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Speaker 1: Command Is Family.

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Speaker 2: This is the Next Man Up Podcast, and we have

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Speaker 2: special guests for you.

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Speaker 1: We have Kwan Martin.

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Speaker 2: We have to go back a little bit to Arizona

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Speaker 2: where me and Kwan Martin caught up before the world

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Speaker 2: trip handed. Then we have a true legend Hall of

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Speaker 2: Famer first Ballot Hall of Famer Champ Bailey joins the

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Speaker 2: show to talk about his time in Washington and our

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Speaker 2: happy year is to be back in the fall. Then

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Speaker 2: we got to get some national love. Hey Adams joins

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Speaker 2: the show to talk about the thing she's seen from

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Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders. All that starts now on Next Man Up.

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Speaker 3: What's good? Command Is Family. This is Next Man Up.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Blind Cope Junior here with somebody extremely special,

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Speaker 2: Kwan Martin, my brother.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: It's good to see you.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you man.

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Speaker 3: I think last time we sat down like this, you.

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Speaker 2: K like ota yeah, man, like yeah, like ten months

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Speaker 2: ago type stuff, like you you are really your rookie

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Speaker 2: and like things have changed for you.

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Speaker 3: Tell us what has changed for you in year two

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Speaker 3: since that last time we spoke.

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Speaker 5: Really man, Just being able to learn, grow, develop, you know,

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Speaker 5: just kind of find my way in the league. And uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, just get in while I fit there pretty much, man,

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Speaker 5: and just really just building that name, making that name

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Speaker 5: for myself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you really fit in well.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: You know you're getting a lot of love. You were

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Speaker 2: named the captain for Arizona. What does that mean to you?

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Speaker 2: Were you surprised?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, because I was captain during the preseason

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Speaker 5: and I kind of felt the coming. And today in

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Speaker 5: the meeting, he was like, I got a captain. I

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Speaker 5: was like, damn, I gotta feel that he might call me.

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Speaker 5: I kind of felt the coming a little bit, so

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Speaker 5: you know, it was great man, just to you know,

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Speaker 5: hear my name come up, see my you know picture

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Speaker 5: up on the board, and coach just telling me, you

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Speaker 5: know that I'm counting for this game.

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Speaker 3: That means a lot, you know this stuff.

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Speaker 5: I talk about my family all the time, man, just

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Speaker 5: you know, just trying to set an example for everybody, uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, back where I'm from, kids in my neighborhood. Man,

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Speaker 5: just you know, showing me that you can do it.

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Speaker 5: You know it is possible. And man, you know, it's

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Speaker 5: just a great opportunity to go out there and representing

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Speaker 5: this program.

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Speaker 2: And you even played since you were five years old, man,

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Speaker 2: So to have that seat on your jersey, Man, what

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Speaker 2: does that mean to you?

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Speaker 5: I mean it means a lot.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 5: My first time really just being the captain and since

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Speaker 5: I've been playing, man, so it's been great.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: Never had the opportunity in college to.

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Speaker 5: Be, you know, captain on the team. So just to

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Speaker 3: I think what's so special about that is this is

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Speaker 2: Staff that drafted you. They didn't keep a lot of

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Speaker 2: also were named the starter. What is it like to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, it means a lot.

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Speaker 5: You know. Obviously we talked with you know, coach Quinn

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Speaker 5: and you know, he just kind of told me where

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Speaker 3: I embraced it.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: I just went out work hard, put my head down

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Speaker 5: and just kept grinding. Man, and you know just kind

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Speaker 5: I feel like that's what I've always done my whole.

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Speaker 2: Career, and I'm sure that there's different expectations that come

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Speaker 2: with happening in your coaching staff. And I remember you

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Speaker 2: saying preseason that the coaches want you to be more vocal.

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Speaker 2: How's that been so far? Because you're very chi.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's been great.

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Speaker 5: I feel like not even just coach Quinn, but really

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Speaker 5: always said like would you want to be led by you?

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Speaker 5: So you know, like when he say that, I'm like okay,

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Speaker 2: You told me last time we sat and spoke, you

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Speaker 2: said that will motivate you as being overlooked, you were

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Speaker 3: The second round pick.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure you feel like you're supposed to

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Speaker 2: go on the first So what motivates you now? Because

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Speaker 2: now you're getting recognition now you're getting in love now.

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Speaker 2: what motivates you now?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 5: Just this team, the guys around me, and uh, just

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Speaker 5: not want to let the team down, man, And uh,

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Speaker 5: just trying to put my best feel forward. And you know,

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Speaker 5: just knowing that these coaches believe in me and my

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Speaker 5: gonna go out and get him my best every play,

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Speaker 5: every down, every game. And I feel like it shows.

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Speaker 2: You've got a new rerunnament in Jeremy Chin. And I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you hadn't seen it, but I spoke to him.

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Speaker 3: And we had a moment. It was very weird.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lost wars off the but Jeremy Chin

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Speaker 2: is like, I'm pissed off and he's got real, real

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Speaker 3: He's on that field.

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Speaker 5: Man, he's been you know, somebody I've looked up to

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Speaker 5: since day one. Man, Just you know how he carris

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: So I've really learned a lot from that dude. And

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Speaker 5: you know, he's just been that voice for me, that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had an event where it was me, you

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Speaker 2: During that event, you said something I thought was very

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Speaker 3: But this is really your first time getting to focus

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Speaker 2: You're like, man, this is my first time not having

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Speaker 2: important to you this season? And why has it been

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Speaker 5: I Just feel like, you know, it allowed me to

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Speaker 5: small details at each and every position. But yeah, man,

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Speaker 5: it's just been special for me. And I talked to

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Speaker 5: just the focus that comes with you know, playing a position,

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Speaker 5: and the coaches, like I said, they just pushed me

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Speaker 3: And you've been so special this year.

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Speaker 2: Man, I can't wait to see what you do Sunday

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Speaker 2: against the the Browns. We'll be back home again. It'll

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Speaker 2: be your first time back home. We've been on a

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Speaker 2: out for us. Man on this road, we've seen them

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Speaker 2: so much. And then at the home game, it was crazy, Man,

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Speaker 2: How excited you to see those fans again after being.

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Speaker 5: Man, Super excited, Man, just to go in and play

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Speaker 5: another home game.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: I like the fans. They've they've been, you know, pretty excited,

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Speaker 5: it's time for us to take that next step and

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Speaker 3: And Kwama has been great seeing you developed.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: Man can't wait to see you out on that field. Brother,

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Speaker 3: appreciate your time, Appreciate.

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Speaker 2: You now command this family. Have to bring in a

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Speaker 2: very special friend of mine. She pulled up for training

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Speaker 2: It's not always the next man up. Sometimes it's the

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Speaker 2: next woman. For the first time, we have a woman

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Speaker 2: on the show, so we're gonna call it next Woman.

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Speaker 1: It up.

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Speaker 2: She is from national media. She has a big time show.

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Speaker 2: Welcoming in Kay Adams. How are you doing.

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Speaker 7: I'm so great, next woman, I'd like to do this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we love it.

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Speaker 2: We love and talk about we'd like to talk about,

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Speaker 2: you know, our past, what got us here. And just

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Speaker 2: like me, we don't end up in our seats, right,

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Speaker 2: We don't end up doing what we do unless we

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Speaker 2: love the game of football. So you tell me when

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Speaker 2: did you find your love for football?

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Speaker 7: Oh man?

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Speaker 8: I started to love football growing up in Chicago. I

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Speaker 8: was raised by two Polish immigrants who'd never heard of football,

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Speaker 8: and my brother just wanted to figure out what's like

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Speaker 8: the most American communal, bring everybody together thing everybody's talking about.

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Speaker 8: We of course had the bulls at that point with

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Speaker 8: Michael Jordan, but still football was huge in Chicago, so

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Speaker 8: you know, we had Matt Forte and we had Devin

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Speaker 8: Hester to root for as I was growing up, and then.

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Speaker 7: I really liked fantasy football. If you were really.

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Speaker 8: Asking me, like, at what point was I like, I

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Speaker 8: love this. It's the fact that I'm really competitive. So

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Speaker 8: and I got in my first year drafted my team,

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Speaker 8: didn't really know the players very well, learned about them.

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Speaker 8: I won my league the first year I played. But

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Speaker 8: I think, like I'm trying to think of who it was.

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Speaker 8: Matt Fourte was definitely on my team, and at that

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Speaker 8: point it was you have this wealth of knowledge about

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Speaker 8: thirty two teams and all these different players, not just

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Speaker 8: the fifty three in your hometown. And I love that

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Speaker 8: just the storylines of it and getting my heart broken

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Speaker 8: Hester trutch down like that sort of is where it.

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Speaker 8: The sort of takeaway was like, don't like, don't talk

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Speaker 7: He had so much success.

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Speaker 2: And I love talking to people like you. Go are outside, right,

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Speaker 6: But you you're in the national media on the outside.

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Speaker 2: So you tell me at three and one, right now,

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Speaker 8: Oh, you know, it's so funny because you're on the inside.

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Speaker 8: But I'm friends with Kevin Durant. Now you know over

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Speaker 8: Commanders are different. I think it's a fan base that's

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Speaker 8: Absolutely they should be considered a contender on up and

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Speaker 8: They were interested in Brandon Nayuk and what I'm saying

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Speaker 2: And I love that because we know you're a Devonte

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Speaker 2: However, I find it very I admire it because I

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Speaker 2: Knowing that, like y'all would have a regular conversation about

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Speaker 8: I'm just as curious as everybody else to see what happened.

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Speaker 7: I said it on my show this morning.

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Speaker 7: I think he deserves it. I think it'd be so

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Speaker 2: It would make my job a lot more. You tell

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Speaker 7: Sort of a situation. And we heard the rumors. I'm

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Speaker 8: You know more than I do about their interests in

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Speaker 2: Hey, I love your energy and optimism on it. I

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Speaker 3: You need him?

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Speaker 8: them and it goes to the Jets or you don't

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Speaker 8: want to go to the Cowboys and and CD, that

445
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Speaker 8: we don't want.

446
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Speaker 7: We don't want that.

447
00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,120
Speaker 6: If we're Washington, if you.

448
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Speaker 8: Know, if it goes somewhere and you don't get him

449
00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,720
Speaker 8: like Sill, I wouldn't cry about it if I was

450
00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:23,800
Speaker 8: Washington Nott right now.

451
00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, there's so many other things to be optimistic about,

452
00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,919
Speaker 2: and you don't really see that like here, like you

453
00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,800
Speaker 2: always want that big name free agent, like people freak.

454
00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:31,040
Speaker 3: Out about it.

455
00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,040
Speaker 2: But now that things are going so well, people are

456
00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,240
Speaker 2: kind of chilling, like, oh, you know, if it happens, happens,

457
00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,040
Speaker 2: you know, it's a different type of energy.

458
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Speaker 1: Ink.

459
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Speaker 2: I know you're busy. I know you got a lot

460
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Speaker 2: of people in your CAREB right now. I appreciate you

461
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Speaker 2: taking the time World War question for before we go,

462
00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,399
Speaker 2: we have the Cleveland Browns and I'm not sure if

463
00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,840
Speaker 2: you went to Cleveland during your training camp visits. However,

464
00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,000
Speaker 2: I do know you're very familiar with all NFL teams,

465
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Speaker 2: So ask you what kind of challenges does a team

466
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Speaker 2: like the Cleveland Browns pose for the Commanders. Yes, we

467
00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,760
Speaker 2: know they're struggling right now, however, they still have a

468
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Speaker 2: gotten to Shaun Watson that can get it done.

469
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Speaker 8: I got to be honest, I don't think it's a challenge.

470
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Speaker 8: And I hope that this I obviously don't want this.

471
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Speaker 8: Commanders seem to be looking past them, but this should

472
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Speaker 8: be a team that's looking and staring down you know,

473
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Speaker 8: four and one, by being consistent, by having Jaden be

474
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Speaker 8: as special as he is. And I would say, I

475
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Speaker 8: really don't see the challenge. I feel like the Browns

476
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Speaker 8: are inconsistent and they what they lack is what the

477
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Speaker 8: Commanders have, and that's confidence and that's poise. And you're

478
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Speaker 8: seeing a very lack of confidence on that offense with

479
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Speaker 8: the Browns. And I would say, I would say that

480
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Speaker 8: the most impressive thing I've seen. I mean, there's obviously

481
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Speaker 8: lots to be excited about with the Commander's offense, but

482
00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,960
Speaker 8: Jayden and will he he doesn't do it often, but

483
00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,639
Speaker 8: he made a mistake, you know, and once when he

484
00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,960
Speaker 8: makes a mistake, that's when I'm watching. I'm saying, oh boy,

485
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Speaker 8: how is he going to handle himself? How's and for

486
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,200
Speaker 8: him to just no problem pull it together. That is veteran,

487
00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,639
Speaker 8: that is poised. That is I'm not afraid that if

488
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,000
Speaker 8: he turns the ball over that he's not getting it back.

489
00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,320
Speaker 8: Cheering on his defense and he's going to go right

490
00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,480
Speaker 8: down and score. We've seen that now and I think

491
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Speaker 8: that gives that gives them the edge going into this game, and.

492
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Speaker 7: It better not be close. Commanders, Jay, I love.

493
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Speaker 2: The optimism, and you know what, it sounds like, we're

494
00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,520
Speaker 2: starting to make you a Burgundy and Gold fan slowly.

495
00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,879
Speaker 2: But Chirley, you don't got to change your family yet.

496
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Speaker 2: We don't bring you up on this side.

497
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Speaker 7: I wanted to go to a game so bad.

498
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 8: I was supposed to come for the Giants opener, and

499
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,880
Speaker 8: then I wasn't able to come, And now I'm really

500
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Speaker 8: really trying to get down there. But but yes, just

501
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,200
Speaker 8: so everybody knows, Kevin Durant comes on up in Adams

502
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,680
Speaker 8: and he told me he's picking the commanders every week.

503
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Speaker 7: That he comes out.

504
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,560
Speaker 8: He's a true like a like a sick pup level fan.

505
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 8: So and I'm sure everybody out there knows that as well.

506
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Speaker 8: So he will be cheering on the Commanders and I

507
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Speaker 8: will be helping be the.

508
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Speaker 7: Hype girl too.

509
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Speaker 6: Hey, we love that. Hopefully you can get kick on

510
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,360
Speaker 6: next man up as well.

511
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Speaker 3: We have y'all both on.

512
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Speaker 2: We love the Burgundy and gold love Kate, thank you

513
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 2: so much for your time.

514
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Speaker 6: It's always we appreciate you.

515
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 2: I love seeing what you're doing with Uppen Adams and

516
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Speaker 2: just you just you're just a shooting star taking off.

517
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Speaker 3: So thank You's amazing.

518
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Speaker 8: You have the bad vibes in the business that should

519
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Speaker 8: be on your little undertitle.

520
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Speaker 4: Here.

521
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Speaker 6: I take Friday and that I'll take. Hey, I'll take

522
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Speaker 6: you take I promise this.

523
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Speaker 2: Man commanded family, y'all. Next moving up from up in Adams,

524
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Speaker 2: Hey Adams, thank you so much, Key.

525
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Speaker 1: Command this family for our next man up.

526
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Speaker 2: You know, we love to bring in a legend and

527
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 2: this one is a true legend. Fifteen years in the

528
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Speaker 2: NFL Hall of Fame, career holds so many records for

529
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Speaker 2: a defensive back. Was drafted here in the first round,

530
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Speaker 2: seventh overall and it's just a true legend, one of

531
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Speaker 2: the best to ever do it in this game. Welcome

532
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Speaker 2: me in, Champ Bailey. My boy got the lok saw.

533
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Speaker 2: He's comfee. You feeling good?

534
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, thanks for having me. Man, I'm chilling.

535
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Speaker 1: Oh man.

536
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Speaker 2: It's a blessing to have you. And we have so

537
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Speaker 2: much to talk about. But I want to start in

538
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 2: the beginning. Man, I want to start in the beginning.

539
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 2: When you got drafted to Washington. That was a while ago.

540
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Speaker 2: But take us back there. What was young Champ Bailey

541
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Speaker 2: feeling thinking being drafted so high, going in the first round,

542
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Speaker 2: accomplishing those dreams?

543
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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, twenty five years ago. You know, I think

544
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 4: back then, man, I just wanted to play ball.

545
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Speaker 3: That's all that. Man, when you're young.

546
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Speaker 4: I was twenty years old and they called by name,

547
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Speaker 4: you know, sort of a dramatic draft.

548
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Speaker 3: But at that time, I was just I just wanted to.

549
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Speaker 4: Play ball, and I was fortunate enough to come to

550
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Speaker 4: a team that, you know, a story franchise, the hottest

551
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Speaker 4: division in football.

552
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Speaker 3: It just it worked out perfectly.

553
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Speaker 4: And then you know, the people I got to connect with,

554
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Speaker 4: that's a whole other story.

555
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Speaker 2: It's not every day, a rookie comes in and has

556
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Speaker 2: a locker room right next to Daryl Green, and then

557
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Speaker 2: I locker right next to Deon Sanders. Those are Hall

558
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Speaker 2: of Fame players and you're coming in and getting that

559
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Speaker 2: pedigree right away.

560
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Speaker 1: How valuable was that for young chat Bailey? Well?

561
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Speaker 3: Very valuable.

562
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Speaker 4: Well, if you remember, it was just Darren at first,

563
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Speaker 4: and you know, our defensive back coach, Tom Hayes really

564
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 4: just put me under Dal's wing and and Drell taught

565
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Speaker 4: me only he could, right, it was it was. It

566
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Speaker 4: was interesting because we were two different type of players

567
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Speaker 4: as far as how we were built, you know, the

568
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 4: things we could do. You know, I was a press corner.

569
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Speaker 4: He was off, you know, just staying step for step

570
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Speaker 4: with guys.

571
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Speaker 3: That was his mo.

572
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Speaker 4: But the things I learned from him were crucial to

573
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Speaker 4: the early part of my career. I mean, I mean, honestly, man,

574
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Speaker 4: if I didn't have him in those moments, I didn't

575
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Speaker 4: know how to play corner until we got together. Like

576
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Speaker 4: I was an athlete, I mean you could see I

577
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Speaker 4: could do things, but I had the tools.

578
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Speaker 3: But ultimately, man, it was it.

579
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Speaker 4: Was his tutelage that really got me over the top

580
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Speaker 4: and solidified who I was going to be earlier in

581
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Speaker 4: my career.

582
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Speaker 2: What were some of those things that he did tell

583
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Speaker 2: you that helped you? Like, you know, as people that

584
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 2: that don't play the game right, they're like, man, what

585
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: are those that advice that you get?

586
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: But it could be anything under the sun.

587
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: It could be life things, it could be family things,

588
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: it could be financial things. What were some of those

589
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: things that you did get from Darryl green Well?

590
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Speaker 4: He used to have this saying, uh, he still uses it,

591
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 4: I'm sure like your hands are great, but your feet

592
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 4: are better. And what he met is, you know when

593
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 4: when I play bump and run. The thing about Darryl

594
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 4: he don't.

595
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Speaker 3: He don't like to touch people at the line. He

596
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Speaker 3: never did.

597
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Speaker 4: His thing was I'm just gonna move with you. You go,

598
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Speaker 4: you go later on going latter two and and he

599
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 4: would always tell me, you know, it's great, you got

600
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 4: these long arms, you're strong and all this.

601
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Speaker 3: You've got a bigger body type. But it's really about

602
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Speaker 3: your feet.

603
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Speaker 4: And I teach that now when I'm teaching any young

604
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 4: kid about anything, it's all about your feet. And you know,

605
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 4: just just narrowing and focusing in on what was important

606
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 4: and then my hands were just the bonus, and I

607
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 4: bought into it.

608
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 3: I bought into it because I saw him do it.

609
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 4: You know, he was good at it, and I'm like, man,

610
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Speaker 4: if I could put that in my game where it's

611
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 4: not about it if I touch you, it's more about

612
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 4: if I could stay with you. And you know, it

613
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 4: really helped me become a great bumping rint corner corner,

614
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 4: you know, early in my career, and.

615
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Speaker 2: You're competing and growing as a corner and then they

616
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Speaker 2: bring Deon Sanders in one of a legend, right, one

617
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Speaker 2: of the best to ever do it.

618
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Speaker 1: Man, how did that affect you?

619
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Speaker 3: Well?

620
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 4: That sort of solidified everything Daryl was saying, because you

621
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 4: got to think my rookie year is really just the

622
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 4: process of me buying in. But then here comes Dion

623
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Speaker 4: and then what I realized. You know, Dione would do things,

624
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 4: but he was he was always conscious of his footwork.

625
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 4: Now this is later in his career. He's really buying

626
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 4: into his technique. And you know he would get in

627
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 4: this motorcycle stance and you know people would always.

628
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Speaker 3: You know, try to emulate that.

629
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Speaker 4: But not only was it a fear tactic, it was

630
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 4: still he would when he wouldn't go at you. He

631
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 4: would still come back to bas and being square and

632
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 4: trying to move with you. So it was always about defeat.

633
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 4: And I'm more built like Dion than Darryl, Like we're

634
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 4: both taller, longer corners, you know, with great speed and quickness,

635
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 4: and to be able to understand and buy into the

636
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 4: aspect of your cheek being the integral part of why

637
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 4: you stay toe to toe with these bigger receivers and

638
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 4: these quick guys. I mean it really, it really solidified

639
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Speaker 4: what I was going.

640
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Speaker 2: To be and what I could be and what to

641
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Speaker 2: do for your confidence because I read somewhere that when

642
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 2: da comes in, you're immediately right like he's the o G.

643
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: So you're like, you know what, he's the starter, he's

644
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 2: taking it all. But that wasn't necessarily the case, was

645
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: it for you?

646
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't.

647
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Speaker 1: You know.

648
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Speaker 4: What's funny is that that was my initial thought, like,

649
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Speaker 4: I'm not starting. Here's two of my itels obviously gonna

650
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 4: play before me. I was reassured by north Turner like, no,

651
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 4: you're starting one of them coming off the bench.

652
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: It's you know, because I think they knew that I was.

653
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 4: I was in for a great second year because of

654
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 4: how I finished my rookie year. You know, I really

655
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 4: I think that's one playoff game we won that year.

656
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: I had a really good game.

657
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Speaker 4: I mean it was it was just one of those

658
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 4: things like, oh man, coming off this off season, this

659
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: kid is ready. And I think they knew that and

660
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 4: I felt it too.

661
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: But still these are my itels. I didn't playing before then.

662
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Speaker 4: But it worked out great because you know, they wanted

663
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Speaker 4: to see me grow and become what they had already done,

664
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Speaker 4: and you know, it was a beautiful thing.

665
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: And Chimp, I really just don't think young corners get

666
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 2: that type of like game and that type of just

667
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: path that you have. What is your favorite memory from

668
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: Washington when you were playing days in Washington?

669
00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 4: You know, I got some good memories, and it's more

670
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 4: about the people I played with. I mean, you mentioned

671
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 4: two of the greatest right two first ballot Hall of

672
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 4: Fame corners, and I give them a lot of credit

673
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 4: for get me on that first ballot, but it's the

674
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: Bruce Smith, ah Man, Sam Jade liilm Evans. I mean,

675
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 4: these guys that were, they were they had something to

676
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 4: do with my growth as a young player.

677
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 3: Darryl pounds. Who who the guy I replaced as a starter?

678
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 4: I mean I started from my first game, but he

679
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: was the starter, you know, all through the spring summer,

680
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 4: we got the training camp, he was a starter, and

681
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 4: then I ended up starting before the first game.

682
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: But he didn't let that get in the way of

683
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: him mentoring me, teaching me little things.

684
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: It was just it was just great to have that

685
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 4: kind of mentorship early. So I mean that's what I

686
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 4: really remember the most because every time I see a

687
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 4: guy get drafted, I'm always looking at, well, who's his vets?

688
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 4: Like who are the guys that are gonna be you know,

689
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 4: and you don't know where that leadership for that mentorship

690
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 4: is gonna come from when you walk in the door,

691
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 4: because you don't know these guys, you just see them.

692
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: I didn't think Bruce Smith would take to me and

693
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 4: look at me as a potential Hall of famer like himself,

694
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 4: Like these guys were already Hall of Famer.

695
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: Before I ever stepped on the field with them.

696
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 4: So having that it really it really helped me early

697
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: on because I knew what success looked like and I

698
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 4: got the witness it.

699
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: Every day we talk about these Washington memories.

700
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: I always think of this photo that I see all

701
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: the time, because, as you know, I work with Fred

702
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: Smooth quite a lot, so you know, we're looking them

703
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: up and doing different things, and there's this photo of you,

704
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: Darryl Green and Fred Smooth walking down the field y'all

705
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: and y'all uniforms.

706
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: What was it like being a veteran, I guess when

707
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: you're still young as well. By having a young guy

708
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: like Smooth come into the building and come into the locker.

709
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: Room, I mean, it was, it was fun. It was

710
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: It was a lot of fun. We had a lot

711
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 4: of good time together. I think it gave a different dynamic.

712
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 4: But you know the thing about Smoothest, he was just

713
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: as hungry as I was. You know, he thought he

714
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 4: was the best. He played and practiced like it. And

715
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: I would like to think he took some of those

716
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: traits that I could show him at that young age

717
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 4: of how to be successful. Because I'm coming off my

718
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 4: first Pro Bowl and then he comes in, Dion goes out,

719
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: but Daryl's still there, so we do have our steady

720
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 4: hand at the top. You know, we all respected him

721
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 4: and you know his leadership. But here's Smooth who hasn't

722
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 4: changed a bit, so if you've been around and you

723
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: know how he was even back then, like it was

724
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: even worse back then, Like how loud and disruptive he were.

725
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 4: He was, but he but I think all in all,

726
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 4: what mattered the most is that he wanted to be

727
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: a great football player. He thought he was, and he

728
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 4: worked like it. And man, he was the most fun

729
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 4: teammate I've ever been around. Because it wasn't nothing. He

730
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: wasn't down to do it. So, you know, we had

731
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: some really good time together. I learned some things from him,

732
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: you know, just just little stuff, man, you know.

733
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: The way he played.

734
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 4: He couldn't do some of the things I could do,

735
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 4: and I couldn't do some things he could do.

736
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: Like it was just you know, as Darrel always had the.

737
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: Same man, there was no real book on how to

738
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 4: play corner like you got to figure out what works

739
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 4: for you. There's some things that are constant. But all

740
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 4: in all, man, we're all different. We all gonna get

741
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 4: it done differently.

742
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: And the same way you talk about Fred is the

743
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: same way he talks about you.

744
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 8: Man.

745
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: He revers you guys so much for being those Ojizu

746
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: just helped him out being those guys that helped him

747
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: just kind of ease his way into the NFL, because

748
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: that's a tough locker room to go in and compete with,

749
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: right when you got two guys that are really man

750
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: established like that, and you know now that you're back

751
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: in the fall, Man, let me tell you there's nobody

752
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: these fans love more than Fred Smooth. And I don't

753
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: know outside of you and Daryl, I don't know if

754
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: there's anybody that can give us those Fred Smooth stories.

755
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: So if you would give us just that one favorite

756
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: memory of your time in friendschoo, whether he's being crazy,

757
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: whether he's talking trash in the locker room, because we

758
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: hear stories all the time, but I'd love to hear

759
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: it from somebody else.

760
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 4: I never forget this one time. Well, I got two

761
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: little things for you, but one is more embarrassing for me.

762
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 4: One is kind of his personality. So you know, as rookies,

763
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 4: you know, I wouldn't say it was hazing, but we

764
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: would always make him do certain things. And I can't

765
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 4: remember what the demand was from Smooth, and he just

766
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 4: bust out, man, I'll take the physical challenge. And he

767
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 4: had no idea what he was getting himself into. So

768
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 4: we ended up taping him to the gold post. It

769
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: was just but it was smooth though. He was not

770
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 4: going to go down the traditional way. He's not gonna sing,

771
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 4: he's not gonna go get food. He didn't do he

772
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 4: didn't want to do anything. So he was just like,

773
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 4: I'll take the physical challenge. I'm like, I didn't know

774
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: what that meant. Of course, I'm not grabbing him and

775
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 4: taking him to the gold post, but I'm making sure

776
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: the big boys don't hurt him along the way, right.

777
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: So, but that was who he was.

778
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 4: But there's also this one incident. I was about to

779
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 4: be late for practice, and I don't know if Freddy

780
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: gonna remember this, but but I called Smooth. I'm on

781
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 4: the other side the beltway, and I'm like, Smooth, I'm

782
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: forty five minutes out.

783
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: Practice started fifteen minutes. Just tell coach. I'm in the

784
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: bathroom on the toilet, Like, just tell him.

785
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 4: So our coach at the time, I mean, you gotta think,

786
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 4: like I'm kind of established. I'm in my fourth or

787
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 4: fifth year at this point, and you know, I could

788
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 4: get away with some things.

789
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: But at the same.

790
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 4: Time, I'm accountable and I.

791
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: Never did and push the envelope.

792
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 4: But this one particular time, I just overslept up and

793
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 4: I'm on my way to the facility.

794
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm trying to you know, the belt Way unpredictable.

795
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm traffic weaving in and now trying to

796
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 4: go back to Potonac and just trying to get down

797
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: in Virginia to get the practice. And he held it

798
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 4: down for me till I got there. Of course, they

799
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 4: didn't ask a lot of questions. I remember running out

800
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: on the field, staying out there for about twenty minutes,

801
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 4: and running back in like I had to go to

802
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: the bathroom because I had to sell the story because

803
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 4: coach thought I had a messed up stothing could get

804
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 4: just be over like that.

805
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: So it was just one of them things, man. And

806
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: that's what Smooth was.

807
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 4: Man. Smooth looked out for me. I looked out for him.

808
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 4: And you know, I'll never forget those moments with him, okay, man.

809
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: And and then Fred talks about those moments a lot too, man.

810
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: So it's a member of love on both.

811
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: Sides of that.

812
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk to Hi about it. And

813
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure what y'all was taking him to the goal post.

814
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: He was talking trash deep.

815
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah the whole time, the whole time.

816
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: He didn't shut up one second of it. But it

817
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: was who he was and we all laughed too. You know,

818
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 4: nobody wanted to harm me. You just you know, sometimes

819
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 4: you gotta let rookies know.

820
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: It's great to hear those stories because some of you

821
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: guys were a true brotherhood.

822
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: And so then I gotta I gotta move forward to

823
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: you were traded.

824
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: You were traded for Clinton ports a lot of fans

825
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: to this day, one of my best friends is a

826
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: Washington fan, and he says it worst trade ever in

827
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: NFL history because they felt like they lost somebody they

828
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: truly loved. In a champ Bailey talk to us about

829
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: what you went through during that time. So I'm sure

830
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: you didn't see it coming, or maybe you did. I

831
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: know you loved playing here. How did that trade effect?

832
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: You bring us back then?

833
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 1: And you know what went down?

834
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: Well, at the.

835
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 4: Time, they you know, we were contract negotiating. Is you know,

836
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 4: really weird when you're playing. But I remember during that season,

837
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 4: my fifth year, my last year in Washington, they just.

838
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 3: Kept lowballing me.

839
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 4: And you know, I remember the last statement they told

840
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 4: my agent was you'll never get that what we were

841
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: asking for. So that's when they decided, Okay, well we're

842
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 4: gonna attempt to trade, and.

843
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: They franchised me. Then they didn't tempt to trade me.

844
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 4: I remember Joe Gibbs called me because he was becoming

845
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 4: in as a new coach and I never got to

846
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: play for him, but he called me.

847
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: It was like, I hope he worked this out, YadA YadA, But.

848
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 4: Of course he had no real saying how that was

849
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: gonna work out. We didn't have a relationship, so there

850
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 4: was no like loyal to I expected from him.

851
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: But long story short, man, it was just they decided

852
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 3: to trade me.

853
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 4: I told Denver what I wanted if I would because

854
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 4: I could have bucked the trade all together by not

855
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 4: signing the franchise tag.

856
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: Right, and Denver looked at the contract.

857
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, they wanted to pay me exactly what I was

858
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 4: asking for, so I was like, damn, I should ask

859
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 4: for more. But you know, at that time that was

860
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 4: good enough. But you know, it happened, and then you know,

861
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 4: I was a little upset with the fact that we

862
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: were losing porters. I was like, we can't trade somebody

863
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: else because I'm a running back fan. I grew up

864
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 4: playing running back. I played running back in high school.

865
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 4: I'm a running back fan and I love Clinton Ports.

866
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 4: So I'm like, damn, so we gotta go. I gotta

867
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 4: go to Denver. He's coming here. But I think the

868
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 4: icing on the cake was the second round pick, which

869
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 4: they eventually used to get Tatum Ball. So I was

870
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 4: feeling like, oh yeah, we got a we got a good,

871
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 4: good deal. We got this other fast back from from

872
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 4: Oklahoma State and it worked out. But at the time, man,

873
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: I did not want Porters to leave. Pray somebody else,

874
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 4: like anybody, but this guy, like I was a big

875
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 4: fan of his and what he did in his short career.

876
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he was coming off his second

877
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 4: season or something. I can't I can't remember, but he was.

878
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: He was all pro back, And for me, it was

879
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 4: just it was a little daunting because I didn't.

880
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 3: Know what to expect. I think Denver, I think snow,

881
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, now I'm going.

882
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: But I'm going to a team and a franchise that

883
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 4: had a good run up to that point and having

884
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: a great run game, always in the playoffs, just always

885
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 4: a winning pedigree. I'm like, it's just it just made

886
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 4: it made sense for me in that point in my

887
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 4: career that I make this lead and then, you know,

888
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 4: fortunate enough for guys at that point in their career

889
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: it's fifth sixth year when you moved to another team,

890
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: people look at you as a leader coming in, So

891
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 4: I had that respect walking in obviously, you know, big

892
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: responsibility to be a leader, going from a guy that

893
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: was kind of raised in Washington. But now I'm over

894
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 4: here and people think I've done as much as you

895
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: know most guys whole career, you know, So it's just

896
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 4: you know, the respect was there. You know they treated

897
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 4: me well, and you know it was the best thing

898
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 4: happened in my career to get traded.

899
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: But in that moment, right like now, we can look

900
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: back and say it's the best thing ever. But like

901
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: you said, you were raised in Washington, you loved it here.

902
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: Did that put a chip on your shoulder? Not just

903
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: getting traded but also you know, having to go through

904
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 2: these negotiations and then not really seeing your value.

905
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: Did all that put a chip on.

906
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: Your shoulder a little bit? A little bit?

907
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 4: You know, I wasn't really concerned with the past, and

908
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 4: it did. I think what bothered me is that they

909
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 4: didn't respect you know, what I had done, you know,

910
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: and it was like, you know, I've been the four

911
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 4: straight Pro Bowls in my five years there, you know,

912
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 4: and I was an alternate as a rookie. But I think,

913
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: you know, that really opened my eyes to what really matters,

914
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 4: and it was relationships.

915
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: And you know, they didn't draft me. Dan Snyder didn't

916
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: draft me.

917
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 4: He took over ownership in the summer after I got

918
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 4: drafted by Charlie Cassell. So when Cassley ended up leaving

919
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 4: before my rookie season, you know, there was no they

920
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: weren't loyal to me. I mean, if you remember they

921
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 4: drafted LeVar Arrington as Samuelson next year. Well, Lamar ended

922
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: up getting a new deal before I left, so you

923
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: know you could tell.

924
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: Where the loyalties lot.

925
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 4: I mean, and he deserved it, but I did too,

926
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 4: So it was just it was just obvious, you know,

927
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 4: I wasn't valued. So the best thing was for me

928
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 4: to leave and trust me. I told people all the time,

929
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: like I have equally as much Washington fans as Denver

930
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 4: fans come up to me to this day, tap me on.

931
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: The shoulder, talk about the trade.

932
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 4: It's equal and it's been like that since I left.

933
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 3: That was twenty years ago, so you know that. So there.

934
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: It's always been in the back of my mind to

935
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: be reacclimated with the franchise, but it really did take

936
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: new ownership to get that done.

937
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 2: And before we get onto you being back with the franchise,

938
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: we have to talk about that first ballot Hall of

939
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: Fame because clearly that trade led to what was a

940
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: race a great career, turned it into an amazing career,

941
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: and then you end up being a first ballot Hall

942
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: of Famer. From everything you've been through, man, all of

943
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 2: that stuff, even that trade, right, all of these things

944
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: being overlooked.

945
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: What did that.

946
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: Moment mean for you to be able to be on

947
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: that stage and get that gold jacket?

948
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 3: I mean it was amazing.

949
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm on that stage with some guys

950
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 4: I played with, some guys I grew up revering.

951
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it was dude, it.

952
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 4: Was amazing, And you know it's people tell me, used

953
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: to tell me all the time. You know, within those

954
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 4: five years I was retired before I'm eligible. Yeah, you're

955
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 4: going first ballot, But I never really bought into it

956
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: because I'm like, man, anything can happen like that. There's

957
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 4: nothing more I could do to change the minds of

958
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 4: these voters, you know.

959
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: But again it goes back to relationships.

960
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 4: Like I just remember being a guy in the locker

961
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 4: room that the media could always come up to.

962
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: And now who's voting the media. It's as simple as that.

963
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, that's that's funny because all these

964
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 4: these things carry over in life, and I'm like, oh, well,

965
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 4: football is a part of my life, so why does

966
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 4: it not exist here. I've seen so much evidence of

967
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 4: how much these relationships mean. And you know, I try

968
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 4: to tell guys all the time, no matter what, like

969
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: some point, your career is going to end, and what

970
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 4: your value is going to be based off the relationships

971
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 4: you've built. And I never got away from that. And

972
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 4: I'm lucky for me, it was natural for me. And

973
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people can see how some

974
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 4: guys get left off and not get looked at for

975
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame, and they deserve it.

976
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: There's so many guys that deserve to be in. But

977
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 3: I do think there's.

978
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 4: Some people that are not in because they don't have

979
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: the right They just didn't rub people the right way

980
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 4: for whatever reason.

981
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: Not that it's warranted, but it is what it is. Like,

982
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: that's just how it is, you know, and you know,

983
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: but I did.

984
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 4: I do think my resume spoke for itself. So just

985
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 4: based off game alone, yeah, you know, I felt like

986
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: I should have been in, but again it's not in

987
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: my control. So I felt good because we had three

988
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 4: first ballots on my in my class with Ed Reed

989
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: and Tony Gonzales, and then you throw Tylo in the mix. Man,

990
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 4: you're talking about a hell of a secondary. That was

991
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 4: a great class man. I was just happy to be

992
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: in Man with some guys I love watching.

993
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: Oh well deserved. Man, you were such a monster on

994
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: that field. And I'm sure Washington fans you know, they

995
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: missed you because we talked about this before we got on.

996
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: You had not been back to after being traded.

997
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: You had not The last time you had been in

998
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: Washington was O nine, you were playing for the Broncos

999
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: against US, and then you hadn't been back since until

1000
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: last season. New ownership comes in and decides we are

1001
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: going to make Champ Bailey our legend of the game

1002
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: for our very first home game as new ownership, which

1003
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: is I don't think people realize how big of a

1004
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: deal that is, especially somebody that hadn't been in the

1005
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: fold in a while.

1006
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: How much did that mean to you to be able

1007
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: to be back on that field, have all those.

1008
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: Burgundy and gold fans yell at you and cheer for

1009
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: you and just be so happy to see you. Man,

1010
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: What was that moment like for you after being separated

1011
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: for so long?

1012
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: It was amazing and it was overdue, you know.

1013
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 4: And I got to give you know, Tim Hottower and

1014
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 4: those guys a lot of credit for I mean, continuing

1015
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 4: to reach out. And you know, there were calls for

1016
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: me to come back, but again before new ownership, but

1017
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: it never felt right. And then when the team was sold,

1018
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: it just felt right at that time. It just they

1019
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 4: they made me feel like I was part of the family.

1020
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: And it never was a disconnection, because that's how close

1021
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 4: knit these circles are when it comes to former athletes

1022
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 4: and people you work with in this business. I mean,

1023
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: those bonds are strong. It's not it's not hard to reconnect.

1024
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 4: It's really not like we all could get around and

1025
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: talk about our times as a player or administrator or

1026
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 4: coach or whatever it may be. An owner, you know,

1027
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: and it's one of those circles you always want to

1028
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 4: be a part of. And I'm just happy to be

1029
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 4: a part of one of the most story franchises ever

1030
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 4: like this. I never wanted to disconnect, you know, from

1031
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 4: the franchise and you know, but if you're not valued

1032
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 4: in that way, then I'm not. I'm never going to

1033
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: force my way into somebody's house. That's just not who

1034
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 4: I am. But I got to give everybody there a

1035
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 4: lot of credit. Man, they're really changing the culture. It's

1036
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 4: been overdue. As you can tell.

1037
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: It's not hard to do that when when you have

1038
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 3: a team and a fan base like that.

1039
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 4: Like like I say, man, there's more people just as

1040
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 4: many people come up to me today about my time there,

1041
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 4: and there's been so many great players.

1042
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: Clint Porters wasn't wasn't a bus. They got something break

1043
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: out of that trade. So it wasn't like, yeah, it

1044
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: wasn't like I left for nothing like he was. He

1045
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 3: was a beast. So to be remembered, man, I mean,

1046
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: it's it's gratifying.

1047
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 4: Man.

1048
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 3: It means a lot.

1049
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: And your ogi's getting loved too. He will be having

1050
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: his jersey retired. I know you will be there for that, man,

1051
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: how awesome.

1052
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 4: He hit me the other day, asked me, was I coming? Like,

1053
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: what is he talking about?

1054
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: Of course I'm gonna be there. How big is that

1055
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: gonna be there? You're gonna be on that field with him.

1056
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: Man, you're gonna see all of his hard work, because you,

1057
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: better than anybody, have got to really see the work

1058
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: and the time he put into his craft. And now

1059
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: he's finally getting recognized. For man, how special is that

1060
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 2: gonna be for somebody that.

1061
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: Was his mentee?

1062
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 4: Look, man, this dude. The fact that he's having to

1063
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 4: wait this long is is.

1064
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: It's criminal. It doesn't make anything. But what people don't

1065
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: understand is we've been can connected.

1066
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 4: Since I've retired, a lot a lot more since I

1067
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 4: retired and over the years of my career, like we

1068
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: always stayed connected, and for me it was it was.

1069
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: It was easy.

1070
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 4: Because I looked up to him, not for what he

1071
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 4: did on the field, but more what he did off

1072
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 4: the field. It's charity work, the business that he's done

1073
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 4: since he's retired, and we worked with some of the

1074
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: same companies now, so it's nothing to do. Like I say,

1075
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 4: we never got disconnected, like he was always my mentor.

1076
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 4: It still is like, we make sure we are on

1077
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 4: the phone at least two or three times a year,

1078
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 4: no matter what we're texting about something. You know, he's

1079
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 4: presenting opportunities to me and vice versa. So it's there's

1080
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 4: always been that bond. So I'm just happy to finally

1081
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 4: see him get the recognition that's been overdue for all

1082
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: these years. Nobody should everwhere twenty eight have ever again

1083
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 4: on the whole league, Like it's he means that much

1084
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 4: to the younger generation and the career.

1085
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: That he had. I mean, this dude played twenty one years.

1086
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 4: Come on, man, you tell me your corner getting past

1087
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 4: fifteen These days it's not happening. So, I mean, I

1088
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 4: got a lot of respect for him. I'm just happy

1089
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 4: I could get there and witness it in person and

1090
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 4: watch him cry again because you know he I can

1091
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: tell this one got to him.

1092
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: You know, this one, this one really got to him.

1093
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: And it shows the love that you guys had for

1094
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: this organization and this fan base, the way that you

1095
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: guys get emotional on the way you got to show up.

1096
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: So thank you for sharing that. And of course we

1097
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Speaker 2: got to talk about today's game. We got a lot

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Speaker 2: of young secondary in there. We got kwalm Martin, we

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Speaker 2: got Mike Sanders Shill, we have emmanual Force, We have

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Speaker 2: all these young guys and a lot of things are changing.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about the lay of the land

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Speaker 2: now for Washington.

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Speaker 1: And how bright our future looks?

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Speaker 4: Well, looks great, I think, you know, defensively, we've always

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Speaker 4: had some good pieces, just and consistent, and I think

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Speaker 4: the one constant thing that we have been missing is

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Speaker 4: the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And we've had a good running game here and there.

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Speaker 4: And Brian Robinson looks like a beast for some reason. Man,

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Speaker 4: he just looked beast mood now for some reason. I

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00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 4: don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: He always was that he always wasn't just you.

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Speaker 3: Know, but it feels different.

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Speaker 4: It feels like he has another level of confidence that

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Speaker 4: I hadn't seen. He pops out on the screen to

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Speaker 4: me like and I feel like in some ways that

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Speaker 4: reflects the leadership that he has Silently. I don't know

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Speaker 4: who he is or what type of person he is,

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Speaker 4: but it just feels like he's energizing the team for

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Speaker 4: some reason. Now, don't get me wrong, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: obviously early in his career, but you know, one thing

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Speaker 4: about this league. If you've noticed, man, you got to

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Speaker 4: be mobile like that. All the good quarterbacks now have mobility.

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Speaker 4: I think the least mobile guy is Yo Borrow and

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Speaker 4: he can move a little bit. So I mean it's

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Speaker 4: if you don't have some mobility, you're not gonna win early.

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Speaker 4: And Jayden Daniels looks good in that pocket. But when

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Speaker 4: you can dial up a quarterback run here and there,

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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, like, I mean, it's dangerous, man. He creates

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Speaker 4: another headache for the defense, something else they gotta work on.

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Speaker 4: So you just never know what's coming at you. And boy,

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Speaker 4: coordinator got to be in heaven with a guy like this.

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Speaker 2: I think we are all at heaven, man, and we

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Speaker 2: cannot wait till Sunday's game against the Browns to see

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Speaker 2: them boys go out there and just continue to get better.

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Speaker 2: And before we let you go on Sunday as well

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Speaker 2: as Santanta Mans another guy that works with me and

1138
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Speaker 2: fred a lot, he will be the legend of the game.

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Speaker 2: And you were defensive back for a very long time,

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Speaker 2: so there's nobody prepared for receivers quite like you. Can

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00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: you give us a little bit of Santana Moss story,

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Speaker 2: something about Santanta mass when you would line up agains

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Speaker 2: him and playing what kind of player was he in?

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00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: How cool is it to see a OG like that

1145
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: get get on it, just like you were honored last season?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Fortunate though for me, I never had to match up

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Speaker 4: against him, so I didn't I didn't have to like

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Speaker 4: really tear into who he was. But you know, he

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Speaker 4: one thing you couldn't, you know, get away from or

1151
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 4: at least ignore, was his speed. I mean, he was

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Speaker 4: just one of those guys and he was always taking

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Speaker 4: the lid off the defense and just really putting pressure

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Speaker 4: on him. So I can remember preparing that week and

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Speaker 4: we were just always trying to figure out, like when

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00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 4: is he going deep? And I never forget he beat

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Speaker 4: me on a corner route. They were in some kind

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Speaker 4: of bunch formation or something and he was lined up

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Speaker 4: at the first receiver. Now, usually the first receive it

1160
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Speaker 4: don't go deep. He's usually the one going under or

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Speaker 4: run something short. And ran a corner from that number

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Speaker 4: one spot and I'm like, whoa hold on? And man,

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Speaker 4: like I say, man, this dude here, he's one of

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Speaker 4: those guys that's super underrated. We don't talk about enough

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Speaker 4: I mean every time his highlights pop up on my timeline,

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Speaker 4: I just sit I just sit there and watch him.

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Speaker 4: I mean, because he was amazing to watch. I only

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Speaker 4: played him that one I think that one. Maybe once

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Speaker 4: othern when he was with the Jets, but that that

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Speaker 4: one time I remember vividly.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: And it's so great just having legends like you guys

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Speaker 2: as part of this building. I think it speaks to

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Speaker 2: not only the fan based on how much you guys

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Speaker 2: are the fans, but just the people that you guys

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Speaker 2: are too.

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Speaker 1: Man so Champ. We're so happy to have you back

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Speaker 1: in the fall.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: We ain't gonna let you go. We're gonna hold on

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Speaker 1: to you tight now. Man chat. We're so happy to

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Speaker 1: have it.

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Speaker 3: Man, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Man, thank you for your time.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate having you on.

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Speaker 3: Man all right, Man, looking forward to seeing y'all peace.

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Speaker 2: Man Commanded, Sammy, we appreciate you watching this episode of

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Speaker 2: Next Man Up. You can stream every episode of Next

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Speaker 2: Man Up, even last seasons, on the Commander's YouTube page

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Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcast. Until Next Time Command

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Speaker 2: His Family. I'm Brian Corpa JUNR. And this is next

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Speaker 2: man up,