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Speaker 1: Let's get to the Mark Sessler Mock Draft. We have

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Speaker 1: the second annual Mark Sessler Mock Draft coming your way

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Speaker 1: in a few minutes. But first, some developing news and

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Speaker 1: the National Football League, our league. Rob Gronkowski is back

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, but not with his former team. The

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots said goodbye to Tom Brady. Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: went to Tampa, and now Gronk has followed tom Brady

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Speaker 1: to Tampa. The trade is official. It happened very quickly.

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Speaker 1: The Bucks acquired the tight end from the Patriots in

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Speaker 1: exchange for a fourth round pick. Unbelievable turn of events

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Speaker 1: here as Gronk ends his year long retirement and teams

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Speaker 1: with the quarterback who we went to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: with seemingly four years in the row. Uh Dan hansis

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Speaker 1: joined by Mark Sessler, Chris Westing, and Greg Rosenthal. Greg

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Speaker 1: your thoughts when the news went down? I mean, am

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Speaker 1: I gonna have to root for the bucks. I guess

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Speaker 1: I am a little bit. I know that's uh heretical

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Speaker 1: to say in New England, but watching Tom Brady throw

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Speaker 1: to grab Gronkowski sounds like fun to me. It was shocking.

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Speaker 1: It was shocking that it happened so quickly and quietly,

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Speaker 1: that the physical was already taken as we're taping this

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Speaker 1: like it's official, you know, just to pull behind the peak,

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Speaker 1: behind the curtain at the end of this show with

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Speaker 1: the mock draft, you know, we were just hearing that

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Speaker 1: it's possible Rob Gronkowski would be coming back, and you know,

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Speaker 1: within a half hour it it had already happened. Like

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Speaker 1: every insider in the business did not know this was

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Speaker 1: happening until basically it was already over. And it's a

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Speaker 1: killer for Patriots fans, who, um are gonna be sad

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Speaker 1: watching them in a different uniform. But Ricky is dying

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to her. But it's it's such a

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Speaker 1: great um, I don't know, it's just like chance for

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Speaker 1: Gronk and Brady to try something totally different, and I

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Speaker 1: think it could totally blow up in their face and

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Speaker 1: it could be a disappointment. The expectations are gonna be

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Speaker 1: so high. They're they're both high risk players right now,

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Speaker 1: but it's also like a high reward like if they

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Speaker 1: make it to the playoffs that win a game, that's

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Speaker 1: just gonna be fun and weird and different, and it

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Speaker 1: makes this season UM all the more UM important in

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Speaker 1: my mind to get started on time, and hopefully it will.

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Speaker 1: It became one of the tropes on our podcast that

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Speaker 1: last year Bruce arians might not have the same love

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Speaker 1: for the game UM that he had in Arizona, and

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Speaker 1: he might just be playing out the string here and

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Speaker 1: the opposite has happened his lifetime football philosophy, no risk it,

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Speaker 1: no biscuit is exactly how the Buccaneers have played this offseason,

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Speaker 1: going full boar after Tom Brady and then to bring

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Speaker 1: in Gronk, the two greatest to ever to play their positions. UH.

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Speaker 1: To me, the question is whether two thousand and twenty

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Speaker 1: Gronk is an upgrade on on O. J. Howard, because

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Speaker 1: the last time we saw these two guys in two

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Speaker 1: and Gronk was running on fumes for most of the

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Speaker 1: but that Super Bowl offense was not impressive from the

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Speaker 1: Patriots at all. I I think it's a player that

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Speaker 1: the year off UM could help immensely. And you know,

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Speaker 1: on our our live Twitter show we played an over

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Speaker 1: get a one rejuvenated, healthy version of Rob Wronkowski. I

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Speaker 1: a weird again and in an offseason that could be

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Speaker 1: completely um tilted. You've got Brady teamed with someone who

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Speaker 1: great trade for the Bucks. Uh. I mean, I just

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Speaker 1: I think everyone is on the same page there. The

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Speaker 1: Bucks are a huge subplot to the season because of Brady,

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Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, look out, Gronks back and he's got

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Speaker 1: He was his last season in the league in New England,

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Speaker 1: sick of playing for Bill Belichick. He was his body

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Speaker 1: these incredible, incredible dynasty moments with this team, and now

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's like seeing your X with

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Speaker 1: You want them to just be gone. I want them

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Speaker 1: for the Patriots. The Bucks are getting Rob Gronkowski at

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Speaker 1: this deal is a no brainer for them. It was

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Speaker 1: just like my point is like, like, what what are

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Speaker 1: what it's going to make me happy? More like Dynasty

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Speaker 1: not the dramatic starts some people would be looking for.

425
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: But UM is the point to be totally insane with this?

426
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: Or do I want to make it very clear to

427
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: the football fan that I am extremely plugged in. UM

428
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: says that this year more than any other. No one

429
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: has any idea because no one's been talking that, the

430
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: DJs and all this group think out there. Without these

431
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 1: mockslet they might look sillier than ever. Not Mark, all right,

432
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: the third pick in the draft. Third pick is where

433
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: our first trade occurs, and the Lions, instead of staying home,

434
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: trade the pick to the Atlanta Falcons, who aggressively are

435
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: looking to move up. According to uh, not only my sources,

436
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: but general news reports out there, and uh, the Falcons

437
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: looking for a cornerback. They're gonna go Jeff Acuda cornerback

438
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: Ohio State. And I think they feel very good about it.

439
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: They feel very good. M Well, it makes sense. They

440
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: just they just traded away Darius Slay, their best cornerback.

441
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: I guess they gotta fill the void and they get

442
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: a cheaper, younger alternative West Falcons. This is the Falcons.

443
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Oh, silly me. I I apologize for that,

444
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: but the Falcons obviously needed the cornerback help. Makes a

445
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Trough would be making a stand here.

446
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: He made his name with the Julio Jones trade. He

447
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: feels like he's about as on the edge maybe in

448
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: terms of job security, as he as he's ever been,

449
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: and this would be a bold move by Thomas. Demit

450
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: Demotrof or Dimitroff is how he does it, I believe. Okay,

451
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: you almost think about going to Metro just because it's

452
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: it rolls off the top, it sounds better. But but

453
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: he's sort of started people correct. He's corrected him. So

454
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: not only trading out of that spot, but a team

455
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: trading up from sixteen, they don't have to give up

456
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: a windfall. They would and the and the Falcons gave

457
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: up a lot when they traded up to take Julio Jones. Also, um,

458
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: it's not normally in their m O for the most part,

459
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: but I have a feeling they're gonna do something, and

460
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: that would be a surprise. If you spoke to people

461
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: a month ago and you said I'm from the future.

462
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: The Lions will trade out of that pick, and the

463
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: team that trades in won't take a quarterback. But things

464
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: have changed, at least some how. The draft insiders are

465
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: painting things as we get closer the draft. All right,

466
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: thank you, good comment. Pick four. Uh the Giants, you know,

467
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: give me this nonsense about their you know, face timing

468
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: with with Justin Herbert. I just I don't care what

469
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: they're doing. Uh. Tom Brady was face timing with the

470
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans and their staff. What does that mean in

471
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: a basketball game? So I'm going right here. The Giants

472
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: stay home and go Tristan Worth's offensive tackle, Iowa, the

473
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: fields that go very I don't know heads or tails,

474
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: what to make these? What teams think about these tackles?

475
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: But um, worse is where I'm going. That's the that's

476
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: the worst pick on the board. Oh, West, speak on it. No,

477
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: I said it's the worst pick on Yeah, I mean

478
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: I think this is a good little line. Does that

479
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: mean it was the worst or just okay, a little

480
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 1: miscommunication there. Let's play on words. There's a plan words.

481
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: I thought it had a double meeting that it also

482
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: is a bad pick. Alright, No, I'm not gonna bury gentleman. Alright,

483
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: the fifth overall pick in the draft. All right, and

484
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: you know this is this to me is the first

485
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: major turning point in the road. What are the Dolphins

486
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: gonna do at number five? There's whispers that they might

487
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: just go defense or offensive tackle here and try to

488
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: get a quarterback later on. I don't buy that. I

489
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: think that they after all of this business, um, they're

490
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: gonna go with to uh our guy to out of

491
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: Alabama and I and I flip flopped this in another pick,

492
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: but going to a if I, if I did a mock,

493
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: I I'd ignore all this noise that's happened, and I'd

494
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: I'd imagine a scenario where Steven Ross and the Dolphins

495
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: are patting themselves on the back for making everyone think

496
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: they wouldn't take too when they really did. Yeah, I agree,

497
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm totally because we've heard forever they were connected to two.

498
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: You know, this whole thing with the organic tank was

499
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: to go get the quarterback. Are they really gonna pass

500
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: on a QB in the top five. I just don't

501
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: see it. And to it feels like a risky pick,

502
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: but a lot of upside there. Uh. Good good job there, Mark.

503
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: I like your your draft picks so far. You're flying

504
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: right now. You've got one tackle off the board. You

505
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: got a two qbs and edge rusher in a cornerback.

506
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: And now that brings up the Chargers, another team that

507
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: it makes sense that they would target a quarterback. Do

508
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: they do it? They do? I I kind of got

509
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: confused and what to do with this one a little bit,

510
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 1: or I should say more just I was entranced by

511
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: the idea of some of Justin Herbert falling. But I

512
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: think the charge is gonna go Justin Herbert quarterback out

513
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: of Oregon Um simply because if there's a narrative I

514
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: do not buy, and if I'm proven wrong, I'll take

515
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: it into note. But this idea that they're gonna sell

516
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor to the l A fan base while they're

517
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: trying to sell tickets in a massive news stadium, not

518
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: buying it. I think they're absolutely gonna have to find

519
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: another answer at quarterback. And if it's not gonna be

520
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 1: a Can Newton or something like that, and there's no

521
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: buzz around that, I think you go with the less

522
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: expensive rookie guy that you can, in theory play behind

523
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: Tyrod for eight or nine hours until he takes over.

524
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: Let's play the positive quote negative quote Bob McGinn game

525
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: for Justin Herbert. Here here's a positive quote. If the

526
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: Oregon kid had Alabama's receivers or Oklahoma's receivers or l

527
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: s Us receivers, he'd be the best, one said a scout.

528
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: And now here's the negative because we talked about it

529
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: when McGinn was on the show, and uh, you know

530
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: he likes to do the salt with the pepper, the

531
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: oil with the vinegar. I like him to a degree.

532
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he's an elite player. He's kind of

533
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: robotic and mechanical accuracies off. He has the classic looks

534
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: of an NFL quarterback. That's the guy that has burned

535
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the past. Big tall, good

536
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: looking interviews, well, smart, throws the ball a mile, all

537
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: that stuff. Gabbert Jared Goff, not a lot of vision,

538
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: not a really good playmaker. Mark kind of a shot

539
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: across your bow in a way. Why it is. But

540
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with the scouting work that I've done on

541
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: this player. And you know, you it's at that time

542
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: a year where you just gotta dig in on your

543
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: own beliefs. How would you like to be a Rams fan?

544
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: And you hear Goff and blame gabrit mentioned in the

545
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: same sentence as the same type of quarterback. Right that

546
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: didn't that that scout the bad job. I mean, Jared Goff,

547
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: if nothing else, does not have a big art and

548
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: ant and it doesn't make sense. They're just saying like

549
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: he's tall and white is basically what he's saying. All right,

550
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: let's go seven eight nine, Mark, give us three picks. Alright,

551
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: seven eight nine. The Panthers take Isaiah Simmons linebacker Clempson

552
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: ideas one of the teams that people sort of feel

553
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: like he could fit there where he's not a fit

554
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: for everyone. Cardinals, um, you know, you think they're gonna

555
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: go electrifying offense. They go Derek Brown, defensive tackle out

556
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: of Auburn, who I think is going to be a

557
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: plug and play Week one starter about that plug and

558
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: play and what method And he is a big body, disruptor.

559
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: He causes enormous problems for quarterback types. And if you're

560
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: trying to run the ball, good luck on Derek Brown.

561
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: That's not gonna be happening with I mean, it's it's

562
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: all there. It's everything that you can go watch five

563
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: minutes of his tape and just it's a I'll go

564
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: I'll follow my own instruction at some point um alright,

565
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: and number nine Jaguars Jedrick Wills offensive Alabama. Alright. So

566
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: another tackles off the board to the Jags, and then

567
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: we have another trade to close out the top ten.

568
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: Who saucy and it involves your favorite team, mark the

569
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: team you love more than anything else in the whole

570
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: wide world. I think, yes, the Browns are I think

571
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: there's DNA in that front office again to want to

572
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: value trading down and thinking that if they need to tackle,

573
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of tackles that will be left over.

574
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: They trade with the Bronchos, who I think are another

575
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: team like the Falcons, that have been openly just honest

576
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: about the fact that they might move up and they

577
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: want one of these wide receivers. They're gonna jump into

578
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: ten and take Jerry Judy wide receiver Alabama. Big need filled, right,

579
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: that Judy the first off the board of the wide receivers.

580
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: It's very John Elway to trade up in a you know,

581
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: really deep receiver draft, uh for a receiver just like

582
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: go all out, But that Jerry Judy and Cortland Sutton

583
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: also sounds like a lot of fun, So I'm in it.

584
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: I would say one thing on that, like I hear

585
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: you that why do that? But the bottom line is

586
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: there's gotta be two or three of these guys that

587
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: are way better than the rest. Judy seems like the safest.

588
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: Why would the Broncos telegraph their move for weeks that?

589
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I agree they're probably doing it.

590
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: I just wonder why they're doing it. That's a good question.

591
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe to have people call them in reverse

592
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: and say, we're in a fix. We don't like the player. Here,

593
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: here's an option for you. H alright, alright, picking up

594
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: picking at number eleven, my New York Jets, what do

595
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 1: we got? Well, I you know Jet, I know that

596
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: if they go offensive tackle it might annoy a lot

597
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: of Jets fans, and it was tempting to it will

598
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: not annoy Jets fans. Well they need one. But I

599
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: think ceedee Lamb to the Jets and what it becomes

600
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: a little bit of a wide receiver run after losing

601
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson. Um, I think that's something that you they

602
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: It fills a need. But also this is this could

603
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: be a really special player and the Jets don't have

604
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: a lot to market around right now. All right, I

605
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: have Ceedee Lamb going to the Jets in the NFL

606
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: Network mock draft we did last week. It makes a

607
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Um, But yeah, I wonder if they're

608
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: gonna if they could actually when it comes down to it,

609
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: pass on alignment. Um, that's gonna be a tough thing

610
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: for Douglas to do. But wide receiver is obviously a

611
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: huge hole for that team. So all right, Mark can't

612
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: can't go wrong there with either pick. I don't have

613
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas necessarily done with his handiwork today either. That's

614
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: all right, Let's keep moving. Let's all right. So the

615
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: Raiders finished that little trio of receiver picks by taking

616
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs three wide receiver out of Alabama, And that

617
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: leaves the Niners in a fix because they they were

618
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: someone I thought definitely would have gone wide receiver, thinking

619
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: they'd be available there. And they just stay at home

620
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: on defensive go Javon kin Law defensive tackle South Carolina. Uh,

621
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: that is for them something that I think they feel

622
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: good about. And then the Browns were sitting in that

623
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: dent Denver's previous spot. Um, they get the tackle that

624
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: they wanted to get Andrew Thomas to tackle out of Georgia, thoughts,

625
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: Mark greg I mean Henry Ruggs on the radio. Sounds

626
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: like a lot of fun, just like pure speed. You

627
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: know that that team needs it or than others. The

628
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: kind Law pick, Yeah, maybe maybe a little bit of

629
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: a reach there by Mark oh Man, I love the alright,

630
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: we got a scientist, a little scientists cook off here.

631
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: Why do you love it? Was? I think Ken Law

632
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: is going to be a stud. And I'm not out

633
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: here grinding tape. I've seen quite a bit. I saw

634
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: tape from the Senior Bowl where he was man handling people.

635
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: This guy has a higher ceiling than Derek Brown, I think.

636
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Speaker 1: So the Niners continue to beef up that defensive line

637
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Speaker 1: after trading away one of their best players. And where

638
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: does that take us next, Mark Sela. That takes us

639
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Speaker 1: to the Lions, who sit where Atlanta's pick was initially.

640
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Speaker 1: And you know, had they been up at three, they

641
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: definitely we're gonna go cornerback, I thought with Jeff Okuda.

642
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: But they're gonna take what many think is the second

643
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Speaker 1: best or right up there cornerback in the draft C J.

644
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Speaker 1: Henderson out of Florida. Um, you mentioned did Dan Darius

645
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: slay out the door? Uh? The Lions like to move

646
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: on from big talent and then fill it in with

647
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: the same position. So this feels like a nice Detroit

648
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: move right here at number sixteen. So that was a shot.

649
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a shot, A little bit.

650
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's sort of how I feel about them,

651
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: but they it's they definitely need cornerback. In your scenario,

652
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: the Browns and Lions would both trade down and then

653
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: take a player at least that conventional wisdom says is

654
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: a pretty steep drop off from the tier at their

655
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Speaker 1: position ahead of him. Well, I don't know. I mean,

656
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Speaker 1: if actually reading a little bit about Andrew Thomas, there

657
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: are people that think Andrew Thomas is the best tackle

658
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: in the draft. You can't get any consensus on the

659
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: Lineman rap sheet had that today people think that Thomas

660
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: is the best swinging to miss by rap sheet. What

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00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: is Dan attempting to cook up over there? Please? Hey,

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Speaker 1: a reminder that the second annual marccesslor Mock Draft is

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Speaker 1: let's get back to it mark. Where are all right?

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Speaker 1: We're a pick number seventeen. I'm not sure Rocket Mortgage.

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Speaker 1: Let's through. Okay, here we go. Cowboys take Clavon chasing

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Speaker 1: the edge out of L s U Dolphins. They get

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00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: their tackle at eighteen, Austin Jackson offensive tackle out of UFC.

671
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: Then at nineteen the Packers aggressively move up because they

672
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: need to add speed, they need to add a wide receiver,

673
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: and they like Justin Jefferson. They trade up where the

674
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: Raiders were into nineteen, take Jefferson out of L s U.

675
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: And then at twenty the Jaguars, with that pick from

676
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Speaker 1: the Rams, take a j. Terrell cornerback out of Clemson,

677
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: and the Eagles take Kenneth Murray, linebacker Oklahoma, who we

678
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: were reading reports today that it is one player that

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00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: Rappaport says he has not heard a single negative word

680
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: about from anyone who evaluated him. Wired to wire, So

681
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: I well liked individual. What do you guys think with

682
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: what we're talking to? Bob McGinn, who covered the Packers

683
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: forever and He said, Aaron Rodgers physically, he's as good

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Speaker 1: as he's ever ever been, so he hasn't slumped off

685
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: there in any way. That the coaching staff has never

686
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: been the problem. It's actually built to make him successful.

687
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: It's built around the quarterback. Said that the surrounding skill players.

688
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: It's been overstated how much help he really needs because

689
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: he has one of the best wide receivers in the league,

690
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: he has a great running back, he's got an offensive line.

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00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: McGinn wouldn't really get into and Greg you pointed out

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Speaker 1: that he has history with Rogers and it wasn't always

693
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: a great relationship. Um, what do you think he was

694
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: really saying? Because I had a theory that it was

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00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: a little bit McGinn wouldn't say it because obviously he's

696
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: a nice Midwestern man. But maybe that Aaron Rodgers has

697
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: lost the eye of the tiger. What else is there?

698
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: I don't well, I don't think anything he said is controversial.

699
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Speaker 1: I think anyone would would say would agree with all that.

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00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: The only thing that I guess would be different is

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00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: that he's he says the coaching hasn't been the problem

702
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: at all, which I guess would be a little different

703
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: but everything us is sort of obvious. I mean, it's

704
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: decision making. I think with Aaron Rodgers, he's played so

705
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 1: safe and maybe it's I of the tiger you're talking about,

706
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: and he's leaving that on said because he wouldn't say that.

707
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: But to me, it's just been decision making. It's obvious

708
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: that is his physical abilities there. Yeah, I got the

709
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: sense he's just about as mystified as everyone else, and

710
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: that does come down to decision making. Um, Like Greg said,

711
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: he plays it so safe a lot of the times,

712
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: but in situations where he should be safe, like on

713
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: third downs, he's going for big plays down the field.

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00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: It's situational football. And what I got out is Bob

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Speaker 1: McGinn just saying it's all there. He just has to

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Speaker 1: actually do it. And where he did it early in

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00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: his career, he's failed too many times recently. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's move twenty two to including another quarterback joining the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. Al Right, at number twenty two, the Vikings,

720
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Speaker 1: who just traded away Stefon digs Um to the Bills,

721
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Speaker 1: have that Bill's pick and they take Tee Higgins wide

722
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: receiver out Clemson. Uh, they can't just ignore that position.

723
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: For too long. At number twenty three, where the Patriots

724
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: are sitting, some people thinking would New England go quarterback instead?

725
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: John Gruden and Mike Mayock of the Raiders trade into

726
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: number twenty three and take Jordan's Love, quarterback out of

727
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: Utah State. And I think that that we for years

728
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: have felt like Gruden might have eyes for another and

729
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: I think that plays out potentially in this draft. Uh.

730
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: Then we move on to the next keep saying until

731
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: he actually takes somebody. So yeah, right, at some point

732
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: will be proven correct, and it maybe in a few

733
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: days from now we will find out. And Erica is saying,

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Speaker 1: what about Mary Ota, you idiot? She just texted that

735
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Speaker 1: to us. Well, I don't know what to say to Erica. Um,

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Speaker 1: number it is? Well it is uh. Number twenty four.

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Speaker 1: The Saints take Patrick Queen, the linebacker at of L

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Speaker 1: s U. And at twenty five the Vikings. They've got

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00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: another pick, Jalen Johnson, quarterback out of Utah. I think

740
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: they've lost four three cornerbacks in a safety this offseason,

741
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: so they can they have to address that. Raiders pick

742
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: is why Mark is making the big money with this.

743
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: It's two teams you can see trading with each other.

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00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: You know, Mayock and the Patriots and all that and it,

745
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: and it totally seems like a guy that John Gruden

746
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Speaker 1: and Mayak might just fall in love with. He Jordan's

747
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: Love is like maybe the most fascinating guy in this

748
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: draft because, like the the talent he has just sort

749
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: of ooze is off the screen. I mean, he's like

750
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: an uber I don't know, like Josh Allen type that

751
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: you can just see the arms, strength and the athleticism

752
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: is like wild. But he's just he's been wild, and

753
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: his decision making has been terrible. But some team is

754
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: probably going to see him and think, like, oh, this

755
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: guy's enough of him a homes type to just go

756
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: for it. Here's another juicy McGinn quote, this one connected

757
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 1: to Jordan's Love. He's the only quarterback I ever scouted

758
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: who will throw into bigger windows as a pro than

759
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: he did in college. Those guys did not get open

760
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: for him. If he ends up outside the top ten,

761
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: we could be saying, how the heck did Jordan's Love

762
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: asked that long? Hubble hubba, hubba. It seems like a

763
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: nice little flyer pick. In the later reaches of the

764
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: first round in the first round. I don't know, you've

765
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: got Henry Ruggs for him to throw to as well,

766
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: so the Raiders would look quite different. It's also like

767
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: a very Patriots move. Everyone. You know, this is the

768
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: highest pick they've had in a little while, and Patriots

769
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: fans will be all excited, who did they take a quarterback?

770
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: And now they just like trade down and take like

771
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: some tiny cornerback that's out of the league in three years.

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00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: Uh yeah that later? That rang true? Alright, So the

773
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: Dolphins now are back on the board. I like this

774
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: one a lot mark because they address a serious need.

775
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: They do. The Dolphins take DeAndre Swift, running back out

776
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: of George. I think heads and tails meant to be

777
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: seen as the best running back in this draft and

778
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: worthy of a first round pick, and the Dolphins need it.

779
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: And you suddenly got a new quarterback and a new

780
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: running back to pair together Aikman and Emmett style for

781
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: the next four plus years. Then the Jets trade back

782
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: into the first round. Joe Douglass is not done, and

783
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: the Seahawks love trading out of that first round pick.

784
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: I think They've done it eight times or something under

785
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: John Schneider. The Jets get in there and they take

786
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: your tour, Gross Meadows. I love the name edge at

787
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: a Penn State. Do the Jets needed edge rusher? Yes,

788
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: they have for how long? For about a decade plus.

789
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: You know what Jersey to get me for my birthday,

790
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: Gross Meadows. Grossmadows will pair nicely with Van Rotten, Yes

791
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: he will. And yes, this is the point mark where

792
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: if you're a true mock draft and plugged in, you

793
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: make a John Abraham reference. Go ahead, I I do

794
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: not choose to do that. You've made the reference right there.

795
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: The New York Jets have not had a pure edge

796
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: pass rusher since John Abraham in two thousand six. Maybe

797
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: your tour, Gross Matos. That's the bill, all right, We're

798
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: getting near the end of it now, Mark, keep going,

799
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: all right. Number twenty eight the Ravens. I just think

800
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: this is a Ravens type of player. I could be

801
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: totally wrong about that, but Zach bond line background in Wisconsin. Um,

802
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: he'll probably win Defensive Rookie of the Year with the

803
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: way things seemed to go for Baltimore. So nice job

804
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: by them. The Titans are looking for a little wide

805
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: receiver help. They take Brandon i UK wide receiver out

806
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 1: of Arizona State. Um. I couldn't tell you five things

807
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: about him, um even five words, but he sounds like

808
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: a nice player. Uh. We go from there the Patriots. Now,

809
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: why would you sort of my fatal flaws, Like in

810
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: the middle of a big moment, I'll explain why I

811
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't be doing this to begin with. But Patriots, Okay, yeah,

812
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: just kill all that Patriots. They're sitting in that Raiders

813
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: spot number thirty and they take a very I think

814
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: Patriots s type of guy. J A. J Epenize, a

815
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Speaker 1: defensive end out of Iowa. You know Belichick if you

816
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: go back, he loves his Iowa players. Kirk for Rentz

817
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 1: was there for years. Those guys are buds. Um, there's

818
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: some connecting, some dots here. I'm meant to be connected.

819
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: But you like that, that's one of the ones. That's

820
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: one of the that's one of the picks. I almost

821
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: guarantee I feel that good about it. All right, can

822
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: we do a sandwich on that now? Just you know,

823
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: let's see how that plays out. But to the Patriots

824
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: is almost guarantee. Let's get my sponsored Ricky. Uh, because

825
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking for stuff to really build around this mock draft,

826
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: ways to monetize it, ways to promote it. So this

827
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Speaker 1: is your lock of the draft. Uh, I mean a

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Speaker 1: j Empanada out of Island. Why not let's make that

829
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Speaker 1: the lock. I feel good about it to the Patriots

830
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: at thirty? Is that what it is? Thirty? That is correct?

831
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: Bills are loving this draft for the Patriots, like, oh yeah,

832
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: go help your defense some more and leave your offense

833
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: the way it is. There's been seventeen tackles taken to

834
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 1: what is going on? Wait a second, the Jets trade

835
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: into the first round again. I thought they were trying

836
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: to That was a spoiler alert. Yeah, the number thirty one.

837
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: The Jets trade back in they need a tackle, and

838
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: they're basically saying are they going to be at a

839
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: draft picks after this? Because I think they're here's we're thinking,

840
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: let's get three or four players we love. Let's not

841
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: do this thing where you draft eighteen players from round

842
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: five for seven and none of them are employed by

843
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: your team two years later. Get the guys we like.

844
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: They take Joshua Jones, offensive tackle out of Houston, and

845
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: I would say this thorm mock drafts out there with

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Speaker 1: more tackles taken than I've suggested. It's interesting because Daniel

847
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Speaker 1: Jeremiah good friend of Joe Douglas. He was just quoted

848
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Speaker 1: as saying that Joe Douglas he can't wait till the

849
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: middle rounds and late rounds of the draft because that's

850
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Speaker 1: when he does his his favorite work. But you're saying

851
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Speaker 1: he's just gonna like throw all that out and he's

852
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: just gonna focus on Thursday night. Well and Mark, and Mark,

853
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: he took a mid round tackle. He just took him

854
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: in the first round. He is not a mid round tackle.

855
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Speaker 1: He is not a mid round tackle. He's got a

856
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: first round grade on them by many. And uh, I

857
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: mean this, if anything, Dan, I was trying to win

858
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Speaker 1: you over with like what would be a Titanic Jets draft.

859
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: And it's not judging. I'm not judging or saying anything negative.

860
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: I just it feels a little desperate to trade twice

861
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: into the first round. But Jets are a little sprint.

862
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: If he wants it. If that's what he wants, that's

863
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: what he gets. But I mean that the back pages

864
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: of the you know, the sports tabloids, would go nuts

865
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Speaker 1: at the Jets wound up with the first they had

866
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: Joshua Jones in the Yeah, people would be going insane,

867
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: all right, and the final pick and I, you know,

868
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I moved. I had this in and out,

869
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs doing all sorts of stuff here, they

870
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: stay right at home. And they picked that center that

871
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: they need, Lloyd Cushion Berrier. That is not a real person.

872
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: I I did not believe it it was either, But

873
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: the more research I did, he does appear to exist.

874
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: Sounds like character from the eighties. Lord Cushion better good

875
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: pick for those Chiefs. Not a lot of first round

876
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: grades on him. Old cush not a good interior line draft.

877
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: And then you know Mark in your notes and this

878
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: is now separate from this is just this, Yeah, this

879
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: is more like now we're getting to you know, fantastical

880
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: Sessler realm. So have fun with this, everybody, but be

881
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: aware that the brand that we're cultivating here, which is

882
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: the mock draft, is separate from Mark Sessler fun land,

883
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: which begins now with items. Yeah, this is these are

884
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: in draft items that will occur and some fallout um

885
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: that will occur after the draft. But of this, this

886
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: is just having fun, everybody, Do not stak Mark's reputation

887
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: unless they unless they go well, and one of them,

888
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean, is a tease here, he's ahead of the curve.

889
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right. I think that number one we're

890
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: gonna look at David Najoku traded to the Patriots. We

891
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: all know why New England needs a tight end. The

892
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: Browns just picked up Austin Hooper. Um, Yannick Dockway exactly.

893
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: Gronk is not in the picture for Bell Belichick. He's

894
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: he's annointed him. You know, Yannick Nogackway traded to the

895
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: Seahawks for for two second rounders, um, which is really

896
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, John Schneider is gonna trade down with the Jets.

897
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: I've already told you that, and they'll have another presence

898
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: in the second round, and then they'll have two other

899
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: they have two other second rounders which they will use

900
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: to get in a Gockway out of Jacksonville. Everyone's happy.

901
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette will be cut. No one's trading for that guy,

902
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: but he will wind up on the bills to complement

903
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, so he essentially replaces Frank. Yeah. I think

904
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: it's just like not a not a workhorse guy. He's

905
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: on the team there. No, I'm saying he's gonna replace

906
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: Frank or yeah, by some definitions, that would be replacing.

907
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: He was on the team last year. Now he's no longer.

908
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: I would expect what we'll see. He's gonna fill Frank

909
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: Gore's role that he had in the right him in leadership,

910
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: the inconvenan truth, maybe hanging him up hit of a

911
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: leadership boid. One of the great tropes of sports. What

912
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: are they going to do in that locker room without

913
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: Frank Gore's leadership? Gonna replace it with Leonard Fournette. A

914
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: few more items here before we get out of here. Uh,

915
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: markis Goodwin traded to the Redskins. Kevin Coleman traded to

916
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: the Titans. Well, you know what, when he's become true,

917
00:48:54,440 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: I just exactly O. J. Howard trade it to the

918
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: to the Texans. Um Rob Gronkowski joins the Bucks by

919
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: the end of May. He might be by the end

920
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: of April. I mean a little breaking news here, Erica Tampos,

921
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: let's do it. Ian Rappaport is reporting that Rob Gronkowski

922
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: has already requested to Bill Belichick to be traded to

923
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buck how about that. We'll see how

924
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: see if they do it? But um, why not? Well

925
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: that explains the O J. Howard. Tampa Bay could draft

926
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: an all offensive line and defensive players and win the

927
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I think there's a chance grond comes back,

928
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: and he's very gronky and the year away was great

929
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: for him. I could totally see that. There's a chance

930
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: that you know, he gets hurt within a few minutes

931
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: and he's hobbling around like he was in two thousand twenty.

932
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: There's also a che is Bill Belichick's is no freaking way.

933
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: So this is early in this story, but it is

934
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: a juicy one. It makes sense. It was probably part

935
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: of the conversations with Brady. When is a free agent

936
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: that Gronk wants back in he wants in the league,

937
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: they put Howard on the block. But interesting, Yeah, this

938
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: will be Bean says it could happen within twenty four hours,

939
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: which indicates to me that the Patriots are very open

940
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: to it. Which also makes a lot of sense to

941
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: me because I think Belichick would be happy to just

942
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: get a pick for him versus like trying you know

943
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: what you would expect would be a decent pick instead

944
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: of like hoping that Rob Gronkowski can stay healthy again.

945
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: It feels like a Belichick thing to do if they

946
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: could get a decent pick for him. I'm not sure

947
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: Ian broke this, just to be clear, but I understand

948
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: how the industry works. Did well, we're the little on

949
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: the shows. It's like, you know, you broke it. Well,

950
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: you didn't report that he's talked to the Buccaneers, and

951
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: now I just simply saw the future. You said the

952
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: end of May, it's April. Well, I don't think it's

953
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: gonna be back for since the day he retired. I

954
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: don't try to upstage me. Don't try to upstage me.

955
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: So it turned out that he will come back and

956
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: wants to play Tom Brady, but it just so happens

957
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: to Tom Brady is now on a different team, getting

958
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: caught in a park trying to work out by himself.

959
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: Is that, well, that's the information that we have. What

960
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: what are you suggesting? Yeah? What what is? What do

961
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: you think he was up to? I don't know, all right,

962
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: it's like I got nothing. No, I think you know

963
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: where you know you could read between these lines, No,

964
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: I can't. It's like an empty park in the middle

965
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: of the pandemic. What is he doing? It's empty, He's

966
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: got some privacy. All right, Now, Mark, you've done it.

967
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: The second Annual mock Draft is in the books, and

968
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. I still think you said it. Five

969
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: out of thirty two. You want to move that up

970
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: just a little bit, potentially, just so he can market

971
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: a little bit better, because it's hard to really get

972
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: behind the guy as a drafts are when he's guaranteeing, like, alright,

973
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: nine is great. Nine is more than a quarter of

974
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: them right now, now we're cooking with fire. Nine if

975
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: I can include gronkowskis, which is factual accuracy. Um, are

976
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: you a little concerned? Mark, You've already within minutes been

977
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: upstaged on the mock Draft episode by news bigger than

978
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: anything in the mock Draft. Yeah. I mean when we

979
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: call about the second Annual, it's always the also possibly

980
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: the final version of the episodes. So I you know,

981
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: the fact that this got made feels like a win coup. Alright, Well,

982
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: thanks Mark for all your work, and we'll be certainly

983
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: tracking all of your selections very closely and seeing how

984
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: close they are. We're looking for nine out of thirty two,

985
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: which is what about percent clip we're looking at what

986
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: do we what is the success right there, it's in

987
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: range nine out of thirty two would be yes between Well,

988
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: that would have, by the way, be owing away um

989
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: everyone at NFL dot com and they might consider publishing

990
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: this next year if that happens. I'm not saying that

991
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: they're they're thinking is sound about not putting it up

992
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: to begin with, um, And the only thing the matter

993
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: is is that you beat Jeremiah, and that's what I'll

994
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: be going head to head. I need a w over

995
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: quote unquote move the sticks, Dan speaking to move the sticks.

996
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: I just texted him and I said, this can't be real.

997
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: Gronk right, tell me it's not real. DJ, my poor patriot,

998
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: broken heart can't take it. And he said a couple

999
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: of things that I can't. He cut me and DJ

1000
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: text were buds and he said, your health, heart is

1001
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: a worthy price for a good talking point. I'd agree

1002
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: with that. Else it's definitely helping, UM, it's definitely helping

1003
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Speaker 1: the top of our Twitter show, which is coming up

1004
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: in a little Thanks all right, Mark, thank you very much,

1005
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: and thank you everybody at home for following along the

1006
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler Mock Draft, the second annual. Excellent work, buddy,

1007
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: and yes, don't forget the two thousand, twenty NFL Draft

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00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: Thursday Night. It's virtual baby until next year.