WEBVTT - Quan Martin + Kay Adams + Champ Bailey Back Home for Week 5! | Next Man Up | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:01.200 Command Is Family. 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:03.680 This is the Next Man Up Podcast, and we have 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:04.600 special guests for you. 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:05.960 We have Kwan Martin. 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:08.440 We have to go back a little bit to Arizona 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:10.960 where me and Kwan Martin caught up before the world 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.400 trip handed. Then we have a true legend Hall of 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.279 Famer first Ballot Hall of Famer Champ Bailey joins the 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:19.200 show to talk about his time in Washington and our 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:21.560 happy year is to be back in the fall. Then 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:23.880 we got to get some national love. 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This is Next Man Up. 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.839 I'm your host, Blind Cope Junior here with somebody extremely special, 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:48.120 Kwan Martin, my brother. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:48.279 Man. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:48.880 It's good to see you. 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:49.680 Appreciate you man. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.280 I think last time we sat down like this, you. 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:58.160 K like ota yeah, man, like yeah, like ten months 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.520 ago type stuff, like you you are really your rookie 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:02.200 and like things have changed for you. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.080 Tell us what has changed for you in year two 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:05.600 since that last time we spoke. 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.800 Really man, Just being able to learn, grow, develop, you know, 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.240 just kind of find my way in the league. And uh, 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.280 you know, just get in while I fit there pretty much, man, 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.040 and just really just building that name, making that name 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:18.520 for myself. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.080 Yeah, and you really fit in well. 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:20.280 Man. 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.640 You know you're getting a lot of love. You were 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:26.279 named the captain for Arizona. What does that mean to you? 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:27.280 Were you surprised? 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:32.120 I don't know, because I was captain during the preseason 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:36.680 and I kind of felt the coming. And today in 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:38.760 the meeting, he was like, I got a captain. I 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.360 was like, damn, I gotta feel that he might call me. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.200 I kind of felt the coming a little bit, so 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.760 you know, it was great man, just to you know, 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:47.880 hear my name come up, see my you know picture 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:49.560 up on the board, and coach just telling me, you 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:50.720 know that I'm counting for this game. 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:52.680 That means a lot, you know this stuff. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.680 I talk about my family all the time, man, just 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.639 you know, just trying to set an example for everybody, uh, 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.960 you know, back where I'm from, kids in my neighborhood. Man, 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:02.680 just you know, showing me that you can do it. 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.080 You know it is possible. And man, you know, it's 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:07.720 just a great opportunity to go out there and representing 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:08.200 this program. 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.399 And you even played since you were five years old, man, 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.160 So to have that seat on your jersey, Man, what 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:14.280 does that mean to you? 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:15.560 I mean it means a lot. 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:15.839 Man. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.760 My first time really just being the captain and since 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.160 I've been playing, man, so it's been great. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:22.440 Man. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:24.720 Never had the opportunity in college to. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.320 Be, you know, captain on the team. So just to 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.720 be a captain at this level just you know, kind 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:30.600 of speak to herself. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.560 I think what's so special about that is this is 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.760 a new coaching staff. This is not a coaching. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.840 Staff that drafted you. They didn't keep a lot of 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.480 people around, but you not only was kept, but you 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.720 also were named the starter. What is it like to 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:44.600 get that kind of respect before you even played a 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:45.440 regular season game? 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:46.959 Yeah, Man, it means a lot. 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.080 You know. Obviously we talked with you know, coach Quinn 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.880 and Adam Peters, you know, before things kind of got rolling, 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.880 and you know, he just kind of told me where 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:57.280 my role could be on this team. Man. 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:58.160 I embraced it. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:02:58.440 Man. 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.880 I just went out work hard, put my head down 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.519 and just kept grinding. Man, and you know just kind 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.120 of you know, made it impossible to go and noticed. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.359 I feel like that's what I've always done my whole. 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.600 Career, and I'm sure that there's different expectations that come 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.360 with happening in your coaching staff. And I remember you 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.440 saying preseason that the coaches want you to be more vocal. 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:17.840 How's that been so far? Because you're very chi. 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:21.040 Man, it's been great. 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.520 I feel like not even just coach Quinn, but really 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.560 just everybody in the building just you know, pushing me 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.400 to be more vocal. Bobby Wagner, you know, everybody just 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.280 standing on me, man when they know that time they 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.160 couldn't really hear me on the field. So Coach Quinn 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.320 always said like would you want to be led by you? 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.160 So you know, like when he say that, I'm like okay, 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.840 like like let me make sure I'm getting the calls 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.200 out everybody can hear him, and I just show my 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:45.160 leadership on the field. 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.440 You told me last time we sat and spoke, you 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.800 said that will motivate you as being overlooked, you were 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:54.600 under recruited even playing your whole life right even. 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:55.240 The second round pick. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:56.600 You know, I'm sure you feel like you're supposed to 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.360 go on the first So what motivates you now? Because 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.480 now you're getting recognition now you're getting in love now. 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.320 People are really starting to see who you are. So 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:04.200 what motivates you now? 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:04.840 Really? 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:05.080 Man? 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.400 Just this team, the guys around me, and uh, just 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.240 not want to let the team down, man, And uh, 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.480 just trying to put my best feel forward. And you know, 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.280 just knowing that these coaches believe in me and my 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.320 teammates believe in me, and uh, you know, I'm just 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:19.200 gonna go out and get him my best every play, 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.040 every down, every game. And I feel like it shows. 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.039 You've got a new rerunnament in Jeremy Chin. And I'm 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.240 sure you hadn't seen it, but I spoke to him. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:27.880 And we had a moment. It was very weird. 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.160 I'm not gonna lost wars off the but Jeremy Chin 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.000 is like, I'm pissed off and he's got real, real 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.719 angry Like playing next to a guy like that that 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:37.880 really like he locks in when. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:38.560 He's on that field. 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.240 Man, he's been you know, somebody I've looked up to 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.599 since day one. Man, Just you know how he carris 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.039 yourself in the building, how he handles itself on the 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.479 practice field. So they're just kind of taking a little 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.720 things for him, and he don't really even know, but 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.120 you know, I'm peeping you know everything he's doing. You 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:54.920 know how he handled every situation. 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:55.240 Man. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.520 So I've really learned a lot from that dude. And 0:04:58.440 --> 0:04:59.800 you know, he's just been that voice for me, that 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.520 you're for me, that leader, and you know, you've just 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.320 been pushing me to communicate more, like I said, And 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.080 it's been great man to play alongside him. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.040 Yeah, we had an event where it was me, you 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:10.800 and Jeremy Channing. 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:12.599 During that event, you said something I thought was very 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.560 interesting because it didn't really dawn on me. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:16.760 But this is really your first time getting to focus 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:18.120 on one position. You said. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.360 You're like, man, this is my first time not having 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.919 to be all overfield. Man, why why is that so 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:24.400 important to you this season? And why has it been 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:25.200 so beneficial for. 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.000 I Just feel like, you know, it allowed me to 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:32.800 reach my full potential. You know, I can do it 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:34.720 but just float around everywhere, man, I feel like it's 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.320 kind of hard to really just lock in on the 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.760 small details at each and every position. But yeah, man, 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.039 it's just been special for me. And I talked to 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.719 my mom, my parents, my girlfriend, every everybody about you know, 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.680 just the focus that comes with you know, playing a position, 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:51.320 and the coaches, like I said, they just pushed me 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:53.600 to be more vocal, be that leader and just be 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:55.160 that voice on this defensive. 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:56.360 And you've been so special this year. 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.560 Man, I can't wait to see what you do Sunday 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:02.480 against the the Browns. We'll be back home again. It'll 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:03.640 be your first time back home. We've been on a 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.880 little road trip. The fans have showed up and showed 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:07.760 out for us. Man on this road, we've seen them 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.440 so much. And then at the home game, it was crazy, Man, 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.760 How excited you to see those fans again after being. 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:13.400 On the road for so long. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.080 Man, Super excited, Man, just to go in and play 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:17.920 another home game. 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:18.560 Uh. 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.000 I like the fans. They've they've been, you know, pretty excited, 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.960 you know with everything going on in the building with 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.640 the program and uh, you know, I just fly. You know, 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.360 it's time for us to take that next step and 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.599 uh just get a fans what they want to see. 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.240 And Kwama has been great seeing you developed. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:33.400 Man. 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:34.880 Man can't wait to see you out on that field. Brother, 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:36.720 appreciate your time, Appreciate. 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.760 You now command this family. Have to bring in a 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.159 very special friend of mine. She pulled up for training 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.039 camp and saw all the great things we were doing 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.120 out here, and it's continued to show the Burgundy and 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:50.919 Gold a lot of national love. Now Command is family. 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.360 It's not always the next man up. Sometimes it's the 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:58.159 next woman. For the first time, we have a woman 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.000 on the show, so we're gonna call it next Woman. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:00.360 It up. 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.799 She is from national media. She has a big time show. 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.960 Welcoming in Kay Adams. How are you doing. 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.640 I'm so great, next woman, I'd like to do this. 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:10.960 Yes, we love it. 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.480 We love and talk about we'd like to talk about, 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.320 you know, our past, what got us here. And just 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:17.840 like me, we don't end up in our seats, right, 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.400 We don't end up doing what we do unless we 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.800 love the game of football. So you tell me when 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.240 did you find your love for football? 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:25.480 Oh man? 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.880 I started to love football growing up in Chicago. I 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:32.760 was raised by two Polish immigrants who'd never heard of football, 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.480 and the Bears were very good or competitive, and me 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.400 and my brother just wanted to figure out what's like 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:44.080 the most American communal, bring everybody together thing everybody's talking about. 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.040 We of course had the bulls at that point with 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.240 Michael Jordan, but still football was huge in Chicago, so 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.200 you know, we had Matt Forte and we had Devin 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:55.280 Hester to root for as I was growing up, and then. 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.240 I really liked fantasy football. If you were really. 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.760 Asking me, like, at what point was I like, I 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.400 love this. It's the fact that I'm really competitive. So 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.720 and I got in my first year drafted my team, 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.320 didn't really know the players very well, learned about them. 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.400 I won my league the first year I played. But 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.360 I think, like I'm trying to think of who it was. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.520 Matt Fourte was definitely on my team, and at that 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.360 point it was you have this wealth of knowledge about 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:20.400 thirty two teams and all these different players, not just 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.080 the fifty three in your hometown. And I love that 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.000 and the competitive nature of it. And I think that 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.720 just the storylines of it and getting my heart broken 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.120 watching the Bears and to the cults after that Devin 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.240 Hester trutch down like that sort of is where it. 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:32.960 Snapped my heart. 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.640 But similarly to you, you know what you're saying, you 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.880 have to love the game. I love celebrating the game. 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:43.080 I love that I'm still at this point curious about 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.240 absolutely everything, every team, every storyline, and that's really what's 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.280 driven me to keep loving it as much as I do. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.079 And I'm sure that's what keeps you so interesting when 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.000 you do these interviews, when you talk because you have 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.280 you know, you're inquisitive, you want to know things, and 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.640 we see some great stuff. And you actually were here 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.760 during training camp. You had the chance to go to 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.479 every think like twelve or fourteen like spots. 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:05.319 How many thank you? 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:06.400 Twenty? 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.520 Oh my goodness, twenty different training camps and you came 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.240 to kick it with us. It was so hot, it 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.640 was just the day. What you got to see what 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:16.400 a lot of people are seeing now. You got to 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.280 see Jaden Daniels and company and see what they could do. 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.400 When you were back here in training camp, did you 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.200 really like see what was going to be happening? Did 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.079 you have a feeling that hey, commanders a brot to 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:26.720 do something special. 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.720 I thought he was how he looked out there, and 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.680 I liked his and that's what I still like now. 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.840 I just liked his composure. I liked how he was 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:39.800 carrying himself out there. But I will say my big 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.040 take of meeting you and you brought a lot of 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.360 energy to our life on up and atoms in that trip. 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:46.000 But it was so hot. 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:47.880 I remember, we were so well taken care of by 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:52.960 the commanders. My takeaway was, oh, man, they don't want 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:54.000 me to blow up their spot. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:55.560 My thought was. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.840 And I sat with Dan Quinn for twenty minutes, and 0:09:57.880 --> 0:09:59.800 I sat with pain and I, you know, got to 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.600 ha you know, the no part of Johan Dutson and 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.880 every Bobby Wagner who I've known for. 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:05.960 Years and years and years. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:11.079 The sort of takeaway was like, don't like, don't talk 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.600 about us. You know, at that point Dkey was unwilling 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.400 to name Jaden the starter, and I was like, oh, no, 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:17.160 is that a bad thing? 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:17.839 Is that a good thing? 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.160 But it was all a really thoughtful, methodical way of 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.400 carrying out this vision that they've all had. And I 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.320 really took away this kid is special and they don't 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.040 want anybody to know about it until week one. Of course, 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:31.959 you sawated in college and we know that he's a 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.440 special player, but he's sort of a one on one 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.400 player as well, So I knew. I knew it was 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.160 a secret they were trying to keep a lid on. 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:39.800 That's what I know. 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.319 Okay, we appreciation you keeping that secret for us. But 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.480 now that the speakers down now we know what we 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:46.400 have in jayde Dane's real quickly. So you talked to 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.080 dan Quinn that I'll talk to a lot of cultures 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.320 during your tour. What about dan Quinn stood out to you? 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.680 I think he never gets enough credit for what a 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:58.760 transcendent leader he is. And it's not always superstars. He's 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.440 somebody whether you have a that you know, he's somebody 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:03.400 that you know. Aaron Rodgers, I think he could coach him, 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.000 while I think you can coach you. I'm rookie like 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.400 Jayden Daniels and everything in between, and not every coach 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:07.920 is like that. 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:10.360 He is so thoughtful. 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:12.480 I believe that would be a word that I would 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.400 use to describe him. As far as a leadership style, 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:19.200 I think he's very organized and mindful about what he 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.440 wants to execute, what Jaden needs, what these veterans need 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.160 in the messaging. He's always been like that back even 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.280 when I knew him with the Falcons. It was about mottos, 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.720 it was about buying in. It's about toughness, high energy, 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:32.560 and that's the kind of coaching that's really working in 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:33.560 the NFL right now. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:34.920 He had so much success. 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.839 Of course, Matt Ryan MVP ye or MVP candidate, and 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.720 now we see what he's doing with Jaden and as 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.080 special as Jayden is, we have to give Dann credit 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:43.280 for that. 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.440 And I love talking to people like you. Go are outside, right, 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.240 you're in the national media, so you're not here. I'm 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.080 drinking the kool aid every day. So me, I'm going 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:51.480 to be feeling good. I'm going to be feeling like 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.520 we're going to be winning every single game because that's 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:54.400 my job to do that. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.720 But you you're in the national media on the outside. 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:58.680 So you tell me at three and one, right now, 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.319 how do you feel about the lost Commander is always 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:01.600 for real? 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.560 Oh, you know, it's so funny because you're on the inside. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.240 But I'm friends with Kevin Durant. Now you know over 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:11.120 on FanDuel he is the biggest Commander's fan. I will 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:15.320 say it's a very interesting experience to have. Sometimes, you know, 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:19.040 teams really buy into their hype. Sometimes fans enjoy it, 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.040 which is actually really rare. And then sometimes fans are 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:23.960 really demanding and the Bears are like that, you know, 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.040 like they're not giving Caleb much patience. 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:26.920 Much of that. 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.319 Commanders are different. I think it's a fan base that's 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.480 waited for it so long. On the outside is very 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.199 fun to see guys like Kevin Durant or some fans, 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.120 some celebrity fans, Guys that I've known for a long time, 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:40.920 Women that I've known for a long time who have 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:44.040 never told me that their Commanders fans are like, thanks 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.760 for saying that about my Commanders, and I'm like, you're Commanders, 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.640 and they're like, no lifelong fan, but for whatever reason, 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.640 I don't even know about it. So there's certainly this 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.080 excitement that I'm feeling known when it comes to ball. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.880 Absolutely they should be considered a contender on up and 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.959 atoms today and talking about where DeVante Adams should go. 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.000 So I had a list of contenders, and among those 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.320 kind of boys, sorry, and among the Jets and the 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.280 reuniting with you know, Aaron Rodgers, I put the Commanders 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.880 because that's a team that has the space, the need. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.040 They were interested in Brandon Nayuk and what I'm saying 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.240 more about the holistic big part of it is that's 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.640 a team that I would love to make that move 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.880 because it shows you just how all in they are 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:23.680 for this year. 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:25.920 And I love that because we know you're a Devonte 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:27.880 Adams for it, right. We know that you guys are good, 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:29.880 so I'm hoping they're giving him a little bit of 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.120 extra Like, hey man, you know, Burning and Gold ain't 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:33.920 too bad. You know, maybe we talked to the ages 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.480 that make that happen, but you just were part of 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.160 this Davante Adams debacle right now. 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:40.920 We don't want to speculate on where he will go. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.400 However, I find it very I admire it because I 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.960 understand what it's like, right, having these personal relationship with players, 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:48.760 but then having to do our jobs as well. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:49.920 How tough is it. 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.600 Knowing that, like y'all would have a regular conversation about 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.240 this and this and that, but then having to do 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.040 your job in a way where you can't really spill 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.120 the beans on what a player like that's going to do. 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.680 But you guys have a relationship where you probably kind 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:01.240 of know where. 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:01.800 His heads really is. 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.120 I'm just as curious as everybody else to see what happened. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:07.280 I said it on my show this morning. 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:08.920 I think I want I know that I want him 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:10.360 to be happy, and I want him to be playing 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.439 meaningful football, and I want him to get a ring. 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.560 I think he deserves it. I think it'd be so 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:15.960 nice if he made. 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.720 The move to secure the bag and be with his 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:20.600 old quarterback and it didn't work out, and now the 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.680 move gets made where he does get to contend on 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:26.520 the team. I think last week I asked him about 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.840 Jayden Daniels before a lot of this was going on, 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.000 and he was emphatic. He went so far as to say, 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.560 and I do think DeVante Adams a very easy interview, 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:38.480 very honest, very he doesn't think about it, He's already 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.320 thought about the question. He sort of knows the line 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:45.000 of questioning in his head. And he's a true adult, 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.960 like a true adult in the way he carries himself 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.720 and always has. So it's a very easy interview because 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.200 sometimes you worry about how a question is going to 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.200 be taken, or how to ask a question in a 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.120 way that's going to be respectful, or to get the 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.680 information you want, where I don't really have that with Davante. 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.840 I really can ask him anything and I know he'll 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.680 understand what I'm he'll say what he's going to say, 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.680 which he has this entire time. But I asked him 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.320 about Jaden and I was a little surprised. I didn't 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.240 think I'd get as emphatic of a response where he 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:17.960 said man, I thought, well, you know, I think he's 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.280 sort of joking saying, man, I you know if he'd 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.040 fallen to us, if only he had fallen to the Raiders, 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.400 and you know, the Internet had their way with that. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.600 But really what he's saying is, I'm seeing how special 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.160 this young player is that me at my age I 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.600 would love to play with him. I see his skills 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.680 like Evets don't give Brookies love like that. They just don't. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.880 So that's all you needed to hear from a guy 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:40.560 like Adam's on this. But as far as where he's 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.640 going to go, wouldn't that be wild to have him there? 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:43.720 Like? 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.600 Absolutely wild. I can't even imagine what that city would 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:46.840 be like. 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.400 It would make my job a lot more. You tell 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.640 you about job's already extremely interesting. So you talk about 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.080 these places that DeVante AM's may fit. So let's talk 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.120 about the Commanders. Why do you think why was he 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.160 Why would the Commanders on your list of places he 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:00.960 would be a good fit for. 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:02.960 I think because a lot of it is. 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.400 I think Adam Peters did a really good job of 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:07.720 foundationally getting this team to where it needs to be. 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:09.360 And when you're sitting there at three in a run 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.320 and you're looking at the complexion of the division that 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:15.240 you're in, and you feel the confidence that Cliff Kingsbury 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.480 brings you and that this young quarterback brings you, like, 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:18.920 where's the time to waste? 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.400 Sort of a situation. And we heard the rumors. I'm 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:22.280 sure you did as well. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.840 You know more than I do about their interests in 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.920 Brandon Ayuk in the off season. They were, you know, interesting, 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.800 if they were asking or interest in acquiring him, why 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.680 would they not feel that way with DeVante Adams? So 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.120 that sort of made sense. I think Adam Peters has 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.120 it in him. It takes a certain sort of GM 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.960 to feel supported by his ownership group and to feel 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.000 like the coaching is here right now, in the here 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:45.600 and now to make it happen. And it sort of 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:47.280 seems like it's all working right now and I couldn't 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:47.960 be more excited. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.440 Hey, I love your energy and optimism on it. I 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.720 guess we'll just have to wait and see. Just like you, 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:54.720 I have no insider info, but just like the rest 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.240 of the four, do. 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:58.920 You need him? 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:00.960 It's a great question, That's how I asked me to ask, 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:02.880 because to me, it's like get a weapon, you get 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.880 a weapon, right. However, I love the receivers, the tight ends, 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:07.639 I love the weapons we already have in the building, 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:08.280 and we three. 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.400 And one, so it's hard to say we need really anything. 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.040 Yeah, I would just say, like if you don't get 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.720 them and it goes to the Jets or you don't 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.159 want to go to the Cowboys and and CD, that 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:16.560 we don't want. 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:17.160 We don't want that. 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.120 If we're Washington, if you. 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.000 Know, if it goes somewhere and you don't get him 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:22.720 like Sill, I wouldn't cry about it if I was 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:23.800 Washington Nott right now. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.359 Yeah, right, there's so many other things to be optimistic about, 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:27.919 and you don't really see that like here, like you 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.800 always want that big name free agent, like people freak. 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:31.040 Out about it. 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.040 But now that things are going so well, people are 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.240 kind of chilling, like, oh, you know, if it happens, happens, 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.040 you know, it's a different type of energy. 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:37.200 Ink. 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:38.919 I know you're busy. I know you got a lot 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:40.399 of people in your CAREB right now. I appreciate you 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.800 taking the time World War question for before we go, 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:44.399 we have the Cleveland Browns and I'm not sure if 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.840 you went to Cleveland during your training camp visits. However, 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.000 I do know you're very familiar with all NFL teams, 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.520 So ask you what kind of challenges does a team 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.920 like the Cleveland Browns pose for the Commanders. Yes, we 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:57.760 know they're struggling right now, however, they still have a 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.400 gotten to Shaun Watson that can get it done. 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.320 I got to be honest, I don't think it's a challenge. 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.000 And I hope that this I obviously don't want this. 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.120 Commanders seem to be looking past them, but this should 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.480 be a team that's looking and staring down you know, 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.200 four and one, by being consistent, by having Jaden be 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.239 as special as he is. And I would say, I 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.639 really don't see the challenge. I feel like the Browns 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:21.080 are inconsistent and they what they lack is what the 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:24.120 Commanders have, and that's confidence and that's poise. And you're 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:28.320 seeing a very lack of confidence on that offense with 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.240 the Browns. And I would say, I would say that 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.320 the most impressive thing I've seen. I mean, there's obviously 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.560 lots to be excited about with the Commander's offense, but 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:38.960 Jayden and will he he doesn't do it often, but 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:40.639 he made a mistake, you know, and once when he 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:42.960 makes a mistake, that's when I'm watching. I'm saying, oh boy, 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.080 how is he going to handle himself? How's and for 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:50.200 him to just no problem pull it together. That is veteran, 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.639 that is poised. That is I'm not afraid that if 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.000 he turns the ball over that he's not getting it back. 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:57.320 Cheering on his defense and he's going to go right 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.480 down and score. We've seen that now and I think 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.560 that gives that gives them the edge going into this game, and. 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.760 It better not be close. Commanders, Jay, I love. 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.320 The optimism, and you know what, it sounds like, we're 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.520 starting to make you a Burgundy and Gold fan slowly. 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:11.879 But Chirley, you don't got to change your family yet. 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:13.720 We don't bring you up on this side. 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.440 I wanted to go to a game so bad. 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.000 I was supposed to come for the Giants opener, and 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:20.880 then I wasn't able to come, And now I'm really 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.119 really trying to get down there. But but yes, just 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:26.200 so everybody knows, Kevin Durant comes on up in Adams 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.680 and he told me he's picking the commanders every week. 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:29.280 That he comes out. 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.560 He's a true like a like a sick pup level fan. 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:34.960 So and I'm sure everybody out there knows that as well. 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:37.119 So he will be cheering on the Commanders and I 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:38.199 will be helping be the. 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:38.840 Hype girl too. 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:41.439 Hey, we love that. Hopefully you can get kick on 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:42.360 next man up as well. 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:43.159 We have y'all both on. 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.480 We love the Burgundy and gold love Kate, thank you 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:47.320 so much for your time. 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:48.639 It's always we appreciate you. 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:50.760 I love seeing what you're doing with Uppen Adams and 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:52.760 just you just you're just a shooting star taking off. 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:53.960 So thank You's amazing. 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.600 You have the bad vibes in the business that should 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.480 be on your little undertitle. 0:19:58.520 --> 0:19:58.720 Here. 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.760 I take Friday and that I'll take. Hey, I'll take 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.119 you take I promise this. 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.400 Man commanded family, y'all. Next moving up from up in Adams, 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:09.440 Hey Adams, thank you so much, Key. 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.400 Command this family for our next man up. 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:15.800 You know, we love to bring in a legend and 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:19.520 this one is a true legend. Fifteen years in the 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:24.480 NFL Hall of Fame, career holds so many records for 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.600 a defensive back. Was drafted here in the first round, 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:31.760 seventh overall and it's just a true legend, one of 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:33.760 the best to ever do it in this game. Welcome 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:36.960 me in, Champ Bailey. My boy got the lok saw. 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:38.720 He's comfee. You feeling good? 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:41.960 Yeah, man, thanks for having me. Man, I'm chilling. 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:42.640 Oh man. 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:44.720 It's a blessing to have you. And we have so 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.119 much to talk about. But I want to start in 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:48.879 the beginning. Man, I want to start in the beginning. 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:53.560 When you got drafted to Washington. That was a while ago. 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.679 But take us back there. What was young Champ Bailey 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.840 feeling thinking being drafted so high, going in the first round, 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:01.520 accomplishing those dreams? 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:05.080 Yeah, man, twenty five years ago. You know, I think 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.440 back then, man, I just wanted to play ball. 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:11.440 That's all that. Man, when you're young. 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.680 I was twenty years old and they called by name, 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.920 you know, sort of a dramatic draft. 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:20.480 But at that time, I was just I just wanted to. 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.679 Play ball, and I was fortunate enough to come to 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:28.320 a team that, you know, a story franchise, the hottest 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:29.480 division in football. 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.240 It just it worked out perfectly. 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.960 And then you know, the people I got to connect with, 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:36.520 that's a whole other story. 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:39.640 It's not every day, a rookie comes in and has 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.640 a locker room right next to Daryl Green, and then 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.560 I locker right next to Deon Sanders. Those are Hall 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:47.320 of Fame players and you're coming in and getting that 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:48.320 pedigree right away. 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:51.960 How valuable was that for young chat Bailey? Well? 0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:53.159 Very valuable. 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:55.760 Well, if you remember, it was just Darren at first, 0:21:56.280 --> 0:22:01.359 and you know, our defensive back coach, Tom Hayes really 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:05.200 just put me under Dal's wing and and Drell taught 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:09.159 me only he could, right, it was it was. It 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.000 was interesting because we were two different type of players 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.399 as far as how we were built, you know, the 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:17.600 things we could do. You know, I was a press corner. 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:21.560 He was off, you know, just staying step for step 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:22.320 with guys. 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:23.080 That was his mo. 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:28.520 But the things I learned from him were crucial to 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:33.400 the early part of my career. I mean, I mean, honestly, man, 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:36.600 if I didn't have him in those moments, I didn't 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:39.520 know how to play corner until we got together. Like 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:43.960 I was an athlete, I mean you could see I 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.240 could do things, but I had the tools. 0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:49.159 But ultimately, man, it was it. 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:51.680 Was his tutelage that really got me over the top 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:54.560 and solidified who I was going to be earlier in 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:55.080 my career. 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:57.600 What were some of those things that he did tell 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.400 you that helped you? Like, you know, as people that 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:02.159 that don't play the game right, they're like, man, what 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:03.560 are those that advice that you get? 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:05.200 But it could be anything under the sun. 0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:07.200 It could be life things, it could be family things, 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.320 it could be financial things. What were some of those 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:12.600 things that you did get from Darryl green Well? 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:16.639 He used to have this saying, uh, he still uses it, 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:18.920 I'm sure like your hands are great, but your feet 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:22.920 are better. And what he met is, you know when 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:26.440 when I play bump and run. The thing about Darryl 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:27.000 he don't. 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:29.159 He don't like to touch people at the line. He 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:29.680 never did. 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:33.320 His thing was I'm just gonna move with you. You go, 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:37.199 you go later on going latter two and and he 0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:40.600 would always tell me, you know, it's great, you got 0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:43.159 these long arms, you're strong and all this. 0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:46.840 You've got a bigger body type. But it's really about 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:47.879 your feet. 0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:52.320 And I teach that now when I'm teaching any young 0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:58.159 kid about anything, it's all about your feet. And you know, 0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:02.400 just just narrowing and focusing in on what was important 0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.439 and then my hands were just the bonus, and I 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:06.199 bought into it. 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:08.640 I bought into it because I saw him do it. 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:10.880 You know, he was good at it, and I'm like, man, 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.880 if I could put that in my game where it's 0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:15.600 not about it if I touch you, it's more about 0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.760 if I could stay with you. And you know, it 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:22.160 really helped me become a great bumping rint corner corner, 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:23.879 you know, early in my career, and. 0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:25.840 You're competing and growing as a corner and then they 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.560 bring Deon Sanders in one of a legend, right, one 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:29.520 of the best to ever do it. 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:30.919 Man, how did that affect you? 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:32.200 Well? 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.960 That sort of solidified everything Daryl was saying, because you 0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:37.840 got to think my rookie year is really just the 0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:41.040 process of me buying in. But then here comes Dion 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:44.560 and then what I realized. You know, Dione would do things, 0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.760 but he was he was always conscious of his footwork. 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.320 Now this is later in his career. He's really buying 0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.720 into his technique. And you know he would get in 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:58.200 this motorcycle stance and you know people would always. 0:24:57.880 --> 0:24:59.280 You know, try to emulate that. 0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:03.320 But not only was it a fear tactic, it was 0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:07.320 still he would when he wouldn't go at you. He 0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:09.760 would still come back to bas and being square and 0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.840 trying to move with you. So it was always about defeat. 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:16.400 And I'm more built like Dion than Darryl, Like we're 0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:20.760 both taller, longer corners, you know, with great speed and quickness, 0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:23.760 and to be able to understand and buy into the 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:28.320 aspect of your cheek being the integral part of why 0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:30.919 you stay toe to toe with these bigger receivers and 0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:35.400 these quick guys. I mean it really, it really solidified 0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:36.240 what I was going. 0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:38.280 To be and what I could be and what to 0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:40.120 do for your confidence because I read somewhere that when 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.399 da comes in, you're immediately right like he's the o G. 0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:44.760 So you're like, you know what, he's the starter, he's 0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.439 taking it all. But that wasn't necessarily the case, was 0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:48.760 it for you? 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:49.560 No, it wasn't. 0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:49.960 You know. 0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:53.000 What's funny is that that was my initial thought, like, 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:58.440 I'm not starting. Here's two of my itels obviously gonna 0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:02.520 play before me. I was reassured by north Turner like, no, 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.960 you're starting one of them coming off the bench. 0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:09.320 It's you know, because I think they knew that I was. 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:12.320 I was in for a great second year because of 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.399 how I finished my rookie year. You know, I really 0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:18.240 I think that's one playoff game we won that year. 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:20.000 I had a really good game. 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.040 I mean it was it was just one of those 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:25.919 things like, oh man, coming off this off season, this 0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:28.600 kid is ready. And I think they knew that and 0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:29.560 I felt it too. 0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.720 But still these are my itels. I didn't playing before then. 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:37.560 But it worked out great because you know, they wanted 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.680 to see me grow and become what they had already done, 0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:42.640 and you know, it was a beautiful thing. 0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.720 And Chimp, I really just don't think young corners get 0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:48.239 that type of like game and that type of just 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:52.800 path that you have. What is your favorite memory from 0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:54.800 Washington when you were playing days in Washington? 0:26:55.760 --> 0:27:00.720 You know, I got some good memories, and it's more 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.199 about the people I played with. I mean, you mentioned 0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.800 two of the greatest right two first ballot Hall of 0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.920 Fame corners, and I give them a lot of credit 0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.399 for get me on that first ballot, but it's the 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:20.040 Bruce Smith, ah Man, Sam Jade liilm Evans. I mean, 0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:25.719 these guys that were, they were they had something to 0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:27.679 do with my growth as a young player. 0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:33.919 Darryl pounds. Who who the guy I replaced as a starter? 0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:36.920 I mean I started from my first game, but he 0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:39.520 was the starter, you know, all through the spring summer, 0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:41.720 we got the training camp, he was a starter, and 0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:43.920 then I ended up starting before the first game. 0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.359 But he didn't let that get in the way of 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.960 him mentoring me, teaching me little things. 0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.359 It was just it was just great to have that 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:59.560 kind of mentorship early. So I mean that's what I 0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:03.199 really remember the most because every time I see a 0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.400 guy get drafted, I'm always looking at, well, who's his vets? 0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.119 Like who are the guys that are gonna be you know, 0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.680 and you don't know where that leadership for that mentorship 0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:14.560 is gonna come from when you walk in the door, 0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.200 because you don't know these guys, you just see them. 0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.800 I didn't think Bruce Smith would take to me and 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.320 look at me as a potential Hall of famer like himself, 0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.639 Like these guys were already Hall of Famer. 0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:28.600 Before I ever stepped on the field with them. 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:34.639 So having that it really it really helped me early 0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:37.520 on because I knew what success looked like and I 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:38.320 got the witness it. 0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:41.040 Every day we talk about these Washington memories. 0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:42.680 I always think of this photo that I see all 0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:44.760 the time, because, as you know, I work with Fred 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:46.880 Smooth quite a lot, so you know, we're looking them 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.200 up and doing different things, and there's this photo of you, 0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.920 Darryl Green and Fred Smooth walking down the field y'all 0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:53.160 and y'all uniforms. 0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:58.000 What was it like being a veteran, I guess when 0:28:58.000 --> 0:28:59.800 you're still young as well. By having a young guy 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.800 like Smooth come into the building and come into the locker. 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.320 Room, I mean, it was, it was fun. It was 0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:07.840 It was a lot of fun. We had a lot 0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:12.320 of good time together. I think it gave a different dynamic. 0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.560 But you know the thing about Smoothest, he was just 0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.360 as hungry as I was. You know, he thought he 0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:23.400 was the best. He played and practiced like it. And 0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.000 I would like to think he took some of those 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:29.280 traits that I could show him at that young age 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.120 of how to be successful. Because I'm coming off my 0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:36.120 first Pro Bowl and then he comes in, Dion goes out, 0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.920 but Daryl's still there, so we do have our steady 0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.720 hand at the top. You know, we all respected him 0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:47.160 and you know his leadership. But here's Smooth who hasn't 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.000 changed a bit, so if you've been around and you 0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:53.000 know how he was even back then, like it was 0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:57.640 even worse back then, Like how loud and disruptive he were. 0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:01.960 He was, but he but I think all in all, 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.120 what mattered the most is that he wanted to be 0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.160 a great football player. He thought he was, and he 0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:09.120 worked like it. And man, he was the most fun 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:14.000 teammate I've ever been around. Because it wasn't nothing. He 0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.480 wasn't down to do it. So, you know, we had 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.360 some really good time together. I learned some things from him, 0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:22.520 you know, just just little stuff, man, you know. 0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:23.360 The way he played. 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.080 He couldn't do some of the things I could do, 0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:28.000 and I couldn't do some things he could do. 0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.280 Like it was just you know, as Darrel always had the. 0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:33.360 Same man, there was no real book on how to 0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:36.640 play corner like you got to figure out what works 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:39.200 for you. There's some things that are constant. But all 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.720 in all, man, we're all different. We all gonna get 0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:42.440 it done differently. 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:44.320 And the same way you talk about Fred is the 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:45.360 same way he talks about you. 0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:45.560 Man. 0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.120 He revers you guys so much for being those Ojizu 0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.200 just helped him out being those guys that helped him 0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.640 just kind of ease his way into the NFL, because 0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:54.480 that's a tough locker room to go in and compete with, 0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:56.360 right when you got two guys that are really man 0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:59.560 established like that, and you know now that you're back 0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.360 in the fall, Man, let me tell you there's nobody 0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.720 these fans love more than Fred Smooth. And I don't 0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:05.120 know outside of you and Daryl, I don't know if 0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.040 there's anybody that can give us those Fred Smooth stories. 0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:10.480 So if you would give us just that one favorite 0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:13.320 memory of your time in friendschoo, whether he's being crazy, 0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.160 whether he's talking trash in the locker room, because we 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.040 hear stories all the time, but I'd love to hear 0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:18.040 it from somebody else. 0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.400 I never forget this one time. Well, I got two 0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.840 little things for you, but one is more embarrassing for me. 0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:28.880 One is kind of his personality. So you know, as rookies, 0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:30.960 you know, I wouldn't say it was hazing, but we 0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:34.920 would always make him do certain things. And I can't 0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:39.160 remember what the demand was from Smooth, and he just 0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:43.200 bust out, man, I'll take the physical challenge. And he 0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.280 had no idea what he was getting himself into. So 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.000 we ended up taping him to the gold post. It 0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.040 was just but it was smooth though. He was not 0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.000 going to go down the traditional way. He's not gonna sing, 0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:58.600 he's not gonna go get food. He didn't do he 0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.960 didn't want to do anything. So he was just like, 0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.640 I'll take the physical challenge. I'm like, I didn't know 0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.040 what that meant. Of course, I'm not grabbing him and 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.560 taking him to the gold post, but I'm making sure 0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.680 the big boys don't hurt him along the way, right. 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:15.600 So, but that was who he was. 0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.400 But there's also this one incident. I was about to 0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.960 be late for practice, and I don't know if Freddy 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:27.320 gonna remember this, but but I called Smooth. I'm on 0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.600 the other side the beltway, and I'm like, Smooth, I'm 0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:31.520 forty five minutes out. 0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.720 Practice started fifteen minutes. Just tell coach. I'm in the 0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:37.720 bathroom on the toilet, Like, just tell him. 0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.880 So our coach at the time, I mean, you gotta think, 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:45.080 like I'm kind of established. I'm in my fourth or 0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:48.960 fifth year at this point, and you know, I could 0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:50.480 get away with some things. 0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.240 But at the same. 0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:56.120 Time, I'm accountable and I. 0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:57.760 Never did and push the envelope. 0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:01.480 But this one particular time, I just overslept up and 0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.600 I'm on my way to the facility. 0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.960 I mean, I'm trying to you know, the belt Way unpredictable. 0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.440 Yeah, so I'm traffic weaving in and now trying to 0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.040 go back to Potonac and just trying to get down 0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.960 in Virginia to get the practice. And he held it 0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.400 down for me till I got there. Of course, they 0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:20.520 didn't ask a lot of questions. I remember running out 0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:24.360 on the field, staying out there for about twenty minutes, 0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:25.840 and running back in like I had to go to 0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:29.440 the bathroom because I had to sell the story because 0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.680 coach thought I had a messed up stothing could get 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:33.720 just be over like that. 0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.320 So it was just one of them things, man. And 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:37.400 that's what Smooth was. 0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.280 Man. Smooth looked out for me. I looked out for him. 0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:44.040 And you know, I'll never forget those moments with him, okay, man. 0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.520 And and then Fred talks about those moments a lot too, man. 0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:48.000 So it's a member of love on both. 0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:48.200 Sides of that. 0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:49.760 I can't wait to talk to Hi about it. And 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:51.520 I'm sure what y'all was taking him to the goal post. 0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:53.560 He was talking trash deep. 0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.240 Yeah the whole time, the whole time. 0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:59.520 He didn't shut up one second of it. But it 0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:01.760 was who he was and we all laughed too. You know, 0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.400 nobody wanted to harm me. You just you know, sometimes 0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:05.400 you gotta let rookies know. 0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:07.720 It's great to hear those stories because some of you 0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:08.880 guys were a true brotherhood. 0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:10.799 And so then I gotta I gotta move forward to 0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:11.680 you were traded. 0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.200 You were traded for Clinton ports a lot of fans 0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:17.200 to this day, one of my best friends is a 0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.840 Washington fan, and he says it worst trade ever in 0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.640 NFL history because they felt like they lost somebody they 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.560 truly loved. In a champ Bailey talk to us about 0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:27.799 what you went through during that time. So I'm sure 0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.319 you didn't see it coming, or maybe you did. I 0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.000 know you loved playing here. How did that trade effect? 0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:33.839 You bring us back then? 0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:34.959 And you know what went down? 0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:36.520 Well, at the. 0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:41.480 Time, they you know, we were contract negotiating. Is you know, 0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:45.880 really weird when you're playing. But I remember during that season, 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:49.360 my fifth year, my last year in Washington, they just. 0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:50.360 Kept lowballing me. 0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:53.960 And you know, I remember the last statement they told 0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.239 my agent was you'll never get that what we were 0:34:56.280 --> 0:35:00.680 asking for. So that's when they decided, Okay, well we're 0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:01.719 gonna attempt to trade, and. 0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:03.719 They franchised me. Then they didn't tempt to trade me. 0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.520 I remember Joe Gibbs called me because he was becoming 0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:10.319 in as a new coach and I never got to 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:11.520 play for him, but he called me. 0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.520 It was like, I hope he worked this out, YadA YadA, But. 0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:17.840 Of course he had no real saying how that was 0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:20.080 gonna work out. We didn't have a relationship, so there 0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.359 was no like loyal to I expected from him. 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:27.200 But long story short, man, it was just they decided 0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:27.759 to trade me. 0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.840 I told Denver what I wanted if I would because 0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.160 I could have bucked the trade all together by not 0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:35.640 signing the franchise tag. 0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.440 Right, and Denver looked at the contract. 0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.920 Yeah, they wanted to pay me exactly what I was 0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.000 asking for, so I was like, damn, I should ask 0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:49.440 for more. But you know, at that time that was 0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:55.359 good enough. But you know, it happened, and then you know, 0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:58.319 I was a little upset with the fact that we 0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.920 were losing porters. I was like, we can't trade somebody 0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.960 else because I'm a running back fan. I grew up 0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:07.600 playing running back. I played running back in high school. 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.440 I'm a running back fan and I love Clinton Ports. 0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.959 So I'm like, damn, so we gotta go. I gotta 0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:18.120 go to Denver. He's coming here. But I think the 0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.839 icing on the cake was the second round pick, which 0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:23.640 they eventually used to get Tatum Ball. So I was 0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.879 feeling like, oh yeah, we got a we got a good, 0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:29.080 good deal. We got this other fast back from from 0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.520 Oklahoma State and it worked out. But at the time, man, 0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:37.680 I did not want Porters to leave. Pray somebody else, 0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.719 like anybody, but this guy, like I was a big 0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.400 fan of his and what he did in his short career. 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:45.000 I mean, I think he was coming off his second 0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:49.000 season or something. I can't I can't remember, but he was. 0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:52.600 He was all pro back, And for me, it was 0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.800 just it was a little daunting because I didn't. 0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.280 Know what to expect. I think Denver, I think snow, 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:01.680 you know, yeah, now I'm going. 0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.160 But I'm going to a team and a franchise that 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.839 had a good run up to that point and having 0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:12.520 a great run game, always in the playoffs, just always 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.720 a winning pedigree. I'm like, it's just it just made 0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:17.719 it made sense for me in that point in my 0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.719 career that I make this lead and then, you know, 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.080 fortunate enough for guys at that point in their career 0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.480 it's fifth sixth year when you moved to another team, 0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:29.160 people look at you as a leader coming in, So 0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:32.439 I had that respect walking in obviously, you know, big 0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.520 responsibility to be a leader, going from a guy that 0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:39.000 was kind of raised in Washington. But now I'm over 0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:43.799 here and people think I've done as much as you 0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:46.040 know most guys whole career, you know, So it's just 0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:49.400 you know, the respect was there. You know they treated 0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:51.359 me well, and you know it was the best thing 0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:52.840 happened in my career to get traded. 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.680 But in that moment, right like now, we can look 0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:57.239 back and say it's the best thing ever. But like 0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:59.600 you said, you were raised in Washington, you loved it here. 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.200 Did that put a chip on your shoulder? Not just 0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:04.520 getting traded but also you know, having to go through 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.720 these negotiations and then not really seeing your value. 0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:07.640 Did all that put a chip on. 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:11.239 Your shoulder a little bit? A little bit? 0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:17.120 You know, I wasn't really concerned with the past, and 0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:20.879 it did. I think what bothered me is that they 0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:24.480 didn't respect you know, what I had done, you know, 0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.000 and it was like, you know, I've been the four 0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:30.160 straight Pro Bowls in my five years there, you know, 0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:34.040 and I was an alternate as a rookie. But I think, 0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.480 you know, that really opened my eyes to what really matters, 0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:39.320 and it was relationships. 0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:44.520 And you know, they didn't draft me. Dan Snyder didn't 0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:44.920 draft me. 0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:48.359 He took over ownership in the summer after I got 0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:52.560 drafted by Charlie Cassell. So when Cassley ended up leaving 0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:56.120 before my rookie season, you know, there was no they 0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.560 weren't loyal to me. I mean, if you remember they 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:02.480 drafted LeVar Arrington as Samuelson next year. Well, Lamar ended 0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.279 up getting a new deal before I left, so you 0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:06.680 know you could tell. 0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:08.719 Where the loyalties lot. 0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:12.560 I mean, and he deserved it, but I did too, 0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.480 So it was just it was just obvious, you know, 0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.080 I wasn't valued. So the best thing was for me 0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:22.759 to leave and trust me. I told people all the time, 0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:28.040 like I have equally as much Washington fans as Denver 0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.920 fans come up to me to this day, tap me on. 0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:32.520 The shoulder, talk about the trade. 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.200 It's equal and it's been like that since I left. 0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:40.919 That was twenty years ago, so you know that. So there. 0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:42.840 It's always been in the back of my mind to 0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:48.640 be reacclimated with the franchise, but it really did take 0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:50.840 new ownership to get that done. 0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.799 And before we get onto you being back with the franchise, 0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:55.840 we have to talk about that first ballot Hall of 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:59.719 Fame because clearly that trade led to what was a 0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:02.120 race a great career, turned it into an amazing career, 0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:04.200 and then you end up being a first ballot Hall 0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:07.000 of Famer. From everything you've been through, man, all of 0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:08.919 that stuff, even that trade, right, all of these things 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:09.759 being overlooked. 0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:10.719 What did that. 0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:12.200 Moment mean for you to be able to be on 0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:14.040 that stage and get that gold jacket? 0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:17.240 I mean it was amazing. 0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:21.000 Yeah, I think I'm on that stage with some guys 0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:24.600 I played with, some guys I grew up revering. 0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:26.920 I mean, it was dude, it. 0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:32.160 Was amazing, And you know it's people tell me, used 0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:34.200 to tell me all the time. You know, within those 0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.959 five years I was retired before I'm eligible. Yeah, you're 0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:42.359 going first ballot, But I never really bought into it 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:44.680 because I'm like, man, anything can happen like that. There's 0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.120 nothing more I could do to change the minds of 0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:48.840 these voters, you know. 0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:53.640 But again it goes back to relationships. 0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:58.920 Like I just remember being a guy in the locker 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:01.759 room that the media could always come up to. 0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:06.520 And now who's voting the media. It's as simple as that. 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:09.839 I mean, you know, that's that's funny because all these 0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.720 these things carry over in life, and I'm like, oh, well, 0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.239 football is a part of my life, so why does 0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:17.719 it not exist here. I've seen so much evidence of 0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:21.160 how much these relationships mean. And you know, I try 0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:23.200 to tell guys all the time, no matter what, like 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.440 some point, your career is going to end, and what 0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:28.839 your value is going to be based off the relationships 0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:32.880 you've built. And I never got away from that. And 0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.920 I'm lucky for me, it was natural for me. And 0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:39.080 I think a lot of people can see how some 0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:42.520 guys get left off and not get looked at for 0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:44.319 a Hall of Fame, and they deserve it. 0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:46.640 There's so many guys that deserve to be in. But 0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:47.800 I do think there's. 0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.200 Some people that are not in because they don't have 0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.520 the right They just didn't rub people the right way 0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:53.800 for whatever reason. 0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:58.080 Not that it's warranted, but it is what it is. Like, 0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:02.640 that's just how it is, you know, and you know, 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:03.239 but I did. 0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.239 I do think my resume spoke for itself. So just 0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.600 based off game alone, yeah, you know, I felt like 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.160 I should have been in, but again it's not in 0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:16.560 my control. So I felt good because we had three 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.399 first ballots on my in my class with Ed Reed 0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:23.640 and Tony Gonzales, and then you throw Tylo in the mix. Man, 0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.680 you're talking about a hell of a secondary. That was 0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:29.840 a great class man. I was just happy to be 0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:32.040 in Man with some guys I love watching. 0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:35.799 Oh well deserved. Man, you were such a monster on 0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:38.640 that field. And I'm sure Washington fans you know, they 0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.200 missed you because we talked about this before we got on. 0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:43.200 You had not been back to after being traded. 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:44.600 You had not The last time you had been in 0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:47.560 Washington was O nine, you were playing for the Broncos 0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.560 against US, and then you hadn't been back since until 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:55.200 last season. New ownership comes in and decides we are 0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.160 going to make Champ Bailey our legend of the game 0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:01.080 for our very first home game as new ownership, which 0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.040 is I don't think people realize how big of a 0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.600 deal that is, especially somebody that hadn't been in the 0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:06.360 fold in a while. 0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:08.359 How much did that mean to you to be able 0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.120 to be back on that field, have all those. 0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.200 Burgundy and gold fans yell at you and cheer for 0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.000 you and just be so happy to see you. Man, 0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:16.000 What was that moment like for you after being separated 0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:16.600 for so long? 0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:19.960 It was amazing and it was overdue, you know. 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.800 And I got to give you know, Tim Hottower and 0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:27.400 those guys a lot of credit for I mean, continuing 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:30.960 to reach out. And you know, there were calls for 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:36.160 me to come back, but again before new ownership, but 0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:40.040 it never felt right. And then when the team was sold, 0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:44.440 it just felt right at that time. It just they 0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:47.760 they made me feel like I was part of the family. 0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:51.680 And it never was a disconnection, because that's how close 0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:55.320 knit these circles are when it comes to former athletes 0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:58.480 and people you work with in this business. I mean, 0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:02.120 those bonds are strong. It's not it's not hard to reconnect. 0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:05.800 It's really not like we all could get around and 0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:09.600 talk about our times as a player or administrator or 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:13.120 coach or whatever it may be. An owner, you know, 0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:17.120 and it's one of those circles you always want to 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:19.840 be a part of. And I'm just happy to be 0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.480 a part of one of the most story franchises ever 0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:26.359 like this. I never wanted to disconnect, you know, from 0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:29.960 the franchise and you know, but if you're not valued 0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:33.040 in that way, then I'm not. I'm never going to 0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:36.200 force my way into somebody's house. That's just not who 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.480 I am. But I got to give everybody there a 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:43.200 lot of credit. Man, they're really changing the culture. It's 0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:44.680 been overdue. As you can tell. 0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:47.560 It's not hard to do that when when you have 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:49.440 a team and a fan base like that. 0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:53.799 Like like I say, man, there's more people just as 0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:57.800 many people come up to me today about my time there, 0:44:57.920 --> 0:44:59.600 and there's been so many great players. 0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:03.520 Clint Porters wasn't wasn't a bus. They got something break 0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.120 out of that trade. So it wasn't like, yeah, it 0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:08.560 wasn't like I left for nothing like he was. He 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:13.319 was a beast. So to be remembered, man, I mean, 0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:14.600 it's it's gratifying. 0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:14.759 Man. 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:15.439 It means a lot. 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:18.160 And your ogi's getting loved too. He will be having 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:21.600 his jersey retired. I know you will be there for that, man, 0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:22.560 how awesome. 0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.480 He hit me the other day, asked me, was I coming? Like, 0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:27.120 what is he talking about? 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.920 Of course I'm gonna be there. How big is that 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:32.600 gonna be there? You're gonna be on that field with him. 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.120 Man, you're gonna see all of his hard work, because you, 0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:37.279 better than anybody, have got to really see the work 0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:39.120 and the time he put into his craft. And now 0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:41.400 he's finally getting recognized. For man, how special is that 0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:42.879 gonna be for somebody that. 0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:43.680 Was his mentee? 0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:48.960 Look, man, this dude. The fact that he's having to 0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:50.440 wait this long is is. 0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:58.000 It's criminal. It doesn't make anything. But what people don't 0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:00.960 understand is we've been can connected. 0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:04.320 Since I've retired, a lot a lot more since I 0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:07.239 retired and over the years of my career, like we 0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:13.040 always stayed connected, and for me it was it was. 0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:15.680 It was easy. 0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:17.799 Because I looked up to him, not for what he 0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:19.919 did on the field, but more what he did off 0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:23.359 the field. It's charity work, the business that he's done 0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:26.680 since he's retired, and we worked with some of the 0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:31.560 same companies now, so it's nothing to do. Like I say, 0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:35.400 we never got disconnected, like he was always my mentor. 0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:38.759 It still is like, we make sure we are on 0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:40.440 the phone at least two or three times a year, 0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.600 no matter what we're texting about something. You know, he's 0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:49.000 presenting opportunities to me and vice versa. So it's there's 0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:52.240 always been that bond. So I'm just happy to finally 0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:55.799 see him get the recognition that's been overdue for all 0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:59.520 these years. Nobody should everwhere twenty eight have ever again 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:03.440 on the whole league, Like it's he means that much 0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:06.399 to the younger generation and the career. 0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.920 That he had. I mean, this dude played twenty one years. 0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:12.560 Come on, man, you tell me your corner getting past 0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:16.600 fifteen These days it's not happening. So, I mean, I 0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:18.320 got a lot of respect for him. I'm just happy 0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:21.480 I could get there and witness it in person and 0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:25.359 watch him cry again because you know he I can 0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:26.560 tell this one got to him. 0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:28.759 You know, this one, this one really got to him. 0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:30.920 And it shows the love that you guys had for 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:33.279 this organization and this fan base, the way that you 0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:35.080 guys get emotional on the way you got to show up. 0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.080 So thank you for sharing that. And of course we 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:39.359 got to talk about today's game. We got a lot 0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:41.680 of young secondary in there. We got kwalm Martin, we 0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:44.759 got Mike Sanders Shill, we have emmanual Force, We have 0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:46.680 all these young guys and a lot of things are changing. 0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:50.360 How do you feel about the lay of the land 0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:51.720 now for Washington. 0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:52.960 And how bright our future looks? 0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:57.600 Well, looks great, I think, you know, defensively, we've always 0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:03.319 had some good pieces, just and consistent, and I think 0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:07.400 the one constant thing that we have been missing is 0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:08.080 the quarterback. 0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:12.560 And we've had a good running game here and there. 0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:17.080 And Brian Robinson looks like a beast for some reason. Man, 0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:19.680 he just looked beast mood now for some reason. I 0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:20.640 don't know what it is. 0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:23.879 He always was that he always wasn't just you. 0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:25.880 Know, but it feels different. 0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:28.880 It feels like he has another level of confidence that 0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:31.719 I hadn't seen. He pops out on the screen to 0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:37.080 me like and I feel like in some ways that 0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:41.080 reflects the leadership that he has Silently. I don't know 0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:43.359 who he is or what type of person he is, 0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:47.400 but it just feels like he's energizing the team for 0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:49.560 some reason. Now, don't get me wrong, you know, it's 0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:53.000 obviously early in his career, but you know, one thing 0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:55.560 about this league. If you've noticed, man, you got to 0:48:55.560 --> 0:49:00.759 be mobile like that. All the good quarterbacks now have mobility. 0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:03.480 I think the least mobile guy is Yo Borrow and 0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:06.080 he can move a little bit. So I mean it's 0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:10.320 if you don't have some mobility, you're not gonna win early. 0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:15.680 And Jayden Daniels looks good in that pocket. But when 0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:18.120 you can dial up a quarterback run here and there, 0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:23.240 Lamar Jackson, like, I mean, it's dangerous, man. He creates 0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:25.880 another headache for the defense, something else they gotta work on. 0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:29.840 So you just never know what's coming at you. And boy, 0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:32.759 coordinator got to be in heaven with a guy like this. 0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:35.400 I think we are all at heaven, man, and we 0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:38.080 cannot wait till Sunday's game against the Browns to see 0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:40.200 them boys go out there and just continue to get better. 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.520 And before we let you go on Sunday as well 0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:44.360 as Santanta Mans another guy that works with me and 0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:46.600 fred a lot, he will be the legend of the game. 0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:49.080 And you were defensive back for a very long time, 0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:52.000 so there's nobody prepared for receivers quite like you. Can 0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:55.040 you give us a little bit of Santana Moss story, 0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.160 something about Santanta mass when you would line up agains 0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:58.920 him and playing what kind of player was he in? 0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:00.719 How cool is it to see a OG like that 0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:03.080 get get on it, just like you were honored last season? 0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:04.279 Yeah? 0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:06.239 Fortunate though for me, I never had to match up 0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:08.759 against him, so I didn't I didn't have to like 0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:12.839 really tear into who he was. But you know, he 0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:17.480 one thing you couldn't, you know, get away from or 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:20.360 at least ignore, was his speed. I mean, he was 0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:22.320 just one of those guys and he was always taking 0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.440 the lid off the defense and just really putting pressure 0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:28.759 on him. So I can remember preparing that week and 0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.160 we were just always trying to figure out, like when 0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:34.040 is he going deep? And I never forget he beat 0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:36.879 me on a corner route. They were in some kind 0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:40.400 of bunch formation or something and he was lined up 0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:42.640 at the first receiver. Now, usually the first receive it 0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:45.960 don't go deep. He's usually the one going under or 0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:49.080 run something short. And ran a corner from that number 0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:52.520 one spot and I'm like, whoa hold on? And man, 0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:55.719 like I say, man, this dude here, he's one of 0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:58.920 those guys that's super underrated. We don't talk about enough 0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:01.920 I mean every time his highlights pop up on my timeline, 0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:04.280 I just sit I just sit there and watch him. 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:07.319 I mean, because he was amazing to watch. I only 0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:09.479 played him that one I think that one. Maybe once 0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:13.200 othern when he was with the Jets, but that that 0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:15.000 one time I remember vividly. 0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:15.760 Wow. 0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:16.080 Man. 0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:18.399 And it's so great just having legends like you guys 0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:20.080 as part of this building. I think it speaks to 0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:21.719 not only the fan based on how much you guys 0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:23.319 are the fans, but just the people that you guys 0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:23.719 are too. 0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:25.480 Man so Champ. We're so happy to have you back 0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:25.919 in the fall. 0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:26.120 Man. 0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:28.120 We ain't gonna let you go. We're gonna hold on 0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:30.000 to you tight now. Man chat. We're so happy to 0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:30.200 have it. 0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:31.080 Man, I appreciate it. 0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:32.520 Yes, sir, Man, thank you for your time. 0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:32.680 Bro. 0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:33.920 We really appreciate having you on. 0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:36.919 Man all right, Man, looking forward to seeing y'all peace. 0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:41.160 Man Commanded, Sammy, we appreciate you watching this episode of 0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:43.759 Next Man Up. 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