.

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Speaker 5: Skaters, which I was just obsessed with.

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Speaker 2: She became the first American woman in decades a decade

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Speaker 2: to stand up on the top of that podium. And

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Speaker 2: we've heard mlstar Paul Rothheart share that he was listening

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Speaker 2: to that Dum Donna summer song that Alyssa was skating

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Speaker 2: to in her gold medal performance and her attitude inspired him.

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Speaker 2: Before his match, Former quarterback Max Brown reflected on her

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Speaker 2: comeback story that stepping away to take care of your

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Speaker 2: mentals can actually make you better. And now she just

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Speaker 2: got a mural of her gold medal moment across a

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Speaker 2: beautiful wall in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: She's having so much fun. She skates Sophree. It's such

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Speaker 3: a good story, wonderful story. And yeah, I think it

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Speaker 3: was twenty years the last time a woman won one

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Speaker 3: gold in the in her event and American woman one

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Speaker 3: gold and that's amazing. Another person that has so much

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Speaker 3: fun at what he does, real quick. Bernano Mendoza is

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Speaker 3: also a combine story beat Cassie Morrelson from Fox thirty

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Speaker 3: two here in Chicago. She was at sat Almos, the

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Speaker 3: infamous steahouse in Indianapolis. The whole restaurant burst into applause.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and what happened. It was Bernano Mendoza walking through

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Speaker 4: the restaurant.

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis Hero, Indiana Hero, and everybody.

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Speaker 4: Was showing their appreciation for a guy just having some fun.

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Speaker 5: I'm so happy for my love hearing that. All Right, guys,

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Speaker 5: will we come back? Who needs to nail this NFL

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Speaker 5: off season?

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here

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Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon

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Speaker 2: with us.

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Speaker 5: Is a beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon here in Los Angeles. It was almost ninety

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Speaker 2: degrees when I was driving in Karmie. Are you getting

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Speaker 2: the close hot Are you getting the East Coast blizzard?

876
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: Oh no, No, that that didn't hit us.

877
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 3: It was sixty degrees here yesterday, and that's a big deal.

878
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: It was a huge deal. We went out in a sweatshirt,

879
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 3: took the dog for a walk. Everybody was out, people

880
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: were on patios.

881
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 4: I kid you not.

882
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: I went for a walk this morning, our like family

883
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: dog walk on the strand, and the beach was packed

884
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 2: at nine am. Like everyone out playing volleyball, walking, biking, running.

885
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 5: I just I am obsessed with where I live.

886
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: It's also my hometown, so I'm like, you know, yeah,

887
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm a hot girley, not a not a cold time girley.

888
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 4: I'm not. I don't like heat.

889
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah I don't like he but that's probably a product

890
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: of where I grew up, which is here in Chicago.

891
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 4: I like seasons, seasons.

892
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 5: We are where we are meant to be.

893
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: And you guys, we have a full slate of spring

894
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 2: training games that are happening right now. It's so beautiful.

895
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: We're a week away from the World Baseball Classic. I

896
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: don't know if you remember last World Baseball Classic WBC

897
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: where Otani and Team Japan took gold in that cinema

898
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: moment where he was facing my Trout in the ninth

899
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 2: like Otani closing for the first time ever, and whoever

900
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: won that moment was going to win gold and it

901
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: was just I mean, it was cinema. Otani ended up

902
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: obviously winning that matchup and took Golden was almost like

903
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: a passing of the torch between Trout to now the

904
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: new face of the league and show, Hey Otani and

905
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 2: I just can't not wait for that to start next week. Now,

906
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: last hour we hit the combine. Karmie just got back, Yester,

907
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: what yesterday we talked all about kind of just like

908
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: the purpose of it and the what would you call it?

909
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: The the not front facing purpose of it.

910
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: I would say something the underlying like because the real

911
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: story behind the NFL combine and yeah, what you're really

912
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: there for?

913
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: Which I love. Tough last few games for the Lakers.

914
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: Will this be Lebron's last season? I definitely think in LA,

915
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 2: but will it be in the NBA. If you miss

916
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: any of that, you can just catch it catch it

917
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: on the podcast.

918
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 4: You could also catch it on the iHeart Appause.

919
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: With the iHeart App, you can stream us wherever you are.

920
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 3: Catch us and all of our Fox Sports Radio shows

921
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: live twenty four Steven and the new and improved iHeart

922
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: app just searched Fox Sports Radio in the app. Stream

923
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 3: us live all day, every day, and be sure to

924
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: select Fox Sports Radio as one of your presets in

925
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 3: the iHeart app so that it always pops up at.

926
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: The top of your screen. Again, just search Fox Sports

927
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,479
Speaker 4: Radio in the iHeart app.

928
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: All right, We're going to get back to some football

929
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: because it's crazy, like even though the season just ended

930
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago in San Francisco.

931
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 5: Now we're yeah Sawks.

932
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: I mean we're already like you got maybe a week

933
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 2: two week break and then the Combine happens and now

934
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: everybody's looking towards the draft and the future of the NFL.

935
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: So what we're going to talk about is who needs

936
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: to nail this offseason. We're each going to give a

937
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: couple different teams and it can be for different reasons. Right,

938
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 2: I have two completely different teams with two completely different reasons.

939
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 5: So I'm going to start first with the Vegas Raiders.

940
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: They thought they had everything figured out last year, and

941
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: ended up being a disaster. They went three to fourteen.

942
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: Fired head coach Pete Carroll after that one season, and

943
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: now they have the opportunity to really turn things around.

944
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: They have ten draft picks, including the number one overall pick,

945
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: and if everything goes the way we think it's going

946
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: to go, Fernando Mendoza will go number one to the Raiders,

947
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: which solves their quarterback situation.

948
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 5: But they have a lot that they need to improve on.

949
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: Most importantly that O line to protect their quarterback because

950
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: they had one of the worst O lines last year.

951
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 2: I think they need a top wide receiver. But they

952
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: do have things working in their favor right. They're not

953
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: starting from scratch ish. I mean, they have their new

954
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: head coach in Clint Kubiak, who was the Seahawks offensive coordinator,

955
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: just won a Super Bowl. You have Tom Brady in

956
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 2: their ownership group.

957
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 5: You have some solid pieces.

958
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 2: You have Max Crosby, one of the best pass rushers,

959
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: Ashon Genti, the solid like that was like their big

960
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: kind of get last draft. He had a you know,

961
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: an okay rookie season. There's so much room for improvement.

962
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: When he went nine hundred and seventy five rushing yards.

963
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: Their tight end duo is strong, and Brock Bauers and

964
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: Michael Mayer like, I think there are pieces there that

965
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: if they do the right things, I think they can

966
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: find success with Fernando Mendoza. I mean, we talked about

967
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: this off the top of the hour. I think a

968
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: lot's going to depend on how they build around him

969
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: and how they protect him for Fernando to have that

970
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: kind of success. And I mean, if they take them,

971
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: they're going to put him out there right away.

972
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 4: They got no choice. They have.

973
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: You take a guy at one overall that that's the

974
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: most you could possibly invest in someone. So you're gonna

975
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 3: have to throw him out there.

976
00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 5: Let me show you.

977
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 3: Whether whether the team is ready or not, whether the

978
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: environment is good or not. Yea, he's gonna be pegged

979
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: as the savior of this of this Vegas franchise right now.

980
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: Which fair or unfair is the reality of what happens

981
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: in this league where the teams that do the worst

982
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: are the ones picking the highest and in that kind

983
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: of draft process, that's so often what happens. Although we

984
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 3: have now a plethora of evidence to say that we

985
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 3: give up on quarterbacks too easily, or we don't give

986
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: them the tools to succeed right away. We expect a

987
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: little too much of them too quickly, especially when you're

988
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 3: talking about these teams that are picking first in the

989
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 3: draft and the reasons behind it. They weren't a good team,

990
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: that's not why they're picking first in the draft. So

991
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 3: I do think that you know, I know they're GM

992
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: very well John Spytech from my time in Tampa with him,

993
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: and I know that he understands the importance of the

994
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 3: offensive line, not only to protect Fernanda Mendoza theoretically him

995
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: being your your number one overall pick there, but to

996
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 3: all get the run game going and to get the

997
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: most out of Ashton Genty, who was the best young

998
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: running back coming out last year. You were able to

999
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: snag him with the top ten pick. And not to

1000
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: mention the versatility that a guy like brock Bauers brings

1001
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 3: to your offense. Brock Bauers is has the potential to

1002
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 3: be the best tight end in the league. And because

1003
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: he's not just a tight end, he can be a

1004
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 3: slot receiver. He can line up all over the offensive formation.

1005
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 5: Which is kind of like the future of the tight ends.

1006
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 5: As we're seeing, we.

1007
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: Are asking more out of tight ends than we ever have.

1008
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: And I can go at length about tight ends and

1009
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: how undervalued they truly are. But Brock Bauers is a

1010
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 3: special player. Ashton Genty is a special player. You add

1011
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: form Nanda Mendoza and you give him a line that

1012
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 3: can really and then you give him a coach too,

1013
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 3: which is really important in clin Koopiak that can tailor

1014
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 3: an offense to the strength that it has. I think

1015
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: that this is a good marriage of all of those things.

1016
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: I should it happen in Vegas. I don't know that

1017
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: it's an instantaneous turnaround, especially given the division that they

1018
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 3: play in, but as long as you can see that

1019
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: they're on the right track, and you don't get a

1020
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 3: little sweet baby Fernando killed.

1021
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 5: No So I have a question here, so and just

1022
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 5: like just hear me out.

1023
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: I know you've worked with him, and we recently talked

1024
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: to him a couple of weeks ago. But Kirk Cousins

1025
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: is going to be released by Atlanta in a couple

1026
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 2: of weeks, right, He could be a great veteran and

1027
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: kind of mentor to Fernando Mendoza, maybe even starter game

1028
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: or two. So you're not throwing Fernando right into the fire.

1029
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

1030
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 4: If there's the.

1031
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: Thing I know about Kirk Cousins, and I don't fault

1032
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 3: him for it at all, because you play for a

1033
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 3: very finite amount of time, Kirk Cousins is going to

1034
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 3: get his money. And that is something he has done

1035
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: throughout his entire career. He is one of the highest

1036
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: like career when you talk about contract earnings. I know

1037
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 3: his agent very well, Mike McCartney. He gets him these incredible.

1038
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 5: Deals, insane. He's the Kirk Cousins.

1039
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: Is the one that set the precedent for guaranteed money,

1040
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 3: not only for quarterbacks but really like really up to

1041
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 3: the guaranteed money and the guaranteed money conversation in the NFL.

1042
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 3: So he is going to He absolutely is good enough

1043
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: to start somewhere. So do you have the resources if

1044
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: you're Vegas to pay him as a high end backup

1045
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 3: or a bridge that like You're not theoretically to me,

1046
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I don't know. Stranger things have happened,

1047
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: But to me, he is going to be too expensive

1048
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: to be to play that bridge role that you would

1049
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 3: like him to, especially if you again are investing. I

1050
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: know it's not technically money, yeah, but when you invest

1051
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 3: the first overall pick in someone, that is a huge

1052
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 3: amount of capital.

1053
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 4: And that is.

1054
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: Partially why we are where we are with quarterbacks, is

1055
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 3: because that, to an organization is a lot of capital,

1056
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: and if you're going to invest that in somebody, then

1057
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: you expect production out of that position and out of

1058
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: that player.

1059
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 4: So in a perfect idyllic you see in.

1060
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 5: The world, you see that being a good fit for Fernando.

1061
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 3: I see that for any quarterback entering the league. I

1062
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 3: would love for them to have a situation like the

1063
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 3: Vikings tried to set up for JJ McCarthy, which is

1064
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: bring in a bridge quarterback and Sam Darnold. Then you

1065
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 3: don't have to play JJ McCarthy right away. He can

1066
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: kind of ease into the league. Now, obviously that didn't

1067
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 3: work out, and honestly, that's one of the things that's

1068
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 3: going to prevent these teams. You know, they can point

1069
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 3: to that and say, well, that didn't work out for them.

1070
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: They planned it out perfectly, Look what happened. So you

1071
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: can't necessarily plan that way. As much as I would

1072
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 3: love for it to happen, for as much evidence as

1073
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 3: we have of guys that are allowed to sit for

1074
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: at least a half a season. Look at what Drake

1075
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 3: may even in New England, he got thrown out their

1076
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 3: mid season. I thought he was going to get himself killed,

1077
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 3: but hey, or I thought the team was going to

1078
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: get him killed. Yeah, but it ended up working out,

1079
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: but he was still allowed to sit on the bench

1080
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 3: for the first few weeks of the season. Kind of

1081
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 3: get his bearings. It's so helpful.

1082
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 4: It's just teams can't usually.

1083
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: Afford that kind of patience, whether it be from ownership pressure,

1084
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: this that the other. So would it work, Yeah, I

1085
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 3: probably would. Is it realistic? I don't think so. So

1086
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 3: it's going to be very the vague Like the Raiders. Obviously,

1087
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 3: whenever you have the first overall pick, you have a

1088
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: size on you, and especially when you have high profile

1089
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 3: owners and you just made all of these moves and

1090
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Speaker 3: now you have a super Bowl winning coach that is

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00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: now a head coach for the first time that you're

1092
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: going to see how that goes. That's not always the

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00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 3: easiest transition either, So it's going to be very interesting.

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00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 4: My one team I wanted to talk about real quick, yeah,

1095
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 4: was the is the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think because they have fallen the window

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00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 3: with Joe Burrow and Jamar Chayes and t Higgins.

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00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 4: It's there, but it's not going to be there forever.

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Speaker 3: And if you keep kind of suffering these really like

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00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 3: these letdowns of seasons, it's you're not gonna be able

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00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: to keep that core together and you're not getting what

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00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: you need to out of them, and you're not taking

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00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 3: advantage of that. And now, Zach Taylor, I think, was

1104
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 3: you know a little bit on the hot seat, like

1105
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: from last season and how disappointing it ended and you

1106
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 3: missed the playoffs and this, that and the other. I

1107
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: have to think that this year that seed is burning

1108
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 3: like it has to be. And the Bengals they're losing

1109
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson to free agency or he's going to test

1110
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 3: free agency. So on the defensive side, the defense has

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00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 3: been their Achilles heel. It has not been able to

1112
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 3: when you have an offense that is as good as

1113
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 3: the Bengals can be when all those guys are healthy,

1114
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: you have a defense that's surrendering like one more point

1115
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 3: than what they're scoring, which is like still in the thirties.

1116
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 3: And if you're scoring thirty points a game, you should

1117
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 3: be able to win the majority of your games. That

1118
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: hasn't been the case with the Cincinnati Bengals, so you

1119
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: have a lot of work to do on that defense.

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Speaker 3: This is a very good defensive draft, as I talked

1121
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: about before, when you're talking about defensive tackles, defensive in

1122
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 3: edge rushers. So if you're looking to replace Trey Hendrickson

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00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 3: and you're trying to find life after Trey Hendrickson, which

1124
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: is what the Bengals are going to try to do,

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00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 3: this is a good draft to try to do it with.

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00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 3: So I think it's just you have to put all

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00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 3: of the cards in, all the chips in to the

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00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: middle of the table.

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Speaker 4: You have to get something going.

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Speaker 3: You have to be productive this year in Cincinnati, otherwise

1131
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 3: is going to be out of a job. There are

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00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: gm personnel structures a little different. Owners have a lot

1133
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: to say in that, so that might not change. And

1134
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: that's kind of the common denominator with the Cincinnati Bengals.

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00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: But and that and the lack of resources that the

1136
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: team itself has and the money that they spend on

1137
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: those resources. The NFLPA report cards were leaked even though

1138
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: they weren't publicly put out, they were still leaked, and

1139
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: the Bengals Spress surprise, did not score very well. The

1140
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: leak well they no, they were public. They were public

1141
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 3: up until this year. And then this year the NFL

1142
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: owners got together and essentially banned them from being released

1143
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 3: by the teams, that by the NFLPA itself. But what

1144
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: has happened is reporters have now found the ways to

1145
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: leak the report card. Kaylin Caller from ESPN was the

1146
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 3: one to leak at the Combine while we were all

1147
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 3: at the Combine, and she leaked the NFLPA report cards,

1148
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: so we still.

1149
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 4: Got our hands on them anyway.

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00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 3: Journalism, Capital j journalism, guys, that's how you get in

1151
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 3: of it.

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00:53:59,280 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 4: So yazy.

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00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 2: Because Joe Burrow has been playing great football the last

1154
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: couple of seasons when he's healthy and he's healthy, that's

1155
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: the six games last year.

1156
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well Joe Burrow wasn't healthy the entire year. So

1157
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 3: that's that's you need Joe to stay healthy. And there's

1158
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 3: a conversation to be had there about his you know,

1159
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 3: as much as I don't like to talk about legacy

1160
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: and this that the other, he needs to stay healthy.

1161
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: One of these years. Yeah, and they got the deal

1162
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 3: done to bring Tea Higgins back, and so they have Jamar,

1163
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 3: they have Tea, they have everything that Joe Burrow can want.

1164
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 4: They do. They are going to have to repair the

1165
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 4: interior of the.

1166
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: Offensive line because they're losing their center and I believe

1167
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 3: their right guard. They have a lot of work to

1168
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: do this off season. And the pressure is still going

1169
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 3: to be there on Zach Taylor on the franchise, especially

1170
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 3: because the AFC North is also in a lot of

1171
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: flux right now, and so you have an opportunity here

1172
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 3: to kind of rise to that. You have you know,

1173
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 3: you have guys that Pittsburgh who has a new head coach,

1174
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 3: although it's Michael Harvey and.

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00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 5: Like is but there's coming back. We're still on that

1176
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 5: kind of don't know.

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00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 3: Baltimore has a new head coach with Jesse Mentor, who's

1178
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 3: familiar with Baltimore organization, but he's still the first time,

1179
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 3: you know, head coach.

1180
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 2: And Lamar Jackson hasn't fully lived up like since his

1181
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: last MVP season, Like the.

1182
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 4: Browns are still Frowns.

1183
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 3: So you have that, I don't know what's gonna happen

1184
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 3: in those new head coach. I love Todd Monkin, I

1185
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 3: love him to death. I worked with him in Tampa two.

1186
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 3: But that quarterback situation and those quarterback contracts are just

1187
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 3: not something that you're going to realistic. The self wonder

1188
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 3: North is up for grabs, it is, and so like,

1189
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 3: why can't it be the Bengals this year?

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00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 4: Why they were?

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00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 5: It was them and the Ravens back and forth, like

1192
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 5: who's going to get it?

1193
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: But you can't have the crazy bad start of the

1194
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 2: season that they've notoriously had. Unto Joe Burrow, he has

1195
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: to stay healthy and you can't like defense can't be

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00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: losing games for them. They're putting up the numbers.

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00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 3: That's that's that's the most frustrating thing. And and why

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Speaker 3: I've been so bully about the Cincinnati Bengals is because

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Speaker 3: you have the offensive firepower, you have the quarterback, and

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Speaker 3: that's supposed to be a recipe. When you're scoring forty

1201
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: plus points a game, you're supposed to win those games,

1202
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 3: at least in the regular season. You're supposed to win

1203
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 3: those games, and you're supposed to get to the dance.

1204
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 3: And the Bengals haven't been able to do it because

1205
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 3: their defense has been not just bad, not just awful

1206
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 3: like historically bad. I just need that defense to be average.

1207
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 3: You just need that defense to be average. And you're

1208
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: looking at a playoff team in Cincinnati.

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00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 4: So this off.

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00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 3: Season is it between free agency and the draft itself

1211
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 3: is so incredibly important for Zach Taylor's job, for the

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00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 3: ability to hold on to Joe Burrow and keep him

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00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 3: and Jamar Chase.

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00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 5: And how long did is his contract?

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00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 3: So his contract, I think there's an out after next year,

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00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 3: maybe the year after, but I think it's one of

1217
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 3: those things where it's does he start to put up?

1218
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 4: Does he start to put up?

1219
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 3: You know, kind of a fuss about wanting to get out,

1220
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,959
Speaker 3: and like players have more power than they've ever had.

1221
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I think they could still do with some more,

1222
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 3: but yeah.

1223
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 4: Oh no, there's a potential out.

1224
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 3: There isn't a potential out until contract wise, until after

1225
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 3: next season. But that being said, stranger things have happened,

1226
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: and if you have a quarterback that's trying to force

1227
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 3: his way out, that's another story. So I really do

1228
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 3: I I am. I want it so badly because I

1229
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: love Joe Burrow and him being with his college teammate

1230
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 3: with Jamar Chase and and t Higgins like you just

1231
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: have those working.

1232
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 4: It should be working.

1233
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 5: It should be working.

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00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 4: That's what that's all.

1235
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 5: So, Yeah, they need to.

1236
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 4: Nail it will be rolling if it's not.

1237
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 3: If it doesn't work this year, and and the Cincinnati

1238
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: Bengals will not be anything recognizable after this year if

1239
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 3: this year doesn't go well.

1240
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: No, I agree. All right, We're gonna take a quick

1241
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,439
Speaker 2: break here when we come back. Can the Dodgers three Pete.

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00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back to Fox

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00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. Am Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitale. We're

1244
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 2: all over the place today, are in Vegas.

1245
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 4: Cool.

1246
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 5: I just loved it.

1247
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,439
Speaker 2: Chris, our technical producer, was like, is this the song

1248
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: or are we still in commercial break right now?

1249
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 5: And he's like, yeah, go baby, go yeah, thumbs up,

1250
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 5: thumbs up to this.

1251
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 4: Listen. I'm all about it.

1252
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 3: Like I, like you said, it's like ninety degrees and

1253
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 3: though it's like pool party weather and I hope you've.

1254
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 11: Both seen that old video of the dad and father

1255
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 11: who were like when mom's not home and they've got

1256
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 11: the trumpet and the uh oh yeah, the oven. I

1257
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 11: saw a video of that where basically it's now been

1258
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 11: like fifteen years since that video or however long it's been.

1259
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 11: They did another one with like you know, the son

1260
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 11: all grown up and the father recreating it.

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00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 5: They've been doing a lot of that.

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00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 2: I've seen a couple of commercials that are now like revisiting.

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00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 2: They're like the one that haunts my dreams, Like I

1264
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: have to mute the TV anytime Cars for Kids comes

1265
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: on because.

1266
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 5: It ith god, I can't.

1267
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: But they just did a commercial with where they are

1268
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: now no looking back at them. I was like, are

1269
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 2: you it's really sad? They're all like sad office jobs.

1270
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 3: That's really okay. I really don't need to.

1271
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 5: That commercial literally haunts my dreams. If they deserve sad

1272
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 5: office jobs after what they probably have.

1273
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: To turn down the volume. I have to turn off

1274
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,479
Speaker 2: the TV. It's known in my house.

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00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: I'm like no, honestly, more than anything, I remember hearing

1276
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 3: it on the radio too, and like you just have

1277
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 3: no idea it's coming. It's like you don't, it don't

1278
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 3: even like flash on the screen that split second before

1279
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,479
Speaker 3: it starts going.

1280
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 4: It was like you know, then it's in your head

1281
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 4: for a week. It's so Funny.

1282
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 11: When I was growing up in Toledo, Ohio, I wasn't

1283
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 11: exposed to cars for kids too much. There was like

1284
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 11: a used car dealer jingle that was stuck in my

1285
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 11: head for Dave White Chevrolet, and that that is still

1286
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 11: bouncing around my head.

1287
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 5: But cars for kids is like, really I have, like.

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00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: I have the local ones that definitely like just have

1289
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 3: our playing on a loop in the back of my brain.

1290
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 4: I just have to like tune them out.

1291
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 3: But cars for Kids was absolutely on in the Chicagoland area.

1292
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 5: No growing up wild.

1293
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's get to some spring training baseball here

1294
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: real quick is happening. And since baseball is back, let's

1295
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: talk about the champs, because all aboard the Dodgers hype train,

1296
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 2: I'm driving us to spring training to witness the start

1297
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: of this three peat.

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01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 5: Are you laughing?

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01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1300
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 5: Are you laughing?

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01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: We're in the midst you guys of a Dodgers' dynasty.

1302
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: And if you're a hater, look in the mirror and

1303
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 2: get mad at your own team and your own owner,

1304
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 2: because everybody can be doing what they're doing and they're not.

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01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: This is the first time a team has won back

1306
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: to back since the Yankees three p. Ninety eight to

1307
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: two thousand and the crazy part when you think about it,

1308
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: they were not the better team last year, but championship

1309
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: teams know how to win even when you're not the best.

1310
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: They took advantage of opportunities and.

1311
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 5: They just got better. What did they need a closer?

1312
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: They went out and got the best closer on the market,

1313
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz, which I can't wait to hear that song

1314
01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: slap in Dodger Stadium. Car me, Oh, they're playing your

1315
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 2: clubs right now. No white Sox are white.

1316
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 4: I'm white fox. I am white sock.

1317
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 3: I don't hate the Cubs though, I am the rare

1318
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 3: Chicago and that is like, hey, listen, if you're gonna

1319
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 3: bring a championship to my city, I'm not gonna be mad.

1320
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I love the Angels and Dodgers. People hate

1321
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: me for that, but like they've both been a huge

1322
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: part of my life. I was born and raised Dodger fan,

1323
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 2: and then the Angels gave me my first job out

1324
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: of college for ten years, so I have love and

1325
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: respect for both of them.

1326
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 3: I grew up like directly west of the city, so

1327
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 3: like I grew up around both.

1328
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 5: What territory are at.

1329
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 3: Like, it's the western suburbs, so it's like directly west,

1330
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 3: and like, so north is Cubs, south side is Socks.

1331
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 4: Okay, so it's like but I was, I was West.

1332
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 3: I love that it comes out. It comes out every

1333
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 3: every now and again, the Chicago comes out. So I

1334
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 3: grew up directly west, so I'm like, literally, if you

1335
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 3: took the border or like the dividing line in the

1336
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 3: city or like the quote unquote dividing line in the city,

1337
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 3: and you just went directly west, you'd hit my town.

1338
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, I can choose for myself.

1339
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 3: And growing up, the Cubs were on WGN, so they

1340
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 3: had kind of a national fan case. There were people,

1341
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 3: you know, all over the Dincher that were fans of

1342
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 3: the Cubs, and I was like, well, only people in

1343
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 3: Chicago are fans of the Socks. So I decided I

1344
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 3: was going to be a Socks fan. And then a

1345
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,479
Speaker 3: few years later was two thousand and five and they

1346
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 3: won the World Series, so I was like, great, okay, thanks,

1347
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 3: thanks guys, appreciate it, and I'm a Sox fan.

1348
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:22,479
Speaker 4: And then they.

1349
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: Actually they did give me an internship as well, so

1350
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 3: I worked for them for a little bit. Connect But

1351
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 3: like I was there for the twenty sixteen parade from

1352
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 3: the Cubs and like, you know, hanging out my friend's

1353
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 3: second floor window right off Addison and like, you know,

1354
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: seeing the trophy go.

1355
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, Cubs are cushing the Dodgers right now. It's

1356
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: free training, doesn't matter, but it's so fun.

1357
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 3: It is, And the Cubs are the only viable team

1358
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 3: right now. Like the Socks have been so bad, yeah,

1359
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 3: for so long at this point, and they're not willing

1360
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: to spend money and they're not well, Like the Cubs

1361
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: weren't even really willing to spend money either until like

1362
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 3: this off season, when I think their ownership group realized

1363
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 3: you could defer money.

1364
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 5: Yes, that's what I'm saying. What the Dodgers doing are

1365
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 5: not illegal, everybody and do it right now.

1366
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 3: But I've got thoughts, thoughts because it's not illegal, and

1367
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 3: I've been saying that too. I'm like, hey, listen, if

1368
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 3: you want to go and get it. But the Dodgers are.

1369
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 4: Somewhat unique in the sense of who they're owned by.

1370
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 3: They're owned by a gigantic like ownership investment group, which

1371
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 3: is made up of multiple billionaires yes, and that's not

1372
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 3: the case for a lot of these teams. And I'm

1373
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 3: not here to defend billionaires whatsoever or like multi multi multimillionaires,

1374
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 3: but they are in a position where they can treat

1375
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 3: the luxury tax as just that a luxury tax, like

1376
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 3: they can just throw many the other teams, especially in

1377
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 3: the smaller markets, who don't get you know, they just

1378
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 3: they don't have the revenue streams, and they also don't

1379
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 3: have an ownership group that is worth billions and billions

1380
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 3: of dollars. They can't necessarily do that. And what's interesting

1381
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 3: to me though, is how much this has pitted the

1382
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 3: owners against each other. And this is the owners against

1383
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 3: the Dodgers, so much so that everyone is now expecting

1384
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 3: a lockout in twenty twenty seven because essentially the.

1385
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: Way the Dodgers the Dodgers, they're going to take the

1386
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 2: fall well even though they're helping players because they're paying

1387
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 2: players more.

1388
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 5: The Dodgers are a player friendly team.

1389
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 3: Which I am all for it, and like the players

1390
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 3: are obviously gonna be very upset about because they don't

1391
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 3: want they don't want to cap because they don't want

1392
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 3: there to be a limit on how much they can

1393
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 3: get paid. But it's really funny that the Dodgers' ownership

1394
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 3: group not only is operating in a way that like

1395
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 3: money doesn't matter, but they're not abiding by like the

1396
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 3: unspoken rules of sports ownership, which I think is a

1397
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 3: good thing at the end of the day, because again,

1398
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 3: I want players to get paid, I want them to

1399
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 3: have resources. I want fans to have the best possible

1400
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,439
Speaker 3: product on the field as.

1401
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 4: They possibly can.

1402
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 3: But the reality of the situation, like it's like that

1403
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: in a vacuum. Is all great, but the reality of

1404
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 3: the situation is that the rest of the owners are

1405
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 3: really fed up because they don't want to spend that

1406
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 3: kind of money and they're going to make us all

1407
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 3: suffer for it in the form of a lockout. So

1408
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 3: that's that's the that's yeah, that's.

1409
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 4: The brutal reality of all of this.

1410
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 3: Like, yes, could everybody like the Dodgers are just like

1411
01:04:55,640 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 3: completely bucking every sort of rule trend what ever.

1412
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 4: They're shaking it up. But like, is this gonna stick

1413
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 4: or are.

1414
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 3: They gonna be kind of like, you know, we're at

1415
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 3: the collective, we're gonna be heading for a lockout and

1416
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 3: how long is that going to go on?

1417
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 4: How is that going to be resolved? I don't know.

1418
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 3: I mean, they haven't had to forfeit a season since

1419
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 3: what ninety four, ninety five? Yeah, it's because the twenty one,

1420
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, like they delayed.

1421
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it was like in March is when the

1422
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 4: season Actually.

1423
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't.

1424
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't a long day, but there was a delay.

1425
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 4: All right. Now, Yeah, the CBA is, Yeah.

1426
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 2: It's coming. It's a coming after this season. All right,

1427
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: let's check in with Martin Wise and see what's trending.

1428
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 4: Five seconds left.

1429
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Speaker 9: In the third quarter, Miami Heat with an eighty five

1430
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 9: to eighty three lead over the Rocket Span met at

1431
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 9: Bio with a twenty two point ten rebound double double

1432
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 9: Kevin Durant with twenty four points and eight assists. Earlier today,

1433
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 9: we saw Charlotte b Portland one O nine and ninety

1434
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 9: three Brandon Miller twenty six and eight as the Hornet's

1435
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 9: won there eighth straight. And men's college basketball right now,

1436
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 9: the fourth ranked team in the nation trailing sixteenth ranked

1437
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 9: Texas Tech fifty five to forty the Iowa State Cyclones

1438
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 9: with about fourteen in his left in the second half

1439
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 9: with about twelve min is left in the second half,

1440
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 9: Second ranked Arizona has a ninety I'm sorry, forty nine

1441
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 9: to fifty.

1442
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 5: All right, let's do that again, forty nine.

1443
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 9: To forty five. This is Lexia with these too many numbers. Man,

1444
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 9: it kicks my ass. But Kansas right now is on

1445
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 9: a ten to two run. They've cut the lead down

1446
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 9: to four for Arizona with about thirteen minutes left in

1447
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 9: the second half. Earlier, we saw number one Ranke to

1448
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 9: junior number one Rate Duke beat Eleventhriink Virginia seventy seven

1449
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 9: to fifty one. Cameron Boozer had eighteen points and nine rebounds,

1450
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 9: Duke clinching a part of the a SEC title With

1451
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 9: the win. Houston snapped a three game losing streak as

1452
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 9: the fifth rank Cougars beat Colorado by forty one oh

1453
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 9: two to sixty two six to RNGTH. You kind of

1454
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 9: came back from a eight point second half depicit to

1455
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 9: beat Seaton Hall seventy one to sixty seven. Both Louisville

1456
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 9: and Vanderbilt out upset, Louisville by Clemson eighty to seventy

1457
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 9: five and Vanderbilt by Kentucky ninety one. Two seventy seven, ladies,

1458
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 9: back to you.

1459
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 5: Thank you, Martin. You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday.

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01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 2: I'm Alex Curry here with Carmen Fatali and it is

1461
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 2: time for our next guess. The host of the Athletic

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01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 2: Football Show a bestie of our show, Dave Helmett, thanks

1463
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 2: for joining us.

1464
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 8: Happy to be here.

1465
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 11: Guys.

1466
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 8: What's going on?

1467
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 2: So you just spent a week at the Combine, Carmee

1468
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: and I spent the top of our show just kind

1469
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 2: of talking about like what happens behind the scenes at

1470
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 2: the combine. What is your favorite part of the week

1471
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 2: and did you get any inside scoop that you can share?

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01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 8: Oh man, my favorite My favorite part of the week

1473
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 8: is probably just catching up with people that it's like

1474
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 8: a reunion. You know, there's a whole past of people

1475
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 8: that maybe you if you dmm on Twitter or you

1476
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 8: text them throughout the year, but you don't really get

1477
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 8: a lot of FaceTime with these people that are all

1478
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,479
Speaker 8: over the country. Some of that is maybe a member,

1479
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 8: some of it's coaches, execs, whoever, and like once a year,

1480
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 8: it's just like all right, I'll see you at the

1481
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 8: j W Mary at this time next year. As far

1482
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 8: as scoops. You know, I think it's funny how anticlimaxic

1483
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 8: it really is, right because all of this stuff happens

1484
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 8: this whole week, happens ten twelve days before free agency opened,

1485
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 8: So it's a lot of it's a lot of like, well,

1486
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 8: this could happen more.

1487
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 10: So than this is.

1488
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 8: The two things that I really came away with a

1489
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 8: big impression of were number one, due to the coaching

1490
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 8: change in Arizona and the fact that Mike Lafleura, member

1491
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 8: of the Sean McVay coaching tree, was coming in. I

1492
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 8: wasn't completely convinced when I got to Indy that Kyler

1493
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,839
Speaker 8: Murray's time in Phoenix was really done. I'm very convinced

1494
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 8: that that is the case after being in Indie for

1495
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 8: a week. And then the other one is, you know,

1496
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 8: you look at the financials of the possibility of trading

1497
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 8: aj Brown, it doesn't really make a lot of sense

1498
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 8: for the Philadelphia Eagles to do it anytime soon. And

1499
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 8: so I went into the week not really believing that

1500
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 8: that was on the table. And again, these are all

1501
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 8: things that could happen, not necessarily things that will happen.

1502
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 8: But after three or four days and a handful of dinners.

1503
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 8: I came out of it thinking like, Okay, no, that

1504
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 8: could really happen. Then go figure it. The Eagles that

1505
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 8: would do something like that. They're usually willing to zig

1506
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 8: where everybody thinks they're going to zag.

1507
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's such a it's a long week, it's

1508
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 3: a fun week. But one of the big things I

1509
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 3: think this year for you, Dave, is you do a

1510
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 3: show with Dane Brugler once a week for the Athletic

1511
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 3: and you have been on top of kind of these

1512
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 3: draft process prospects, following them throughout the college season. So

1513
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 3: now like you're not starting. I think so many of us,

1514
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 3: myself included, this is the time where I'm like diving

1515
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 3: into Dane's the Beast and trying to figure out like

1516
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 3: make heads or tails of these prospects and who you know,

1517
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 3: who's going to go where and this that the other.

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Speaker 3: You've been on top of this all season long, and

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01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 3: was there anything that you know kind of reaffirmed maybe

1520
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 3: was something you thought about a player or maybe completely

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01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 3: like was did the combine change your opinion on anything?

1522
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 3: Just as someone who has been tracking and charting this

1523
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 3: kind of stuff all season long, I'll tell you what

1524
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 3: karm it is.

1525
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 8: It is a big leg up to get to Indy

1526
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 8: and already be familiar with like the eighty most important players.

1527
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 8: Yet dude, it's a really nice starting point. I try,

1528
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 8: and you know, my goal is not to let then

1529
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 8: combine completely change my opinion of a player. I mean,

1530
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,919
Speaker 8: I do think some of the testing is very important.

1531
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 8: I think it would be wrong to wave it off

1532
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 8: completely as the underwear Olympics.

1533
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 5: But that's what it looks like right now. We're watching it,

1534
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh my god, exactly what it is that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, to a degree that's fair, but like you're

1536
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 8: learning some very valuable things about guys, like their stop

1537
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 8: start acceleration, their body control, the way they can bend

1538
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 8: the corner, their arm length, Like, there are very valuable

1539
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 8: measurements there. I still wouldn't let it completely change my

1540
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 8: opinion of this of a prospect, but there are a

1541
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 8: few things that jump out to me. I mean, I'm

1542
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 8: sitting at home watching right now too. I'm very encouraged

1543
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 8: that Drew Aller, the Penn State quarterback, is taking part

1544
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 8: in his workout today and look pretty.

1545
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: Good doing it.

1546
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 8: I mean, that's not to say that it's going to

1547
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 8: jump his draft stock crazily. But you talk about a

1548
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 8: very highly toouted guy who season was cut short by injury.

1549
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 8: Even before he got hurt, he was playing very poorly.

1550
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 8: And so for him to be healthy again, I mean,

1551
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 8: he's got all the measurables. So for him to be

1552
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 8: healthy again and have a chance to get drafted fairly

1553
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 8: highly because of it, I think that's cool. I love

1554
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 8: the safety in linebacker class this year. I think if

1555
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 8: you need a safety in the NFL in twenty twenty six,

1556
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,480
Speaker 8: there's like nine guys worth being excited about. The receivers

1557
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 8: always always put on a show. There were like eight

1558
01:11:56,120 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 8: receivers running blazing forty times today, So I think you

1559
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 8: can you can always count on being able to draft

1560
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 8: a good receiver in the modern NFL, even if there's

1561
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 8: not like a superstar prospect this year, I think there's

1562
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 8: going to be like six to eight guys that really

1563
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 8: make a difference quickly. And if I didn't say linebacker already,

1564
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 8: I know, I mean I heard y'all talking about Tonny

1565
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 8: Styles earlier in the show. I mean, if there was

1566
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 8: like a Capitol w winner from the combine this year,

1567
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 8: Sonny Styles came into the draft process, like when the

1568
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 8: season ended, he was already seen as a top twenty guy.

1569
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 10: Uh.

1570
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Speaker 8: And now I think with the combine behind him and

1571
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 8: like the totality of what he is on the table,

1572
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 8: really the only place I'm willing to draw the line

1573
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 8: is number one overall. Like fora yeah, he's banana, but

1574
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,879
Speaker 8: doesn't going to go one overall. Yeah, And Donny Styles

1575
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 8: is an off ball linebacker, so I do think that

1576
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 8: puts a little bit of a cap on him. But

1577
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 8: when you look at the lack of blue chip talent

1578
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 8: in this year's draft, then you know there's not a

1579
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 8: There's not a Miles Garrett, there's not a Molik Neighbors.

1580
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 8: You know there's not There aren't like difference makers at

1581
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 8: the premium positions. And if there was a year where

1582
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 8: a freaky off ball linebacker was going to go to overall,

1583
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 8: I think tell you used to pull it off.

1584
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 4: At the very least.

1585
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 8: I think he cemented himself as a top ten.

1586
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 10: Pick this week.

1587
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Speaker 2: Wild Okay, I got to ask you a question about

1588
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 2: your Cowboys before we let you go. They officially placed

1589
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: their franchise tag on wide receiver George Pickens, locking them

1590
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 2: in for another season. Do you still expect Dallas to

1591
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 2: get a long term deal done with him before the

1592
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 2: July fifteenth deadline?

1593
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 8: You know, I used to you used to be able

1594
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 8: to just say, oh, you can set your watch to it.

1595
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 8: The Cowboys are going to hamm and haw and make

1596
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 8: a bunch of noise and then they'll sign the guy.

1597
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 8: But we're six months removed from them not doing that

1598
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 8: and then gipping off Micah Parsons in the middle of

1599
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 8: his prime for a couple of first round picks. So

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01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 8: at this point, I don't think you can say anything definitively.

1601
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 8: If they're not convinced that that Pickens put together that

1602
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 8: type of resume, I think they might let him play

1603
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 8: out the tag. I also, I don't think George Pickens

1604
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,799
Speaker 8: has or will have as robust a market as Micah

1605
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 8: Parsons did, when you consider that it's really just one

1606
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 8: year of productions. He comes with some headache concerns, whether

1607
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 8: it's consistency, whether it's work ethic, whether it's behavior, however

1608
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 8: you want to phrase it. Yeah, So I don't think

1609
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 8: George Pickens would have as easy a time forcing his

1610
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 8: way out of Dallas as Micah Parsons. Did so. If

1611
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 8: the Cowboys want to force him to play on the tag,

1612
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 8: I think they can. I think that would be a mistake,

1613
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 8: just because it's more expensive than it prevents you from

1614
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 8: building the best team possible. But at this point in

1615
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 8: my career, I know the Cowboys don't give a damn

1616
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 8: what I think, and so nothing should surprise us.

1617
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 4: Dave.

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01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 5: We appreciate you always.

1619
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 8: Coming on and anytime y'all have a good one.

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01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 5: Thanks so you too.

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01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: We're gonna take one more break and when we come

1622
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: back our field good stories of the week.

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Speaker 2: Right, carme, It is time for our feel good stories

1644
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 2: of the week, and mine is the rise of women's sports.

1645
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 2: The Olympics, eight of the twelve gold medals were won

1646
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 2: by women. Two thirds.

1647
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 5: You guys have our gold medals.

1648
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 2: Twenty one of our thirty three total team USA medals

1649
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 2: were won by women. That is sixty four percent. And

1650
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: this is the sixth consecutive Olympics where women have won

1651
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 2: more medals than the men. And that is not a

1652
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 2: laughing matter, if you know, you know. And after that

1653
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 2: gold medal win, the Women's Professional Hockey League just played

1654
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: to the largest women's hockey crowd ever in the US,

1655
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 2: over seventeen thousand fans in attendance. In Seattle ticket searches,

1656
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 2: we're up fifty percent. Ticket purchases, We're up forty two percent.

1657
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 2: And in the words of our Captain America Hillary Knight

1658
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 2: on our team, USA Women's hockey gold medal team. Women

1659
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 2: aren't less than our achievements, and our achievements should not

1660
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: be overshadowed by anything other than how great that they are.

1661
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 2: I am just so proud of this women's hockey team

1662
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:02,440
Speaker 2: and all really the women medalist, gold medalist, the camaraderie

1663
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,799
Speaker 2: that we saw among these female athletes. We saw multiple

1664
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 2: podiums where all the women winners were celebrating each other.

1665
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 5: They were taking photos with each other, They were excited

1666
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 5: for each other even if they didn't win gold. It

1667
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 5: was the most beautiful thing.

1668
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 2: And I think Olympic gold medalist Alyssa Lu said it

1669
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 2: best where she said singers perform all the time, but

1670
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 2: they don't get scored. You know, That's how I view

1671
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: this competition. I can't bring myself to see other skaters

1672
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 2: as competition. We're all just independent artists and they celebrate

1673
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: each other's wins.

1674
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 5: And that's so cool. That's so cool. That was my

1675
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 5: field gets storry too, Oh my god, let's keep it going.

1676
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 4: No, it is.

1677
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 3: I there was so much from the Winter Olympics in particular, Yes,

1678
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 3: like Eileen Gu from China, who is American bowl like,

1679
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 3: she also American. She I have Chilsea competes for Chinese

1680
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 3: for the Chinese team and she took silver and had

1681
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 3: a reporter ask her like, is this a gold lost

1682
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 3: or is this a silver game? And she's like, I

1683
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 3: resent that. It's a hard thing to win a medal

1684
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 3: in the Olympics, and I have a target on my

1685
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 3: back because I've been one of the best women's free

1686
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 3: skiers for years at this point, and it doesn't get

1687
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,799
Speaker 3: any easier for me, but the expectations just get higher,

1688
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 3: and of course I'm going to celebrate getting a silver medal.

1689
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 4: I think.

1690
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 3: And there were so many just fun stories. It's also

1691
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,799
Speaker 3: cool because the Winter Olympics, and I think any Olympics

1692
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 3: in particular, but the Winter Olympics where you have sports

1693
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 3: like curling or you do have hockey where people do

1694
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 3: play later into life, but then you also have figure

1695
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 3: skaters that are fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old. You have

1696
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 3: like just all types of age ranges, which means all

1697
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,799
Speaker 3: types of life stages. So you see, you know, Alissa

1698
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,759
Speaker 3: lou who retired from sport at the age of sixteen,

1699
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,440
Speaker 3: comes back a year after coming back wins a world championship,

1700
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 3: a year after that wins a gold medal.

1701
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 4: It's all.

1702
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 3: And then you have someone in that stage of life

1703
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 3: that is that aware of their surroundings. And then you

1704
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 3: also have people like Kennel coinn Showfield, Schoolfield, who's on

1705
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 3: the US women's hockey team that one gold that said

1706
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 3: before that Canada match, ye, she was like, I had

1707
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 3: this vision of holding my son in my arms as

1708
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 3: I got my gold medal and the national anthem is playing,

1709
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 3: and it happened. And it's so cool to see women

1710
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 3: of all ages in all life stages just set an

1711
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,560
Speaker 3: example for everyone.

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01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 4: I mean, you don't have to be a world class

1713
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 4: athlete to.

1714
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 3: Take something from all of these stories and from this

1715
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 3: entire experience.

1716
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 4: I love I love the Winter Olympics.

1717
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 3: I was actually thinking about how I might like the

1718
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 3: Winter Olympics more than the Summer Olympics.

1719
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1720
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 5: I mean that's fair.

1721
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 3: The sports are like more dangerous and like they're like,

1722
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, I like a little like, I like

1723
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 3: a little danger.

1724
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 2: I think just our generation, like ice skating is always

1725
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 2: going to be so iconic like that is that's what

1726
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 2: defines the Olympics. For me, like when I was a kid,

1727
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: when I think of Olympics, I'm like, oh, ice skating

1728
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 2: just always, we saw the women do and the freedom

1729
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 2: and the joy was just like unmatched this year and

1730
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 2: then again the support of one of us and.

1731
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 3: We saw that in the summer of the last Summer Olympics,

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Speaker 3: the Jordan Chiles and the Simoe Miles podium. And I

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01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 3: think it's going to carry over into these next Olympics too,

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01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 3: which I'm so excited about because we are getting flag football,

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01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 3: women's flag football.

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01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 2: But the Jalen Hurts like lighting the torch and throwing

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01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 2: it on the top of the coliseum keeps playing on

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01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 2: commercial here and it gets me so pumped every time.

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01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 3: I'm just excited for women's flag football, which is a

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01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 3: real sport. It is, it's an NCAA sanctioned sport as

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01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 3: it is now. It's it's it's really cool and this

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Speaker 3: is how it happens.

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01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 2: I love it, CARMI, great show, and thank you of

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Speaker 2: you guys for spending your Saturday afternoon with us. We'll

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01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,799
Speaker 2: see you same time next week, same place.

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Speaker 4: Bye.