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Speaker 1: Here's here's a little theater thing I want to do

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Speaker 1: here with Joe's help. It's gonna be called hospital management theater. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be the person that walks in and

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Speaker 1: presents a problem, and Joe is going to be part

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Speaker 1: of hospital management. Come up with a solution. All Right,

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Speaker 1: I got it. Somebody's stealing drugs and we need to

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Speaker 1: find out who they are. What could we do to

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Speaker 1: catch the person who's going into these waiting these rooms

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Speaker 1: and stealing drugs in our hospital? Security cameras are the answer.

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Speaker 1: We need to put security cameras in every room, in

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Speaker 1: every every every examination room. Yes, we'll put motion activated

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Speaker 1: cameras so that anytime anybody gets undressed or does anything

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Speaker 1: in that room, we catch it on videotape. Well, that

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Speaker 1: may be a bit of exaggeration, but only a bit.

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Speaker 1: Alison Warden joins us. Allison is a partner at the

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Speaker 1: go Miss law firm that is suing hospital chain Well

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Speaker 1: Sharpe gross My Hospital in Lamas, California, specifically UM for

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Speaker 1: their motion activated cameras set up in various spots. Allison, welcome,

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Speaker 1: how are you, good morning? I'm well, thank you? So

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Speaker 1: what indeed, it was drug theft that spurred the installation

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Speaker 1: of the cameras. Correct um, that's what yes, the sharpest

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Speaker 1: telling us. And where did they put those cameras? They

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Speaker 1: put them on the anesthesia carts in three operating rooms

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Speaker 1: in the Women's Center in Sharpe gross My Hospital. So wow,

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Speaker 1: in the Women's center in particular. Yes, So basically these

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Speaker 1: three operating rooms were used only for um women procedures,

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Speaker 1: anything ranging from unfortunately a DNC when a woman loses

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Speaker 1: a child, to um tubal ligations and emergency c sections.

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Speaker 1: So all kinds of surgical procedures with women conducted on

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Speaker 1: women took place in these three operating rooms where they

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Speaker 1: hid the cameras. What is that where the drugs were

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Speaker 1: disappearing from. I'm I'm trying to establish whether this was

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Speaker 1: just ill advised, stupid, or or if it was perverse.

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Speaker 1: There were reports that there were drugs missing um from

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Speaker 1: the annesthesia carts in those three operating rooms. And so

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Speaker 1: instead of taking less invasive means, perhaps like locking the carts, uh,

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Speaker 1: they went ahead and installed these cameras um which would

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Speaker 1: not be visible to anybody. Basically, staff, doctors, certainly the

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Speaker 1: patient were unaware. So the patients didn't know, which has

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Speaker 1: got to be some sort of HIPO violation. The doctors

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Speaker 1: didn't know, and then who had access to the videos? Well,

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Speaker 1: that's one of the major problems, and hopefully throughout this

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Speaker 1: litigation we'll get to answers that we have been unable

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Speaker 1: to get thus far. Um Sharpe says that their security

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Speaker 1: UM were the ones that were viewing the cameras UM

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Speaker 1: and trying to wash to see if so take their

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Speaker 1: one doctor was taking the drugs. However, they have not

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Speaker 1: been able to provide any answers or assurances as to

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Speaker 1: who within SHARP organization or outside of Sharp organization did

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Speaker 1: have access. So your so your hospital mall cops have

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Speaker 1: access to the most you know, private of of of

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Speaker 1: procedures being done on you and seeing you and everything

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Speaker 1: like that. That that makes pretty good sense. Yis I

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Speaker 1: see that you have eighty one women named as plaintiffs

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Speaker 1: thus far. It's quite a number we do, and potentially so.

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Speaker 1: The cameras were installed in July of two thousand twelve

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Speaker 1: and they were not turned off until June of two

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Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, so they were running UM during that basically

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Speaker 1: eight month time period. During that time period, roughly eighteen

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Speaker 1: hundred and six procedures were conducted in cooperating rooms. So

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Speaker 1: they are did they ever catch the person that was

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Speaker 1: stealing proffile? Did that ever happen? Well, you know, the

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Speaker 1: doctor that they had UM identified is taking the drugs

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Speaker 1: from the cart UM was brought up or was investigated

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Speaker 1: by the medical board and he was actually cleared of

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Speaker 1: taking those drugs related to UM. The reason that Sharpe

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Speaker 1: said that they install the cameras. Okay, all right, well

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Speaker 1: that's that's wild. So it could be hundreds of plaintiffs eventually,

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Speaker 1: and what are you hoping for? Potentially it could be

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Speaker 1: over eight pointiffs. UM. There was a class action that

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Speaker 1: was initially filed and now it's been transition due to

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Speaker 1: a mass tort and so the case has been UM

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Speaker 1: in litigation and we're trying we've been trying to get

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Speaker 1: the identities of all the women that were victimized during

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Speaker 1: that time period. And so as plaintiffs contact information, their

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Speaker 1: identities become available and they decided they want to join

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Speaker 1: in and participate UM in the lawsuit, and we will

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Speaker 1: continue to add plaintiffs. I can't decide did we skip

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Speaker 1: over this or is it obvious. Did the cameras consistently

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Speaker 1: just the operating Well, it says here if i'm you know,

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Speaker 1: it's your lawsuit, but you've held back on this, so

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say it. Additionally, the lawsuit alleges the

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Speaker 1: women were recorded as they undressed at times defendants patients,

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Speaker 1: the defendant's patients had their most sensitive genital areas visible. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: there's a wide I'm just curious and I'm not criticizing,

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Speaker 1: but I would think you'd want to not sensationalize, go beyond,

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Speaker 1: but I would think you'd want to put in all

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Speaker 1: the worst stuff there is. And you you kind of

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Speaker 1: you kind of feel like to me like you're holding back. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: is there a reason for that as just as a lawyer,

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Speaker 1: it's a legal strategy. Absolutely, No, Well there are because

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Speaker 1: I stated earlier that there was a class action that

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Speaker 1: was found in May two six. Some documents have been

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Speaker 1: ordered to be protected by a protective order, so some

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Speaker 1: information has not been released to the public, and so

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Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to speak about certain information at this time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So lawyers is, you know, never want to hold back

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Speaker 1: on their best information. But well, that's why I wondered

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Speaker 1: why you were saving there. They were videotaping them naked

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Speaker 1: with their genitals exposed, and holding that back from this discussion.

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Speaker 1: It's a little redundant, just so yeah, you know, it

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Speaker 1: kind of goes, it goes above and beyond that. Actually, um, well,

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Speaker 1: then hit us with them. It's not just you know,

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Speaker 1: the women being exposed. Some they walk into the room,

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Speaker 1: some of them are undressing right there, getting on the gurneys,

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Speaker 1: are already wheeled in. Um. But these are women that

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Speaker 1: range from the some of the happiest times in their life,

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Speaker 1: the scariest times in their life, and the worst times

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Speaker 1: in their life. You have women that lost their baby

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Speaker 1: in that room that did never want to you know,

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Speaker 1: they'll remember it forever, but certainly now it's been memorialized,

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Speaker 1: and their nervous as to who else has had access

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Speaker 1: to this very intimate and horrifying all include this. This

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Speaker 1: is what The Hill is reporting that the lawsuit says

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Speaker 1: several hospital staff members, including non un medical personnel, were

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Speaker 1: able to access the recordings through desktop computers. Additionally, the

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Speaker 1: lawsuit alleges of hospitals did not keep track of who

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Speaker 1: could access the recordings, why or when that seems like

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Speaker 1: a big deal. She got naked women and they're not

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Speaker 1: sure who could access it then how often they did? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: And who has copies right now? And whether or not

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Speaker 1: this is going to end up on the internet. Of

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Speaker 1: course it will, you know how the internet works. Yikes.

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Speaker 1: Alison Warden, partner at the Gomez Law firm. Allison, thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us. We appreciate it, and let's stay in touch.

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Speaker 1: Is this progresses absolutely? Thanks for having me alright, our pleasure.

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Speaker 1: She might have legal reasons I don't understand, but I

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Speaker 1: just thought it was interesting. She was leaving out some

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Speaker 1: of the juiciest stuff from the right the uh well yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there are some stuff that hasn't been released, so okay,

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Speaker 1: well okay, but I didn't want that to not get

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Speaker 1: in the story because it's pretty good. I think you

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Speaker 1: should go whole hog. We are not restrained by anything,

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Speaker 1: including good taste. No, but if you had video of

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Speaker 1: women getting undressed and crawling up onto the table, as

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Speaker 1: as women have told me, that's like about the most

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable thing that happens to you emotionally before the physically

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable stuff happens. Um getting undressed in climbing up there

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Speaker 1: on that table. There's video of that and just kind

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Speaker 1: of randos get to access it there at the hospital

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Speaker 1: and they're not bloody in security the hospital mall cop

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Speaker 1: as you put it so charmingly. Yeah, I just saw

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Speaker 1: her go down there. Get me that tape later, Oh,

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Speaker 1: no problem. You know that happened, yes, garon freaking tee it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and they got a copy of it. It's just it's

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Speaker 1: just human nature. Any who TWI it for the prop

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Speaker 1: offal the buzz is amazing. Was somebody using it you

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Speaker 1: suppose are selling it? Does a doctor hooked on it?

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Speaker 1: Could have been either. Both happened fairly comm