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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Morning, everybody, It's DJ Envy, just hilarious, charlamage the guy.

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Speaker 3: We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest

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Speaker 3: in the building. Yes, right, you got Rapman welcome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: My big thank you for having man.

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Speaker 4: Rapman is the creator and director of a Netflix show

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Speaker 4: that had me in a choke hold during vacation called Supercell.

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Speaker 4: From July eighth to July fourteenth, he was the number

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Speaker 4: one No, you're the most watched show on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: That's been two weeks at number.

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Speaker 1: One, two weeks not number one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seven one million views. How I feel, my brother.

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Speaker 1: I had not.

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Speaker 5: I felt it felt humbling, man, but it felt good.

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Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie to put a big smile on

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Speaker 5: my face.

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Speaker 2: How are you this morning?

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Speaker 5: Hey bro, I'm on Breakfast Club with you at Envy.

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Speaker 5: I'm feeding like I've made it right now. I'm been

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Speaker 5: this morning. You know, coming from London, these type of

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Speaker 5: rooms here, we can only see it on YouTube. No,

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Speaker 5: we see these RUMs on YouTube. We don't get into

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Speaker 5: these rooms. So I'm not even gonna say it in

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Speaker 5: front of lot.

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Speaker 1: This is a mind.

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Speaker 5: They're like, yeah, I'm on Breakfast Club, so I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 3: Let's who is rapman? Where the rap men come from?

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Speaker 3: Because you started off as a rap Let's let's go

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Speaker 3: through the career for people that don't know who rap

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Speaker 3: man is.

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Speaker 5: All right, well, I was just just like every other

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Speaker 5: guy in South London trying to rap. But them days,

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Speaker 5: our UK rap scene was it weren't where it is now.

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Speaker 5: So we're trying to sound like Big, We're trying to

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Speaker 5: sound like Jay and Packs. We're rapping with the accent

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Speaker 5: them days, and there was another form of music called

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Speaker 5: garage and grime. But I love rap so much. I

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Speaker 5: was always rapping with the American accents. I got the

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Speaker 5: nickname rap man from a young age. So my thing

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Speaker 5: is though, I was the type of person that would

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Speaker 5: love give me the lute on the album, expect to

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Speaker 5: see the music video to that, but the video will

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Speaker 5: never come out. I would listen to Jay's album Inspector here,

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Speaker 5: see the video for a week ago, and it will

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Speaker 5: never come out.

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Speaker 1: I was like, why they never do the music video

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Speaker 1: to the story?

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Speaker 2: Every day?

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Speaker 1: I like the story. That was my thing, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's never the visual.

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Speaker 5: When I start rapping, I'm going to do the visuals

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Speaker 5: to them, make them that short films. So when I

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Speaker 5: started doing music, I started doing these short films. They

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Speaker 5: were like musically narrated short videos, man. And I was

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Speaker 5: doing it for years for fun for people in my neighborhood,

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Speaker 5: and it just started growing and growing and growing into

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Speaker 5: I've done one called Shryl Story that went viral all

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Speaker 5: through the UK, landed in my boy James Samuel's hands,

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Speaker 5: who was then put it in jay Z's hands entire

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Speaker 5: tires hands and the next thing and our meeting jay

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Speaker 5: Z entire time.

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Speaker 1: They saw me to the nation and they said, what

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Speaker 1: do you want to do now that you're with us?

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Speaker 3: I tell you a rag Nations as a rapper at

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Speaker 5: No nah, they saw they saw the vision as a

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Speaker 5: filmmaker something. I'm with them as a filmmaker. So and

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Speaker 5: they said, what do you want to do? So I

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Speaker 5: got a TV show man, I got idea for a

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Speaker 5: TV show like hole Pitch. It wasn't super soll it's

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Speaker 5: another show. So they took me out to LA and

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Speaker 5: they pitched. I pitched it everywhere every studio you can

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Speaker 5: think of, FX who who, Amazon? No one wanted it,

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Speaker 5: but Netflix said, yeah, we love it, but because they're

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Speaker 5: sitting in the UK, you got to go back to

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Speaker 5: back to the UK Picture Show. She didn't want it,

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Speaker 5: but she says she's a big fan. Let's keep in touch.

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Speaker 5: That's like that didn't mean that to me. I thought, okay,

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Speaker 3: Now is that the night that they asked they wanted

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Speaker 3: to take it to dinner? And you said, I want

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Speaker 3: to go to the most expensive restaurant and get to that.

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Speaker 1: I take too much time.

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Speaker 5: So anyway, I moved on with my life and I've

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Speaker 5: wrote a movie called Blue Story, done really well in

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Speaker 5: the UK, but before it came out, there was a

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Speaker 5: big marketing campaign campaign on it. So Netflix said, look,

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Speaker 5: we want to take you out. I'm like, hey, I'm

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Speaker 5: going to rinse this. I picked the most expensive restaurant

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Speaker 5: just there eating, but they kept on asking me questions

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Speaker 5: like what do you want to do next?

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Speaker 1: Was like, I don't know. I want to see what

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Speaker 1: the film does but have you got any ideas for

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Speaker 1: a show? So I got one.

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Speaker 5: Idea and who was this with Netflix? The RGNI this

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Speaker 5: is Netflix, okay. So I gave them some idea and

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Speaker 5: I was like, this is one of those meetings. I thought,

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Speaker 5: I just came to eat food and catch up. So

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Speaker 5: with the food and my I was still in my mouth,

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Speaker 5: say look, I got this idea about people from my

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Speaker 5: part of London, South London, and they get powers. It

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Speaker 5: ain't like your capespan dex. These these people are getting

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Speaker 5: from real things. And they went quiet and I looked

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Speaker 5: up and it looked like ching. It's not that there was

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Speaker 5: duller signs of that, as I said, okay, so he's

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Speaker 5: a lot that one, and they just want me to

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Speaker 1: And then fast forward four years.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe that you're You're not gonna make me

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Speaker 4: believe that you sat down with somebody and told them

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Speaker 4: you wanted to make an all black show which people

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Speaker 4: with sickle cells superpowers and it's science fiction and they

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Speaker 4: got it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone else would have made it. I

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Speaker 5: Have helped that the head if the UK Netflix does

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Speaker 5: look like me and you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that might be that might have helped.

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Speaker 5: But I think it was such a point that the

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Speaker 5: and I think she was ready to take that chance.

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Speaker 4: Now, I don't want to give too much away from Supercell,

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Speaker 4: but I do got a lot of questions because I

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Speaker 4: really did enjoy this show. You know, you know, it

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Speaker 4: was so crazy. My wife turned it on and like

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Speaker 4: my wife goes, oh, look at Coupy, and so I

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Speaker 4: Go, oh, that's Coupy. I said, company's on this show.

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Speaker 4: So that's what That's what really made me.

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Speaker 1: That's good. We got coffee on that. That's nice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she she reached out years ago and that said

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Speaker 5: she wants to work with me, and I said she's not.

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Speaker 5: Our actress said I'm signing for you, and she was.

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Speaker 5: She came off the plane from where she was out

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Speaker 1: S man.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny.

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Speaker 4: I text her right and I go yo, I said,

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Speaker 4: we're sitting there, we're on vacation, were watching this show.

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Speaker 4: I just saw you on it. And she texted back

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Speaker 4: and she was like, oh, that's love. She was like, man,

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Speaker 4: rat Man is amazing, and I'm like, that's not the

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Speaker 4: and then it goes Ratman, I'm like, oh, okay, the show.

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Speaker 2: But where did the concept of super still come from?

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Speaker 4: Because I read in the Hollywood Reporter the death of

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Speaker 4: George Floyd was in inspiration.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it was twenty twenty when the pandemic just

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Speaker 5: kicked him and Jeorge fled obviously, and obviously I know

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Speaker 5: how it felt over here obviously, but that user weren't

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Speaker 5: alone in that feeling. In the UK and probably the

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Speaker 5: rest of the world, we just felt like it's just

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Speaker 5: a lot of people like artists and prayers were guiding

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Speaker 5: into central London to protest. People protest and that is

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Speaker 5: the best way I can use my platform to make

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Speaker 5: this to uplift black people because it was just a

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Speaker 5: blacks of feel like we're superpower. So that's when I

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Speaker 5: it for motivated by Jorge Flood, and then I wanted

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Speaker 5: to I wanted a superpower that came from something real,

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Speaker 5: and sickle cell, to me, was always something I never

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Speaker 5: understood that, like, why is there disease that genuinely puts

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Speaker 5: I never understood that. I said, nah, man, I need

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Speaker 5: to spin this on his head. Because another thing. You

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Speaker 5: I can I make this a thing of power? How

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Speaker 1: I'll take that, thugh.

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Speaker 2: Why sickle selling in particular, though, Like.

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Speaker 5: I knew I knew one girl and every time that

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Speaker 5: are you never turning up? Why are you never telling that?

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Speaker 5: She's like, oh, I've got sickle cell, And she was all,

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Speaker 5: me like a whole bag of her blood transfusion and

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Speaker 5: this was like a massive, massive You said, you're taking

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Speaker 5: this amount of blood every two weeks, and it was

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Speaker 5: crazy to me. And I ended up going down the

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Speaker 5: came from. And there's no real answers, but it was

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Speaker 5: the only factor. Is it predominantly affects darker skin. I

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Speaker 5: was like, no, if someone a gonna give me, we're

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Speaker 4: You're a hip hop head, so it's like you know

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Speaker 4: all of us first, Well, I'm not gonna say first

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Speaker 4: hurt the Cicka Seale, but Prodigy and I'm gonna was the.

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Speaker 3: First first time looked made me look into it when

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Speaker 3: I heard Prodigy had it.

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Speaker 5: First time I ever heard it was when Pac said,

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Speaker 5: ain't one of y'all got sickle cell? And that's the

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Speaker 3: The dope thing about it is the investment that they

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Speaker 3: you just film in London and go. You got special effects,

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Speaker 5: but anytime you see anybody swinging, we can't take the risks.

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Speaker 4: When Michael gets that in the chest, I don't want getaid, but.

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Speaker 5: I'm the type of person all conversation leads to curiosity,

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Speaker 4: But when I think about Michael and how he kept

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Speaker 4: but do you believe your fate is already said?

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Speaker 5: And if you've seen it to the end, and you've

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Speaker 5: That's to ask your question to make with that, and

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Speaker 5: But it wouldn't have been if I decided just to

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Speaker 5: I feel like you do have to. You have to

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Speaker 4: You said the end. Now, you gotta have these seasons

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Speaker 5: I've got a free season story in my head. Okay, yes,

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Speaker 4: Because I need to know why this is happening. Why

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Speaker 5: If Netflix pressed the button on it, I will promise

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Speaker 4: Rodney's white mama doctor whom I wouldn't be pleased about that.

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Speaker 1: I been saying why black man, rat man? Because because

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Speaker 5: I know, I see what it's like, you know, and

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Speaker 5: And I've witnessed it through the words. So my people

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Speaker 5: I would use American actors if they fit the wrong

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Speaker 5: the actors can come over like Idris and Damn Sir

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Speaker 1: Steal our jobs.

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Speaker 5: You know, we're just a bit ahead because we've had

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Speaker 2: I go from.

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Speaker 3: But that's my eleven year old thing. My eleven year

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Speaker 5: If your little one comes in and can kill the accent,

442
00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,560
Speaker 5: and I'm giving her the role. I don't care if

443
00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,159
Speaker 5: she lives over here, when she lives over there, I

444
00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,840
Speaker 5: want the best person for this role.

445
00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:09,200
Speaker 1: So it's gonna happen.

446
00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,639
Speaker 4: But you said something that you said people doing it

447
00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,879
Speaker 4: at first for a joke, right, That's what Kendrick was

448
00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,400
Speaker 4: mad at Drake about.

449
00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,359
Speaker 1: What he but he Kendricks, but Jake wraps in his

450
00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,440
Speaker 1: Canadian accent.

451
00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,040
Speaker 2: Right, you don't you show London.

452
00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,919
Speaker 1: But London the London swang.

453
00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,360
Speaker 5: I don't know if people know it, but they see

454
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,159
Speaker 5: the London swang and the Canadian swang.

455
00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,000
Speaker 1: It's they're basically the same. We use the same slang.

456
00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,080
Speaker 1: Think I never want the app to this day.

457
00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,320
Speaker 5: I don't know why, and I didn't know until I

458
00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,879
Speaker 5: used to think, why is Drake talking like us? But

459
00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,760
Speaker 5: then when I met people from I said, Oh, that's

460
00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:42,400
Speaker 5: how they talk.

461
00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,520
Speaker 1: They use the same fan cause blood, they talk like

462
00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:46,080
Speaker 1: we do.

463
00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,679
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's because they grew up closer

464
00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,600
Speaker 5: to us than the America world. I don't understand it,

465
00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,760
Speaker 5: but it is the slang. It wasn't just Drake trying

466
00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,640
Speaker 5: to jump in on the community. And I'm not here

467
00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,359
Speaker 5: to defend anybody, but I know that that's just how

468
00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:58,760
Speaker 5: they talk.

469
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Speaker 4: You know, another connection and people don't usually make the

470
00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:07,080
Speaker 4: connection at least I see between London and like Nigeria.

471
00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,000
Speaker 1: A massive I'm Nigeria.

472
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Speaker 5: A lot of it is like for my parents the

473
00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,560
Speaker 5: minute over there when your better life is in the UK.

474
00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,560
Speaker 5: So you had a lot of people go to America,

475
00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,720
Speaker 5: but a lot of Nigerians live in London, you know. So,

476
00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,320
Speaker 5: and it's just because my mom and dad would just

477
00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,880
Speaker 5: tell me that. You know that, my grandparents will tell

478
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,560
Speaker 5: them if you get well, go to London and you

479
00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,000
Speaker 5: can have a better life for your family. So in

480
00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:31,879
Speaker 5: the in the UK, Caribbean, African that's where predominantly more

481
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:32,840
Speaker 5: to the way of the blacks.

482
00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,359
Speaker 4: Off from what what's the better storytelling outlet for you?

483
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,080
Speaker 4: Music and TV TV?

484
00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,639
Speaker 5: And I'll tell you why, other than the fact that

485
00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,840
Speaker 5: you know, rapping is such a super skill and I.

486
00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,119
Speaker 1: Feel like I was okay, but I wasn't z or Biggie.

487
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,560
Speaker 1: And it's funny. I don't even think you have to

488
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,760
Speaker 1: be there normal. You just need to.

489
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,040
Speaker 5: You just need a flipping, a gimmick or hook or

490
00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,280
Speaker 5: an angle. But the thing we can do with TV

491
00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,199
Speaker 5: and film, I've got a bigger platform. I've got a

492
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,800
Speaker 5: bigger canvas to paint. Like when I was trying to

493
00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,439
Speaker 5: do a song in five minutes, it was just like

494
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:06,840
Speaker 5: I got so much more deails I want to say

495
00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:07,240
Speaker 5: about the.

496
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,040
Speaker 1: Storey or the character.

497
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,480
Speaker 5: When I get a canvas like film and TV, I

498
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 5: can stretch you out, make you feel emotion, get you

499
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 5: connected to the character.

500
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,960
Speaker 1: So for me, I'm well, I meant to be mine.

501
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,520
Speaker 5: I'm happy here, and I was wanting to keep them

502
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,440
Speaker 5: paying these big canvases.

503
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Speaker 4: Another thing about this show, and I know there's probably

504
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,640
Speaker 4: some symbolism and this. All of the main characters superpowers.

505
00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,120
Speaker 4: They come out when they seem like they're under extreme

506
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,120
Speaker 4: stress and when they're.

507
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 2: All near each other.

508
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 4: Yes, So the thing I get from that is Black

509
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,679
Speaker 4: people we definitely perform well underpressure.

510
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 2: We make the best out of the worst situations.

511
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 4: And unity and group operation I think brings out the

512
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 4: best in us as well.

513
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,120
Speaker 1: I agree with that.

514
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,160
Speaker 5: And my main thing was literally with the pressure thing,

515
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,880
Speaker 5: I feel like we only ever do become our best

516
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 5: version when we get to that peak where we think,

517
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 5: but it's that line, it's how you're gonna fall under.

518
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 5: But if you go over, that's when the greatness comes.

519
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 5: And I think that's why when it's kind of single

520
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 5: swimming or fight or flight what they say, that's when

521
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 5: it comes out. That's why if you see everyone in

522
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,879
Speaker 5: the airs when they when they were at their last

523
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 5: string and then boom, that's when it happens.

524
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,359
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, iver, you want to ask you stuff,

525
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 2: but them I'm like, am I gonna give it away?

526
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:14,920
Speaker 2: Can't give it?

527
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 1: But you know, it's been three four weeks in.

528
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 3: People more and more now I haven't seen the whole thing,

529
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 3: so people are hearing more. Yeah, that's true.

530
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 1: It's true.

531
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Speaker 3: It's true that when I heard somebody else be like, yo,

532
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 3: you gotta watch it. I'm like, I watch it some

533
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 3: of the international movies. I'm like, am I gonna be

534
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,400
Speaker 3: cool with the accident first? And like now you can

535
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 3: get it, you know what I mean?

536
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 5: No, No, that's fair enough. That's fair enough, and it's

537
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 5: true we do want it to carry on a good thing.

538
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 5: With the shows like this, there's like a nighty day

539
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 5: window to get into the top view of all time

540
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 5: and I don't know if we're heading for that or not,

541
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 5: because it's you know, you need to get black ninety

542
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 5: million views. We're on like twenty five, which is crazy

543
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 5: for a UK show. But basically they Netflix do you

544
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 5: monitor all for three four months, so it's not like

545
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 5: it's not like a music release an album and you've

546
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 5: got like the first opening week to really decide if

547
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 5: it's a hit or not. It will works like that Netflix,

548
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 5: So I don't want to spoil too much, but enough

549
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 5: to get people to want to watch.

550
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 4: There's people with the super cell collecting other people with

551
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 4: the super cell, right, yes, but they're collecting them on

552
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 4: behalf of white people.

553
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 5: Yep, I knew that. You It's funny. I saw big

554
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 5: up Vince Staple. I never I don't met him, but

555
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 5: I never met him, but I saw him tweet YO,

556
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 5: those supercoons had me shocked.

557
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: That was crazy. I was laughing at that lot.

558
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 5: I can't believe it, but you know, I literally was

559
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 5: laughing at that line when I saw that tweet. But

560
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 5: the thing with that, it's funny because I've only ever

561
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 5: been asked about this one one of an interview. We

562
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 5: are the talent, we are the culture, we are the heart.

563
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 5: We bring the energy, we bring the vibe. But do

564
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 5: we not dance for the people for the other side,

565
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 5: And it's just you can't escape it. I don't know

566
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 5: if it's because where we are based we are not

567
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 5: the majority, but where we are and where we are

568
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 5: shining no matter how great we are, Like I don't

569
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 5: want to start blowing up and cut, but use I

570
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 5: should really do use on this place. These are own

571
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like you you when I

572
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 5: think of this, I think of you guys.

573
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: You have the power.

574
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 5: But I don't know how much power you've got, but

575
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 5: I'm assuming there's always someone on top who you can't

576
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 5: do that or envy. That's a bit much in fourteen years,

577
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 5: then you're g a lot of people ain't got there.

578
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 3: We we've been lucky, we haven't how much other.

579
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 5: People do you know who is just as famous and

580
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 5: such as you who are still got astairs.

581
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 4: And I've and I've carved out my own entity here

582
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 4: called the Black Effect Podcast Network.

583
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: Let me come on that. Then we can really chop

584
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 1: it up.

585
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 4: I would love to do a super cell podcast, bro,

586
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 4: like when you breaking like you're breaking down each episode people,

587
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 4: I would love that.

588
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 5: When you're already bro, we can really go off on

589
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 5: that lap probably done. Yeah, yeah, let's do that. Let's

590
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 5: do that.

591
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 3: Let's do that.

592
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: Let's do that, Let's do it, Let's do that. Yeah.

593
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 3: Now, congratulations, you got one hundred percent critics score on

594
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 3: Written Tomatoes. You that, which is not easy. We just

595
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 3: seen with Tyler Perry. His didn't didn't do as well.

596
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: So the fact that you got one hundred percent is great.

597
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: But I was gonna ask it took four years to

598
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 3: do this one, so when season two is it gonna

599
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 3: be another four years?

600
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: Nah?

601
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 5: And it won't because a lot of that is breaking

602
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 5: the world, getting the characters right. Because the world is

603
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 5: you know the world, you know the characters, It won't

604
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 5: take as long. How long it will take it just

605
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 5: the preends and how soon they pressed the button.

606
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: They won't take us long, won't take us long.

607
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 4: And you say you got three seasons, three seasons of story?

608
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: In my head, why is three the proper number of

609
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: the end on?

610
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, maybe I'm a man.

611
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 5: When I watch anything that goes past three three parts,

612
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 5: I feel like if they pushed the battle but then

613
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 5: it get shows like The Wire, I feel like I

614
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 5: could have taken another season there. So it just depends

615
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 5: the good thing about the super Cell world it never stops.

616
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 5: Because Sickle Cells is in the US, it's in Africa.

617
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 5: I can take it everywhere, so I can it can

618
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 5: go one. But for my group of characters that I've

619
00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 5: created so far, I've got a free story plan for them.

620
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 4: This is so ill though, because I thought I was

621
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 4: going to talk to you and you was going to

622
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 4: tell me like your mother, your grandmother or somebody you know,

623
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 4: just the fact that you you care about it because

624
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 4: it impacts so many black people.

625
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 5: Bro, How can there be something that only affects you

626
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 5: because of your black bro?

627
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: They're not crazy that.

628
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 5: It's like, I feel like we need to ask more questions. Now,

629
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 5: why is no one asking where did this come from?

630
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 5: Why is no one asking why bro skinny skin? Don't

631
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 5: get the culture comes with how you're raised, But how

632
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 5: dark your skin is and how light your skin is

633
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 5: shouldn't make a difference to a disease.

634
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 4: I guess I've never done the knowledge to it to

635
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 4: even know that. I never even thought that sickle cell

636
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 4: was just a disease.

637
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 5: They say it predominantly affects black and there is some

638
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 5: other races, but I personally have never met someone that's

639
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 5: not black with it.

640
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm so, but I never understood it.

641
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 5: So I'm hoping now the conversation is out there, maybe

642
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 5: people might do some proper research and they find out

643
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 5: what the answer is.

644
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 2: How can we bring more awareness to the disease?

645
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: You think with what you're doing right now is already

646
00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: doing it.

647
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 5: There's sickle cell convention is pretty often I think just

648
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 5: mention it like that's think everyone does talk about. I

649
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 5: have a conversation, maybe get someone who's living with it

650
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 5: on the show, like beause there's a lot of people

651
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 5: in power or whatever who are living with this.

652
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 4: We've definitely had Prodigy Ante Bottle on over the.

653
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: The conversation just don't happen enough.

654
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 5: Like it's funny that episode of Power came out and

655
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 5: they mentioned it this week, and I thought, that's weird,

656
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 5: right close to super So the conversation to stick a

657
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 5: sells out on two Properer shows, but normally no one

658
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 5: talks about it. Man, Like when I was doing this

659
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 5: show in the UK, all of their execs had to

660
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 5: do the research minus my main exec whose brothers got it.

661
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 5: But everybody else they have to do the research. No

662
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 5: one knew what they was making, you know, So I

663
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Speaker 5: just think keep the conversation. Guy, man like you blood drives.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's that someone like you use yourself turned

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Speaker 5: up to blood Drives. That would be crazy, you know,

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Speaker 5: just shinning that man.

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Speaker 2: You said that I got a few questions about Rabbit.

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Speaker 4: I gotta go to you, gotta leave, you, gotta go.

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Speaker 2: I just want to know that, Like, I have a

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Speaker 2: few questions.

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Speaker 4: But like one question I had for you is you

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Speaker 4: said that the execut Netflix knew you in the UK.

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Speaker 2: So what level of rapper were you in the UK? Like,

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Speaker 2: who was comparable to you?

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Speaker 5: Okay, I wasn't known because I was, like, okay, the

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Speaker 5: biggest rapper in the UK.

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Speaker 1: Rat nice.

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Speaker 5: But essentially at that time, it wasn't wasn't cross over.

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Speaker 5: It's probably storm zy gigs love.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So but shyyh story what I done. It was this

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Speaker 5: particular project that was massive. It was the biggest thing

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Speaker 5: in the UK for years. And this is not sounding

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Speaker 5: like I'm glowing. It was just it had the whole

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Speaker 5: world in the UK in a chokehol because everyone's waiting

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Speaker 5: for the next part, because I was releasing parts like

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Speaker 5: every other month, so everybody was waiting. So, because this

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Speaker 5: is a quick example before I get pulled out, there

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Speaker 5: was a show called The Bodyguard that.

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Speaker 1: Was on BBC.

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Speaker 5: It came on Netflix after a while, but it was

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Speaker 5: massive in the UK and it was BBC's biggest show

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Speaker 5: for years, and it was out there finale. Okay, so

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Speaker 5: that finale was trending on Twitter in the UK, but

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Speaker 5: I didn't know about Bodyguard. So I released my final

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Speaker 5: part of Shower Story the same day. We trended above that.

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Speaker 5: So all the breakfast shows, the daytime shows the next

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Speaker 5: day was like, so you was probably watching this and

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Speaker 5: it was a clip of The Bodyguard or wha cast,

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Speaker 5: good show, great show, but your kids were watching this

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Speaker 5: and it was a clip of Shadow Story that had

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Speaker 5: every single network in the UK, Netflix, everyone like, who

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Speaker 5: is this guy who can do something off their own

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Speaker 5: back no money? Put it on YouTube and trend above

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Speaker 5: the biggest show that the UK's got. It opened every door. Bro,

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Speaker 5: It's like a blessing that thing there because it fell

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Speaker 5: into so much people's hands, which and then that's how

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Speaker 5: I was massive. So could a Shower story that was

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Speaker 5: before Shoo Story. I hardly nobody knew me come Sharrow Story.

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Speaker 5: I was probably one of the hottest in the UK.

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Speaker 5: So if I'm in the UK, I could have been

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Speaker 5: maybe Hole. I mean, I could have been call at

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Speaker 5: that time. I could have been calling that time Big

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Speaker 5: Three at that time, at that time. Okay, at that

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Speaker 5: time I was at that I'm not gonna sit here

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Speaker 5: and say I was. But for that moment where Showers

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Speaker 5: was out, everyone everyone, so the old the other rappers

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Speaker 5: was reaching out. Everybody reached out. It was just a

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Speaker 5: big deal, man. It was just a big deal at

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Speaker 5: the time.

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Speaker 4: And I wanted to ask you about you know, because

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Speaker 4: you are with rock Nation and it's Lucy James. It

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Speaker 4: is something about London and Brooklyn. People from London have

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Speaker 4: a energy with people in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy because one of my good friends is tighter

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Speaker 5: so Ti James, I don't know, and when we took

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Speaker 5: we're together, we don't. We don't think that we're with

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Speaker 5: someone who's across the pun. It's like I'll tell title

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Speaker 5: the time, London and New York, bro they're basically at

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Speaker 5: the same place big and obviously the laws are different.

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Speaker 5: But the reason why I could probably sit here and

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Speaker 5: chat to Youse all day because if we're it's so similar.

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Speaker 5: And I don't feel like that when I go to LA

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Speaker 5: But when I'm in New York, when I'll talk to

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Speaker 5: people from New York, it's just like I'm talking to

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Speaker 5: someone from London.

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Speaker 4: Because even when you say you love Biggie and Jay's music,

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Speaker 4: it's just like it seems like there's some type of connection.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know why.

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Speaker 5: But as I said, like I can sit down for

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Speaker 5: hours with me and Tyl with chat. I'm here with

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Speaker 5: just a name Jobs because that's actually my friend and

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Speaker 5: it's just normal yeah, yeah, big uptime and it's just

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Speaker 5: normal like me it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know mine, It's like he knows.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what that connection to have to tell me, bro,

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Speaker 5: But it does feel like that as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Yeah, And it's just a passion that I

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Speaker 4: feel from you. It's a passion I feel when I

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Speaker 4: when I when I've interacted with James, it's just a

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Speaker 4: different type of energy. And I think it reflects in

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Speaker 4: your art in such a real way. And I really am.

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Speaker 4: I just appreciate the way y'all tell black stories because

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Speaker 4: y'all tell black stories in a different way right like

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Speaker 4: here in America. It's like these execs want you to

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Speaker 4: tell black stories a certain way. A lot of times,

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Speaker 4: y'all always do it in a very unique way.

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Speaker 5: I feel because people me and James Hazan, for we

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Speaker 5: was in that position where we didn't chase the industry.

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Speaker 5: They came to us because of what we was just

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Speaker 5: doing independently. So because we wasn't pursued. Because we was pursued,

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Speaker 5: it's like, Okay, if you want us to do it,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna do it this way, or we're to stay

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Speaker 5: doing it independently over here and trending over your biggest

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Speaker 5: shows on YouTube. So so it's like okay, So because

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Speaker 5: we came in with that position of kind of like

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Speaker 5: clout means we can just do what we kind of

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Speaker 5: in the UK, but I can't do it out of

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Speaker 5: her hair yet. So hopefully these numbers keep from writing

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Speaker 5: outs so I can do it over here as well.

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Speaker 5: But the good thing is now UK Netflix is international,

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Speaker 5: so I don't have to because it's still We're all

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Speaker 5: still talking about the same show that I made in London.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations, go watch super Cell and uh, you know, get

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Speaker 4: prepared for the super Cell podcast on the Black Reflect

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Speaker 4: podcast that work hosted by Ratman Big.

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Speaker 5: I can bring some of my casting as well, That's

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Speaker 5: what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: My cast man they want to roll up, so that

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Speaker 1: would be dope.

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Speaker 2: Those podcasts like that are big over here.

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Speaker 5: Like Bro, I am bro anything to push the narrative.

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Speaker 5: As I said, I'm fans of you guys, and what

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Speaker 5: user of it she do with this? This was like

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Speaker 5: an outlet for black for the black culture across the

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Speaker 5: world because there's so many other things now, but we've

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Speaker 5: been seeing.

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Speaker 1: This for decades.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and we don't we know that this is the way

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Speaker 5: it began. So bro, anything can need to be a

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Speaker 5: part of it. I'm honest, mon, do it you have it.

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Speaker 3: It's rat May we appreciate you for joining us. It's

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Speaker 3: the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up in

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Speaker 3: the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club