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Speaker 1: running December thirtieth through January third, and March sixth through

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Speaker 1: the twenty eighth. And I'm asking you know, obviously, everyone

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Speaker 1: in Texas, same number. But either as a parent or

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Speaker 1: as a kid, did you did your parents ever? Was

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Speaker 1: there ever a moment with your parents that was like

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Speaker 1: the we're going to overcome this fear moment where they

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Speaker 1: like way overcorrected on something like almost scared you, Like,

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Speaker 1: like I almost wonder if in today's generation it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: even be considered abuse, which it probably shouldn't be. But like,

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Speaker 1: for example, this is a story today. There's a parenting

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Speaker 1: stump that's gone viral. A guy named Garrett G is

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Speaker 1: a travel influencer known as the bucket List Dad, and

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Speaker 1: he's under fire after posting a video of himself throwing

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Speaker 1: his seven year old son off a cliff into a

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Speaker 1: lake to teach him courage. The boy screened on the

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Speaker 1: way down but appeared fine afterwards. He says the jump

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Speaker 1: was safe and consensual, but critics call it reckless and dangerous.

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Speaker 1: The video has over three and a half million views,

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Speaker 1: so I can see how this went down. Hey kid,

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Speaker 1: you know you want to jump off that cliff? You know, Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it was one of those that is I

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Speaker 1: feel like a lot of lakes have them where it's

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Speaker 1: I was just that one recently where it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: people jump off that you want to jump off that?

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Speaker 1: You know, there's like boats around it, So okay, we

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Speaker 1: know it's deep enough and relatively safe, all right, And

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Speaker 1: the kid's probably like, no, I don't want to, and

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Speaker 1: then Dad's like, oh no, no, come on, come on, come on,

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Speaker 1: you can do it. And then finally it becomes this

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Speaker 1: and then he throws him off right, and then you

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Speaker 1: could argue, well, he did it, And I bet you

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Speaker 1: my guess would be after he did it that one time,

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Speaker 1: he ran right back up there and did it again

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Speaker 1: know that for effect, he could be traumatized for life.

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Speaker 1: I potentially asking to emancipate from his family. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it could have also been the thing that the kid.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not suggesting this was a good idea, but

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Speaker 1: excellent parenting, but you know, if you've been listening for

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Speaker 1: got divorced when I was pretty young and my mom

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Speaker 1: you know, but he was. He was the outdoorsman. He

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Speaker 1: He takes me to a double black Diamond, which is

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Speaker 1: mom was like going to divorce him over it, because

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Speaker 1: she's like, what are you doing? And he didn't. He

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Speaker 1: which is which is what I needed. But have any

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Speaker 2: My mom she put me in every activity to just

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Speaker 2: She was like, you're gonna know how to swim, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, do I really need to know how to die?

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Speaker 2: But she was adaming, like you're gonna get on the

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Speaker 4: I was screaming, crying.

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Speaker 2: And then you have the line of other kids that

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Speaker 4: Are you gonna dive and make me proud?

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Speaker 2: And so basically she had to push me in there.

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Speaker 4: And once once I didn't drown, you know, I was like, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm not so scared. So then I started you overcame

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Speaker 4: the fear. I overcame the fear. Do I recommend that

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Speaker 4: style of parenting? No? No, that's abuse.

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Speaker 1: Okay I don't either, but I have to tell you

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Speaker 1: it worked, like in that instance, it worked. And then

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Speaker 1: you know, for the rest of the trip, you know,

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Speaker 1: well I was.

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Speaker 2: Skiing, really you know, how to come off a cliff

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Speaker 2: you're diving your skiing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I've seen the opposite side of this.

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Speaker 5: My mom grew up with five brothers and this is

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Speaker 5: also like, you know, rural Poland, so like this is

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Speaker 5: a whole different country. She was thrown into the river

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Speaker 5: or whatever it was, like the button a lake river

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Speaker 5: and she's flipped over, and she in her head still

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Speaker 5: thinks that like I'm going to dance. Trauma, like traumatized.

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Speaker 5: So she threw us in swimming too, like not physically

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Speaker 5: to swimming because she didn't want us to be like her.

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Speaker 5: So it's the opposite side I think with my mom.

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Speaker 1: Like, so it could go either way, right, he could

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Speaker 1: traumatize you for life, and now she's like bodies of water. No, Kenny,

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Speaker 1: Kenny G. That's your name, Kenny G.

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Speaker 6: Heyre you doing?

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Speaker 1: My man? It's Kenny G. So this is something like

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Speaker 1: this happened to you when it came to swimming.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my dad tossed me in the water to teach

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Speaker 1: So that was his infinite wisdom was I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 6: Luckily it was a it was a family sized pool,

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Speaker 6: how to swim here and take the floaties off here,

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Speaker 6: learn and then to learn how to swim. Doggy battle,

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Speaker 6: doggy battle, figure it out, come.

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Speaker 1: On, you'll be all right, And I guess you did.

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Speaker 1: And then from that point forward it was like, well

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because at that point when you're four floaties on,

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Speaker 6: it's like, well, no, you need you're old enough, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well it worked all right, Kenny g

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Speaker 1: thank you, have a good day, take care, love your

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Speaker 1: work for my money. You want a saxophone? Is you

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Speaker 1: know as good as it cans?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well then there's like kind of you were commenting on

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Speaker 1: this sort of but it's like that, it's like the

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Speaker 1: almost bullying. Oh so you oh so you're not that

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Speaker 1: tough then, right, Also, you're just gonna let all the

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Speaker 1: other kids do it a little.

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Speaker 4: Susie, yeah, little Brian, they are pretty jumped.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you not okay that so you're not like them

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Speaker 1: oh okay, you know, and I understand the psychology of it,

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Speaker 1: but in retrospect it's really mean, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Worked same with right riding a bike like I don't know,

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Speaker 4: You fall.

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Speaker 1: Because you know you're gonna fall. Yeah, because you're gonna

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Speaker 1: fall and then yeah, right, So that's that's what happened

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Speaker 7: My mom said she didn't like go and I look

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Speaker 7: back and she let go. I vividly remember that scene

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Speaker 1: Down the nails. It makes perfect sense. It's like, wow,

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Speaker 8: But yeah, he let go and I like went face

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Speaker 4: You can balance ride or fall?

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Speaker 1: Parenting is funny. Like my sister and my brother are

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