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Speaker 1: Welcome into Real America's Voice news. This is Sunday, the

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Speaker 1: Road Forward. Well spring has sprung and most of the

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Speaker 1: country is embracing warmer weather, including ay, some green grass,

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Speaker 1: cherry blossoms, dogwoods, and more. All the while, the nation

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Speaker 1: watched Florida take on Houston for the NCAA Basketball Championship,

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Speaker 2: What a game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you watched it, but it was

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Speaker 1: down to the final moments. Elon Musk has certainly cut

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Speaker 1: the attention of the world and continues with his doge

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Speaker 1: efforts exposing the horrific waste, fraud, and abuse. And yes,

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Speaker 1: Left's been screaming all the way since day one. He's

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Speaker 1: not looking at Social Security administration. And it appears that

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration was connected to importing voters and passing

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Speaker 1: out a lot of benefits.

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Judicial tyranny is also continuing, but the Supreme Court's now

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Speaker 1: pushing back and this week the Trump administration picked up

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Speaker 1: a couple of wins. And this is Palm Sunday, the

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Speaker 1: launch of Holy Week around the world, with nearly two

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Speaker 1: billion people are going to commemorate and celebrate the death, burial,

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Speaker 1: and resurrection of Jesus. Saw this and more on this

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Speaker 1: edition of Sunday The Road Forward. As always an incredible

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Speaker 1: lineup and a word of hope and encouragement for you

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Speaker 1: and those you love, especially in these difficult times. I'm

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Speaker 1: doctor Tim Clinton. I'll be your host our special guest

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Speaker 1: joining this week. President of American Values and Senior Vice

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Speaker 1: President for Public Policy for the Doctor James Dobson Family Institute,

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Speaker 1: Gary Bauer is back with us. He is the founder

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Speaker 1: and CEO of Well Versed. It's a ministry to members

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Speaker 1: of Congress, ambassadors at the United Nations in New York City,

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Speaker 1: a mega popular author, speaker and podcaster. Hidie Saint John's

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Speaker 1: back and he's a licensed professional counselor and addictions expert.

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Speaker 1: Jim Cress is back with us. Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 3: Sworthy.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: Judicial tyranny is picking up steam. We now have a

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Speaker 1: ridiculous again number of lawsuits filed against the Trump administration,

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Speaker 1: begging the question, who again really runs America? Do presidents

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Speaker 1: or unelected judges? And this week the Supreme Court began

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Speaker 1: deportation issue and also whether or not the president can

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Speaker 1: fire federal workers. In the midst of all this, Doge

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Speaker 1: continues digging and now they're finding serious issues with the

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Speaker 1: Social Security administration. And if you can believe this, it's

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Speaker 1: all connected to importing voters.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 1: They're actually putting people on voter rolls, giving them Medicaid

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Speaker 1: and Social Security and more. It's unbelievable. You know what,

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Speaker 1: in the midst of all this, we've got to slow

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Speaker 1: it down. It is again Sunday, Palm Sunday. It marks

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Speaker 1: the beginning of Holy Week. More than two billion people

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Speaker 1: the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about that, you know. On Palm Sunday we

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Speaker 1: recalled the Fulfillment. Prophet Zachariah is saying that the Messiah

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Speaker 1: would enter Jerusalem riding on a colt and being greeted

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Speaker 1: by the people waving palm branches and shouting Hosanna. Today,

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Speaker 1: as many reflect on Jesus and Palm Sunday. They have

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Speaker 1: palms that are sometimes woven into crosses. That's because the

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Speaker 1: crowd quickly shifted, you'll remember, from Hosannah to crucify him.

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Speaker 1: What did they miss They missed that, Really, Jesus was

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Speaker 1: coming to pay our sin debt in full, to become crucified,

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Speaker 1: this and more on this edition of Sunday The Road Forward.

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Speaker 1: I know this God is bringing light into darkness. And

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Speaker 1: here's a great verse from the Bible to hold on

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Speaker 1: to this week, this Palm Sunday. It's John twelve, verse thirteen.

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Speaker 1: So they took the branches of palm trees and went

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Speaker 1: out to meet him, crying out again, Osanna, blessed is

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Speaker 1: he who comes in the name of the Lord, even

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Speaker 1: the King of Israel. Well, hold on as we jump

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Speaker 1: into our discussion here on Sunday the Road Ford. By

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Speaker 1: God be with us. Thank you for Lord, the gift

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Speaker 1: of your son, that in our faith in Him we

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Speaker 1: might have life, eternal life. Yeah, the forgiveness of sins.

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Speaker 1: I pray for all those watching right now, if they

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Speaker 1: Thank you again for this privilege. I pray special blessing

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Speaker 1: Join us now is Gary Bauer. Bauer served in President

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Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan's administration for eight years as Under Secretary of

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Speaker 1: Education and Chief Domestic Policy Advisor. Today, he serves as

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Speaker 1: president of American Values and Educational nonprofit there in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 1: and he's senior vice president for public policy for the

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Speaker 1: Doctor James Dobson Family Institute. Gary, welcome back, Thank you

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Speaker 6: It's great to be with you as always.

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Speaker 2: Ten garys we got started.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: All over the news this week, social media is the

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Speaker 1: issue of the economy. You go back to the Biden

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Speaker 1: ridiculous amounts of money for a dozen eggs and different

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Speaker 1: Thanks Gary. It's just unbelievable where that mess went. So

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Speaker 1: and what's been uncovered has been unbelievable. I want to

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Speaker 1: resolution bill. Talk to us about what's happening up there

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Speaker 1: and where you see this thing going.

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Speaker 2: Is it going to land, is it going to get

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Speaker 6: Well, all great observations and a great question, Tim. Look,

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Speaker 6: they are very slim majorities, particularly in the House of

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Speaker 6: herd cats. Yeah, but if anybody can do it, Donald

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Speaker 6: Trump can do it. We've seen him do it already

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Speaker 6: on a number of things that the media was telling

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Speaker 6: us would not be able to get through the Congress.

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Speaker 6: We got a relatively safe majority in the United States Senate,

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Speaker 6: so I'm optimistic. You know, it's going to be a

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Speaker 6: But what's its is that the Republicans in the House

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Speaker 6: rather than later, a bill that keeps the tax cuts

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Speaker 6: other tax cuts, which he said on the campaign trail

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Speaker 1: Very popular with American people. Gary, I mean, they're saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: People are pushing for it. It's interesting, Gary. In the

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Speaker 2: This is fascinating to me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Donald Trump blows up every political narrative and every

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Speaker 6: And the interesting thing to me, Tim, and the sort

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Speaker 1: And I want to close this way, Gary, entering into

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Speaker 1: You and I've had many conversations about at the end

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Speaker 1: And God's given us his word, were led by His spirit.

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Speaker 1: But Gary, just your closing thoughts and reflections on this,

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Speaker 1: this this coming week and who Christ.

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Speaker 6: Well, Tim, I'd need a couple of hours, probably, But

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Speaker 6: you know, I grew up in a troubled home. My

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Speaker 6: But someday all that will be suspended because the King

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Speaker 6: They'll just be pure justice for everybody. So I'm looking

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Speaker 6: but I'm looking forward to the Easter Proclamation which will

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Speaker 6: after all, Oh, the celebration of Jesus Christ, who died

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Speaker 1: Do you'm in the midst of all this? People probably wonder?

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Speaker 1: We really believe that our rights don't come from government,

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Speaker 4: The easiest one for the book is reversed dot com. Course,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Jim Garlo always great to see you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Join us now is Hidie Saint John. She's the best

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Speaker 7: How do you what?

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Speaker 2: Would like to see you? Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 9: Hey, it's good to see you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Hy is we gonna start as Palm Sunday. We're entering

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Speaker 1: into Holy Week, I think what some two billion people

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Speaker 1: around the world are going to commemorate and celebrate the death,

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Speaker 1: bear and resurrection of Jesus the Messiah. You and I

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Speaker 1: have talked a lot about the spiritual stirring that's going

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Speaker 1: take on what do you think is happening and you

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Speaker 1: think it's real and where do you think we're going.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think it's absolutely real. I mean, there's one

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Speaker 9: thing I'm really excited about right now, right now, and

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Speaker 9: that's to see God's people again turn to the Lord

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Speaker 9: and recognize we can't actually fix what's wrong in our country,

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Speaker 9: what's wrong in our families, what's wrong in our marriages,

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Speaker 9: And so I think we're seeing people come back to

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Speaker 9: I live, of course, you know, just across the river

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Speaker 9: from Portland, Oregon. And what God is doing in some

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Speaker 9: And it's starting with what I call a move of humility,

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Speaker 9: which we haven't seen in a very long time in

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Speaker 1: Hew do as you're going to this week on a

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Speaker 9: Well, I think first of all, we're just we're thankful

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Speaker 9: for Jesus, right, We're thankful that we have a creator

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Speaker 9: who loves us and loved us enough to send his

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Speaker 9: paid on our own. My family is a ministry family.

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Speaker 9: My husband is the worship pastor at our church. My

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Speaker 9: we're very very busy around the Easter season, and our

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Speaker 9: family likes to come together. We spend a couple of

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Speaker 9: and so we're going to be getting together. We invite

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Speaker 9: for Christians around the world to rejoice because without the resurrection,

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Speaker 9: we would have no hope. And our hope is found

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Speaker 9: in the grave. So we have a lot to be

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Speaker 9: excited about. We're going to be welcoming our seventh and

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Speaker 1: How do you know, over the last few years, people

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of shaming going on, stigmatizing and

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Speaker 1: what's happening with this younger generation, but it's exploding seriously.

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Speaker 1: And when you look at some of you look at

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Speaker 2: What do you think is contributing to all that?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think the younger generation is looking to see

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Speaker 9: what's been happening since they were born and guess what,

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Speaker 9: to try something different. I had an epiphany the other day.

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Speaker 9: talking about my generation. You know, we grew up in

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Speaker 9: neighbor and maybe instead of you know, pontificating about politics,

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Speaker 9: we're just talking about personal testimony, the power of a

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Speaker 9: apostle Paul said, I am not ashamed of the Gospel.

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Speaker 9: I think we've spent a lot of years kind of

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Speaker 9: being ashamed that we believe that God spoke to a

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Speaker 9: era of Christians kind of being timid and embarrassed for

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Speaker 9: is really coming to an end. And we're starting to

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Speaker 9: see a new generation of young people telling their stories

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Speaker 9: is so powerful and I have been encouraging parents tell

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Speaker 9: we see an explosion of that around the country. I'm

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Speaker 9: going to start calling it testimony Tuesday. Right, Let's talk

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Speaker 9: to somebody about our personal testimony every Tuesday and say

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Speaker 9: think you're going to see more and more of this happening,

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Speaker 9: especially when it comes to young people around the country.

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Speaker 9: I'm six, What a time to be a Christian.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think kids love to see authenticity in the home.

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Speaker 1: They want mom and dad to be real, and they

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Speaker 1: want them to talk about God, who is God to them, etc.

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Speaker 1: But there's something that happens to Heidi when you get

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Speaker 1: into a place where people are together worshiping God. We

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Speaker 1: recently had our Ignitement's Impact Weekend and we had five

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Speaker 1: the midst of it, you had fathers and sons, fathers

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Speaker 1: and brothers, co workers, all kinds of people in the room.

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you what, when they started singing together,

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Speaker 1: you start looking around. You start thinking, I had no

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Speaker 1: idea in our community. There were this many men who

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Speaker 1: actually want to take a stand for Christ, who want

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Speaker 1: to sing openly and testify to God's goodness and grace.

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Speaker 1: And when that stuff starts happening, Hotti, when we gave

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Speaker 1: of men going forward. Something again again when we get together.

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Speaker 1: You hear what I'm saying. That's why forsake not the

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Speaker 1: assembling of yourselves together. Get the church this Easter weekend.

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Speaker 1: Get out there, see and feel and experience the presence

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Speaker 1: and power of God. Something happens when that dynamic comes alive.

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Speaker 1: And again you're starting to see it all over social media.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're seeing it. I'm singing it everywhere.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm absolutely seeing it. I completely agree with you.

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Speaker 9: It's such an exciting time to be a Christian. And

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Speaker 9: I lead a women's Bible study every Monday, and we

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Speaker 9: the Bible says that her husband and their entire family

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Speaker 9: went to worship the Lord, and I kind of circle

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Speaker 9: that and highlighted it for the women. It is powerful

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Speaker 9: to worship the Lord as families. God gave us the family,

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Speaker 9: God gave us marriage. These are institutions that honor God.

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Speaker 9: And wouldn't it be something if we began as these

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Speaker 9: to church together with our children, with our grandparents, this

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Speaker 9: multi generational vision of worshiping the Lord together as families.

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Speaker 9: And I think we're going to see it.

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Speaker 1: How do I want to close this way? You know,

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Speaker 1: when you go through trauma and life, you kind of

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Speaker 1: lose your voice. It kind of silences you. It takes

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Speaker 1: the win out of you. When I think about what

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Speaker 1: modern day Christianity has been through, especially over that last administration,

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Speaker 1: what we start to see happening with seventy five year

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Speaker 1: of their mind. They saw this weaponization of systems of

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Speaker 1: with this waste, fraud and abuse and this pushback and

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Speaker 1: people are screaming and carrying on, it's just unbelievable. This

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Speaker 1: is not a time, and I know you, this is

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Speaker 1: the time to start chirping. What I mean is this

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Speaker 1: is not a time to get complacent, to go silent.

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Speaker 1: You hear what I'm saying. This is a time to

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing is people are saying, listen, these cuts and

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Speaker 1: all this stuff, do more, keep going, expose it all,

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Speaker 1: put everything out on this table. We want to know

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Speaker 1: exactly what happened and if this stuff, if this garbage

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Speaker 1: is real, we need to deal with it, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And so how do kind of bow

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Speaker 1: tie this as we look at how we're supposed to

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Speaker 1: live out our faith by the way speaking truth and love. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the journey here.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, you know we've made the mistake now for

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Speaker 9: decades of sacrificing truth on the altar of a misguided mercy.

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Speaker 9: And we saw with Jesus that you can actually speak

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Speaker 9: a nation in desperate need of truth. We need truth

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Speaker 9: from the pulpit, we need truth from our pastors, we

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Speaker 9: need truth from politicians, we need truth in government. And

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Speaker 9: I see, I think that's what where we're headed right now.

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Speaker 9: And for us to be able to witness Trump doing

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Speaker 9: this should be a wake up call for God's people.

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Speaker 9: We should be all gased, no breaks right now. We

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Speaker 9: have seen what happens when we have a ttalitarian style

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Speaker 9: silencing of parents who are trying to go to school

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Speaker 9: boards to say, hey, I don't want men in my

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Speaker 9: daughter's locker room. You know, just basic, basic things. But

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Speaker 9: we moved away from truth. Christians were silenced. Right now,

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Speaker 9: we've been given an opportunity to tell the truth, and

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Speaker 9: we need to tell the truth boldly and without apology.

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Speaker 9: The only answer to a bold lie is bold truth.

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Speaker 9: And God's people should be speaking the truth unapologetically and

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Speaker 9: through the power of the Holy Spirit. And when we

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Speaker 9: do that, that truth is spoken in love, and that

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Speaker 9: right there is a game changing recipe for revival in

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Speaker 9: the country. To be able to speak the truth with

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Speaker 9: love and not be silenced. We have a moment right now.

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Speaker 9: We need to step into that moment and ask the

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Speaker 9: Lord to give us the courage and the grace to

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Speaker 9: speak the truth to a generation that is ready to

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Speaker 9: hear it.

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Speaker 2: I love it, Heidi, I do.

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Speaker 1: If people want to learn more about you, your podcast,

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Speaker 1: your ministry, HAIDI, where can they go? Because I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people ask every week how do we

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Speaker 1: get a hold of her?

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Speaker 9: You can find me at the Heidi Saint John podcast

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Speaker 9: just Heidisaint John dot com. I'm sort of lit up

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Speaker 9: like a Christmas tree all over the internet, so we'd

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Speaker 9: love to have new people listening to the show. It

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Speaker 9: airs three days a week, and I love to meet

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Speaker 9: people at the intersection of faith and culture, and I

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Speaker 9: think that is where God is going to meet this generation.

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Speaker 1: Jim Cressey is a renowned counselor, multiple addictions therapists, and

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Speaker 1: for joining me.

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Speaker 4: Tim.

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Speaker 7: You know it's a delight. We've been together often and

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Speaker 7: I love being here with you to talk about a

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Speaker 7: pretty important topic.

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Speaker 2: Jim.

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Speaker 1: This pornography disaster, I'm going to call it, so I'm

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Speaker 1: calling it the porndemic. But since COVID sites like Pornhub

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Speaker 1: and others exploded, Jim, and it's spewing itself all over

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Speaker 1: everything and everybody in modern day Christianity, Jim, people are

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Speaker 1: really concerned. There's a lot of conversation going on about it.

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Speaker 1: You're on the front lines. Talk to us about what

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Speaker 1: you're hearing, what you're thinking, what you're praying about.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Tim, thank you. The porndemic is setting in a nest,

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Speaker 7: if you will, of a global mental health pandemic. If

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Speaker 7: Tim and you and I have talked about that, you're

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Speaker 7: leading the charge worldwide on that whole the addressing of

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Speaker 7: the global mental health pandemic. And we're still technically not

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Speaker 7: outside of the COVID pandemic. And America is often in

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Speaker 7: the limbic brain, you know, that lower trauma brain, a

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Speaker 7: five flat or freeze. And whether it's something current about

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Speaker 7: the economy, the stock market, tariff's political different views, ideologies, etc.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, And certainly not in my life of

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Speaker 7: sixty three years, have I seen times like this? So

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Speaker 7: when you sit in that realm of people being basically

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Speaker 7: activated or they're in a sense they're disregulated, whether they

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Speaker 7: know it or admit it or not, why not turn

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Speaker 7: to any drug that you can do to basically one

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Speaker 7: fire dopamine in the brain and serotonin and some other neurochemicals,

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Speaker 7: and to try to do something to medicate to escape

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Speaker 7: some reality that is going on. You have all these

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Speaker 7: settings going on. So one of the quickest ways a

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Speaker 7: person can certainly numb out is to go to pornography.

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Speaker 7: It's accessible, anonymous, it's accelerated, and now we have AI

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Speaker 7: all these a's, Tim and so Houston, we've had a problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do, Jim.

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Speaker 1: When you look at some of the stats, they're shocking.

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Speaker 1: Thirty plus million describe their behavior as problematic. Jim, I'd

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Speaker 1: use the word sinful. Where we've just absolutely gotten out

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Speaker 1: of control. You've got somewhat ten million teenage kids regularly

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Speaker 1: regularly viewing pornography.

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Speaker 2: Jim.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's a disaster out there, and I

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Speaker 1: think there's a tsunami effect yet to come that we

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Speaker 1: can't even imagine. What's this doing to us relationally, Jim,

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Speaker 1: how is porn adversely affecting us?

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Speaker 2: What's it due to our perception of others?

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Speaker 1: And what's it doing inside of us our own wiring

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Speaker 1: if you will.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, when you study and you have tim attachment when

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Speaker 7: you study what doctor Harry Schomberg years ago coined in

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Speaker 7: his book the term false intimacy. So what's going on

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Speaker 7: is there is this hot wiring or hijacking of connections

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Speaker 7: that feels like it is No one's going to know

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Speaker 7: this at the moment unless they know. It's a dressing

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Speaker 7: attachment wounds. It's addressing really attachment styles. It's a way

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Speaker 7: connected to some person. And I can be on a

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Speaker 7: screen teenager or younger or adults high stats about men

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Speaker 7: in the pew or in the seats on Sunday morning,

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Speaker 7: including pastors, very high stat there. Naming, not blaming, just

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Speaker 7: saying it's a reality. And so what goes on in

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Speaker 7: that moment it feels like I am in a real

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Speaker 7: connection with another person. That's with basically static pictures or videos.

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Speaker 7: And then you move into chat rooms, and you move

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Speaker 7: into AI, and you move into virtual connections. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I could spend ten hours talking about this where it

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Speaker 7: will feel like there is a live person on the

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Speaker 7: other end of this connection. In the moment, the body

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Speaker 7: and the brain will feel like this is real. No,

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Speaker 7: it's fantasy. Fantasy offers the promise of life. You'll feel alive,

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Speaker 7: but in the end it delivers death. A vision of

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Speaker 7: who God has called you to be. Often will be

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Speaker 7: scary and death, but in the end it produces and

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Speaker 7: leads you to life. You know that in Proverbs, where

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Speaker 7: the man's walking down the street and up here is

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Speaker 7: lady wisdom. She's saying, I will give you wisdom and

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Speaker 7: deliver life to you. And never here's the lady prostitute

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Speaker 7: or horror, whatever version you're reading, and she says, I've

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Speaker 7: just feel like you can soothe and lose, you know,

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Speaker 7: get get rid of all your problems. But in the end,

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Speaker 7: when you go up to that house, tim, it leads

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Speaker 7: to death.

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Speaker 2: Jim.

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Speaker 1: Proverbs five, since you went there, says the lips of

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Speaker 1: a strange woman dropped as honeycomb.

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Speaker 4: Jim.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the discussions around sexual compulsivity, which is

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Speaker 1: a part of our field in mental health.

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Speaker 2: That's the language they use. In Christian circles.

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Speaker 1: We talk openly and often about sexual addiction, that viewing

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Speaker 1: pornography can be an.

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Speaker 2: All consuming fire.

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Speaker 1: It can take you places, literally hijacks the brain, much

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Speaker 1: like heroin, cocaine, alcohol.

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Speaker 2: What have you, Jim, explain.

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Speaker 1: To us what starts happening and this unmanageability piece for example,

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Speaker 1: and this tolerance effect, et cetera, and how it draws

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Speaker 1: even safe. Let's just go to say, our sons and

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Speaker 1: what they're battling with and how this becomes something that

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Speaker 1: is a destructive I mean force and Jim, what they're

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Speaker 1: seeing now versus say, when we grew up, we came

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Speaker 1: across you know, a couple of magazines or something like that.

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Speaker 1: What they're seeing in this virtual world is unbelievable.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and this on demand. And I tell people God

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Speaker 7: does not spell, that's God. God doesn't stand for God

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Speaker 7: on demand. And so we're wiring in this on demand society.

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Speaker 7: You and I could remember, and a few others watching

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Speaker 7: listening today could remember the dial up modia modem and

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Speaker 7: all the all that sound and slow and trying to

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Speaker 7: read a news article and to take forever. And now

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Speaker 7: it is so lightning fast, right, it's like lightning in

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Speaker 7: a bottle. So it's it's in their pockets, in a

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Speaker 7: cell phone. Even younger kids, it's around gaming YouTube people.

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Speaker 7: Of course they're going to do it. Satan's going to

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Speaker 7: find a place that could be good, a kid's video

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Speaker 7: on YouTube, and the phonographers realize to come in and

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Speaker 7: puppet show or something, and dump in porn or kids

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Speaker 7: being exposed. Well, we've got our internet at our house

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Speaker 7: completely protected password. And then they have a friend come over,

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Speaker 7: or someone at school, or yes, even in a youth

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Speaker 7: yeah and just say I'll show it. The youngest age

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Speaker 7: and it may be getting younger. Can you get much younger?

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Speaker 7: Is about age four where boys are being exposed to porn,

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Speaker 7: girls are being exposed to porn. They're getting this education

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Speaker 7: of this is what sexuality is like. Word of God?

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Speaker 7: Can a man? Can a boy? Can anyone scoop fire

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Speaker 7: in their lap and their clothes not be burned? And

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Speaker 7: most people don't know. There's at least five probably major neurotransmitters.

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Speaker 7: Just looking at porn so neurochemistry. The drug lives in

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Speaker 7: side you dopamine, serotonin, catecholamines, pea, norbin, ephorn, adrenaline. The

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Speaker 7: cocktail is just overwhelming and kids getting started if we

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Speaker 7: put them on heroin or crack cocaine at age eight,

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Speaker 7: nine twelve. Can you think you're just going to come

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Speaker 7: off of a cold turkey. This is beginning to be

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Speaker 7: the edeology and origin of something very young and progressing.

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Speaker 7: And cocaine addicts is what we call comorbidity or dual diagnosis.

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Speaker 7: Have said in in patient treatment it was easier for

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Speaker 7: me to come off of cocaine than to come off

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Speaker 7: of pornography or sexual addiction.

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Speaker 2: Jim, people want to learn more about you, where can

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Speaker 2: they go?

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Speaker 7: Just go to Jim at Jimcress dot com as an

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Speaker 7: email or just the website Jim Cress Jim Cress dot com,

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Speaker 7: and I hope they will if they want to get

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Speaker 7: podcast I do with Lisa Tchurkhurst and doctor Joel hudamali

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Speaker 7: Qui Frank We've talked about porn, narcisism. There's a lot

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Speaker 7: of free material. They'll just look up Therapy and Theology podcast.

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Speaker 2: Always great to see Jim, Thank you for joining me,

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Speaker 2: you too, buddy.

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Speaker 8: Thank you Tim for more encouragement and to stay connected.

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Speaker 8: Follow doctor Tim Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We

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Speaker 8: love being a part of your life.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 1: In closing, let me say, these are unprecedented times, these

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Speaker 1: are difficult times or challenging times.

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Speaker 2: But I know this.

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Speaker 1: God's in control and I believe he's at work. Hope

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Speaker 1: you're pressing close to him in his heart, and also

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Speaker 1: in hope that you know that God loves you and

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Speaker 1: he wants to be in your life. Our hope, our

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Speaker 1: strength comes from the Lord. Here again is an encouraging

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Speaker 1: verse from the Bible, this palm Sunday as we enter

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Speaker 1: into Holy Week, John chapter twelve, verse thirteen. So they

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Speaker 1: took branches of palm trees and went out to meet him,

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Speaker 1: crying out, Osanna, Blessed is he who comes.

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Speaker 2: In the name of the Lord, even the King of Israel.

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Speaker 1: Help you know that you can look to him for

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Speaker 1: wisdom and direction in your everyday life. Yes, I mean that,

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Speaker 1: but let me also say this. I've learned as a

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Speaker 1: professional counselor that it's easy to develop concern, fear, maybe worry,

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Speaker 1: especially when things are not the way they're supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: And I've also learned that if you aren't careful, it

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Speaker 1: can begin to control consume you. It's easy to lose perspective.

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Speaker 1: For some they feel like they've lost hope. They might

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Speaker 1: even go to a place where they begin to think

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Speaker 1: that life would be better off without them.

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Speaker 2: I say this every week. You don't have to live

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: Simply taking a step and reaching out for help it's

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Speaker 1: often the gateway to a new day or a new you.

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Speaker 1: And if you are someone you love is struggling, I

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Speaker 1: want you to know there are wonderful counsels and pastors

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Speaker 1: who actually do care. It can help you maybe find

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Speaker 1: are a lot of wonderful resources out there maybe to

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Speaker 1: help you in your journey. You can find out more

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Speaker 1: at our website at AACC dot net.

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Speaker 2: That's AACC dot net.

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Speaker 1: We also have a new website to help connect you

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Speaker 1: maybe with a counselor or a coach in your area.

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Speaker 1: That's right connecting you with a counselor a coach in

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Speaker 1: your area, or online that website christiancareconnect dot com christiancare

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Speaker 1: connect dot com. You don't have a personal relationship with

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Speaker 1: God in Christ, what a better time than this Holy

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Speaker 1: Week to ask and invite Him into your life. You

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Speaker 1: can do that by simply praying a prayer from your

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Speaker 1: heart to God's orright, simply pray this prayer again from.

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Speaker 2: Your heart, Lord Jesus, I need you. I know I'm broken.

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Speaker 1: I'm a sinner and I believe that you came to

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Speaker 1: die for my sins. I want to turn from them

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Speaker 1: and invite you again into my heart, into my life life.

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Speaker 1: I want to trust you and I want to follow

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Speaker 1: you as my Lord and savior.

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Speaker 2: God.

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Speaker 1: If you're there and I know you are, thank you

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Speaker 1: for loving me and forgiving your life for me. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for the gift of grace, of forgiveness and the

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Speaker 1: gift of eternal life. I pray all this in Jesus's name. Amen,

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Speaker 1: I believe you prayed that prayer from your heart to

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Speaker 1: your heart. You're now in God's family. As a matter

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Speaker 1: of fact, the Bible says in Romans ten to night,

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Speaker 1: if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is the Lord,

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Speaker 1: and believing your heart that God raised him from the dead.

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Speaker 1: You know what the Bible says. It says you will

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Speaker 1: be saved. Best thing you can do now is go

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Speaker 1: tell someone and commit yourself to serve God for the

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Speaker 1: rest of your life, and He'll give you the strength

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Speaker 1: to do it. Promise you have you're struggling with hopelessness.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you've got some thoughts of maybe ending your life

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Speaker 1: phone right now and call the suicide hotline. It's a

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Speaker 1: nine eight eight nine eight eight, the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline.

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Speaker 1: Before we go, maybe God's gifted you with the hard

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Speaker 1: to help other people. You understand what brokenness is like,

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Speaker 1: you understand what darkness is like. I hope you'll consider

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: doctor Tim Clinton. As always, thanks for watching. To see

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Speaker 1: you next week right here on Sunday, The Road Forward

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Speaker 1: on Real America's Voice News