WEBVTT - What Are Quantum Fields?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Daniel, you know how in science fictions are all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of fields. You mean like big expansive lawns. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like force fields or energy fields. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you know none of that is real, right? What the

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<v Speaker 1>force from Star Wars is not real? None of it. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>none of that is real. Wait? Wait, what about like

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<v Speaker 1>energy fields? Those are real? Right? Energy fields are not real.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's something that's even weird or even cooler that

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<v Speaker 1>is real. Wait, cooler than star wars. Cooler than star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars are quantum fields. And that's a thing that is

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<v Speaker 1>real and is everywhere in the universe. I don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just made it up. We physicists did,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, invent quantum fields. But it turns out because

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<v Speaker 1>it accurately predicts what happens in the universe, it might

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<v Speaker 1>just be real. Is that like field of dream Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you think of it, people will believe it. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>quantum fields of quantum dreams. That's basically what being a

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<v Speaker 1>physicist is all about, having quantum dreams. And you're the

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Costner in the situation him and I'm Daniel, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to our podcast. Daniel and Jorge explain the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Daniel and Jorge. This is the podcast you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for exactly um. Yeah. On this podcast, we try

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you about everything in the universe. Things

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<v Speaker 1>that are big, things that are small, things that are

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<v Speaker 1>invisible but fill the entire universe, things that are everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>things you had no idea existed, but determine everything about

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<v Speaker 1>your existence that's right. Today on the podcast, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about quantum fields. What are they? Where are they? Who

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<v Speaker 1>are they? What are they good for? Absolutely nothing? Say

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<v Speaker 1>it again. Is it's just a family whose last name

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<v Speaker 1>is field, or it's a bunch of discrete playing fields

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere quantum fields, you're gonna have one field, you can

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<v Speaker 1>have two fields. You can't have two and a half fields.

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<v Speaker 1>They're quantized, but once you enter, you don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>where you're going or where you are now. A quantum

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<v Speaker 1>field theory is something you hear about, you might have heard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's part of modern physics. It's a theory that people

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<v Speaker 1>use to do calculations. It's really awesome, it's impressive. But

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<v Speaker 1>what isn't What is a quantum field? What is the

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<v Speaker 1>theory of quantum fields? What relationship does that have to

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<v Speaker 1>you or the rest of your life or anything at all. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more than just a part of modern physics. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the foundation of our theory about the universe. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. It's kind of like the language of physics currently.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's quantum field theory is to modern physics

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<v Speaker 1>the way like English is to Shakespeare. You know. We

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<v Speaker 1>use the tools of quantum field theory to try to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what's going on in the universe, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>remarkably successful. It's incredibly successful. When you guys want to

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<v Speaker 1>use pig latin, I thought that was the We only

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<v Speaker 1>do that when you come by, Jorge to try to

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<v Speaker 1>confuse you. Um. But it's like the foundation of modern physics.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also super duper accurate. Like you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure is it the right way to describe the universe? Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>on one hand, it's super duper accurate. Like we can

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<v Speaker 1>predict the way particles interact with fields, and we can

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<v Speaker 1>make predictions out to lots of decimal places, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we can go out and measure how those particles interact

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<v Speaker 1>with the fields, and it turns out those predictions are

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<v Speaker 1>correct to like one in millions and millions. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have, on one hand, like a theoretical calculation that

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<v Speaker 1>you've written downs is like an idea that predicts an experiment,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you go out and you check it with

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<v Speaker 1>a super precise experiment and get the same answer, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's so accurate that you think maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>is the true story of the universe. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>like human ideas. This is like revealing the source code

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. So you're pretty close to saying quantum

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<v Speaker 1>fields are true. They're they're like the truth of the universe. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's except that we also know they can't be the

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<v Speaker 1>final answer. Oh yeah, well well we'll get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will admit I don't have a clear idea

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<v Speaker 1>of what a quantum field is um and we were

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<v Speaker 1>wondering how many of you out there had some ideas

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<v Speaker 1>about what it would be. So, as usual, I walked

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<v Speaker 1>around the u C Irvine campus and I asked a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of very friendly, very accommentating, very willing to answer

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<v Speaker 1>random questions you see, Irvine undergrads, and I asked them

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<v Speaker 1>what is quantum field theory? Here's what people had to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea, but I have heard of before.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Um, it's probably really to quantum mechanics UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure exactly what it is, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it describes the different factor of fields that you use

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<v Speaker 1>in quantum mechanics. UM. Maybe the way cell atomic particles

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<v Speaker 1>instracted with one another cool um, similar to quantum mechanics chemistry.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is, but I've heard of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something to do with general relativity. Is it trying

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<v Speaker 1>to marry that together with quantum theory? Are the waves

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<v Speaker 1>involved and residents of particles? Something like that? Maybe? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty pretty good answers. I feel like, though the

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<v Speaker 1>word quantum just give it away, you know, asked what

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<v Speaker 1>is the quantum Google book, you can just say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's related to quantum particles, right, and you

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<v Speaker 1>would be sort of right, yeah, but that's not really

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<v Speaker 1>an answer, right, you know. Um? And and we know

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<v Speaker 1>one of those answers is actually not from a UC

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<v Speaker 1>Irvine undergraduate. That's from a fellow who wrote in and

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<v Speaker 1>said that he was disappointed with the quality of the

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<v Speaker 1>answers that the undergrads were giving. He thought he could

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<v Speaker 1>do better. So I said, all right, here's the next

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<v Speaker 1>question from the next podcast. Don't do any research and

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<v Speaker 1>record your answer. And he wrote back a very humbled

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<v Speaker 1>email and he said, Okay, you're right. It's harder than

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was, but he was still willing to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, so I thought that was totally awesome. So

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<v Speaker 1>he sent us. He sent us his description of quantum

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<v Speaker 1>field theory. Do you think that we think in society

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<v Speaker 1>today we think for smarter than we are because we

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<v Speaker 1>have Google at our fingertips. You know, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you know everything because we kind of do. If we

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<v Speaker 1>just give us a second to tap it on our phones,

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<v Speaker 1>it's easier to access information. But sometimes that makes me

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<v Speaker 1>feel less smart because I feel like I have less

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<v Speaker 1>information actually in my head and I'm relying more and

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<v Speaker 1>more on these facilities that are outside my brain. You

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<v Speaker 1>know this, Even though the cognitive connection between me and

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<v Speaker 1>Google keeps increasing, I don't feel like that makes me smarter.

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<v Speaker 1>It just makes me plus Google smarter. What what about

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<v Speaker 1>the day that you get you connect your phone through

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<v Speaker 1>your brain or something, then you're sort of technically as

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<v Speaker 1>smart as Google. The day that I become Google. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the singularity, the Google's singularity. Yeah, we all connect our brains,

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<v Speaker 1>we all become one mega consciousness. The Google were smoking

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<v Speaker 1>over there today, Jorge, I want some pass that over.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the googlarity, the Google larity. I look forward to that.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, we know they're related to quantum theory, quantum

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<v Speaker 1>field um. So let's let's let's break it down. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, what is a field to a physicist? Right? So,

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<v Speaker 1>a field is just it's like a fluid that feels

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<v Speaker 1>all of space. It's like it's something that's everywhere and

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere in space. You have a number, right, And it

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<v Speaker 1>comes from things like the electromagnetic field. People were puzzling

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred years or so ago, like how do to

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<v Speaker 1>magnets push each other apart without touching? Right? There was

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<v Speaker 1>this action at a distance mystery like that's sort of spooky,

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<v Speaker 1>like a yeah, right are they? How are they actually

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<v Speaker 1>pushing each other apart? You know? And this really puzzled

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<v Speaker 1>physicists for a while, and they came up with this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of a field, the idea that each magnet has

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<v Speaker 1>a magnetic field. It's this invisible thing that surrounds it,

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<v Speaker 1>which will push on any other magnet that enters that

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic field. Right, and the magnetic field is strongest near

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<v Speaker 1>the source of the magnet and then it drops off

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<v Speaker 1>just as you would expect because the magnet super far

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<v Speaker 1>away won't feel anything. And just came because they noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that how one magnet pulls or pushes on another sort

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<v Speaker 1>of depends on where you put them relative to each other, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like where you put it around the other other one,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. And so they came up they said, well, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe every magnet generates in space this invisible thing. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>call it a magnetic field, and that's the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>does the pushing. And sort of a mystery that came

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<v Speaker 1>up immediately was like is the field a real thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it actually they're a physical thing that's that exists

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<v Speaker 1>in the universe, Like does it have substance and can

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<v Speaker 1>you play baseball on it? Or is it just a

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<v Speaker 1>way that we calculate things, you know, just like a

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<v Speaker 1>tool in our minds to help us understand things, Like

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<v Speaker 1>is it a thing like you said, it could be

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<v Speaker 1>like a fluid, or it could just be like a

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<v Speaker 1>mathematical construct exactly exactly. And that's the questions people are

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<v Speaker 1>still grappling with, right. One philosophical problem was how can

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<v Speaker 1>things that are not touching push and pull on each other?

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<v Speaker 1>And they answer that with okay, we just invent fields

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Now the question is our fields a real

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<v Speaker 1>thing or are they something else? You know, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>joy of philosophies that every time you answer a question,

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<v Speaker 1>it just creates another question which is just as deep.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do you mean by a field is like

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<v Speaker 1>a number? Because the way I learned about it in

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<v Speaker 1>engineering is that a field is basically something that gives

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<v Speaker 1>you a number depending on where you stand or where

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<v Speaker 1>you are in space. That's right, Every point in space

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<v Speaker 1>has a number associated with it with each field. So

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<v Speaker 1>for example, the magnetic field from a magnet, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>strength of that field. There's a field strength and every location.

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<v Speaker 1>So as you're saying, you can ask what is the

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<v Speaker 1>field strength here right next to the magnet and you

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<v Speaker 1>get a number. What is the field strength way over there,

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<v Speaker 1>far away from the magnet, and you get a smaller number.

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<v Speaker 1>So the magnetic fiel field has a number at every

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<v Speaker 1>point in space. And you can have different kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>fields you can feel that just have a number. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are called scale or fields. That's just a fancy way

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<v Speaker 1>of saying a number, or you can have vector fields.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have a field where at every point you

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<v Speaker 1>have an arrow that points in a certain direction. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of like, are you saying it's a field

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of like a map, like it tells you

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<v Speaker 1>what is it every position in space? Yeah? Or a

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<v Speaker 1>map is kind of like a field actually, um, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can think of for like a map is

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<v Speaker 1>how much magnetic field is there here? How much magnetic

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<v Speaker 1>field is there there? And you know everywhere in space

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<v Speaker 1>there is magnetic field and easither you're strong or it's weak. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it can be if you're talking about like ordinary classical

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<v Speaker 1>fields like from a hundred and fifty years ago, then

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<v Speaker 1>they can be zero. Right, No magnets means there's a

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<v Speaker 1>field there, but the field value is zero. So the

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<v Speaker 1>question is is a field just like a map that

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<v Speaker 1>we hold in our hands it tells these things? Or

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<v Speaker 1>are we actually living on a map? Right? Like is

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<v Speaker 1>a field a real thing of substance? Yeah? And the

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<v Speaker 1>answer that question is we have no idea. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a philosophical question more than a scientific one. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a calculational tool a field that lets

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<v Speaker 1>you predict the outcome of experiments and that works really

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<v Speaker 1>really well. Doesn't matter if it's really physically true the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's happening, um or just or just a the

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<v Speaker 1>way do you do these calculations? What's the difference? Right? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if we weren't here with those fields exist, right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not really a question you can answer because if

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't here, there'd be nobody to answer the question

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<v Speaker 1>or do the experiment, right. So they're really tricky little

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<v Speaker 1>philosophical puzzles. And that's a whole area of philosophical exploration

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm totally not qualified to talk about, but I

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<v Speaker 1>often do anyway that do. That's the basis of our

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<v Speaker 1>entire podcast. That's the field of our podcast. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a huge conflict between philosophers of science and physicists

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<v Speaker 1>who think there's philosophers of science and spout off glibly

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes um an uninformed way in front of mass audiences

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<v Speaker 1>and then get taken down by actual philosophers of science.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a common mistake to make, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to put that qualifier out there. In the

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<v Speaker 1>world economic war kind of between the pilosophers and physicists

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<v Speaker 1>who venture into philosophy. Yes, exactly, exactly right. And there

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<v Speaker 1>are some physicists who really have learned about philosophy and

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<v Speaker 1>can speak knowledgeably about it. And then there are others

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<v Speaker 1>who think they can speak knowledge of me about it

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<v Speaker 1>but don't actually know anything. It sounds like an exciting fight,

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<v Speaker 1>ironically speaking. All right, so, um, so that's a field.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what it is. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a map of space that tells you something. Um, And

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<v Speaker 1>then you can have particles in these fields, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>a particle is part of the field, or something can

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<v Speaker 1>be on the field. Yes. One of the most interesting

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<v Speaker 1>thing about field theories or theories of fields is it

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<v Speaker 1>tells you that particles are not the most basic thing

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<v Speaker 1>in the universe. The particles are, in fact, just vibrations

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<v Speaker 1>of the field. Like particles are a real thing. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>We feel them, we see them, we are them. But

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<v Speaker 1>this tells us what they where they come from? Right

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<v Speaker 1>the rules. It tells us that if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>understand how particles move, you really have to understand these fields,

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<v Speaker 1>because the particles are just vibrations in those fields, but

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<v Speaker 1>vibrations of what of the fields? Right, Like the fields

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<v Speaker 1>are you know, a thing and they vibrate, which means

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<v Speaker 1>they have energy, right, and localized excitations of these fields. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine for example, a big rubber sheet that fills the

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<v Speaker 1>universe right, totally flat, but you could um poke it

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<v Speaker 1>and send a wave through it, right, and that wave

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<v Speaker 1>can travel. It's energy that's traveling by oscillating this field.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what particles are. There are oscillations in fields.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I poke a sheet, it'll sort of dissipate,

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<v Speaker 1>It'll go outwards and dissipate. A particle kind of likes

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in one place. Well, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>particles like. You've done any interviews with particles, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can um, there's lots of waste of vibrated sheet, right,

0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you can vibrted sheet, so you get a localized packet

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<v Speaker 1>that's traveling. Right. It's easier to think about, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>in one dimension, like instead of a sheet, think of

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<v Speaker 1>a rope. Like if I'm holding a rope and you're

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<v Speaker 1>holding a rope, I can wiggle it to send you

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<v Speaker 1>like a little wiggle along the rope, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>get a message. Right, And you're saying a particle is

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<v Speaker 1>one of these wiggles. A particle is a localized excitation

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<v Speaker 1>of the quantum field exactly. And the crazy thing is

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<v Speaker 1>every particle has its own field. So like in the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere there's an electron field, and everywhere there's an electron

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<v Speaker 1>that's the electron field wiggling, wiggling, And there's also a

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<v Speaker 1>um cork field, right, an upcork field. Everywhere there's an

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<v Speaker 1>upcork The upcork field is wiggling. Like a particle is

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<v Speaker 1>something that's causing the field to vibrate or it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it is the vibration of the field. It is the

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<v Speaker 1>vibration exactly, That's what it is. Yeah, And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we're all made out of. Like you and I

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<v Speaker 1>are made out of protons and quirks and electrons, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we're all just like massive collections of little vibrations.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. It's all actually vibrations. Man, those dudes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a vibrations were everything they were right in exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for if you like to think of yourself

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<v Speaker 1>as made of particles, and you wonder like, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>are the particles made out of? Right, I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>might be made out of smaller and smaller particles. But

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<v Speaker 1>at some point you get down to the smallest particle

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<v Speaker 1>and what's that particle made out of? And you think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>universe stuff. Well, it turns out the universe stuff might

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<v Speaker 1>be quantum fields, right, that it's the quantum fields that

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<v Speaker 1>are oscillating that make a particle. Okay, So that's a

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<v Speaker 1>definition of a quantum field. It's it's the stuff of

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<v Speaker 1>the universe. We're done. Yeah, So a field is just

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<v Speaker 1>like a fluid field space. It could doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>become quantum. It could be like electromagnetic or in any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of field. But a quantum field is a field

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<v Speaker 1>that describes the motion of a quantum object, like a particle.

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<v Speaker 1>And so since we're dealing with particles and they move

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<v Speaker 1>really fast and they have quantum entical properties, we deal

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<v Speaker 1>with quantum fields. Okay, So a quantum field is what

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<v Speaker 1>describes the things that we're made out of, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>we're all made out of quantum particles, that's right, And

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<v Speaker 1>every particle that makes us up is actually just a

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<v Speaker 1>vibration of one of those fields, you know. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a really different way to look at the universe. Like

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<v Speaker 1>when physicists started and they were thinking about quantum mechanics.

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<v Speaker 1>They were thinking about, like what happens to a particle?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, what is this electron story? It starts

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<v Speaker 1>off over here and then it goes off over there.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the way we're used to do in physics, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you think about a ball, what happens to this

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<v Speaker 1>ball as it rolls down the hill. It's very natural

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of follow the story of the ball. So

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<v Speaker 1>we tried to do that with us, follow the story.

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<v Speaker 1>The electron problem is quantum particles don't behave like that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they don't have a path, right, It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>you're here and then you're here and then you're here.

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<v Speaker 1>Is all this uncertainty, But more than that, they're being

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed and created all the time. Like an electron doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>just fly through space. It flies through space, it turns

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<v Speaker 1>into aton and something else, then it turns back into

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<v Speaker 1>an electron, and then it creates this other thing which

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<v Speaker 1>exists for a bill of second and then comes back.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like frothing mass of stuff that's happening. And

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<v Speaker 1>the quantum mechanics we first developed couldn't describe that at

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<v Speaker 1>all because it was very difficult to describe the creation

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<v Speaker 1>or destruction of particles. So you sort of like reboot

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<v Speaker 1>your thinking completely and say, let's ignore the story of

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<v Speaker 1>one particle and just think about like the particles in general. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's think about all the particles. It's just like vibrations

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<v Speaker 1>of this sheet that fills the universe. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about the story of particle A

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<v Speaker 1>and the story of particle B. Because, um, you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>an electron. If you think of it as a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and that thing disappears and turns into something else, then

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<v Speaker 1>you're left wondering what happened to that thing? Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin the electron, what is his story? He disappeared and

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<v Speaker 1>he came back. Is it's still Kevin? Right, Like in

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<v Speaker 1>the quantum field theory version, Like all the electrons are

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin because all the electrons are the same, right, Every

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<v Speaker 1>electron is identical. Right, there's no difference between this electron

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<v Speaker 1>and that electron. Where all Kevin, we're all made out

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<v Speaker 1>of Kevin. Turns out that's the answer to the life,

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<v Speaker 1>the universe and everything. Kevin. There's like twelve Kevin's listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this, going, I knew it. I hope we have

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<v Speaker 1>more than twelve Kevin's listening to this. Well, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit deeper into it. But first let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break. Okay, so you're saying that the universe

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<v Speaker 1>is not empty. It's like it's filled with these quantum

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<v Speaker 1>fields that just kind of permeate everything. And they might

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<v Speaker 1>be imaginary or they might be real things, but they

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<v Speaker 1>premiate the entire universe. And we, like particles us matter,

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<v Speaker 1>are just kind of like um little vibrations in these fields,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. And they lay on top of each other, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Every point in space can have an electron field and

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<v Speaker 1>an upcork field, and a down cork field, and a

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<v Speaker 1>Higgs boson on field and electromagnetic field. We have lots

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<v Speaker 1>of different kinds of fields, and you know, it might

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<v Speaker 1>turn out eventually that we figure out how they're all

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<v Speaker 1>really just part of one big field. But right now,

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<v Speaker 1>we have lots of different kinds of fields that all

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<v Speaker 1>sort of lay on top of each other. They're all

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<v Speaker 1>the same size, or all the size of the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Every piece of space has all these fields, and some

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<v Speaker 1>of them are zero ish, you know, they're low, and

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<v Speaker 1>some of them have energy in them, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>you have the electron here. So if you have like

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<v Speaker 1>an electron on your left, that means the electron field

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<v Speaker 1>is excited there. And if you have an upcork on

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<v Speaker 1>your right, it means the upcork field is excited there

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<v Speaker 1>and the electron field is not. Right. But and they

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<v Speaker 1>can sort of talk to each other, right, Like an electron,

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<v Speaker 1>you could have a little vibration in the electron field

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<v Speaker 1>and then suddenly that disappears and it gets transferred to

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<v Speaker 1>a different field and becomes a different particle exactly. And

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<v Speaker 1>those are the forces. So quantum field theory can describe matter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we've been talking about. They could also describe

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<v Speaker 1>the forces like the electromagnetic field is a way for

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<v Speaker 1>charge particle fields to interact with each other. Right, you

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<v Speaker 1>have one electron over here, another electron over there. How

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<v Speaker 1>do they talk to each other? Well, turns out the

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<v Speaker 1>electron field and the photon field interact, and so one

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<v Speaker 1>electron can talk to another electron by shooting a ripple

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<v Speaker 1>through the photon field, which is like sending a photon

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<v Speaker 1>between one electron and the other through another field. Yes, exactly,

0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the fields coupled to each other, they interact otherwise would

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty boring universe, and in these fields fill the

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<v Speaker 1>entire universe. So are they related to space, like if

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<v Speaker 1>if space grows, these fields grow as well. Yes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a basic part of space, right, you can't have

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<v Speaker 1>space without these fields. As far as we know. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no fieldless part of space, and every part of space

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<v Speaker 1>has these fields. It's like there's a hum at every

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<v Speaker 1>point in the universe. There's no quiet place in the

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<v Speaker 1>universe exactly. And you might be thinking, well, what if

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<v Speaker 1>you have an empty space, maybe all the fields are

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<v Speaker 1>just zero. Right, Well, that's the fascinating thing about quantum fields,

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<v Speaker 1>right because uncertainty principle, because there's a maximum amount of

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<v Speaker 1>information you can have. You can't have quantum field to

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<v Speaker 1>be exactly at zero. There's a minimum amount of inner

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<v Speaker 1>g they have to have, so they can bubble and

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<v Speaker 1>slosh in a way that gives you that uncertainty. Wait wait, wait, um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's kind of like an inherent energy in these

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<v Speaker 1>quantum fields. That's right, Like they're positive. I guess they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're not zero exactly. You can't have quantum fields exactly

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<v Speaker 1>at zero, and so there's always some energy there and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the energy of empty space, right, and that

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<v Speaker 1>energy means you have energy and you can create an

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<v Speaker 1>electron and depositron which then annihilate themselves back into a

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<v Speaker 1>photon or back into something else. So this energy is

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<v Speaker 1>always bubbling and frothing. And I feel like this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of makes it kind of makes anything possible. Right like before,

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you were is there something specific you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do? Accomplish with the punting field, you wanted

0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 1>to do your dishes, get away with something I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get away with, or or imagine that I can

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<v Speaker 1>do you No, What I mean is in the sense

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<v Speaker 1>that before, if you were keeping track of all particles,

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<v Speaker 1>like if I was made out of the Kevin particles,

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<v Speaker 1>then there's sort of no way for me to suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>disappear and a you're over there. But now, because everything

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<v Speaker 1>is a quantum field, I could choose magically for some reason. Rights,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like because we have quantum fields, there are

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<v Speaker 1>no rules, right, There are specific rules for how quantum

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<v Speaker 1>fields interact with each other and and how things propagate

0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:20.440
<v Speaker 1>through quantum fields, and you know, so we still have

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<v Speaker 1>laws of physics. It's not like we're tossing the laws

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<v Speaker 1>out the window and you do whatever you like. The

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<v Speaker 1>parents are out of town, right um, there's it's just

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<v Speaker 1>another way of looking at the universe. Okay, all right,

0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess what I mean is, you know stuff can

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<v Speaker 1>appear out of nowhere with these quantum fields. Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's certainly true that a lot of your intuition is wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and the quantum fields tell us that crazy things could happen,

0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:42.439
<v Speaker 1>And then we do the experiments and it's right, right,

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:49.720
<v Speaker 1>quantum quantum field theory seems to be correct. It's a

0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:51.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting view of the universe. You know, we think

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<v Speaker 1>of it as big and empty, but really there's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like a like a little froth in the background

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<v Speaker 1>where a little like simmering bubbling. Yeah, exactly, there's no

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:03.200
<v Speaker 1>place that's actually empty. Either's energy everywhere, and it's it's

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 1>filled with possibilities literally, and it's a it's a fascinating

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>way to look at the universe, and it's led to

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of insights. I mean, just like this mathematical

0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>way of thinking about things has revealed things about the

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<v Speaker 1>universe we didn't know. For example, like what like the

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<v Speaker 1>Higgs boson. The Higgs boson was just an idea. Right

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:25.080
<v Speaker 1>fifty years ago, Peter Higgs and several others said, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>what if there was another field? We'll call it the

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<v Speaker 1>Higgs field conveniently, And you know, where did you get

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<v Speaker 1>this idea? Where did this idea come from? Right? Who

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want to postulate a field that fills the universe?

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 1>And it is named after themselves? Right? Do you think

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:41.920
<v Speaker 1>he named it after himself or people named it after him? Oh,

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:45.359
<v Speaker 1>there's a whole controversy there about who named the Higgs fields,

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<v Speaker 1>And it comes down to um who submitted a paper first,

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<v Speaker 1>and whether a paper is dated based on the submission

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<v Speaker 1>date or the acceptance dage. You know, I mean like,

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<v Speaker 1>did Higgs write in his paper I'm going to call

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<v Speaker 1>this the Higgs field or did you say it's the

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<v Speaker 1>age or b? And then that somebody said, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the field Higgs was talking about. Yes, somebody later referred

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<v Speaker 1>to it as the Higgs field because Higgs paper has

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<v Speaker 1>the earliest date on it. But he actually submitted his

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<v Speaker 1>paper after some other folks. Their paper had a later

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<v Speaker 1>date on it because the paper had the acceptance date

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<v Speaker 1>on it, not the submission date. So somebody later gave

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<v Speaker 1>Higgs credit, maybe inappropriately. Okay, so you're saying that these

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<v Speaker 1>fields are not just kind of need to think about,

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<v Speaker 1>but they've actually led to real discoveries and real understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe. Yeah. It was a guy named Steve

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Weinberg who read Higgs paper. He was looking at these

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<v Speaker 1>fields and he was thinking, thinking, there's a mystery here,

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a pattern here that doesn't quite work, and that

0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 1>comes from trying to unify the fields. We've talked on

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:49.440
<v Speaker 1>other podcasts about how the electromagnetic field and the weak

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 1>nuclear field, Right, those two forces are actually parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing, and they're very similar. But the difference

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<v Speaker 1>is that the photon, the thing that moves the electromagnetic field,

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<v Speaker 1>has no mass, right, It's it's massless. And the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that moves the weak nuclear force are the w n

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.680
<v Speaker 1>z bosons. They're really heavy. So Weinberg was like, if

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<v Speaker 1>these are two parts of the same thing, how come

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<v Speaker 1>one has no mass and the other one has a

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<v Speaker 1>huge amount of mass? Right? What could do that mathematically?

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<v Speaker 1>Like theoretically, how could you make that happen? And the

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<v Speaker 1>what he found was the simplest way to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>the easiest, the clearest, like the without adding the minimal

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<v Speaker 1>number of moving pieces was to add one more field.

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:34.159
<v Speaker 1>And so he read that paper by Higgs and he thought, Aha,

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that is just the field we need. So he said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you add this field, and it explains this mystery

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<v Speaker 1>why photons have no mass and why the w z

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of mass, But it, you know, creates

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<v Speaker 1>another field that feels the universe. So let's go see

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<v Speaker 1>if that's real. And but what's interesting is that there

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<v Speaker 1>were other people positing other fields, right, Like, he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the only one. He wasn't the only one. Other people

0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>had similar ideas, and then there are other totally competing ideas,

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, for ways to solve that mystery with other

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<v Speaker 1>different fields. Yeah, exactly. So like I could say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a horhe field that permius everything. Yeah, you could,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would be a physicist. Boom, you're a physicist

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<v Speaker 1>right here today on the podcast and deputize you. Yeah. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you wanted to propose a field, they would

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<v Speaker 1>have to solve a problem, right, like why this field

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<v Speaker 1>and not some other fields? And you'd have to provide

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<v Speaker 1>a way for us to check, like what in what

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>experiment could we see the Jorge particle, right, which is

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 1>an excitation of the Jorge field, right, and the same

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<v Speaker 1>as the Higgs boson is an excited state of the

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Higgs field. Right. You have to provide some way for

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 1>us to do that, and Peter Higgs did. He's like, oh, well,

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 1>if you smash protons together this energy, you should see

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 1>a certain number of Higgs particles. All right, So, um,

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 1>i'll table that for my next career after we have

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast host in a world where cartoonists try to

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<v Speaker 1>be physicists. Before we keep going, let's take a short break. Um, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's it's like it's like, really the basic

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>theory of everything, you know, matter, light, forces, energy, any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of everything out there, we describe it using quantum fields.

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Almost everything is there? Yeah? Is there something we don't

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.880
<v Speaker 1>describe with quantum fields? Yeah, And it's always the same thing.

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:35.199
<v Speaker 1>It's the black sheep of physics. It's gravity. It's quantum

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>field theory describes matter, it describes electromagnetism, it describes the

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>weak nuclear force, it describes the strong nuclear force. It

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>even can incorporate special relativity, meaning we understand what happens

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>when electrons go super duper fast close to the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of light. Right, But quantum field theory is easiest when

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>space is flat. I mean, we can do quantum field

0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 1>theory and curved spaces, but it gets really nasty in space.

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Getting curved is exactly what general relativity says will happen.

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>So what quantum field you're saying, don't work in space

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>that is not flat, like, it only works in flat space.

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Not exactly. We can do it, but it's not easy.

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>It's not a lot of fun. Why not? Why not? Um,

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 1>it's a no, it's a great question. It's a great question.

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.199
<v Speaker 1>So the issue is more about figuring out how to

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<v Speaker 1>get quantum field theory, to explain that curvature, to generate

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>that curvature, to get a quantum field theory description of

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>how space gets curved. Like, I like your space curves

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>or contracts. What does that do to the quantum field?

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't it just squishes it or bends it? Oh? Yeah,

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>you're right, it just squishes it. Thanks. We just solve

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>that problem, all right, Um, check that off the list

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>of modern physics mysteries. Nobel Prize please, Yeah, the squish function.

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>We'll decide this function. Um. I think also the larger

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>problem is that we don't know how to describe gravity

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>in terms of a quantum field. Right, electromagna autism and

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 1>all these other forces we can describe as oscillations in

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the field. Right, and that fields associated with its own particle.

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>The photon is is the particles is associated with the

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>field for electromagnetism, the gluon is the particle associated with

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the field. For the strong nuclear force. We have never

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>been able to describe gravity in terms of a quantum field,

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>like a gravitational field field space and has a particle

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>associated with the graviton. We try to do that. We

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>try to do those theories and write them down, but

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>you get crazy answers, you get infinities where you should

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>get reasonable numbers, and just doesn't work on and so

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<v Speaker 1>even if you came up with the gravity quantum field

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and the graviton, it's still you're saying by itself, it's

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>not consistent even in flat space. That's right, it's um.

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>We can't make those theories work. I mean, people have tried,

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>and people are trying, and they're writing down theories of

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 1>quantum um gravity, but those theories don't make testable predictions

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that make sense. You know, They predict infinities. You know,

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>what is the force between these two particles? Infinity? How

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>much mass does this thing have? Infinite? So it makes

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>predictions which your nonsense, and we haven't been able to

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>fix them mathematically. What if it does have infinite masks?

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>No wonder, I feel so sluggish today, I have infinite masks.

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Um alright, So quantum fields they PerMIATE everything. They describe

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>everything that we know about almost except gravity, except gravity,

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>and and and they're amazingly accurate, like you're you're telling

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>me earlier. They can predict things up to like ten

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>decimal places. Yes, exactly, it's super accurate. Like if you

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>exclude gravity, we can do these experiments and we can

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>check them and we get bang on the right answer

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to as far as we can measure. You know, it's

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>a kind of thing that makes me wonder if we

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>really have pulled back the curtain of nature and seeing

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the way the world really works. You know, yeah, yeah,

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>that sort of makes me all wonder. You know, if

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>this is the way the universe works? What makes these fields? Like,

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 1>what's what's their origin? Where do they come from? You

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>just never satisfied, are you, Jorge? We explain matter in

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>terms of particles. We explained particles in terms of fields,

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>But you're like, I want more. What makes up the fields? Yeah?

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>How far? How far does the rabbit hole go? Yeah?

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean we've explained the way matter works in terms

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>of particles, and particles work in terms of fields and so,

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and then of course the next natural question is you

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>know what makes the fields? Are the fields actually just

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>something else? Right? Uh, the wiggling of strings or you know,

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the dancing of tiny puppies or something. We don't know,

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>and we don't know. If we get that answer, if

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>there's not another question behind it, right, it goes even deeper.

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Is there an end of this rabbit hole? We have

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>no idea. Frankly, I hope not. I think the answer

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>is clear. It's made to Glorian's obviously making absolutely. Yeah,

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>that was definitely a documentary. So you know, the next

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>time you are out walking around in the world and

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you look up at the sky and you are amazed

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>at how beautiful things are, remember that deep down underneath

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a hot, sasty, frothing mess of quantum fields, oscillating

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and interacting and bouncing against each other and doing crazy

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>calculations just to make your everyday world work for you. Yeah,

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I like to think of it more as happy fields,

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe not so like nasty What if they're happy fields? Happy?

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>What's happy about these fields? They're like zinging and zinging

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and interacting with each other, and they're like never resting,

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're they're not like slow lingorious lazy fields.

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, these are hyper fields. But it's interesting. I

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.239
<v Speaker 1>think it sort of makes me think that maybe in

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a way, we are all connected, you know, if we're

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>all just vibrations in these mysterious quantum fields of stuff,

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>we're all sort of part of all We're all connected,

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're all part of part of the same

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff that the universe is made out of. That's right, Me,

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>you and Kevin, who are all really the same, all

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the Kens, all of them, all the Kevin's, We are

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>all the Kevin's. Basically, that's my new religion, the Church

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>of Kevin to the Church of the Flying Kevin Monster.

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Now we are all oscillations in the same universe expanding fields.

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 1>That is true. All right, Well, I hope you enjoyed

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:12.280
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0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.239
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0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.120
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0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:45.320
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