1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: The World's of Vigeon podcast. 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 3: I don't think people gave enough credence to just how 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 3: bad the defense was last year. I mean, it was 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: like the bane of my existence at times watching the 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: film back, you know they're going out and they're adding 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 3: guys that I'm sorry, you're not gonna draft them to 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: your fantasy team. This is real football, right Like, this 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: is where the game is won and lost. 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 4: All know, we're saying, and I didn't want to put 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 4: my nose up. Who are you getting in the fourth 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 4: pick that's going to be better than AJ Brown? 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 5: Right now? 16 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 4: No, nor next year. 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: It concerns me that Kyle doesn't see him as a file. 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 4: It concerns me that Kyle doesn't see him the way 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: I do. This is not a small statement. That was 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 4: the worst offensive line I've ever seen that day they 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 4: played the Patriots last year. That was the worst offensive 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 4: line was doing. That's part of my reasoning here. They 23 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 4: couldn't even block the gunner. That's the worst offensive line 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 4: performance I've ever I just and I just knock them out. 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: What I do, Like, there's nobody that knows fullbacks better 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: than that guy. 27 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 4: No one has lost more big games than that guy, 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 4: he says. 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 6: So my problem bothered. 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 7: This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website. 31 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 5: For deals, buy a Toyota dot com. 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 6: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is a big 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 6: Thursday here at Jilletts Stadium. Right off the bat, I 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 6: just want to let everyone know what's going on obviously 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 6: this show. Uh At one o'clock, we'll have a live 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 6: press conference from the gpah Troom here at je Lette Stadium. 37 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 6: It'll be Robert Krafft, Mike Rabel, Elliott Wolf and all 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 6: the free agents that are around today. They'll be coming 39 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 6: up to the podium. So we'll go to that live 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 6: at one o'clock. When it's done, we'll come back to 41 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 6: the show and we'll just keep going. We'll have reactions, 42 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 6: So look forward to us going beyond two o'clock today, 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 6: and who knows, maybe we'll have a guest. Oh, you 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 6: never know, maybe somebody will stop by today. I don't know, 45 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 6: but it's a big show, so very exciting, but also 46 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 6: breaking news this morning. Bittersweet news. I guess there's nothing 47 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 6: sweet about it, but I guess, yeah, you could say 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 6: it's bittersweet. I mean, he had a great career. David 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 6: Andrews has been released by the Patriots. What's the next 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 6: step for him? I don't know for sure, don't know 51 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 6: what he's thinking, but he is he has been released 52 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 6: by the Patriots. So reaction. It's Evan, it's Paul, it's Duced, 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 6: it's Alex, it's Matt Nabooth. 54 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 8: The reaction, I think is just I think there are 55 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 8: certain guys that just embody what the Patriots kind of 56 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 8: stood for being an undrafted free agent coming here, getting 57 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 8: a starting job, you know, being a part of two 58 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 8: Super Bowl teams. I you know, wrote up a little 59 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 8: thing about him. I found a quote from Bill Belichick 60 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 8: a couple of years ago, just praising him for his toughness, 61 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 8: his leadership. And that's just been a consistent theme for 62 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 8: the whole time I've been here in the locker room, 63 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 8: hearing guys talk about David Andrews missed most of last year, 64 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 8: had health concerns. I mean I remember him saying, I 65 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 8: hope that the surgery gives me a chance to play. 66 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 8: So I don't know how much the injuries playing into 67 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 8: that as well, but he's you know, you just have 68 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 8: to tip your cap to him. He gave everything he 69 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 8: could to this organization. It's it's sad that it's ending, 70 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 8: but he's been just a legendary leader here, you know, 71 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 8: for this team and meant so much. So it's it's sad, 72 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 8: but you know, you got to praise his career because 73 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 8: he did a lot. 74 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 4: Great story and I thought Devin mccordy tweeted about it 75 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: a little earlier when he found out the News played 76 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 4: every snap of that preseason preseason Yeah back in whatever 77 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 4: it was fifteen. Is that his rookie year and that's 78 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: how he made the team and carved out a role 79 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: and you know, emerged as the starting center for a 80 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: long time undersized guy. You know at times, you know, 81 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: had trouble with some of the bigger, more talented interior 82 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 4: defensive lineman. You know, Quinn Williams with the Jets was 83 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: one who doesn't but yeah, exactly, and just competed, you know, 84 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 4: throughout his career. And I think Mike is right about 85 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 4: you know, this captains and this leaders. But I think 86 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 4: David Andrews a little different in that regard. I think 87 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 4: he was, you know, at a special level like a 88 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 4: Matthew Slater almost, you know, in terms of leadership. So 89 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: they'll miss him, I think a lot more off the 90 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: field at this stage of his career. And I'm a 91 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: little surprised they didn't give him an opportunity to show 92 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 4: that maybe he could still be a viable option at center. 93 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 4: But if it's a pure football thing, I'm not gonna 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 4: sit here and you know, curl up in the fetal 95 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: position in the corner and say what did they do 96 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 4: to David Andrews. I think they're going to miss a 97 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: lot more than just the football though. 98 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 9: I just say one more thing. 99 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 8: I just how many guys can go from being an 100 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 8: undraft the rookie to a captain, you know, in their 101 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 8: second season. I mean that's just it's a kind of 102 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 8: unheard of and it's just that speaks how specially was Yep. 103 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, perfect offensive lineman, like just exactly what you think 104 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: of that position. Leadership, toughness, Uh, sets a tone, you know. 105 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: It's one of those guys that always would you know, 106 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: I would have the quarterbacks back, like someone hits the 107 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 3: quarterback late first one in there is six. Yeah, just 108 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: an old school, hard nosed guy. Not a ton of 109 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 3: those guys types of guys left. 110 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 6: So has he said anything? 111 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: He hasn't. 112 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: You know, he has that podcast now with Brian Hoyer, 113 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: So maybe I think there's a They were kind of 114 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: teasing on Twitter that maybe they were going to do 115 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 3: a show about it. So I think that you know 116 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: that's coming potentially, But just it's a tough spot to 117 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 3: be in for the team because I do think he 118 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: was starting to show some decline in his play even 119 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: before the injury last year, and then you pile the 120 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 3: injury on it. But there's always this line to walk of. 121 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: This is a great Patriot, you know, this is a 122 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: this is a guy that I think you might be 123 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 3: in the Patriots Hall of Fame down the line. And 124 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: so then you put that into it, You're it's not 125 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: just simply a football decision. You're you're you're releasing somebody 126 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: from the organization that means a lot. 127 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, off the field too, like I can definitely speak 128 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 10: to countless visits to children's hospitals, bowling fundraisers that benefit 129 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 10: Boston Children's pancake breakfasts at domestic violence shelters. I mean, 130 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 10: you could put David Andrews in any room and he 131 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 10: would talk to someone like he was just a guy 132 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 10: who's so down to earth and just so cool and 133 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 10: funny and like the lowest points of the season, you 134 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 10: could go to da for a stupid TikTok or to 135 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 10: go speak at podium, you know, and he was just 136 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 10: that guy for them, and it's just lost a real one, reliable. 137 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 6: Yeah. I wonder the reason I asked, has he said anything? 138 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 6: I just wonder how much he's going to give Dante 139 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 6: Scerneki a credit for his development, because you know, we 140 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 6: talk about, like, boy, you know, how rare is it 141 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 6: for that undrafted guy to emerge, become a starter his 142 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 6: whole career and be the captain. And you know, we 143 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 6: were talking on Tuesday about Wineman and how yeah, you 144 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 6: got to get him in, but you got to develop 145 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 6: these guys. You got to get him playing as a unit. 146 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 6: And I wonder how much Scarnakia helped him become who 147 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 6: he is in the NFL. 148 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, when I wrote the Scarnacia going into the Hall 149 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: of Fame of Patriots Hall of Fame, I David Andrews 150 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: is one of the persons people that I spoke to, 151 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: and he couldn't have been more complimentary of Scar and 152 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 3: told some great stories about him. So that's on the website. 153 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 6: And so the second part of that is if David 154 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 6: Andrews came into our life two years ago, would he 155 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 6: have been able to do when he did? 156 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 11: That's a great question. 157 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it's impossible to know. 158 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: And I understand exactly where you're going. 159 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 6: You know where I'm going. 160 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: So I would just say that I think David Andrews 161 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 4: didn't get drafted because he wasn't quite big enough. I 162 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: think he played at Georgie, he played at a very 163 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 4: high level in college. He did and probably had an 164 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 4: awful lot of ability, but was underside. 165 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 6: Good pedigree too few of Dan Reeves absolutely so. 166 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 4: But I think, you know, just wasn't quite big enough. Now, 167 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: this is why I said, I think I know where 168 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: you're going, like we Will Campbell's arms don't quite big enough. 169 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 6: Like well, it wasn't. 170 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 4: Necessarily he does have the ability. Obviously, Will Campbell is 171 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: talented enough to play in the NFL. 172 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 6: You got it half right. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't. 173 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 6: Will Campbell specific, it was just if you get solid 174 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 6: guys who are coachable, five good players there and have 175 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 6: a base of talent, you can make a good offensive line. 176 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 6: You don't necessarily look, it always helps to have Orlando 177 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 6: Brown or Tyron Smith, but you don't have to have 178 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 6: those guys to have a good line. 179 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, I just thought it was interesting just to tie 180 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 8: it to Washington. I think we all talked about I'm 181 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 8: forgetting the name of the rookie tackle that they drafted 182 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 8: last year and play left Coleman, but they still felt 183 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 8: the need to go up and kind of upgrade him. 184 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 9: Wonder how he's gonna be. 185 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: He wasn't good, He's going to move inside. It sounds 186 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: like the guard, which is what a lot of people 187 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: thought coming out. Same with Kayden Wallace. So I hear 188 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: a Fred saying, though, you know, good coaching, five good guys, 189 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: five coachable guys, I would take five David Andrews Scenarioy like, 190 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: you know it just not every guy is wired like that. 191 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 3: You know, he was truly wired with a motor like 192 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 3: that guy. Every single play emptied the tank consistently, and 193 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: he's a really good player. I mean, he turned out 194 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: to be a really good player. 195 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 5: Yep. 196 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 8: I think one of my favorite just visual memories from 197 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 8: David Andrews was in that Kansas City AFC Championship game, 198 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 8: raving buy as soon as they ran it in and 199 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 8: he's doing elaborate in front of the. 200 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: Field, you know that. 201 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's not always one to talk to the fans 202 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 6: like that in but that game, like it was such 203 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 6: a hard fought game, and oh it was just this 204 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 6: release of emotion. And for everybody after. 205 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 4: That, is that the year at the parade that he 206 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: went shirtless parade. 207 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 9: Always I don't know. I didn't I didn't get to 208 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 9: go to the parade. So they did go to the 209 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 9: Super Bowl parade. 210 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,479 Speaker 4: Fred and I usually anchored the parade coverage from right here, and. 211 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 6: I've never been to one parade. 212 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 4: Do not go to the tu duck boat that they did, 213 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: but we're just not on it. 214 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 9: No, it was on its scale. 215 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 4: We're working. 216 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, you double fisting. 217 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 9: The content to drink on a duck boat. 218 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: I was on the boat. 219 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 6: See this guy's on a duck boat. 220 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: He was on the p U duck boat before he 221 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: was even remembered. 222 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 6: Was that the clinics at the time, it got a 223 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 6: whole boat. They had their own duck boat. 224 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: The station got the road on the duck boat. It 225 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: was cool. 226 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 10: I was standing on the Boston Commons very as a fan, right. 227 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, very drong. 228 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: It was cool to like, you know, it was not 229 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: only like one or two people, but some people like 230 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: saw me like that. I was actually friends with that. 231 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 3: My friends were in the crowd and they were like, 232 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 3: how did he get out of that boat? 233 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 8: They told me to come to the stadium, and here 234 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 8: I am, because. 235 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 6: We're going down a rabbit hole. But we rate everything. 236 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 6: We have lists. I wonder if there's someone who's qualified 237 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 6: to rate the Patriots parades. 238 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 8: Wow, it's a good question out to the city of 239 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 8: Boston for you know, what the traffic and arrest were like. 240 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 6: That probably be some good days. 241 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 10: The arrested for standing on an ambulance shout out, Billy. 242 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: Wasn't that all of them though? So that's Ernie Adams. 243 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe Ernie Adams was at all of them. He 244 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: might be someone, Yeah, yeah. 245 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 6: I could. Some people that work here might be able to. 246 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: I'm sure everybody that's been here as long as we 247 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: have would be able to do that. 248 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 9: YouTube depressed guys like everyone's at a. 249 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 4: Party one year and I don't I don't remember which 250 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 4: one it was, but there was one year that like 251 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 4: there was so little movement in the admin level that 252 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: the lights were We're working on the paper. 253 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 8: Right and you're just throwing your hands up every time, 254 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 8: like we're working up and we're watching on TV and 255 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 8: then we see a duck balls, like why the hell 256 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 8: are they? 257 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 6: That was like the departments on a boat, you know, 258 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 6: the parking department. But I guess it was good that 259 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 6: people did get to know absolutely that they should get there. 260 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 6: You know, it's not really sour Graves. 261 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: And if we could have been there if we wanted to. 262 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 4: It's not like we weren't invited. 263 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 8: You know, like a live cast during like just on 264 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 8: the on the boat that was from the boat. 265 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: And we've talked about. 266 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 9: That in my pitch next year, next year, next week. 267 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 4: We've talked about it. It's not really we have the technology, yeah, 268 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 4: but the boat camp it. 269 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 10: Would be a music an issue with the music and licensing. 270 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: Like like the Celtics did it for their parade back 271 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 4: in eight and it was a mess because they you know, 272 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: like that's their station. So there's just too much. 273 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 10: You probably haven't a stationary set, like not really on 274 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 10: the duck boat, but kind of how like like ron 275 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 10: or See Burton does his thing during parades like there, 276 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 10: or like the Macyz Parade where the anchors are just 277 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 10: kind of sitting there. 278 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 6: You have one duck boat. On the top of it 279 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 6: is a desk, a literal desk desk. We're standing sitting 280 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 6: behind it like going down the streets. 281 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: It's kind of a marathon, the marathon every year, right, 282 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: so I understand why a million two million people would 283 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 4: go to the parade like cool, Like if if I 284 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 4: was like twenty, I wouldn't miss it for the world, 285 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: you know, the marathon. I'm going to be on the 286 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 4: side of the road and I'm going to have a 287 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 4: couple of beers. I'm going to enjoy the day and 288 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 4: watch the runners go by. Am I going to spend 289 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 4: thirty seconds watching it on TV? When I'm not experiencing it? 290 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 4: Like it's not like an that you that's something you 291 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 4: need to catch on TV, you know, It's like that. 292 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 4: I never understood the wh Celtics thing when they did that. 293 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 4: They have never felt Felger was like throwing it back 294 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 4: to Greg Diggerson and like it was such a mess, 295 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 4: and I'm like, who's watching this? 296 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 8: It'd be funny though with like just stick like Evan 297 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 8: on one of the boats and and just go to 298 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 8: him from time to time. 299 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 9: But let him, i know, have a couple of bud 300 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 9: lights while he's on there. 301 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 12: All right, We'll going back to Evan. 302 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 8: And you know it's slowly he's descending into just madness. 303 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 4: Watching the twenty four. 304 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 9: It's like I'm on the twenty twenty six. 305 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 6: Mother. 306 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was at the Celtics parade this past Celtics 307 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: Championship and like it had been a while. What is 308 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: Boston I know, but like it had been a minute 309 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: since they had won a major sports title, and like 310 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: it kind of felt like some of those older ones 311 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 3: because there was kind of a break and winning and 312 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: it was really cool, like there was there was a 313 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: ton of people. I mean, I think it was like 314 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: a million and a half people in the city that day. 315 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 6: So, yeah, I can see Evan. Is that Alex Barth's 316 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 6: body surfing down Newberry Street? 317 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 8: Oh that's the play that you're giving that you're giving 318 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 8: the sports up. Another gem of Barth on the Barth 319 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 8: on a duck boat getting drunk. 320 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 6: No one wants to see that, all right. So, but 321 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 6: we were talking about David Andrews. 322 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 10: One more thing on David before we move on, is 323 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 10: like we've been talking a lot about like guys not 324 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 10: wanting to come to New England and this and that, 325 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 10: and like it's not desirable, but like it was so 326 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 10: cool to see him and his wife Mackenzie like totally 327 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 10: embrace it here, like they became New Englanders. They were 328 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 10: vacationing in Chatham. Like it's just nice to see, you know, 329 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 10: like they really appreciated the region and everything it had 330 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 10: to offer and just I don't know, it's just you 331 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 10: don't always see that, you know. 332 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 8: So with a lot of ducks and turkeys around here, 333 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 8: I think that was part of the draw. 334 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure, that population will be. 335 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 4: There's a lot of guys. Alex makes a good point. 336 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 4: And I do think that the Boston area in general, 337 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 4: in all four sports, well, I would say the three sports. 338 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: I think probably hockey is different play the other three. 339 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 4: I think they sometimes have a hard time attracting high 340 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: end free agent talent, but once they get it, yeah, 341 00:15:59,440 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: they love it. 342 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 10: Yeah for sure. 343 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: And like Kevin Garnett famously did not want to get 344 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: traded to the Celtics, and now he loves everything about Boston. 345 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 10: And I don't know if you guys heard too, Mookie 346 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 10: Bets pretty recently was on a podcast just glowing about 347 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 10: how much he loved the city and loved being here. 348 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 10: And it's just like, I don't understand how it gets 349 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 10: such a bad especially if you have. 350 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 13: It. 351 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 10: But it's also cold in Buffalo and in like the. 352 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 4: Minnesota, Buffalo attracts talent. 353 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 10: Well no, but like it's not that. 354 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 8: Cold, like grow up, I mean all the other stuff 355 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 8: like aside, Like I just think you have to it's 356 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 8: not for everybody, but you have to respect the fans 357 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 8: here that the fans care and there. I mean, I 358 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 8: lived in California for a while. It saw kind of 359 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 8: a contrast of you know, not having sports radio drive 360 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 8: conversation and you know, so when people come here like 361 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 8: Kevin Garnett, who be you know, maybe a little skeptical, 362 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 8: but then they're embraced by the city. 363 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 4: But it's not easych it matters to the city and 364 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: I would think that would be a great environment to 365 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 4: play in any of the sports because really it's all 366 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: for the sports. The fans really are invested in they 367 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: care about the success. 368 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 10: And you can't tell me there's a better place to 369 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 10: be the New England in the fall. And frankly I 370 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 10: lean that way for the summer too. I think there's 371 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 10: no way better place to be than like the summer anyway. 372 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 6: And you really are you know, if you're Kevin Garnett, 373 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 6: you're a big fish in a smaller pond, you know. 374 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 4: Well, that's part of what they don't like too much. 375 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 4: Sometimes you can't lose because those guys go out in 376 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 4: Boston and they're immediately notice where they go out in 377 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 4: New York. That's true, and no one notices it's get. 378 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 9: The private room upstairs. 379 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 6: That's true. 380 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 10: Well yeah, yeah, they all have their at the clubs, 381 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 10: in the restaurants. 382 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: But I think that is a bit especially for the basketball. 383 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: You're at a bar in Boston and Jason Tatum, like 384 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 3: everyone's going to know it's Jason Tatum, right, So like 385 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 3: you can't really La New York. 386 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 4: You can Miami, but it's only they just blend. 387 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 6: Like those are like the only three places that happen. 388 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 6: Maybe Chicago, Yeah that's it. 389 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think it's more also like in those 390 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 3: places there's other celebrities, right, So, like he's got Keith Lockhart, 391 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: and famous is Jason Tatum is Like it might be 392 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 3: somebody that's even more famous that he's with, you know, 393 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: that is drawing all the attention. But this is the 394 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: last thing on David Andrews. I. 395 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 6: Oh, you're you're saying that this is the last thing. 396 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: He wants to get back. 397 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, get back to football. I don't know if this 398 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: is the end for him in terms of retirement, but 399 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: he has talked a lot about like he's gonna be 400 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: around the game post playing career. I would not be 401 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: surprised if he gets into coaching, Like I wouldn't be 402 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: surprised if if he's an offensive line coach someday, you know, 403 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: not right away. But he's definitely said that he doesn't 404 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 3: think that he could be away from the game for 405 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: too long. You know, he's got that itch to still 406 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: be coaching. 407 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 6: Disaster two years ago, we were told that he was 408 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 6: actually a de facto coach. 409 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's why I'm kind of surprised, Like they didn't, 410 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 10: just like Paul was saying earlier, give him a shot 411 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 10: at least, like at least to camp to prove himself 412 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 10: see if he still has it in the tank and 413 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 10: then be kind of like that James Farrens type role, 414 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 10: like kind of player Coachy. 415 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 4: I don't know, ironically, he may and I don't know 416 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 4: exactly how this is going to play out or who's 417 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 4: going to win the job, but he may have really 418 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 4: trained his replacement with Cole Strange. He you know, he 419 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 4: spent a lot of time with Cole Strange, say last 420 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 4: October November as as Cole was coming back from his 421 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: injury and training him to play center. And he played 422 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 4: what the last two games, three. 423 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 6: Games yea LUs two starts. 424 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: So I mean I would think right now he would 425 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 4: be the leader in the clubhouse on the depth chart. 426 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 4: And I don't know if Ben Brown would be ahead 427 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: of him because he played more games, but I would 428 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 4: lean to Cole Strange. 429 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 6: Dave wants to know, Dave O'Neill, is Jake Andrews still 430 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 6: on the team. 431 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 9: He is, He's another low ranking option. 432 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 8: I mean, I think the interesting thing to me is 433 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 8: you look at Ben Brown and Cole Strange seem kind 434 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 8: of different dudes. You know, Cole Strange seems a little 435 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 8: bit more athletic. Ben Brown seems a little bit more big. 436 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 8: I'd love to know how they view those guys. We 437 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 8: only saw Jake Andrews I think two years ago as 438 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 8: a guard. We didn't see him. I think he was 439 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 8: kind of seen as a center, as a kind of 440 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 8: a pure center initially, so he's only a center in college. Yeah, 441 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 8: so they have some options to consider. It's not like 442 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 8: it's we got nobody, but you don't. You just don't 443 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 8: know what those guys. They might not think anything of 444 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 8: those guys. 445 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 5: I don't know. 446 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: I mean Jake Andrews was drafted to be David Andrews's replacement. 447 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: Like you don't draft a center in the fourth round 448 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: to not, you know, play down the line. So that 449 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 3: was Bill's plan at the time, was to draft Jake 450 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: Andrews and have him study under David Andrews for a 451 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 3: year or two and then pass the torch. But he 452 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: hasn't been able to. 453 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 8: He's almost, I would say, like David Andrews in the 454 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 8: sense of smaller athletic wrestling background. You know, like all 455 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 8: three of those guys are, they just each have a 456 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 8: different flavor. 457 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 3: The wrestling background was the big one with Jake Andrews. 458 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: I think I did the profile on him coming out. 459 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: So this is all coming back to me now. And 460 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 3: Jake Andrews like big wrestler, like state champion wrestler, and 461 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 3: you know, grappling and leverage and all that kind of buzzwords. 462 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, Jacket and ABA wants to know what Andrews leaving 463 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 6: does that affect the draft? Is it more likely now 464 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 6: that they'll trade down to get more picks. 465 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 9: I don't think so. 466 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 8: I mean, I definitely think it puts center more on 467 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 8: the you know, on the menu. But like we said, 468 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 8: they do have some options. I mean maybe, for all 469 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 8: I know, they could say col Strange is gonna be 470 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 8: a really good center. We believe in him. 471 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 6: I don't. 472 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 8: I don't know if that's the case or not, but 473 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 8: I think center you got to consider it as part 474 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 8: of it. 475 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 4: I don't think you need to trade down. I think 476 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 4: Evan just explained it. You know, Jake Andrews was probably 477 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 4: drafted with that thought in mind. That's a Day three pick, 478 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: and I think they have a handful of Day three perck. 479 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 4: I think they have three. They have three seventh rounders, 480 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 4: you know, and I'm not just saying, well, you can 481 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 4: just draft a guy in the seventh round and there 482 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 4: you go. No, like but back to Fred's theory of 483 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 4: you draft a guy fifth, sixth, seventh round with the 484 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 4: idea of developing him. Yeah, and that's you know, you 485 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 4: have to hope that your coaching staff has improved, right, 486 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 4: they'll be able to do some of these things. Doug 487 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 4: Marrome will be able to develop some of these guys. 488 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 8: Then you reflect back on David Anders doing that as 489 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 8: an undrafted rookie. You know, it's not a position you're 490 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 8: counting on at all, and you know, to get that 491 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 8: kind of bonus, I just think it speaks overall to 492 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 8: the Patriots roster needs that they need a couple surprises, 493 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 8: like they need a couple guys that maybe we've given 494 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 8: up on, or players that are under the radar that 495 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 8: emerge in and play, you know, like it happens a 496 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 8: lot in the NFL. 497 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 9: I mean it's not common. 498 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 8: I know that those of those things are relatively rare, 499 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 8: but it does happen for each team you find those gems. 500 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 8: I mean, it's happened a bunch of times with this team. 501 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 9: It just hasn't happened lately. 502 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 8: There hasn't been you know, maybe Pop Douglas, but even 503 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 8: he was kind of highly regarded as a you know what, 504 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 8: he is, a little slot guy. 505 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 9: But you know, it's just been it's been too hard. 506 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 8: They've hit on their top picks the last couple of years, 507 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 8: but they've got to find more contributions from the lower 508 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 8: round guys. 509 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not too concerned about center in terms of 510 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: drafting it high or anything like that. I know, I 511 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 3: think center is one of those positions that I would 512 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 3: say is probably the easiest to replace on the offensive line, 513 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: just because you're uncovered a lot of the time, so 514 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: you're not actually going one on one against guys very often. 515 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 3: Especially nowadays, you know, there aren't a lot of true, 516 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: like true nose tackles like e Vince wik that's just 517 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 3: lining up over the center every single play. So I 518 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 3: don't have a ton of concern, Like you want somebody 519 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: obviously to procedurally can handle the position, snap the ball, 520 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 3: make the calls, all that kind of stuff, and then 521 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: ideally someone that can run block at a decent level. 522 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: But most of the time that those guys are you know, 523 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: you're half sliding, and you're sliding to help the guard 524 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 3: more more times than not than actually blocking somebody that's 525 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 3: head up over you. You know, if you're really rough 526 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 3: in pass protection, teams will target the center if that's 527 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: really a weak link. But you have to be, you know, 528 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: the worst guy on the line. I would say to 529 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 3: have them do that. 530 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 8: It's interesting just to think about Josh and how Josh 531 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 8: liked to have the quarterback make all the calls. Last 532 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 8: year with Alex van Pelt, the center was making the calls. 533 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 8: Is Josh going to revert back to that or you know, 534 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 8: I think part of the least initial appeal with having 535 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 8: David Andrews back was well, you know, it's Josh and 536 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 8: I don't know what the offense is going to be, 537 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 8: but you at least know that they have an established relationship. 538 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 8: He understands how Josh wants things to run. What's going 539 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 8: to happen this year? You know, is it going to 540 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 8: be put on Drake Man? Is it going to potentially, 541 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 8: you know, stick with Ben Brown or whoever ends up there. 542 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 8: But I was gonna ask you, just like, what were 543 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 8: your impressions last year of Ben Brown and Cole Strange 544 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 8: when you were when you broke down those guys. 545 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Ben Brown started well and then kind 546 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: of fizzled out towards the end. I think he got 547 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: banged up a little bit and some injuries might have contributed. 548 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 3: But run blocking is a big guy like you mentioned, 549 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: so I think he can move people in the run game, 550 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 3: but he struggled a little bit in pass protection later 551 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: on and as the year progressed. I had a couple 552 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: of rough games down the stretch there before the injury, 553 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 3: and with Cole Strange, I think the biggest thing with 554 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 3: him is just leverage. Like center is a position that 555 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: you want to play low, you want to be underneath people, 556 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 3: and he's a little bit tall, in a little bit 557 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: wiry for center, so like that would just be the 558 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: one concern you mentioned Jake Andrews. Like Jake Andrews is 559 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: like a block right, Like he's like a low to 560 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: the ground kind of guy. Same with David Andrews. So 561 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 3: I think both those guys can can play center adequately. 562 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that I'm crazy gung ho either one 563 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 3: of them is going to be anything close to elite 564 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: at that position, but I don't think that they're completely 565 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 3: written off either. 566 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 5: D In. 567 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 6: Where's he from? I think he's from Australia. Yeah, No, 568 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 6: Dana Virginia, Michigan's unless the team knows that Andrews is retiring. 569 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 6: It's a classless move to cut someone who has been 570 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 6: a class act both on and off the field, which 571 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 6: made him one of the few bright spots in recent years, 572 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 6: a year in the right to at least be given 573 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 6: the chance to show he could still do it. I 574 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 6: don't know the details. I got a feeling that this 575 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 6: is mutual, This is a true mutual parting of ways. 576 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 6: Maybe I don't know. 577 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 4: I don't know about that, but we'll find out, and 578 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 4: I will say that financially, I mean again, I don't 579 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 4: know the details, but financially it would seem that this 580 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 4: is better for David Andrews, Like, if he has to 581 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 4: announce his retirement, then he's not going to get whatever 582 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 4: money is owed to him because he's forfeiting that, and 583 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 4: by releasing him, financially it probably is better for David. 584 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 5: Right. 585 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 4: But I'm not sure that he wanted to I'm not 586 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 4: he might retire, but I'm not sure he wanted to retire. 587 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 10: I think he's the type of guy that just wanted 588 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 10: to go till the wheels literally fell off. 589 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 4: Do you remember when, like in the podcast, with Brian, 590 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 4: Like during the season he said, my goal is to 591 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 4: have this surgery so I have a chance to play. 592 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 4: So hard to believe that something changed between say November 593 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 4: and now. 594 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 10: It was really important to him that his son's got 595 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 10: to see him play too, and I know his little toddler, 596 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 10: Ford kind of did. I don't know if he's old 597 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 10: enough to understand, but he has a newborn too. I 598 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 10: think maybe like not. 599 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 8: Even got about seven more years and is gonna remember anything. 600 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 4: He had the newborn during camp. I think he missed 601 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 4: a couple of days. 602 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 6: Anthony writes in First Sat to see Andrews grow go 603 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 6: pretty surprised by the move and seems like they just 604 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 6: must be doing him a solid by giving him the 605 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 6: chance to go to a contender. Can't see the justification otherwise. Second, 606 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 6: I'm very much biased as a Michigan dirt, but have 607 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 6: spent time in New England in the summer, and I'll 608 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 6: say this, Alex, you can't beat Michigan in the fall summer. 609 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 6: We have all the foliage of New England, Superior beaches 610 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 6: as their fresh water in Detroit and Grand Rapids. If 611 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 6: you want some city life, my fellow Michigan doors will 612 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 6: hopefully defend me on this Lake Michigan for July October 613 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 6: can't be beat. 614 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 10: I'm sure it's great, but like the ocean's the ocean. 615 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 6: Where do you go skiing up in Michigan. 616 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 4: I don't know if you're more of a if you're 617 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 4: more of a fresh water guy. We have that too, 618 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 4: We have we have great lot. 619 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 6: They don't have the Great Lakes, the Great Lakes. 620 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 4: If it's a fresh water, like, yeah, it's huge. 621 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 10: I really like Michigan, I really really do. But like 622 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 10: you can't say the foliage is as good because like 623 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 10: the mountains and the Berkshires, the White Mountains Vermont, like 624 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 10: you can't compare, like those compare, like it's just a 625 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 10: marvel in the. 626 00:27:59,119 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 14: Fall to. 627 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 10: Because the mass comes sponsor me. 628 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 6: We were talking about this before the show, talking about 629 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 6: the seasons and is it true that things happen in 630 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 6: the fall, spring, and summer but they happen over the winter. 631 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 8: It's a good question because we also like things happen 632 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 8: over the summer too, right, but not never really over 633 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 8: the fall. 634 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 9: We'll do that over the fall. 635 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 6: Or over the spring, over the now. 636 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 12: I don't know. 637 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 6: So anyway, I think wants to do with. 638 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 10: The school calendar, Like you have a long break in 639 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 10: the summer, you got a long break in the winter, 640 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 10: over the summer, over the. 641 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 4: Big day, their little show's history. They've rendered me speechless 642 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 4: for the first time in twenty plus years. 643 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 8: But they're both winter and summer, both little contained things 644 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 8: that you know, people try to do specific things during them. 645 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 8: So like over the summer, you're usually going on your vacations, 646 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 8: you're maybe going to the beach a lot. Over the winter, 647 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 8: you're maybe going on vacation or ski trips. 648 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 9: So I don't know. That's 'm spitballing here, all right. 649 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 6: Bill in San Diego says, maybe I missed something, But 650 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 6: has the door been officially shut on Strange competing for 651 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 6: the left guard spot. If so, why no one mentions 652 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 6: them anymore except to play center? 653 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 4: No strangers mentioned all the time? 654 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think those he could play in either of 655 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: those spots. 656 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think when before we knew that David 657 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 4: Andrews was going to get released, people said, is it 658 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 4: Cole Strange? 659 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 12: Is it City? 660 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 4: So Jake Andrews again, because he played a lot of 661 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 4: guard when he was a rookie. That's sort of I 662 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 4: think everyone always describes it as sort of a sneaky 663 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 4: need that people don't really talk about a lot, but 664 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 4: they don't. You know, Leyden Robinson is he Is he 665 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 4: going to be the left guard? They don't really. They 666 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 4: have a lot of bodies and a lot of options, 667 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 4: but no answers. And I think Cole Strange is one 668 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 4: of those bodies at both Guardian Center. Feels no answer. 669 00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 9: Creative one of them could could. 670 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like there's a chance that they look 671 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 3: at it and say, well, with better coaching with Josh McDaniels, 672 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: with Doug Moron, with Rabel that one of these recent 673 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: draft picks, we should be able to get one starter 674 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: out of Strange Robinson. So I maybe Jake Gantre, but 675 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 3: he hasn't been healthy, Like we should be able to 676 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: get one starter out of those three guys on the line, 677 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 3: and now you need two right unless you And this 678 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: is why I've been saying all along that I would 679 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: like to see them sign a veteran left guard and 680 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: just solidify that spotlight they did with right tackle, because 681 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: I think that's a risk. I think it's a risk 682 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: to say two spots on the interior are just going 683 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: to be kind of thrown to the wind, and you 684 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 3: hope that one of these guys is good enough to 685 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: play the position. I would like to see somebody there 686 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: with some experience. 687 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 6: So does this increase the likelihood of drafting Campbell knowing 688 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 6: that at least you're going to get a guard out 689 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 6: of them. 690 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 4: It could, It's possible. 691 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 692 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 9: I just I like what Evan's saying. 693 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 8: I mean, I was just thinking, perfect world, that Leyden 694 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 8: Robinson would come back and you know, be grow into 695 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 8: that role and just you know, to have a rookie 696 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 8: contract and a guy you've already worked with that I 697 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 8: think that's the ideal scenario. I just wonder where this 698 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 8: all these Kyden Wallace, you know, I don't know if 699 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 8: he has any potential to slide inside. Is he just 700 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 8: kind of going to be treading water behind Morgan Moses 701 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 8: until maybe he gets banged up, or you know, is 702 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 8: he going to have any kind of real opportunity because 703 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 8: I do think, like throw last year out, coming out 704 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 8: last year, King Wallace was seen as like a developmental 705 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 8: right tackle, you know, so maybe a guy maybe miscast 706 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 8: last year for somebody. 707 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, but you know that's. 708 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 4: What he was seen as a guy that went a 709 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 4: little too early, right, sure. 710 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 8: But now we're in year two and so maybe that 711 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 8: development does that start to kick in. We were asking 712 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 8: him to come in and be the left tackle last year. 713 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 8: That seeing sounds a little crazy, you know, but maybe 714 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 8: he maybe he maybe there's something there too. There's just 715 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 8: so much uncertainty. I can't imagine just releasing all of 716 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 8: those guards that they've drafted over the last couple of years. 717 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 8: They've really they can't all be missus, can they? 718 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 5: Like? 719 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 9: That's I guess when I'm where I'm landing. 720 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, in City so too played decent with Bill O'Brien 721 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: in a similar offense. And if they're gonna be more 722 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: of a downhill gap run scheme with McDaniels like he's 723 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: done in the past, I think those guys are better 724 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 3: fits in that type of scheme, you know, strange probably 725 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: better for zone. But Robinson so Wallace, like, those are 726 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: power blockers. Those are power oriented players, and if you 727 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: put them in downhill schemes and maybe they are serviceable 728 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: in some of those roles. I think Ken Wallace moving 729 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: inside was something that people thought maybe in the draft, 730 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: was going to happen to him. Anyways, in the NFL. 731 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 3: You know, it's flipping sides on top of that, but 732 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: there's a really good track record of moving college tackles 733 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 3: inside the guard ye and they're really high level pass 734 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: protectors because they're used to black blocking on the on 735 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 3: the outside. So maybe he can be one of those 736 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 3: guys that converts and plays guard. 737 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 6: Camel from Atlanta. Three things. I think Andrews is retiring 738 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 6: because of the Robert Craft statement and Mike that Mike 739 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 6: g Reaes put in his story that this could be 740 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 6: like when the Patriots released Julian Edelman. So remind me 741 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 6: of what that situation was like, do you remember. 742 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: I don't remember the exact details, but I think Paul 743 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 3: it had to do with money. 744 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 745 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 4: I think Paul going to say this, if David Andrews retires, 746 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 4: it's because he doesn't want to play for anybody but 747 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: the Patriots. I believe he still wants to play. That's 748 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 4: my feeling, and until I see something that he says, 749 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 4: concerts of that. That's what he has said, and I 750 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 4: think that it's very possible that he doesn't have interest 751 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 4: in playing for another team, so therefore he will retire 752 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 4: since that team then the only team that he wants 753 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 4: to play for doesn't want him. He's going to retire. 754 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 4: This is not Julian Edelman, Like. 755 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 3: I don't remember what Julian Edelman was like, Well, Julian 756 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: Edelman's knees gave out like he had. 757 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 4: But I also wonder, and he didn't want to play anymore. 758 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: Is there a chance that David and I'm just hypothetically, 759 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: is there a chance that David Andrews shoulder is not 760 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 3: bouncing back? 761 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 4: Yes? 762 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: Right, And just like Julian Edelman's knee did not bounce back, 763 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: you know, David Andrews is now recognizing he's gone through 764 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 3: some checkpoints with doctors and stuff like that, and they're 765 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 3: just like, it's just not. 766 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 4: Going to want to tell me this is physical. Then 767 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 4: I would absolutely listen. 768 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 3: That's the only way I would say what you said. 769 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 3: I would just you know, potentially be physically. 770 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: It could be just that he can't do it anymore 771 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 4: and he knows it. 772 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 6: Yeah. Kamel also wonders, how are we feeling that Joe 773 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 6: Cardona and Juwan Bentley if you count him, are the 774 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 6: only Dynasty players on the team now. 775 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 3: I kind of like it. Yeah, I think it's time. 776 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 3: Like I think it's time to happen eventually, right, And 777 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: I think that those guys, as great as all those 778 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 3: players were at a time, I think you were holding 779 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 3: on to something that just isn't doesn't exist anymore. 780 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 6: It doesn't help you, right, like Rabel said, yeah, it 781 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 6: doesn't help me, right. 782 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And I think that a lot of people, 783 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 3: you know, you'd hear a while well, back in the 784 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 3: good old days and we were winning super Bowls, and 785 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 3: it's like after a while, you know, you have to 786 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 3: have a new culture and you have to have. 787 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 8: A new I really like the move for Washington sign. 788 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 8: I mean that both future Wise and Jonathan Jones are 789 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 8: gone there, but I really like the Jonathan Jones move 790 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 8: for them. That feels like that team where they're trying 791 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 8: to go right now to get a versatile member of 792 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 8: their secondary can play a number of positions, has that leadership, 793 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 8: has the you know, the experience in big games that 794 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 8: I think that's a slam dunk for them. We'll see 795 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 8: how teachri Wise fits in, but. 796 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 4: But it's similar to what they did last year. They 797 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 4: made some moves that you know, obviously much more important, 798 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 4: like the quarterback, but they also had you know a 799 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 4: handful of sort of veteran guys that were past their 800 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 4: primes a little bit that they brought in and hopes 801 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 4: that Bobby Wagner would happen. You know, maybe they're hoping 802 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 4: Jonathan Jones can do that for their secondary sort of 803 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 4: not necessarily you know, become this pro Bowl level cornerback 804 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 4: that he's never really been, but just be a solid 805 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 4: piece playing communication guy, locker room guy. Jonathan Jones another 806 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 4: pretty you know, pretty solid character player. 807 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 10: No, we lost my three favorite players twenty four hours yesterday. 808 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:53,479 Speaker 4: We buried the league. 809 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 10: Mourning, I really am, Like, I mean, I get it, 810 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 10: but like I know, I will, but like d church 811 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 10: Wise and John Jones, especially d A two, but I 812 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 10: just have so much respect and appreciation for who they 813 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 10: are as people. And they're just such really really intelligent 814 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 10: guys and not just football intelligent, like real life intelligent. 815 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 10: Both of them I could talk to all day about history, food, 816 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 10: cult like just there's so much there. And they were 817 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 10: just great guys that you want in a locker room, like, 818 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 10: they have great values, they're great family men. Like it's 819 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 10: it's a loss for the locker room for Shure. 820 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 4: I didn't really think of it, but Alex, It's like 821 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 4: I don't really go in the locker room on a 822 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 4: regular basis anymore. Those are the last guys that I knew. 823 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 10: Like it's it's a loss that community too, Like John 824 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 10: and d Church especially, like they're not just like showing 825 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 10: up with a smile to these great events that the 826 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 10: foundation puts on, like they are in the grassroots planning 827 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 10: it themselves. Like John Jones did so much for our 828 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 10: local schools and our local kids. D Church wise, he 829 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 10: would a block party in Mattapan every year, and he 830 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 10: would bring in tens of thousands of dollars worth of 831 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 10: fresh produce and food and have just a free farmers 832 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 10: market for people in the community to just come take groceries. 833 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 10: And it's just like, I don't know, like so many 834 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 10: guys do great stuff in the community, but not at 835 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 10: the level that they were. And it's just they were 836 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 10: just so great to talk to. I'm really gonna miss them. 837 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 6: And then finally from Camel, I didn't get to watch 838 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 6: many Patriots games on TV. Was Jalen Hawkins good or bad? 839 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 9: I mean special team? Are fill in guy? 840 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 8: I mean yeah, yeah, depth signing, I like, I mean 841 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 8: good guy. I liked him I ran into cape Cod 842 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 8: before the season said I always thought always was kind 843 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 8: of rooting for him, but no good depth signing for them. Uh, 844 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 8: I just I gotta, I gotta piggyback though on Alis 845 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 8: as I did. Those guys are so interesting to me 846 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 8: because they came in to the Patriots dynasty. 847 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 9: They were part of success. 848 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 8: They had success, but then they were kind of the 849 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 8: guys that had to stand up and talk through all 850 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 8: the losing and the downward trends. And you know, Dietrich 851 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 8: Wise just you know, always a calm presence. I always 852 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 8: just love teacher Wise because his old you know, he 853 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 8: tap you on the shoulder and. 854 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 5: Walk by it. 855 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, just always fun, always willing to have a smile 856 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 8: with us. You know, got to know all of us 857 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 8: a little bit. 858 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 4: Still in Arkansas quarters it's a three quartership or a 859 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 4: quarter zip. 860 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 8: But I just echoing out said great guys, and they'll 861 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 8: be missed, no question. But I still fall with Evan. 862 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 8: I think it's time, you know, those guys saying what 863 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 8: do we have to do to be a championship team. 864 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 9: I don't think this new team. 865 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 8: Needs to hear about what we used to do when 866 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 8: we were the dynasty. Patriots, you know seven years ago. 867 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 8: It needs to be a new team that figures it 868 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 8: out on their own and isn't trying to live up 869 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 8: to a stand. 870 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 9: They're going to establish their own. 871 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 10: Self and I couldn't be happy, happier for them to 872 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 10: go to a really exciting team like the Commanders, and 873 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 10: I think they have a lot of value to add 874 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 10: to that locker room. And it's cool to see what 875 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 10: the Commanders have done this offseason. 876 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 6: Dano in Chicago. Grew up in Eastern mass but now 877 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 6: live in Chicago for several years, so I can speak 878 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 6: to both. I've visited both mass and Michigan in the 879 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 6: summer many times, but mass is far superior. Michigan is 880 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 6: probably the best summer spot in the Midway, but it 881 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 6: simply can't compete with Massachusetts, and Lake Michigan cannot compete 882 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 6: with the ocean. 883 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 10: When presidents and billionaires are vacationing in uh, Michigan, let 884 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 10: me know they don't have Nantucket or the Vineyard. 885 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I've I've tried to go to the Obama 886 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 3: State Martha's Vineyard and just like see if they'll let. 887 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 4: I would even say New England in general, the Bushes 888 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 4: in canabung Port. 889 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know this Taylor Swift and Rhode Island. 890 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 6: Plus where the Cradle of that's where Michigan has his feet. 891 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 6: They got him and. 892 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where he lives. That's where he's from from there. 893 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 5: He still live there. 894 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 4: But people I saw the movie, you know, they're not 895 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 4: even from Denim. They're even from here. Guy, they come 896 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 4: here vacation. That's a good flex right there. Obama grew 897 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 4: up in right. 898 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 10: I will adopt that point forever. 899 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 6: Yeah. 900 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, he goes to one of the restaurants on the 901 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 3: vineyard lookout tavern that that we go to a lot. 902 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 3: And one of these times I'm just like, can you 903 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 3: just like it would be hilarious if it's just like 904 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 3: Obama at the bar? You know it's Obama. Yeah, just 905 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 3: look at like the. 906 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 4: Rush right. 907 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 10: Course, which one skanky had it? Bill's a member there. 908 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 3: I'm not a Nantucket guy. 909 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 4: Okay, I've been on Nantucket. I've been at the Vineyard 910 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 4: nine thousand times. 911 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 10: You live show Live from Nantuck. 912 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 6: It's really cool. 913 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 4: I've been in it. 914 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 10: Type there, live show, Cisco, Live show, Cisco. 915 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 4: Let's do it. 916 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 3: There's more to do in Martha's Vineyard Yeah, it's like 917 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 3: one town center basically. 918 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 10: Well, if you're rich enough, there's a lot to do 919 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 10: on party comes to your house. 920 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 4: Although Wings was based in Nantucket. That's a great That 921 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 4: was a great sitcom. You like that, Scott the Scotts 922 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 4: at High It was. 923 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 9: On all the time. 924 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,720 Speaker 6: It was a great Joel and san Antonio as always, 925 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 6: thanks for the hard work keeping us entertained. Just want 926 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 6: to congratulate David Andrews on a stellar career. He's the 927 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 6: definition of a do your job type mentality. I really 928 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 6: wish him the best and I hope he gets a 929 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 6: red jacket someday. Hall of Famer Patriots Hall. 930 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 4: Of Fame's Patriot. 931 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 3: Is made for right. Yeah, guys like that. 932 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 5: I want that. 933 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 4: It'll push the other guys that belong in there. 934 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 6: Regarding the emailer about Michigan being better than mass during 935 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 6: the summer. 936 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 10: Well, Michigan's a great place. I don't want it to 937 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 10: be like. 938 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 6: I'm not from Massachusetts. I'm born and raised in Puerto Rican, 939 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 6: living in Texas for the past twenty years. I'll say this, 940 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 6: it doesn't matter how great the Great Lakes are. In 941 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 6: my book, the ocean will always be better. Yeah, we 942 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 6: have good rivers here that people go tubing in. We 943 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 6: have lakes to go swim and those are great. But 944 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 6: the ocean calls me every single time. That ocean, water, 945 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 6: the sand, the waves, it's just paradise. I agree, absolutely wholeheart. 946 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have some of the top beaches in the 947 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 3: entire country. Yes, on the islands and stuff. 948 00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 10: And Rhode Island too. 949 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 12: Yeah. 950 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 10: Second beach in Newport, underrated park park. My about there 951 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 10: all day forever. 952 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 6: Craig wants to know if I'm shrinking. 953 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 10: I love New England. I love New England as much 954 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 10: as I talked about the Massachusetts I actually I meant 955 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 10: the other day talking about this and hopefully they see it. 956 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, Copa, we got a video for you. Come on 957 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 9: you the Bosston guy. 958 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,240 Speaker 6: Just want to remind everyone of what's going on here. Today. 959 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 6: At one o'clock there'll be a live press conference from 960 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 6: the GP Atrium. There'll be Robert Craft, Mike Rabel, Elliott 961 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 6: Wolf and whatever free agents are in town today. We'll 962 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 6: be going to the podium, then we'll go back to 963 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 6: this show. Is we'll cover that live here in the show, 964 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 6: and then we'll go back to us and we'll go 965 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 6: beyond two o'clock with reaction from that and and everything else. 966 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 4: So it seems like it's a big day today, like 967 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 4: for the big ones. According to people on Twitter, well, 968 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 4: Milton Williams, Carlton Davis, Morgan, Moses and Rob Bulaine. Robert Splain. Yeah, 969 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 4: those four, I I think or will be expected to appear. 970 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,959 Speaker 4: Who was Mickey Spallain Mickey Splain. 971 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,959 Speaker 3: Breaking on that people keep making that joke. 972 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 6: He was a detective? Right, No, he was a writer 973 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 6: who wrote about. 974 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 15: Or something. 975 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 4: I thought he was a character. 976 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 6: No, I think I think I thought Mickey Spallain was. 977 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 4: That's why I pointed to Fred. I didn't want to 978 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 4: say something I believe. 979 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 6: I believe he was the writer who wrote about Mike 980 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 6: Camra Marlowe, right, Philip. 981 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 3: Philip, he's a novelist, you are right? 982 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah? 983 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 6: And who did he write novels? 984 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 12: Yeah? 985 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 4: But Mike Camra detective? 986 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 14: What detective did he write? Mike Camera Mike ca Wow, good, 987 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 14: you're making a joke. The King of pulp fiction apparently. 988 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 14: I don't know if that's related to Mickey Splaine known 989 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 14: as the King of pulp fiction. 990 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 4: Makes me hang to the person that knows just enough 991 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 4: to get in trouble about everything, and then I checked 992 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,240 Speaker 4: with als. 993 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 3: Comic books, ye novels or novellas. 994 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 4: Different novellas. 995 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,760 Speaker 6: So now I'm going to be calling Bobby Spolaine Mickey 996 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 6: for the rest. 997 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 4: Of them, Robert, He's gonna be calling him Bob. 998 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 3: Why not Bobby Bobby Spolen I don't know if he 999 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 3: prefers Bobby. 1000 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 4: Probably Rob. 1001 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 9: We'll find out. 1002 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 4: Like Ben Watson, I'll ask for you. He like to 1003 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 4: be called Benjamin. 1004 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 6: Bob Sanders from the Colts Robbers, right, but he but 1005 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 6: that's what he went by, Bob, Like, no, do you 1006 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 6: prefer to be called Frederick or fred I don't care. 1007 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 6: I'm not one of those people that I prefer to 1008 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 6: be Joshua specific. It's like, you know, like I don't care. 1009 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 4: Wow, you know anger. 1010 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 6: I don't like that. My mother cared, but I don't. 1011 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 3: That's why they do it, because it's all about the 1012 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 3: mamas Obama's care and they get mad. We're you're junior, 1013 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 3: you know, don't. 1014 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, Sabrina in Austria rights in Hi, guys and Alex 1015 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 6: is there a possibility where we double dip at left 1016 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 6: tackle with maybe a fourth overall in our third round? 1017 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 6: Choice draft Campbell, focus on wide receiver in the second round, 1018 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 6: and then get another left tackle so we have insurance 1019 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 6: if Campbell can't play offensive tackle in the NFL, to 1020 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 6: move them to guard and still have another young body 1021 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 6: at the position. 1022 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 3: Sure. 1023 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe I just thought you don't want to overkill it, 1024 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 8: but you got to figure out the the problem. So 1025 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 8: I think if you if you're not one hundred percent 1026 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 8: sure and you have to back it up, I love 1027 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 8: them to say we love this guy. 1028 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 9: We believe in this guy. 1029 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 8: We're taking this guy, and we don't need to have 1030 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 8: a backup for him because we're confident. 1031 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 4: But not a terrible thing to get it right though, 1032 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 4: you know, strengthen numbers. Except for I just would caution, like, 1033 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 4: if Will Campbell doesn't work, you don't have a fallback 1034 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 4: on a third round pick. Yeah, you have another guy 1035 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 4: who may or may not work. Probably there's a reason 1036 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 4: why you getting him in the third round, and that's 1037 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 4: because people aren't sold on him. 1038 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. If I had to do a mock draft today, though, 1039 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 3: I probably have them double dipping at tackle. 1040 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1041 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 4: I think the theory is saying, yeah. 1042 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 3: I mean I would like that player to maybe be 1043 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 3: a little bit flexible so that he could either be 1044 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 3: a swing or he could be guard or tackle or 1045 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 3: something like that. But you know the second pick, I mean, 1046 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 3: you know whoever they pick in the middle rounds. But 1047 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 3: I would say that that sound reasoning. 1048 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 4: How about a double dip of you know, veteran of 1049 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 4: your choice if it's Cam Robinson, whoever, and one of 1050 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 4: your injured guys. 1051 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we talked a little bit about on 1052 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 3: Catch twenty two yesterday. Like if they signed Cam Robinson, 1053 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 3: Let's say the market's not there for Cam Robinson that 1054 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 3: he expected, so you give him a one year deal. 1055 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 3: He's going to start this year for the Patriots. Let 1056 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 3: him reset his value maybe a little bit in draft 1057 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 3: Josh Simmons. You know, the Hio State tackle's coming off injury. 1058 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 3: We don't really entertain Josh Simmons because it's not an 1059 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 3: immediate answer, right, But if that's the way that you 1060 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 3: can do it, then then it's something that's not like. 1061 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 4: That's facilitating again, like this is two days to room. 1062 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, magic, well. 1063 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 9: We can we can we head up to the thing. 1064 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 4: I won't be able to facilitate anymore because Fred won't 1065 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 4: take it. 1066 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 6: You get up there. I know you need to. 1067 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:13,800 Speaker 3: Get a seat. 1068 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 9: We gotta walk in front of everybody. 1069 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 4: They got to sign their autographs, grapes for a little 1070 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 4: sensory reporting. 1071 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 9: Trying to try to have a good show without us. 1072 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 6: Okay, so these guys are going up to be seen 1073 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 6: at the press conference. 1074 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 11: I got a view up there. 1075 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 6: It's starting to fill up. It's starting to fill up. Okay, 1076 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 6: So we'll go to that when it becomes live. 1077 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 4: You don't need to be seen. You're gonna slum it 1078 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 4: with us. 1079 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 6: You'll go up eventually. You know, she can't, she can't resist. 1080 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 10: Now I want to stay just in spite of it. 1081 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,439 Speaker 4: Now I'm going to just defend New England some more. 1082 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 6: Stevie and Minnesota sad to see Andrews Jones and wise Go. 1083 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 6: Speaking for personal experience, having lived in Minnesota, so you 1084 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 6: opened up a big can of worms, I guess. So, 1085 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 6: having lived in Minnesota and visited Massachusetts, Minnesota is the 1086 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,280 Speaker 6: better summer spot. The lakes are far superior to the ocean, 1087 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 6: and the people are much friendlier. And although Michigan is nice, 1088 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 6: Minnesota is the best Midwest state for all seasons. Also, 1089 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 6: ersy from Minnesota would be a steal at thirty eight 1090 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 6: if they're able to get him. Okay, I don't know where. 1091 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a longer name than that. I believe you know, 1092 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 4: Hunt stepped out at the worst time, because I'm sure 1093 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 4: I Evan could give you twenty five minutes on you. 1094 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 6: He said, Hunter Orcarter at four ersy at thirty eight 1095 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 6: would be a successful first two rounds. 1096 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I agree. Like if you could somehow get 1097 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 4: Hunter Orcada at four, yeah, that would make a lot 1098 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 4: of sense. Still, that's still very much in flux. 1099 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 6: Though this has legs spiking. Fresno. A few years ago, 1100 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 6: I'd returned to Martha's Vineyard, where our family had gone 1101 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 6: every summer when as a kid, way back in my youth, 1102 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 6: I finally recall the ferocity of the waves crashing at 1103 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,800 Speaker 6: South Beach, and those were still there, But sadly Gayhead 1104 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 6: Beach no longer had all the starfish they used to 1105 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 6: be everywhere, more locals doing rituals in the buff. Anyone 1106 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 6: know what happened to the starfish? 1107 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 4: How about my memme? Should you go there to catch 1108 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,399 Speaker 4: a little sunset action? That's clean, live and Alex, that's 1109 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 4: what where? Could you uh just park your butt? For 1110 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 4: the day is uh Newport Newport. Yeah, I have spent 1111 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 4: a lot of time in Newport All. I did pick 1112 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 4: up my first career collegiate victory in Newport. There you 1113 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 4: go at Salve Regina. A little fun fun fact for you. 1114 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 6: Jeffrey Canada wants to know are we done? If we're 1115 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 6: doing a press conference to introduce our acquisitions, does the signal? 1116 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 6: Does that signal the end of major acquisitions this offseason? 1117 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 15: No? 1118 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 6: I mean, if there's other people available. 1119 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 4: It's not like that, I would say it. I would say, 1120 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 4: and this is not because of the press conference today, 1121 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 4: but I would say in terms of like major stuff, 1122 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 4: you're probably done because I don't think there's a lot 1123 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 4: of major available unless Fred's theory comes to pass, Like 1124 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,479 Speaker 4: you are able to make a trade for a J Brown, 1125 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 4: that's me. But what's available right now on the free 1126 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 4: agent market, I don't think we'll qualify as anything made 1127 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 4: that's not major. But I know there's a reason why 1128 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,280 Speaker 4: he was made available for two weeks to the entire league. 1129 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 4: No one took him, and now he's been released for 1130 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 4: a day and still the teams that have been tied 1131 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 4: to him are like Seattle, the Patriots and the Broncos, like, 1132 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 4: there's not a lot of interest there. That's not a 1133 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 4: major sign. 1134 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 6: I think he's weighing his options. 1135 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 4: No, I know, but teams aren't the teams that are 1136 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 4: showing interest. Are those teams not listen? Buffalo Green Bay, 1137 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 4: Like the teams that you know that are really good 1138 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 4: that need receivers haven't been linked to him yet. 1139 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 6: If the Patriots had a flair for the dramatic, they 1140 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 6: bring up, you know, the free agents at the podium 1141 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 6: and go, oh, we have one more, and then they 1142 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 6: bring out Cooper Cup and all the ball knowers will. 1143 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 4: Be like, I'm not sure you get the react that 1144 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,399 Speaker 4: you think you would get. I want them to sign 1145 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 4: Cooper Cup because I think they need a professional that 1146 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 4: happens profession it. 1147 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 10: And he just popped up like that has never happened, right, Like. 1148 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 4: In terms of adding to the depth chart, he's just 1149 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 4: adding another complimentary receiver to the depth chart off the 1150 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 4: field in that room, I think would add a ton 1151 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 4: of professionalism to a specific position group that really needs it. 1152 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 4: So I am one thousand on signing Cooper Cup. But 1153 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 4: I am in no way am I like deluding myself 1154 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 4: into thinking that's changing the course of my offense because 1155 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:44,479 Speaker 4: I have Cooper Cup. 1156 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:45,839 Speaker 6: But it helps. 1157 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 4: I think it helps off the field. I don't know 1158 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 4: how much it helps on it helps. 1159 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 6: He's you know, fifty five catches. 1160 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 4: He's okay, Yeah, that helps. 1161 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 6: Why because they don't have a guy that can do that? 1162 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,240 Speaker 4: You have, Yes, you do. Kendrick Bourne can catch fifty 1163 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 4: five balls. He has. I'd rather in fact, he's already 1164 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 4: done it. I'd rather have Cup, Tomorrio Douglas can catch 1165 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 4: fifty five balls. He's already done it. He's still here. 1166 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 4: So I don't necessarily think that's going to greatly impact 1167 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 4: your course. 1168 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 10: But if he lifts up everyone with him. 1169 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,240 Speaker 4: No, he's just going to be another guy will impact 1170 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 4: off the field. Yes, on the field, you know. 1171 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 10: He'll triggle to the field, like Kendrick has credited Cooper 1172 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,320 Speaker 10: Cup with like changing the diet, like the trajectory of 1173 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:33,760 Speaker 10: his career. 1174 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 4: Right, how do you think of that career there? It's 1175 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 4: like that's what I'm saying. 1176 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 10: Probably a lot better than it would have been with 1177 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 10: whatever Shenanigan's he was getting into in college, you know, 1178 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 10: like not. 1179 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,240 Speaker 4: Knowing the plays and way to line up and whatnot. 1180 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 4: I could bring Mike back. I could go to the 1181 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 4: Kendrick Bourne free amble. I really like Cooper Cup. I 1182 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 4: think he was a terrific player in his prime, which 1183 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,720 Speaker 4: was now four years ago when he won a triple crown. 1184 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 4: He has not come anywhere near that since. And I 1185 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 4: don't think that you just have three mediocre years and 1186 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 4: then all of a sudden I have one more like 1187 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 4: Lazarus season. I don't think that that's likely, but I 1188 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 4: would be one hundred percent yes and signing. 1189 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 6: I think he would be a positive impact to the offense. 1190 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 4: I agree, not for the same reason that you do, Okay, 1191 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 4: but I agree. 1192 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 6: Alex and Raleigh, North Carolina. I love living in Massachusetts 1193 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 6: for my twenty five years before I got married, moved 1194 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 6: to Jersey, and now living in North Carolina. I admit 1195 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 6: I love growing up by the ocean in mass But 1196 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 6: North Carolina beaches, oh, do give the Massachusetts beach for 1197 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:41,879 Speaker 6: their money. 1198 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 10: North Carolina's great. 1199 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 6: Summary in North Carolina is a wonderful time and it's 1200 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,240 Speaker 6: very hard to beat the summer here. Everyone loves coming 1201 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 6: down to the outer banks, down to Wilmington, North Carolina 1202 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 6: and everything in between. 1203 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 10: No notes, I'm in I love North Carolina. 1204 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 6: No notes, what does that mean, young girl? 1205 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 10: No notes like that take? I have no critique of it, Okay, 1206 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 10: without comment. I think North Carolina is a beautiful state. 1207 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 10: There's a reason why why is the cost of living 1208 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 10: so expensive in the Northeast Because everyone wants to live here, 1209 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 10: you know. Like to the Minnesota comment, to the Michigan. 1210 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 4: Comment, let's argue with that. Jeremiah, watch Outer Banks. 1211 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 10: It was fine. 1212 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 6: What do you think it was a good show? 1213 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 10: It was fine. 1214 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 6: Oh that was a show. 1215 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 4: Tremendously stupid. Love it unbelievable. It was entertainment, entertaining, mindless 1216 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 4: television actually cast almost guys every episode. 1217 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 10: I watched The Outer Banks with my siblings in the 1218 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,760 Speaker 10: Outer Banks on vacation with my family. 1219 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:50,240 Speaker 6: Cool, cool story, Jeremiah says. Recently, Rapaport reported that cup 1220 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 6: has a strong market, and from the sound of what 1221 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 6: a bunch of insiders have been saying, it sounds more 1222 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 6: like no one wanted to trade for his contract and 1223 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 6: instead wanted to uh read a go. When he hit 1224 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 6: free agency. 1225 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 4: Then he didn't have a strong market. 1226 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 6: I think you're quibbling. 1227 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 4: No, I'm not quibbling. 1228 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 6: You're quibbling. 1229 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 4: He was very affordable. So if no one wanted the contract, 1230 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 4: there's not a lot of interest. 1231 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 6: I don't know what. I'm just saying, what rapaport. 1232 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,919 Speaker 4: He was going to make twenty million dollars maximum. 1233 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 6: That's a lot. No, it's not for someone in his 1234 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 6: stage of his career. I think it is. 1235 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 4: It's not a lot for a guy who's going to 1236 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 4: impact someone's offense, as you say. 1237 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 16: He will. 1238 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 6: Now see now you're you're you know you're not being fair. 1239 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 4: Listen, you're not being fair. 1240 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 6: I know what you're doing, Fred, I know what you're doing. 1241 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,879 Speaker 4: He's been available for three weeks now, right, and he's 1242 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 4: still available. Someone's going to sign him for a very 1243 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 4: modest I think. 1244 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 6: If we were the only team interested, he'd already be 1245 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:45,280 Speaker 6: saying it's. 1246 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 4: Not the only team. We're not the only team. I 1247 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 4: just told you there was a tweet Seattle, Denver. 1248 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 6: I think the Patriots. 1249 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,800 Speaker 4: Those are the three teams that have expressed interest. 1250 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 6: More. I think there's more. 1251 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 4: And I'm just telling you if one of those more 1252 00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,879 Speaker 4: is someone like Buffalo, Kansas City, the Chargers, Green Bay, 1253 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 4: he's gonna go to one of those cases. 1254 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 6: I'm just saying, he's got a strong market. I agree 1255 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 6: with Rappaport. I agree with the I. 1256 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 4: Will tell you what the market was when I see 1257 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 4: the contract. If he signs for twenty million, then you're right. 1258 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 4: I don't think you will. What if he signs for ten, 1259 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 4: then he didn't have a strong market. That's peanuts. 1260 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 6: Well I think you can. 1261 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 4: You think less than Nelson Aguilore signed in twenty one. 1262 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,240 Speaker 6: You can sign for less than what your current contract 1263 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,359 Speaker 6: and still have a strong market. A lot of people 1264 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 6: were interested at the right price. 1265 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 4: Then that's my point. Then you're not really interested. If 1266 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 4: it has to be at a price, well you if 1267 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,959 Speaker 4: you're inches it like Milton Williams, no one cared about 1268 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 4: the price. 1269 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:40,240 Speaker 6: I think you equivalent. 1270 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,760 Speaker 4: That's that's a strong market. 1271 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,240 Speaker 6: Milton Williams is twenty five right, Okay. It's different, Paul, 1272 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,239 Speaker 6: and you know it. This guy's at the end of 1273 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:48,800 Speaker 6: his career. 1274 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 4: It's different in that he's not gonna get the bad 1275 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,240 Speaker 4: amount of money. He's not gonna get twenty five million 1276 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 4: a year. 1277 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 6: He's not gonna get what his current contract was paying him. 1278 00:56:58,680 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 6: And that's the problem. 1279 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 4: And I would argue that that means that there's not 1280 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 4: a huge market form because that's not a very big contract. Well, 1281 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 4: so if he doesn't get it, then people say, yeah, 1282 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 4: I'll take them at my price. Okay, that's not the 1283 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,240 Speaker 4: same as having a strong market. 1284 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 6: But I'm saying a lot of people are saying I'll 1285 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 6: take them at the right price. 1286 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 4: Okay, I just disagree that that means he has a 1287 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 4: strong mark. Okay, all right, and they're at twelve fifty seven. 1288 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 4: Is the Fred and Paul Samantic argument. 1289 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 6: I'm only go up. I know you want to go. 1290 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 10: It's going to be playing, but just go. 1291 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 6: Don't you want to see your people more for my people. 1292 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 6: I don't want to hold you back. 1293 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 4: He just told you to just go. The last person 1294 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 4: on this show he did that to was Andy Hart 1295 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 4: in two thousand and four. 1296 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 6: That's because what did he do bad name on the show? 1297 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 17: Really? 1298 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 4: Nothing, nothing like that fa like not like like you 1299 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 4: have this look on your face like it was a scandal. No, no, no, 1300 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,439 Speaker 4: he just he said something that he shouldn't have said. 1301 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 2: Me. 1302 00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was but not like. 1303 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 6: Andy was in a bad mood that day because one 1304 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 6: of his buddies plagiarized in the media. 1305 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,919 Speaker 4: Remember I wasn't there. 1306 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, there was a media member who was being accused. 1307 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 4: Of, Oh, the Western writer. I think I'm not going 1308 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 4: to say the name because I don't want to think. 1309 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he was out that way, big guy. Yeah, okay, 1310 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 6: And and he was defending him. I'm like, there's no 1311 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,959 Speaker 6: defense for that in our industry. That's like the mortal sin. 1312 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 6: Plagiarism is like killing somebody in the in journalism, you 1313 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 6: can't do that. So we were going back and forth 1314 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 6: in that, and then he was all razzled and we 1315 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 6: got on the subject of a player and he used 1316 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 6: a bad word. 1317 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 4: And not like I just I just want to say, 1318 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 4: it wasn't like a racial It wasn't like a racial 1319 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 4: thing or anything like that. It wasn't like a taboo bad. Yeah, 1320 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 4: it was unnecessary just. 1321 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 6: Go future like. 1322 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 4: And I was home because that was like when we 1323 00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 4: was born. So I wasn't at. 1324 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 6: That money that you brought that up. Because Warren Ladd, 1325 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 6: one of our UK fans, unearthed that clip and he 1326 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 6: said he was going to post it on YouTube and 1327 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 6: he what the he WhatsApp me. You know what WhatsApp is, 1328 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 6: young person. 1329 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 4: Before you derogatorily called her young girl. 1330 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 6: Funny, he whatsapped me and asked me, would that be 1331 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 6: okay with me if he did that? I said, you know, 1332 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 6: I don't care. 1333 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 4: Just make sure it's not like you should probably hear 1334 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 4: it first. There's some things that we've said in the 1335 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 4: past that I wouldn't feel comfortable with. 1336 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 12: Yeah. 1337 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't age well. Good, good way to. 1338 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 6: Putting that's true. It's like some of those old Seinfeld 1339 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,439 Speaker 6: episodes that they couldn't get away with these days. 1340 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, which they should be able to, but you can't. 1341 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1342 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 4: So there's no sense of arguing whether or not you 1343 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 4: should be able to get away with it. 1344 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 6: You can't. Let's see Claire. Hello everyone, Hello marine he quick. 1345 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 6: Thanks to Evan for bringing his beautiful mind on a 1346 00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:00,920 Speaker 6: clear perspective today to do Creagent frenzy. Uh, tugs to Alex. 1347 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 6: I'm sad over Jones and wise leaving, but the David 1348 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 6: Andrews release has gutted me. 1349 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 10: I get it. 1350 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 12: Yep. 1351 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 6: Finally, how does a girl go about obtaining one of 1352 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 6: those surplus small sized PU shirts? 1353 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 15: Please? 1354 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 6: Oh well perhaps the Yeah, absolutely, send Claire to Smalls. 1355 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 6: I don't think many of our fans are small. 1356 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 15: So what. 1357 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 5: Let's go. 1358 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 6: Let's go. 1359 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 5: Oh, welcome everyone. 1360 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 16: Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today. We're 1361 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 16: here to discuss the free agent acquisitions we've made and 1362 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 16: to introduce you to these players who have signed their 1363 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 16: contract today. And I just personally, I'm very excited about 1364 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:57,240 Speaker 16: what's coming. And I'm I've been told I should calm down, 1365 01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 16: but I'd be remiss if I didn't first acknowledge a departure. 1366 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 16: Today we released our two time Super Bowl champion and 1367 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 16: one of my favorite players ever to come through our 1368 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 16: locker room. 1369 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 5: David Andrews. 1370 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 16: David's been an integral part of the Patriots for the 1371 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 16: past decade, including the past eight years. He was a 1372 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 16: captain of the team, and he was just not a 1373 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,600 Speaker 16: leader in the locker room, but he was an outstanding 1374 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 16: individual in the community and very special on a personal level. 1375 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 16: I was able to spend time with him with David 1376 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 16: and his incredible wife McKenzie on a trip to the 1377 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 16: Holy Land and really got to know them very well 1378 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 16: five or six years ago, and just a very special guy. 1379 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 16: And it's the hot part of this business when. 1380 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 5: You have to release people in But as we. 1381 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 16: Look ahead and continue to build for the future, we've 1382 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 16: made some wonderful key additions to this team, and I'm 1383 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 16: happy to welcome them to the Patriot family and actually 1384 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 16: looking forward to see the impact they're going to have, 1385 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 16: hopefully on game day. We are committed. We are really 1386 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 16: committed to build a team which all of our fans 1387 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 16: can be proud of. I was saying to one of 1388 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 16: the players, you know, I sat for the thirty odd 1389 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 16: years and went to the four stadiums and came here 1390 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 16: in seventy one. That was the first time about season 1391 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 16: tickets and really appreciate how special this team is. And 1392 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 16: I've been so honored to be able to buy an 1393 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 16: NFL team in my hometown. And so I understand what 1394 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:24,919 Speaker 16: the fans want. And I'll just tell you I'm very 1395 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 16: excited about the people we've brought in here, and I 1396 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:35,920 Speaker 16: just hope we really perform come when the season starts. 1397 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 16: So I'm gonna ask Elliott to come and discuss the 1398 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 16: players who have signed, and then Mike Rabel and the 1399 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 16: players will be available as well for any questions afterwards. 1400 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 16: So Elliott, do you want. 1401 01:03:53,720 --> 01:04:05,080 Speaker 18: To well, just to echo Robert, this is an exciting time, 1402 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 18: you know, for exciting players that we've signed are here. 1403 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,920 Speaker 18: Harold l anderw was here yesterday. We've got some guys 1404 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 18: coming in tomorrow. Josh Dobbs is coming in mac Hollins, 1405 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 18: Jalen Hawkins, Austin Hooper and Kyrie's Tonga. And there's still 1406 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 18: more work to be done. Obviously we're not finished. We 1407 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,280 Speaker 18: still have some more needs to fill. Just wanted to 1408 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 18: echo Robert again and say thank you to David Andrews 1409 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 18: for everything, as well as Dietrich Wise, Jonathan Jones, Jacobe 1410 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 18: Brissette who have moved on and for all their contributions 1411 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 18: last year and over the years. Wanted to thank Ownership 1412 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 18: for all their unwavering support you know, anything we needed 1413 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 18: the whole time. They've been nothing but supportive to us. 1414 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 18: Working with the coaching staff. You know, it's difficult for 1415 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 18: a coaching staff. 1416 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 5: To come in. 1417 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 9: They're putting in new schemes. 1418 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 18: Getting to know each other, work together, and you know 1419 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 18: they've all all the free agents. I mean they've been 1420 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,040 Speaker 18: over backwards for the personnel department to identify the free 1421 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,919 Speaker 18: agents and other guys on teams that have been able 1422 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 18: to help us. 1423 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:13,720 Speaker 5: Thank you. 1424 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,680 Speaker 18: Thank you to the pro scouting staff, Richard Miller, Nancy Meyer, 1425 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 18: Matt grow has taken a bigger role in the contract 1426 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 18: negotiation world and he really excelled this year so far 1427 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 18: on that and we expect that to continue. And with 1428 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 18: that being said, just want to discuss the four guys 1429 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 18: that are here, Milton Williams, Morgan Moses, Robert Spallanz, CD, 1430 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 18: Carlton Davis, you know, just guys that we've targeted over 1431 01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:46,320 Speaker 18: the years, veterans, professionals. There was definitely an emphasis on 1432 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 18: good people, good players, culture changers, difference makers, and I 1433 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,800 Speaker 18: think these four guys really exemplify that, as well as 1434 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 18: Harold Landry, who was here yesterday and he had to 1435 01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 18: return to his family vacation. 1436 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:05,320 Speaker 5: So, you know, starting over here CD. I was in 1437 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 5: Cleveland when CD came out. 1438 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 12: In the draft. 1439 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:08,880 Speaker 3: I tried really really hard to. 1440 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 18: Get us to pick him and you know, got vetoed 1441 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,640 Speaker 18: on that one. But ever since then have followed his career, 1442 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 18: you know, when he's been available, every time we've tried 1443 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 18: to get him, and now we finally were able to 1444 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 18: make that happen. So I'm excited about that. Robert just 1445 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 18: a tremendous story. Mini camp try out in with the 1446 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,040 Speaker 18: Tennessee Titans. Didn't have a free agent contract after the draft, 1447 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 18: made the team practice squad starter, and then you know, 1448 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 18: had over one hundred and forty tackles each of the 1449 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 18: last two seasons. Morgan Moses has been a right tackle 1450 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 18: since the moment he was drafted, has played you know, 1451 01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 18: a ton of starts, physical, tough, just a professional, very 1452 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,640 Speaker 18: consistent run game, pass game, all that. And then Milton Williams, 1453 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 18: you know, really has come on in the last couple 1454 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 18: of years here excited about what he can do for 1455 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 18: us on the interior of the defensive line, you know, 1456 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:10,160 Speaker 18: pass rush, run defense, and all these guys again are 1457 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 18: just tremendous workers, and we couldn't be more excited that 1458 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 18: they're joining our team and what's moving forward here. 1459 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 5: So with that being. 1460 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 18: Said, he would like to introduce coach Rabel and he's 1461 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 18: got some remarks as well, So I appreciate. 1462 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 12: That, appreciate that, Elliott. 1463 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 19: I want to thank Robert and Jonathan's not able to 1464 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,920 Speaker 19: be here today, but I want to thank them on 1465 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 19: behalf of just the coaching staff. I think the personnel 1466 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 19: an echo Elliott's comments just about the support and the 1467 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 19: commitment that they've made just in getting this process and 1468 01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 19: this just being able to build a program every single 1469 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 19: day and allow us to have the resources that we've 1470 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 19: needed to do that to provide our players with everything 1471 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 19: that they need to be successful on and off the field. 1472 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 19: So thank you, you know, thank you Robert. I want 1473 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 19: to thank Elliott. I want to thank his personnel department, 1474 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,959 Speaker 19: specifically to pro Scouts and that staff that that really 1475 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,519 Speaker 19: teed it up for me and the coaches to come 1476 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 19: in and evaluate as we work through the personnel you 1477 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 19: know stage and in the preliminary stages of that. So 1478 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,519 Speaker 19: you know, I thought they did a great job. I 1479 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:33,479 Speaker 19: want to thank them. Would love to thank Nancy Meyer 1480 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 19: and Stretch for for kind of coordinating everything. Everything moves 1481 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,880 Speaker 19: pretty quick, and they kept us in line and they 1482 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,000 Speaker 19: kept us and they handled travel and just the communication 1483 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 19: and getting everybody here, So I want to thank them. 1484 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 19: I would love to thank Richie and Mitch and and 1485 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 19: Halle who are going to form our player Engagement on 1486 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 19: department and then being able to just meet with these 1487 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,519 Speaker 19: families and visit and help this transition that you know, 1488 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,559 Speaker 19: there's going to be some new players here, many new 1489 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 19: faces here, and that that department is critical and you know, 1490 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 19: we want to support them. The I want to thank 1491 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 19: specifically our little free agent group which was Me, Elliott, 1492 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 19: Ryan Cowden, Matt grow Richard Miller. 1493 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,160 Speaker 12: Uh that we were firing them off left. 1494 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 19: And right, just trying to get back touched, go pivot 1495 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,200 Speaker 19: because everything happens pretty quick. And Uh, that was fun 1496 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 19: just being able to everybody, you know, work at a different angle, Uh, 1497 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 19: getting the contracts done, communicating on that, going to plan 1498 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 19: B and and really it was fun. And and we're 1499 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,880 Speaker 19: excited about the players that we had. And you can 1500 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 19: see that. You know, once you get to know these 1501 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 19: these players and these men. 1502 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:44,800 Speaker 12: That that we we're going. 1503 01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,439 Speaker 19: To be just as excited as them off the field 1504 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,560 Speaker 19: as we are on the field. But I want to 1505 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 19: welcome you guys. I want to welcome you. Guys are 1506 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,599 Speaker 19: our Patriot family. And I think that we were all 1507 01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 19: excited about getting you as players, but then when we 1508 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,439 Speaker 19: met in the in the hallway and met your families, 1509 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:07,640 Speaker 19: we're even more excited to meet your support system and 1510 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 19: understand why you guys. 1511 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 12: Are the way you are. 1512 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,719 Speaker 5: And you know, we're. 1513 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,680 Speaker 19: Gonna we're gonna support the things and the people that 1514 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:14,719 Speaker 19: are important in your life. 1515 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:16,080 Speaker 12: That's what we believe in. 1516 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 19: We believe in making connections and making sure that then 1517 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,559 Speaker 19: when they come to work here that we're doing everything 1518 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,800 Speaker 19: we can so that we can we can put the 1519 01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 19: product on the field that Robert talked about. That's a 1520 01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 19: that's a championship product, and that starts by investing in 1521 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 19: people and and and I'm confident that we got the 1522 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 19: right people and then now it's our job to put 1523 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,639 Speaker 19: them in the right places, uh as players to get 1524 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 19: the best out of them. Until I'm excited to start 1525 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 19: that process so that that, uh, I guess I'll take 1526 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,799 Speaker 19: a few questions as it relates to some of the players, 1527 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,759 Speaker 19: and then what we plan on doing going forward, Karen, 1528 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 19: I'm on Karen. 1529 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:04,240 Speaker 2: In the prior meetings with us, you've talked about wanting 1530 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 2: to support Drake Bay and protecting him with an improved 1531 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:13,679 Speaker 2: offensive line. With the news of the release of David 1532 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 2: Andrews today, there now appear multiple holes to fill. Have 1533 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 2: things not gone. 1534 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:22,599 Speaker 10: According to plan? 1535 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,880 Speaker 2: And are you now forced to draft for need in 1536 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 2: that area? 1537 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 12: No, I think that there's a lot there. Karen. 1538 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,680 Speaker 19: You mentioned David and want to thank him, you know, 1539 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,160 Speaker 19: having played at this organization, not quite as long as 1540 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,840 Speaker 19: he had, but but being here. I want to thank 1541 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,840 Speaker 19: him for that, for for being here and carrying on 1542 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,759 Speaker 19: a tradition that so many great players before him had. 1543 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 19: We're going to continue to support as Elliott. Elliott mentioned 1544 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,360 Speaker 19: the needs that we feel like we're on the team, 1545 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 19: and we'll target the offensive line. There's still quite a 1546 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,760 Speaker 19: bit of time before we get to the draft, but 1547 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 19: but there's also you know, we we don't want to 1548 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 19: just be careless, right we talked about there's a difference. 1549 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 19: We want our players to play aggressive, we don't want 1550 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,799 Speaker 19: them to play reckless, and so we don't want. 1551 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,240 Speaker 12: To be reckless through this process. 1552 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,479 Speaker 19: We want to be very intentional with the with the 1553 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,639 Speaker 19: people that we bring on this football team, and we'll 1554 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 19: we'll continue to target all those needs that we feel 1555 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:21,840 Speaker 19: like and the players that can help us. 1556 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:27,640 Speaker 20: Thank you, he might when with Milton Williams, there was 1557 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,720 Speaker 20: a report that he was close to signing to another team, 1558 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,360 Speaker 20: and I think like an hour or so later, you know, 1559 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,760 Speaker 20: you guys finalized to deal with him. Can you take 1560 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,640 Speaker 20: us through the emotions of sort of that swing and 1561 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,719 Speaker 20: what was it about Milton that made you guys feel 1562 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 20: comfortable to give him the deal you did? 1563 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 12: Well, I think it's always about the entire package. 1564 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,240 Speaker 19: When you look at compensation, right, it's the it's the 1565 01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:47,280 Speaker 19: body of work, it's the. 1566 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:48,840 Speaker 12: What they're going to do for us. 1567 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,680 Speaker 19: And we always want to be able to, you know, 1568 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:57,439 Speaker 19: not rely on on past performances, but that was something 1569 01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,519 Speaker 19: there's a there's a high ceiling and a great vision 1570 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,080 Speaker 19: about the person, the effort, the skill set, you know, 1571 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,960 Speaker 19: the speed in which he plays, there's a there's a power, 1572 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,360 Speaker 19: so certainly there's an aggressiveness and being able to to 1573 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,640 Speaker 19: add him to our defensive line is something that was 1574 01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,559 Speaker 19: really exciting, you know. But you talk about the character 1575 01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,599 Speaker 19: and hopefully we're going to be able to I hope 1576 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,160 Speaker 19: you want to play more than then they're played in 1577 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 19: Philadelphia and I know that you guys are extremely successful, 1578 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 19: but we want to play him a little bit more 1579 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,320 Speaker 19: than that, and hope we can do that. 1580 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 12: You know, you just try to. 1581 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 19: You do your best in a short amount of time 1582 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 19: to make a connection with the player and kind of 1583 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,280 Speaker 19: what we are, right, we don't want to sell anything 1584 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,599 Speaker 19: like what we want to sell is just who we are. 1585 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,920 Speaker 19: It's not we want him to want to be here. 1586 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,640 Speaker 19: And then if they want to be here and we 1587 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,960 Speaker 19: want them, well we'll figure out a way to make 1588 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 19: it work contractually, but they we want people and players 1589 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,880 Speaker 19: that want to be here, that want to be a 1590 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,519 Speaker 19: part of what we're doing. And that's what these guys 1591 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:08,640 Speaker 19: are and there'll be more that that come along after them. 1592 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 21: Hey, Mike uh Tom, you mentioned you didn't want to 1593 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,559 Speaker 21: be selling people, but the reality of having had two 1594 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,280 Speaker 21: unsuccessful seasons and then ending up at the top of 1595 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:19,880 Speaker 21: the draft, you had to make some kind of a 1596 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 21: pitch to convince guys. And we'll certainly ask them about 1597 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,800 Speaker 21: it too, But what was your main pitch to say, Hey, 1598 01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:30,679 Speaker 21: I know it on paper has not been positive the last. 1599 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 5: Two years, but this is what we're building. 1600 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,960 Speaker 21: What was what was the main thing you were articulating 1601 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,360 Speaker 21: to these guys and convincing them. 1602 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,400 Speaker 19: I mean, just just who we are as people that 1603 01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,639 Speaker 19: we're gonna we're gonna care about them, We're gonna push 1604 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,360 Speaker 19: them about the team. Right, you have to target the 1605 01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 19: right player, you know, making sure that that our vision 1606 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,680 Speaker 19: and want them to help us build a program that 1607 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 19: that when the players walk back in here on April seventh, 1608 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 19: that they're proud of, that they want to protect that 1609 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 19: they call their own. 1610 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:00,679 Speaker 12: You know, just what we've. 1611 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 19: We've done and what we the relationships that we try 1612 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,320 Speaker 19: to make and and what we want to build uh, 1613 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 19: the entire player around and then put them in good spots. 1614 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,760 Speaker 19: And I think we've been able to to put some players, 1615 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 19: specifically Milton, put players like that in our history of 1616 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,880 Speaker 19: coaching and good spots to be productive and make players 1617 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:19,800 Speaker 19: that can help the team win. 1618 01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,600 Speaker 22: Hike Hi, Sophie, I was just curious there were the 1619 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,240 Speaker 22: reports about you guys going after Chris god when obviously 1620 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,599 Speaker 22: he RESIGND with Tampa Bay. I'm curious what your thoughts are, 1621 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,080 Speaker 22: what your plan is at the wide receiver position, and 1622 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 22: how you plan to address that, whether it's free agency 1623 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 22: or the draft. 1624 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm not gonna talk about any of the players. 1625 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,519 Speaker 19: Are the ones that are right here and the ones 1626 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:46,679 Speaker 19: that are gonna currently on our football team. We'll continue 1627 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 19: to target. Matt Collins will be in here tomorrow. He's 1628 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:52,320 Speaker 19: a wide receiver, you know. But we'll continue to look 1629 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:57,600 Speaker 19: at the wide receiver position as it relates through free agency, 1630 01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:02,320 Speaker 19: explore every option uh with other teams, and potentially, you know, 1631 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,320 Speaker 19: then we'll get to the point where we're where we're 1632 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 19: looking in the draft, and there's just a lot of time, 1633 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 19: and I know that everybody's like it's over at free agency. 1634 01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,160 Speaker 19: It's it's never over. And and Zoe's you know, wherever 1635 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,600 Speaker 19: Alonso is. I don't know, but he keeps reminding me 1636 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,920 Speaker 19: and I think everybody else that because he's been around 1637 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,720 Speaker 19: a lot of times. He's like, there's players that are 1638 01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 19: going to come available, whether it be now, or whether 1639 01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 19: it be in May or after training camp. Like it's 1640 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,360 Speaker 19: just he's like, I've seen it enough to know that 1641 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,640 Speaker 19: there's going to be someone that's currently not on our 1642 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,519 Speaker 19: roster that's going to help us win a game this year. 1643 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 12: We just he's not in Foxborougi. 1644 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:42,759 Speaker 23: Kill Andy, Mike, what do you remember about Robert Splane 1645 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 23: when he first came to Tennessee as a trial player 1646 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:47,720 Speaker 23: and just what do you think about the career that 1647 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 23: he's put together since then? 1648 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 12: Well, I mean it was just you couldn't you know. 1649 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,160 Speaker 19: We went out to practice and he didn't make any 1650 01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,280 Speaker 19: mental mayors. He was athletic, he was excellent in this 1651 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,680 Speaker 19: open field tackling drill. Did the same thing the next day, 1652 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,240 Speaker 19: did the same thing on Sunday. You know, it got 1653 01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 19: to be a joke where we would just keep throwing 1654 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,519 Speaker 19: them in and be like, hey, let's see if somebody 1655 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 19: can make Splaine miss. And then you know, John Robinson 1656 01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 19: and I were just like, we have to have him 1657 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:15,880 Speaker 19: on the football team. And I think he's earned the 1658 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,920 Speaker 19: right to be here based on those three days. And 1659 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,599 Speaker 19: you know, Robert may Or may not share this story, 1660 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,840 Speaker 19: but he got We told him, and it was on 1661 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,680 Speaker 19: Mother's Day and he got to call his mom and it. 1662 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,120 Speaker 12: Was you know, it was pretty special, you know, especially. 1663 01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,760 Speaker 19: For me being a young football coach or a young 1664 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,800 Speaker 19: head coach, to be able to see a player that 1665 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,280 Speaker 19: had earned the right like we didn't hand him anything 1666 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 19: like that's what we want for every single player on 1667 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:39,719 Speaker 19: our team. 1668 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:40,760 Speaker 12: We want them to. 1669 01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 19: Earn everything that they get. And that was an example 1670 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,639 Speaker 19: of what he earned his opportunity. 1671 01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,280 Speaker 12: In the National Football League. 1672 01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,160 Speaker 19: So that's no surprise of the career that he's had 1673 01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:51,280 Speaker 19: based on how it started. 1674 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,120 Speaker 24: Hey, Mike, going back to Karen's question regarding David and 1675 01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,679 Speaker 24: the offensive line, is you look to build a winning 1676 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,840 Speaker 24: culture or for an a time captain who's been here, 1677 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:07,160 Speaker 24: what made releasing him in the best interest of the team. 1678 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,760 Speaker 19: Well, I think we talk about leadership, and Elliott mentioned 1679 01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 19: a few other players as it relates to Jonathan Jones 1680 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 19: and Dietrich Wise and and you know, David happy for. 1681 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:25,639 Speaker 12: Those guys that you know are found other places. 1682 01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,639 Speaker 19: And there would be no restriction on leadership as far 1683 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:32,240 Speaker 19: as age or experience, Like every one of our players 1684 01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,800 Speaker 19: that walks in here or our coaches can can act 1685 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,960 Speaker 19: as a leader, you know. So I think when you 1686 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,000 Speaker 19: go through personnel decisions, there's a lot of things that 1687 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:51,240 Speaker 19: that we'll talk about, right, age ability, durability, production, vision, 1688 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,240 Speaker 19: and so I would say that, you know, anytime we 1689 01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 19: talk about personnel decisions, that those are going to be 1690 01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,800 Speaker 19: some of the things that that Ellie and I will 1691 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,600 Speaker 19: talk about. 1692 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:01,439 Speaker 10: Feel here. 1693 01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,000 Speaker 25: Hey, Mike, just on the timing with David, is that 1694 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,800 Speaker 25: was it injury related for him? 1695 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,439 Speaker 9: He obviously was hurt last year. 1696 01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,040 Speaker 19: I'm not gonna get into a lot of details and specifics. 1697 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 19: I wanna try to, you know, celebrate these players that 1698 01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:18,880 Speaker 19: we have here on this team that we're gonna be 1699 01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:23,719 Speaker 19: moving forward with. Robert Elliott, you know, touched on on David. 1700 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,080 Speaker 19: But you know, we're just trying to trying to move 1701 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,400 Speaker 19: forward here and and and continue to sign and add 1702 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,840 Speaker 19: players that we feel like are gonna help us uh 1703 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,080 Speaker 19: win and and s and really start preparing at April seventh. 1704 01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:36,880 Speaker 5: Last few questions. 1705 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:43,599 Speaker 26: First, price, am I how much if it all did? 1706 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,960 Speaker 26: Maybe the previous feeling of familiarity you have with some 1707 01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:48,920 Speaker 26: of these guys, not just you, but the coaching st 1708 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,800 Speaker 26: the extended to coaching staff have in terms. 1709 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,360 Speaker 19: Of I I don't know how you could do free 1710 01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,400 Speaker 19: agency any any differently, Like I really don't just the 1711 01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,719 Speaker 19: timing that's involved with a lot of this stuff. 1712 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,519 Speaker 12: You know, it's important to. 1713 01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 19: Me and Roberts and trusted Elliott and myself to bring 1714 01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 19: the right people onto this football team. And so if 1715 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,760 Speaker 19: we have coaches that we trust and then believe in 1716 01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 19: that have been with players, we have to take that 1717 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 19: into consideration. If there's players at Elliott or anybody else 1718 01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:24,200 Speaker 19: in the personnel department have had or myself, I think 1719 01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:25,840 Speaker 19: that that's critical, you know what I mean? We have 1720 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,439 Speaker 19: to evaluate the tape. That's that's the first thing we do, 1721 01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:32,240 Speaker 19: Like we watch the tape, and then it's what what 1722 01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 19: is this person? Who are we gonna get every single day? 1723 01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,720 Speaker 19: Because there's gonna be times in every football season that 1724 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,479 Speaker 19: it's not going well, and I've seen it from these 1725 01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:43,920 Speaker 19: players that they're not going anywhere, and the other ones 1726 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,360 Speaker 19: that we bring in and the other ones that are 1727 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,360 Speaker 19: down in that locker room right now, like they're resilient, 1728 01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,400 Speaker 19: they're not going to back down when things aren't bad. 1729 01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:56,000 Speaker 12: They can handle adversity, they'll attack adversity. So that's what 1730 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:56,920 Speaker 12: the idea is. 1731 01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,560 Speaker 19: And it really helps when you know somebody or a 1732 01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,280 Speaker 19: coach or trusted personnel member has been with that player. 1733 01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 12: It's it's just hard, you know, I mean, that's it's important. 1734 01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:09,559 Speaker 27: Mike. 1735 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,280 Speaker 28: How do you view Carlton's skill set and how it 1736 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:16,360 Speaker 28: pairs with Christian unlocking what you might be able to 1737 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:17,360 Speaker 28: do defensively? 1738 01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,320 Speaker 19: Yeah, hopefully we can just play cat coverage like you 1739 01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,200 Speaker 19: got that cat, I got this cat, and we can 1740 01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:26,479 Speaker 19: go to work. So just an aggressive step, I mean, 1741 01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 19: just the the I would say. The thing I appreciate 1742 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:33,960 Speaker 19: about watching CD is that they may catch a ball 1743 01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:35,960 Speaker 19: on him and he just lines back up and he 1744 01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 19: competes and he challenges and he tries to play aggressive 1745 01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,879 Speaker 19: and there's a there's a play style that we embrace. 1746 01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,080 Speaker 12: And so corners are it's a tough. 1747 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 19: Position in the National Football League, right and so they're 1748 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,760 Speaker 19: gonna have that passes that are caught on him, it's 1749 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,960 Speaker 19: can they line back up the next snap and challenge 1750 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,479 Speaker 19: and compete and get their hand on the next football, 1751 01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 19: And that would be I would say. Outside of his 1752 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,240 Speaker 19: physical skill set is the mental makeup. 1753 01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,200 Speaker 12: And Morgan, we didn't you get a follow up now 1754 01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:07,439 Speaker 12: and everybody else had to follow up. 1755 01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,840 Speaker 28: I just want to touch on Morgan because the four 1756 01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,599 Speaker 28: guys are here yep, and we didn't touch What does. 1757 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:13,720 Speaker 5: He bring well? 1758 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:19,720 Speaker 19: I think just a great veteran leadership, you know, tell 1759 01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,479 Speaker 19: us a funny story. After we were able to commit, 1760 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,400 Speaker 19: we were able to have a conversation, and so I 1761 01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:27,679 Speaker 19: face timed them with the boys. 1762 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:29,160 Speaker 12: You've got three boys a tour here. 1763 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:29,639 Speaker 5: You'll see. 1764 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:31,960 Speaker 19: But they're all eating candy. And I said, oh, you 1765 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,320 Speaker 19: guys are lucky. It's just celebrating. He goes, don't worry. 1766 01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,839 Speaker 19: I'll have him out there working training at four o'clock 1767 01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,479 Speaker 19: after we get done eating all this candy. 1768 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,040 Speaker 12: And I'm like, man, can you just let him have 1769 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 12: a good time today. He's like, Nope, They're going out 1770 01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,360 Speaker 12: training at four o'clock and that's what we're going to do. 1771 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,960 Speaker 12: So there's been a repeated. 1772 01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:51,519 Speaker 19: Experience of taking care of his body, playing a demanding position, 1773 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,559 Speaker 19: what he brings in the locker room. But again, there's 1774 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,400 Speaker 19: been a great product on the field with length, size, 1775 01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,519 Speaker 19: and we were excited to add him and his family. 1776 01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,439 Speaker 19: Thank you guys, And with that, I would now want 1777 01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,639 Speaker 19: to introduce CD Carlin Carlton Davis. 1778 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:22,240 Speaker 15: No applause here, nobody flopping, No, how y'all doing? 1779 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:27,280 Speaker 6: Some people looking from. 1780 01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,960 Speaker 22: Ryland, Hi, Carlton, Welcome to New England. I was just curious. 1781 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,160 Speaker 29: Elliott talked about how he were always someone who he 1782 01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,560 Speaker 29: wanted to Uh, well, he wanted to draft you and 1783 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,519 Speaker 29: then you know he wanted to pick you up. 1784 01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,640 Speaker 22: What's it like to hear that and what was kind 1785 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,880 Speaker 22: of that final motivation for you to come to New England. 1786 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 15: It's always good to be wanted, especially in this in 1787 01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:47,680 Speaker 15: this league. I didn't know. 1788 01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,920 Speaker 30: I didn't know, uh uh that was a story behind it. 1789 01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,960 Speaker 30: But you know, it's always good to be wanted in 1790 01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,599 Speaker 30: this league. And you know, uh, part of the decision 1791 01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,640 Speaker 30: of me coming here was you know, them prioritizing me 1792 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:05,120 Speaker 30: and you know, being able to you know, just get 1793 01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:05,479 Speaker 30: me here. 1794 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:05,880 Speaker 28: You know. 1795 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,320 Speaker 30: Uh, obviously I was in Detroit and uh, you know, 1796 01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:13,000 Speaker 30: we had a great season last year, but you know, ultimately, 1797 01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,479 Speaker 30: you know, just being somewhere where you feel prioritized and 1798 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,680 Speaker 30: you know, going somewhere where you know you uh are 1799 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,559 Speaker 30: familiar with you know, Terrell Williams and you know I've 1800 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,280 Speaker 30: always been a fan of uh Mike and how he 1801 01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 30: ran Tennessee. So you know that was part of the decision, 1802 01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:30,680 Speaker 30: and you know, I'm happy to be here. 1803 01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:39,280 Speaker 10: Cool Nato, Hey, Carlton, just what were your impressions of 1804 01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:40,880 Speaker 10: Terrell Williams last year in Detroit? 1805 01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:41,920 Speaker 15: Uh? 1806 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,760 Speaker 30: He was a real cool dude, you know, real he 1807 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,040 Speaker 30: w W. He wasn't quiet, he wasn't allowed. Uh always 1808 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,320 Speaker 30: gave UH great presentations when it came to our defensive meetings. 1809 01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,720 Speaker 30: You know, one of the best d line coaches in 1810 01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,840 Speaker 30: the NFL, and UH, you know we always had like 1811 01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,000 Speaker 30: a a respect list ship where he understood what I've 1812 01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,080 Speaker 30: gone to the game. And you know, it's always good 1813 01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:05,960 Speaker 30: when you get a good coach like that to uh, 1814 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,560 Speaker 30: you know, give you respect and acknowledge what you do. 1815 01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:12,240 Speaker 30: So you know, I wasn't there for too long, so 1816 01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:15,560 Speaker 30: I can't write a book about it, but obviously you know, 1817 01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,760 Speaker 30: he I gave a good impression on him, and he 1818 01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:19,840 Speaker 30: had a good impression for me. 1819 01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,560 Speaker 6: Days like the congratulations. 1820 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,320 Speaker 20: H how do you feel about Christian Zalist and how 1821 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:28,400 Speaker 20: do you feel about teaming up. 1822 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:29,320 Speaker 5: With him in the secondary. 1823 01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,280 Speaker 15: I'm excited, man, I'm excited. 1824 01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:31,479 Speaker 31: Uh. 1825 01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,280 Speaker 30: He's a young, great player. I've watched his film even 1826 01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,720 Speaker 30: when he was coming out of college. Uh watched this film. 1827 01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 30: I always kind of do a little background check on 1828 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:41,960 Speaker 30: the corners coming in the league. I guess it's a 1829 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:46,960 Speaker 30: competitive thing, but I liked his film. He's long, he's rangy, 1830 01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,240 Speaker 30: UH got good ball skills. 1831 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:49,599 Speaker 5: He's had. 1832 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,519 Speaker 30: He had a really good year last year, in my opinion. 1833 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,360 Speaker 30: I didn't watch too money uh Patriots uh defensive tapes, 1834 01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,200 Speaker 30: but uh, from what I've seen on the highlights. 1835 01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,720 Speaker 15: He looked like he was uh playing good ball. 1836 01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:03,360 Speaker 30: And I'm always eager to match up or just kind 1837 01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,479 Speaker 30: of team up with guys who has similar skill sets 1838 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,240 Speaker 30: to me and uh can help push me in practice. 1839 01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,200 Speaker 30: And I could push him at practice, and you know, 1840 01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,439 Speaker 30: it's always the iron as sharpenings iron. 1841 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:14,760 Speaker 15: So I'm excited for that. 1842 01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,080 Speaker 30: I'm I'm excited to get to practice with him, get 1843 01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,160 Speaker 30: to know him a little bit, pick his brain, just 1844 01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:20,800 Speaker 30: kind of see how we can help each other grow. 1845 01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:25,080 Speaker 12: Yep, Co. 1846 01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,160 Speaker 23: And Carlton, I know that you were teammates with Tom Brady, 1847 01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,639 Speaker 23: still big deal around here. Uh what do you remember 1848 01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,400 Speaker 23: about the time playing with him? 1849 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:40,559 Speaker 15: Man? Tom was a great guy. 1850 01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,880 Speaker 30: I was just telling somebody earlier today that I learned 1851 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:47,920 Speaker 30: so much from him and I didn't even have too 1852 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,479 Speaker 30: many conversations with him, but just how he carried hisself, 1853 01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:55,120 Speaker 30: how he went about the game. He impacted us on 1854 01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,439 Speaker 30: the field and off the field in Tampa, just from 1855 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 30: not just how seriously took practice and how focus he was, 1856 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:07,120 Speaker 30: but also how diligent he was in his recovery, everything 1857 01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:11,000 Speaker 30: he did to continue to be the same guy every day, taking. 1858 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,080 Speaker 15: Care of his body. And uh, he would give us 1859 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:13,880 Speaker 15: little tips on. 1860 01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,800 Speaker 30: What to do, and you know, just how to be 1861 01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,920 Speaker 30: a professional and how to be successful in this league 1862 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 30: and in this game. So I'm always thankful for having 1863 01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,720 Speaker 30: to share locker room with him and having to win 1864 01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,080 Speaker 30: games and win a championship with him. I learned so 1865 01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,800 Speaker 30: much and I'm so Uh, I'm just grateful for the opportunity. 1866 01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:34,320 Speaker 5: Chris christ. 1867 01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,439 Speaker 11: Prolong you heard might talk a little bit about the 1868 01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:38,920 Speaker 11: pitch to the free agents. 1869 01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,800 Speaker 26: What was the pitch like for you in your experience 1870 01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 26: talking to him, talking to Eliot and what ultimately sealed the. 1871 01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:46,439 Speaker 11: Deal for you here and doing. 1872 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,439 Speaker 30: You know, I would say me being a priority and 1873 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,240 Speaker 30: you know, also being able to come here and uh 1874 01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,519 Speaker 30: you know, do something historical here in a historical place. 1875 01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:02,400 Speaker 30: You know, like I said, I've always been a fan 1876 01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:06,479 Speaker 30: of Mike, uh even down in Tennessee and you know, 1877 01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,040 Speaker 30: uh t big t coming here and being in DC 1878 01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:13,679 Speaker 30: and you know, just knowing how he was as a coach, 1879 01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:19,240 Speaker 30: understanding the room I was coming into, the talent I 1880 01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,920 Speaker 30: could play with, and just the the the ability to 1881 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,800 Speaker 30: be able to come somewhere and build something and come 1882 01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,760 Speaker 30: somewhere and start a legacy was was big for me. 1883 01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,240 Speaker 30: I in in Detroit, I had a good I had 1884 01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,040 Speaker 30: a good run with him, I can't lie, had a 1885 01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,000 Speaker 30: good season with them, and you know, it was a 1886 01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:40,000 Speaker 30: lot of fun with those guys. But you know, ultimately 1887 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 30: I wanted to, you know, be somewhere where I felt 1888 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,360 Speaker 30: like I was a party, be somewhere where I felt 1889 01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:48,360 Speaker 30: like I could come here and build and you know, 1890 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,479 Speaker 30: I could be a a leader. And not to say 1891 01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,280 Speaker 30: I wasn't a leader there, but uh, you know, I 1892 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:57,080 Speaker 30: wanted to be somewhere that uh appreciated me and uh 1893 01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,360 Speaker 30: me and my family and made me feel welcome. Not 1894 01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,280 Speaker 30: to say not to throw any say it cause I 1895 01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:03,880 Speaker 30: I know I had like to twist things up and 1896 01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:05,880 Speaker 30: ye and I and I love Detroit. I I would 1897 01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,160 Speaker 30: never want to throw say the three one three. We 1898 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,960 Speaker 30: had a a great year and I I I know 1899 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,599 Speaker 30: how this goes. Uh, but you know, like I said, man, 1900 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,920 Speaker 30: you know in this league, there's a there's a short 1901 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,920 Speaker 30: time here, and you wanna make it really efficient. Uh 1902 01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,439 Speaker 30: and and and coming here. I understand the opportunity here. 1903 01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:27,040 Speaker 30: I understand it's a rebuild. I understand that you know, 1904 01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:31,400 Speaker 30: there's great coaches here and uh you know Detroit has 1905 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:32,880 Speaker 30: a a great thing going. But I feel like we 1906 01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:34,040 Speaker 30: can have a great thing going here. 1907 01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,479 Speaker 4: The last question major killing it. 1908 01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:38,799 Speaker 5: Carlton moultoms to New England. 1909 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:39,120 Speaker 31: Uh. 1910 01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,200 Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you about the time you played here. 1911 01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:42,800 Speaker 24: Described it as a historical place. 1912 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:43,960 Speaker 5: Obviously, Tom came. 1913 01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,040 Speaker 11: Back that nineteen twenty twenty one, you get a tackle 1914 01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:46,800 Speaker 11: past break up. 1915 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,920 Speaker 5: What do you remember about the environment in your. 1916 01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,360 Speaker 30: One game here and the way it was a crazy environment. 1917 01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:54,639 Speaker 30: One thing I do remember. I was talking about choir here, 1918 01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:58,800 Speaker 30: so not something that I wanna remember, but I was 1919 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:00,960 Speaker 30: having a good game up in til then and the 1920 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,800 Speaker 30: environment was electric. I had never played here before and 1921 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:08,160 Speaker 30: I didn't know how it would be coming coming here, 1922 01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,240 Speaker 30: you know. Uh, but it was like really really vibrant. 1923 01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,200 Speaker 30: Everybody was just I mean, obviously Tom's coming back, so 1924 01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,360 Speaker 30: why wouldn't it be, but it it definitely impressed me. 1925 01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,120 Speaker 30: The crowd was so into it, and it was like 1926 01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:22,400 Speaker 30: the lights just seemed a little bit brighter. I don't 1927 01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,280 Speaker 30: know why I did, it seemed a little bit brighter, 1928 01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:27,479 Speaker 30: but you know, I was impressed. 1929 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:28,200 Speaker 15: I was impressed. 1930 01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:29,080 Speaker 12: Uh, the crowd was. 1931 01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:29,720 Speaker 15: Really into it. 1932 01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,400 Speaker 30: You could feel the love of football in the city. 1933 01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,240 Speaker 30: I mean, I guess it helps that Tom came back 1934 01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:39,040 Speaker 30: and he hadn't been back since he left, but uh, yeah, 1935 01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,519 Speaker 30: I was impressed very much. 1936 01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:43,840 Speaker 5: Thank you. 1937 01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:48,519 Speaker 10: How d your head? 1938 01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:49,719 Speaker 4: If you have questions? Who have wits? 1939 01:30:49,880 --> 01:31:00,439 Speaker 28: You be here in the middle sorta what Let's start 1940 01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:02,840 Speaker 28: with how how the kids respond to that workout before? 1941 01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:06,519 Speaker 32: Uh? Uh, they know if I gotta work out, they 1942 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,920 Speaker 32: gotta pull they their own their own pockets too, so 1943 01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:11,280 Speaker 32: you know, It's part of being in the family business. 1944 01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,960 Speaker 32: So you know, I try to raise men at home. 1945 01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:16,519 Speaker 32: You know, I didn't have that when I was growing 1946 01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:18,360 Speaker 32: up that much. So being able to give that to 1947 01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:21,240 Speaker 32: them is vital to my DNA. So just being able 1948 01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:23,720 Speaker 32: to have boys and and show them the way it's 1949 01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:25,360 Speaker 32: always been my my my DNA. 1950 01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:27,760 Speaker 5: And in the follow up, Uh, what. 1951 01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,479 Speaker 6: Is it about this opportunity that appeal to you know? 1952 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,880 Speaker 32: Obviously, you know, playing a lot of ball over the 1953 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:37,040 Speaker 32: course of my career, you know, going in year twelve, man, 1954 01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,920 Speaker 32: you know obviously the the historic you know, the history 1955 01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,680 Speaker 32: of being the Patriot and obviously man, you know, y, 1956 01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,160 Speaker 32: I know the the question is coming about you know, 1957 01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,680 Speaker 32: what was the pitch of coming here? But when you 1958 01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:50,680 Speaker 32: got a guy like coach Rabel, Man, you don't need 1959 01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,200 Speaker 32: a pitch man, you know, cause I know how it 1960 01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,400 Speaker 32: is holding back the hold the bag for our offensive 1961 01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:56,840 Speaker 32: line and d lineman out there. I practice when I'm 1962 01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,960 Speaker 32: holding my son's my son's bags or I'm coaching his team, 1963 01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,600 Speaker 32: and h it hurts when you only got pads on. 1964 01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,600 Speaker 5: So you know, for a guy like that to go 1965 01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:06,439 Speaker 5: out there and do that, and. 1966 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:10,200 Speaker 32: Obviously he's won in most multiple advanceds of his career, 1967 01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,080 Speaker 32: you know, and as a player and as a coach. 1968 01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,320 Speaker 32: So when you got a guy that a leader of men, 1969 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,000 Speaker 32: that's willing to to step aside and put hisself on 1970 01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,320 Speaker 32: the line for the better good for the team, it's 1971 01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,920 Speaker 32: an easy decision, like your. 1972 01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:25,720 Speaker 31: Or in. 1973 01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,240 Speaker 11: It's a very young room right now. I know there's 1974 01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:30,240 Speaker 11: still work that could be done to to fill the room. 1975 01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:32,439 Speaker 5: You're the y I quote unquot the old guy, the 1976 01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:32,880 Speaker 5: veteran guy. 1977 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:34,240 Speaker 6: How how O g O G Oh? 1978 01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:39,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I how can you help those guys? You know, 1979 01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:41,160 Speaker 5: It's been part of my DNA. 1980 01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:41,439 Speaker 26: Man. 1981 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,200 Speaker 32: You know, I had great vets when I came into 1982 01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,400 Speaker 32: the league as Trent Williams and and guys like that. 1983 01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,080 Speaker 32: And you know, one thing he always told me as 1984 01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:49,960 Speaker 32: a player coming up through this league, man, make sure 1985 01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:50,760 Speaker 32: you pass it down. 1986 01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:52,840 Speaker 5: And that's been, you know, been a part of me. 1987 01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,479 Speaker 32: You know. Obviously I had you know, last year, I 1988 01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:58,000 Speaker 32: had Olu who was a first round draft pick, young guy, 1989 01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,360 Speaker 32: and he played multiple uh POM positions for us last year. 1990 01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:04,799 Speaker 32: So being able to take him and and and obviously 1991 01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,679 Speaker 32: just not take him and show him the way because 1992 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,439 Speaker 32: obviously it's just there's certain things that that he's done 1993 01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:12,400 Speaker 32: in college that I didn't get to do. Because the 1994 01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,960 Speaker 32: game is evolved so much, you wind up learning, you 1995 01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,920 Speaker 32: wind up learning yourself. And that's the thing is like 1996 01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,679 Speaker 32: when you're competing, whether it's in any facet of life, 1997 01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:23,280 Speaker 32: when you're able to teach somebody and show them things 1998 01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,080 Speaker 32: and you're able to learn in that room, it makes 1999 01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,519 Speaker 32: everybody better because that guy behind you is getting better 2000 01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,200 Speaker 32: every day. So you can't be a complacent player and 2001 01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,120 Speaker 32: be that same person. You gotta show up every day 2002 01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,880 Speaker 32: and make yourself better. So when you have that mentality 2003 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:38,400 Speaker 32: for a room, especially for an offensive line, because we operate, 2004 01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,760 Speaker 32: you know as one five equals one. We never leave 2005 01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:43,960 Speaker 32: the field. You know, those are the two positions quarterback 2006 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,519 Speaker 32: and in offensive line. We never leave the field. We're 2007 01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:48,800 Speaker 32: always on the field. We can't raise our hand and say, hey, coach, 2008 01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,439 Speaker 32: we need a water break. So it's very important for 2009 01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,439 Speaker 32: us to be able to work together, you know, not 2010 01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,479 Speaker 32: even on the field, but off the field as well, 2011 01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:58,960 Speaker 32: getting to know each other, you know, dinners and things 2012 01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:02,040 Speaker 32: like that, because I truly believe you know, if you 2013 01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:03,680 Speaker 32: don't know your brother's off the field, how can you 2014 01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,400 Speaker 32: go to battle with them on the field. So bringing 2015 01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,920 Speaker 32: that mentality as a older guy in the locker room 2016 01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:10,760 Speaker 32: and just bringing guys along and showing. 2017 01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,280 Speaker 5: Them the way, it's gonna be a great deal for us. 2018 01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:19,760 Speaker 20: Like more gah, congratulations l eleven NFL seasons. What has 2019 01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,479 Speaker 20: allowed you uh to stay healthy, to stay productive for 2020 01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:23,360 Speaker 20: after eleven years? 2021 01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,200 Speaker 32: I would say the biggest thing is just not s 2022 01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,519 Speaker 32: not staying complacent, you know, being able to come in 2023 01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:30,320 Speaker 32: and a and and learn different techniques, being willing to 2024 01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:33,000 Speaker 32: learn different techniques. And you know, obviously over my career, 2025 01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,600 Speaker 32: I've had great coaches. I had Bill Callahan when I 2026 01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,360 Speaker 32: was young in the league, and obviously he taught me 2027 01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,559 Speaker 32: a lot. And obviously you know his name rings Bells 2028 01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:41,080 Speaker 32: throughout the league that's offensive line. 2029 01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:42,800 Speaker 5: But also having veterans man. 2030 01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:44,760 Speaker 32: You know, last year I was with Tyron Smith, so 2031 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:46,320 Speaker 32: I got to learn a lot of things from him, 2032 01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,240 Speaker 32: you know, future Hall of Famer I I was with 2033 01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:48,920 Speaker 32: Trent Williams. 2034 01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:49,920 Speaker 5: I w it was Donald Penn. 2035 01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:52,120 Speaker 32: So when you get to take a little bit of 2036 01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,720 Speaker 32: you know, knowledge from everybody else and mix it in 2037 01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,160 Speaker 32: your own mixing bowl and come up with your own recipe, 2038 01:34:58,040 --> 01:34:59,920 Speaker 32: that's what you get, you get longevity in the NFL 2039 01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:01,599 Speaker 32: and just being able to take care of your body. 2040 01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:03,400 Speaker 5: Just know what you need. 2041 01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:05,320 Speaker 32: You know, now every time you can, you can go 2042 01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:06,920 Speaker 32: in the weight room and throw four hundred pounds on 2043 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,120 Speaker 32: the bench and bench pressure. Some days you need, you know, 2044 01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,080 Speaker 32: you might need pilates, you might need yoga, you might 2045 01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,360 Speaker 32: able to sprinkle some things in just so you know, 2046 01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:15,920 Speaker 32: just kind of just knowing your body and just learning 2047 01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,800 Speaker 32: your own regiment, fine tuning things, but just being a 2048 01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:20,960 Speaker 32: professional every day coming in. You know, even in the 2049 01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:22,840 Speaker 32: days that you don't you don't wanna come in, you know, 2050 01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:24,920 Speaker 32: those be those when you when you get down to 2051 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:26,840 Speaker 32: the work. You know, that's those are your best days 2052 01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:29,280 Speaker 32: when you come in. In those days you're a little 2053 01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:31,400 Speaker 32: sore and you don't feel like practicing. But you got 2054 01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:33,200 Speaker 32: a god like Milton that's not gonna slow down, you 2055 01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:34,800 Speaker 32: know what I'm saying, Cause he's still hungry, so he 2056 01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,160 Speaker 32: gonna challenge you every day. So that's what you want 2057 01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,040 Speaker 32: in those trenches. You know, I like likes like CD say, 2058 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:41,880 Speaker 32: you know, iron sharp and iron, and that's what we 2059 01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:43,840 Speaker 32: building here. We not we just not building a team, 2060 01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:44,879 Speaker 32: We building a brotherhood. 2061 01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,639 Speaker 6: What'd you find to talk with Morgan? 2062 01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:50,759 Speaker 5: Welcome UH to New England. 2063 01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:53,679 Speaker 24: Appreciate that you talk about your regiment from a specific 2064 01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,880 Speaker 24: diet and training standpoint. What can you give us some 2065 01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:58,560 Speaker 24: details though? What's allowed you to keep playing at a 2066 01:35:58,600 --> 01:35:59,439 Speaker 24: high level or thirty four? 2067 01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:02,080 Speaker 32: You know, you know obviously, you know, being in the trenches, man, 2068 01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:03,160 Speaker 32: you're always gonna get banged up. 2069 01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:03,320 Speaker 5: You know. 2070 01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:05,680 Speaker 32: Last year I dealt with a knee injury from week 2071 01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,320 Speaker 32: three on man and you know, just you know, sleeping 2072 01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:11,200 Speaker 32: in the hyperbaric chamber, getting up early morning it's five 2073 01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,200 Speaker 32: o'clock to go into the facility to make sure you 2074 01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,840 Speaker 32: know the train or see you doing your thing, and 2075 01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:17,760 Speaker 32: just you know, obviously you know, not every day you 2076 01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:19,600 Speaker 32: gonna feel well to be able to do everything. So 2077 01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:21,720 Speaker 32: you know, watching that tape, you know what I'm saying, 2078 01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:23,880 Speaker 32: and and and obviously being the a guy that's going 2079 01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:25,679 Speaker 32: in year twelve, I've never been scared of the actually 2080 01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:26,559 Speaker 32: younger guy I coach. 2081 01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:28,280 Speaker 5: You know, what can I do better? You know? 2082 01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,439 Speaker 32: So every every day just coming in with something to 2083 01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,880 Speaker 32: get you know, everybody thinks that this jump in the NFL, 2084 01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:35,080 Speaker 32: you gotta go from A to Z right here, But 2085 01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:36,960 Speaker 32: I wanna go to A to B and then go 2086 01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:39,200 Speaker 32: to Z. You know, as long as I stay at A, 2087 01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,160 Speaker 32: it doesn't matter as long as as much time as 2088 01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:42,680 Speaker 32: I stay at A, as long as I know when 2089 01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:44,760 Speaker 32: I leave A that I've completed that and I don't 2090 01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:45,599 Speaker 32: have to go backwards. 2091 01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:46,920 Speaker 5: I know I'm in the right step. 2092 01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,080 Speaker 32: So it's really just one ch of the time, man, 2093 01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:52,360 Speaker 32: you know, just taking taking time learning, learning ball And obviously, 2094 01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:54,880 Speaker 32: you know, we got a young talented quarterback back there, 2095 01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:57,920 Speaker 32: so being able to pick his brain, understand him, understand 2096 01:36:57,960 --> 01:36:59,400 Speaker 32: what he sees on the field so I can be 2097 01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,840 Speaker 32: better and my approach and blocking for him, you know. 2098 01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:05,840 Speaker 32: And obviously being in the league for a while, you know, 2099 01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:06,800 Speaker 32: I've seen a lot of things. 2100 01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:07,000 Speaker 5: You know. 2101 01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:10,200 Speaker 32: Obviously, you know defenses, they all run the same defense, 2102 01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:11,320 Speaker 32: just different personnel. 2103 01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:12,679 Speaker 5: You're never gonna have two in the same gap. 2104 01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:14,360 Speaker 32: So just being able to share that knowledge in that 2105 01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:17,439 Speaker 32: football IQ with him, you know, to help raise his game, 2106 01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:18,559 Speaker 32: is gonna make us a lot better. 2107 01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:24,679 Speaker 5: Help her last person, Hey Morgan back here, gotcha? Sorry, Hawaii. 2108 01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:30,200 Speaker 21: How important is it to this collective group of free 2109 01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:34,080 Speaker 21: agents to kind of as a group instill a culture 2110 01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,320 Speaker 21: and a sense of urgency. 2111 01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:37,760 Speaker 5: I guess. 2112 01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:39,880 Speaker 21: I mean Mike came here in two thousand and one 2113 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:41,960 Speaker 21: as part of a free agent group from a team 2114 01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,519 Speaker 21: that wasn't that good the year before, and then things 2115 01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,840 Speaker 21: really flipped because a lot of the guys who were 2116 01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:50,040 Speaker 21: brought in work together, it seemed in helping to instill 2117 01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,479 Speaker 21: a culture. Do you guys take that kind of maybe 2118 01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:53,640 Speaker 21: collective responsibility. 2119 01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,519 Speaker 32: You know, you don't need a miracle to win football games. 2120 01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:58,639 Speaker 32: You know, you just need to write people in the building. 2121 01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:01,760 Speaker 32: And obviously coach Very Vabele's here. You know we got 2122 01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,880 Speaker 32: the right people. You know, you know, our owner is 2123 01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:06,320 Speaker 32: an amazing owner. And then obviously you know we got 2124 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,439 Speaker 32: guys that's you know, CD wont in Super Bowl, Milton 2125 01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:11,600 Speaker 32: just wonted Super Bowl. They're gonna bring knowledge of the 2126 01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:13,680 Speaker 32: game on how to be longevity through those weeks of 2127 01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:16,840 Speaker 32: Week eighteen, nineteen twenty, when it when it hurts, right, 2128 01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,760 Speaker 32: when when when people wanna tap out? How to keep going? 2129 01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:21,960 Speaker 32: And so you know, it's important for us to be 2130 01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:25,080 Speaker 32: able to learn from one another. And everybody has different qualities. 2131 01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,120 Speaker 32: You know, Robert he told you know, eight years in 2132 01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:29,880 Speaker 32: the league as a as a a free agent without 2133 01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:31,680 Speaker 32: a tryout, you know, and he come in here and 2134 01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:34,200 Speaker 32: now he's one hundred and forty p tackles, you know, 2135 01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:35,080 Speaker 32: two years in a row. 2136 01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,200 Speaker 5: That doesn't happen overnight. That's preparation. 2137 01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:39,840 Speaker 32: That's dog, that's brotherhood, that's mentality that somebody that comes 2138 01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:41,800 Speaker 32: in the building every day to learn. So guys are 2139 01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,919 Speaker 32: gonna get around these guys and we're gonna talk football. 2140 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,240 Speaker 32: We're gonna talk IQ, We're gonna talk brotherhood. We're gonna 2141 01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:47,880 Speaker 32: learn about each other off the field and on the field. 2142 01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:49,920 Speaker 32: So when we get on the field, nothing that that 2143 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,880 Speaker 32: that comes at us. You known, no adversity that touches 2144 01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,240 Speaker 32: us on the field that's gonna be able to break us. 2145 01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:56,360 Speaker 32: Cause we gonna have an unbelievable bond. And so when 2146 01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,759 Speaker 32: we run out to that tunnel on Sundays, Mondays and Thursday, 2147 01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,559 Speaker 32: you gonna see something diff You gonna feel something different 2148 01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:03,080 Speaker 32: because we gonna go out there as a one unit, 2149 01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:04,639 Speaker 32: you know, and we're gonna play football together. 2150 01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:08,040 Speaker 5: Welcome, appreciate y'all. 2151 01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,360 Speaker 13: How's it going good? 2152 01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:22,120 Speaker 15: Alright? 2153 01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:22,600 Speaker 5: Thank you. 2154 01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:28,719 Speaker 28: Your growth the last two years as a player. 2155 01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:30,439 Speaker 6: What do you attribute that to? 2156 01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,040 Speaker 13: I have to say, and I always say It doesn't 2157 01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:37,080 Speaker 13: happen by accident. It doesn't happen overnight. This has been 2158 01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:42,519 Speaker 13: years in the making, years of intentional actions throughout every day, 2159 01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,080 Speaker 13: living my life a certain way to try to get 2160 01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:46,200 Speaker 13: to where I am right now. 2161 01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,040 Speaker 23: Here, Robert, Welcome to New England. What was about playing 2162 01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,280 Speaker 23: with Mike Rabel that you know made this an appealing 2163 01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:57,800 Speaker 23: spot for you. 2164 01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:04,439 Speaker 13: I've known Coach Rabel from a young age, from high 2165 01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:07,920 Speaker 13: school when he was a recruiter at Ohio State. Always 2166 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:11,320 Speaker 13: admired his playing career and his coaching career. When when 2167 01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,800 Speaker 13: you get around a guy like Coach Rabel, you really 2168 01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:18,280 Speaker 13: feel that intensity, you feel that passion, And I like 2169 01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,640 Speaker 13: to say I fall into that same boat of intensity 2170 01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:24,160 Speaker 13: and passion and heart. And so I've gotten along with 2171 01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:28,479 Speaker 13: him great in Tennessee and I can't wait to continue 2172 01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:29,520 Speaker 13: to form that relationship. 2173 01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:33,080 Speaker 5: Robert. 2174 01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,160 Speaker 27: Looking at your tape, one thing that jumps out is 2175 01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:37,160 Speaker 27: the fact that you were always getting your hands on passes. 2176 01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,720 Speaker 27: And I'm curious because in your preparation process and what 2177 01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,679 Speaker 27: do you attribute to being able to make somebody plays 2178 01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:42,360 Speaker 27: like that on the field. 2179 01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:45,040 Speaker 13: Yeah, quite a few different things. One of the things 2180 01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,840 Speaker 13: I study on the field is spatial awareness. So I 2181 01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:50,120 Speaker 13: like to know where I am on the field without 2182 01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,000 Speaker 13: having to open my eyes. So I do a lot 2183 01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:56,600 Speaker 13: of eyes closed training to be better spacially aware of 2184 01:40:56,680 --> 01:41:01,040 Speaker 13: where I'm going without having a look. Attribute the ball 2185 01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:04,799 Speaker 13: skills to playing offense, growing up as an offensive player, 2186 01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:09,320 Speaker 13: a running back, a receiver, always playing catch every single day. 2187 01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:11,519 Speaker 13: You'll see me out at practice twenty thirty minutes early, 2188 01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:13,920 Speaker 13: just because I love getting my hands on the football. 2189 01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:18,439 Speaker 13: That's how you're gonna essentially change the outcome of games, 2190 01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:22,760 Speaker 13: getting interceptions, forcing the ball out, getting PBUs TFLs, giving 2191 01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,920 Speaker 13: guys a chance like CD to go make players on 2192 01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:27,760 Speaker 13: third and long. So I pride myself on that. 2193 01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:35,120 Speaker 21: Sure, Robert, what do you want Patriots fans to know 2194 01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:37,120 Speaker 21: what that they can expect from you as a player 2195 01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:37,679 Speaker 21: and a person. 2196 01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,679 Speaker 13: Yeah, I want the patriotation to know that I'm gonna 2197 01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:44,000 Speaker 13: pour my heart into this city, into this community, into 2198 01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:47,600 Speaker 13: this team. I care deeply about what I do. I 2199 01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:51,960 Speaker 13: bring passion and heart every everywhere I go. I'm just 2200 01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:54,240 Speaker 13: so excited to get my feet in the building, get 2201 01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:57,880 Speaker 13: get started, get to know the guys before the guys 2202 01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:00,800 Speaker 13: want to hear what you have to say. You gotta 2203 01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,360 Speaker 13: make sure they feel like you you care for them. 2204 01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:06,519 Speaker 13: So I wanna make sure that my teammates know that 2205 01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,280 Speaker 13: I'm not here trying to get them. I just want 2206 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:10,720 Speaker 13: what's best for them at the end of the day. 2207 01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:13,200 Speaker 13: So I'm gonna pour my heart into my teammates. 2208 01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:22,400 Speaker 28: You've probably heard coach Rabel mention when you got a 2209 01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:25,439 Speaker 28: spot on the Titanus roster in twenty eighteen, and I 2210 01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:29,120 Speaker 28: imagine this contract that you just signed probably life changing 2211 01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:32,439 Speaker 28: in a different way, just putting those two things together. 2212 01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,360 Speaker 5: How would you describe your emotions? 2213 01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:37,640 Speaker 13: Yeah, well, coach Rabel said, Uh, I got hired in 2214 01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:40,160 Speaker 13: twenty eighteen on Mother's Day and I got to call 2215 01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:43,320 Speaker 13: my mom in tears saying I'm gonna be a professional 2216 01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:47,240 Speaker 13: football player. And uh today is her birthday. So I'm 2217 01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:50,920 Speaker 13: signing the contract on her birthday. And she's a very 2218 01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:53,759 Speaker 13: important special woman in my life, and I just wanna 2219 01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:54,599 Speaker 13: make her broad. 2220 01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:56,639 Speaker 5: Very much. 2221 01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:15,160 Speaker 11: Thank you, guys, gratulations building. 2222 01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:19,080 Speaker 33: So the report was you're close to signing with Carolina. 2223 01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:21,600 Speaker 33: You're here now, can you take us sort of the 2224 01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:23,800 Speaker 33: emotions of that. Did you think you were about to 2225 01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:26,679 Speaker 33: sign a piece of paper a to be a Carolina Panther. 2226 01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:31,919 Speaker 5: Uh, you know it's Uh, it was a fast process. 2227 01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:36,960 Speaker 5: My agent was telling me teams were interested, you know, 2228 01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:39,000 Speaker 5: once a number got to a certain point, a lot 2229 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:42,960 Speaker 5: of teams like dropped out and the Patriots was the 2230 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:47,639 Speaker 5: one that wanted me the most. So Uh I made 2231 01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:49,639 Speaker 5: a priority to come here. That made me a priority, 2232 01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:52,400 Speaker 5: and uh they value what I bring to the table 2233 01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:56,320 Speaker 5: as far as being a versus a player on the 2234 01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:58,320 Speaker 5: D line, a leader. 2235 01:43:59,200 --> 01:43:59,320 Speaker 32: Uh. 2236 01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:03,120 Speaker 5: Hard work her and yeah, they bl they believed in me. 2237 01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:04,720 Speaker 5: So I'm trying to give it back to 'em as 2238 01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:12,559 Speaker 5: much as I can for noble welping and doing them 2239 01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:13,320 Speaker 5: appreciate it. 2240 01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:15,960 Speaker 26: What's the most important thing that you've learned over the 2241 01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:18,040 Speaker 26: course of your career in Philadelphia and how do you 2242 01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:19,960 Speaker 26: plan on kind of putting it to. 2243 01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:20,839 Speaker 16: You to important? 2244 01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:22,240 Speaker 15: Uh? 2245 01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:29,200 Speaker 5: Hard work will never betray you and anything you know, Uh, 2246 01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,280 Speaker 5: you put your head down and work at something, you 2247 01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:35,880 Speaker 5: gonna end up being successful at it. So Uh, throughout 2248 01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:40,640 Speaker 5: my life, Uh, everything I've gotten has not been a 2249 01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:44,720 Speaker 5: hand out. I had to go above and beyond uh 2250 01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:49,120 Speaker 5: all expectations to get everything that I've earned to this point. 2251 01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:54,000 Speaker 5: So uh, I'm just blessed to be here. Uh blessed 2252 01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:58,320 Speaker 5: UH had the opportunity to represent such a winning organization. 2253 01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:00,439 Speaker 5: You know, you feel it once you once you come 2254 01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:04,400 Speaker 5: through these doors and you know the standard that UHM, 2255 01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,560 Speaker 5: the craft and coach Verbo that they set. Uh you 2256 01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:11,400 Speaker 5: feel that. So I just wanna try to continue to 2257 01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:13,840 Speaker 5: do that and build this team up to to uh 2258 01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:18,040 Speaker 5: bring more championships in front. 2259 01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,880 Speaker 22: I know the congratulations again, I sud I was just curious, 2260 01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:24,720 Speaker 22: uh hearing a part of Patriots history now and I 2261 01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,280 Speaker 22: at least signed the biggest contracts in franchise history. 2262 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:29,960 Speaker 29: Just what does that mean to have an organization like 2263 01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,600 Speaker 29: respect you in that way to want to reward you 2264 01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:34,040 Speaker 29: with something so big. 2265 01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:35,040 Speaker 12: And history making. 2266 01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:38,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a that's a blessing. Man. I didn't now 2267 01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:40,880 Speaker 5: I just won Super Bowl a couple couple weeks ago, 2268 01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,680 Speaker 5: so I thought that was like the biggest day of 2269 01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:45,679 Speaker 5: my life. But I feel part I I this probably 2270 01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:48,479 Speaker 5: gonna jump that for sure. You know, being on is 2271 01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:53,400 Speaker 5: uh the highest uh average salary or whatever the whatever 2272 01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:55,680 Speaker 5: you wanna call it. Uh, that's big man. You know, 2273 01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:59,160 Speaker 5: like I said, they believed in me. Obviously, they study 2274 01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:02,280 Speaker 5: me as a player and as a person. Uh, they 2275 01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:08,200 Speaker 5: know what I bring to the table. Uh, physicality, toughness, Uh, determination, 2276 01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:12,080 Speaker 5: and you know I thrive on people telling me I 2277 01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:12,800 Speaker 5: can't do something. 2278 01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:17,599 Speaker 11: So bring it on, Milton. 2279 01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:18,480 Speaker 23: Congratulations. 2280 01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:18,800 Speaker 10: Uh. 2281 01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:21,040 Speaker 23: Coach Rabel who was talking about in wanting to play 2282 01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:23,880 Speaker 23: you more than you played in Philadelphia? How'd you feel 2283 01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:24,160 Speaker 23: about that? 2284 01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:25,360 Speaker 12: And is that exciting for you? 2285 01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:29,280 Speaker 5: Definitely? Uh. The more you're out there, the more opportunity 2286 01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:32,320 Speaker 5: you got to make plays. And I pride myself on 2287 01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:35,439 Speaker 5: being productive from wherever I line up on h on 2288 01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:38,720 Speaker 5: the defensive line, and you know, I'm go'a bring it here. 2289 01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:44,280 Speaker 27: Oh, Milt, you broke out last year as a pass rusher, 2290 01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,320 Speaker 27: but also you've done some dirty work as a run defender. 2291 01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:48,360 Speaker 27: How important is it to you to be a well 2292 01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:50,559 Speaker 27: rounded player and what goes into that process of being 2293 01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:51,800 Speaker 27: that kind of well rounded figure. 2294 01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:52,519 Speaker 31: Uh. 2295 01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:55,479 Speaker 5: I just wanna be known as do it all, versatile 2296 01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,960 Speaker 5: Swiss army knife. Like I said, line up anywhere and 2297 01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:02,800 Speaker 5: be productive from any spot, run past, if I got 2298 01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:04,400 Speaker 5: a drop in coverage, I feel like I can do 2299 01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:08,200 Speaker 5: that wherever they need me to be, whatever they need 2300 01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:12,280 Speaker 5: me to do, I'm ready. I'm ready for the challenge. 2301 01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:15,360 Speaker 5: And what goes into that is just like I said, 2302 01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:18,120 Speaker 5: you know, hard work obviously with great coaches. 2303 01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:18,720 Speaker 31: Uh. 2304 01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:21,320 Speaker 5: You know, he played this game a long time now 2305 01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,360 Speaker 5: he coaching, so I'm obviously i'ma be picking his brain 2306 01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:27,479 Speaker 5: a lot, uh coach t uh. And then the players here, 2307 01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:30,120 Speaker 5: you know, find the vents, you know, picked their brain. 2308 01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,400 Speaker 5: I did a lot of that in Philadelphia with uh 2309 01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:38,280 Speaker 5: Brandon Graham, UH Jay von Hardgrave, Josh Sweat, uh Darry Barnett. 2310 01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:41,040 Speaker 5: These guys, you know, they they took me under the wing. 2311 01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:43,960 Speaker 5: UH taught me how to take care of my body 2312 01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:47,320 Speaker 5: and just going to practice and getting better every single day. 2313 01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:50,000 Speaker 5: And you know they lead to winning games and winning 2314 01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:53,400 Speaker 5: playoff games and two balls. So that's all I know. 2315 01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:59,240 Speaker 25: Hey, Bill, if you are asked to play more snaps hot, 2316 01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:01,800 Speaker 25: how will you try to maintain the level that you 2317 01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:05,240 Speaker 25: showed in Philadelphia while still being on the field a 2318 01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:05,960 Speaker 25: little bit more. 2319 01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:11,559 Speaker 5: Putting in work, putting in works playing and simple uh 2320 01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,160 Speaker 5: extra work, uh aksing the coaches, whatever I need to 2321 01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:19,160 Speaker 5: do to uh make sure I'm available for every game Sunday, 2322 01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:22,439 Speaker 5: like you said, Sunday, Monday, Thursday. I wanna be out there. 2323 01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:26,000 Speaker 5: I wanna be out there. Representing my teammates, this organization, 2324 01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:30,400 Speaker 5: and uh yeah, like I ain't gonna leave no stone 2325 01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:33,759 Speaker 5: unturned when it comes to uh preparing, Uh, being healthy, 2326 01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:36,280 Speaker 5: being in the best shape that I can be in, 2327 01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:40,640 Speaker 5: and being out there and being productive laws question of 2328 01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:41,240 Speaker 5: cure career. 2329 01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:46,439 Speaker 31: I know you're just coming off winning a super Bowl 2330 01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:51,840 Speaker 31: your first Uh during that ride, what what did you 2331 01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:54,599 Speaker 31: learn about what it takes to win. 2332 01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:58,520 Speaker 5: A Super Bowl? Resilience? 2333 01:48:59,800 --> 01:48:59,920 Speaker 16: Uh? 2334 01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:05,680 Speaker 5: Togetherness? Uh well, coach coach sitanaus to say, uh, you 2335 01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,439 Speaker 5: can't be great without the greatness of others and knowing 2336 01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:13,479 Speaker 5: that this is a team game, it's not about any individual, uh, 2337 01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:18,400 Speaker 5: and just being together as one, you know, like you 2338 01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:20,720 Speaker 5: were saying, uh, like most were saying, just having their 2339 01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:24,040 Speaker 5: brotherhood and building their bond you know, off the field. 2340 01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:28,560 Speaker 5: I feel like they carries on onto the field and no, 2341 01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:30,040 Speaker 5: you go out there and you play f play for 2342 01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:32,680 Speaker 5: one another even harder once you you know, get to 2343 01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:34,960 Speaker 5: know 'em and get to know their families and why 2344 01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:38,320 Speaker 5: they do what they do. So Uh yeah, I learned. 2345 01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:42,639 Speaker 5: I l learned that a lot in Philadelphia, Uh from 2346 01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:47,080 Speaker 5: coaches players. Uh yeah, obviously they been in a being 2347 01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:50,639 Speaker 5: being a wig, a winning organization, So coming over here 2348 01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:54,280 Speaker 5: is probably gonna just gonna be the same thing. Thanks 2349 01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:57,120 Speaker 5: pretty much, appreciate it. 2350 01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:00,160 Speaker 23: We'll bring uh the seven of you up here for 2351 01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:02,400 Speaker 23: photo op Evan if you can have your crew kind 2352 01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:03,839 Speaker 23: of help with the podium. 2353 01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:07,840 Speaker 4: All right, are we back? 2354 01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:11,720 Speaker 6: We are back here on in studio. It's Paul, it's 2355 01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:15,160 Speaker 6: alex Evan, and Duce will be coming back. Perhaps we'll 2356 01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:19,000 Speaker 6: have a guest stop in at some point, but let's go. 2357 01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:19,800 Speaker 5: Can I put it? 2358 01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:20,360 Speaker 6: Let's go? 2359 01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:22,320 Speaker 4: Can I put a request in for the guest? 2360 01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:22,840 Speaker 12: Yeah? 2361 01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:23,200 Speaker 6: Go ahead. 2362 01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:25,640 Speaker 4: Can we get Morgan Moses? Because I think I might 2363 01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:26,759 Speaker 4: need a new life coach. 2364 01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:30,960 Speaker 6: Elliott, if you're listening to me or our crack pr staff, 2365 01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:32,559 Speaker 6: we're requesting Morgan Moses. 2366 01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:34,960 Speaker 4: He was I told you on Tuesday he was my 2367 01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:37,280 Speaker 4: favorite signing. No doubling down on. 2368 01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:39,000 Speaker 6: I have some questions for him. 2369 01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:42,880 Speaker 4: He's my favorite signing and man is he impressive to 2370 01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:43,240 Speaker 4: listen to? 2371 01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:46,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, wisdom, he's great. And what I want to now 2372 01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:49,760 Speaker 6: if you just want to yeah, I know that. So 2373 01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:51,519 Speaker 6: we can see that in the background. 2374 01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:56,360 Speaker 4: So those of you putting numbers down Milton Williams ninety seven, what. 2375 01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:56,920 Speaker 6: Are they going to do? 2376 01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:58,320 Speaker 4: Robert fourteen. 2377 01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:03,880 Speaker 6: Oh, well, they're not gonna have the cap space next 2378 01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:05,000 Speaker 6: year that they have this year. 2379 01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:07,960 Speaker 4: I know that's sort of stuff that we talk about 2380 01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:08,760 Speaker 4: maybe off air. 2381 01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:14,360 Speaker 6: I'm just being funny anyway, funny anyway. No, but I 2382 01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,040 Speaker 6: this was a good crew that they brought up there. 2383 01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:20,519 Speaker 6: I mean, listen, I don't know these guys personally, but 2384 01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:26,839 Speaker 6: what people are saying about them in this first impression, 2385 01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:30,560 Speaker 6: they seem like character guys and great additions to the 2386 01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:34,519 Speaker 6: locker room. And don't underestimate that. With a new head 2387 01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:38,960 Speaker 6: coach here trying to, you know, reverse what's happened over 2388 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,200 Speaker 6: the last four or five years, that's not an easy 2389 01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:44,559 Speaker 6: job if you don't have guys who you could trust 2390 01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:47,320 Speaker 6: in the locker room to carry your message and to 2391 01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:50,280 Speaker 6: set the tone. And you know, you mentioned Morgan Moses 2392 01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:55,360 Speaker 6: number one. I think he comes in. He's obviously the 2393 01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:58,000 Speaker 6: elder statesman on the line, he's thirty four years old. 2394 01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:00,240 Speaker 6: But I think also in terms of just knowledge of 2395 01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:05,720 Speaker 6: the craft character, I think I'm hoping in one of 2396 01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:07,320 Speaker 6: the things I would ask him, if he's here, are 2397 01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:09,960 Speaker 6: you ready to accept that role? Are you ready to 2398 01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:10,479 Speaker 6: come in here? 2399 01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:13,040 Speaker 4: He seems like a guy who's going to take ownership. 2400 01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:13,120 Speaker 5: Of that room. 2401 01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:16,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, yeah, because we need that. We need that. 2402 01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:20,840 Speaker 6: So I'm excited about him. I'm excited about all of them. 2403 01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,280 Speaker 4: Frankly, listening to him and this is this is what 2404 01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:26,040 Speaker 4: his profile said, which is why I was so high 2405 01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:27,960 Speaker 4: on the signing in the first place. But listening to 2406 01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:31,640 Speaker 4: him makes me a little bit less anxious about the 2407 01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:34,759 Speaker 4: departure of David Andrews, because what I was worried about 2408 01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:38,240 Speaker 4: was exactly that. And again, you're right, we just met 2409 01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:41,800 Speaker 4: these guys, you know, just first impressions. I would say 2410 01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:44,840 Speaker 4: that based on how he sounded, he's a guy that's 2411 01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:48,240 Speaker 4: not afraid to lead, not afraid to you know, talk 2412 01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:51,519 Speaker 4: about the importance of being the five guys as one 2413 01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,400 Speaker 4: and all those things that Dante preached for years and years. 2414 01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:54,599 Speaker 5: Here. 2415 01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:56,960 Speaker 4: Very impressive to listen to me. 2416 01:52:57,040 --> 01:53:00,200 Speaker 10: I really like the stoicness about him too, you know, 2417 01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,080 Speaker 10: like it just like I said, it seems like he 2418 01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:04,040 Speaker 10: has a lot of wisdom. He's been around, he's been 2419 01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:06,120 Speaker 10: in this league a long time, a lot of experience. 2420 01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:07,679 Speaker 10: It's going to be great. 2421 01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:09,760 Speaker 6: No, and you talked to Alex earlier about you know, 2422 01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:14,360 Speaker 6: Andrew's participation in the community. Sounds like every one of 2423 01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:16,519 Speaker 6: these guys are going to be out there. Yeah, you 2424 01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,880 Speaker 6: know you'll be running into a lot of these guys 2425 01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:22,200 Speaker 6: at different events. We can only hope, right, I mean 2426 01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:26,640 Speaker 6: Bobby Splaine, I think Bobby, you know, he seems like 2427 01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:27,960 Speaker 6: he's ready to do it today. 2428 01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:29,200 Speaker 10: He looks like a company guy. 2429 01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:29,759 Speaker 4: The polo. 2430 01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:31,160 Speaker 6: You see all these. 2431 01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:34,800 Speaker 4: Guys guys come up and they they look like the 2432 01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:36,439 Speaker 4: guy who organized it for the team. 2433 01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:38,720 Speaker 6: Right, It's like, why did the guy for food and 2434 01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:39,400 Speaker 6: beverage get up? 2435 01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:39,920 Speaker 14: Lunch? 2436 01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:43,200 Speaker 6: Pale guy, but you could you could tell he's a 2437 01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:45,240 Speaker 6: heart I'm tired up. 2438 01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:48,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I told you, Like, this is the kind of 2439 01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:50,760 Speaker 4: guy that I've been talking about for a long time now. 2440 01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:52,680 Speaker 4: I don't know if Robert Splaine is going to be 2441 01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:56,240 Speaker 4: the guy, but I like the profile of these these 2442 01:53:56,479 --> 01:54:00,920 Speaker 4: like smaller, more athletic, lighter linebackers that can make plays 2443 01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:04,639 Speaker 4: in both the run game and pass game. We'll see 2444 01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:07,000 Speaker 4: if he does it with the Patriots. But that's I 2445 01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:08,720 Speaker 4: just think the way that the league is sort of 2446 01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:11,680 Speaker 4: trended over the last ten years or so is you know, 2447 01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:15,479 Speaker 4: these big run stuffing you know, plug the a gap 2448 01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:18,120 Speaker 4: hit the full back and you know Ted Johnson types. Yeah, 2449 01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:21,320 Speaker 4: kind of like a thing of yestery. 2450 01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:24,599 Speaker 6: And really competitive, you know, a lot of fire works, 2451 01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:27,599 Speaker 6: hard to get everything that he has. There's a guy, 2452 01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:29,200 Speaker 6: the guy in the Cavaliers. 2453 01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:31,120 Speaker 5: I love him. 2454 01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:34,160 Speaker 4: Who's the guy the best best player, Donovan Mitchell. 2455 01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:37,520 Speaker 6: Mitchell like he is such a competitor. He like I 2456 01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:41,480 Speaker 6: see like during breaks he's firing up his teammates. I 2457 01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:44,400 Speaker 6: see Splaine like that type of guy, like in a 2458 01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:48,640 Speaker 6: good way. Yeah, not like an Aaron Rodgers way, Like 2459 01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:51,880 Speaker 6: in a good way, like you know, positively let's go, 2460 01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:55,160 Speaker 6: you know, like always in their face, like giving words 2461 01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:58,080 Speaker 6: of encouragement, getting people, making sure people are into the 2462 01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:00,720 Speaker 6: game as much as he is. I see him as 2463 01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:05,200 Speaker 6: a real positive force on that defense. So this is great, 2464 01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:10,200 Speaker 6: good stuff. You know, when we had Landry yesterday, you know, 2465 01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:13,440 Speaker 6: he left town, he had to go. But some really 2466 01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:16,760 Speaker 6: good signings, uh you and yes, I know, you know, 2467 01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:19,240 Speaker 6: I've seen the emails a lot of people. They didn't 2468 01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:21,400 Speaker 6: get the left tackle, they didn't get the wide receiver. 2469 01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:24,720 Speaker 6: Yet there's a long way to go. As Rabel said, 2470 01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:29,960 Speaker 6: and he quoted Alonzo high Smith, Uh, there's gonna be 2471 01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,800 Speaker 6: people who will become available, and then you're gonna have 2472 01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,440 Speaker 6: to fight to get them because if there are any, 2473 01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:38,280 Speaker 6: if they're good, they have a big market, like Cooper 2474 01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:41,240 Speaker 6: Cup has a lot of people will be going after them, 2475 01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:44,200 Speaker 6: not just the Patriots. He didn't, he didn't, no reaction, 2476 01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:46,720 Speaker 6: He's no, he's he's engrossed in his texting. 2477 01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:51,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I would just say, like, yeah, there 2478 01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:54,440 Speaker 4: are gonna be more players available. I agree with Alonzo 2479 01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:58,160 Speaker 4: high Smith. I disagree that you're likely to get a 2480 01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:01,360 Speaker 4: player who just becomes available who is an impact player 2481 01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:06,240 Speaker 4: unless it's a trade for someone right, you know, big time, yep, 2482 01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:09,280 Speaker 4: that something happens, like like I used as an example, 2483 01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:12,560 Speaker 4: AJ Brown, that would be an impact guy. Generally at 2484 01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:17,080 Speaker 4: this time, you're gonna get sort of the leftovers in 2485 01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:19,920 Speaker 4: the transactions, which is okay. And I would also say, 2486 01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,360 Speaker 4: and this has sort of been bugging me a little 2487 01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:24,760 Speaker 4: bit since Monday, when they made all these moves, like 2488 01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:27,960 Speaker 4: the whole where's the left tackle, where's the wide receiver? 2489 01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:34,280 Speaker 4: Like the Patriots had upwards of twelve to fifteen significant 2490 01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:38,720 Speaker 4: needs on the roster, Like is it really realistic that 2491 01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:40,520 Speaker 4: you fill every single one of them in here? One 2492 01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:44,040 Speaker 4: that's like fans will not be satisfied unless every single 2493 01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:46,320 Speaker 4: player is rative. 2494 01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:48,600 Speaker 6: Well, that's great, but what about but what about? 2495 01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:49,320 Speaker 12: But what about? 2496 01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:51,600 Speaker 4: And listen, I'm not telling you that this was an 2497 01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:53,600 Speaker 4: A plus free agent class. I don't think it is. 2498 01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:56,160 Speaker 4: I would say like a like a C plus B minus. 2499 01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:59,440 Speaker 4: But they did a lot of good things on Monday, 2500 01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:02,400 Speaker 4: and I think that they've gone from a bad team 2501 01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:07,000 Speaker 4: to a potentially average one. Yeah, that's a huge jump. 2502 01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:09,600 Speaker 6: I give it a B plus because I'm also fatter. 2503 01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:10,400 Speaker 4: I'm fine. 2504 01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:13,400 Speaker 6: I'm also factoring in again the locker room stuff. I 2505 01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:16,280 Speaker 6: think it's important this first year, like we've got to 2506 01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:19,680 Speaker 6: flip the culture. You know, we've we've got to We've 2507 01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:22,240 Speaker 6: got to get this locker room to grow up. And 2508 01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:24,640 Speaker 6: I think this is a step to having a grown 2509 01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:27,160 Speaker 6: up locker room. I love you came from it. 2510 01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:27,720 Speaker 5: I was there. 2511 01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:28,440 Speaker 6: What do you say. 2512 01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:31,240 Speaker 5: I love what you were just saying. I'm seeing that's uh. 2513 01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:33,280 Speaker 8: I wasn't trying not to be seen. I was staying 2514 01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:34,600 Speaker 8: in the back. I think Evan's still up there trying 2515 01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:37,040 Speaker 8: to be seen. But no, I love you, just said 2516 01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:38,680 Speaker 8: fred I walked in on that. It's just, you know, 2517 01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:40,200 Speaker 8: Moses to me. 2518 01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:43,640 Speaker 4: We were all talking, ay wave, I've already taken my 2519 01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:44,240 Speaker 4: really all right? 2520 01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:44,400 Speaker 34: Cool? 2521 01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:45,600 Speaker 9: Well, now see this is what I kind of like. 2522 01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:47,320 Speaker 8: This is sometimes on the post game show, Paul and 2523 01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:49,400 Speaker 8: I will watch the game in different locations, usually the 2524 01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:51,880 Speaker 8: pregame or in the preseason. But you know, you guys 2525 01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:53,640 Speaker 8: have reactions and you know, and then separate and you 2526 01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:57,160 Speaker 8: bring them together. But I just impressed with Moses. I thought, 2527 01:57:57,280 --> 01:57:59,920 Speaker 8: this is what this team needs, this kind of steadiness, 2528 01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:02,880 Speaker 8: and you know his talk about brotherhood, and you know, 2529 01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:04,920 Speaker 8: I thought they were all in mind with what Rabel's 2530 01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:07,680 Speaker 8: message has been preaching about getting to know each other 2531 01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:10,520 Speaker 8: as people and you know, valuing their families and you know, 2532 01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:12,520 Speaker 8: getting to know those people who are all with them 2533 01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:14,680 Speaker 8: and had their own you know, separate section that they 2534 01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:19,160 Speaker 8: were all sitting in as well. Carlton Davis a little quiet, 2535 01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:21,920 Speaker 8: little cool, uh, you know, kind of cornerback vibe to me, 2536 01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:24,840 Speaker 8: you know, short memory. Robert s Plain seemed a little nervous, 2537 01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:28,480 Speaker 8: but you can tell that little psychotic No, he's got it. 2538 01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:29,880 Speaker 8: He's got to hold it back because you can tell 2539 01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:31,480 Speaker 8: he's about he'd like I'll hit somebody. 2540 01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:32,080 Speaker 4: Right, He's ready to go. 2541 01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:33,160 Speaker 5: He's ready to go. 2542 01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:36,080 Speaker 4: People have described him as he plays with his hair 2543 01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:36,480 Speaker 4: on fire. 2544 01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:39,360 Speaker 8: Evidently he was just like, I know, he's like, I'm 2545 01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:40,480 Speaker 8: trying to keep it calm right now. 2546 01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:40,960 Speaker 12: Uh. 2547 01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:43,480 Speaker 8: And my last thought with Milton Williams is like, we 2548 01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:45,480 Speaker 8: got a dog to go hunt some quarterbacks now that 2549 01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:47,040 Speaker 8: he seemed like a serious dude. 2550 01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:50,200 Speaker 9: Uh, he's he doesn't, you know, seem to be resting 2551 01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:50,960 Speaker 9: on any laurels. 2552 01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:53,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, those two guys bring them out serious. 2553 01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:54,040 Speaker 20: Uh. 2554 01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:55,960 Speaker 8: And I mean i'd say kind of with all of them, 2555 01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:58,960 Speaker 8: but especially Moses and Milton Williams. If you're a fan 2556 01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:02,320 Speaker 8: of defense, this is the kind of personality that you 2557 01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:04,440 Speaker 8: want from these kind of guys to come out. 2558 01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:06,680 Speaker 9: And so it's it's it's good, you know, it's just 2559 01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:08,560 Speaker 9: these these it happens every spring. 2560 01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:10,480 Speaker 8: This is very re energizing and you get these new 2561 01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:13,280 Speaker 8: personalities onto the team and you know you have such 2562 01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:15,240 Speaker 8: high hopes for them and of what they can be. 2563 01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:17,600 Speaker 8: But at the moment, I think they're all hitting the 2564 01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:20,120 Speaker 8: right tone of what this team needs right now as 2565 01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:21,720 Speaker 8: far as what they're going to bring. And I thought 2566 01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:24,440 Speaker 8: that was you know, consistent message, whether it was Robert 2567 01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:26,640 Speaker 8: up there, Elliott Vrabel. They all kind of were saying 2568 01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:27,040 Speaker 8: the same thing. 2569 01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:27,960 Speaker 9: So yeah, it was it was good. 2570 01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:28,440 Speaker 5: It was good. 2571 01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:31,800 Speaker 6: Yep, Bill in San Diego wants to be the wet rag. 2572 01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:35,520 Speaker 6: Did anyone else get the same? I didn't choose New England, 2573 01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:38,680 Speaker 6: they chose me. Vibe from both Davis and Williams didn't 2574 01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:41,400 Speaker 6: sound like either really wanted to be here, and if 2575 01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:44,560 Speaker 6: another offer had been equal, were better, they'd have signed elsewhere. 2576 01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:48,360 Speaker 4: So with Williams, he did specifically say something to the 2577 01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:50,280 Speaker 4: effect of the Patriots wanted me the most. 2578 01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:50,640 Speaker 23: Yep. 2579 01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:51,440 Speaker 12: Yeah. 2580 01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:53,280 Speaker 4: Now, if you want to take that as a negative, 2581 01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:56,720 Speaker 4: I guess I'm not here to tell you how you 2582 01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:57,360 Speaker 4: should feel. 2583 01:59:57,680 --> 01:59:57,960 Speaker 5: I don't. 2584 01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:00,200 Speaker 4: I didn't take that as a negative. I didn't, you know, 2585 02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:02,920 Speaker 4: like I felt like the Patriots identified someone. 2586 02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:04,800 Speaker 6: You're more appreciative to the team that wants to But. 2587 02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:07,480 Speaker 4: I felt like the Patriots identified someone who was the 2588 02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:10,200 Speaker 4: most attractive. You know, let's call him one of the 2589 02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:13,240 Speaker 4: three most attractive candidates and free agency right that was 2590 02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:15,480 Speaker 4: out there. The Patriots identified him and then went after him. 2591 02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:19,080 Speaker 4: They wanted them, They didn't middle it. They didn't do 2592 02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:21,720 Speaker 4: the red Sox thing where they expressed interest and become 2593 02:00:21,760 --> 02:00:24,280 Speaker 4: the Interest Kings. They went after a guy that they 2594 02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:26,520 Speaker 4: wanted it, and they made sure they got them because 2595 02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:27,360 Speaker 4: they wanted them the most. 2596 02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:31,400 Speaker 10: Makes so much money that like, at the end of 2597 02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:34,640 Speaker 10: the day, like unless an offer is far and a wide, 2598 02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:37,720 Speaker 10: like way way, way more than they're going to get 2599 02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:41,320 Speaker 10: anyone else. Like, is the money that big of a 2600 02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:44,560 Speaker 10: detail if you hate a play so much, Yeah. 2601 02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:47,720 Speaker 4: I guess I'll go. I don't know about the hate part. 2602 02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:49,640 Speaker 4: I do think that the Patriots offered him far and 2603 02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:51,960 Speaker 4: away the most money, because I think that's a reason 2604 02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:55,360 Speaker 4: why he almost or was linked to Carolina, Right, I 2605 02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:57,960 Speaker 4: think the Patriots swooped in and blew them away. But 2606 02:00:58,960 --> 02:00:59,800 Speaker 4: that doesn't mean it's. 2607 02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:00,600 Speaker 5: Bad no matter what. 2608 02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:03,720 Speaker 10: Like they're getting generational wealth right wherever they. 2609 02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:10,240 Speaker 6: You know, after listening this is Joel and san Antonio 2610 02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:13,280 Speaker 6: after listening to the new guys talk and agreeing that 2611 02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:16,800 Speaker 6: they are high character guys. Where were these high character 2612 02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:19,160 Speaker 6: guys last year when Mayo was building his team? Is 2613 02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:21,760 Speaker 6: this another failure by him? Okay, so it's a it's 2614 02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:24,600 Speaker 6: a fair question. And I think Vrabel, well, I don't 2615 02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:26,920 Speaker 6: know if he addressed her, but it's been like they 2616 02:01:26,960 --> 02:01:31,680 Speaker 6: didn't have the network that Vrabel has in Terrell Williams. 2617 02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:33,240 Speaker 4: And they chose to do it in a different way. 2618 02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:35,320 Speaker 6: Right, they don't, but they didn't have They. 2619 02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:38,600 Speaker 4: Wanted their their culture, their character. They wanted to say, 2620 02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:40,480 Speaker 4: it's going to be all the guys that are here, 2621 02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:43,080 Speaker 4: and they decided to re up them, all right. They 2622 02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:45,320 Speaker 4: went with what they knew when they felt like they 2623 02:01:45,320 --> 02:01:48,800 Speaker 4: could rely on. I just don't think I think it's 2624 02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:52,600 Speaker 4: very easy to use the words character and uh, you know, 2625 02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:56,800 Speaker 4: culture and that stuff. Do you think Dan Campbell has 2626 02:01:56,880 --> 02:01:58,600 Speaker 4: established a great culture in Detroit? 2627 02:01:58,880 --> 02:01:59,040 Speaker 5: Yes? 2628 02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:01,440 Speaker 4: What do you think the Patriots record last year? And 2629 02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:03,640 Speaker 4: if Dan Campbell was the head coach would have been 2630 02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:07,800 Speaker 4: home that first year last year? Okay, I would have 2631 02:02:07,840 --> 02:02:12,200 Speaker 4: said four and thirteen. Okay, Culture in character and all 2632 02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:15,040 Speaker 4: that is very important, but it doesn't mean anything if 2633 02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:18,240 Speaker 4: you don't have any ability. So they identified a bunch 2634 02:02:18,280 --> 02:02:20,840 Speaker 4: of guys last year that they thought would be their 2635 02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:22,800 Speaker 4: character guys. I think some of them are a little 2636 02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:25,400 Speaker 4: past their primes. Some of them, quite frankly, didn't live 2637 02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:26,640 Speaker 4: up to it. And I would say, like a guy 2638 02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:28,840 Speaker 4: like Kyle Dugger had a rough year. I don't know 2639 02:02:28,840 --> 02:02:31,160 Speaker 4: if it was injury related or not. He didn't play 2640 02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:33,680 Speaker 4: as well as they sort of hoped he would. Right 2641 02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:37,680 Speaker 4: those kinds of plays in and around. They didn't attack 2642 02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:42,480 Speaker 4: free agency like this. They the Patriots right now went 2643 02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:46,400 Speaker 4: out and got as Fred said on Tuesday, five starters 2644 02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:50,040 Speaker 4: and free agency. The Patriots didn't attack free agency last 2645 02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:52,120 Speaker 4: year like that. They chose to read up a lot 2646 02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:55,120 Speaker 4: of what they had. Two totally different philosophies, but I 2647 02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:58,600 Speaker 4: think they both wanted character in you know, in culture. 2648 02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:00,640 Speaker 6: But do you think the reason why last year they 2649 02:03:00,680 --> 02:03:02,480 Speaker 6: did it the way they did it because they couldn't 2650 02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:06,040 Speaker 6: do it this way? Rabel said, I don't see free 2651 02:03:06,080 --> 02:03:09,040 Speaker 6: agency unless you have that familiarity with guys. 2652 02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:11,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they could have if they wanted to. 2653 02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:14,200 Speaker 4: They chose not to. H that's my choice. 2654 02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:14,480 Speaker 15: Now. 2655 02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:17,720 Speaker 4: I know that Elliott is sort of thrown some shade 2656 02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:20,000 Speaker 4: on that from last year, saying, like, you know, we 2657 02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:22,880 Speaker 4: didn't get great intel or something along those lines at 2658 02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:26,080 Speaker 4: the combine when he spoke with you guys, Mike, you know, 2659 02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:29,040 Speaker 4: I think they could have done I think they chose 2660 02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:31,600 Speaker 4: not to. Now, maybe they chose not to because of 2661 02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:33,800 Speaker 4: what Fred said. They just didn't have enough knowledge on 2662 02:03:33,880 --> 02:03:36,680 Speaker 4: those guys to invest big money. But I mean I 2663 02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:38,800 Speaker 4: think they tried to. I think they tried to get 2664 02:03:38,840 --> 02:03:41,520 Speaker 4: Calvin Ridley. I think they tried to explore a trade 2665 02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:44,320 Speaker 4: for Brandon Ayuk. I think they tried to get Christian Wilkins. 2666 02:03:45,320 --> 02:03:47,120 Speaker 4: They didn't. They weren't able to put him in. These 2667 02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:48,240 Speaker 4: guys were able to bring him in. 2668 02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:48,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2669 02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:51,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the connection to Brabel too seems like 2670 02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:53,560 Speaker 8: it carried some weight. I mean, that was what Morgan 2671 02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:56,880 Speaker 8: Moses said about immediately pointing out, this guy's ready to 2672 02:03:56,920 --> 02:03:58,320 Speaker 8: come out, put the pads on and mix it up 2673 02:03:58,320 --> 02:03:58,600 Speaker 8: with us. 2674 02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:00,640 Speaker 9: The same thing with Spilene. I mean, I didn't know 2675 02:04:00,680 --> 02:04:02,360 Speaker 9: he was gonna cry or like just run through a 2676 02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:03,560 Speaker 9: wall at that moment. 2677 02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:05,720 Speaker 4: But you could tell how great said when he was done. 2678 02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:07,800 Speaker 4: It was like Disney movie vibes on that one. 2679 02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:09,960 Speaker 9: Right right, I'm just gonna pour my heart in the city. 2680 02:04:10,440 --> 02:04:12,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna call my mother or a mother's day and 2681 02:04:12,240 --> 02:04:13,120 Speaker 4: tell I got a job. 2682 02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:15,680 Speaker 3: Now it's his mother's now it was his mother's birthday. 2683 02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:17,720 Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's it is. It's a great story. 2684 02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:20,680 Speaker 8: And you know, these guys just are all and it's 2685 02:04:20,720 --> 02:04:22,680 Speaker 8: hard to say because a lot of players can come up. 2686 02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:25,120 Speaker 4: I thought it was awesome. You know me, I'm like 2687 02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:27,640 Speaker 4: a cynical not a hater, but I'm cynical. 2688 02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:29,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, but they all seem they all come off like 2689 02:04:29,880 --> 02:04:32,680 Speaker 8: what they are, which is NFL veterans who played football. 2690 02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:35,880 Speaker 8: Two of the guys have won championships. You heard Morgan 2691 02:04:35,960 --> 02:04:39,360 Speaker 8: Moses rattle off all the different tackles that he's played 2692 02:04:39,400 --> 02:04:41,160 Speaker 8: with over the course of his career. That are all, 2693 02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:43,560 Speaker 8: you know, Hall of Fame type players. So I just 2694 02:04:43,600 --> 02:04:46,040 Speaker 8: think that experience that and that's what has to come in. 2695 02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:47,320 Speaker 6: It's it's a weird spot to be in. 2696 02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:49,320 Speaker 8: You're so used to having all the guys who won 2697 02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:51,880 Speaker 8: the Super Bowls already here, and now we're talking about 2698 02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:53,400 Speaker 8: you know, we got two guys coming in or just 2699 02:04:53,600 --> 02:04:54,080 Speaker 8: have won. 2700 02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:54,960 Speaker 9: Super Bowls recently. 2701 02:04:55,200 --> 02:04:56,560 Speaker 8: You know, It's it's a little bit of a different 2702 02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:58,520 Speaker 8: position to be in, but it's a good one. And 2703 02:04:58,600 --> 02:05:00,680 Speaker 8: I think it's yeah, they need I want to go 2704 02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:03,640 Speaker 8: back to something Paul said, and I agree. You know, 2705 02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:05,800 Speaker 8: character without talent isn't gonna get you much. 2706 02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:08,680 Speaker 6: Sure you're not gonna you know, but I will also 2707 02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:10,240 Speaker 6: say that you can have a lock of a room 2708 02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:12,760 Speaker 6: full of talented guys, and if they're bad character guys, 2709 02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:13,800 Speaker 6: that place can go south. 2710 02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:15,320 Speaker 4: You're not going to be as good as you should be. 2711 02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:18,120 Speaker 4: I can underachieve. I would agree with that as well, Fred, Yeah, 2712 02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:19,200 Speaker 4: you need both. 2713 02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:22,680 Speaker 6: You need both. And I think last year not that 2714 02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:25,760 Speaker 6: they were bad character guys, but they were. There was 2715 02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,680 Speaker 6: a lot of immaturity, I think, and not a lot 2716 02:05:28,720 --> 02:05:29,320 Speaker 6: of leadership. 2717 02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:31,520 Speaker 4: I think a lot of those guys were good character guys. 2718 02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:34,520 Speaker 4: They weren't good enough players, right. It's kind of my point, like, 2719 02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:36,760 Speaker 4: I don't think that Jonathan Jones is a bad character 2720 02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:39,680 Speaker 4: guy or David Andrews or Dietrich Wise. They just were 2721 02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:42,200 Speaker 4: good enough at this stage of their career. 2722 02:05:42,440 --> 02:05:44,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I think you got the sense with that 2723 02:05:44,440 --> 02:05:46,160 Speaker 8: team though, is that never did they reach a point 2724 02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:48,120 Speaker 8: where they were all pulling together. It was a lot 2725 02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:51,440 Speaker 8: of different factions pulling in different directions. And maybe some 2726 02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:54,320 Speaker 8: groups were tight, but other groups didn't seem tight. And 2727 02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:56,480 Speaker 8: you know, I think that's a challenge of the coaching 2728 02:05:56,520 --> 02:05:58,840 Speaker 8: staff to bring those guys together and all and all 2729 02:05:58,880 --> 02:05:59,720 Speaker 8: get them to work together. 2730 02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:01,160 Speaker 9: And that's a lot of what you heard today up 2731 02:06:01,200 --> 02:06:01,680 Speaker 9: there from them. 2732 02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:03,360 Speaker 4: Yep, good stuff. 2733 02:06:03,880 --> 02:06:08,560 Speaker 6: Good time to pay some bills. 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Plan your revolutionary weekend at 2745 02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:57,280 Speaker 6: Massachusetts two fifty dot org. Because Massachusetts is better than Michigan. 2746 02:06:58,160 --> 02:07:00,440 Speaker 17: That's my own Taboine tied it all together there. 2747 02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:03,640 Speaker 10: And on that note, I'm studio you guys have. And 2748 02:07:03,720 --> 02:07:05,960 Speaker 10: if you get Morgan Moses, ask him who makes his song, 2749 02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:06,920 Speaker 10: who makes his glass? 2750 02:07:07,560 --> 02:07:08,120 Speaker 6: What you're wearing. 2751 02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:11,280 Speaker 8: He's got a presence about him. Man, He's a he's 2752 02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:13,200 Speaker 8: a big dude. That's exactly what you want. I think 2753 02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:16,640 Speaker 8: from a right tackle. You know, that's just right there. 2754 02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:20,560 Speaker 8: Excited to have him in the room though, especially coming 2755 02:07:20,640 --> 02:07:22,720 Speaker 8: right on the heels of losing losing David Andrews, to 2756 02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:25,240 Speaker 8: have just a guy who has that kind of presence 2757 02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:27,720 Speaker 8: and you know, you can tell hopefully those young kids 2758 02:07:27,760 --> 02:07:29,400 Speaker 8: in that room, which we talked about at the beginning 2759 02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:31,360 Speaker 8: of the show, can we just get one. 2760 02:07:31,280 --> 02:07:33,400 Speaker 9: Of those guys to emerge as a starter this year? 2761 02:07:33,480 --> 02:07:35,120 Speaker 8: And I think that's the kind of guy you want 2762 02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:37,440 Speaker 8: to have in your locker room to provide that leadership, 2763 02:07:37,560 --> 02:07:39,680 Speaker 8: just like it was provided to him by guys like 2764 02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:40,720 Speaker 8: Tyron Smith last year. 2765 02:07:40,960 --> 02:07:43,040 Speaker 6: Mark and Quebec writes and Paul and I were arguing 2766 02:07:43,040 --> 02:07:45,920 Speaker 6: about Cooper Cup. He said, DeAndre. 2767 02:07:45,640 --> 02:07:48,160 Speaker 4: Hopkins, well, not really arguing. It's one of those things. 2768 02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:52,240 Speaker 6: DeAndre Hopkins just signed a one year deal in Baltimore 2769 02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:55,000 Speaker 6: for five million. Hollywood Brown re up with Casey for 2770 02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:57,120 Speaker 6: six point eight five million on a one year deal. 2771 02:07:57,520 --> 02:07:59,680 Speaker 4: I think Cup gang neither one of them were highway 2772 02:07:59,680 --> 02:08:00,880 Speaker 4: saw it after. I would agree with you. 2773 02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:03,480 Speaker 6: I think Cup getting ten million, as Fred suggested, would 2774 02:08:03,480 --> 02:08:05,920 Speaker 6: be pretty decent value for both him and whichever team 2775 02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:08,720 Speaker 6: signs him. With the unknowns around his health in production. 2776 02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:11,640 Speaker 6: Any of these three receivers would be our top receiver 2777 02:08:11,840 --> 02:08:14,560 Speaker 6: next year with the current roster and help may grow 2778 02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:17,880 Speaker 6: rather than have another year with a well below average receiving. 2779 02:08:18,280 --> 02:08:20,240 Speaker 4: So that's two different things. I agree with the second 2780 02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:23,240 Speaker 4: part of that, Cooper Cup would be their best receiver. Yeah, 2781 02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:25,959 Speaker 4: because you don't have any receivers. 2782 02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:27,160 Speaker 5: That's true. 2783 02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:29,720 Speaker 4: He would be their best. You have receivers, but you 2784 02:08:29,800 --> 02:08:31,080 Speaker 4: don't have any real ones. Yeah. 2785 02:08:31,120 --> 02:08:33,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I'd be fine with Cooper Cup. I'm 2786 02:08:33,400 --> 02:08:35,440 Speaker 8: not pounding the tape you having to have him, but 2787 02:08:35,560 --> 02:08:37,160 Speaker 8: I would connect it to what I just said about 2788 02:08:37,200 --> 02:08:40,680 Speaker 8: Morgan Moses. I feel like, here's a guy who knows 2789 02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:43,360 Speaker 8: what it takes in that wide receiver room and somebody 2790 02:08:43,400 --> 02:08:45,080 Speaker 8: who's going to work his butt off and set the 2791 02:08:45,160 --> 02:08:47,680 Speaker 8: tone in it. Does he still have the same ability 2792 02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:49,440 Speaker 8: that he maybe had a few years ago. Maybe not, 2793 02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:52,440 Speaker 8: but I think that's worth a lot, and I'd still 2794 02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:53,480 Speaker 8: be happy to take a flyer on. 2795 02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:56,280 Speaker 6: I've got a couple callers here on the hotline. They've 2796 02:08:56,280 --> 02:08:58,280 Speaker 6: been holding on for the entirety of this show, so 2797 02:08:58,440 --> 02:08:59,840 Speaker 6: I don't know if they're going to be here, but 2798 02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:02,840 Speaker 6: will take a shot Danny's and Daytona. What's up Danny? 2799 02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:08,000 Speaker 6: Can you guys hear we can and you you win 2800 02:09:08,080 --> 02:09:11,040 Speaker 6: the award for the person who's hung on the longest ever. 2801 02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:13,560 Speaker 4: Ever two hours about Toshaun? 2802 02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:14,360 Speaker 6: What's up, Danny? 2803 02:09:14,640 --> 02:09:16,400 Speaker 35: Yeah, what's going on? 2804 02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:16,720 Speaker 36: Guys? 2805 02:09:16,760 --> 02:09:18,680 Speaker 35: I didn't mind waiting a couple of hours, so I 2806 02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:20,160 Speaker 35: just got a couple of things to talk. 2807 02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:20,760 Speaker 34: To you guys about. 2808 02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:25,600 Speaker 35: Yeah, I would say, like Paul was saying earlier, I 2809 02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:28,640 Speaker 35: give the draft a B minus on the draft or 2810 02:09:28,880 --> 02:09:32,800 Speaker 35: not the draft, excuse me? The free agency B minus 2811 02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:36,720 Speaker 35: on that the picks for decent. I Uh, there's a 2812 02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:39,280 Speaker 35: lot of people talking about how they think it was 2813 02:09:39,320 --> 02:09:41,920 Speaker 35: a bad free agency because they didn't get offensive players. 2814 02:09:42,280 --> 02:09:42,440 Speaker 13: You know. 2815 02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:46,480 Speaker 35: The draft still coming up, as everyone has stated, and 2816 02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:49,440 Speaker 35: and uh what they said, and then the press covers. 2817 02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:53,040 Speaker 35: I think they'll find a left tackle and a receiver. 2818 02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:56,040 Speaker 35: I'll be happy when they do that. One other thing 2819 02:09:56,600 --> 02:09:59,720 Speaker 35: I'd like to add, I'm happy they didn't get the 2820 02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:02,920 Speaker 35: fun they Adam and all these other players that people 2821 02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:03,880 Speaker 35: were talking about they wanted. 2822 02:10:04,160 --> 02:10:04,520 Speaker 15: I do'm not. 2823 02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:07,360 Speaker 35: I know, Paul, you're interested in the Cooper Cup. I 2824 02:10:07,600 --> 02:10:10,040 Speaker 35: like him as a veteran, but I really don't want 2825 02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:12,680 Speaker 35: to kick these tires on these old players. I like 2826 02:10:12,760 --> 02:10:16,320 Speaker 35: that they're trying to get young and they're trying to 2827 02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:18,960 Speaker 35: bring in some experienced guys to to kind of help 2828 02:10:19,040 --> 02:10:20,200 Speaker 35: the teams. I think that's great. 2829 02:10:20,840 --> 02:10:22,480 Speaker 37: I do like how they're doing this little. 2830 02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:25,120 Speaker 35: Format of bring these players and introducing them. I think 2831 02:10:25,200 --> 02:10:29,120 Speaker 35: that's cool. But that's that's basically all my take, and 2832 02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:29,920 Speaker 35: I'll take it off there. 2833 02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:33,000 Speaker 6: Okay, thanks Danny. Listen to be clear, if they get 2834 02:10:33,040 --> 02:10:34,400 Speaker 6: Cooper Cup, they're not done. 2835 02:10:34,480 --> 02:10:34,840 Speaker 13: I hope. 2836 02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:36,200 Speaker 6: I mean, he's not the answer. 2837 02:10:36,560 --> 02:10:40,360 Speaker 4: I just think for now they probably are. But yes, 2838 02:10:40,440 --> 02:10:42,080 Speaker 4: I agree with you. They're not going to say, like, well, 2839 02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:43,840 Speaker 4: we have Cooper Cups, so we're all set. We're gonna 2840 02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:44,520 Speaker 4: be super Bowl bound. 2841 02:10:44,640 --> 02:10:44,720 Speaker 16: Right. 2842 02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:45,720 Speaker 4: They're not gonna do that. 2843 02:10:45,880 --> 02:10:49,880 Speaker 6: Right, Let's go to DeShawn and Virginia who held on 2844 02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:51,440 Speaker 6: equally long. What's up to Sean? 2845 02:10:54,160 --> 02:10:54,520 Speaker 12: All right? 2846 02:10:56,640 --> 02:10:56,800 Speaker 10: Yes? 2847 02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:57,880 Speaker 37: What do I want to stick on? 2848 02:10:58,080 --> 02:10:58,200 Speaker 4: Far? 2849 02:10:58,400 --> 02:10:59,960 Speaker 37: Like when it comes to the draft. One time I'm 2850 02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:02,520 Speaker 37: really worried about it is that now all this mixed 2851 02:11:02,560 --> 02:11:04,200 Speaker 37: up with the off line of stuff, I'm kind of 2852 02:11:04,280 --> 02:11:07,720 Speaker 37: really worried about that they might have to say the 2853 02:11:07,800 --> 02:11:10,720 Speaker 37: double dip in the first couple of rounds in order 2854 02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:12,560 Speaker 37: to get quality guards and off line of such as 2855 02:11:12,600 --> 02:11:16,000 Speaker 37: that left guard and left pack will because unless that 2856 02:11:16,040 --> 02:11:19,600 Speaker 37: they have Dante Carnettia on feed dow Off somewhere in 2857 02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:22,520 Speaker 37: the room, I don't we don't trust them to draft 2858 02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:26,760 Speaker 37: the off the lineman later in these drafts. So when 2859 02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:28,960 Speaker 37: it comes down to it, that's what I'm really worried about. 2860 02:11:29,040 --> 02:11:31,000 Speaker 34: And the fact is they won't have me. 2861 02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:32,760 Speaker 37: There won't be in a draftedy receivers I like talking 2862 02:11:32,800 --> 02:11:34,640 Speaker 37: about if they do that. So that's what I'm worried about. 2863 02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:37,520 Speaker 6: That's all this stuff, Okay, thanks to Sean. 2864 02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:40,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's just it goes back to 2865 02:11:40,320 --> 02:11:42,440 Speaker 8: the same point of at some point you have to 2866 02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:45,000 Speaker 8: find a way to develop those fourth, fifth, sixth round 2867 02:11:45,160 --> 02:11:47,240 Speaker 8: guys that you know that's not always going to happen. 2868 02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:49,680 Speaker 8: And I mean it's a lot of times those are flyers. 2869 02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:52,560 Speaker 8: But that's how good teams happen. You know, guys who 2870 02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:55,240 Speaker 8: were random six round picks all of a sudden developed 2871 02:11:55,240 --> 02:11:56,800 Speaker 8: me Michael and wyn Us an example from a couple 2872 02:11:56,800 --> 02:11:57,280 Speaker 8: of years ago. 2873 02:11:57,680 --> 02:11:59,760 Speaker 4: You know, I was going to say offensive lineman. Yeah, 2874 02:12:00,080 --> 02:12:02,920 Speaker 4: a lot of times you fill out your offensive line. 2875 02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:04,920 Speaker 4: Now you might have a first round left tackle or so, 2876 02:12:05,320 --> 02:12:08,120 Speaker 4: but Mike's right like that, a lot of times, the 2877 02:12:08,200 --> 02:12:10,960 Speaker 4: good offensive lines include, you know, a first round pick, 2878 02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:12,600 Speaker 4: a second round pick, but a couple of like late 2879 02:12:12,680 --> 02:12:15,080 Speaker 4: round picks too. And when you was a perfect example 2880 02:12:15,120 --> 02:12:17,520 Speaker 4: of he's been a really good player for them for 2881 02:12:17,640 --> 02:12:20,960 Speaker 4: what five years now? Yeah, you know, not great, not 2882 02:12:21,080 --> 02:12:24,880 Speaker 4: a Pro Bowl All Pro type player, but a very 2883 02:12:25,040 --> 02:12:27,560 Speaker 4: solid starter on your offensive line for five. 2884 02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:31,560 Speaker 9: Years and if you had five Michael winus thing. 2885 02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:34,960 Speaker 6: Spian Fresno says, I like the intensity of some of 2886 02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:37,200 Speaker 6: the new guys. Some have the edge, like key On 2887 02:12:37,280 --> 02:12:39,800 Speaker 6: White seems to have, so maybe that'll help bring out 2888 02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:40,600 Speaker 6: the best in him. 2889 02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:43,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, Mel Williams, I just. 2890 02:12:44,520 --> 02:12:46,520 Speaker 8: Like there's just so much uncertainty with Barmour right now, 2891 02:12:46,640 --> 02:12:48,440 Speaker 8: and you know, like I just I never felt like 2892 02:12:48,480 --> 02:12:50,440 Speaker 8: the last few years you could really hang your hat 2893 02:12:50,520 --> 02:12:53,320 Speaker 8: on one of these defensive linemen that they've had up front. 2894 02:12:53,400 --> 02:12:54,920 Speaker 8: It's been a little touch and go with a lot 2895 02:12:55,000 --> 02:12:57,560 Speaker 8: of them. And I just hope that he's the start 2896 02:12:57,600 --> 02:13:00,360 Speaker 8: of rebuilding a you know, a defensive front. Not that 2897 02:13:00,400 --> 02:13:02,440 Speaker 8: they got to get back to Seymour, will Fork Warren 2898 02:13:02,520 --> 02:13:04,760 Speaker 8: that you know, all three guys are you know, first 2899 02:13:04,840 --> 02:13:07,440 Speaker 8: round picks, but it still just gives you something like 2900 02:13:07,520 --> 02:13:08,800 Speaker 8: this guy is gonna set the tone. 2901 02:13:08,840 --> 02:13:10,720 Speaker 9: He looks like man like. You know, I forget what 2902 02:13:10,800 --> 02:13:12,120 Speaker 9: the question was exactly it was. 2903 02:13:12,280 --> 02:13:14,280 Speaker 8: I think Phil Perry asked him, you know, how do 2904 02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:16,120 Speaker 8: you how are you gonna deal with playing more snaps 2905 02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:17,400 Speaker 8: now and hard work? 2906 02:13:17,640 --> 02:13:17,800 Speaker 5: You know. 2907 02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:20,840 Speaker 8: It's just he just seems like a serious, locked in dude, 2908 02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:23,040 Speaker 8: and I think it shows on the field that that 2909 02:13:23,120 --> 02:13:23,960 Speaker 8: he's an intense guy. 2910 02:13:24,120 --> 02:13:28,480 Speaker 4: My guess is he's probably heard a ton of part 2911 02:13:28,560 --> 02:13:33,600 Speaker 4: time player product of those around him comments, Yeah, and 2912 02:13:33,720 --> 02:13:36,200 Speaker 4: he's gonna take them to heart, and that's going to 2913 02:13:36,240 --> 02:13:38,280 Speaker 4: be his goal, Like that's sort of his focus. 2914 02:13:38,440 --> 02:13:39,680 Speaker 9: He's going to make that a little bit. 2915 02:13:39,920 --> 02:13:41,840 Speaker 4: We're gonna make a mad you know what I mean? 2916 02:13:41,920 --> 02:13:44,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, just a Evan texted me he's over in 2917 02:13:44,600 --> 02:13:46,520 Speaker 8: KSP right now as they're talking with some of the guys, 2918 02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:48,160 Speaker 8: but he said, hang on as long as we can, 2919 02:13:48,240 --> 02:13:48,560 Speaker 8: cause stay. 2920 02:13:48,640 --> 02:13:50,480 Speaker 6: He doesn't want to bring a guy by, so okay, Yeah, 2921 02:13:52,520 --> 02:13:53,040 Speaker 6: he didn't. 2922 02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:54,560 Speaker 5: Say who, So I don't know. We'll just see. 2923 02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:55,320 Speaker 9: It's gonna be one of the. 2924 02:13:55,320 --> 02:13:58,440 Speaker 6: Four jacket and Abba common theme jumps off the screen 2925 02:13:58,520 --> 02:14:02,240 Speaker 6: from the free agent's character. They're bursting with character, especially Moses. 2926 02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:07,680 Speaker 6: Moses Uzza's leadership, responsibility, dedication, and commitment very impressive. 2927 02:14:07,840 --> 02:14:09,840 Speaker 9: Keep that quote handy in case he walks through that door. 2928 02:14:11,320 --> 02:14:13,800 Speaker 6: A lot of people agree Jeremiah is one of them. 2929 02:14:14,120 --> 02:14:16,680 Speaker 6: I agree with Paul and Morgan. Moses very well spoken 2930 02:14:16,720 --> 02:14:19,240 Speaker 6: and a great understanding of what the team needs from 2931 02:14:19,360 --> 02:14:22,000 Speaker 6: him as a player and a mentor. I would also 2932 02:14:22,080 --> 02:14:26,800 Speaker 6: add Spelane was another high character guy at the podium. Okay, 2933 02:14:28,120 --> 02:14:28,640 Speaker 6: yeah he was. 2934 02:14:29,240 --> 02:14:31,400 Speaker 9: You know, it just comes off like exactly like he 2935 02:14:31,440 --> 02:14:32,000 Speaker 9: does on film. 2936 02:14:32,120 --> 02:14:34,200 Speaker 8: You know, You're just I'm like, does this guy want 2937 02:14:34,240 --> 02:14:35,600 Speaker 8: to go down to the field right now and start 2938 02:14:35,680 --> 02:14:36,440 Speaker 8: hitting sledgers on? 2939 02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:36,600 Speaker 5: Then? 2940 02:14:36,640 --> 02:14:37,520 Speaker 4: He seems ready to go. 2941 02:14:38,680 --> 02:14:41,000 Speaker 6: David writes in It's been a while since I've sent 2942 02:14:41,120 --> 02:14:43,800 Speaker 6: anything in. Well, good to see you back, David. I 2943 02:14:43,880 --> 02:14:46,160 Speaker 6: think it would be a good idea to remind people 2944 02:14:46,280 --> 02:14:49,360 Speaker 6: what a rebuild looks like that is working, and a 2945 02:14:49,480 --> 02:14:53,040 Speaker 6: rebuild looks like that isn't working. Using examples from another sport, 2946 02:14:53,400 --> 02:14:57,280 Speaker 6: which highlights positives from Boston and negatives from Buffalo, which 2947 02:14:57,600 --> 02:14:59,720 Speaker 6: we all Fred especially hate, I don't know what that 2948 02:14:59,800 --> 02:15:04,400 Speaker 6: means for another sport which highlights positives from Boston and 2949 02:15:04,520 --> 02:15:08,120 Speaker 6: negatives from Buffalo, What does that mean? Do you know 2950 02:15:08,160 --> 02:15:08,640 Speaker 6: what that means? 2951 02:15:08,720 --> 02:15:09,160 Speaker 5: No idea? 2952 02:15:10,040 --> 02:15:11,280 Speaker 6: Do you know what the other sport is? 2953 02:15:12,160 --> 02:15:14,120 Speaker 4: Hockey? Maybe you're talking about the Sabers who have sort 2954 02:15:14,120 --> 02:15:15,880 Speaker 4: of been mired at the bottom of the league for 2955 02:15:16,200 --> 02:15:23,640 Speaker 4: a decade. I don't know. But again, we can talk 2956 02:15:23,680 --> 02:15:27,320 Speaker 4: about all of this stuff. The key to getting out 2957 02:15:27,360 --> 02:15:29,760 Speaker 4: of this is going to be what Mike preaches all 2958 02:15:29,800 --> 02:15:34,640 Speaker 4: the time. Draft. Well, right, you need some players to 2959 02:15:34,760 --> 02:15:39,200 Speaker 4: come in. You're not going to get elite free agents 2960 02:15:39,240 --> 02:15:42,560 Speaker 4: every year, but you have the opportunity to get elite 2961 02:15:42,640 --> 02:15:45,400 Speaker 4: draft picks every year. Now, it requires a lot of 2962 02:15:45,480 --> 02:15:49,000 Speaker 4: luck because no one's perfect at the draft. It's really hard, 2963 02:15:49,600 --> 02:15:52,760 Speaker 4: but that's how you get really good as you draft 2964 02:15:52,960 --> 02:15:56,000 Speaker 4: young players who are great, and then you're able to 2965 02:15:56,160 --> 02:15:59,640 Speaker 4: stack those on top of each other and then augment them. 2966 02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:02,960 Speaker 4: You don't have to do seven signings on Monday, the 2967 02:16:03,040 --> 02:16:06,600 Speaker 4: first day of free agency. Instead you augment them with 2968 02:16:06,680 --> 02:16:09,640 Speaker 4: two to just plug in a couple of holes to 2969 02:16:10,240 --> 02:16:11,840 Speaker 4: to make you a little bit better, a little bit 2970 02:16:11,880 --> 02:16:14,800 Speaker 4: deeper in certain areas, put you over the top. That's 2971 02:16:14,840 --> 02:16:18,520 Speaker 4: what you're striving for. Ye Mike has said this ad nauseum. 2972 02:16:18,680 --> 02:16:18,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2973 02:16:18,960 --> 02:16:21,240 Speaker 8: I mean, especially just with i'd say on the defensive 2974 02:16:21,240 --> 02:16:23,520 Speaker 8: side of the ball, just being a good defensive front 2975 02:16:23,560 --> 02:16:26,320 Speaker 8: seven class with a lot of defensive linemen. It's you know, 2976 02:16:26,360 --> 02:16:28,560 Speaker 8: it's so much more appealing now thinking about plugging one 2977 02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:31,280 Speaker 8: of those talented guys in with Milton Williams, you know, 2978 02:16:31,720 --> 02:16:34,320 Speaker 8: with Carlton Davis on the back end, you know, with 2979 02:16:34,440 --> 02:16:37,240 Speaker 8: Spalaine playing a little linebacker, you know, maybe next to Bentley. 2980 02:16:37,360 --> 02:16:39,920 Speaker 9: So yeah, I think they've set the table pretty well. 2981 02:16:40,000 --> 02:16:41,600 Speaker 9: But that's what the ceiling is gonna be. 2982 02:16:41,680 --> 02:16:41,800 Speaker 16: You know. 2983 02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:43,840 Speaker 4: And I'm a dork and I go back to the 2984 02:16:44,160 --> 02:16:47,680 Speaker 4: you know when we first started Freddie, you know, so 2985 02:16:47,840 --> 02:16:50,120 Speaker 4: like when you when they were first good. It's like, 2986 02:16:50,200 --> 02:16:53,640 Speaker 4: we have this really good, young, all Pro caliber corner 2987 02:16:53,720 --> 02:16:56,520 Speaker 4: in ty Law. So we're gonna go out, you know, 2988 02:16:56,600 --> 02:16:59,880 Speaker 4: We're gonna sign a guy like Otis Smith to be 2989 02:17:00,080 --> 02:17:02,480 Speaker 4: a stopgap, and later Tyrone Pool. But we're going to 2990 02:17:02,600 --> 02:17:05,039 Speaker 4: draft Eugene Wilson and we're going to draft the Sante 2991 02:17:05,120 --> 02:17:09,640 Speaker 4: Samuel with the idea of when they're ready. Ty Law 2992 02:17:09,720 --> 02:17:12,640 Speaker 4: is probably going to be ready to go, and that's 2993 02:17:12,720 --> 02:17:16,040 Speaker 4: exactly what happened. Ty Law was all Pro caliber, then 2994 02:17:16,120 --> 02:17:19,600 Speaker 4: he wasn't. Then the Sante Samuel is sort of probe. 2995 02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:21,400 Speaker 4: I won't call him all Pro caliber, but I'll call 2996 02:17:21,480 --> 02:17:24,640 Speaker 4: him Pro Bowl caliber. And he's able to sort of 2997 02:17:24,720 --> 02:17:26,880 Speaker 4: carry the baton for you so you can continue to 2998 02:17:26,959 --> 02:17:29,480 Speaker 4: win and be good. And they played at a very 2999 02:17:29,560 --> 02:17:32,400 Speaker 4: high level for a long time. That's what you're looking 3000 02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:34,320 Speaker 4: for now. I could give you that example with like 3001 02:17:36,160 --> 02:17:39,120 Speaker 4: you know, Ted Washington and Keith Trailer in the middle, 3002 02:17:39,160 --> 02:17:42,280 Speaker 4: and then you draft Vince Wilfork and I could give 3003 02:17:42,280 --> 02:17:44,800 Speaker 4: you a lot of those different Bobby Hamilton makes you know, 3004 02:17:45,240 --> 02:17:48,720 Speaker 4: gives way to Ty Warren. That's how you do it. 3005 02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:51,800 Speaker 4: And if you don't do the second part of it, 3006 02:17:52,080 --> 02:17:55,360 Speaker 4: well you're going to be where Mike has lamented for 3007 02:17:55,480 --> 02:17:57,240 Speaker 4: now the five years that we've. 3008 02:17:57,640 --> 02:18:00,200 Speaker 8: We're just unraveled and you laid off all all of 3009 02:18:00,240 --> 02:18:02,600 Speaker 8: the you know, the examples of the past Patriots team 3010 02:18:02,640 --> 02:18:04,480 Speaker 8: where it was like that, it was you know, Matt 3011 02:18:04,520 --> 02:18:06,440 Speaker 8: light leaves, you got Nate Soldier waiting in the wings, 3012 02:18:06,480 --> 02:18:08,320 Speaker 8: you know, and at a certain point when you start 3013 02:18:08,400 --> 02:18:10,640 Speaker 8: missing on this draft and then you got another bad draft, 3014 02:18:10,680 --> 02:18:12,840 Speaker 8: and you you know you're starting to lose the guys 3015 02:18:12,920 --> 02:18:15,480 Speaker 8: to cycle in. Now Joe Tooney he goes in free agency, 3016 02:18:15,520 --> 02:18:16,280 Speaker 8: and now you don't have. 3017 02:18:16,600 --> 02:18:18,560 Speaker 4: Like Nate Soldier leaves and you want to replace him 3018 02:18:18,560 --> 02:18:21,360 Speaker 4: with Isaiah Winn. Doesn't work because you didn't get the 3019 02:18:21,440 --> 02:18:23,720 Speaker 4: right guy. Now again, it's hard to get the right guy. 3020 02:18:23,800 --> 02:18:26,040 Speaker 4: Every time. Fred will tell you. I'm on record, I 3021 02:18:26,080 --> 02:18:28,480 Speaker 4: thought Bill Belichick was not just a good drafter, a 3022 02:18:28,640 --> 02:18:31,200 Speaker 4: very a very good drafter, to which Andy still makes 3023 02:18:31,240 --> 02:18:33,320 Speaker 4: fun of me about. But I'll stand by it. I 3024 02:18:33,400 --> 02:18:35,680 Speaker 4: think for the vast majority of his twenty years he 3025 02:18:35,760 --> 02:18:38,320 Speaker 4: did a very good job. At the end, he was 3026 02:18:38,400 --> 02:18:41,160 Speaker 4: in a slump. Maybe he was on a heater early, 3027 02:18:41,400 --> 02:18:44,600 Speaker 4: but you know he didn't He wasn't able to maintain it. 3028 02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:46,959 Speaker 4: But that's how you have to do it. That's how 3029 02:18:47,080 --> 02:18:50,160 Speaker 4: you maintain a high level of winning for a long 3030 02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:53,720 Speaker 4: time and have Tom Brady Matt Yes, none of it 3031 02:18:53,840 --> 02:18:56,000 Speaker 4: works without yes, without talent. 3032 02:18:56,120 --> 02:19:00,680 Speaker 6: Matti the talent too. Matt's in Mississippi. Hey, Matt Hey, 3033 02:19:00,760 --> 02:19:01,440 Speaker 6: how you guys. 3034 02:19:01,320 --> 02:19:05,560 Speaker 34: Doing Matt Hey? I kind of got two questions, Uh, 3035 02:19:06,000 --> 02:19:09,000 Speaker 34: one with the offensive line, what do you think cold 3036 02:19:09,080 --> 02:19:12,680 Speaker 34: strange fits? And everything, and with the wide receivers, do 3037 02:19:12,760 --> 02:19:15,800 Speaker 34: you think we should go get somebody like Stepie Diggs 3038 02:19:15,879 --> 02:19:17,360 Speaker 34: or somebody to help on the house side for at 3039 02:19:17,400 --> 02:19:19,600 Speaker 34: least a year. I know he had to add a 3040 02:19:19,640 --> 02:19:21,880 Speaker 34: two problems and everything, but do you think he's kind 3041 02:19:21,920 --> 02:19:25,320 Speaker 34: of like a last resort type got Yeah? 3042 02:19:25,520 --> 02:19:29,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, so first cold Strange, where does he fit in? Uh? 3043 02:19:29,280 --> 02:19:31,680 Speaker 6: And thanks for the call, Matt. I think now with 3044 02:19:31,800 --> 02:19:34,720 Speaker 6: Andrew's going, I think they're gonna hope that he's your center, right. 3045 02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:36,800 Speaker 8: I think so there's just a lot of influx. There's 3046 02:19:36,800 --> 02:19:39,000 Speaker 8: a new offensive line coach, there's a new offensive coordinator. 3047 02:19:39,040 --> 02:19:40,760 Speaker 8: We don't know exactly what the scheme is gonna look like. 3048 02:19:40,840 --> 02:19:43,440 Speaker 8: You have some different options at the center position. I 3049 02:19:43,600 --> 02:19:45,560 Speaker 8: really have no idea how they view no Strange. 3050 02:19:45,560 --> 02:19:47,400 Speaker 4: I don't know either. He's going to have an opportunity 3051 02:19:47,600 --> 02:19:49,560 Speaker 4: to earn a job. I don't know if that'll be 3052 02:19:49,600 --> 02:19:52,200 Speaker 4: at guard or center, but I think he'll have an opportunity. Yeah, 3053 02:19:52,560 --> 02:19:55,000 Speaker 4: in terms of wide receivers, I would absolutely you know, 3054 02:19:55,280 --> 02:19:56,400 Speaker 4: if if there's. 3055 02:19:56,320 --> 02:20:00,800 Speaker 6: Stuck with Stefan Digg's status right, well, he's off right, 3056 02:20:01,360 --> 02:20:02,119 Speaker 6: but he's out there. 3057 02:20:02,320 --> 02:20:02,879 Speaker 9: He's out there. 3058 02:20:02,959 --> 02:20:05,760 Speaker 4: He's a free agent. Yes, yeah, yeah, I would take him, 3059 02:20:06,800 --> 02:20:10,440 Speaker 4: but again, he's just stop DAP guys Cooper Cup, Stefan Diggs, 3060 02:20:10,520 --> 02:20:13,720 Speaker 4: Brandon Cooks. There's guys that are available that are veterans, 3061 02:20:13,840 --> 02:20:15,240 Speaker 4: but none of them that are going to move the 3062 02:20:15,320 --> 02:20:17,040 Speaker 4: needle for you long term. 3063 02:20:17,400 --> 02:20:20,680 Speaker 6: If Diggs is healthy, I think he moves the needle. 3064 02:20:20,920 --> 02:20:21,360 Speaker 4: He doesn't. 3065 02:20:22,640 --> 02:20:24,080 Speaker 9: Don't look at me, fred I don't like him. 3066 02:20:24,080 --> 02:20:25,440 Speaker 4: He didn't move the needle in Houston. 3067 02:20:25,640 --> 02:20:29,160 Speaker 6: Anyone that's not twenty five. He just doesn't like well. 3068 02:20:29,120 --> 02:20:31,800 Speaker 4: Because they don't play like they were twenty five. That's like, 3069 02:20:31,879 --> 02:20:34,320 Speaker 4: it's not the age that gets me, it's he's slowly down. 3070 02:20:34,400 --> 02:20:36,039 Speaker 6: I think he's still pretty well. 3071 02:20:36,160 --> 02:20:36,879 Speaker 17: Like one of those. 3072 02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:39,359 Speaker 4: Collins was the guy that made it happen in Houston. 3073 02:20:39,440 --> 02:20:41,840 Speaker 4: He's the second banana. They don't have the guy, but 3074 02:20:42,240 --> 02:20:45,240 Speaker 4: that Digs can be second banana two. But I'll take 3075 02:20:45,320 --> 02:20:46,400 Speaker 4: them because it's better than. 3076 02:20:46,280 --> 02:20:46,640 Speaker 9: What you have. 3077 02:20:48,120 --> 02:20:52,200 Speaker 6: Ryan's in Alabama. What's up, Ryan, how's it going good? 3078 02:20:52,720 --> 02:20:53,640 Speaker 5: Right? Yeah? 3079 02:20:54,080 --> 02:20:56,000 Speaker 36: Just to circle back on the draft, I really think 3080 02:20:56,120 --> 02:20:58,520 Speaker 36: since we got Carlton Davis, now you've got the corner 3081 02:20:58,560 --> 02:20:59,200 Speaker 36: back to Ryan. 3082 02:20:59,240 --> 02:21:01,160 Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to put you on hold because we've 3083 02:21:01,160 --> 02:21:03,400 Speaker 6: got a guest coming in, but I'm gonna put you 3084 02:21:03,480 --> 02:21:05,760 Speaker 6: on hold and i'll get you when we come back. 3085 02:21:09,640 --> 02:21:16,119 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, So we're gonna have Milton Williams shortly. 3086 02:21:15,879 --> 02:21:17,959 Speaker 6: So that okay. 3087 02:21:18,640 --> 02:21:21,959 Speaker 4: So Milton Williams about about twenty in about twenty minutes. 3088 02:21:22,120 --> 02:21:23,320 Speaker 6: You can talk to him in here. 3089 02:21:24,400 --> 02:21:25,920 Speaker 9: He's like he's trying to get private. 3090 02:21:25,959 --> 02:21:27,880 Speaker 4: He's trying to get all his football questions because he 3091 02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:29,680 Speaker 4: knows we're gonna roll our eyes definitely saying. 3092 02:21:29,480 --> 02:21:30,440 Speaker 5: Three technique right now. 3093 02:21:31,000 --> 02:21:34,480 Speaker 6: It's unbelievable. He's hijacked. He's hijacked our guest. We've got 3094 02:21:34,520 --> 02:21:36,280 Speaker 6: the guests. Tell him to bring him in. 3095 02:21:37,600 --> 02:21:39,640 Speaker 4: Oh my god, they can hear you Fain. 3096 02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:42,880 Speaker 6: There's an extra seat for Evany. He doesn't have to 3097 02:21:42,959 --> 02:21:44,039 Speaker 6: do the interview out there. 3098 02:21:44,640 --> 02:21:45,440 Speaker 5: This is unbelievable. 3099 02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:47,000 Speaker 9: Thought you were gonna make him stand in the corner again. 3100 02:21:47,080 --> 02:21:48,480 Speaker 6: Well, Ryan, we could have finished. 3101 02:21:48,360 --> 02:21:50,520 Speaker 4: We could have finished the call. Yeah, So we're gonna 3102 02:21:50,560 --> 02:21:52,800 Speaker 4: have Milton Williams and then we're hoping to get Morgan 3103 02:21:52,879 --> 02:21:57,000 Speaker 4: Moses shortly after that. So stick with us. We'll hear 3104 02:21:57,160 --> 02:22:01,119 Speaker 4: from a couple of the the new free agent signings, 3105 02:22:01,160 --> 02:22:04,240 Speaker 4: the new the new foundation, I think to what the 3106 02:22:04,360 --> 02:22:05,600 Speaker 4: new looks are going to be. 3107 02:22:05,879 --> 02:22:15,040 Speaker 17: Yeah, so right right here, nice to meet you, Paul, congratulations, 3108 02:22:17,000 --> 02:22:17,280 Speaker 17: come on. 3109 02:22:17,400 --> 02:22:21,280 Speaker 6: In all right, Evan, you could have talked to him here. 3110 02:22:21,360 --> 02:22:23,879 Speaker 6: You didn't have to like conduct an interview out there. 3111 02:22:24,360 --> 02:22:26,720 Speaker 3: Well, we walked, We walked and talked. 3112 02:22:29,959 --> 02:22:31,560 Speaker 4: How long did it take you before you wanted to 3113 02:22:31,560 --> 02:22:34,840 Speaker 4: beat him up? When technique inside shake? 3114 02:22:36,360 --> 02:22:37,480 Speaker 6: Evan is our savant. 3115 02:22:38,280 --> 02:22:42,000 Speaker 4: They did, there's a baller. Oh yeah, just ask him 3116 02:22:43,440 --> 02:22:44,760 Speaker 4: a little. 3117 02:22:44,840 --> 02:22:46,879 Speaker 3: We talked a little three techniques. We talked a little 3118 02:22:46,920 --> 02:22:50,080 Speaker 3: bit about you know, the defense and Jeffrey Simmons and 3119 02:22:50,680 --> 02:22:52,560 Speaker 3: you know, playing similar roles and things like that. 3120 02:22:52,720 --> 02:22:54,120 Speaker 6: So you got to do it all right, this is 3121 02:22:54,240 --> 02:22:57,760 Speaker 6: this is deuce. Otherwise, Mike do so, Frank kersh, Paul, 3122 02:22:58,520 --> 02:22:59,320 Speaker 6: and you've met Evan. 3123 02:22:59,560 --> 02:23:01,960 Speaker 5: So I appreciate you guys having me. 3124 02:23:02,640 --> 02:23:03,320 Speaker 6: This is exciting. 3125 02:23:03,360 --> 02:23:04,920 Speaker 4: Hot swag already see that. 3126 02:23:06,720 --> 02:23:08,680 Speaker 5: They gave met shirt. 3127 02:23:09,520 --> 02:23:13,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, my guy, this is exciting. So what were your 3128 02:23:13,600 --> 02:23:17,080 Speaker 6: first impressions, you know, coming into the building and all 3129 02:23:17,160 --> 02:23:17,640 Speaker 6: that stuff. 3130 02:23:18,160 --> 02:23:20,959 Speaker 5: Man it it was great. Uh. Shoot, when you walk 3131 02:23:21,040 --> 02:23:26,880 Speaker 5: through the door, you just feel just the presence of winning, uh, 3132 02:23:27,600 --> 02:23:31,840 Speaker 5: coming from a winning organization in Philadelphia, Uh, it's the 3133 02:23:31,879 --> 02:23:35,920 Speaker 5: same way, but coming in here is just different. I 3134 02:23:35,959 --> 02:23:37,800 Speaker 5: would I would say I wasn't always a fan of 3135 02:23:37,879 --> 02:23:41,200 Speaker 5: the Patriots growing up because they were so good, and 3136 02:23:42,200 --> 02:23:46,560 Speaker 5: I mean they just played kind of complimentary football. Great defense, 3137 02:23:47,720 --> 02:23:52,360 Speaker 5: great players on defense, great players on offense, great quarterback play. Uh, 3138 02:23:52,959 --> 02:23:58,320 Speaker 5: just situationally aware. They just did a lot of things good, 3139 02:23:58,320 --> 02:23:59,760 Speaker 5: and I got tired of watching them win. I want 3140 02:23:59,760 --> 02:24:03,039 Speaker 5: to see somebody else win, but here. I'm here now, 3141 02:24:03,200 --> 02:24:05,760 Speaker 5: so I want to try to help add to that, 3142 02:24:05,920 --> 02:24:08,920 Speaker 5: to that, to that winning tradition. 3143 02:24:10,080 --> 02:24:12,000 Speaker 4: What are the guys on those teams, you know, as 3144 02:24:12,040 --> 02:24:14,400 Speaker 4: much as you sort of rooted against them, that you 3145 02:24:14,840 --> 02:24:17,560 Speaker 4: looked at, especially defensively, that you sort of admired. 3146 02:24:19,959 --> 02:24:22,520 Speaker 5: Obviously Coach Rabel, I was a little younger when he 3147 02:24:22,640 --> 02:24:26,280 Speaker 5: was playing, but I do remember he was playing defense 3148 02:24:26,400 --> 02:24:29,200 Speaker 5: and offense. I remember he was catching passes too, so 3149 02:24:30,040 --> 02:24:32,920 Speaker 5: he was he was definitely a guy obviously, Tom Brady 3150 02:24:33,840 --> 02:24:36,600 Speaker 5: just having all the answers to the test, you know, 3151 02:24:37,320 --> 02:24:40,160 Speaker 5: the film study he always talk about, and just making 3152 02:24:40,200 --> 02:24:42,959 Speaker 5: the right reads and getting the ball where it needs 3153 02:24:43,000 --> 02:24:43,640 Speaker 5: to be on time. 3154 02:24:46,120 --> 02:24:48,520 Speaker 6: I think Rabel he had ten catches, all of them 3155 02:24:48,560 --> 02:24:49,840 Speaker 6: were touchdowns. 3156 02:24:49,480 --> 02:24:51,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, he's probably going to tell you about it a lot. 3157 02:24:54,440 --> 02:24:56,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, that's good. That's that's cool, man. 3158 02:24:57,000 --> 02:24:58,760 Speaker 8: But no, I just want to ask you about the lot. Like, 3159 02:24:59,000 --> 02:25:00,880 Speaker 8: if you go back a year ago from right now, 3160 02:25:00,920 --> 02:25:02,600 Speaker 8: you knew you were going into free agency. You guys 3161 02:25:02,640 --> 02:25:05,080 Speaker 8: had a you know, a stack team over the last month, 3162 02:25:05,160 --> 02:25:06,920 Speaker 8: you won a Super Bowl, you signed a free agency 3163 02:25:06,959 --> 02:25:07,720 Speaker 8: contract to come in with. 3164 02:25:07,879 --> 02:25:09,720 Speaker 9: What's this year been like and how much hard work 3165 02:25:09,720 --> 02:25:10,120 Speaker 9: did you put in. 3166 02:25:10,160 --> 02:25:12,000 Speaker 8: Last summer in preparation for kind of where you are 3167 02:25:12,080 --> 02:25:12,360 Speaker 8: right now. 3168 02:25:12,520 --> 02:25:15,040 Speaker 5: I put in a lot of work, uh with this 3169 02:25:15,200 --> 02:25:22,720 Speaker 5: guy right here, yours trainer, Okay, put it put in 3170 02:25:22,800 --> 02:25:27,640 Speaker 5: a lot of work just getting ready, just trying to 3171 02:25:27,680 --> 02:25:31,120 Speaker 5: prepare my body, knowing that I was gonna get a 3172 02:25:31,160 --> 02:25:33,680 Speaker 5: bigger role for the first time in my career and 3173 02:25:33,840 --> 02:25:37,560 Speaker 5: wanted to be ready for any challenge that that came. 3174 02:25:37,760 --> 02:25:43,000 Speaker 5: So getting stronger, getting faster, uh more endurance, you know, 3175 02:25:43,600 --> 02:25:46,320 Speaker 5: doing a little boxing, you know, doing whatever I can 3176 02:25:46,440 --> 02:25:49,160 Speaker 5: to make sure that I'm in the best shape of 3177 02:25:49,200 --> 02:25:53,080 Speaker 5: my life and I can produce when it's trying to produce. 3178 02:25:53,360 --> 02:25:57,080 Speaker 6: Does the boxing help with just a hand quickness and hand. 3179 02:25:57,160 --> 02:26:04,360 Speaker 5: Hand quickness feat quickness und hand our coordination endurance helped 3180 02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:04,680 Speaker 5: a lot. 3181 02:26:05,280 --> 02:26:07,480 Speaker 6: You know, after the after the whistle, you know, you 3182 02:26:07,560 --> 02:26:08,400 Speaker 6: might get a couple. 3183 02:26:08,280 --> 02:26:11,080 Speaker 5: Inn you don't want to do it. Look, you don't 3184 02:26:11,080 --> 02:26:13,000 Speaker 5: want to you don't want to be dirty. It's a 3185 02:26:13,080 --> 02:26:15,240 Speaker 5: couple of guys that I don't do this to. 3186 02:26:16,200 --> 02:26:19,080 Speaker 4: About a couple of other guys that might. 3187 02:26:19,040 --> 02:26:24,000 Speaker 5: Do that, I ain't gonna call them out either. They So, 3188 02:26:24,160 --> 02:26:24,440 Speaker 5: you just. 3189 02:26:24,480 --> 02:26:27,480 Speaker 6: Won a super Bowl and you mentioned coming in here 3190 02:26:27,600 --> 02:26:30,560 Speaker 6: you sense the the vibe of the winning. But there's 3191 02:26:30,600 --> 02:26:34,400 Speaker 6: only two guys left now here after David Andrews is gone, 3192 02:26:34,920 --> 02:26:38,480 Speaker 6: who have won super Bowls with this team. So frankly, 3193 02:26:38,600 --> 02:26:42,480 Speaker 6: we need guys, more guys like you who have that experience. 3194 02:26:43,560 --> 02:26:46,160 Speaker 6: Is that something that you're ready to bring, like this 3195 02:26:46,320 --> 02:26:47,960 Speaker 6: is what it takes to win super Bowls? 3196 02:26:48,040 --> 02:26:52,760 Speaker 5: Guys, definitely. I know what it looked like last year. 3197 02:26:52,800 --> 02:26:57,640 Speaker 5: We had a really close team and we just played 3198 02:26:57,680 --> 02:26:58,120 Speaker 5: for each other. 3199 02:26:58,520 --> 02:26:58,640 Speaker 32: Uh. 3200 02:26:59,240 --> 02:27:04,440 Speaker 5: Great coaches, No, we we knew it was gonna be 3201 02:27:04,440 --> 02:27:07,800 Speaker 5: a journey. H Coach Sirianni. He always talked about the 3202 02:27:07,879 --> 02:27:11,000 Speaker 5: climb and you know, playing the game that's in front 3203 02:27:11,040 --> 02:27:14,160 Speaker 5: of us, not worried about anything like down the line 3204 02:27:14,600 --> 02:27:18,920 Speaker 5: or whatever. In the past, but we just played for 3205 02:27:19,000 --> 02:27:22,560 Speaker 5: each other. Uh, played for the city of course, and 3206 02:27:23,000 --> 02:27:25,920 Speaker 5: just going out there and being physical and you know, 3207 02:27:26,040 --> 02:27:29,760 Speaker 5: dominating your box. You know, whatever whatever your job is 3208 02:27:29,800 --> 02:27:32,400 Speaker 5: on any given play, make sure that you're executing at 3209 02:27:32,440 --> 02:27:35,640 Speaker 5: the best of your ability and you know, get everybody 3210 02:27:35,680 --> 02:27:39,039 Speaker 5: on that same page and you know, Uh we can 3211 02:27:39,200 --> 02:27:41,200 Speaker 5: went out there and dominated Super Bowl. 3212 02:27:42,240 --> 02:27:45,000 Speaker 3: So if you got a one on one, like yeah, 3213 02:27:45,400 --> 02:27:48,680 Speaker 3: fourth quarter games on the line. I seen you use 3214 02:27:48,680 --> 02:27:50,520 Speaker 3: a lot of different pass rush movies, So I gotta 3215 02:27:50,520 --> 02:27:52,120 Speaker 3: ask you what's your favorite one, Like, what's the one 3216 02:27:52,160 --> 02:27:52,720 Speaker 3: you're going through? 3217 02:27:53,360 --> 02:27:53,480 Speaker 16: Uh? 3218 02:27:54,680 --> 02:27:57,120 Speaker 5: If if a guy then like strap me up a 3219 02:27:57,160 --> 02:27:59,920 Speaker 5: couple of times like got me like he got me uh. 3220 02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:00,160 Speaker 16: Uh. 3221 02:28:00,320 --> 02:28:01,080 Speaker 5: Speed and power. 3222 02:28:01,720 --> 02:28:01,840 Speaker 27: Uh. 3223 02:28:03,200 --> 02:28:06,359 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm fast, fast, from my size, explosive 3224 02:28:06,480 --> 02:28:10,240 Speaker 5: enough to generate that power. And then also just with 3225 02:28:10,440 --> 02:28:12,920 Speaker 5: my strength up about these strengths, just being able to 3226 02:28:13,000 --> 02:28:15,960 Speaker 5: get get my hands inside and you know, try to 3227 02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:18,840 Speaker 5: put try to either collapse the pocket or push them 3228 02:28:18,920 --> 02:28:20,520 Speaker 5: back far enough where I can disengage. 3229 02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:21,440 Speaker 4: Uh. 3230 02:28:21,600 --> 02:28:23,520 Speaker 5: That was my go to. So most of the time 3231 02:28:23,879 --> 02:28:26,720 Speaker 5: guys struggle with sitting down my power, so they'll try 3232 02:28:26,720 --> 02:28:28,840 Speaker 5: to sit different and then I can get on edge 3233 02:28:28,879 --> 02:28:32,080 Speaker 5: quicker because they're trying to stop me in my tracks earlier. 3234 02:28:32,959 --> 02:28:34,760 Speaker 5: So once that if I catch your hand, it's over 3235 02:28:34,800 --> 02:28:37,960 Speaker 5: because I'm finna just run value. But yeah, my go 3236 02:28:38,040 --> 02:28:40,000 Speaker 5: to will probably be a power rush. 3237 02:28:40,120 --> 02:28:43,760 Speaker 3: Super Bowl stripsack on one of those, I believe, right, Yeah, yeah. 3238 02:28:43,600 --> 02:28:46,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, So are you familiar with this area at all? 3239 02:28:46,920 --> 02:28:49,320 Speaker 6: Have you ever visited New England or the Boston area 3240 02:28:49,600 --> 02:28:50,480 Speaker 6: or uh? 3241 02:28:50,560 --> 02:28:54,199 Speaker 5: We we practice against you guys, uh before the season 3242 02:28:54,320 --> 02:28:58,359 Speaker 5: last year? That was that was the only dominated Yeah. 3243 02:28:59,840 --> 02:29:02,400 Speaker 6: I supposed to say that, I don't know. That was 3244 02:29:02,600 --> 02:29:03,600 Speaker 6: probably the lowest. 3245 02:29:04,920 --> 02:29:07,560 Speaker 4: That was the day I knew there was not going 3246 02:29:07,640 --> 02:29:08,400 Speaker 4: to be a good season. 3247 02:29:08,560 --> 02:29:12,600 Speaker 6: I mean we could literally slap much. 3248 02:29:14,280 --> 02:29:16,600 Speaker 4: Literally that was a college team against the program. 3249 02:29:16,959 --> 02:29:20,240 Speaker 6: The Patriots could not execute their offense that day because 3250 02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:21,400 Speaker 6: the pressure. 3251 02:29:21,080 --> 02:29:23,800 Speaker 4: Because if you got because you and Jalen Jordan's like 3252 02:29:23,959 --> 02:29:25,240 Speaker 4: they not even got a snap. 3253 02:29:25,320 --> 02:29:27,520 Speaker 5: I remember, I remember I've been telling some of the 3254 02:29:27,560 --> 02:29:29,800 Speaker 5: guys like, I remember we came out here and we 3255 02:29:30,040 --> 02:29:34,360 Speaker 5: just I remember I was, I don't like to just gloating, 3256 02:29:35,160 --> 02:29:35,879 Speaker 5: I was going. 3257 02:29:36,040 --> 02:29:38,200 Speaker 6: I mean, that was that was We've had a lot 3258 02:29:38,240 --> 02:29:40,120 Speaker 6: of joint practices. That was the worst one to. 3259 02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:43,960 Speaker 5: See I'm telling you, we was getting after it for sure. 3260 02:29:44,160 --> 02:29:47,160 Speaker 5: So I was once. Uh my agent told me that 3261 02:29:47,560 --> 02:29:50,360 Speaker 5: they were interesting. I'm like, they probably got their take. 3262 02:29:52,520 --> 02:29:54,280 Speaker 6: Ye, all right, Well we're getting to wrap up. You 3263 02:29:54,320 --> 02:29:56,600 Speaker 6: got other things to do. We appreciate you stopping by 3264 02:29:56,720 --> 02:29:59,280 Speaker 6: for a few minutes. If you have any food things 3265 02:29:59,400 --> 02:30:01,920 Speaker 6: you need, recommendations on were the people to go to 3266 02:30:02,080 --> 02:30:02,640 Speaker 6: eat a lot. 3267 02:30:03,600 --> 02:30:06,400 Speaker 5: I appreciate it, appreciate having appreciate it. 3268 02:30:06,560 --> 02:30:12,119 Speaker 4: Congratulations Agains, All right, there you go, have a good one. 3269 02:30:12,120 --> 02:30:14,959 Speaker 6: All right, the prize of free agency in New England. 3270 02:30:15,400 --> 02:30:18,480 Speaker 4: I can't believe I didn't remember that absolute mass kicking. 3271 02:30:18,520 --> 02:30:21,200 Speaker 4: They gave us another joint practice. I can't believe. That 3272 02:30:21,400 --> 02:30:23,640 Speaker 4: just popped into my head when he started talking about it. 3273 02:30:26,240 --> 02:30:31,200 Speaker 4: Smile like no, like that was the Today was the 3274 02:30:31,320 --> 02:30:34,039 Speaker 4: day that I realized that the twenty four Patriots were 3275 02:30:34,120 --> 02:30:34,520 Speaker 4: not going. 3276 02:30:34,480 --> 02:30:36,199 Speaker 6: To be That was a low point. 3277 02:30:36,959 --> 02:30:39,760 Speaker 4: They could not get a snap off all the false starts, 3278 02:30:40,200 --> 02:30:40,959 Speaker 4: in all the sacks. 3279 02:30:41,200 --> 02:30:43,280 Speaker 8: I mean that he was one of the reasons we 3280 02:30:43,320 --> 02:30:45,240 Speaker 8: should have a pull of highlight from us doing the 3281 02:30:45,320 --> 02:30:46,040 Speaker 8: live broadcast. 3282 02:30:46,520 --> 02:30:51,000 Speaker 3: Well, I remember us talking on the show during the 3283 02:30:51,080 --> 02:30:53,560 Speaker 3: live broadcast, can we get one of these guys on 3284 02:30:53,680 --> 02:30:54,879 Speaker 3: our defensive line. 3285 02:30:54,680 --> 02:30:55,680 Speaker 4: And now here we go. 3286 02:30:55,959 --> 02:30:57,119 Speaker 3: So at least we got one. 3287 02:30:57,200 --> 02:31:03,240 Speaker 6: Finally, yep, I saw a large figure coming into the 3288 02:31:03,360 --> 02:31:07,120 Speaker 6: other studio. So whenever he's ready, we're going to have 3289 02:31:07,280 --> 02:31:11,640 Speaker 6: our next guest. But yeah, that was that was interesting. 3290 02:31:11,840 --> 02:31:14,040 Speaker 6: I wanted to get into like restaurants with him, like 3291 02:31:14,080 --> 02:31:15,480 Speaker 6: what does he like to eat, so we could make 3292 02:31:15,520 --> 02:31:20,320 Speaker 6: some recommendations, you know, our boneless wings, truly boneless wings, 3293 02:31:20,360 --> 02:31:21,560 Speaker 6: but we didn't get to go there. 3294 02:31:21,840 --> 02:31:24,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, his whole family is here, so you might have 3295 02:31:24,720 --> 02:31:27,520 Speaker 3: seen his father there and they're all already decked out 3296 02:31:27,560 --> 02:31:29,760 Speaker 3: in Patriots geared. They went to the pro shop and 3297 02:31:30,000 --> 02:31:32,280 Speaker 3: we gave him some swag bags and stuff like that, 3298 02:31:32,560 --> 02:31:34,560 Speaker 3: so they all got Patriots geared. 3299 02:31:34,800 --> 02:31:35,600 Speaker 5: What do you have? Real quick? 3300 02:31:35,640 --> 02:31:37,840 Speaker 8: Just to David Andrews put out a post on Instagram 3301 02:31:37,959 --> 02:31:40,320 Speaker 8: just said thank you Patriots. I will always cherish the 3302 02:31:40,440 --> 02:31:42,640 Speaker 8: memories and relationships on and off the field and what 3303 02:31:42,680 --> 02:31:45,080 Speaker 8: we accomplished the best ten years me and Mac Andrews 3304 02:31:45,200 --> 02:31:45,920 Speaker 8: could ever ask for. 3305 02:31:46,320 --> 02:31:47,680 Speaker 9: I'll always be a Patriot. 3306 02:31:47,800 --> 02:31:50,560 Speaker 8: So David Andrews chiming in, and I mean I think 3307 02:31:50,600 --> 02:31:52,279 Speaker 8: we put out a lot of great content. 3308 02:31:52,320 --> 02:31:54,840 Speaker 9: I mean there's so much a classy guy. 3309 02:31:55,040 --> 02:31:57,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, I expect nothing less. 3310 02:31:57,440 --> 02:31:57,640 Speaker 5: Great. 3311 02:32:00,440 --> 02:32:02,520 Speaker 6: Evan, we haven't had you know, while we wait for 3312 02:32:02,720 --> 02:32:07,400 Speaker 6: Morgan to come in. Your impressions of the lineup this morning. 3313 02:32:07,320 --> 02:32:09,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really cool. Like I had never been 3314 02:32:09,760 --> 02:32:13,040 Speaker 3: to one of those before. We haven't really done either ways. Yeah, 3315 02:32:13,160 --> 02:32:15,760 Speaker 3: so it was it was really uh there there was buzz. 3316 02:32:15,959 --> 02:32:20,040 Speaker 3: There was absolutely buzz and excitement, and it was I 3317 02:32:20,120 --> 02:32:23,720 Speaker 3: thought interesting to hear Rabel talk about He called it 3318 02:32:23,840 --> 02:32:27,119 Speaker 3: the group, the free Agency group of him and Elliott 3319 02:32:27,120 --> 02:32:31,120 Speaker 3: Wolf and Ryan Cowden Macro and your guy Richard Miller 3320 02:32:31,480 --> 02:32:35,080 Speaker 3: was also in that group as well. So Fred said 3321 02:32:35,080 --> 02:32:37,000 Speaker 3: that we had to do something on. 3322 02:32:37,200 --> 02:32:40,520 Speaker 6: Richard if he wants. Yeah, I'm negotiating with him. 3323 02:32:40,720 --> 02:32:43,120 Speaker 3: I agree. But yeah, that that was cool to hear 3324 02:32:43,160 --> 02:32:45,720 Speaker 3: about them on the phones. And you know, all the 3325 02:32:45,760 --> 02:32:46,920 Speaker 3: bullets flying and stuff. 3326 02:32:48,800 --> 02:32:52,040 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, have a scene come on in. 3327 02:32:52,520 --> 02:32:52,720 Speaker 16: Yeah. 3328 02:32:53,879 --> 02:32:55,800 Speaker 6: Well yeah, nice to. 3329 02:32:55,800 --> 02:33:00,080 Speaker 4: Be congratulations that now, is it? Gucci? Okay? So, and 3330 02:33:00,160 --> 02:33:01,960 Speaker 4: we were watching because Fred and I stayed here in 3331 02:33:02,000 --> 02:33:04,600 Speaker 4: the studio, Mike and Evan went to the press commons. 3332 02:33:04,600 --> 02:33:06,920 Speaker 4: We were trying to figure out, as Fred says, what 3333 02:33:07,000 --> 02:33:07,720 Speaker 4: were you were wearing? 3334 02:33:07,920 --> 02:33:10,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. 3335 02:33:10,640 --> 02:33:12,600 Speaker 6: I was like, it can't be coach now, he wouldn't 3336 02:33:12,600 --> 02:33:21,039 Speaker 6: do coach coach. Well, welcome, this is Deuce, Mike, I'm Fred, 3337 02:33:21,280 --> 02:33:25,400 Speaker 6: Paul and Evan. Welcome to New England. Welcome, Yeah, thank 3338 02:33:25,440 --> 02:33:25,840 Speaker 6: you for having me. 3339 02:33:26,000 --> 02:33:26,600 Speaker 5: This is great. 3340 02:33:26,959 --> 02:33:29,120 Speaker 6: We were excited just watching at the podium and you 3341 02:33:29,200 --> 02:33:33,760 Speaker 6: were talking about lining up with Gonzo, and you know, 3342 02:33:34,760 --> 02:33:37,400 Speaker 6: we're excited about that too, because you know, being able, 3343 02:33:37,560 --> 02:33:41,440 Speaker 6: like coach Rabel said, Cats, you know, just take Cat Caverridge, 3344 02:33:42,640 --> 02:33:45,039 Speaker 6: Let's let's go one on one. Let the other guys 3345 02:33:45,080 --> 02:33:48,279 Speaker 6: get at the quarterback and play that complimentary type of football. 3346 02:33:48,640 --> 02:33:50,240 Speaker 6: Is that something that excites you as well? 3347 02:33:50,400 --> 02:33:52,840 Speaker 30: Of course it excites me, especially like being able to 3348 02:33:52,879 --> 02:33:56,000 Speaker 30: go and play with Gonzo, a guy who I know 3349 02:33:56,440 --> 02:33:59,440 Speaker 30: can hold his own and has shown it. 3350 02:33:59,800 --> 02:34:00,760 Speaker 15: And previous years. 3351 02:34:00,959 --> 02:34:03,240 Speaker 30: And you know, when you can play that type of football, 3352 02:34:03,520 --> 02:34:06,840 Speaker 30: especially for defense, like like you said, it allows somebody 3353 02:34:06,920 --> 02:34:09,560 Speaker 30: to rest the pass a little bit more efficiently, and 3354 02:34:09,680 --> 02:34:13,320 Speaker 30: then you know it also puts pressure on a quarterback 3355 02:34:13,360 --> 02:34:15,880 Speaker 30: because you're playing tight coverage and now he's not just 3356 02:34:15,959 --> 02:34:17,680 Speaker 30: picking you off in his own and when you. 3357 02:34:17,720 --> 02:34:19,200 Speaker 15: Need to play man and man, you can play it. 3358 02:34:19,600 --> 02:34:21,600 Speaker 30: You could I've been on teams where we played man 3359 02:34:21,640 --> 02:34:23,800 Speaker 30: and man like eighty percent of the snaps, you know, 3360 02:34:24,080 --> 02:34:27,240 Speaker 30: And that's the more efficient way to get the offense 3361 02:34:27,320 --> 02:34:29,640 Speaker 30: off the field and get three and outs quickly. And 3362 02:34:29,680 --> 02:34:31,560 Speaker 30: now you're putting your offense back on the field and 3363 02:34:31,640 --> 02:34:33,840 Speaker 30: he's getting more chances and you're just giving them more 3364 02:34:33,920 --> 02:34:34,880 Speaker 30: chances of getting in zone. 3365 02:34:34,959 --> 02:34:36,760 Speaker 6: But you've got to be able to do man. To 3366 02:34:36,800 --> 02:34:38,560 Speaker 6: be able to do it, there's a downside if you're 3367 02:34:38,760 --> 02:34:41,039 Speaker 6: if you're losing those battles and yeah. 3368 02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:42,640 Speaker 4: Right, yeah it can be bad. 3369 02:34:42,760 --> 02:34:44,879 Speaker 30: Yeah, bad, But it takes a certain type of guy 3370 02:34:45,000 --> 02:34:47,040 Speaker 30: to want to do it and to continue to do 3371 02:34:47,160 --> 02:34:50,200 Speaker 30: it because you may not be perfect, but you have 3372 02:34:50,360 --> 02:34:52,960 Speaker 30: to have that dogmentality where I'm going to come back 3373 02:34:53,000 --> 02:34:54,480 Speaker 30: and I'm gonna win, I'm gonna fight, and then you 3374 02:34:54,600 --> 02:34:56,640 Speaker 30: have to have a good technique in it. And uh, 3375 02:34:56,959 --> 02:34:58,880 Speaker 30: you know, that's something I've been doing my whole career. 3376 02:34:59,720 --> 02:35:01,400 Speaker 30: We've we had a lot of success behind it, and 3377 02:35:02,120 --> 02:35:04,960 Speaker 30: at Detroit and at Tampa when we were able to 3378 02:35:05,040 --> 02:35:06,520 Speaker 30: do it, and a lot of the guys to just 3379 02:35:06,600 --> 02:35:08,600 Speaker 30: rust the pastors. So I can't wait till we to 3380 02:35:08,640 --> 02:35:10,800 Speaker 30: go out there and just lock up and really show 3381 02:35:11,080 --> 02:35:12,240 Speaker 30: everybody what we can't do. 3382 02:35:12,480 --> 02:35:13,320 Speaker 11: Yeah, how much. 3383 02:35:13,200 --> 02:35:14,879 Speaker 8: Pride do you take in the physicality of your game, 3384 02:35:14,879 --> 02:35:18,000 Speaker 8: because it seems like you're a good good complimented to Gonzo, 3385 02:35:18,080 --> 02:35:18,760 Speaker 8: but that's that's you. 3386 02:35:19,080 --> 02:35:21,160 Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, that is me. I do love to be physical. 3387 02:35:21,240 --> 02:35:23,760 Speaker 30: I do love to you know, and still fear and 3388 02:35:23,840 --> 02:35:25,240 Speaker 30: kind of be a bully out there. If I'm being 3389 02:35:25,320 --> 02:35:28,800 Speaker 30: quite honest, I like to have that intimidation factor knowing 3390 02:35:28,840 --> 02:35:31,240 Speaker 30: that they watched the film from last week and they've 3391 02:35:31,280 --> 02:35:34,199 Speaker 30: been watching the film and in their meetings their coaches 3392 02:35:34,200 --> 02:35:36,840 Speaker 30: were talking about this guy is a bully, and this 3393 02:35:36,920 --> 02:35:39,160 Speaker 30: guy's gonna press you, and this guy's gonna close space 3394 02:35:39,240 --> 02:35:41,080 Speaker 30: on you, and you gotta and you can tell, like 3395 02:35:41,240 --> 02:35:42,920 Speaker 30: you get out there, you can just look at a 3396 02:35:43,000 --> 02:35:45,480 Speaker 30: receiver and up his coach is watching film. 3397 02:35:45,560 --> 02:35:46,480 Speaker 15: His coach total. 3398 02:35:46,520 --> 02:35:47,720 Speaker 6: Because he's a little nervous. 3399 02:35:47,720 --> 02:35:50,440 Speaker 30: He's a little you know, just antsy about what's about 3400 02:35:50,440 --> 02:35:52,440 Speaker 30: to happen, and he knows you're gonna press him and 3401 02:35:52,480 --> 02:35:53,760 Speaker 30: you're not gonna give him too much space. 3402 02:35:53,840 --> 02:35:55,920 Speaker 9: It sounds like Jamar Chase did a study art. 3403 02:35:57,440 --> 02:35:58,360 Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. 3404 02:35:58,600 --> 02:36:00,320 Speaker 30: You know, I don't think he knew, but I like 3405 02:36:00,360 --> 02:36:02,200 Speaker 30: he found out and I think he's a great player. 3406 02:36:02,840 --> 02:36:02,960 Speaker 31: Uh. 3407 02:36:03,320 --> 02:36:06,000 Speaker 30: You know, I don't really like to anti getize situations, 3408 02:36:06,040 --> 02:36:08,840 Speaker 30: but I do love to, you know, give respect and 3409 02:36:08,959 --> 02:36:09,560 Speaker 30: get respect. 3410 02:36:10,040 --> 02:36:10,240 Speaker 12: Yeah. 3411 02:36:10,720 --> 02:36:10,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 3412 02:36:11,000 --> 02:36:14,520 Speaker 6: And does that competitiveness and physicality extend the practice too, 3413 02:36:14,560 --> 02:36:16,280 Speaker 6: Do you like to get it on with your teammates 3414 02:36:16,320 --> 02:36:18,200 Speaker 6: and challenge that offense? 3415 02:36:18,520 --> 02:36:21,480 Speaker 30: It starts in practice, yeah, Like, honestly, that doesn't happen 3416 02:36:21,520 --> 02:36:23,840 Speaker 30: in the game if it's not in practice. And you know, 3417 02:36:23,959 --> 02:36:26,920 Speaker 30: when I was younger, I would I didn't appreciate practice 3418 02:36:26,959 --> 02:36:29,360 Speaker 30: as much and I didn't like understand how important it 3419 02:36:29,520 --> 02:36:32,320 Speaker 30: was until you know, I had, you know, times where 3420 02:36:32,360 --> 02:36:34,600 Speaker 30: I would be as in practice and then try to 3421 02:36:34,720 --> 02:36:36,640 Speaker 30: cut it on in the game and it does not work. 3422 02:36:36,800 --> 02:36:37,480 Speaker 12: Like you can't do it. 3423 02:36:37,879 --> 02:36:40,960 Speaker 30: Like even if you're telling yourself mentally, I'm gonna do this, 3424 02:36:41,040 --> 02:36:43,600 Speaker 30: you're getting the game and you just kind of freeze 3425 02:36:43,680 --> 02:36:45,400 Speaker 30: up because the muscle. 3426 02:36:45,600 --> 02:36:48,560 Speaker 15: Is it's called muscle memory. Yeah, it's muscle memory, that's it. Yeah. 3427 02:36:49,560 --> 02:36:52,000 Speaker 3: Just you know your length, your your arm length and 3428 02:36:52,000 --> 02:36:53,640 Speaker 3: all that stuff. I remember you coming out of the 3429 02:36:53,760 --> 02:36:56,000 Speaker 3: draft and like it was that was all to talk 3430 02:36:56,040 --> 02:36:58,840 Speaker 3: about you is. I think you're in ninety fifth percentile 3431 02:36:59,000 --> 02:37:01,600 Speaker 3: with your wingspin for a corner. Just how does that 3432 02:37:01,680 --> 02:37:04,120 Speaker 3: help you, you know, in terms of pressing guys or 3433 02:37:04,240 --> 02:37:05,840 Speaker 3: even getting in passing links, you know what. 3434 02:37:06,000 --> 02:37:08,480 Speaker 30: I use it to my adventage And people say, well, 3435 02:37:08,520 --> 02:37:10,800 Speaker 30: you have long arms, but there's a lot of guys 3436 02:37:10,840 --> 02:37:12,680 Speaker 30: who will have long arms. But I think the key 3437 02:37:12,760 --> 02:37:16,800 Speaker 30: to that is being deceptive in your reach. So a 3438 02:37:16,879 --> 02:37:21,160 Speaker 30: lot of times with boxers or you know, MMA fighters, 3439 02:37:21,200 --> 02:37:22,960 Speaker 30: and I'm not sure if your guys are big fans 3440 02:37:23,000 --> 02:37:24,920 Speaker 30: of that, but you know, it's all about the reach 3441 02:37:25,000 --> 02:37:27,000 Speaker 30: and all about you know, how deceptive you can be 3442 02:37:27,440 --> 02:37:29,880 Speaker 30: in touching your opponent or being in that range to 3443 02:37:30,040 --> 02:37:32,840 Speaker 30: touch them. So for me, you know, I'm a little 3444 02:37:32,879 --> 02:37:36,800 Speaker 30: deceptive with my spatial awareness and knowing when I can 3445 02:37:36,920 --> 02:37:39,440 Speaker 30: and can't touch them. And then also like if I'm 3446 02:37:39,480 --> 02:37:41,400 Speaker 30: at the line and I'm close up on you, sometimes 3447 02:37:41,760 --> 02:37:44,000 Speaker 30: you'll kind of anticipate me touching you because you think, 3448 02:37:44,200 --> 02:37:46,160 Speaker 30: you know I have long arms, But I'll just give 3449 02:37:46,200 --> 02:37:48,400 Speaker 30: you some space so I can allow you to commit 3450 02:37:48,520 --> 02:37:51,039 Speaker 30: and then put my arms on you. Ors sometimes I'm 3451 02:37:51,080 --> 02:37:54,520 Speaker 30: at the point where you know, obviously film doesn't give 3452 02:37:54,640 --> 02:37:58,360 Speaker 30: you you know, exactly the dimensions of my arms or 3453 02:37:58,400 --> 02:38:01,160 Speaker 30: you don't know until you really see me. Sometimes, Uh, 3454 02:38:01,240 --> 02:38:02,720 Speaker 30: when you see me in a game and it's the 3455 02:38:02,760 --> 02:38:04,720 Speaker 30: first time you see me, you're not really too short, 3456 02:38:04,800 --> 02:38:07,120 Speaker 30: like you've seen it on film, but you haven't experienced it. 3457 02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:09,400 Speaker 30: So when I do get in front of you, it's 3458 02:38:09,480 --> 02:38:11,440 Speaker 30: kind of different where Okay, I got enough space, but 3459 02:38:11,520 --> 02:38:13,520 Speaker 30: you really don't like one step and I'm going to 3460 02:38:13,640 --> 02:38:15,400 Speaker 30: touch you. So I kind of use it as a 3461 02:38:15,480 --> 02:38:18,880 Speaker 30: deceptive tool in my game where I'm not, like, you know, 3462 02:38:19,000 --> 02:38:21,959 Speaker 30: trying to be overly aggressive, but I'm trying to kind of, uh, 3463 02:38:22,320 --> 02:38:23,160 Speaker 30: you know, size it up. 3464 02:38:23,320 --> 02:38:25,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul and I are in the over seventy Bare 3465 02:38:25,920 --> 02:38:30,480 Speaker 6: Knuckles League. Oh yeah, we're not over seventy. The only 3466 02:38:30,560 --> 02:38:31,560 Speaker 6: guys that we can fight. 3467 02:38:33,040 --> 02:38:37,360 Speaker 4: Over fifty. I want to ask you, Carleton about I 3468 02:38:37,400 --> 02:38:40,040 Speaker 4: think you were quoted before the free agent process started 3469 02:38:40,160 --> 02:38:43,240 Speaker 4: that you sort of regretted the way you approached it 3470 02:38:43,360 --> 02:38:46,360 Speaker 4: last year. What are some of the differences what you 3471 02:38:46,400 --> 02:38:48,320 Speaker 4: felt like you were able to do this time in 3472 02:38:48,480 --> 02:38:50,400 Speaker 4: terms of the whole process that you you didn't do 3473 02:38:50,520 --> 02:38:50,880 Speaker 4: last year. 3474 02:38:50,959 --> 02:38:53,760 Speaker 30: So the last time I hit free agency with Tampa, 3475 02:38:54,760 --> 02:38:58,000 Speaker 30: you know, I just felt as if I panicked and 3476 02:38:58,160 --> 02:39:00,520 Speaker 30: I don't say I wouldn't say panic, but you know, 3477 02:39:00,560 --> 02:39:03,720 Speaker 30: when free agency starts, it's going fast, and you know 3478 02:39:03,920 --> 02:39:06,480 Speaker 30: you gotta make a decisive decision. You need to you know, 3479 02:39:07,360 --> 02:39:10,080 Speaker 30: you know, make that decision fast because as the longer 3480 02:39:10,120 --> 02:39:12,360 Speaker 30: you wait, the more the money goes in. And I 3481 02:39:12,440 --> 02:39:16,480 Speaker 30: feel as if, you know, I didn't wanna leave where 3482 02:39:16,520 --> 02:39:20,199 Speaker 30: I was at, and you know, when we started talking, 3483 02:39:20,840 --> 02:39:25,280 Speaker 30: my agent wasn't really getting nowhere with the negotiations, and 3484 02:39:25,360 --> 02:39:26,760 Speaker 30: I was just saying, alright, j just you know, I 3485 02:39:26,840 --> 02:39:28,160 Speaker 30: just kind of panic and say just take it, just 3486 02:39:28,200 --> 02:39:30,640 Speaker 30: take it, just take it. And you know, after talking 3487 02:39:30,720 --> 02:39:33,720 Speaker 30: to other people after the fact, it kind of felt 3488 02:39:33,840 --> 02:39:35,320 Speaker 30: as if I left money on the table. And then 3489 02:39:35,360 --> 02:39:37,440 Speaker 30: I kind of felt that way too, even if it 3490 02:39:37,560 --> 02:39:40,000 Speaker 30: was like maybe a mill or so short. You know, 3491 02:39:40,160 --> 02:39:42,440 Speaker 30: in this league, you wanna be as efficient as possible 3492 02:39:42,480 --> 02:39:44,440 Speaker 30: because you never know when it could be your last game. 3493 02:39:44,879 --> 02:39:47,920 Speaker 30: So you know, I was kind of frustrated, uh, with 3494 02:39:48,080 --> 02:39:51,320 Speaker 30: that process back then, and I knew I was hoping 3495 02:39:51,360 --> 02:39:53,960 Speaker 30: that me and Detroit can get something done before I 3496 02:39:54,080 --> 02:39:57,320 Speaker 30: hit free agency, and that was you know, my mind 3497 02:39:57,400 --> 02:39:59,200 Speaker 30: frame going into it, that I wouldn't even hit it 3498 02:39:59,280 --> 02:40:02,200 Speaker 30: because we were all really be negotiations, and you know, 3499 02:40:02,280 --> 02:40:04,960 Speaker 30: it just wasn't going the way I planned it to go. 3500 02:40:05,120 --> 02:40:06,640 Speaker 30: So I was just kind of frustrated with it. Like, 3501 02:40:06,640 --> 02:40:08,480 Speaker 30: you know, if I hit free agency this time, I'm 3502 02:40:08,520 --> 02:40:10,760 Speaker 30: not gonna panic. I'm gonna you know, make the right 3503 02:40:10,800 --> 02:40:13,879 Speaker 30: decision and I'm gonna go where I'm wanted and I'm 3504 02:40:13,920 --> 02:40:17,040 Speaker 30: not gonna just you know, stay because I'm nervous or 3505 02:40:17,120 --> 02:40:19,879 Speaker 30: I'm panicking or i don't want to change situations. 3506 02:40:19,959 --> 02:40:22,280 Speaker 4: So that was really the message, and that was gonna 3507 02:40:22,280 --> 02:40:24,200 Speaker 4: be a follow up. It's just how difficult it was 3508 02:40:24,320 --> 02:40:28,440 Speaker 4: to leave Detroit, which I know it was obviously disappointing 3509 02:40:28,520 --> 02:40:30,840 Speaker 4: end for you guys, but still one of the best 3510 02:40:30,959 --> 02:40:33,160 Speaker 4: two or three teams in football. How tough was that 3511 02:40:33,320 --> 02:40:35,280 Speaker 4: to that would walk away from that was tough. 3512 02:40:35,959 --> 02:40:39,880 Speaker 30: It was really tough, honestly, because I just moved from 3513 02:40:40,080 --> 02:40:43,120 Speaker 30: a situation I just you know, got comfortable there and 3514 02:40:43,320 --> 02:40:46,320 Speaker 30: I'm not a guy who wants to team hop Like 3515 02:40:46,440 --> 02:40:49,480 Speaker 30: I'm trying to play hard, play hard for the organization 3516 02:40:50,120 --> 02:40:52,800 Speaker 30: and eventually, you know, buy into it and they buy 3517 02:40:52,840 --> 02:40:53,200 Speaker 30: into me. 3518 02:40:53,720 --> 02:40:54,959 Speaker 12: So you know, that was my plan. 3519 02:40:55,080 --> 02:40:57,480 Speaker 30: When I did get traded there, it was to you know, 3520 02:40:57,600 --> 02:41:00,280 Speaker 30: leave a good enough impression where they were want to me, 3521 02:41:01,040 --> 02:41:02,800 Speaker 30: uh you know, and I could be there for the 3522 02:41:02,840 --> 02:41:03,560 Speaker 30: rest of my career. 3523 02:41:03,720 --> 02:41:06,160 Speaker 15: So and so, you know, leaving was tough. 3524 02:41:06,320 --> 02:41:09,120 Speaker 30: I had so I just had good bonds with the 3525 02:41:09,160 --> 02:41:11,040 Speaker 30: guys and I still have good bonds with them, and 3526 02:41:11,080 --> 02:41:13,960 Speaker 30: I still respect them and I still, uh you know, 3527 02:41:14,240 --> 02:41:15,600 Speaker 30: love them as teammates. 3528 02:41:15,640 --> 02:41:15,800 Speaker 37: Man. 3529 02:41:15,920 --> 02:41:17,959 Speaker 30: And you know a lot of those guys reached out 3530 02:41:18,000 --> 02:41:20,160 Speaker 30: to me during this process and they wanted me to 3531 02:41:20,160 --> 02:41:21,959 Speaker 30: get a deal done, and even after the fact when 3532 02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:24,840 Speaker 30: I chose to come here, they still reached out to me. 3533 02:41:24,959 --> 02:41:27,640 Speaker 30: And you know, you know, was just happy for the 3534 02:41:27,720 --> 02:41:30,000 Speaker 30: time I did spend there and congratulated me. 3535 02:41:30,160 --> 02:41:31,320 Speaker 15: So it was tough. 3536 02:41:31,440 --> 02:41:32,360 Speaker 6: I love the city I did. 3537 02:41:32,440 --> 02:41:33,800 Speaker 30: I did grow to love it and just you know, 3538 02:41:33,879 --> 02:41:35,920 Speaker 30: winning when you're winning like that and you have so 3539 02:41:36,040 --> 02:41:38,760 Speaker 30: much success, especially and that you love you guys. Man, 3540 02:41:39,240 --> 02:41:41,120 Speaker 30: it was a time for Detroit and it was a 3541 02:41:41,160 --> 02:41:43,280 Speaker 30: great time and it still is. So it was hard 3542 02:41:43,320 --> 02:41:45,440 Speaker 30: for me to leave, but you know, ultimately I had 3543 02:41:45,480 --> 02:41:47,680 Speaker 30: to do what was best for my career and go 3544 02:41:47,760 --> 02:41:49,279 Speaker 30: where I was want of their priorities. 3545 02:41:49,560 --> 02:41:51,400 Speaker 6: You win here, We'll love you too, oh man. 3546 02:41:51,520 --> 02:41:55,879 Speaker 30: I mean, I'm not coming here too, just like soak 3547 02:41:55,920 --> 02:41:57,960 Speaker 30: it in and just oh, I'm happy, Like, no, I'm 3548 02:41:57,959 --> 02:41:59,320 Speaker 30: not here to do that, like I'm here to win. 3549 02:41:59,600 --> 02:42:01,680 Speaker 30: I saw I've ever been about, you know, in my career, 3550 02:42:01,720 --> 02:42:03,920 Speaker 30: I've been trying to just be the best I can 3551 02:42:03,959 --> 02:42:05,560 Speaker 30: be and help the team the best way I can. 3552 02:42:06,120 --> 02:42:08,800 Speaker 30: And in those little steps you take big steps, you know, 3553 02:42:09,000 --> 02:42:11,840 Speaker 30: because you know it's the small details that make the 3554 02:42:11,879 --> 02:42:16,040 Speaker 30: biggest leaps. And you know, talking to Terrell Williams, I 3555 02:42:16,080 --> 02:42:18,040 Speaker 30: mean Terence Williams before I came here, he was just 3556 02:42:18,200 --> 02:42:23,200 Speaker 30: like he felt as if that like, you know, after 3557 02:42:23,280 --> 02:42:26,200 Speaker 30: that sign, he felt like we were closer to being 3558 02:42:26,360 --> 02:42:28,600 Speaker 30: good than other people thought. Like he was like, you know, man, 3559 02:42:29,160 --> 02:42:30,800 Speaker 30: now that we got you in the guys, I feel 3560 02:42:30,879 --> 02:42:33,120 Speaker 30: he felt as if like people, you know, may look 3561 02:42:33,160 --> 02:42:35,120 Speaker 30: at that record last year and may think, well, they 3562 02:42:35,160 --> 02:42:36,880 Speaker 30: have a way to go. It doesn't matter like what 3563 02:42:36,920 --> 02:42:38,959 Speaker 30: they who they bring in. But in this league, it's 3564 02:42:39,040 --> 02:42:41,520 Speaker 30: just the small things. It could be one, two, three 3565 02:42:41,680 --> 02:42:44,120 Speaker 30: players that just change it and turn it all around, 3566 02:42:44,160 --> 02:42:46,880 Speaker 30: with the leadership, with the play on the field, with 3567 02:42:47,080 --> 02:42:49,640 Speaker 30: the plays they make, the timely plays, because you know, 3568 02:42:50,120 --> 02:42:52,480 Speaker 30: in games, it's just the difference is just a couple 3569 02:42:52,520 --> 02:42:55,880 Speaker 30: of plays, if you think about it, and third down situations, 3570 02:42:55,959 --> 02:42:58,960 Speaker 30: red soon, red zone situations. So when you get better 3571 02:42:59,040 --> 02:43:01,880 Speaker 30: in those fields and you have better players situationally, you 3572 02:43:01,959 --> 02:43:03,000 Speaker 30: can be better overall. 3573 02:43:03,120 --> 02:43:06,240 Speaker 6: Yes, Coach Rabel said when he came here first, he said, 3574 02:43:06,320 --> 02:43:08,480 Speaker 6: we just want to be a team that takes advantage 3575 02:43:08,520 --> 02:43:12,800 Speaker 6: of bad football. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Hey, I appreciate you 3576 02:43:12,920 --> 02:43:15,960 Speaker 6: coming by. We spend a kind of whirlwind today, so 3577 02:43:16,120 --> 02:43:18,160 Speaker 6: we'll let you get back at it. But welcome to 3578 02:43:18,240 --> 02:43:18,720 Speaker 6: New England. 3579 02:43:18,840 --> 02:43:19,680 Speaker 15: Thank you guys for having me. 3580 02:43:20,000 --> 02:43:21,000 Speaker 6: All right, happy to meet you. 3581 02:43:21,080 --> 02:43:21,240 Speaker 11: Guys. 3582 02:43:22,400 --> 02:43:23,400 Speaker 9: What number they get you there? 3583 02:43:24,360 --> 02:43:26,640 Speaker 6: All right, that's going to be your number? Yes, okay, 3584 02:43:27,120 --> 02:43:30,640 Speaker 6: all right, there we go, thank you, all right, thank you. 3585 02:43:31,120 --> 02:43:33,840 Speaker 3: It was like maybe like a double O seven there 3586 02:43:33,920 --> 02:43:39,840 Speaker 3: we go. Yeah, and Gonzo, Yeah, that's that's awesome. 3587 02:43:39,920 --> 02:43:40,320 Speaker 5: That's fun. 3588 02:43:40,480 --> 02:43:43,800 Speaker 4: It's going to spoil Mike Reese's content because we already 3589 02:43:43,879 --> 02:43:46,520 Speaker 4: know what all the new guys are wearing. Fourteen for Spolain, 3590 02:43:47,640 --> 02:43:50,039 Speaker 4: seventy six for for Moses. Ninety seven for. 3591 02:43:50,400 --> 02:43:53,439 Speaker 3: Seventy six is a great tackle number offensive. 3592 02:43:54,600 --> 02:43:58,640 Speaker 6: He different voice obviously reminds me a little bit of 3593 02:43:58,720 --> 02:43:59,039 Speaker 6: to lead. 3594 02:43:59,720 --> 02:43:59,840 Speaker 5: You know. 3595 02:44:00,040 --> 02:44:02,440 Speaker 6: It's like you know Sharp. 3596 02:44:02,840 --> 02:44:03,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, wow. 3597 02:44:04,000 --> 02:44:05,400 Speaker 9: I never got to talk to Eily but. 3598 02:44:11,040 --> 02:44:14,440 Speaker 3: Hold a bake sale for But I just love, you know, 3599 02:44:14,600 --> 02:44:17,720 Speaker 3: listening to to Carlon Davis talk now and at the 3600 02:44:17,760 --> 02:44:20,440 Speaker 3: podium and with Gonzo, but we know of him, Like 3601 02:44:20,680 --> 02:44:23,240 Speaker 3: these are two guys that want that matchup, Like they 3602 02:44:23,440 --> 02:44:26,760 Speaker 3: want to go up against Jamar Chase and they want 3603 02:44:26,800 --> 02:44:29,840 Speaker 3: to go up against Tyreek Hill and those types of guys. 3604 02:44:29,840 --> 02:44:31,840 Speaker 3: So it would be interesting like how they battle it 3605 02:44:31,920 --> 02:44:34,720 Speaker 3: out for who gets who you know on Sundays and stuff, 3606 02:44:34,800 --> 02:44:37,360 Speaker 3: and uh, you know you get that cat AND's like, 3607 02:44:37,440 --> 02:44:39,520 Speaker 3: actually I'm going to take Tyreek this week. You know, 3608 02:44:39,560 --> 02:44:42,039 Speaker 3: you get him next time. So but they they're both 3609 02:44:42,120 --> 02:44:44,920 Speaker 3: that mentality of let's let's get it, you know, let's 3610 02:44:44,920 --> 02:44:45,840 Speaker 3: get those good stuff. 3611 02:44:45,920 --> 02:44:48,760 Speaker 6: Maybe Ryan's still on the phone. Ryan, you're still there. 3612 02:44:49,520 --> 02:44:50,720 Speaker 3: Sorry, Yeah, I'm still here. 3613 02:44:51,440 --> 02:44:55,080 Speaker 6: Good for you, all right, So the floor is yours. 3614 02:44:56,440 --> 02:45:00,960 Speaker 36: Yeah, Like I was talking earlier with on the stuff 3615 02:45:01,440 --> 02:45:03,360 Speaker 36: since we signed him and we've got that duo now 3616 02:45:03,400 --> 02:45:06,039 Speaker 36: on a lock with John, do I feel like at 3617 02:45:06,120 --> 02:45:08,320 Speaker 36: number four we really got to get Hunter. You can't 3618 02:45:08,360 --> 02:45:10,360 Speaker 36: pass up that talent, especially now that he could do 3619 02:45:11,160 --> 02:45:15,520 Speaker 36: more offense and have the design quarterback plays, especially in. 3620 02:45:15,520 --> 02:45:16,600 Speaker 37: The McDaniel's run offense. 3621 02:45:16,600 --> 02:45:18,160 Speaker 36: So I was just wanting to see what y'all thought 3622 02:45:18,160 --> 02:45:18,440 Speaker 36: about that. 3623 02:45:18,959 --> 02:45:22,600 Speaker 8: Okay Hunter, I mean, if Hunter's there, if Hunter Carter there, 3624 02:45:22,600 --> 02:45:23,200 Speaker 8: Oh I don't. 3625 02:45:23,200 --> 02:45:26,320 Speaker 6: I mean, can you imagine, like, forget about wide receiver, 3626 02:45:26,400 --> 02:45:28,520 Speaker 6: because I think if you bring him in, the first 3627 02:45:28,560 --> 02:45:30,600 Speaker 6: thing you got to do is get his looks at 3628 02:45:30,640 --> 02:45:33,000 Speaker 6: wide receiver. Could you imagine the three of them on 3629 02:45:33,080 --> 02:45:36,800 Speaker 6: the field at the same time. Holy crap. Yeah, that 3630 02:45:37,040 --> 02:45:40,160 Speaker 6: that might be like, like I know, I'm getting crazy here, 3631 02:45:40,440 --> 02:45:43,240 Speaker 6: but over time, that could be looked at the best 3632 02:45:43,400 --> 02:45:46,360 Speaker 6: cornerback trio in the history of the NFL. 3633 02:45:46,520 --> 02:45:49,119 Speaker 8: I mean I got together those two guys on the outside, 3634 02:45:49,160 --> 02:45:51,360 Speaker 8: Travis Hunter kind of roaming around, you know, letting him 3635 02:45:51,400 --> 02:45:53,400 Speaker 8: do his thing. I just I was thinking of the 3636 02:45:53,480 --> 02:45:56,480 Speaker 8: draft night party where obviously the picks come in, and 3637 02:45:56,560 --> 02:45:59,800 Speaker 8: if that third pick were to be Shuldar Sanders and 3638 02:46:00,120 --> 02:46:02,480 Speaker 8: everyone knows Hunters sitting there. I mean, you know, I 3639 02:46:02,520 --> 02:46:04,240 Speaker 8: hang the whole their whole draft party, you will probably 3640 02:46:04,240 --> 02:46:07,760 Speaker 8: start trying it travels. You know, I hard pressed to 3641 02:46:07,800 --> 02:46:08,840 Speaker 8: find somebody who doesn't. 3642 02:46:09,240 --> 02:46:10,320 Speaker 9: All right, I wouldn't want him. 3643 02:46:10,760 --> 02:46:13,920 Speaker 6: We have our third guest coming in and everybody. It's 3644 02:46:13,959 --> 02:46:22,800 Speaker 6: a big one. All right, how are you? You know? 3645 02:46:23,040 --> 02:46:23,840 Speaker 9: Clips the camera? 3646 02:46:24,600 --> 02:46:28,959 Speaker 6: All right, Morgan Moses, Oh my goodness, welcome. 3647 02:46:29,080 --> 02:46:31,680 Speaker 4: I want to lead off right away by saying, I'd 3648 02:46:31,800 --> 02:46:32,840 Speaker 4: like you to be my life coach. 3649 02:46:33,080 --> 02:46:34,800 Speaker 5: I got you, I got you. 3650 02:46:35,280 --> 02:46:37,440 Speaker 4: I was so impressed with you know, Fred and I 3651 02:46:37,600 --> 02:46:40,240 Speaker 4: sat here listening to the press conference. I was just 3652 02:46:40,320 --> 02:46:43,560 Speaker 4: so impressed listening to you talk about the bond of 3653 02:46:43,920 --> 02:46:46,440 Speaker 4: the offensive line in particular, and it's like everything that 3654 02:46:46,520 --> 02:46:48,960 Speaker 4: went with it. You work with your kids. I just 3655 02:46:49,680 --> 02:46:53,000 Speaker 4: I need you to take me under your man six 3656 02:46:53,080 --> 02:46:53,440 Speaker 4: I still have. 3657 02:46:54,440 --> 02:46:56,400 Speaker 5: Life is a remolving door man. You learn as you 3658 02:46:56,480 --> 02:46:56,879 Speaker 5: go man. 3659 02:46:57,000 --> 02:47:00,280 Speaker 32: So it's it's no better feeling to be able to 3660 02:47:00,320 --> 02:47:02,520 Speaker 32: give back to you know, your young kings and showing 3661 02:47:02,560 --> 02:47:03,360 Speaker 32: them the way we. 3662 02:47:03,400 --> 02:47:05,840 Speaker 6: Were talking about, like what's our favorite signing, because it's 3663 02:47:05,879 --> 02:47:09,000 Speaker 6: not often the Patriots have had this amount of signing 3664 02:47:09,120 --> 02:47:11,040 Speaker 6: so early in free agency a couple of times, but 3665 02:47:11,200 --> 02:47:15,199 Speaker 6: not often. You're the unanimous vote, like you're our favorite 3666 02:47:15,240 --> 02:47:18,720 Speaker 6: signing because you it seems to me that you bring 3667 02:47:18,800 --> 02:47:23,160 Speaker 6: a level of maturity and experience that this team needs, 3668 02:47:23,240 --> 02:47:26,560 Speaker 6: especially in offensive line leader than Andrews is now gone. 3669 02:47:26,640 --> 02:47:28,640 Speaker 6: You know, you probably heard that he was the captain, 3670 02:47:29,440 --> 02:47:31,600 Speaker 6: Michael on one you was our most experienced guy. He's 3671 02:47:31,640 --> 02:47:32,280 Speaker 6: twenty seven. 3672 02:47:32,600 --> 02:47:34,320 Speaker 5: By the way, I can't wait to play beside Mike. 3673 02:47:34,600 --> 02:47:37,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, oh oh, I can't wait. And wait, I 3674 02:47:37,080 --> 02:47:37,480 Speaker 6: can't wait. 3675 02:47:38,040 --> 02:47:39,280 Speaker 9: I defenses can wait. 3676 02:47:41,200 --> 02:47:45,080 Speaker 6: Frankly, Morgan, the line needs that leadership. Are you ready 3677 02:47:45,160 --> 02:47:47,800 Speaker 6: for that? Are you willing to be that leader? 3678 02:47:48,000 --> 02:47:49,840 Speaker 32: I'm gonna tell you this, man, my great great great 3679 02:47:49,879 --> 02:47:53,040 Speaker 32: great great great great great great grandfather part of the 3680 02:47:53,120 --> 02:47:56,280 Speaker 32: rec a long time ago. So I was built for this. 3681 02:47:58,800 --> 02:48:07,640 Speaker 6: Now where that's good to know because I think we 3682 02:48:08,040 --> 02:48:08,320 Speaker 6: need that. 3683 02:48:08,680 --> 02:48:10,640 Speaker 8: Yes, sir, yeah, you come from the Jets and the 3684 02:48:10,720 --> 02:48:12,480 Speaker 8: Ravens the last few years, and what was just your 3685 02:48:12,520 --> 02:48:13,640 Speaker 8: impression and that's the two of. 3686 02:48:13,640 --> 02:48:14,720 Speaker 9: The great rivals. 3687 02:48:14,800 --> 02:48:16,039 Speaker 5: But the Patriots here, what. 3688 02:48:16,080 --> 02:48:17,680 Speaker 9: Was kind of impression of these games as you were 3689 02:48:17,720 --> 02:48:18,400 Speaker 9: on the other side of it? 3690 02:48:18,920 --> 02:48:21,400 Speaker 32: You know, obviously, man coming in here is not easy 3691 02:48:21,480 --> 02:48:24,360 Speaker 32: to play, man like. The fans are just die hard, 3692 02:48:24,600 --> 02:48:27,320 Speaker 32: you know, they are die hard, and obviously, you know, 3693 02:48:27,360 --> 02:48:29,680 Speaker 32: when you come to an organization that has won so much, 3694 02:48:29,800 --> 02:48:33,920 Speaker 32: right the lineage of history of you know, a great owner, 3695 02:48:34,160 --> 02:48:36,720 Speaker 32: you know, great coaches, that came through here, great players. 3696 02:48:37,520 --> 02:48:39,720 Speaker 5: You know, my son was teasing me earlier, he said, 3697 02:48:39,720 --> 02:48:43,520 Speaker 5: did you did you play against coach ten years old? 3698 02:48:43,520 --> 02:48:45,080 Speaker 5: I said, no, bro, I'm not that old man. I 3699 02:48:45,360 --> 02:48:46,200 Speaker 5: didn't play against them. 3700 02:48:46,440 --> 02:48:49,280 Speaker 32: But obviously I've had a number of battles, you know, 3701 02:48:49,400 --> 02:48:52,280 Speaker 32: against this team over the course of my career, and 3702 02:48:52,560 --> 02:48:53,960 Speaker 32: it's always been fun to play. 3703 02:48:54,000 --> 02:48:54,120 Speaker 5: Here. 3704 02:48:54,160 --> 02:48:56,800 Speaker 32: Has always been tough games, down to the down to 3705 02:48:56,879 --> 02:48:59,320 Speaker 32: the wire, and that's what you want, right like, even 3706 02:48:59,440 --> 02:49:01,680 Speaker 32: you know, the couple of years, you know, we can 3707 02:49:01,720 --> 02:49:03,760 Speaker 32: sit here and say that, you know, we haven't been great, 3708 02:49:04,640 --> 02:49:06,160 Speaker 32: but you know, when you go out there and look 3709 02:49:06,200 --> 02:49:08,760 Speaker 32: at the film, you got guys that's running through walls 3710 02:49:09,480 --> 02:49:12,000 Speaker 32: until that last whistle, And that's what you want, you know, 3711 02:49:12,080 --> 02:49:14,720 Speaker 32: when you bring when you look at a team and say, hey, like, hey, 3712 02:49:14,760 --> 02:49:16,840 Speaker 32: we're not where we're where we want to be at 3713 02:49:16,959 --> 02:49:19,720 Speaker 32: right now, but we have some guys, you know, we 3714 02:49:19,840 --> 02:49:22,320 Speaker 32: have some guys that we can build with and build from. 3715 02:49:22,760 --> 02:49:24,680 Speaker 32: And then you add coach Rabel, who's done it at 3716 02:49:24,680 --> 02:49:27,280 Speaker 32: a high level on multiple you know levels as a 3717 02:49:27,360 --> 02:49:30,640 Speaker 32: coach and player. You know, I think I said this 3718 02:49:30,720 --> 02:49:33,200 Speaker 32: in the press conference earlier. You know, shoot, he holds 3719 02:49:33,240 --> 02:49:35,000 Speaker 32: that bag for guys, and I just watch him on 3720 02:49:35,040 --> 02:49:37,160 Speaker 32: the sideline getting punched and I'm like, man, I'm holding 3721 02:49:37,200 --> 02:49:39,680 Speaker 32: it for nine and ten years old when I'm coaching, 3722 02:49:39,720 --> 02:49:41,160 Speaker 32: and I'm like, it hurts, bro, you know. 3723 02:49:41,320 --> 02:49:42,960 Speaker 5: So just being able to see him do that and 3724 02:49:43,080 --> 02:49:45,080 Speaker 5: give back and not just be a. 3725 02:49:45,160 --> 02:49:47,760 Speaker 32: Coach man like he understands because he's played this game 3726 02:49:47,800 --> 02:49:49,600 Speaker 32: at a high level, he's won at a high level. 3727 02:49:50,320 --> 02:49:52,520 Speaker 32: It only makes the players exciting in the locker room 3728 02:49:52,560 --> 02:49:54,840 Speaker 32: because it's coming from a guy that's been through the 3729 02:49:55,040 --> 02:49:56,760 Speaker 32: the you know, he's been through it. 3730 02:49:56,840 --> 02:49:57,560 Speaker 5: He's been through the war. 3731 02:49:57,840 --> 02:50:00,640 Speaker 6: So arm blanked is always a big ti with Will 3732 02:50:00,720 --> 02:50:04,160 Speaker 6: Campbell possibly you know, in the range for the Patriots. 3733 02:50:04,200 --> 02:50:06,280 Speaker 6: You know, he came in under thirty four and just 3734 02:50:07,800 --> 02:50:11,160 Speaker 6: you're thirty five thirty three your arm Like, can you 3735 02:50:11,360 --> 02:50:13,840 Speaker 6: just explain because our listeners ask us and we don't know. 3736 02:50:13,959 --> 02:50:16,440 Speaker 6: We don't play the position, like, what does that extra 3737 02:50:16,640 --> 02:50:18,560 Speaker 6: arm leg help when you're a tackle? 3738 02:50:18,760 --> 02:50:20,880 Speaker 32: Well, I'm gonna say this, man, when I first got 3739 02:50:20,920 --> 02:50:22,720 Speaker 32: in the league, I didn't I didn't know how to 3740 02:50:22,840 --> 02:50:25,080 Speaker 32: use lengthy you know. I had a great coach and 3741 02:50:25,120 --> 02:50:28,640 Speaker 32: Bill Callahan, who's well known throughout this league, and he he, 3742 02:50:28,840 --> 02:50:30,880 Speaker 32: he was like, hey, like, man, like, you're working too 3743 02:50:30,959 --> 02:50:32,600 Speaker 32: hard trying to move your feet to keep up with 3744 02:50:32,680 --> 02:50:35,240 Speaker 32: these guys. You gotta use this god giving gift that 3745 02:50:35,360 --> 02:50:37,600 Speaker 32: you got to these long arms, and and so just 3746 02:50:37,680 --> 02:50:40,520 Speaker 32: being able to learn from those things and being able to, 3747 02:50:40,959 --> 02:50:42,640 Speaker 32: you know, put those in my game and learning that 3748 02:50:42,760 --> 02:50:44,840 Speaker 32: offensive line can have a tool kit just like pass 3749 02:50:45,000 --> 02:50:47,920 Speaker 32: rushers as well. It's been vital to my career and so, 3750 02:50:48,840 --> 02:50:50,680 Speaker 32: you know, but everybody has their their own, their own 3751 02:50:50,800 --> 02:50:53,480 Speaker 32: niche right like I played with Trent Williams, who probably 3752 02:50:53,560 --> 02:50:56,800 Speaker 32: doesn't necessarily have the longest arms, but who's an amazing 3753 02:50:56,879 --> 02:50:59,119 Speaker 32: athlete and can stay in front of guys that run 3754 02:50:59,200 --> 02:51:02,280 Speaker 32: for too So you know, God blesses us in different 3755 02:51:02,320 --> 02:51:05,280 Speaker 32: dassets of life and in different ways, and you got 3756 02:51:05,360 --> 02:51:06,440 Speaker 32: to be able to use those things. 3757 02:51:06,480 --> 02:51:09,080 Speaker 5: And I think Will Campbell, you speak, who's been getting a. 3758 02:51:09,080 --> 02:51:11,800 Speaker 6: Little you know, a little hot about the arm laf. 3759 02:51:12,080 --> 02:51:13,880 Speaker 32: You know, obviously, you know, I think it was a 3760 02:51:13,920 --> 02:51:15,920 Speaker 32: stat out there that said that he's blocked like the 3761 02:51:16,040 --> 02:51:19,400 Speaker 32: top fifteen rushers in the combine. And obviously he's done 3762 02:51:19,400 --> 02:51:21,080 Speaker 32: a pretty well job because he wouldn't be in a 3763 02:51:21,200 --> 02:51:23,240 Speaker 32: in a in a conversation of a top ten So 3764 02:51:24,120 --> 02:51:25,920 Speaker 32: you know, obviously you know he's found a way to 3765 02:51:25,959 --> 02:51:26,840 Speaker 32: get around those things. 3766 02:51:27,000 --> 02:51:27,200 Speaker 6: Yep. 3767 02:51:28,240 --> 02:51:30,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned Mike on one and the first thing 3768 02:51:30,800 --> 02:51:32,800 Speaker 3: I thought of when they signed just you you two 3769 02:51:32,879 --> 02:51:35,359 Speaker 3: on a double team is gonna move some mountains. 3770 02:51:35,520 --> 02:51:37,640 Speaker 4: Wo yeah, yeah, exactly. 3771 02:51:40,160 --> 02:51:42,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 3772 02:51:42,720 --> 02:51:45,039 Speaker 3: And there's a point that you guys were backed up 3773 02:51:45,080 --> 02:51:47,000 Speaker 3: on your own goal line last year and they just 3774 02:51:47,200 --> 02:51:49,440 Speaker 3: ran do a right behind you on that right side. 3775 02:51:49,520 --> 02:51:51,160 Speaker 3: Now you're going to be next to Big Mike. Just 3776 02:51:51,520 --> 02:51:54,000 Speaker 3: how much are you looking forward to those types of 3777 02:51:54,400 --> 02:51:55,880 Speaker 3: moments with him and playing with him. 3778 02:51:57,000 --> 02:51:59,720 Speaker 32: Mike's played, uh, you know, obviously watching off his line, 3779 02:51:59,720 --> 02:52:02,600 Speaker 32: he's all across the board. He's done a phenomenal job 3780 02:52:02,640 --> 02:52:05,280 Speaker 32: at each position he's played. That I think now he 3781 02:52:05,320 --> 02:52:07,200 Speaker 32: gets to find a home in one spot, you know, 3782 02:52:07,320 --> 02:52:10,240 Speaker 32: And I look forward to being able to build that 3783 02:52:10,360 --> 02:52:12,800 Speaker 32: chemistry with him, and obviously getting to know him off 3784 02:52:12,840 --> 02:52:15,280 Speaker 32: the field is going to make our relationship better on 3785 02:52:15,440 --> 02:52:18,440 Speaker 32: the field. But just also you know, obviously picking his brain. 3786 02:52:18,520 --> 02:52:20,680 Speaker 32: You know, he's a he's a football a great football player. 3787 02:52:20,680 --> 02:52:22,520 Speaker 32: He's a smart player. He's played a lot of football, 3788 02:52:22,879 --> 02:52:25,720 Speaker 32: and I never leave the cap, you know, sealed of like, hey, 3789 02:52:25,760 --> 02:52:26,400 Speaker 32: I know it all. 3790 02:52:27,120 --> 02:52:27,280 Speaker 16: You know. 3791 02:52:27,320 --> 02:52:29,480 Speaker 6: I feel like I still the wise man knows nothing. 3792 02:52:30,560 --> 02:52:32,240 Speaker 5: I feel like I have a lot to learn still 3793 02:52:32,280 --> 02:52:32,720 Speaker 5: in this game. 3794 02:52:32,800 --> 02:52:34,400 Speaker 32: And that's why I keep on coming back to play 3795 02:52:34,440 --> 02:52:36,200 Speaker 32: it because it's it's such a fun time to be 3796 02:52:36,240 --> 02:52:38,600 Speaker 32: able to come back and and play football and get 3797 02:52:38,640 --> 02:52:40,200 Speaker 32: something to do, get to do something that you love 3798 02:52:40,240 --> 02:52:41,040 Speaker 32: to do at a high level. 3799 02:52:41,160 --> 02:52:43,000 Speaker 8: I know your availability has been such a big part 3800 02:52:43,040 --> 02:52:46,400 Speaker 8: of your career. I heard you mentioned yoga up in there. 3801 02:52:46,720 --> 02:52:48,840 Speaker 8: What what how do you How was your training evolved 3802 02:52:48,959 --> 02:52:50,360 Speaker 8: and tell me a little bit about you doing yoga. 3803 02:52:50,440 --> 02:52:51,440 Speaker 5: That's a man I had. 3804 02:52:52,000 --> 02:52:53,920 Speaker 32: I had, Like I said earlier, man I had, I 3805 02:52:54,000 --> 02:52:55,840 Speaker 32: had great vents when I first got in the league. Man, 3806 02:52:55,920 --> 02:52:57,680 Speaker 32: so I had Trent Williams, and then I had a 3807 02:52:57,720 --> 02:53:00,800 Speaker 32: guy named Jason Hatcher who when I was in Washington 3808 02:53:00,840 --> 02:53:03,800 Speaker 32: we had got from Dallas and his locker was beside me. 3809 02:53:03,920 --> 02:53:06,200 Speaker 32: And and you know, my rookie year, I had List. 3810 02:53:06,360 --> 02:53:08,920 Speaker 32: I had the list Frank surgery. So I didn't play 3811 02:53:08,959 --> 02:53:10,920 Speaker 32: that much my rookie year. And he would pull me 3812 02:53:11,000 --> 02:53:13,119 Speaker 32: to the side during the offseason and say, hey, man, 3813 02:53:13,240 --> 02:53:15,160 Speaker 32: like I see something in you that you might not 3814 02:53:15,320 --> 02:53:17,240 Speaker 32: see yet. And so he would pick me up every 3815 02:53:17,280 --> 02:53:19,199 Speaker 32: Tuesday on the off day and take me to yoga. 3816 02:53:19,240 --> 02:53:21,080 Speaker 32: He would teach me how to eat right, eat clean, 3817 02:53:21,600 --> 02:53:24,320 Speaker 32: And I think that's the word where my you know, 3818 02:53:24,440 --> 02:53:27,840 Speaker 32: the dedication of rededicating myself to football and learning football 3819 02:53:27,959 --> 02:53:30,840 Speaker 32: from another angle helped me grow as a player. 3820 02:53:30,879 --> 02:53:33,320 Speaker 5: And so just finding different things right because like I mean, 3821 02:53:33,320 --> 02:53:33,640 Speaker 5: we can. 3822 02:53:33,560 --> 02:53:34,960 Speaker 32: Sit here and say, man, we can go in there 3823 02:53:34,959 --> 02:53:36,840 Speaker 32: and throw four hundred pounds on the bench and do 3824 02:53:36,959 --> 02:53:39,120 Speaker 32: all these things, but it gets boring sometimes, you know, 3825 02:53:39,160 --> 02:53:40,039 Speaker 32: you want to change it up. 3826 02:53:40,520 --> 02:53:41,720 Speaker 5: So yoga is a little challenging. 3827 02:53:41,800 --> 02:53:43,560 Speaker 32: And I tend to stay in the back of the 3828 02:53:43,680 --> 02:53:45,480 Speaker 32: room because I see a lot of people in there 3829 02:53:45,520 --> 02:53:48,360 Speaker 32: that's like way better than me, like but at it. 3830 02:53:48,440 --> 02:53:50,600 Speaker 32: But it's challenging, man. It's it's more than just a 3831 02:53:50,680 --> 02:53:53,280 Speaker 32: workout as a mental thing. Obviously, being able to stay 3832 02:53:53,280 --> 02:53:55,600 Speaker 32: in that heat for a long period of time while stretching. 3833 02:53:56,160 --> 02:53:58,480 Speaker 32: But when you leave that thing, man, you you leave refreshed, 3834 02:53:58,480 --> 02:54:01,040 Speaker 32: you leave renewed, And and that's one thing I love 3835 02:54:01,080 --> 02:54:01,400 Speaker 32: about it. 3836 02:54:01,480 --> 02:54:03,720 Speaker 6: We had a quarterback here who stress pliability. 3837 02:54:04,240 --> 02:54:04,920 Speaker 5: He was big on that. 3838 02:54:05,160 --> 02:54:06,040 Speaker 4: You might have heard about him. 3839 02:54:06,120 --> 02:54:09,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, don't worry. I'll be tapping into some things as too. 3840 02:54:10,480 --> 02:54:12,959 Speaker 6: I would be remiss. And I've been asked to ask 3841 02:54:13,120 --> 02:54:15,959 Speaker 6: you who does your glasses and what are you wearing 3842 02:54:18,040 --> 02:54:18,680 Speaker 6: those glasses? 3843 02:54:21,200 --> 02:54:23,920 Speaker 5: So let's just put it on the table. I do 3844 02:54:24,040 --> 02:54:26,560 Speaker 5: not wear glasses for real. These are just all fashioned. 3845 02:54:28,760 --> 02:54:31,640 Speaker 5: I appreciate it, but it's working. I appreciate it, man, 3846 02:54:31,680 --> 02:54:32,400 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. No. 3847 02:54:32,720 --> 02:54:35,440 Speaker 32: I love fashion, man, I'm always I've always been into it. 3848 02:54:35,800 --> 02:54:37,920 Speaker 32: You know, I grew up in the church, going to church, 3849 02:54:38,000 --> 02:54:40,320 Speaker 32: so you know, you know, you always say Sunday best. 3850 02:54:40,360 --> 02:54:42,960 Speaker 32: And then obviously a long time ago when I got 3851 02:54:43,040 --> 02:54:46,960 Speaker 32: in the league, you had to wear suits, so you know, 3852 02:54:47,040 --> 02:54:49,280 Speaker 32: you had to wear suits every every time you traveled. 3853 02:54:49,320 --> 02:54:51,800 Speaker 32: So that was part of just you know, the league 3854 02:54:51,800 --> 02:54:54,000 Speaker 32: of getting ready, just getting ready on Sunday. And I think, 3855 02:54:54,040 --> 02:54:56,320 Speaker 32: you know, Deon Sandra says his best, right, you look good, 3856 02:54:56,360 --> 02:54:59,120 Speaker 32: you play good. So obviously hopefully I can hold that, 3857 02:54:59,280 --> 02:55:01,080 Speaker 32: hold that up to a a high tier that he 3858 02:55:01,360 --> 02:55:02,039 Speaker 32: that he held. 3859 02:55:01,879 --> 02:55:02,200 Speaker 5: It up to. 3860 02:55:03,160 --> 02:55:04,520 Speaker 9: That's seventy six is gonna look at. 3861 02:55:04,400 --> 02:55:06,119 Speaker 6: On you Morgan. 3862 02:55:06,160 --> 02:55:09,680 Speaker 3: You mentioned Drake May at your press conference and just 3863 02:55:10,720 --> 02:55:13,520 Speaker 3: talk about you know, blocking for him, and how excited 3864 02:55:13,600 --> 02:55:15,480 Speaker 3: you are to have a young quarterback like that back. 3865 02:55:16,000 --> 02:55:18,160 Speaker 32: You know, first of all, man, shout out to the ACC. 3866 02:55:18,360 --> 02:55:20,520 Speaker 32: Man putting out some good products. Man, we don't get 3867 02:55:20,640 --> 02:55:22,640 Speaker 32: enough love in the ACC. So I'm gonna go ahead 3868 02:55:22,640 --> 02:55:24,240 Speaker 32: and say that even though we were like the oldest 3869 02:55:24,320 --> 02:55:28,560 Speaker 32: rivalry against UVA versus you and see. But obviously the 3870 02:55:28,640 --> 02:55:30,960 Speaker 32: things he's done, man, you know, obviously it's not easy 3871 02:55:31,080 --> 02:55:33,960 Speaker 32: coming in as a first round quarterback and not playing 3872 02:55:34,080 --> 02:55:36,720 Speaker 32: right away. You have to, you know, look yourself in 3873 02:55:36,760 --> 02:55:39,279 Speaker 32: the mirror and humble yourself on those things. And obviously 3874 02:55:39,400 --> 02:55:43,280 Speaker 32: talking to him today, man, beautiful soul, Man, beautiful guy, Ben, 3875 02:55:43,280 --> 02:55:46,000 Speaker 32: beautiful soul. Just what he brings to the table is humbleness. 3876 02:55:46,160 --> 02:55:48,320 Speaker 32: Is the first thing that you you notice, Man, you 3877 02:55:48,400 --> 02:55:50,720 Speaker 32: notice from him, just the humbleness that he has. And 3878 02:55:50,840 --> 02:55:53,280 Speaker 32: then just the gritty, right, just the gritty of just 3879 02:55:53,320 --> 02:55:54,000 Speaker 32: playing the game. 3880 02:55:54,080 --> 02:55:54,200 Speaker 28: Man. 3881 02:55:54,280 --> 02:55:56,760 Speaker 5: He runs around, he moves around. 3882 02:55:56,840 --> 02:56:00,400 Speaker 32: And obviously I played with a quarterback that probably does 3883 02:56:00,480 --> 02:56:03,560 Speaker 32: is the best of running running quarterbacks and Lamar Jackson. 3884 02:56:03,640 --> 02:56:06,440 Speaker 32: So I'm obviously I have a knack for knowing where 3885 02:56:06,480 --> 02:56:09,160 Speaker 32: the quarterback is at. And I just look forward to 3886 02:56:09,360 --> 02:56:11,560 Speaker 32: just you know, obviously learning from him, obviously, you know, 3887 02:56:12,040 --> 02:56:14,120 Speaker 32: learning from him, and then obviously you know, sprinkling some 3888 02:56:14,160 --> 02:56:16,720 Speaker 32: of my knowledge in there as well, and just you know, 3889 02:56:16,800 --> 02:56:19,680 Speaker 32: obviously just getting the five offensive lineman, you know, the 3890 02:56:19,760 --> 02:56:21,560 Speaker 32: five offensive lineman that we go out there. We have 3891 02:56:21,680 --> 02:56:24,160 Speaker 32: to work together because you know, the five office lineman 3892 02:56:24,240 --> 02:56:25,920 Speaker 32: and the quarterback. We never leave the field. We don't 3893 02:56:25,920 --> 02:56:27,760 Speaker 32: get water breaks, we don't get to tap our homes 3894 02:56:27,760 --> 02:56:29,480 Speaker 32: and say hey, coach, can I go tie my shoe? 3895 02:56:30,360 --> 02:56:31,800 Speaker 32: So we got to be out there, and so it's 3896 02:56:31,879 --> 02:56:34,760 Speaker 32: five equal ones. I said this last year on a podcast. 3897 02:56:34,840 --> 02:56:36,280 Speaker 32: I said, man, you know, when you look at the 3898 02:56:36,320 --> 02:56:38,119 Speaker 32: offensive line, you want it. It's like a shoe string 3899 02:56:38,200 --> 02:56:39,920 Speaker 32: going through a shoe. You want to go through it. 3900 02:56:40,160 --> 02:56:41,640 Speaker 32: You want the shoe string to go through the sneaker 3901 02:56:41,640 --> 02:56:45,480 Speaker 32: as fall as flawless as possible. And that just builds camaraderie, 3902 02:56:45,600 --> 02:56:48,560 Speaker 32: just building chemistry, trusting one another, accountability, getting to know 3903 02:56:48,640 --> 02:56:50,760 Speaker 32: each other off the field. So when you get on 3904 02:56:50,879 --> 02:56:52,520 Speaker 32: the field, you have no question in a doubt that 3905 02:56:52,600 --> 02:56:53,320 Speaker 32: this guy is ready to. 3906 02:56:53,320 --> 02:56:54,760 Speaker 5: Go to war with you or you. 3907 02:56:54,800 --> 02:56:57,640 Speaker 3: I mentioned you talked to Drake today. Yep, what was 3908 02:56:57,640 --> 02:56:59,600 Speaker 3: that conversation? Was it Is he here in person or 3909 02:56:59,680 --> 02:56:59,960 Speaker 3: is it over? 3910 02:57:00,120 --> 02:57:01,000 Speaker 5: No, he was here in person. 3911 02:57:01,080 --> 02:57:01,200 Speaker 34: Man. 3912 02:57:01,360 --> 02:57:03,800 Speaker 32: I saw him in the in the in the cafeteria, Man, 3913 02:57:03,840 --> 02:57:05,400 Speaker 32: and he came up and he was just like, hey, Man, 3914 02:57:05,560 --> 02:57:07,640 Speaker 32: excited to have you. Man, Ready to get to work man. 3915 02:57:07,680 --> 02:57:10,560 Speaker 32: And obviously, Man, you know, he has some big things 3916 02:57:10,600 --> 02:57:12,080 Speaker 32: in front of him going on. You know, he told 3917 02:57:12,120 --> 02:57:13,760 Speaker 32: me he's like he's getting married in June. So I 3918 02:57:13,879 --> 02:57:17,160 Speaker 32: was like, congratulations, man, So he's he's sitting it out 3919 02:57:17,160 --> 02:57:18,800 Speaker 32: of the park man. You know, I look forward to 3920 02:57:18,920 --> 02:57:21,000 Speaker 32: just getting getting to work with him, man and picking 3921 02:57:21,080 --> 02:57:24,320 Speaker 32: his brain. And obviously he was drafted high for a reason, 3922 02:57:25,080 --> 02:57:27,440 Speaker 32: and obviously the talent speaks for itself. So it's obviously 3923 02:57:27,560 --> 02:57:30,080 Speaker 32: just getting him out there, getting comfortable, knowing that he's 3924 02:57:30,160 --> 02:57:32,920 Speaker 32: protected up front, and you know it's gonna be a 3925 02:57:33,000 --> 02:57:33,440 Speaker 32: great deal. 3926 02:57:34,120 --> 02:57:36,200 Speaker 6: Well, we're getting the wrap up signed because we know 3927 02:57:36,320 --> 02:57:38,240 Speaker 6: you're busy. It's been a world war today. 3928 02:57:38,280 --> 02:57:40,440 Speaker 5: We appreciate you, No, I appreciate you man. Thank you. 3929 02:57:40,560 --> 02:57:43,039 Speaker 5: This won't be this won't be the last time time. 3930 02:57:43,760 --> 02:57:45,880 Speaker 6: You want to do a podcast. We'll get let's do it. 3931 02:57:45,959 --> 02:57:47,760 Speaker 5: Let's let's get it going. Let's get it going. 3932 02:57:47,879 --> 02:57:49,680 Speaker 6: But we look forward to watching you this year. 3933 02:57:49,760 --> 02:57:54,320 Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I appreciate it. Man, thank you, always appreciate you. 3934 02:57:54,400 --> 02:57:54,560 Speaker 30: Guys. 3935 02:57:54,959 --> 02:58:03,160 Speaker 6: Welcome Morgan, Moses, thanks a lot. All right, right tackle 3936 02:58:03,240 --> 02:58:04,279 Speaker 6: for the New England Patriots. 3937 02:58:04,320 --> 02:58:05,320 Speaker 5: There you go, There we go. 3938 02:58:05,600 --> 02:58:07,560 Speaker 4: As you can tell, Alex made it in so she 3939 02:58:07,640 --> 02:58:11,080 Speaker 4: can there, she can find out exactly where where those came. 3940 02:58:11,280 --> 02:58:12,640 Speaker 5: We all just want to pile in and go home 3941 02:58:12,680 --> 02:58:13,400 Speaker 5: with him and let him. 3942 02:58:13,879 --> 02:58:15,959 Speaker 6: I love where I'm looking for him my life. 3943 02:58:16,000 --> 02:58:18,600 Speaker 8: Cot Now it's you know, having watched the line the 3944 02:58:18,680 --> 02:58:20,920 Speaker 8: last couple of years, that that's the kind of guy 3945 02:58:20,959 --> 02:58:22,280 Speaker 8: you need in that room too, you know. 3946 02:58:22,480 --> 02:58:24,360 Speaker 4: I like how you know, not that I you know, 3947 02:58:25,400 --> 02:58:28,520 Speaker 4: it's a weird little thing, but Fred just taking ownership 3948 02:58:28,560 --> 02:58:31,560 Speaker 4: of like you know where was unanimous. I don't recall it. 3949 02:58:32,400 --> 02:58:33,640 Speaker 4: I recall being an island. 3950 02:58:33,680 --> 02:58:35,359 Speaker 9: I thought he was going to Paul his flowers. 3951 02:58:35,640 --> 02:58:37,680 Speaker 6: You were the one, yeah, the unanimous. 3952 02:58:37,720 --> 02:58:39,640 Speaker 4: You were a favorite for everybody. No, no, no, no, 3953 02:58:39,879 --> 02:58:40,880 Speaker 4: you were Paul's favorite. 3954 02:58:41,200 --> 02:58:43,600 Speaker 8: Well first, but you know after we heard them all, 3955 02:58:43,920 --> 02:58:46,640 Speaker 8: you know, no, I but I mean I was, you know, 3956 02:58:46,760 --> 02:58:50,800 Speaker 8: maybe slightly behind Paul, but everybody, everybody like yesterday, I mean, 3957 02:58:50,959 --> 02:58:52,480 Speaker 8: you know, just what a guy you can see why 3958 02:58:52,959 --> 02:58:54,920 Speaker 8: as a as a player, you'd love to have him 3959 02:58:54,959 --> 02:58:57,200 Speaker 8: as a teammate, especially because he's a monster and you 3960 02:58:57,360 --> 02:58:58,120 Speaker 8: protect you, you know. 3961 02:59:01,440 --> 02:59:04,400 Speaker 3: Sitting next to good friend Bob Soci and him and 3962 02:59:04,440 --> 02:59:06,560 Speaker 3: I looked at each other and were like, that's a tackle. 3963 02:59:07,640 --> 02:59:09,800 Speaker 4: That's an offense, and that's part of what I was 3964 02:59:09,840 --> 02:59:12,760 Speaker 4: getting at, Like, yeah, I think the guy is ridiculously impressive. 3965 02:59:12,840 --> 02:59:14,440 Speaker 4: You guys all heard it. You heard it twice now 3966 02:59:14,480 --> 02:59:16,000 Speaker 4: because you heard him at the podium and hear him 3967 02:59:16,040 --> 02:59:20,240 Speaker 4: again in person. That's all great. But if he can't play, 3968 02:59:20,320 --> 02:59:23,160 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. This guy can play. He's thirty four 3969 02:59:23,240 --> 02:59:24,800 Speaker 4: years old, he's been a tackle in this league for 3970 02:59:24,879 --> 02:59:26,960 Speaker 4: a long time, and he started a lot of games, 3971 02:59:27,080 --> 02:59:31,400 Speaker 4: so he brings both. That's just I'm really looking forward to. 3972 02:59:31,440 --> 02:59:31,560 Speaker 5: You know. 3973 02:59:31,840 --> 02:59:33,920 Speaker 6: He reminds us that he did play in front of 3974 02:59:34,000 --> 02:59:34,760 Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson. 3975 02:59:34,920 --> 02:59:36,760 Speaker 4: That was I think that was great. 3976 02:59:36,920 --> 02:59:38,760 Speaker 6: That's the guys all over. 3977 02:59:38,840 --> 02:59:40,960 Speaker 4: I have a knack for knowing where the quarterback is 3978 02:59:41,360 --> 02:59:43,039 Speaker 4: and that was one of the things that I think 3979 02:59:43,160 --> 02:59:46,520 Speaker 4: was a problem last year for Drake is because he's 3980 02:59:46,560 --> 02:59:50,240 Speaker 4: so elusive and mobile. I think there were times that 3981 02:59:50,320 --> 02:59:53,400 Speaker 4: he sort of scrambled himself into trouble because of it. 3982 02:59:53,640 --> 02:59:55,400 Speaker 8: I had one more question for him that I didn't 3983 02:59:55,400 --> 02:59:56,880 Speaker 8: get to ask, But it just seems he talked a 3984 02:59:56,920 --> 02:59:59,760 Speaker 8: lot about players and coaches that mentored him younger, earlier 3985 02:59:59,760 --> 03:00:02,080 Speaker 8: in his career, and it seems like he's taking a 3986 03:00:02,120 --> 03:00:04,720 Speaker 8: lot of uh satisfaction not of being able to do 3987 03:00:04,840 --> 03:00:07,720 Speaker 8: that himself now and pass that knowledge on to the 3988 03:00:07,760 --> 03:00:10,280 Speaker 8: next generation, which, as we've been talking about going back 3989 03:00:10,280 --> 03:00:12,000 Speaker 8: the last three hours, that's what this team needs with 3990 03:00:12,040 --> 03:00:12,959 Speaker 8: their young offensive one. 3991 03:00:12,959 --> 03:00:14,480 Speaker 6: All right, we'll do one more call and we're gonna 3992 03:00:14,480 --> 03:00:17,320 Speaker 6: wrap it up. We Uh, one of the longest shows 3993 03:00:17,360 --> 03:00:21,600 Speaker 6: we've done other than Draft night. Cam's in Providence. What's up, Cam? 3994 03:00:22,720 --> 03:00:24,240 Speaker 37: How's it going, guys? How's it going? 3995 03:00:24,440 --> 03:00:24,720 Speaker 6: Okay? 3996 03:00:26,440 --> 03:00:29,040 Speaker 34: So my question is, what do you think there's our 3997 03:00:29,040 --> 03:00:32,039 Speaker 34: biggest strength in weakness weaknesses on the rosterick before an 3998 03:00:32,120 --> 03:00:32,680 Speaker 34: NFL draft. 3999 03:00:33,320 --> 03:00:35,879 Speaker 6: What's our biggest weakness on the roster right now? 4000 03:00:36,160 --> 03:00:36,640 Speaker 9: Left tackle? 4001 03:00:36,760 --> 03:00:36,920 Speaker 5: Yeah? 4002 03:00:37,040 --> 03:00:38,359 Speaker 3: Left tackle would. 4003 03:00:39,560 --> 03:00:41,440 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I I'm not gonna argue with 4004 03:00:41,520 --> 03:00:42,879 Speaker 4: your offense. 4005 03:00:43,640 --> 03:00:44,680 Speaker 6: Do you guys think so? 4006 03:00:44,879 --> 03:00:47,480 Speaker 37: Do you guys think that we have an offensive draft 4007 03:00:47,959 --> 03:00:49,600 Speaker 37: or do we focus more in the middle. 4008 03:00:49,879 --> 03:00:51,880 Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be best players available. 4009 03:00:53,400 --> 03:00:54,199 Speaker 9: Bets. 4010 03:00:54,280 --> 03:00:56,760 Speaker 6: Tell me who's gonna who's gonna get drafted before us, 4011 03:00:56,879 --> 03:00:58,600 Speaker 6: and then we have a better idea of who we're 4012 03:00:58,600 --> 03:00:59,200 Speaker 6: gonna draft. 4013 03:01:00,240 --> 03:01:02,360 Speaker 4: Like, even though I think offense is the biggest need, 4014 03:01:03,280 --> 03:01:06,960 Speaker 4: just a complete shot in the dark hypothetical, Abdual Carter 4015 03:01:07,120 --> 03:01:08,880 Speaker 4: is available at four, I would take him. 4016 03:01:09,840 --> 03:01:10,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 4017 03:01:10,080 --> 03:01:11,840 Speaker 4: I don't see how you can pass him. 4018 03:01:11,760 --> 03:01:13,480 Speaker 6: Up unless Travis Hunter is also there. 4019 03:01:13,640 --> 03:01:14,400 Speaker 4: I would still take it. 4020 03:01:14,680 --> 03:01:17,879 Speaker 6: You have really, Oh, you would take Carter over Hunter. 4021 03:01:18,040 --> 03:01:20,280 Speaker 4: He's the number one pick in the draft, if I'm okay, 4022 03:01:20,440 --> 03:01:22,480 Speaker 4: if I'm picking, does everyone agree with that? That's me? 4023 03:01:22,680 --> 03:01:23,880 Speaker 6: I know, does everyone agree with that? 4024 03:01:24,120 --> 03:01:24,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? I think so. 4025 03:01:24,840 --> 03:01:29,560 Speaker 4: Really Okay, I'm not sure I do the dog part 4026 03:01:29,560 --> 03:01:29,959 Speaker 4: of the dog. 4027 03:01:30,480 --> 03:01:33,600 Speaker 6: Yeah he is. I think he's the best players, certainly 4028 03:01:33,640 --> 03:01:37,440 Speaker 6: the best defensive player in the draft. And I don't 4029 03:01:37,440 --> 03:01:39,520 Speaker 6: know the Hunter though it intrigues me the Hunter. 4030 03:01:39,600 --> 03:01:40,520 Speaker 9: Sure, yeah he does. 4031 03:01:40,560 --> 03:01:42,680 Speaker 8: I mean, and he might ultimately end up being the 4032 03:01:42,760 --> 03:01:45,240 Speaker 8: choice if he said, I like your take yesterday. 4033 03:01:45,480 --> 03:01:46,360 Speaker 4: You know you publish that. 4034 03:01:47,320 --> 03:01:49,080 Speaker 6: Okay, I'm not gonna I won't. 4035 03:01:48,879 --> 03:01:51,400 Speaker 4: Spoil it, all right, No, I would just say they 4036 03:01:51,400 --> 03:01:55,920 Speaker 4: were responsible. Question I know about it. No, I'm just 4037 03:01:56,000 --> 03:01:57,840 Speaker 4: gonna tell Evan right now, he's not gonna like that. 4038 03:01:58,680 --> 03:01:59,680 Speaker 4: I know Evan well enough. 4039 03:02:00,040 --> 03:02:01,440 Speaker 8: I would just say, though it feels like they're going 4040 03:02:01,520 --> 03:02:03,200 Speaker 8: to have to draft the tackle, I would love them 4041 03:02:03,280 --> 03:02:05,000 Speaker 8: just to always take a flyer on a wide receiver, 4042 03:02:05,360 --> 03:02:08,440 Speaker 8: one that's fast, please. And I just think the running 4043 03:02:08,440 --> 03:02:11,520 Speaker 8: back and tight end classes are intriguing now. Resigning Austin Hooper, 4044 03:02:11,560 --> 03:02:13,440 Speaker 8: I don't know for sure if you need to necessarily, 4045 03:02:13,879 --> 03:02:16,520 Speaker 8: but I would definitely try to tap the running back class, 4046 03:02:16,560 --> 03:02:18,920 Speaker 8: and that's the offensive side of the ball. Defensively, I 4047 03:02:18,920 --> 03:02:20,280 Speaker 8: think you got to find an edge guy. 4048 03:02:20,520 --> 03:02:21,240 Speaker 9: You got to find an. 4049 03:02:21,280 --> 03:02:23,240 Speaker 8: Edge guy, and after that, you know, I think you're 4050 03:02:23,320 --> 03:02:25,680 Speaker 8: free to you know, is there a free safety that 4051 03:02:25,760 --> 03:02:28,920 Speaker 8: you like? Is there a developmental linebacker behind you know, 4052 03:02:28,959 --> 03:02:31,000 Speaker 8: Bentley's gonna be a free agent next year. Maybe that's 4053 03:02:31,200 --> 03:02:33,200 Speaker 8: going to be a position in transition, trying to get 4054 03:02:33,240 --> 03:02:35,360 Speaker 8: back on like we talked about, Paul, you know this 4055 03:02:35,480 --> 03:02:36,240 Speaker 8: guy leaves. 4056 03:02:36,000 --> 03:02:37,360 Speaker 9: We've got a guy waiting in the wings. 4057 03:02:37,680 --> 03:02:37,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 4058 03:02:38,200 --> 03:02:41,600 Speaker 3: I definitely still agree with you du said running back 4059 03:02:41,640 --> 03:02:43,879 Speaker 3: and tight end, even though you seem to have three 4060 03:02:43,959 --> 03:02:46,120 Speaker 3: tight ends now on the roster. I do wonder if 4061 03:02:46,200 --> 03:02:49,120 Speaker 3: Jane Bell transitions to more of a full back h 4062 03:02:49,240 --> 03:02:52,360 Speaker 3: back type of role under Josh McDaniels, and that would 4063 03:02:52,360 --> 03:02:56,160 Speaker 3: free up another traditional tight end spot there. Last couple 4064 03:02:56,200 --> 03:02:59,080 Speaker 3: of years with McDaniels, they did carry three tight ends 4065 03:02:59,120 --> 03:03:01,240 Speaker 3: plus a full back a couple of those years, So 4066 03:03:01,520 --> 03:03:03,760 Speaker 3: you're really talking about four guys in that room. So 4067 03:03:04,160 --> 03:03:07,520 Speaker 3: maybe it's that's how they kind of give that developmental 4068 03:03:07,600 --> 03:03:09,880 Speaker 3: tight end reps even though they already have three guys 4069 03:03:10,360 --> 03:03:12,640 Speaker 3: in that room. But I think it's a conversation of just, 4070 03:03:12,840 --> 03:03:16,160 Speaker 3: you know, for biggest need, what's more like, what is 4071 03:03:16,240 --> 03:03:18,320 Speaker 3: the biggest hole in terms of if you had to 4072 03:03:18,360 --> 03:03:20,600 Speaker 3: play a game tomorrow, you know, do you feel better 4073 03:03:20,680 --> 03:03:25,080 Speaker 3: about having three or four decent receivers or average receivers, 4074 03:03:25,120 --> 03:03:28,600 Speaker 3: below average receivers versus having a below average tackle? You 4075 03:03:28,640 --> 03:03:31,600 Speaker 3: know which one are you living with more? I just 4076 03:03:31,680 --> 03:03:33,879 Speaker 3: think maybe you live with the receivers more just because 4077 03:03:33,920 --> 03:03:36,200 Speaker 3: of Drake, Like I feel like Drake Maken just make 4078 03:03:36,280 --> 03:03:39,640 Speaker 3: plays that other quarterbacks can't sometimes, so maybe you can 4079 03:03:39,680 --> 03:03:40,240 Speaker 3: get away with it. 4080 03:03:40,400 --> 03:03:40,520 Speaker 12: All. 4081 03:03:40,600 --> 03:03:42,600 Speaker 6: Right, Well, it was a good show, a good day 4082 03:03:42,680 --> 03:03:46,520 Speaker 6: here at Chillette Stadium. We will be back next week 4083 03:03:47,320 --> 03:03:49,520 Speaker 6: with more of this and who knows what will happen 4084 03:03:49,600 --> 03:03:50,400 Speaker 6: between now and then. 4085 03:03:50,879 --> 03:03:51,320 Speaker 5: You never know. 4086 03:03:51,480 --> 03:03:53,320 Speaker 6: Stay tuned, all right, We'll see you next Tuesday. 4087 03:03:53,920 --> 03:03:57,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, Google Play, 4088 03:03:57,800 --> 03:04:00,800 Speaker 1: and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, Please rate 4089 03:04:00,920 --> 03:04:04,000 Speaker 1: and review us. 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