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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Cutting the Distance podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dirk Durham and my co host Jason Phelps.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for having me again. This is a common

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Speaker 2: I'm a common guest for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uncommonly common.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the low hanging fruit. You're not You're

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Speaker 2: not digging deep for experts on the subject matter. We're

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Speaker 2: just happened to be hunting together last two a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks and you're like, hey, I'll get I'll get

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Speaker 2: Phelps on. That would be easy. But I claim definitely

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Speaker 2: do not claim to be an expert on the subject today.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you've kind of been saying a week

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Speaker 1: about what a white tail expert you were. You might

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Speaker 1: have a little bit a little bit braggadocious about it.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, we're in Kansas white tail hunting. It's we

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Speaker 1: got here November fourteenth, and tomorrow is the twenty second

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Speaker 1: and we're wrapping things up heading home. It's been a

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Speaker 1: crazy week and we last year we were here about

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Speaker 1: a week earlier, and I feel like we've seen different

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Speaker 1: activity every day as far as deer movement, so the

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest factors. It's different this year though,

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Speaker 1: Besides the time, is also the weather we're having. It's

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Speaker 1: it's been hot. Like when we first got here. I

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Speaker 1: think we had three days that the highs were in

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Speaker 1: the seventies and in the mornings it was probably in

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Speaker 1: the forties. So you had to dress kind of warm

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Speaker 1: for the mornings. But then by the time you were

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Speaker 1: getting ready to get out of the stand to go

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Speaker 1: to lunch, you're probably trying to shed some layers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was unseasonably hot. We came from

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Speaker 2: last year teens the low twenties, you know, high pressure

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Speaker 2: all the time, north winds, which you know they claim

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Speaker 2: around here. You know, for the same temperature you got

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Speaker 2: some moisture in them, tend to be cooler. Coming to

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Speaker 2: this year, we're I want to hunt in shorts and

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Speaker 2: a T shirt. I don't want to be out. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's it is hot in the middle of the day,

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Speaker 2: but then you have to start off with those forty

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Speaker 2: degree days, so very contrasting weather. We show up very

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Speaker 2: hot to start the hunt, and you know, well we'll

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Speaker 2: get into it a little bit more about how you

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Speaker 2: couple that weather with our our our timing with the rut.

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Speaker 2: You know, last year we were here ten days earlier.

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Speaker 2: This year, we're here ten days later. Kind of seemed

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Speaker 2: to hit that peak rut lockdown phase and all of

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Speaker 2: that added together with some of the other issues, you know,

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Speaker 2: drought and EHD, we're going to talk about a little

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Speaker 2: bit at the end of this. It rolled up to

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Speaker 2: see luss dear, moving, lust, dear in general, perceived less dear,

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Speaker 2: you know, all of those things which made for longer

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Speaker 2: days in the stand a little bit more of a

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Speaker 2: I want to say, frustrating hunt. It's still hunting. I

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Speaker 2: have a I have a blash just watching the woods

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Speaker 2: wake up and squirrel's doing there, you know, whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: But in the end, you really want to see, you know,

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Speaker 2: deer and hopefully get a chance at a big deer

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Speaker 2: chase and be completely different weather when we show it

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Speaker 2: up here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And in fact, like the first evening Dusty and

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Speaker 1: I set in the stand then I had these big

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Speaker 1: heavy fleece coveralls, bibs and jacket, and man, I took

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Speaker 1: the jacket off and zipped the zip the the bibs

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Speaker 1: clear to my ankles, and Dusty's like whoa, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 1: that's way too much skin for this close contact. And

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Speaker 1: a blind. But it was that hot, man. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna die if I didn't. Contrast to the year before,

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Speaker 1: we couldn't hardly put off put on enough clothes. I

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Speaker 1: had some new bibs that didn't get shipped to my

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Speaker 1: house in time. I had had to have my wife

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Speaker 1: They got here about the same day we were heading back.

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Speaker 1: So I was kind of cold in the blind last year.

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Speaker 1: So yep, Yeah, it seemed like moonfase two didn't really

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Speaker 1: kind of a darker moon all week. You get kind

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Speaker 1: of a little slivery. You know, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: hinge everything they do on a moon phase, but I

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Speaker 1: feel like that's a pretty good moon phase for deer movement.

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Speaker 1: They weren't up all night, you know, partying.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it seemed to we didn't really notice that.

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Speaker 2: You know. The other thing moon phase is we drive around,

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Speaker 2: go to dinner. You know, you can if it was

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Speaker 2: affecting it, you'd see more deer in the fields. It

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Speaker 2: just seems it's kind of be a real consistent number.

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Speaker 2: So I wouldn't from what we've seen versus trail cameras

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Speaker 2: to the moon phase really didn't, you know, drastically impact

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in our stands there were they were more set

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Speaker 1: maybe pre rut or post rut, but not like that

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Speaker 1: hard to we're not on a guided hunt or anything.

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Speaker 1: We're just hunting a friend's house. He had some stands

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Speaker 1: he had hung before, but it's it'd be a lot

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Speaker 1: like that where we might have seen a little more

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Speaker 1: dear movement, but we didn't. We weren't really set up

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Speaker 1: for for a two guys set up. So next year

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Speaker 1: or next time, I don't know if he'll draw the

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Speaker 1: tag again, but next time we're definitely gonna come prepared

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Speaker 1: with maybe some tree saddles for the camera guys, and

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Speaker 2: That way, I'm stoked we Randy seemed to be real

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Speaker 2: excited on uh, you know, next spring, if we can

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Speaker 2: draw a turkey tag. It sounds like we have to

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Speaker 2: draw ding turkey tag now and cats where you used

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Speaker 2: to be able to buy one. So it's a little wrench,

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Speaker 2: but Randy seemed really excited to uh work when we're

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Speaker 2: draw it to like go, he wants to kind of

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Speaker 2: almost like a reinventory of stands, pull down stands that

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Speaker 2: he doesn't hunt anymore, figure out what he's got, and

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Speaker 2: then really look at some some rust and placement, you know,

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Speaker 2: really come down to the pitch points. Now that he's

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Speaker 2: owned the properties for more than twenty years, he's really

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Speaker 2: to be a part of that where I feel like,

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Speaker 2: right now we show up and just hunt what he

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Speaker 2: already has put together, where if we can be somewhat

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Speaker 2: he's even been asking us now. Don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 2: Randy knows his deer better than anybody does, but for

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Speaker 2: us to get to sit and stands for days at

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Speaker 2: a time and say, you know, hey, I think these deer,

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Speaker 2: these deer want to come down this ridge. They're traveling

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Speaker 2: over there, hanging out there. I think if we set

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Speaker 2: these more mature bucks. Like to have a little bit

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Speaker 2: of input on some stand placement will be way more

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Speaker 2: rewarding to come back and hunt those. And you know,

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Speaker 2: like you said, next time, whether it is next year

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Speaker 2: versus to have a little input will be will be

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Speaker 2: a blast, and I think it'll just be exciting, especially

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Speaker 2: to be able to like we we needed to be

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Speaker 2: tighter to bedding, We needed to be down in those

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Speaker 2: pinch points travel corridors where a lot of these stands

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Speaker 2: were set up. You know, Randy, Randy says it all

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Speaker 2: the time you asked him. He's like, I killed my

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Speaker 2: But I don't know, I think if we we do

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Speaker 2: to just you know, witness that or be in an

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, that's and that's half the fun, or

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Speaker 1: a lot of the fun is just is doing the

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Speaker 1: off season work. You know, I have so much fun,

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Speaker 1: you know, for doing that with ELK, trying to figure

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Speaker 1: them out in the summertime, you know, putting cameras out

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Speaker 1: identifying those places here, coming back in the springtime, putting

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Speaker 1: all those things, and then coming back and getting to

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Speaker 1: hunt those stands. I mean, that'd be so rewarding, so

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Speaker 1: much fun, and it's just like, you know, then you

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Speaker 1: and and and then you feel like, you know, it's like, man, Randy,

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Speaker 1: he's got to do all this work and by himself,

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Speaker 1: and I kind of feel like a jerk showing up here,

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Speaker 1: you know, just you know, reaping the fruits of his labor. Right. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be awesome if we could come out

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Speaker 2: And just just to help him clean I say, clean up,

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Speaker 2: but you know he's got ladder stands kind of scattered

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Speaker 2: help it. You know, it's a lot of work to

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Speaker 2: like just to put in some sweat equity of like hey, Randy,

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Speaker 2: we'll go in grab that stand, or we'll grab take

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Speaker 2: this stand down, you know, just just to help and

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Speaker 2: then have a little bit of input, I think would

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Speaker 2: be it's part of that that you know, pre work

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Speaker 2: that that goes into making the hunt so much fun

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Speaker 2: and enjoyable and being in the right spotter on the X.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and if you got three or four guys

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Speaker 1: doing the work, it's way easier than just one or two,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, that's that's a lot of work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: Randy like the amount of property he has and how

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Speaker 2: many stands like it, it's a lot of work to

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Speaker 2: manage the property that Randy has. And so I'd love

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Speaker 2: to be able to give back a little bit and

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Speaker 2: help him if we.

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Speaker 1: Can, yeah, absolutely, just to kind of like talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit more about the kind of deer there is here.

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Speaker 1: You know, Randy manages his property for mature bucks, right,

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Speaker 1: so he doesn't say, all right, guys, you can only

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Speaker 1: shoot one hundred and seventy inch buck. He doesn't talk

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Speaker 1: three and a half year old deer. He's like, I

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Speaker 1: really love you guys to shoot like a five and

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Speaker 1: a half year old deer. So we're which kind of

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Speaker 1: when when deer come into the stand because immediately you know,

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Speaker 1: you're assessing. You know, a four and a half year

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Speaker 1: old deer can have a pretty nice rack, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of times they could be on that borderline of

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Speaker 1: like in a year or two, that's it's going to

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Speaker 1: One thing I kind of watched those bucks do this

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Speaker 1: They they don't even walk up to the corn pile.

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Speaker 2: I guess yeah, those big bucks just they a lot

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Speaker 2: they're not stopping to eat corn. Right. They may go

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Speaker 2: Are their dose there? If not, if they can't win

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Speaker 1: And that wind, the wind is a huge thing so

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Speaker 1: us Western hunters we have our thermals that we hunt

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Speaker 2: Yeap, And there's like we come out here limited days.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got seven days to hunt. You're going

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Speaker 2: I think I don't know we got what every day

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Speaker 2: which not that Randy doesn't have great south stands, but

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Speaker 1: Right, And I think that's just kind of how the

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Speaker 1: They couldn't have done that. They'd had they had had

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Speaker 1: Then that north wind, it was just money.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, high pressure north wind seemed to get everything

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Speaker 2: low pressure in that little storm system. Definitely what I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this morning it was pretty overcast, cold, pretty windy,

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Speaker 1: They seem to be comfortable with it.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, And you know we hunted here last year

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Speaker 2: Chris Paris Randy like them Kansas deer. They love their wind.

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Speaker 2: You know, they don't want to hunt on a five

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Speaker 2: ten to fifteen, and the deer here they're used to

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Speaker 2: Seems seems to be, you know, just what you need

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Speaker 2: it seems like here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So once thing's cleared off this afternoon, we got

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Speaker 2: So we get there about one last night of the hunt.

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Speaker 2: You look at your watch, You're like, all right, I've

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Speaker 2: the group of ten long beards all showed up, so

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Speaker 2: we ended up with about fifty or sixty turkeys in

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Speaker 1: It sounds like like that scene off Anchorman when Ron

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Speaker 1: their big gang fight. It seems like that's kind of

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Speaker 1: like what was going on with the turkeys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the one group of hands. So we don't

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Speaker 2: a lot of times we've just found out sometimes I

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Speaker 2: hunt now, heck with these turkeys on them. In April,

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Speaker 2: we have a little dough come in same trowl we

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Speaker 2: so real, real low just sitting on a food plot.

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Speaker 2: Comes behind us, wins us. I'm like, wow, that was

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Speaker 2: an ideal. She's supposed to come out in front of us,

431
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 2: like we have great wind for this food plot. Then

432
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 2: we're greeted by what one of the one of the

433
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,959
Speaker 2: bucks we knew was in the area. He comes out

434
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 2: at about eighty seventy to eighty yards out to my

435
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 2: left and doesn't he's chasing. He's just running these ridges.

436
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 2: He has no intention of slowing up. He's gone. He

437
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,239
Speaker 2: leaves the field about one hundred yards and sit there

438
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 2: for another twenty minutes. She's like, come on, like shadows

439
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 2: are hitting the field, like deer should be moving. Now.

440
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 2: We got a little micro eight point show up. So

441
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 2: for anybody back west, and it depends on where he

442
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 2: got out west where I would from, I would call

443
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: it a three point with iye guards. Dirk would count

444
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: the highgrads and call it a four point, and I

445
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: would call it eastern count a micro eight point. So

446
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 2: very small, like twelve inch year and a half old deer.

447
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 2: Maybe good genetics. But he walks out a little more nervously,

448
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 2: kind of gets gets down to where that butt crossed

449
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 2: and he follows him. So maybe a hot dough went

450
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: through there earlier. Maybe just their their travel ight out.

451
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 2: So we're sitting there waiting and Dave. Dave kind of

452
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 2: jokingly says, next year comes out, it'll be the shooter like, yeah, right,

453
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: you know, what are the chances of that? Just you

454
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: know there'll be a dough and then maybe he'll come

455
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 2: out later. So we're sitting there, maybe twenty minutes goes by.

456
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: It's about four point thirty. I'm sitting in the blind,

457
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 2: and if you haven't set these redneck blinds before, you've

458
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,479
Speaker 2: got an archery window kind of in the corner, an

459
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: archery window in the corner, and then you've got what

460
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 2: I would consider like a gun window in the middle.

461
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 2: So I sit in the left side of the blind

462
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: because the right handed shooter, I can shoot out the

463
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: right window, I can shoot out the front, and if

464
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: I needed to, I can kind of lean forward and

465
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: shoot out the window of my left. But as I'm

466
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: sitting in my chair, I don't have much visibility out

467
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: of this archery window to my left. That's kind of

468
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 2: Dave's window. I'm but I can hear something coming at

469
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 2: about four point thirty to my left. I'm close to him,

470
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 2: like Dave, something's out my window. He kind of we're

471
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: kind of sitting there looking. All of a sudden, the

472
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: dough kind of squirts out, so we both see it

473
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 2: at the same time. Well, there's a dough not thinking

474
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: there's a buck, like she just ran out the field.

475
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 2: She's ready to eat and be excited to be there.

476
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: And then Dave, I don't remember exactly what he says,

477
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 2: but he does not. He doesn't convince me that it's

478
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: a shooter buck. He makes something He's like, he's right there.

479
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: There's something to that effect, like there's a buck, obviously,

480
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 2: but I don't know what it is. And then, in

481
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 2: all my genius getting the blind set up, I've knocked

482
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 2: my arrow and set it down on the gun holder

483
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 2: that takes up the majority of sitting right next to

484
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 2: that front left window where I need to go grab

485
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: my bow. So I'm in a position where I've just

486
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 2: got to like, let this thing walk out. I can't

487
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: reach for my bow. I'm gonna scare it before we

488
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: get started. As soon as he flashes through that window, though,

489
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's a shooter. It's a good nine

490
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 2: mature buck. Easily identify him four and a half plus,

491
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: maybe older, but I'm gonna guess four and a half,

492
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 2: five and a half max, but a good, good nine

493
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: point buck. I want to shoot it. Randy'd be happy

494
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: for me to shoot this buck. That dough that squirted

495
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 2: out to our left. She there. We've got a little

496
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: island of brush out in front of us. So you

497
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 2: got like a clear lane down your left, a clear

498
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 2: lane out to your right, and then you've got this

499
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: Randy had left a pilot brush in the middle of

500
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: his food plot. The dough kind of zigzags her way

501
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: through that and pops out on the other side. Well,

502
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: the buck kind of slowly picks up follows her. Well,

503
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: she doesn't like him following her, so she comes back

504
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: through the brush to where she just came. That should

505
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 2: put him in about fifteen yards. Well, she comes at me,

506
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 2: and then the wine's right in front of the She

507
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: comes kind of a diagonal towards me to my left.

508
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 2: She gets there and then wind's out. Well, he's grunting

509
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: the whole way, coming right back, fallowing er. So why

510
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 2: he's in this brush pile. It's the perfect time for

511
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: me to draw silently. I'm drawn looking out my left window,

512
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: and that buck comes around the corner like fifteen But

513
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: he's moving too fast. You know, there's there's no I

514
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: don't want to shoot a frontel. He's in a folded

515
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 2: dough in front of our blind, and he gets to

516
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: a He's at like twelve yards right now, right in

517
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 2: these blinds. I think the one i'mend's maybe a ten

518
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: or twelve foot elevated platform, not real tall. Some of

519
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: them are fifteen. Some of them even go up to twenty.

520
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: But I'm just in a ten or twelve, which is

521
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: actually helps in this situation where I've got to try

522
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: to shoot down at this deer. So I'm already at

523
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: full draw. I put my pin at twenty right where

524
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: I want to hit, and I'm just kind of getting

525
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: ready to is the broadside right in front of the blind,

526
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: and I just happened to glance down at my AAR

527
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh boy, my arrow is just gonna

528
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: blow out the side of Randy's fiberglass blind right like

529
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: the air is not gonna make it through where my

530
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 2: pin says it's gonna hit right. So I don't panic,

531
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: but I quickly need to like stand up or sit

532
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: up as tall as you can in your seat. I

533
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: need to get that extra two or three inches out

534
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: of my tour, so you know, I go to lift

535
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: my bow up. Not to add to the situation, I

536
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: bump my stabilizer on the little gun shelf that sticks

537
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: out about two inches from the window. A pro tip.

538
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: Maybe if you're a Western hunter and you think these

539
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: long ten inch stabilizers are great, maybe in a white

540
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: tail blind you switch to a four inch stabilizer. I

541
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: don't know.

542
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm thinking our thirty four inch bows could be a

543
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: little shorter.

544
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just everything. My thirty two inch

545
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,239
Speaker 2: arrow was a pain in the butt until you get

546
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: your bow drawn. Like everything is tight. But I drill

547
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: the the platform that's in front of this window, the

548
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: little shelf. I don't know why the buck didn't care,

549
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: but I drill it and he doesn't even pick his

550
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: head up, skip a beat, nothing. It was in love

551
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: me quickly, Now panahe worse because the buck is continually

552
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: getting more quartered away. Right as he goes from my

553
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: left to my right, I pull my boat back at

554
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: full draw, lift up an extra inch, and then come

555
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: back forward. As I get my bow forward, he's still

556
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: at a shootable range. He's slowly walking. I settled my

557
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: twenty in and hit him quartered away pretty good, but

558
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: but had perfect chance of hitting both lungs and hit

559
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: the arrow right where I needed to fortunately watched them

560
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: trot across the field. I could see where my exit

561
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: was perfect in the pocket. My entry had foam coming

562
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: out of it. We're able to watch a buck within

563
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: a minute go over and bed down and expire. So yeah,

564
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: last minute of the last night. It's so cliche to say,

565
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 2: but it's like, it's just time in the saddle, you know.

566
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: It just goes to show that white to't And I

567
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: don't claim to be an expert. You hear a lot

568
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: of the pros talk about it. It's just time in

569
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: the saddle. Either that and picking your weather and being

570
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: at the right place at the right time. So super

571
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: super lucky. And that was right. I was texting you

572
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 2: guys that I had shot one right before your night

573
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: was just getting going, and I felt it was a

574
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: little bit late, but your night was just kind of

575
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 2: getting started.

576
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we hadn't really seen a lot up unto that point,

577
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 1: but we had this buck that we spotted more kind

578
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: of scrape along the edge of the field and along

579
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: the fence row there, and he had a pretty bad lamp.

580
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: You know. He was a mature buck. His rack wasn't

581
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: real big, but we'd seen him before and Randy He's like, yeah, hey,

582
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: if you get a chance to shoot that thing, you

583
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: should take him out because with him lamping and stuff

584
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: like that, he may not make the winner. So we

585
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: had to do that buck of favor. So that buck

586
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: actually comes in and there's a feeder there, and there's

587
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: a little a little button buck feed eating corner out

588
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: of this feeder, and this this bigger buck. He starts

589
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: coming in and then the last minute, before you know,

590
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: he's about fifty yards out from the feeder. Then he

591
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: makes this wide berth and he gets out in the

592
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: standing corner and then he comes into a straight angle

593
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: to this feeder and he gets pretty close and all

594
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden he gets jumpy and spooky. Well, at

595
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 1: that very moment, I was putting tension on my string,

596
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: getting ready to draw because he needed to take like

597
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: two more steps and I was going to have a shot. Well,

598
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't know why he spooked. Because he spooked, he

599
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: was like looking towards that other little deer or that

600
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: direction which was away from us, and he almost had

601
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: his nose in the air like he was smelling something.

602
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if he smelled like he thought that

603
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: little buck was a doe and that that kind of

604
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: freaked him out, or maybe there was a coyout in

605
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: the you know, over in the in the corn somewhere

606
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: that we couldn't see, but he he kind of freaked

607
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: out and he took off, and we're down to the

608
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: wire there, you know, we're the last thirty minutes of light.

609
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh no, and I was

610
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: were deflated, like, man, I don't know if I'm gonna

611
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: get a buck. We only have thirty minutes left now

612
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: that now the odds are really stacked against us. So

613
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: we watched him kind of walk off, and about that time,

614
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: the phone started buzzing. Well during that whole episode, the

615
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: phone was buzzing. The first message I look at it's

616
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: a message from Randy and he's got a trail cam

617
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: picture and he says, man, I feel bad. I bet

618
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: Dirk's would be sad. I feel bad for him. And

619
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: were we were Dusty and I had been sitting for

620
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: a day and a half on this other blind Then

621
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: there's this big, old, big old eight point buck that

622
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: we'd been kind of seeing off and on all week,

623
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: and we were just hoping, you know, to get a

624
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: crack at him. And as soon as we moved from

625
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: that blind that buck shows up would have been a

626
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: perfect twenty yard shot. We did we didn't. We hadn't

627
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: nailed him, So then that was like insult to injury.

628
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, I'm like, you know, what's

629
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: the chance is. You know, if it's gonna happen to anybody,

630
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: will be me, right. So then I'm looking at my

631
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: other message. I'm like, oh, oh, great, Jason shot at ELK.

632
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: Good for him now, but r no, did I say elk? Yeah? Sorry? Yeah, good? Yeah,

633
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: he shot a buck. Good for him. But I was

634
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: actually pretty pumped for him. I was like, that's good.

635
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: But so one of us needed to draw some blood.

636
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: It's been, you know, kind of a tough hunt. Not

637
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: to get plain, but it's it's been a tough hunt.

638
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: And so I was just kind of sitting there licking

639
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: my wounds a little bit, thinking, well, this is how

640
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: the you know, the the hunt ends, you know, watching

641
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: the pretty sunset fade away, and the gray light was

642
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: getting pretty long, and and I catch this, the shape

643
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: of a deer up at the end of this field.

644
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: I pull out my binoculars. I'm like, holy cow, Dusty,

645
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: I said, there's a giant buck walking across. He's walking

646
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: along this fence row, but I don't know, almost almost

647
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: two hundred yards away. He's kind of walking along real slow,

648
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I have to do something to

649
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: get this buck to come our way, because he's not

650
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: coming our direction whatsoever. There's nothing that's going to lead

651
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: him here. So I pick up my grunt call and

652
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: I start blasting on that grunt call. We're just ba.

653
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: I think.

654
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: I blast him like four or five big, long, aggressive grunts,

655
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: and he stops and looks at us, and then he

656
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: just starts walking again on the same path he was walking.

657
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man, that didn't work. So I

658
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: have a dough bleat as well. So I start hammering

659
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: on that thing, and I don't know if I'm doing

660
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: it right. I don't know if I'm doing it wrong

661
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: at this point, it's just an act of desperation. So

662
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: I was blown on that thing really loud because he's

663
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: a couple hundred yards away. So I start blowing on

664
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: in It's like rah rah, and it was almost like

665
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: like a doe in distress that's been injured or something

666
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: and making that god awful noise they make, and he didn't.

667
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: He didn't even look our way. I'm like, man, that

668
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: didn't work either. And then all of a sudden, it's

669
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: like when somebody starts steering a boat. He just starts

670
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: starting to gradually starts turn in our direction, and he turns, turn, turns,

671
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: and he's walking right towards us. I'm like, holy call,

672
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: here he comes, Dusty, here he comes. I gotta get ready.

673
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: And this thing's coming through this cornfield and it's kind

674
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: of you know, it's not like the corner you picture

675
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: you see that that really like really tall stalks, they're

676
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, ten feet tall and bright green. This is,

677
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: you know, a little more of a scabby patch of corn.

678
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: You know, you can see through it in a lot

679
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: of it. So we can watch him come most of

680
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: the way. And he comes and uh, there's a there's

681
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: a swath cut through that corn and he walks into

682
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: that swath and he's about fifty yards and right then

683
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: I could have I could have stopped him, but I thought, well,

684
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: he may take the same path as that other buck.

685
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: He may smell that bucks tracks and maybe maybe come

686
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: over towards us. So I don't want to shoot. I

687
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: don't want to stop in there, he's fifty yards. I'd

688
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: rather have a closer shot, so I don't stop him.

689
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: He crosses through that swath and gets back in the

690
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: corner again, and then I can tell by his route

691
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: he's not going to come our direction. So at that

692
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: point I draw my bow and then I stop him. Man, man,

693
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, give him a few of those, and he stops,

694
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: and I shoot, and I see my lighted knock fly.

695
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's oh, it's in there. It's in there.

696
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, I don't think it's in there.

697
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: He kind of runs off and kind of trotted off,

698
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: didn't act like he was hit, and he kind of

699
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: walks over the edge of the field, stops, looks at us.

700
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, shoot, I don't think he's hit. So I

701
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: check him with binoculars. See no blood or you know,

702
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: holds in him. So I start, I start grunting again,

703
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: and he just kind of walks a little ways and

704
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: then starts. He stops and starts licking a branch like

705
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: there's a scrape there. I'm like, oh, yeah, he's definitely

706
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: not hurt. He says, start making a scrape here. And

707
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: he messed around there for a minute and then just

708
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: kind of slowly walked off into the sunset. And it's

709
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: a beautiful a point, like a monster, like would have

710
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: been my biggest white tail by far. Yeah, it kind

711
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: of hurt a little bit. I mean, my heart's broken,

712
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know if I'm I'm gonna ever recuperate

713
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: from it. But I will say those both those deer tonight,

714
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: both of them, Even the first one, I thought my

715
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: heart was going to to leap out of my chest.

716
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: It was pounding so hard. I think it was way

717
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: more of adrenaline rush or way more exciting than when

718
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: I have a bowl out come in. I guess I'm

719
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: kind of used to, you know, calling an elk for

720
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: so many years, and these white tails with the bow

721
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: is so so new to me. I was definitely I

722
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: really had to like try to control myself because I

723
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: was kind of freaking out a little bit.

724
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I my buck, your first blow on me.

725
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: I got so excited that as I went the full dry,

726
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: I ended up with the bloody noses dripping down my

727
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: face as I was trying to hold all that mess together.

728
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't keep my I don't keep myself

729
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: together very well. I don't know if it's because the

730
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,479
Speaker 2: element a surprise or you know, you're working an elk,

731
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 2: so you're like in constant communication and so it's like

732
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: a slow build up or a slower build up versus

733
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: like you went from seeing nothing to all of a

734
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: sudden the shoot her buck and you got to try

735
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: to figure it out. Yeah, it's it's a different it's tough.

736
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: It's like almost a different anticipation for me. It's like,

737
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've kind of like it. I have

738
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: to struggle really hard to like make sure I keep

739
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: my crap.

740
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: Together, but sure remind yourself to breathe.

741
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, well after this, hut, what do you what do

742
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: you think? What's what's what's your takeaways?

743
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, last year I think we maybe

744
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: had it too good. Oh, this stuff pretty exciting. Like

745
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: you don't have to there's no mental game to this.

746
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: You just jumping a tree and watch the deer all

747
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: day and you'll shoot the one that eventually want to,

748
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: you know, but this year was a different tale. A

749
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: lot of hours go by without seeing a deer having

750
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 2: much action. So yeah, it's definitely a mental game, trying

751
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: to keep your trying to keep your head in the game,

752
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: even though weather wasn't helping us out, movement wasn't right.

753
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: You know, the Bucks were in the middle of the lockdown.

754
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: You know, they they've had multiple years of drought, so

755
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: their numbers are down a little bit. Ehd you know,

756
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 2: all of this kind of playing in. Don't get me wrong,

757
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: they still have a great deer numbers and great deer

758
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: on there on Randy's property. You know, he's did a

759
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 2: great job. But it's tough. It's it takes a lot

760
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: of a lot of commitment and perseverance just sitting that

761
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: tree all day, stay alert, you know, you know, because

762
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: a lot of times, as we mentioned, you might only

763
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: see those deer a few times and you need to

764
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: react pretty quick. So no, it's tough. It's tough on

765
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: a different level versus you know, hiking all day, you know,

766
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: in the Western country trying to you know, hunt deer,

767
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: elk versus you know, whitetail. You got to have the

768
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: mental to sit. And one thing I'm excited to get

769
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: to do next year is a lot of a lot

770
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: of what we get to reap the rewards of is

771
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: Randy's work in the off season, or him and his

772
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: buddy's work, you know, setney stands. We're gonna hopefully get

773
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: to set some of these stands and make them make

774
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: some decisions with them next year on you know, where

775
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: we've seen the deer move where we think the deer

776
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: going to be, and focus on these pitch points and

777
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: kind of help him get some stands reorganized. So I'll

778
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 2: be I'm excited to be a part of that because

779
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: right now I just get to take advantage of where

780
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: Randy's did all the research and set the stands and

781
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: put all the work in where I'd love to put

782
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 2: a little bit of sweat equity in. But yeah, my

783
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: takeaway is it's it's it's not physical by any means,

784
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: but it's definitely like a mental stress that you're under

785
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: all day, just trying to get through the day and

786
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: stay alert and hunt hard. And by hunting hard, I

787
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: don't mean hiking hills and sweat, and I mean like

788
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 2: staying awake, stay alert and being ready when the time comes.

789
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: Why did you like, look at me, funny when you

790
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: said stay awake?

791
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: We were I was trying to take the over under

792
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: at times. Dusty, your camera man, he was giving me

793
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: the odds. He was the odds maker. You say he

794
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: was Vegas in this he said he was going to

795
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: set the betting line at forty sixty. So that means

796
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: that's real close to where you were at sleep wise,

797
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 2: you were asleep forty percent of time and a week

798
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: maybe sixty percent of the time.

799
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, I thought it was him that was sleeping

800
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: all that that I was gonna I was gonna throw

801
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: him under the bus for sleeping. But no, actually, yeah,

802
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: I have a hard time. Man if I if I

803
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: sit very long, I man, I doze off. But it

804
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: was good to have him there because if I dozed off,

805
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: he was just like he was. He's like, hey, there

806
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: comes a deer. And then I wake up like I

807
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: don't know who my name is. I'm like I'm looking

808
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: around like we're trying to focus on where am I.

809
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: But you know, it's nice to have him there. Yeah,

810
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: but I agree, it's a it's a it's a definitely

811
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: a mental game. You have to have the discipline to

812
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: to stay alert. You know, move slowly, don't you know,

813
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: just because you're in a blind doesn't mean deer can't

814
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: see it. They can still see you, and you just

815
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: have to make slow movements, deliberate movements, glass, check every

816
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: little spot over and over and over again, and that

817
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: that's kind of the hard part. Like Western hung we

818
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: get to see new views and vistas throughout the day

819
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: as we hike, but here it's just like the same

820
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: old spots. And you get a little bit of win

821
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: and you get a little bit of leaves and stuff

822
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: falling from the trees, and and pretty soon you're like, oh, man,

823
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: I saw a tail flicker and yeah it was just

824
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: a leaf. And you do that all day and it's it.

825
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: It can wear on you. I know. The other night

826
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: was that last night where we were sitting here and like, man,

827
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted.

828
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: It was.

829
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: It's exhausting sometimes to do that, I guess if you're

830
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: not used to it. But yeah, it was. It was

831
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: fun and I can't wait till till we get to

832
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: come back and help Randy. You know, rework a lot

833
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: of his stands. He's got a lot of stands. He's like,

834
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'd like to just dig them out and

835
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: replace him, or not replace them, but reset them, relocate them,

836
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you know, fine tune them a little bit.

837
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: They're in a good spot, but maybe by moving them

838
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: one hundred yards. Now you're really in the spot where

839
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: the deer are going to come by, which we've kind

840
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: of seen some of those places too, but but that,

841
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: like you say, it gives you some skin in the game.

842
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: And and now we feel better about coming out, you know, yeah,

843
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: accepting his hospitality. And I mean, we can't think if

844
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: Randy listens to this, we can't thank him enough. I

845
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: don't know what we ever did to deserve in invitation

846
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: to come out here. You know, we've been out here hunting,

847
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: turkey hunting three times and deer hunting twice, and it's yeah,

848
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm just thankful.

849
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, such a generous guy, just salted the earth. One

850
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: of the best guys you know, you can be around,

851
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: fun to be around. You know, there's a lot about

852
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: hunting those, a lot about his property, you know, managing

853
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: the property, hard worker, you know, just one of those

854
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: guys you like to be around. And yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: like you know, to echo your sentiment, like, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what we did deserve to be here, but hopefully

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Speaker 2: he keeps inviting us back. And yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 2: how we're going to repay him, but uh, maybe we'll

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Speaker 2: move some stands and uh, just uh, I don't know, likeviously,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what we did, but it's it's a

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Speaker 2: it's a pleasure to get to come out to Kansas.

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Speaker 2: I look forward to this trip every year. It's awesome.

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Speaker 2: The places managed to a t and uh it's a

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Speaker 2: lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just the in the area. I'd never spent

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Speaker 1: really any time in Kansas before, and I love it

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Speaker 1: out here. It's it's like you're taking a step back

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Speaker 1: in time, you know, these this small town America and

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Speaker 1: the people here are super nice and it's just man, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's more places could be like this.

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Speaker 2: Yep, good people. Everybody's your friend, go to the gas

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Speaker 2: station like everybody's asking how It's just yeah, I wish

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Speaker 2: I wish a lot more places were like this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love it. Well. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: everybody for listening today. If you guys have any questions

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Speaker 1: that you want Phelps to answer or me to answer,

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Speaker 1: just email us at CTD at Phelpsgamecalls dot com and

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Speaker 1: we will do our best to re read your question

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Speaker 1: on the air and and answer it with whether it's

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Speaker 1: Jason myself or maybe one of the guests sometime and

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Speaker 1: if you know, the super secret phone number. I should

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Speaker 1: have looked it up so I could say it right now.

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Speaker 1: But if you've heard some of the other episodes where

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Speaker 1: I give out that number, call in and with your question,

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Speaker 1: you can leave a detailed message UH. This three minutes

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Speaker 1: or less so the machine don't cut you off, and

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Speaker 1: we'll play your message on the line or on the

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Speaker 1: air here and uh and then read and then answer

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Speaker 1: it to the best of our abilities. So anyway, thanks

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Speaker 1: again for coming on the show. Jason. You know it's

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Speaker 1: hard to get you on here, and thanks everybody for listening.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch you on this next show.