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Speaker 1: finish to it. Kansas City holds on to beat Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Trailed at half seventeen to thirteen, come back to win

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Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty four, a game in which both

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Speaker 1: teams made a lot of mistakes. John Middlecoff, former NFL scout,

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Speaker 1: hosts a podcast on the volume three and Out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is when you get into these classic

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Speaker 1: you know, all E. Fraser matchups. You know, you see

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Speaker 1: them multiple times. People get so nervous and so anxious.

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Speaker 1: They want to blame the refs, and there was some

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Speaker 1: stuff today with the officiating, But I also think both

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Speaker 1: teams made a ton of mistakes. I mean, McCole Hardman,

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Speaker 1: then Buffalo regains it. So I mean in the end,

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Speaker 1: I looked at Buffalo in the first half only up four,

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Speaker 1: despite the fact they'd have double the time of possession,

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Speaker 1: double the first downs, two hundred and thirty five yards,

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Speaker 1: and they lead seventeen to thirteen this game. Maybe I'm

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Speaker 1: wrong on this. It felt like Buffalo had their chances,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Buffalo goes up into halftime seventeen thirteen,

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Speaker 2: they go right down, and then it's twenty to seventeen,

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Speaker 2: and you felt like, you know, the Bills are gonna

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Speaker 2: have to make just a stupid amount of plays to

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Speaker 2: win this game because they're gonna have to make extra

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Speaker 2: plays because the Chiefs have their number. And they did.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Josh Allen on that final drive before the

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Speaker 2: kicker missed multiple big third downs, multiple plays with his legs.

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Speaker 2: I mean this another time when he played really well.

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Speaker 2: I don't exactly know what his final box score was,

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Speaker 2: How many times did he make big throws down the field?

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe they would have lost in overtime, maybe

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Speaker 1: Well, and also I thought if Buffalo won, they were

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Speaker 1: Now Tony didn't play today, right, so, but they have

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Speaker 2: You feel that, like, where are their impact players beside?

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Speaker 2: Like you said, they're built like a basketball team right now,

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Speaker 2: It really well, you're playing a team that's offenses the

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Speaker 2: entire season has struggled, like you just punt and I

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Speaker 2: it's hard to shake.

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Speaker 1: Well, and the other thing is, and I know I've

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Speaker 1: been on this ad nauseum. Hardbaugh's not your classic defensive

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Speaker 1: done secondary, special teams. So here, this part of this

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Speaker 1: Andy's been able to fix problems faster offensively, the O line,

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Speaker 1: All these teams. Once you pay the quarterback John, You've

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Speaker 1: offensive side. I think this is a flawed Kansas City team,

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Speaker 1: But again, today you got guys that didn't make plays

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Speaker 2: I think there's something to be said about the championship culture.

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Speaker 2: I mean, about the thing that you truly can't quantify.

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Speaker 2: It was on full display today. Right. Travis Kelcey to me,

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Speaker 2: has been a shell of his greatness this season. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what did he do today? Made some big plays, multiple

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Speaker 2: huge touchdowns. The other thing, when you have an offensive

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Speaker 2: of guys. So what happened? Their young wide receiver Rice

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Speaker 2: got better and better? Valdaz Scantling. They don't just throw

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Speaker 2: The defensive culture, right, he goes back to Spags a

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago. How well does that team tackle?

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Speaker 2: I mean they got a lot of ram them guys

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Speaker 2: they don't hang their head. That was a team. We've

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Speaker 2: seen them forever win these games at home now back

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Speaker 2: think this is a mirror image. They're different. But of

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Speaker 2: those Patriot teams, you just could never count out. You're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Their other guys are just gonna make the Bills truly believe,

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Speaker 2: At different points, how could they? They've never won this

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Speaker 2: And that that to me, like was the difference in

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Speaker 1: No, it's true too, because if you go back to

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Speaker 1: He goes, everyone had a different personality, everyone had a

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Speaker 1: But I do think that Andy Reid has come to

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Speaker 1: give him opportunities because I think they're sort of limited.

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Speaker 1: That's done. I mean, you can see his reaction on

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Speaker 1: But I think you know, it's just like you said,

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Speaker 1: I think there are opportunities to beat certain dynasties, and

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Speaker 2: I but isn't that why they are the dynasty Colin? Like?

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Speaker 2: Isn't that why like that happened to the Patriots. They

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Speaker 2: They're built to go into Baltimore and win. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: I truly believe, Like is Baltimore. If this game is

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Speaker 2: they're playing, the injuries they've had. They lose their star

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Speaker 2: I do think it's gonna be hard. It would be

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Speaker 2: They got two first round picks and Jared Goff. Think

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Speaker 2: Brands the safety, their second round pick from Alabama, fantastic.

429
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 2: He makes tackles left and right. This team is a

430
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 2: corner away from being a legit Super Bowl contender next year,

431
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 2: and honestly, like the way the Niners look, I wouldn't

432
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 2: just count them out now. They historically have rattled Jared

433
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,959
Speaker 2: Goff because when you know, if you have a mobile

434
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 2: quarterback Jordan Love, you don't even need to be Lamar Jackson.

435
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 2: You give them a little trouble, but when you sit

436
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 2: in the pocket, the Cousins, the daksh definitely golf. I

437
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 2: mean historically on the Rams, they destroyed them. Now, this

438
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 2: Niners defensive line is not playing as well as a

439
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 2: has in years past because Chase Young is just not

440
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: that good, and Bosa you know there he's getting double teamed,

441
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 2: and the other guys are just kind of okay. Now

442
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 2: the rest of their defense is okay, right, Their linebackers

443
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 2: are good, they have some good dbs, but their defensive

444
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 2: line is nowhere near what it once was. It actually

445
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 2: is much closer to this Lions group that has Hutchinson

446
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: a bunch of other random guys. Then, I think the

447
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 2: way that it's perceived of, oh, the Niners the best

448
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,959
Speaker 2: defensive line we've ever seen. They got some names, but

449
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 2: they are not playing like that for any by any means.

450
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 2: So I think most people are going to say this Chiefs,

451
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 2: you know, Ravens game has a chance to be a

452
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 2: big classic. It's like, oh, the Lions, you know their

453
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: run is going to come to an ni. Yeah, the

454
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 2: Niners better pick pick it up a little bit because

455
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: they did not look very good on Saturday night.

456
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Speaker 1: No, And you know, it was really interesting when I

457
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: went back, and let's talk San Francisco green Bay here,

458
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: because if you go statistically, it was an incredibly close game.

459
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: The time of possession was even five point three yards

460
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: of play for green Bay five point six for San Francisco.

461
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: You had two great running backs, two offensive coaches, two

462
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks. The difference is Jordan Love had a couple

463
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: of picks and pretty was cleaner. But look, my first takeaway, I.

464
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: Mean, balls are flying all over the place. You could

465
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 2: have thrown about three or four.

466
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and I think that's the reality

467
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: of Jordan Love. He's erratic, but he's really good. My

468
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: first takeaway on this game is, holy shit, if Aaron

469
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: Rodgers would have just not audibled out of Matt Lafleur's offense,

470
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: the air. Thing is crazy about this is that Aaron

471
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 1: knew how good Aaron Jones was. He's a stud, he's

472
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: not McCaffrey, but in an argument, is the second best

473
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: back in the league. And you know how good Lafleur

474
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: is and the old line is and watching in Romeo Dobbs,

475
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: Now he didn't know Aaron wouldn't know they would draft

476
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: two tight ends. Musgraves really talented, but Aaron left that

477
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: and kind of got his way out of there. I'm

478
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: watching them today and I'm like, you could make an

479
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: argument by next year if Jordan Love just cleans up

480
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: some of his erratic play, this is going to be

481
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: a six year run, four to six year run of

482
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: NFC championship level players, right.

483
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: One thing I wrote down is, you know we and

484
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: I'm guilty of this. We talk so much about Kyle

485
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: and McVeigh, those two guys head and shoulders as the

486
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: young crew. I think we gotta throw Matt Lafleur in

487
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: that group. I mean what he did, he had that

488
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 2: team show up and they were kicking the Niners. Ass.

489
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: I don't care. He coached Shanahan oh all night long.

490
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: I mean, all the Niners got that. It's one of

491
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: the luckier wins I can remember. I mean, they've had

492
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: some pressive wins. That was an all time lucky win.

493
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: And that's I had. Multiple people in the NFL texted

494
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 2: me this morning like I can't even imagine being on

495
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: the packer staff waking up this morning. I mean, you

496
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 2: had it. You didn't have him on the ropes. You

497
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 2: had them beat and Lafloor deserves He's He's everything you want, right.

498
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: He is a good head coach. Clearly the guys like him.

499
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: He is the offensive play caller, and now he's proven

500
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: he can get along with an absolute superstar. Aaron really

501
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: liked him, and now he can also develop a young

502
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 2: guy that we had never seen. Like what else can

503
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 2: you ask out of a coach? So Green Bay looks

504
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 2: like they have struck oil. I had some question marks

505
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: just because you know he inherited Aaron Rodgers will see. Well,

506
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: now you see what he's doing with all these young players.

507
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: They go on the road to San Francisco. We saw

508
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,959
Speaker 2: what he did two weeks ago to the Cowboys. I mean,

509
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: beat the shit out of him. What a night. I

510
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: know there's no moral victories in the National Football League,

511
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: but what a night for Lafloor. I mean, seriously, I

512
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: mean to have that team on the brink that they

513
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 2: were a ten point underdog against a team that every

514
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 2: single human and their mother pick to win that game.

515
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: That was also john incredible effort. What I said before

516
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: the Dallas and San Francisco games is I hope Rock

517
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: pretty and DAK can play from behind, they take leads.

518
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: I don't think they've turned the ball over in the

519
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: first quarter all season. So again, this was the frustration

520
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 2: with sometimes with Aaron that he would and Greg Cosell

521
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: said this for years, like there's made plays, there's successful plays,

522
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 2: and Nara's going to kind of blow some of those off.

523
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 2: Is that what they're doing in their first quarter is

524
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: it's scripted plays. Matt's like, here, run the first eight.

525
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: They take leads. The DAK did not react well to it.

526
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: But I mean for the first half, I was sitting

527
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: there watching thinking.

528
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: Green Bay has young talent, San Francisco old talent. Are

529
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: we seeing like a tipping point moment that San Francisco's

530
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: old talent never gets a ring because I'm telling you,

531
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: for big chunks in that game, I'm like, no, Greenpay

532
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: can't win this game. They're not They're too young. At halftime,

533
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: I really thought Green Bay was a better team.

534
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: One major issue that really came to light and we

535
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: talked about this last week based on the Strauss article

536
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: about the inclement weather, the AFC teams different than the

537
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: NFC that doesn't really have a lot of weather. Well,

538
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: while it was sixty degrees. It was raining. Pretty can't

539
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: grip the ball in the rain. He made Cleveland, he

540
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: couldn't grip the ball this game. He couldn't grip the ball.

541
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: He came out with the glove. He even said I

542
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: was a little uncomfortable. He immediately took it off. He could.

543
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: There was a play where he has the ball dropping back,

544
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: going to his towel to dry out. He is not comfortable.

545
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: And you know, he doesn't have big hands, but neither

546
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: does Mahomes, but clearly he's comfortable in it. Pretty is

547
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: not comfortable in inclement weather. Now he's lucky he plays

548
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: in Santa Clara. Ninety nine percent of the games they're

549
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: going to be good weather games. But if you do

550
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: get weather, yes you almost got a short the forty

551
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: nine ers, because he's now proven a couple times not

552
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: intrrential downpours, just a light Cleveland was raining. This game

553
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: was raining. This wasn't like sleep or snow or a

554
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 2: driving rainstorm. It was just bare wet and he could

555
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: not grip the ball. And their offense, Kyle had a

556
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: weird game. You know, I'd say typically he is very

557
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 2: very He's one of those guys, right, like all these

558
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: coaches that spend ninety one hundred hours during the week

559
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: cat together a game plan and in his mind, his

560
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: confidence and he should be my game plan is going

561
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: to dominate, and most of the time it does. But

562
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: he's not king of doing the Belichick. Well, this isn't

563
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 2: working a quarter in I'm scrapping everything and I'm checking right.

564
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to do that, And yesterday he came

565
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: into this game spreading him out. Well, Kyle, your quarterback

566
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: can't grip the football. You have Christian McCaffery, who's the

567
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: best running back in the NFL. They're pounding you on

568
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: the in the run game, we just run the ball,

569
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: slow down, settle down the game. But he kept spreading

570
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: it out, which is honestly the antithesis of what he

571
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: stands for and does. It was a bizarre game, and

572
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: they got lucky some of the turnovers, and their defense

573
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: kind of had held some red zone situations, held in

574
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: the field goals, but he just wouldn't pivot off the pass.

575
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: This has always been my knock on shit, and I

576
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: think he's great. Whereas Lafleur McVeigh. Of all those young guys,

577
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: McVay is the culture center. He's the great culture coach,

578
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: gets the most out of everybody. Shanahan is the scheme master,

579
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: and then Lafleur is a little of both. But Shanahan

580
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: is really really tied and loyal to his game plan.

581
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: That's why.

582
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: It is that playshet is his, that's his baby. And

583
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: when it does, you know, they don't do well when

584
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: they trail, No, they don't. He is just somebody that

585
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: believes in his playsheet. And so there was some record.

586
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: I think it was finally broken that they couldn't win

587
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: a game when they trailed late in the game. I

588
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: forget what the number one.

589
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: It was like seven points heading into the fourth core.

590
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: He was owned thirty eight and technically they kicked the

591
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: field goal the first play the fourth corner. But yeah,

592
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: it technically broke the record.

593
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: But I think to your point, was he My takeaway

594
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: was he he? When I watched San Francisco, like, there's

595
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: no rhythm to this offense because every time they should

596
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: have run, they threw perty couldn't grip the I mean

597
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: one time, pretty a ball out in a flat he

598
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: short hopped it. It wasn't even close.

599
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: Now it was crazy and to me, football like in

600
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: our industry. It's so easy what we do now, like

601
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: to pivot. Something works, try it the internet, everything digital.

602
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: If it doesn't work, you pivot, you change, try something new.

603
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: That's coaching, right. If something's working, stay with it. If

604
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: it's not, you change. That's what all the best coaches do.

605
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: And he was just so tied to that game plan

606
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: of spreading them out, but his quarterback just could not

607
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: hold on to the football. And honestly, that would have

608
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: been a game. If they lost, it would have been

609
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: really hard to shake, and it would have put been

610
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: a ton of pressure on the party situation. And like

611
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: you said, with Kyle, in a weird way, you know,

612
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: when you think now with even McVeigh, forever with Goth,

613
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: McVeigh was the star of the team. But now with Stafford,

614
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: you know, Stafford is equal, you know, in a weird way,

615
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: Kyle is kind of the star of the offense. Yes, yeah,

616
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: and it sometimes when everything's going well, everyone else gets

617
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: a share in it. But when it's not, it's like

618
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: he kind of hoards these ideas. Deebo gets injured, they

619
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: clearly had a bunch of plays for him, and he

620
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: can't just like, okay, we're not going to do this.

621
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: He's handing, He's handing balls to their third wide receiver

622
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: in the backfield. It was crazy. You know, Luckily they

623
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: have enough talents. Jordan Love was young and threw the

624
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: ball to the other team. But holy moly.

625
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: You know the and I was thinking about this is that.

626
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: Think about the quarterbacks that are left mahomes Josh Allen

627
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: number one pick, Jared Goff and Brock Purty. And as

628
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: I was watching that game and they pull out the wind,

629
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny because Brock had a nice final drive,

630
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: all schemed up by Kyle, and you deserve credit for that.

631
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 1: He didn't shrink.

632
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: He's mentally tough, like that's not Brock Purty's problems. Memory toughness.

633
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: Kyle loves that.

634
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, obviously you don't walk into that

635
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: locker room with Hall of famers and own the locker

636
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: room so exactly. And Sam Darnold acknowledging that he is

637
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: cognitively the fastest thinker he's ever and that's so is Kyle.

638
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: So it works. But you've got to be honest if

639
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: you watch that game and don't see the limitations have

640
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: brought Purty going forward, like you know the great coaches.

641
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: Sean Payton has said the best weeks of coaching are

642
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: when you play like crap and win. You can just

643
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: coach the hell out of them. San Francis, John Lynch

644
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: and Shanahan have to have a private conversation and it's

645
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: like we're kind of limbed. I mean again, here Burrow's

646
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: coming back. And by the way, you may have a

647
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and a Drake may go to the NFC

648
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray for a whole season. Stafford's coming back. I

649
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: don't know, Jordan loves getting better. When I watched that game,

650
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: even after they won, I thought it kind of changes

651
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: how I look at San Francisco. If sand Fridgisco beats Detroit,

652
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: and I'm with you, I think it's a go either

653
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: way game. I think it's it's it's very competitive game.

654
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: And IMS run defense is not good right now, and

655
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: those two running backs for Detroit look like the horses.

656
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: And they're not getting the pass rush, so they can't.

657
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: With ufunga and average corners, you can beat that. I mean,

658
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: let's be honest, most of the secondary is left in

659
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: this league. They're not very good. No, I mean, I

660
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: mean Buffalo's you could gash. Detroit'sn't very good. I don't

661
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: think the Niners is. But when the Niners had a

662
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: great pass rush, like a prime example is the Eagles

663
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: last year, they had a great pass rush, so it

664
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: kind of masks their deficiencies in the back end. Well,

665
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: San Francisco's pass rush isn't the same. It's a very

666
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: average secondary, and I think Goff's gonna have some success

667
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: with it. But I watched pretty and I'm like, you

668
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: can't win with shootouts here if it's inclement weather. I mean,

669
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: there's some limitations with him.

670
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, he's just a jackal and Hyde. When

671
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: you put with if it's going to rain, if you

672
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: tell me it's raining on Sunday, I would have major

673
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: reservations picking the forty nine ers, you know. And I

674
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: think it gets back to this Lion's team. I think

675
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: there are some parallels to last year's Eagles team. Right.

676
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: They're head coach, great motivator, the guys who were like him,

677
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: and he's got two great coordinators. I mean those two

678
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: guys interviewing everywhere for head coaching jobs. Yes, I mean

679
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator looks like the next Shane Steichen. So

680
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: you're playing a team that has all in all, the

681
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: head man who's just clearly a great leader, and two

682
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: scheme guys, especially their offensive coordinator, that are just in

683
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: the peak of their powers right now. And you get

684
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: a team coming with a ton of momentum. And the

685
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: other thing is a little bit like the Packers. Now

686
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: two weeks in a row. The Lions were favor today,

687
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, they're the Lions.

688
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: You get to play with little house money. You know,

689
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: there's a pressure on the Eagles, the Cowboys and the

690
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. Then let's face it just isn't there

691
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: with the Lions or the Bucks or even the Packers,

692
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: because once they get rid of Rogers, they kind of,

693
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: you know, release that elephant in the room. There's a tightness.

694
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: You feel it with the Niners, and you kind of

695
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: felt today with the Bills too. Now the Niners won,

696
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: the Bills didn't. But it was like anything less than

697
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: making a run here is devastating. We all know it.

698
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: Like no one's running away from the expectations here. Now

699
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: the difference, and this is it's a black and white league.

700
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: Either winner. You don't that the Niners moved on. The

701
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: Bills didn't, so you know, you gotta be careful going

702
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: game to game. Maybe the Niners get a much better effort,

703
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: they get an extra day of rest, but holy moly,

704
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: I mean, if it sprinkles a little bit, I mean,

705
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: that shouldn't be that big of a problem. Should have

706
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: called this the National Football League.

707
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just for the first time ever, you

708
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: know how, There's these moments during the season. John, there

709
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: was a moment I haven't boughten into the Cowboys forever,

710
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: and then they went on this run and I bought

711
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: into them. And then I watched them play Miami and

712
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: I thought they are Miami. It's just more obvious that

713
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,959
Speaker 1: Miami is a little bit of a fake Gucci bag.

714
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: So's Dallas. So's Dallas. And it changed the way I

715
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: thought of them. That Niner game. When I watched them

716
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: play Baltimore, I'm like, Okay, this is you have some

717
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: real I mean, there are just certain moments in a season.

718
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: It's not always a blowout loss. I thought the Rams

719
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: lost to Baltimore, I'm like, oh, Rams are for real,

720
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: this is a real team. But when I watched the

721
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: Niners lose to that Baltimore team that the Rams had played,

722
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: you know close, it took something off the veneer of it.

723
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: And then I watched them yesterday again and I'm like,

724
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: am I over valuing their talent? Like you look at

725
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman names, and I just look at this

726
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: and I think to myself, with Detroit so o line

727
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: and run game and with the lack of pass rush,

728
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: I think I'm getting into the situation with the Niners

729
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: is I'm thinking of the last four years and they're

730
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: just not as good. Everybody's getting the old guys are

731
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: getting older and the young guys aren't quite as good.

732
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: When Christian McCaffrey goes to the bench and they're rubbing out,

733
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: he a Charlie Horse, I'm like, if he's out, they're

734
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: in huge trouble.

735
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: Well, Deebo went out and threw them all off, and

736
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: who knows his status, right, Yeah. I think the Niners

737
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: got to the point and they were doing this because

738
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: they are a really physical team. They started bullying people.

739
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 2: They did to the Eagles, they did to the US

740
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: and then for the first time they got into the

741
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: ring and Mike Tyson Chuck Lydeale hit him right into

742
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: the in the square and the jaw, and it was

743
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: the Ravens, and it rattled him a little bit, and

744
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: they kind of haven't had the same swag since, just

745
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: from a I'm tougher than you when I step in now,

746
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: I don't think yesterday was about like a toughness because

747
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: that was kind of the difference in the game. Their

748
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: toughness kind of kept them in the game. But this

749
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: Detroit team, I'm pretty sure they were the best rush

750
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: defense in the league. They're very hard to run on.

751
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: So think about Kyle. I mean that throws them off

752
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: a little bit if you can't run the ball, so

753
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, as he's spreading it out. Is

754
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: the weather kind of bad now? I think I looked

755
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: at earlier day, it wasn't supposed to rain. But if

756
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: perty is average, you're in major trouble. Now when he's

757
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: major trouble, they still got a used, They got kid

758
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: Old McCaffrey, can make plays, Juwan Jennings, they can still

759
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: score with Detroit. I think it's more likely that we're

760
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: looking at a game maybe both teams are kind of

761
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: approaching thirty kind of a shootout, and that's what I

762
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 2: would kind of expect because I don't think the forty

763
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: nine ers defense right now is stopping much. And clearly

764
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: the Lions, God, they look they just look like they

765
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: got it going on. They really do.

766
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: So I want to talk a little Baltimore Texans. Listen,

767
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: the Texans had eleven penalties, only ten first downs.

768
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: C J.

769
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: Stroud only had twenty two minutes time of possession, So

770
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those. They had a great

771
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: game plan and after about halftime, the game plan only

772
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: works so far against Lamar Jackson. He disengages from the

773
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: game plan, they make alterations at half, and you're it's

774
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: just he's too hard to stop. I think the Texans,

775
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: like green Bay. The green Bay just needs a year

776
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: of seasoning. The Texans need another draft class and another

777
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: free agency class. They need about six more guys, which

778
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: by the way, Baltimore hit on in the last draft.

779
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: Seattle's hit on and he's a quarterback. But you can

780
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: really go.

781
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: Get the Texans. I think the Texans have the most

782
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: cap space this offseason.

783
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they need to go by a couple of players,

784
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 1: and they need depth in the draft and a couple

785
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 1: of frontline starts stars. I think their future is great,

786
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: but I got to tell you when I look and

787
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: I watched Baltimore, because c J. Stroud's a real quarterback.

788
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: Baltimore made GoF Lick horrible. Baltimore beat Matt Stafford, Baltimore

789
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: made c J. Stroud look really small. You start Baltimore

790
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: humiliated Miami two and Mike McDaniel and Kyle Shanahan. If

791
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: you start looking at this schedule, I mean, Baltimore has

792
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: gone into the teeth of brilliant coaches, great run games,

793
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: highly effective, potent offenses, star quarterbacks and made them look

794
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: awful like regularly. If Baltimore Baltimore, it maybe isn't the

795
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: Seahawks team that went to the Super Bowl back to back,

796
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: Remember that team that was so talented.

797
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: Their secondary is not as good as that team, but

798
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: it's not.

799
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: But I got to tell you when I watched them

800
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: that Rokwan Smith move, I had real doubts about you

801
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: put him next to Patrick Queen home run. I am

802
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: watching after this draft and Za Flowers, I'm like, they're

803
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: doing this without Mark Andrews, the tight end who probably

804
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: comes back. This is one of the better rosters.

805
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: I mean.

806
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: And also, it's not just that you have a quarterback

807
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: you have a superstar quarterback with this roster, and I

808
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: mean we could have a John Harbaugh Jim harbaughd National champion,

809
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: super Bowl champ. When I look at this Baltimore team,

810
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: even compared to San Francisco's roster, I think I think

811
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: they're a little twitchier. I think I think they're significantly

812
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: better at quarterback. I think we've undervalued Baltimore because we

813
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: paid so much attention to San Francisco's roster and Mahomes

814
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: and Allen. I think I think Baltimore could beat Kansas

815
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: City badly. I'm just blown away by their physicality, their explosiveness,

816
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: their twitchiness.

817
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, you gotta be careful betting against

818
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: Andy Mahomes. The Raven should win this game, right. They

819
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: think about the Chiefs who depend on Kelsey a lot, Well,

820
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: they got two star linebackers and Kyle Hamilton who are

821
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: made to you know, Negate that player, yep. And then

822
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: they have a defensive line full of massive humans that

823
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: can slow down but Jaco and clearly, I think the

824
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 2: one reason I was hesitant because Okay, let's see Lamar

825
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: do it in that first half. You go, well, Demko

826
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: is one of the best defensive coordinators was thrown them off.

827
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: And then even Lamar said, we went in at halftime,

828
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: we started cussing each other out, and then he settled down.

829
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: He looked exactly like the MVP of the regular season. Okay,

830
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: if he's gonna play like that, to me, they would

831
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 2: be the favorite to win this whole thing right now, because,

832
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: like you said, top to bottom, they can run the ball.

833
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 2: Their quarterback is I mean, I think the best runner

834
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: of the football we've ever seen. Zay Flowers has added

835
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: an element there that is taken area we changed.

836
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: And then they have this other kid eighty they got

837
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago.

838
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, the tight end, who's fantastic.

839
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: And it's just like, oh my god, it's.

840
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: They're so powerful. I think he was, you know, he's

841
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: kind of coming back. But they're kind of hesitant that

842
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 2: they might not even need them. I mean, you could

843
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 2: argue that they don't even need them right now. So

844
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: their defense is just so oh physical that they're what

845
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 2: I think we thought the Niners were early in the season,

846
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: who clearly are not. They hit so violently there, They're

847
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: two linebackers are absolutely everywhere and every The confidence and

848
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: the edginess That's one thing that those teams, like early

849
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: what like fifteen years ago, when Harbaugh and Tomlin got there,

850
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: those two teams, it was like the Ravens and the

851
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: Steelers just looked differently and they carried themselves differently. It's

852
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: why both teams could give this the Patriots some trouble, right,

853
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: and they did that. Some of those Ravens teams beat

854
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: the Patriot team with that Moss era team. And this team,

855
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: you know, is not as famous. There's no Ed Reid

856
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: or Ray Lewis on the team, but they feel like

857
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: they got a similar swag and this quarterback they know

858
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: no one has that. So yeah, I mean, I I

859
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 2: don't know how if they are in the Super Bowl,

860
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: they are not. They definitely be favored against the Lions.

861
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: And I know someone, my guy at the Action Network

862
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: told me they would technically be an underdog based before

863
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: these games against the Niners. I don't see how they

864
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 2: wouldn't favorite agains the Niners they beat.

865
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm this yeah badly. You know, It's funny when they

866
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: went and got Roquan Smith because I remember saying on

867
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: the air on FS one, I'm like, you can't pay

868
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: linebackers this in Chicago. But Chicago didn't have their offense right.

869
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: And you know Baltimore because they know what they are,

870
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: Like all great organizations, they know what they are. They

871
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: went to spend a ton on a linebacker. He's totally

872
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: changed their defense. If you look at the numbers before

873
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: Wilkland Smith got there and now totally changed. We all

874
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: knew he was a great play was a great player

875
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: in Chicago, but they had to fix offense for Justin Field.

876
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: So they couldn't pay a linebacker. They had to see

877
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: if they could get if Justin Fields could play, so

878
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: they had to change their spending. Well, if you looked

879
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: at Baltimore, Baltimore's like, we know who're going to score.

880
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: We scored twenty seven points with Lamar. We've got to

881
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: stop people and nobody can get good corners anymore. So

882
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: I think Baltimore has a little bit of an old

883
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: school feel with dominating, bruising linebackers, kind of a run

884
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: first offense, and kind of a nineteen eighties culture with hardballs.

885
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: It's just a tough physical element.

886
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: Well one thing, you know, I know, you know, I'm

887
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah, who I worked with with the Philly's been

888
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: on the NFL Network forever worked for Ozzie Newsom for

889
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: a long time, and they used to have this thing

890
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: like play like a raven and clearly that meant be

891
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: like tough sob and they have these guys the history

892
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 2: of their franchise, right went from Ozzie Newsom now to DaCosta,

893
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: who is an Ozzie Newsome guy. So the culture had

894
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: never changed. They've always liked think about the wide receivers

895
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 2: they used to go after, like and Kwon Bold and

896
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: Steve Smith think about when they drafted people like what

897
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: you're taking Kyle Hamilton, Well, yeah, that guy is a

898
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: raven right, big, can hit, can cover, And they know exactly,

899
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: Like part of being a good organization is more than

900
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: just coaching, it's also personnel. Identifying the right guys they're

901
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: going to work in your culture, and they're as good

902
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: as anyone in the league. And you watch them. Even

903
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: Lamar think about his the way he cares himself as

904
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: a player, his toughness, his willingness to do whatever it takes. Like,

905
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: to me, that's an underrated characteristic of his ability. Because

906
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: he throws touchdowns, he's so fast, he can do all

907
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: these crazy moves, but When I think Lamar, I think

908
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: a tough dude, you know, and a guy goes right

909
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: now with Mahomes and Josh Allen can play in this weather.

910
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: But it's not like Lamar's from New York City, right,

911
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: He's completely unfazed by the weather. So yeah, they have

912
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 2: a toughness and a physicality to him that always works

913
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, Right, That's one thing in the playoffs.

914
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: Why did the Bucks just kind of survive for a

915
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: couple weeks because defensively their coordinators throwing guys or hitting people,

916
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 2: They're tackling, Like this isn't college football, right, You can't

917
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: just score a bunch of points you get in these

918
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: weather games. You getting these games. Some of those tackles

919
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 2: today with the Chiefs and the Bills, like how do

920
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: these guys get up? Look like guys broke their necks

921
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: and then the two plays later they'd be back in

922
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: the game. So that there's a level of physicality in

923
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: the NFL that, I it's clear gets amped up once

924
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: the middle of January comes and the Ravens have that

925
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: in spades.

926
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Lamar Jackson is almost the antithesis of Russell Wilson,

927
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: where Russell is sort of polished. Some think it's inauthentic

928
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: and never truly close. You know, you always feel like

929
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: he's almost a politician in a locker room.

930
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: It was shocking to see that picture with Pete Carroll's

931
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: party that Russell was there right right.

932
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: Lamar is the opposite. He just is so honest at

933
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: the podium. He's so honest with his emotions, and everybody

934
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: loves him, like not every quarterback is beloved. I mean

935
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: Brady oh As, I always thought that a great job.

936
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: He could chug beer with Gronk, or he could really

937
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: go academic with Josh McDaniels. He could be tough. You know,

938
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: there were so many elements to Tom that he always understood.

939
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: As he aged to connect with young.

940
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: Peyton Sneaky had that quality too, he was good at it.

941
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a player, I mean, these

942
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: quarterbacks all make money. I don't think there's a player

943
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: in the league that plays quarterback that his teammates love

944
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: more than Lamar. Like he just feels like Baltimore, a

945
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: little rough, totally authentic, unapologetic. It's he's just such a

946
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's I always laugh when people, you know,

947
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: I'll get dinged and people, Oh, you didn't think so

948
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: and so was gonna be any good. Well, first of all,

949
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: nobody knows christ the GMS don't know. Everybody passed on

950
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, Brady six times and brought pretty seven times.

951
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: Everyone passed on Lamar, The Ravens passed on them. They

952
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: took another guy in the first round.

953
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. But the thing is about Lamar that I always

954
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: appreciate about Baltimore is that Baltimore said, listen, we're gonna

955
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: just build a totally different offense. We're just gonna we're

956
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: gonna hire a coordinator. We're not gonna be great at receiver.

957
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: And it's just like it, It really is. Most organizations

958
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: don't have the courage to do that. Yeah, you know,

959
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: Harball was in big trouble. He puts me. I mean,

960
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: Harball's Lamar saved his job. And so I think there's

961
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: this loyalty with John Harbaugh. It's like, we're just gonna

962
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: make it work. We're just gonna figure out they well

963
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: he can't throw, Okay, we're gonna run it more. And

964
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: then we're gonna get more receivers. I mean, they missed

965
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: on some receivers. Now they have some draft picks they

966
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: missed on, and I think it's a great Lamar is

967
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: a great example when an organization just said, Okay, this

968
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: guy's dere but he's are different. Like I had a

969
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: friend that used to live in New York. He said, yeah, no,

970
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: it's a pain in the ass, but it's my pain

971
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: in the ass. I'm from New York. They just said, Lamar,

972
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna be here for you, and we're gonna figure

973
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: a way to use your superhuman skills. And I think

974
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: it's just emboldened the whole culture that it is so

975
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: pro Lamar.

976
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: I also think one thing's clearly changed in the sport

977
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: of football. Steve Young used to always say this that

978
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: the you know, for running quarterbacks, the way that they

979
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: were eventually going to take the next step was to

980
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: become a great pocket passer, because that's always what won

981
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: in the playoffs in the eighties and nineties. Well, you

982
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: watching Josh Allen even mahomes Day busted off like a

983
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: forty yard run, right Lamar yesterday, Like that translates what

984
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 2: he was doing if he's gonna pass, because he's also

985
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: much more under control, I feel now when he wins

986
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: than he was three or four years ago, the game

987
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: slowed down for him. The game's definitely slowed down. But

988
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks are so athletic, and the hitting on the quarterbacks.

989
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: Right in Steve's day, if he ran like some of

990
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: these guys, they would have tried to kill him. Legitimately,

991
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: they would have not sent him to the blue tent.

992
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: They would have sent him the hospital. And that's not

993
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: allowed in the game, and these defensive players know it.

994
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: So that's a huge advantage for these quarterbacks like Lamar,

995
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 2: like Josh Allen. That the physicality of the hits, and

996
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: definitely the cheap shots, like when you're sliding, they have

997
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 2: to not touch you so you can run. And Lamar's

998
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: pretty good at just getting down. He's not taking these

999
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: enormous Steve Atwater John Lynch shots where he's laying there

1000
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: and you think he's gonna die. He's getting up. He

1001
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: doesn't even look like he's sweating sometimes. So well.

1002
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: He also he put on about fifteen pounds. Remember the

1003
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: first year he came in his MVP year, You're like, oh,

1004
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 1: his traps. He's bigger, and he keeps doing He's gotten

1005
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: a little bigger and stronger every year, so you know,

1006
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: Michael Vicks talked about this, like he got to hit

1007
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: his second year and he's like, yeah, this stuff's punitive

1008
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: Lamar pretty quick. I mean, Lamar is really and this

1009
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: is what the great ones do. He was great when

1010
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: he came into the league, but he's just added elements,

1011
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: like he's better in the pocket. To your point, he's

1012
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: less frenetic, he's gotten thicker now, he's full fledged pocket quarterback.

1013
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: Whenever he wants to be well, he's very accurate now,

1014
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: very accurate. So it's like he was always good. But

1015
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: I think sometimes we forget John. This is also a

1016
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: developmental league. They don't these guys don't come in as

1017
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: is a fully formed, refined sandpaper players like Lamar's taking

1018
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: real leaps here in like three his body, his anxiety,

1019
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: his pace, and you remember his first year and a half,

1020
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: he didn't really know how to slide. He was taking

1021
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: shit and.

1022
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: I mean he still doesn't. He just kind of plops down.

1023
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 2: But he's good at it. He's good at like Michael Vick.

1024
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 2: Michael Vick's one of the most spectacular players in NFL

1025
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: history to watch, but he had this quality that he

1026
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 2: would almost turn into a defensive player when he ran

1027
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: and try to prove his toughness and take on and

1028
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: he couldn't slide either, but he couldn't even hit the ground.

1029
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 2: And he would take on shots and he broke ribs.

1030
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 2: He got injured a lot. Lamar for a very very

1031
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: tough guy, we don't need you to prove your toughness

1032
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: avoid everything. And that's I'd argue. One of his great

1033
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: skills is being at and this is i mean, probably

1034
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: one of the top five athletes in the NFL. When

1035
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: two guys are coming at full speed, he can just

1036
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: hit the ground. They both miss him, because if you

1037
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: do take a shot and you break a rib, the

1038
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: Ravens would be in major trouble. He knows that. I'm

1039
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: sure he's told that all the time. And now he's

1040
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: just you know, he's just completely confident of his speed

1041
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: relative to defensive speeds.

1042
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: Now.

1043
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: The one thing with the Chiefs and he saw it tonight.

1044
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 2: Their DB's hit, right, I mean justin Reid Eircreed's brother

1045
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: is throwing his shoulders around on their corners hit. So

1046
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: you gotta be and we'll see Willie gay situation Bolton.

1047
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: I mean, they're back seven, we'll throw their body around

1048
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: so I would imagine that's a point this whole week

1049
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: in Baltimore. Let's be very very careful and pick our spots,

1050
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 2: get out of bounds, extra couple of yards, live to

1051
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: fight another down because we cannot, because they're gonna come

1052
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: after him, right anytime he's running spag Nola old school coach. Right, Well,

1053
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: he's made history for killing Brady. They're gonna come after

1054
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: him when he's running around. So I would imagine part

1055
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: of the game plan is going to beating them through

1056
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: the air, which he's proven he can do now, which

1057
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: makes him I'm an unsempable player.

1058
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: So finally we got about ten minutes left here an

1059
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: overarching thing. So we have San Francisco Detroit. I think

1060
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: it's going to be very competitive of Baltimore Kansas City.

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00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: I think Baltimore wins, but again Kansas City's the wildcard

1062
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: because they've been in this game so many times. Go

1063
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: back to the Green Bay San Francisco game. One of

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00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: the things and I touched on it earlier that I

1065
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: really watched, and I touched on this last week. I said,

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00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: forget about Aaron Rodgers' political comments and vaccines shit, and

1067
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: people can have their opinions. I don't really care. I

1068
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 1: really don't care. I mean, COVID, I've got strong feelings,

1069
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: you know here there. It doesn't really matter. I don't care.

1070
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: But it is interesting that if you look at Brady

1071
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: and Stafford how strategic they were, and Russell Wilson to

1072
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: a degree, I'm going to go to an offensive coach.

1073
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: I want to make sure we have a good left tackle.

1074
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: I want to have weapons. Aaron signed off on the

1075
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: Jets and as I'm you know, worst left tackle situation

1076
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: in the league, defensive coach, one weapon, tougher conference, tougher

1077
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: division is I was watching Green Bay. You know, it's

1078
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: like usually when a star quarterback leaves, there's a dip,

1079
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: you know, Peyton Manning leaves or a Brady there's a

1080
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: clear dip. Stafford left the Lions. We forget they were

1081
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: like four and nineteen, you know, with Dan Campbell and Goff.

1082
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: I watched Green Bay and I'm like, is this the

1083
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: worst Green Bay team we're gonna see for the next

1084
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: five years? I honestly, honestly think if this Green Bay

1085
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: team faced last year's with Aaron, they would kick the

1086
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: shit out of it. Like I watched that team and

1087
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: I'm like John, they're a matchup problem. Nobody has three

1088
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: corners in this league, and all these young receivers are

1089
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: getting better. Not only did Green Bay not hick up?

1090
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: I look at it and is Aaron watching this thinking

1091
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: what did I leave?

1092
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: I think if we were having beers right now with

1093
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: Gudhakins in the floor, do you know what they would say?

1094
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: Our bigg regret was not trading h when he wanted

1095
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two and when we gave him one

1096
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars and we ended up trading

1097
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: him the next year because we were already listen, we

1098
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 2: already drafted the kid. This guy was already kind of

1099
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: playing with our emotions, going back and forth. We should

1100
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: have pulled the trigger right then. And I think if

1101
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: they had a do over, they would have shipped him

1102
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: to Denver or what it just got just taking the

1103
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: band aid off then, and they didn't. They got pressured

1104
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: right he had won a couple MVPs. It would have

1105
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: been difficult. But can you imagine if they had this

1106
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: guy two years into it now? Their organization has always been,

1107
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: at least in my life, once ron Wolf got there

1108
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: in the early nineties, a lot like the Steelers, a

1109
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: lot like this Ravens. I mean, how well does that

1110
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 2: team just draft? They always get a lot of shit

1111
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 2: for not paying money. Their organization is not like these

1112
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: other organizations. Now it's not you don't have an owner.

1113
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: You can attack, you got a board, you got this president,

1114
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 2: but he's not the owner. What the hell is going on.

1115
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 2: It's a complicated situation. But they run a high level

1116
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: football team, right, yes, and so you go, well, they

1117
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: know how to put guys around. I mean Aaron Rodgers

1118
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: went to the Jets. Think about that. He went to

1119
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: the Jets. Of all places, it's been one thing like hey,

1120
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the Patriots and try to reclaim

1121
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: some glory with Bill Belichick. He went to the Jets.

1122
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: So now he's old. Also, the other thing is, in

1123
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: the history of sports, most guys like him do fall

1124
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: off a cliff like I'm betting against him ever being

1125
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: good again. Honestly, those three or four plays before he

1126
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: tore his achilles, he didn't look a step slow, like

1127
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: he's not. He's forty years old, thirty nine years old.

1128
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: So I think the Packers listen, it's it's never the

1129
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: wrong time to do the right thing, and they got

1130
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: out and they have to feel pretty good about their

1131
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 2: situation right now. I bet they would have wish they

1132
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: would have done in twenty two and not paid them

1133
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 2: all the money and ruined their cap this year.

1134
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: Think about this Detroit. Ben Johnson's gonna leave, Yeah, and

1135
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to pay Golf in a year, So

1136
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: it's very possible we're seeing I mean, we think this

1137
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: Detroit thing is gonna last forever, but gof's gonna start

1138
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 1: getting expensive. Ben Johnson's gonna look.

1139
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 2: At the Eagles. They couldn't replace an offensive coordinator. It's hard.

1140
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: I think Dak, you're gonna have to pay Dak Dak, Ceedee,

1141
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: Lamb and Mica are gonna be one hundred million plus,

1142
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be limitation to that roster. And we

1143
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 1: don't trust the Cowboys.

1144
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: And Boys and can you imagine the pressure on that order.

1145
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Mike's gonna coach on his last year of

1146
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 2: his contract. That's got disaster written all over in.

1147
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Kittle, Trent Williams, McCaffrey, they're getting old. In

1148
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: key spots, They're getting really old.

1149
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: They gotta pay ayyuk, I mean it gets complicated.

1150
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just looked at Green Ban. I was like,

1151
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Stafford probably has two years left.

1152
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: I looked at them, and I'm like, San franciscoes getting

1153
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 1: old and it is rock pretty. The Lions are gonna

1154
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: lose Ben Johnson and have to Dallas is going to

1155
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 1: have to pay their three stars. Seattle's got a great roster,

1156
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: but I didn't have a quarterback. I just kept watching

1157
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: Green Ban. I'm like, this is the worst version. I mean,

1158
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: all these receivers, all these tight ends, they're old lines,

1159
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: like top four in the league. I was just taken

1160
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 1: back by there. There's no hiccup this team in Green Bay.

1161
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: And also I went back to this, I'm like, the

1162
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: first Lafleur's a great coach. Yeah, I don't know. I

1163
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: just you can if you look around corner and you

1164
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: see over the next two years, even if they redo

1165
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: the Jordan Love contract after next year, I mean they

1166
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't know where he'll go with that, But my

1167
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: guess is Jordan Love's not gonna end up being a

1168
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: fifty five million dollar quarterback. I just don't think it's

1169
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: that's not who he is.

1170
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 2: You wouldn't think. But if he has another thirty five

1171
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 2: touchdown season and they are, you know, top four seed,

1172
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 2: it's just kind of the going rate it would you'd

1173
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: have to pay him a lot of money. Maybe you're

1174
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: better off franchising. To me that I have no questions

1175
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: with their offense. Right if you just view Laflora as

1176
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: a star offensive coach, which I don't know how you

1177
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: couldn't the talent they have around him, I would say

1178
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: on the McCarthy and now the laflor Era, defensively, they've

1179
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: been a question mark. And when you look at the

1180
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 2: other teams. McVeigh his defenses are good. Kyle Shanahan, his

1181
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: defenses are good. Even right now, the Detroit Lions, their

1182
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: defense is flying around like that is an area like

1183
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: when I was young and you know, Home Bran and Andy,

1184
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: their defenses were awesome for far. Can they build a

1185
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: defensive culture there that they really have not had with

1186
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: their last two offensive coaches, And they've tried, They've gone

1187
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: through a bunch of defensive coordinators. They invest a lot

1188
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: of draft capitol and defensive players, but it does not

1189
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: look over the course of the last fifteen years with

1190
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: star offensive players like the other top teams, even the

1191
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: Chiefs now they rebuilt that defense crushing people, the Ravens,

1192
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 2: the Steelers forever, and obviously the team's in their division.

1193
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: So to me, if they can get their defense just

1194
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: to be competing, to be like a top ten unit,

1195
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: then they're a double digit win team for the next

1196
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: five years. But if that's always a question mark, if

1197
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: you get some injuries, you never know that. That's been

1198
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: an area of question though for that franchise. In my opinion,

1199
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: that's going to be Are they going to fire Joe Berry?

1200
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure now that he saved his job.

1201
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: Can they get more out of these players? Do they

1202
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: maybe invest a little bit more on that side of

1203
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: the ball with some with some money if they have

1204
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: a cheap quarterback for this upcoming year. To me, if

1205
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: you tell me they have a top ten defense next year,

1206
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: but I got this team could compete to be like

1207
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: the number one seed.

1208
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. The So, as we wrap it up, John Middlecoff,

1209
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: former NFL scout three and outs his podcast. We do

1210
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: this hour long on Sunday nights, so Atlanta and the

1211
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: Chargers are announcing everybody they interview. They want it out

1212
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: there and I think some of that is if they

1213
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: don't land Harbaugh, they want or Belichick, they want their

1214
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: fans to know we swung big. I was told by

1215
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: somebody who I trust, he really thinks the Chargers are

1216
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: going to pay for Harbaugh. He really believes it. Do

1217
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: you think there's I mean, between the fact that he

1218
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: owns Ohio State, he's losing all those players. The Big

1219
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: Ten's not getting easier. This is maybe the This year

1220
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: is the final year where you can say we have

1221
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: one big game of year where we have a physical equal.

1222
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: Ohio stages landed half of Alabama's roster. You see that.

1223
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: I saw that a quarterback, that high school quarterback who

1224
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: knows what to be as a collegiate.

1225
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 2: But I can't think the safety is like Ed Reed junior.

1226
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Ohio State's back in terms of like high

1227
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: end players at the right positions. Would you be surprised

1228
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: if Harba stayed in college.

1229
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: No, I fully expect him to leave. And I mean

1230
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: I've everyone thought that I've been talking to that thinks

1231
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: this Harbaugh just the Chargers deal as long as he's

1232
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: cool with it, like it has been a done deal for

1233
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 2: a while. I mean, there are rumors about they talked

1234
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: during that Rose Bowl week whatever, a couple of weeks ago.

1235
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: I think clearly the Chargers, I mean, they fell faced

1236
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: so much negativity. How long can you be called cheap

1237
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: and irrelevant before eventually you kind of draw a line

1238
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 2: in the sand. And we've talked so much about the money.

1239
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: I mean, these are just line items to him. I

1240
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: think he had kind of decided on that more than

1241
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: likely a long time ago, that he was coming back

1242
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: to the NFL, and once he kind of saw the landscape,

1243
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: that was the choice. I actually find it more fascinating

1244
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: on Belichick and the Falcons. Do you remember around the

1245
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: draft there were some rumors about Belichick, like in Baker Mayfield.

1246
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 2: Remember he was kind of interested and they were sniffing around, Well,

1247
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: Baker's a free agent, he needs a quarterback. Are we

1248
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: sure that Belichick wouldn't try to get Baker Mayfield? Baker

1249
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: looks pretty solid, right, just kind of play within that offense. Yeah,

1250
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: Harbaugh to the Chargers and Baker Mayfield and Belichick to

1251
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons' If I was a betting man right now,

1252
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 2: not the Baker thing, I think that would be cool.

1253
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 2: But I think it's pretty clear that Harbaugh Chargers and

1254
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: really where else is Belichick going. I mean, that's really

1255
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: his only option. It feels like right now is Atlanta.

1256
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's people. And I've said this with Baker,

1257
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: I'd have no problem signing him up for three to

1258
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: four years. I even thought today they just don't have

1259
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 1: the players. But I thought I thought he looked good.

1260
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: He you know, I mean, he gets into trouble when

1261
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: he thinks he's more athletic than he is and he

1262
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: moves out of the pocket and it's like, Baker, throw

1263
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: it away. He'll extend play sometimes and you're like, come on, Baker,

1264
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: this is not what you're not. That's not your game.

1265
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: But if you give him time, let him sit back

1266
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: and step into it.

1267
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: I think he's tailor made for a dome too, with

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Speaker 2: some of those weapons in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. And you know what's interesting in this league with

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Speaker 1: Baker is that, I mean Gino Smith's a great example

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Speaker 1: is it's become such a quarterback centric league, is that

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Speaker 1: there's reclamation projects. If I can pay you somewhere between

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Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty four, what do I care? The going

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Speaker 1: right now is in the fifties, So I look at

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Speaker 1: Baker and I'm like, if I could get him for

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Speaker 1: twenty six, I'm paying half of what Dak makes, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure he doesn't to a better ball

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Speaker 1: than Dak. So to me, Baker's got a real market.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody loves justin Field, but I'm still not

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Speaker 1: sure he can sit in the pocket and throw darts.

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Speaker 1: I know Baker can't.

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Speaker 2: I take Baker all day long over Justin Fields right now.

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Speaker 1: I think Baker's markets better than people think it is.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree. I Also, I haven't talked to you

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Speaker 2: since the Raiders named Antonio Pierce. I think anytime in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, and I get Max Crosby's excellent player, and

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Speaker 2: obviously so it's DeVante. But when you start letting the

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Speaker 2: players like this isn't Lebron or Steph Curry. When you

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Speaker 2: let them dictate and listen to Antonio Piers, team can

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Speaker 2: apt in Super Bowl team. No one questions his leadership ability.

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Speaker 2: But they have no offense. They have no quarterback or

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator in a in a division that has Andy Reid,

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Speaker 2: who's back in his conference championship for one hundred times.

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh is gonna go with Justin Herbert and Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton that their team's never gonna be worse, and he

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Speaker 2: found a way to win eight games, right, So that's

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Speaker 2: that's and I understand Mark. I don't know who else

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Speaker 2: he's gonna hire, but that seems a little risky when

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Speaker 2: you just start listening to your players in this sport.

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Speaker 2: It's because so much of a team game. If this

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Speaker 2: was the NBA and Max Crosby was honest, okay, but

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Speaker 2: it's like, well, you could have fifteen sacks and I

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Speaker 2: can still win seven games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, John, This is why the interim situation's really tough,

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Speaker 1: because what happens is everybody gets a natural energy bounce

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Speaker 1: from an intro have as coach every time, and the

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Speaker 1: Raiders have enough. I mean, if you go back, the

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Speaker 1: Raiders have enough playmakers, you can be this is a

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Speaker 1: very competent team. And especially when you play those divisional

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Speaker 1: rivals Kansas City the Chargers in Denver, those games are close.

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Speaker 1: They were close three years ago and the Chiefs were stacked.

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Speaker 1: So my takeaway is once you do that, and once

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Speaker 1: you blew out Josh, you knew this team was because

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Speaker 1: Josh is so despised as a guy he was just

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Speaker 1: the just that Antonio former player is going to be loved,

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Speaker 1: and so it was just like it's like the Raiders

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Speaker 1: couldn't quite see around the corner. It's like, guys, you're

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Speaker 1: just setting yourself up. And I hope Antonio Pierce works,

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Speaker 1: but we have to admit it. We watched today a

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Speaker 1: defensive coach, Sean McDermott get beat by an offensive coach

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Speaker 1: on the most at home. Finally with a run game

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Speaker 1: with the most vulnerable Patrick Mahomes is going to be

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Speaker 1: And so now we have two offensive coaches in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: In the championship, we have an offensive coach against kind

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Speaker 1: of a special team. I don't consider Harbaugh defensive coach.

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Speaker 1: I think he's done everything. He's very unique and so

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Speaker 1: like to me, it's like it's a risk Harbaugh Sean

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Speaker 1: Peyton read six games a year.

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Speaker 2: It's not easy. Sorry means good luck.

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Speaker 1: I wish him the very best. All right, this is

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Speaker 1: good stuff. Got a great weekend coming up. We'll talk again.

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Speaker 1: John's great, great CNU and appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You no prom call and talk to you soon. The

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Speaker 2: volume