1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker's vacation continues. We've got Chris Brown in to 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: fill in today on the show. Coming up today, which 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: of the rookie quarterbacks, the first rounders, is going to 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: be the first to start his team's games. We'll talk 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: about that today with you. We'll talk about it also 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: with the reporters from some of the various cities, including 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: Nister Aparicio from Baltimore, w NST Radio, is Lamar Jackson, 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: the guy who'll start first? What about the Jets, Sam Darneld. 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: We'll talk with Eric Allen to the New York Jets 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: dot Com. And Darren Rman of the Arizona Cardinals joins 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: us at two o'clock to see whether maybe it's Josh 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Rosen who starts first. All of that coming up today 13 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: on the show. One Bills Live starts right now. Oh time, 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker En touchdown, touchdown time. Welcome to the show. 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bills Live. John Murphy and Orchard Park, 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: where you are just next door to New Ara Field, 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: the home of the Buffalo Bills, and we're here in 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: the One Bills in the One Buffalo Studio. I should say, 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: ready to do three hours of bills and NFL Talk 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: with you. Welcome to the show. Welcome to Chris Brown. Chris, 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: good to have you with us here today. Can I 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: get that for you? Let me plug me in there 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: over there, logistical issue over here. This is what happens. 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Chris is doing the work of three men today, including 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: the co hosting in our show. You co hosted yesterday show. 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: Not bad when you wind up with a Hall of 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: Famer Thurman Thomas is a call that was a good 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: wingman to have, no question about it. And you know, 29 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: Thurman is good because you can just bounce off all 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: of those player related things, yeah, and get his perspective 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: because we were talking about a host of things yesterday. 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: And it's funny because we were talking about World Cup 33 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: with Elston Schmidt and read Ferguson yesterday, but we also 34 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: asked them about our topic of the day, which was 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: how the culture of the team just got rooted and 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: embedded in the locker room so quickly in the span 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: of a calendar year, when we've seen so many other 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: coaches before them fail in doing that. And they were 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: talking as they're talking and telling us why the culture 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: got you know, settled so quickly in the locker room. 41 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: Colton's talking about how it's fun to go to work 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: with the other guys in our locker room because we 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: know who they are, we know what they're about when 44 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: we remember all of those spill your guts sessions that 45 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: they had last summer at training camp. And Thurman's looking 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: at me as Colton saying it, and he said that 47 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: he is huge, like he's not. He's trying not to 48 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: interrupt Colton, but he's like whispering over to me. He 49 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: goes on the radio. Yes, I think I think he 50 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: was aware of it, but he didn't care. He was 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: gonna say it anyway. And the other funny thing was 52 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: the ac in here didn't kick on yesterday until about 53 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: twelve fifteen, and Thurman had a long sleeve like pull 54 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: over on and he was sweating bullets, so we got 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: him a towel. But it was funny because Patty's watching 56 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: the show at home and she's tweeting at our one 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: Bill's live account, going, somebody get my husband a towel, 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: and we tweeted back, we're on it, we're working on 59 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: It was brutally and then we heard a kick on 60 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: during the first segment yesterday so it was there. You know, 61 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: there were a couple of twists in turns to yesterday show, 62 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: but it was good. Oh man, hey, I did listen 63 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: to the show. I spent yesterday at a golf tournament 64 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: up in Youngstown, New York, up in Niagara County. It's 65 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: the Empowered Golf Tournament, the Matthew J. Murphy Memorial, named 66 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 1: after my dad, and I was an honorary co chair 67 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: and I've been MC and co chair for several years. 68 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: But driving up there, I tried to get there on 69 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: time and just barely made it with the obligatory you know, 70 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: forty five minute traffic delay on Grand Island for whatever reason, 71 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but what that meant was, instead 72 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: of getting there at eleven thirty one, I wanted to 73 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: get there. I got there like quarter after twelve. So 74 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: I listened to the first fifteen minutes of One Bill's 75 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: Live and heard you guys talking with the guys about 76 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: World Cup soccer, and it was yeah, and this is 77 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: why this is important. I actually took the advice of 78 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: last Friday's co host job Pascalia and spent a little time, 79 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: not a lot, but a little time watching World Cup 80 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: soccer over the weekend. Chris, I'm proud. I know you 81 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: would be. I knew you would. Why did one talk 82 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: with Joe convince you after I've been leaning on you 83 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: for the last two or three years. I'd think it 84 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: out that it's not that I don't listen to you, 85 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: but I see how into it you are. And then 86 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: Joe just sort of he was he had a light 87 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: touch last Friday. He said, just try it, just check 88 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: check out a light Here's the thing, because So I 89 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: watched yesterday. I got up, I was riding to the 90 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: stationary bike in the morning. I'm watching Sweden and UM Korea. Right, 91 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: terrible game. Yeah, it was awful. And it was a 92 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: one of nothing game, which is fine, the one goal 93 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: by virtue of a penalty kick, which is fine. I 94 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: know they're playing by the rules, but they're just so 95 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: many stoppages in play and so much, you know, so 96 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: many penalties and and I'm listening with the sounddown because 97 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: I and so I needed an explanation, couldn't get it. 98 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: And I just thought, this is I know, Look, I 99 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: appreciate the game. There'll be better games in that. There 100 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: have been better games in that already, right, I just 101 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: thought I don't know about this. It's okay, maybe I'll 102 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: keep I don't know if I'll devote much time to it. 103 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: Did you hear about that game Korea? And I watched it? Yeah, 104 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: what do you think? Wasn't it awful? It was? It 105 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: was not one of the better games played so far. 106 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: But if you watched Spain and Portugal last I think 107 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: that was three to three. That was Ronaldo is in 108 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: the game. He has a hat trick. I mean he 109 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: had a PK so it wasn't a natural hat trick, 110 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: but I mean that was end to end. Even the 111 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: game this morning between Japan and Columbia. Columbia is in 112 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: a big hole early because one of their players gets 113 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: a red card for an intentional handball in their own box. 114 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: He gets thrown out of the game three minutes in, 115 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: so Columbia has to play eighty seven minutes a man down, 116 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: which on a soccer field is very hard to do. 117 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: You know, you can do it for a while, but 118 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: then you wear down because you got to cover so 119 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: much more ground on the field with one one man 120 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: fewer on the field. But it was end to end 121 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: and Columbia was trying to get a goal to even 122 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: it up after Japan went up to one, so end 123 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: to end entertaining action. Senegal's playing Poland right now, and 124 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: ton of athletes on Senegal's team, and Poland's just trying 125 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: to keep up with them even though they're the higher 126 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: ranked team. So there's all these dynamics that come into 127 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: play because you're on a world stage, You're getting athletes 128 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: from all over the world. It's it's the Olympics, but 129 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: it's one sport. I mean, that really is what it is. 130 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: And I'll say the biggest difference with the fan bases, 131 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: Murph is there is no adversarial nature between fan bases 132 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 1: because you literally have fan bases crammed up against one another, 133 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: one section apart. But it's like a world party. And 134 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: I experienced this when I went to the World Cup 135 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: in ninety four. The last time I was here in 136 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: the US, I was fresh out of college and I 137 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: went with my high school buddy to a game at 138 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: Giant Stadium. It was Norway in Ireland, and you got 139 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: the Norwegian fans over here and Ireland fans, you know, 140 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: Irish fans over here, and it's not like they're two 141 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: adversarial nations or anything, but They're like arm and arm 142 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: rocking and singing the same songs. It was just it 143 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: was like a party kind of atmosphere where everybody's just 144 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: happy to be there, which is completely counter to what 145 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: we see in the NFL, you know, between Dolphins and 146 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: Bills fans, Raider fans and anybody else. You know. It's 147 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: just I just was. I was not taken aback by it, 148 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: but it was just a completely different perspective on seeing 149 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: two different fans in the same stadium, completely coexisting, just 150 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: happy to be there watching a World Cup game. All right, 151 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: two things, and let me start with the first thing. First, Um, 152 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: I will watch more. And I know why you you 153 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: mentioned you know your influence on me and maybe Joe's. 154 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't it was Joe Friday. But also somebody tweeted 155 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: in that I was being my typical clothes minded get 156 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: off my lawn self. You know, I am not. I 157 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: am as open That is not a light touch, right, 158 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: I am. I am as open minded as anybody I 159 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: know I am. I love new ideas, I love to 160 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: listen to new ideas. I also know what I like. 161 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: I also know what I appreciate, and I'm going to 162 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: give a World Cup soccer a chance. But I'm you 163 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: think I'm close minded. No, you've known me for twenty years. 164 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: I know, Yeah, I know you're pretty liberal, all right, Yes, 165 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: I'll say it, Yes I am. I am somewhat liberal 166 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: about a variety of things. Yeah, including seeing what somebody 167 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: else appreciation. Given it a chance, That's what I gonna 168 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: do with World Cup soccer. So Chris helped me. I'm 169 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna sit down for three hours 170 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: at a time, and maybe I will. Look, I've got 171 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: some time off coming up. You know that. How long 172 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: does the world up going? How much longer it goes 173 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: a month? So i'll have to much till July fourth weekend. Oh, 174 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: I've got plenty of time to watch. I can't see 175 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: myself blocking out like I did with NBA playoffs or 176 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: certainly with NFL stuff, blocking out three hour chunks of 177 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: time to watch World Cup soccer. But if it's on 178 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: and I again have it out in the background. So 179 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: some help me understand what I should look for, how 180 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: we should watch, what I should appreciate, and I need 181 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: one specific explanation. How do they do substitutions? I didn't 182 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: get that yet. You only can make three substitutions in 183 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: a game. Okay, there's only three all out, And the 184 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: analytics of soccer, which have been going on for far 185 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: longer than anything the NFL has ever seen, they've been 186 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: doing it since probably two thousand and six or seven. 187 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: Like heavy analytics says, the best time to substitute players 188 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: to get the most bang for your buck with a 189 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: fresh set of legs is at the fifty eighth minute, 190 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: the seventy second minute, and then the last somewhere in 191 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: the last ten minutes of the game. And you'll see 192 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: teams routinely make that first substitution around the fifty eighth 193 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: minute yesterday, So they adhered. Teams that adhere to those 194 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: analytics will do that, you know, barring an injury where 195 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: you have to sub somebody earlier. But it's very strategic 196 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: because you can't just sub people willy nilly, you know, 197 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: like you can in youth soccer um where you're trying 198 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: to get kids on the field to play and that 199 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: kind of thing. And so, yeah, professional level is three 200 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: subs a game. But you're asking what to look for. Yeah, 201 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: I would say it again. Keep in mind, I probably 202 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: will not watch one full game start to finish, but 203 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: I will, you know, if there's nothing on TV. Now, 204 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: by the way, there's nothing on TV, So how should 205 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: I watch it? Well, well, there's a host of different 206 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: tactics that go into games. You know, if a team 207 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: is clearly the more inferior team, they may take a 208 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: defensive posture, which means they'll put a lot of players 209 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: behind the ball to defend and play a counterattack style. Okay, 210 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: I think the best way to translate it in a 211 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: sport that you can understand is kind of like hockey. 212 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: You know, you might take a more defensive posture like 213 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: the New Jersey Devils and you know, neutral zone trap 214 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: kind of thing, and then try to play counterattack when 215 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: you win the ball back. The more skilled teams are 216 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: going to rely more on creativity possession time. Possession time 217 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: is what's been invoked for the last eight to ten 218 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: years because the more time you have the ball the 219 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: opponent doesn't, you should technically have more scoring chances as 220 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: a result. I guess it kind of applies somewhat to 221 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: time of possession in football American football, and so these 222 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: are the thing like who's the better passing team, who 223 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: can retain possession longer, who's carrying the play, who's running 224 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: and chasing the other team for most of the time. 225 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: Then it comes down to a certain bit of luck. 226 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: You know who's going to get a bounce in front 227 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: of the net, get a deflection. I mean Senegal today, 228 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: they take a shot, it's blocked by a defender, the 229 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: goalkeepers lean in one way, the ball goes in the 230 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: other side of the net. The Senegal's got a one 231 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: nothing lean. A two nothing lead is usually safe in 232 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: most cases in World Cup soccer, unless you're playing a 233 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: very strong offensive team. But specific things to look for him, 234 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: or if I think what I want to do with 235 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: you is do what I did with Thurman yesterday, because 236 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: Sermon doesn't know from a hole in his head, and 237 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: so what I did with him was I went on 238 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: five thirty eight dot com, which is that analytic site 239 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: that covers a range of things besides sports, and they 240 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: have a great thing, and I'm gonna run it through, 241 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: run it with you through the break, because I think 242 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: what you need is a rooting interest. You need a 243 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: team to root for. So we're gonna go through seven 244 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: questions that determine your preferences, and this will select a 245 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: team for you. That's appropriate. We could either do it 246 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: now on the air or during the break. We'll do 247 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: it during the break and we'll get you a team 248 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: to root for. Because Thurman got England yesterday and England 249 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: was playing yesterday, which even helped. So as soon as 250 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: he got off the air, he said, I'm going home 251 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: to watch the second half, so Thurman so, so it's 252 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: a one one game. In the second half, England scores 253 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: with three minutes left. Harry Kane, who's a player he 254 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: identified on the roster. He's like, okay, I'm gonna I'm 255 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: gonna root for this guy. He's the goal score. I said, yeah, 256 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: he's gonna score the goals for this team. This you 257 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: know in the world. So sure enough, Harry Kane scores 258 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: in the eighty seventh minute. England erupts Thurman's tweeting on 259 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: his account, Harry Kane triple xplament Asian point go England. 260 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: You know you world cash tag World Cup. So I 261 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: got him hooked. He's hooked now like that they would 262 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: need a rooting interest. That that's what you need. Who 263 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: should I root for? Who do you root for? By 264 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: the way, in the World Cup, Well, it's usually right, 265 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of English players on the national 266 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: team that play for that club, so I'm kind of 267 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: keeping an eye on them. Um. I've I've got France 268 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: in our office pool, so yeah, yeah, you got the 269 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: I have the whole group, but France is kind of 270 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: the favorite in the group that I have a group. See. Um, 271 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: I usually root for Italy just from heritage stuff, but 272 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: they're not in it. They're not in the Cup World 273 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: Cup this year for the first time in like forty 274 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: years or something. Um, So I'm just kind of enjoying 275 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: it as a whole. I do like the underdog sometimes 276 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: and rooting for them, um, But I don't really have 277 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: a true rooting interest here, so I might lean for 278 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: England a little bit. They've had hard times in the 279 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: last twenty years in the World Cup and whatnot. But 280 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: we'll do this seven question thing. We'll get to a team, 281 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: uh to root four, and that I think will help 282 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: you a lot. Because round robin play is still just underway. 283 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: They got teams playing their first game still. My last question, 284 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: is there a game today tonight? I should keep an 285 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: eye on there's a game coming up this afternoon. I 286 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: didn't look at the stage. I can check because we 287 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: got yeah, I know it should start at one or 288 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: two pm. I can check. I could check Yah sports 289 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: here right now, there's the point Russia and Egypt at 290 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: two pm. One of the best goal scorers in the world, 291 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: Muhammed Salah, plays for Egypt. He plays for Liverpool in 292 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: the English Premier League and led the league in scoring 293 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: this year. He's coming off a shoulder injury, but he's 294 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: gonna have his way with Russia. It's gonna be interesting 295 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: that Russia is gonna and this is unfortunate part about 296 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: soccer too. In these World Cup tournaments, there's so much 297 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: on the line. Russia is gonna probably double team in 298 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: the whole game and hack the heck out of him. 299 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: Just chop at his legs all the time. That's what 300 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: they did to Pele way back in the sixty two 301 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: World Cup or the sixty six World Cup. They beat 302 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: him up so much they broke his leg and he 303 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: couldn't play the rest of the tournament and everybody else 304 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: got cheated as a result, because still one of the 305 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: best players. You have a World Cup app on your phone, 306 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: don't you. I don't have. I was just going to 307 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: Yahoo Sports. Um I do have a live soccer TV app, 308 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: so I know where to find him on TV at 309 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: all times. You're the guy. Now, there's a lot of 310 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: guys in the office, Murf. I mean, go back to 311 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: our office space. All three TVs have soccer on right now. 312 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy is hooked. Simon has you know, got English roots, 313 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: so he's pulling hard for England. And even Sam will 314 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: watch it. And he's from you know, he's from down 315 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: south where football is king. So okay, everybody's we got 316 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: a movement going on in the office, Murf, Come jump 317 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: on the bandwagon. I will. Are you gonna accuse me 318 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: being a bandwagon guy because I don't know. I'm just 319 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: gonna be happy that you're watching. I will watch a little, 320 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: it's okay, but I don't watch every men. It might 321 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: even not watch a full game. I don't like being 322 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: accused of being closed minded about this. And I was 323 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: last week and Joe was great like touch and I 324 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: figure you sort of gave up on me as far 325 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: as soccer. I had, Yeah, I written, I had written 326 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: you off. Well, it's great. I'm glad to be part 327 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: of the soccer conference and Chris, we're going to talk 328 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: about NFL most of the rest of the ways. That's fine, 329 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: totally fine. If you haven't. I got my fill yesterday 330 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: on your show. I've got a whole one o'clock segment. 331 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: We won't going there. Thanks for doing the show yesterday too. 332 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: So here's the show today. We want to talk. You know, 333 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: we're in the dead period now. The Bill's rookies are around. 334 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: About twenty of them are so for what they call 335 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: the Rookie Development Program, but everybody else has gone. Coaches 336 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: are scattering, if not scattered, and there's not a whole 337 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: lot going on here. But of course every I went 338 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: to this golf tournament yesterday and if one person asked 339 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: me the question, probably fifty people ask me the question. 340 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: I know what it is, who's going to start? A quarterback? Yeah? Right? So? 341 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: Or how's Josh Allen looking? No, it was who's gonna start? 342 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: And that's fine. I get that there's interest, and it's not. 343 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: The great thing is Chris in the NFL this year. 344 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: There are those four first round quarterbacks right, four Yes, 345 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: five four four, Darnald bit No. Five five, Baker Mayfield, 346 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Rosen and R Jackson five five 347 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: first round quarterbacks, and they're asking the same question everywhere. 348 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: It does not appear that any one of the five 349 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: as of yet has grabbed and they haven't have grabbed 350 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: hold of that job, right. You can say that pretty 351 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: certainly right now after mini camps have come doing it. Yeah, 352 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think some guys have kind of slotted 353 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: themselves into that number two spot, or we'll start training 354 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: camp in the number three spot, like Josh Allen will 355 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: and some guys certainly are in better situations to start 356 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: potentially week one. I think there are still a couple 357 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: of guys that are in the mix for that kind 358 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: of a fate and start right away as rookies. But 359 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: it looks like the majority of these five are going 360 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: to start at best as the backup quarterback with veterans 361 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: in front of them. And that's kind of I think 362 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people, to a certain extent, maybe expected that. 363 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: Maybe there are some others that say, well, you're draft 364 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: a guy this high, you should have him on the field. Yeah, 365 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: And a lot of people are going by the Carson 366 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: Wentz model, which is if he looks ready, put him 367 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: on the field, because now you can take advantage of 368 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: that rookie contract where you're paying your quarterback peanuts in 369 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: comparison to the likes of Aaron Rodgers and you know, 370 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: whoever else you want to name Matthew Stafford, and you 371 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: can spend your money elsewhere to fortify the team around 372 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: him while he's still on his rookie deal. I understand 373 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: the economics behind that line of thinking, but it's more 374 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: important than the guy's ready, right, than always affordable. Let's 375 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: get him on the field and have him, you know, 376 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: win games for us. But and don't you think lingering 377 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: in the background in all of these first round quarterback discussions, 378 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: Chris is I'm not going to say it's a fear, 379 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: but the consideration that, look, we don't want to throw 380 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: this guy in if he's not ready and ruin him 381 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: long term, right, That's maybe the main consideration for these teams. 382 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: Is he ready to help us win? Yes, good, we'll 383 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: play him. Is he ready to hold up, hold his 384 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: own in the NFL, not be embarrassed, and not you know, 385 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: ruin the long term prospects or his career. I think 386 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: that's a major consideration for all of these teams as well, 387 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: and it might be a bigger one for the Bills. 388 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: In light of the experience that coach McDermott went through 389 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: with Nathan Peterman last year. He was convinced that Nathan 390 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: Peterman was ready and to start a game on the road, 391 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: no less, just after the midway point of the season. 392 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: And believe me, coach McDermott thought about that decision eight 393 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: ways to Sunday, as he does with everything. He's painstaking, 394 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: lee thorough and came out saying Nathan Peterman's ready. He wasn't. 395 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: You know. It didn't go right, It went sideways, and 396 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: coach McDermott owned up to that decision. But I wonder 397 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: how much it's going to impact what the development plan 398 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: is for Josh Allen going forward, having just experienced that 399 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: last year with Peterman. It's two different players, it's two 400 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: different people, but it's an experience that you know, coach 401 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: McDermott has filed away in the memory bad It sounds 402 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: like you're saying, you anticipate coach mcdermo it would be 403 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: more more cautious this time. I think he would be 404 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: more cautious. Yes, fair to say. So. We look at 405 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: the bills with Josh Allen, and again that's a topic 406 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: on everybody's mind, and the Bills are one of what 407 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: five teams with first round quarterbacks. We kind of wanted 408 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: to go through the league a little bit today and 409 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: get a sense from you who do you think we'll 410 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: start first? Of that group, they've all had some pretty 411 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: good reports. I think most of them have had pretty 412 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: good reports from their training their OTA and mini camp experiences. 413 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: Headed a training camp at about five and a half 414 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: weeks now, and maybe that, you know, maybe things will change, 415 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: but at this point I want to get a sense 416 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: from you about that. And that is our Twitter poll question. 417 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: And we had to manufacture this one a little bit 418 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: because of because of the fact that there's five on Twitter. 419 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: Which rookie quarterback around the NFL will start first? What 420 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: do you think? You can vote on a Twitter poll? 421 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: You can give us a call. We got lines open 422 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: now eight oh three oh five fifty and toll free 423 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: from outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two 424 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: five fifty. Which rookie quarterback around the NFL will be 425 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: the first to start a game for his team? On Twitter? 426 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: Right now in the early going. With four or five 427 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: hundred votes in forty five percent of you think it'll 428 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: be Sam Darnold, of the Jets. The third pick a 429 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: nineteen percent of you think it'll be Baker Mayfield from 430 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: the Browns first overall pick eighteen percent say the Bills 431 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. And this is where we had a trouble 432 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: because there's five and not four. We only have four 433 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: spot slots in our Twitter poll, so we put Josh 434 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: Rosen and Lamar Jackson, the last two first rounders picked together. 435 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: Eighteen percent of you say it'll be one of those 436 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: two Rosen or Jackson. What do you think? Vote on Twitter? 437 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: Let us know what you think on Twitter, or preferably 438 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: give us a call at eight oh three five fifty 439 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, 440 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: Which Ricky quarterback will start first? We've got guests lined 441 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 1: up to talk about all of them, coming up at 442 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: one o'clock. Nestor Apperichio from w NST Radio in Baltimore, 443 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: close observer of the Baltimore Ravens, will join us. Coming 444 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: up at one thirty, our buddy Eric Allen, western New 445 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: York native who writes for New York Jets dot com 446 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: and covers the Jets. He'll join us to talk about 447 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold two o'clock. Darren Urban, who covers the Cardinals 448 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: for Arizona Cardinals dot com. He'll join us talk about 449 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, and at two thirty Dan Lobby from Cleveland 450 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: dot com will join us talk about Baker Mayfield. He 451 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: just wrote a post for Cleveland dot com that the 452 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: Browns are handling the quarterback the right way. That was 453 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: his take from the Browns minicamp. We want to hear 454 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: from you though, eighth three fifty and toll free one 455 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty. You know 456 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: those guys Eric Allen and Darren Urban, right, Yes, they 457 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: do what you do, right? I know ya a little 458 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: bit better than Darren, Yeah, because we just don't cross 459 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: paths as much with you know, the Arizona Cardinals being 460 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: in the NFC, met him a couple of times, and 461 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: both of those guys do good work, so be good 462 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: to talk to them. And they definitely have their ear 463 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: to the ground. And I gotta say, murf, that's gotta 464 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: be one of the most balanced poles I've seen on 465 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: the show in a while. Well, the reason I'm laughing 466 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: is a tasker and I have an ongoing a few 467 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: not a feud. We kind of we when somebody comes 468 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: out of contention, Yes about the Twitter pole. When somebody 469 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: comes up with a good Twitter pole, and if it's 470 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: lopsided one way or the other, we consider that a 471 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: bad pull. When it's even the way today's looks, we 472 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: consider that a good pull. I will say, in the 473 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: interest of fairness, to lump together Rosen and Jackson, that 474 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,239 Speaker 1: kind of throws that into you a little bit. I mean, 475 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: you got two quarterbacks for the price that won't there, Yeah, 476 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: but still still, I mean Mayfield and Allen are relatively even, yea, 477 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: with those other two who are a lump together. I 478 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: don't know. You surprise Darnold's way in the lead on Sam, 479 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: What do you think that's about. I don't know. I 480 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: don't either. Maybe they're convinced that Jets are going to 481 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: screw it up somehow, I don't know. Because a McCown 482 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: is back there. He was there last year and played 483 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: very well, and you know he's I think everybody knows 484 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: what he is now. He's a placeholder for the air apparent. 485 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater's listed as the backup right now. There's already 486 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: rumblings in New York that they're going to try to 487 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: trade him before training camp and the hope that somebody 488 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: has a quarterback injury and then needs somebody and try 489 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: to pull a move like the Eagles did a couple 490 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: of years ago with the Minnesota Vikings when they sold 491 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford to the Vikings after Bridgewater went down. Ironically enough, 492 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: so we'll have to ask Eric Allen about that to 493 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 1: see what he thinks the likelihood of that might be. 494 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta wait for the right circumstance for 495 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: that to happen. Um, But interesting that they're already they're 496 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: already looking to move on from him because they've got 497 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: McCown and Darnald and Hackenburg was up visiting the Patriots 498 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: last weekend after getting released by the Jets, and oh 499 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: yeah the Raiders too. That's right, hey, But here's and 500 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: we we Chris and I of course know the Bills 501 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: best and we should talk about that too in the 502 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: Bill's Quarterback picture. And again we'd love to talk to 503 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: you about it at eight oh three five fifteen and 504 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five 505 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: if you want to say, nineteen percent of respondense to 506 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: the Twitter pole, think Josh Allen will be the first 507 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: to start. Um, it seems about right, Chris. Uh, you know, 508 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: it seems about right eighteen percent officially on the Twitter pole. Look, 509 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't and I tell people this. I told him, 510 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: you see at the golf tournament. I don't know that 511 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Look, he wouldn't if I were. If I 512 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: were betting, if it were a horse race, I would 513 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: bet that Aj mccarrn's going to be the starter on 514 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: September ninth. My second choice would probably be Josh Allen. 515 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: My third choice would be Nathan Peterman. But I don't know. 516 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: Things can change. They go to camp in five and 517 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: a half weeks and that's exactly where it might change. 518 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: But I do think Josh Allen has a chance to 519 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: be the starter on opening day here. I'm not a 520 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: good chance, but a chance. What's your thought. I think 521 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: he's got a chance. Yes, I just know that a 522 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: lot changes when the pads go on for a lot 523 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: of different positions from mini camp to training camp. And 524 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of players over the years. I mean, 525 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: do you remember what an All Star Roscoe Parrish was 526 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: in the spring in shorts and helmets because nobody could 527 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: touch him. You can't put your hands on him. You 528 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: can't press him really effectively at the line, and he'd 529 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: be making plays all over the place. He'd be like 530 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: the leading receiver. He looked like a dynamic weapon. And 531 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: then we'd get to training camp and the volume of 532 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: plays that he would make would drop precipitously because now 533 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: dbs were allowed to be physical with him, jam him 534 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, do all sorts of things. 535 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: And then you say, huh, well, it's real football now, 536 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: and it's just not happening as often. And there are 537 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: a lot of examples of that over the years. It's 538 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: just Roscoe kind of stuck out for me because every 539 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: year he'd light it up in the spring and then 540 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: he wouldn't be as big a playmaker come, you know, 541 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: summertime in the fall. So will that happen to Josh 542 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: Allen when the real bullets are flying or the preseason 543 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: game is going on and he's facing blitz packages and 544 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: teams are crossing him up with coverages. I don't know. 545 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: That's why it's an unknown, and I think it is 546 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: a guess because you don't having not seen him before 547 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: in that type of a setting, you don't know how 548 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: he's going to respond to all of those things. He's 549 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: going to have to take him as they come and 550 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: obviously do the you know, do the best that he can. 551 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: But is there any guarantee that he's going to be 552 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: able to handle everything with a plum and move forward 553 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: every single day. It's a big if. It's a big if, 554 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: and I think that's why the coaching staff is taking 555 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: the approach that they're taking right now. Speaking of many 556 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: kids performances, ESPN dot Com reported over the weekend at 557 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: the end of at the end of the mini camp 558 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: that Nathan Peterman, who was on the roster last year, 559 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: actually the only returning quarterback on the roster from last year, 560 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman, fifth round pick in twenty seventeen, should be 561 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: considered a serious contender for the starting job in Buffalo. 562 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: I have thoughts on that, Chris. It could happen, but 563 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: I don't think it's likely to happen. I don't think 564 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: Peterman is likely to be the starter on opening day. 565 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: That's based on my observation of the man, the mini 566 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: camp and the ots that preceded it. Plus it's based 567 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: on just kind of where they're coming from. And look, 568 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 1: you mentioned Peterman to casual fans, and all they think 569 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: about is the Chargers game. That's not even in my 570 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: that happened. It's not fair either, No, that happened. I 571 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 1: saw how it happened, which is important. But when I 572 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: when I look at Nathan Peterman think about his prospect 573 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: for being a starter in this league, that game doesn't 574 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: really mean much to me. I don't know how you 575 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: feel about that and about Nathan Peterman. I think there's 576 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: one inherent advantage that Nathan Peterman has in this quarterback 577 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: competition that is being overlooked, and it's his familiarity with 578 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: the roster. And Nathan Peterman has made it a point 579 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: to do everything he can to spend as much time 580 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: with the offensive players, whether it was going over to 581 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: Saint Francis in March and running his own practices with 582 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,719 Speaker 1: receivers over there. He intends to do the same here 583 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: in the summer, albeit with Alan and with AJ mccaron both. 584 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: But I think the leadership gene in Nathan Peterman is 585 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: very strong. I think it's I think he's a superior 586 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: leader to both of those other quarterbacks right now, and 587 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: that is not something that is going to be lost 588 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: on this coaching staff for a second. I think it's 589 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: what attracted them to him in the first place as 590 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: a draft choice. And I think right now he has 591 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: the edge in that department. It's clear to me just 592 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: seeing him interact with players in the huddle, all of 593 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: that stuff, that he has a better rapport with all 594 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: of these players on the offensive side of the football. 595 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: Then mccaren because he hadn't been here is long. Then 596 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: Alan because he's still feeling his way and got enough 597 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: on his plate right now to learn alone, let alone, 598 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: let me lead these guys, and you know kind of 599 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: established relationships. Those two guys are still establishing relationships. Peterman 600 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: in large part has those relationships set already, and I 601 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: think it's made the task of leading significantly easier for him. 602 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: And I think it's put his mind at ease because 603 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: I think he knows he's got an edge in that 604 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: department and so now he can just go out and 605 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: play football. And I think it's one of the reasons 606 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: why he proved, at least in my eyes, to be 607 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: the most consistent performer in the spring from start to finish. 608 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: Did he make the most big plays, No, but he 609 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: made the most and from day from Day one to 610 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: Day two, to Day three, all the way to day 611 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: ten of OTAs and then three days of minicamp. I 612 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: listed him as my most consistent performer in the spring 613 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. See a serious contender to start 614 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: opening day. I think if that continues and AJ McCarron 615 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: or Josh Allen does not make a significant move forward 616 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: with their own play, their own leadership skills and things 617 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: of that nature, I don't think he can rule it out. Okay, 618 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: I think it's do. I want to say it's likely. 619 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I want to go that far, but 620 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: I think it's realistic. It's possible. And how and even 621 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: if we get there, Murph, you know, week one, week two, 622 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: week three, however long it goes, do we really anticipate 623 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: it going, you know, beyond mid season? You know, I 624 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: think they anticipate that Josh Allen is going to make 625 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: the PROD look. And I've said this before, Josh Allen 626 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: is the most physically gifted quarterback on this roster. It's 627 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: not even close. I mean it's not even close. It's 628 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: miles apart. I mean, he can run the read option game. 629 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: The other two cannot do that. I mean he got 630 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: into his arm yet, and the things that he can 631 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: do with his arm are unique and rare. So as 632 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: long as his football like you, follows and makes the 633 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: necessary progress, he will probably be on the field at 634 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: some point this year. But at the outset, I think 635 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of hurdles. He's got a clear to 636 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: convince this staff he's the best option in Week one, 637 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: and because of that, I think it is a possibility 638 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: that Peterman and or McCarron could start. But I think 639 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: the leadership abilities of Peterman should not be dismissed here. 640 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: I think it is a big factor in this evaluation, 641 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: and I think coach McDermott has proven how much leadership 642 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: means to him and at the most important position on 643 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: the field, that's gonna be critical. All right, So we 644 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: got that to talk about. We're going to talk about 645 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: the Bills quarterback situation and the other first round quarterback 646 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: situations around the league. Which rookie quarterback will start first 647 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: in the league. Take a stab at it, give us 648 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: a call eight oh three fifty toll free one eight 649 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty can vote on 650 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: that on our Twitter poll, and we'll read some from 651 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet coming up at a moment. This from Twitter, though, Chris, 652 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: and now I'm reevaluating my World Cup stance. Oh no, 653 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: Mike McKay tweets and Putin is a dictator with countless 654 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: terrible traits and policies. Watching the World Cup only legitimizes 655 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: his regime. Come on, now, I don't know, maybe I 656 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: won't watch the World No, Chris, gonna find me a 657 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: team to roof for in the world, right, We're gonna 658 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: do it here during the break. We'll talk about that 659 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: when we return. We want to hear from you. Lines open. 660 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: Give us a call, which rookie quarterback will start first? 661 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: Or do you have a World Cup question for Chris? 662 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: You can handle that. We're back when Chris Brown is 663 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: here all day till three o'clock. It's One Bills Live 664 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. 665 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back to this One goes Live, John Murphy, Chris 666 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: Brown is here, Steve Task your vacationing. He'll be back 667 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: next Monday, and I'll be off then for a week 668 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: and then we've got a hiatus week coming up, fourth 669 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: of July week starting July second, No show, No instigators 670 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: that week as well, but that's a week or two off. 671 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: I'll let you worry about that. So, Chris, what do 672 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: you call that program? You're trying to find me a 673 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: World Cup? So it's five thirty eight dot com. They're 674 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: the analytics site that's affiliated with ESPN. I mean they 675 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: do every ye, not just sports. But anyway, so after 676 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: the poll, which we took twice because you weren't happy 677 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: with the choice you got, you drew Serbia two times. 678 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: So really that is my team. They don't play until Friday, right, 679 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: I mean, what how did I wind up with Serbia? 680 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: What do you think they turn from? It's analytics, Murf. 681 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: I can't explain. I got Peru. If that helps you? 682 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: When I are you rooting for Peru? Sure, I'll root 683 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: for him. What the heck? They're a young team fast. 684 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't even pick out Serbiana map. Yeah, well I 685 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: can find Peru. I don't think I can find Serbiana map. 686 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: But they're my team apparently according to Serbia. And they 687 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: play Friday, not until Friday. So I mean, if the 688 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: games that are coming up, Murf, you know today is 689 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: what Tuesday? So we got Russia and Egypt, I mean 690 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: that's an okay game. You got a star in that game. 691 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 1: Portugal is a fun team to watch, so you might 692 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: want to consider them as a team. They're not a 693 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: normal World Cup team. Over the years, right, they're usually well. 694 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: They have Christiano Ronaldo, who was one of the best 695 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: scorers in history, so they've been in the last several 696 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: Uruguay is an interesting team. They have a couple of 697 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: good quality professional players on there, and they play an 698 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: exciting style. Um Denmark is kind of a clinical team. 699 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: They play on Thursday. That does not sound like fun. 700 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: Argentina with MESSI Actually, that's one of the best games 701 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: coming up Thursday, Argentina and Croatia. That will be a 702 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: very interesting team. I'll watch more game, I guess Serbia. 703 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: I mean, if if they say that should be my team, 704 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: there's something there, right, we went through it twice. I 705 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: mean it does analytics don't lie her. Huh. All right, Chris, 706 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: trying to get me a little bit hooked into a 707 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: World Cup and let me let me reiterate, Chris, if 708 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: I watch one full game, it'll be a lot. I'm 709 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: when's the championship. We're on the fourth of July. Yeah, 710 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: that's right around. Maybe I'll watch that. All right. Hey, 711 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: we're dealing with American football here today on the show 712 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: we do every day. Chris Brown is here in place 713 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: of Steve Tasker, and we want to hear from you. 714 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: The phone lines open eight oh three five fifty, toll 715 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty. The question today 716 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: is pretty simple. You got the Bills with their rocky quarter. 717 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: He got four other teams who drafted a rookie in 718 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: the first round. Which one of them gets to start first? 719 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: Do you think where does the fit look like it's 720 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: coming from? Give us a call eight oh three oh 721 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: five fifty or toll free one eight eight eight five 722 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. You can vote on that on 723 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: our Twitter poler. You can weigh in via Twitter, and 724 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: we have a couple of people who've done that already 725 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. Tiffany Daniels a frequent tweeter and 726 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: usually pretty thoughtful. Here she goes the pressure is on 727 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: in Cleveland one and thirty one over the last two years. 728 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm surprised they brought the coach back. Tyrod is limited 729 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: in what he can do in the field. I don't 730 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: see his game changing at all. They took Mayfield to 731 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: push the franchise in a positive direction. Starter by week four. 732 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: That's from Tiffany Daniels. Yeah, maybe, I mean, I have 733 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: to confess, Chris, I'm a little I guess I don't 734 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: know Hugh Jackson at all, but he has been almost 735 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 1: adamant in his support of Tyrod Taylor when they acquired 736 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: Mayfield at the end of minicamp the other day, right, 737 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he has spent solidly what are you watching 738 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: soccer now? On the show? I was trying to get 739 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: it loaded, all right, to keep you posted. You have 740 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: crossed the line nowhere. But he's been he's been adamant 741 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: about Tyrode's going to start our season. He's our number one. 742 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: I think these are the dynamics that are different in Cleveland, Murph. 743 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: The dynamics that are different are as Follows. The last 744 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: two rookie quarterbacks that they've tried to anoint the starter 745 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: have failed miserably due in large part to the fact 746 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: that they just weren't ready. And most of the reports 747 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: coming out of Cleveland, including the guy we're going to 748 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: talk to today, have basically said that while Mayfield looks 749 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: prepared on the practice field, he is nowhere near where 750 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: Tyrod is as a leader and somebody on offense that 751 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: is comfortable in his own skin in the NFL setting. 752 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: And I think after the last two years of winning 753 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: one out of sixty four or what is it, one 754 00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: out of thirty two games, I think the pensiont for 755 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson is to lean towards a veteran that is 756 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: not going to kill you. Because there were a lot 757 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: of games that Cleveland was in last year and a 758 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,959 Speaker 1: late turnover by the quarterback Kaiser in particular, in large 759 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: part last year, just absolutely crush their chances of winning 760 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: a game. So you know, I think we know the 761 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: history of NFL coaches, with a few exceptions, is conservative 762 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: by nature, and I think in an effort to push 763 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: the thing forward, he's going to lean on a veteran early. Now, 764 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: if Tyrod isn't any more successful and winning is just 765 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: as difficult, well then yeah, you've got nothing to lose 766 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: except more games. So put Mayfield on the field. Here's 767 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: what it seems like might happen in Cleveland, and we'll 768 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: talk with Dan lobby A bounces at two thirty. But 769 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 1: I mean, look, Tyrod's probably not if you just said 770 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: not going to lose you many games. Now they might 771 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: not be. They can't go winless again, right, that's ridiculous 772 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: to think that. But so they're kind of struggling along 773 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: and muddling through and picking up wins here and there 774 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: once in a while. Ty is not likely to be 775 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: the reason why they lose games, at least in terms 776 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: of turnovers. So maybe they just stay with them longer 777 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: than they should, right, And I mean it would take 778 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: if you're Cleveland and you're ten weeks in and your 779 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: record is three and seven and Tyrod has thrown you know, 780 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: in ten games, has thrown six interceptions. I mean that's 781 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: really you know, he can do less than then in 782 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: ten games. Even if you're Cleveland and you're thinking, well, 783 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: he's not the problem. We really got to win more. 784 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: Let's just keep it going. Why would you switch? Wouldn't 785 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: it take a big shift in thinking to switch from 786 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: I'll be Devil's advocate for that, because you could argue, well, 787 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: he's not the problem, but he's also not the solutions. 788 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's the conclusion that you know, the 789 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: Bills came to, which is why they decided to move 790 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: on from him. He's not necessarily the problem, but he's 791 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: not a solution for us moving this offense forward. And 792 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: I think, in large part, and I think we all 793 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: know this, Tyrod is essentially a placeholder. But it's clear 794 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: to me that based on what happened the last two 795 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: years with young players at the court back position for Cleveland, 796 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: that Hugh Jackson wants to take a step forward with 797 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: a veteran at that position. First, see how it plays, 798 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: and if if they're tread and water at least, I mean, 799 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: think about this, after going one to thirty one, if 800 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: you're three and three after six weeks, you're right now, 801 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: Tyrod's still playing, Yeah, you know what I mean. You know, 802 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: if you're one in five, that's different, right. So I 803 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: think Tyrod's job security is largely gonna hinge on how 804 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: the team is performing week over week. Speaking of job security, 805 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: and Tiffany is right down with this. The pressures on Cleveland, 806 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm surprised they brought the coach back. I can foresee 807 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,439 Speaker 1: a situation where the decision on whether to play Baker 808 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: Mayfield and to bench Tyrod Taylor there somehow gets caught 809 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: up in Hugh Jackson's future. Can't you see that where 810 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: maybe the owner and some of the you know, maybe 811 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: even John Dorsey say look it's time to look at 812 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: the rookie, and Hugh Jackson said, hey, I'm one in 813 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: thirty one. I need to win to save my job. 814 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: And they could overrule them, they could force him into 815 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: a move. Can't you see that his future is tied 816 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: into this quarterback decision? Clearly? Hugh Jackson, Yeah, I would. 817 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: I would agree with that, but quite frankly so as Dorsey's. 818 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: So you know, it all depends on when you want 819 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 1: to hit the start button on it. I wonder where 820 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: Jackson's head is at on it, Like should I be 821 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: in a hurry to get Mayfield in the game. I 822 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: haven't done too well with rookie quarterbacks to this point. Now, granted, 823 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: the roster is a lot stronger, there's a lot more 824 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: around whoever the quarterback is. But is that enough to 825 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: lift up the quarterback or is the quarterback capable of 826 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 1: lifting up the players around him? And the rookies Thus 827 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: far for the Cleveland Browns, whether it's Johnny Manziel or 828 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: Deshan Kaiser or anybody else that's gone through the revolving 829 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: door there, you know, I think you have to get 830 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: results first. I think Hugh Jackson is thinking, I just 831 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: gotta get some wins first to get a little breathing room. Yeah, 832 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: and then we'll go from there. You know, if we're 833 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: four and seven, all right, maybe Baker's playing the last 834 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: four games in a year, you know that kind of thing. 835 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: I think he feels like he's got to get some 836 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: wins first after winning one out of thirty two. Another 837 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,439 Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet on the brown situation. A couple 838 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: of people who think Baker Mayfield will be the first 839 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: rookie to start. That's our question today. B Bills Oh 840 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: five fifteen says, I'm gonna go with Baker Mayfield. The 841 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: Browns will see why we moved down from Tyrod Taylor 842 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: just a game manager who is not accurate on throws 843 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: and only stayed around long enough due to making some 844 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: plays with his legs. Baker will all throw Tyrod ak 845 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: eight Captain checkdown. Trent Edwards is captain checkdown by Tyrod. 846 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: Tyrod is captain not throwing a pick, not throwing an interception, 847 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: not going to force one into coverage. Captain conservative. Yes, 848 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: but again it's the Browns, the people. A couple of 849 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: people have tweeted in about and he's right, he or 850 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: she is right. I guess The question is the you know, 851 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: the Browns will see why we moved down from Tyrod Taylor. 852 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: The question is when do they see that and are 853 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: ready to act? Right? It's not yes, they probably know 854 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: that already. They watched Tyrode before they made the trade. 855 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: They know what Tyrode is. But when did they pull 856 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: the plug and say enough of that, let's go to this. 857 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: I wonder about the pressure at play inside the Browns franchise, 858 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: and what I mean by that is this guy was 859 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: the first pick in the draft, so the expectations are 860 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: through the roof, and you know, the owner probably wants 861 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: to get the shiny new toy on the field sooner 862 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: rather than later. And he's had to undergo the last 863 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: two years of dread, you know, winning one out of 864 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: thirty two games, as has Hugh Jackson. The guy who 865 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: hasn't experienced all that is John Dorsey. So I'm just here. 866 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: No ownership of that, no, which is not unlike you 867 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: know what Brandon Bean came into here last year. He 868 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: didn't He didn't own the seventeen year playoff drought. He 869 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: tried to understand it. Even the Pagoula. I mean, they 870 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: only got here in twenty fourteen. You know, they inherited 871 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: the playoff drought, but they weren't part of the previous 872 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: fourteen years before the last three that they've been, you know, 873 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: owning the team. So I just kind of wonder how 874 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: the pressure points are all going to work there. Dorsey 875 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,720 Speaker 1: doesn't inherit any of it, so he might be patient. 876 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: But Jimmy Haslin might be like, get Mayfield on the field. 877 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: Why the heck did we draft him number one if 878 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: we're not going to play him? And Hugh Jackson might 879 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: be like, I want to win some games first so 880 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: I can have something on my resume instead of looking 881 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: like an awful lame duck with a horrible resume if 882 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: I have to go out and find work somewhere else. 883 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: So the dynamics there, based on the team history, who's new, 884 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see who wins that 885 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: power struggle. Usually it's the owner. Rich rookie is gonna 886 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: start first in the league. Let us know what you think. 887 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: Which rookie quarterback gets to start for his team first? 888 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: Give us a call. We got lines open eighth three 889 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty 890 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: two five fifty, or you can vote on a Twitter 891 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: poll or let us don't you think? On Twitter? Chris 892 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: Brown here until three today it's One Goes Live from 893 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: One Goes Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back 894 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: to One Goes Live genre. If you here, Chris Brown here. 895 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker returns next Monday eight. You may have talked 896 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: about this with Thurman yesterday. Maybe not, Chris, I didn't 897 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: listen to the whole show. Tom Brady sat down with 898 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey Sunday. Did you see that or hear what 899 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 1: he said? I did not. He talked about he acknowledges 900 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: that he's closer to retirement as he approaches his forty 901 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: first birthday, he said, but he's still motivated to keep playing. 902 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: He said, I think about it more now than I 903 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: used to think. I'm seeing that there's definitely an endcoming, 904 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: soother rather than I didn't, I didn't see the interview, 905 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: but we talked to Mike Geese about it yesterday on 906 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 1: the show. He did at length, Okay, what do you say? Well, 907 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: he said that you know, twenty eighteens a lock, but 908 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: age forty five is not. And I said, could you 909 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: see a possibility where he's done after next year? And 910 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: he said, well, I don't think you can rule it 911 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: out after next year. I believe, he said, I believe 912 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 1: that Brady is taking this on a year by year basis. 913 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: And then Thurman and I after might cut off the phone, 914 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: we were saying, the happiest Patriots headline in Buffalo in 915 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: the history of the universe is going to be Tom 916 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: Brady retires. It is, it will be, it will be. 917 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: And then Thurman said, and every other NFL city. On 918 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: top of that, the fact that he acknowledges that he's 919 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 1: thinking about it, you know you gotta. I mean, Thurman 920 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: probably went right back to the old Marv Levy. When 921 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: you start talking about retirement, you're already was uttered. Yesterday. 922 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: We did talk about that, so you're gonna listen. Yesterday, 923 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: Thurman's like, ah, he's retired already. He is retired already. 924 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with Marv on that, 925 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,439 Speaker 1: but I think it's definitely worth considering. If you begin 926 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: to contemplate retirement, then you've already retired. I don't think 927 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 1: that's true, but I do think it shows an acknowledgement 928 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: that maybe you're slipping it a little bit, doesn't it. Well, 929 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: your focus is divided. Yeah, I think that's safe. You know, 930 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: he's thinking about and understandably so, he's thinking about his 931 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: family more and missing time as his kids grow up. 932 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't get that time back. And being 933 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback of an NFL football team is a demanding 934 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: job with a lot of long hours. And you know, 935 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: Mike was telling us yesterday that while Brady is still 936 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 1: passionate about the Monday to Saturday preparation for a game, 937 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: he also thinks about not driving his kids to, you know, 938 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: their youth sports game, not watching them at their youth 939 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: sports game because he's grinding tape at six pm on 940 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 1: a Wednesday. So you know, these are things that he 941 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 1: has kind of come around to it. It's a different 942 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: perspective I think that he has now than he had 943 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: even three or four years ago, and which is why 944 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: the conversation I think has changed the way it has so. 945 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 1: And I I posed this question to Mike yesterday which 946 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 1: was pretty interesting. I said, what about the commonly held 947 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 1: perception that if the Patriots won the Super Bowl over 948 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: the Eagles last season, that he would have retired right 949 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: then and there, and he said no. He said, Tom 950 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 1: actually answered that question when he was pretty much asked 951 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: that point blank, and he said no, I was committed 952 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: to playing next year all along. So, you know, I 953 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,439 Speaker 1: think that, as Mike said, and Mike knows that team 954 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: better than anybody, it's going to be a year by 955 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 1: year decision that he's going to be making. Was Brady's 956 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: wife on the show on Oprah with him that, I 957 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: don't know, but I don't believe something. So it sounds 958 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: like he it sounds like he and Belichick have sort 959 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: of made up, right, I mean he went to the mandatory, right, Yeah, 960 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: talk about told Oprah how much he loves Bill Belichick, right, 961 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: I think he. I think he recognizes the relationship for 962 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: what it is. It's not gonna be warm and fuzzy. 963 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: That's just not who Belichick is. But he's probably the 964 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: best head coach you can have, and if you want 965 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: to win, that's probably one of your best options. So, 966 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, don't bite the hand that feeds you kind 967 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: of thing. Right, So I think it's a professional relationship. 968 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: Is it more than that? I don't know. I don't 969 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 1: think so. Well, they put it together just in time, 970 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: right with the Patriots going to camp in about a month. Yea, 971 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about quarterbacks. Which of the rookies gets the 972 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 1: first chance to start? We want to hear from you 973 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,280 Speaker 1: on our Twitter poll. That's the question, which rookie quarterback, 974 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: first round quarterback will be the first to start a 975 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: game for his team this year? Or you can call 976 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: us up and discuss it. Eight oh three five fifty 977 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: toll free from Outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five 978 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. What about Lamar Jackson. They've got 979 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: packages in Baltimore for Lamar Jackson Already. We're gonna talk 980 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: with our buddy Nestor Appercio of WNST Radio in Baltimore 981 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: about the Ravens, Buffalo's opening day opponent, and about Lamar 982 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: jack that's coming up after the top of the hour. 983 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,479 Speaker 1: Come on back. Chris Brown is with us here today 984 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: until three. John Murphy here were the year as well. 985 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: One Dolls Lie presented by Collida Hell from One Bills 986 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 1: Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio Buffalo Bills Radio 987 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: Networks Stories up date. The update comes from one Bills Drive. 988 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: Boards Quiet after last Thursday's end of Mini camp. The 989 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: Bills off until July twenty sixth. That's when they hold 990 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: their first practice at training camp in Rochester. Twenty or 991 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: so rookies in town this week for what they call 992 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: the Rookie Development Program around the NFL. The late Dennis 993 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,479 Speaker 1: Green will be inducted into the Vikings Ring of Honor 994 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,760 Speaker 1: at halftime of Minnesota's game against the Bills on September 995 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,240 Speaker 1: twenty third in Minnesota. Green coachs the Vikings from nineteen 996 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: ninety two through two thousand and one, one hundred seventy 997 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: one games, one hundred one wins, second most victories in 998 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: franchise history. Three days away from the NHL Entry Draft, 999 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers with the number one spy. The draft is 1000 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,760 Speaker 1: this Friday in Dallas at the American Airline Center. Starts 1001 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: at seven thirty. That's when the Sabers are expected to 1002 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,240 Speaker 1: pick Rasmus Dalen of Sweden with the first overall selection. 1003 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: Rounds two through seven of the draft Saturday, starting at 1004 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,439 Speaker 1: eleven am in Dallas. Got live coverage of the draft 1005 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: from Dallas with the Instigators starting Thursday at ten am. 1006 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: They have a five hour show on Draft Day Friday 1007 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: live from Dallas ten am to three pm. Washington Capitol's 1008 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: head coach Barry Trots has tendered his resignation from the team. 1009 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: He's a free agent after leading the team to the 1010 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: first Stanley Cup in their history. Just a couple of 1011 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: weeks ago, it was believed Trots did not have a 1012 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: contract after the season. There was a two year extension 1013 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: on his contract if he won the Stanley Cup. They 1014 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 1: attempted to renegotiate an extension, but we're unable to come 1015 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,280 Speaker 1: to terms. Trot's fifty five years old. Capitals openly discussed 1016 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: getting a new contracts since they won the Cup, but 1017 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: they did not get it done. Hockey trade Mike Hoppman 1018 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 1: traded twice today, going from the Senators to the Sharks, 1019 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: then to the Panthers. Nearly a week after allegation surface 1020 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: that his fiance Harri Ottawa captain Eric Carlson's wife Online 1021 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 1: Hoppin traded twice in one day. At World Cup soccer, 1022 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: Japan beat Columbia two to one today to become the 1023 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 1: first team from Asia to be the South American country 1024 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: at the World Cup. Columbia was a quarter finalist in 1025 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 1: Brazil four years ago, and a mild upset According to 1026 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: Chris Brown Senegal Beach, Poland by a score of two 1027 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: to one. That is the final, and that is the 1028 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy and Chris Brown 1029 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: in for Team Tasker. We're here until three o'clock this afternoon. 1030 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 1: Our Twitter poll today deals with the rookie quarterbacks and 1031 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: which one do you think as the best chance? Who 1032 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: do you think will be the best one to the 1033 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: first one to start a game for his team. In Baltimore, 1034 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,280 Speaker 1: they're pretty excited about what they've seen from Lamar Jackson, 1035 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: who ran the final minicamp practice last week. Joining us 1036 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: on the Subway Fresh Take hot Line. A man who's 1037 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: got his finger on the pulse of the Baltimore Ravens. 1038 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 1: He's from w NST Radio in Baltimore. Happy to have 1039 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: our buddy Nestor Apparischio on the line. Nestor, it's John 1040 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 1: Murphy and Chris Brown here in Buffalo. Thanks for being 1041 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: on with us here today. Always I should be on 1042 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: with our friends if they're got a lot of friends 1043 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: up in Buffalo. And I can't imagine that you guys 1044 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: aren't concerned where you know? I said, why's Mrs calling me? 1045 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, we opened the season, so you 1046 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 1: know you're doing your recon here early in June, right, Yeah, 1047 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: that's part of it. And the rookie quarterbacks because it 1048 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: occurs to us up here nest than almost each one 1049 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,720 Speaker 1: of the five teams that picked the first round quarterback 1050 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: is in the same boat. They'd like to see their 1051 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: guy be the starter, but they're not rushing it. Is 1052 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: that the situation in Baltimore, do you think you know, 1053 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 1: I don't know where we are with Flacco. I mean 1054 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: certainly there's you know, the signals that the team would 1055 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: deal with two and then next year's two to move 1056 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 1: up and take a quarterback when they're paying dro Flacco 1057 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: twenty five million this year and then next year certainly 1058 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 1: has lighted a fire where it needs to be lit. 1059 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: Bringing in a new quarterback coach, James Urban as well 1060 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: over from US Cincinnati that you know they've changed the 1061 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 1: room there. Ryan Mallett has gone, They brought in RG 1062 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 1: three before the draft, and d Lamar Jackson gets added 1063 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 1: into that. Look, I'll be shocked if anyone other than 1064 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: Flacco takes snaps this year. I mean I'll go out. 1065 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm a Flacco guy. I am the Flacco apologist. I 1066 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 1: like guys that have winned the Super Bowl, John Yea, 1067 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: I like Super Bowl MVP, and I have not liked 1068 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: the other ingredients that they've mixed into the think from 1069 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: the wide receiver position, what they've had, from the running game, 1070 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,760 Speaker 1: what's going on on the offensive line. Were three years 1071 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: in a row now from a Collecchio assimilator to Rick 1072 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 1: Wagon or to now this year to Ryan Jensen. They've 1073 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: lost ten million dollars literally Lineman to other organizations that 1074 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: have had to go back to the draft and sort 1075 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: of rebuild the offensive line. They of course used their 1076 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 1: first round pick, a lottery pick, really o. Ronnie Stanley 1077 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 1: had an ore dame a couple of years ago after 1078 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: the gas mass video surfaced on the kid from Mississippi. 1079 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 1: But you know, offensively, they Joe's gonna get blamed for 1080 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 1: a lot of it. Joe certainly was injured, you know, 1081 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: in a big way in two thousand and fifteen, was 1082 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 1: getting back to being himself in sixteen. Last year he 1083 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 1: had the back problem. I understand what they did and 1084 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 1: why they did it, but you know, this is a 1085 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 1: this is a kid that's been passed over by every 1086 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: other team in the league that needed a quarterback. I 1087 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,280 Speaker 1: don't know that anyone looked at him and said he's 1088 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: my franchise quarterback. Nor did the Ravens passed on him 1089 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 1: three different times in trading back. Literally, the Ravens sat 1090 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 1: on the clock in sixteen, twenty two or twenty five 1091 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: and never took him. It took a tight end instead. 1092 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 1: So it's not like he was necessarily the apple of 1093 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 1: their eye. But I think they'd like his athleticism. I 1094 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: think they liked his ability to play within the offense 1095 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: before he could be a quarterback. And I think maybe 1096 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 1: three or four years from now they think maybe he 1097 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 1: could quarterback in the league. But I don't think anybody 1098 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: thinks Lamar Jackson's a short thing. If they did, he 1099 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,840 Speaker 1: would have been taken a lot earlier. So Nestor knowing 1100 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 1: and they're seeing this is a popular perception, And you 1101 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: can tell me whether this is accurate or not, at 1102 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 1: least as it pertains to Baltimore. But knowing that Lamar 1103 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: Jackson almost demands a different kind of offensive approach based 1104 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: on his skill set, would the change from Flacco that 1105 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: you would have to make in the offense to a 1106 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 1: person like Lamar Jackson impact this so called timetable or 1107 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,919 Speaker 1: developmental plan for Jackson where they say, well, it's fine 1108 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: if he's the backup and Joe plays the whole year, 1109 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: because if we want to turn the page in twenty 1110 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: nineteen and go with Lamar at that time, we're gonna 1111 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 1: have to undertake an offensive philosophy change. Anyway, that's not 1112 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,359 Speaker 1: something we want to do. During the twenty eighteen season. Well, 1113 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,319 Speaker 1: as you guys know, every coach you've ever met has 1114 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 1: been hate the new rules and laws in the NFL 1115 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 1: about off season and about you know, how much they 1116 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: can work with the younger players specifically, and the quarterback 1117 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: things the worst, right because once the season begins, you're 1118 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 1: getting zero reps. I mean, you know, the Ravens will 1119 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: be preparing for the Buffalo Bills beginning Labor Day and 1120 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 1: then after that running scout team or developing some quarterback 1121 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: that's not going to play this week. It's never in 1122 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: the mind of the offense coordinator or the head coach 1123 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 1: or the offense itself. So I you know, I do 1124 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: have to question how much you room a backup quarterback 1125 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,319 Speaker 1: if he's not getting the reps terre in the week 1126 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: and he's not getting on the field. All that being said, 1127 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: that's what the off season's about, and that's why they're 1128 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: They let him run practice last Thursday on their last 1129 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: day of mandatories, to see what he could do. And 1130 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, look, he's got a lightning arm, He's clearly 1131 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: got lightning legs. He's coming from playing at a very 1132 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: high level in the ACC. But I don't know how 1133 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 1: that translates into the National Football League and a guy 1134 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: like Flacco that's done an under center and read defenses 1135 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 1: for a decade. All that looks good out against tackling dummies, 1136 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: I don't know that it looks good against the Buffalo 1137 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: Bill's defense Week one. I think even the best quarterbacks 1138 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 1: coming out of college are in some sense of overwhelm. 1139 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 1: But I think DeShawn Watson, you know, I think what 1140 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: happened down in Dallas two years ago with Dak Prescott 1141 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,800 Speaker 1: leeds teams to believe, and certainly you guys got a 1142 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: lot of mileage out of Tyrod Taylor, who really never 1143 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 1: took a snap in Baltimore, you know, literally was the 1144 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 1: backup forever here and turned out to be a you know, 1145 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,359 Speaker 1: fair to middling decent Pro bowlist not quarterback the league 1146 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 1: when given an opportunity, but that was, you know, four 1147 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,800 Speaker 1: or five years of grooming involved in all of that. 1148 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: I don't think Lamar Jackson's ready to run out and 1149 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 1: run the Baltimore Ravens to a twelve and four records 1150 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,320 Speaker 1: this year. I don't know that Joe Flacco can do that. 1151 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 1: But I think they all are of the mindset that 1152 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco healthy. If he's healthy, and then he's right 1153 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: in the backs, right, and all of it's right. Joe Flacco. 1154 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 1: I saw him flinging it around last week. I mean, 1155 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,359 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco still gets off the bus with the Super 1156 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 1: Bowl ring and the biggest arm in the league and 1157 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 1: a lot of doubters now, and I understand that, and 1158 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 1: he understands that. And I think Marty morning Way, who's 1159 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: undertaking the offense to Greg Roman, have come in here 1160 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: and said, Okay, well we're gonna have a planned B 1161 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 1: offense for this kid we drafted. And they did that 1162 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 1: with Michael Vick up Untiladelphia number of years ago as well. 1163 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 1: So that's the way they're gonna play it. But I 1164 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: have no doubt that by the time we get to 1165 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 1: the third week of camp, which isn't that far off now. 1166 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 1: As you guys know, you know, the third preseason game 1167 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 1: at the end of August, it'll be Flacco running the 1168 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 1: team for a half. He'll say, Hey, this Lamar Jackson 1169 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,399 Speaker 1: is flashing good things. Any splash a bad thing. I'm 1170 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 1: sure he'll throw some bad picks. I'm sure he'll get 1171 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 1: out and run around a little bit with any running quarterback. 1172 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 1: As you know, you wanted to stand up right through 1173 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: the course of preseason. But Joe Flacco is gonna be 1174 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 1: the quarterback when the Buffalo Bills lay the Ravens in 1175 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 1: Week one without any unforeseen injury circumstanced I would say, 1176 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 1: because I don't think Joe's gonna stinking camp. I don't 1177 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: think he's gonna play enough the stinking camp. And I 1178 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: saw him play last week. He's help. He's throwing the 1179 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 1: ball around like you would expect a thirty two year 1180 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 1: old NFL quarterback to throw the ball around. On the 1181 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 1: line with Nestor Apperisho from w NST Radio when Baltimore 1182 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: covers the Ravens talking about Lamar Jackson, Joe Flac, I 1183 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 1: have a question for you, going back to your original 1184 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: statement about Flacco. What clearly Flacco has not been great 1185 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 1: for a couple of years, Nestor, But is was he 1186 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: in need of like a wake up call? You know 1187 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned something about how now you know the Ravens 1188 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 1: have his attention because they drafted Lamar Jackson. Did he 1189 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 1: need that or were there other things that play with 1190 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: maybe his subpar performances. Well, let's start with it. They 1191 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 1: didn't have a backup quarterback, Ryan Mallett. You know, we 1192 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 1: watched him play in the preseason last year. He's just 1193 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: not any good. He's not consistent enough. He's not gonna 1194 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: be able to get it done. And they knew that. 1195 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: So Flaco had even said two weeks three weeks before 1196 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 1: the draft, he had a little media availability and said, look, 1197 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 1: I know they're drafting a quarterback. I mean, we don't 1198 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 1: have any other quarterbacks here. And then they signed RG 1199 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 1: three when he became available, and you know, they danced 1200 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 1: around mcaulin Kaepernick last July, and obviously, if you remember, 1201 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 1: they were one of the teams that took Colin Kaepernick 1202 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: very seriously based on John Harball's relationship with his brother 1203 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 1: and his brother's relationship with Colin Kaepernick. In the Super Bowl, 1204 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: back into the Super forty seven. So I would say this, 1205 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: they knew they were drafting a quarterback. Again. If the 1206 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: Ravens were up the mindset that Lamar Jackson was a 1207 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 1: life altering franchise quarterback, they would have taken him with sixteen, 1208 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: They would have taken it with twenty two, or they 1209 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 1: would have taken him with twenty five. They took a 1210 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 1: tight end instead and passed on the number of wide receivers. 1211 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,160 Speaker 1: So I don't know that anyone really believed that, but 1212 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: I believe that when this supernatural freak athlete who is 1213 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 1: a might as an NFL quarterback became available and the 1214 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 1: owner of the team came in and said, we're gonna 1215 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 1: give up two twos and we're gonna light some fire 1216 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: under our quarterback and we're gonna have excitement around here. 1217 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 1: And people in the room believe he might be a 1218 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback or that guy down the line. Let's cash 1219 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 1: in now and let's take this kit. Let's involve him 1220 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 1: in our offense. Let's bring him in here, let's coach 1221 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: him up, and maybe he could be a weapon for 1222 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco within the framework of the offense. At some 1223 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: point this year, look at some point this year, they're 1224 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: gonna throw him the football. They're gonna put the football 1225 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,919 Speaker 1: in his hands. They're not gonna give them the keys 1226 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 1: to the offense. I mean. And I think he'll score 1227 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 1: a touchdown or three this year. I really do. And 1228 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: I think you'll see some razzle dazzle in Week one 1229 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 1: and you'll see some interesting look involving him. But I 1230 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna see him taking sixty snaps this 1231 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 1: year for the Baltimore Ravens. Would all that be instead 1232 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 1: fire under Joe Shure. I think they're concerned about Joe's health. 1233 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 1: I think when you got a six foot five semi 1234 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 1: mobile quarterback or semi immobile spathetic, now you look at it, 1235 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 1: quarterback who had a back problem, who had a knee problem, 1236 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 1: and is coming to the end of the twenty five 1237 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 1: million dollars phase, and you're gonna draft a quarterback anyway, 1238 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 1: get the best quarterback you can get. And I think 1239 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: they did, and I think it's created controversy. I think 1240 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 1: it's a lit a fire under Joe Murphy. You know, 1241 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm pretty connected out knowing goes. I had a pretty 1242 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 1: significant email or text men come to me the morning 1243 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 1: after they drafted him, because remember a lot of Ravens 1244 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: fans went to bed after twenty five, right like you're 1245 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 1: thinking that, you know, eleven o'clock, What are they gonna 1246 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 1: do when they woke up at six in the morning 1247 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: in Lamar jack and was traded back. You know, I 1248 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 1: did a head nod on pick twenty nine and woke 1249 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 1: up and I was awake till three in the morning 1250 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: because it was the biggest story that night. But I 1251 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 1: had a pretty significant guy send me a note saying 1252 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 1: it's an experiment and it will light a fight or 1253 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: under Joe. I don't think anyone believes this, that Lamar 1254 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 1: Jackson's coming into your right away and being that guy. 1255 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Nor did anybody knowing s Mills believe that. But I think, 1256 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, the media got ahead of it a little bit, 1257 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 1: certainly the Flacco Lamar Jackson and how different silent quarterbacks 1258 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 1: they are and what this is all about. But I 1259 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 1: don't think anybody you know, when to builds a protein, 1260 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Joe throw the ball around last week. No one in 1261 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 1: the media, no one who's out on the field looked 1262 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 1: at instead. Key doesn't look like an NFL quarterback. And 1263 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody looked at Lamar Jackson and said, oh, 1264 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: well he'll be starting week three. I just no one 1265 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: smart scene it that way inside really, So, Nesto, let's 1266 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: go to the other key decision maker that makes decisions 1267 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 1: of this magnitude time and again in the NFL, and 1268 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:39,440 Speaker 1: that's money. We get to twenty nineteen, and you know, 1269 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 1: Flacco's number goes up again. I guess it goes up 1270 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,600 Speaker 1: to twenty six and a half and then twenty eight 1271 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 1: and a half in twenty twenty. How much does money 1272 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 1: creep in as a factor after twenty eighteen that could 1273 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 1: either accelerate or prompt some decision making from the front office, which, 1274 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 1: as we understand it will be a new front office 1275 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 1: or and you know, a succession plan in the front office. 1276 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how much front office is gonna change. 1277 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of those scouts were blessed and 1278 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 1: brought in by Eric all along. I mean this has 1279 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 1: been going on for five years. Eric kind of famously 1280 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: married a Baltimore girl, loves it here, family here, never 1281 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: wanted to leave. Saw his buddy like Putinus and these 1282 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 1: other guys go out to spill savage. You get you know, 1283 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 1: get pushed around and shoved out the back door in 1284 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: other places and stuck around. So I don't know that 1285 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a massive change. I don't think this 1286 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 1: was done without Eric being fully on board with what 1287 01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: it was and what it represented for the team. And 1288 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, you know, I think for this year, they're 1289 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 1: trying to win football games while they still have Terrell 1290 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 1: Suggs on the field and Eric Weddle. I mean, the 1291 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 1: team really is built to win now, I mean it 1292 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 1: really is. This isn't some I mean, they brought in 1293 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: all veteran wide receivers for Flacco instead of trying to 1294 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,880 Speaker 1: go the route of drafting a Riddley or trying to 1295 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: take a first round pick, even a kid from Maryland 1296 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 1: who they liked. But clearly they didn't like any of 1297 01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 1: the wide receivers in US. So for next year, let's 1298 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 1: see where where they fall. Let's see how Joe Flacco's 1299 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 1: year is. If Joe Flacco was twelve and four this 1300 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,880 Speaker 1: year and they're playing in the second round of the playoffs. 1301 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,919 Speaker 1: Because crab Tree is incredible, and this tight end who's 1302 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 1: twenty five years old pitch minor league baseball and the 1303 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 1: oldest rookie to enter the league this year. If he 1304 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,560 Speaker 1: goes out and catches seventy eight balls like a Todd 1305 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: he for a Dennis Pinna. You know, I don't think 1306 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 1: we'll hear a lot about Lamar Jackson. He'll just be 1307 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 1: the guy they drafted thirty second. If the team scuffles 1308 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: through a six and ten finish and Flacco is no 1309 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 1: good and we opened with the loss to you guys, 1310 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 1: and bad things happened in Lamar Jackson's playing by week thirteen, 1311 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 1: then yeah, I mean Flacco will get blushed out, they'll 1312 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 1: take the cap hit, and they'll move on. I don't 1313 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 1: have any sign that Joe Flacco is washed up. I 1314 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 1: still I still call bs on that. I'm not on 1315 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 1: that belief. And to your point, if Flacco plays so 1316 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 1: so this year, is there a team out there, like 1317 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,400 Speaker 1: in a position you guys have been in for a 1318 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 1: number of years without a quarterback. Now you have a 1319 01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: franchise guy that you've drafted. But there'll be in their 1320 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 1: team out there looking to bring Joe Flacco in if 1321 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,959 Speaker 1: he's serviceable at a serviceable number, and maybe the Ravens 1322 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 1: are ready to move on to a cheaper situation and 1323 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 1: take that twenty million dollars a cap space to do 1324 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 1: something else with it, and Nestor. One last question for 1325 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 1: you the other quarterback, RG three, big name guy. I'm 1326 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 1: not asking if he's going to start, but what role 1327 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 1: might he play and how does he look? So far? 1328 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: Through the okas a mini camp certainly has been an 1329 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: interesting compliment to Lamar Jackson, right, I mean, you know 1330 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 1: a kid that's gone through this and sort of you 1331 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 1: mentioned getting spent out by the system and by injury 1332 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 1: and by being the kind of mobile quarterback that runs 1333 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 1: around me. Remember it was the Ravens and Helon Nada 1334 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 1: who injured him, you know, in a Redskin game that 1335 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 1: season that opened the door for Kirk Cousins that never 1336 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 1: closed quite frankly. You know, RG three's on organization number 1337 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 1: three now, trying to find his way and trying to 1338 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 1: prove that he's healthy and that he can go back 1339 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 1: and do this at a high level. Again, there's only 1340 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 1: one football, but during training camp there'll be three and 1341 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see what what time these quarterbacks get. 1342 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 1: The Ravens have a fifth preseason game. They played the 1343 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 1: Cannon game this year, so everything is moved back by 1344 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 1: a week, which John like he's gonna get more football time. 1345 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 1: They had five games, so I'll be interested to see 1346 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 1: how much they give you that up. I think you'll 1347 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 1: learn a lot about how they feel about rg Reef 1348 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 1: when he's running around in the Canton game. Right, that's right, 1349 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 1: heynest Thanks for this, great to talk with you. I'm 1350 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 1: sure we'll talk again before September ninth. We appreciate it. 1351 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 1: Have a great summer, buddy, do you guys did ask 1352 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 1: you about the Stanley Cup or the Last Place, Orioles 1353 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 1: or anything football around here? All football? Yeah? Well, we 1354 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 1: talk World Cup earlier, but we've had enough of that. 1355 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,640 Speaker 1: I love the World Comes. I'm with Chris, Chris, I'm 1356 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,440 Speaker 1: with you. Good. It's a nice up step by Stegall. 1357 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:47,000 Speaker 1: Thanks Nestor Nestor Efisio from w NST Radio in Baltimore 1358 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 1: talking about Lamar Jackson. Nestor joined us on the subway 1359 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,480 Speaker 1: Freshtate Codline Subway eat Fresh. Well, he kin't you know, 1360 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 1: he said right at the outset, he's he's a Joe 1361 01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 1: Flacco guy. But on our list of the five rookies, 1362 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,000 Speaker 1: I could see something like that happening, Chris. They sour 1363 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,680 Speaker 1: early on the one, I think it would have to 1364 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 1: go completely off the tracks, and probably for at least 1365 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 1: two or three games. I think the team's got to 1366 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:19,520 Speaker 1: be like one in five, two and six somewhere in there. Yeah, 1367 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 1: but I think but Baltimore is not a knee jerk franchise, 1368 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,920 Speaker 1: and so I think it would have to be sustained struggles, 1369 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 1: particularly on the offensive side of the ball, where maybe 1370 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 1: they're scoring ten thirteen points a game and they just know, look, 1371 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 1: this is not a winning formula. We can't win football 1372 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,400 Speaker 1: games like this. And then I could see that happening. 1373 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:43,040 Speaker 1: But they're gonna have to do that somewhere near a 1374 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 1: bye week because, as I was asking Nestor, there's the 1375 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 1: added element of having to revamp how you're going to 1376 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,560 Speaker 1: call offense with Lamar Jackson as your quarterback. I mean, 1377 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 1: you're not gonna run that. Logic would say you're not 1378 01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 1: going to run the same system you ran with Flaccos 1379 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:04,080 Speaker 1: six ft five strictly pocket quarterback. And now you've got 1380 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, one of the most dynamic running quarterbacks in 1381 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 1: football right now, coming in the door in the NFL 1382 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 1: as a rookie. Even though he's not going to probably 1383 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 1: play at the start of the season. If you're gonna 1384 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 1: make that change, there's a lot of change that's also 1385 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 1: going to happen to your offensive scheme. You're gonna do 1386 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 1: that mid season. And that's why I think unless Joe 1387 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: Flacco falls completely flat on his face this year, you know, 1388 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,480 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna get the year unless they're out of 1389 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 1: it at the end and they want to get Lamar's 1390 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 1: that little experience on the field, play a couple of 1391 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,720 Speaker 1: games because they don't mean anything. Because I think next year, 1392 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 1: when the money certainly isn't right, if Flacco is averaged 1393 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 1: this year, there's somewhere around eight and eight, and they 1394 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 1: don't they're not gonna want to pay him twenty six 1395 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,800 Speaker 1: million dollars or twenty five million dollars next year, and 1396 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 1: I think they turn the page then. I think that's 1397 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 1: when the page gets turned. Now you've got a full 1398 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 1: off season to implement an offense that caters to Lamar 1399 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,640 Speaker 1: Jackson's strengths, not Joe Flacco's, and off you go. So 1400 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,360 Speaker 1: I just don't think the transition is an easy one 1401 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,400 Speaker 1: to make, even though the performance on the field may 1402 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,880 Speaker 1: tell them to do that. I think we've got to 1403 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 1: find it. Sounds like they during Mini camp anyway, they 1404 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,200 Speaker 1: got significant prectice snaps for Lamar Jack, right, I think 1405 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,679 Speaker 1: the first rounds, and probably what they want to see 1406 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:26,759 Speaker 1: is can he execute in this offense, the Flacco strength offense? 1407 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 1: Can he execute in this to a degree where if Joe, 1408 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,360 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, stinks out the joint, 1409 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 1: that we can turn to him and not have to 1410 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 1: change too much. Maybe that's what they're looking for. Because 1411 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,920 Speaker 1: he runs with the ones, twos, and threes that last 1412 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:45,360 Speaker 1: day of Mini camp. That's that's highly unusual. It's highly unusual. 1413 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 1: So I have to believe that's an evaluation attempt to say, 1414 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:54,000 Speaker 1: can he run this offense that's primarily designed for Flacco 1415 01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,400 Speaker 1: and run it effectively? So if we have to turn 1416 01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,880 Speaker 1: to him, we can. Yeah. I mean Joe's got the 1417 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,400 Speaker 1: add back too. Let's not forget that that could crop 1418 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,000 Speaker 1: up at any time, some bad hit disc gets out 1419 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 1: of alignment and he's a mess the rest of the year. 1420 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,880 Speaker 1: You can't drive your hip into a football and throw 1421 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,680 Speaker 1: and torque your torso if you got a bad back, 1422 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,479 Speaker 1: you can't do much anything with a bad back, let 1423 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,640 Speaker 1: alone play quarterback. All right, so we want to hear 1424 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 1: from you as we go through all of these five rookies. 1425 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,759 Speaker 1: We just talked with Nesta Apparico in Baltimore about Lamar Jackson. 1426 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,759 Speaker 1: Coming up at the bottom of the hour, Eric Allen, 1427 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,599 Speaker 1: who covers the Jets for New York Jets dot com, 1428 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 1: we'll talk about us about Sam Darnold. Two o'clock hour, 1429 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 1: Darren Urban who covers the Cardinals for Arizona Cardinals dot com, 1430 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,640 Speaker 1: we'll talk to us about Rosen and coming up at 1431 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 1: two thirty, we'll talk about Baker Mayfield in Cleveland with 1432 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 1: Dan Lobby of Cleveland dot com. Let's hear from you. 1433 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,600 Speaker 1: That's our Twitter pole. Which rookie quarterback will be the 1434 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,439 Speaker 1: first to start a game for his team this year? 1435 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from me on the telephone line 1436 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,000 Speaker 1: at eight oh three h five fifty or from outside 1437 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 1: Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty 1438 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 1: or on Twitter. You can vote in our Twitter pole 1439 01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 1: which rookie quarterback will start first. Forty three percent of 1440 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,880 Speaker 1: you say it'll be the the Jets Sam Darnold. As 1441 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,559 Speaker 1: Chris pointed out, that seems a little high. Twenty one 1442 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,559 Speaker 1: percent of you think it'll be the Bills Josh Allen 1443 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,240 Speaker 1: who will get a first crack at us starting job. 1444 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: Nineteen percent of you go with the entry Josh Rosen, 1445 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. We lumped him together because we don't have 1446 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,160 Speaker 1: a room for five choices. Seventeen percent of you say 1447 01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,360 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield in Cleveland will be the first rookie quarterback 1448 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,479 Speaker 1: to start first. Let's hear from you eight oh three 1449 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 1: oh five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight 1450 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,679 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty on the tweet sheet from Twitter. 1451 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,639 Speaker 1: Brian Rossignall when we ask a question which rookie quarterback 1452 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 1: will start first? He answers, good question, Thank you. Brian says, 1453 01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,479 Speaker 1: I think it depends on injury. It's a shame none 1454 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,840 Speaker 1: of them were good enough to be considered day one 1455 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 1: starters at draft time. They shared they say next year's 1456 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:49,080 Speaker 1: crop is worse. Let's go Nathan playoff Peterman. I guess 1457 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 1: that's my new name for him. I'd be happy to 1458 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,200 Speaker 1: sit Allen for a year. Well, there's a lot there. 1459 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 1: I do agree with the rossingall. The one thing that 1460 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,640 Speaker 1: we can't predict here today on June nineteenth, Chris is 1461 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,040 Speaker 1: injury right, an injury could change the either any one 1462 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 1: of these five. I would think the injury could change 1463 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,360 Speaker 1: the entire makeup of who's going to be the record. 1464 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 1: I think it's most likely to happen in Arizona with 1465 01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 1: Glass Joe down there. I mean, well, I mean Sam 1466 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:16,040 Speaker 1: Bradford's history, unfortunately for him, his injury, I mean, that's 1467 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,080 Speaker 1: largely his legacy in the NFL, doesn't matter where he's been. 1468 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 1: And I granted it's not all his fault because I 1469 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 1: mean I remember when he was playing in Saint Louis, 1470 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 1: some of those offensive lines. He was playing behind hoof 1471 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,280 Speaker 1: Wolf in a big way. But he's been injured just 1472 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 1: about everywhere he's been a couple of tweets on that topic. 1473 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 1: Danny Moss tweets in no way, Sam starts over Josh 1474 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 1: McCowen until late in the year, talking about the Jets, 1475 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,519 Speaker 1: and then he goes, I could see Rosen starting before 1476 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 1: everyone because of Bradford's likelihood of being injured. Bingo Wandering Jack, 1477 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,880 Speaker 1: same thing. We asked the question which Rickie quarterback will 1478 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 1: start first? Wandering Jack says Josh Rosen out of necessity, 1479 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 1: Bradford is made of glass. Just a matter of when. 1480 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,240 Speaker 1: Tyrod and McCown will keep Mayfield and Darnold on the 1481 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,800 Speaker 1: bench for a while. Allan is the card who could 1482 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 1: start from day one, but it is unlikely they will 1483 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,800 Speaker 1: wait till he is ready learning from Peterman's mistake. I 1484 01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:11,040 Speaker 1: think that was a point you made, right. Yeah. I 1485 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 1: think he's going to think maybe a little bit longer 1486 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,680 Speaker 1: and a little bit harder if he is approaching that 1487 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 1: kind of a decision this time around with Josh Allen, 1488 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 1: just by virtue of the experience he had and how 1489 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,759 Speaker 1: it went. I'm sure you know how coach McDermott operates. 1490 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,479 Speaker 1: Every decision he makes during the course of this past year. 1491 01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 1: You can bet dollars to donuts. He went back and 1492 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:37,479 Speaker 1: reviewed each one of them, thought about them all, thought 1493 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,599 Speaker 1: about what he might do differently. So I'm sure if 1494 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:44,000 Speaker 1: the scenario comes up this year with Josh Allen as 1495 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback in the equation, he's going to reference 1496 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 1: some of the notes that he took on the decision 1497 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,640 Speaker 1: that he made last year and what he feels he 1498 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 1: should do differently the next time around. So he's ready. 1499 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,560 Speaker 1: I think he's he's gonna have some lessons learned that 1500 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,560 Speaker 1: he is absolutely going to apply to the situation this 1501 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,040 Speaker 1: year if it comes to that. One of the more 1502 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,639 Speaker 1: interesting quotes, just a little tangential item here, Chris Okay, 1503 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 1: I believe one of the more interesting quotes, and he 1504 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,599 Speaker 1: said it a few times. Sean McDermott has this offseason 1505 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,679 Speaker 1: about last year was he admits it. He talks about 1506 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,200 Speaker 1: what He won't say what it is specifically, but he says, 1507 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:19,840 Speaker 1: I've learned from some of the stuff that went on 1508 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 1: last year, and I wonder if that's you're thinking that's 1509 01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 1: part of it. I happen to think it has maybe 1510 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,360 Speaker 1: more to do with game management type things, timeouts, that 1511 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,680 Speaker 1: sort of thing. He won't specify what it is, but 1512 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,400 Speaker 1: he has admitted a couple of times he went back 1513 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,800 Speaker 1: and looked at last year coaching decisions that were made 1514 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,640 Speaker 1: and learned from that. I don't blame him for not 1515 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,800 Speaker 1: spelling out exactly what it is. Yeah, you can look 1516 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,720 Speaker 1: at his challenges for all last year and only got 1517 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 1: one of them overturned. You know, he painstakingly reviewed those four, 1518 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,599 Speaker 1: the circumstances that surrounded them, what prompted him to throw 1519 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 1: the challenge flag. And I'm sure that he probably went 1520 01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,599 Speaker 1: through all the game film and came up with other 1521 01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,080 Speaker 1: scenarios where he's probably gonna look back and say, I 1522 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,000 Speaker 1: should have thrown a challenge flag there, you know, based 1523 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,360 Speaker 1: on the circumstances, time score, where they are on the field, 1524 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,360 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. And I think he's going to 1525 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 1: be probably a more effective play challenger next year because 1526 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,760 Speaker 1: of that, because that's he I mean, and he said 1527 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,760 Speaker 1: this too. I can't ask my players to try to 1528 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,680 Speaker 1: get better every day if I'm not trying to do 1529 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,240 Speaker 1: that myself. And so I think there's a lot of 1530 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,240 Speaker 1: self reflection introspection on his part to try to be 1531 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:35,960 Speaker 1: the best coach he can be. If you're not trying 1532 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,479 Speaker 1: to get better every day, well then what the heck 1533 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,280 Speaker 1: are you living for? Like, what are you doing right? 1534 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 1: Call on the line from Frank in Williamsville, Frank, go ahead, 1535 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 1: you're on the air with this, John. I think honestly 1536 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,479 Speaker 1: that our guy here, Alan is going to be the 1537 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,400 Speaker 1: first one to start. And I think he's going to 1538 01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,639 Speaker 1: start right from the beginning of the season. And here's 1539 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 1: what I basa that you look back to that Peterman situation. Okay, 1540 01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,160 Speaker 1: at least two of the intersections. I don't think we're 1541 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:04,280 Speaker 1: on him right. And secondarily, wasn't that the game that 1542 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 1: like Sande ran up like one hundred and fifty yards 1543 01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 1: rushing on us as well? Um, I might be mistaken there, 1544 01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,560 Speaker 1: but it wasn't like the whole game was Folcus was 1545 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,680 Speaker 1: his fault? Oh I know. Yeah. The other thing is, um, 1546 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,640 Speaker 1: is Peterman like really damage because of that game? I 1547 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,680 Speaker 1: don't think so. I well, I hear you know, so 1548 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,680 Speaker 1: I like, let's see what let's see. I think they 1549 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,640 Speaker 1: really they're invested in Allen, and I think they get 1550 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 1: the most out of them. They wanted to get in 1551 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,400 Speaker 1: there as soon as he can. Am I you that's 1552 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,519 Speaker 1: what they're gonna what they're gonna do. So if you 1553 01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,240 Speaker 1: don't mind, no, let me ask you a question. We 1554 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: will let you ask your second question. But what about 1555 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 1: I agree with you on Peterman, I said right at 1556 01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 1: the top of the show. When I think a Nathan 1557 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,479 Speaker 1: Peterman and evaluate where he is and whether he's got 1558 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,559 Speaker 1: a chance to be a starter or have a future here. 1559 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,560 Speaker 1: I don't even think really of the Chargers game. I 1560 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,720 Speaker 1: don't think that was I don't think it's I don't 1561 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:57,200 Speaker 1: think it applies to any this year evaluation in Nathan 1562 01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,599 Speaker 1: Peterman or or very little at least um one hundred 1563 01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,639 Speaker 1: and twenty yards rushing for the Chargers in that game 1564 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,840 Speaker 1: last year. But what about the and maybe you're on 1565 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,679 Speaker 1: the same tack that Chris Brown is here, what about 1566 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,280 Speaker 1: the Peterman situation you think applies to Josh Allen in 1567 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,400 Speaker 1: his uh likelihood or not to start a game for 1568 01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,720 Speaker 1: the Bills this year. I don't think. I don't think 1569 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,519 Speaker 1: that that's that's top of mine type of thing. I 1570 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,120 Speaker 1: really don't. I think that all three of them makes 1571 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,000 Speaker 1: up for Peter him and obviously he's got last year, 1572 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 1: but um aj and they got it's news for him too, right, 1573 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,639 Speaker 1: so so and not not the league, but the Bill 1574 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,200 Speaker 1: system is so and it is for Allen. We'll have 1575 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 1: to see how the preseason goes, but I think that 1576 01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:42,640 Speaker 1: they want Allen to be the guy. Okay, And did 1577 01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,559 Speaker 1: you have another point? Frank, it's one really quick question 1578 01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,960 Speaker 1: about yeah, you did the play that I played stuff, 1579 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,960 Speaker 1: And you know, um, I'm watching the US Open the 1580 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:52,439 Speaker 1: other day. I'm wondering what they're gonna say in the 1581 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,559 Speaker 1: eighteenth hole. And you've been tech the wins and I've 1582 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,920 Speaker 1: heard you know, the yes, sir, when Nicholas made a 1583 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 1: putt and then fandemonium, and I was wondering, how did 1584 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,000 Speaker 1: did Van Miller think that up before he says Vandemonius 1585 01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,160 Speaker 1: didn't just spontaneously come out of his mouth. Yeah, that's 1586 01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,560 Speaker 1: a good question. I never asked him. I based on 1587 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 1: working with Van for what seventeen years or whatever I did, 1588 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,640 Speaker 1: I would be surprised if it were anything but spontaneous, 1589 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, spur of the moment. He didn't. You know, 1590 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,840 Speaker 1: he never really had lines at He certainly had nothing 1591 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,000 Speaker 1: written down, and I never detected something was thought out 1592 01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,080 Speaker 1: and went and threw his head over and over before 1593 01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:28,639 Speaker 1: he spit it out. I think it was pretty much. 1594 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,760 Speaker 1: I think it was very much spontaneous. And it's one 1595 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,880 Speaker 1: of the many reasons I admired Van. Working with Dan, 1596 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,960 Speaker 1: I was very lucky. Well, what happened at the Open? Did? What? 1597 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,920 Speaker 1: Did did Joe Bucks say something? I didn't? I didn't 1598 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,840 Speaker 1: hear the I didn't have to sound up quite frankly, 1599 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,320 Speaker 1: when I was watching that. Well, actually he made the 1600 01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,519 Speaker 1: punt and there was nothing, There was no Joe Buck 1601 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 1: didn't say anything, Oh okay, and then he finally said 1602 01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:54,240 Speaker 1: something that was fairly you know, pedestrian. It wasn't memorable. Huh, 1603 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 1: And I just was thinking about it. Yo. Did you 1604 01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,559 Speaker 1: know somebody's gonna happen? Like the Bills are down at 1605 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,599 Speaker 1: the five yard line, it's four and five, and they're 1606 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,920 Speaker 1: gonna score to win. Are you thinking yourself? What am 1607 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,439 Speaker 1: I going to say if they score? I don't know 1608 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,920 Speaker 1: why I'm asking you. Yeah, I mean I've done that again. 1609 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't go into games with stuff written down or 1610 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,360 Speaker 1: rehearsed or practiced. But certainly you think about it in 1611 01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,320 Speaker 1: the course of the game. You would. You see a 1612 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,240 Speaker 1: big moment coming, you collect your thoughts, but I don't 1613 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,559 Speaker 1: think you specifically pick the words to use. You let 1614 01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 1: that kind of happen organically. You know the ground that 1615 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 1: you have to cover, Like if they're you know, with keepka, 1616 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,000 Speaker 1: you're probably remembering, okay, if he sinks this, Puddy not 1617 01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,599 Speaker 1: only wins this, it's back to back. It's the first 1618 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,000 Speaker 1: time since kurtis strange. So maybe your reference how many 1619 01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,479 Speaker 1: years it's been, you know, somewhere in there and then 1620 01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 1: you say you know what it means or on a 1621 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 1: you know the most difficult course. Yeah, you know all 1622 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,840 Speaker 1: of those things. You think about all those things, but 1623 01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,360 Speaker 1: then when it actually happens, you frame it up on 1624 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 1: the floor. I like it to be organic as much 1625 01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,800 Speaker 1: as possible. I really do good questions, right, Okay, one 1626 01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,320 Speaker 1: more really quick thing. Okay, on a play like that, 1627 01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,880 Speaker 1: are you watching your are you watching it live? Supernocular? 1628 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:01,840 Speaker 1: How do you how do you see the information that 1629 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,240 Speaker 1: the game's happening? And I guess people are talking in 1630 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,320 Speaker 1: your headphones too, Like how do you keep all the 1631 01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,320 Speaker 1: straight as to who's making the plays? I mean juggling 1632 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,240 Speaker 1: like ten different things, right, it's a lot of juggling. Yeah. Now, 1633 01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,760 Speaker 1: most of the time I'm watching the play, it's um, 1634 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,679 Speaker 1: you can't really watch a monitor. Um use the monitor 1635 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 1: for replays? Yeah, that's all. Plus the monitor typically is 1636 01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,960 Speaker 1: not timed up, you know, real time, so that's a problem. 1637 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,960 Speaker 1: There are a couple of NFL venues, most notably Dallas, 1638 01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:30,200 Speaker 1: where the broadcast booth is so bad and so poorly 1639 01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,080 Speaker 1: positioned that you're forced to use the giant I've only 1640 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,759 Speaker 1: done one game there. You force you use the giant 1641 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:38,080 Speaker 1: screen hanging overhead, which thankfully is real time and there's 1642 01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:43,200 Speaker 1: no delay. But um, sometimes when it's close line play 1643 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 1: or goal line stuff. I use you've done it, Chris. 1644 01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,400 Speaker 1: You use binoculars if you can, But then you know 1645 01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 1: you're always taking the chance that somebody's gonna run like 1646 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,479 Speaker 1: a play action pass and then you're in trouble. So 1647 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,200 Speaker 1: most of the time it's watching live. Thanks Frank, thanks 1648 01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,120 Speaker 1: for your call. We're gonna talk. We're talk going through 1649 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,920 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks and you want to hear your thoughts on 1650 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,679 Speaker 1: which of the five first rounders is going to start first? 1651 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,920 Speaker 1: Will it be Buffalo's Josh Allen. Frank ft Williamsville said yes, 1652 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,559 Speaker 1: will it be the Jets Sam Darnold. We're gonna talk 1653 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,000 Speaker 1: about Darnold. Next. We've got a guest coming up, Eric Allen, 1654 01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:14,880 Speaker 1: who covers the Jets from New York Jets dot Com. 1655 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,080 Speaker 1: He's a Western New York native. He's standing body to 1656 01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,240 Speaker 1: join us next. Come on back for that. Chris Brown 1657 01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,559 Speaker 1: is here until three today One Bill's Live presented by 1658 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,519 Speaker 1: Kalida Health, coming to you from One Bill's Drive. This 1659 01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Chris Brown and studio with us 1660 01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:38,400 Speaker 1: today Tomorrow Thursday, and then there's hockey all day Friday. 1661 01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,400 Speaker 1: Here it is One Bill's Live from one Bill's Drive, 1662 01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,040 Speaker 1: John Murphy and Chris Brown talking about quarterbacks. I do 1663 01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,360 Speaker 1: you have this Chris switch a cross today on the internet. 1664 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,040 Speaker 1: This comes from Pro Football Focus Mike Florio, who says, no, 1665 01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots did not have a deal in place for 1666 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:56,160 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski that was killed by Bob Kraft. Yes, they 1667 01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,720 Speaker 1: were calling teams about a potential trade as recently as 1668 01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,559 Speaker 1: three days before the draft. Albert Bersi dot Com said 1669 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 1: that Patriots talk not to the entire league, but to 1670 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:09,280 Speaker 1: quote some teams they trust, Detroit, Tennessee, Houston, and San Francisco. 1671 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:12,160 Speaker 1: About Ron, what do you think of that? I'm not 1672 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,560 Speaker 1: touching Ron? You're not touching him? Why not? I just 1673 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,280 Speaker 1: I think he's got a year. You know, if it 1674 01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:24,120 Speaker 1: was it was two thousand and fifteen, you know I'd listen, 1675 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, because of the mismatch and the you know, 1676 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,840 Speaker 1: dominant player that he can be at that position. But 1677 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,920 Speaker 1: this stage of the game, you know, the Patriots are 1678 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:38,240 Speaker 1: famous for getting out of a player contract or a 1679 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,479 Speaker 1: big name player a year too early instead of a 1680 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,000 Speaker 1: year too late. And you can run down the list. 1681 01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:48,719 Speaker 1: Ty law lawyer Malloy brew Bledsoe, Richard seymour Ty, Warren. 1682 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,320 Speaker 1: You know, all these guys, they get out a year 1683 01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:56,320 Speaker 1: early rather than a year late, and most of the 1684 01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:00,559 Speaker 1: time they get more bang for their buck as a result. 1685 01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,240 Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised they tested the waters to see 1686 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,280 Speaker 1: if there would be some level of interest. Now they 1687 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,200 Speaker 1: had to also realize that what Gronk had said at 1688 01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,800 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl was certainly going to hurt any kind 1689 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,920 Speaker 1: of interest from any standpoint, because you've got a guy 1690 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:20,120 Speaker 1: that's not even thirty yet contemplating retirement right after a 1691 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:24,479 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That's gonna put some pause and some gms 1692 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,479 Speaker 1: around the league, no matter how talented you are. So 1693 01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,679 Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me that the response was probably lukewarm 1694 01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,679 Speaker 1: at best, because I think he's I think he plays 1695 01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,200 Speaker 1: this year, and I think he's gonna go with the 1696 01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,200 Speaker 1: same approach as Brady a year a year to year. 1697 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,519 Speaker 1: You might be right, guy can make five million dollars 1698 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,920 Speaker 1: a year wrestling. You see what some of these former 1699 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,000 Speaker 1: NFL guys are making. I mean, he's not gonna make 1700 01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,360 Speaker 1: ten million a year, but you make five million, and 1701 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,840 Speaker 1: you probably put half the wear and tear on your body. Right, 1702 01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:50,840 Speaker 1: That's what we do on the show. We talk about 1703 01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,280 Speaker 1: the Bills and their AFC rivals, the Patriots and the Jets, 1704 01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,800 Speaker 1: and joining us right now on the subway fresh take 1705 01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,920 Speaker 1: Cotline is the senior reporter team insider for New York 1706 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,000 Speaker 1: Jets dot Com. Happy to have Eric Allen on the 1707 01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,040 Speaker 1: line with us. Eric is John Murphy and Chris Brown 1708 01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:05,840 Speaker 1: up here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us here today. 1709 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,040 Speaker 1: We appreciate it, gentlemen. Thanks for having me on five 1710 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:13,360 Speaker 1: million a year, so maybe I can bear manager or 1711 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,559 Speaker 1: something like yeah, but they said that's what they said. 1712 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,320 Speaker 1: That's what brock Lesner made last year, five million. By wwe, 1713 01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,920 Speaker 1: I gotta think gron could make more than that easy. 1714 01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:26,680 Speaker 1: He's bigger. Namewrecking Eric, we can't. We called to talk 1715 01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,679 Speaker 1: about quarterbacks. You've got these five teams, including the Bills 1716 01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,920 Speaker 1: and the Jets, with first round picks spent on quarterbacks, 1717 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,880 Speaker 1: and it struck us here today that every team is 1718 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,160 Speaker 1: pretty much in the same position. They liked their draft pick, 1719 01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,120 Speaker 1: they got some interesting snaff from them during the OTAs 1720 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,880 Speaker 1: in mini camp, but nobody has committed yet to their 1721 01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,760 Speaker 1: first round quarterback as a starter. And I wonder what 1722 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,599 Speaker 1: the Jets you on. Darnold is obviously their offensive coordinator, 1723 01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,160 Speaker 1: likes what he's seen and thinks down the road will 1724 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:54,720 Speaker 1: be a little bit he'll be a starter for that team. 1725 01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,719 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, Murphy. I think the Jets are very happy 1726 01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:04,000 Speaker 1: with standviously him falling to them at number three overall. 1727 01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:08,240 Speaker 1: I think when Mike mcagnan made that trade on Murder seventeenth, 1728 01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,560 Speaker 1: moving up in order to get that number three overall selection, 1729 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,720 Speaker 1: I think at that time, guys, I think a lot 1730 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,920 Speaker 1: of people thought that Cleveland Browns, we're definitely going to 1731 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,599 Speaker 1: be taking Sam Darnold's And then I would trace back 1732 01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:24,720 Speaker 1: to January with the Jets team and what was their 1733 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,639 Speaker 1: quarterback situation. None. Now you look at it now, we're 1734 01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,760 Speaker 1: about a month out from training camp, and they have 1735 01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,280 Speaker 1: a very good quarterback situation, I would say Todd Bowles. 1736 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,360 Speaker 1: I asked him about it the other day. It's by 1737 01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,240 Speaker 1: far the best he's had here in four years as 1738 01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,360 Speaker 1: a head coach of the New York Jets. Not only 1739 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:47,479 Speaker 1: did you draft Darnolds, but Josh McCown returns, a veteran 1740 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,120 Speaker 1: who had a career year last year, and Eddie Bridgewater, 1741 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,280 Speaker 1: guys who signed in the lawe season. He had a 1742 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,800 Speaker 1: strong spring. As he's looking to make that recovery from 1743 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,920 Speaker 1: the devastating the injury he suffered a couple of years ago. 1744 01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,880 Speaker 1: But with all that being said yet, top Boll said, 1745 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,560 Speaker 1: as we enter training camp, Josh McCown will be the 1746 01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:11,280 Speaker 1: starter and Teddy Bridgewater the number two, with Sam Darnold 1747 01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,200 Speaker 1: the number three. But Darnold got some ruts with the 1748 01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,040 Speaker 1: first team throughout the spring, much like Josh Allen did 1749 01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:21,400 Speaker 1: baron Buffalo. I'd say, I, you know, just reading what 1750 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,040 Speaker 1: you guys are putting out and also being out here 1751 01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,479 Speaker 1: on the practice field with the Jets, I would say 1752 01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,960 Speaker 1: Darnold probably got more action with the first team, But 1753 01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,320 Speaker 1: right now he'll enter training camp as the number three. 1754 01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,200 Speaker 1: And both said, hey, listen, we'll see what it is 1755 01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,960 Speaker 1: kind of training camp because any one of these three 1756 01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:44,200 Speaker 1: to win a job. So how realistic do you see 1757 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:49,400 Speaker 1: it for Sam Darnold kind of making that rise up 1758 01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,479 Speaker 1: the depth chart in just the span of training camp 1759 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 1: in four preseason games. Is that very realistic based on 1760 01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,760 Speaker 1: what you've seen from the other two or is it 1761 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,920 Speaker 1: an uphill clib I think it's Brownie. I think it's 1762 01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,800 Speaker 1: gonna be what we see from Darnold. I mean, if 1763 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:12,680 Speaker 1: it's close between those three, and you don't see this 1764 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,080 Speaker 1: as a large discrepancy as far as what you're seeing 1765 01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,040 Speaker 1: these guys, the help productive they are on the football field. 1766 01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,400 Speaker 1: Yet Sandarnald could start for the Jets potentially week one 1767 01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,439 Speaker 1: and when they open up Monday nights football front Line. 1768 01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,559 Speaker 1: But I mean, as we're sitting here a month out 1769 01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,680 Speaker 1: for training camp, I'd say that you would think that 1770 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:37,120 Speaker 1: the McCown who enter training camp as the number one guy, 1771 01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, he's got the advantage. But with that being said, 1772 01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,320 Speaker 1: what's going to be interesting is how is Todd Bowles 1773 01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:49,080 Speaker 1: going to and Jeremy Bates come up with the plan 1774 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,000 Speaker 1: as far as the reps are concerned, because last offseason, 1775 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,400 Speaker 1: Josh McCown didn't get a lot of work after the 1776 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,799 Speaker 1: first week the training camp or so where the Jets 1777 01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:02,920 Speaker 1: were able to give those reps to Bryce, Patty Christ 1778 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,519 Speaker 1: and Hackerbery obviously those two not in a route. Now, 1779 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,439 Speaker 1: what are the Jets going to do with their approach 1780 01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:13,400 Speaker 1: this year? Because last offseason Josh McCowen led a touchdown 1781 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,960 Speaker 1: drive and the Jets first preseason came and then he 1782 01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:20,480 Speaker 1: he didn't see action until way late in the preseason. 1783 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:25,040 Speaker 1: And what we saw with the reps concerns were concerned. 1784 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,120 Speaker 1: Is that you just saw a lot of Bryce Patty 1785 01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:31,000 Speaker 1: Christian Hackerberg during practice. So I think, listen, I think 1786 01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,600 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold's going to get a ton of action this 1787 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:38,439 Speaker 1: summer and hold an opportunity. Eric, what does Darnold do well? 1788 01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,240 Speaker 1: I've heard people ask that question even in the run 1789 01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,240 Speaker 1: up to the draft, And based on your observation of 1790 01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,840 Speaker 1: him prior to the draft and then since the draft 1791 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:48,680 Speaker 1: ot as a mini camp, what do you think his 1792 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,679 Speaker 1: strengths are? What does he do well that would perhaps 1793 01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 1: lead to him to get a prominent role in their offense. Yeah. 1794 01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,800 Speaker 1: You know what Jeremy Bates, the Jets offensive coordinator, said 1795 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:00,479 Speaker 1: about him the other day, and I like that. He said, 1796 01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,920 Speaker 1: he's very sudden, he can make plays off script and 1797 01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,920 Speaker 1: as you guys know that in the National Football League today, 1798 01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean, how many times are you going to have 1799 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,920 Speaker 1: a clean pocket? And what Darnold can do is, yes, 1800 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,640 Speaker 1: he can be accurate from inside the pocket, but he 1801 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,400 Speaker 1: is very accurate moving when he is on the move, 1802 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:24,240 Speaker 1: and he's got a good arm. And what I really 1803 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,759 Speaker 1: love about him, Murphy said, he's got a great demeanor. 1804 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,560 Speaker 1: To be in New York to play for this organization, 1805 01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:34,080 Speaker 1: you're going to be in the spotlight. And this kid, 1806 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,559 Speaker 1: I call him a kid because he just turned twenty 1807 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:40,040 Speaker 1: one years old, very steady, great demeanor. What the Jets 1808 01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,960 Speaker 1: really like about him so far as they're saying, he's 1809 01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:48,360 Speaker 1: not making the streame mistake twice, and Jeremy Bates likes 1810 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:52,360 Speaker 1: how he's handled himself as far as Hey, listen, maybe 1811 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:56,640 Speaker 1: the USC operated out of the gun predominantly, but now 1812 01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,280 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, you're going to be taking 1813 01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,320 Speaker 1: a lot of snaps under center, and also you're going 1814 01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:06,600 Speaker 1: to be taking charge of that center, that huddle. And 1815 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:10,280 Speaker 1: the Jets point what they've seen from him. His approach 1816 01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:15,120 Speaker 1: is able, his ability to retain information, and of course 1817 01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:18,080 Speaker 1: his athletic ability as well. And I gotta tell you, guys, 1818 01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:20,800 Speaker 1: he is in a great position because who would you 1819 01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:25,080 Speaker 1: rather have than Josh McCown here mentoring a young quarterback 1820 01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,719 Speaker 1: and Teddy Bridgewater has been in quite well himself. Speaking 1821 01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,879 Speaker 1: of Bridgewater, though, Eric, you know, we hear these rumblings 1822 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,080 Speaker 1: on how the Jets might be open to moving him. 1823 01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,040 Speaker 1: You know, if the right situation presents itself, someone gets 1824 01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback injury in training camp, which is kind of 1825 01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,040 Speaker 1: ironic since you know, Bridgewater himself was replaced by that 1826 01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,960 Speaker 1: very scenario with Bradford going from Philly to Minnesota. But 1827 01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:49,960 Speaker 1: do you think that Darnold has to make a certain 1828 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,720 Speaker 1: amount of progress to convince them we really don't need Bridgewater. 1829 01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,560 Speaker 1: Let's try to flip him for some assets or what 1830 01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,479 Speaker 1: do you think are the things that could precipitate such 1831 01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,920 Speaker 1: a move like that? Yeah? I think the external narrative, 1832 01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:04,960 Speaker 1: I think we jumping a hot on that a little 1833 01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:08,280 Speaker 1: bit because when I look at Bridgewater and you guys 1834 01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,639 Speaker 1: know this, he's still twenty five years old, right, it's 1835 01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,400 Speaker 1: not it's not like when you look at McCown, he's 1836 01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,120 Speaker 1: thirty nine. But when we talk about Teddy Bridgewater, I 1837 01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,880 Speaker 1: think that people are looking at him as an asset. 1838 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:24,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, certainly down the road, is he somebody a 1839 01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,920 Speaker 1: team could be calling about, No doubt about that. But 1840 01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,400 Speaker 1: what to see, what happens, what progresses the first couple 1841 01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,559 Speaker 1: of weeks of training camp, because I don't think it's 1842 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,599 Speaker 1: out of the realm of possibility either that Teddy Bridgewater 1843 01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:40,240 Speaker 1: could be your opening day starter. M what about McCown 1844 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:44,360 Speaker 1: makes him the mentor you describe for Sam Journald, What 1845 01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,040 Speaker 1: do you see practically speaking, what does that relationship look like. 1846 01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,080 Speaker 1: I think it's great because the thing about McCown is 1847 01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:54,200 Speaker 1: that he has expasibate. Last year, a three year he 1848 01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:59,839 Speaker 1: looked chet reunited with Bates because they worked together in Chacown. 1849 01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:04,240 Speaker 1: He knows this system. He is a guy who is competitive. 1850 01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,479 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong that you know Josh McConnell wants 1851 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,280 Speaker 1: to have that ball opening night in Detroit. But with 1852 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,880 Speaker 1: that being said, is he's a guy who also has 1853 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,920 Speaker 1: a great feel in that locker room. I think the 1854 01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:20,840 Speaker 1: Jets raised about their chemistry last year, and I would 1855 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:25,560 Speaker 1: point to McCown for a big reason because he's a 1856 01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,320 Speaker 1: guy that everybody in the locker room respects. He also 1857 01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,560 Speaker 1: has a great handle on the offense. And he's not 1858 01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,880 Speaker 1: a guy who's going to go to the quarterbacks room 1859 01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,960 Speaker 1: and say, hey, I'm competing against the kid. I'm not 1860 01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,479 Speaker 1: going to share the information with it. In fact, Murph 1861 01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,720 Speaker 1: after he was drafted, after Darnal was drafted, one of 1862 01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:46,479 Speaker 1: the first texts he got was from McCown and McCown said, Hey, 1863 01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,439 Speaker 1: anything I can help you with, I'm here for you, 1864 01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,080 Speaker 1: and then that's the perfect guy you want to have 1865 01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:56,479 Speaker 1: a mentor, and a guy like Arnald here last thing 1866 01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:58,599 Speaker 1: I have for you. It struck me. I think over 1867 01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,000 Speaker 1: the weekend, did I read that darn Old and our 1868 01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,400 Speaker 1: guy Josh Ellen attended the US Open together or something? 1869 01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,400 Speaker 1: Did I read that? Yeah? How about that they were 1870 01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:10,160 Speaker 1: at Shinnecock. Yeah, I guess Dustin Jarnson fans. Right. It 1871 01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:12,240 Speaker 1: struck me how close those two are. They spent the 1872 01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 1: summer together, obviously with Jordan Palmer out west. When they 1873 01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,360 Speaker 1: both get the starting for their teams here in the 1874 01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,760 Speaker 1: AFC East and when they go up against each other, 1875 01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:22,400 Speaker 1: that has potentially be a really good rivalry between two 1876 01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,840 Speaker 1: guys who obviously have clicked personally. Don't you agree? Yeah, 1877 01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:29,040 Speaker 1: I just completely agree with that. You know, I don't 1878 01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:32,080 Speaker 1: know how you guys felt about come in into the draft, 1879 01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:37,879 Speaker 1: and I don't have an opportunity to watch college football 1880 01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,800 Speaker 1: as much as the quote unquote draft Oxford. Still, but 1881 01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,880 Speaker 1: those are the two guys who I thought were the 1882 01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:49,599 Speaker 1: top quarterbacks coming out in my eyes were both Darnald 1883 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:53,639 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen. But yeah, it's fantastic because you're talking 1884 01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:56,680 Speaker 1: about the work that they did the summer together, and 1885 01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:59,920 Speaker 1: they obviously grew really close, and you know, I think 1886 01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:03,960 Speaker 1: it'd be really interesting. And you guys were talking about 1887 01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,320 Speaker 1: New England before we came on here in Rikowski. Well, Brady, 1888 01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,800 Speaker 1: at some point, guys, it's gonna happen. At some point. 1889 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:14,439 Speaker 1: He probably will retire within the next five years or so, 1890 01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:21,280 Speaker 1: and maybe these guys are the future at the ASCs. 1891 01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,760 Speaker 1: They have a tremendous amount of respect for each other. 1892 01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:28,240 Speaker 1: They seem like grounded guys, and the early reviews have 1893 01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:33,160 Speaker 1: been really good. It's going to be fantastic, fantastically interesting. 1894 01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,120 Speaker 1: I would say, the track their careers because they're going 1895 01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,720 Speaker 1: to be linked for a long time. Eric, thanks for this, 1896 01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:40,920 Speaker 1: good to talk. You have a great summer. We'll talk again. 1897 01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,840 Speaker 1: Thanks all right, So it's great catching up. Eric Allen. 1898 01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,559 Speaker 1: He is the senior reporter and insider for New York 1899 01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,759 Speaker 1: Jets dot Com, talking to us about Sam Darnold, his Ota, 1900 01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:51,640 Speaker 1: his mini camp, and what lines I had for him 1901 01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:53,880 Speaker 1: in New York. Eric joined us on the Subway Fresh 1902 01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,680 Speaker 1: Dank Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh. Chris Brown and I back 1903 01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:58,400 Speaker 1: in a moment to discuss more of this, and you're 1904 01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,719 Speaker 1: welcome to join us at eight oh three, five fifty 1905 01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,639 Speaker 1: and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two 1906 01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,320 Speaker 1: five fifty one Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on 1907 01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:16,840 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. So, yeah, five first round quarterbacks in 1908 01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:18,560 Speaker 1: this year's draft, the Bills have one of them in 1909 01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,920 Speaker 1: our question today, which of those five is going to 1910 01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:22,840 Speaker 1: be the first to start a game for his team? 1911 01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:24,960 Speaker 1: Kind of checking in with all of those teams. We 1912 01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:28,559 Speaker 1: talked this hour about the Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson 1913 01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:30,720 Speaker 1: with Nestor A Perico. Just got a phone with Eric 1914 01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,679 Speaker 1: Allen from the Jets about Darnold. Next hour, Darren Urban's 1915 01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,040 Speaker 1: gonna join us from the Arizona Cardinals talk about Josh 1916 01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,800 Speaker 1: Rosen and Dan Lobby from Cleveland dot Com to talk 1917 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,000 Speaker 1: about Baker Mayfield. What do you think? Want to hear 1918 01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:42,880 Speaker 1: you as well? Eight oh three oh five fifty and 1919 01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:47,360 Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 1920 01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:49,240 Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. Let's go to Jim 1921 01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:50,880 Speaker 1: and lake View, New York. Jim, Hello, you're on the 1922 01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,560 Speaker 1: air with Let's go ahead. Yeah, Hi, my ball. I 1923 01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,640 Speaker 1: hope that the first quarterback is starters. Josh Allen, and 1924 01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:00,639 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, if it's reasonably close, the Bills 1925 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,880 Speaker 1: should go with him. One thing, the salary cap is 1926 01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:06,360 Speaker 1: a consideration when you have a quarterback who's on a 1927 01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:10,599 Speaker 1: rookie contract. You've got those first four years where your quarterback, 1928 01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,479 Speaker 1: you're starting quarterback, takes up a very small percentage of 1929 01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:16,200 Speaker 1: your cap space, and they give the team an opportunity 1930 01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,400 Speaker 1: to really build kind of what the Rams are doing 1931 01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,120 Speaker 1: right now with Jared Goffin. But you really only have 1932 01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,720 Speaker 1: four years that that fifth option year, you know that 1933 01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:26,280 Speaker 1: contract goes way up, and then beyond that, you know 1934 01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,240 Speaker 1: he begins to eat up a lot of the cap. 1935 01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,800 Speaker 1: So any year you have him set eats into that 1936 01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:35,639 Speaker 1: great for year window. The second second reason I would 1937 01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:39,360 Speaker 1: like to see him start is that I'm sure the Bills, 1938 01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:40,800 Speaker 1: as they thought, I are going to go with this 1939 01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:45,400 Speaker 1: run first offense and the one way he's a kind 1940 01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 1: of unique quarterback that can beat the eight nine man 1941 01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,160 Speaker 1: fronts because he can make throws that other quarterbacks just 1942 01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:54,240 Speaker 1: can't can't can't make. I mean people think that, well, 1943 01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,400 Speaker 1: if they stacked line, you can throw that long bibble. No, 1944 01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,520 Speaker 1: the long bible is easy to take away. What defenses 1945 01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,840 Speaker 1: can generally give a quarterback. There's those long, deep out 1946 01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:07,840 Speaker 1: throws that you know, the cornerbacks close really quick on. 1947 01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:11,560 Speaker 1: The Most quarterbacks, especially Tyrod Taylor, wouldn't even attempt. But 1948 01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,920 Speaker 1: with his arm his unique ability to make those throws, 1949 01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:19,400 Speaker 1: he can punish a defense like many quarterbacks cannot. And 1950 01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,679 Speaker 1: if they want to stack the line, you know, I'd prefer. 1951 01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,400 Speaker 1: This is why Cam Newton works so well in the Carolina. 1952 01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:26,960 Speaker 1: They might stack behind him, but he makes those throws 1953 01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,080 Speaker 1: that really punish a defense for doing that. So the 1954 01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:35,200 Speaker 1: two reasons, salary cap and his ability to his unique 1955 01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:38,680 Speaker 1: ability to punish a defense are the reasons I think 1956 01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:42,440 Speaker 1: they should start him from day one. If the competition 1957 01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:45,519 Speaker 1: is even in the neighborhood. All right, that's well thought out, Jim. 1958 01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:49,280 Speaker 1: And you're right about the contract and the rookie contracts status. 1959 01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:52,040 Speaker 1: That is a very compelling argument for getting these guys, 1960 01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:54,160 Speaker 1: any of them, not just the Bills and Josh Allen, 1961 01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,120 Speaker 1: but any of them. That has to be a factor 1962 01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,600 Speaker 1: in your consideration. Right, you saw what Carson Wentz was 1963 01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:02,439 Speaker 1: able to do in Philadelphia. Being then NFL ready allowed 1964 01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:04,960 Speaker 1: the Eagles to go out and sign al Sean Jeffrey 1965 01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,920 Speaker 1: to a big one year deal and subsequent extension. You know, 1966 01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:10,439 Speaker 1: it allowed them to go after certain players, to fill 1967 01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:15,439 Speaker 1: certain holes, put enough talent around him. Because the rookie contract, 1968 01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:19,280 Speaker 1: you're getting your quarterback for cheap labor. And I think 1969 01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:22,320 Speaker 1: after winning the Super Bowl it only reinforced the template. 1970 01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:27,519 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the aim is going to be 1971 01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,960 Speaker 1: to bring those young quarterbacks along at a pace that 1972 01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:33,840 Speaker 1: develops them at a speed where they can get them 1973 01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,559 Speaker 1: on the field, if not by the start of year one, 1974 01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:38,599 Speaker 1: maybe by the tail end of year one, but certainly 1975 01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,120 Speaker 1: by the second year, so they can take advantage of 1976 01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:44,400 Speaker 1: the cheap labor cost at the game's most important position. 1977 01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,680 Speaker 1: All Right, which rookie quarterback will start first for his 1978 01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:51,439 Speaker 1: team the first rounders. Maybe it'll be Josh Allen. Maybe 1979 01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:54,280 Speaker 1: it'll be Josh Allen the Bills. Maybe Josh Rosen the 1980 01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:57,400 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. We're gonna talk with Darren Urban, who covers 1981 01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,599 Speaker 1: the Cardinals for Arizona Cardinals dot Com when we come 1982 01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:02,200 Speaker 1: back the next hour plus. We'll talk about Cleveland and 1983 01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,040 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield next hour as well. So stick around, give 1984 01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,280 Speaker 1: us a call, Stick around and hear what these guys 1985 01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:10,080 Speaker 1: have to say. It is One Bill's Live. Chris Brown 1986 01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,200 Speaker 1: is here for his team tasker. Coming here from One 1987 01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:21,200 Speaker 1: Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio Balo Bills Radio Network 1988 01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:26,160 Speaker 1: Stories update. It is quiet week here at One Bill's Drive. Thursday. 1989 01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:28,080 Speaker 1: Last Thursday was the end of Mini camp and now 1990 01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,680 Speaker 1: the Bills are off until July twenty sixth That's the 1991 01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,519 Speaker 1: first day of practice at Saint John Fisher College training Camp. 1992 01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:35,680 Speaker 1: There are some rookies in town, about twenty or so 1993 01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,479 Speaker 1: for what the Bills called the Rookie Development Program that 1994 01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,320 Speaker 1: lasts most of this week. Around the NFL, the late 1995 01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:43,960 Speaker 1: Dennis Green will be inducted into the Minnesota Vikings Ring 1996 01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,760 Speaker 1: of Honor or happen this fall Minnesota. It'll happen to 1997 01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:50,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota's game against the Bills at us Bank Stadium on 1998 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:53,200 Speaker 1: September twenty three. Dennis Green coach the Vikings from ninety 1999 01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,600 Speaker 1: two through two thousand and one, one one hundred and 2000 01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:59,360 Speaker 1: one games including playoffs, finished with the second most victories 2001 01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,400 Speaker 1: and Vikings franchise history. We are three days away from 2002 01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:05,479 Speaker 1: the NHL Entry Draft, sabers with a number one spot 2003 01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:08,400 Speaker 1: the draft coming up this Friday at American Airline Center. 2004 01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:10,960 Speaker 1: It starts at seven thirty pm Friday. That's when the 2005 01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:14,000 Speaker 1: Sabers expected to select Rasmus Dolling of Sweden with the 2006 01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:17,559 Speaker 1: first overall pick. Browns two through seven will be held Saturday, 2007 01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,240 Speaker 1: starting at eleven am in Dallas. Live coverage of the 2008 01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,519 Speaker 1: draft from Dallas with The Instigator starts Thursday. Their show 2009 01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,639 Speaker 1: airs from Dallas ten am Thursday, and then a five 2010 01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:29,040 Speaker 1: hour show on Draft Day Friday, live from Dallas ten 2011 01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:32,559 Speaker 1: am to three pm. Washington Capitals are in the market 2012 01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:35,800 Speaker 1: for a new head coach. Barry Trots tendered his resignation 2013 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,280 Speaker 1: from the team yesterday after leading the team to its 2014 01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,720 Speaker 1: first Stanley Cup. It's believed that Trots did not have 2015 01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:43,360 Speaker 1: a contract after this season. There was a two year 2016 01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:46,320 Speaker 1: extension that was being discussed, but Trots opted out and 2017 01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:48,439 Speaker 1: so the Caps, with their Stanley Cup are not looking 2018 01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:51,599 Speaker 1: for a head coach. Hockey trade one today. Mike Coffin 2019 01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:54,560 Speaker 1: traded twice this morning, going from the Senators to the 2020 01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:58,479 Speaker 1: Sharks to the Panthers. The trades come nearly a week 2021 01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:02,439 Speaker 1: after allegation surface that is Beyonce Harris, Ottawa captain Eric 2022 01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:06,080 Speaker 1: Carlson's wife online and at World Cup soccer. Japan beat 2023 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,920 Speaker 1: Columbia two to one today to become the first team 2024 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,360 Speaker 1: from Asia to beat the South American country at the 2025 01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:15,000 Speaker 1: World Cup. Columbia quarterfinalist in Brazil four years ago, reduced 2026 01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,640 Speaker 1: to ten men early on after a red card, and 2027 01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:20,759 Speaker 1: Senegal beat Poland two to one today. That's the update 2028 01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:23,360 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy and Chris Brown builds 2029 01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:26,120 Speaker 1: Insider from Buffalo Bills dot Com in studio with us 2030 01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:29,040 Speaker 1: and Chris is in for Steve Tasker, who returns to 2031 01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:32,599 Speaker 1: the airwaves next Monday. With us talking about quarterbacks today 2032 01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:36,160 Speaker 1: and which of the five rookie quarterbacks to anticipate will 2033 01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:39,080 Speaker 1: start first for his team. Maybe you think it's Josh Allen, 2034 01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,799 Speaker 1: Maybe you think it's somebody else. There are four other candidates, 2035 01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:43,880 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk now about the candidate in 2036 01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:46,639 Speaker 1: Arizona on the line with us the Subway fresh Day outline, 2037 01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,799 Speaker 1: a man who covers the Arizona Cardinals for Arizona Cardinals 2038 01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,120 Speaker 1: dot Com. Got Darren Urban on the line. Darren, it's 2039 01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:53,880 Speaker 1: John Murphy and Chris Brown here in Buffalo. Thank you 2040 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,759 Speaker 1: for joining us, No problem. Thanks Probably hey all along, 2041 01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:00,160 Speaker 1: it was said and many people in Buffalo believe did 2042 01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:04,320 Speaker 1: repeated it here that Josh Rosen, who wound up in Arizona, 2043 01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,960 Speaker 1: was the most NFL ready, the most pro ready quarterback 2044 01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,040 Speaker 1: in the draft. Has that played out to be the 2045 01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:14,040 Speaker 1: case from what you've seen through OTAs and mini camps there, Well, 2046 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if you're saying the most pro 2047 01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:18,880 Speaker 1: ready out of the quarterbacks, Unfortunately, I haven't had a 2048 01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,760 Speaker 1: chance to obviously see too many of the other guys, 2049 01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:26,200 Speaker 1: so I can't say comparatively where he would stand. But 2050 01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:29,479 Speaker 1: I will say that Josh Rosen looked pretty good in 2051 01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:31,960 Speaker 1: the off season. Now, again, when you're talking about the 2052 01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:35,599 Speaker 1: off season, you're talking about not very complicated defense. You're 2053 01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,960 Speaker 1: not talking about any fear of a pass rush, you're 2054 01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:42,320 Speaker 1: not talking about any pads. But the big part when 2055 01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:44,360 Speaker 1: you do get in the off season is the mental 2056 01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:47,280 Speaker 1: part of it and the accuracy part of it when 2057 01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:49,599 Speaker 1: he's throwing, especially on air. I mean, if you can't 2058 01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,760 Speaker 1: be accurate in the off season, that's a scary thing 2059 01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:57,639 Speaker 1: to me. And clearly Josh Rosen has got arm strength, 2060 01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:00,960 Speaker 1: he's got an accurate touch, and by all accounts, he's 2061 01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:03,880 Speaker 1: been very smart and picked up the system very quickly. 2062 01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:07,240 Speaker 1: So in that context, I would say that, yeah, he's 2063 01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,439 Speaker 1: in a pretty good space. You know, whether whether that 2064 01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,000 Speaker 1: means he would start ahead of Sam Bradford, assuming Sam 2065 01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:17,240 Speaker 1: Bradford's healthy, is another question entirely. But I think they're 2066 01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:19,840 Speaker 1: very happy with Josh Rosen at this point. So is 2067 01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,920 Speaker 1: Mike Glennon even a factor in this conversation here, Darren 2068 01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:27,880 Speaker 1: or is it clearly a Bradford or Rosen type thing 2069 01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:31,559 Speaker 1: with respect to who we think could be the week 2070 01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:36,240 Speaker 1: one starter. Oh? I think I think Mike Glennon tier 2071 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:39,880 Speaker 1: as a veteran backup right now. Um, you know, they 2072 01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,559 Speaker 1: they've said all along, even after Rosen got picked at 2073 01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:47,639 Speaker 1: Bradford's their starter for now, even though there's they expect 2074 01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:52,040 Speaker 1: some competition between Bradford and Rosen. But you know, Bradford's 2075 01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:53,920 Speaker 1: the guy they signed to be the starter and Rosen 2076 01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:56,879 Speaker 1: their quarterback in the future. That kind of used Glennon 2077 01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,160 Speaker 1: on the outside. You know, when they signed Mike Glennon, 2078 01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:01,240 Speaker 1: they didn't they were going to necessarily be able to 2079 01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:03,799 Speaker 1: get Josh Rose and then they needed a second quarterback 2080 01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:06,840 Speaker 1: because at that point they had no quarterbacks on the roster, 2081 01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,719 Speaker 1: so or at least none under contract for twenty eighteen, 2082 01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:14,639 Speaker 1: but right now, it gives you a nice, healthy quarterback room, 2083 01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:18,160 Speaker 1: especially knowing that Sam Bradford had some injury issues or 2084 01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,840 Speaker 1: something happens to Sam Bradford and gets hurt. Even if 2085 01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:22,600 Speaker 1: you want to turn to Josh Rosen, you still have 2086 01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:25,960 Speaker 1: a veteran available if necessary. But it's a two horse 2087 01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:29,439 Speaker 1: race basically, is what I would say. Yeah, yeah, No 2088 01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,479 Speaker 1: one's actually come out and said that, but I mean, 2089 01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:36,720 Speaker 1: it's virtually be obvious at this point, especially given the 2090 01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:38,760 Speaker 1: kind of reps that have kind of played out in 2091 01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:40,599 Speaker 1: the off season. On the line with Darren Urban, who 2092 01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:43,439 Speaker 1: covers the Arizona Cardinals or Arizona Cardinals dot Com. Darren, 2093 01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:45,600 Speaker 1: you've been around the Cards in the league for a 2094 01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:48,559 Speaker 1: while nineteen twenty years. Does it seem an all unusual 2095 01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:52,120 Speaker 1: that in a first round with five quarterbacks drafted at 2096 01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:55,000 Speaker 1: this point anyway, as we take the break before training camp, 2097 01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:57,280 Speaker 1: not one of those five is really in line to 2098 01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:59,519 Speaker 1: be the starter, the opening day starter. It seems to 2099 01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,040 Speaker 1: me like there was an eram not that long ago 2100 01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:04,439 Speaker 1: in the NFL where teams have draft a quarterback in 2101 01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:06,479 Speaker 1: the first round and say we're playing them right away. 2102 01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:09,320 Speaker 1: Right wrong. What do you what do you think of that? Well, 2103 01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a lot of things that 2104 01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:14,880 Speaker 1: have gone into that. Yeah, And it's funny. The coach 2105 01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,000 Speaker 1: that used to be here, Bruce arians, would talk about 2106 01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:19,960 Speaker 1: how he feels like the only way you could be 2107 01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:24,639 Speaker 1: a good quarterback is if you played, and I think 2108 01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:28,040 Speaker 1: something to that. But at the same time, we've obviously 2109 01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:33,519 Speaker 1: seen situations where guys do get put in bad spots, 2110 01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:37,439 Speaker 1: especially if they're playing for bad teams, if they're starting 2111 01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:41,559 Speaker 1: right away, And I do think there's value their teams 2112 01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:46,560 Speaker 1: have found value in having a caretaker quarterback. I know 2113 01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:49,960 Speaker 1: in the cardinal situation right now, Again, they signed Sam 2114 01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,760 Speaker 1: Bradford not knowing they were going to be able to 2115 01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:55,200 Speaker 1: because remember they were picking fifteenth. They can know if 2116 01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:57,640 Speaker 1: any of these quarterbacks were going to be available to 2117 01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,160 Speaker 1: them by the time they made their first rump pick. 2118 01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:03,080 Speaker 1: So when they signed Sam Bradford, they had to do 2119 01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:05,360 Speaker 1: it with at least a part of their thought process 2120 01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:07,240 Speaker 1: in mind that they were not going to be able 2121 01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:11,200 Speaker 1: to get a quarterback in the first round. So I know, 2122 01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:14,720 Speaker 1: here you're talking about a former number one pick, a 2123 01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:18,559 Speaker 1: guy that was Sam Bradford. His issues have been more 2124 01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:20,360 Speaker 1: about being able to stay healthy and be on the 2125 01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:22,439 Speaker 1: field rather than when he's honest, you know, being able 2126 01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:25,840 Speaker 1: to produce. And the current general manager, Steve Kim, was 2127 01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:30,080 Speaker 1: a huge fan of Sam brad for a number of years. 2128 01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,200 Speaker 1: He has looked very good in the offseason. Again, no 2129 01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:37,599 Speaker 1: pads and all that stuff. But um, so I think 2130 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:40,040 Speaker 1: in the case of this team, it makes a lot 2131 01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:43,120 Speaker 1: of sense of kinde wine to move him in now 2132 01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,240 Speaker 1: they're there are different things, I mean, just your team 2133 01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:48,720 Speaker 1: in general. Uh, you know, the first thing I think 2134 01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,479 Speaker 1: of is like, there's no to me, there's not a 2135 01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,640 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford of Buffalo. So to me, if you if 2136 01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,320 Speaker 1: you think Josh Allen do the job, and that makes 2137 01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,760 Speaker 1: more sense to me to maybe push him in right away, 2138 01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:01,960 Speaker 1: the opposed to if you've got Sam Bradford. You know 2139 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:05,479 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, right and and tell me if I'm wrong, Daron. 2140 01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:07,559 Speaker 1: But it would also seem that with a first year 2141 01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:11,680 Speaker 1: head coach, you know, Steve Wilkes, that stability at that 2142 01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:15,120 Speaker 1: position is of paramount importance and you know there's a 2143 01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:18,519 Speaker 1: little bit more assurance that Bradford can provide that just 2144 01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:23,400 Speaker 1: based on experience alone. So has Wilkes made any comments 2145 01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:26,599 Speaker 1: that you can read between the lines and clearly see 2146 01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:29,520 Speaker 1: that you know he would prefer to have some stability 2147 01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:34,160 Speaker 1: there with an experienced type player. Not really, in fact, 2148 01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:36,000 Speaker 1: to me, it's been the opposite. I mean, I can 2149 01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:39,000 Speaker 1: be really easier for Steve Wilkes to come right out 2150 01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:41,599 Speaker 1: and say, look, Josh Rosen gonna sit. He's a rookie 2151 01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:44,759 Speaker 1: and we've got Sam Bradford, and you know, we're assuming 2152 01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:46,840 Speaker 1: he's going to be healthy, but why wouldn't. He's our 2153 01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:50,760 Speaker 1: quarterback and that's our guy. And really, while he has 2154 01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,920 Speaker 1: set often as Sam Bradford as a starter, he has 2155 01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:58,000 Speaker 1: also said multiple that there will be a competition and 2156 01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:01,040 Speaker 1: he has not ruled out when asked several times that 2157 01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:03,160 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen could be the start of this year. So 2158 01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:07,080 Speaker 1: I do think it's it's relatively open in that regard. 2159 01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:09,240 Speaker 1: I still think when it all said and done, that 2160 01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,000 Speaker 1: Bradford is going to be able to win the job 2161 01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:14,880 Speaker 1: because and from what I've watched over the years, when 2162 01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:18,479 Speaker 1: I've watched this league, that the veteran does hold that 2163 01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:23,320 Speaker 1: that hammer of the experience, especially when you go through camp. 2164 01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:26,360 Speaker 1: Now can it change. But we saw what happened just 2165 01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:31,080 Speaker 1: last couple of years with Deshaun Watson and Houston and 2166 01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:36,000 Speaker 1: Tom Savage and Mitchell Trubisky and Glennon in Chicago, you know, 2167 01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:39,960 Speaker 1: just recently where we're talking about guys that officially won 2168 01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:42,280 Speaker 1: the job out of training camp, and that changed almost 2169 01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:45,920 Speaker 1: immediately when both teams because it became clear it made 2170 01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:47,880 Speaker 1: more sense to start the rookie and they might have 2171 01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:51,360 Speaker 1: been better off starting the rookie, so and especially so, yeah, 2172 01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:53,679 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's something to keep in mind as well. 2173 01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:56,799 Speaker 1: So let me follow this up with this, Darren, because 2174 01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, I know we're all speculating, we're all trying 2175 01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:01,400 Speaker 1: to read between the lines and read the tea leaves 2176 01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:03,680 Speaker 1: of what the coaches and the gems are saying with 2177 01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:06,400 Speaker 1: respect to the plan. Because we were just talking to 2178 01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,840 Speaker 1: Eric Allen last hour from New York Jets dot com, 2179 01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:12,960 Speaker 1: and he's of the opinion that if Sam Darnold plays 2180 01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:18,360 Speaker 1: relatively even to that of McCown or Bridgewater for that matter, 2181 01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:21,320 Speaker 1: that Donald could very well get the nod. Are you 2182 01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:24,680 Speaker 1: of the opinion that the same might apply in Arizona? 2183 01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:29,439 Speaker 1: Or would Rosen have to maybe decidedly outperform Bradford in 2184 01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:33,280 Speaker 1: the preseason. This would be my take on it, But 2185 01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,640 Speaker 1: I still think he would have to decidedly beat him 2186 01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:41,320 Speaker 1: out because unlike Josh McCown, who's not only up there 2187 01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:43,439 Speaker 1: in years and he's got a limited future. I mean, 2188 01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:46,559 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford A has played very good foot fall again 2189 01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:49,680 Speaker 1: when he's on the field, true, and b he's only 2190 01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:53,479 Speaker 1: thirty years old himself. And you know, you don't know 2191 01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:56,960 Speaker 1: exactly what you have when Josh rosen and and the 2192 01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:02,680 Speaker 1: team is working very hard to try and stay competitive 2193 01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:06,200 Speaker 1: while they go through this quarterback transition. Um, you know, 2194 01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:09,519 Speaker 1: it's it's funny. You know, I've covered the steam long enough. 2195 01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:12,519 Speaker 1: It used to be once upon a time, five hundred 2196 01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:16,160 Speaker 1: was caused for celebration, and last year this team won 2197 01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:19,400 Speaker 1: five hundred and it was like the balls were crumbling. 2198 01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:23,920 Speaker 1: And so I think the expectations around here are to 2199 01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:28,400 Speaker 1: try and you know again, make the playoffs and win 2200 01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:31,320 Speaker 1: the division if at all possible. And it's tough to 2201 01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:34,080 Speaker 1: imagine that going with the rookie quarterback in a lot 2202 01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:36,439 Speaker 1: of ways. Ry the line with Darren Urban, who covers 2203 01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:40,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals nineteen seasons, covering to Cardinals for Arizona Cardinals 2204 01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:43,599 Speaker 1: dot Com, Andy Darren not that, um, you know, Larry 2205 01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:46,840 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald is one of the most respected players in the NFL, 2206 01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:49,439 Speaker 1: and not that he would have any extra influence on 2207 01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:51,800 Speaker 1: a decision like this, but I'm wondering what, you know, 2208 01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:55,320 Speaker 1: he is Larry Fitzgerald, what's his what's his relationship look 2209 01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:58,519 Speaker 1: like with the quarterbacks there, and how does he handle 2210 01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, a new quarterback in and Josh Rosen, our 2211 01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:02,640 Speaker 1: new one in Sam Bradford, for that matter, how's he 2212 01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:06,200 Speaker 1: working with those guys. I mean, I think he's worked fine. 2213 01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:10,080 Speaker 1: You know, they Bradford has been on a limited schedule 2214 01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:13,160 Speaker 1: all off season as they try and make sure that 2215 01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,760 Speaker 1: his need is one hundred percent going into training camp. 2216 01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:19,160 Speaker 1: So I think Josh Rosen has got a lot more 2217 01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:23,160 Speaker 1: reps working with guys like fits maybe than he normally 2218 01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:28,439 Speaker 1: would have. I think it fits his case. He's not 2219 01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:31,280 Speaker 1: that guy. He's not going to go in and say, hey, 2220 01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:33,479 Speaker 1: I gotta have this guy being my quarterback. I mean 2221 01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:39,479 Speaker 1: the long and sometimes interesting list of quarterbacks that Larry 2222 01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:41,560 Speaker 1: has had a playlists two thousand and four when he 2223 01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:44,000 Speaker 1: showed up. I mean, he's had some good runs with 2224 01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,960 Speaker 1: a couple of big names like Kurt Warner and obviously 2225 01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:50,320 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, but there's been plenty of guys and he's 2226 01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:53,840 Speaker 1: played with both because of injury and because the team 2227 01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:55,960 Speaker 1: was not in a good position to have anybody else 2228 01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:57,800 Speaker 1: in the roster that he's had to catch passes for. 2229 01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:03,160 Speaker 1: And in fact, right before the veterans left last week, 2230 01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:06,040 Speaker 1: Fitz talked to the media and he was asked about 2231 01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:09,439 Speaker 1: who he preferred at quarterback, and he basically said, look, 2232 01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:12,679 Speaker 1: I'm what I'm out here to do is catch passes 2233 01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:15,759 Speaker 1: the best I can for whoever's throwing it. And frankly, 2234 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,920 Speaker 1: it's been a quarterback carousel since my entire career, so 2235 01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:21,439 Speaker 1: I don't really I don't focus on who's throwing the ball. 2236 01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,559 Speaker 1: So ultimately, I don't think Fitch really has a huge 2237 01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:26,439 Speaker 1: feeling one y or the other, other than the fact 2238 01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:29,080 Speaker 1: that I do think he's encouraged. I mean, if you 2239 01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:32,360 Speaker 1: would have told Fitz the Dave Carson Palmer retired on 2240 01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:35,760 Speaker 1: January second, that this quarterback room would have Bradford and 2241 01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:38,679 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen at this point going forward, I think he'd 2242 01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:41,479 Speaker 1: be very much encouraged, because it was looking bleak there 2243 01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:44,840 Speaker 1: for a while. Last one from me, Darren is you know, 2244 01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:48,360 Speaker 1: we know what the knock on Rosen was, whether it 2245 01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:52,439 Speaker 1: was perceived or real or completely false, you know, just 2246 01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:57,400 Speaker 1: the demeanor around other teammates, being a good leader, that 2247 01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:01,840 Speaker 1: whole thing. What have been your observations through the spring 2248 01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:06,800 Speaker 1: with him, and maybe even more importantly, has he tried 2249 01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:09,920 Speaker 1: to dispel that myth? Does it look like he's almost 2250 01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:12,200 Speaker 1: working too hard to dispel that myth? Or is he 2251 01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:17,519 Speaker 1: just being himself? I will say that Josh is a 2252 01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:20,720 Speaker 1: guy who has admitted maybe when he first got to 2253 01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:23,040 Speaker 1: UCLA he had some growing up to do, and he 2254 01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:25,080 Speaker 1: feels like he did it. I will say that the 2255 01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:28,240 Speaker 1: guy I've interacted with, you know, other than being a 2256 01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:31,439 Speaker 1: young kid like all these other rookies, he doesn't seem 2257 01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:33,760 Speaker 1: not much different to me than any other guy. Does 2258 01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:37,000 Speaker 1: he have confidence in himself, Yes, but he says he 2259 01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:39,400 Speaker 1: says the right things. He wants to play right away, 2260 01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:43,479 Speaker 1: but he understands Sam Bradford's experience. He's grateful that Sam 2261 01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,720 Speaker 1: Bradford has kind of taken him under his wing. From 2262 01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:51,559 Speaker 1: my understanding talking to guys, you know, his teammates like him. 2263 01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:55,680 Speaker 1: He's shown good leadership in the huddle and here's the 2264 01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:59,160 Speaker 1: other thing too, and I've I've felt this again covering 2265 01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,080 Speaker 1: this league for a long time. If he goes out 2266 01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:05,280 Speaker 1: and eventually starts throwing for three hundred yards and three 2267 01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,479 Speaker 1: touchdowns in the game, ain't nobody's going to care how 2268 01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,320 Speaker 1: he is or how he might be. And if he 2269 01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:13,640 Speaker 1: doesn't perform, then all of a sudden, it's going to 2270 01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:16,360 Speaker 1: be because of his personality or whatever it might be. 2271 01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:18,560 Speaker 1: Matt Weiner was a Firstean got pick around here and 2272 01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:22,519 Speaker 1: a lot of people like Matt, but he got the way. 2273 01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:25,439 Speaker 1: He kind of carried himself in certain ways, rubbed people 2274 01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:27,680 Speaker 1: the wrong way, and it got worse. Why because he 2275 01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:30,880 Speaker 1: struggled on the field. And ultimately, if Josh Rosen is 2276 01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:33,679 Speaker 1: able to play football the right way, just like Baker 2277 01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:36,439 Speaker 1: Mayfield in Cleveland, I don't think anybody's really going to 2278 01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:38,080 Speaker 1: care that much, or it's going to be a quirk, 2279 01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:41,679 Speaker 1: you know, Like Aaron Rodgers might not be the most 2280 01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:44,439 Speaker 1: personal person all the time, but he's such a great 2281 01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:47,720 Speaker 1: quarterback nobody cares, right, And that's the kind of guy 2282 01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:50,720 Speaker 1: I saw in Rosen. I kind of saw the same 2283 01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:54,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers type demeanor. He may come off as not 2284 01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:57,960 Speaker 1: all that warm and fuzzy, but when he plays like that, 2285 01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:01,479 Speaker 1: nobody seems to mind. Yeah, and he's, like I said, 2286 01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:03,880 Speaker 1: he's been great every time I've interacted with him. I mean, 2287 01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:06,560 Speaker 1: don't I don't know if he's necessarily going to be 2288 01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:09,280 Speaker 1: everybody's best buddy. But I mean, you got sixty seventy 2289 01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:11,600 Speaker 1: one right now, ninety guys in the locker room. Not 2290 01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:14,080 Speaker 1: everybody's going to click. Sure. I have one more question 2291 01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:16,120 Speaker 1: for Darren and then it goes to the quarterback coach, 2292 01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:19,080 Speaker 1: Byron Leffert to a former first round draft pick, does 2293 01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:23,360 Speaker 1: that give him maybe particular insight into what Josh Rosen 2294 01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:25,000 Speaker 1: might need or what he's going through a little bit? 2295 01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:29,160 Speaker 1: I think it helps. I think Byron personally an up 2296 01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:32,320 Speaker 1: and coming young coach. I love the way that he's 2297 01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:35,680 Speaker 1: embraced coaching. I was I talked to him last year 2298 01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:38,240 Speaker 1: when he first did this, and I'm not so sure 2299 01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:40,960 Speaker 1: he was thinking he was definitely going to be a coach. 2300 01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:43,840 Speaker 1: But now he's there. I think he's really good at it. 2301 01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:46,320 Speaker 1: And I do think his pedigree as a first round 2302 01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:48,800 Speaker 1: pick does help. I mean, he came in the same 2303 01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:51,840 Speaker 1: year as Carson Palmer in the draft and then he 2304 01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:54,320 Speaker 1: ended up being Carson Palmer's quarterback coach last year, and 2305 01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:56,680 Speaker 1: I remember talking to Carson about it. He's like, but Byron, 2306 01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:00,400 Speaker 1: Byron knows. Byron's been there, and everybody knows he's been there. 2307 01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:03,280 Speaker 1: And so I do think that helps quite a bit. 2308 01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:06,400 Speaker 1: And I think Mike McCoy helps the offensive coordinator. I mean, 2309 01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:08,680 Speaker 1: here's the guy who's worked with a number of different quarterbacks, 2310 01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:11,440 Speaker 1: has been really good and whether it's a Peyton Manning 2311 01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:14,240 Speaker 1: or Tin Tebow, and I think that's going to help 2312 01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:17,760 Speaker 1: Rosen's development as well. Hey, Darren, thanks for this. Good 2313 01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:20,080 Speaker 1: to hear from you, and good luck with the Cardinals 2314 01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:23,360 Speaker 1: this year. All right, thanks guys. Darren Urban covers Arizona 2315 01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals for Arizona Cardinals dot Com. Nineteen years doing that, 2316 01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:28,520 Speaker 1: and he joined us on the Subway Fresh Day Coline 2317 01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:32,160 Speaker 1: Subway Eat Fresh. There's a common theme here, Chris. I'll 2318 01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:34,160 Speaker 1: be interested to hear what they say in Cleveland. But 2319 01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:36,760 Speaker 1: each of the places we've talked to already, and we 2320 01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:38,560 Speaker 1: know what the bill situation is. What we talked to 2321 01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:41,080 Speaker 1: the folks in Baltimore. We talked to Eric Allen and 2322 01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:44,040 Speaker 1: the Jets, Darren Urbans and everybody's in the same place 2323 01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:47,080 Speaker 1: with this quarterback thing, this first round thing, and you 2324 01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:48,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I asked Darren the 2325 01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:51,600 Speaker 1: question about it, wasn't it doesn't seem like that long 2326 01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:55,640 Speaker 1: ago where if there were five first round quarterbacks, somebody 2327 01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:57,839 Speaker 1: was going to be thrown right into the breach, somebody's 2328 01:55:57,840 --> 01:55:59,600 Speaker 1: going to start right away. That doesn't appear to be 2329 01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:01,920 Speaker 1: at all. I don't know if that's changed in the NFL, 2330 01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:06,400 Speaker 1: if it's different thinking, more cautious coaching, smarter coaching maybe, 2331 01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:08,440 Speaker 1: or if it's just the circumstances about each of these 2332 01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:11,880 Speaker 1: five positions. Yeah, I think each case is different to 2333 01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:15,560 Speaker 1: a certain degree, you know, talking about past instances and 2334 01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:18,800 Speaker 1: what teams are dealing with. Now, you know, Cam Newton 2335 01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:20,480 Speaker 1: was the first pick in the draft, and there really 2336 01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:23,880 Speaker 1: wasn't anybody close to him on that roster that was 2337 01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:25,560 Speaker 1: going to overtake him. So I think it was a 2338 01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:27,880 Speaker 1: foregone conclusion that this is the best of what we have. 2339 01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:31,000 Speaker 1: We got to put him on the field. Yeah, I'm 2340 01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:34,480 Speaker 1: sure there were other situations that weren't quite as clear cut, 2341 01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:38,320 Speaker 1: and yet some rookies found their way onto the field 2342 01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:41,840 Speaker 1: early Between two ten and twenty and fifteen that we 2343 01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:44,160 Speaker 1: can come up with if we go back and look 2344 01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:49,879 Speaker 1: and yeah, this year is it's I think it's unique 2345 01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:53,080 Speaker 1: because it seems that they're all aligned in the same 2346 01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:56,280 Speaker 1: kind of approach, and you don't often see that. There's 2347 01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:59,040 Speaker 1: usually one or two that are going this way and 2348 01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:01,360 Speaker 1: a couple others that are gonna sit and buy their time. 2349 01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:06,120 Speaker 1: It seems like nobody wants to throw their first round 2350 01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:09,080 Speaker 1: prize into the fire right away. You think, at least 2351 01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:11,800 Speaker 1: right now, do you think we're too early with this? 2352 01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:15,560 Speaker 1: Now it's the Diace cast, We've already do what are 2353 01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:18,000 Speaker 1: you kidding me? We got a data fill them. I mean, 2354 01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:20,320 Speaker 1: what do we do? But think? I mean, is this 2355 01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:22,680 Speaker 1: the question that would be better suited for, you know, 2356 01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:26,120 Speaker 1: the second or third week of August where I'm certain 2357 01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:31,040 Speaker 1: that it's premature, okay, because yeah, I mean, it's like 2358 01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:33,360 Speaker 1: the polaroid photo just came out of the camera. You know, 2359 01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:35,120 Speaker 1: we gotta shake it for a little while before it 2360 01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:38,800 Speaker 1: comes into better focus. Here. You know, nobody, nobody that's 2361 01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:40,320 Speaker 1: under the age of twenty knows what the hell I'm 2362 01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:43,560 Speaker 1: talking about. But I think, yeah, we're gonna need some 2363 01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:46,960 Speaker 1: preseason games before these teams can get a firm grasp 2364 01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:50,760 Speaker 1: of just where their rookies are and if in fact 2365 01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:54,400 Speaker 1: they can contend for the starting job right from the jump. 2366 01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:57,160 Speaker 1: I think two preseason games are going to tell a 2367 01:57:57,200 --> 01:57:59,200 Speaker 1: lot about these rookie qubis. I'm trying to think of 2368 01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:02,160 Speaker 1: recent example. I mean, Russell Wilson really didn't win that 2369 01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:03,960 Speaker 1: job until it was a couple of weeks into his 2370 01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:08,200 Speaker 1: training camp. It's for venting camp, right, Hey, Tyrod Taylor 2371 01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:10,680 Speaker 1: didn't get the job in Buffalo until August thirtieth, not 2372 01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:13,720 Speaker 1: as a rookie however, right, but as a first year starter, 2373 01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:15,840 Speaker 1: right right, Well, we can go back and look at that. 2374 01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:18,400 Speaker 1: What do you think which rookie quarterback is going to 2375 01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:21,200 Speaker 1: start first? That's our Twitter poll and right now on Twitter, 2376 01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:23,960 Speaker 1: with more than twelve hundred votes cast, forty three percent 2377 01:58:24,040 --> 01:58:26,400 Speaker 1: of you say it'll be the Jets. Sam Darnold will 2378 01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:28,840 Speaker 1: be the first rookie quarterback to start. And then it's 2379 01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:31,720 Speaker 1: twenty percent of you say Josh Allen or twenty one percent. 2380 01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:35,960 Speaker 1: Nineteen percent say either Josh Rosen in Arizona or Lamar 2381 01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:39,800 Speaker 1: Jackson in Baltimore. Seventeen percent say Baker Mayfield. We'd love 2382 01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:41,480 Speaker 1: to hear your voice on this. You can tweet it 2383 01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:44,120 Speaker 1: in or give us a call eight h three fifty 2384 01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:47,520 Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty. 2385 01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:49,720 Speaker 1: We still have to talk about Baker Mayfield and the Browns. 2386 01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:51,560 Speaker 1: That's coming up at the bottom of the hour with 2387 01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:54,520 Speaker 1: Dan Lobby from Cleveland dot Com. A call on the line, 2388 01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:57,000 Speaker 1: Jonathan and Alden has a thought on this. Jonathan, go ahead, 2389 01:58:57,040 --> 01:58:59,480 Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. Hey, thanks for the show. 2390 01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:02,680 Speaker 1: Gin I'll say I'm gonna go with Baker Mayfield if 2391 01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:04,720 Speaker 1: he pitched first. Overall, I think he has the most 2392 01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:08,480 Speaker 1: potential all the four quarterbacks that were chosen others in 2393 01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:11,000 Speaker 1: the first round. So I think Baker Mayfield will be 2394 01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:13,800 Speaker 1: the first of all the job. What do you think? Um, 2395 01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:19,640 Speaker 1: We talked about him a lot about Tyrode being there. Look, 2396 01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:22,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot at play there in Cleveland, and we're 2397 01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:24,600 Speaker 1: gonna ask our next guest about it. Part of it. 2398 01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:27,400 Speaker 1: I do believe that the future of the coach, Chris, 2399 01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:29,640 Speaker 1: when you go oh in sixteen, you are on a 2400 01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:33,400 Speaker 1: hot seat automatically, and are you you know, first of all, 2401 01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:36,240 Speaker 1: will Hugh Jackson have the ability to make that call? 2402 01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:37,960 Speaker 1: You know, when to put the quarterback in? Will it 2403 01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:40,720 Speaker 1: be dictated to him from above? That's number one. Number two, 2404 01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:43,520 Speaker 1: what would have to happen for you know, does he 2405 01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:46,000 Speaker 1: do that as a way to maybe give it? You know, 2406 01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:49,040 Speaker 1: you could argue, if Hugh Jackson and the Browns are 2407 01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:51,560 Speaker 1: in three oh and four, if he goes to the rookie, 2408 01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:55,080 Speaker 1: pulls Tyrode out, he buys himself more time. Hugh Jackson 2409 01:59:55,120 --> 01:59:58,040 Speaker 1: would right, yes, And you can flip it over and 2410 01:59:58,160 --> 02:00:01,840 Speaker 1: look at Steve wilkes situation in Arizona, first year head coach. 2411 02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:05,280 Speaker 1: You might he might say to himself, I want stability 2412 02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:07,480 Speaker 1: at the position. I'm going with the veteran. Hopefully we 2413 02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:10,120 Speaker 1: can win some games my first year. But the other 2414 02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:12,840 Speaker 1: side of that coin, because Darren Urban told us, well, 2415 02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:16,680 Speaker 1: he's actually been talking the other way. And if you're 2416 02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes, you got a figure. Well, my first year 2417 02:00:18,920 --> 02:00:21,320 Speaker 1: here is head coach, that's a gimme year. You know, 2418 02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:24,240 Speaker 1: the expectations are not that I have to win eleven 2419 02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:28,120 Speaker 1: games in most cases, right, so my first year is 2420 02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:30,280 Speaker 1: a gimme year. Maybe I should get the rookie quarterback 2421 02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:32,600 Speaker 1: on the field right away. So in the gimme year 2422 02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:34,800 Speaker 1: he can learn, and if we lose games because he's 2423 02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:38,640 Speaker 1: throwing late game interceptions, I'm not out of a job. 2424 02:00:39,160 --> 02:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Let's let him take his lumps and learn his lessons 2425 02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:44,560 Speaker 1: here in my first year as head coach, where you know, 2426 02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:46,880 Speaker 1: I've got a gimme year, and then in the second 2427 02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:49,440 Speaker 1: year he's all the more prepared, you know, to get 2428 02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:51,280 Speaker 1: me some wins when I'm gonna need him and the 2429 02:00:51,280 --> 02:00:53,680 Speaker 1: pressure is going to be on as a second year coach. 2430 02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:55,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's a there's a bunch of different 2431 02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:58,760 Speaker 1: ways you can look at it. It's interesting that Darren Urban, 2432 02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:01,839 Speaker 1: when I asked him that question, Wilkes has been actually 2433 02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:04,600 Speaker 1: talking in the opposite way that the GM has been talking. Yeah, 2434 02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, the DGM Steve kim is talking about Sam 2435 02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:11,760 Speaker 1: Bradford's and experience and what a valuable asset that is 2436 02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:14,280 Speaker 1: for them at the quarterback position. And then you got 2437 02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:16,560 Speaker 1: Wilkes saying, well, you know, if Frozen plays, well, we'll 2438 02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:18,560 Speaker 1: put them on the field. So you know, it's just 2439 02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:22,200 Speaker 1: there's so many ways you can slice it. But I 2440 02:01:22,320 --> 02:01:24,280 Speaker 1: think the approach is very interesting, and we'll get the 2441 02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:27,760 Speaker 1: Cleveland approach here in depth in the next segment, tweet 2442 02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:30,840 Speaker 1: Sheet MC tweets in what are your thoughts you and me, 2443 02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:33,120 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about giving the rookie quarterback Josh 2444 02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:36,040 Speaker 1: Allen a couple of series in the game, switching it up, 2445 02:01:36,680 --> 02:01:41,160 Speaker 1: so alternating the quarterback what mccaren and Peterman and I 2446 02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:43,520 Speaker 1: like that. I'm all for doing that in a preseason game. 2447 02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:45,520 Speaker 1: If you want to get Josh Allen exposed to first 2448 02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:49,480 Speaker 1: team defense, I'll sign up for that. But boy, I 2449 02:01:49,520 --> 02:01:51,240 Speaker 1: don't know if I want to be messing with regular 2450 02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:53,560 Speaker 1: season games with quarterbacks in and out. And a tweet 2451 02:01:53,640 --> 02:01:55,680 Speaker 1: from the tweet Sheet Dougie Briggs. I would love to 2452 02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:58,840 Speaker 1: see Josh Allen start, but the Jets are in more 2453 02:01:58,880 --> 02:02:02,000 Speaker 1: of a win sooner than situation than we are. So 2454 02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm Todd Bowles is in year three. I guess he goes. 2455 02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm assuming Donald and of all the quarterbacks stracted as 2456 02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:10,240 Speaker 1: the best shot to start right away, but Alan is 2457 02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:12,960 Speaker 1: the only other guy with no established VET in front 2458 02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:17,160 Speaker 1: of him. Um, there's a couple of things there. We 2459 02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:20,320 Speaker 1: called Josh McCown an established, he's an established VAT. I 2460 02:02:20,360 --> 02:02:23,600 Speaker 1: guess he's if he's nothing else, He's bounced around nothing, 2461 02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:26,080 Speaker 1: if nothing else. He is a vet. He's a veteran. 2462 02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:27,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how good he is. I don't know 2463 02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:30,040 Speaker 1: how traveled veteran. He is a vet. He had a 2464 02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:32,280 Speaker 1: good year last year, Yeah for that team, pretty good year. 2465 02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:34,720 Speaker 1: Um still took him till March to resign, and I 2466 02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:37,040 Speaker 1: get Do we agree that the Jets are in more 2467 02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:40,080 Speaker 1: of a win now situation? I guess so. I don't 2468 02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:41,840 Speaker 1: know if that is going to motivate them. You know, 2469 02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:44,720 Speaker 1: I almost think they're still They're still doing a lot 2470 02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:46,160 Speaker 1: of building there. I mean, they had a lot of 2471 02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:48,920 Speaker 1: cat money to spend, so that's why there are some 2472 02:02:49,120 --> 02:02:53,080 Speaker 1: veterans on that roster. I saw they just picked up 2473 02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:55,960 Speaker 1: Courtney Upshaw too this week, so you know they're scooping 2474 02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:57,440 Speaker 1: up a lot of veterans because they had one hundred 2475 02:02:57,440 --> 02:02:59,640 Speaker 1: million in cap space. You know, they got a premier 2476 02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:02,000 Speaker 1: corner that they signed. I don't know if they're wind now. 2477 02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:06,520 Speaker 1: I think drafting Darnhold that three overall, to me, almost 2478 02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:09,920 Speaker 1: gives the Jets to the luxury of Okay, the rebuild continues. 2479 02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:12,920 Speaker 1: Twenty one old quarterback. Yeah right, it's a longer window. 2480 02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:16,720 Speaker 1: I would always say, the other building around our third 2481 02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:19,440 Speaker 1: overall pick quarters. I gotta believe that opinion is based 2482 02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:21,320 Speaker 1: on the fact that Todd Bowles is in year three 2483 02:03:21,400 --> 02:03:23,040 Speaker 1: and now he might not make it, hasn't been to 2484 02:03:23,080 --> 02:03:25,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs yet. Yeah, all right, a breakcare. We're gonna 2485 02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:27,720 Speaker 1: talk about the Browns. We're gonna talk about Baker Mayfield 2486 02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:30,560 Speaker 1: where he stands in this picture. Which rookie quarterback will 2487 02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:33,480 Speaker 1: start first? We'll talk with Dan Lobby of Cleveland dot Com. 2488 02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:35,400 Speaker 1: He says the Browns are doing it the right way. 2489 02:03:35,440 --> 02:03:37,840 Speaker 1: We'll get into that with him when we return. Chris 2490 02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:40,200 Speaker 1: Brown with us here until three another thirty three minutes 2491 02:03:40,280 --> 02:03:42,880 Speaker 1: or so, One Bill's Live, presented by Kalidah Health from 2492 02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:56,920 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive, and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome 2493 02:03:56,920 --> 02:03:58,840 Speaker 1: back to the show, John Murphy and Chris Brown. Here 2494 02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:02,680 Speaker 1: until today it is One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. 2495 02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:06,320 Speaker 1: Question on the table today with the five rookies quarterbacks 2496 02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:08,200 Speaker 1: drafted in the first round, which one's going to get 2497 02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:11,040 Speaker 1: the first chance to start? We know about Josh Allen, 2498 02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:13,480 Speaker 1: We've talked about him a lot. We've talked about the 2499 02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:17,320 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson. We've talked about Darnold and 2500 02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:19,600 Speaker 1: the Jets. We talked about the Arizona Cardinals a moment 2501 02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:21,480 Speaker 1: ago and Josh Rosen. Now time to go to the 2502 02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:25,320 Speaker 1: number one guy, right, Baker Mayfield drafted by the Cleveland 2503 02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:28,160 Speaker 1: Browns first overall on the Subway Fresh Take Hotline with 2504 02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:32,040 Speaker 1: US sportswriter for Cleveland dot Com Dan Lobby, Dannis, John Murphy, 2505 02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:33,760 Speaker 1: and Chris Brown here in Buffalo. Thank you very much 2506 02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:36,440 Speaker 1: for joining us. Hey, guys, how you doing. We're doing well. 2507 02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:39,520 Speaker 1: Recent post yesterday, I believe you said the Browns are 2508 02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:42,080 Speaker 1: handling the quarterback the right way. Tell me why you 2509 02:04:42,160 --> 02:04:45,000 Speaker 1: think that. What do you see? Well, I think they 2510 02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:47,600 Speaker 1: needed to put a situation in place where you know, 2511 02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:50,040 Speaker 1: they had a very clear path forward for Baker Mayfield. 2512 02:04:50,120 --> 02:04:51,880 Speaker 1: That's something they haven't really done in the past. So 2513 02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:53,960 Speaker 1: you know what, you guys, well know they gave up 2514 02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:56,200 Speaker 1: a third round pick, the first pick in the third round, 2515 02:04:56,240 --> 02:04:59,520 Speaker 1: to bring Tyrod Taylor to Cleveland and kind of offer 2516 02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:02,120 Speaker 1: a better who could start for them, but not necessarily 2517 02:05:02,200 --> 02:05:04,320 Speaker 1: a guy that you know you're going to be attached 2518 02:05:04,360 --> 02:05:06,480 Speaker 1: too long term, but the guy you could start at 2519 02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:08,880 Speaker 1: quarterback if Baker wasn't ready. You know, they had a 2520 02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:11,480 Speaker 1: through standing into the mix to sort of be a mentor. 2521 02:05:11,600 --> 02:05:13,640 Speaker 1: He came in knowing exactly what his role was going 2522 02:05:13,680 --> 02:05:18,440 Speaker 1: to be, third string guy, help Tyrod mentor Baker Mayfield. 2523 02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:21,400 Speaker 1: So they really put a situation in place where, look, 2524 02:05:21,440 --> 02:05:24,040 Speaker 1: if Baker goes out in training camp and flows everybody 2525 02:05:24,080 --> 02:05:27,080 Speaker 1: away and wins the job, fine, but the reality is, 2526 02:05:27,160 --> 02:05:29,600 Speaker 1: it looks like it's going to be Tyrod Taylor throughout 2527 02:05:29,680 --> 02:05:32,800 Speaker 1: training camp and starting week one, and so they'll kind 2528 02:05:32,800 --> 02:05:36,000 Speaker 1: of slowly work Baker in. I guess the question I 2529 02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:38,520 Speaker 1: would start with on that Dan is what are the 2530 02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:41,360 Speaker 1: expectations in whether it's Taylor or Baker Mayfield? What are 2531 02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:44,280 Speaker 1: the expectations because that would play into what the Browns 2532 02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:47,760 Speaker 1: quarterback decision is, wouldn't it. Yeah? I think so. And 2533 02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:49,840 Speaker 1: the bottom line is, you know, this is a team 2534 02:05:49,880 --> 02:05:52,240 Speaker 1: that's gone one and thirty one over the last two years. 2535 02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:55,640 Speaker 1: They went oh in sixteen last season, So I mean, 2536 02:05:55,680 --> 02:05:57,880 Speaker 1: they've got to win some games. They've got to get 2537 02:05:57,960 --> 02:06:00,480 Speaker 1: the weight of this last two years off of them. 2538 02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:03,840 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson has to get the weight of the losing 2539 02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:06,200 Speaker 1: that has followed him around the last two years off 2540 02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:09,120 Speaker 1: of him. And you know, really having a veteran guy 2541 02:06:09,200 --> 02:06:11,560 Speaker 1: in there that at least has won some football games, 2542 02:06:11,600 --> 02:06:15,440 Speaker 1: at least has run an offense to kind of take 2543 02:06:15,520 --> 02:06:17,760 Speaker 1: some pressure off and not just throw a rookie out 2544 02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:19,640 Speaker 1: there and then as good as Baker is, as good 2545 02:06:19,640 --> 02:06:22,320 Speaker 1: as he might be, just never quite know what's going 2546 02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:25,040 Speaker 1: to happen for a guy that's you know, still still 2547 02:06:25,080 --> 02:06:27,760 Speaker 1: struggling to take snaps honestly when he's not in the shotgun. So, 2548 02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, having a veteran in there to help win games, 2549 02:06:31,320 --> 02:06:33,200 Speaker 1: that's really what they want to do. You know, I 2550 02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:35,560 Speaker 1: don't think they're looking at a high wind total necessarily, 2551 02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:37,640 Speaker 1: but look, you gotta figure out a way to at 2552 02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:40,160 Speaker 1: least try to get the five or six wins. How 2553 02:06:40,240 --> 02:06:46,600 Speaker 1: much would you say the past failures with rookie quarterbacks 2554 02:06:47,120 --> 02:06:51,120 Speaker 1: is impacting the current approach with Baker. I mean, we 2555 02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:55,200 Speaker 1: know Kaiser was probably rushed onto the field prematurely. We 2556 02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:57,320 Speaker 1: saw a lot of late interceptions with him in games 2557 02:06:57,440 --> 02:06:59,640 Speaker 1: last you know, when he was out on the field. 2558 02:07:00,280 --> 02:07:03,600 Speaker 1: U the man'zelle thing was probably a different animal completely. 2559 02:07:03,720 --> 02:07:07,880 Speaker 1: But with the past, with the past failures with rookie 2560 02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:10,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks getting on the field early, do you think it 2561 02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:15,400 Speaker 1: dramatically changed the Browns approach approach organizationally. And is that 2562 02:07:15,560 --> 02:07:20,760 Speaker 1: why we see them at least right now channeling everything 2563 02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:25,800 Speaker 1: towards Taylor's starting. Yeah, I think at least for keep 2564 02:07:25,800 --> 02:07:28,200 Speaker 1: the accents. It's sort of that recent history of the 2565 02:07:28,280 --> 02:07:31,000 Speaker 1: Shan Kaiser and kind of what happened last year. Now, 2566 02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:34,240 Speaker 1: obviously they're very different prospects. I mean, Deshaun Kaiser simply 2567 02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:37,320 Speaker 1: wasn't ready. He simply isn't as talented as Baker Mayfield. 2568 02:07:37,320 --> 02:07:38,800 Speaker 1: But I do think that was part of it, because 2569 02:07:39,320 --> 02:07:41,200 Speaker 1: when Kaiser went in there there were just elements of 2570 02:07:41,240 --> 02:07:43,320 Speaker 1: the offense they couldn't even run and they turned the 2571 02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:46,400 Speaker 1: ball over. The twenty eight interceptions last year, most of 2572 02:07:46,440 --> 02:07:49,520 Speaker 1: those by Kaiser. You know. The good thing about Tyrod 2573 02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:52,000 Speaker 1: Taylor's at least he didn't turn the ball over when 2574 02:07:52,040 --> 02:07:54,360 Speaker 1: he was in Buffalo, and they're hoping that can continue here. 2575 02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:58,840 Speaker 1: You know, it just really helped this offense back out 2576 02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:00,400 Speaker 1: of a fan base I think is a little more 2577 02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:03,280 Speaker 1: accepting of this, because you know, they obviously know the 2578 02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:06,120 Speaker 1: longer history. I know, with John Dorsey, you know you 2579 02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:08,760 Speaker 1: also look at his recent history. He drafted Patrick Mahomes, 2580 02:08:08,840 --> 02:08:11,440 Speaker 1: traded up to get him at number ten overall and 2581 02:08:11,560 --> 02:08:13,840 Speaker 1: then sat him for a full year behind Alex Smith. 2582 02:08:13,960 --> 02:08:16,680 Speaker 1: Now that's a different situation in some ways because Alex 2583 02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:20,040 Speaker 1: Smith is a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback. He took that 2584 02:08:20,120 --> 02:08:23,120 Speaker 1: team to the playoffs. They were division contenders. The Browns 2585 02:08:23,120 --> 02:08:24,800 Speaker 1: aren't going to be that. So I don't see Baker 2586 02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:27,360 Speaker 1: sitting the entire year like Mahomes did with the exception 2587 02:08:27,480 --> 02:08:29,560 Speaker 1: of that last game. But you just kind of look 2588 02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:31,760 Speaker 1: at Dorsey's recent history and I think there's some of 2589 02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:34,000 Speaker 1: that in there too. On the line with Dan Lobby 2590 02:08:34,360 --> 02:08:37,040 Speaker 1: covers the Browns for Cleveland dot Com again in your 2591 02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:40,400 Speaker 1: post room yesterday at kind of a review of OTAs 2592 02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:43,440 Speaker 1: in minicamp, you said Baker Mayfield, in my opinion, did 2593 02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:45,680 Speaker 1: not look ready to compete with Tyrod Taylor for the 2594 02:08:45,760 --> 02:08:48,280 Speaker 1: number one quarterback job. What's Mayfield missing? What did you see? 2595 02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:51,320 Speaker 1: You know? I think he's still just adjusting to a 2596 02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:54,320 Speaker 1: lot of things. You know, like I said, he's struggling 2597 02:08:54,400 --> 02:08:55,920 Speaker 1: to take snaps under center a little bit. And I 2598 02:08:55,920 --> 02:08:57,320 Speaker 1: don't want to make it sound like you can't do it, 2599 02:08:57,480 --> 02:08:59,280 Speaker 1: but you're still seeing some hiccups there. You know, this 2600 02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:00,880 Speaker 1: is the guy that took a lot of shotguns maps 2601 02:09:00,920 --> 02:09:03,440 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma and under Todd Hailey, I think they will 2602 02:09:03,480 --> 02:09:06,080 Speaker 1: be in the shotgun a good amount. But in the NFL, 2603 02:09:06,160 --> 02:09:07,520 Speaker 1: you still didn't need to be able to go up 2604 02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:10,640 Speaker 1: under center and take that snap. You know, there there 2605 02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:12,960 Speaker 1: were times where I thought he got you know, he 2606 02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:14,800 Speaker 1: had to kind of sit back there and make reeves. 2607 02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:16,920 Speaker 1: He tended to want to rely on his legs a 2608 02:09:16,960 --> 02:09:19,240 Speaker 1: little bit. He didn't really want to sit through and 2609 02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:22,200 Speaker 1: go through his progressions. And he was successful when he 2610 02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:24,120 Speaker 1: could have a drop back and deliver the football when 2611 02:09:24,160 --> 02:09:27,120 Speaker 1: he had good protection. When things broke down a little bit, 2612 02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:29,000 Speaker 1: that's where he struggled. So I just think I saw 2613 02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:31,120 Speaker 1: a guy that's still sort of adjusting to running an 2614 02:09:31,240 --> 02:09:33,720 Speaker 1: NFL offense. I mean, he's been an NFL player for 2615 02:09:33,760 --> 02:09:35,440 Speaker 1: a less than two months, so some of this should 2616 02:09:35,480 --> 02:09:38,360 Speaker 1: be expected. So I just think, you know, he'll come 2617 02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:40,280 Speaker 1: back in training camp and I think he'll look sharper. 2618 02:09:40,360 --> 02:09:42,400 Speaker 1: I think he'll be I think he'll be more ready, 2619 02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:44,760 Speaker 1: But I just think he looked like a guy that 2620 02:09:44,840 --> 02:09:46,880 Speaker 1: hadn't been in the league for long and still kind 2621 02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:50,760 Speaker 1: of adjusting. So with that in mind and knowing all 2622 02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:53,280 Speaker 1: that We've read about Baker Mayfield pretty much from January 2623 02:09:53,320 --> 02:09:56,760 Speaker 1: to April, how he's got a photographic memory and all 2624 02:09:56,800 --> 02:10:00,480 Speaker 1: of that stuff and retains things uncommonly. Well, is the 2625 02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:06,480 Speaker 1: where how open is the window for Mayfield to potentially 2626 02:10:06,600 --> 02:10:09,520 Speaker 1: overtake Taylor? I don't know in the first month of 2627 02:10:09,560 --> 02:10:12,200 Speaker 1: the regular season. I mean, is it is it half open? 2628 02:10:12,360 --> 02:10:14,680 Speaker 1: Is it a crack? Is it completely shut? Are there 2629 02:10:14,720 --> 02:10:17,800 Speaker 1: any circumstances that could Does he have to grossly I 2630 02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:22,040 Speaker 1: guess outperform Tyrod for that to even become possibility. You know, 2631 02:10:22,080 --> 02:10:24,960 Speaker 1: I would never say that that it's completely closed. I think, 2632 02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, this team really the key moment in the season. 2633 02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:31,400 Speaker 1: I know this sounds super exciting is a Thursday night 2634 02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:35,360 Speaker 1: game against against the Jets in Week three. There maybe 2635 02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:37,400 Speaker 1: no one outside of Cleveland and New York will watch, 2636 02:10:37,560 --> 02:10:40,800 Speaker 1: but that's a game that you know, if the Browns 2637 02:10:40,840 --> 02:10:43,080 Speaker 1: come in oh and two to that game, they Pittsburgh 2638 02:10:43,120 --> 02:10:46,160 Speaker 1: and New Orleans before that, and then they play the Jets. 2639 02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:49,320 Speaker 1: If they lose that game, I think a whole lot 2640 02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:51,600 Speaker 1: of things go on the table. And you know, look, 2641 02:10:51,680 --> 02:10:54,680 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, I mean, you guys obviously know him very well. 2642 02:10:55,720 --> 02:10:58,320 Speaker 1: He's a veteran quarterback, He's won games, but he's also 2643 02:10:58,360 --> 02:11:00,200 Speaker 1: a guy that every now and again, you're gonna look up, 2644 02:11:00,720 --> 02:11:02,720 Speaker 1: it's going to be seventeen to fourteen again, and he's 2645 02:11:02,720 --> 02:11:05,040 Speaker 1: throwing for one hundred and fifty yards in the fourth quarters. So, 2646 02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, enough of that, combined with enough losing, could 2647 02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:11,920 Speaker 1: certainly push Baker into that starting role, maybe a little 2648 02:11:11,960 --> 02:11:15,200 Speaker 1: quicker than they anticipate. Again, how many factors in this 2649 02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:19,680 Speaker 1: quarterback decision in Cleveland are aside from the quarterbacks? For instance, 2650 02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:22,360 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson and his one and thirty one record, the 2651 02:11:22,440 --> 02:11:24,840 Speaker 1: fact that there's a new general manager that, just as 2652 02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:26,680 Speaker 1: you pointed out a couple of minutes ago, the desperate 2653 02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:29,360 Speaker 1: need just to win a few ball games. There's just 2654 02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:31,200 Speaker 1: seems to be a lot at play in Cleveland. It 2655 02:11:31,360 --> 02:11:33,320 Speaker 1: might it might have very little to do with how 2656 02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:37,600 Speaker 1: Tyrod is playing or the potential for Baker Mayfield. Yeah, 2657 02:11:37,800 --> 02:11:39,320 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of a lot of 2658 02:11:39,400 --> 02:11:43,840 Speaker 1: those outside factors, you know. I think again, it really 2659 02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:45,800 Speaker 1: does just come down to the fact that this team 2660 02:11:45,880 --> 02:11:48,240 Speaker 1: needs to figure out a way to win a few 2661 02:11:48,240 --> 02:11:50,600 Speaker 1: football games. And it might sound kind of silly, like, oh, 2662 02:11:50,720 --> 02:11:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, what's the difference between winning, you know, seven 2663 02:11:54,280 --> 02:11:56,480 Speaker 1: games with Tire or six games with Tyrod Taylor and 2664 02:11:56,560 --> 02:11:59,200 Speaker 1: four with Baker Mayfield. Right, either record is a bad record. 2665 02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:01,480 Speaker 1: But this is a team and a fan base that 2666 02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:04,160 Speaker 1: has been so beaten down by the last two years. 2667 02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:06,280 Speaker 1: Just to get out from under that a little bit 2668 02:12:06,320 --> 02:12:08,800 Speaker 1: and just to give this offense a little bit of 2669 02:12:08,880 --> 02:12:10,840 Speaker 1: space to breathe, because you've got some weapon. You've got 2670 02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:13,400 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon if he's able to stay on the field, 2671 02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:16,440 Speaker 1: you have Jarvis Landry, Duke Johnson. There's some guys on 2672 02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:19,040 Speaker 1: this offense. And if they have a quarterback that they 2673 02:12:19,120 --> 02:12:21,840 Speaker 1: can trust for the first half of the season that 2674 02:12:21,920 --> 02:12:25,320 Speaker 1: can let this offense breathe and let these playmakers do 2675 02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:27,400 Speaker 1: what they're able to do, I think that can go 2676 02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:30,120 Speaker 1: a long way to even helping Baker out down the road. 2677 02:12:31,040 --> 02:12:33,280 Speaker 1: Last one for me, Dan is, you know, we talked 2678 02:12:33,280 --> 02:12:36,120 Speaker 1: to a couple of other b reporters around the league 2679 02:12:36,160 --> 02:12:39,440 Speaker 1: in this same boat with rookie quarterbacks, and we saw 2680 02:12:39,520 --> 02:12:42,280 Speaker 1: that Lamar Jackson got reps with the ones, the twos, 2681 02:12:42,320 --> 02:12:44,280 Speaker 1: and the threes and pretty much ran the offense. The 2682 02:12:44,360 --> 02:12:47,800 Speaker 1: last day of mini camp in Baltimore, Josh Rosen is 2683 02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:51,240 Speaker 1: rotated in from time to time. What's been Baker's level 2684 02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:54,400 Speaker 1: of exposure you know with the starting offense through the 2685 02:12:54,480 --> 02:12:59,040 Speaker 1: spring here, based on what we've seen in the Thringta 2686 02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:01,080 Speaker 1: practices that were open to us, and then of course 2687 02:13:01,120 --> 02:13:04,040 Speaker 1: the three mini camp practices, it was mostly Tyrod with 2688 02:13:04,120 --> 02:13:06,520 Speaker 1: the ones. I can't really recall off the top of 2689 02:13:06,600 --> 02:13:08,800 Speaker 1: my head. Baker Mayfield working with the first team, which 2690 02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:11,560 Speaker 1: which is really another factor too, and how he's looked. 2691 02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:14,880 Speaker 1: Obviously Tyrod Taylor's working with better players, and then you 2692 02:13:14,960 --> 02:13:17,840 Speaker 1: know Baker is working with guys down the depth chart 2693 02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:20,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. But he started off third string, he 2694 02:13:20,160 --> 02:13:22,640 Speaker 1: moved up the second string, but from what I saw, 2695 02:13:22,720 --> 02:13:24,680 Speaker 1: he didn't spend any time working with the ones. Now 2696 02:13:24,720 --> 02:13:26,360 Speaker 1: there's a chance maybe he got a little time when 2697 02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:29,760 Speaker 1: we weren't out there during OTAs, but they're bringing him 2698 02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:32,480 Speaker 1: along very slowly in that regard. Dan, last question I 2699 02:13:32,560 --> 02:13:36,120 Speaker 1: have for you is Baker Mayfield's approach, his demeanor. There 2700 02:13:36,160 --> 02:13:39,240 Speaker 1: were they weren't exactly red flags or warning signs, but 2701 02:13:39,760 --> 02:13:41,920 Speaker 1: just prior to the draft, you know, his team, his 2702 02:13:42,040 --> 02:13:46,360 Speaker 1: group sent out messages, messages about what would be available 2703 02:13:46,400 --> 02:13:49,280 Speaker 1: in terms of audio and video from the draft day, 2704 02:13:49,320 --> 02:13:51,760 Speaker 1: and I wondered, would he be okay not being the 2705 02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:53,880 Speaker 1: starter early on in his rookie year. Would he be 2706 02:13:53,960 --> 02:13:56,520 Speaker 1: able to handle maybe not being the center of attention 2707 02:13:56,760 --> 02:13:59,280 Speaker 1: right off the bat in his rookie year. You know, 2708 02:13:59,360 --> 02:14:02,400 Speaker 1: he's been model citizens that he got to Cleveland, and 2709 02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:04,760 Speaker 1: he has said all the right things, and I think 2710 02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:08,400 Speaker 1: he's embracing having Tyrod Taylor and working with Tyrod there. 2711 02:14:08,440 --> 02:14:10,720 Speaker 1: I think he's embracing having a guy like Drew Standing 2712 02:14:11,440 --> 02:14:13,680 Speaker 1: that can kind of help him. You'll almost be another 2713 02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:16,720 Speaker 1: coach to him, a guy on the field with him. 2714 02:14:17,280 --> 02:14:20,560 Speaker 1: Right now, he has said everything right and he's handled 2715 02:14:20,640 --> 02:14:23,200 Speaker 1: himself correctly, and like I said, nothing but a model 2716 02:14:23,240 --> 02:14:25,360 Speaker 1: citizen to this point. I don't really think that's going 2717 02:14:25,400 --> 02:14:28,200 Speaker 1: to change because I think Baker's a smart guy and 2718 02:14:28,480 --> 02:14:31,480 Speaker 1: he knows the situation and the credit to the Browns 2719 02:14:31,560 --> 02:14:35,600 Speaker 1: for being very clear in their plan for him moving forward. 2720 02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:37,680 Speaker 1: He knows his time is going to come. Now. Look 2721 02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:40,440 Speaker 1: if this thing drags on and the team is losing, 2722 02:14:40,960 --> 02:14:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he doesn't love that, but but I 2723 02:14:42,920 --> 02:14:45,919 Speaker 1: don't see Baker being a problem in any sort of situation. 2724 02:14:46,120 --> 02:14:49,680 Speaker 1: I think he's handled this perfectly he's handled it very maturely. 2725 02:14:49,760 --> 02:14:52,480 Speaker 1: And like I said, I mean that I'll say it 2726 02:14:52,560 --> 02:14:54,080 Speaker 1: a third time because it really well popped in my 2727 02:14:54,120 --> 02:14:55,400 Speaker 1: head when he asked a question. He has been a 2728 02:14:55,440 --> 02:14:57,400 Speaker 1: model citizen at this point, and I mean, just say, 2729 02:14:57,440 --> 02:15:00,320 Speaker 1: your answer reminded me of the fact that, all Right, 2730 02:15:00,360 --> 02:15:02,640 Speaker 1: Taylor is a good teammate. I mean, he went through 2731 02:15:02,720 --> 02:15:05,680 Speaker 1: some stuff here, had some roadblocks thrown in his way here, 2732 02:15:05,840 --> 02:15:07,880 Speaker 1: and I know he wasn't happy about it, but he's 2733 02:15:07,880 --> 02:15:10,200 Speaker 1: a good teammate. He handles stuff pretty well. Right. I'm 2734 02:15:10,200 --> 02:15:13,880 Speaker 1: sure he's really good with Baker Mayfield. Yeah, exactly. I mean, 2735 02:15:13,920 --> 02:15:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of a perfect guy to have 2736 02:15:16,280 --> 02:15:17,680 Speaker 1: with Baker. It's not going to be a situation a 2737 02:15:17,760 --> 02:15:19,920 Speaker 1: few years ago when when Johnny Manzel was first year, 2738 02:15:19,920 --> 02:15:22,800 Speaker 1: and obviously Johnny's very different. It was a different situation, 2739 02:15:23,480 --> 02:15:26,880 Speaker 1: but Brian Oyer was here and it was his opportunity 2740 02:15:26,960 --> 02:15:29,760 Speaker 1: in it. He wasn't super helpful with Johnny Manzel. Again, 2741 02:15:29,800 --> 02:15:31,520 Speaker 1: a lot of that was on Manzel and some of 2742 02:15:31,600 --> 02:15:35,440 Speaker 1: his actions, but you don't see that that dynamic here necessarily. 2743 02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:38,600 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor seems to also be kind of embracing his 2744 02:15:38,760 --> 02:15:40,920 Speaker 1: role as a mentor. And you know, even though he wasn't, 2745 02:15:41,240 --> 02:15:43,800 Speaker 1: he didn't necessarily land here by choice. You know, he 2746 02:15:43,960 --> 02:15:46,120 Speaker 1: understands the situation too. And again I think that's the 2747 02:15:46,160 --> 02:15:48,640 Speaker 1: credit to the Browns in the front office for having 2748 02:15:48,680 --> 02:15:51,560 Speaker 1: a plan and being clear with everyone what that plan is. Hey, Dan, 2749 02:15:51,680 --> 02:15:53,600 Speaker 1: thanks for this. It's good stuff. We appreciate you spent 2750 02:15:53,640 --> 02:15:56,040 Speaker 1: a few minutes with us today. Yeah, thanks for having me. 2751 02:15:56,240 --> 02:15:59,200 Speaker 1: Dan Lobby from Cleveland dot com his post from yesterday, 2752 02:15:59,440 --> 02:16:02,240 Speaker 1: the Browns are handling quarterback the right way and other 2753 02:16:02,320 --> 02:16:04,360 Speaker 1: things we learned during minicamp, and Dan joined us on 2754 02:16:04,440 --> 02:16:07,320 Speaker 1: the subway Fresh Take Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh. So there 2755 02:16:07,320 --> 02:16:08,880 Speaker 1: you go, Chris. We checked with all four of the 2756 02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:13,600 Speaker 1: other outposts with first round quarterback drafts. It's remarkably similar. 2757 02:16:13,680 --> 02:16:15,720 Speaker 1: I think, city to city to city to city. Don't 2758 02:16:15,720 --> 02:16:18,800 Speaker 1: you agree? I would? Yeah, And I don't know if 2759 02:16:18,800 --> 02:16:20,800 Speaker 1: I have a better handle on who's got a better 2760 02:16:20,920 --> 02:16:23,800 Speaker 1: chance to start. I really don't. I don't either. It's 2761 02:16:23,880 --> 02:16:26,640 Speaker 1: just we're gonna it is too early. It is too early. Well, 2762 02:16:26,720 --> 02:16:28,400 Speaker 1: let's think about it for the formative break and when 2763 02:16:28,400 --> 02:16:31,280 Speaker 1: we come back, because we should. You know, people have 2764 02:16:31,360 --> 02:16:33,800 Speaker 1: tweeted in their thoughts. Yeah, I mean, I think Josh 2765 02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:36,440 Speaker 1: really will have a good shot here just because of 2766 02:16:36,520 --> 02:16:38,800 Speaker 1: the fact that there is the lack of an established, 2767 02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:44,360 Speaker 1: proven veteran quarterback here on the roster. Let alone has 2768 02:16:44,400 --> 02:16:47,160 Speaker 1: spent more than a year in Buffalo, so I think 2769 02:16:47,240 --> 02:16:52,440 Speaker 1: that plays into his favor. And then you know, you 2770 02:16:52,520 --> 02:16:55,360 Speaker 1: can look at I mean, Joe Flacker was won a 2771 02:16:55,400 --> 02:16:57,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl in Baltimore. I mean that's going to count 2772 02:16:57,520 --> 02:17:02,039 Speaker 1: for something down there. Lamar Jack and playing a starkly 2773 02:17:02,160 --> 02:17:05,959 Speaker 1: different kind of football than Joe Flacco, I think kind 2774 02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:08,520 Speaker 1: of gums up the works a little bit, so to speak. 2775 02:17:08,560 --> 02:17:12,480 Speaker 1: As far as his chances go in Arizona, I still 2776 02:17:12,520 --> 02:17:14,640 Speaker 1: maintain Rosen's got a good chance to win that thing 2777 02:17:15,600 --> 02:17:17,880 Speaker 1: because I think the potential does exist for him to 2778 02:17:17,959 --> 02:17:23,000 Speaker 1: grossly outperform Sam Bradford, you know, depending on how things 2779 02:17:23,080 --> 02:17:25,240 Speaker 1: go in the preseason and his level of exposure with 2780 02:17:25,360 --> 02:17:29,240 Speaker 1: first team offense. So I don't know, if I had 2781 02:17:29,280 --> 02:17:35,040 Speaker 1: to handicap it, I'd probably go I'd probably say I'd 2782 02:17:35,080 --> 02:17:38,080 Speaker 1: probably say Alan and Darnold probably are the two with 2783 02:17:38,200 --> 02:17:41,200 Speaker 1: the best chance to overcome the guys that they're going 2784 02:17:41,320 --> 02:17:45,320 Speaker 1: up against, only because Bridgewater's coming back from a catastrophic injury. 2785 02:17:45,440 --> 02:17:48,840 Speaker 1: Josh McCown's thirty nine, and the two quarterbacks here don't 2786 02:17:48,920 --> 02:17:51,800 Speaker 1: really have firm roots set in Buffalo. Number one and 2787 02:17:51,920 --> 02:17:55,119 Speaker 1: number two don't have a proven resume in the NFL. 2788 02:17:55,560 --> 02:17:56,840 Speaker 1: Got a call out on the line, who it's a 2789 02:17:56,879 --> 02:18:01,959 Speaker 1: different death on this Jay and cheek Twager. Go ahead, Jay, Jay, 2790 02:18:02,720 --> 02:18:06,120 Speaker 1: So are you okay? Just my big take on this is, 2791 02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:08,600 Speaker 1: I honestly think it's going to be Rosen. The main 2792 02:18:08,720 --> 02:18:11,040 Speaker 1: reason why I think it's that it's just because I 2793 02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:13,360 Speaker 1: don't think Bradford's going to be able to stay healthy. 2794 02:18:13,600 --> 02:18:17,120 Speaker 1: I can't do the teams knowing his injury history, are 2795 02:18:17,440 --> 02:18:19,760 Speaker 1: not necessarily going to say take cheap shots at him 2796 02:18:19,800 --> 02:18:21,840 Speaker 1: or anything else like that. But I think that they're 2797 02:18:21,840 --> 02:18:24,560 Speaker 1: going to know his history and they're going to definitely 2798 02:18:24,640 --> 02:18:27,000 Speaker 1: come after him so that this way they can get 2799 02:18:27,080 --> 02:18:30,120 Speaker 1: a rookie in there and possibly, you know, make a 2800 02:18:30,240 --> 02:18:34,160 Speaker 1: rookie beat them. Yeah, that's the reason why many people 2801 02:18:34,320 --> 02:18:38,440 Speaker 1: pick Josh Rosen, the uncertainty about how you know, how 2802 02:18:38,760 --> 02:18:41,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback Bradford will stay healthy, how long he will 2803 02:18:41,760 --> 02:18:45,840 Speaker 1: stay healthy. It was Darren Urban's opinion though, that Rosen 2804 02:18:45,920 --> 02:18:49,760 Speaker 1: would have to decidedly outperform Bradford to win that job. 2805 02:18:50,800 --> 02:18:53,640 Speaker 1: But if Wilkes is talking that way, I don't know 2806 02:18:53,680 --> 02:18:56,240 Speaker 1: if he's got to decide why outperform. It's a tough one. 2807 02:18:56,280 --> 02:18:58,240 Speaker 1: That's why it's a good Twitter pull. It's a good 2808 02:18:58,240 --> 02:19:01,320 Speaker 1: Twitter poll. Today, well review the results of the Twitter 2809 02:19:01,400 --> 02:19:03,360 Speaker 1: pall and we'll review the show when we come back 2810 02:19:03,360 --> 02:19:05,960 Speaker 1: in a moment. One Bill's Live presented by Kalid to 2811 02:19:06,040 --> 02:19:09,080 Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive, and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. 2812 02:19:20,120 --> 02:19:23,119 Speaker 1: What have we learned? Presented by Advanced Alarm providing Western 2813 02:19:23,200 --> 02:19:25,800 Speaker 1: New York's homes and businesses with the Finance and Security 2814 02:19:25,800 --> 02:19:28,760 Speaker 1: and Home Theater, the preferred alarm at home theater provider 2815 02:19:28,800 --> 02:19:31,000 Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. We talked a lot of rookie 2816 02:19:31,080 --> 02:19:35,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks to day, including Baltimore with Lamar Jackson. We talked 2817 02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:38,600 Speaker 1: with mister Appercio from w NST Radio in Baltimore and 2818 02:19:38,720 --> 02:19:41,560 Speaker 1: he talked about Jackson and his chances of starting some 2819 02:19:41,680 --> 02:19:45,520 Speaker 1: games for the Ravens this year. You know, this is 2820 02:19:45,560 --> 02:19:47,920 Speaker 1: a kid that have passed over by every other team 2821 02:19:47,920 --> 02:19:49,920 Speaker 1: in the Lake had beating a quarterback. I don't know 2822 02:19:50,080 --> 02:19:53,920 Speaker 1: that anyone looked at him and said he's my franchise quarterback. 2823 02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:56,840 Speaker 1: Nor did the Ravens to pass on him three different 2824 02:19:56,879 --> 02:19:59,720 Speaker 1: times and trading back. Literally, the Ravens sat on the 2825 02:20:00,120 --> 02:20:03,080 Speaker 1: at sixteen, twenty two or twenty five and never took him. 2826 02:20:03,200 --> 02:20:05,640 Speaker 1: It took a tight end instead. So it's felt like 2827 02:20:05,760 --> 02:20:08,600 Speaker 1: he was necessarily the apple of their eye. But I 2828 02:20:08,720 --> 02:20:10,800 Speaker 1: think they'd like his a let a system. I think 2829 02:20:10,840 --> 02:20:13,920 Speaker 1: they liked his ability to play within the offense before 2830 02:20:14,040 --> 02:20:16,000 Speaker 1: he could be a quarterback, and I think maybe three 2831 02:20:16,080 --> 02:20:17,800 Speaker 1: or four years from now they think maybe he could 2832 02:20:17,879 --> 02:20:20,160 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. But I don't think anybody thinks 2833 02:20:20,240 --> 02:20:22,480 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's a short thing. If they did, he would 2834 02:20:22,480 --> 02:20:25,279 Speaker 1: have been taken a lot earlier. Okay, that's Nestor Apperco 2835 02:20:25,360 --> 02:20:27,520 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson down in Baltimore. We also talked with 2836 02:20:27,680 --> 02:20:30,280 Speaker 1: our buddy Eric Allen, who covers the Jets for New 2837 02:20:30,360 --> 02:20:33,000 Speaker 1: York Jets dot Com. We asked him about Sam Darnold, 2838 02:20:33,040 --> 02:20:35,520 Speaker 1: the Jets first rounder, and how he looked during OTAs 2839 02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:40,080 Speaker 1: in mini camp. Yees top Ball said, as we enter 2840 02:20:40,160 --> 02:20:45,040 Speaker 1: training camp, Josh McCown will be the starter and Teddy 2841 02:20:45,080 --> 02:20:48,360 Speaker 1: Bridgewater they're the number two with Sam Darnold the number three, 2842 02:20:48,480 --> 02:20:51,080 Speaker 1: But Darnold's got some the ruts with the first team 2843 02:20:51,160 --> 02:20:54,680 Speaker 1: throughout to spring, much like Josh Allen did. Saron bust Lill, 2844 02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:58,320 Speaker 1: I'd say, I, you know, just reading what you guys 2845 02:20:58,360 --> 02:21:00,640 Speaker 1: are putting out and also be out here on the 2846 02:21:00,720 --> 02:21:03,560 Speaker 1: practice field with the Jets, I would say Darnold probably 2847 02:21:03,600 --> 02:21:07,480 Speaker 1: got more action with the first team, but right now 2848 02:21:08,000 --> 02:21:11,680 Speaker 1: he'll answer training camp as the number three and some 2849 02:21:11,800 --> 02:21:13,640 Speaker 1: of it. Hey, listen, we'll see what it is that 2850 02:21:13,760 --> 02:21:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm a training camp because any one of these three 2851 02:21:16,560 --> 02:21:19,240 Speaker 1: to win the job. That's a story from the Jets. 2852 02:21:19,320 --> 02:21:22,240 Speaker 1: We also talked with Darren Irbert about the Cardinals and 2853 02:21:22,320 --> 02:21:25,080 Speaker 1: Dan Lobby about Cleveland and our Twitter poll today, it 2854 02:21:25,240 --> 02:21:28,920 Speaker 1: seems like most of our respondents on Twitter, I think 2855 02:21:28,959 --> 02:21:31,120 Speaker 1: it's going to be the Jets that start their rookie first, 2856 02:21:31,320 --> 02:21:35,160 Speaker 1: Sam Arnold first. On Twitter, when we asked the question, 2857 02:21:36,120 --> 02:21:39,720 Speaker 1: rich rocky quarterback gets a chance to start first? Forty 2858 02:21:39,760 --> 02:21:42,960 Speaker 1: three percent of the Twitter respondent say Sam Darnold, twenty 2859 02:21:43,040 --> 02:21:46,320 Speaker 1: percent say Josh Allen here in Buffalo, twenty percent say 2860 02:21:46,480 --> 02:21:49,000 Speaker 1: either Josh Rosen and Lamar Jackson. We lumped him together. 2861 02:21:49,280 --> 02:21:53,600 Speaker 1: Seventy percent say Baker Mayfield, I would have almost guessed 2862 02:21:53,600 --> 02:21:55,320 Speaker 1: the other way around. I would have guess Baker Mayfield 2863 02:21:55,400 --> 02:21:57,560 Speaker 1: might have gotten some consideration are and I don't know 2864 02:21:57,560 --> 02:22:02,400 Speaker 1: if that's a salute to Tyrod Taylor and his ability. 2865 02:22:02,480 --> 02:22:04,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know why Darnald gets that much. I guess, 2866 02:22:05,320 --> 02:22:07,680 Speaker 1: like you say, Chris, Darnald and Allen and are in 2867 02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:11,920 Speaker 1: similar positions on teams that don't have an immediate answer 2868 02:22:12,000 --> 02:22:13,920 Speaker 1: right in front of him at quarterback right right. I 2869 02:22:13,959 --> 02:22:16,160 Speaker 1: would agree with that, but yeah, you look at I 2870 02:22:16,200 --> 02:22:18,560 Speaker 1: didn't realize Cleveland's first two games of the Steelers and 2871 02:22:18,600 --> 02:22:22,240 Speaker 1: the Saints. Woof, thanks a lot for that one. Have 2872 02:22:22,400 --> 02:22:24,320 Speaker 1: fun with that one, Tyrod. That's gonna be a tough 2873 02:22:24,680 --> 02:22:27,720 Speaker 1: first two weeks for them, no question. And for the Belt. 2874 02:22:27,760 --> 02:22:29,640 Speaker 1: You know, it might be the answer is Buffalo again, 2875 02:22:29,840 --> 02:22:32,400 Speaker 1: maybe none of these guys, you know, No, it doesn't 2876 02:22:32,440 --> 02:22:35,199 Speaker 1: look like anybody's targeted to start the opening day anyway. 2877 02:22:35,240 --> 02:22:37,800 Speaker 1: But maybe it's Josh Allen who gets a chance to 2878 02:22:37,840 --> 02:22:40,400 Speaker 1: start first. I could be easily persuaded to that. But 2879 02:22:40,480 --> 02:22:42,680 Speaker 1: I thought it was an interesting Twitter poll and an 2880 02:22:42,720 --> 02:22:46,000 Speaker 1: interesting topic today, Chris, because again, and I've said this 2881 02:22:46,080 --> 02:22:48,680 Speaker 1: couple times. Now, it seems almost remarkable that all these 2882 02:22:48,720 --> 02:22:51,640 Speaker 1: teams are in very similar situations now with what they have, 2883 02:22:51,800 --> 02:22:54,280 Speaker 1: and not just with the rookie but the veterans on 2884 02:22:54,400 --> 02:22:56,880 Speaker 1: the roster. And what we all have to remember is, 2885 02:22:57,080 --> 02:23:00,400 Speaker 1: come training camp, an awful lot can change. Because I 2886 02:23:00,480 --> 02:23:03,760 Speaker 1: remember two years ago, Carson Wentz was not supposed to 2887 02:23:03,760 --> 02:23:05,760 Speaker 1: be the starter. It was going to be Sam Bradford, 2888 02:23:06,040 --> 02:23:09,600 Speaker 1: and then Teddy Bridgewater's leg almost literally fell off, and 2889 02:23:09,879 --> 02:23:12,560 Speaker 1: they're shipping Bradford up to Minnesota for a first round pick, 2890 02:23:12,640 --> 02:23:14,840 Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz is on the field. So a lot 2891 02:23:14,879 --> 02:23:17,119 Speaker 1: can happen, all right, Chris, thank you. Chris is back 2892 02:23:17,160 --> 02:23:19,160 Speaker 1: with us tomorrow on the show. We're here noon to 2893 02:23:19,240 --> 02:23:21,320 Speaker 1: three tomorrow. We'll talk more quarterbacks tomorrow. I think that's 2894 02:23:21,320 --> 02:23:25,359 Speaker 1: a good idea. Production assistance George Blast, Jeff Coltnick Thomas, Homilder, 2895 02:23:25,440 --> 02:23:29,160 Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, Jjjurito, Kevin Cargis, and James robil Our, Producer 2896 02:23:29,320 --> 02:23:31,800 Speaker 1: Jay Harris. We'll see tomorrow at twelve noon with One 2897 02:23:31,840 --> 02:23:34,640 Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. 2898 02:23:35,040 --> 02:23:37,120 Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio