WEBVTT - #888 Packers Unscripted: OTA preview, part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot com. I am Mike Spoffor, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in everything Packers, Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming

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<v Speaker 1>to you here from our studio at lambeau Field and Wes.

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<v Speaker 1>OTAs begin next week for the Green Bay Packers, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will have access to some of the OTAs over

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<v Speaker 1>the next couple weeks, not all of them, but there

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<v Speaker 1>will be a couple of open practices, which means the yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank goodness, not all of them. We don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>be there for all of these practices, but we will

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<v Speaker 1>get to see a couple of practices. We'll get some

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<v Speaker 1>locker room interviews, press conferences, all that fun stuff over

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<v Speaker 1>the next couple weeks. So here's what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to sort of preview OTAs a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what we'll be watching for, what are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to have our eyes on, and over these

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<v Speaker 1>couple episodes, I thought we could split it up. We

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<v Speaker 1>could preview the offensive side with regard to OTAs, and

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<v Speaker 1>then on our next show we'll do the defensive side.

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<v Speaker 1>So offensively heading into OTAs at this stage, what is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of on your radar at the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>list in terms of your your observational priorities.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, there's only one thing I'm gonna have my eyes

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<v Speaker 2>on offensively throughout these OTAs, and it's gonna be whoever whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>however they're lined up on the perimeter at receiver. We

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<v Speaker 2>always talk about in the past, right, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>OTAs is usually the uh it's the skill position Olympics

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of ways, right, It's it's the cornerbacks,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the defensive backs, it's the receivers. I remember there

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<v Speaker 2>was that one time, I want to say it was

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<v Speaker 2>probably twelve years ago where Mike McCarthy was even downscaling

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<v Speaker 2>how many running drills they did during OTA team periods

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<v Speaker 2>because it was like, well, you couldn't thought up, you

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't do all that type stuff. So you know, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the point of even going through the motions, right, Let's

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<v Speaker 2>get some let's get some passes out there. Yeah. But

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<v Speaker 2>more than any other position, I think you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see a significant change at the wide out because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with Romeo Dobbs, we all knew he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be moving on. I think everyone had a pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>feeling for that, and kudos to him and congratulations to

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<v Speaker 2>him for the contract that he got for the for

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots, and I think is a really good addition

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<v Speaker 2>for that offense. But the one that surprised all of

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<v Speaker 2>us was the fact that Dantavian Wicks then got traded,

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<v Speaker 2>So that made it very clear what the Packers' receiving

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<v Speaker 2>corps is going to look like, or at least who's

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<v Speaker 2>standing atop that top three on the podium with Christian Watson,

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<v Speaker 2>Jaden Reid who was recently extended, and then certainly Matthew Golden,

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<v Speaker 2>the first round pick from last year that everybody's expecting

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<v Speaker 2>to take a massive step forward now, especially with more

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<v Speaker 2>playing time in twenty twenty six. So just seeing what

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<v Speaker 2>that trifecta looks like together is going to be really

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be one of the big things. And

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<v Speaker 2>then also how many reps does Sky morget? Where is

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<v Speaker 2>bo Melton playing? Is he going to be at receiver again?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he going to be at defensive back? We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait and see and then save on Williams,

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<v Speaker 2>the third round pick from life year.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the other one I was gonna mention too,

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<v Speaker 1>because to me if if we're talking and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking a lot about Matthew Golden obviously with

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<v Speaker 1>the two veteran receivers you mentioned that are no longer here.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Savion Williams being a second year guy just

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<v Speaker 1>like Matthew Golden and you know a little obviously a

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<v Speaker 1>different body type, different skill set and whatnot. How does

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<v Speaker 1>he get worked into the offense now with really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a higher profile than he had as a rookie. And

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<v Speaker 1>also hopefully he's healthy. Same thing for Golden, because both

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys as rookies dealt with some injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and where does Savion line up? Right? We saw

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<v Speaker 2>him last year on the end a rounds, sometimes taken

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<v Speaker 2>direct snaps as a running back in the backfield and

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<v Speaker 2>some of those two RB pony looks. But then by

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<v Speaker 2>the way he showed downfield, he can make some plays

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<v Speaker 2>on the ball too. I mean it had a really

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<v Speaker 2>impressive catch radius and was responsible despite his limited workload

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<v Speaker 2>for a couple of the Packers' you know, best catches

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<v Speaker 2>of the twenty twenty five season. So yeah, as much

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<v Speaker 2>as these moves were made to clear the way for

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<v Speaker 2>or Matthew Golden and making your first round pick and

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<v Speaker 2>giving him as many opportunities as he needs to really

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<v Speaker 2>showcase his talent. Savion Williams was a third round pick

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<v Speaker 2>last year, there would have been a lot of years, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>where that third rounder might have been the Packers first

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<v Speaker 2>receiver that they took in the draft that might have

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<v Speaker 2>actually had a big role right away, like Romeo Dobbs

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<v Speaker 2>did as a fourth rounder in twenty twenty two. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when you talk about Jordan Love developing that chemistry and

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<v Speaker 2>then also the Green Bay Packers having to find their

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<v Speaker 2>offensive identity with these receivers. When you know how many

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<v Speaker 2>times I wrote about it an inbox, but you've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it too. You know, Romeo Dobbs was the go

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<v Speaker 2>to target in third down situations, in red zone situations.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's going to pick up that mantle? Now? What is

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<v Speaker 2>Jaden Reid gonna look like now? Coming back off of

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<v Speaker 2>last year and unfortunately having the collar bone issue, but

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<v Speaker 2>then being there for the stretch run and being able

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<v Speaker 2>to get into an off season relatively healthy and Honestly, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the thing that we're all going to be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about is for as good as Christian Watson looked

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<v Speaker 2>last year coming off of the ACL mid season, returning

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<v Speaker 2>to my goodness, what that young man might do now

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<v Speaker 2>entering this upcoming year with a full offseason preparation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no doubt about it. And I think for all

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<v Speaker 1>the talk about, you know, exactly how this receiving depth

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<v Speaker 1>chart lines up and whatnot, And I know Matt Lafleur

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<v Speaker 1>is not worried about the depth chart in the traditional

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<v Speaker 1>sense of things. But Christian Watson is the number one

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver on this team not only because of what

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<v Speaker 1>he's done and what he means to the offense and

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<v Speaker 1>to Jordan Love, but as we've talked about so many times,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the guy who changes how defenses line up and

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<v Speaker 1>how defenses have to prepare because he just he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he strikes fear into opponents. And that's not taking anything

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<v Speaker 1>away from Matthew Golden or Jaden Reid. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>can when you can run in the four threes and

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<v Speaker 1>you're six foot four with the catch radius that Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Watson has, that's a matchup problem. And that's where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why he's the number one wide receiver is because

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<v Speaker 1>is because of the attention defenses have to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>He kind of reminds me too of the Preston Smith

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<v Speaker 2>of the offense too, right where Presson never wore a

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<v Speaker 2>captain's letter here in Green Bay, but everybody knew he

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the leaders of that unit. So absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Tucker Craft, Josh Jacobs, Jordan Love, you have

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<v Speaker 2>some guys with some really established credentials, some very talented

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<v Speaker 2>dudes that are the heartbeat of this team. But Christian

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<v Speaker 2>Watson's there too, and I think you saw that when

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<v Speaker 2>he came back as well as he played. Also the

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<v Speaker 2>uptick that that brought, the offense, that brought the locker room.

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<v Speaker 2>It's cool when you see a guy come in as

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<v Speaker 2>a rookie in twenty twenty two and here we are

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<v Speaker 2>four years later. I mean, he is unquestionably one of

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<v Speaker 2>the big leaders on this football team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and sticking with the perimeter weapons for now, I

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<v Speaker 1>think a couple of other things. We will definitely have

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<v Speaker 1>our eyes on Number one Marshaun Lloyd and hopefully him

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<v Speaker 1>getting off to just a good start this offseason or

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<v Speaker 1>continuing through this offseason and then being able to get

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<v Speaker 1>to training camp healthy, where then when the pads go on,

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<v Speaker 1>you get in the preseason game and then and then

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<v Speaker 1>he can show what he's really about and then with

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<v Speaker 1>no Tucker Craft at tight end for now, you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about trying to get off to a good start here,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think Luke Musgrave is a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of people have their eyes on

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<v Speaker 1>because he's going to be important to this team. Whenever

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker Craft does come back. It doesn't mean that Luke

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<v Speaker 1>Musgrave just gets pushed to the side. But you know, Musgrave,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Wiley, Messiah Swinson, does the undrafted rookie R. J.

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<v Speaker 1>Maryland start to make any noise here? So those those

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<v Speaker 1>perimeter weapon positions, you know, not necessarily looking at where

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the depth chart is because we know

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<v Speaker 1>where that is. But but some guys I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are going to be counting on. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>see him put a good foot forward this spring.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and by the way, too, just one other thing

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<v Speaker 2>to keep an eye on when when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the way this football team is orientated. I was thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about this, how do you replicate you know, Tucker Craft

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<v Speaker 2>and practices and training. That's gonna be interesting. So like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly there's gonna be things tailored to to Michah Parsons

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<v Speaker 2>as well, that only Michael Parsons is gonna be able

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<v Speaker 2>to do. But Tucker Craft plays not only that position,

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<v Speaker 2>so much differently than the rest of that group. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no one like him on the football team. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you saw that stat. I guess it was

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<v Speaker 2>more of a chart on social media the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days, but showing like one of those like separations

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<v Speaker 2>of all the tight ends of the National Football League

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<v Speaker 2>and just kind of throwing them in different quadrants for productivity,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, they're they touch the ball. Tucker Craft like

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<v Speaker 2>was I think he was like maybe three or four

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<v Speaker 2>yards out in his route when he was touching the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>and just his yards overall. Yeah, compared to the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the National Football The guys in a league of

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<v Speaker 2>his own in that regard. But you know that's still

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<v Speaker 2>being said to your point about Musgrave and the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of that group. It's gonna be guys for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities for them to get chances. Packers are still gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be looking to identify an in line tight end or

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<v Speaker 2>if they're gonna have to go with the six offensive

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<v Speaker 2>lineman again like they did last year with Darien Kinnard

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<v Speaker 2>some questions there for green bit answer, but certainly, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that's gonna be the conversation. Maybe not so much

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<v Speaker 2>for ot as a mini camp, especially when we get

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<v Speaker 2>to training camp every single day when you and I

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<v Speaker 2>walk out there doing that you know, checklist, taking attendance

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<v Speaker 2>and then just kind of waiting to see, Hey, when

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<v Speaker 2>is the day gonna come. If it's in training camp,

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<v Speaker 2>whenever it happens, or if it ends up being a

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<v Speaker 2>pup the start season, that is going to be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the big things that I think all of us

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be tracking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, OTAs will also give us our first look

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<v Speaker 1>at Tarad Taylor, the new number two quarterback of the

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen year veteran who has been brought in now to

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<v Speaker 1>back up Jordan Love, and we'll see just how much

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<v Speaker 1>you know of the eleven on eleven he gets and

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<v Speaker 1>whatnot with having recently arrived and there's a lot to process.

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<v Speaker 1>But by the same token, he's been there and done

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<v Speaker 1>that when it comes to learning offenses and getting himself prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm you know, I'll be curious just to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to see him for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if you do this at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I do this. This is one of the things I've

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<v Speaker 2>started the last few years is when the pack now

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<v Speaker 2>that the Packers do sign free agents a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more frequently than when I first started covering the team,

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<v Speaker 2>going back and watching the locker room interviews of these

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<v Speaker 2>guys who are coming in, and my goodness, is ty

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<v Speaker 2>Red Taylor just an impressive human being. I mean, his

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<v Speaker 2>resume speaks for itself. When you play sixteen years in

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<v Speaker 2>this league, I don't care if you're the first overall

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<v Speaker 2>pick or a six rounder one seventy nine right in

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<v Speaker 2>front of Caleb Schlaberhoff like Taylor was in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>But just the way that he speaks, you can tell.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought it was such a great comment. I

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<v Speaker 2>wrote the story last week, but that comment from Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Vrabel about he is a leader of men like this

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<v Speaker 2>is a guy that was born to be a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just really excited and intrigued about the idea, too,

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<v Speaker 2>of bringing in a guy that has that much experience

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<v Speaker 2>has played you know what, It'll end up being nine

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<v Speaker 2>more seasons in the NFL right now than Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 2>and what that perspective can do for love. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan is who he is as a quarterback, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to keep growing in terms of what he does.

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<v Speaker 2>But having a resource like that during the week of

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<v Speaker 2>preparation in the meeting room on the sideline, Yeah, just

0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:07.440
<v Speaker 2>having someone you can turn to. I mean, how often

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<v Speaker 2>did we hear about Aaron Rodgers talking about what it

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<v Speaker 2>meant to him to have a Matt Flynn that he

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<v Speaker 2>could bounce ideas off of Scott Tolzen. These guys that

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<v Speaker 2>really become a sounding board for NFL starting quarterbacks. And

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor also, pretty much every year of his career has

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<v Speaker 2>also started at least one game, so to have sixty

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<v Speaker 2>two starts under his belt and now bringing all that

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<v Speaker 2>experience to Green Bay now, I talk about it all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. Man, you need a couple of those guys

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<v Speaker 2>on your team. You needed a Mercedes Lewis at the

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<v Speaker 2>turn of you know, twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Tyrod Taylor, I think, you know, we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it on next the next show. But Javon Hargrive, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>these are the type of guys that when you have

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<v Speaker 2>young dudes at twenty two, twenty three, twenty four years old,

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<v Speaker 2>that are coming in your locker room, doesn't matter about

0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.760
<v Speaker 2>what the position they play. Sure that is an invaluable

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<v Speaker 2>resource for those guys to be able to lean on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I mean it. You know, I can't he

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<v Speaker 1>can't even think of the last time the Packers had

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<v Speaker 1>a backup quarterback as that sounding board that you mention,

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<v Speaker 1>who's got over sixty starts in the NFL. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it literally goes back to Jim McMahon. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for somebody that has that, Yeah, that much of a

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<v Speaker 2>pedigree and that much credential.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's going to be invaluable. I think for for

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan love Is his has his arrow continues to point up.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd be remissive we didn't mention a couple things in

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<v Speaker 1>the trenches, even though there's no pads during OTAs, the

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<v Speaker 1>pass blocking and the run blocking and whatever is not

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<v Speaker 1>real blocking because.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jordan Morgan is taking over at left tackle, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's something to keep an eye on. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing we always look as reporters, we always look

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<v Speaker 1>for the opportunities to get an idea of kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with the depth chart. Right, And the

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<v Speaker 1>depth chart can always change in OTAs it can change

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<v Speaker 1>day to day in training camp, it can change day

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<v Speaker 1>to day, and it means a lot more in training

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<v Speaker 1>camp than it does right now. But assuming Zach Tom

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to be at right tackles as he

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<v Speaker 1>continues to recover from his off season knee surgery, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be curious to see, Okay, who's running with the ones

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<v Speaker 1>at right tackle. Is it gonna be Darien Kinnard, Is

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<v Speaker 1>it going to be Travis Glover? Is there someone else

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<v Speaker 1>who's who's in the mix there? As the Packers figure

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<v Speaker 1>out their depth at at offensive tackle. That's definitely something

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<v Speaker 1>to watch for as Zach Tom continues to heal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny the other four spots. It's all about

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<v Speaker 2>guys settling in right. I mean Aaron Banks already is

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<v Speaker 2>settled in, But I mean Jordan Morgan, Okay, you're the

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<v Speaker 2>left tackle now, right, Sean Ryan, Hey, you're the center now. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Belton, who wasn't even playing right guard a year

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<v Speaker 2>ago at this time, you are the right guard now?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's going to be that next man up? And and honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>the most proven depth in terms of the bodies really

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<v Speaker 2>is on the interior. So it does go back to

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<v Speaker 2>Darian Canard, it goes back to Glover in some of

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<v Speaker 2>these other guys that that are going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>part of that conversation, and it's gonna be a massive

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity too, because we saw last year, Mike the domino

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<v Speaker 2>effect of losing Zach Tom in what that meant in

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<v Speaker 2>the weekly preparation and especially with what we saw in

0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.839
<v Speaker 2>game day, there was always this hope, right we saw

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<v Speaker 2>him practice, he'd get some reps. Then we're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thinking out coming out of that Denver game, Okay, maybe

0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Zach Tom's gonna be okay, maybe he'll be available for

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<v Speaker 2>a playoff run. Ultimately he wasn't. So now the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>get a chance to look at the other side of that,

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<v Speaker 2>because as much as we talk about it, and as

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<v Speaker 2>much as the Packers value the versatility of offensive linemen,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a reason why for many years the Packers had

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<v Speaker 2>designated guys as Okay, well, if Corey Lensley isn't available,

0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.720
<v Speaker 2>it's j C. Tredder. If j C. Tredder isn't available,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Corey Lensley right right tackle. It was Don Barclay

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<v Speaker 2>behind Brian Bloga. I mean, they just they knew who

0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.240
<v Speaker 2>that next man up was going to be. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think a byproduct of the Packers just having so many

0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.120
<v Speaker 2>offensive linemen that they've added over the last few years,

0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.600
<v Speaker 2>they have it through the draft. Mainly there hasn't been

0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:54.600
<v Speaker 2>like that designated guy other than maybe Morgan behind Rashid Walker.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's gonna be It'll be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 2>how that plays out. But certainly, when we're talking, you

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<v Speaker 2>know about the top five to eight players on this

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<v Speaker 2>football team, you know number fifty is one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, another piece of big news in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Packers unscripted wes big news here in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. It's official. Aaron Rodgers is back with the

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Steelers, is back with Mike McCarthy, and has announced

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<v Speaker 1>officially that this is it. To use his words, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six will be the last season for the future

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<v Speaker 1>first ballot Hall of Fame quarterback. Just your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>how just kind of how how this happened, and in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, how cool it is for the league that

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy are are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>together for one more season. I think it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's awesome. I think it's great for the league.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the way you saw them even schedule the

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<v Speaker 2>team out the last two years, whether it was how

0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:12.000
<v Speaker 2>they had made sure the Packers and Steelers were in

0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.800
<v Speaker 2>primetime last year before we even knew if Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna end up with Pittsburgh. But they're like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, that's worth putting a chip on that one, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it'll end up working out to even this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're going to Ireland, right, and they have

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<v Speaker 2>some other real big primetime games that are scheduled in

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<v Speaker 2>international games. This is what the game's all about. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've got a chance to see

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<v Speaker 2>the board as far as how it looks right now

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<v Speaker 2>for NFL quarterbacks and longevity. But Aaron Rodgers is on

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<v Speaker 2>an island by himself now, especially since I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>Philip Rivers is finally retired. I mean he is. It's him,

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<v Speaker 2>and then honestly, it switches over to like Joe Flacco, Johnson,

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<v Speaker 2>all these other guys that are in like that, Matthew

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<v Speaker 2>Stafford twenty eight, twenty oh nine, Yeah, twenty eleven, draft claps,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's Aaron Rodgers. I've reminded. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you've ever seen the movie Eternal Sunshine of the

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<v Speaker 2>Spotless Mind have not great movie, by the way, two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and four Focused Films Focus Features with Jim Carrey

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<v Speaker 2>and Kate Winslet, and there's a line in the at

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<v Speaker 2>near the end of the movie of this is it Joel,

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<v Speaker 2>what are we gonna do? And he looks at her

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<v Speaker 2>and he just says, enjoy it. And that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm at. Twenty two seasons. In some shape or form,

0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers has been attached to the Green Bay Packers,

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<v Speaker 2>whether he's playing here or not. And that's really my

0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.359
<v Speaker 2>challenge for Packer fans out there. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the point of what I wrote an Insider inbox on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>was that this is the guy that authored so many

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<v Speaker 2>incredible stories that we're going to pass down to our children,

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<v Speaker 2>our grandchildren. People are gonna be talking about those moments

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<v Speaker 2>in local bars and establishments and vfw's for the next

0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:57.680
<v Speaker 2>forty fifty years. And I wasn't around to see bart star, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but I got to hear my grandfather talk about him.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, that's there's so much passion, there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much energy, there's so much emotion tied into the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>in the present day. But if you can just take

0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.920
<v Speaker 2>that out for a second, take out how things ended

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<v Speaker 2>with green Bay, take out how the reconciliation happened with

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay, and just appreciate that for a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>you cheered on for so long, for a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>you wore his number on your back, we all get

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to watch him play some football every now

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<v Speaker 2>and then in Pittsburgh this season, and I think that's special.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was really I was another conversation I had

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<v Speaker 2>this morning on my way into work. I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>my buddy Scott about this. It didn't even compute my

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<v Speaker 2>head that Aaron Rodgers is gonna be forty three years

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<v Speaker 2>old this December.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, December, he turns for forty three. Yeah, how quick

0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.199
<v Speaker 1>that goes by that. That's the part that you know

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<v Speaker 1>you have to take a step back a minute and

0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:54.520
<v Speaker 1>process because you know, Matthew Stafford is put together a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous career obviously with the Lions and the Rams, and

0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.399
<v Speaker 1>it feels like he's been around forever. Matthew Stafford was

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<v Speaker 1>drafted four years after Aaron Rodgers. Now Rogers didn't become

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<v Speaker 1>a starter until two thousand and eight, and then Stafford

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<v Speaker 1>was drafted in nine and he was a starter right

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<v Speaker 1>away as the number one overall pick for Detroit. But

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<v Speaker 1>you think about that, and it's it's mind boggling to

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<v Speaker 1>a certain extent. I am glad that Aaron Rodgers' last

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<v Speaker 1>NFL pass is not going to be the pick six

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the playoff game against Houston. I

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<v Speaker 1>am hoping that that playoff game against Houston is not

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<v Speaker 1>his last playoff game. I would like to see Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers with whatever the result ends up being. I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to see Aaron Rodgers get another shot in the

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<v Speaker 1>postseason with Mike McCarthy as as head coach and just

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. Now just getting there from the AFC North,

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<v Speaker 1>when you've got Lamar Jackson and the Ravens, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>got Joe Burrow and the Bengals, and you know those

0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.359
<v Speaker 1>guys are standing in your way just to get into

0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs first. Nice, you know, let alone make any

0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:08.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of noise. But yeah, it's I'm glad he's not

0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad he's not done yet. And I'm definitely going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to set aside some time and maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have more because of all these Thursday and Wednesday games

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<v Speaker 1>and all this that you and I are going to

0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.560
<v Speaker 1>be covering for the Packers, maybe we'll actually have some

0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.359
<v Speaker 1>more time on the weekends to watch Aaron Rodgers play

0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.640
<v Speaker 1>for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And it's certainly something I look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to.

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<v Speaker 2>And he touched on it in his press conference with

0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.879
<v Speaker 2>the Pittsburgh media this week too. But the chance to

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<v Speaker 2>go full circle now with Mike McCarthy, I think is important. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You talked about how you're happy that his NFL career

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't end on a pick six. I'm happy that his

0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.600
<v Speaker 2>run with Mike McCarthy doesn't just end how things ended

0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.840
<v Speaker 2>in twenty eighteen. This is a chance to kind of

0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.240
<v Speaker 2>bring those bridges back together. I think it's that mend

0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:57.119
<v Speaker 2>has already happened, but for them to be a part

0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.240
<v Speaker 2>for it's crazy how quickly again this moves Mike for

0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:00.679
<v Speaker 2>them to be apart for as long as they have

0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:02.840
<v Speaker 2>been now. Mike ended up going to be becoming the

0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.000
<v Speaker 2>head coach of the Dallas Cups for five years. Aaron

0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.199
<v Speaker 2>ended up obviously having the success that he did in

0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay, two more MVP awards, goes to New York,

0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:14.399
<v Speaker 2>and now they come back together at this juncture of

0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.440
<v Speaker 2>their careers. I think, I don't I would believe this

0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:20.119
<v Speaker 2>would probably be Mike McCarthy's last job in the National

0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Football League. For him to be able to start that

0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.399
<v Speaker 2>with Aaron Rodgers, it just feels like the passing of

0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.960
<v Speaker 2>the torch that needed to happen, and for Rogers to

0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:31.240
<v Speaker 2>extend that olive branch. I don't think he gets nearly

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<v Speaker 2>enough credit. I think it'll come up in years to come.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he gets nearly enough credit for the

0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:38.199
<v Speaker 2>work he did with Jordan Love. Certainly, Matt Lafleur his

0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:41.679
<v Speaker 2>coaches they developed Love the quarterback. But to give Jordan

0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.560
<v Speaker 2>that type of education in the way and his openness

0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.360
<v Speaker 2>with him, that is a part of Aaron Rodgers legacy too,

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<v Speaker 2>So now he gets a chance to do that with

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<v Speaker 2>those young qbs in Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they've got they've got a couple of them. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got both Will Howard and Drew Aller, the new draft

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<v Speaker 1>pick from Penn State. I'm really curious to see just

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<v Speaker 1>how Aaron Rodgers plays this year, because yes, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>year older, but he's also just another full year removed

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<v Speaker 1>from that Achilles injury. You know. Now, he obviously was

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<v Speaker 1>much more mobile last season than he was his first

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<v Speaker 1>year back from the Achilles. But you just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you wonder sometimes, you know, in the age part of things,

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<v Speaker 1>that if you do put a little more distance between

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<v Speaker 1>where you are and when that injury occurred, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's you know, maybe he's gonna be in even

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<v Speaker 1>better shape, in better position physically than he was last year.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's gonna have better resources to around him, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>with Michael Pittman out there. But then just look at

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the end of that season for Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great that they did make the playoffs. Super

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<v Speaker 2>dramatic ending to the regular season, right, that was wild,

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<v Speaker 2>But that offense really sort of reminded me a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the twenty fifteen Packers where so many guys were out,

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus Veldez, Scantlin gets signed off the street, He's turned

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<v Speaker 2>into one of his main receivers. There were just so

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<v Speaker 2>much that was kind of working against them at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of that year, and Rodgers even talked about he

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<v Speaker 2>had broken bones in his hand and his wrists and

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<v Speaker 2>he just had to keep plugging along. And that also

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<v Speaker 2>does it increases the risk factor for this season because

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<v Speaker 2>there is no encore. I mean, there there is no

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<v Speaker 2>second act. I mean Aaron Rodgers. Every time he steps

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<v Speaker 2>out there, this is it. So yeah, it feels it

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<v Speaker 2>almost makes it feel like it's not just the playoffs

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<v Speaker 2>where it's one and done. It's every single game this

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<v Speaker 2>year is going to have huge implications for him and

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<v Speaker 2>how this last stage of his career is going to

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<v Speaker 2>play out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's easy to forget. And I didn't even mention

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<v Speaker 1>it because I didn't think of it in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But the wrist injury that he dealt with last year

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<v Speaker 1>and that that he played through and and whatnot, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's now, you know, further removed from that, so and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously just he'll have all the motivation in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's he's decided, you know, this is it? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So here we go, and I should also mention this

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<v Speaker 2>too as we close out. It's not just Mike. He's

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<v Speaker 2>playing for either, right. He talked about James Camp and

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<v Speaker 2>it's on that staff. It's these guys that he grew

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<v Speaker 2>up with. Mark Levatt, the strength and condition coach who

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<v Speaker 2>was here when he got to Green Bay in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>oh five. Grant Thorn is on that staff. Joe Witt

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<v Speaker 2>is on the defensive side of the staff, Patrick Graham.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike brought together a lot of his former coaches from

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<v Speaker 2>different parts of his time in Green Bay, and Rodgers

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<v Speaker 2>has a relationship with all of them. So, yeah, it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be interesting to see this. This feels like the proper reducts, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt like the Jets one was sort of forced.

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<v Speaker 2>They're signing guys, they're doing all these type of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Nathaniel Hackett comes in his offensive corner. This one really

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<v Speaker 2>feels like it's Mike McCarthy putting together his coaching tree

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<v Speaker 2>back together, bringing the band back together, and now Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>Rodgers being a part of that equation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna be fun to watch I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just another great storyline in what I think is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a season full of them all across the

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<v Speaker 1>board in the NFL. But with that, we're gonna call

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<v Speaker 1>it a rap on this edition of Packers Script. Be

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<v Speaker 1>sure to follow all of our coverage of the team

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<v Speaker 1>on Packers dot com. On our next show early next

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<v Speaker 1>week after the holiday, we will preview the defensive side

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<v Speaker 1>of things for OTAs and then maybe sometime next week

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<v Speaker 1>Wes and I'll be out there watching a practice and

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<v Speaker 1>getting some interviews and all that. So until then, for Wes,

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<v Speaker 1>I and Mike, thank you for tuning in. Everybody. We

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<v Speaker 1>will see you next time.