WEBVTT - One on One: Chase Kim 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.200 I Am all In. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:21.160 You, I Am all In with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.960 Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast, Want 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:28.960 of Production, iHeart Radio, iHeart Media, iHeart Podcast. One on 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:32.520 one interview with mister Chase Kim. He was in one 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.760 episode of the show. He played Lane's uncle Joe in 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:39.960 just like Gwen and Gavin. He was born in Los 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:44.920 Angeles and raised in other countries as well. He initially 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.320 chose to pursue a career in business and graduated from 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:50.960 University of California, San Diego with a BA in History 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.479 and political Science in nineteen ninety seven. However, after spending 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.720 more than six years at his job in San Francisco, 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:02.040 New York, Dallas, in Chicago, Chase decided to switch careers 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.600 and became an actor and Steady debuted in two thousand 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:08.080 and three in an uncredited guest star role as a 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.480 Korean handler in the series The West Wing, and went 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:15.040 on to be cast in dozens of other roles since then. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:20.200 His roles included Criminal Minds, Magnum p I, Hawaii Five O, 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:25.000 Ritzolian Isles, and Bosh, Let's bring Him in Here. He 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.479 is Chase Kim Chase. How you doing. 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:30.000 I'm great. How are you, Scott? 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.280 Good? Good good, Nice to meet you and thanks thanks 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.920 for coming on. First off, how'd you get your role 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.080 on Gilmore Girls? 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:42.440 Well, it was pretty much the very standard auditioning process. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.920 This was pretty early in my career, so I started 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.800 acting kind of a little bit later in my life. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.880 I think I was in my late twenties at the time, 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.480 and this was pretty much one of my kind of. 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:57.000 First TV roles and I just audition. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:00.000 I had to pre read with probably fifty other guys, 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.960 guys that kind of looked like me, and then I 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.000 got the call back and went to the bungalow over 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:10.440 there at Warner Brothers. And the funny story about that 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.600 audition is that I was getting ready to go in 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.680 and Mara Casey, who is who was one of the 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.720 casting directors on the show, came out before I read 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:26.600 and pulled me aside and said, Hey, everybody really loved 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.640 what you did on the in the first call, but 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:35.120 you need to talk faster. And I said, okay, I'd 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.200 never gotten a note like that before, and she just said, no, 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.120 you just have to fly through the words like no pausing, 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.280 You just have to talk faster, and I remember thinking, man, 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.800 that's a really odd note to give to an actor 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.160 that's about to go into an audition, But I tried 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.600 my best to kind of speed through it and and 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:54.480 I got the call that had gotten the role, So 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:55.480 that was pretty exciting. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.560 Was that one of your first gigs that you booked. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.560 I want to say that was probably like my second 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:06.640 or third TV gig that I'd booked, but it was 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.040 definitely like the biggest one that it was the first 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.560 one that had a name for sure, right, because all 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.799 the other ones were like just like a description of 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.799 a character, like cop Number one or something like that, 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.480 and this was the first character that had an actual name. 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.120 And had Were you familiar with the show? How had 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:23.640 you been aware of the show? 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:25.799 I definitely was aware. I was. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.120 I don't I wouldn't call myself a fan of the 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:32.320 show going in, but I knew the show and I 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:33.920 knew that it was kind of a big deal at 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.600 the time, and I had pretty big viewership, so I 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:37.960 was definitely excited for the part. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.760 How did your family react when you told them that 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:44.760 you booked, Because I know you came from the business 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.000 world and into acting late A little later in life, 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:51.160 I did the same thing. Actually, yeah, And how did 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.760 your parents react to that or your siblings or siblings? 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:59.960 You know, it's funny because in the Lane Scare Lane 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.960 her Keiko's character on the show being Korean and all that, 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.600 and my family is definitely very stereotypically Korean, and my 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:10.840 mom is like very stoic, and even at that point, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.160 she probably wasn't all that supportive of me being an actor. 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:17.560 She was probably just like ah, But when she started 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.080 to see me more and more actually on TV than 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.840 she started to kind of accept it. But to this day, 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:26.760 like Korean moms are not very easy with the compliments, 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.920 so it's like maybe like a knowing nod and a 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.680 wry smile or something like that, but nothing outwardly like 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.640 she was proud of me or anything like that. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.839 You know. Staying on that subject, how did you feel 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:42.760 that Koreans were depicted in Gilmore Girls? Did you were 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:46.800 you ever at all offended by stereotypes or did you 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.080 think it was a pretty accurate depiction. No. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.359 I thought it was definitely a very accurate depiction. I 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.839 thought the relationship between the mom and the daughter I 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.240 thought was depicted very accurately in a sense that there 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.599 was obviously the underlying life and everything, but she was 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.920 very hard on the daughter, and the daughter didn't really 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.599 understand the mom very well. And I think that kind 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.440 of cultural gap for the first generation Korean Americans definitely exists. 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.839 So I thought it was done very accurately. And I 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:18.320 found the wedding episode to be very humorous because it's 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.920 very accurate, like they go to the ceremony and they 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.360 all basically just eat and they want to go home. 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:30.039 I was particularly moved when Lane was back in the 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:35.640 house after living with the band, back with her mom 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.520 and they had that and Lane stood up for herself 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.520 in a very vocal way on the staircase, and then 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.680 the mother said, Lane, come down here right now, and 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:53.719 they shared some ceremonial drink. And is that part of 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:54.440 your culture? 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:56.760 Well, I think the drinking. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:01.080 There's a heavy drinking culture in Korean and the Korean culture, I. 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.400 Mean that particular ceremony is that is did that, Sarah? 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.320 Because we speculated on what that really meant because that 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:12.760 just happened a couple episodes ago. Okay, so was A 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:19.000 what what were they drinking? And B was that a 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.920 rite of passage? Was that a ritual that that families, 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.120 Korean families do once their children they feel their children 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.279 have become grown ups. 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.160 Yeah, well, I don't think there's like an official thing, 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.960 but what they were drinking is probably more than ninety 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.880 nine percent sure. It was probably so ju, which is 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.560 like a rice wine, okay, and it's kind of like vodka. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.560 A lot of times in this day and age day, 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.560 places that don't have a full liquor license will use 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:47.800 sod you to make like. 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:48.800 Cocktails and whatnot. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:53.960 And then but there is definitely a time when it 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.760 becomes acceptable to like drink around your parents. 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:58.440 And it's like when. 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:02.080 You're young, it's kind of not looked upon favorably, but 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.160 like when you become an adult, I think you definitely 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.400 are able to kind of show that side of yourself. 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.360 No very moving scene. That's one of my that's my 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.440 favorite Lane and Missus Kim scenes. And there are a 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:19.320 lot to choose from. Yeah, so Stars Hall, it was 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.320 all dressed up for the Winter Carnival for your day? 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.160 Yes, absolutely? 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.160 How did that feel when you walked onto the set? 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:28.680 It's pretty impressive, isn't it. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:29.280 Yeah? 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.520 I mean the way they go all out obviously, like 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.000 you know, there was snow on the ground, and it 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.480 actually was pretty. It was I want to say, it 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.840 was like right around this time of year when we shot, 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.720 and it was at night, and I remember being unseasonably 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:46.680 cold for California and so being out there and you 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.280 can see your breath, and so it really felt real. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.120 Because I know I've talked to people that have been 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:52.760 on the show when it was supposed to be winter 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.880 and you're in coats and it's like eighty degrees out. 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.000 I'm sure you had to do it as well, where 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.560 it's like it doesn't feel real because it's so high outside. 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.680 But on the night the Knights that I shot, it 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:03.680 felt totally real. 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:11.840 So we were we were discussing the scene. We were 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:17.080 discussing the scene with you and Zach at the bottle toss. Yeah, 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.960 he says that line, welcome to the s h yes, 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:26.160 bio technic itch Yeah, okay, we'll just say that I 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.760 can't say the word okay, And we know that that 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.080 is a callback to the series ec Did you know 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.000 right away what that reference was? 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.640 I did, I mean, but it was funny because that 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.800 scene itself played out kind of funny because you know, 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.480 I'm supposed to be playing it like I don't know 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.440 what I'm doing and I don't want to be embarrassed, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.240 and I just go out there and I'm like softly 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.320 tossing at the balls and he here he comes, just 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:55.480 like firing the balls at the bottles, and the balls 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.840 were flying all over the place on the day, and 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.360 it was like, and I think there was a little 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.720 bit of when Sally Strether's character is like, oh, you're 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.760 gonna hit the girls, you know, at the dime toss 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:06.280 or whatever. 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:08.280 There was a little bit of that because he was 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:09.360 firing him pretty hard and. 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.240 Yeah, he looked like he's got a good army. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.480 They were bouncing all over the place, so it was 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:15.160 kind of funny. 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:20.640 Yeah, and uh and coincidentally, he had a role on 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.600 The OC for three episodes and was that booked around 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:26.040 the same time you appeared on Gilmore. 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:32.520 I booked the OC after that, so I want to 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.000 say it was like the next maybe towards the beginning 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.520 of the next year. I booked the OC, but I 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.800 was actually supposed to be in the wedding episode of Gilmore, 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.680 but there was a scheduling conflict with the OC and 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:45.520 I couldn't. 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:46.440 Do it right. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:46.920 Uh. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.240 Yeah, which which whose wedding? Which wedding? 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:51.120 Uh for a Lane's wedding. 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:52.920 Oh Lane's wedding gotchah. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:53.640 So I was supposed to. 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.080 Be one of the career Yeah, the Korean family members 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.280 coming back to the wedding, And I doubt I had 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.640 a whole bunch to do at that episod, But I 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.640 certainly wanted to do it because, like I said, it 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.600 was still pretty early on in my career and you're 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.320 trying to eat as much as possible. 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.600 What was it like working with Keiko? 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:14.520 And it was great. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.280 You know, she is such a such a just a 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:22.200 kind nice person in general. And subsequently we've become friendly 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:26.560 through other friends. I became really good friends with Sean Gunn, 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:31.160 who obviously plays Kirk and and so we'd meet at 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.120 his house for gatherings and stuff, and we you know, 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:38.160 became very friendly afterwards. But she was so nice to 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.440 work with, and like I said, I was still very green, 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:44.480 so I was like, you know, just trying to not 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.520 get anything wrong. When I was on set, I was 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:47.800 just kind of like, all right, I just want to 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.000 make sure I don't mess up. 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:50.520 I don't want to, you know. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.120 So it was definitely you know, I would treat it 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.160 a lot differently, you know, if I was on a 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:56.080 show like that today. 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:11.160 Right, So Zach called you the Korean Brad Pitt, which 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.160 is like, yeah, I would say that's a compliment. 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:15.600 There's two little references. 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.520 I think there's a reference to George Clooney and there's 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:19.760 a reference to Brad Pitt. 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:20.360 That's right. 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:24.520 Wow. So you basically covered all the bases there for 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:30.480 Oceans the Oceans films exactly. What's your favorite memory from 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:31.320 being on the set? 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:32.319 You know? 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.880 I mean the absolute favor is just getting that call 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:36.880 from my agent that I had booked it, obviously, but 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:41.440 then being on the set I do remember because Starzola 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.960 was like set up for the carnival. I just remember 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.480 walking out of my trailer after getting dressed and just 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.320 like feeling the kind of grandness of it all right. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:52.480 And like I said, it was still early on in 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.240 my career, so I was excited to be there to 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.960 begin with. But then you walk out and there's actually 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:59.720 like a full on carnival scene going on. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:04.920 Was very cool, you know, I I he just reminded 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:14.040 me of how large that set truly was. Because you're 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.800 we're we were used to it. So it didn't. It 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.679 didn't intimidate us, and it didn't. We were just kind 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:21.960 of delighted by it, used to it and that's that's 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:26.160 our office, and this is But we had more real estate. 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.200 We had the entire back lot at Warner Brothers. We 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.679 had three sound stages, we and we kind of we 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:35.760 we had more real estate dedicated to Gimmore Girls and 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:40.840 any other production, even films. Absolutely, we didn't walk around 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:42.480 feeling like we were the kings of the studio by 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:46.360 any stretch of the imagination. But now you make me 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:50.319 realize as kind of a newbie coming into this situation, 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.360 seeing this scope and the size of this and the 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:57.640 detail of these sets and all the real estate, it 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.680 must have been really impactful. It's been really something for you. 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:04.200 Yeah, absolutely, because I think even now as somebody that's 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:08.480 done a lot more work since then, Like, there's no 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.040 way any TV show would have that on a lot. 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:12.959 That would be like a location shoot or. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.760 Something, right, I mean, like, but if you go back 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.720 and watch Gilmore Girls, you guys have a lot. Always 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:20.520 had a lot of stuff that seemed like it should 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.480 be on location, but it was just that huge set. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:30.200 Well, yeah, we certainly were able to save while the 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.559 producers were able to Warner Bros. Were able to save 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.480 a ton of money just having a dedicated space like 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.560 that for sure, because going on location and do all 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:41.880 that stuff is you know, you double that budget. Was 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.680 there a point in your career, in your business career 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.200 that you said, I can't do this anymore? I mean, 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:52.679 obviously it did happen, but would tell us take us 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:53.480 through that a little bit. 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.360 Well, you know, I graduated college of ninety seven when 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:01.200 it was like right on the cusp of the huge boom, 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:05.040 So it was like, you know what kids are going 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.280 through these days in terms of trying to find a job. 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.880 It was unheard of, Like there was all these job 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:14.079 fairs at college, and you pretty much had three or 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.360 four job offers coming out of school. Everybody that I 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.640 knew did. And so I took that route and kind 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.800 of went the tech tech route and jumped around a 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.160 couple of different places. Lived in Dallas for a little bit, 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.240 in San Francisco, but by the time I'd made it 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.600 back to Los Angeles, which is where I'm from, I 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.680 was working for a company in Pasadena and also living 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.640 just down the street in Pasadena, and I remember the 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.080 five minute commute to work just being the most miserable time, 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:47.520 like just just trekking down the street, going like, man, 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:48.400 what am I doing? 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:48.680 Like this? 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.840 I'm just gonna go sit there on this desk for 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.640 nine hours and it's going to suck, right, And I remember, 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.960 and I think the blessing that ended up happening is 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.280 that that job or that company ended up kind of 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:05.920 the investors pulled their funding and so the company just 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.920 went belly up, and so I basically had to figure 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:11.960 something out of that point. And that's when I decided, 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:13.360 you know what, I'm going to take this time to 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:17.680 really figure out what I want to do, and landed. 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.520 On given acting a go and and so and here 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.560 I am, And so. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:23.000 What did you do? 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:24.440 You got into an acting class? 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.200 I did you know? I first I moved. I moved 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.240 to Spain for a little bit just to clear my head. 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.440 I you know, I was single at the time, interesting, 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:34.360 and I took some of the severance money and I 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.240 just like moved moved to Barcelona for like six months. 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.200 And during that time, I just kind of I didn't 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:41.920 do anything. I really just like read. 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.600 Books and listened to music and travel around Europe for 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.720 a little bit and came back thinking, you know what, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.240 I'm going to give this a go. And so I 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:53.040 went into an on camera acting class and just started 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:53.840 grinding from there. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:59.600 Nice. So do you was there an actual moment that 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.640 you read call that sparked this desire to change careers 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.760 or was it just the sort of the sum total 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:09.400 of the boredom and the lack of passion And yeah, 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.960 I think it was going into the office gun. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.600 Yeah, I think it was just a cumulative effect, you know. 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.680 And I was a child of the eighties, and I 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.400 grew up just kind of I was a latchkey kid, 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.040 and I watched a ton of TV, and I was 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:27.360 always fascinated by TV. And I remember people ask me 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.120 all the time, like, what, you had nothing in your 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.240 history that says that you would become an actor, Like 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.400 I didn't do theater growing upup. I didn't do any 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.200 of those things, you know. I kind of I was 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.320 more of a jock. I played baseball, football like and 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.640 but I do remember as a kid, I watched a 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.720 ton of TV and I just would get lost in 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:49.640 it and think, man, that would be a really cool 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.880 thing to do, right, And then many years later it 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:53.840 kind of caught up with me. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.160 Was your family supportive? What was their reaction? 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.320 Yeah, my mom was definitely. You know, my dad when 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.320 I was fairly young, and so it was just my 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.280 mom at the time, and my mom was always she's 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.360 never too high or too low, and she said, well, 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.080 do you know if you think this is what you 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.359 want to do, And she was always kind of skeptical, 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.920 and like I said, until I started to appear on 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.000 her TV a little bit more, I think she was 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.040 definitely thinking maybe it was a phase or something like that. 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.920 But yeah, she's definitely been very supportive. 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.200 Right, right, What positions did you play in baseball? 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:29.879 I was kind of a utility guy my senior year 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.879 in high school. I caught and played outfield and played 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:33.960 a little bit of third base. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.080 Gotcha, Yeah, I know you're a baseball player too, right, 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.560 I was, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:44.480 Yes, so difficult, the difficult profession to earn a living in. 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.400 Yeah, unless your name is shoey Otani. 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:48.760 And then. 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:54.679 Tell us what you're working on now. 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:56.399 Well, since the. 0:17:56.440 --> 0:18:00.399 Strike ended, it has been lots of audition requests coming in, 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.960 which is good, but it's also like I was talking 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.360 with my wife before and I said, man, I kind 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:10.119 of was hoping that this would go through the holiday 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.680 season so I could have like a peaceful December. 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.560 But as soon as that strike ended, it was like, oh, 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.000 can you take for this? Can you take for that? 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.920 Which is all good problems to have, but I did. 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.359 I worked on a I did a few days on 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:29.240 a feature film last year about this time, and just 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:30.920 found out that it got into Sundance. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:31.800 So that's pretty exciting. 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:33.560 Oh nice, So you're going to go to Sundance and 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:34.320 support the film. 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.160 I doubt it. I didn't have that big a part 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.119 in it, but I will support it from afar. 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.679 Well, at least you're there. I mean, yeah, that's something 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:43.959 that's that's pretty exciting. 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:46.040 Yeah, it's a it's a fun little It was a 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:51.080 fun little movie called Thelma and June Squib, who's like 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.280 ninety something, was the lead in it. It was a cool, 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:59.960 really fun script written about an elderly person that gets 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:04.080 scammed by one of these internet scammers. But she decides 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:05.840 that she's going to get back what she lost, so 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.240 she like becomes like a little bit of a vigilante 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:09.560 and goes after these people. 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:11.840 Yes, it's pretty funny. 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.239 Wow, what's the name of that again, we'll look out 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:14.560 for what. 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.920 Is it's a movie called Thelma. Yep. 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:28.879 Okay, we're gonna do a little thing called rapid Fire. Not. 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.560 You don't necessarily have to be quick with your answers. Okay, 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:37.919 I don't want to trigger your Gilmore anxiety here? How 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:39.160 do you like your coffee? 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:43.640 If I'm drinking coffee, it's gonna be probably just black. 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:45.800 I'm not a huge coffee guy, but more of a 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:46.720 diet coke guy. 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:50.160 Are you Team Logan, Team Jess or Team Dean? 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.520 My wife told me if if anybody asked me that, 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:54.800 I got to say team Logan. 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:59.920 There you go, smart woman. We like Logan a lot 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.320 over well, we like them all, but we really like Loagan. 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:07.280 Who's your favorite? The Gilmour girls couple, Luke and LARELEI 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:08.840 or Emily and Richard? 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.840 Oh, Luke and Laurel I thank you very much. 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.320 Would you rather work with Michelle or Kirk? 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:17.920 I think I'm gonna have to say Kirk because he's 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.919 his buddy. He's we'd have we'd have a blast. 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.680 Yeah, that's right, there you go. What would you I 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.359 see Sean a lot on the convention circuit. I just 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:28.040 saw him, you know, a week ago. 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:28.640 Yeah. 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.800