1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 3: Yes? 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 4: Are you ready for a break? 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: Ready for a break? 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so much for that. 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: Right with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us Votch Lombardi and 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 6: Hello, guys, welcome back to another episode of the Break, 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 6: presented by LG. And Derek is not here today. I 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 6: heard watch Lombardi's name in the intro. That's the first 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 6: time I hear it. 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 7: Big Voice guy held us down today. I know it 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 7: was on that last time, but last time I didn't hear. 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 7: People came to me and say, yo, vat did you 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 7: hear Big Voice guy say your name. It's like, no, 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 7: You'll never let Big Voice guy say my name. 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: Abby, Damn. 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 4: Big Voice guy didn't say my name twice. I guess 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 4: I'm part of the crew. Now. 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 8: That's exciting goodness, I tell you what. 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, rough little whistle, there we go. 26 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 7: Don't hate Brian bro I'm sorry they've me. 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: Saying your name for thirty years. 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: So them with some f bombs behind my name. 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 4: How to say it. 30 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 5: Is? 31 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 4: They've been saying Brian. 32 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety nine. 33 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 4: I don't know how to say nineteen ninety nine experis, 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: but but thirty years for sure? Cowboys? Go ahead, please, 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, go ahead, Oh. 36 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 9: Boy, Bucho Viejo right with that old We're just taking 37 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 9: this show over, k Hody, let Ambar talk please? 38 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: All right? 39 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 6: Well, before we do the one started, just wanted to 40 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 6: give a shout out to Derek. He's not here today, 41 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 6: but his baby boy is graduating. 42 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: Congrats, Congrats, congrats. 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 6: I can imagine he's being very emotional right now, but 44 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 6: congratulations to him and his whole family. That's very exciting. 45 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 6: And for today's show, I was telling much before we 46 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 6: started that I have a set of questions that they're 47 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 6: just kind of all over the place. 48 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 8: Nothing new has really happened since. 49 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: Last week Wheelhouse. 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 6: It's nothing too crazy, honestly, But we're gonna start with 51 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 6: the first one right now, looking at what the roster 52 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 6: currently looks like. And I don't want to get too 53 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 6: ahead of myself and talk about training camp, but why not, 54 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 6: right sure, which position group currently has the most depth 55 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 6: and which is the biggest concern heading into training camp. 56 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 7: I think your offensive land room area again is pretty full. 57 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 7: You know, we walked into you know, we walked into 58 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 7: the off season thinking that a couple of people were 59 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 7: gonna getting a lot of reps and that person was 60 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 7: a starter listed as a starter, and the Cowboys made 61 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 7: a Hugh Mugs move in a draft to kind of 62 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 7: mitigate that. So now you have starter level backup guys, 63 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 7: and they may not be guys that you wanted to 64 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 7: be started for seventeen eighteen games, but starting for seven games, 65 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 7: eight games, nine games, we know that. 66 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: They can do that. 67 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 7: Plus, there was just this group of guys that were 68 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 7: just signed how came Identergy and you know Charles that 69 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 7: came out of retirement. So you know, there's a gang 70 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,559 Speaker 7: of offensive line here. So if you're talking about real competition, 71 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 7: a lot of those guys maybe not at the top 72 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 7: of the old line room, but the bottom of the 73 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 7: room is definitely gonna be, you know, fighting for their life. 74 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: Watch real quick on the depth of that offensive line though, Yes, sir, 75 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: and you mentioned some guys coming like retirement guys and 76 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: guys that are kind of being bouncing around the league. 77 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: But do you feel like there's somebody out of that 78 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: backup group that is going to emerge as one of 79 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: the ten the weekly maybe at ninth or tenth guy 80 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: that we're gonna talk about, Oh man, this is our 81 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: swing tackle, this is our swing We kind of think 82 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: like Hoffmen and guys like that. 83 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: One of those guys that they've. 84 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: Brought in, Jones, some of those guys gonna be a 85 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: a vital piece. 86 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: Is gonna have to be a tackle. Brian. 87 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 7: I don't I don't see this world where somebody takes 88 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 7: big Tyler's job or Booker's job, or you know, BB's 89 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 7: done his job at center guy, and we know who 90 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 7: Brock is. But if there's any question mark, if there's 91 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 7: any question mark on his offensive line right now, it's 92 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 7: your left tackle. 93 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 4: Now. 94 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 7: I think Tyler Guiden will be fine. He just needs, 95 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 7: you know, he just needs to get a little bigger 96 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 7: and strong. And we saw him a little bigger and 97 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 7: a little strong. We got a little more time for 98 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 7: him to lift some weights and stronger, eat some peanut butter. 99 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 7: But we got to see got to. 100 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: See crustables need to come into play real fast. Right. 101 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 7: But you know, if you just lay it all out, 102 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 7: I don't see a world where Sadiq Charles is taking 103 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 7: Tyler either either Tyler's job right, But what if Austin 104 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 7: Richards has a rediction. 105 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: That's what I want to talk about there, And I 106 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: know Ambart's a great question, but I want to talk 107 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 3: about I want to talk about Austome Richards stuff. I 108 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: think it's about time for Awesome Richards to step up 109 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 3: really and all of a sudden, we've noticed him at 110 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: camps before, a g You and I we've all there, 111 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 3: We've all stood out there and like, oh, look at 112 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: Awesome Richards. That one on one rep. That's pretty good there. 113 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: Oh you know what I'm saying, you'll get a chance. 114 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: You get yet you're the show. Yeah, get ready to 115 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: get there. But to me, that's what I'm saying, if 116 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Awesome Richard shows up as a 117 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: guy that's really seriously competing at the left tackle spot, 118 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: huge win, huge win for the Cowboys. 119 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 7: Now, how Bryant, how good does Austome Richards have to 120 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 7: be to seat Tyler Guide? Because they're gonna give Guide 121 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 7: every opportunity to the job. However, we saw Tyler Guid 122 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 7: and got a little healthy last year and was still taking. 123 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: Coaches fighting for their jobs. 124 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: Coaches fighting for their jobs there, that's a hey, we 125 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: have to we have to win, we have to cover, 126 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: we have to do They were they weren't going to 127 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: they they weren't going to play that kid. It's a 128 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: shame did it all went down that way? But you 129 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: had coaches fighting for their jobs that that wasn't gonna happen. 130 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 7: So whether it be guided playing poorly or if Awesome 131 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 7: Richards just emerges, right, that's that's really how good does 132 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 7: Auesome Riches have to be in order for us to 133 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 7: go all? 134 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: Right? 135 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 7: That was the previous playing Awesome Richards is killing it 136 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 7: right now like a like a Dak Prescott, Tony Romo. 137 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 7: We can't deny a young kid anymore. How good does 138 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 7: awesome have to be? 139 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 6: I think it comes down personally For me, it comes 140 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 6: down to consistency. Can you consistently be good? Because I 141 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 6: think he's shown traits of being good and what he 142 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 6: could be. But to me what I've seen, it just 143 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 6: hasn't been consistent. Now that has to do with how 144 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 6: much opportunities, how much playing time do they give him? 145 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 6: And you already talked about that. What was happening last year. 146 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 6: But I think if you can consistently show up, that's 147 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 6: something that is very valuable, especially especially in the O line, 148 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 6: that's something that you really need to have from somebody. 149 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 6: So that's number one. Yeah, bullet point for me. How 150 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 6: consistent are you? 151 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 7: What's kind of happened with Bass and all those guys 152 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 7: and Nathan Thomas and those guys. 153 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: What's gonna happen to see the. 154 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: Nathan Thomas one? We don't really know about there. My 155 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: hope is that Nathan Thomas is a guard. You know, 156 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: we always talk about in college football the red shirt 157 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: where you don't you know, you maintain your eligibility, but 158 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: you don't play that year. 159 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: What you do then is you go into the weight room, 160 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: you do all these things. 161 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: Hopefully's the diet, the meals, working with you know, the 162 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: extra work that he's getting with the strength coaches and 163 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 3: you know, the trainers and stuff like that. Hopefully he 164 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: comes back as a different guy that way, because we 165 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: once he got to camp, it's like it was just 166 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: very very brief. Oh he's over on field too, he's 167 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: overdoing this, he's overdoing you know, we didn't get to 168 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: see that player that we maybe thought that came out 169 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: of Louisiana when they drafted him. 170 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: So my hope is that all of a sudden. 171 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: He's competing with Hoffman, He's competing with bass. I think 172 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: Hoffman's on this team because I think he's your backup center. 173 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: So that's where now everybodybody else, I think is free game. 174 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: If I could circle back though about with about with 175 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: what's going on with Geyton, I think Giton is going 176 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: to have more rope than than than maybe anybody else 177 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: that competes with him at that spot. You know, I 178 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 3: really really really do, because I think that they want 179 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: him to be that guy. I think they I think 180 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: they really really want to see and maybe that's something 181 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: with Jerry and Steven and Will ask Brian Schottenheimer, Hey, 182 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: find ways to get some of these guys involved that 183 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: we drafted. And I think there's going to be times 184 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: where all of a sudden we're looking at Geyton and 185 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 3: we're saying, whoa good repod, Oh that was a bad rep. 186 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: Oh that was another bad rep. I think he's going 187 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: to have some rope here, but I would love to 188 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 3: see some competition over there, and if the best guy wins, 189 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: let that be the case. 190 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 6: Also, that's the nature of when you're drafted in the 191 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 6: first round. Sure rope is going to be a little 192 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 6: longer than so it's going to be an interesting Smith 193 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 6: petition there as it was kinda it's kind of. 194 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 4: Trust more trust. 195 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 7: We can feel this whole saving watch this, Uh, ladies 196 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 7: and gentlemen, Brian bro bar Garcia, if I could just 197 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 7: name another unit that's kind of packed up in there, 198 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 7: and I think it's gonna bring a little bit of 199 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 7: controversy come camp times. 200 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 4: Those edges. You know you you you you draft a guy. 201 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: Micha is a guy. 202 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 7: Dante Fowler is a guy that was here and he 203 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 7: wasn't really you know, he wasn't really utilized properly. Confusing 204 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 7: he goes to Washington Football Wizards. 205 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: The football Wizards, we've learned about. 206 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 7: Double digit sack guy. I imagine he's gonna come back 207 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 7: here and he'll be used as a double digit sack guy. 208 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 7: Marshawn Kneeling, young guy, Peyton Turner. It's probably gon be 209 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 7: like a rundown guy for you. What does this leave 210 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 7: Sam Williams. That's why I'm asking you, guys, where does 211 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 7: this leave Sam Williams? In this this room full of 212 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 7: full of edge guys, full of past rush. And you 213 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 7: can only rotate and and and bring so many of 214 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 7: those guys. 215 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: To the bus. What about what about edge? Do we do? 216 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 2: We do? 217 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 4: We do? 218 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 7: We lose somebody that we didn't think woul that we 219 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 7: didn't think that we would lose. 220 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: Right, I wonder how much rope that Sam Williams has. 221 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 3: See That's the thing about it is with Sam. And 222 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's people watching this right now and saying, hey, 223 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: brought us you cut Sam Williams. 224 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: He will be on someone's roster, you know, blah blah blah. 225 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: We saw it with Randy Gregory, Yeah we saw you know. 226 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Guy's got a lot of talent. But 227 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: Ambar says, how about some consistency, Give me some consistency, 228 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,239 Speaker 3: you know, go out there. There's times where he's flashed. 229 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: That's what scarre scouts to death. So all of a 230 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: sudden you see this flash player and you're like going, 231 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: whoa wait a minute, this guy and then you know, 232 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: kind of disappears. This is a big year for Sam 233 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: Williams because there's guys now that had been drafted by 234 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: previous regimes that are no longer here and you don't 235 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 3: have that. And I've sat in a lot of those 236 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: personnel meetings, you know in the summertime where the coach 237 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: is like, oh, we've got to have this guy. Well, coach, 238 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: he's not, well, go we got. We can't play without 239 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: this guy we get, you know, and now, so I 240 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: think Sam Williams is kind of in that category right 241 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: now where he must step up. And people again are 242 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: out there, I guarantee you, oh yeah, I just kind 243 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: of brought us. He'll be on somebody else's team and 244 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: he'll be doing something else, are they right, Ambar. 245 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 6: Absolutely, I think that's the consensus and a lot of 246 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 6: people that watched that. But I think Sam Williams, obviously 247 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 6: his injury came at a really bad time for him, terrible, 248 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 6: terrible time, and he. 249 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: Was might not a way got valor if if you 250 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: had a guy like that and. 251 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 8: He was ascending. 252 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 6: But at the same time, something that I think he 253 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 6: embodies what the Cowboys look for in a guy that 254 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 6: represents the star. And this goes beyond the field. What 255 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 6: you don't see, it happens behind the scenes. He's a 256 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 6: guy that has been showing up consistently last year, even 257 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 6: though he wasn't on the field and he was recovering, 258 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 6: he was always there. He was always and I say 259 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 6: always quote unquote, but every time I saw a community event, 260 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 6: who was there showing up Sam Williams showing Oh. 261 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: I thought you were going to take this another way? 262 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 8: What way? 263 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna take this in the way 264 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: that he likes to drive fast and cause problems time because. 265 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 8: For something that happened. 266 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I'm just saying I thought you 267 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: were gonna say, well, we don't. 268 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: Really get quick. 269 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 8: He has learned from that experience. 270 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 3: I think when I got a race team, I'd love 271 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 3: saying first one. 272 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 8: I think it's changed and he has improved. 273 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 2: Okay, I see what you're doing here. I see what 274 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: you're doing. 275 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 8: That happens since that incident. 276 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: Will effects playing a good way? 277 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 6: Will effect Think that again, if you are committed into 278 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 6: showing up to the recovery and the training and with 279 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 6: those coaches and training and doing everything that you need 280 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 6: to do to get back onto the field, it's. 281 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 8: Going to show up on the field. 282 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 6: Now, penalties and all that crazy stuff that has happened. 283 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 6: As far as discipline, I think he's a motivated guy, 284 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 6: and I'm rooting for him right now. 285 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 7: This team has has shown you that they have a 286 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 7: hard work and wire receiving a hard working right guard. 287 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 7: And both those guys got bumped down by better dudes. 288 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 7: Shout out of saying I'll we make it because look, 289 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 7: we need you, we need you player. But uh boy, 290 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 7: it's some It's some guys in that room. And if 291 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 7: I had to think about what my NASCAR pass Rushie 292 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 7: packager look like, it'll it'll be Micro over there. It'll 293 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 7: be Dancy or Michael roaming around somewhere, Dante over there, 294 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 7: Donovan'll be getting some os. Is probably gonna be in 295 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 7: the middle of somewhere Overshawn when he's healthy, he's blitzing 296 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 7: from somewhere. 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Are they building for twenty twenty five playoff, 374 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 6: push or laying the groundwork for twenty twenty six again 375 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 6: looking at a lot of young talent that they've brought in. 376 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: I know what he's going to say, but go ahead, 377 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: I gotta leave it off. I go ahead, No, go ahead, Well, 378 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: I mean so polite. 379 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 7: Well, if you're drafting a guard, I'm gonna agree with 380 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 7: what he says. If you're if you're drafting a guard 381 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 7: and a you know, like a young pass rusher and 382 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 7: a running back, that would make me think that they're 383 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 7: looking for the future. But you you you rolling some dice, 384 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 7: yeah on this pickings thing, you know, and they value 385 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 7: third round picks like some teams value first round picks. 386 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 7: So if you want to give that thing away just 387 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 7: to have another dude up in here, I think that 388 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 7: says a lot about what they're trying to do right now. 389 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 7: I feel like as long as you have four, you're 390 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 7: in the fight somehow, like like Dak is you know, 391 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 7: he's here, he's healthy. You're in the playoff situation somehow. 392 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 7: So from there, if you're trying to win this year, 393 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 7: it's your job to to give him what he needs. 394 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 7: And it's been a while since Dak has had everything 395 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 7: that he needs. Or just think about how the Eagles 396 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 7: run things, right, if Dak had one of those type 397 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 7: you know, deals or whatever, We're just constantly filling their 398 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 7: roster up. The Eagles show you how urgent they are 399 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 7: to win championships, and they win championships, right, So this 400 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 7: Saquon Barkley move and them may be a George Pickens 401 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 7: move for like just this top tier player, and we're 402 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 7: giving up all of our resource for it. They didn't 403 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 7: do that, but we give up all just this third 404 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 7: round pick that the Cowboys love. 405 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 4: To go get George Pickens. I was shocked by this. 406 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 7: And he's on the last deal of his the last 407 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 7: year of his deal. Yeah, the Cowboys shooting the dice 408 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 7: on this. 409 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right, my friend. 410 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: That's a situation where too, you know, even look at 411 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: what they're doing on the defensive side of the ball. 412 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: With the addition of the linebackers, you know, the defensive line, 413 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 3: the guys that they've added there. You know, they've added 414 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 3: veteran guys, a couple of guys on some one year deals. Heck, 415 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 3: we just talked about Fouler, you know. I mean they've 416 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: added some guys to try and make a run right 417 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 3: now and be competitive. I don't look at it as 418 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: band aid type moves, but I kind of look at 419 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 3: it as like, you know, sometimes you go bottom fishing, 420 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: and it's like you get what you get. You get 421 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: some trash fish on your hook. 422 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: You know. 423 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys they had a plan for what 424 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: they wanted to do to trading wise. I think the 425 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: fact that they stayed aggressive even after the draft, that's big. 426 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 3: Going after George Pickens. You know, they said, you know, 427 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 3: they saw a situation George Pickens probably not fitting in 428 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 3: with what the. 429 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 2: Steelers are doing. 430 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 3: The fact that they even talked about Bateman from the 431 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: Ravens that's a second round pick, but he wanted more 432 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 3: money and stuff like that. So they they're trying right now. 433 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 3: The right guard helps the quarterback. The young running back 434 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 3: helps the quarterback because he might be the future guy. 435 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: When this is all said, and done. But look at 436 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 3: the things that they were able to do with the 437 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 3: wide receiver. That might be a one year rental for 438 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: a third round pick. That's an aggressive move right there. Defensively, 439 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: Like I said, they've added a lot of some veteran 440 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 3: guys over to that side of the ball. This is 441 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: not really a long term thing involved. This is more 442 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 3: about playing for now. 443 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 4: Ah, brother, let me ask you something. 444 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 7: You remember a couple of days ago, Shottenheimer did his 445 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 7: you know, press conference or whatnot, and they was like, hey, Shotty, 446 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 7: what win to the Pickings thing? 447 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: Right? 448 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 7: And Shotty was like, oh, yeah, we did a ton 449 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 7: of research and we felt good and we all talked 450 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 7: about it, and we all got together as a great 451 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 7: big family, talked about George Pickens pulled the trigger. Now 452 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 7: he's here. Comparing contrast that to when Mike McCarthy was 453 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 7: on the radio one O five three and asked him 454 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 7: about Trey Lance and Mike and Mike was like, I 455 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 7: didn't even know that they were trade for Trey Lance. 456 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 7: Trey Lance just happened to pop up on my doorstep. 457 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 7: Nobody asked me about the quarterback situation or what I 458 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 7: thought about backup at all. 459 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: Just Trey Lance is here. 460 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 7: Now what do you think about the differences in those 461 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 7: two situations? Who like does one have more power than 462 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 7: the other or was Mike McCarthy just not interested in 463 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 7: team in team building when Schottenheimer is Dan Quinn when 464 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 7: he needed help, happening to get all the help that 465 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 7: he wants. So now we're here Schottenheimer Draft day, Bryant 466 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 7: tapping on the board, fighting for his guys. Right, he 467 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 7: has a saying what's going on? He gets these guys. 468 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 7: Mike McCarty, Oh, yeah, it doesn't matter who you pick, 469 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 7: got X, Y, Z and bar. 470 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 4: What do you say about what I just said? 471 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 6: Well, again, looking back at that first press conference that 472 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 6: where the Cowboys were introducing Schottenheimer as a new head 473 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 6: coach and something that they talked about and that Jerry 474 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 6: Jones mentioned that he gained a lot of respect from 475 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 6: Brian because times where he knew when to keep his 476 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 6: mouth ghost. Yeah, but that didn't mean he wasn't aware 477 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 6: of what was happening, and when the time came, he 478 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 6: let it all out and talked and really voiced his opinion. 479 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 6: I think that just it instilled a lot of respect 480 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 6: and it gained a lot of power. He was able 481 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 6: to gain power, and again, when you start talking to 482 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 6: him and listening to him, you started just buying what 483 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 6: he's selling and falling for what he's doing. And this 484 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 6: is just a difference of personality. It's not to say 485 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 6: that Mike McCarthy wasn't respected here and that the Cowboys were, 486 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 6: you know, paying attention to what he was trying to do, 487 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 6: because they did a lot to kind of let him 488 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 6: do his thing. Obviously, there were times where you had 489 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 6: question mark, like the running back position, there were a 490 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 6: lot of question marks what was happening there in some 491 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 6: of the decisions that were taken with that position specifically. 492 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 6: But Shottenheimer, even though he doesn't have the experience, what 493 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 6: he's doing, is very magical in the way that he's 494 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 6: been able to gain so much power here and to 495 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 6: be listening is especially during the draft, making those decisions. 496 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 6: So it just goes back to saying, it seems like 497 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 6: everybody gets along and everybody is on the same page 498 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 6: and in tune, and there's no those random oh wait, 499 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 6: what y'all did that? Yeah, I didn't know about it 500 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 6: first time hearing about it. So everyone seems to be 501 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 6: in sync with this and he goes back to the 502 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 6: new culture that he's trying to put here with the team. 503 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 7: I just think it's interesting because you know, fans will 504 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 7: get on social media and fuss and look, I'm fans also, 505 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 7: I'll go out there and fuss like one of the 506 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 7: Jones is doing anything. I wonder if Mike was just 507 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 7: one of these guys like, hey, just give me the 508 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 7: guys and I'll just coach w whatever that you that 509 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 7: you get for me, right. But I wonder if the 510 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 7: Joneses this whole time, they just had this checkbook waiting, 511 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 7: waiting for Mia McCarthy and he just didn't use it. Schottenheimer, 512 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 7: twenty days on the job, goes, hey, man, some gotta 513 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 7: happen here, here, here, here, here, And now we see 514 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 7: stuff happening. And this has been one of the more 515 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 7: active offseas that we've had. I just wonder if that's 516 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 7: because of the head coach. 517 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's not afraid to speak and walk around and 518 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 6: say hey, I want this or I want that and 519 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 6: voice it. And I think when you walk around with confidence, 520 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 6: it just it changes the environment that you're starting to 521 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 6: create around you. So I'm excited to continue to see 522 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 6: what all they're building here. Next question for you guys, 523 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 6: which undrafted and we haven't really talked about undrafted free 524 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 6: agents on this show, but which undrafted free agent or 525 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 6: late round pick has the best chance in again ahead 526 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 6: of ourselves because we haven't seen real practice, but who 527 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 6: has the best chance of making the fifty three man roster? 528 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: Man? 529 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 3: Do I need to go into my film? MafA? Well, no, 530 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 3: it's I'm saying though, but late draft pick? 531 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: Right? Is that? Was that the question? 532 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 8: Late draft pick? 533 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 534 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: I know you're going to say the Auburn tight end. 535 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 3: I know what you're gonna do there. I'll let you 536 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 3: explain that one. Uh, the I could say I'm interested 537 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 3: in Vatch and I were doing our show last night 538 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: and we were talking about this. I want to be really, 539 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 3: really really wrong about film MafA. I want to be 540 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 3: wrong about him. And I'm saying this right now in 541 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: a way of I'm intrigued by what the cowboys are 542 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: going to see in this guy, because me personally, I 543 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 3: know when we were doing work on the Draft show, 544 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: there was guys like Alan from you know, Syracuse, Crosskey, 545 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 3: Merrit from the from New Mexico, Arizona, U the colleges 546 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 3: and you know, and then Crossky Merrit gets selected right 547 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: after MafA does, and so now you're like going, WHOA, 548 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: And I know Vatch was on cross Ky Merrick. So 549 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 3: now you've got somebody in the division. And if he 550 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 3: turns out to be and an early indication reports are 551 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: like people are like, whoa, they got this late round guy. 552 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: So I'm interested ambar and and and and I'm interested 553 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: if MafA is going to come in and look better 554 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 3: than Williams and Sanders and can he pair with Blue? 555 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: That's that because they they have done something there that 556 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: I personally wouldn't have done. But that's them, and that's good. 557 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 3: That's that's their jobs to do that if they pull 558 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: this off where all of a sudden, film MafA comes 559 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 3: in here and is a physical running back that's you know, 560 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 3: getting tough yards. And then and you know, maybe they're 561 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 3: looking at more of the inside game stuff too. When 562 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: you draft a guy like Booker, maybe they've come in 563 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: and evaluated. Maybe we're not gonna see as much of 564 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 3: pinning polls and things that we talked about. Maybe it's 565 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 3: going to be about combo blocks and deuce blocks and 566 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 3: second level blocks and those kinds of things. You know, 567 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 3: maybe that element of getting the ball on the edge 568 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 3: is going to turn into Blue being on the edge. 569 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: But if Phil Moffa comes in and shows in training 570 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 3: camp he's that tough kind of a runner that we 571 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: saw a little bit at Clemson. Man, tip of the 572 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: cap to them, because I personally would have gone a 573 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: couple of different directions there other than him. 574 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: I'd love to be proven wrong about that. 575 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 4: One as far as mine. 576 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 7: You know Brown, we already talked about this back and 577 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 7: forth about this, you know fair Weather from Auburn. 578 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, tight end. Sometimes it's not about how good. 579 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: Your quarterback player was all over the place. They're terrible, terrible. 580 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 7: Sometimes it's not about how how good you are versus 581 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 7: the whole team. Right, he may be the seventy something 582 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 7: best player on his team, it doesn't matter. It's about 583 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 7: his room and his role in that room. That's why 584 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 7: I think it's going to give him an easier route 585 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 7: to the team or whatnot. Right, Because if you're a 586 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 7: let's say you're a pass rush, you gotta go against 587 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 7: the three other pass rushers. There's Michael Parsons is there, 588 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 7: Donovan is there, Dante. It's tough for a young pass 589 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 7: rusher to come in and take pass rush reps. Not 590 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 7: only is tight end easier small room, but the tight 591 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 7: end room is broken down into rolls, right like Jake's 592 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 7: the one guy that is what it is. Then you 593 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 7: got these blocking tight ends. So Luke and Brevin are 594 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 7: kind of fighting each other. But then there's like this 595 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 7: jump ball, red zone guy, catch, radious guy, vertical guy, 596 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 7: seam guy, John Stevens, who. 597 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 9: We thought John Stevens was John Stevens, and we were 598 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 9: ready to give that to John Stevens absolutely. You know, 599 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 9: previously it'll be like hendershot of something. He'll be the 600 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 9: downfield kind of guy. 601 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 7: But John Stevens torn a cl and then he tore 602 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 7: it again, or tore the same or just tore two 603 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 7: different al I don't know. He's coming off a cl 604 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 7: right now. So if you're fair Weather, you don't have 605 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 7: to be better than Ferguson or Luke or Dak Prescott. 606 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 7: You just got to beat John Stevens, yeah, coming off 607 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 7: ACL new coaches, whatever, whatever. And they're the same kind 608 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 7: of guy, that same vertical downhill guy. So if you're Fairweather, 609 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 7: just make a couple more plays, just don't drop pass 610 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 7: us If John Stevens isn't blocking all that well? Man, 611 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 7: Let me come in there and block some special teams 612 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 7: is very important for that section of the roster. Go 613 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 7: out there and tackle somebody, and I think that's the 614 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 7: air quote easiest route. There's no easy route to this thing. 615 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 7: Everybody's gonna have to fight for their life out there. 616 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 7: But I think typically tight ends are kind of raised 617 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 7: by four like Dak makes these guys you know, as 618 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 7: good or as bad as who they are. So just 619 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 7: imagine Fairweather go out there making plays, jumping over people. 620 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 7: Dak's high point and he's jumping up and getting over people. 621 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 7: Farewell's gonna have a great argument to. 622 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: Make this team. 623 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 6: It'll be a fun training camp for sure. 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They're 686 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: on this list. 687 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 8: Alright, guys. 688 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 6: Next question for y'all, which position battle should fans watch 689 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 6: most closely? 690 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 8: In camp? 691 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 6: Corner, running back or swim tackle which would already? 692 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 7: So let me ask you this, how are you wording battle? 693 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 7: For example, this is what I've been talking about, right, 694 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 7: If Tyler Booker is in a battle, do you mean 695 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 7: the Booker of the battle that he's having with Hoffman 696 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 7: or the battle that he's having with Masi or something 697 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 7: like like? Which like which battle we're talking about? You 698 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 7: won't think about it. 699 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 6: You're going to the script to me, Okay, I No, 700 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 6: I'm thinking in general, because I'm thinking, Okay, is anybody 701 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 6: actually set one hundred percent? Even when you look at 702 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 6: Corner for example, sure. 703 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 8: No, no, even though he's a starter, right. 704 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 6: So it's still like I think all of these positions 705 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 6: have question marks around them. 706 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 707 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 7: Well, if that's the case, Corner is definitely the room 708 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 7: that's that's fighting the most. We have a room full 709 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 7: of outside guys. 710 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: We don't really have a whole person Butler. 711 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 7: You know, so so you know, and and everybody's knee 712 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 7: is hurting. So not only are they, you know, fighting 713 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 7: to be better, but they fighting and get healthy first. 714 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 7: So that's that's gonna be kind of an issue there. 715 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 7: Besides that, I mean, I don't really have a good 716 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 7: idea of who your first three corners are, Like, yeah, 717 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 7: they're fighting for their spot, but who are those guys 718 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 7: going to be? Because I don't even know when the 719 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 7: like even even Revel, right, Revel may be cleared and 720 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 7: good to go, but is he going to be the 721 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 7: Revel that we watched on film last year? 722 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 4: Bryan? 723 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: So it trust. 724 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 4: Durron, Bland and Elam are are probably. 725 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 8: The contract year for him, right for sure? 726 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 4: For sure? 727 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 7: So Bland, Elam and Kayln Carson. If Bland is your 728 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 7: best guy, do you just throw him in the nickel? 729 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: You know? 730 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 7: If Bland is cornerback one, does he travel and then 731 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 7: you kind of move those other guys around. I think 732 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 7: it's a weird little a weird little battle. 733 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 4: With a corner. 734 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 735 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 3: Butler's too, I think I think you have to include 736 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: Josh Butler in that group too. 737 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: Is he healthy? What is he going to back? 738 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: I think he's he's healthy. 739 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 3: I think that to me, Like I say, he'll be 740 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 3: a part of the part of the I need to 741 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 3: I do need to check on him. I'm interested to 742 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 3: see what's going to happen. 743 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: It's safety And I say that in a in a way. 744 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 3: Of because the previous regime man really really liked Wilson 745 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 3: and Hooker, and so now where does this regime stand 746 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 3: when it comes to Thomas and Butler? 747 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 2: You know? 748 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: And a guy that I almost mentioned is a rookie 749 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 3: ambar that maybe a guy that Elijah Clark, you know, 750 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 3: the safety from Syracuse. He was a guy that when 751 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 3: if you watch him play and if you if you 752 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: just go on, how much signing bonus the Cowboys gave 753 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 3: to these undrafted rookies, he was a top dog. And 754 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: last you saw last year where span Ford was, he 755 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 3: was the top dog. So they think enough of this kid. 756 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 3: My gut feeling is this guy probably sat Clark sat 757 00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 3: pretty high on their draft board. 758 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 759 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 3: So if that's the case, sat high on draft board, 760 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 3: he got a sizable bonus. Is he competing with Is 761 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 3: he trying to knock Thomas out? Who got money? Is 762 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 3: he trying to knock Bell out? Who got money? Are 763 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 3: they trying to knock Wilson out? Who would be cap 764 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 3: savings if you knock him out? 765 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 4: You know that's important. 766 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, I always you know, Mickey would always say 767 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: follow the money. 768 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: In this case, you might follow the money. 769 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 3: But but I think there's going to be some legitimate 770 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 3: competition at the safety spot depending on how guys. I 771 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 3: don't think it's I don't think you could put it 772 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: in pen that Wilson and Hooker are going to be 773 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 3: the starters when you open on Thursday night in Philadelphia. 774 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 4: Brian Bros. 775 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 7: Do you think does Brian brod Us think that if 776 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 7: Mark He's Bell outplays Donovan Wilson? 777 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 2: I would hope he, I would hope. 778 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 4: What does Brian Bros Think? 779 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 2: Because no, No, hope is hope is terrible plan. Hope 780 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: is a terrible plan. A lot of hope. 781 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 7: If Mark he's Bell, goes out there, tears it up, 782 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 7: whoops it. Yes, he's covering better. Sure does he get 783 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 7: the toms? 784 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 2: Sure? 785 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 3: Sure, absolutely, I'll say it because I I do believe. 786 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 3: I do believe that Thomas Bell, Clark Clark being new. 787 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: I think it's there's a fresh approach now. 788 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 3: I talked to Mike Zimmer for a long time before, 789 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 3: you know, before training camp and when we're out there 790 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 3: in ox Start, and he was talking about he was saying. 791 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 2: You know, I really like Wilson, I really like you 792 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: know Hooker. 793 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, And I said, well, I need to 794 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 3: keep my down mouth shut because I was always trying 795 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 3: to replace Hooker, you know. And then so but I 796 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 3: just kind of feel like Bell and Thomas have to 797 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 3: feel like they caught a break here with a new 798 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 3: new coaching staff, especially new coaches in the secondary. 799 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 7: There was a lot of times last year or a 800 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 7: year before where we'll be having trouble from a coverage 801 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 7: you know, and you and you play safety like coverage 802 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 7: is what you do. And Cowboy Nation, Cowboy fans were 803 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 7: just sitting around tapping a watch, going, man, when are 804 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 7: we gonna try something different? 805 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 2: Oh? No, it hadn't always been that way. Yeah. 806 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 3: I took an ass kicking from fans about Hooker and 807 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 3: then he got extended and. 808 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 2: Like, oh see what you think, bro? You know, and 809 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: then then then we get the well he's not playing 810 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 2: very well right now, you know, And I'm like, okay, 811 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 2: tell him you was right brow, No, I'm not. 812 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 3: That's not the idea is. The idea is though, that 813 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 3: you try and get ahead of that, you try and 814 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 3: get ahead of paying a guy, and then all of 815 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: a sudden and it doesn't work out. You could say 816 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 3: that right now about Wilson. It just hasn't worked out. 817 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 3: Like you know, the Cowboys started with guy's super tough, 818 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 3: he's super physical. 819 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 2: But you know, you have to play with instincts. 820 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 3: You have to be able to tackle well, and you 821 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 3: can't make mistakes and if they put you in coverage, 822 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 3: you can't get it exposed. 823 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 2: These are things you. 824 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 3: Have to kind of think about when you're when you're 825 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 3: talking about safety play well, I hope they get a 826 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 3: fair shake. 827 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 8: Then, bro, what are people saying in the chat? 828 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 7: Uh that that they're having that, they're having buffering issues. 829 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 4: So y'all watch them. 830 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 2: Get better equipment. Yeah, get better equipment. 831 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 4: You have to watch the podcast. 832 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 6: Oh we gotta pay for y'all salary here, ay me first, 833 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 6: and then. 834 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 4: Go and get you get you down white, go ahead, please? 835 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: All right? 836 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 6: You mentioned MICHAEH. Parsons earlier and about moving him around 837 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 6: a lot. Is it smarter to keep him full time 838 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 6: rushing or moving him around like a chess piece. 839 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 7: Well, we've been fighting this fight since we found out 840 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 7: that Micah can can pass rush, you know. And uh, 841 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 7: some coaches will tell you the coaching philosophical reasons why 842 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 7: you shouldn't move him around. And then we'll play Cleveland 843 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 7: and Miles Garrett is just stepping walking over your center 844 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 7: and you go, damn boy, showed be nice and we 845 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 7: can do some of that now. 846 00:38:58,960 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 16: T J. 847 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 7: Watt doesn't move. He plays on his side. But when 848 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 7: you see Miles Garrett just floating around, you just get jealous. Right, So, 849 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 7: I think when Michael got most of his sacks, it 850 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 7: was him hovering over a gap and b gap. That's 851 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 7: when he really got got busy. Something we called on YouTube, 852 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 7: find the scrubs. 853 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 4: What we call it right. 854 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 6: Uh. 855 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 7: And something that will bother me is we'll go play 856 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 7: the Giants and we'll just line michaeh over Andrew Thomas 857 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 7: all pro Andrew Thomas the whole game. It'll make me sick. 858 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 7: And look, Michael got sacks on Andrew Thomas. But boy, 859 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 7: imagine how many sacks you can get on John Michael 860 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 7: Smith if you just line them up over there. So 861 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 7: I do think you have to think about the the 862 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 7: the you know, base of your defense being you know solid, 863 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 7: and we're not gonna move him so much that he's 864 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 7: getting washed out of these plays. But it just gives 865 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 7: the other side one more, one more thing to think 866 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 7: about if Micah's all over the places as opposed to 867 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 7: I don't have to look. 868 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,439 Speaker 4: I just know he's right there. 869 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, why don't you find a way? And this is choice. 870 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 3: I used to say this, you know what, what's coaching? 871 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 3: What's what's coaching? 872 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 2: Wait? Paid these guys, we wait what's coaching for? See? 873 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 3: To me, this is where to me moving Mike around 874 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 3: and even pairing finding him not I agree with wauch about, hey, 875 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 3: find the weakest link on that offensive line and just 876 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 3: let it try, but try and do your best to 877 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 3: set it up where it's one on one where that 878 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 3: weak link can't get help. You know, you move him around, 879 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 3: but also pair him with other guys that can pass rush. 880 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with putting him with Osa and you 881 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 3: get a pick and a twist. There's nothing wrong with 882 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 3: putting him on the same side with Fouler and making 883 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 3: them have to deal with two guys. You know, all 884 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 3: of a sudden, Wow, they've got two legitimate rushers on 885 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 3: the outside here. There's nothing wrong with standing him up 886 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 3: and letting him run right through the B gap and 887 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 3: making a back and if they know a team is 888 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 3: going to be very reliant on a running back with 889 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 3: Blitz pickup help and putting Mike on that back and 890 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: getting that one on one matchup. 891 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 2: It might happen one or twice, one. 892 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 3: Or two times a game, but maybe it's one or 893 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 3: two sacks you get in a game, and maybe that's 894 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 3: the difference in the game. So yes, move him around, 895 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 3: find favorable matchups, but also pair him with other linemen 896 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 3: that can that can cause problems and make teams have 897 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 3: to deal with blocking two guys to the same side. 898 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,439 Speaker 7: Well, Brian Brosley Man ask you is is this the 899 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 7: first time Mica has had like a real running mate 900 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 7: from from a past rush standpoint, right, like like tank 901 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 7: Tank Lawrence. 902 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 2: Hank started going down. 903 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 7: He's always been a great rundown, but he's never been 904 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 7: It's been a long time, a long time since double 905 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 7: digit sack is double digit sack. Michael hasn't had a 906 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 7: double digit sack running mate. Well, we got Dante foul 907 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 7: who's a double digit sack guy. Now, you know, Donovan 908 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 7: is gonna be a help. He's a ricket. We can't 909 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 7: expect too much out of him, and you know, also 910 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 7: we'll just hope that we can get some good pass 911 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 7: rush from him from b gap, Is is this the 912 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 7: best crew of past rush running mates maybe not run 913 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,439 Speaker 7: stopping but pass rush running mates that Michaels has since 914 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 7: he been here? 915 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 2: Kind of feel like. 916 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 8: I know, thanks, don't hurt yourself, buddy. 917 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 2: Oh he does that all the time. I didn't. 918 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 3: I didn't even say because when you say, oh, that's 919 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 3: a great question, you're installing to try and figure things something. 920 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 8: To influence his opinion. 921 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just want to know what thought. I just 922 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 7: thought it was a genuinely good question, and both of 923 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 7: you guys. 924 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 2: What about that? 925 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 3: What about some of his sixteen sack seasons? Though when 926 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 3: it was Fowler and Parts, Yeah it was. 927 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 7: It was more so a bunch of guys like Michael 928 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 7: would get his sex. 929 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 4: But but they didn't. You didn't, You didn't. 930 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 7: You didn't think of Darence Armstrong as a sack guy. 931 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 7: You didn't think as a sack guy. You got sack guys. 932 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 7: Now that's asking is this his best group of set guy? 933 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 7: I don't know what the run defense is gonna look like. 934 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 7: I hope eber Flu's got some magic. Does he can 935 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 7: just spring along everybody and just run game? 936 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 9: Just I think I think that dealt with I think 937 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 9: that's gonna come down Overshown was going to be a 938 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 9: pass rusher for see that. 939 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 7: Apparently Shamar James is gonna be a pass ords. Is 940 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,479 Speaker 7: this the best group of past? 941 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 3: See that's the thing with Tjamar James that we saw 942 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 3: at at Florida. We were worried about. And we're not 943 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 3: getting to see every single practice. You know, once a 944 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 3: week you get to see a practice. Maybe the other 945 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 3: practices he's messing up things. But it sounds like to 946 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 3: me he didn't play with a lot of instincts at Florida. 947 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 3: So what you say, put them as a will linebacker, 948 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 3: let them rush, So maybe that's something. 949 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 2: That you need to do. 950 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 3: I think overall, if you look at potentially with Osa 951 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 3: being a pass rusher Parsons, as we've mentioned, I think 952 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 3: that even you know, I think that it's kind of 953 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 3: we'll see, you know, with the Fowlers obviously going to 954 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 3: give you give you some stuff there. I don't know 955 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 3: if it's the best group he's played with. 956 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 8: You know. 957 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 6: What the difference is, I think is that going into it, 958 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 6: you you in your mind kind of know what to 959 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 6: expect based on their previous experience, as opposed to the 960 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 6: previous group. Not from last year, but like a couple 961 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 6: of years before you didn't know what to expect, but 962 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 6: then they were shining and make it happen. That's the difference. 963 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 6: It's like one is you have guys that has shown 964 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 6: it before versus the others that it just kind of 965 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 6: happened without you necessarily respecting me. 966 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 4: Doris Armstrong getting nine sex wasn't on anybody. 967 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 2: Okay, see that's it. As Araco be that guy. I 968 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 2: mean that that to me. 969 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 3: If you want to ask me that question, and I'm 970 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 3: thinking about Okay Faller as Roku, I'm thinking about these guys. 971 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 2: I'm thinking but we don't know. 972 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 3: I mean, we've seen him at the collegiate level have 973 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 3: huge success. 974 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 7: So now is Donovan as the third pass rusher and 975 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 7: if you're let's say you're doubling Michael or Michael has 976 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 7: some actual attention that now Donovan is Aroku gets the 977 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,919 Speaker 7: better looks, the better one on one looks. 978 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, if Eiraku could be a factor as a pass 979 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 3: rusher with Fowler, maybe we'll see with Sam Williams how 980 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 3: that all plays out and stuff like that. But you know, 981 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 3: if you if if Israku then shows up, like you know, 982 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 3: we think that he all might, then I would say, yeah, 983 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,439 Speaker 3: but we'll have to see Ezerako be that guy. 984 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 7: One last point too, is I know Ambarre ready to 985 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 7: get up out of here. One last point is I'm 986 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 7: a person if this offense scores the way that it 987 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 7: that it should and the defense against so many more 988 00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 7: opportunities to. 989 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 3: That's that's yeah, that's the key. You You've got to 990 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 3: find a way that you can't be in. I didn't 991 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 3: want to say that. 992 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 4: What else is there to say? 993 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: That you think you think you know long reach bottom. 994 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 8: You're gonna have to ice dot arm. 995 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 4: Appreciate that. 996 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 6: Please well, thank you guys so much, Thank you watch. 997 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 6: Thank you Brian for always having a lovely energy. 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