Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart
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Speaker 1: the Worst Year Ever. It's the first of the year,
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast where we believe that the time
Speaker 1: started less than a year ago and everything before is
Speaker 1: a hallucination created by the illuminati. Well, you don't know,
Speaker 1: that's not true. Nothing has ever happened before this moment,
Speaker 1: and nothing happened beyond it. That's right. This is all
Speaker 1: of existence convinced into a podcast for the podcasting which
Speaker 1: will continue. Cody, I watched Peacemaker. Did you have that?
Speaker 1: I have watched Peacemakers? Was all about that sky high
Speaker 1: it was? It was, Oh boy, guys. I just have
Speaker 1: to say, before we even dived down this path of
Speaker 1: talking about it, a number of our wonderful, beloved listeners
Speaker 1: have reached out to me to say thank you, Katie,
Speaker 1: thank you for your recommendation of Patriot, and these motherfucking
Speaker 1: boys that I worked with that I work with will
Speaker 1: much respect or listen to my suggestions. Pker Peacemaker, It's
Speaker 1: pretty good. How did you enjoy it? I like you know,
Speaker 1: I really like John Cena. I like John Cena a lot.
Speaker 1: I think he's he's charming, and I'm continually surprised at
Speaker 1: how talented he is. For example, really seen a very
Speaker 1: emotional scene where he plays the piano and I looked
Speaker 1: it up Tom and he that's actually him. He's just
Speaker 1: like I was watching my first when that scene started,
Speaker 1: I was like, no way, that's him playing. They got
Speaker 1: a body double that to play. Then there was a
Speaker 1: shot that, you know, James Gunn was like, we're going
Speaker 1: to need a shot that like, clearly that's playing. So
Speaker 1: they do like his face panning down to his hands,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'll be damned, that's dope. He
Speaker 1: also speaks fluent Mandarin. What he's really good in the show.
Speaker 1: He's he's a wonderful actor. Um and I was not
Speaker 1: familiar before this. I I had a lot of fun
Speaker 1: watching this. Whole cast is great. Yeah, the whole caseories.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it thoroughly. Well. Everreated this exact conversation for
Speaker 1: like a half hour with David Bell yesterday with David Bell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh he was on Bastards right, Yeah he was. He was.
Speaker 1: This is just a podcast where I talked to my
Speaker 1: friends about things I've said to my other friends and
Speaker 1: I about shows that you are also recommend. Because the
Speaker 1: world's doing fine, We're not needed to cover in our work.
Speaker 1: Work here is done. Letting Google. Oh okay, yeah, small
Speaker 1: small yield nuclear weapons could make nuclear war more accessible
Speaker 1: than ever. That seems fine. Alright, you saw that really
Speaker 1: good article. It's fine. That's not not really even worth
Speaker 1: covering in any detail. We need, we need our entertainment.
Speaker 1: I do have an awareness now that my attention span
Speaker 1: is all over the place and it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to zone out being alone. I've probably said this on
Speaker 1: the show, So I give myself permission to take two
Speaker 1: days with an episode of a show if it's like
Speaker 1: a longer episode, you know, like, don't give up, just
Speaker 1: do it in pieces if your attention is split. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't think too much about things who do
Speaker 1: things or believe things. Just don't just don't recommend not
Speaker 1: caring destructive nuclear arms will consume us all. Thank god.
Speaker 1: I have to say that this is at odds with
Speaker 1: everything we talked about last week on even More News
Speaker 1: or other show where we went deep with Danny Fernande
Speaker 1: is on white nihilism and the importance of not saying
Speaker 1: there's nothing not white nihilism, to say everything seems fine time. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: how y'all doing. I'm I'm I think I'm terrible in
Speaker 1: most ways. But all of the sheep on our on
Speaker 1: our on our little farm just had babies. So there's
Speaker 1: for very tiny sheep. I got to see them when
Speaker 1: they were like two hours. It's so cute because I
Speaker 1: went out and fed them, and then I came out
Speaker 1: a couple of hours later and there were babies, so
Speaker 1: I knew they had to be like maybe two or
Speaker 1: three hours old. And they're just already up and doing
Speaker 1: sheep stuff like fine, living life, vibe and doing all
Speaker 1: of the things they will do as adults. They're already
Speaker 1: walking around. Sheeps come out walking, they come out ready
Speaker 1: to go. They're just I guess you away, it's just lams, baby,
Speaker 1: little little baby lambs. One of them is a ram.
Speaker 1: He's got a little bitty little bit of problems on
Speaker 1: his hand. Uh. Their dad. They're like, I mean, they're
Speaker 1: about the size of a cat, like sized cat. Um,
Speaker 1: they're not big. They're a little taller than cats obviously
Speaker 1: because they're sheep, but they're about the mass of a
Speaker 1: cat man. Birthing a sheep's got to be brutal. Oh,
Speaker 1: you don't have to do any of that. Ship. Their
Speaker 1: moms take care of it. Well that's what I mean
Speaker 1: for the mom. Yeah, not you. Yeah. They seem to
Speaker 1: be doing just fine. And their dad is very proud
Speaker 1: of the fact that he made a bunch of little
Speaker 1: baby lambs. Uh. He kept trying to head butt us
Speaker 1: when we picked him up to cut their umbilical cords off.
Speaker 1: But I just had to grab onto his horns and
Speaker 1: then it was fine. Protective, what loyalty. I love him.
Speaker 1: They're going to give their kids complex. He liked it.
Speaker 1: Behind his neck he wiggles his entire back end like
Speaker 1: a dog. It's very cute. He's a good boy. I
Speaker 1: she could spend the whole hour talking about this pretty
Speaker 1: good ram. Yeah, this mammal stuff. Yeah yeah. See. How's
Speaker 1: that for positivity? I would say that is a show.
Speaker 1: We're done. Great episode today, I feel wonderful. Have a
Speaker 1: good one to the worst year ever. A podcast where
Speaker 1: I update you about the tidy farm that I live on.
Speaker 1: Um chickens are fact. That sounds lovely, though m Hm,
Speaker 1: it does. I think we all want to live vicariously
Speaker 1: through you. It's not, it's maybe not. There's problem the
Speaker 1: best for an audio medium. Too many eggs, way too
Speaker 1: many eggs. Too many eggs. You can't eat all those eggs.
Speaker 1: It's impossible to give them away. I'll get like sixty
Speaker 1: eggs in a week. That's what That's what we gotta do.
Speaker 1: That's what we gotta do. We gotta start doing some
Speaker 1: baking and freezing bot eggs. Yeah, freeze them, pickle them,
Speaker 1: do what you can. Anyway. What's the news. How are
Speaker 1: we doing? Oh? I want to talk about great end
Speaker 1: of sec Yeah, I don't know. With the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's what we're talking about. Looking for a
Speaker 1: new member. Um. Yeah, they're doing maybe too, that's the
Speaker 1: only thing. What's the what's the dear, dear deal with Clarence.
Speaker 1: He's sick with something. He'll probably be fine. Fine, He'll
Speaker 1: be fine this time, he'll be fine. Yeah, he'll definitely
Speaker 1: be fine. Yeah. But it'd be pretty cool if he died,
Speaker 1: though he die right now, otherwise it'll be pretty frustrating
Speaker 1: if he died like after the mid terms and we
Speaker 1: are incapable of confirming anybody would just like him to
Speaker 1: get hit by a bus on his way out of
Speaker 1: the hospital. Be nice him and his wife. Yeah, sure, absolutely,
Speaker 1: that sounds fine. With a smile. It didn't feel right, though,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. I have gotten over the hump
Speaker 1: of wishing death upon who else want to I just
Speaker 1: I guess I don't necessarily want them to be hit
Speaker 1: by a bus. I'd rather, um, well, I happen to
Speaker 1: support public transit Katie, Well, yeah, what do you what
Speaker 1: do you want? You want them to get hit by
Speaker 1: a tesla in a tunnel. I don't want them to
Speaker 1: die in some way that's incredibly tragic and everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, these people are wonderful. I'd rather uh to
Speaker 1: continue to bespitch their name, I guess. But I don't
Speaker 1: want him to be serving. I want him to die.
Speaker 1: I don't need Jinny too. She can be around to
Speaker 1: like be a goal. And yeah, I mean, obviously the
Speaker 1: ideal death for a bad person is like auto erotic asphyxiation.
Speaker 1: But how often does that get to happen? Very I
Speaker 1: mean very early. Yeah, I've got one in mind. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so beyond that confirmations, Yeah, I think it's only happened once. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and to Quentin Tarantino in eleven years strangled by a
Speaker 1: foot shaped rope. What that's funny. Trust your feelings, you
Speaker 1: know it to be true. I mean normally I don't
Speaker 1: like when you predict things. But they'll do a Star
Speaker 1: Trek and then he'll be I'm not saying I wanted.
Speaker 1: I have nothing against Quentin Tarantino. It just seems plausible. Anyway.
Speaker 1: We've got a Supreme Court in theory. Yeah. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're doing that. They're doing it today. They did
Speaker 1: a little bit yesterday. It's very do more tomorrow. Good
Speaker 1: and exciting. They're doing a great job. Um. I shout
Speaker 1: out to Lindsey Graham. Shout out to Marcia Blackburn, shout
Speaker 1: out to Josh Holly, Shout out to a friend of
Speaker 1: the show. Are you shouting these also? They're just doing
Speaker 1: a really good job. They're doing a good job. Uh.
Speaker 1: We're talking a lot about critical race theory. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and children's books, because what else are you gonna talk
Speaker 1: about that's really important for us to talk about during
Speaker 1: this limited period of time. Yeah, there's a really funny
Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham quote about this uh, not about this, but
Speaker 1: like basically saying, uh, people are gonna call us a
Speaker 1: racist during this Republicans, and that's not gonna fly with
Speaker 1: us because we're used to it by now. And I
Speaker 1: just think that's really really funny. Like I know what
Speaker 1: he meant. He's like, yeah, you falsely accused of racism.
Speaker 1: We're used to that. But like just saying, like we're
Speaker 1: used to being called racist all the time. It's very funny. Cellphone,
Speaker 1: cell phone, cellphone. It's a fun time talking about critical
Speaker 1: race theory. But first we're gonna talk about George W.
Speaker 1: Bush um alleged war criminal, alleged alleged worker alleged um
Speaker 1: who today with work a middle of funny term. Sorry,
Speaker 1: just the fact like sure putin Yeah, okay, war criminal,
Speaker 1: but like war is criminal. No, no, let's wow, let
Speaker 1: it simmer and hit y'all. War is the crime. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's with alleged work criminal George W. Bush with alleged
Speaker 1: work criminal Bill Clinton. I guess all presidents are war
Speaker 1: criminals him something. Yeah, and let that asprint factory. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also alleged criminal. Yeah, definitely alleged rapist criminals George W.
Speaker 1: Bush and Bill Clinton. Yeah, let's go with that's easiest, easiest,
Speaker 1: easiest way for it. Yeah, it's a Chicago's Ukraine village
Speaker 1: and they're they're doing um, they're like lank flowers and
Speaker 1: solitarity with Ukraine. Fine, whatever, fine, whatever, it's it's ex
Speaker 1: president ship like ex president stuff, the body countries being faded. Um.
Speaker 1: One might say the opposite of what they did when
Speaker 1: they were president, but whatever. Um. Uh. So George W.
Speaker 1: Bush was brought up today, and I think this is
Speaker 1: really interesting how these senators are, particularly the Republican senators,
Speaker 1: handle this and like frame stuff and ask about stuff
Speaker 1: and try to get their little their little sound bite
Speaker 1: in their little moment um. John Cornyn was asking today
Speaker 1: about George W. Bush and first of all, we didn't
Speaker 1: even say her name. Katangi Brown Jackson is the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: Incredible that we've made it this far. What a hack
Speaker 1: saying ridiculous, absolute shame. That's her name. So she was
Speaker 1: asked about one point calling George W. Bush a war
Speaker 1: criminal during her career, and she was very confused by this.
Speaker 1: She didn't think think she ever said it, um, which uh,
Speaker 1: one could argue that it's fine if she said that
Speaker 1: at one point that you could. You could very well
Speaker 1: argue that, but obviously if you're in the in the
Speaker 1: Senate the United States, you can't argue that as a senator. UM.
Speaker 1: I think it would be based if you did, but
Speaker 1: it's unlikely that people would, which is why they wouldn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: based in senate pilled Uh, but they're not doing that.
Speaker 1: What they're asking is accusatorially. You called Bush and Rumsfeld
Speaker 1: war criminals. UM, and you've been so charming and reasonable
Speaker 1: today and I'm surprised that you would do such a thing.
Speaker 1: And so he did his little spiel and she was like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And they went on. Then
Speaker 1: they took like a short recess and they came back
Speaker 1: and uh, Senator Durban did a brief follow up, a
Speaker 1: little dicky d down. Durbaned down. Alright, so a deep
Speaker 1: Durban happened and he that was good. That was a
Speaker 1: good one. Come on, I mean if it made me
Speaker 1: go yeah, and then you'll be saying that in five months,
Speaker 1: after four months of complaining. Um, But they came back
Speaker 1: and UM, basically it didn't happen. UM. She was representing
Speaker 1: UM an accused terrorist, and like all lawyers, you defend
Speaker 1: your your client. Um. And basically the argument was like
Speaker 1: this person was tortured and torture is a war crime,
Speaker 1: and that was that. That was this, But they weren't
Speaker 1: saying sous twist. Yeah, yeah, ordered and allowed by President
Speaker 1: Bush and Rumsfeld. But like it's not she's not like yeah,
Speaker 1: she's not like making these like speeches from the bench
Speaker 1: like George Bush a war criminal, was like no, he
Speaker 1: was tortured. Tortures of war crime. Well, everything everything that
Speaker 1: they're doing there, they know that she's going to get confirmed.
Speaker 1: They know. Let's let's back up here just a little
Speaker 1: bit and say that Kaji bron Jackson is the single
Speaker 1: most qualified person to be nominated for the Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: at least if you're looking at it compared to literally
Speaker 1: everybody else on that fucking bench. Um, she's already been
Speaker 1: nominated and passed unanimously by the Senate very recently at
Speaker 1: a lower court, and now there's the opportunity, and she's
Speaker 1: the first choice. She she is a grand they voted
Speaker 1: for her. So what they're doing right now is digging
Speaker 1: up anything they can to make a show of it,
Speaker 1: knowing what is ultimately going to happen. I mean, everything
Speaker 1: about it is disingenuous. Well, we can look at the
Speaker 1: different attacks, like she just looking at her, you can
Speaker 1: tell that she is whatever of critical race theory, fucking racist. Um,
Speaker 1: how about just the line of questioning about her going
Speaker 1: easy on sexual predators when if you because she she
Speaker 1: has sentenced people below like a lesser point lesser sentence,
Speaker 1: but that's actually turned out to be way more strict
Speaker 1: and less lenient than many many many judges. And is
Speaker 1: there's a conversation apparently that's widely accepted that these um
Speaker 1: sentencing guidelines should be changed, that some people think that
Speaker 1: they're not appropriate. So actually, if you look at it,
Speaker 1: they're just scrambling for whatever they can. But framing her
Speaker 1: in the most disingenuous I'll bet she's harsher on sexual
Speaker 1: predators than Republicans in Congress were. Then I bet they're
Speaker 1: harsher than you know, I mean, they're fucking I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that gate that gates. I mean, it doesn't matter, Like
Speaker 1: none of this matters. Likes matter, but none of it
Speaker 1: matters politically, because all that matters is Republicans are gonna
Speaker 1: go after her because she's Biden's nominate, Like and that's
Speaker 1: and it's um, you know, it's I guess, a window
Speaker 1: into like just like their future strategy. Interestingly, I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody brought up, uh that the election was stolen
Speaker 1: from Donald Trump, which you I would expect at least
Speaker 1: somebody to talk about that because they're all pathetic. It
Speaker 1: seems to be what they can't They can't. They can't
Speaker 1: stop talking about it and literally every other arena, So
Speaker 1: why not now, But what they're doing and like you
Speaker 1: can you see it elsewhere in other arenas, um more
Speaker 1: and more these days. But they're just trying to like
Speaker 1: frame everybody is like a pedophile and like uh like
Speaker 1: supporter of like grooming children. That's what they they're doing. Um.
Speaker 1: The line of questioning from Holly about anything about like
Speaker 1: what like a drag queen story hour, um, don't say
Speaker 1: gay stuff, all this kind of stuff that they like
Speaker 1: to bring up. It's circling this claim um and this
Speaker 1: like fascist belief about about the left and Republicans are
Speaker 1: really amping it up. It's gonna get worse and bad,
Speaker 1: I think, but you can kind of see it in
Speaker 1: in this series of events. Yeah, I love events. We
Speaker 1: gotta take a quick break y'all. I'm not a fan
Speaker 1: now on this show, Clarence Thomas breaks his neck walking
Speaker 1: out of the hospital together. Everything you're bad talking about something.
Speaker 1: The law, Yeah, I love about the law. It never fails.
Speaker 1: It never fails two longstanding social issues because it exists
Speaker 1: primarily to maintain systems of inequality. I'm curious, So I
Speaker 1: guess fine, she's she seems like a better case scenario
Speaker 1: than most for Supreme Court justice. That that'll be good.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Republicans will continue being shitty and there will.
Speaker 1: She wants the job. I mean, she's sunned up to
Speaker 1: be shot down a lot. You know, I'm thinking about him,
Speaker 1: like it's grim you want to be a liberal judge
Speaker 1: on this court. I think job for life, job security.
Speaker 1: That's one way to deal with inflation. You could pull
Speaker 1: a Jeffrey Tuban in the office and not get fired, right,
Speaker 1: And I think she should. That's feminism right there, that's feminism.
Speaker 1: I do think it's funny. It is what it is. Basically,
Speaker 1: like this is gonna happen. It's gonna be a big
Speaker 1: circus and big show for everybody who wants to put
Speaker 1: on a show. Like every single one of these fucking things,
Speaker 1: whether it's a confirmation hearing or the fucking impeachment of
Speaker 1: a president whatever. Uh. If Mansion says yes, then she'll
Speaker 1: get She'll get it like it's fifth it's uh yeah,
Speaker 1: one votes is all she needs for this. Um. But
Speaker 1: I really quick just have to talk about Ted Cruz. Um,
Speaker 1: just because he was our guest last week. He's our
Speaker 1: guest next week. So I want to make sure that
Speaker 1: our listeners can always get a taste of Cruise. Your
Speaker 1: daily Ted m exactly, boy on my shoes. Daily Ted
Speaker 1: tends to mean a different thing, but okay today not today.
Speaker 1: Here it's it's for Cruise creates this time. Um. He
Speaker 1: loves talking about critical race theory um in a way
Speaker 1: that makes it seem like it could be mean literally anything. Um.
Speaker 1: And because it does to them, and he's, yeah, all
Speaker 1: bad things the same thing. He's a very it's very
Speaker 1: He's just such a Daily Wire fanboy. It's so funny
Speaker 1: to watch him try and squirm um confidently. Um he
Speaker 1: he squirmed confidently that he does it. Um. So Tanji
Speaker 1: Brown Jackson is on the board of Georgetown Day School,
Speaker 1: and so this gave Ted Cruise an opening to talk
Speaker 1: about critical race theory and he asked her to define
Speaker 1: it and she was like, yeah, this like school thought
Speaker 1: in law, and like it doesn't really apply to what
Speaker 1: I do. I don't really use it in my job. Um,
Speaker 1: but that's what it is. And so he kept going.
Speaker 1: He took that as a sign to be like, this
Speaker 1: is then I should talk more about this. And so
Speaker 1: he talked more about it and brought up some books
Speaker 1: that were assigned at this fucking school and one of
Speaker 1: them is a children's cartoon book called Anti Racist Baby,
Speaker 1: and it's about teaching your kid to be anti racist,
Speaker 1: because the conceit is that kids aren't. They're not like
Speaker 1: born racist. They're taught racism. They're taught to be racist
Speaker 1: by their environment and society, their family and all the
Speaker 1: things that we know about human beings and how they
Speaker 1: develop their opinions about stuff. Um. So he brings up
Speaker 1: this fucking book and I don't know if we can
Speaker 1: play it, but basically he talks about this book for
Speaker 1: a little while. It's like, yeah, it says this, and
Speaker 1: it says that you know, you you have to teach
Speaker 1: kids to be anti racist because otherwise they'll be racist.
Speaker 1: There's no there's no neutrality, which, like the book isn't
Speaker 1: saying there's no neutrality, it's saying that the kids are
Speaker 1: taught racism. Um. So he does this for a while,
Speaker 1: like four minutes, about these fucking books, about books that
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with being a supreme nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the Supreme Court. He's just he's just making
Speaker 1: ship to go on Twitter. It's and it worked. We're
Speaker 1: talking about it. Yeah, of course. So here's the end
Speaker 1: of his little spiel. Are you comfortable with with these
Speaker 1: ideas being taught to children as young as four and,
Speaker 1: in respect to the first book, as young as eight nine, Senator,
Speaker 1: I have not reviewed any of those books, any of
Speaker 1: those ideas. They don't come up in my work as
Speaker 1: a judge, which I am respectfully here to address in
Speaker 1: my work as a judge, no need, which is evidenced
Speaker 1: from my near decade on the bench. Then let's go
Speaker 1: back to your work. Let her fucking finish. Like incredible,
Speaker 1: She like said, what a piece of ship. It has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with my job that I've done, nothing
Speaker 1: to do with this h That to me sounded like
Speaker 1: she was not quite done, but she was. She was done. Um,
Speaker 1: from what I gathered and she was basically saying respect respectfully, disrespectfully. Actually,
Speaker 1: it's embarrassing and such a waste of time, and you
Speaker 1: actually have an opportunity to have some interesting conversations and
Speaker 1: thought provoking conversations. And look, I don't know, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch Supreme Court Justice earrings when I was younger,
Speaker 1: so I can't compare to how questioning is. But it's
Speaker 1: just such bullshit. It's such fucking obvious, theatrical bullshit. You
Speaker 1: don't want a real conversation. You don't want to give
Speaker 1: her an opportunity to show, you know, talk about real
Speaker 1: issues or have an actual conversation because that might change
Speaker 1: people's minds about something. Anyway. That's that's how I feel.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all yeah, I mean, it's definitely like
Speaker 1: reached a fever pitch with all these or does. But
Speaker 1: like you know, no, it's not knew that these little
Speaker 1: freaks go up there and do their little dance and
Speaker 1: try to get their little their little SoundBite and their
Speaker 1: little their little show um at the expense of I
Speaker 1: wonder if they see I wonder if if they get
Speaker 1: a real good zinger in did their Twitter follows go?
Speaker 1: It is to apology apologize for the phrase trumped up. Now. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's really ruined that word as a word I feel
Speaker 1: comfortable using. Um. But yeah, r I p uker players,
Speaker 1: Um but it is Uh. I just think it's funny
Speaker 1: that he spent five minutes talking about these books that
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with being Supreme Court justice. And
Speaker 1: she basically responded, respectfully, No, I'm not here to talk
Speaker 1: about those there's nothing to do with this, and he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, then then let's go to go
Speaker 1: to go to your work like he knows, he knows
Speaker 1: what he was doing. It didn't work. Um, she said,
Speaker 1: being an idiot right now, and he moved on kindly. Kindly,
Speaker 1: she kindly said that can I can I play an
Speaker 1: interaction between her and Lindsey Graham where he was also
Speaker 1: wasting everybody's time And I love interactions where senators waste
Speaker 1: time and being and being an Assholeum, motherfucker. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: I get this club for you guys, give me it all.
Speaker 1: What faith are you, by the way, Senator, I am
Speaker 1: um Protestant, okay, nondenominational? Could you fairly judge a Catholic senator? Question?
Speaker 1: Is that judging everyone. I'm just asking this question because
Speaker 1: because you're an asshole, is your faith to you Senator personally? Um?
Speaker 1: My faith is very important. Um. But as you know,
Speaker 1: there's no religious tests in the Constitution under under Article six. God,
Speaker 1: God damn it. It's just I was gonna say before
Speaker 1: we played this that we should let Supreme Court candidates
Speaker 1: hit one person with a brick during their confirmation hearings.
Speaker 1: But that's not going to be enough. It's not enough
Speaker 1: good death glare though not death clare. But she's got like,
Speaker 1: while keeping her voice calm, her eyes say, are you
Speaker 1: fucking she knows what she was stepping into. Yes, she did.
Speaker 1: It's not her first day, she knows, not her first
Speaker 1: rodeo the Senate is in general, what kind of question
Speaker 1: is could you fairly judge a Catholic? Well, again, he
Speaker 1: voted for her, firmed her months ago. As a judge,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say right now, I could not fairly
Speaker 1: judge of Catholic because as a papist, they cannot be
Speaker 1: trusted to fairly apply the law. They're always going to
Speaker 1: be a servant of the Vatican, just like John Fitzgerald Kennedy,
Speaker 1: which is why Bernard Sanders had to shoot him. Robert, Robert,
Speaker 1: you're letting it. You're letting it all out in the bag.
Speaker 1: I would have been like, now they know, we'll return
Speaker 1: to that later. I would have been like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: judged them all the time. I think it's fair. I
Speaker 1: don't know there's a better joke in there. I mean,
Speaker 1: she did a great job with all these freaks, um,
Speaker 1: these papists, I got more. Should we take another ad
Speaker 1: break here, let's take let's take an ad break here
Speaker 1: together everything so don't don't don't mars. That works as grammatically.
Speaker 1: Both both are fine, Both are fine. Um. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: United States, the Biden administration, i should say, has declared, um,
Speaker 1: what the government of the military junta and well not
Speaker 1: just the military junta because it was actually done under
Speaker 1: um the president who was recently deposed by the military
Speaker 1: as well on song Succhi. Um. But yeah, the Biden
Speaker 1: administration has declared what the military and government to me
Speaker 1: and mar did against the Rohinga the ethnic cleansing which
Speaker 1: took place over about you know, the several years up
Speaker 1: until the present point as a genocide, five years about
Speaker 1: five years. Good, it is good? How come it took
Speaker 1: Sister Robert well, you know, in the US recognizing a
Speaker 1: genocide terms. This was not a bad turn around, because
Speaker 1: you have to, but it's really hard. It was a
Speaker 1: year ago that Biden recognized the Armenian genocide from years ago.
Speaker 1: I remember that. I do remember that, and so that's
Speaker 1: a point well taken. But I UM, along with a
Speaker 1: lot of our listeners, I think, have been horrified by
Speaker 1: this a lot of things that happen around the world,
Speaker 1: and it is especially frustrating. While good as this is, uh,
Speaker 1: it is especially frustrating to see the swiftness of our
Speaker 1: response UM to what's happening in Ukraine and the attention
Speaker 1: of the world. And this has been happening for five years,
Speaker 1: you know, the warrant gray like it's just anyway, why
Speaker 1: you're not going to see nearly as much movement on
Speaker 1: the part. Part of why I suspect the Biden administration
Speaker 1: was made this decision now after five years, is because
Speaker 1: what's happening in Myanmar is connected to what's happening in Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Because the top Medaw the military are armed by the Russians.
Speaker 1: They're using Russian planes and and not Russian small arms.
Speaker 1: They actually have a pretty significant indigenous small arms industry
Speaker 1: that the military does. But they're using a lot of
Speaker 1: Russian UM artillery and aircraft UM in order to crack
Speaker 1: down on the rebels in the civil war, and they
Speaker 1: were using it before in the genocide. Whereas what the
Speaker 1: what's happened in Armenia recently, UM, the the war a
Speaker 1: Zerbijan carried out, which has genocidal elements, what's happening in
Speaker 1: uh Tigray, UM, and what's happening between the the the
Speaker 1: Turks and the Kurds in southern Turkey and in Northeast
Speaker 1: Syria UM, those all have genocidal elements as well. But
Speaker 1: in all of those cases UM, either the Turkish nation,
Speaker 1: which is the second largest military and NATO is directly
Speaker 1: involved as they are in the genocide in h the
Speaker 1: or the ethnic cleansings at least in his Aerbijan and
Speaker 1: the genocides genocidal acts against the Kurds UM or in
Speaker 1: the case of Tigray, Turkey is heavily arming the Ethiopian
Speaker 1: government and in fact, the rebels in Tigray were pretty
Speaker 1: close to taking the cap before the same brackt drones
Speaker 1: that people are celebrating in Ukraine were sent by Turkey
Speaker 1: to the Ethiopian government, which allowed them to turn back
Speaker 1: the advance of the rebels. So part of why you're
Speaker 1: seeing this recognized now is that the US government's interests
Speaker 1: are in doing so as opposed to recognizing that there
Speaker 1: are genocides that are allied Turkey is involved in. UM
Speaker 1: less in elect that makes sense, UM, disappointingly but makes sense. UM. Ill.
Speaker 1: So I know that you guys have been talking UM
Speaker 1: or have covered the civil war and what's happening over
Speaker 1: there a lot on UM it could happen here, but UM,
Speaker 1: why don't for our listeners that maybe don't know what's
Speaker 1: happening over there? A was elected in a landslide last
Speaker 1: year one reelected and then um immediately the military UH
Speaker 1: stage to coup and overthrew her and has imprisoned her
Speaker 1: under a variety of charges. She's seventy six. I think
Speaker 1: she's currently facing six years or eight years in prison
Speaker 1: and is another charge on top of that all about
Speaker 1: like I don't know what it was, staplers or something
Speaker 1: like something. Yeah, there was just like COVID protocols being breached.
Speaker 1: That yeah, UM, And since since then, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: it started with a huge um national strike that uh
Speaker 1: you know, and everybody was engaged in watching for a while.
Speaker 1: But then you know, attention. Of course, Peter's off on
Speaker 1: the national stage. Um Roberts. Can you fill us in
Speaker 1: a little bit on the stuff that's been going on?
Speaker 1: Sure it is. There were a bunch of protests. The
Speaker 1: government responded eventually to those protests by just shooting a
Speaker 1: lot of people to death with live ammunition, both the
Speaker 1: military and the police doing that, And so a bunch
Speaker 1: of folks were like, well, I guess let's go to
Speaker 1: the Jungles, A sizeable chunk of what is referred to
Speaker 1: as Myanmar as like a state is actually not under
Speaker 1: the control of the government and hasn't been for a while.
Speaker 1: It's under the control of like the what are the
Speaker 1: ethnic armed organizations is one of the terms you'll see
Speaker 1: form And they're different kind of tribal groups that have
Speaker 1: a large degree aboutonomy. I think the biggest being the
Speaker 1: karin Um and they have been in some cases fighting
Speaker 1: like an insurgency against the government in all cases kind
Speaker 1: of uneasily preserving their autonomy. And it's a complicated story,
Speaker 1: but a lot of these rebels when the military hunter
Speaker 1: took power like fled to these areas and were trained
Speaker 1: by these indigenous armed organizations and are now and have
Speaker 1: been ever since over the last year so fighting a
Speaker 1: civil war against the military of Myanmar, the tommadaw UM
Speaker 1: and that's that is ongoing to this day. And so
Speaker 1: large chunks of the rural areas are, if not in
Speaker 1: control of rebels or e a o s, out of
Speaker 1: the control of the state. But the state, which by
Speaker 1: which when we say the state in mean while we're
Speaker 1: referring to the military, does control the cities UM or
Speaker 1: at least the bulk of the cities. You know, there's
Speaker 1: areas and whatever. It's it's it's a it's a pretty
Speaker 1: complicated conflict. It does not get a lot of attention
Speaker 1: UM in the United States. If you'd like more to
Speaker 1: know more about that, I would recommend checking out the
Speaker 1: four part series we did on It could Happen Here
Speaker 1: about the war in Myanmar. UM. There's a lot that's
Speaker 1: that's quite interesting about what's going on there, including the
Speaker 1: prevalence of Generation Z militias, which is how they refer
Speaker 1: to them, which is kind of made up of these
Speaker 1: kids who were the first generation in Myanmar to have
Speaker 1: internet access and who grew up with a great degree
Speaker 1: of freedom and feeling connected to the international community. And
Speaker 1: then UM, you know, are rebelled when the government was like,
Speaker 1: well that's all gonna end. We're not willing to accept that.
Speaker 1: UM and who have been experimenting with a lot of
Speaker 1: really different kind of horizontal organizational structures in in opposition
Speaker 1: both to the government and also kind of counter to
Speaker 1: how a lot of these e A o s handle
Speaker 1: things which are more kind of traditional insurgent military structures. UM.
Speaker 1: And there's also a lot of like homemade weapons, UM,
Speaker 1: including three D printed arms that are increasingly becoming like
Speaker 1: a factor on the battlefield. It's a it's an interesting
Speaker 1: conflict and one that doesn't get a lot of attention,
Speaker 1: in part because you know, at Southeast Asia, UM, in
Speaker 1: part because most people have not heard much about Myanmar.
Speaker 1: It was not a country up until pretty recently that
Speaker 1: was very connected globally to to the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: You know, again, from most of its history, it's been
Speaker 1: like a series of dictatorships UM for most of its
Speaker 1: modern history. Because it was also like a British colony
Speaker 1: and in fact George Orwell was actually a policeman in Burma. Um, like, yes,
Speaker 1: that was one of a kind of foundational experience for him.
Speaker 1: Was like helping to brutally apply British rule in this
Speaker 1: colony and then having feelings about it. And then there's
Speaker 1: a whole conversation of course about the white colonizers and
Speaker 1: how that has affected how the country are very established.
Speaker 1: Um so, how what does the United States Joe Biden
Speaker 1: declaring this genocide? What does that do? I mean, it's
Speaker 1: good other than publicly acknowledging that recognizing it does it.
Speaker 1: That's all it's doing at this point. There's unless one
Speaker 1: the thing that the Biden administration could do is provide
Speaker 1: the rebels in mean Mar with some of the same
Speaker 1: equipment we're providing Ukraine. Primarily, there's a lot of talk
Speaker 1: of no fly zones and um, you know, usually again
Speaker 1: we we've we've chatted about this a bit on our shows.
Speaker 1: Usually when people talk about those, they are referring to
Speaker 1: like the idea of sending in US RNATO aircraft to
Speaker 1: stop other aircraft for making in an area. But one
Speaker 1: way you can apply a no fly zone without doing
Speaker 1: that is by shipping a lot of anti aircraft weapons,
Speaker 1: which is what we're doing now Ukraine, right, we're doing
Speaker 1: in Ukraine. And you know, Aim Stout and I when
Speaker 1: we were working on our story in Mianmar, were in
Speaker 1: pretty regular contact with the twenty three year old kids,
Speaker 1: all Lynn, who was a member of a militia Generation,
Speaker 1: one of the gen Z militias in Myanmar, and so
Speaker 1: he would chat with him, and then we would see
Speaker 1: footage of him fighting the Topmadaw and footage of him
Speaker 1: hanging out with his girlfriend who was wounded by a
Speaker 1: mortar like while we were chatting with him, um. And
Speaker 1: then a couple of days after we started dropping the episodes,
Speaker 1: he got killed by an air strike. UM. And it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where the government has air supremacy
Speaker 1: because the rebels, you know again they're they're like cobbling
Speaker 1: together their own rifles. They certainly don't have aircraft. UM.
Speaker 1: So if you want to say, like, what could the
Speaker 1: US be doing, there's an argument to be made for
Speaker 1: providing anti air weapons to the rebels, But if we're
Speaker 1: not going to do that, then effectively the only real
Speaker 1: they impact this has well, at least we're acknowledging it's
Speaker 1: a genocide. So right now, what is the impact this
Speaker 1: is going to have on the war in Myanmar? Nothing?
Speaker 1: Um that that that's the short answer. It's not going
Speaker 1: to do anything. That said, I'm always supportive of the
Speaker 1: United States being like, hey, look at genocide. That's a genocide.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's good to recognize it. Like we have
Speaker 1: the most we can all argue about, like what is
Speaker 1: reasonable and what is ethical when it comes to like
Speaker 1: providing weapons. You know, those are complicated discussions to be had,
Speaker 1: but the minimum everyone should do when there's a genocide
Speaker 1: is be like, well that that looks like what it is.
Speaker 1: That's definitely a genocide. We should at least be able
Speaker 1: to agree on that. Yeah. So I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's bad. I think I would go so far
Speaker 1: to say it's good that the Biden administration recognized it
Speaker 1: as a genocide. But I don't think at the moment,
Speaker 1: I've seen no evidence that Biden administration is going to
Speaker 1: take any actions that will material materially affect circumstances on
Speaker 1: their own. R Yeah, okay, well thank you for that.
Speaker 1: Speaking of war, you know what else is a war?
Speaker 1: What ending a pod cast episode? Yeah, I can be
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