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Speaker 1: before we get to this week's episode, I want to

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Speaker 1: a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power, written by

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Speaker 1: Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this

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Speaker 1: week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance,

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Speaker 1: a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's another episode of Selective Ignorance. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: your favorites reference Mandy B. And today we are talking

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Speaker 1: about the topic that the Internet will not stop discussing,

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Speaker 1: whether it's standards, whether it's what you wanted a partner

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Speaker 1: which you don't want in a partner. Everyone talks about

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Speaker 1: my type Nikko, that's my type. Recently, Summer Walker said

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Speaker 1: fuck her type when she showed up to the VMA's

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Speaker 1: red carpet with a tall glass of spoiled White's milk.

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Speaker 1: He needs some milk, and she pretty much told y'all

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Speaker 1: to mind your business. Also, after we've already had everything

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Speaker 1: we had to say about the two minute, she chose

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Speaker 1: to create children with.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: We also have Aisha Curry who at this point, there's

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Speaker 1: a humiliation k going on there. Aisha Curry loves to

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Speaker 1: embarrass the legend that he is the NBA superstar Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry anytime they talk about their relationship, and she recently

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Speaker 1: about how actually at first, Steph wasn't her type. Now

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Speaker 1: a wife, is that something that you should be sharing

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Speaker 1: with the world, Eh, It's tricky. And then of course

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Speaker 1: we talked about Miguel who recently had a surprise announcement

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Speaker 1: with his partner, celebrating the one year birthday of a

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Speaker 1: child with a woman that he wasn't just with for

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Speaker 1: the last twenty years. The Internet is a blaze with

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Speaker 1: the fact that this man moved on and didn't give

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Speaker 1: his last woman a child, but we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about that all next and I am joined yet again

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Speaker 1: with my super producers. We have journalists Jason in the

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Speaker 1: building to help hopefully correct me with anything I say wrong,

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Speaker 1: because surprisingly enough, I do admit sometimes I be wrong,

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Speaker 1: not often, but sometimes, and so when I need to

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Speaker 1: be corrected, Jason is here. And then of course we

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Speaker 1: got og podcast legend a King also there to pretty

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Speaker 1: much give his takes on all the things, and normally

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Speaker 1: he has a different, your undiagnosed taste that's crazy, and

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Speaker 1: that's because we can't say the R word. And then

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Speaker 1: I'm joined, but also someone who all of you follow,

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Speaker 1: you have probably been to one of his many live shows.

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Speaker 1: If not, you have played his card games, because he

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Speaker 3: Y'ah.

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Speaker 1: I am joined by Ace Metaphor.

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Speaker 3: He is the.

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Speaker 1: Creator, the host the legend of Tonight's Conversation and all

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Speaker 1: talks about dating.

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Speaker 4: Relationships, trying. I'll be trying.

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Speaker 3: What do you try?

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Speaker 4: No, No, you be doing?

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Speaker 1: You be doing? I need to know where you pull

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Speaker 1: these thoughts from, because whenever I really see you online,

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Speaker 1: it's just like, oh my god, I hate what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: but I also know a lot of people love what you're.

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Speaker 4: Saying, So listen, listen, listen. I was just talking actually

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Speaker 4: yesterday about this. I've been in this space for about

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Speaker 4: as a person that does content, because I also I'm

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Speaker 4: So like i'd be fan, you know, because you know

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Speaker 4: I don't answer the same type of question thirty six

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Speaker 1: How do you do it? Do you read? Are you

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Speaker 1: soaking in content from other people? Like for me as

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Speaker 4: So first, yes, right, So also in that same conversation,

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Speaker 4: say this I mean as a panel, it's an impromptu show.

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Speaker 1: Do you do you do? You live by everything you say?

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Speaker 4: I live by everything I say?

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Speaker 4: And the reason I say that is because and.

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Speaker 4: But let me explain. Yeah, the no one lives by

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Speaker 4: What I mean is because nobody's perfect. You can give

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Speaker 4: best practices. I can open up about my failures, which

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Speaker 4: But when you're giving best practices to other people, that

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Speaker 1: Could we can make mistakes. But I think in terms

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Speaker 4: So okay, then you know what I mean. You're giving

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Speaker 4: I think what happens is when you post things, those

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Speaker 4: three years ago that maybe I don't feel the same now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, y'all, I'm not a whole no more, like

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Speaker 4: Also though, I also think that it's the totality of

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Speaker 4: thousands of hours of recorded material.

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Speaker 4: But what happens is people will narrow in on a

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Speaker 1: Do you not feel like you make yourself into a character, Like,

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Speaker 1: the games, it's gonna come to the live shows. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: it's not the people turning you to a character. You

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Speaker 1: Jason and A King know that I live as myself

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Speaker 1: on camera, off camera, I'm the same person. But I

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Speaker 4: Do you think just a do you think that the

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Speaker 4: what I mean about a character, is not that it's

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Speaker 1: Everyone shouts how much mental health it's supposed to matter.

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Speaker 4: What dating tip in twenty twenty five to women is

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Speaker 3: That's the mean.

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Speaker 1: But number one, okay, I have thoughts on this clip

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Speaker 6: Do, and you gotta hit record in there by the way,

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Speaker 1: Every time you've thought about somebody, you've text them.

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Speaker 4: But if I thought about you, I want you to

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Speaker 1: I would just say, allow a man sometimes. Jason, how

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Speaker 1: So how long did it take you to actually get

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Speaker 2: I mean I'll say pretty quickly, I don't like okay.

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Speaker 2: I think he's on point. Your behavior changes for somebody

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Speaker 5: So what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So without is there a clear way to find

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Speaker 5: I think from the beginning, from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: From from the beginning, a woman should know if he

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Speaker 4: Before seve before like I'll give you a story.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love story time.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, I think some men categorize. So there

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Speaker 3: Certain women when you meet.

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Speaker 4: You lock eyes. The vibe is so right that the

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Speaker 4: you say, you know what, I can't half step because

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Speaker 3: Gonna happen again.

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Speaker 4: So something as simple as being consistent with text messaging,

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Speaker 4: is if they're willing to reciprocate that energy. And what

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Speaker 4: I know we're moving a little bit the gopost is

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Speaker 4: to dating. Now, they're initiating a lot of the text message.

439
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Speaker 1: Is that a problem because and I'm only asking you

440
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 1: that because I'm an initiator. Like, if I'm out and

441
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: I see a guy that looks good, I'm shooting my shot.

442
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't mind letting a guy know that I'm interested.

443
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 4: That's fine. But what I mean leading in dating, I

444
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 4: mean you are asking him when we're hanging out, you are, Hey,

445
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 4: you ain't took me out in a while. You're doing

446
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of that. If you start to do

447
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of that, he don't want to do.

448
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 4: He don't really like you like that. Now it's not

449
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 4: meaning that he can't grow to like you like that.

450
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 4: But you have to ask that woman that's dating. You

451
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 4: have to say, you know what, I'm willing to take

452
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 4: this gamble and you can't. You if you see those

453
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 4: signs you can't, then now blame him later on, when

454
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 4: this man is saying with his energy and his effort

455
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 4: that he interested, I ain't that interested.

456
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Speaker 1: I mean I think a lot of these men ain't

457
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Speaker 1: that interested in women to begin with.

458
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 4: But that's a whole other sy.

459
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I think men like to have sex

460
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Speaker 1: with women. I don't think they like women. But that's

461
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: but that's a that's that's another topic for another day,

462
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: especially living here in goddamn Atlanta.

463
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Speaker 4: Can I say one more thing? Can I say one thing?

464
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 4: I'm speaking for myself, so for all the fellas that

465
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 4: are listening, if this don't apply to you, and don't

466
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 4: apply to you, oftentimes, that man only has the bandwidth

467
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 4: to really really like one woman at a time like that.

468
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Speaker 4: And what I mean is that man can entertain multiple women,

469
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 4: but he really likes one, and so the energy he's

470
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 4: not giving you is because his bandwidth with giving that

471
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 4: type of energy is somewhere else.

472
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Speaker 1: Is that man thing or human thing? Because I feel

473
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 1: like I could, like right now, I like four people

474
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: about the same one. One I like the most because

475
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: he's been around the longest, but I like all four.

476
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Speaker 4: I agree. I'm saying That's why I said my my

477
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 4: specific thing. I'm saying, you can only like one person

478
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Speaker 4: like that, like that, when it's when it's like okay,

479
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 4: good mornings, texting, calls, FaceTime, trips day like for me,

480
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 4: I can only do one person like that with that

481
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 4: type of energy. But that doesn't mean I can't entertain

482
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Speaker 4: other people. It's just I can't. I don't have the

483
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 4: band with it.

484
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Speaker 1: And that's that's the part where where women don't understand.

485
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Speaker 3: Like is it equal percentage?

486
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Speaker 6: What do you mean for the four gentlemen that you

487
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 6: are my four boyfriends, the twenty five twenty four?

488
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Speaker 3: Who's giving? Which one of the four is given? Right now?

489
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Speaker 1: Well, because they all long distance, they all get in

490
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Speaker 1: the same energy. They all long distance. Ain't nobody look

491
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: they are not you up, but they all get in

492
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: good morning, good night. They getting phone calls, they getting

493
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: face times, they getting like but one out of the four,

494
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: they all getting the same picture.

495
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Speaker 4: You're interested in?

496
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 7: Here?

497
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 3: It counts?

498
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 4: Can I can I fight back on that?

499
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 3: So I believe.

500
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 4: I believe in her instance, speaking from a woman's perspective,

501
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 4: I'm not a woman, but I'm just giving you an observation.

502
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 4: Because women and dating typically are receivers, it's easier to

503
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 4: receive the energies from from four different men equally because

504
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 4: oftentimes they tend to be the initiators. What I'm saying

505
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 4: is from a man that has to be a giver

506
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 4: to have to be that initiator. It's hard to energy

507
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 4: different ways that makes them to a level to where

508
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 4: she would think that she's special. You know what I'm saying, the.

509
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Speaker 1: Way I'm telling everybody my birthday coming up, I better

510
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Speaker 1: feel special.

511
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 4: And outside, so to speak. So listen, let me let

512
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 4: me tell you this. Let me tell you how. There

513
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 4: is only one girl. A man, in my opinion from myself,

514
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 4: has the bandwidth to answer her calls no matter what. Right,

515
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 4: Because for that woman, if you're with another one, if

516
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 4: she's with you, you can't pick up the other girl's calls.

517
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 4: But if you're with the other girls, you can pick

518
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 4: up her call. You can walk out, you can do

519
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 4: whatever because you like whatever. But like, there's only there's

520
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 4: only one woman a man can just drop everything and

521
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 4: pick up her calls for you can't.

522
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: Have multiple unless they all know about each other.

523
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 4: And we're not doing all my boyfriends know.

524
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: About each other. I love that all of them know

525
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Speaker 1: about each other.

526
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 4: So I'm speaking of open daters without being that transparent.

527
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Speaker 1: Oh well, the archetype is interesting. Fuck my type, not

528
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: my type. We're talking types. Where we want to go first, Jason,

529
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: do we want to get into Aisha Curry or do

530
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: we want to start Summer Walker.

531
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Speaker 5: I think we should start with Summer Walker. Set the

532
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Speaker 5: table for it off.

533
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: Summer Walker. Y'all recently turned heads when she appeared at

534
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: the VMA's Red Car with an older white man. And

535
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: when I say older white man, I'm not talking Brad

536
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: pitt Old. I'm talking Hugh Hefner, old like like he

537
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: was at least six to five seventy years old. He

538
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: was an old man. She introduced him as her special friend,

539
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: and for anyone asking how deep their relationship got, she

540
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: pretty much was just like Minu business. Now, for those

541
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: of you who have not been up to date with

542
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: Summer Walker and her public dating, she has a child

543
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 1: with producer what's his name London on the Track, and

544
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: then following that relationship, she got with a man who

545
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 1: she tetted on her face who went by the name Larry.

546
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: She has also dated Little Meach and Rico Recles, who

547
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: both are in the entertainment space. I would say, I

548
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: don't know what Larry did, but basically she is now

549
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: currently a single mother of I believe three, and I'm

550
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: not mad at her right now. She's she pretty much

551
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: took to instane to say, fuck my type. It hasn't worked,

552
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna try something new now. A lot

553
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: of people are also assuming that this may be a

554
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: sugar daddy. Look you're like okay and like that. She

555
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: may be dating now for other incentives outside of intimacy,

556
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: real love, real attraction, which way to face face.

557
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 4: Because everybody dating for whatever reason, like you know what

558
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 4: I mean. And there's the sugar daddy aspect. If a

559
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 4: man is in his sixties, seventies, eighties, and he's gotten

560
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 4: to that point where he has the wealth enough to

561
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 4: share in a way, and this is how he likes

562
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 4: to express his care for somebody, let me tell you this,

563
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 4: do you.

564
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: Really do you really consider this dating then? And I

565
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: think that this has been my but this has been

566
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: my issue when and I talked about this on an

567
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: episode on an episode.

568
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: No, I gotta say this to you.

569
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: The reason why dating this prostitution.

570
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 4: We don't know that because or right now, what we're

571
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 4: doing is we're stereotyping based off of his age and looks.

572
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: And this man may be there to support her mentally

573
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 4: in the way those other men and also valid he

574
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: may also have a bag so oftentimes we talk about

575
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 4: looking at somebody's spirit. Sometimes looking at their spirit is

576
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 4: looking past their vessel. And just because this man seems

577
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: to be a little bit older, doesn't mean his spirit

578
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 4: isn't beautiful to her, doesn't mean that they don't connect

579
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 4: in a certain way. And that and let me be

580
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: honest with you, a man that's seventy and eighty, he

581
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 4: probably got a lot of patience and a lot of

582
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: understanding and a lot of empathy because he has to

583
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: grow into that, and then there's a lot of wisdom there,

584
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 4: whereas if you're the other people that you're named, I

585
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 4: don't know them like that, right, some of them sound

586
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: like Whyians, it's like and so now you get to

587
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 4: the space where you get a seasoned man. I can see,

588
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: I mean I can see, and I'm gonna say it

589
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: from a male's perspective who has has entertained older women.

590
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 4: I can see the attraction there of someone with a

591
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 4: wealth of life experience.

592
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not mad at that. I would say, if

593
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: Summer is dating this man for all the things that

594
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: you said, yes, However, if she's dating him for any

595
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: financial gain financial reasons, to me, I think I've said

596
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: it before. If you are out here dating and immediately

597
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: counting a man's pockets or what they can do for

598
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: you financially, that to me is not dating. I'm sorry,

599
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: that is. That is transactional arrangements like they're no, because

600
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: there's a there's a website called seeking arrangement. If you

601
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: are seeing, if you are seeking an arrangement, then you're

602
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: not seeking a partnership or relationship in my mind, and

603
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: that's because I've been friends with I've been friends with

604
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: sex workers, prostitutes. To me, looking at a man for

605
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: what he can do provision wise and not everything else

606
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: makes you that. However, like you said, if she wants

607
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: the emotional intelligence, the those other things that you just mentioned,

608
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: then yes, she really could be looking for something.

609
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: Y Yo.

610
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 4: You can be in a relationship with a woman you

611
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: were married to for five, ten, fifteen years and at

612
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 4: some point she sees you as the person that just

613
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 4: pays the bills, he takes care of things. A lot

614
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 4: of men have experienced that in relationships. And you ain't

615
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 4: seventy or eighty, you're thirty five and forty. A lot

616
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: of men that are taking care of bread winning you

617
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, still experience that with a youthful woman,

618
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 4: and they're still in her use. I guess what I'm

619
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 4: saying is, I'm the thing that hurts the most in

620
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 4: that scenario for the man is not knowing I didn't

621
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 4: know you were using me for my resources. I didn't

622
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 4: know you were only staying because of the security. I

623
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 4: thought you'd loved me. So if I think it's a

624
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: man gets to a phase where transparently up front I

625
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 4: know what the arrangement is, a lot of men would

626
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: be okay with that. I want to.

627
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: I want to I want to push I want to

628
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: push back just a little bit on that, because I

629
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: do feel like when you're in a relationship as a man,

630
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: like you said, and you show up as the provider,

631
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: you pay the bills, and now you're only seen as

632
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: that is because a lot of men lead with will

633
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: I do this as if that's the caveat and reason

634
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: for them being there, as to why they don't show

635
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: up emotionally, as to why they don't date anymore. I

636
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: pay the bills, I could do whatever I want. And

637
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: so a lot of times when a woman views a

638
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: man just as that, it's a lot of times because

639
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: the man puts themselves in that place to be seen

640
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: just as that because that's the value that they bring

641
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: to the relationship.

642
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: Well, we add a lot of sauce to this because

643
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 4: what I'm saying is, regardless of those variables, right, what

644
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 4: I'm saying is, oftentimes a man is motivated to do

645
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: that because no, it's not even that, it's because he

646
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: loves the woman he's with.

647
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 6: You.

648
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 4: You love that woman you're with, You trust that woman

649
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: you're with. Now, that doesn't mean he's an effective husband.

650
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: That that could be true, But what I'm saying is

651
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 4: his motivation to do that. He's not doing that for

652
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: a woman he doesn't love, he doesn't like it, he

653
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 4: doesn't want to be with no more. Oftentimes it is

654
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 4: I care about you, so I'm sharing. We're on the

655
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 4: same bank accountch you have access to my money, you

656
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: have access to my credit cards, because that's the way

657
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 4: I show I care about you. What I'm saying is

658
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: men are okay with that. They're just not okay with

659
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 4: not being on the same page. If the page is hey,

660
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 4: this is transactional. I think a lot of men, if

661
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: they wanted that, would choose that. But if you're under

662
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 4: if you're here under the pretense that you loved me

663
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 4: back also, and that stopped a while ago, and you're

664
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 4: not letting me know, and you're still reaping the benefits,

665
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 4: and then you start plotting and then the divorce and

666
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 4: you're taking money. A lot of men don't like that.

667
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 4: So man, listen, because I didn't want to even get

668
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: into the gender war stuff, but you made it. You

669
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: made it a well, he ain't doing this. This is

670
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 4: why she no, it's it's my experience as a man, yes,

671
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 4: divorced from how you feel about it as a woman,

672
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: and whatever happened in this relationship. What I'm saying is

673
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: my experience is saying I'm okay, regardless of whatever got

674
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: us here with if a seven, if I'm seventy and eighty, yep,

675
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: my first wife died. That's the only woman that I

676
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 4: want to love in my lifetime. I do not want

677
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: to get married again. I have all this money, My

678
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 4: kids got kids, and they doing their own thing. Nobody

679
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 4: called me no more, nobody visited me no more. And

680
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 4: so I got all this money.

681
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go date.

682
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go date Summer Walker, and listen, she

683
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: may not really love me like that. But she loved

684
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: me enough to not lie about that. She loves me

685
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: enough to say no, I'm not saying this is what

686
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 4: she's doing. But anybody in the situation you love me

687
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 4: enough to tell me, hey, listen, this is fun when

688
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: you with me, We're gonna have fun. We're gonna do

689
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 4: fun things'a. I'm gonna help you feel young. Now, let's

690
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 4: be honest. I'll probably not gonna marry you, and he

691
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 4: probably don't want that.

692
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: Probably don't want to be married.

693
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: I guess what I'm saying. There's people for everybody. As

694
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: long as you're upfront about your intentions.

695
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: I don't have no.

696
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: Problem with I'm not gonna lie. I one hundred percent

697
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: agree with that. Now, I want to talk about what

698
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: respect and maybe like in your husband looks like, because

699
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: the internet is saying that Ayshad Curry does not like

700
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: sub Curry does not respect him. She has come out

701
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: multiple times during the pandemic. She came out and I

702
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: believe it was another podcast she shared that she likes

703
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: the attention or would love the attention from other men

704
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: to make her feel seen, but recently she sat on

705
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: car Daddy and we have a clip for what she

706
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 1: had to say about before they became husband and wife.

707
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: What did I used to say?

708
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 7: Jason thought that he would like someone like me. I

709
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 7: just didn't think it was going to be a thing.

710
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: Friends.

711
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, did you ever have any thing in high school

712
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 8: at all?

713
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 4: Or it was legit?

714
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: Just friends?

715
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 8: Just friends, just friends. Yeah, I get what you're saying.

716
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 8: I'm like, you never saw him as something. But I'm like,

717
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 8: when you look back, is there any memory that you're like,

718
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 8: maybe there.

719
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 5: Was something or no.

720
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 7: Never, I in the beginning hated it so much.

721
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 5: I like, did not sign up for that.

722
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: I also always thought like.

723
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 7: I didn't know that he was gonna end up playing

724
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 7: basketball like I. He said he wanted to be a

725
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 7: high school basketball coach, Like I thought.

726
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 5: I thought I was.

727
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: Gonna be like the girl out there getting it. So

728
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

729
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 3: I just never what's.

730
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: It the money? So she thought she was gonna gonna

731
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: be the she was gonna be thee, she was gonna

732
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: be the big person. Thought that he was just gonna

733
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: be that also started like she thought that they were

734
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: just gonna be friends. She didn't really like him like that.

735
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: Also said she didn't think that he would like her

736
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: that that was the first.

737
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was, there was.

738
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 6: I mean, but why are we hearing so much of

739
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 6: this from you? See what I mean about clips?

740
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: Right?

741
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, but we're hearing that thing from her for the

742
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 6: last five years we had she doesn't Oh I didn't

743
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 6: like him, man.

744
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna defend that comment, though, You're gonna defend

745
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: which part the comment when she was talking about, you know,

746
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 4: quote unquote attention from other men because I don't want to.

747
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: I don't want to.

748
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, could you find the exact quote, Jason that

749
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: she said.

750
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 4: I know the spirit of what she's saying. The spirit

751
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: is imagine being with one of the most sought after

752
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 4: men in this country.

753
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: No, he's not.

754
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: No, women do not want Steph Curry. Bro.

755
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: I think men want Steph Curry because Steth Curry is

756
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: a three point shooter in the league. Women do not

757
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: want Steph Curry. Bro.

758
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 4: Okay, time out, time out. Let's let's let's let's.

759
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: Don't want him. Let no woman in my group chat

760
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: be like, damn you see Steph Curry.

761
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 4: Bro.

762
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: Men want Steph Curry because he can shoot three pointers.

763
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: Women are not out here wanting Steph Curry.

764
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 7: Bro.

765
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 4: Okay, we got to want quote.

766
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, what's the quote? Exactly?

767
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 5: All right, So this is May said she was on

768
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 5: Red Table Talk.

769
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: Yes, it's something that really bothers me and honestly has

770
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: given me a sense a little bit of insecurity. Is

771
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: the fact that, yeah, there are all these women like

772
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 2: throwing themselves at him, but me, like the past ten years,

773
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: I don't.

774
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 5: Have any of that. Any men themselves, I have zero.

775
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: This sounds weird, but like male attention, and so then

776
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: I begin to internalize it, and I'm like, it's something

777
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: wrong with me.

778
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 4: So let me let me first give context to both

779
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 4: the things. Yes, both the things are. That's why I

780
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 4: said we have to see people as human beings. When

781
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 4: you don't see people as human beings and you only

782
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 4: see her as Steph Curry's wife, then now there's a

783
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 4: level of expectation that she's not also experienced in the

784
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 4: human experience. One thing about the human experience is in

785
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: anybody who's been in a long term relationship will feel

786
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 4: this like you want to know. Yes, of course your

787
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: partner's gaze is the only gaze that truly matters. But

788
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 4: you know, when you start walking into rooms and no

789
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 4: one turns their head and that happens over and over again,

790
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: and the person you're with people turn their heads at him.

791
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 4: Like she said, she was, like, you know, you may

792
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 4: feel like he's not desirable and a lot of other

793
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: but but also you have.

794
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: To I can't believe they have so many kids. They

795
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: don't even look like they have sex.

796
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be real with you. I'm

797
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 4: gonna be real with anybody. Anybody that's six three, light eyed,

798
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 4: no no offense, like light skinned, light skin of three

799
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 4: hundred million plus plus. I mean the only reason you

800
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 4: feel that way right now is because he ain't on

801
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 4: demon time. If that man, if that man was, if

802
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 4: that man wasn't married, it was on demon time, like Clay,

803
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: like you can say, nobody, I'm gonna tell you relationship.

804
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 4: You know, I'm just saying before. I'm saying before. Clay

805
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 4: has an extensive dating history and if he was married

806
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 4: right now, nobody would think that he was that guy.

807
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 4: But like he's married, Steph has been married, so he's

808
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 4: always given off husband energy. So that repels respectful women, right, Okay,

809
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: respectful A lot of women that may not be respectful.

810
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: So when you're looking at those not respectful women. Look

811
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 4: at your husband, OK, And you look at not how

812
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: your husband looks at those not respectful women. You look

813
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 4: at how other women look at yeah, those non respectful women,

814
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: and how other men look at those non respectful respectful women.

815
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 4: And then you say, well, the women that like my

816
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 4: husband get the gaze of male attention, but I don't.

817
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: You're looking at her from a human element. But do

818
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: you think it is right as a wife, not even

819
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: Steth Curry's wife, as a wife, to complain about not

820
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: receiving male attention.

821
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying the thing about having these microphones is that

822
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: your goal is to share your experience and be brave

823
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 4: enough because there are certain people that can relate to that.

824
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 4: There's so many women in relationships right now that don't

825
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 4: feel beautif full.

826
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: Because other people not.

827
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 4: There's a lot of men, there's a lot of men

828
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 4: that have been in a relationship with a woman who hurt.

829
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: She don't feel beautiful herself, So you saying it to

830
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 4: her don't even matter no more and so and it's

831
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 4: and it shouldn't be like that. But we are human beings,

832
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 4: we are back. So when she's saying stuff like that,

833
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 4: now I'm gonna go back to the type the actual

834
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 4: thing that she was talking about. It goes back to

835
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 4: I understand the spirit of what she's saying, though, because

836
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you this, every dude, not every dude.

837
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 4: I can use certain men. You ain't the ship until

838
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 4: you become the ship. And sometimes that what I mean

839
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 4: is the motivation of being overlooked is what motivates a

840
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 4: lot of men to become something. Because these women overlook

841
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: me rightfully, so like I don't even think I hate me,

842
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 4: and to be like you that way, Like.

843
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: Was there a moment where even where you're at now

844
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: with your fame, the comments that like continuing to become

845
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: bigger because you fell overlooked at one point and now

846
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: people are throwing themselves at you because you're a millionaire.

847
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yes, but also yes, but see here's.

848
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 5: The thing, Like I never tell her to stop pocket watching.

849
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 3: I never.

850
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 4: That's what got me, But I never I never stopped.

851
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna say this, like and so I'm gonna

852
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 4: answer your question, but I'm a stick to landing on

853
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 4: the step thing. So if in high school, yes, he

854
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 4: didn't get the girl he wanted, that's what motivated him

855
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 4: to be better so he can get the girl he wanted.

856
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 4: Steph may have not have been hit her type then

857
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 4: because he didn't have the attributes he grew into having

858
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 4: when he became her type. You get what I'm saying.

859
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: So I think it's unfair to be like, well, she

860
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 4: didn't think he was her type. Maybe her type was ambition,

861
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: Maybe her tent her type with somebody that had a

862
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: certain level of grind and charisma, and maybe he had

863
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 4: to grow into that by finding his confidence.

864
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: He she said he wanted to.

865
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: Be a high high school basketball He didn't even have.

866
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: The same confidence in his ability when he was in

867
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 4: tenth grade. But then now you grow into a man

868
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: that got a confidence and that know his shot is

869
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 4: the shot, and know he gonna be this and that

870
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 4: that's a different attraction. So I don't even think the

871
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 4: spirit of what she's saying was horrible. I just think

872
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: it's up to us to see these people as people,

873
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 4: real people.

874
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: Now.

875
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 3: Going back, and it looked like she would have accepted

876
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: him if he was a coach.

877
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no no no.

878
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: No.

879
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 4: Let's be very clear here. Let's be very clear here.

880
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 4: A man that's walking in his true calling is a

881
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 4: different type of man, and that man exudes certain energy

882
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 4: that women are attracted to. If that man really didn't

883
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 4: want to be a basketball coach, but he was just

884
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 4: settling for that because that's.

885
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: He didn't think he would make the NBA.

886
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 4: The type of aura he would have exhibited, wouldn't.

887
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: She wouldn't have been with him.

888
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 4: It wouldn't wouldn't attracted that. And so I'm not saying

889
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 4: you can't be a basketball coach in a tract women,

890
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 4: It's just that gotta be.

891
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: What you what you want. I'm not mad at that. Yeah,

892
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 1: I agree.

893
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 4: I told with myself, like, first of all, i'ma be

894
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 4: honest with you this stage in my life, you know

895
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 4: what I mean. I always look for things to put

896
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 4: a chip on my shoulder, Like I always look for

897
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 4: something to motivate me to be better, or to get

898
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 4: up at six am and work into ten pm. And

899
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 4: I use that as few but not to say when

900
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 4: I get on how Hi, you didn't like me or

901
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 4: you didn't support me, you ain't gonna have a chance

902
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 4: in me. It's for me to say, you know what,

903
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 4: if this is the lifestyle I want or the type

904
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 4: of women I want or the type of access I want.

905
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 4: These are the rooms I want to be in. I

906
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 4: can't be mad at people for not giving me that

907
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: access if I didn't do the work to earn and

908
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 4: deserve that. And so I'm constantly doing that. So like

909
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 4: even in high school, I mean I probably had access

910
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: to some chicks. When I was early twenties, I had

911
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 4: access to women. I was, you know, having sex with

912
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 4: the best of them. But I was having sex with

913
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 4: women that was cool with sleeping on a mattress that

914
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: was on the floor, you know what I'm saying. Like

915
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 4: when I used to bring people to my apartment when

916
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: I was twenty two twenty three, we was fucking on

917
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 4: a mattress that was.

918
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't fucked on an air mattress before. I can't

919
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: believe I did that, but see maybe by the end

920
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: of it. By the end of it, like our knees

921
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: was hitting the goddamn ground because the air the air

922
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: was coming out. How old was I when I fucked

923
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: on an air mattress? I was, I was like twenty,

924
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: I was twenty, I feel ain't. I was working on

925
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: making my money to buy my IQ in platform bed,

926
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: which by the way, I broke so many of them,

927
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: goddamn shits them was terrible. I think it's interesting because

928
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: when we talk about the human element, you're talking about, yes, feelings,

929
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: but you're not considering the feelings of also the other person.

930
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: So let me ask all of y'all this as men.

931
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: You choose a woman, you're happy with this woman, you're

932
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: now married to this woman. Is there not any element

933
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: of where you feel a way that these are the

934
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: narratives or these are the stories, or these are the

935
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: feelings did they choose to share publicly?

936
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 3: Well?

937
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: Like, should step feel a way that these are the

938
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: topics that she chooses to keep having where it's almost

939
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: somewhat disrespectful to their union, to their to their marriage.

940
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 4: No, in the grand scheme of things, I can understand

941
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 4: the perspective of what you're asking this question, but I

942
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: also say it would be unfair taking it out of well,

943
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: I'm just saying in the context I'm talking about I

944
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 4: don't know them as people, but it would be unfair

945
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 4: for a person that gives his everything to the public.

946
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 4: That man is on the road probably two hundred he

947
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 4: gives pieces of himself. He probably stays after a basketball game,

948
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 4: signing autographs and this, and that he gets pieces. So

949
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 4: many people have an interest in his life and intrudes

950
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 4: because of who he is. Now to say that she

951
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 4: can't be also sharing a light in some type of

952
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: way with the world and what she's passionate about.

953
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: No passionate about cooking. She could sell them pots and

954
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: pants to me. To me like, literally, I have an

955
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: eye you should carry pot and pan. The skill it

956
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: it's really it's really nice to me though, when we're

957
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: talking about human experiences, human behavior. Yes, she's a human

958
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: first woman second, but she's also a wife. And so

959
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: for me, I do think that there's an element of

960
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: when I hop on this mic, when you op in

961
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: this mic, when you were a long standing relationship, you

962
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: have your thoughts, but you were considerate of the things

963
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: that you brought to the microphone because you cared about

964
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: that person. So to me, there's an element of just

965
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: not caring about your partner when you choose to get

966
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: on a mic and share something that could be detrimental

967
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: in terms of how the public is going to view

968
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: your union or the content that you're sharing.

969
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question, and I say, it

970
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: is my ex hated.

971
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: A lot of things I share on here, so I'm

972
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: very considerate with what I share on the mic.

973
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 4: Now is she a human first or a wife?

974
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: First?

975
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: I said she's a human first, then a woman then whe.

976
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 4: Okay, now the human or the wife? Which side of

977
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: her was most excited to be invited on the red

978
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 4: table talk? The human or the wife?

979
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: Probably the woman?

980
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: The human?

981
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 4: Which part of her was most excited to be on

982
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 4: calling Daddy the wife or the human? I mean the human?

983
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 4: And so what I'm saying is like, I get we

984
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 4: serve these roles in other people's lives, but we are

985
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 4: always the main characters in ours. And two often women,

986
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 4: especially wives, are regulated to be in the co star

987
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 4: in somebody else's story. In this life with her, that

988
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 4: Nigga's orbit is so big that it's probably hard for

989
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 4: her to find herself in her individuality because his gravitational

990
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: pull on what he does pulls her in.

991
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 3: You know what?

992
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: This reminds me of oh Boy who started dating Simone

993
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: Biles and as soon as he had a fucking mic

994
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: in front of him, he chose to go up and

995
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, she wasn't my type. Like to me,

996
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: and I get what you're saying with But what I'm

997
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: saying is when we talk about this big orbit of

998
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: a Steph Curry, to me, there's something that if the

999
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: roles were reversed, if if Ayisha Curry was this big,

1000
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: mega superstar and every time her partner got on a

1001
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: mic she said some bullshit. To me, there has to

1002
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: be where yes, you're human first, but there's also you

1003
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: have to see kind of what's being done, and it's

1004
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: it's whether it's insecurity, feeding it, whether it's she don't

1005
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: really respect her partner, she doesn't really like him like

1006
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: that regardless. Yes, that's the wife element of it. But

1007
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: every time a guy da microphone gets in front of

1008
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: her face, she does something that seemingly embarrasses her union.

1009
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: Which again, if you put it in hindsight, if a

1010
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: man did that to a woman, it's the same thing.

1011
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: It's the same thing that right now Sierra's getting Sea's

1012
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: getting annoyed with. Sierra's on a press run for her

1013
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: new album, and here goes fucking Russell bringing up when

1014
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put another baby in you, and the same

1015
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: thing is happening. Russell, This isn't your moment. This isn't

1016
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: about talking about y'all. In your relationship. Why can't you

1017
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: just be happy for it? Your your wife who's dropping

1018
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: an album hasn't dropped an album in a while, like,

1019
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: and people are talking about him, Like, bro, just support

1020
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: your wife.

1021
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 4: You just said, and he's gonna do it exactly what

1022
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 4: you just said, the same that's the same thing is true.

1023
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 4: This woman who has supported you to where you can

1024
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 4: be one of the biggest basketball stars in the world,

1025
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 4: because she's locking down the home, she's coming to the games,

1026
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 4: she's there when you had a bad practice to speak

1027
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 4: life and you this, that and the other. Why can't

1028
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 4: we expect him in this moment to support her? She

1029
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 4: got a call to be on Call her Daddy, one.

1030
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: Of the biggest podcasts on the plane on the planet.

1031
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 4: And so to make this moment about how I feel

1032
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 4: about something you said here and there? That is your truth.

1033
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 4: When you have supported me in all the decisions that

1034
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 4: I've made for this family, that to me would be

1035
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 4: that would be grossly unfair. So when I'm saying to

1036
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 4: you is, while I do understand that there are certain

1037
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: things you can say in public that would disrespect your marriage,

1038
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 4: I don't think she did that. Okay, I think we

1039
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 4: are just feeling this way because of her orbit to

1040
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 4: Steph Curry, and we think because she's with Steph Curry,

1041
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 4: she shouldn't say anything like this at all, when we

1042
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 4: all know that what she said is the experience of

1043
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: so many women and men.

1044
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: Okay, like what she said, Like I said, I mean,

1045
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: I don't agree, but what man?

1046
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 3: What man? No, I'm not gonna put me in under

1047
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 3: the bus.

1048
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of men that may be married,

1049
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 4: that may be married. You go out with your boys,

1050
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 4: you you don't necessarily look for women to look at you.

1051
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 4: But if a woman came up to you and was like,

1052
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 4: oh you so handso blah blah blah blah, you're gonna say, man,

1053
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 4: I'm married. You know what I'm saying. No, that's not

1054
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 4: what hold on.

1055
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 3: Up here. That is not.

1056
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: Do not woman go up to a man and be like,

1057
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: ooh you so handsome. I guarantee you the note response,

1058
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. That is not the response Jason the journalist.

1059
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 5: Sure, but maybe maybe they can appreciate that.

1060
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 6: But maybe you don't have to say. Maybe you could

1061
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 6: just receive that and that's it. That'll be the end

1062
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 6: of converss. And they do not respond like a response

1063
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 6: from the woman. That's an opportunity to.

1064
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: Allow y'all to live right now, that does not be

1065
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: the response. Married men do not respond to that.

1066
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 4: Overall point is.

1067
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: If they are interested in it. If they are not

1068
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: interested in the woman, if the woman is not attractive,

1069
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: they might say that. If the woman is an attractive woman,

1070
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: they do not lead with I am married.

1071
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 4: No, they don't sit there and entertaining woman.

1072
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: If you subjective, I have to keep the cigarete.

1073
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 4: Let's let's make it not about she came and approached.

1074
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 4: But let's say you walked in and a woman looked

1075
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 4: at you a certain type of way, right, it it

1076
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 4: as huge means that does do something for us. It's

1077
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 4: it's not like it has to replace, like I said,

1078
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 4: the gaze of your partner. But when you start going

1079
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 4: year after year after year after year, right, and no

1080
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 4: one gives you a look, and then, let me tell

1081
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 4: you why with her. The reason men probably don't look

1082
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 4: at her way at all.

1083
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: Because they want her man.

1084
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 4: No, no, no, because they know who a man is, right, respectful.

1085
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 4: That's not a shot at all. So now it's just like, damn,

1086
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 4: I know he thinks I'm sexy. My husband, and yes,

1087
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 4: that should be enough. But there's so many people in

1088
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 4: the world that can relate to her experience. So that's

1089
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 4: what I'm sayings not to Savannah. Hey, listen, I'm glad

1090
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 4: Savannah would never she.

1091
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 5: She's not on the microphone, you know what I'm saying.

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00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 4: Whole podcast.

1093
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 5: I know, but she's not the guest. She's she's the

1094
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 5: home So she's asking the questions.

1095
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: She's not.

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00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: She's talking. She shared her experience being Lebron James, but

1097
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: vacilatiously where you're like, because she ain't disrespected, But I

1098
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: don't think she's being silatious.

1099
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 2: Like, consider this, right, when we're talking about relationships and types, right,

1100
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: on a basic level, what people are seeking is to

1101
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: have a partner, right, whether that's marriage or not, they're

1102
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: seeking to have a partner.

1103
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 5: And so Aisha is somebody who has that.

1104
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: And so she's speaking about her participation in it and

1105
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: how way back at the beginning, she didn't think this

1106
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: person would be there to have the thing that she

1107
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 2: has now, right, and so like, in some ways, it's

1108
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: I think she's also demystifying the process.

1109
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 5: Marriage is weird, it's strange, and it's difficult.

1110
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: And way back at the beginning, this person who I

1111
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: didn't even think I would get to, who just wanted

1112
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: to be a high school basketball coach. Right, I didn't

1113
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: think he was my type, and I didn't think that

1114
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 2: I was his type. And now we're here, I don't

1115
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: necessarily think it's like her like disrespecting, as much as

1116
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 2: sort of like demystifying the process.

1117
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 5: Granted, it's a clip, so I don't know the.

1118
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: Full extent of it, but you know that that's usually

1119
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: you speak to a lot of people who are in

1120
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: deep relationships.

1121
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 5: And the beginning of it was I didn't think.

1122
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: It's funny because I want to lean into a little

1123
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: bit of what A said earlier with now with Summer Walker.

1124
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: But even this, with what we're saying about Aisha Curry,

1125
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: you put a really you put some really good information

1126
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: in here about why most people actually end up dating

1127
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: someone who isn't their type. So relationship researchers Paul Eastwick

1128
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: and Samantha Joel did a twenty twenty five studies, So y'all,

1129
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: this is this is current. You can ask people all

1130
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: day what they find attractive and a partner, but none

1131
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: of the many traits people list including physical attractiveness stand

1132
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: out is being more important than the rest in predicting

1133
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: how satisfied people are with their relationships. I'm curious to ask.

1134
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: I know, you're you're divorce a king, You're damn. I'm sorry,

1135
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I want to know if, even you, Jason,

1136
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: who you guys ended up with the longest in your life,

1137
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: if they were your type? Why or why not?

1138
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 4: Who?

1139
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: As a meant like your partner who you were with

1140
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: for for X amount of years Jason, you now if

1141
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: you had a type go into it, is your current

1142
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,479
Speaker 1: partner that type or what seered you away from the type?

1143
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: And how?

1144
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 5: I think I think that my wife is sort of

1145
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 5: in funny, she's upstairs. I don want to be too

1146
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 5: to come down here and shut this whole podcast.

1147
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: I think she's actually the combination of like the last

1148
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 2: two women that I dated.

1149
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy, Oh yeah, get kicked out plus more.

1150
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1151
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 2: I think that I think there was things that I

1152
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 2: liked about these two previous women, but for some reason

1153
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: when I was younger, like it wasn't enough Either it

1154
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: wasn't enough out of myself or it wasn't enough out

1155
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: of them, and then you know, with her, I saw

1156
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 2: one woman in her, I saw another woman in her,

1157
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 2: but then you know, she brought something that and more

1158
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 2: than yeah, and it was more and you know, and

1159
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 2: I like, I could probably say that I had a type,

1160
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: but to the point of, like what you said with

1161
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 2: the study, like you know, the thing that like ultimately

1162
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: emerges is something that you didn't even consider. And I

1163
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: think that's why sometimes people will tell you like, oh,

1164
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: you're going to marry her, and you're like, damn, I

1165
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: didn't even see.

1166
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 5: I didn't even know the thing that I was looking

1167
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 5: for because I always keep looking at my gonna lie.

1168
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 2: My man saw it and was like, are you done,

1169
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,479
Speaker 2: And then like five years later he was like, called

1170
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: it told you period.

1171
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: I mean one of my boyfriends right now is under

1172
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 1: six feet tall, and that's normally not my type.

1173
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 5: Sure, I.

1174
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 3: Think you got the you know when you go to

1175
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 3: doctor's office.

1176
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no deadass. I

1177
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 1: used to be like, I'm not dating anyone even under

1178
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: six three. And I think now getting older, you have

1179
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: energy that that actually supersedes everything that kind of you

1180
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: go in when you date that you think you want

1181
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: and then the energy if someone actually keeps you there

1182
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: longer then than their physical attributes, because then you also know,

1183
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: after a while them physical attributes are gonna start, you know,

1184
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: they're gonna start following off just a little bit. Now,

1185
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: I guess we can get into all the messiness of

1186
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: types real quick to close us out here, And I

1187
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,479
Speaker 1: do want to just say my thoughts on this because

1188
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: I think the Internet and their selective outrage about it

1189
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 1: is absolutely ridiculous. Miguel made a surprise announcement that welcomed

1190
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: to baby last year with his new girlfriend filmmaker and

1191
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: she's also like Bogue something with Bogue Margaret saying they

1192
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: began dating in twenty twenty three to let y'all know,

1193
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: he was with Nazanine Mandy. They split in twenty twenty one. However,

1194
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: they were together for like twenty years. They were together

1195
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: for a long time.

1196
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 5: Two thousand and five, since yeah, they were married in

1197
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 5: twenty so.

1198
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: They were together for okay, so about eighteen years. The

1199
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: Internet is having a fuss about the fact that he's

1200
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: celebrating this new family audition with a woman that's not

1201
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: the woman that he was just with for eighteen years. However,

1202
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: in a twenty nineteen podcast interview, Nazanine did say she

1203
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: wanted kids, just not right now as she was focusing

1204
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 1: on her career. I think that there's a timing around things,

1205
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: and I also she doesn't have kids even now, so

1206
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: this idea that she could even have them, whether it

1207
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: be through her own womb, adopting, surrogacy, whatever. I hate

1208
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: the conversation around this. Nigga had a baby with somebody

1209
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: that wasn't her. You don't know if they were trying

1210
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: at any point. You don't know how tumultuous their relationship

1211
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: was towards the end. You don't know her decision to

1212
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: not have a baby with this man. A lot of

1213
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: times the decision is on the woman, and y'all know

1214
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm pro choice all the way, So we don't really

1215
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: know the ins and outs of that relationship, whether or

1216
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: not she was ever pregnant by him. I hate, hate,

1217
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: hate the outrage of the internet whenever it comes to

1218
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: the conversation around what a woman is doing with their body?

1219
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 4: Can I add a thought real quickly?

1220
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 5: Yes?

1221
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 4: So what in my favorite series? Okay, y'all, if I

1222
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 4: can't say, you can always weep it out. I like

1223
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 4: Black Mirror, right, Okay, I love Black Mirror. And the

1224
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 4: reason I love Black Mirror is because every episode can

1225
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 4: be standalone. You don't need to watch the whole season

1226
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 4: to understand.

1227
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: Okay.

1228
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 4: I feel like in our lives, our chapters, we feel

1229
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 4: have to bleed into each other and they have to

1230
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 4: build off of each other, but they don't. This is

1231
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 4: a new chapter that stand alone, that has.

1232
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: Nothing nothing to do with relationship. Okay.

1233
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 4: And I think when we all as human beings start

1234
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 4: to look at our chapters that way, we can move

1235
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 4: on from things quicker. We can stop pocket watching or

1236
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 4: progress watching or baby watching our ex because we know

1237
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 4: that our current chapter don't have to have anything to

1238
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 4: do with our previous one, and our partners next chapter

1239
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 4: don't have to be an indictment on ours. This is

1240
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 4: the chapter we shared together. It was good while we

1241
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 4: had it. In this season, in our lives, we did

1242
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 4: the best we could.

1243
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: We're moving forward, moving forward, and hey, Jason, write to

1244
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: clip down. That's the clip that was one of the

1245
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: best analogies I've heard. But you're very true, very true.

1246
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: And I think I think the fact that who we

1247
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: are as individuals and how we ESSENTI end up growing.

1248
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: In terms of the relationships we have, we talk about

1249
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: being fully healed from previous relationships or bringing those traumas

1250
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: into new ones to where you're right, they don't have

1251
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: to bleed the way we assume them to bleed, and

1252
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: so I like that, and I think that that's exactly

1253
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: what this relationship shows. Their relationship, no matter how long

1254
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: they were together, didn't work out. They're also the blessing

1255
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: of not having to be tied to a person that

1256
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: it didn't work out with. I think that's another thing

1257
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: we don't consider when there's children in relationships made you

1258
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: now are bonded to that person for life. There are

1259
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: relationships that I have in my past that I'm so

1260
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: grateful we're able to end without the attachments of a child.

1261
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: And I think we have to allow that for the

1262
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: women that we know, for the single mothers we know,

1263
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: for how hard that is, it's celebratory and should be

1264
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: celebrated that we know this partnership between them did not

1265
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 1: last ended in a divorce or ended however it ended,

1266
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: and now she is able to go and start a

1267
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: life or a family with someone else without the attachment

1268
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: to someone that didn't work.

1269
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this. This would be my little small

1270
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 4: testimony time. Okay, Like a couple of months ago, I

1271
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 4: was talking to a friend and it was interesting because

1272
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 4: I used this analogy. I get my name Ace metaphor

1273
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 4: from Ace comes from paid them Full Character. That's one

1274
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 4: of my favorite movies.

1275
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: We talked about that in Black Cinema and one.

1276
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 4: Of my favorite scenes is when he's talking and he

1277
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 4: after he got shot, and he said, Man, I'm walking different. Man,

1278
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 4: I'm talking different, like I'm fucked up for real, right,

1279
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 4: And earlier this year, a couple of months ago, I

1280
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 4: was having that conversation with a person and I'm like, yo,

1281
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 4: like I'm fucked like, I'm walking different, like I look

1282
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 4: at people different, just based off of a lot of

1283
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 4: things that has been transpired in my life. And at

1284
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 4: that time I thought it was a negative thing. But

1285
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 4: then you start to love the way you now walk

1286
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 4: and the way you now talk and the way you think,

1287
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 4: and you realize whatever that fucked up thing that happened

1288
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 4: was necessary for your elevation. And I just question people

1289
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 4: who have went through divorces or breakups can be traumatic.

1290
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: It can be and PTC literally, it can make.

1291
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 4: You think different but see what we do is we

1292
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 4: don't embrace that as the vehicle of growth. Oftentimes we

1293
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 4: stagnated in our lives because we didn't have that catalyst

1294
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 4: to grow into what we were actually supposed to be

1295
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 4: in our next chapter in life.

1296
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: That's literally what my therapist said. My therapist was like

1297
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: when breakups in bad or when they're tumultuous, and when

1298
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: you're really hurt by it, you question whether any of

1299
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: it was real. You hate the person and you kind

1300
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: of lean into that hate. And it took a while,

1301
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: and within therapy it was like, but look at who

1302
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: you become through that relationship. Look at what you were

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Speaker 1: able to learn about yourself, what you were able to

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Speaker 1: learn about what you want in partnership moving in the future.

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Speaker 1: You might not have been able to learn any of

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Speaker 1: this without him, without this relationship. And so I think,

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Speaker 1: like you said, we kind of hate how we feel

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Speaker 1: because it hurts, it sucks. It's like, why do I

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Speaker 1: have to feel this way? Why did I have to

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Speaker 1: go through this? And it's not until you could reach

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Speaker 1: the other side that damn without this, I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: able to find my worth and value or voice in

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Speaker 1: a relationship. I wouldn't be able to know how to

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Speaker 1: move differently. But it takes people a lot of times

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Speaker 1: to be able to look at something as a lesson

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Speaker 1: instead of like, why was this done to me? A

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Speaker 1: lot of us like to say in a victim mindset

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Speaker 1: in terms of breakup, breakups, relationships, things that don't go

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Speaker 1: the way we plan it to go, instead of looking

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Speaker 1: at it as no, this was a lesson that I

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Speaker 1: can be happy happened.

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Speaker 4: Let me take it at the time it did. Let

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Speaker 4: me take it a step further, because while I everything

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Speaker 4: you said was facts, oftentimes it's not even your thoughts

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Speaker 4: and relation to them. It's what that experienced turned you

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Speaker 4: into that you start not liking like you didn't like

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Speaker 4: you like the fact that when you could trust everybody,

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Speaker 4: now when you walk in the room you look at

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Speaker 4: people different ye when somebody betrayed you, Like if you've

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Speaker 4: never experienced that the way you were able to so

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Speaker 4: freely just give And then now you can't do it

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Speaker 4: no more. Now you're vetting people more and you don't

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Speaker 4: like what this experience turn But that's why I said, Man,

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Speaker 4: maybe my leg don't work the same as it used to,

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Speaker 4: but the way I'm this limp is kind of cool.

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Speaker 4: You know what, Now I got a little swag. You

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01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like you, you start to really

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Speaker 4: embrace those changes and what I'm encouraging people. And that's

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Speaker 4: why the heartbreak thing is something a lot of people

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Speaker 4: can relate to. Is in your new season. Before you

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01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 4: can get other people to love reading your chapter, you

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01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 4: gotta love right. I want everybody to love the story

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Speaker 4: that they're now crafting, no matter how grim or if

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01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 4: you're starting over, you gotta start loving those words. Because

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01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 4: when you start loving those words, everybody sees the passion

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Speaker 4: you're bringing to your own life. And then this is

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Speaker 4: how you get other people to be intrigued, and this

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01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 4: is how you find your next partner, and this is

1349
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 4: how you have that baby maybe you always wanted or

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01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 4: just wanted right, this is now part of your new

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01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 4: chapter that you're now loving. And then here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: The one thing I learned about turnover in chapters, there's

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01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 4: always gonna be motherfuckers that missed the old man. I

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01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 4: wish the way you used to write, and why did

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01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 4: you have a baby with that other person? They want

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Speaker 4: to bring you back to.

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Speaker 1: The I was gonna say I love to point out

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Speaker 1: the hypocrisy in people. The way that people are so

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Speaker 1: upset with Miguel about celebrating the birth of this kids

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Speaker 1: is literally the opposite in the way they celebrated Cassie

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Speaker 1: having the family with Alex Fine and not having it

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Speaker 1: with What Diddy. So to see that women have literally

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Speaker 1: celebrated Cassie for having a life with her next partner.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why Miguel has looked at as the

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Speaker 1: villain for having this family with his new partner.

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Speaker 4: Y'all know.

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Speaker 1: I love to point out the hypocrisy and y'all and

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying there was a stark difference in how

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01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: y'all responded to both of those people publicly undiagnosed and

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Speaker 1: listen may be undiagnosed. Well, listen. At the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, I want you all to know, if y'all

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01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: been listening to me for a while, I got a question.

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01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: I no longer got a type. What's your question?

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Speaker 3: Faced?

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Speaker 1: Because this is gonna be final thoughts. You are a

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01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: brilliant dude, Anie Ainty, not even on the mic marketing.

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01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: This man is a genius.

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Speaker 6: Gene can say that you probably haven't heard right but

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01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 6: the way you speaking Gospeling here today, you don't sound

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01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 6: like you're trying to be outside too long.

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Speaker 4: He remember how we talked about best practices.

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Speaker 1: He'd share best practices. It don't mean he practiced.

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Speaker 4: Honestly. Honestly, I'll be honest with you. The last thing

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Speaker 4: I've been thinking about lately is dating multiple women and

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01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 4: being and doing that thing, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 4: I got this tour coming up, I gotta I got

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Speaker 4: really focused on the more important things, and there's there's

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Speaker 4: always gonna be a time, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But it's not like I'm closed off to it, like

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Speaker 4: I you know, I just wanted to take some time

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Speaker 4: for me. I gave a relationship seven years of my life.

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Speaker 4: I did a I call it a be like I'm

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Speaker 4: out now. And what's more exciting about that isn't me

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Speaker 4: spreading myself amongst other women. It's me being able to

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Speaker 4: be intentional about what I wanted to do. I moved

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Speaker 4: to a city, a different city, I didn't have to

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Speaker 4: consult with people. I'm making choices for myself and then

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Speaker 4: relearning that. And see, I love that part. And I'm

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Speaker 4: telling you I love every part of this game, this

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01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 4: game called life, yo, it's always peaks and valleys and shit,

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01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 4: you got a love very part of it. And this

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01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 4: ship would be born as fuck if all you did

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01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 4: was win. I'm telling you, everybody just want to win.

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01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 4: But then if you only won, would you even like

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Speaker 4: the game?

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Speaker 1: Would you even like would it be fun? We get

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Speaker 1: a little start over? Yes, well, a thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining me. You dropped nothing but Gym's here.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. And if you guys are want to

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Speaker 1: see this as a duo, they'll be. We'll be joined

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Speaker 1: by four other people. It won't be an orgy on stage,

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Speaker 1: but we will be on the stage, y'all. I'll be

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Speaker 1: joining Tonight's conversation November I believe six or eighth in

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Speaker 1: New York City, and then I'll be uh maybe the

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Speaker 1: next week after in Atlanta. You know what, Let me

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Speaker 1: get them dates. I actually got the fly. Let me

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Speaker 1: let me not just throw it out.

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Speaker 4: November eighth, New York and then.

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Speaker 1: It's eleven, oh, the twenty second, So November eighth, New York,

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Speaker 1: November twenty second in Atlanta. I'll be joining a lot

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Speaker 1: of your faves on the internet. And on the stage

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Speaker 1: with tonight's conversations. Y'all make sure y'all get them tickets.

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Speaker 1: Come pull up on us if you haven't yet either,

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Speaker 1: speaking to what A said. All of these chapters end

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Speaker 1: with periods, but they are still ongoing chapters because I'm

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Speaker 1: still learning about literally everything I put in this book

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Speaker 1: about myself, about how I value myself in relationships and

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Speaker 1: with myself. So no holds bar to do a manifesto,

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Speaker 1: sexual exploration and power. It is a New York Times bestseller. Baby,

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Speaker 1: That's right, baby, I'm y'all. Y'all just go out to

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Speaker 1: hear me everywhere, okay, And as always, this is another

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Speaker 1: episode of Selective Ignorance, where curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and

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