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Speaker 1: All right, there's only four words left and this run

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Speaker 1: of the KFI Inflation Compensation Contest. So this hour, next hour,

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Speaker 1: two twenty on the John and Kim Show, we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk with John col John Coopaul from the Howard

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Speaker 2: Resident of the Association, and this subject is going to be,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, they really want to borrow this much money.

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Speaker 2: They're going to put measures on the ballot next year,

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Speaker 2: and particularly since November of twenty twenty four is the

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Speaker 2: presidential election, so you know, they draw on a lot

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Speaker 2: more know nothings.

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Speaker 1: People will pay no attention to anything but right, they

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Speaker 1: want the low IQ here harvest my ballot because the

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Speaker 1: the low IQ crowd that only votes once every four years.

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Speaker 1: They don't even know what a bond is. Okay, it's

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Speaker 1: borrowing a savings bond. Is that what it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And they don't know that when you borrow at these

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Speaker 2: So one thing we already talked about this week is

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Speaker 2: five billion dollars could be on the ballot for treating

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Speaker 2: fentanyl drug overdoses. Five billion there could be measures dealing

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Speaker 2: with climate change projects. Let's bring on John Copol and

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Speaker 2: see what else we can find out. And of course

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Speaker 2: his organization doesn't think this is necessary. They don't like

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Speaker 2: this much debt.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is this is all racket, isn't it, John?

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Speaker 3: It is. And let's clear up one thing that when

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Speaker 3: we talk about bonds, this has nothing to do with bondage.

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Speaker 3: Soeople who were like getting excited about this, let's just

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Speaker 3: you know, let's just set that aside. What you're absolutely right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, it goes from public finance to other things.

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right. When people see the word bond. They

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Speaker 3: need to think the word tax because bonds are nothing

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Speaker 3: more than an indebtedness that has to be paid by

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Speaker 3: future taxation. So that's the first thing. But California has

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Speaker 3: a very very poor track record in dealing with bonds.

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Speaker 3: This bond one of the bonds, and I think this

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Speaker 3: is teed off the column I wrote a couple of

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Speaker 3: of different all kinds of different projects, which is exactly

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Speaker 3: opposite of what you should use bonds for. Bonds can

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Speaker 3: be used legitimately for a single work or purpose at

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Speaker 3: the local level or the state level. For example, if

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Speaker 3: you've got a small community they need to build a

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Speaker 3: it makes sense because you know what you just you

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Speaker 3: that's legitimate as long as you budget wisely. That's not

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Speaker 3: what California does. California starts taking out bond debt for

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Speaker 3: things that are very temporary programs. You said the fentanyl crisis,

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Speaker 3: that is not a single worker purpose that is not

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Speaker 3: longer than the term of the bond. So there are

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Speaker 3: about six principles of legitimate or prudent bond financing, and

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Speaker 3: California manages to violate all six of those principles. So

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Speaker 3: that's kind of where I mean they do. Number one,

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Speaker 3: talking about, here's the title. Will this will get you guys?

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Speaker 3: It's entitled the Safe Drinking Water, Wildfire Prevention, drought Preparedness,

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Speaker 1: Wow, let's sound like all great things. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. So so anyway, so it's clear

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you though about that specifically. You say,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unless they find something to tie it to you.

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Speaker 3: speed Rail project. But that violated all that that violated

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Speaker 3: all kinds of other provisions. Number One that they lied.

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Speaker 3: They they they violated all the terms of the bond,

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Speaker 3: courts have been very generous on this, which raises another point.

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Speaker 3: You know, one of the things we'll be telling voters

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Speaker 3: at some of these cases, particularly related to the high

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Speaker 3: So we've got a lot of talking points and points

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Speaker 3: And quite frankly, I don't think all these bonds are

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Speaker 3: And remember there was a school bond on the ballot

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Speaker 3: So I think there is some underlying concern about the

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Speaker 2: Well, I have two questions for you, And how much

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Speaker 2: And look kind of interest rates will be be talking

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Speaker 3: Well, that's another point. I mean, one of the driving

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Speaker 3: they put a bond measure on the ballot and it passes.

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Speaker 3: But Wall Street has been looking very skeptically about the

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Speaker 3: use all that capacity. So short answer is Wall Street

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Speaker 3: there's a part of your ballot pamphlet where the LAO

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Speaker 3: people just need to be very careful. Well, I also

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Speaker 1: I also get to get really irritated. It's really wrong

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Speaker 1: that they want to spend I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: billions of dollars on fentinel treatment fentanyl programs. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: to treat the fentanyl addictions and overdoses. I mean, that's nuts.

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Speaker 3: It is nuts. It is nuts. It's it's the same

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Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of this stuff is just it's

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Speaker 1: just a waste of money. It's like that. It's like

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Speaker 1: all the bonds they took out, all the barring for homeless,

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Speaker 1: it's not even about what is our percentage of debt

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Speaker 1: This is a waste, This is a scam and a racket.

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Speaker 3: And how many times have California voters approved a water

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Speaker 3: So anyway, we will be carefully scrutinizing all these bonds.

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Speaker 3: I'm not one hundred percent sure which ones will make

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Speaker 3: very very carefully.

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Speaker 1: All right, John, thank you so much for joining us today.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: You bet. People can go to our website HJTA dot Organ.

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Speaker 3: We have a lot of info on there on this

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Speaker 3: and many other issues.

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Speaker 2: All right, John Coopol, President of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association.

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Speaker 2: And there's going to be a lot on Nextar's ballot

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Speaker 2: because it is a presidential election November of twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Big chunk of it could be stupid borrowing measures just

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Speaker 2: voting no no no on everything.

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Speaker 1: No remember no no no, no, no no no. I'll

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Speaker 1: avide that.

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Speaker 2: rounds of the Moistline of the three o'clock hour. We are,

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Speaker 1: Who that is.

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Speaker 2: Of course that's the hot topic because John, it's hot still.

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Speaker 1: No, it's because they can make a lot of money

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Speaker 1: The climate has not cooled. We've done this now for

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Speaker 2: So the warmer the uh, what doesn't a guy shovel

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Speaker 2: Well, the Associated pressed a fascinating story on what could

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Speaker 1: Supply and wildfires. And the answer is the beaver.

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Speaker 1: See look how helpful they are.

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Speaker 2: This could be an exaggeration, but there are some researchers

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Speaker 2: Killing them, I don't kill anything, not you.

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Speaker 1: So maybe they're smarter than we are. You know, we

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Speaker 1: This also is what goes on when you retire. You

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Speaker 3: I know you do.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I got a lot of retired guys in

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Speaker 2: They'll stand there sometimes with their mouth agape, look at

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Speaker 1: To watch the workers to nail things. That's what scares me.

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Speaker 2: All right, We got more coming up. Johnny KIDKFI A

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Speaker 1: It was Yarn Lomboarg, who we've had on the show

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Speaker 1: a number of times and he's our climate analyst, and

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Speaker 1: he did right for a new site last year. Each year,

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people die from cold in the United States,

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Speaker 1: forty times the rate of heat deaths. Huh. So, all

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Speaker 1: this howling going on from the El Segundo morons is nonsense.

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Speaker 1: All the hysteriacy on television is nonsense. Cold is forty

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Speaker 2: There you go, that's a good way to look at it.

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Speaker 2: California has a lot of cold deaths. But you're talking

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Speaker 1: He's basically, this is what I like to do, and

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Speaker 1: as you were earning money. Why do we care about

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Speaker 1: these people? Why does Bissetti care about these people?

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Speaker 2: She thinks they're gonna end up homeless. And it's more

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Speaker 2: people she has to find inside SAE.

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Speaker 1: It's their responsibility. They've had three years now, three years

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Speaker 1: to figure out how to pay the rent. If COVID

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Speaker 1: hadn't happened, they would have paid the rent every month,

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Speaker 1: right right, I would think so yes? And how much

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Speaker 1: money did Biden and Noose them send these people? Where'd

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Speaker 1: it go.

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Speaker 3: For Matt?

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Speaker 1: I'm really this is this is stupid. You made money

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Speaker 1: the last three years. It should have gone to pay

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Speaker 1: your rent.

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Speaker 3: What what is it? What is it?

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Speaker 1: And and and the uh and the landlords.

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Speaker 2: Are supposed to eat the losses. That was the thing

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Speaker 2: we covered. We talked to many landlords. A lot of

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Speaker 2: them are just small operators. They don't own.

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Speaker 1: Big apartment buildings all over the city.

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Speaker 2: They just own a few houses or apartment buildings that

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Speaker 2: they rent out to people. And they're still getting hurt

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Speaker 2: by this. I don't know what the breakout is, but honestly,

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Speaker 2: most people, if you told them that there was an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to to defer your rent for three years, they'd

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Speaker 2: take it, whether or not they were on hard times

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Speaker 2: or they weren't.

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Speaker 1: They just wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: You're telling me that, because of COVID, I can defer

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Speaker 2: paying my rent until twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Sure a lot of them weren't on hard times. I

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Speaker 1: know somebody who rented out of house and it was

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Speaker 1: a woman and two fairly grown kids. She was a lawyer,

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Speaker 1: working full time, didn't miss any work, and she just

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Speaker 1: stopped paying her rent because she was allowed not to

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Speaker 1: pay the rent. No hardship there. We don't take their lawyers.

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Speaker 2: Especially if there was an interest involved, you know, paying

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Speaker 2: interest on the deferred money is no of course we would.

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Speaker 2: So many people immediately use this to abuse the landlords

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Speaker 2: and really steal from them.

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Speaker 1: State sanctioned theft is what it was. For God's sakes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what you deserve to be out

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Speaker 1: of the sidewalk. If you can't figure out how to

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Speaker 1: pay the rent in three years? What'd you do with

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Speaker 1: all your money? Really? Where did it all go? Is

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Speaker 1: it anybody responsible for anything anymore. So they have all

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Speaker 1: this money.

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Speaker 2: They have eighteen million they want to spend to give

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Speaker 2: people short term emergency assistants to help pay their back rent,

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Speaker 2: twenty three million for something called the city's Eviction Defense Prevention.

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Speaker 1: Program right Enrich lawyers.

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Speaker 2: They have something else called stay housed La Bob. How's

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Speaker 2: all these workers that they hire?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is why I'm so anti tax I worked.

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Speaker 1: I went to work every day and these people are

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Speaker 1: taking my money because they refuse to pay the rent.

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Speaker 1: What did they not work for the last three years?

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Speaker 1: Just decide, hey, I don't have to pay the rank

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Speaker 1: and stay home somebody else. We got this silly lady

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Speaker 1: Karen Bessetti. She'll send me a check and be Sati

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Speaker 1: sends him a check.

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Speaker 2: Plus, we heard this screaming before in twenty twenty and

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. There's gonna be a wave of evictions

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Speaker 2: unless we enact tenant protection replies.

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Speaker 1: We don't let them evict anybody.

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Speaker 2: And then when some of those eviction things ran out,

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Speaker 2: we didn't see a way these evictions. Because John's right,

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Speaker 2: people find a way well, happy to not have to

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Speaker 2: pay their rest.

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Speaker 1: The method of governing now is to frighten people and

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Speaker 1: make a hysterical statement and.

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Speaker 2: To take over their responsibilities. Right, that's what I hate

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Speaker 2: with the homeless and everything else. And the drug users

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Speaker 2: take over their responsibilities, be their parent like they're a

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Speaker 2: five year old child.

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Speaker 1: That's what the dis government is operating. But the only

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Speaker 1: way to make that case and get people to give

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Speaker 1: in is to act hysterical and make crazy claims and

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Speaker 1: then manipulate people's emotions and say, well, don't you want

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Speaker 1: to be compassionate, Well, you know most people are mildly compassionate.

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Speaker 1: And you know that everyone's afraid of being told that

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Speaker 1: they're they're cold and callous, right, it's afraid of that,

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Speaker 1: And so these government officials use that against you. They

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Speaker 1: manipulate your emotions after they scare you or after they

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Speaker 1: make some wild hysterical claim. They oh mentioned in this

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Speaker 1: story is Measure Ula. That's that mansion tax.

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Speaker 2: They want to use that too to help people who

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Speaker 2: get evicted rent to protections. But last time we checked

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Speaker 2: on that, that did not take any anywhere near the

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Speaker 2: money they thought it was because the rich people sold

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Speaker 2: their properties before it kicked in. They were aware of

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Speaker 2: this and I don't know how the sales are going

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Speaker 2: now since that. I think that was in March or

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Speaker 2: April that kicked in, but that was way under the estimates.

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Speaker 2: Because people, even wealthy people, will avoid taxes if they can.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: There are some government officials that think that people are

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Speaker 2: just happy and willing to turn over their money for

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Speaker 2: their dopey ideas.

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Speaker 1: They don't care. If they can stir up the emotions

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Speaker 1: of poor people to vote against wealthy people, they will.

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Speaker 1: And now they have another revenue source, and now they could,

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Speaker 1: you know, hire more people. They could their friends, nonprofits

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Speaker 1: will thrive. They know what they're doing. They're sociopaths. They

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Speaker 1: know how to manipulate people some motions. You manipulate the

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Speaker 1: poor by making them hate the rich. That's the game.

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Speaker 1: They don't think they have right. They don't care whether

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Speaker 1: they have a writer or not, doesn't matter to them.

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Speaker 1: It's like I can get money out of them. I

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Speaker 1: know how to get money out of them, manipulate poor people.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna roll out the moistline callers next hour.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're coming up on the three o'clock hour

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Speaker 2: and in between we'll throw somebody into the dumpster. It

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Speaker 2: your final chance on this show to win one thousand

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Speaker 1: Will be revealed around three twenty.

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Speaker 2: Remember the other day we mentioned that Gavin Newsom was

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Speaker 2: going to stick his beak in the actor's writers strike

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Speaker 2: and see if he can't bring the parties together for

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Speaker 2: a settlement. Well, yeah, he had that one meeting on

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Speaker 2: Monday or something like that, and it was a secret

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Speaker 2: like remember he said he had a bad back and

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Speaker 2: he couldn't attend some governors.

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Speaker 1: What gathering him.

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Speaker 2: Instead, suppose he was behind the scenes talking to the

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Speaker 2: studio executives in the union. There's no saying Karen Bass

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Speaker 2: maybe trying to do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: They can't do anything. This is all performance. What is

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Speaker 1: she supposed to say? The actors want money for streaming

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Speaker 1: and you know the residuals, and Netflix says no. Well,

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Speaker 1: what's she gonna do.

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Speaker 2: You're saying no money for streaming and residuals or it

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Speaker 2: can't pay down right now, each terms that get they

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Speaker 2: get something of an increase.

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Speaker 1: Now they you know what I heard the other day

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Speaker 1: is heard this from two sources. Is let's say you're

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Speaker 1: in a show on a regular network, right one of

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Speaker 1: the broadcast networks, and you get residuals as long as

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Speaker 1: it reruns on broadcast TV. When they ship it to

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Speaker 1: something like Hulu, no residuals. It can play on Hulu

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Speaker 1: for the next twenty years. Not a penny.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, they're not paying anything and they don't they

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Speaker 1: don't want to pay anything. Otherwise they would, they would,

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Speaker 1: they would sit down and they would make a proposal.

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Speaker 1: But the studios and the streamers have not made a proposal.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking about this today, and I'm just saying,

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Speaker 2: it's such a different model than years ago. Like if

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Speaker 2: you have a movie in a movie theater where people

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Speaker 2: go and they pay an exact price to see a

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Speaker 2: specific movie, and you can track the results and then

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Speaker 2: you reward the stars and wherever else is involved in

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Speaker 2: the production, and the same thing. That's kind of true

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Speaker 2: today too, But the same things do with TV. When

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Speaker 2: we just had the networks and we had the ratings

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Speaker 2: and you can see the ratings every week, and you

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Speaker 2: got the advertisements with the commercials and you can pay

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Speaker 2: the stars accordingly. Now you have so much product out there,

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Speaker 2: and then Netflix just charges twenty dollars a month to

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Speaker 2: watch all of it. Now you can track who's watching what,

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Speaker 2: but it just becomes much more complicated to figure out,

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Speaker 2: you know, what everybody should get. And plus there is

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Speaker 2: so much product, there's just only so much money to

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Speaker 2: go around to hand everybody. And they won't reveal the

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Speaker 2: audience numbers for these shows. Yeah, there's there's no public knowledge,

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Speaker 2: and so the unions don't know, the actors and actresses

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Speaker 2: and writers don't know. If you're on a hit show,

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Speaker 2: you because presumably hit shows cause people to maintain their subscription. Remember,

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Speaker 2: I'm paying like twenty dollars to watch all the Netflix shows.

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Speaker 2: Whereas if I go to a movie theater or I

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Speaker 2: tune in you know, friends on a Thursday ninety eight o'clock,

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Speaker 2: they can see specifically and attach that to what you're right,

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Speaker 2: They can tell who's watching the shows. But when it

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Speaker 2: comes to the total massive moneies they get, how do

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Speaker 2: you allocate that specifically to all the people involved in

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Speaker 2: all these productors?

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Speaker 1: See what gets new subscriptions?

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Speaker 3: Mhm?

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Speaker 1: And what is it? What does it take for people

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Speaker 1: to drop a subscription? But like I signed up several

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Speaker 1: times just for a month because there were a specific

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Speaker 1: show I wanted to see, and when I saw all

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Speaker 1: the episodes, I canceled it. Often that's the free month

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Speaker 1: too people. I've heard people do that, Yeah, because they

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Speaker 1: didn't have anything else good. So some of these streaming

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Speaker 1: channels have loads of crap.

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Speaker 2: Well, it could take you all night to go through

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Speaker 2: all the shows that if you sit there on the screen,

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Speaker 2: you'll get the little previews and trails.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are almostly.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I noticed with Netflix there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of foreign stuff now they took in products that are

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Speaker 2: all dubbed with and I just can't relate.

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Speaker 1: So I don't that's to replace, you know, all the

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Speaker 1: American shows that aren't being made. You still go to Sarasota, Florida.

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Speaker 2: Are you familiar with the most I've been What did

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Speaker 2: you talk about this all day? The Mote Marine Aquarium Laboratory. Well,

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Speaker 2: the story is, sorry, Deborah Mark, we have a dead manatee.

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Speaker 2: Thirty eight year old you died and when they took

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Speaker 2: a closer look, they noticed he was not doing too well.

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Speaker 1: And then one day he.

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Speaker 2: Just he had a fourteen and a half inch sent

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Speaker 2: to me to rip in his cold. Apparently he got

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Speaker 2: buggered by his brother. Let me tell you.

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Speaker 1: Literally, she was a sex assault or just it just

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Speaker 1: went south.

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Speaker 2: No, it was it was two manatees that were gave

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Speaker 2: a large male manatee apparently.

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Speaker 1: Well, these two I've been visiting them for over thirty years.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, I know them very well, because all right,

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Speaker 1: my wife's family moved to Sarasota and she was a teenager.

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Speaker 1: And then when I met my wife, I started going

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Speaker 1: down to Sarasota a couple of times a year with her.

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Speaker 1: And then the kids thirty eight years old. So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so this so then the kids were born, and we

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00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: took the kids every spring break and sometime in the

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Speaker 1: summer to go see Grandma and Grandpa. And one of

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00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: the regular things we would do on every trip is

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00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: go to the marine and we would go see Hugh

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Speaker 1: and Buffett and the two manatees, you know, and these

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00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: these are huge blobs. They're called like sea cows, right,

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Speaker 1: and you could you could hear, you know, there was

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Speaker 1: a microphone, so you kind of hear the weird little

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00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: noises they made. And so for like twenty years we

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Speaker 1: took the kids to go see Hugh and Buffett. That

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Speaker 1: was just an annual trip. And then h died recently

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Speaker 1: and I wondered why in April he died. Yeah, so

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00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: it turned out that periodically, and I guess it's because

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00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: they were alone together so much. They're brothers, but they

679
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: both went gay. And Buffet's a male.

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00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're both males. Oh I thought the name

681
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: was a girl's name, Buffett, right, and Buffets bigger than Hugh.

682
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: So when Buffett went after Hugh, that's how the colon

683
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: got torn.

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00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, you can that's awful. You can fill in

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Speaker 1: the blank. There sort of like cellmates. Yeah, they were bored. Yeah, yeah,

686
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: like Buffett decided he was, I'm gonna give give you

687
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: a real ride. And I I was so shocked this morning,

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00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: I know, I really, I really was, because we just

689
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: was just a thing in our family to go see them, right, Yeah,

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00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: Hugh and Buffett were part of our lives.

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Speaker 2: Every year, are they going to arrest Buffet for assault?

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00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: Or you think this was voluntary?

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00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: Apparently two months every year there'd be an increase in

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00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: sexual behavior.

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00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: They said, how big is amenite penis? That's apparently bigger

696
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: than the You never saw any of this when you

697
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: were there. You didn't see them engaging. No, No, they

698
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: would just float peacefully away. Because Amanite's are all over Florida.

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00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: They're in the Gulf of Mexico and oh and they're

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00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: in the Intracoastal Waterway. In fact, when we went to

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00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: Sarasota just last month, we took a boat right through

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00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: the Intracoastal and we came across manatee and they're really friendly.

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00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: They pop up, they'll bump your boat, they come up

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00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: at if you're sitting at a dock, they'll come up

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00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: to the dock.

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00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: Do they have any teeth of any kind of I

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00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: guess they I never saw them open their mouth. What

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00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: do they eat? Do you know? They just I guess fish,

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00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: they just didn't. Yeah, I mean they're they're always in

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00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: the water, so I guess they'd have to eat fish.

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00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: But I don't know. But like apparently two months a

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00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: year they get they get a little crazy and and

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00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: normally at marine and this is a high end aquarium, right,

714
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: they do a lot of animal marine life research there

715
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: and it's one of the top centers in Florida. So

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00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: they're supposed to keep the two of them apart. But

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00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, are you observing a funeral invitation? Well, well

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Speaker 1: he died in April though, yeah. Last time, well last

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Speaker 1: time we went, there was only Buffett. Oh yeah, you

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Speaker 1: were there last month. We knew Hugh had died. We'd

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00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: seen the news. But be cause we but I got

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00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: an email from Mote Marine all the time, you know,

723
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: we we've donated some money, so I'm on an email

724
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: list and got an email one day that Hugh was gone.

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00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: But they didn't say because Buffet d hard.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, oldn't got so go over to Brydonton.

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00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: Apparently they had a man tee that lived to the

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00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: age of sixty nine. Yeah, Snooty Snooty, that's right. We

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00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: went to see Snoody all the time. It was Hugh

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00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: and Buffett Snooty. But Snooty got got killed. There was

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00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: a Yeah, there was something wrong. You got drowned in

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00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: a cave. It says, yeah, the workers screwed up somehow. Yeah.

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00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: It says here there were missing screws and they didn't

734
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: properly seal I guess something yeah in there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's been a terrible period here. You

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00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: need to stay away from them. Maybe it's your bad

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00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: juju or something I didn't jump on.

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Speaker 2: It's not kind of the reverse for John Copelts more

739
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Speaker 2: upset over.

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Speaker 1: These He knew them, he knew he did. He had

741
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: a personal relationship with the manatees. That's very sing I

742
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: think you could rephrase that.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, well, now that we know this story and you

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Speaker 2: gotta be careful more coming up, Johnny kat Kfi AM

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00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,960
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