WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Ain't It Fun

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast. The Ain't It Fun Living in

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<v Speaker 1>the real world? Addition, as the three and one Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>currently tied for first in the AFC North, look to

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<v Speaker 1>add to the fun as they try to upset Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers on Sunday at Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Brown Stadium. Coming up, I'll talk to the host of

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<v Speaker 1>Football Night in America every Sunday night on NBC not

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<v Speaker 1>to mention the Olympics, Triple Crown horse races and well

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<v Speaker 1>you name it, He's done it, the great Mike Tarico.

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<v Speaker 1>My one on one player interview this week is with

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<v Speaker 1>a member of the Bengals who spent seven years playing

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<v Speaker 1>with Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay, Mike Daniels. Dave Lapham

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<v Speaker 1>joins me to discuss the latest Bengals news and share

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<v Speaker 1>some keys to Sunday's game. And finally, it's our no

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<v Speaker 1>the Faux segment, as we find out just how serious

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<v Speaker 1>all of the Packers injuries are as we visit with

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Doherty from the Green Bay Press Gazette. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>Booth Podcast is presented by Bud light Seltzer refreshed the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's a quick reminder that you can have the

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<v Speaker 1>or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify,

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<v Speaker 1>or pod Bean. It's the greatest thing since my incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>good fortune last week. Beginning on the last Sunday in September,

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<v Speaker 1>I called a Bengals road win over the dreaded, hated

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<v Speaker 1>but grudgingly respected Pittsburgh Steelers. Four nights later, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the dramatic come from behind Thursday night victory over Jacksonville,

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<v Speaker 1>ending on a game winning field goal at the gun.

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<v Speaker 1>And two days after that, it was you see's huge

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<v Speaker 1>winted Notre Dame, ending a twenty six game home winning

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<v Speaker 1>streak for the Fighting Irish. To make that even better,

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<v Speaker 1>my fifteen year old son Sam was with me in

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<v Speaker 1>the booth at Notre Dame, making it a great father

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<v Speaker 1>son memory. To paraphrase Lou Garrig, last week I considered

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<v Speaker 1>myself so the luckiest man man man on the face

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<v Speaker 1>of the earth. Earth. Now let's get to this week's guests,

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<v Speaker 1>Beginning with perhaps the most versatile broadcaster in the business.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the host of Football Night in America on

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<v Speaker 1>NBC and one of the most accomplished broadcasters of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also my college buddy from Syracuse University, Mike Tarico. Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my first question. When you and the crew are

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<v Speaker 1>watching a Bengals game on Sunday getting ready for Football

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<v Speaker 1>Night in America and you're observing Joe Burrow, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you and Tony Dungee and Rodney Harrison and Drew Brees

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<v Speaker 1>saying about the Bengals quarterback. Well, first off, it's great

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<v Speaker 1>to be with one of the best. It's great to

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<v Speaker 1>be back with my buddy and talk to you here, Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>So we watched the games, and the Bengals have, as

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<v Speaker 1>you all well know, been in the one o'clock Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday time slot a lot over the last several years.

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<v Speaker 1>So in that mix, the Bengals game usually isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>most important game, so it has not been in the

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<v Speaker 1>most prominent spot. But that's changing now. So that alone

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<v Speaker 1>tells you what's going on the first month of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>What they say about Burrow is a wow, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Drew Brees really kind of caught my

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<v Speaker 1>attention last week and just pointing out that there's just

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<v Speaker 1>something about Burrow. As a matter of fact, we're in

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<v Speaker 1>South Bend on Friday after the Thursday night game and

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<v Speaker 1>talking just about what Joe Burrow brings to the table

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<v Speaker 1>that a guy who's proven himself to get to this

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<v Speaker 1>point plays with that kind of moxie, that kind of poise,

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<v Speaker 1>and we both remarked, and Tony Dungee has said this

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<v Speaker 1>as well, just the way he handles being QB one.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not just on the field, that's everything. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think you saw it in the postgame Thursday night

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<v Speaker 1>on an NFL network. All the fans are there, Joe's there,

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<v Speaker 1>three and one, the world is great. It's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's relax. We haven't done anything just yet. And that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of along with the physical talents, are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be what gives Cincinnati another good quarterback for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Bengals had a good one when Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton was there. There was a success. I know people

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<v Speaker 1>don't look back at that the way that they should.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, I think you're set up for another

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<v Speaker 1>run that may even be better with Joe being there. Well, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll love hearing that compliment from Drew Brees since Drew

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<v Speaker 1>was his favorite NFL quarterback growing up. Aside from Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>what's caught your eye in this three and one start?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the pieces are there, Zach's done a really

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<v Speaker 1>good job with working the pieces of this offense. You

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<v Speaker 1>know you have run ability that mixed new Zamba coming

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<v Speaker 1>in the game. Obviously Jamar Chase and Boyd the receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you look at the field and you go, there

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<v Speaker 1>are four guys here to get the ball too. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's that and then it's playing with the confidence. You know, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>I live in the Detroit area. I grew up a

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<v Speaker 1>Jets fan, so I've seen firsthand for generations that the

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<v Speaker 1>inevitability that the anvil hanging over the team is going

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<v Speaker 1>to fall at some point late third quarter, the inability

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<v Speaker 1>to handle prosperity, and I feel this Bengals team has

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<v Speaker 1>a different feel about it, that comfort with being in

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<v Speaker 1>those spots, the ability to take that moment, seize it

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<v Speaker 1>and control the game. There wasn't a panic down fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>nothing at Jacksonville at halftime, and the team methodically came

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<v Speaker 1>back like we're the better team. We're gonna get there.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm playing our best. That to me is a

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<v Speaker 1>maturity and a growth level and a team, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm seeing. What I've seen from the Bengals the

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<v Speaker 1>first month of the season. Three and one is great,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's only roughly one quarter into the season. What

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<v Speaker 1>would a successful season looked like in your opinion for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals. Yeah, that's the most screwed up thing of

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<v Speaker 1>having seventeen games. We don't know what the quarter pole is.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know at the halfway pole. Nobody can be

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<v Speaker 1>a five hundred team anymore. You know, what do we say?

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<v Speaker 1>The league is set up for nine and eight or

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<v Speaker 1>eight and nine. I think in this division that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good record because Pittsburgh obviously is on an arc that's

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<v Speaker 1>going down at this point. But certainly Cleveland and Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>are two elite teams. And when you look at those

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<v Speaker 1>six games in your division, can you scratch four and

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<v Speaker 1>two out of that? If so, that's a good year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Cincinnati's relevance and quality makes it just

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<v Speaker 1>that as well. So can you be in the playoff

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<v Speaker 1>mix when we hit December? Because those games being played

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<v Speaker 1>by Joe Burrow by Chase By everybody who's young in

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<v Speaker 1>this organization who has not been through that playoff run.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the valuable things. And if you can get there,

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<v Speaker 1>and with seven it may be a little bit easier

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<v Speaker 1>to get there than it used to be, that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the AC West is strong, so that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit of the problem. The depth of

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<v Speaker 1>the ACY West, the depth of the AMCY North. A

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<v Speaker 1>key injury one place or the other might see if

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<v Speaker 1>three teams from one division can get in. But overall,

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<v Speaker 1>I think let's get to Thanksgiving December still be very

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<v Speaker 1>much in the playoff mix. That's a successful season to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Big test coming up on Sunday with Aaron Rodgers and

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers rolling into Paul Brown Stadium. Any early thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on that match shot. You know, Green Bay was a

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<v Speaker 1>mess after Week one, and then after a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks you start to see, okay, they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be that bad, but they're not at the level where

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<v Speaker 1>they were the last two years where they went to

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC Championship Game. They're searching for that. On the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive side of the ball. With Joe Barry, their new

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<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator, I think they figured out who they want

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<v Speaker 1>to be and what they can be over the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks, and Aaron Rodgers and DeVante Adams are

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<v Speaker 1>just ridiculous, along with Aaron Jones. Those three together are

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<v Speaker 1>so hard to handle. And I really think of Rogers.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have this category Breeze now retired, sitting

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<v Speaker 1>with us. You've got Brady and Roethlisberger and the quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>who've been around for so long. You've got the guys

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<v Speaker 1>in their prime like Russell Wilson and Matthew Stafford. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you got all this young, great talent on Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrows at the head of that list. But Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>isn't in that veteran group yet that he's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of managed. He still does magical things. There are two

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<v Speaker 1>or three throws a game where whether it's Dungee or

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<v Speaker 1>Breeze sitting to them, where us as fans were like, gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still unbelievable. And it's armed talent. It's the mental acuity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the ability to still scramble when you need to scramble.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers will make four or five plays that the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals cannot be prepared to defend because nobody knows that's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the plays that win games. Consincinnati get on

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<v Speaker 1>them early, create an atmosphere where it's tough to communicate

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<v Speaker 1>because they love to communicate. That would be, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>the seeds of getting a win. A win that would

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<v Speaker 1>open up a lot of eyes around the NFL to

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<v Speaker 1>how real the Bengals are. Our guest is Mike Dariko

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<v Speaker 1>from NBC Sports. You've called a lot of Bengals games

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<v Speaker 1>over the years. Do you have a moment or a

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<v Speaker 1>game that immediately comes to mind? There are a bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>There was actually a Thursday night where we shot saw

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Watson as a visitor breakout of the fifty yard

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown right like whoa really? And we saw how good

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<v Speaker 1>he was the last couple of years he played after that.

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<v Speaker 1>But a Bengal centric moment has to be Monday Night

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<v Speaker 1>Football Week one, two thousand and seven against the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>when Palmer to Johnson touchdown and chad Ocho Cinco Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>of course goes for the Hall of Fame jacket with

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<v Speaker 1>the back saying hof class two zero, question mark, question

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<v Speaker 1>mark nothing better. That was the epic moment of celebrations

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<v Speaker 1>for the Bengals and Chad taking to a high level.

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<v Speaker 1>My personal favorite wasn't a Monday Night was using the

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<v Speaker 1>pylon as a putter and making the play. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was the all time best for me. But to

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<v Speaker 1>come over, have the jacket place ready wide enough to

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<v Speaker 1>get over the shoulder pads, go to the back, show

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<v Speaker 1>that what was on the back of the gold jacket.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about all the planning that had to happen, and

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<v Speaker 1>he still had to catch a touchdown for that to

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<v Speaker 1>do it on Monday night football week one. Absurd, Yes, memorable.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's fourteen years later and I feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>was yesterday looking down at the field and saying, my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>what is he doing? That's pretty funny. So you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to think back very far for the next question.

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<v Speaker 1>You called this Cincinnati Notre Dame game last week in

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<v Speaker 1>South Band. Are the Bearcats worthy of legitimate consideration for

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<v Speaker 1>a four team playoff if they keep this up? It

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<v Speaker 1>was my honor to be the second best play by

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<v Speaker 1>play guy on that game after you calling it for

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<v Speaker 1>the UC fans on the radio. But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they are. I think they are. There are enough people

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<v Speaker 1>on that defense at every level. What do you look

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<v Speaker 1>at for a good defense? Every level of players right

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<v Speaker 1>and from Sanders to Beavers just sauce. There are players

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<v Speaker 1>at every level for you see on the defense and side,

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<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of other guys to go with them too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just one or two stars. And you got

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback who's got it? You know what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's that whole thing that I can't really describe it.

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<v Speaker 1>When you see it, you know it. Ritter has it

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<v Speaker 1>as a quarterback. You know, is he going to throw

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<v Speaker 1>the ball through the through the door, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>just break through the plywood of the door because he

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<v Speaker 1>has such a huge arm. No, is he going to

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<v Speaker 1>outrun everybody on the field A lot of guys, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not everybody. But he's also got that intangible and

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you see a team that knows what's

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<v Speaker 1>at stake and on the road, they blow up big

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<v Speaker 1>lead and now it's at got to have a drive

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<v Speaker 1>and he leads you to a got to have a drive.

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<v Speaker 1>That to me showed me these guys can do it

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<v Speaker 1>on this stage. I think they can. Hopefully they can

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<v Speaker 1>handle the prosperity. They'll move up to number four if

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<v Speaker 1>they win. This week because of the matchups and the

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<v Speaker 1>polls and all that. And now they're there. Now everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be watching them much closer. It's on their plate.

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<v Speaker 1>Can they finish the meal? If so, I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>see them in the playoff. I took my usual shot

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<v Speaker 1>at the college football Playoff, Dan. If five of us

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<v Speaker 1>were investing in a company, would we say let's share

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<v Speaker 1>the profits four ways? Of course? Not so. Right At

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<v Speaker 1>the very core of it, the College Football Playoff was

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<v Speaker 1>set up in the most stupid fashion possible. The conference

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<v Speaker 1>stakeholders didn't give themselves a seat at the table. Guarantee.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't say anything for any of the group of

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<v Speaker 1>five schools. Cincinnati, by their play last year, started out

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<v Speaker 1>high enough this year to get a chance. Everything of

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<v Speaker 1>that program, the way it's a run, the organization, the administration,

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<v Speaker 1>the support, the fans at home, the coaching staff, the

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<v Speaker 1>radio play by play guy, everything is worthy of national

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<v Speaker 1>championship contender level. Let's see somebody take a swing, and

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<v Speaker 1>you see the perfect school to do that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think absolutely they're in it for the run here and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to watch. I'm pretty sure they don't

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<v Speaker 1>consider the radio play by play guy, but I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>the thought. Last thing for Mike Tarico. How much fun

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<v Speaker 1>was it last Sunday night to be in New England

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<v Speaker 1>for Tom Brady's return. It was incredible playing and simple.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you know, we do a lot of build up

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<v Speaker 1>when you do pregame shows and you're just like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is a little over the top. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt really different. We opened the show. I got to

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<v Speaker 1>do the walk that Brady was going to do for

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<v Speaker 1>the visitor's tunnel out and down onto the field and

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<v Speaker 1>doing it at seven o'clock. It was really cool. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got the chance of a bunch of cool things. That

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the cooler things to take people behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes, to see Robert Craft waiting to talk to Brady,

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<v Speaker 1>to see the people as he walked in, the fist bumps,

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<v Speaker 1>the hugs. It was an emotional night for the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback we've ever seen, going up against the greatest head

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<v Speaker 1>coach we've ever seen, and the game came down to

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<v Speaker 1>this much. I was on the field to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six yard field goal. It had a thud to

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<v Speaker 1>it in the wet conditions. It was hit hard. If

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<v Speaker 1>that ball is this much further to the right, the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots win the game on a last minute drive led

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<v Speaker 1>by the guy who's supposed to be the next big

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback in New England. Like you write the whole deal

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<v Speaker 1>up and if you submit that one, you're like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>that that's not going to happen. It was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the special nights in the NFL. I'm so glad that

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<v Speaker 1>the ratings showed that people were invested in it and

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<v Speaker 1>care in it, and I think I care about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think there'll be a halo effect too, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think people are so into the emotional stories and

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<v Speaker 1>the exciting stories of the NFL this year, not just

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<v Speaker 1>in New England and Tampa with Brady and Belichick and

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<v Speaker 1>where they go, but around the league. Two that had

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<v Speaker 1>one of those magnet moments that make you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you know on a campus what's going on in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a night I'll remember for a long time

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<v Speaker 1>and an honor and a pleasure to be on the

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<v Speaker 1>field as Brady kind of ran out for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time as a visitor. Mike, you're the best. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>your time and your friendship. Keep up the great work.

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<v Speaker 1>Same here. It's great to see a pal's great death,

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast with you and your awesome sun, and to look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to a lot of Bengals and Bearcats wins the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the fall. So be good, budd. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to know Mike when he was a freshman and I

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<v Speaker 1>was an upperclassman at Syracuse, and I knew right away

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<v Speaker 1>that he was going to be a star. He certainly is,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet he truly hasn't changed a bit. He's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most generous, thoughtful people I have ever met.

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<v Speaker 1>Up next, Bengals defensive tackle Mike Daniels, who is currently

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bengals practice squad. He was a fourth round

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick by the Green Bay Packers in twenty twelve

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<v Speaker 1>and brings a unique perspective to this week's game. If

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<v Speaker 1>anybody knows about Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Bengals defensive lineman Mike Daniels. You spend seven grade

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<v Speaker 1>eight years in Green Bay, were selected to the Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl three times, chosen by your peers as one of

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<v Speaker 1>the top one hundred players in the league, made it

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<v Speaker 1>to two NFC Championship games. When you look back at

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<v Speaker 1>those great years in Green Bay, what do you cherish

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<v Speaker 1>the most what I really cherish is just my development,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, as a player and as

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<v Speaker 1>a man. Anybody can tell you that the time he's

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<v Speaker 1>been in NFL is definitely gonna help you grow and mature.

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<v Speaker 1>And I definitely left a much better pro than I

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<v Speaker 1>did when I walked in. And I definitely have like

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<v Speaker 1>the similar feeling while I'm here. You know, just that development,

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<v Speaker 1>constant growth, continue to be a better pro, better leader.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's a just thankful you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>from my development there. I'm sure there were more number

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<v Speaker 1>twelve jerseys in the stands, but there was a love

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<v Speaker 1>affair between Packers fans and yourself. There were a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of number seventy six jerseys at Lambeau. Most of us

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<v Speaker 1>will never know what that's like. What is that relationship

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a fan base that really admires you

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Well, I've been going for years now. This

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<v Speaker 1>will be the third and the last two season they've

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<v Speaker 1>been asking me for me to come back, So I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that tells you everything. Even now I post something

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<v Speaker 1>I get at least you know, five or six different

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<v Speaker 1>um Packers fans saying bring him back, Aaron GM, Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>bring him back, you know. I mean, so that's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful feeling. And to have that type of love

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<v Speaker 1>and appreciation and acceptance from the fans, that's that's everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And once again, it's it's I feel the same stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that I feel with Judae nation Man, the way I've

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<v Speaker 1>been embraced, the way I've been accepted. Once again, there's

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<v Speaker 1>arrows like we can't wait to see you back out

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<v Speaker 1>there playing. We're looking forward to see you rolling again.

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<v Speaker 1>So like it's really cool to have that type of

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<v Speaker 1>really great relationship with your fan based who supports you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. We're chatting with Mike Daniels. Aaron Rodgers or

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<v Speaker 1>as your teammate the entire time you were there, you

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<v Speaker 1>were there for one of his MVP seasons in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you respect most about Aaron Rodgers? Just as

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<v Speaker 1>the way he carried himself. He's a great teammate. He

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<v Speaker 1>treats everybody the same, doesn't matter if you're Davanta Adams

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<v Speaker 1>Is go to Target or you're a you know, rookie

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad guy who they just sign. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>treat you the exact same way. And it's just that

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<v Speaker 1>respect that he walks around the building with that I

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<v Speaker 1>greatly appreciate. When he was contemplating his future in the

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<v Speaker 1>off season, did you think there was a chance he

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<v Speaker 1>would retire. I know there was no chance that he's retired.

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<v Speaker 1>He ain't retire no time soon. He's too much of

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<v Speaker 1>a competitor. He's very smart. He knows what he's doing. Man, Aaron,

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<v Speaker 1>he loves the game. He didn't return no time soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier this year on NFL Network, he said that Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow is a lot like Aaron Rodgers. You said that

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<v Speaker 1>Joe is baby Aaron. Those are the words that you used.

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<v Speaker 1>What similarities do you see? Joe definitely. Once again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just the respect he has for everybody in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>right And I've been around long enough and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of rookies aren't like that. And for or you have

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<v Speaker 1>a number one overall pick to come in and you

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<v Speaker 1>know understand what he has to do the importance of

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<v Speaker 1>his job. That's ah. He definitely takes everything seriously. Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>the same way. He knows when the he knows when

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<v Speaker 1>the lightning to move. Aaron the same way. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>a leader. Aaron's the same way he definitely will make

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<v Speaker 1>sure he brings the best out of the guys who

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<v Speaker 1>are blocking for him, who he's throwing too, and who's

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<v Speaker 1>who's running the ball. And likewise, the defense, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our job is to get the ball back for him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he makes you want to do that. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Mike Daniels. Aaron Rodgers is obviously not the only

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<v Speaker 1>former teammate that's still in Green Bay. Aaron Jones, Defante Adams,

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<v Speaker 1>Randall Cobb, the list goes on and on. Is your

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge of those guys helpful it all this week? Absolutely? Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think David is playing, you know, and haven't

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<v Speaker 1>going to be against him. That definitely would have helped.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other guy absolutely. I know how those guys run,

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<v Speaker 1>catch the guys playing on defense, so you you always

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<v Speaker 1>want to help be able to give you guys an edge.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just how it goes in the NFL. And just

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<v Speaker 1>I've been inside those walls, so I know the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the player and the person and that that

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<v Speaker 1>that definitely definitely helps being able to help my teammates.

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<v Speaker 1>Oll here, you haven't been on the active roster yet

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<v Speaker 1>this year, but it's football. Injuries happen. You're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>needed at some point. How are you staying sharp and

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<v Speaker 1>how are you contributing right now? Well, so staying sharps,

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<v Speaker 1>just being a professional. I'm training, definitely putting a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of working on the off days, putting extra working while

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here and practicing heart preparing for when my number

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<v Speaker 1>is called because we'll be called, and really being attentive

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<v Speaker 1>in the meetings right staying on top of the game, playing,

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<v Speaker 1>preparing every week like as if I'm going to play,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if I'm going to start. And I've been

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<v Speaker 1>traveling every week. You know, I've been on the silent

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<v Speaker 1>every game, you know the guys and they've they've really

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<v Speaker 1>been wanting me to give the pregame speech every week.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's one of the biggest that's the biggest comment

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever received as a player ten years and for

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<v Speaker 1>my teammates is still you know, view me as a leader,

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<v Speaker 1>put me in a leadership role. And I really take

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<v Speaker 1>that seriously and I appreciate all my brothers here in

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<v Speaker 1>his locker room for doing so. I'm on the sidelines

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<v Speaker 1>definitely coaching guys up, helping out and all the ways

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<v Speaker 1>I possibly can those brothers you referred to have been

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<v Speaker 1>playing great. The defense is off to a tremendous start.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you start to think it might be this good? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that from the beginning, and I was saying

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<v Speaker 1>that on all season, where I could look at the

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<v Speaker 1>guys we brought it, and the guys who were coming back,

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<v Speaker 1>and the guys who were healthy. So I'm just looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward for the opportunity to be able to get out

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<v Speaker 1>there and physically contribute, you know, to that process. Because

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<v Speaker 1>the guys are playing really well right now. They're doing

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<v Speaker 1>awesome and it's very fun to watch. Zach Taylor keeps

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<v Speaker 1>mentioning your leadership. I know that's real. I appreciate you'd

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<v Speaker 1>spending some time with us today and look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>seeing you back out in the field. Absolutely. Thanks. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't mean I'm looking forward get me back out there

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<v Speaker 1>as well. At the age of thirty two, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Daniel still has some good football left in him.

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<v Speaker 1>But when he decides he's finished, he'll make a great

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<v Speaker 1>broadcaster if that interests him. The Bengals Booth podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Bud light Seltzer. It's light and refreshing with

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<v Speaker 1>of the key storylines heading into Sunday's game with my

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast partner Dave lapham So Lap. On Wednesday, while talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Cincinnati reporters, offensive line coach Frank Pollock said that

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow has an aura that reminds him of a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback he played with in San Francisco, four time Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl champion, Joe Montana. What was your reaction when you

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<v Speaker 1>heard that? That was like high cotton right there, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's about as higher praise as you can get.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know the original Joe Cool, you know Joe Montana.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see it. I can see it in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things. Body type, demeanor, not a Howitzer, but

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<v Speaker 1>extremely accurate, just intelligent, saw the whole field, diagnosed things

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<v Speaker 1>great pre snap, great post snap. I can I can

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<v Speaker 1>see the I can see the comparisons big time. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you he just threw it out there that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the or the the presence kind of thing um self

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<v Speaker 1>confidence and exuding all of that. It's it's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And Frank Pollock, I trust him as an evaluator of talent,

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<v Speaker 1>as an evaluator of human beings. I mean, he played

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<v Speaker 1>with them, so he knows him intimately. And now he's

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<v Speaker 1>been around Joe Burrow enough to get a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>handle on him. If Frank Pollock says there are similarities there,

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<v Speaker 1>who that's stronger than new Rope because that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great thing to have a guy of that caliber

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<v Speaker 1>around here for who knows how much longer, hopefully the

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<v Speaker 1>move a decade or more. That's the thing that was

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<v Speaker 1>striking to me because we're not talking about an ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>talk show. This isn't a hot take from Stephen A.

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<v Speaker 1>Smith or Max Kellerman or Skip Bayliss on Fox. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Frank Pollock, who isn't generally effusive with his praise,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a guy that he spent nearly a decade

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<v Speaker 1>with as a teammate in the NFL, in the locker room,

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.679
<v Speaker 1>in the in the meeting room, on the football field,

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<v Speaker 1>in the huddle, you know, everywhere, and to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to draw, to draw that that type of comparison, that

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<v Speaker 1>that's the name that you that you pull out of

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<v Speaker 1>your head when you're trying to find somebody to compare

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow's demeanor. Two Extremely high praise, Extremely high praise

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<v Speaker 1>coming from, like you said, a very trustworthy source. You

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<v Speaker 1>know it's not it's not anybody looking for shock value,

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<v Speaker 1>looking for ratings, looking for whatever. Just telling it like

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<v Speaker 1>it is, you know, right from his right, from his

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<v Speaker 1>heart in his head. Let's stick with Frank Pollock. He

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<v Speaker 1>was asked a bunch of questions about Jackson Carmen and

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>had positive things to say about Jackson. In the first

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 1>two games, he started a right guard, but he saved

0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:15.680
<v Speaker 1>his highest praise for the guy starting at left guard,

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Quentin Spain. For what it's worth, Pro Football Focus has

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 1>him graded higher than Kevin Zeitler so far this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Quentin Spain deserve more praise than he typically gets? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he loves being under the radar. But I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>he is one big, strong individual. I mean he's everywhere

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:39.919
<v Speaker 1>you can be, big, broad, thick, wide, I mean he

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>is just he's a massive man. And when you you know,

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 1>pat him on the shoulder, pat him on the back,

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 1>shake his hand. Everything solid as a rock. I mean

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing loose there. You know, he's not fleshy. He

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<v Speaker 1>is just thick and he is. Frank Pollock described it perfectly.

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's got some meat hook hands. He gets

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 1>his hands on people. He's got so much strength in

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 1>his hands. When he locks on boy, you're done. I mean,

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you're you're grabbed, you're you're You're basically in control of

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Quentin Spain at that point in time. And he doesn't

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 1>get bull rushed. You know, you don't see him, you know,

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>getting walked back to the quarterback immediately. He is one

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:25.359
<v Speaker 1>big human being that can anchor himself. And and uh

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>and yet people, you know when when teammates and opponents,

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>even more specifically opponents, when they say, oh, I mean

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 1>when you hit that guy, you've been hit. And when

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>he locks on you, you can't get away. He's strong,

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>he's this he's at when when you keep getting all

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 1>the people with the same evaluation, it's a it's a

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a real deal. At that point in time, this

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>guy is definitely a beast. There's no question about it. Now,

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, is he the most graceful athlete in the world.

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily, but is he athletic enough? Hell? Yeah, you know.

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:01.199
<v Speaker 1>And and he's a big, strong, powerful human being. What

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<v Speaker 1>I liked about what Frank mentioned about him as well,

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 1>was in the classroom, he'll ask questions he knows the

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<v Speaker 1>answer to, but he thought maybe Frank didn't quite get

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>as deep into his explanation as he thought the younger

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 1>guys might need. So he asked a follow up question,

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and he knows what the subject matter is going to be,

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>what the answer is, And Frank said, I love that

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 1>about him. You know, he's he's like he's helping me coach.

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Basically he's a fun guy to coach. And that's that's

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 1>a big plus. So it's it's an unique room and

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.199
<v Speaker 1>that you've got some young guys, but you've got some

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, Wiley kg veteran intelligent guys like Quentin Spain,

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Trey Hopkins, Riley Reef. I mean it's a it's a

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 1>good mix. It's a good blend both, you know, mentally, experienced, wise, physically,

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.640
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of ways. You see's offensive line coach Ron

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Crook coach Quintin Spain at West Virginia says, strongest human

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<v Speaker 1>being I have ever met. I think he can bench

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:03.120
<v Speaker 1>push the stadium. That would be impressive. So Jenna Williams

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<v Speaker 1>also spoke to reporters on Wednesday. He said something that

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>made me think of you. He said, the offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>is like an opera or a dance where everybody has

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<v Speaker 1>to be in sync. And he felt that was much

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<v Speaker 1>better in the second half of the Jacksonville game than

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 1>it had been previously. How much progress do you see

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 1>along those lines? I see quite a bit. And you know,

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I remember just back in the day when Jim McNally

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<v Speaker 1>was coaching us and he wanted everybody stepping with the

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>same foot, and you don't have to do that to

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>be a great offensive line. When you looked at end

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>zone tape of the Oakland Raiders, Art Shell, gene Up Shell,

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>they were doing stuff a lot differently. I mean, they

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>were just they were just big brutes to beat up.

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>And they weren't a whole lot of technique there. They

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>just mauled you. And footwork and all that wasn't you know,

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't It wasn't synchronized. You know, like uh, you

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>know I said earlier, three hundred pound June tailor dances.

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, you look, everybody stepped on the same foot initially,

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and then the hand placed it with the left hand

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in the same spot. You know, unless there are different

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>shades of the defensive line and all that, that will

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>alter some things. But when they do their a wide

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 1>zone or their stretch play, it looks like everybody's you know,

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>went to dance class, and they're taking the same steps

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and doing the same type of things and trying to

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>get the same aiming point the target to widen the

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>defensive line. And um, so so every everybody's on the

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>on the same page in that regard. And uh, like

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.239
<v Speaker 1>you said, you know, my big thing is when an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line is playing like a fist, you know, you

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 1>don't have to think about wrapping the four fingers and

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 1>curling the thumb around it. You just you just do it.

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>And and they're mastering the mundane as Frank Pollock talks

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>about and and Jonah talked about, you know, you don't

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>when the when the play is called, you don't go

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<v Speaker 1>to line of stagram and you have to think about

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the first step. It's just they do it so much,

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>it just happens, you know, you just that you're just

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>going right to that you can you can get to

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>something else during the course of the play that you

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>might get your mind advanced to instead of having to

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>worry about that first step or making an adjustment on

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>that first step. So all that is is really good

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.959
<v Speaker 1>um and he I remember this with with Bill Johnson,

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.239
<v Speaker 1>with Tiger Johnson. When I first started trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>some of the techniques, he was teaching me that you

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>had to unlearn and relearn techniques. In the heat of battle,

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you go back to the old technique that you did

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>in college and it'd be like you didn't even know

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you did it. You'd watch the tape the next day

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>you go, oh, my gosh, I can't believe I did

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>that footwork. But in the heat of battle, that's what

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you go back to. Until you've gone through mastering the

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>mundane and doing all the reps, you know, day after

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>day after day after day with the new techniques, and

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>then they become, you know, the thing that you automatically

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>go to in your in your muscle memory. So it's

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it's very interesting to watch the development of that. And

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>as every day goes by, it's another you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of reps added to the mix of mastering the mundane,

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and they become more and more more cohesive and more

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and more like a fist, you know, instead of like

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, two or three fingers being wrapped or up

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>from four closer to five, having pretty four and then

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.479
<v Speaker 1>pretty soon that thumb's going to wrap over the other

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>powerful fifth. Let's move to the Bengals defense. Eighth and

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>points allowed, eighth and yards per running play tied for fifth,

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>and yards per passing play tied for eighth. And sacks

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>with eleven. They had seventeen all of last year. I

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>can't believe I'm about to ask this question. Do the

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Bengals have a glaring weakness on defense? Boy? You know,

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I when all hands are on deck, they're pretty darn good.

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>And you know, you like the fact that last week

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>they were down a starting corner and starting safety and

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>they had enough depth in the roster to, you know,

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>to make necessary adjustments and hang in there and win

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>a football game on a nationally televised broadcast of the NFL. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think I think that they've got they've

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>addressed a lot of their last week. Excuse me. Last year,

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I think there were more glaring weaknesses than there were

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>things that you could count on. Now it's now, it's

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>like everything's been addressed, everything's been taken care of. You know,

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>they've they've got they've got quality depth at just about

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>every position group. And that's that's a that's a real

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>tribute to the organization. Um, you know, the scouting department,

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the organization for for drafting them, and now the coaches

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>for developing it and uh and the players for you know,

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>becoming cohesive and are very timely fashion. I think not

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>only did they get players that that can play, but

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>they get players that know what it's supposed to look like,

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>and players that came from winning cultures, winning traditions, and

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>players that are you know, from a personality standpoint, leaders

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>rather than followers. They had too many players that didn't

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>know what it was supposed to look like, and you know,

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>uh didn't know who to follow, never mind where to go.

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Last year it was it was a real problem. All right,

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to the Green Bay Pack several years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals are getting ready to play a team that

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<v Speaker 1>had one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. I

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>don't remember if it was Drew Brees or Russell Wilson

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>or Brady or who exactly it was, but I distinctly

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>remember being in the locker room. Were gathered around Adam

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Jones locker. Somebody asks him if this great quarterback was

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the best quarterback in the NFL. And like this disgusted

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>look on his face happens and he goes, bro it's

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers. It ain't even close. What is it about

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers of all these great guys that it seems

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>like people in the know, the people in the game

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>point to that guy as the guy. You know, you

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>look at all the attributes and all the boxes that

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow checks, Aaron Rodgers checks them, and a lot

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>of them are check plus. You know, it's like checks

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>them like at the highest level. You can check him

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>at I just you know, with him, his intelligence, his

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>raw intelligence is on question is unquestioned. I mean, he's

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>doing things like, you know, as he's getting a call

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>from his sideline, he's looking at their sideline. If they're

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to sub lady, he's gonna quick snap and you know,

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>pick up a penalty. Um, little things like the hard count.

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>He's the he might be the best hard count by that,

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, um, a non rhythmic cadence where

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>he tries to draw the defensive lineman off side and

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>instead of a hut hud hut. He's good, you know,

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>he's and he's so good at it. And I mean

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>to me. It's it's repetition again, mastering the mundane. If

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm an offensive lineman, that's hard to hold your water

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>when he's doing that. And you've got a defensive lineman

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>who's got always waiting on his hand and he's trying to,

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, sprint off the football, and it's like, man,

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>you know you want to make sure that you get

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>a good jump too, but you can't. You don't want

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 1>to blow the hard count opportunity. You may get a

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>free five yards. I don't know how many first downs

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>he's generated by penalty on a third and five or

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>less with that hardcount stuff, or making it you know,

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>third and eight, a third and three, which is taking

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the free shot or taking the free shot. No question,

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 1>how many touchdowns he's thrown, touchdown bombs he's thrown on

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the free shot, because he knows, no matter what happens,

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:17.240
<v Speaker 1>i've got five yards. You know, a worst case scenario,

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting a replay of the Donald. I'm picking up

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>five yards. So that's a good starting point. I'll take

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever shot I can take. So he is he's masterful

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>with that stuff. And then his physical attributes are I've

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>said it before, he is a guy that Usually when

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>you watching most quarterbacks, they're feet and legs and arm

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and everything has to follow through in a perfect rhythm

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and a perfect sequence. This guy can be running towards

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the sideline and be facing the sideline with his legs

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and upper torso and look down the football field. I

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>saw him do it the first year we played up

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>in Green Bay, and he just he's running to the

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 1>left to the Green Bay sideline, sprinting, and he looks

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and he sees the see he breaking. It's put like

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>thirty five forty yards down the field, out toward their

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 1>towards their bench, and he snaps his shoulders around and

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 1>squares him up and doesn't even do anything with his legs,

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>continues to run towards the stiglite and throws his seed

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 1>in a very tight hole. They make the catch and

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>tap tapping out of bounds. I was like, what did

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I just see? What I just saw? I mean that

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen anybody make a throw like that. I

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>don't care who the guy was, how strong his arm was,

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the arm strength, the accuracy, all of it. And then

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 1>he can he can change the velocity and feathery touch it.

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>He's just so gifted. And the thing is he's not

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>a stiff either. He can run around back there, he

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:48.399
<v Speaker 1>extends creates. I mean he is the goat. I mean

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady's the goat because of the number of years

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>on all. But I'm talking about from a physical standpoint.

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>If the Good Lord said I'm creating this the specimen

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>here to show people how a quarterback should be able

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:05.359
<v Speaker 1>to throw a football, oh, Aaron Rodgers would be the guy.

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was amusing when I asked Zach Taylor

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>today during that time period where it was unclear whether

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>he's going to come back to Green Bay or not,

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>did you allow yourself to hope? And he was like, yeah,

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>he was honest, he was hoping that a week five,

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers was no longer Remember the Green Bay Packers. Yeah,

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>and Dan, I think the only thing I can attribute

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>green Bay losing thirty eight to three to New Orleans

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 1>is because of all that stuff that went on with

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers. I mean it was it was all too disheveled. Still,

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, there were too many uneven feelings about things,

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>and you know, amongst even teammates, you know, Aaron in

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.439
<v Speaker 1>the front office. I'm not sure about the coaching stuff.

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure about how the players all, but the

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 1>whole atmosphere was, you know, there was there was too

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>much poison that needed to be spit out. It too,

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>it was too toxic. But they got through it, and

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:02.800
<v Speaker 1>he knew it. I mean, La Fleur obviously was disgusted.

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm disgusted, and Aaron Rodgers, I'm not gonna

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 1>throw everybody under the bus. We had a bad game.

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not giving up in this group. I

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>think he knew, based on everything that he was observing

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 1>body language and interaction between teammates and stuff, that they

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>weren't quite ready yet to take anybody on. But boy,

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 1>they've they've gotten there quickly, and he certainly has, having

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 1>lost since they've been averaging thirty points a game since.

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:29.359
<v Speaker 1>So they're thirteen and three each of the last two years,

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 1>made it to the NFC Championship Game and lost each

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>of the last two years, once at home, once on

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 1>the road. It's not just Aaron Rodgers, obviously. What are

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the other key strengths of this Green Bay team? Well,

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.879
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, Dan, they have two two tremendous workhorses.

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>As such, Davante Adams leads the NFL and catches with

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>thirty one and he's fifth in yards generated. And he

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 1>is he's special. I mean, he's a he's a gifted receiver.

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>And the way he beats press coverage, the way he

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>breaks routes at the top of the route, he's just

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.720
<v Speaker 1>he's a phenomenal route runner, just an extremely gifted player.

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 1>And the other guy is Aaron Jones, not only running

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the football, but Aaron Jones. It goes in terms of

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>overall targets, the wide receiver group is first running backs

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>or second tight ends or third, and the running back

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>that gets targeted the most and is the most productive

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>is Jones. I mean he's second to Adams with thirteen

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.320
<v Speaker 1>catches and he's got three touchdown catches. And Jones is

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:32.279
<v Speaker 1>also rushed for two touchdowns, so he's a touchdown maker

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 1>for him. And I think that's going to be a

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 1>big factor in this football game. Is the yak and rack,

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, yards after catch, run after catch. If Aaron Rodgers,

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 1>if he can get Jones on a linebacker, and we've

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>seen Joe Burrow hit people in stride and not make

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>him have to work for the football, you know, stop

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:55.879
<v Speaker 1>reach back or whatever, and they have to start up again.

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Just hit him in full stride. Aaron Rodgers can do

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 1>that in spades. He hits Aaron Jones on the go

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 1>in space. I think who's going to be the best tacklers?

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Which linebacker group? We have a young core of linebackers

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 1>that have upgraded that position. When they get matched up

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>on Aaron Jones, it's gonna be big. It's an extension

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:18.359
<v Speaker 1>of the running game. You're getting the ball out, it's

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>like a long lateral to a great back in space.

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>And who's going to be able to tackle and make place?

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that's going to be a big factor in

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the football game. And on the flip side too, I

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>think that you know, Bengals running backs can do the

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>same thing on linebackers. Who's gonna who's gonna win that

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>particular matchup Aaron Aaron Jones is He's very, very talented though.

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 1>He's about as good at it as as you can

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>as you can get really so I think that's going

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>to be a massive factor in the football game. And yeah,

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 1>who's going to make Who's going to minimize the explosive

0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 1>and part And that's a big part of the explosive

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 1>because you know, a fifty yard play doesn't always have

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.439
<v Speaker 1>to be forty eight yards in the air. It could

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>be a you know, seven yard checkdown, make a guy

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>missing off to the races for another forty So those

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 1>are those are equally explosive. I think tackling in space

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:20.280
<v Speaker 1>when you get matchups that the offense feels are favorable,

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, a fleet, elusive running back in space on

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker, how much damage will be done? I am

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>really excited about this game. If the Bengals can go

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:32.879
<v Speaker 1>to go toe to toe with the Packers, even if

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 1>they don't win, I think they can show that they're

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>a team that can remain in the hunt until the

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 1>latter portion of the season. Yeah. And it's interesting, you

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:46.399
<v Speaker 1>know this is these numbers don't mean anything because none

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>of the very few of these players were involved in

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>any of these. But the last three matchups here in

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati when Green Bay has come to Cincinnati has been

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:57.399
<v Speaker 1>a multiple years between each one of them, but it's been,

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, a touchdown or less scenario, and Rodgers was

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback the last time, and then Terence Newman something

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 1>like that. An unscripted score, a defensive score off fumble recovery.

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what you have to have to beat

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the Green Bay Packers, you know, and you know, I

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 1>think turnovers are going to be massive in this football game.

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:22.800
<v Speaker 1>You can't give Aaron Rodgers extra possessions. You have to

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>take possessions away from him if you possibly can, and

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 1>give more to Joe Burrow. You don't want to go

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>out in that game saying Joe Burrow and the Bengals

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:34.320
<v Speaker 1>offense only had eight opportunities and Aaron Rodgers and the

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Packers offense had ten. No can do And maybe it's

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>fourth down again, I mean the Bengals. To me, it's

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 1>it's it's equivalent if the drive that doesn't end with

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 1>the kick click. We keep talking about a drive that

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't end with an extra point field goal, U punt.

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 1>That's that's big. That's almost equivalent to a turnover. It is.

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>It's like fumbling at the line of scrimmage and the

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>other team recovers it. It's just like a turnover. So

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals have done a pretty good job in that

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>area too, obviously, that was a huge factor in their

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 1>last victory. But fourth down the opponent they've had four

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 1>possessions that have ended without a kick. The opponents three

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>for seven on fourth down. So the Bengals don't have

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>a ton of takeaways. I mean, they've only taken it

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>away four times, but they have four additional stops of

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>possessions end of possessions without a kick. So in my mind,

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's closer to you're talking about eight times.

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>You know you've put your offense in better position and

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:34.800
<v Speaker 1>with the momentum, I think I think it's a big factor.

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Final thing, we did a show the day after the

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville game and we discussed urban Meyer's decision to go

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:44.319
<v Speaker 1>for it on fourth and one or fourth and goal

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 1>from the one obviously didn't work late in the second

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 1>quarter of that game. You came down on the side

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.879
<v Speaker 1>of bad decision by urban Meyer. I said, I still

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 1>think it was a good decision, even though the result

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:58.320
<v Speaker 1>was bad. Here's my question. You thought it was a

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>bad decision. Was that urban Meyer's worst decision that weekend?

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I think one might have led to the other. I

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>think it was Oh my gosh, I blew that. I'm

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to go. I'm gonna have to go chill

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I'm gonna let my hair down and

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 1>let everything down. My yeah, I mean I can see

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I can see why he did it because the defense

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>is pitching a shout out. You know, It's like, okay,

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, my defense is playing so well. You know,

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:30.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put them. I can

0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>see why he went for it. But the defense is

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 1>playing so well, I'd go up by three scores, you know,

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. The bottom line is what he did

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>after that decision, the decision, after the decision, that's they

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>should do. ESPN should do a documentary on that decision,

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.840
<v Speaker 1>not the Lebron James decision. Should do a documentary on

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the urban Meyer decision that led to the decision that

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>led to dead man walking, that led to when is

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 1>he going to get fired? There's odds on where he's

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>going to have his next coaching job, odds on who's

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be the next head coach with the Jacksonville Jaguars.

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>What a mess down there. And I do know that

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Bengals defensive coach Mark Duffner had an opportunity. He lives

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 1>in Jacksonville, head coached in Jacksonville prior could have been

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:20.879
<v Speaker 1>the linebacker coach at Jacksonville. Thank goodness, Mark Dufter came

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>to Cincinnati. It is not part of that knifemare down there,

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 1>because that's exactly what it is right now. It is

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 1>a nightmare down there. It is a cess pool. Right now,

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>things appear to be trending up for the Bengals where

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 1>injuries are concerned. Three guys that miss the Jacksonville game,

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Jesse Bates, Te Higgins and chitabe O Wooje all practiced

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, and Ricardo Allen was also cleared to practice

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>after missing three games with a hand injury. Joe Mixon

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't practice after twisting his ankle versus the Jags, but

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 1>he's considered day to day and hasn't been ruled out

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 1>for Sunday. The picture is not as rosie for the

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:02.439
<v Speaker 1>Packers who have significant injury problems. That's where we begin

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 1>our know the faux segment. But Pete Doherty from the

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Press Gazette, he joined lapping Me this week

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 1>on the Bengals Game Plan show. Yeah, there's they've been

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.399
<v Speaker 1>hit really hard the last two years. They have had

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>great injury luck. I mean that's one of the things

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that has helped them get to these two championship games.

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Was and put up those thirteen and three records. Was

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:27.240
<v Speaker 1>they were really healthy. And they did lose Box Try

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 1>right at the end of last year. And he's still

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 1>on pupie, so they don't have him, but they hit

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:35.800
<v Speaker 1>they Darius Smith missed, you know, he's our best rusher

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 1>by fire, and he missed all but one day at camp.

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 1>He played like eighteen snaps or so in the first game,

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.279
<v Speaker 1>and then the headback surgery last week. He's probably done

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:50.400
<v Speaker 1>for the year. He's a really important player. M basically

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 1>the guy that can't afford to loses Rodgers. After that,

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:55.720
<v Speaker 1>it's Zadarius Smith and Alexander And I just can't imagine

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:58.879
<v Speaker 1>Alexander is going to play this week and they're still

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the side and what to do when they're trying to

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 1>avoid surgery, which tells you because he's a shoulder injury,

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 1>which tells you that this isn't just going to be

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks thing. He's probably gonna be out

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 1>for a little while even if he doesn't have the surgery.

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 1>So um, they're gonna have to learn to play without

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.680
<v Speaker 1>their two most important and win without their two most

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>important defensive players for a while here. Yeah, that's a

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that's a significant blow offensively. I guess my first question is,

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>you know the effect the Aaron Rodgers effect when you

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 1>know all that went on, Willy come to camp? Will

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 1>he not? Willy? Is he going to retire? Well? And

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>that certainly's not going to happen. But the whole thing

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.800
<v Speaker 1>is that the reason a thirty eight to three football

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>game against the New Orleans Saints took place. I mean,

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 1>were the guy's heads just in bad spots and Aaron Rodgers,

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, he basically coached. Laflor said that was embarrassing,

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and Aaron Rodgers like, not embarrassing. We just didn't play well.

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be fine, you know, just like the R. E. L.

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 1>A X deal. And he comes out and they went

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 1>three football games, averaging over thirty points a game. Was

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<v Speaker 1>it the Aaron Rodgers hangover the reason for the New

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Orleans debacle or what do you think the reason was?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I wouldn't be surprised if that were part

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 1>of it. I personally think the bigger thing was, you know,

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 1>he had a really good camp. They brought back, they

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>did all these contract restructures to bring everybody back, you know,

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 1>They came into this feeling like they've got as good

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 1>a shout at the Super Bowl as anybody, And I

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 1>think they went into that New Orleans game thinking they're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to show up and do what they do,

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and you know, New Orleans is just you know, New

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Orleans was playing in Jacksonville, they were training in Houston.

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think they just thought they were going

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 1>to walk all over those guys and they ran into

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 1>a really really good coach and just got crushed. And

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that was a real eye opener for him

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 1>that they can't just show up and win games. So

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that was the bigger factor. But I don't

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 1>doubt that some of the Rodgers stuff. Who knows what

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 1>effects that has guys on guy's mentality. Like I said,

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Rogers looked really good in camp. I mean, he played

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 1>well as well in this camp as he's had in

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:12.400
<v Speaker 1>any camp. Not same with his best, but it was

0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:15.880
<v Speaker 1>as good as any So, you know, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest part of it was they just got really really

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:21.320
<v Speaker 1>full of themselves. And they still haven't played great, but

0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 1>they've improved each week and they're winning without Zadarius Smith

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:28.239
<v Speaker 1>and now they have a real tough test against them

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 1>against you know, a Cincinnati team with a good young

0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 1>quarterback that's put up a lot of points and yards

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 1>early in the season. Pete Doherty is our guest from

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the Green Bay Press Gazette. I feel like I've got

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:42.320
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good grasp, Pete on the strengths of the

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Packers. Obviously Aaron Rodgers first and foremost, but

0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams and Aaron Jones, etc. What do you consider

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 1>to be their biggest question mark right now? Well, there's

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:55.480
<v Speaker 1>a couple of them. Even you know, before all the injuries.

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Their d line is not real talented. Kenny Clark is

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:01.239
<v Speaker 1>a very good player, but after him, they just don't

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of talent there. So I think that

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:06.759
<v Speaker 1>could be that was an issue early and they played

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:08.759
<v Speaker 1>really well against the forty nine ers and not bad

0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:10.400
<v Speaker 1>last week. But I still think it's going to be

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 1>an issue as the season goes on and they may

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:16.800
<v Speaker 1>need to go get help there. Their linebacker inside linebacker

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 1>position to Andre Campbell's pretty good, but after that, if

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:22.360
<v Speaker 1>they go with two of the two inside guys like

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:26.959
<v Speaker 1>in their nickel, it's not so hot. And then Alexander

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 1>injury is just devastating for their defense because he's a

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.880
<v Speaker 1>really good corner and you know, those guys are just

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 1>like it, just as important as pass rushers. And behind him,

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:41.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're not so great either. Their first round pick,

0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Eric Stokes has really improved a lot and since the

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:47.480
<v Speaker 1>started camp, and he's their next best corner. And then

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 1>there there's just not a ton of ability after that either.

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:55.279
<v Speaker 1>So there's the domino effect of a losing Alexander is

0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:57.959
<v Speaker 1>big two. So they they've got a lot of weak,

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 1>weakish points on their on defense. What about the offensive line, Pete,

0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:06.240
<v Speaker 1>You've got a couple of rookies, you know at center

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and right guard. Billy Turner, I think is you know,

0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:12.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Miami Dolphins waived him, but he's he's

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:16.240
<v Speaker 1>a battler and he's he's had a very good NFL

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>career in terms of years service. Jenkins with the ankle injury,

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:22.239
<v Speaker 1>how about Jenkins? Will he be able to go? And

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 1>looking at initially looking at some tape, I thought Runyon

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 1>looked like maybe he was playing at the best level.

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe I didn't see enough tape. But

0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 1>what's the offensive line looking like? So Jenkins, he's missed

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:39.359
<v Speaker 1>the last two games with the ankle, and he did

0:50:39.440 --> 0:50:42.920
<v Speaker 1>not practice today. He's a vet, so they'll give him

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:45.239
<v Speaker 1>all week, but the smart money says he won't play

0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>again this week either. Um, they're young line. They got

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 1>a rookiet center, Josh Meyers. They got a rookie at guard,

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:55.800
<v Speaker 1>right guard, Roy s Newman. Both of those guys have

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.759
<v Speaker 1>been fine. Their line has played fine. It's it's not

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.399
<v Speaker 1>an issue at all. I'm sure those guys are making

0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 1>mistakes as rookies that they won't make two years from now,

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 1>but they both have ability and they're both doing just fine.

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 1>So their their line has been okay. It hasn't been

0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:13.279
<v Speaker 1>a big issue. It'll get better when Bak comes back

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and Jenkins can move to left guard. And you know,

0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:19.480
<v Speaker 1>if if Jenkins doesn't play, Yosh Niman will be their

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:21.440
<v Speaker 1>left tackle. And I'm sure you've never heard of them,

0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:24.799
<v Speaker 1>and he's They got to help him some, but he's

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:27.279
<v Speaker 1>done okay the last two weeks. In Turner, you know,

0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 1>they paid him a lot of money. He's averaging seven

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 1>million bucks a year. They signed him as a free

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:34.120
<v Speaker 1>agent a couple of years ago, and they hible were

0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:37.640
<v Speaker 1>paid to get him. But you know, he's he's improved

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:39.839
<v Speaker 1>even in his time here, and he played a good game.

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:42.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, he basically you know, Watt had two sacks,

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 1>but they were both garbage sacks. One was where he

0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:47.399
<v Speaker 1>tripped Rogers with his foot and the other one where

0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:50.399
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers ran around and slid and Watt was the nearest guy,

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:54.440
<v Speaker 1>so he got he got the sack. But but you know,

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Turner went against him almost the entire game and did

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a really nice job against him. So their lines fine,

0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:03.560
<v Speaker 1>it's probably not quite as good as last year, but

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:04.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe by the end of the year will be. They

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:08.200
<v Speaker 1>got ability there, and it's fine. Um, it's you know,

0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:10.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not the reason for any struggles they're having. That's

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 1>not the reason. A couple more questions for Pete Doherty

0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:18.440
<v Speaker 1>from the Green Bay Press Gazette. I'm amazed by Davante Adams.

0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:21.560
<v Speaker 1>He's not that big, he's six one, not that fast

0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:24.640
<v Speaker 1>rant of four or five six at the combine. But

0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:26.720
<v Speaker 1>he might be the best wide receiver in the NFL.

0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Why is he so incredibly good? Yeah, and all that

0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:34.319
<v Speaker 1>stuff is true and made you wonder, But he's guess,

0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:40.759
<v Speaker 1>got ridiculous body control. He's really strong, he's really good

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:44.320
<v Speaker 1>at His cuts are so sharp and he can stop

0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and cut just on a dime, like like nobody else

0:52:49.040 --> 0:52:51.360
<v Speaker 1>in the league maybe except for the really small guys.

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:53.960
<v Speaker 1>So he's got a little bit of size and he

0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 1>plays like a little guy that way. He can sky,

0:52:57.120 --> 0:52:59.759
<v Speaker 1>he can jump, and he's um. He wants to be great,

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and he's really dedicated to his craft and his chemistry

0:53:04.000 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 1>with with Rogers has is just you know, there was

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:09.479
<v Speaker 1>a couple of throws the other day last week against

0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the Steelers where it was just like, you know, they're

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:13.480
<v Speaker 1>back shoulder throws and it's like there's no defending that.

0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't care who's out there on him.

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 1>So that the timing playing with a great quarterback helps too.

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 1>But he's just he's just got a great mix of

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:25.240
<v Speaker 1>talent and want to and intelligence and all that stuff.

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor and Matt Lafleur were on the same coaching staff.

0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor was effusive in his praise of Matt Lafleur.

0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Has Matt Lafleur had any comments about Zach Taylor during

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the course of the week at this stage, you know,

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that he was asked about him on Monday,

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and I did not see today's press conference, so I'm

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:49.840
<v Speaker 1>not sure if he was asked, but they do go

0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 1>back and I know there it sounds like I know

0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:54.799
<v Speaker 1>I saw a quote from him somewhere, so that must

0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:57.440
<v Speaker 1>have been today where you know he's still he considers

0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Taylor a very good friend of his, and a lot

0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 1>of that in this league right now with Nick Bay

0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and Shanahan and him and the guy down at White

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:12.719
<v Speaker 1>down in Tennessee. So we're not Tennessee Atlanta, so there's

0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:14.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys off of that, you know, all

0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 1>that staffs that work together and they're all running the

0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:21.160
<v Speaker 1>same system and it's spreading like wildfire that the league

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 1>seems like every week they're playing somebody that La Floor

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:26.919
<v Speaker 1>used to coach with. Thanks to Pete Doherty. And here's

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