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Speaker 2: A small city in southern California, recently became the first

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Speaker 2: municipality in the US to recognize the legal rights of

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Speaker 2: a non human animal. The Ohai City Council voted four

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Speaker 2: to one last month to give elephants the right to

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Speaker 2: bodily liberty. Quote. The City Council intends to adopt an

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Speaker 2: ordinance to codify elephant's fundamental right to bodily liberty, thereby

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Speaker 2: prohibiting the keeping of elephants in captive settings that deprive

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Speaker 2: them of their autonomy and ability to engage in their

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Speaker 2: innate behaviors. You might be wondering what motivated this first

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Speaker 2: of its kind to ordinance. Is there an elephant being

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Speaker 2: unjustly held captive within city limits? Not exactly. The Non

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Speaker 2: Human Rights Project explains in a press release that there

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Speaker 2: used to be a captive elephant named Tara that lived

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Speaker 2: in the Ohi Valley and was used for entertainment. This

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Speaker 2: was the nineteen eighties and people could still be entertained

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Speaker 2: by a roller skating elephant, but Tara is no longer

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Speaker 2: with us, so this ordinance was passed to make sure

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Speaker 2: no other elephant will be subjected to that kind of indignity.

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Speaker 2: Fun fact for you. The last time, and I think

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Speaker 2: only time I was in OHI, I was subjected to

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Speaker 2: of all places. Hopefully OHI has taken care of that

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Speaker 2: situation and moved on to elephants, not in the other order,

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Speaker 2: I'm afraid n Anyway, what the actual ordinance is, Elephants

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Speaker 2: can still be held in captivity as long as it's

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Speaker 2: the right kind of jail. The ordinance makes an exception,

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Speaker 2: for example, for elephants held at a sanctuary accredited by

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Speaker 2: the Global Federation of Animal Sanctuaries. If the sanctuary has

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Speaker 2: not been accredited, it must allow elephants to quote exercise

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Speaker 2: their autonomy and prohibits elephants from being put on display, bred,

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Speaker 2: or housed in settings that do not closely resemble their

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Speaker 2: natural habitat. But what happens if that's how they're exercising

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Speaker 2: their autonomy as well? Whatever you think about giving legal

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Speaker 2: rights to elephants. You have to admit that calling a

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Speaker 2: because if you really think elephants have the right to

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Speaker 2: bodily liberty, even the nicest animal sanctuary is still a

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Speaker 2: prison of sorts. Thanks to listener Shane Norwood for sending

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Speaker 2: us that story. This week, we've got Hooters, mules, legislation,

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Speaker 2: and the mail bag. But first I'm going to tell

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Speaker 2: you about my week. And my week was, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just a hustle, lot's going on. It was, you know,

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Speaker 2: the pheasant and antelope opening season, which is something Snort

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Speaker 2: and I are real, real big fans of. I got

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Speaker 2: sick as a dog had a shootout in Wyoming. Snort

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Speaker 2: got sick, was puking all over the place. And my

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Speaker 2: grandmother died, Marion Walton, which sucks only in the fact

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Speaker 2: that I can't call her up and ask about a

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Speaker 2: recipe or all manner of like home diy things that

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Speaker 2: she was good about, like how to cut glass. And

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Speaker 2: we also can't argue about what is actually a word

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Speaker 2: in scrabble. I can and really should go on and

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Speaker 2: on about this lady, but pertin into this podcast. My

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Speaker 2: grandmother was born October twelve, nineteen twenty eight. That's the

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Speaker 2: time of Zeppelin travel, not the band. FDR and Hoover

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Speaker 2: are campaigning for president, and it's still the Great Depression.

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Speaker 2: Hard scrabble folks familiar with all the off cuts of

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Speaker 2: for pheasant, trout, smelt, rabbit, gizzards or liver, and she'd

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Speaker 2: It was to eat what's on your plate, say please,

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Speaker 2: Then help clean up and cheat at scrabble, which she

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Speaker 2: One of the best memories of this lady was only

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Speaker 2: I honestly think this lady was a certifiable genius based

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Speaker 2: standing on the banks of the Boulder River in mid July, Montana.

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Speaker 2: I was well prepared because years ago I had made

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Speaker 2: repeat what I had the day before. Rod tip high

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Speaker 2: Now Granny was an angler. She was super proud about

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Speaker 2: And sure enough, after only half a dozen casts, she

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Speaker 2: when you're my age and you want to learn something,

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Speaker 2: to waste. We were really fortunate that day. The Boulder

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Speaker 2: Granny got a couple of eats. I kept changing flies

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Speaker 2: effects were immediate, so much so that when Granny couldn't

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Speaker 2: imagining having to explain the drowning of a frail old

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you that, no matter how old you get,

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Speaker 2: perfectly matching Granny's hook set, and we had a fish

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Speaker 2: It was amazing. But to let you down full disclosure,

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Speaker 2: and she was right. So here's some takeaways. Don't listen

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Speaker 2: it's best to not be a picky eat and barred

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Speaker 2: to frogs, to crayfish. Barreed owls can also be territorial

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Speaker 2: endangered spotted owl population. Spotted owls are less aggressive and

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Speaker 2: more specialized eaters, and they often can't compete when barred

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Speaker 2: owls move into an area. The problem was so bad,

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Speaker 2: in fact, that federal wildlife officials in the US and

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Speaker 2: Canada have lethally removed bared owls from the landscape. That

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Speaker 2: strategy has been controversial but appears to be effective. According

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Speaker 2: stabilized in areas where barred owls were removed, but continued

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Speaker 2: to decline by twelve percent per year in areas where

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Speaker 2: bar owls were not removed. This is why Wyoming ornithologists

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Speaker 2: much research on how gray owls and barred owls interact,

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Speaker 2: so biologists will have to monitor the situation closely. Comparing

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Speaker 2: gray owls look more like spotted owls than bared owls.

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Speaker 2: They feed on mainly small mammals like voles and gophers,

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Speaker 2: and only rarely branch out to frogs. A species survival

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you very interesting proposal here, Washingtonians. I'd

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Speaker 2: City and state officials approved a proposal to allow three

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Speaker 2: in Mill Creek Metro Park. As we've covered on this

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Speaker 2: podcast before, this is a common way that metro areas

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Speaker 2: manage an overabundance of deer. Hunting is not usually allowed

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Speaker 2: in city parks, but this year archery and gun hunters

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Speaker 2: will be permitted to take six antlerless deer each that

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Speaker 2: won't count against their usual bag limits. The park will

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Speaker 2: be open during archery season, but close during gun hunts.

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Speaker 2: There's usually some amount of local controversy around these hunts,

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Speaker 2: but in this case the opposition is serious. Opponents of

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Speaker 2: the hunt say in a petition that they've worried about

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Speaker 2: hunters accidentally injuring pets and children. On the campaign's GoFundMe,

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Speaker 2: which has raised over eleven thousand dollars, they argue that

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Speaker 2: seeing deer helps relieve anxiety. Quote neighbors close to our

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Speaker 2: park can sit on their deck sip their coffee, and

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Speaker 2: enjoy the breathtaking deer should they make it appearance. These

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Speaker 2: folks have already tried and failed to stop the hunt

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Speaker 2: in county court, but now they've threatened to appeal that

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Speaker 2: loss to a higher court. James tells me that there's

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Speaker 2: also a Facebook group where opponents are threatening to throw

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Speaker 2: firecrackers in the hunting zones and use portable speakers to

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Speaker 2: scare deer away from hunters. This Facebook group has since

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Speaker 2: been deleted, probably because members were openly plotting to break

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Speaker 2: the law. For any of you planning to participate in

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Speaker 2: the Mill Creek deer hunt, here's a little info that

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Speaker 2: might come in handy. Section one five three three point

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Speaker 2: zero three of the Ohio Revised Code prohibits hunter harassment.

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Speaker 2: This includes placing oneself in a location that might affect

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Speaker 2: the behavior of wildlife or quote creating a visual, oral, olfactory,

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Speaker 2: or physical stimulus intended to affect the behavior of the

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Speaker 2: wild animal being hunted. In other words, it's illegal in

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Speaker 2: Ohio to intentionally scare deer away from lawful hunters. Under

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Speaker 2: this statute, hunters have the ability to secure a restraining

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Speaker 2: order against people who engage in this kind of behavior.

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Speaker 2: That's all I've got for you this week. Thank you

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