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Speaker 1: I am Jeff Joniya litsus On dot go uscir.
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Speaker 1: Ye Bears et Cetera with the voices of the Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears Jeff Joniac all right, what is the value of
Speaker 1: one win for a Bears team that went into Washington
Speaker 1: to tax scored and finished the job forty to twenty I'd.
Speaker 4: Say it's significant.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out how significant as the week rolls on.
Speaker 1: Welcome into episode twenty three of The Bears et Cetera podcast,
Speaker 1: alongside my broadcast partner at twenty seven year Super Bowl
Speaker 1: winning Bear guard Tom Thayer, and coming up our weekly
Speaker 1: visit with Bears head coach Matty Refluse. We come to
Speaker 1: you every Tuesday and Thursday, and we appreciate you listening
Speaker 1: and hopefully you are enjoying the show as much as
Speaker 1: we are enjoy your weekend.
Speaker 2: Tom, Yeah, I did you know? It's kind of you know,
Speaker 2: fun after a victory, you know, you get some work
Speaker 2: done that you don't get a chance to do that
Speaker 2: in the course of the season, and then you get
Speaker 2: a chance to watch football. So yeah, it was a
Speaker 2: good weekend. Notre name got beat my high school one,
Speaker 2: and of course we started it with the Bears victory
Speaker 2: on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's certainly more fun to talk about it, and
Speaker 1: we talked about it on a Bears Game Night Live
Speaker 1: last night. We were laughing, having fun breaking down big plays.
Speaker 1: It's always fun to see big plays. Sometimes over the years,
Speaker 1: you know, you become jealous when you're watching teams put
Speaker 1: together an aerial show and you're stacking up victories and
Speaker 1: their playoff contenders. So hopefully this is the spark that
Speaker 1: lights the firetime.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, though, Jeff, when you look you think
Speaker 2: about the Denver game and you think about this past
Speaker 2: Washington game. I think there's a lot of value in
Speaker 2: the film. And even though they lost the Denver game,
Speaker 2: but they won the Washington game. I think you kind
Speaker 2: of saw a lot of workable, workable type things that
Speaker 2: you can reuse both offensively and defensively. So I think that,
Speaker 2: to me is the encouraging part of it, and hopefully
Speaker 2: we'll see going forward how it fits into the remainder
Speaker 2: of the year or at least the next game plan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of regret about that Denver game down the road for
Speaker 1: some reason, that thing that was there to be one,
Speaker 1: uh and it should have been one. And I think
Speaker 1: that will be something that it may it may haunt
Speaker 1: this team later in the year. But you know, this
Speaker 1: is all the process of learning. That's that's football, that's
Speaker 1: that's the NFL.
Speaker 4: But I didn't I did the math. Zero to two wins.
Speaker 1: There are eight teams in the league at that at
Speaker 1: that number right now, we've got a bunch of one
Speaker 1: and four teams. We've got a winless team in Carolina,
Speaker 1: a couple of two win teams. So everybody's not getting
Speaker 1: out of the gate like a flash or playing five
Speaker 1: hundred football. Everybody's still trying to figure it out. And
Speaker 1: even the team. Look at Minnesota, an upcoming opponent eleven
Speaker 1: one score wins a year ago, and that is not
Speaker 1: the case one and four here in twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: so far anyway.
Speaker 2: Right, So you know that's why you talk about the
Speaker 2: haunt of the Denver game, because if the Bears had
Speaker 2: won two games in a row, got back, well, you know,
Speaker 2: had a chance to get back in the division with
Speaker 2: this upcoming game against Minnesota. But I guess you have
Speaker 2: to leave the results in your rearview mirror. But you
Speaker 2: have to take, like I said, the value out of
Speaker 2: the tapes and you know how you improved, who's improving,
Speaker 2: how guys are instrumentally fitting in their roles on this
Speaker 2: football team, because in the if you look at the production,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of new guys that had a lot
Speaker 2: of production in these games that I think that you
Speaker 2: have to continue to capitalize on their performance and their
Speaker 2: willing their ability to improve.
Speaker 1: Also, you're going to be looking at staring at two
Speaker 1: more losing streaks. You got to get rid of one.
Speaker 1: You've lost eight in a row in the division, and
Speaker 1: you'll you got a nine game home losing streak. Time
Speaker 1: it's time to get back Soldier Field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I think the fans, the fans
Speaker 2: did a nice job last week of really being involved
Speaker 2: in the game, and the Bears gave him something to
Speaker 2: be involved in. And I think the same thing is,
Speaker 2: you know this week, like you said you got to
Speaker 2: get you got to get ownership of that stadium back.
Speaker 2: And I think it's really important for a lot of
Speaker 2: these guys that were here last year and guys that
Speaker 2: have been here this year haven't seen leaving Soldier Field
Speaker 2: during the regular season after a victory, and how appreciative
Speaker 2: the fans will be.
Speaker 1: All right, some of the roster moves designating cornerback Kyler
Speaker 1: Gordon and offensive center Doug Kramer for return from injured reserve.
Speaker 1: So the hand injury that Kyler Gordon had, he was
Speaker 1: off to a great start looking forward to his return.
Speaker 1: In Doug Kramer's battled injury his first two years in
Speaker 1: the league, the local product from Hensdale in the University
Speaker 1: of Illinois, always a smile on his face in the
Speaker 1: locker room, looking forward to getting back.
Speaker 4: And Darrington Evids's back.
Speaker 1: Got a call Friday, call Friday from his agency, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know they might want to get you into Chicago
Speaker 1: and so here back. He played against him in the
Speaker 1: preseason with Miami, had a big thirty five yard running
Speaker 1: with a motion. You remember that run he had against
Speaker 1: against the Bear. So he's back on the fifty three
Speaker 1: man coming off of Miami's practice squad.
Speaker 4: So and he had a choice.
Speaker 1: He had a choice, you come to a roster and
Speaker 1: get paid as a rostered player, or stay on a
Speaker 1: really good team right there down in Miami hoping for
Speaker 1: an opportunity. That's always big decision now for players.
Speaker 2: It is, but players want to play, Jeff, And that's
Speaker 2: the thing about it is if you're buried on the
Speaker 2: depth chart and you may never be able to sniff
Speaker 2: the active roster. These guys are type A personalities that
Speaker 2: they want to have the opportunity to contribute wherever they play.
Speaker 1: And Nathan Peterman back to the practice squad as a linebacker,
Speaker 1: Deslin Alexander. It was released before we get to a
Speaker 1: coach eber Flus and hear what he had to say.
Speaker 1: And again we tape this interview with coach on Friday
Speaker 1: after the game after we got back, so we'll get
Speaker 1: you up today on what he had to say at
Speaker 1: his news conference on Monday.
Speaker 4: But a happy six.
Speaker 1: Whenever I hear an eighty five bear is turning sixty
Speaker 1: five or older, it freaks me out. But Mike Singletary,
Speaker 1: Happy birthday on Monday at the age of sixty five
Speaker 1: for the Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was talking to Hampton and I
Speaker 2: know that he recently had a birthday too, maybe within
Speaker 2: the last two weeks. And you know, our generation or
Speaker 2: our our group of players, they're climbing the ladder and
Speaker 2: age and you know, you know, look, man, you look
Speaker 2: at Singletary nowadays, great shape, he's great character, you know,
Speaker 2: And to me, he doesn't seem any older than the
Speaker 2: guy that I used to locker directly across from in
Speaker 2: the old Hallas Hall and spend plenty of years, you know,
Speaker 2: enjoying his company, and you know, looking at his his
Speaker 2: dedication to being great in you know, being a great contributor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you learn football wise from Big Mic?
Speaker 2: He's the most well prepared professional football player I've ever
Speaker 2: been around, physically, mentally, spiritually, The way he wanted his
Speaker 2: teammates to grow, the way that he was super informative
Speaker 2: in the locker room, the way he would take charge
Speaker 2: his leadership role. He didn't shy away from some uncomfortable
Speaker 2: conversations with management, whether you're talking about the conditions of
Speaker 2: the practice field or what we needed as a team. So,
Speaker 2: you know, I just think that Mike is just the
Speaker 2: type of CEO player that you want in a locker room.
Speaker 1: So Monday, Matt Eberfluss out of the break, talked about
Speaker 1: the self scout, looking at the scheme, looking at each individual,
Speaker 1: then looking at each position group, couple of improvement suggestions
Speaker 1: for each player, also looking at the scheme, but now
Speaker 1: also looking at a little help. So he's going to
Speaker 1: add a senior defensive assistant. Could be somebody that works
Speaker 1: a little bit at home, works about here. It's more
Speaker 1: about the advancing of the next opponent, to take a
Speaker 1: little bit off that plate and get them maybe hitting
Speaker 1: the ground running a little faster for weeks.
Speaker 4: I don't know who it's going to be.
Speaker 1: It's somebody that he has not mentioned the name, but
Speaker 1: you know, people jump to Rod Marinelli right away, but
Speaker 1: he said no, he's.
Speaker 4: Enjoying retirement down in Vegas.
Speaker 1: So do you think this is a good idea if
Speaker 1: it's if it's a good idea for coach, I guess
Speaker 1: it's a good idea if it's going to help them,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, I guess if you can give some pre
Speaker 2: scouting advice from watching an opponent beforehand, and they don't
Speaker 2: only watch one game. They'll watch several games and they'll
Speaker 2: get their tendencies, and they'll get information from their past
Speaker 2: experience in the league and how to pass that information forward.
Speaker 2: I want them to be, you know, help constructively. I
Speaker 2: don't want another voice of confusion. So if Matt feels
Speaker 2: that he would welcome the help of someone out there
Speaker 2: that he is familiar with, hey, I'm all for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Matt continue to call the plays and be
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator's last head coach. Injury news, he won't
Speaker 1: get into that until Wednesday, but there could be some
Speaker 1: promise for Jalen Johnson returning, Eddie Jackson returning as well potentially.
Speaker 1: And now we don't have an official word on Khalil Herbert,
Speaker 1: but looks like the running back could have an ankle
Speaker 1: injury that could keep him down.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it was kind of evident of that
Speaker 2: when he taped his ankle up and he tried to
Speaker 2: come back in the game and it was a one
Speaker 2: play trial and he head back to the sideline. Thankfully,
Speaker 2: they had a guy like Cary blasting game. And because
Speaker 2: he is in the role of a full back, he
Speaker 2: has to be equally knowledgeable about the role of the halfback.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure any play that Luke gets, he wanted
Speaker 2: a call from the sideline. You know, he had one
Speaker 2: hundred percent you know, opportunities with blasting game in the game.
Speaker 1: And in terms of Minnesota, Justin Jefferson coming down with
Speaker 1: that hamstring injury and I know they are going to
Speaker 1: have a hard time keeping him off the field. They
Speaker 1: had a hard time keeping him on the sideline. He
Speaker 1: doesn't like miss a play, let alone a game, but
Speaker 1: a they're going to take it slow unless it's just
Speaker 1: gaming ship and he'll show up and have a great game.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but uh, that's that's Kevin O'Connell basically
Speaker 1: saying they're going to take it slow with Jefferson. To me,
Speaker 1: still the best player in the division, regardless of position.
Speaker 1: That's my personal opinion.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it kind of surprises me because if
Speaker 2: he was close, if it wasn't that significant of a poll,
Speaker 2: and they were in that game yesterday up until the end,
Speaker 2: I thought maybe he would go back in there and
Speaker 2: try to get that isolation rep that he needed that
Speaker 2: resulted in a score. Justin Jefferson is a great football player,
Speaker 2: like you said, probably one of the top one or
Speaker 2: two in the division, and I I, you know, I
Speaker 2: never want to wish.
Speaker 4: A guy in No, no, absolutely, you know, you.
Speaker 2: Know he's he's a tremendous player and he has been
Speaker 2: since the minute he walked on an NFL field.
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Speaker 1: Here's my conversation with head coach Maddy Bruflues following the
Speaker 1: win in Washington.
Speaker 4: All Right, good to have you back. Congratulations first and foremost.
Speaker 3: I know it's just it's.
Speaker 1: Just one and you'd treat a loss like a win,
Speaker 1: but this just feels different, you know, feels different.
Speaker 3: No, what's happening for the guys?
Speaker 5: You know, you know, it's good that they had the
Speaker 5: weekend off and it's important that we build on this momentum.
Speaker 5: And I thought the guys did a heck of a
Speaker 5: job of coming out and executing and on a short
Speaker 5: week and having their minds right, you know, in terms
Speaker 5: of their preparation, because you can certainly feel the passion
Speaker 5: and the fire that came out on Thursday night.
Speaker 4: I love the attack first snap.
Speaker 1: It just soind of set the tone then for everybody
Speaker 1: all three phases. But did you feel that everybody kind
Speaker 1: of just like just let it.
Speaker 4: Loose, just let it loose.
Speaker 3: Well, it's you know, I think it was just a
Speaker 3: mindset for the whole week.
Speaker 5: You know, we talked about, you know, being on the
Speaker 5: attack and making sure that we had our bodies right,
Speaker 5: you know, and then really the focus of the detail
Speaker 5: during the walk through, because you get a ton of
Speaker 5: walk throughs, you know, during that time. The first day,
Speaker 5: I think we got sixty plays have walked through, and
Speaker 5: the next next day we almost got a hundred, you know, yeah,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, and it's it's.
Speaker 3: Really good for the preparation.
Speaker 5: And then you get a Friday that that that gold
Speaker 5: zone practice there on Wednesday before you leave, and then
Speaker 5: you get another walk through the day of the game
Speaker 5: on Thursday, so you get a bunch of reps.
Speaker 3: And the execution was high on Thursday.
Speaker 1: So I got to be honest with Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I have friends that played high school football or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe held in college or whatever, and they
Speaker 1: kind of scoff at the whole walk through thing. Say, hey,
Speaker 1: Matt always talks about walk throughs, and I think in general,
Speaker 1: I think the average football fan. I mean, who cares
Speaker 1: like it's a walk through? It's not full speed, You're
Speaker 1: not fit, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: What's the the meaning.
Speaker 1: Of it in the bigger picture that people maybe overlook?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, so a walkthrough is really you're actually running
Speaker 5: plays against the opponent. So you have a show team
Speaker 5: offense running a play against our defense, and a show
Speaker 5: team defense, you know, aligning up against our number one offense,
Speaker 5: and they can do everything live up into the snap.
Speaker 5: So it's feet, hands and eyes. You're getting in a
Speaker 5: fitted position. You're you're stepping through and it's almost like
Speaker 5: a jog through pace. You're stepping through your assignment, you know,
Speaker 5: your protection, your your blitz path, whatever it may be.
Speaker 5: The coverages, you know, the matching of the routes and
Speaker 5: the coverages, the adjustments for the receivers you know, you
Speaker 5: know buy the coverage and you know so to me,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of things that go in. You're actually
Speaker 5: physically running the plays and it's just not at full speed.
Speaker 5: And you can get a ton of reps on that,
Speaker 5: a ton of different looks, and you can get your
Speaker 5: assignments down, you know, so, and your technique you can
Speaker 5: work on your technique, even it's a slower pace, so
Speaker 5: there's a lot of benefit from it. We do it
Speaker 5: all the time. Before every practice, we do a twenty
Speaker 5: five minute walk through before we actually practice the plays.
Speaker 5: So we do it every single day and it's an
Speaker 5: important part of what we do.
Speaker 1: So have to belabor that point. There's much to talk about,
Speaker 1: but is this kind of the exam portion of the week.
Speaker 1: If if they're not mentally right, they're making mistakes and
Speaker 1: walk through, that's a red flat.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you what we do is we install during
Speaker 5: the meetings, you know. So with that we'll you know,
Speaker 5: obviously have powerpoints and different things, diagrams, video to back
Speaker 5: that up exactly how we want it done, you know,
Speaker 5: give them the perfect picture, and then we'll go immediately
Speaker 5: to the walkthrough, you know. So they got to transfer
Speaker 5: the information that they gathered during the meeting onto now
Speaker 5: functional intelligence, which is you know, actually executing you know,
Speaker 5: the play call or the defensive call or the special
Speaker 5: teams assignment.
Speaker 1: One of the things I enjoy about wins around the
Speaker 1: NFL Peter King's Dinner for years. It's like there's a
Speaker 1: there's a story behind the win, especially a big one
Speaker 1: and he writes about it on Monday morning and gets
Speaker 1: to talk to the coach and the quarterback, like, not
Speaker 1: just these the stuff that everybody else is, like something
Speaker 1: behind the scenes that led to this, a creative thought
Speaker 1: and idea.
Speaker 3: Whatever?
Speaker 1: Is there one to describe this win? Given what you
Speaker 1: guys have gone through?
Speaker 4: Is there a story?
Speaker 5: I would say that, you know, working back to the
Speaker 5: Denver week, you know, we really you know, we had
Speaker 5: just had a hard loss to Kansas City, you know,
Speaker 5: we were going into Denver, and you know, we focused
Speaker 5: on the details of your position and I challenged everybody
Speaker 5: at your position that they play their very best this
Speaker 5: week coming up in the Denver game. And we focused
Speaker 5: on details of the positions. So we did it for
Speaker 5: the walkthroughs, we did it for the drills during individual
Speaker 5: we did it during the practice, and you know, I
Speaker 5: had everybody write it up exactly. You know, two things
Speaker 5: in the run, two things in your past techniques that
Speaker 5: you need to get better at. And we just focused
Speaker 5: on that, the details of that, and I said, if
Speaker 5: we can get better at that, guys, we'll be a
Speaker 5: better football team. And they did that. You know, we
Speaker 5: did a really good job of that, and they and
Speaker 5: the guys. Obviously we executed a high rate in the
Speaker 5: first half of the Denver game and really through three quarters,
Speaker 5: you know, And then my to them after that game was, hey, guys,
Speaker 5: really a good job and there's a lot of momentum
Speaker 5: to build from Denver, I said, but the one thing
Speaker 5: we have to do is learn how to finish, and
Speaker 5: and how you do that is just keep.
Speaker 3: Doing the same thing.
Speaker 5: It's a cycle of the snap, one play at a
Speaker 5: time and focus on those details because the little details
Speaker 5: make the big things happen.
Speaker 3: And that's what we did on Thursday.
Speaker 4: All Right, how does that become sustainable?
Speaker 5: Thinking, Yeah, it's just you got it's repetition, consistency and repetition.
Speaker 5: You know, you can never get you know, board with
Speaker 5: the mundane, you know, with the with the you know,
Speaker 5: the constant repetition of the fundamentals again and it changes.
Speaker 5: Your fundamentals don't change, but the scheme changes a little bit.
Speaker 5: You know, the way you dress a play up, the
Speaker 5: way you you know, maybe have a blitz. It looks differently,
Speaker 5: but it's really the same type of blitz. But you know,
Speaker 5: those things are always constant in football, and you really
Speaker 5: have to be a laser like focus in your mind
Speaker 5: to get that done.
Speaker 1: All right, You've had a ton on your plate as
Speaker 1: a head coach that goes without saying, now the defensive calls,
Speaker 1: and I've defended this decision to call your own plays
Speaker 1: and be the defensive corner at why you're head coach,
Speaker 1: because it's been done many times before. And then I
Speaker 1: heard something on Wato and Sylvie that this week you
Speaker 1: said last week you said, you know, they asked you
Speaker 1: if you talked to folks?
Speaker 4: Are you talking to your old coaches? Is that where
Speaker 4: this is?
Speaker 3: You mean my mentors?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the guys, and like, what's that conversation?
Speaker 5: Like, Yeah, I've talked to a lot of them, a
Speaker 5: lot of them, you know, have given me words of encouragement,
Speaker 5: you know, have you know, But really the thing that
Speaker 5: I take most from those guys is what I modeled
Speaker 5: the you know, you model the behavior you see, right,
Speaker 5: you know, as a as as a child growing up
Speaker 5: and you're in your family, as a young coach growing up,
Speaker 5: you model the behavior of the guys that are ahead
Speaker 5: of you. And I had some really good ones, some
Speaker 5: Hall of fame guys and some really good coaches to
Speaker 5: be able to do that. And the one thing that's
Speaker 5: consistent with every one of them is they stayed consistent.
Speaker 3: You know, they didn't ebb and flow with the tide.
Speaker 5: What they did was they said, hey, this is the principles,
Speaker 5: these are the standards, and if we keep doing right,
Speaker 5: it'll be right. And you just keep doing that over
Speaker 5: and over. It's repetition again. We've won one football game, right,
Speaker 5: and and but we understand that the momentum is swinging
Speaker 5: in the right direction. And we also understand that this
Speaker 5: league is hard and every week is a challenge and
Speaker 5: we have to focus in every single week and to
Speaker 5: get this done.
Speaker 1: All right, So when you get up every morning last
Speaker 1: week during this streak, because frankly, I know, I know
Speaker 1: it's a new year, but you know, you personally have
Speaker 1: had experienced fourteen straight losses, no matter what the team
Speaker 1: looks like. So did you fight the urge to change
Speaker 1: what you do typically you personally or did that those
Speaker 1: little like pep talks from your peers and mentors help
Speaker 1: you stay the course? Because did you have these tendencies
Speaker 1: to think, gosh, what if I did try something different
Speaker 1: that's out of my comfort zone?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think it's you know, does not
Speaker 5: try something different. It's refocus, you know, on the basics.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: So it's not like go to somewhere someplace where you're gonna, hey,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna run this different defense or this different scheme.
Speaker 5: That's not where the answer is. The answer goes back
Speaker 5: to the basics. And that's what my mentors would say too,
Speaker 5: you know. And that's that's what we focused on.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: The last thing I said to the guys before they
Speaker 5: went out, you know, in the in the game, was
Speaker 5: I said, win the physical battle, I said, and I
Speaker 5: said also, I said, do the basics.
Speaker 3: And what is that?
Speaker 5: I said, blocking and finish, Tackling and finish. And I said,
Speaker 5: if we do those things and we take care of
Speaker 5: the football and take the ball away, we're gonna like
Speaker 5: the result. I know that sounds very basic.
Speaker 4: But if you can focus on simple, it is.
Speaker 3: But it's hard, it is, it is. It's hard. The
Speaker 3: guy and the guys did a nice job at Thursday.
Speaker 1: Night, would you would you agree the offensive line exemplified
Speaker 1: that significantly, that group, and that was shuffling going on
Speaker 1: because of injury and plan with Tevin Jenkins. I think
Speaker 1: for football focus again, we all evaluate differently, but they
Speaker 1: had him for thirty seven snaps and no pressures. They
Speaker 1: were awesome. I mean, they were right on point. The
Speaker 1: pockets were clean, justin look confident in the pocket, I mean, and.
Speaker 4: Allowed those routes to develop.
Speaker 1: In some cases, routs had to develop for a minute there,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was there a long route. So would
Speaker 1: you say they exemplified everything you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, I would definitely say that.
Speaker 5: Chris Morgan, you know, Luke Steckel, working with the offensive line, Cable,
Speaker 5: they all do a great job with those guys. And
Speaker 5: you know, the injuries that we sustained during training camp
Speaker 5: really actually helped us, you know, for this game because
Speaker 5: we had moving parts. Yeah, Lucas Patrick leave and then
Speaker 5: Cody went back to center. Well he played center during
Speaker 5: before we moved back to guard during training camp. You know,
Speaker 5: JT had to come in and play, you know, so
Speaker 5: you had different guys rotating in and out. Larry is
Speaker 5: playing now, you know, so you know, because Braxton's out,
Speaker 5: you know, so there's a lot of moving he is there.
Speaker 5: But because we were able to do that during training
Speaker 5: camp and the first four games, we were able to operate.
Speaker 5: You know and really do a good job of executing
Speaker 5: in this moment on Thursday.
Speaker 1: And a tip of the cap to the coaching staff
Speaker 1: to get a team ready on a short week.
Speaker 3: It just showed. It showed you guys were ready to go. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah again, I credit the players and I credit the
Speaker 5: coaches for that and did a great job with the
Speaker 5: mindset and a great job with the detail.
Speaker 4: All Right, I wrote this about DJ Moore. He's not
Speaker 4: just a receiver.
Speaker 1: He's a bundle of explosion and a study in persistence
Speaker 1: after the catch to avoid being tackled.
Speaker 4: His plan after the catch is impressive. It likens for me.
Speaker 1: It's like I think about my MBA days of covering
Speaker 1: the Great Bulls Team.
Speaker 4: MJ had a plan on every move.
Speaker 1: It seems like I'm not saying he's Michael Jordan, but
Speaker 1: MJ's one one type of an athlete. DJ's another. He
Speaker 1: has a plan after that catch. It is sudden, and
Speaker 1: it's precise, and it's physic that dude is not get
Speaker 1: knocked off his pins. I mean, do I have that
Speaker 1: frame properly?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You do.
Speaker 5: He's strong, you know after the catch, he really is,
Speaker 5: and his ability to his contact balance is really good.
Speaker 5: So when they go to tackle him, it's very difficult
Speaker 5: to get him on the ground because he has great
Speaker 5: contact balance, so he's able to keep his his frame.
Speaker 5: He's able to keep his balance and be strong through
Speaker 5: that process and that's why it's so hard to get
Speaker 5: him down. And he's also very elusive. You know, his
Speaker 5: route running is impeccable. And like I said last night
Speaker 5: at the podium, the thing I love most about him
Speaker 5: is he's he's one of our hardest workers. Now, we
Speaker 5: got a lot of good hard workers, but he's definitely
Speaker 5: one of them. And it's great when you can have
Speaker 5: a leader like that that is one of your hardest workers.
Speaker 4: A few people know who Greg Stroman is.
Speaker 1: He's been in the league a bit and he has
Speaker 1: turned out to be a valuable asset in that Nickel spot.
Speaker 1: Tell us more about him and how impactful can he
Speaker 1: continue to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's done really well for us.
Speaker 5: Obviously that big interception last night, you know, stepping in
Speaker 5: there and you know we converted on that, and you know,
Speaker 5: he's done a really good job the last few weeks.
Speaker 5: You know, missing Gordon over these weeks, you know, it
Speaker 5: was difficult, but Stroman's done a nice stab of stepping
Speaker 5: in there for sure.
Speaker 1: And lastly, here are the seeds planted for that defensive
Speaker 1: line and the defense in general to continue to get
Speaker 1: home on those sacks. The pressures have been adding up
Speaker 1: sacks came against this quarterback. I know it's a new
Speaker 1: plan every week, but do you see that bearing fruit here?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think it's you know, just Garner's confidence, you know,
Speaker 5: and fosters that and the guys are really really excited
Speaker 5: last night after the game or last Thursday after the game,
Speaker 5: and you know, it's think it's really important to just
Speaker 5: keep building upon that, you know, I really do. You know,
Speaker 5: we had several hits on the quarterback during that game
Speaker 5: and we have to continue that. And we had some missops.
Speaker 5: You know, we let him spin out of a couple
Speaker 5: of sacks, and you know, we could have had a
Speaker 5: couple more. But you know, five sacks was a good,
Speaker 5: good start in the right direction.
Speaker 1: And now I'm Minnesota Kirk Cousins and of course justin
Speaker 1: Jefferson's elite. So you begin there and build a plan
Speaker 1: from there, I imagine.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, absolutely, yep, And it's going to be a
Speaker 5: big challenge. And again, it's all about us. It's about
Speaker 5: us focusing on how we do things and about our.
Speaker 1: Execution, all right, coming out of that, you know, just
Speaker 1: I guess the big topic and it will remain that way.
Speaker 1: Because DJ Moore emerged in a big way and being
Speaker 1: compared statistically favorable to the best receivers in the league
Speaker 1: through five weeks of the season right now, you.
Speaker 2: Know he is. I mean, just think of a receiver
Speaker 2: and what's required out of him to run perfect routes,
Speaker 2: to have body adjustment, to have a visualization of making
Speaker 2: the catch even though he has distractions within his sight line.
Speaker 2: He's a difficult tackle once he gets to his feet,
Speaker 2: and he's got the speed to take it whatever distance
Speaker 2: he needs to take it. So everything that's required out
Speaker 2: of a receiver to be an official You know, I
Speaker 2: don't know when the last time we could say, okay,
Speaker 2: there's an official number one on this team. DJ Moore
Speaker 2: is an official number one on this team.
Speaker 1: Well, we had Brandon Marshall, Alshawan Jeffrey that was a
Speaker 1: one in one A maybe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but you know, I don't think they were
Speaker 2: in the prime of their career like DJ Moore is.
Speaker 2: And I listen, I like the work ethic and the
Speaker 2: seriousness that Brandon Marshall brought to work every day. But
Speaker 2: it ended up going haywire and he went on his way,
Speaker 2: and you know some of the other guys. But I
Speaker 2: think for as long as we've been wanting to say
Speaker 2: a number one receiver, I think DJ Moore is that
Speaker 2: number one receiver.
Speaker 1: Well, and Justin Fields, as we talked about on the
Speaker 1: TV show. I mean, he's got a perfect quarterback rating
Speaker 1: justin throwing the DJ Moore this season can't get any
Speaker 1: better perfect.
Speaker 2: You know. Two is I don't want to lose sight
Speaker 2: of how much respect I have for Darnell Mooney. I
Speaker 2: think DJ Moore is a great receiver, and it's nice
Speaker 2: to have someone on your team you can have number
Speaker 2: A call and Number one. However, I think that DJ
Speaker 2: Moore the more targets he gets, the more opportunity it's
Speaker 2: going to present Darnell Mooney. And if Darnell Mooney would
Speaker 2: have made that catch the first play of the game,
Speaker 2: and look, they're asking a lot first play the game.
Speaker 2: They want the offensive line to sustain protection, they want
Speaker 2: Justin to drop back, they want him to throw a long,
Speaker 2: precise pass, and then Darnell come up with the play.
Speaker 2: If he would have came up with the play, it
Speaker 2: would have been super explosive. But they didn't shy away
Speaker 2: from continuing to throw the ball down the field. But
Speaker 2: I would like to see Darnell maybe get three to
Speaker 2: five more opportunities per game.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the offensive line. You're the
Speaker 1: best man for the job. I thought they were tremendous.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 1: We're talking about a number one each spot on Washington's defense,
Speaker 1: and they handle their business pass. Did they give up
Speaker 1: some pressures? Absolutely, they're going to every week. But the protection,
Speaker 1: the pockets were nice and clean for Justin to feel
Speaker 1: comfortable and rip it, rip it in all areas of
Speaker 1: the field. And then the run game the pools. I
Speaker 1: really really really like Darnell Wright and Nate Davis pulling
Speaker 1: from right to left. That is a sight to see,
Speaker 1: in my opinion. They are big, strong, and there and
Speaker 1: their landmarks are being hit. You tell me, that's a
Speaker 1: beautiful play right there.
Speaker 2: You're right, But you know, first of all, take in
Speaker 2: the offensive tackle into consideration. To talk about the offensive
Speaker 2: line first, So you have a rookie on one side,
Speaker 2: and you have Larry Borham who we know is athletic
Speaker 2: and has ability, but he's replacing Braxton Jones right now
Speaker 2: and he's playing up. He's playing at a high level.
Speaker 2: So offensive tackle position on the road you can rarely
Speaker 2: hear the snap count, so you have to have organized
Speaker 2: timing amongst the group. And when we talk about the
Speaker 2: offensive line developing chemistry, that's one of the most important
Speaker 2: elements of chemistry you need to develop. So this offensive
Speaker 2: line was really evenly timed on the snap of the ball.
Speaker 2: There wasn't guys that were getting off intermittently in at
Speaker 2: the wrong time to open up creases for the pass rush.
Speaker 2: So the interior guys worked well with the offensive tackle position,
Speaker 2: but I think it's it's tougher for the tackles because
Speaker 2: they're not really hearing anything. So as a complete unit
Speaker 2: organized they were at the snap of the ball. They
Speaker 2: had really well organized for the running game and the
Speaker 2: multiple plays they ran. But to me, when you go
Speaker 2: back and you research this pass protection, there was a
Speaker 2: lot of plays that Justin was never hassled off of
Speaker 2: this spot and he wasn't looking to eject the pocket.
Speaker 2: He had extended looks for his wide receivers, and I
Speaker 2: think it showed in his accuracy, the efficiency, the big
Speaker 2: catches that led to the big plays. So I was
Speaker 2: super encouraged by the offensive line. Oh oh yeah, Lucas
Speaker 2: Patrick had to go on, Cody Whitehair had to go
Speaker 2: to center, Tevin Jenkins that maybe I thought was gonna
Speaker 2: get five to fifteen snaps. I think Matty Eberflus at
Speaker 2: the podium said he got thirty seven. So super super
Speaker 2: encouraged by the job that Chris Morgan, offensive line coach, did,
Speaker 2: and Jaitari Carter also started the second half. So a
Speaker 2: lot of good from this performance.
Speaker 1: And a clean sheet on those thirty seven no pressures,
Speaker 1: no sacks allowed by Tevin Jenkins.
Speaker 2: That's why he was drafted in the position. He was
Speaker 2: to be considered a play offensive tackle. But now, Tevin,
Speaker 2: listen to me, listen to the podcast. I need ten
Speaker 2: straight games out of you and Nate Davis. I need
Speaker 2: ten straight games out of you guys to help your
Speaker 2: offensive tackles develop over the course of time in the
Speaker 2: regular season. And that's a big ask from what we've
Speaker 2: seen so far. So give me ten and then let's
Speaker 2: go to twenty sounds good.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Larry Burn for a minute because Braxton
Speaker 1: Jones next week can begin if possible return. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he will, but what have you thought of
Speaker 1: his performance so far? Based on playing last year right
Speaker 1: tackle and also getting some work at guard.
Speaker 2: Larry boorm pass blocking wise, has played more physical at
Speaker 2: the offensive tackle position. I thought last year there was
Speaker 2: times out of his set he may have been getting
Speaker 2: bull rush or pushed back a little bit too quickly
Speaker 2: in the quarterback's face. He's playing offensive tackle with more
Speaker 2: of the attitude that he showed us as a rookie
Speaker 2: when we saw him out there, and what a good, fluid,
Speaker 2: big athlete he looked like. So I'm super encouraged about
Speaker 2: what I've seen out of Larry Borham since he's been
Speaker 2: inserted in the lineup because of the Braxton Jones issue.
Speaker 2: And the more reps he gets on the field, the
Speaker 2: better the offensive line is, The better the offensive line is,
Speaker 2: the more depth they're developing. So I really important you
Speaker 2: know what he's doing.
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Speaker 1: Javon Dexter. I think most people feel he had his
Speaker 1: best game according to eber Flus, you know, getting off
Speaker 1: the ball a little little better against Washington, more consistent,
Speaker 1: and that's really the key for every rookie is to
Speaker 1: find consistency. But I think he had three pressures in
Speaker 1: the game. How important is this development kicking in gear
Speaker 1: at this point after five games? Now you're starting to
Speaker 1: work towards the middle of the season. Here for a
Speaker 1: rookie with this kind of second round draft grade.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, during the broadcast, we are talking about
Speaker 2: how I was sitting down on the Bear sideline and
Speaker 2: I was watching him go through some pregame paces with
Speaker 2: the defensive line coaches and they were, you know, saying
Speaker 2: the different scenarios that he's going to face, and they
Speaker 2: went through a snapcout and then they showed him how
Speaker 2: they what technique he wanted to use, the differences in
Speaker 2: the technique, the different types of attack at the snap
Speaker 2: of the ball. According to the specific defense called. And
Speaker 2: that's what I like most about Javon Dexter is you
Speaker 2: can't only use one type of technique against an offensive
Speaker 2: lineman or they'll eat you up. You have to use
Speaker 2: a variety of your assets, whether it's your feet, your length,
Speaker 2: your strength, your power, or your arsenal of moves. And
Speaker 2: so the more reps that he gets against NFL offensive lineman,
Speaker 2: the more he gets the studying on tape. But then
Speaker 2: some things don't surprise him so much when he has
Speaker 2: to go to an alternate move. And that's what I
Speaker 2: like about his skills and his body style and his
Speaker 2: everything being able to develop at a rapid rate. And
Speaker 2: again his arrow is pointed straight up.
Speaker 4: All right, justin fields.
Speaker 1: Last year he had that stretch when he started taking
Speaker 1: off running and the Bears put up a lot of points.
Speaker 4: Now it's through the air that it's working. Here.
Speaker 1: In the last two games, they've scored sixty eight total
Speaker 1: points and he's thrown for six hundred and seventeen yards
Speaker 1: and eight touchdowns. Do we have now a higher expectation
Speaker 1: because we show he's shown he can do exactly that well.
Speaker 2: I think that's what everybody wanted to see as great
Speaker 2: as his legs at are and his dynamic of an
Speaker 2: athlete he is. You're going to be able to survive
Speaker 2: long term in the NFL as a quarterback if you
Speaker 2: can throw the ball efficiently. And I think to me
Speaker 2: that's the most exciting element in his game because there's
Speaker 2: no denying he still has the escapability, he still has
Speaker 2: the run when they are happening to get more coverage
Speaker 2: involved in more coverages downfield, and that may open up
Speaker 2: a steam at the line of scrimmage. So justin I'm
Speaker 2: excited to see his continuous development. But this pass, this
Speaker 2: passing that he's done the last couple of weeks, big time,
Speaker 2: big time on the road, especially in Washington.
Speaker 4: Heck, get a high snap both down, went nine yards
Speaker 4: right up the middle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's good stuff. Good new Chicago. United
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Speaker 1: some wrinkles in here. Jerry is Zuma, a good buddy,
Speaker 1: the former Bears cornerback and kick return of the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl kick returner. He's a little annoyed at the league
Speaker 1: and officials and commentators who are talking about penalties when
Speaker 1: they throw purposely.
Speaker 4: A deep ball underthrow.
Speaker 1: Where the receivers got to work back and the dB
Speaker 1: doesn't turn around, and the dB gets flagged for pass interference.
Speaker 1: He says, enough with the not turning your head around.
Speaker 1: You know this is a purpose throw to get a flag.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about it? I think here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I don't You could do that on every play.
Speaker 4: You really could.
Speaker 1: You could do almost do it on every play and
Speaker 1: be flags galore. I'm kind of leaning with Jerry on
Speaker 1: this one. Tom you I you know he's a heavy
Speaker 1: penalty for that play. It's a lot of Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: made a living.
Speaker 2: Yeah he is. He is a Manda man coverage on
Speaker 2: the outside. They run a formation where he's gonna have
Speaker 2: that opportunity and then he underthrows it and you know
Speaker 2: the defensive back there. They're going to give Aaron the
Speaker 2: call every time, and they're going to call the interference
Speaker 2: and you're going to talk about a big game first
Speaker 2: down because of it.
Speaker 4: Here's the delineation. Here's the delineation. Though, so Aaron did
Speaker 4: it on purpose.
Speaker 1: Some guys just have a bad throw and you still
Speaker 1: get the benefit. So he says there should be no
Speaker 1: PI on poorly underthrown football.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be hard for You're putting too much responsibility
Speaker 2: on on the the officials to be able to make
Speaker 2: that call.
Speaker 1: And his final qu on X otherwise known as Twitter,
Speaker 1: which you've never been on DB's should be vocal about this.
Speaker 1: Start cranking it up, all right, Dante formal.
Speaker 4: Hold on, let me let.
Speaker 2: Me say one more thing. I'm tired of announcers and
Speaker 2: TV people talking how they should outlaw the Philadelphia the push.
Speaker 1: I listen the Brotherly Shove time, do you like? I
Speaker 1: love the Brotherly Shove. That is the greatest nickname you
Speaker 1: know for the city of your brother They love the
Speaker 1: Brotherly Shove.
Speaker 4: Well, the Giants said, two guys got hurt.
Speaker 2: So so what I'm just telling you get hurt on it.
Speaker 4: That's about safety.
Speaker 2: NFL football play. Are you gonna stop getting you know,
Speaker 2: vander esh last night the linebacker from Dallas got hurt
Speaker 2: into running one of his own guys. So what are
Speaker 2: you going to tell them? If you're running with your
Speaker 2: head down? The play's got to stop because you might
Speaker 2: accidentally hit your head on your own guy. It's ridiculous
Speaker 2: for these guys to sit there and clamor and pound
Speaker 2: their fist about outlawing that play. Get the heck out
Speaker 2: of here, go play the game for well.
Speaker 1: Philly certainly cornered the market on the success rate of it,
Speaker 1: that is for sure. They've got it down to a t.
Speaker 1: Bears used it twice, right, the Bears. It was twice
Speaker 1: in this game, right, yeah, twice.
Speaker 2: So if the green Bay Packers back in Vince Lobarti days,
Speaker 2: they run the green Bay sweep and they're successful at
Speaker 2: you gotta outlawed other players. Just other teams just copy
Speaker 2: it and they run a different version of it.
Speaker 1: Do you is there any aspect of it that you
Speaker 1: would be concerned about? The injuries to your interier offensive line.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of weight down those guys. You've told
Speaker 1: me before you get on a pile like that, it's
Speaker 1: pretty rough down there.
Speaker 2: What do you think the super super physical play? But
Speaker 2: every quarterback sneak is whether you're not pushing from behind
Speaker 2: if it's a quarterback sneak, because the defensive lineman they
Speaker 2: have a certain technique that they're using an offensive lineman
Speaker 2: are trying to road great amount of there. He's the
Speaker 2: only thing for all I'm doing is I'm venting because
Speaker 2: I'm tired of people complaining.
Speaker 1: Here's one thing, though, if it's isn't it true that
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to help somebody into the end zone.
Speaker 4: You can't like carry.
Speaker 2: A legal advancement, you can't like, don't William Prett. William
Speaker 2: Perry got called for once picking up Walter Payton and
Speaker 2: carry him across the line of scrimmage. That's a legal advancement.
Speaker 1: But again, two guys pushing on the quarterback from behind, right,
Speaker 1: that's okay, I mean, that's advancement. I'm not I don't
Speaker 1: like the place cool I like to play. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to play Devil's advocate here. Isn't that an illegal push?
Speaker 2: Not to me, it's it's a well designed it's a
Speaker 2: well designed efficient play to get six inches to one
Speaker 2: yard maximum. Okay, So how many times have we been
Speaker 2: frustrated over the last twenty seven years about the Bears
Speaker 2: lining up on a fourth and one, even in the
Speaker 2: first couple of games of the year and not getting it?
Speaker 2: So how can you devise a scheme that is more
Speaker 2: likely to get it.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing about that you you are, so
Speaker 1: even if it happens a few times a season, you
Speaker 1: now have projected out into your mind that the Bears
Speaker 1: haven't been good at it for years. And I told
Speaker 1: you percentages on third and fourth and one. It was
Speaker 1: like seventy five percent last season or whatever. But you
Speaker 1: know what, there's damage done from me all the years,
Speaker 1: and they add up, and so you put it in
Speaker 1: one big plump, don't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's probably getting yelled at by Dick Is saying, look,
Speaker 2: if it's whatever in one yard, we should be able
Speaker 2: to go up and tell the opponent, hey, we're getting
Speaker 2: We're going right here for one yard, and which leads
Speaker 2: me to this, and it's not an easy job.
Speaker 4: Which leads me this.
Speaker 1: Is there a third or fourth and one that you'll
Speaker 1: never forget that you didn't get and you're still mad
Speaker 1: about it? Come on, you've got stories all the time
Speaker 1: about specifics.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know. So we are playing the Dallas
Speaker 2: Cowboys in a playoff game. Maybe it was ninety one
Speaker 2: and it was fourth and one I think it was,
Speaker 2: And I didn't take a big enough step to the
Speaker 2: inside in the linebacker beat me across my shoulder and
Speaker 2: made a stop. And it was a super bad play
Speaker 2: that I can remember to this day.
Speaker 4: And you're probably glad I can't pull it up and
Speaker 4: see it.
Speaker 2: I mean I could find it.
Speaker 1: All right, quick, quick. Look at Minnesota, we touched on
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. He's not missed a game in his career.
Speaker 1: So that tells me that if he can play, he's
Speaker 1: gonna play. What else sticks out because Kirk Cousins is
Speaker 1: always getting a wrap about finishing and finishing big games.
Speaker 1: But he's a very good quarterback. He can tear you
Speaker 1: up if he gets in a rhythm. So I guess
Speaker 1: the big task don't let him get in.
Speaker 2: A rhythm, right, Yeah? That and you know no more
Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook. So do they have a game breaker? Do
Speaker 2: they have that superstar speed get If he gets to
Speaker 2: the outside, either in a carrier or a catch, he
Speaker 2: can take of the distance. So I think the Bears
Speaker 2: if they can go out there and play a real
Speaker 2: physical style of defense and they don't give up those
Speaker 2: big plays, or they don't allow Kirk Cousins to get
Speaker 2: into a comfort zone, then you get the crowd behind
Speaker 2: you at home. Maybe you can can be a little dysfunctional,
Speaker 2: and you know you can. Really the defense can help
Speaker 2: themselves and then keep the same explosiveness on the offensive
Speaker 2: side of the ball.
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Speaker 1: let Hockinson beat you too much. He's gonna get the ball.
Speaker 1: They're gonna target him. He's gonna make catches. The backs
Speaker 1: that you're referring to, Madison is a nice back. Cam
Speaker 1: Akers is there now, but at the receiver position, Jordan
Speaker 1: Addison is a good looking rookie. He's already got three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He's got nineteen catches averages thirteen yards a catch. You know,
Speaker 1: Osborne is also a guy that can hurt you a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 4: I don't know what you think of their offensive line.
Speaker 1: To me, it's like some days it's really good and
Speaker 1: some days it done looks so good.
Speaker 4: Very inconsistent, right.
Speaker 2: That's what it is. They You know they have some
Speaker 2: they have some good players up there, but as a whole,
Speaker 2: you know, they're not a sixty minute, seventeen game a
Speaker 2: year offensive line that you know that you can count
Speaker 2: on in some of the most difficult circumstances. And I
Speaker 2: do think that the Bears have a nice rotation of
Speaker 2: guys on the defensive front that are starting to gel
Speaker 2: and get better timing with each other, either individual efforts
Speaker 2: like in Gackway or some good stunts run by DeMarcus Walker,
Speaker 2: Javon Dexter. You know growing up Rasheen Graham is a
Speaker 2: good outside long rusher. So if they can keep that
Speaker 2: depth flowing, you keep them fresh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also we'll look at the defense of it. Harrison Smith
Speaker 1: always sticks. He's thirty five. Now they say he's slowing
Speaker 1: down a bit, but he's still very a part of
Speaker 1: that defense. An annoyance to the Bears over the years.
Speaker 1: And now you got to stop Daniel Hunter from Daniel
Speaker 1: Hunter can still rush the passer. But we'll get deeper
Speaker 1: in and we're gonna have fun on Thursday.
Speaker 4: I thought of this.
Speaker 1: You know, we always have either Pete bursich on or
Speaker 1: an analyst like yourself. But we're gonna have the two
Speaker 1: play by play teams, Paul Allen, who's who's a he's
Speaker 1: a fun guy, and Pete Burstich the local guy, and
Speaker 1: Tom and Jeff. We are gonna break down the game
Speaker 1: and tell partner stories because we've.
Speaker 4: Been part Is that gonna be fun. That's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2: It's either gonna be fun or I'm gonna get I
Speaker 2: have a question for you. It kind of comes from
Speaker 2: the game the other night. Yeah, and I don't get
Speaker 2: to ask you questions.
Speaker 4: Well, you always are a free too.
Speaker 2: I'm I was thinking about Stroman getting a sack and
Speaker 2: an interception in the same game. Do you know who
Speaker 2: the last player was to get a sack in an
Speaker 2: interception in the last game? And I'm surprised since they've
Speaker 2: been keeping this stat how many times this has happened
Speaker 2: by the Bears.
Speaker 1: Okay, would it be Brisker? No, No further than that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, oh like a long time ago.
Speaker 2: Then Okay, well I'll tell you because I know you
Speaker 2: won't guess it. It was Blo Nichols six twenty. But
Speaker 2: what surprises me is there's been sixteen guys to do
Speaker 2: it over since they've been keeping the Nikolkowski, Bryce Callahan,
Speaker 2: Adrian Namos, Aaron Lynch, McManus, Khalil Mack, Trevaith and Julius Peppers.
Speaker 2: In the Lovey era, Irlacker, Lance Briggs, Alex browned it
Speaker 2: at twice, also Zooma Peanut, Hunter Hill and Meyer, and
Speaker 2: Kevin Payne.
Speaker 4: So wow.
Speaker 2: The only reason I did go back and look at
Speaker 2: it because I was interested. Does it happen often? And
Speaker 2: is it? So? It's not most likely defensive.
Speaker 1: Backs, it's whole defense wide everybody. Wow, that covers all
Speaker 1: three levels. Would have never gotten the below, but now
Speaker 1: I can pictured on my head. I remember right by
Speaker 1: the goal line. I don't remember who he played, but
Speaker 1: you know, I'm always looking for that, you know, corner blitz.
Speaker 1: I love the corner blitz, so hey, just bring it.
Speaker 1: And I think Kyler Gordon could be a good blitzer
Speaker 1: in that regard. I thought Brisker may have done it
Speaker 1: already in his rookie year, but no, but he couldn't
Speaker 1: because he sacked the quarterback. I went right to Brisker,
Speaker 1: but Yeah, Peanut was great at it. But those names
Speaker 1: that you mentioned a lot of lot of defensive linemen.
Speaker 2: Aaron Lynch surprised at how many guys because Iron Lynch,
Speaker 2: I didn't think it would be a regular occurrence.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty good work.
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