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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sideline.

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Speaker 3: He is hanging with the boys.

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Speaker 4: Now, your hosts.

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Speaker 2: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 5: What is today? Thirday?

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Speaker 6: Our regular day now that the season is officially over?

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Speaker 3: You are looking man, what a day?

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Speaker 6: Looking live at Tostitos Championship Plaza outside.

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Speaker 3: Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, Texas.

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Speaker 6: At least the weather's nice, because we got a lot

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Speaker 6: of depressing stuff to talk about today on the show.

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Speaker 6: But it is seventy five degrees. The hide today is

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Speaker 6: seventy seven. The low tonight is fifty nine.

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Speaker 4: He is shinning two little shirt Gross, that is three

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Speaker 4: top super Bowl champion, Nate Newton, This is Kurt one

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Speaker 4: pump dame, because two pump will get you a five

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Speaker 4: in the back. It's Chris beating keeping the live of

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Speaker 4: the local and as always, I am your boy. Salt

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Speaker 4: and Pepper Poppy. Together we make Hanging with the Boys

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Speaker 4: the sports talk equivalent. Brill people.

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Speaker 3: When we speak wingstop is he.

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Speaker 6: I need to get some off season wings in here, Chris,

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Speaker 6: get us a wing drop. Yeah, we'll do if you

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Speaker 6: feel if you feel that the energy level out of

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Speaker 6: Jesse is a little bit low, because this is day

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Speaker 6: seven of his eight day eight of your thirty thirty

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Speaker 6: one day fast, Today's the first day he.

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Speaker 5: Can have juice.

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Speaker 6: Yep, I feel so you can hearing your voice though

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Speaker 6: you can hear in your voice it's like.

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Speaker 4: Man, amazing. I'm telling you, man, you never be a

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Speaker 4: better month.

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Speaker 7: It would be a.

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Speaker 4: Great month, yes, but you just the little things in life.

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Speaker 4: You just appreciate a little bit more, you know, And boy,

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Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just thankful.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 4: God is good.

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Speaker 5: Man, God is amazing.

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Speaker 4: You think about the suffering that he had to go

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Speaker 4: through and you had this little hunger pans was like

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Speaker 4: he had to go through more than that for me,

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Speaker 4: I could do this. But boy, I got I got

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Speaker 4: it this morning early and was like on the juicer

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Speaker 4: on because you.

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Speaker 3: Knew today was something was gonna be in your belly.

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Speaker 4: Besides yeah, and it's just spirit get lifted, Spirits get lifted, man,

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Speaker 4: and so.

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Speaker 3: Other things.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, glad we didn't have to show yesterday. Huh No,

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Speaker 8: we had to show yesterday. It would have been yesterday

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Speaker 8: was a struggle. It was a struggle. I'm glad we

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Speaker 8: didn't have it early this morning either, That would have

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Speaker 8: been trouble too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, might take a couple of breaks during the show.

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Speaker 4: Every Yeah, he'd be back.

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Speaker 3: Nate, how you been in the last week? Close to

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Speaker 3: a week?

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Speaker 2: I get beautiful, man, beautiful. I just want to thank

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Speaker 2: Dallas media nationally, locally and otherwise.

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Speaker 5: There we go. They finally fire.

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Speaker 2: Even flu Well we fitted we fit have a number

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Speaker 2: one ranked defense. So I'm so glad for the media

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Speaker 2: that they were right. Yeah, to be determined, hurt.

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Speaker 4: How you doing, I'm doing good?

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Speaker 9: Good to see you?

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Speaker 3: Good seeing you, Chris? You all right? Yes, are now

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Speaker 3: back there holding it down?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 4: Life should a little bit more simpler for Chris now.

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Speaker 3: It is, oh real simple. Actually he could actually go

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Speaker 3: to the restroom during the middle. Yeah, I could actually

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Speaker 3: go to lunch. How about lunch?

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Speaker 5: Lunch?

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Speaker 4: See, like Chris can actually go outside and enjoy this

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Speaker 4: seventy five?

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Speaker 3: Is there a show before us lunch? But there's no show? Well,

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Speaker 3: there's a show at eleven, the draft show that just

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Speaker 3: kicked off. They go twice a week eleven to twelve,

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Speaker 3: eleven to twelve, we got one at ten. Yeah, who's

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Speaker 3: the draft show this year?

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Speaker 10: We've got Kyle Yeomans. We got Tommy Yarish, who's back

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Speaker 10: here talking. We've got Votch Lombardi, Bobby Belt and Nick Harris.

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Speaker 5: Nice good deal. That's it.

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Speaker 3: Tune into that every that's great.

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Speaker 10: Thursday job, Thursday, Tuesdays and Thursdays at eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Lots to talk about, lots to talk about. All right,

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Speaker 3: you brought it up, Nate, Hebra Fluce is gone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we've been. We've been to do it now, man,

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Speaker 3: All the way to straight to the top, same personnel.

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Speaker 2: Because not everybody gonna take the ear wax out of

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Speaker 9: And he could sound like he was the fall guy.

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Speaker 5: Oh he is the fall guy.

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Speaker 3: I mean players were real open about how they felt.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, it seemed to shedding tears.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Sairday said the roof raised over there when they

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Speaker 2: got rid of Flukes.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: So, uh, I just want to see how many how

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Speaker 6: And it's gonna be interesting because what do we have

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe nine after.

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Speaker 6: Some teams get kicked maybe ten after some teams get

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Speaker 6: kicked out of the playoffs. Right, so your DC pool,

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Speaker 6: a lot of those guys are gonna be applying for

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Speaker 6: these head coaching jobs, right, So how's this gonna work?

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Speaker 3: What do you guys think as far as timing?

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Speaker 6: Is it gonna be a I'm glad they did it

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Speaker 4: Well? One of the things that kind of frustrated means

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Speaker 4: slightly yesterday about that press conference is they haven't even

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Speaker 6: Right, So I hope because but kind Devil's advocate on that.

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Speaker 10: Sure, around the league, there's a lot of play, there's

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Speaker 10: and you've not heard one name. Now you're head coaching candidates,

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Speaker 3: Okay, that makes it around the league. No, I got

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I got your saying. I not the dcs

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Speaker 2: And then exactly, you know the amazing thing seeing we

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Speaker 2: And then I literally started laughing when I heard the

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Speaker 2: band say, hold on, y'all, hold on, man, defensive coordinators.

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Speaker 2: That's just the NFL. If you go on ahead, coach,

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Speaker 5: This is what mister Jones said. But we just come

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Speaker 2: And I'm saying to myself, wow, all during the season

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Speaker 3: They grow on trees. Yeah, we put them on off

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Speaker 5: Did y'all not hear that part?

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Speaker 3: I heard it.

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Speaker 4: That was important.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, hold on, now, we we collectively wanted this

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Speaker 2: But now missus Jones like saying, it ain't like I

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, and then Jesse, you put a little

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Speaker 4: Out because you got to think, not only is the

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Speaker 4: So I don't know it's it's gonna be. It'll be

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Speaker 4: guess for me and I think what Nate is trying

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, like not just like, oh.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, we'll get the guy. That's what he says,

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Speaker 4: right I'm just like Okay, do you think because I

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Speaker 5: But anyway, yeah, picked it off.

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Speaker 6: They grow on trees. He just picked one off a tree,

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Speaker 5: Agents?

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Speaker 6: So you know, but I'm talking about the like coaches

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Speaker 6: calling like you were with this guy here he's oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: Now he's got an opportunity. Hey, if you get this job.

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Speaker 3: I heard your interviewing.

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Speaker 4: I want you and those guys who are interviewing me

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Speaker 4: because I'm mother the oppression that when you know you

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Speaker 4: can you say a name that's whatever DC that's interviewing.

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Speaker 4: that owner or that head coach in amount, they're gonna

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Speaker 4: want to know, well, who are you bringing, like, who

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Speaker 4: are you like, who's equipping with your who's going to

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Speaker 4: be your line coach, linebacker, coach, dB coach, Because that's

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Speaker 4: a part of the conversation as well, not only what

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Speaker 4: is your what is your scheme? What is your philosophy?

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Speaker 4: You know, we could see several new coaches then sure.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if if I'm the DC and I'm coming

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Speaker 4: to now have Aaron white Cotton as my defensive line coach? Like,

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Speaker 4: that's not that's not who I trust. That not my guy.

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Speaker 4: My guys, this guy that I've had for the last

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Speaker 4: we work together at this place for the last five years.

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Speaker 4: We're on the same page, we speak the same language,

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Speaker 4: and don't have the same philosophy. So yeah, there still

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Speaker 4: could be some some shifting and moving around here, because

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Speaker 4: it should be your your your Your head coach should

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Speaker 4: be able to pick his defensive coordinator, but your defensive

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Speaker 5: His assistant at least one or two guys.

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Speaker 4: Like he should be. He should be able to pick

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Speaker 9: So which would you rather see them bring in a

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Speaker 3: And what Sean what Sean Lee doing these days?

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Speaker 3: Aren't moving to California. It's like training camp.

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Speaker 2: The bottom line, whoever they get gotta have gotta carry

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Speaker 5: And what he say is the bottom line.

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Speaker 2: You know, for all that shot to keep saying this

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Speaker 5: I understand that right there, But how do your defense

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Speaker 2: If you got guys saying that a guy speaking French

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Speaker 2: You know now the defense office coordinator is going to

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Speaker 2: what How do you teach that? How can we get

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Speaker 5: Work on task?

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Speaker 2: How do we need to because what went this past

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Speaker 1: Huh?

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Speaker 9: Do you think that happened with Schottenheimer said you do this?

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Speaker 2: And then the thing is what I'm saying, It evidently

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Speaker 5: But the next guy that they get be it, whatever his.

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Speaker 2: Background is, he gonna have to come in and when

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about the whole defensive room.

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Speaker 2: If you got one dude over there, oh, let me

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Speaker 2: see how I can ramshack this. Now you got that

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Speaker 5: He's good at three four, he's good at four three.

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Speaker 5: That's the whole NFL.

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Speaker 2: Now you can have a base scheme, a three four

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Speaker 5: You can have a base scheme. What's colledor is a

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Speaker 2: But how many times did you see them actually line

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Speaker 2: So you got to be multiple. So that's the type

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Speaker 2: But what this guy has to walk in here from

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Speaker 2: day one saying I'm the man I'm putting in a

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Speaker 5: Chance we get.

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Speaker 2: So when we start adding on, we won't have guys

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Speaker 4: Is that the problem we had this year?

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Speaker 5: So now we got to.

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Speaker 2: You cannot sell me on another defensive coordinator and these

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Speaker 5: That's all we heard I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the Dallas cowboy problem. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: working with Bobby. Bobby asked the question last night. He said,

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Speaker 2: you work with this guy?

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Speaker 5: Can you work with that guy? Can you work with

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Speaker 4: And that's Bobby belt look radio personality, one of the

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Speaker 5: Us, and I stopped. I said, hold on, Bobby, I say,

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Speaker 2: That and I'm not gonna call guys names, but if

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Speaker 3: Hold on, coach, how good do you really think this

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Speaker 5: For real?

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Speaker 3: Now? Quinny Clark.

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Speaker 2: Uh Osa, as long as he's playing forty or less snaps,

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Speaker 2: those are your three guys. Now, how do I look

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Speaker 2: like saying, Hey, coach, why are you gonna use Donovan

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Speaker 2: not apologizing for what I'm saying. I believe what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Coach may say, well, if he ain't in the box.

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Speaker 5: How can I.

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Speaker 2: Use him because I want too deep saftists and I'm

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Speaker 2: just trying to keep it real. So now, what what

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Speaker 2: hire you because now you gotta improve your players too,

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Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. You gotta improve your players too. So, uh,

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Speaker 2: missus Jones, I love you to death, baby, and and

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Speaker 2: you tell some hell of the stories when you when

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Speaker 2: you're doing your exit interview with everything, but.

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Speaker 5: We need some players too.

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Speaker 3: Sure, they said they would.

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Speaker 6: We got to take a quick break here in a minute,

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Speaker 5: It's a it's a group, it's a you.

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Speaker 6: Know, it's a democracy. Would a good approach be like, okay, Shotty,

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Speaker 6: give us three guys, and let us bring those three

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Speaker 6: Because you go to the communication part. Part of that

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Speaker 3: We speak the same language, we communicate the same way.

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Speaker 6: Get this to the players. Maybe that was part of it,

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Speaker 6: is this wasn't one of his guys? They didn't, They

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Speaker 6: weren't on the same page. Would that be the right approach?

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Speaker 6: Is Hey, give me your top three guys and let's

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Speaker 6: to get one of those guys. Or do you think

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Speaker 6: it'll be, Hey, here's who we're bringing in. Which one

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Speaker 5: You like the best that one?

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Speaker 3: Because that's typically the way it goes, right.

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Speaker 9: The lot of schutten Himmers should have more saying it.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, we know so, so more of the same

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Speaker 6: is what we think.

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Speaker 5: Boom, okay, all right.

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Speaker 3: Well that's a good way to go on to break.

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Speaker 6: We'll talk more things than defensive coordinator when we come back.

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Speaker 3: Stay tuned to see what those are.

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Speaker 3: to go with this, Kurt?

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Speaker 9: Where we want to go with this?

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you where we can go in end of

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Speaker 3: your predictions?

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Speaker 6: Oh, no one and I think no one in the

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Speaker 6: Country at the Cowboys, finishing at seven nine and one,

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Speaker 6: including everyone on this show. We were close. Chris was

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Speaker 6: the furthest off. He had the Cowboys at ten and seven.

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Speaker 3: Kurt, Yeah, b I'm a homer.

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Speaker 5: Homer, you are a homer.

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Speaker 6: You'll have him going what seventeen and o next year

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Speaker 6: with eight? Yep, Kurt nine and eight, Jesse eight nine,

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Speaker 6: and I had him at seven and ten.

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Speaker 3: So congratulations, A little pat on the back.

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Speaker 5: Well, he went and smoked up the papers of the

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Speaker 6: I got to him before y'all got in here. Did

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Speaker 5: All right, Kurt?

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Speaker 3: Where do you want to go?

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Speaker 9: I don't know where? Do you think? What would uh?

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Speaker 9: What interest you guys? Well, you know, Jerry's getting a

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Speaker 9: Parsons trade. The best is yet to come. This probably

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Speaker 9: what did you guys think of kind of those comments

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Speaker 9: and where they might lead.

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Speaker 5: To me?

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Speaker 4: And because for whatever reason, whatever the reason that Jerry

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Speaker 4: whether it was personal, professional, he was planning on doing it,

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Speaker 4: it was because of the poor leadership, whatever it was,

449
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Speaker 4: he is going to continue to move gold post and

450
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Speaker 4: finish lines until this thing turns out that he actually

451
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Speaker 4: won the trade. Because initially it was you know, we

452
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Speaker 4: had planned on this earlier, it didn't work out. It

453
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Speaker 4: was so much money, all that kind of stuff. And

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Speaker 4: then it was we got Kenny Clark and we finally

455
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Speaker 4: got the run stopper that we need. And then after

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Speaker 4: that the season began and it was os, we actually

457
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Speaker 4: don't have the run stopper that we need. Because if

458
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Speaker 4: I find it very hard to believe that if this

459
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Speaker 4: team was stout as they were supposed to be upfront,

460
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Speaker 4: you have no need to go get Quinn Williams. You

461
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Speaker 4: had no need to go get Quinn Williams. You already

462
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Speaker 4: had a guy. You got a guy in a trade.

463
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Speaker 4: You just paid a gay and osa. But you looked

464
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Speaker 4: around and you said this ain't gonna work. So then

465
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Speaker 4: you had to double down on that. After you told

466
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Speaker 4: us we finally got it, we can manipulate the pressure

467
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Speaker 4: and all of that other stuff, and then you had

468
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Speaker 4: to double down on that and go get Quinn. Great addition,

469
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Speaker 4: we like Quinny, but even at the year went along,

470
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Speaker 4: you still suffered from the same thing that you needed.

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Speaker 4: You need you needed it. You needed Micael at the

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Speaker 4: beginning of the year, and after you got Kenny Clark,

473
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Speaker 4: and after you got Quinn Williams, and after overshown and

474
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Speaker 4: came back, and then after you went and got Logan

475
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Speaker 4: Wilson and all that, you still need a pass rusher.

476
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Speaker 4: To Davian Clowney, thirty three year old mercenary was your

477
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Speaker 4: best pass rusher, your best edge ctter and what world

478
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Speaker 4: is that going to be a successful situation? And he

479
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Speaker 4: had what three sacks in the last games, right, so

480
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Speaker 4: he really would have finished with five and a half sacks.

481
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Speaker 4: He had a really good outing against a poor team

482
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Speaker 4: in the New York Giants. So your your best sack

483
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Speaker 4: guy in essence who came in, who was signed after

484
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Speaker 4: the season started, and then took a couple of weeks

485
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Speaker 4: to get ramped up, and then finally had to go

486
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Speaker 4: to the coach and say, hey, you know, I'm better

487
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Speaker 4: than the guys that you keep putting out there in

488
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Speaker 4: front of me. And they were like, oh, yeah, okay, cool,

489
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Speaker 4: put him out there. He and he in essence finished

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Speaker 4: a year with five and a half sacks at no

491
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Speaker 4: point in time did it. And then we watched quarterback

492
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Speaker 4: after quarterback after quarterback after quarterback walked into this. Russell

493
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Speaker 4: Wilson said in his exit interview. Yeah, crazy that he

494
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Speaker 4: pulled his hamstring the Friday before the Cowboy game, that

495
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Speaker 4: he was getting treatment he in Dallas at the Maverick

496
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Speaker 4: facility and went on to put full fifty and three

497
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Speaker 4: tunnies on you, JJ McCarthy, Jacoby Brissett and the list

498
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Speaker 4: goes on and on and on and on and on

499
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Speaker 4: and on and on. Well, they just was in the pockets,

500
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Speaker 4: just comfortable. So he's never going to be wrong because

501
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Speaker 4: the mechanism of movement will continue to move over time, right,

502
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Speaker 4: because it's just one player turned into two draft picks

503
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Speaker 4: with essession, they could turn into four and six players. Well,

504
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Speaker 4: how the hell will we know when these six players.

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Speaker 9: That, I mean, I'd agree with him to a point

506
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Speaker 9: because this trade you can't judge it until they do

507
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Speaker 9: something with these draft picks and figure it out. But

508
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Speaker 9: I mean he also talked about, well we freed up

509
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Speaker 9: space for pickings now and that sort of thing. That's

510
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Speaker 9: that's where it kind of gets into the weed.

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Speaker 4: Anybody will tell you and I went to a public

512
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Speaker 4: high school, I went to a public university. Anyone would

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Speaker 4: tell you with internet access, it's not true. It's not true.

514
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Speaker 4: Not only could if you have signed Micah, you could

515
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Speaker 4: have still if you wanted to, went and got Quinning

516
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Speaker 4: and sign Pickens. Now is that the way that you operate? No? No,

517
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Speaker 4: but you you have And what makes that even more?

518
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Speaker 4: I guess kind of frustrating as a lot to tell.

519
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Speaker 4: I'd rather you just say I don't want to operate

520
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Speaker 4: that way because you have teams in the very league,

521
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Speaker 4: hell in the very conference that you play in that

522
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Speaker 4: do it religiously. Now, one day you're gonna have to

523
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Speaker 4: pay the credit card bill. Philly would have to pay

524
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Speaker 4: the credit card bill. Or when they get to that day,

525
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Speaker 4: know what they'll do. They'll just put more years on

526
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Speaker 4: it and push it down the road. Again, it's very doable.

527
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Speaker 4: They don't want to operate that way. You have to

528
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Speaker 4: be more. You have to spin a little bit more

529
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Speaker 4: cash up front. Now that's a whole other court. That's

530
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Speaker 4: a whole another conversation about are they cash strapped or not,

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Speaker 4: or how their cash flow is working. But you can

532
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Speaker 4: get deals for premium players per year you can backload it.

533
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Speaker 4: You pay the signing bonus. That base salary is a

534
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Speaker 4: small number, and it increases year after year after year.

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Speaker 4: Then it gets to a number where you have to

536
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Speaker 4: either extend it again or absorb that number. But if

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Speaker 4: you're telling me that I'm going to go to two

538
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Speaker 4: Super Bowls in five years and win one of them,

539
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Speaker 4: well guess what I'll take that in thirty thirty one,

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Speaker 4: I mean twenty thirty one and twenty thirty one five

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Speaker 4: years from now. If you tell me that from twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty six to thirty thirty one that the Dallas Cowboys

543
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Speaker 4: have been perennial playoffs, have gone to two super Bowls

544
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Speaker 4: and one one, sign me up A worth it. And

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Speaker 4: then if you gotta suck for a year, you suck

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Speaker 4: for a year. All that you know, all the money

547
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Speaker 4: comes crashing. Now, all right, I sucked for a year,

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Speaker 4: and guess what I do. I re up and I

549
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Speaker 4: do it again. Yeah, they're doing it all across the league.

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Speaker 4: So to say that it's not it's not it's impossible.

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Speaker 4: It's a blatant lie. I'd rather you just say I

552
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Speaker 4: don't want to do it that way, because that's the truth.

553
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Speaker 4: It's not impossible. You don't want to do it that way.

554
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Speaker 4: And it's your team, your team. You paid the money.

555
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Speaker 4: They cut your credit card up at the count that

556
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Speaker 4: you talked about before and the Bronco and all this

557
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Speaker 4: is you spent your heart on money, shoes, salesmen and

558
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Speaker 4: pizza stop and all that that you saw the documentary.

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Speaker 4: Just say that. Don't tell me it's impossible. Just say

560
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Speaker 4: we don't do business in this way. Y'all like it

561
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Speaker 4: or y'all don't like it, but don't lie and say

562
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Speaker 4: it's possible, because you could have quinnin Micah and George

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Speaker 4: Pickens if you want it to ye.

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Speaker 5: What are our thoughts?

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Speaker 4: See what's what I.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, alright?

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Speaker 6: Moving right along, Kurt, How would you grade the head

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Speaker 6: coach after his first season as a head coach?

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Speaker 3: I think we all have probably opinions about that.

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Speaker 5: What is what is yours?

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Speaker 9: I will say maybe like a B minus, okay, somewhere

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Speaker 9: in that range. But I think I do think he's

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Speaker 9: building something if he can get the players. Obviously winning

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Speaker 9: breeds culture, you know, as you guys know well that

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Speaker 9: he's got to keep. I like the energy, I like

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Speaker 9: the message, all that stuff, but he's got to win.

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Speaker 9: I think he's still has a few things to learn

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Speaker 9: about managing the game and the players and his coaches apparently,

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Speaker 9: so I would say he's did better than average, but

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Speaker 9: still some work to do.

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Speaker 5: What do you think, Nate it be on? Which Kurt uh?

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Speaker 2: You know we all know that dealing with the Jones

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Speaker 2: is you gotta be a special guy. You got to

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Speaker 2: be a special guy. But I think I think he's honest.

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Speaker 2: I get the feeling if mister Jones said, hey, man,

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Speaker 2: what do you think he gonna give him his honest opinion.

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Speaker 2: He ain't gonna try to Kurt tell it. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: give him it.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: Whether mister Jones listen is another thing, But I think

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Speaker 2: he's gonna talk straight up to the coach. Even when

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Speaker 2: he was talking about brother Flus. You know, he said

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Speaker 2: what he felt. He's been consistent about how he said

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Speaker 2: and do things. So I'm gonna give him a B

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Speaker 2: because but next year I'm gonna expect better because he

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Speaker 2: should know. Like you said, he should know that hey it,

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Speaker 2: much more is expected now.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, guys.

668
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 6: I think B be minest, but I would say his

669
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 6: first year, and like you said, it takes a special person,

670
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 6: especially somebody coming in with no head coaching experience, to

671
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 6: juggle the circus, juggle, the media juggle, the access juggle,

672
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 6: the players that he had in the building, because he

673
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 6: didn't have the easiest players over there, and they made

674
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 6: it through the season and seemed to have kept the

675
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 6: locker room attagged. I think the players respect him. I

676
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 6: think the I think, like you said, he's honest. He

677
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 6: seems like a good Do him justice, though, If you're

678
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 6: gonna give him a chance to build something, which it

679
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 6: seems like he's doing, let him do things different. I

680
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 6: know this is it's not going to happen, but give

681
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 6: him the benefit. Let him pick his own DC, let

682
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 6: him bring his own guys in. Let him if you're

683
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 6: really gonna build this thing and make a run at it,

684
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 6: let him have more of a say in what's going up,

685
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 6: things that directly interact with him. Players Okay, GM calls whatever,

686
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 6: but like, let him have a say, let him hire

687
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 6: his own DC. Let him say, hey, here's my guys.

688
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 6: I'm happy with any of these. Let's bring him in

689
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 6: and the make it like, do this the way you

690
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 6: haven't done it. If you really want to talk about, hey,

691
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 6: I want more super Bowls.

692
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 5: Than I've ever won.

693
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 6: Okay, do something different. Those were things are different now

694
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 6: than they were thirty years ago when we won.

695
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 5: Those super Bowls.

696
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 6: Do something different. This seems I think he's the right

697
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 6: guy for this place. But give him the tools and

698
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 6: give him, give him a little bit more control than

699
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 6: what some guys have had in the past to go

700
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 6: build it. If you really believe in him and really

701
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 6: think he can build it. Let him go build and

702
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 6: let him help you build this and and I think

703
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 6: it could work.

704
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 3: But B B B minus.

705
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 6: I was pleasantly surprised with some some clock decisions, some

706
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 6: in game calls, some things like that that I think

707
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 6: you can work on and you learn as the first

708
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 6: year head coach. But I think overall, he did a

709
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 6: really good job of holding this thing together. Especially as

710
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 6: bad as that defense was. That team could have turned

711
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 6: on themselves really quick. So I give him a B.

712
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I give I give Shotty a lot of credit

713
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: for handling the external stuff, right. Not too many head

714
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 4: coaches have to deal with losing my best player to

715
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: be a trade and then dealing with the Marshawn Kneeling

716
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: uh situation, and of course everything else like you all

717
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: mentioned that comes along with being at with the Star,

718
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 4: Like that's just that comes along with that. Your owner

719
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 4: has a radio show, he's with Steven A. Smith. He's

720
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 4: you know, you gotta do all that kind of stuff.

721
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: He's breaking news that he's yeah, so that so that

722
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 4: level of stuff. You know, I you, I give him

723
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 4: a lot of credit for just navigating those choppy and

724
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 4: you know, and none, I don't even know, I'm not

725
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 4: saying uncharted waters, but just hectic waters. But for the

726
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 4: on the field stuff, because that's what ultimately he gets

727
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 4: grade on at the end of the day. Right, I

728
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 4: give him a C and I'm I'm maybe can go

729
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 4: up to a C plus. And my biggest thing is

730
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 4: that not only was this defense bad, your special teams regressed,

731
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 4: but you had two you had two units under you

732
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 4: that regress regress. Now does that mean that because of

733
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: all your focus is on the office, because your other

734
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: offers to play caller as well with all the other

735
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 4: responsibilities that come along with that, maybe that needs to

736
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 4: be delegated somewhere else so that you can be more

737
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 4: of a manager of everything that you own and in

738
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 4: any game. You know, it's it's really hard to mess

739
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 4: up Dak Prescott, seas Lamb and George Piketts. That's not

740
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, that's not a you

741
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 4: don't you're not in the lab racking your brain trying

742
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: to figure out, oh my god, how can I get that?

743
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 4: It's not this very hard. It's it's like, you know,

744
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: to mess up instant oatmeal, just pour just enough water

745
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 4: in it, put it in the microwave.

746
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 5: We go about our business.

747
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 4: Those guys make your life a lot easier to know

748
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 4: that even when I'm not right, I got a ten

749
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 4: year vet who's a top ten quarterback, and I got

750
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 4: two top ten wide receivers. Life will work itself out.

751
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 4: But I did. I did think. You know that this

752
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 4: team regressed in the red zone some of the play calling,

753
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 4: the clock management, but overall and the Sea's listen sees

754
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 4: get degrees. Okay, don't get your playoffs, but to get

755
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 4: your degrees, what did.

756
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 9: You guys think? I mean, I don't obviously the last

757
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 9: game whatever, But were you surprised that down six he

758
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 9: started pulling those guys because.

759
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 4: I was very surprised because you you you told me

760
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 4: compete every day. You told me the two weeks that

761
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 4: you're looking to win, and you wanted to win. You

762
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 4: wanted to go out on top, and you wanted to win,

763
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: you know, have the wins in the division. And you

764
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 4: told me all of that, and then you go at halftime, okay,

765
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 4: pull these guys out. Wait, I thought when he was

766
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 4: important here, I thought I thought that was a part

767
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 4: of how you built culture. You told me that that

768
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 4: was a part of building momentum. These are not my words.

769
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: But see that is the part where I give him

770
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: a b because we we all know that if that

771
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: call come from upstairs, what you're gonna do?

772
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, like Shannon said that he have.

773
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 5: And that his own call.

774
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 4: Well in that case, and then you're not going to

775
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 4: be a winner if that, if we're if we're looking

776
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 4: at that, he's never gonna be able to build what

777
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 4: he wants to build because if the call just come,

778
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 4: when the call comes, and you have to march to

779
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 4: those orders.

780
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: Then But see that is why at the beginning of

781
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: the year we all talked about this. I want to

782
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: see will he be able to manage the players? Whereas

783
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 2: he say on Monday, hey, this guy's hurt, can't play,

784
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: then get a show come on Thursday. But god, he's playing.

785
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: That's too much. That's too much for any coach. It

786
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: should begin and end with the coach once the draft

787
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: is over. Understand, you know, you you know, But once

788
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 2: the draft is over, you go over to that side

789
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 2: of the building. Now you become the head coach's responsibility.

790
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 5: And that's how it should be.

791
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: And it's always going to be a rip with the

792
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: coaches over the long haul because they can.

793
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 5: That word is not the law. That word has to

794
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 5: be the law. And I'm with you there, but that

795
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 5: is always a thought, you know, is he gonna play

796
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 5: these guys all the way to the end.

797
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: All of a sudden they're out of there? He'll be like, now,

798
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: as a guy, are you thinking you need to call up?

799
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: Did he make this decision? Too many mind games? Bro,

800
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: too many mind games?

801
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 6: All right, fellas three more minutes? Any other thoughts on

802
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 6: the season before we move forward to the draft next week? Well,

803
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 6: y'all move forward to the draft next week. I will

804
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 6: be on a beach in Mexico this time.

805
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: Fans, fans, fans, listen to the draft. Show got great guys,

806
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: gonna get a lot of information on a lot of

807
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: the great and up and coming talent. But you know

808
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna tell you, Like I bought, and I'm

809
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: gonna say it all year, you can draft anything on

810
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: defense and you ain't.

811
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 5: Gonna be wrong. Listen to me now.

812
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 4: But that was another thing, And again, this is what

813
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 4: we this is what they pay us to do. This

814
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 4: what we do is that when you sit up there

815
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 4: and you have an hour and a half, hell love

816
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 4: with that press conference, Chris one hour and twenty six minutes,

817
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 4: a little of an hour. When you have that press conference,

818
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 4: it's our job to pick apart the things that come

819
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 4: out of your mouth because we're supposed to take that

820
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 4: as the truth. And boy, never once did they mentioned

821
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: about when off season they stayed away from the russ Edges.

822
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 4: They talked about secondary and having some guys out there

823
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 4: talk about livebacker. That goes back to what I was

824
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 4: saying earlier, is like, yeah, you don't want to say

825
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 4: we need to go get Russians or an edge Russian

826
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: because people will go, well, you had to bet one, Yeah,

827
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: one of the best. You know what I mean. And

828
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: that's not telling your hand because you're trust me, your

829
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 4: hand is open. If they turn on the film, they

830
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 4: watch you this year. They know every team before you

831
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 4: and after you know in the draft exactly what you need.

832
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: What are we picking this year?

833
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 5: Do we know for sure?

834
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 4: Right now we're twelfth and twenty, but it all depends.

835
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 4: We're twelveth for sure, but what the Green Bay does

836
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 4: in the playoffs will determine whether that twenty moves back,

837
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 4: meaning right the twelve.

838
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 6: For sure, twelve for sure and then twenty depending on

839
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 6: how they we want them to lose in the first.

840
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 4: Round, so that it right, and and I'm I will

841
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: be you know, I want to welcome, you know, rookies in.

842
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 4: I got no damn choice. But for me, if we're

843
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 4: talking about having an immediate turnaround of this football team

844
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 4: and this thing going from worse to first or to

845
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 4: be in that, I need veterans, agents, nee veterans, because

846
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 4: if you this is just Jesse Holly, this is no

847
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 4: one else two positions. If you're I don't care how talented.

848
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 4: Right now they have a lot of people have sunny style.

849
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 4: The Ohio State linebacker mocked to the Cowboys at twelve

850
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 4: creit cool. All right, I don't want a rookie. I

851
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 4: don't want a rookie when he has he has no

852
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 4: one next to him to learn from. And now you

853
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 4: put that pressure in that rookie to come in here

854
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 4: and have to be the answer. They won like Overshown,

855
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 4: but Overshown ain't played enough football to take nobody under

856
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 4: his wing. And please God, I don't want Kenneth Murray

857
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 4: teaching them. Please know, please know, Please know, so you know,

858
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: and and and you gotta go get a cover corner.

859
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: You gotta go get a cover corner Bland. They're talking

860
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 4: about Blands going to get surgery to correct his foot issue,

861
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: screwing his foot whatever. Who knows what happened with that.

862
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: Who knows what happened there. They've probably brought Revel back

863
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 4: a little bit too soon, shook him to the core.

864
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 4: Don't know what Kayler Carson is going to be and

865
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 4: come on like this is no disrespect to these young men.

866
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 4: But try Quest Bridges. Tryquest. Shouldn't be getting no reps

867
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 4: out there like that, y'all. Like, I'm not saying that

868
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 4: he shouldn't play in the league, but he shouldn't be

869
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 4: in the conversation of this is a guy in your

870
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 4: starting rotation of dbs that you have to go and

871
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 4: play with. I'm sorry, Track Quiz and Josh Butler.

872
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 5: And.

873
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: There's a role for you in this league. But if

874
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 4: Bridges is the cornerback on your football team and he's

875
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 4: getting more than special team reps and an occasional, ain't

876
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 4: gonna get in there for a couple of players to

877
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 4: come on back over here, you're gonna be down back.

878
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: Any final thoughts, Nate.

879
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: Once again, fans, if you think we need a safety

880
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: we do. If you think we need a corner, we do.

881
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: If you think we need a pass rush edge, we do.

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Speaker 2: You cannot be wrong. But listen to these guys on

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Speaker 2: the Draft show. They'll give you the size, the numbers

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Speaker 2: and everything. That is all great, but you can't be wrong.

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Speaker 2: We need massive help on our defense and we need Jess.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry you got the linebacker. We need a veteran

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Speaker 2: linebacker and we need a veteran tackle. Please don't go

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Speaker 2: getting another rookie tackle. I don't need no more unless

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Speaker 2: he's a top three Kurt.

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Speaker 3: Any final thoughts, No, it's good to see you guys.

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Speaker 5: Can we get one point?

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Speaker 6: I'll see y'all in two weeks. Have a great show

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Speaker 6: next week, same time, same place.

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Speaker 3: Hang up with the boys.

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