1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media. 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome back to it could happen here. I 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: am your occasional host, Molly Conger, and today I have 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: exactly the kind of story you probably expect when you 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: hear my voice on this feed. A white nationalist has 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: gone and done something we all wish that he was 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: not doing. If you listen to my show Weird Little Guys, 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: you already know a little bit about this particular guy. 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 2: On that show, I talk about white nationalists, Neo Nazis, 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: right wing extremists, aspiring terrorists, things of that nature. My 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: domain is mostly guys you've never heard of because they 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: failed to live up to their goal of becoming the 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: next Hitler or whatever. It's funnier than it sounds, I swear, 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: But unfortunately for all of us, sometimes one of those 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: guys breaches containment talking about today, wants to be more 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: than just one of the weird little guys trying to 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: make a name for himself on the fringes of the 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: white nationalist movement. He wants to be a Congressman. He's 19 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: trying to make himself everybody's problem, and that makes him 20 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: part of what is happening here. Back in August, Representative 21 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: Nancy Mace announced that she wouldn't seek reelection in South 22 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: Carolina's first congressional district and she would instead focus on 23 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: making a run for governor, And that announcement opened the floodgates. 24 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: All but one of the ten Republicans vying for the 25 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 2: nomination to replace her filed their paperwork after the announcement. 26 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: I don't pay a ton of attention to this sort 27 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: of thing. It's not really my wheelhouse. But last month 28 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: a man named Tyler Dikes joined the race, filing paperwork 29 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: as a congressional candidate in Mace's district. Now, like I said, 30 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: it's a crowded field. There are ten people in this primary, 31 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: and it's Nancy Mace's district. So being a little bit 32 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: of a conspiracy theorist with an extremely right wing policy 33 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: platform doesn't really set you apart. They all kind of 34 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: blend together most years. I probably couldn't tell you a 35 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: whole lot about every primary candidate in my own district, 36 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: let alone won two states away. So on the surface, 37 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: he's just another carbon copy America first Zelot trying to 38 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: fit this particular mold. He's created an image for his 39 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: campaign that's not unlike Nancy Mace's and I guess that 40 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: makes sense, right. These people voted for her, so maybe 41 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: that's what works here. Tyler Dykes's campaign website is pretty 42 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: similar to Nancy Mace's. They both emphasize their personal connection 43 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: to military service. Nancy Mace graduated from the Citadel Military 44 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: College and Hyler Dykes features photos of himself and his 45 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: Marine Corps dress blues. They both describe themselves as entrepreneurs 46 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: and business owners, and they both hate immigrants so much 47 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: that their lust for mass deportation isn't even confined only 48 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: to the pages devoted to their position on the issue. 49 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 2: It's in their candidate biographies, and they frame themselves as fighters. 50 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: There's a lot of fight based language, fighting for America, 51 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: fighting for Christ, and they both really position their devotion 52 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: to God as something they have to fight for and 53 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: fight against the Christ hating whardes on the left to 54 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: keep like this is something someone's trying to take from them. 55 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: Their platforms are pretty similar to America first, South Carolina first, 56 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: law and order, tough on crime, deport millions of people. 57 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: Nancy Mace is running for governor on eliminating the state 58 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: income tax and if he gets to congress. Tyler Diyke 59 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: says he wants to slash taxes too, But of the 60 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: five main policy ideas on his congressional campaign website, the 61 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: one that's about taxes the tax that he will cut 62 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: as a congressman. He wrote that he will end property 63 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: taxes now. Regardless of how you feel about property taxes, 64 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: those are imposed by your state and local government. The 65 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: federal government doesn't tax your property. So I guess he's 66 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: got that Republican tax cut spirit. But he's a little confused. 67 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: But overall just another far right America First candidate trying 68 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: to elbow his way into this attention economy. It's distasteful, 69 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: it's bigoted, it's chrysto fascist, enophobic, poorly articulated, economically unsound, 70 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: but it's not unique or interesting. These guys are a 71 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: dime a dozen and they'll mostly be gone by the 72 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: time the primaries end. But there is one really weird 73 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: thing about Tyler Diyke's campaign messaging. He keeps bringing up 74 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: that he's not a Nazi. He wants you to know 75 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: that no one's asking him this. He's bringing it up preemptively. 76 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: I am not a Nazi. Letters that he mailed to 77 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: the homes of hundreds of voters in his district are 78 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: starting to raise questions he thinks are already answered in 79 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: those letters. 80 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 3: And here's the thing. They still call me a Nazi. 81 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 4: To this there they still random me is all these evil, 82 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 4: horrific things. 83 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: But let me tell you this, what makes me a Nazi? 84 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: I love Christ, I love God. I love my country. 85 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 4: I love my safe, my family, and my community and 86 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: the entirety of the Low Country area. And that's why 87 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 4: I live here because I love it so much. So 88 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: does that make me a Nazi? Does loving your family, 89 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: loving God? Does love in your country? Does that make 90 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 4: you a Nazi? 91 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 3: That makes you a nazi? 92 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: Sophiets, Oh wow, he's just another tragic victim of cancel culture. 93 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: He's being attacked by the woke mobs who hate good 94 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: Christian men, and that's why they're calling him nazi. 95 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: Right? 96 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: Is there another reason that this keeps coming up? Or 97 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: is it just because he loves his family so much? 98 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: So it's quite interesting. You know, my experience is anily six. 99 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 4: For example, my brand is a neo Nazi domestic terrorists 100 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: because of the wave. 101 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: Oh it's not just because he loves his family. It's 102 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: because he's a peaceful, patriotic supporter of Donald Trump who 103 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: visited the Capitol Building and the communists who run the 104 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: mainstream media are unfairly showing a photograph of him where 105 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 2: he was simply waving hello to a friend. And that's 106 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: why they're calling him a Nazi, because he loves America 107 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: too much and he waved to load to a friend 108 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: while on a sightseeing trip to the Capitol Building. It 109 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: probably won't surprise you to know that that is not 110 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: the whole story. He's getting closer. It's definitely a little 111 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: bit more about what specifically he was doing with his 112 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: right arm at the top of the east stairs of 113 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: the Capitol Building a little after two pm on January sixth, 114 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. It's more about that than it is 115 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: about his love of his family. He's getting warmer. See. 116 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: The reason he keeps bringing up that he doesn't want 117 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: to be called a Nazi is because there are Nazi allegations. 118 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: But these allegations aren't just lies from the evil left 119 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: wing media. It's something he's been asked about by the FBI, 120 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: by the DOJ, and the Marine Corps and police in 121 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: multiple jurisdictions. Across several states. A lot of people are 122 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: asking him about the Nazi thing, so it makes sense 123 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: that he'd want to get out ahead of it and 124 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: assure the voters that there's a good explanation when he 125 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: brings up that innocent wave that's being taken out of 126 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: context to smear him as a Nazi. He's talking about 127 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: a photograph, a particular photograph and one of many that 128 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: federal prosecutors included in their sentencing memorandum after Tyler Dykes 129 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: accepted a plea agreement in federal court, he pleaded guilty 130 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 2: to two counts of assaulting an officer during the breach 131 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: of the Capitol on January sixth, twenty twenty one. In 132 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: exchange for his cooperation, the government dropped the other eight 133 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: counts on the indictment. So in that sentencing memorandum there's 134 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: a picture. It's a still frame that was taken from 135 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: a video, but obviously you can't put a video on paper, 136 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: so it's just a still frame, and it shows a 137 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: mass of people making their way up the east steps 138 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 2: of the Capitol Building on the afternoon of January sixth. 139 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 2: Whoever's taking the video was standing at the bottom of 140 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: the stairs, so you're just seeing the backs of the 141 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: people in this crowd who are walking up the stairs, 142 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: except for the figure in the center. In the center 143 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: of the picture, at the top of the stairs, a 144 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 2: very tall man in a black jacket and a gray 145 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: mask has turned around so he's facing the plaza below, 146 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: and he's sort of squared up facing down the stairs, 147 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: and his right arm is completely extended at about a 148 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: forty five degree angle, elbow straight wrists, straight, fingers together. 149 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: The government's caption reads still from video showing Dikes performing 150 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: what appears to be the Sein Kyle's salute after he 151 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: arrives on the landing in front of the East Rotunda doors. 152 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: He maintains that he was waving to a friend. For 153 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: what it's worth, I've seen a lot of these waves, 154 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 2: and I know what it looks like to me, and 155 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: regardless of what it looks like to you in this photograph, 156 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: I have a video of him doing the exact same 157 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: wave at a Nazi rally, so it's not just a picture. 158 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: He only served three of the fifty seven months he 159 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: was sentenced to spend in prison before he was released 160 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: in January of twenty twenty five. As a result of 161 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: Trump's blanket pardons for the nearly sixteen hundred January sixth defendants. 162 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: But that's not the issue here. He's not ashamed of 163 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: being a January sixth defendant. That's a badge of honor. 164 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: That's not a problem. If he can spin this Nazi 165 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: thing into a story that reinforces this narrative of brave 166 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: January sixth patriots who are being persecuted by communists and 167 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: liberals and the wop mob, it stops being a problem 168 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: for the people whose attention and votes and donations he wants. 169 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: So his story is pretty simple. All the people calling 170 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: him a Nazi are lying. They're taking a single photograph 171 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: out of context. It's not a Nazi salute. It's a wave. 172 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: And all of this, all of this Nazi talk, it's 173 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: all just about this one single incident, this one picture, 174 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 2: this one wave, and the government, the government is preventing 175 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 2: him from proving that to. 176 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 4: You and then the honorable judge that I had denied 177 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 4: me being able to get that evidence and being able 178 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 4: to show the other people, and so a lot of 179 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: these people, unfortunately, because of a lot of the news 180 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 4: media and because of the efforts of the Biden administration. 181 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 4: They see me as an enemy and as a terrorist. 182 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 2: That's Tyler Dyke's in mid October of this year, telling 183 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: a local TV news crew in Hiltonhead that the media 184 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: is complicit in spreading these lies the government told about 185 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: him in court. When he was interviewed last month by 186 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: a conspiracy theorist and right wing podcaster named Anne Vandersteele, 187 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: she was on his side. She was earnest and she 188 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: wanted to get to the bottom of this. He told 189 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: her that the government's entire case was lie after lie, 190 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: and there's proof that he never did any of those 191 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: things on January sixth. And she's excited to hear this, 192 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: and she wants to see these videos because she would 193 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: love to see proof that the government is persecuting our 194 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: brave January sixth patriots. But there's one little problem. 195 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: Well, you know that's a very funny thing. The honorable 196 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 3: judge in my case actually put out a gaggle order 197 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: banning me from being able to have any of the 198 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: discovery evidence for me to be able to defend myself 199 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 3: from these That is the in the dockets. 200 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: Oh, it's in the dockets. It's in the dockets. Phenomenal 201 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: I can look at the dockets. We can look at 202 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: that together. That's easy. And I do see here that 203 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: there is a protective order filed in this case. Shortly 204 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: after he was first arrest the judge entered an order 205 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: prohibiting the public dissemination of certain discovery materials. If you 206 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: look at enough J six cases, this kind of protective 207 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: order was almost universal. The government didn't want to publicly 208 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: release stuff like the names of confidential informants, security footage 209 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: from inside certain secure government areas, personal information about witnesses, 210 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: just a laundry list of kinds of evidence that was 211 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,239 Speaker 2: likely to be produced in these cases that would be sensitive. 212 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: So they're not saying they can't turn it over to 213 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: the defense in discovery. They're just saying this stays between us, right, 214 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: This doesn't get released to the public. This was normal 215 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: and it was routine, and it was agreed to by 216 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: everyone involved. The Defense council agreed to this. So okay, 217 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: off to a good start. I do see a protective 218 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: order on the docket. But if you skip down a 219 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: year down to the bottom of the docket, to the 220 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: end of the case, after the guilty plea, the government 221 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: filed their exhibit list for the sentencing hearing, and in 222 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: that document, the federal prosecutor wrote, the government does not 223 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: object to any photo or video evidence being released to 224 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: the public. So of the exhibits they planned to show 225 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: in court at sentencing, they said, it's okay if everyone 226 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: sees these, the media can have these, And so the 227 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: judge in turn asked defense counsel how they felt about that, 228 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: and the defense replied, defendant Tyler Bradley Dyke's buy and 229 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: through his attorneys, does not object to the video and 230 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: photo evidence identified and the government's noticed ECF number forty 231 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: four being made publicly available. Defendant does subject to any 232 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: public disclosure of his military records identified in Exhibit nineteen. 233 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: And so the judge signed an order the exhibits that 234 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: the government identified for the sentencing hearing, which the file 235 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: names are in that document. It includes the video of 236 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: the wave, the video of him grabbing the policeman's shield, 237 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: the things he's saying he can't get based on the 238 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: file names, those videos can absolutely be requested from the court. 239 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: These aren't under seal. There's not a gag order. He 240 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: can request these and I think he should do that. 241 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: There are a lot of videos on that exhibit list, 242 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: and I'm sure people would like to decide for themselves 243 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: if he's describing them faithfully. The only exhibit on that 244 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: list for the Defense objected to making publicly available. The 245 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: only one that remains sealed and isn't available for public 246 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: access are his military records. Those military records are specifically 247 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: the ones related to the other than honorable discharge he 248 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 2: received from the Marines. See those campaign flyers, the ones 249 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: he was mailing to people's houses. They're all signed at 250 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: the bottom. Tyler Dykes, US Marine Corps veteran business owner, 251 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: pardoned J six's patriot On November tenth, the Marine Corps birthday. 252 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: He posted a photo of himself in his dress blues 253 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: on the campaign's Instagram account. Being a Marine Corps veteran 254 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: is as big a part of his campaign identity as 255 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: talking about how he's not a Nazi. These are kind 256 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: of the top two things. He's a marine, and he 257 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: really wants you to know that Nazi stuff isn't true, 258 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: and he was a marine. That's true. He definitely was 259 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: in the Marine Corps. But those military records that he 260 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: doesn't want released would really undermine his narrative about being 261 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: a proud honorable veteran who definitely isn't a Nazi, because 262 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: they would show that he received an other than honorable 263 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: discharge for participating in prohibited extremist activity on November eighth, 264 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, and that's in the file. I know that 265 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 2: specifically is in that sealed file because in other documents 266 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: that refer to it, that's all it says. I don't 267 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: know what else is in that record. All I know 268 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: for sure is that the stated reason for his other 269 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: than honorable discharge is something that happened on November eighth, 270 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Now, luckily for us, I know that on 271 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: November eighth, twenty twenty, a security camera in Sumter County, 272 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: South Carolina recorded footage of two men. One of the 273 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: men looked exactly like Tyler Dikes. Even his father had 274 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: to agree it kind of did. And the men were 275 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: putting up flyers with swastikas on them outside local businesses. 276 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if his military discharge records include anything else. 277 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: Was it really just the flyers, just the one time 278 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: with the swastika flyers and that was it. I don't 279 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 2: know if the military was aware that he had been 280 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: attending things like a paramilitary training weekend at a compounded 281 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: Michigan hosted by members of the neo Nazi group the Base. 282 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a memo in there about 283 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: the time in January of twenty nineteen that an FBI 284 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: agent from the Joint Terrorism Task Force questioned him about 285 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: his possible connections to domestic extremist groups. I don't know 286 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 2: if the Marine Corps knew that he was one of 287 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: just a handful of white nationalists who attended the Unite 288 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: the Right Too, the flop of a Nazi rally held 289 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: in Washington, d C. In twenty eighteen to commemorate the 290 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: deadly rally that had happened a year earlier, and along 291 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: that same line of thought. I don't know if the 292 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: Marine Corp knew back then the Tyler Dykes had attended 293 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: the Unite the Right rally in Charlesville in twenty seventeen. 294 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if they saw the videos of him 295 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: marching with a tea he torched, or the videos of 296 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 2: him punching wildly at counter protesters that he'd helped trap 297 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: in that sea of flames. And with the exception of 298 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 2: the Unit the Right rally in twenty seventeen, which was 299 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: before he enlisted. All of the rest of that conduct 300 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: occurred while Tyler Dykes was a Marine. He went to 301 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: Nazi rallies, he joined Nazi groups, he put up Nazi flyers, 302 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 2: he went to Nazi training camps to prepare for the 303 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 2: race war, and he fought his way into the Capitol 304 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: Building on January sixth. So, okay, yeah, he was a 305 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: United States Marine. He can post that picture in his 306 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: uniform on his campaign website. I don't care. I'm not 307 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 2: personally offended about him being a stain on the honor 308 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 2: of the US military or whatever, but I think a 309 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: lot of voters would feel like this isn't quite honest. 310 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: By the time Tyler Dykes was arrested in twenty twenty 311 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: three and extradited back to Virginia to face charges for 312 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: men missing those counter protesters with a lit torch, he'd 313 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 2: already been kicked out of the Marines. He had apparently 314 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: hidden that fact from his parents, and there was a 315 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: lot they didn't know about their son. The day he 316 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 2: was arrested in twenty twenty three, he'd been out with 317 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: other members of a group called the Southern Sons Active 318 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: Club a sort of white supremacist fight club for friendless 319 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: young men. They were trying to hang Nazi banners from 320 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: a highway overpass, but Tyler Dykes was bitten by a 321 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 2: dog and had to go to the hospital instead. He 322 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: eventually pleaded guilty to that felony charge in Almarle County, 323 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: Virginia related to the torch March, and he spent a 324 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,479 Speaker 2: few months in the local jail. On the day he 325 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: was supposed to go home, he was picked up by 326 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: a federal marshal. The doj had waited until the last 327 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: day of his sentence here to unseal the charges against 328 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: him for January sixth, and after that he spent a 329 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: year out on pre trial bond in that case, and 330 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: then he eventually pleaded guilty to those charges in the 331 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: summer of twenty twenty four, and he finally reported to 332 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: federal prison in October of twenty twenty four, expecting to 333 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 2: be there for almost five years, but he was released 334 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: a few months later in January of this year after 335 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: receiving a federal pardon. And now he wants to go 336 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 2: back to the Capitol Building, not as a rioter this time, 337 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: but as a congressman. The campaign is barely a month old. 338 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 2: He's using a right wing crowdfunding site for campaign donations, 339 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: so you can see that he hasn't cracked two hundred 340 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: dollars yet. The only photo of his launch party is 341 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: so tightly cropped that you can only see the candidate 342 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: himself standing in an empty field in a public park. 343 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: I don't think there's a lot of grassroots excitement for 344 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: Tyler Diykes in South Carolina's first district. But if he 345 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: does keep making the rounds, and if he ever ends 346 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: up in front of a real reporter, I hope they'll 347 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: ask him why doesn't he just produce those exhibits. The 348 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 2: videos he's claiming are being kept from him under seal aren't. 349 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: And if he's so against any exhibits being held back 350 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: from the court of public opinion, he could go ahead 351 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 2: and release the one he actually has in his own possession, 352 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: the only one that is sealed. He has his own 353 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: discharge records show him to us. I'm dying to know 354 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: how many of those Nazi rallies the Marine Corps knew 355 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 2: about before they finally kicked him out. If you're interested 356 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 2: in hearing more about this particular weird Little Guy. There 357 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: are two episodes available right now over on the Weird 358 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: Little Guy's feed. 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