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Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in

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Speaker 1: the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 2: What Up, Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. Welcome in. So I saw this story today

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Speaker 2: that I've seen several different tweets. Let's just again, I'll

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Speaker 2: be honest with you. The easiest way to use Twitter

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Speaker 2: is to only get the people that you're following, don't

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Speaker 2: worry about replies, and have it be your news feed,

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Speaker 2: and then pick and choose stories from it. So I

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Speaker 2: had several of these stories that had it stated one way,

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Speaker 2: and one story said Doris Burke has been reassigned and

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Speaker 2: she'll be on the number two crew with ESPN, But

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Speaker 2: many of them said that she's been demoted, which again,

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Speaker 2: it is accurate that she was on the number one

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Speaker 2: But why do we have to release that it's demoted?

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Speaker 2: Who actually cares? And what's the win in it for anybody,

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Speaker 2: specifically ESPN to say she was demoted? And this is

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Speaker 2: not me not defending Doris Burke. I think Doris Burke

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Speaker 2: is outstanding. I do think she was miscast calling those games.

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Speaker 2: And part of it is who she replaced. We talked

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Speaker 2: about this yesterday in the radio show with Hey, Caitlyn

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Speaker 2: de Bore, like, do you really want to be the

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Speaker 2: guy who replaces Nick Saban? Not really, right, not really?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to be the guy that replaces Nick Saban?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I do not, But it's a job you can't turn down.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they were as revered obviously as Nick Saban,

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Speaker 2: But keep in mind Jeff Van Gunny, Mark Jackson, Mike Breen.

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Speaker 2: That was a great team. So when you replace Jeff

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Speaker 2: Van Gundy, who's revered in New York as a basketball

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Speaker 2: coach and in basketball circles, Mark Jackson was revered in

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Speaker 2: head coach, Mike Breen, who's revered in New York. And

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Speaker 2: you're like, wait a second. ESPN's a national company covered

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Speaker 2: the NBA. I agree, okay, but this is kind of

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Speaker 2: TV universe can be in New York City. So Doris

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Speaker 2: was social media popular social media and players like I

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Speaker 2: love Dorisburk, but she she's it's just a it's a

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Speaker 2: hard role. One because she's a woman. Two because she

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Speaker 2: hasn't played men's basketball, and she hasn't coached men's basketball. Now,

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Speaker 2: she did play and coach as a woman. She coached

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Speaker 2: in college. She played in college. She's a very good broadcaster.

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Speaker 2: She has tendency to be a little bit on the

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Speaker 2: dry side. Dry side, by the way, is a nice

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Speaker 2: way of saying what Jase two.

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Speaker 4: Boring.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes. When people say yeah, she's just dry,

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Speaker 2: it means boring. And Doris actually has a very good personality.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those like I kind of wish she

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Speaker 2: would break it out. But I guess the question Jase too,

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Speaker 2: is why do you think they announced that she had

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Speaker 2: been demoted? Why was that the way the story was portrayed?

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Speaker 4: And by the way, this is a big gen Z term.

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Speaker 4: It was very intentional because obviously ESPN wanted to make

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Speaker 4: sure that it was reported that she was demoted. Andrew

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Speaker 4: Marshaw of The Athletic, very well respected media critic, went

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Speaker 4: with the word demoted, and then every single aggregator on

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Speaker 4: kind of like a rubbing salt in the wound. So

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Speaker 4: there must be something behind that.

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Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, there's a lot behind it, No question, there's

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Speaker 2: guys kind of bandied about. I think the first one

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Speaker 2: is that she did something to piss them off. Now,

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Speaker 2: when we say something to piss them off, it's very

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Speaker 2: it's very normal for somebody who's in real life to

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Speaker 2: go like, oh, does that mean that you know she

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Speaker 2: that's not her, right, None of those things are her.

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Speaker 2: My guess is that as this conversation, because remember there

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Speaker 2: That again, that conversation only gets out there if they

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Speaker 2: One is they did something to piss off, pissed her off,

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Speaker 2: You didn't want to doors perk. We're going to do better.

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Speaker 2: One two or three? JS two? Which one do you

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Speaker 4: I really like I like the one where she pissed

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Speaker 4: guess we'll we won't make this easy. We won't. We

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Speaker 4: But now that's the sexiest one. I always like the

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Speaker 2: So that's whe're gonna go with. She told somebody to

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Speaker 2: fuck off. Yeah, I think it's more likely the last

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Speaker 2: one that the NBA this is kissing the NBA's butt

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Speaker 2: And they didn't want doors Burke, and they're gonna want

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Speaker 2: him to add some former longtime coach. All right, if

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Speaker 2: you everage Jefferson, you're gonna ender some longtime coach.

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Speaker 2: good snapshot of what the college football seed may look

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Speaker 2: like if you're shoven into a computer that puts together

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Speaker 2: all these petrics. Kelly, let's start with Texas and Ohio

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Speaker 2: State are what one in three in the rankings? Is

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Speaker 2: that right? Is that the rankings that you have for them?

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Speaker 5: It is the rankings that I have for them, Doug.

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Speaker 5: It's good to be with you again here this season.

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Speaker 5: Excited about it, and this is the perfect game to

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Speaker 5: all of them on a zero to ten scale. This

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Speaker 5: game Texas at Ohio State to start the year noon

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Speaker 5: Ohio State as a very small favorite here fifty eight

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Speaker 5: home field advantage. This case could also be made Doug.

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Speaker 5: For me, the worst unit in this game as of

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Speaker 2: How does this predicative analysis work considering some of these

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Speaker 5: Yeah, increasingly difficult every year, and I've had to actually

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Speaker 5: tweak my process for how I generate preseason ratings. So

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is my two game of the week in watchability,

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Speaker 5: Doug with a nine point eight out of ten, and

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Speaker 5: my model views these teams very comparably. Clemson number eight

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Speaker 5: big storyline for this one. My model likes Clemson sixty

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Speaker 5: do think Clemson has just enough in this one, And Doug,

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Speaker 5: it's interesting because let's you's got plenty of big time

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Speaker 5: Clemson as the favorite in the ACC based on my

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Speaker 5: I projected spreads right now there. If Clemson wins this one,

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Speaker 5: Yeah? And done that Miami schedule, Doug. They missed Clemson

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Speaker 5: The big difference here, Doug, is the only unit that

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Speaker 2: Kelly Ford K four ratings. Check him out on social media,

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Speaker 2: check him out online. He'll be with us all year long. Kelly,

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Speaker 2: You're the best, Kelly, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, Doug really get it always fun talking to you.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox

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Speaker 2: Let's find out Who What's annoying Jason Stewart, and now

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Speaker 2: it's your annoying.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Doug. Chris Greer is the general manager of the Dolphins.

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Speaker 4: Chris Greer was asked about his interaction with fans, and

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Speaker 6: I really have had many interactions with fans. No, when

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Speaker 4: So ye, to prove that she is not not educated.

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Speaker 7: She told me, I have no class, I have no education,

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Speaker 2: In New York. Yes, that was outside of the US. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you can't fix ya, you can't fix stupid. You

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Speaker 2: can't fix stupid.

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Speaker 8: That's kind of like the uh Doug. That's kind of

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Speaker 8: like the OJS when they sang Love Train and they

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Speaker 8: are saying, Hey, all the brothers over in Africa, and

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Speaker 8: they say, oh, and also in Egypt too, dot dot dot.

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Speaker 8: Egypt's in North Africa.

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Speaker 2: It's in Africa though.

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Speaker 8: Yes, they said, all my brothers over in Africa, and

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Speaker 8: then he says in Egypt too. So yeah, that's yeah,

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Speaker 8: that's covered.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. Yesterday on the radio show, I voiced this opinion,

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Speaker 4: and you came up with a reason. I think Sam

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Speaker 4: was mostly in agreement with me, but I could be wrong.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand the hype about arch Manning. I don't

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Speaker 4: understand why he is just starting his first college football game.

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Speaker 4: If he's this good, if he is like the consensus

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Speaker 4: number one overall pick that the Saints and the Browns

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Speaker 4: and other teams should tank this season to get Arch,

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Speaker 4: then why hasn't he been a starter on an NFL team.

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Speaker 4: I think you offered up the reasoning or examples of

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Speaker 4: Justin Fields and Joe Burrow, But I want, I just

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Speaker 4: I want more information on this. So Jordan Rodgers is

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Speaker 4: known for three things. Jordan Rodgers is the estranged brother

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Speaker 4: of Aaron. He won the Bachelorette. I think he's still

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Speaker 4: with his partner in the Bachelorette Jojo. And then now

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Speaker 4: he is doing in SEC commentary and he said something

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Speaker 4: that's very interesting. This is a person who covers Texas

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Speaker 4: and the SEC talking about Arch Manning.

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Speaker 3: But I will say, and I'm gonna say this, I

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Speaker 3: don't know what you guys talked about when I went

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Speaker 3: off here. The hepe doesn't match the tape.

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Speaker 1: There are good.

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Speaker 3: Things, and there are some good things, but the height

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Speaker 3: or the tape to me, doesn't tell you got a

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Speaker 3: first round draft pick, or a top ten or number

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Speaker 3: one overall draft pick, or a Heisman hopeful I think

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Speaker 3: he's gonna go into Ohio State and he's gonna struggle

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Speaker 3: because he hasn't played anybody. The last time we saw

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Speaker 3: him against a really good defense was Georgia, and he

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Speaker 3: looked out of place. Right, he looked really good against UTSA, Louisiana, Monroe.

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Speaker 5: And Mississippi State, the worst defense in the SEC.

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Speaker 3: I think there's still a lot for him to grow,

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Speaker 3: and a lot we need to see.

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Speaker 4: Like Lewis said, feels like there's need to be there

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Speaker 4: needs to be more voices like Jordan. I feel like

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Speaker 4: most people are falling in line with the hype.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just think most people don't know.

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Speaker 2: And my thing is, again, just because you have potential

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean you help a team win immediately. And I

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Speaker 2: don't think anything will ever match up with the hype

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Speaker 2: because he's a Manning and his uncles are Hall of Famers,

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Speaker 2: and he's at Texas, which is already hyped. I do

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Speaker 2: like Jordan's perception on it. You know, if he can

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Speaker 2: show us on tape what he means, then absolutely I'm

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Speaker 2: off for it. I think more people should get that,

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Speaker 2: should have that.

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Speaker 4: So people being in bold in to tell Chris career

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Speaker 4: that his kids should get cancer, and Dustin May they

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Speaker 4: want to kill dozen May's dog, uneducated people, and the

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Speaker 4: archman in hype. Those are the topics to choose from

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Speaker 4: today for most annoying of the day. Do got with

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Speaker 4: this is a doozy, Jason.

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Speaker 2: I do think that people telling Chris Greer's kids that

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Speaker 2: they should get cancer and die is that type of

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Speaker 2: shit is the most annoying thing ever. You're annoying?

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Speaker 1: Why are we doing this? Because we can?

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Speaker 4: For those that don't note, Donald Trump won the presidency

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four. He was running against Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 4: Her selected running mate was a gentleman named Tim Walsh.

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Speaker 4: He's the governor of Minnesota. Tim Watsh two days ago,

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Speaker 4: two days ago made these comments publicly now. Earlier in

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Speaker 4: the week, Doug, in this very segment, we talked about

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Speaker 4: Joey Taylor's hypocrisy, right, she's very woke, and then she

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Speaker 4: thought it was okay to tell a fat joke about

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Speaker 4: a black eye, and I thought, that's hypocritical, Like you're

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Speaker 4: going right to the marginalized obese people. I thought they

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Speaker 4: were part of the people that you brought into the

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Speaker 4: tent you didn't alienate, right. Tim Walts does a great

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Speaker 4: job of kind of proving my point on this. Imagine

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Speaker 4: if he was talking about a woman here and.

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Speaker 9: I am proud of this state like so many others.

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Speaker 9: And I will have to tell you the privilege of

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Speaker 9: my lifetime was stand beside someone we know was the

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Speaker 9: most qualified and would have been a fantastic president in

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Speaker 9: a president Harris. And look, we wouldn't wake up every

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Speaker 9: day to a bunch of shit on TV and a

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Speaker 9: bunch of nonsense.

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Speaker 10: We would wake up to an adult with compassion and

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Speaker 10: dignity and vision and leadership doing the work, not a

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Speaker 10: manchild crying about whatever's wrong with him. May his fat

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Speaker 10: ankles find something today, Petty as Hall.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean he is. Isn't he called tampon? Tim?

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Speaker 7: Is?

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Speaker 3: It?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: Right? That is? Like, I here's the thing, Jase two is.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about this. We were doing a topic

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Speaker 2: last week this week or something, and I was thinking

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Speaker 2: of dirtiest businesses and I was like, well, politics, you

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Speaker 2: can't even put on the list because it's so much

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Speaker 2: dirtier than any other business. So I hear you on

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Speaker 2: the hypocrisy, but I also tell you that it's politics.

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Speaker 2: So they're kind of are no rules, right they are

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Speaker 2: you fat?

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Speaker 4: Not anymore there are any rules? Like the current president

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Speaker 4: has lowered the bar for discourse, like you see Gavin

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Speaker 4: Newsom and you see Tim Walls. They're dropping shit and

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Speaker 4: fuck bombs publicly, yet it never happened before Trump. And

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Speaker 4: you're and you're gonna tell me, I just started talking

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Speaker 4: about how much dumber we are as a society. You're

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Speaker 4: telling me that having the people that represent us dropping

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Speaker 4: f bombs publicly and talking about fat ankles, you think

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Speaker 4: this is this is a great representation for this country.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody does. Don't it don't So why

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Speaker 2: do we play it for you? Because we can't. That's

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Speaker 2: it for the end of the Modus podcast. You Got

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Speaker 2: the Right radio show every day three to five Eastern

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