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Speaker 1: the second annual Mark Sessler Mock Draft coming your way
Speaker 1: in a few minutes. But first, some developing news and
Speaker 1: the National Football League, our league. Rob Gronkowski is back
Speaker 1: in the NFL, but not with his former team. The
Speaker 1: New England Patriots said goodbye to Tom Brady. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: went to Tampa, and now Gronk has followed tom Brady
Speaker 1: to Tampa. The trade is official. It happened very quickly.
Speaker 1: The Bucks acquired the tight end from the Patriots in
Speaker 1: exchange for a fourth round pick. Unbelievable turn of events
Speaker 1: here as Gronk ends his year long retirement and teams
Speaker 1: with the quarterback who we went to the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with seemingly four years in the row. Uh Dan hansis
Speaker 1: joined by Mark Sessler, Chris Westing, and Greg Rosenthal. Greg
Speaker 1: your thoughts when the news went down? I mean, am
Speaker 1: I gonna have to root for the bucks. I guess
Speaker 1: I am a little bit. I know that's uh heretical
Speaker 1: to say in New England, but watching Tom Brady throw
Speaker 1: to grab Gronkowski sounds like fun to me. It was shocking.
Speaker 1: It was shocking that it happened so quickly and quietly,
Speaker 1: that the physical was already taken as we're taping this
Speaker 1: like it's official, you know, just to pull behind the peak,
Speaker 1: behind the curtain at the end of this show with
Speaker 1: the mock draft, you know, we were just hearing that
Speaker 1: it's possible Rob Gronkowski would be coming back, and you know,
Speaker 1: within a half hour it it had already happened. Like
Speaker 1: every insider in the business did not know this was
Speaker 1: happening until basically it was already over. And it's a
Speaker 1: killer for Patriots fans, who, um are gonna be sad
Speaker 1: watching them in a different uniform. But Ricky is dying
Speaker 1: and we'll get to her. But it's it's such a
Speaker 1: great um, I don't know, it's just like chance for
Speaker 1: Gronk and Brady to try something totally different, and I
Speaker 1: think it could totally blow up in their face and
Speaker 1: it could be a disappointment. The expectations are gonna be
Speaker 1: so high. They're they're both high risk players right now,
Speaker 1: but it's also like a high reward like if they
Speaker 1: make it to the playoffs that win a game, that's
Speaker 1: just gonna be fun and weird and different, and it
Speaker 1: makes this season UM all the more UM important in
Speaker 1: my mind to get started on time, and hopefully it will.
Speaker 1: It became one of the tropes on our podcast that
Speaker 1: last year Bruce arians might not have the same love
Speaker 1: for the game UM that he had in Arizona, and
Speaker 1: he might just be playing out the string here and
Speaker 1: the opposite has happened his lifetime football philosophy, no risk it,
Speaker 1: no biscuit is exactly how the Buccaneers have played this offseason,
Speaker 1: going full boar after Tom Brady and then to bring
Speaker 1: in Gronk, the two greatest to ever to play their positions. UH.
Speaker 1: To me, the question is whether two thousand and twenty
Speaker 1: Gronk is an upgrade on on O. J. Howard, because
Speaker 1: the last time we saw these two guys in two
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen, O. G. Howard played a lot better than Gronk,
Speaker 1: and Gronk was running on fumes for most of the
Speaker 1: season he had the high ankle sprain. But we didn't
Speaker 1: know if a lot of that was the accumulation of
Speaker 1: age and injuries. And to his credit, he came up
Speaker 1: big in the FC Title game in the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: but that Super Bowl offense was not impressive from the
Speaker 1: Patriots at all. I I think it's a player that
Speaker 1: the year off UM could help immensely. And you know,
Speaker 1: on our our live Twitter show we played an over
Speaker 1: under game of what his line might be if he
Speaker 1: played six team games. I think it's convincingly um statistically
Speaker 1: not going to be anything close to what you might
Speaker 1: expect from Grunk that would be my guests, but UM
Speaker 1: canny be a huge difference and help them if you
Speaker 1: get a one rejuvenated, healthy version of Rob Wronkowski. I
Speaker 1: think so. And then it it meant in a in
Speaker 1: a weird again and in an offseason that could be
Speaker 1: completely um tilted. You've got Brady teamed with someone who
Speaker 1: the two of them know their movements, there, their reaction time,
Speaker 1: the way they see defense is so they're so in
Speaker 1: sync that it's a it's a great signing for the
Speaker 1: great trade for the Bucks. Uh. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: my caution in general is this happens to us every year.
Speaker 1: One of these teams looks like they're just gonna zoom
Speaker 1: right into the super Bowl. And and you know, you're
Speaker 1: all these tweets. No teams played a super Bowl in
Speaker 1: their home stadium, but this Bucks team might. Well, there's
Speaker 1: a long, long way ago, and there's a lot of variables.
Speaker 1: Are the Bucks though? I mean, what are the Bucks?
Speaker 1: Who have been hidden away, um in the nether world
Speaker 1: for so long? Are they suddenly fascinating? Absolutely? And I'm
Speaker 1: with Greg in the sense that it palpably ups the
Speaker 1: interest in the season because it's such a weird team
Speaker 1: to suddenly be at the absolute core of everything that's happening.
Speaker 1: I think everyone is on the same page there. The
Speaker 1: Bucks are a huge subplot to the season because of Brady,
Speaker 1: and now Gronk adds to it. Yeah, I think there
Speaker 1: is some enthusiasm that should be tempered a little bit,
Speaker 1: and because I think a lot of fantasy drafters and
Speaker 1: just in general, like a lot of football fans are
Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, look out, Gronks back and he's got
Speaker 1: a year off, his body is gonna be back to normal.
Speaker 1: He was his last season in the league in New England,
Speaker 1: you know, playing with what looked like a stick fork
Speaker 1: forks sticking out of his back. And he showed up
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and Pete Gronk was back, and I wonder,
Speaker 1: if you know, the bye week going into the divisional playoffs,
Speaker 1: then the bye week going into the super Bowl, if
Speaker 1: he's a guy that could still be an impact player,
Speaker 1: but he needs to be managed snaps even weeks. If
Speaker 1: that's where he is now that he's a player in
Speaker 1: his thirties, so I think that at some point you've
Speaker 1: got to not expect him to be the gron However,
Speaker 1: for a fourth round pick and the fact that the
Speaker 1: potential that it brings, in the excitement that it brings,
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer, Ricky. It's a no brainer for
Speaker 1: Gronk to want to come out of retirement. He was
Speaker 1: sick of playing for Bill Belichick. He was his body
Speaker 1: was beat up. And now Tom goes to Tampa, a
Speaker 1: beautiful place to live, a fun coach to play for.
Speaker 1: You gotta be happy for Gronk, who, let's face it,
Speaker 1: and I was saying it on this podcast for months
Speaker 1: the day he retired, there's no way this guy was
Speaker 1: gonna stay out of football. He came back, and I
Speaker 1: guess the only surprises that he didn't come back to
Speaker 1: New England, he went to a new team. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's really really kind of tough, Like I'm excited for
Speaker 1: him that he's back. It does like hurt that it
Speaker 1: feels like the Patriots were home for these guys forever
Speaker 1: they were. Can you put violins under what you're saying? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's just like it really does sting to watch
Speaker 1: what you loved so deeply about your team, your hometown
Speaker 1: team that you've you know, lived and died on the
Speaker 1: hills with with just you know, you talk about sports,
Speaker 1: make you forget about dying, and it is like they're
Speaker 1: these incredible, incredible dynasty moments with this team, and now
Speaker 1: what sort of made that dynasty is gone. And it's
Speaker 1: not just gone, it's it's flirting around in a convertible
Speaker 1: down in South Learning, it's going all the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's like seeing your X with
Speaker 1: someone like way better looking. It just it just hurts.
Speaker 1: You want them to just be gone. I want them
Speaker 1: one of them to retire. Let's come down on the
Speaker 1: pirate ship and Bruce arians in his third act being
Speaker 1: way better looking. Here the thing though the Patriots. You
Speaker 1: can't take away what Rob Gronkowski gave you as a fan,
Speaker 1: and gave any Patriots fan. You can't take away that
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. The Bucks are getting Rob Gronkowski at
Speaker 1: the wrong time and and maybe it'll pay off, Like
Speaker 1: this deal is a no brainer for them. It was
Speaker 1: a no brainer for the Patriots too. They really didn't
Speaker 1: have much choice because his money would have put them
Speaker 1: way over the cap. They had to take what they
Speaker 1: could get. Guys coming out of retirement aren't just just
Speaker 1: not gonna get much. It's what Brett Farve got was
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. Tom Brady's at the very tail
Speaker 1: end of his career, Bruce Arians is at the very
Speaker 1: tail enderscore. And maybe it works, um, but maybe it's
Speaker 1: just like my point is like, like, what what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Like it, I get that, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I can just be like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: for the cap and everything, good job by the Patriots
Speaker 1: like they did. It's not a good jobs he was retired,
Speaker 1: but so like if they go six and ten, is
Speaker 1: that gonna like make you happier? Oh, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it's going to make me happy? More like Dynasty
Speaker 1: d I e am. I right. Your quarterback had Mono Dan,
Speaker 1: he had motto he's recovered. It reminds me they had
Speaker 1: the Redskins, what was it, the George Allen teams, the
Speaker 1: over the Hill gang that they had back in the seventies,
Speaker 1: which you know that that's kind of what this is
Speaker 1: and it makes it fun. And Mike Evans and Godwin
Speaker 1: are there and they have a young, fun defense. So
Speaker 1: on paper, they are a really interesting team. I think
Speaker 1: that's what makes them interesting. That you can't compare them
Speaker 1: to the Overhead Gang because you're just talking about Brady
Speaker 1: and Gronk and the rest of the team is young.
Speaker 1: You have the young receivers, you have a really young defense.
Speaker 1: I mean you've got j pp and and Dominican Sue
Speaker 1: who are still playing at a pretty high level and
Speaker 1: they're over thirty. But that's a young defense there in
Speaker 1: the front step. I mean, Greg, I will say that
Speaker 1: you have I know, I know, and I at this
Speaker 1: point fully almost almost entirely believe your patriots stance um
Speaker 1: and where you're coming from. Oh that's great, almost believe that.
Speaker 1: I almost believe it. But I just would say that
Speaker 1: you have to acknowledge that you are in complete discord
Speaker 1: with like huge chunks of Patriots fans everywhere who don't.
Speaker 1: They don't. It's not their responsibility. Sports is is combative.
Speaker 1: It's not their responsibility to you know, roll into the
Speaker 1: sports bar and be so excited to see Brady throwing
Speaker 1: four touchdowns to Gronk and week one and say this
Speaker 1: is just perfect, Like they're gonna be I rate and
Speaker 1: sports fans. Part of it is suspending uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the West, the rest of the world around you, but
Speaker 1: also common sense, and you lose yourself to emotion and
Speaker 1: everything else. And like I kind of get where Ricky
Speaker 1: is coming from more so than I do from the
Speaker 1: Euroro Bucks fan now. And I'm not a football guy.
Speaker 1: I like I like football more than than I like
Speaker 1: the Patriots, for sure, but I am there is part
Speaker 1: of me that that likes the idea of the Patriots
Speaker 1: with jared'stid um, you know, being kind of a team
Speaker 1: that's under the radar. That's that's how they started. And
Speaker 1: the Gronk part of it, to me, he didn't want
Speaker 1: to play for Belichick. I think if you listen to
Speaker 1: Jeff Darlington's reporting, that was pretty clear his body was
Speaker 1: gone and it's found money, and it's like, what do
Speaker 1: what do we like as sports fans? Is there any
Speaker 1: gratitude or any appreciation for like the players and the
Speaker 1: humans themselves or are we just cheering laundry? To me,
Speaker 1: it's more about the It's more about those players, like
Speaker 1: don't you think. Yeah? But I think the appreciating Gronk
Speaker 1: and Brady thing might come a few years from now
Speaker 1: when they go back to foxbor or a Beautiful Nights ceremony.
Speaker 1: It's not going to be at this day. Well, he's
Speaker 1: a little chronic back injury. I guess that's the part
Speaker 1: of it too. It's like he has chronic back problems
Speaker 1: and it's worth the shot if you're the Bucks. But
Speaker 1: it's not like you're thinking these guys are gonna suddenly
Speaker 1: take over the league. These are the same two guys
Speaker 1: that we were saying we're absolutely done, like more than
Speaker 1: a year ago. But if you're game planning for a
Speaker 1: team that has Gronkowski on the field, regardless if he's
Speaker 1: gonna show up or not, all of a sudden, your
Speaker 1: headspace is going to that he is automatically And this
Speaker 1: greg to your point, Yes, I imagine as a Patriots
Speaker 1: and especially Patriots fan like you. There's a little bit
Speaker 1: of uh excitement to the idea of the Patriots has
Speaker 1: a true underdog with a fourth round pick as their starter.
Speaker 1: But you know, get back to me seven years from now,
Speaker 1: when when this stuff is still going on there under
Speaker 1: the radar, Like the being under the radar is maybe
Speaker 1: fun for a couple of months, and then it stinks,
Speaker 1: and I think that that's that's this new this new
Speaker 1: world of the Patriots. There is a lot of unknowns
Speaker 1: about are they going to be able to put this
Speaker 1: thing back together quickly or are we going into a
Speaker 1: long hibernation where this team that mattered more than anyone
Speaker 1: else doesn't matter. And just seeing Gronk and Brady on
Speaker 1: different teams and seeing this team in the state, this
Speaker 1: flux and this general unknown that that to me is
Speaker 1: like just crazy to think that it's finally happening. And
Speaker 1: although we knew Gronk wasn't playing with the Patriots this year,
Speaker 1: just another reminder that time has moved on. What do
Speaker 1: the Patriots do next? That's one of the great intrigues
Speaker 1: in the league going forward, it is, and and it
Speaker 1: puts so much into this draft for the Patriots and
Speaker 1: we'll get to Mark Mark's mock draft soon. I mean,
Speaker 1: one of the big losers here. If we didn't mention
Speaker 1: it would be that Mark. But but he's not a loser.
Speaker 1: He's a big time winner. Because it happened. Mark predicts
Speaker 1: that Gronkowski has got to be a member of the
Speaker 1: Bucks by the end of May during the mock draft,
Speaker 1: and then and then it happens by the end of
Speaker 1: the day. Forget the end of May. Well, I'm slightly
Speaker 1: annoyed that my standalone mock draft episode has been utterly
Speaker 1: upended by Gronkowski in the Bucks in general, and believe me,
Speaker 1: it changes how I feel about the Bucks. I do
Speaker 1: have one last thing. You mentioned that Gronk and Brady
Speaker 1: of practice together before. I do think we've almost underplayed
Speaker 1: or not known what to say about the whole fact
Speaker 1: that this season either may not happen, may not happen
Speaker 1: on time, there may not be any practices, you know,
Speaker 1: or the the same normal amount of practice. To me,
Speaker 1: that is a huge X factor, and it is something
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about with every transaction, including this trade.
Speaker 1: It's like you're trading you're getting a draft pick, and
Speaker 1: you're trading a guy. We don't know if this seasons,
Speaker 1: We don't know what's going to happen in anything, like
Speaker 1: why why give out signing bonuses? Why give out a
Speaker 1: lot of things when you don't know if the season
Speaker 1: is going to be happening. It feels like a worthwhile question. YEP,
Speaker 1: I'll leave it with Game of Thrones. The North remembers
Speaker 1: it's not scared of Jared's Didham and all the bitter
Speaker 1: Patriots fans up there that want to see these guys
Speaker 1: failed down South. The hope is that this is the
Speaker 1: NFL version of Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett going to
Speaker 1: the Nets that you know, well, the Celtics got a
Speaker 1: bounty from the next Yeah, they're not getting Jayson Tatum
Speaker 1: and Jalen Brown and return unfortunately, But a similar situation
Speaker 1: where Nets fans got fired up, they had these legends
Speaker 1: and then the guys couldn't really play anymore. The Bucks
Speaker 1: are hoping that doesn't happen, and I don't think it does.
Speaker 1: But you can't rule it out that these guys don't
Speaker 1: fall on their face. Right. The long line of NFL
Speaker 1: build a teams that simply just don't seem to work
Speaker 1: the way it does in other sports to some degree.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's go against that, against that trend entirely.
Speaker 1: We're more to the point for Patriots fans that everything
Speaker 1: that we've been saying about Bill Belichick the last two
Speaker 1: decades wasn't total b s because if he has the
Speaker 1: team building and the expertise and the defense and everything
Speaker 1: that we've said he had, it's like they're gonna be competitive.
Speaker 1: Nothing changed because they picked up a fourth round pick
Speaker 1: for Rob Gronkowski. We're about to find out. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: good stuff. We'll probably talk more about this on tomorrow's
Speaker 1: episode of Around the NFL Podcast, but for now, let's
Speaker 1: now spend back in time Mark Sessler. The stage is
Speaker 1: finally yours the second Annual Mock Draft. Take it away us. Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: welcome to the second annual Mark Sessler NFL Mock Draft,
Speaker 1: presented by the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is
Speaker 1: Dan Hansus, and I am joined by two of the
Speaker 1: most esteemed colleagues in the NFL world. It is Greg
Speaker 1: Don't call me Rosie Rosenthal and Chris the Mailman Westling.
Speaker 1: What's up, fellas? Hey, Nan, unbelievable, We're back all right,
Speaker 1: that's enough. I mean, if that doesn't get you in
Speaker 1: the mood from mock draft, what will it is? It
Speaker 1: is so amazing the time flies, folks, even in a pandemic.
Speaker 1: You cannot stop the Mark Sessler mock draft. And why
Speaker 1: don't we welcome in the man of the hour, the
Speaker 1: man who he's screaming for respect in the business. Not
Speaker 1: sure if you're one of the mock draft in it,
Speaker 1: but you know, if you keep doing it, if you
Speaker 1: keep showing up, something is gonna stick. Mark Seessler, Hey, buddy,
Speaker 1: how you doing? I think it's a um, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure last year did it? I would start there, but
Speaker 1: I can't get my employer to put this on our website.
Speaker 1: So that's hell. Whatever. They people who don't even work
Speaker 1: for the NFL on there mock Draft Central. It is
Speaker 1: an interesting strategy. You're thinking, Okay, how can I get respect?
Speaker 1: How can I stand out in the NFL industry. I'll
Speaker 1: do a mock draft. How do we get paid? That'll
Speaker 1: set me apart? Yeah, it's not setting me apart. It's
Speaker 1: not original and I'm not getting paid for it. And famously,
Speaker 1: one of the Shadowy League figures, John Marvel said last
Speaker 1: year when asked if this mock draft or the two
Speaker 1: nineteen mock draft would go on the website, he said,
Speaker 1: are you insane? And that's that's what we're up against
Speaker 1: here at the Mark Sesler mock draft, that type of
Speaker 1: stigma that this shouldn't be taken seriously. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you something, for the second consecutive year, Mark Sessler
Speaker 1: has put in the work, and he's plugged in, and
Speaker 1: he's been in the industry for a decade now, and
Speaker 1: it's time for you to hear this man. Listen to him. No, No,
Speaker 1: the quiet storm roars tonight or today, it's unfathomable to
Speaker 1: put Mark's mock draft. And with a bunch of others
Speaker 1: the average for right answers, I like my odds here.
Speaker 1: Come on, did you did you put in the necessary
Speaker 1: work to get this level of support from your friends
Speaker 1: and colleagues? I mean when I when I promised to
Speaker 1: do this project and take this on UM as a
Speaker 1: new wrinkle in my career. UM, you know I I
Speaker 1: I vowed that I would spend no less than two
Speaker 1: hours on this and UM came close to that time limit.
Speaker 1: A little bit more than that, but not a lot more. Um,
Speaker 1: but I did. I. I will say this, Um, it
Speaker 1: caused me some consternation because my initial idea was to
Speaker 1: go do things that no one else would do, and
Speaker 1: um in I would say, adding some in total insanity
Speaker 1: into it. And I kind of checked myself at the
Speaker 1: door because I take this exercise um seriously, and I'm
Speaker 1: looking to come out of here with some accurate bulls
Speaker 1: eyes and nothing less than that unbelievable accurate bull size.
Speaker 1: Everybody that is that is something uh to respect. That's
Speaker 1: the goal, concise right. I could not have said that
Speaker 1: any more concisely. Erica. Are you excited for the second annual?
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler? Oh my god, I could not be more
Speaker 1: excited this. This is the greatest day of this week
Speaker 1: for sure. More like, Mark Sessler, did you even know
Speaker 1: this was happening today? Erica? I did, Mark? I did. Okay,
Speaker 1: Dan sent me a text about an hour ago asking
Speaker 1: for some applause and stuff like that. So okay, Well,
Speaker 1: let's not pull back the curtain, Erica. All right, So
Speaker 1: this is how we're gonna go. We're gonna go through
Speaker 1: round one. We will track these pits. We will go
Speaker 1: through round one, tracking each of Mark's selections and uh,
Speaker 1: come Thursday day night. Maybe Saturday actually might be the
Speaker 1: better time to do it. We'll circle back and see
Speaker 1: how the kid did. See how the kid did? That
Speaker 1: reminds me of when Uh Schreeger was on the show
Speaker 1: last week and Schreeger's younger than Mark and called market kid.
Speaker 1: He said, you know, this kid writes some of the
Speaker 1: best stuff on the internet. I think he's sort of
Speaker 1: viewing me as someone a bit of a naife in
Speaker 1: the industry, Um, a child in the football industry. Well child,
Speaker 1: no more more, child becomes man. Starting with the first
Speaker 1: overall pick, and how many of you get before we
Speaker 1: get going, Mark, how many of these are you guaranteeing?
Speaker 1: You know how it's good people in the industry and
Speaker 1: the gambling industry, which we don't condone that, but they'll say, uh,
Speaker 1: we guarantee you'll get a winner if you call our
Speaker 1: hotline and give us your credit card number. How many
Speaker 1: guaranteed winners are you gonna give the listeners here to
Speaker 1: to know that your brand is legit and stands above
Speaker 1: all the rest. The new Mayok guaranteeing five picks, guaranteeing
Speaker 1: five out of thirty two ladies and gentlemen. How about that?
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. Mark Sessler with the
Speaker 1: first overall pick, the Cincinnati Bengals. Are they trading out?
Speaker 1: They are not. They're gonna do the uh, the smart
Speaker 1: thing this time. All right, let's hear it. They are
Speaker 1: taking quarterback Joe Burrow out of out of l s U. Alright,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, the quarterback, the number one passing prospect on
Speaker 1: the board, no question, right, Well, this is the first
Speaker 1: opportunity to try to be different than everyone else. But um,
Speaker 1: all my sources and all the information that I have,
Speaker 1: uh tell me that the Bengals um have made this pick.
Speaker 1: And you know, like with all number one picks, that
Speaker 1: the NFL doesn't want you to say anything. And we
Speaker 1: get that dog and pony show part of it. But
Speaker 1: this is where the Bengals are going, no questions asked,
Speaker 1: all right. Number two. There's some speculation around the number
Speaker 1: two pick in the draft of Washington Redskins. Hold it.
Speaker 1: Are they going to stay where they are and make
Speaker 1: a selection or they're moving out? Well, based on hearing
Speaker 1: West's opinions about the Redskins fielding calls pre show, I'm
Speaker 1: very glad that I stayed right at home here and
Speaker 1: had Washington take Chase Young or we would lose West.
Speaker 1: Very early in this broadcast, um Chase Young the edge
Speaker 1: dynamo out of Ohio State West. It's not it's not
Speaker 1: so much the idea that the Redskins shouldn't move out
Speaker 1: of the pick. It's just the idea was that people
Speaker 1: even speculating about such thing. That's what really annoys you. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that they haven't preempted CNN, MSNBC, and Fox
Speaker 1: News for this news that the Redskins, the team holding
Speaker 1: the number two pick in a football draft, are fielding
Speaker 1: phone calls about their pick, breaking news as a and
Speaker 1: now as a special surprise for West. Ian Rappaport has
Speaker 1: been listening this whole time, and it's coming onto this
Speaker 1: right in, come on in defend your news. Ian, Alright,
Speaker 1: the number three pick, Mark Selo, So so far chalk?
Speaker 1: And you know what if you're guaranteeing five out of
Speaker 1: thirty two and you're going chalk, I mean there's not
Speaker 1: what are I'm just I'm a fairly low number that
Speaker 1: I I would say I'm not and I would say that,
Speaker 1: you know, with one and two I knew that was
Speaker 1: not the dramatic starts some people would be looking for.
Speaker 1: But UM is the point to be totally insane with this?
Speaker 1: Or do I want to make it very clear to
Speaker 1: the football fan that I am extremely plugged in. UM
Speaker 1: says that this year more than any other. No one
Speaker 1: has any idea because no one's been talking that, the
Speaker 1: DJs and all this group think out there. Without these
Speaker 1: mockslet they might look sillier than ever. Not Mark, all right,
Speaker 1: the third pick in the draft. Third pick is where
Speaker 1: our first trade occurs, and the Lions, instead of staying home,
Speaker 1: trade the pick to the Atlanta Falcons, who aggressively are
Speaker 1: looking to move up. According to uh, not only my sources,
Speaker 1: but general news reports out there, and uh, the Falcons
Speaker 1: looking for a cornerback. They're gonna go Jeff Acuda cornerback
Speaker 1: Ohio State. And I think they feel very good about it.
Speaker 1: They feel very good. M Well, it makes sense. They
Speaker 1: just they just traded away Darius Slay, their best cornerback.
Speaker 1: I guess they gotta fill the void and they get
Speaker 1: a cheaper, younger alternative West Falcons. This is the Falcons.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Oh, silly me. I I apologize for that,
Speaker 1: but the Falcons obviously needed the cornerback help. Makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Trough would be making a stand here.
Speaker 1: He made his name with the Julio Jones trade. He
Speaker 1: feels like he's about as on the edge maybe in
Speaker 1: terms of job security, as he as he's ever been,
Speaker 1: and this would be a bold move by Thomas. Demit
Speaker 1: Demotrof or Dimitroff is how he does it, I believe. Okay,
Speaker 1: you almost think about going to Metro just because it's
Speaker 1: it rolls off the top, it sounds better. But but
Speaker 1: he's sort of started people correct. He's corrected him. So
Speaker 1: not only trading out of that spot, but a team
Speaker 1: trading up from sixteen, they don't have to give up
Speaker 1: a windfall. They would and the and the Falcons gave
Speaker 1: up a lot when they traded up to take Julio Jones. Also, um,
Speaker 1: it's not normally in their m O for the most part,
Speaker 1: but I have a feeling they're gonna do something, and
Speaker 1: that would be a surprise. If you spoke to people
Speaker 1: a month ago and you said I'm from the future.
Speaker 1: The Lions will trade out of that pick, and the
Speaker 1: team that trades in won't take a quarterback. But things
Speaker 1: have changed, at least some how. The draft insiders are
Speaker 1: painting things as we get closer the draft. All right,
Speaker 1: thank you, good comment. Pick four. Uh the Giants, you know,
Speaker 1: give me this nonsense about their you know, face timing
Speaker 1: with with Justin Herbert. I just I don't care what
Speaker 1: they're doing. Uh. Tom Brady was face timing with the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans and their staff. What does that mean in
Speaker 1: a basketball game? So I'm going right here. The Giants
Speaker 1: stay home and go Tristan Worth's offensive tackle, Iowa, the
Speaker 1: fields that go very I don't know heads or tails,
Speaker 1: what to make these? What teams think about these tackles?
Speaker 1: But um, worse is where I'm going. That's the that's
Speaker 1: the worst pick on the board. Oh, West, speak on it. No,
Speaker 1: I said it's the worst pick on Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think this is a good little line. Does that
Speaker 1: mean it was the worst or just okay, a little
Speaker 1: miscommunication there. Let's play on words. There's a plan words.
Speaker 1: I thought it had a double meeting that it also
Speaker 1: is a bad pick. Alright, No, I'm not gonna bury gentleman. Alright,
Speaker 1: the fifth overall pick in the draft. All right, and
Speaker 1: you know this is this to me is the first
Speaker 1: major turning point in the road. What are the Dolphins
Speaker 1: gonna do at number five? There's whispers that they might
Speaker 1: just go defense or offensive tackle here and try to
Speaker 1: get a quarterback later on. I don't buy that. I
Speaker 1: think that they after all of this business, um, they're
Speaker 1: gonna go with to uh our guy to out of
Speaker 1: Alabama and I and I flip flopped this in another pick,
Speaker 1: but going to a if I, if I did a mock,
Speaker 1: I I'd ignore all this noise that's happened, and I'd
Speaker 1: I'd imagine a scenario where Steven Ross and the Dolphins
Speaker 1: are patting themselves on the back for making everyone think
Speaker 1: they wouldn't take too when they really did. Yeah, I agree,
Speaker 1: I'm totally because we've heard forever they were connected to two.
Speaker 1: You know, this whole thing with the organic tank was
Speaker 1: to go get the quarterback. Are they really gonna pass
Speaker 1: on a QB in the top five. I just don't
Speaker 1: see it. And to it feels like a risky pick,
Speaker 1: but a lot of upside there. Uh. Good good job there, Mark.
Speaker 1: I like your your draft picks so far. You're flying
Speaker 1: right now. You've got one tackle off the board. You
Speaker 1: got a two qbs and edge rusher in a cornerback.
Speaker 1: And now that brings up the Chargers, another team that
Speaker 1: it makes sense that they would target a quarterback. Do
Speaker 1: they do it? They do? I I kind of got
Speaker 1: confused and what to do with this one a little bit,
Speaker 1: or I should say more just I was entranced by
Speaker 1: the idea of some of Justin Herbert falling. But I
Speaker 1: think the charge is gonna go Justin Herbert quarterback out
Speaker 1: of Oregon Um simply because if there's a narrative I
Speaker 1: do not buy, and if I'm proven wrong, I'll take
Speaker 1: it into note. But this idea that they're gonna sell
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor to the l A fan base while they're
Speaker 1: trying to sell tickets in a massive news stadium, not
Speaker 1: buying it. I think they're absolutely gonna have to find
Speaker 1: another answer at quarterback. And if it's not gonna be
Speaker 1: a Can Newton or something like that, and there's no
Speaker 1: buzz around that, I think you go with the less
Speaker 1: expensive rookie guy that you can, in theory play behind
Speaker 1: Tyrod for eight or nine hours until he takes over.
Speaker 1: Let's play the positive quote negative quote Bob McGinn game
Speaker 1: for Justin Herbert. Here here's a positive quote. If the
Speaker 1: Oregon kid had Alabama's receivers or Oklahoma's receivers or l
Speaker 1: s Us receivers, he'd be the best, one said a scout.
Speaker 1: And now here's the negative because we talked about it
Speaker 1: when McGinn was on the show, and uh, you know
Speaker 1: he likes to do the salt with the pepper, the
Speaker 1: oil with the vinegar. I like him to a degree.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's an elite player. He's kind of
Speaker 1: robotic and mechanical accuracies off. He has the classic looks
Speaker 1: of an NFL quarterback. That's the guy that has burned
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the past. Big tall, good
Speaker 1: looking interviews, well, smart, throws the ball a mile, all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Gabbert Jared Goff, not a lot of vision,
Speaker 1: not a really good playmaker. Mark kind of a shot
Speaker 1: across your bow in a way. Why it is. But
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with the scouting work that I've done on
Speaker 1: this player. And you know, you it's at that time
Speaker 1: a year where you just gotta dig in on your
Speaker 1: own beliefs. How would you like to be a Rams fan?
Speaker 1: And you hear Goff and blame gabrit mentioned in the
Speaker 1: same sentence as the same type of quarterback. Right that
Speaker 1: didn't that that scout the bad job. I mean, Jared Goff,
Speaker 1: if nothing else, does not have a big art and
Speaker 1: ant and it doesn't make sense. They're just saying like
Speaker 1: he's tall and white is basically what he's saying. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go seven eight nine, Mark, give us three picks. Alright,
Speaker 1: seven eight nine. The Panthers take Isaiah Simmons linebacker Clempson
Speaker 1: ideas one of the teams that people sort of feel
Speaker 1: like he could fit there where he's not a fit
Speaker 1: for everyone. Cardinals, um, you know, you think they're gonna
Speaker 1: go electrifying offense. They go Derek Brown, defensive tackle out
Speaker 1: of Auburn, who I think is going to be a
Speaker 1: plug and play Week one starter about that plug and
Speaker 1: play and what method And he is a big body, disruptor.
Speaker 1: He causes enormous problems for quarterback types. And if you're
Speaker 1: trying to run the ball, good luck on Derek Brown.
Speaker 1: That's not gonna be happening with I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: all there. It's everything that you can go watch five
Speaker 1: minutes of his tape and just it's a I'll go
Speaker 1: I'll follow my own instruction at some point um alright,
Speaker 1: and number nine Jaguars Jedrick Wills offensive Alabama. Alright. So
Speaker 1: another tackles off the board to the Jags, and then
Speaker 1: we have another trade to close out the top ten.
Speaker 1: Who saucy and it involves your favorite team, mark the
Speaker 1: team you love more than anything else in the whole
Speaker 1: wide world. I think, yes, the Browns are I think
Speaker 1: there's DNA in that front office again to want to
Speaker 1: value trading down and thinking that if they need to tackle,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of tackles that will be left over.
Speaker 1: They trade with the Bronchos, who I think are another
Speaker 1: team like the Falcons, that have been openly just honest
Speaker 1: about the fact that they might move up and they
Speaker 1: want one of these wide receivers. They're gonna jump into
Speaker 1: ten and take Jerry Judy wide receiver Alabama. Big need filled, right,
Speaker 1: that Judy the first off the board of the wide receivers.
Speaker 1: It's very John Elway to trade up in a you know,
Speaker 1: really deep receiver draft, uh for a receiver just like
Speaker 1: go all out, But that Jerry Judy and Cortland Sutton
Speaker 1: also sounds like a lot of fun, So I'm in it.
Speaker 1: I would say one thing on that, like I hear
Speaker 1: you that why do that? But the bottom line is
Speaker 1: there's gotta be two or three of these guys that
Speaker 1: are way better than the rest. Judy seems like the safest.
Speaker 1: Why would the Broncos telegraph their move for weeks that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I agree they're probably doing it.
Speaker 1: I just wonder why they're doing it. That's a good question.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe to have people call them in reverse
Speaker 1: and say, we're in a fix. We don't like the player. Here,
Speaker 1: here's an option for you. H alright, alright, picking up
Speaker 1: picking at number eleven, my New York Jets, what do
Speaker 1: we got? Well, I you know Jet, I know that
Speaker 1: if they go offensive tackle it might annoy a lot
Speaker 1: of Jets fans, and it was tempting to it will
Speaker 1: not annoy Jets fans. Well they need one. But I
Speaker 1: think ceedee Lamb to the Jets and what it becomes
Speaker 1: a little bit of a wide receiver run after losing
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson. Um, I think that's something that you they
Speaker 1: It fills a need. But also this is this could
Speaker 1: be a really special player and the Jets don't have
Speaker 1: a lot to market around right now. All right, I
Speaker 1: have Ceedee Lamb going to the Jets in the NFL
Speaker 1: Network mock draft we did last week. It makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Um, But yeah, I wonder if they're
Speaker 1: gonna if they could actually when it comes down to it,
Speaker 1: pass on alignment. Um, that's gonna be a tough thing
Speaker 1: for Douglas to do. But wide receiver is obviously a
Speaker 1: huge hole for that team. So all right, Mark can't
Speaker 1: can't go wrong there with either pick. I don't have
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas necessarily done with his handiwork today either. That's
Speaker 1: all right, Let's keep moving. Let's all right. So the
Speaker 1: Raiders finished that little trio of receiver picks by taking
Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs three wide receiver out of Alabama, And that
Speaker 1: leaves the Niners in a fix because they they were
Speaker 1: someone I thought definitely would have gone wide receiver, thinking
Speaker 1: they'd be available there. And they just stay at home
Speaker 1: on defensive go Javon kin Law defensive tackle South Carolina. Uh,
Speaker 1: that is for them something that I think they feel
Speaker 1: good about. And then the Browns were sitting in that
Speaker 1: dent Denver's previous spot. Um, they get the tackle that
Speaker 1: they wanted to get Andrew Thomas to tackle out of Georgia, thoughts,
Speaker 1: Mark greg I mean Henry Ruggs on the radio. Sounds
Speaker 1: like a lot of fun, just like pure speed. You
Speaker 1: know that that team needs it or than others. The
Speaker 1: kind Law pick, Yeah, maybe maybe a little bit of
Speaker 1: a reach there by Mark oh Man, I love the alright,
Speaker 1: we got a scientist, a little scientists cook off here.
Speaker 1: Why do you love it? Was? I think Ken Law
Speaker 1: is going to be a stud. And I'm not out
Speaker 1: here grinding tape. I've seen quite a bit. I saw
Speaker 1: tape from the Senior Bowl where he was man handling people.
Speaker 1: This guy has a higher ceiling than Derek Brown, I think.
Speaker 1: So the Niners continue to beef up that defensive line
Speaker 1: after trading away one of their best players. And where
Speaker 1: does that take us next, Mark Sela. That takes us
Speaker 1: to the Lions, who sit where Atlanta's pick was initially.
Speaker 1: And you know, had they been up at three, they
Speaker 1: definitely we're gonna go cornerback, I thought with Jeff Okuda.
Speaker 1: But they're gonna take what many think is the second
Speaker 1: best or right up there cornerback in the draft C J.
Speaker 1: Henderson out of Florida. Um, you mentioned did Dan Darius
Speaker 1: slay out the door? Uh? The Lions like to move
Speaker 1: on from big talent and then fill it in with
Speaker 1: the same position. So this feels like a nice Detroit
Speaker 1: move right here at number sixteen. So that was a shot.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a shot, A little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's sort of how I feel about them,
Speaker 1: but they it's they definitely need cornerback. In your scenario,
Speaker 1: the Browns and Lions would both trade down and then
Speaker 1: take a player at least that conventional wisdom says is
Speaker 1: a pretty steep drop off from the tier at their
Speaker 1: position ahead of him. Well, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: if actually reading a little bit about Andrew Thomas, there
Speaker 1: are people that think Andrew Thomas is the best tackle
Speaker 1: in the draft. You can't get any consensus on the
Speaker 1: Lineman rap sheet had that today people think that Thomas
Speaker 1: is the best swinging to miss by rap sheet. What
Speaker 1: is Dan attempting to cook up over there? Please? Hey,
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Speaker 1: let's get back to it mark. Where are all right?
Speaker 1: We're a pick number seventeen. I'm not sure Rocket Mortgage.
Speaker 1: Let's through. Okay, here we go. Cowboys take Clavon chasing
Speaker 1: the edge out of L s U Dolphins. They get
Speaker 1: their tackle at eighteen, Austin Jackson offensive tackle out of UFC.
Speaker 1: Then at nineteen the Packers aggressively move up because they
Speaker 1: need to add speed, they need to add a wide receiver,
Speaker 1: and they like Justin Jefferson. They trade up where the
Speaker 1: Raiders were into nineteen, take Jefferson out of L s U.
Speaker 1: And then at twenty the Jaguars, with that pick from
Speaker 1: the Rams, take a j. Terrell cornerback out of Clemson,
Speaker 1: and the Eagles take Kenneth Murray, linebacker Oklahoma, who we
Speaker 1: were reading reports today that it is one player that
Speaker 1: Rappaport says he has not heard a single negative word
Speaker 1: about from anyone who evaluated him. Wired to wire, So
Speaker 1: I well liked individual. What do you guys think with
Speaker 1: what we're talking to? Bob McGinn, who covered the Packers
Speaker 1: forever and He said, Aaron Rodgers physically, he's as good
Speaker 1: as he's ever ever been, so he hasn't slumped off
Speaker 1: there in any way. That the coaching staff has never
Speaker 1: been the problem. It's actually built to make him successful.
Speaker 1: It's built around the quarterback. Said that the surrounding skill players.
Speaker 1: It's been overstated how much help he really needs because
Speaker 1: he has one of the best wide receivers in the league,
Speaker 1: he has a great running back, he's got an offensive line.
Speaker 1: McGinn wouldn't really get into and Greg you pointed out
Speaker 1: that he has history with Rogers and it wasn't always
Speaker 1: a great relationship. Um, what do you think he was
Speaker 1: really saying? Because I had a theory that it was
Speaker 1: a little bit McGinn wouldn't say it because obviously he's
Speaker 1: a nice Midwestern man. But maybe that Aaron Rodgers has
Speaker 1: lost the eye of the tiger. What else is there?
Speaker 1: I don't well, I don't think anything he said is controversial.
Speaker 1: I think anyone would would say would agree with all that.
Speaker 1: The only thing that I guess would be different is
Speaker 1: that he's he says the coaching hasn't been the problem
Speaker 1: at all, which I guess would be a little different
Speaker 1: but everything us is sort of obvious. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: decision making. I think with Aaron Rodgers, he's played so
Speaker 1: safe and maybe it's I of the tiger you're talking about,
Speaker 1: and he's leaving that on said because he wouldn't say that.
Speaker 1: But to me, it's just been decision making. It's obvious
Speaker 1: that is his physical abilities there. Yeah, I got the
Speaker 1: sense he's just about as mystified as everyone else, and
Speaker 1: that does come down to decision making. Um, Like Greg said,
Speaker 1: he plays it so safe a lot of the times,
Speaker 1: but in situations where he should be safe, like on
Speaker 1: third downs, he's going for big plays down the field.
Speaker 1: It's situational football. And what I got out is Bob
Speaker 1: McGinn just saying it's all there. He just has to
Speaker 1: actually do it. And where he did it early in
Speaker 1: his career, he's failed too many times recently. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move twenty two to including another quarterback joining the
Speaker 1: National Football League. Al Right, at number twenty two, the Vikings,
Speaker 1: who just traded away Stefon digs Um to the Bills,
Speaker 1: have that Bill's pick and they take Tee Higgins wide
Speaker 1: receiver out Clemson. Uh, they can't just ignore that position.
Speaker 1: For too long. At number twenty three, where the Patriots
Speaker 1: are sitting, some people thinking would New England go quarterback instead?
Speaker 1: John Gruden and Mike Mayock of the Raiders trade into
Speaker 1: number twenty three and take Jordan's Love, quarterback out of
Speaker 1: Utah State. And I think that that we for years
Speaker 1: have felt like Gruden might have eyes for another and
Speaker 1: I think that plays out potentially in this draft. Uh.
Speaker 1: Then we move on to the next keep saying until
Speaker 1: he actually takes somebody. So yeah, right, at some point
Speaker 1: will be proven correct, and it maybe in a few
Speaker 1: days from now we will find out. And Erica is saying,
Speaker 1: what about Mary Ota, you idiot? She just texted that
Speaker 1: to us. Well, I don't know what to say to Erica. Um,
Speaker 1: number it is? Well it is uh. Number twenty four.
Speaker 1: The Saints take Patrick Queen, the linebacker at of L
Speaker 1: s U. And at twenty five the Vikings. They've got
Speaker 1: another pick, Jalen Johnson, quarterback out of Utah. I think
Speaker 1: they've lost four three cornerbacks in a safety this offseason,
Speaker 1: so they can they have to address that. Raiders pick
Speaker 1: is why Mark is making the big money with this.
Speaker 1: It's two teams you can see trading with each other.
Speaker 1: You know, Mayock and the Patriots and all that and it,
Speaker 1: and it totally seems like a guy that John Gruden
Speaker 1: and Mayak might just fall in love with. He Jordan's
Speaker 1: Love is like maybe the most fascinating guy in this
Speaker 1: draft because, like the the talent he has just sort
Speaker 1: of ooze is off the screen. I mean, he's like
Speaker 1: an uber I don't know, like Josh Allen type that
Speaker 1: you can just see the arms, strength and the athleticism
Speaker 1: is like wild. But he's just he's been wild, and
Speaker 1: his decision making has been terrible. But some team is
Speaker 1: probably going to see him and think, like, oh, this
Speaker 1: guy's enough of him a homes type to just go
Speaker 1: for it. Here's another juicy McGinn quote, this one connected
Speaker 1: to Jordan's Love. He's the only quarterback I ever scouted
Speaker 1: who will throw into bigger windows as a pro than
Speaker 1: he did in college. Those guys did not get open
Speaker 1: for him. If he ends up outside the top ten,
Speaker 1: we could be saying, how the heck did Jordan's Love
Speaker 1: asked that long? Hubble hubba, hubba. It seems like a
Speaker 1: nice little flyer pick. In the later reaches of the
Speaker 1: first round in the first round. I don't know, you've
Speaker 1: got Henry Ruggs for him to throw to as well,
Speaker 1: so the Raiders would look quite different. It's also like
Speaker 1: a very Patriots move. Everyone. You know, this is the
Speaker 1: highest pick they've had in a little while, and Patriots
Speaker 1: fans will be all excited, who did they take a quarterback?
Speaker 1: And now they just like trade down and take like
Speaker 1: some tiny cornerback that's out of the league in three years.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah that later? That rang true? Alright, So the
Speaker 1: Dolphins now are back on the board. I like this
Speaker 1: one a lot mark because they address a serious need.
Speaker 1: They do. The Dolphins take DeAndre Swift, running back out
Speaker 1: of George. I think heads and tails meant to be
Speaker 1: seen as the best running back in this draft and
Speaker 1: worthy of a first round pick, and the Dolphins need it.
Speaker 1: And you suddenly got a new quarterback and a new
Speaker 1: running back to pair together Aikman and Emmett style for
Speaker 1: the next four plus years. Then the Jets trade back
Speaker 1: into the first round. Joe Douglass is not done, and
Speaker 1: the Seahawks love trading out of that first round pick.
Speaker 1: I think They've done it eight times or something under
Speaker 1: John Schneider. The Jets get in there and they take
Speaker 1: your tour, Gross Meadows. I love the name edge at
Speaker 1: a Penn State. Do the Jets needed edge rusher? Yes,
Speaker 1: they have for how long? For about a decade plus.
Speaker 1: You know what Jersey to get me for my birthday,
Speaker 1: Gross Meadows. Grossmadows will pair nicely with Van Rotten, Yes
Speaker 1: he will. And yes, this is the point mark where
Speaker 1: if you're a true mock draft and plugged in, you
Speaker 1: make a John Abraham reference. Go ahead, I I do
Speaker 1: not choose to do that. You've made the reference right there.
Speaker 1: The New York Jets have not had a pure edge
Speaker 1: pass rusher since John Abraham in two thousand six. Maybe
Speaker 1: your tour, Gross Matos. That's the bill, all right, We're
Speaker 1: getting near the end of it now, Mark, keep going,
Speaker 1: all right. Number twenty eight the Ravens. I just think
Speaker 1: this is a Ravens type of player. I could be
Speaker 1: totally wrong about that, but Zach bond line background in Wisconsin. Um,
Speaker 1: he'll probably win Defensive Rookie of the Year with the
Speaker 1: way things seemed to go for Baltimore. So nice job
Speaker 1: by them. The Titans are looking for a little wide
Speaker 1: receiver help. They take Brandon i UK wide receiver out
Speaker 1: of Arizona State. Um. I couldn't tell you five things
Speaker 1: about him, um even five words, but he sounds like
Speaker 1: a nice player. Uh. We go from there the Patriots. Now,
Speaker 1: why would you sort of my fatal flaws, Like in
Speaker 1: the middle of a big moment, I'll explain why I
Speaker 1: shouldn't be doing this to begin with. But Patriots, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: just kill all that Patriots. They're sitting in that Raiders
Speaker 1: spot number thirty and they take a very I think
Speaker 1: Patriots s type of guy. J A. J Epenize, a
Speaker 1: defensive end out of Iowa. You know Belichick if you
Speaker 1: go back, he loves his Iowa players. Kirk for Rentz
Speaker 1: was there for years. Those guys are buds. Um, there's
Speaker 1: some connecting, some dots here. I'm meant to be connected.
Speaker 1: But you like that, that's one of the ones. That's
Speaker 1: one of the that's one of the picks. I almost
Speaker 1: guarantee I feel that good about it. All right, can
Speaker 1: we do a sandwich on that now? Just you know,
Speaker 1: let's see how that plays out. But to the Patriots
Speaker 1: is almost guarantee. Let's get my sponsored Ricky. Uh, because
Speaker 1: I'm looking for stuff to really build around this mock draft,
Speaker 1: ways to monetize it, ways to promote it. So this
Speaker 1: is your lock of the draft. Uh, I mean a
Speaker 1: j Empanada out of Island. Why not let's make that
Speaker 1: the lock. I feel good about it to the Patriots
Speaker 1: at thirty? Is that what it is? Thirty? That is correct?
Speaker 1: Bills are loving this draft for the Patriots, like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: go help your defense some more and leave your offense
Speaker 1: the way it is. There's been seventeen tackles taken to
Speaker 1: what is going on? Wait a second, the Jets trade
Speaker 1: into the first round again. I thought they were trying
Speaker 1: to That was a spoiler alert. Yeah, the number thirty one.
Speaker 1: The Jets trade back in they need a tackle, and
Speaker 1: they're basically saying are they going to be at a
Speaker 1: draft picks after this? Because I think they're here's we're thinking,
Speaker 1: let's get three or four players we love. Let's not
Speaker 1: do this thing where you draft eighteen players from round
Speaker 1: five for seven and none of them are employed by
Speaker 1: your team two years later. Get the guys we like.
Speaker 1: They take Joshua Jones, offensive tackle out of Houston, and
Speaker 1: I would say this thorm mock drafts out there with
Speaker 1: more tackles taken than I've suggested. It's interesting because Daniel
Speaker 1: Jeremiah good friend of Joe Douglas. He was just quoted
Speaker 1: as saying that Joe Douglas he can't wait till the
Speaker 1: middle rounds and late rounds of the draft because that's
Speaker 1: when he does his his favorite work. But you're saying
Speaker 1: he's just gonna like throw all that out and he's
Speaker 1: just gonna focus on Thursday night. Well and Mark, and Mark,
Speaker 1: he took a mid round tackle. He just took him
Speaker 1: in the first round. He is not a mid round tackle.
Speaker 1: He is not a mid round tackle. He's got a
Speaker 1: first round grade on them by many. And uh, I
Speaker 1: mean this, if anything, Dan, I was trying to win
Speaker 1: you over with like what would be a Titanic Jets draft.
Speaker 1: And it's not judging. I'm not judging or saying anything negative.
Speaker 1: I just it feels a little desperate to trade twice
Speaker 1: into the first round. But Jets are a little sprint.
Speaker 1: If he wants it. If that's what he wants, that's
Speaker 1: what he gets. But I mean that the back pages
Speaker 1: of the you know, the sports tabloids, would go nuts
Speaker 1: at the Jets wound up with the first they had
Speaker 1: Joshua Jones in the Yeah, people would be going insane,
Speaker 1: all right, and the final pick and I, you know,
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I moved. I had this in and out,
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs doing all sorts of stuff here, they
Speaker 1: stay right at home. And they picked that center that
Speaker 1: they need, Lloyd Cushion Berrier. That is not a real person.
Speaker 1: I I did not believe it it was either, But
Speaker 1: the more research I did, he does appear to exist.
Speaker 1: Sounds like character from the eighties. Lord Cushion better good
Speaker 1: pick for those Chiefs. Not a lot of first round
Speaker 1: grades on him. Old cush not a good interior line draft.
Speaker 1: And then you know Mark in your notes and this
Speaker 1: is now separate from this is just this, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is more like now we're getting to you know, fantastical
Speaker 1: Sessler realm. So have fun with this, everybody, but be
Speaker 1: aware that the brand that we're cultivating here, which is
Speaker 1: the mock draft, is separate from Mark Sessler fun land,
Speaker 1: which begins now with items. Yeah, this is these are
Speaker 1: in draft items that will occur and some fallout um
Speaker 1: that will occur after the draft. But of this, this
Speaker 1: is just having fun, everybody, Do not stak Mark's reputation
Speaker 1: unless they unless they go well, and one of them,
Speaker 1: I mean, is a tease here, he's ahead of the curve.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right. I think that number one we're
Speaker 1: gonna look at David Najoku traded to the Patriots. We
Speaker 1: all know why New England needs a tight end. The
Speaker 1: Browns just picked up Austin Hooper. Um, Yannick Dockway exactly.
Speaker 1: Gronk is not in the picture for Bell Belichick. He's
Speaker 1: he's annointed him. You know, Yannick Nogackway traded to the
Speaker 1: Seahawks for for two second rounders, um, which is really
Speaker 1: you know, John Schneider is gonna trade down with the Jets.
Speaker 1: I've already told you that, and they'll have another presence
Speaker 1: in the second round, and then they'll have two other
Speaker 1: they have two other second rounders which they will use
Speaker 1: to get in a Gockway out of Jacksonville. Everyone's happy.
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette will be cut. No one's trading for that guy,
Speaker 1: but he will wind up on the bills to complement
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, so he essentially replaces Frank. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: it's just like not a not a workhorse guy. He's
Speaker 1: on the team there. No, I'm saying he's gonna replace
Speaker 1: Frank or yeah, by some definitions, that would be replacing.
Speaker 1: He was on the team last year. Now he's no longer.
Speaker 1: I would expect what we'll see. He's gonna fill Frank
Speaker 1: Gore's role that he had in the right him in leadership,
Speaker 1: the inconvenan truth, maybe hanging him up hit of a
Speaker 1: leadership boid. One of the great tropes of sports. What
Speaker 1: are they going to do in that locker room without
Speaker 1: Frank Gore's leadership? Gonna replace it with Leonard Fournette. A
Speaker 1: few more items here before we get out of here. Uh,
Speaker 1: markis Goodwin traded to the Redskins. Kevin Coleman traded to
Speaker 1: the Titans. Well, you know what, when he's become true,
Speaker 1: I just exactly O. J. Howard trade it to the
Speaker 1: to the Texans. Um Rob Gronkowski joins the Bucks by
Speaker 1: the end of May. He might be by the end
Speaker 1: of April. I mean a little breaking news here, Erica Tampos,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Ian Rappaport is reporting that Rob Gronkowski
Speaker 1: has already requested to Bill Belichick to be traded to
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buck how about that. We'll see how
Speaker 1: see if they do it? But um, why not? Well
Speaker 1: that explains the O J. Howard. Tampa Bay could draft
Speaker 1: an all offensive line and defensive players and win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I think there's a chance grond comes back,
Speaker 1: and he's very gronky and the year away was great
Speaker 1: for him. I could totally see that. There's a chance
Speaker 1: that you know, he gets hurt within a few minutes
Speaker 1: and he's hobbling around like he was in two thousand twenty.
Speaker 1: There's also a che is Bill Belichick's is no freaking way.
Speaker 1: So this is early in this story, but it is
Speaker 1: a juicy one. It makes sense. It was probably part
Speaker 1: of the conversations with Brady. When is a free agent
Speaker 1: that Gronk wants back in he wants in the league,
Speaker 1: they put Howard on the block. But interesting, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: will be Bean says it could happen within twenty four hours,
Speaker 1: which indicates to me that the Patriots are very open
Speaker 1: to it. Which also makes a lot of sense to
Speaker 1: me because I think Belichick would be happy to just
Speaker 1: get a pick for him versus like trying you know
Speaker 1: what you would expect would be a decent pick instead
Speaker 1: of like hoping that Rob Gronkowski can stay healthy again.
Speaker 1: It feels like a Belichick thing to do if they
Speaker 1: could get a decent pick for him. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: Ian broke this, just to be clear, but I understand
Speaker 1: how the industry works. Did well, we're the little on
Speaker 1: the shows. It's like, you know, you broke it. Well,
Speaker 1: you didn't report that he's talked to the Buccaneers, and
Speaker 1: now I just simply saw the future. You said the
Speaker 1: end of May, it's April. Well, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be back for since the day he retired. I
Speaker 1: don't try to upstage me. Don't try to upstage me.
Speaker 1: So it turned out that he will come back and
Speaker 1: wants to play Tom Brady, but it just so happens
Speaker 1: to Tom Brady is now on a different team, getting
Speaker 1: caught in a park trying to work out by himself.
Speaker 1: Is that, well, that's the information that we have. What
Speaker 1: what are you suggesting? Yeah? What what is? What do
Speaker 1: you think he was up to? I don't know, all right,
Speaker 1: it's like I got nothing. No, I think you know
Speaker 1: where you know you could read between these lines, No,
Speaker 1: I can't. It's like an empty park in the middle
Speaker 1: of the pandemic. What is he doing? It's empty, He's
Speaker 1: got some privacy. All right, Now, Mark, you've done it.
Speaker 1: The second Annual mock Draft is in the books, and
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. I still think you said it. Five
Speaker 1: out of thirty two. You want to move that up
Speaker 1: just a little bit, potentially, just so he can market
Speaker 1: a little bit better, because it's hard to really get
Speaker 1: behind the guy as a drafts are when he's guaranteeing, like, alright,
Speaker 1: nine is great. Nine is more than a quarter of
Speaker 1: them right now, now we're cooking with fire. Nine if
Speaker 1: I can include gronkowskis, which is factual accuracy. Um, are
Speaker 1: you a little concerned? Mark, You've already within minutes been
Speaker 1: upstaged on the mock Draft episode by news bigger than
Speaker 1: anything in the mock Draft. Yeah. I mean when we
Speaker 1: call about the second Annual, it's always the also possibly
Speaker 1: the final version of the episodes. So I you know,
Speaker 1: the fact that this got made feels like a win coup. Alright, Well,
Speaker 1: thanks Mark for all your work, and we'll be certainly
Speaker 1: tracking all of your selections very closely and seeing how
Speaker 1: close they are. We're looking for nine out of thirty two,
Speaker 1: which is what about percent clip we're looking at what
Speaker 1: do we what is the success right there, it's in
Speaker 1: range nine out of thirty two would be yes between Well,
Speaker 1: that would have, by the way, be owing away um
Speaker 1: everyone at NFL dot com and they might consider publishing
Speaker 1: this next year if that happens. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: they're they're thinking is sound about not putting it up
Speaker 1: to begin with, um, And the only thing the matter
Speaker 1: is is that you beat Jeremiah, and that's what I'll
Speaker 1: be going head to head. I need a w over
Speaker 1: quote unquote move the sticks, Dan speaking to move the sticks.
Speaker 1: I just texted him and I said, this can't be real.
Speaker 1: Gronk right, tell me it's not real. DJ, my poor patriot,
Speaker 1: broken heart can't take it. And he said a couple
Speaker 1: of things that I can't. He cut me and DJ
Speaker 1: text were buds and he said, your health, heart is
Speaker 1: a worthy price for a good talking point. I'd agree
Speaker 1: with that. Else it's definitely helping, UM, it's definitely helping
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Speaker 1: in a little Thanks all right, Mark, thank you very much,
Speaker 1: and thank you everybody at home for following along the
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler Mock Draft, the second annual. Excellent work, buddy,
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