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Speaker 3: You gotta get you early, though, Those spots fill up quick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I do, so, I'm not worried about that. I do,

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Speaker 4: says I haven't engaged since Andy left, but I haven't

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Speaker 3: Should I take that personally, I'm causing disengagement.

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Speaker 5: But she was a little sweet on it, and I

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Speaker 5: do think that he identified him as the successor he did.

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Speaker 5: I need to know what.

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Speaker 6: Bill was in his seventies.

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Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 4: A lot of emailers preaching patients, which I think is

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Speaker 4: great because, yeah, it's about Matt. I thought we were

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Speaker 4: talking about one of the first times we went was

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Speaker 4: with Mike Reese and he ate so much he threw

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Speaker 4: up in the bathroom. It was like a Roman orgy.

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Speaker 4: So we got a hurry, Paul.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday. Here

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Speaker 4: at Jillette Stadium and uh boy, are we just getting

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Speaker 4: ready for the Dolphins or are we going to talk

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Speaker 4: about this game in San Francisco or Santa Clara to

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Speaker 4: be exact, because we're going in the wrong direction, folks.

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Speaker 5: Well, I would just say that Mike and I had

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Speaker 5: a chance to sort of clear our throats, and they

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Speaker 5: are all our grievances on San Francisco. We haven't heard

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Speaker 5: from Fred and Evan, So yeah, if you guys have

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Speaker 5: some something to say, I think Mike and I would

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Speaker 9: And I'd say I grinded, grinded the film yesterday and

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Speaker 9: I've got some I've got some takes.

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Speaker 10: Okay, Well, I love when Mike grinds the film too, because.

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Speaker 5: I'm don't care for it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not.

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Speaker 6: I'm on this island by myself.

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Speaker 4: I enjoy it. I just grind my teeth when I say,

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Speaker 4: but no, I mean first half offense couldn't do anything.

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Speaker 4: I think second half there was some opportunities, one that

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Speaker 4: they took advantage of after the fumble. But this offense

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Speaker 4: is anemik It's how they ended the season last year

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Speaker 4: and this is where we are now. The question I

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Speaker 4: have for people, because I've heard a lot of people

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Speaker 4: they're not giving me any hope. They're not What was

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Speaker 4: the expectation of hope that you had going into the season,

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Speaker 4: because all I heard was, and I'm talking about the spring,

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Speaker 4: going into the summer, this is a four to six

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Speaker 4: win team, and that was before they lost Barmore and

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Speaker 4: jude On and Bentley and now probably Dugar. What are

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Speaker 4: you expecting? This is kind of what I expected from

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Speaker 4: made to play. That's that's it.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I just I don't think they look like

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Speaker 9: Against San Francisco. That that was I think where the

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Speaker 9: for me, what was frustrating is but yeah, I mean

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Speaker 9: it was. It was pretty bad. I'm just gonna get

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Speaker 9: right into it. I just I just think Jacoby Brissette

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Speaker 9: And I have some hope now like that I didn't

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Speaker 9: I'm just seeing too much of Jacoby Brissett, not seeing

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Speaker 9: the field, holding the ball too much, coming late to things.

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Speaker 9: And where I'm starting to evolve over the last twenty

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Speaker 9: be time. Like if this kind of continues, I'm starting

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Speaker 9: where No, I agree with the kid in there because

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Speaker 9: I think he'll I think he can make more plays

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Speaker 4: I think he should play this week, he's not going

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Speaker 4: to according to Gerrod Meo. And and here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's a bunch of other guys on this

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Speaker 4: and they're not being allowed to develop right now because

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Speaker 4: But we knew that going in this should be no

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Speaker 4: surprise to anyone. The only thing that I think right now,

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm now biting at the chomping at the bitch, champing, chomping.

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Speaker 4: Think it's Champa Champaign Champagne Chandler Jones's. That's That's all

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Speaker 4: I'm waiting for, because right now you mentioned Jalen Polk

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Speaker 4: an NFL offense. In my opinion, Well, and so that

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Speaker 4: that's what's bothering me right now. It's not the record.

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Speaker 4: It's not that they, you know, got made to look

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if I would agree with this.

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Speaker 3: They're not running an NFL offense.

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Speaker 9: I mean, they certainly are not getting NFL level production

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Speaker 9: I still see value in what I'm seeing from Polk

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Speaker 9: maybe they're not getting the ball thrown to them out

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Speaker 9: there and making enough catches. But you know when you

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Speaker 9: see the frustration, I mean, you see Pop Douglas on

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Speaker 9: So I just well, for me, I was a little

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Speaker 4: About getting rewarded for that effort. But that's not happening,

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Speaker 4: and it's.

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Speaker 9: Exciting, Fred, That's what's exciting. You got Drake May, You're

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Speaker 9: sitting on the piece that can beat that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know, And so let's get on with I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting, I'm getting I'm getting over the Jacoby at all.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I asked just for you guys.

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Speaker 4: Thoughts. Yeah, Westen let's get on with the Drake may experiment.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I've been on this side of the street

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Speaker 10: last week. Uh, Jacoby Brissett's is a problem with this

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Speaker 10: offense right now. He doesn't make any plays, missus throws,

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Speaker 10: holds the ball missing reads like if you're doing things

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Speaker 10: that I could sit here and say, well, if you

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Speaker 10: were a rookie quarterback, I would be like, all right,

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Speaker 10: I get it. I get you're not going to dominate

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Speaker 10: a rookie quarterback. He's been in the league for nine years. Like,

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Speaker 10: we're not talking about may We're talking about the veteran

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Speaker 10: But I just think there's three things to me that

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Speaker 10: the Patriots should be focusing on moving forward. And if

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Speaker 10: I'm girod Mayo, I'm at the point now where I'm

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Speaker 10: starting to point some fingers, not publicly, but.

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Speaker 5: He's done it publicly.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I wouldn't do that, but just I would start

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Speaker 10: not necessarily pointing fingers. Maybe that's not the right way

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Speaker 10: of putting it, but you know, putting some people's backs

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Speaker 10: against the walls inside the building a little bit, and

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Speaker 10: not just the players like at the highest levels.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 10: I go to Elliott Wolf's office and I would say,

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Speaker 10: care like you, it's it's your personnel department. I'll allow

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Speaker 10: But I want one of those guys that practice on Wednesday.

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Speaker 6: Figure it out.

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Speaker 10: I would go to Alex Van Pelt's office and I

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Speaker 10: would say, Drake May is playing Figure it out. You

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Speaker 10: know if you think that according to him, yeah, if

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Speaker 10: whole playbook. If you think that, you know, he there's

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Speaker 10: And I would say to DeMarcus Covington, what the heck

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Speaker 10: scrap it and we need to start over. They're thirty

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Speaker 10: first in the league right now on third down defense,

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Speaker 6: They can't get off the field.

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Speaker 10: So whatever they're doing schematically, which we can get into

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Speaker 10: what I see on down, they need to throw in

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Speaker 4: One thing I will say in the in the defense's

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Speaker 4: it was like, why can't they contain the quarterback? And

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Speaker 4: and they didn't. But one of the things that Perdy

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Speaker 4: you know it's gonna be hard to contain him. Now,

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Speaker 4: he should he should be made to pay for that.

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Speaker 4: But he had no problem just turning and just running

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Speaker 4: like whether it's side to side or he hadn't he

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Speaker 4: that's hard for any team to contain.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, I mean right out of the gate.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I just another big picture thought I have

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Speaker 9: is that I think, you know, Kem White is a

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Speaker 9: him just being over aggressive, and I think it's hard

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Speaker 9: the edge now of you know that must rush, which

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Speaker 9: I mean guys talk about it all the time, how

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Speaker 5: But I would just say, you know, from from ten

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Speaker 5: you do need a left tackle, which every one of

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Speaker 5: of the most unfair things that I've seen in all

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Speaker 5: Demontrat Jacobs on Sunday. Like, you put that kid in

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Speaker 5: The kid competed the whole game, well, he competed for

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Speaker 4: And it's so funny because you know, in the first quarter,

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Speaker 4: They just haven't done it yet. And sure enough, as

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I just to go back to the quarterback contain issue.

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Speaker 5: It's that way.

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Speaker 10: They're not getting the players to buy in to what

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Speaker 10: But I would also say schematically that I don't really

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Speaker 10: So like you can't run an aggressive pass rush up

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Speaker 10: there's no there's nobody closing the pocket, there's no spy,

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Speaker 10: there's nobody at the second level of the defense whatsoever.

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Speaker 10: He sees the stunt coming, he just steps through the

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Speaker 10: makes a throw. You know, they they've played a ton

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Speaker 10: of split safety coverage. They play a ton of Cover

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Speaker 5: There's no spy, there's.

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Speaker 10: No robber, there's no lowhul help, there's nobody at the

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Speaker 10: in the past with Bill, they would run a lot

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Speaker 10: would use a mac Wilson or somebody along those lines

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Speaker 5: So they would.

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Speaker 10: Allow judon are more uce. They would allow those guys

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Speaker 10: I just really feel like they schematically on third down

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Speaker 10: to some of these guys because they're not They're asking

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Speaker 10: almost can't really blame him because he he's the only

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Speaker 9: What was jarring to me was like when the few

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Speaker 9: only one who gets any kind of disruption. I agree

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Speaker 9: with you know everything you're saying, And I think there

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Speaker 9: running backwards, like you said, Fred, he circles back into

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Speaker 5: been pretty tough on TV. We always say that. But

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Speaker 5: in the first half, the coverage must have been pretty good.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what happened in the second half. Maybe

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Speaker 5: But I mean there were I agree with Mike. I

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Speaker 4: In the running around.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I think it's it wasn't that there wasn't pressure.

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Speaker 10: It's just the type of pressure is not the good

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Speaker 10: kind of pressure. They were, you know, chasing them around

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Speaker 5: Not like he was avoiding sacks. He was just moving

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Speaker 4: No, but he wasn't just sitting in a pocket kind

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Speaker 4: of no, he was.

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Speaker 5: He was all over that.

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Speaker 9: I kind of agree with Paul, just like because even

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Speaker 9: like that's a pressure.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying it was good pressure, you know, but

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Speaker 5: No, because you can't. You gotta wait for guys to uncover. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: No, No, I know, there wasn't.

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Speaker 5: There were a couple of times where they had pressure.

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Speaker 6: We the third down play.

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Speaker 10: The third down play to Kittle is great coverage down

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Speaker 10: he just gets outside the pocket. And then at that point,

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Speaker 4: You mentioned last year when they had jude On, and

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Speaker 4: is no one knew what he really could do because

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Speaker 4: he wasn't a pass rusher in college. He didn't have

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Speaker 4: I hate to say it, but for a lot of people,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I guess I just I hope that Keon White is

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Speaker 9: I mean, the Uce thing didn't get a big contract,

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Speaker 9: But you know, like I've you guys know, I've been

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Speaker 4: Not that guy, like you know, like like we we

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Speaker 5: Right, I mean that this is gonna be.

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Speaker 10: it right. But you have to have somebody whose responsibility,

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Speaker 10: you're the one chasing him out of the pocket. It

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Speaker 10: tell him just you're you have to contain, then they're

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Speaker 10: just like they would have allowed bar More Juda, and

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Speaker 5: And they don't have anybody doing that right now.

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Speaker 10: And a lot of it, to me, is because they're

437
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 10: playing with those two deep safeties and so there's nobody

438
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Speaker 10: near the line of scrimmage. Like if they were playing

439
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 10: you know, Cover one like they would in the past

440
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 10: with Belichick, then they would have a robber, they'd have

441
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Speaker 10: a spy or somebody like that that would be able

442
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 10: to track down the quarterback. Now, Kyle Duggar is coming

443
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 10: from like fifteen yards off the ball to try to

444
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Speaker 10: close down the quarterback on the Kittle play, and it's

445
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 10: just too long. It's it takes too long to happen.

446
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 10: So it's defensively that that's number one to me. But

447
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 10: that's the tip of the Iceberg and from a coaching standpoint,

448
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 10: like I thought they got thoroughly out coached. And Kyle

449
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Speaker 10: Shannan is a really really good I mean, I don't

450
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Speaker 10: have to tell you that from my opinion.

451
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Speaker 4: But we know your affinity for I think your.

452
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Speaker 5: Boy kept the Patriots in the game for a half.

453
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Speaker 5: I think it was the second half. No, in the

454
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Speaker 5: first half. I think there was some really curious decisions

455
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Speaker 5: the end that first half. I think he completely handed

456
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Speaker 5: the Patriots three points. You get backed up Barrenger with

457
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Speaker 5: another terrific punt toward the end of the half. They're

458
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Speaker 5: down around their ten yard line. I mean, you have

459
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Speaker 5: a twenty to nothing lead. Just run the ball three

460
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Speaker 5: times and go to the half. He throws it on

461
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Speaker 5: first down, they bought a handoff on second down. They

462
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Speaker 5: lose eight yards, third and eighteen. He's throwing it. You know,

463
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 5: you get a short punt that Patriots take over at

464
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Speaker 5: the forty yard That was like three points that just

465
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Speaker 5: got handed.

466
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Speaker 4: I think because he wanted a double dip so bad.

467
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Speaker 5: I just think it was kind of a lack of

468
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Speaker 5: respect for the game, like, you know, like they didn't

469
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Speaker 5: respect the opponent enough to say like, yeah, we should

470
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Speaker 5: probably just be content with a twenty point lead here,

471
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Speaker 5: and still it still didn't matter because they were so

472
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Speaker 5: much better. You know, like we talk about all the

473
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Speaker 5: things that we knew heading into the season. Everybody knew

474
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Speaker 5: that game was gonna be kind of like the way

475
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Speaker 5: the game was, you know, like when we talked about

476
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Speaker 5: it back in July, you know that's gonna be that's

477
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 5: gonna be a tough, tough order. You know, both teams

478
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 5: are really banged up going into the game. Patriots get

479
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 5: a lot more injuries during the game. Andrews and and

480
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 5: Douger those are those are two big injuries, right, you know,

481
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 5: I think Andrews is a really really big one. I've

482
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Speaker 5: been one thousand percent with Evan play May play May

483
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Speaker 5: play May. With Andrews out, I kind of like, maybe

484
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Speaker 5: I can wait another week, you know, maybe I can

485
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Speaker 5: wait another week.

486
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Speaker 10: I'm not still you know, well, but I'm not super

487
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Speaker 10: worried about it, but.

488
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Speaker 5: I'm okay like with Andrews out, like, you know.

489
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Speaker 4: Let's give the other center a game exactly, get you.

490
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Speaker 5: Know, give give Leverett a chance to work with May

491
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 5: a little bit, and you know, maybe you feel a

492
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 5: little bit better about his situation is the best. Now,

493
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Speaker 5: I thought Leverett held up okay on some you know,

494
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Speaker 5: certainly didn't have any of those snap issues that we

495
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Speaker 5: had all summer. Yeah, so you know, maybe he's a

496
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Speaker 5: little bit more comfortable now when you go into the

497
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Speaker 5: game plan. He's making all those Jake.

498
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Speaker 4: Andrews, I know he's out for the season.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Another grape I have with is like

500
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 9: it just takes a long time to get there and

501
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 9: it's not great ball placement. And I think some of

502
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,479
Speaker 9: the some of the completions he had could have been

503
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 9: better gains, you know, if it's out quicker, if it

504
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 9: gets there quicker, if it's in the right spot, rather

505
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 9: than turning the guy upfield. I don't think there's one

506
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 9: one of those polp catches. But now that was that

507
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 9: was just kind of my my big takeaway of going back,

508
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 9: and I'm like, you know, and I hate being that

509
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 9: there's guys open, but his lack of pocket presence and

510
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 9: really understanding, you know, and this is one thing I'm

511
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 9: saying it might be worse with May, Like I'm not

512
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 9: gonna sit here and put May in because his pocket

513
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 9: you know, awareness is going to be better than presettes,

514
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Speaker 9: But I just I think there were times and maybe

515
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 9: it's like we talked about Paul on the postgame show,

516
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 9: where he's taken so many hits, he's getting sped up

517
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Speaker 9: because there's times there's a pocket there, there's a pocket

518
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 9: to set up and load a quick throw and he

519
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 9: kind of quickly tucks it and you know, and now

520
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 9: we're really lay in the down and he can't make

521
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 9: things happen, so or it's just it's kind of falling

522
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Speaker 9: apart a little bit. I don't want to put it

523
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Speaker 9: all on per set because I think some of it

524
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 9: is just a ton of issue. But at the same time,

525
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Speaker 9: it's when he starts turning the ball over and not

526
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 9: making plays that are there, that's when I say it's maytime.

527
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Speaker 5: And at the point that we're making on the post

528
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 5: game guys, I know you guys had the lung flight home,

529
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Speaker 5: but just I'm not overly surprised that the turnovers are

530
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 5: starting to come because of the wear and tear. Just

531
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Speaker 5: when you get battered every game, it's hard to continue

532
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Speaker 5: to say, Okay, that's all right, I'm just not going

533
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 5: to make At some point, you're like, I'm going to

534
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 5: get rid of this one or I'm going to try

535
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 5: to like get out of the pocket. I'm gonna get

536
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get stripped. You know you fumbled three times

537
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 5: on Sunday. Yeah, they only lost one of them. But

538
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Speaker 5: I'm not overly surprised that some of those quote unquote

539
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 5: turnover worthy plays are starting to happen because of the

540
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Speaker 5: amount of pressure that he's been under.

541
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Speaker 4: Gene and Otawa said, just heard Fred browbeat fans because

542
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Speaker 4: according to Fred, this is a two to four win team.

543
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Speaker 4: I said four to six.

544
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Speaker 5: He said six.

545
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Speaker 4: Actually, I would agree if this was the first year

546
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Speaker 4: of a rebuilt. Is this not the fourth year of rebuilding?

547
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Speaker 4: The team is stuck in mud spinning its tires for

548
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 4: four years. I think fans should ex more from their team,

549
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 4: and having low expectations like Fred does simply dooms us

550
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 4: to irrelevance.

551
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 10: Well, just the first year for Elliott Wolf and Drodden. Yeah,

552
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 10: they tried to rebuild with Bill. He failed. He got

553
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 10: fired for it.

554
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 5: Like I don't know.

555
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm being realistic and I'm trying to be fair too.

556
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 4: I mean, Jean's right, it's been four years of this meeting,

557
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 4: well not even meeting.

558
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 5: If you want to count. Yeah, if we're going post Brady,

559
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 5: it's the year post Brady.

560
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 4: But to be fair with this regime, it's the first year.

561
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Speaker 4: So my expectation going the season was not that they

562
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Speaker 4: were going to make the playoffs or even contend for

563
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Speaker 4: the playoffs.

564
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Speaker 5: Your point about the opener is interesting, like, and I

565
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 5: think it looked and I'm not saying they played a

566
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 5: great game, but it looked like sort of hey, yeah,

567
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 5: like it was buttoned down, you know, like the very

568
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 5: few penalties, very few reckless plays, good sound defense. To

569
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Speaker 5: Evan's point, the third down defense was outstanding, and I

570
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 5: think people were like, okay, night, So I can see

571
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 5: where we're going. We might not win a lot of

572
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 5: games because it's going to be hard to win games

573
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 5: just running the ball and not scoring. But now you've

574
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 5: sort of seen some sloppiness come in addition to not

575
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 5: being good enough, you know, and you know, I think

576
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 5: it started sort of with some of the coaching on

577
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 5: the sideline the Seattle game, the end of the half

578
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 5: was not handled well, given away points, given away a

579
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Speaker 5: free possession at the end of the half, and certainly,

580
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Speaker 5: you know, the turnovers have started to come the last

581
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 5: couple of games and you know, in opportune penalties. I mean,

582
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 5: there was there were some things that I thought, you know,

583
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 5: we're good. I thought there was some at least some

584
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 5: signs of creativity. You know. I didn't agree with everything

585
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 5: they did, but I mean I loved that third down

586
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 5: play in the second half where they throw the lateral

587
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 5: the third and long. I love that play. I did

588
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 5: to it unless it, I mean everybody has it now,

589
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 5: like you know, the Lions did it to beat to

590
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 5: knock the Packers out of the playoffs like two years ago.

591
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Speaker 4: But I love that Lions.

592
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I just love the play, you know. Well,

593
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean it wasn't necessarily overly creative, but

594
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 5: I loved the touchdown on the on the fourth down,

595
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 5: Like that was a nice play.

596
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 7: Ye.

597
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 5: I mean, everybody knew what they were going to do,

598
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 5: but like it's like it was a good play. Well

599
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 5: you know, you know, and they did it. And yeah,

600
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 5: there was a lot of plays that I didn't I

601
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 5: didn't love running the ball in the middle of the

602
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 5: line on the on the previous fourth down, but I

603
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 5: just think they're so limited what their options are.

604
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, this is definite, by the way,

605
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 4: I was listening to the broadcast while I was watching live,

606
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 4: and you know Olsen had the play by play. Yeah,

607
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: he does it. Like listening to him again compared to

608
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 4: what break Brady should listen to Olsen because that's how.

609
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 3: You know that's the guy you got fire for.

610
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's how you analyze the game. I don't

611
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 4: need to know who and what. That's what the play

612
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: by play guy just told me. I need you to

613
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 4: tell me how and why, And that's what Olson's telling me.

614
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 5: Did you guys hear this the touchdown to Kittle when

615
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 5: he broke down? When Greg Olsen broke down the touchdown

616
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 5: to Kittle and talked about Marcus Jones sort of jumping

617
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 5: underneath because del Pettis, I believe, was supposed to trail

618
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 5: Debo on the crosser and didn't, leaving him all by himself,

619
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Speaker 5: and Marcus Jones took like one false step sort of

620
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 5: to go, which got Kittle open, and like, you look

621
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Speaker 5: at it immediately, well it looks like Marcus Jones is

622
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 5: responsible for Kittle when he gets beat. But then you

623
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 5: see why he got beat, and you're like, oh, now,

624
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 5: I think a guy like Bill Belichick would certainly say,

625
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 5: do your job. You can't worry about the other guy

626
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 5: who didn't do his because you worrying about that caused

627
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 5: your guy to get open too. So I mean, I'm

628
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 5: not necessarily taking Marcus Jones off the hook, but I

629
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 5: thought that was really good analysis. And I you know,

630
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 5: when you just watch it on TV, like, you don't

631
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 5: pick that up. But when they showed that replay and

632
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 5: he explained it like that, it was like, I can

633
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 5: totally see what he's talking about. That fotall. No, no,

634
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about the actual touchdown was a great

635
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 5: catch by Kittle because it was a terrible throw by Purdy.

636
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 5: He was wide open. All you had to do was

637
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 5: throw it to the back corner. And there has been

638
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 5: nothing that goes to your point, those little guy who

639
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 5: was late and short to the inside. But I think

640
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 5: it would be easy to say, how do they lose

641
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 5: track of Kittle back there? Well, that's that's how. And

642
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 5: again I'm not saying that that means that Marcus Jones

643
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 5: was right to like jump underneath for a split second

644
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 5: to Deebo when it's not his guy. But I thought

645
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 5: Greg Olsen explained it in very simple terms for idiots

646
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 5: like me to say, oh, well, I didn't I didn't

647
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 5: think of it. That.

648
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Speaker 4: That's the thing. Sometimes a play like that will happen

649
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,239
Speaker 4: on the blog, somebody will say, Fred, what happened on

650
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 4: that play? I have no idea.

651
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 5: I don't know.

652
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 4: I don't know why that guy was wide open.

653
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 5: I mean, you don't have enough room on the blog though,

654
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 5: Favan's answers, right, Yeah.

655
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 6: I just.

656
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 10: I just feel like the biggest thing to me with

657
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 10: what's going on, going back to the week one thing

658
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 10: that you said, Fred, they've put all this stuff on tape,

659
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 10: and now the league that these opponents that they're playing

660
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 10: are adjusting to what they were doing, and right now

661
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 10: the Patriots coaching staff has not adjusted back like there's

662
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 10: been no counter to the counter.

663
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 4: Well, that's it. Do they have a counter?

664
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 6: Well, I offensively, I'd probably say no.

665
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 10: You know, right now they're seeing the highest rate in

666
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 10: the league of single high coverage on offense because you

667
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 10: don't have to worry about the outside receivers, you don't

668
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 10: have to worry about the downfield passing game. So all

669
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 10: the rushing success that they had early on in the

670
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 10: season is going out the door because teams are now

671
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 10: just putting seven eight guys in the box and daring

672
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 10: them to throw the ball over the top.

673
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 5: So that's that.

674
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 10: I don't know if they have a definite answer to

675
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 10: besides playing Drake, but I don't know if they have

676
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 10: a definite answer to defensively. I thought what was so

677
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 10: disappointing about this game was that they go into the

678
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 10: game playing so Nickel and Marcus Jones is just getting

679
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 10: run over at the Nickel spot, like they just they

680
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 10: can't stop the run out of Nickel, and so what

681
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 10: do they do? They go into base defense, and I

682
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 10: don't know if Isaiah Bolden can play or not. I

683
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 10: don't know, but I would have liked to have seen

684
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 10: something a little bit more creative in that spot, like, Okay,

685
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 10: so you have five foot eight Marcus Jones who can't

686
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 10: block Juwan or can't take on a block from Juwan

687
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 10: Jennings or George Kittle, Like surprise, surprise, why don't we

688
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 10: put a big Nickel out there instead of Marcus Jones?

689
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 5: You know, when they.

690
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 10: Signize it, when they signed Isaiah Bolden to the roster,

691
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 10: that's sort of what I was hoping was going to

692
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 10: be the plan. Potentially, if they couldn't stop the run

693
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 10: out of their traditional nickel.

694
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 5: So what do they do.

695
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 10: They put bass on the field, and now Jelani Tavai

696
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 10: is twenty yards deep trying to chase Brandon Aiyuk going

697
00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 10: across the field. And all five explosive passing plays the

698
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 10: forty nine ers in this game came against base defense.

699
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 10: So four dbs on the field. Brock Purty averaged sixteen

700
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 10: yards per attempt against the Patriots and base So they

701
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 10: got into this position where they couldn't stop the run

702
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 10: in nickel and they couldn't stop the passing base And

703
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 10: so that's how you have all of this going on.

704
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 10: And to me, like that's the coaching just is a

705
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 10: step behind there. You know, Kyle gets him into those

706
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 10: base packages and he just starts passing the ball.

707
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, and I listen,

708
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 4: I appreciate that breakdown. I think that's really good analysis.

709
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, isn't it They

710
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: didn't They just don't have the players.

711
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 5: You know, in this particular game San Francisco, I think

712
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 5: does that to a lot of teams.

713
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but even outside of this game, they just don't

714
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 4: have the depth to even do what you're saying to

715
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 4: you know, like it could be worse and they might

716
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 4: know that if they do.

717
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 5: But the interesting thing to me listening to Evan talk

718
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 5: about that, because I didn't really you know, it's hard

719
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 5: to see exactly what they're in every play when you're

720
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 5: watching on TV, and you know, when you watch and

721
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 5: you just sort of see flashes like Marcus Jones, to me,

722
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 5: looks like he's played reasonably well. And I think we

723
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 5: both pointed him out. I don't think we put him

724
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 5: on the good list or anything, but I think we

725
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 5: both pointed him out as he might be the you know,

726
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 5: the most consistent guy. I think he's been a pretty

727
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 5: sure tackler and whatnot, But you don't really see him

728
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 5: getting manhandled in the run game like the way Evan

729
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 5: just explained. That's a I mean, that's a big part

730
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 5: of that. If you're going to be out there, you

731
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 5: know you need especially when you're going against a team

732
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 5: like this that wants to run the ball to the edges.

733
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 5: This this stress, this stress out there and they're going

734
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 5: to play another one. Those defensive backs need to hold up.

735
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan, He's he's recognizing what we're doing well.

736
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 5: The thing that I the thing that I was really

737
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 5: impressed with for Evans boy, I took a shot at

738
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 5: Shanahan earlier. I'm gonna I give him a ton of

739
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 5: credit for, you know, dials up three bombs on first downs,

740
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 5: and two of them were really pitch and catch, to

741
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 5: be honest with you, and one of them, I thought

742
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 5: Gonzalez had excellent coverage on the On the one that

743
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 5: was incomplete, I thought Gonzalez was right with Conley. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

744
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 5: Chris Conley, which maybe I'd take a few points away

745
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 5: from your boy Shanahan on that one, but he obviously

746
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 5: saw something Again. I don't know if it was because

747
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 5: Douger was hurt and they felt like they could exploit this.

748
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 12: Uh.

749
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 5: Jalen Hawkins definitely is coming down to worry about the

750
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 5: over instead of worrying about I think it was debo

751
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 5: on the first one and leaves Jonathan Jones all by

752
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 5: himself on an island and he got dusted, and only

753
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 5: because he's so competitive. Jonathan Jones puldvented a touchdown. Marcus

754
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 5: Jones very competitive. I mean he goes up and he

755
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 5: he you know, he does all he can. But to

756
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 5: Evans point, he's five to eight and Juwan Jennings is

757
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 5: what he is. He just goes up and makes the catch.

758
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 5: It wasn't like a overly difficult catch, but it was

759
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 5: headitive coverage. But I give Shannahan credit for identifying that.

760
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 5: And you know, what is it four plays of thirty

761
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 5: eight yards or more or something like that.

762
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, they just don't have the horses in the front

763
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 10: seven at the linebacker level to play as much zone

764
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 10: defense as they're playing in certain spots because like the

765
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 10: forty nine Ers can play zone like that because they

766
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 10: have Fred Warner. So when Fred Warner has to run

767
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 10: the hole and cover two, it's like basically a safety

768
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 10: doing it.

769
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 5: Right.

770
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 10: So the Patriots, instead of Fred Warner, it's Jolanie Devai

771
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 10: or it's ray Kwan McMillan. And I'm not like picking

772
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 10: on those guys, Oh it's not, but that's not their game.

773
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 10: And maybe they would have adjusted to Dougger being in

774
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 10: that spot if he was healthy, But that's that's the breaks.

775
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 10: Like you got to figure out a way to get

776
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 10: into some different personnel to take those things away. And

777
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 10: you know, Hawkins is jumping the over because that's what

778
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 10: they've been killing them on the entire game.

779
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 5: You know, they hit why I give you a boy

780
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 5: credit one step ahead.

781
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, they hit Jennings, they hit ayuk on two explosives

782
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 10: earlier on in the game on the over in the concept.

783
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 10: So what does Hawkins do? He jumps the over and

784
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 10: they throw the posts like that. It's really simple stuff

785
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 10: that they're doing schematically from an offensive standpoints. Just timing

786
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 10: up those shots was really well done by Shanahan. So

787
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 10: you know, those are the tough things. But you know,

788
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 10: we talked on catch twenty two about like Marte Mapu

789
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 10: being that that bigger nickel, you know, Isaiah Bolden being

790
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 10: that bigger nickel, Like you have to find ways to

791
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 10: just stay in personnel that can stop the pass. You

792
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 10: can't give up five explosive passes.

793
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 4: El from Wisconsin. It's not the record that fans are

794
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: upset about. It's that watching this offense is the equivalent

795
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 4: of shoving ice picks into your eyes.

796
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 5: I agree with that teams.

797
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 4: Can be bad but still watchable. This isn't. Even if

798
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 4: May has a rough start, at least he's learning I've

799
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 4: watched football my whole life, and I can't play quarterback.

800
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 4: He needs to actually play to grow.

801
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 5: No, and like that's the point that the slight pushback

802
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 5: with I had with Fred's opening opening take is that, yes,

803
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 5: I think we all expected to struggle as a team

804
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 5: and not necessarily go, you know, eleven and six and

805
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 5: win the AFC East. But everybody was convinced it couldn't

806
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 5: be any worse offensively, and it is. It's tough to watch.

807
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 5: It's tough when it's when it's third and eight and

808
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 5: you're like, this is a good time to go get

809
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 5: a drink and I'll be back after the punt and

810
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 5: I'll watch the next series because you don't think there's

811
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 5: really much shot. Yeah, that's that's a hard way.

812
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: To to me that team just right now. And I

813
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: hate to say it it's just because of Jacoby.

814
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 5: I don't think it's just because of now.

815
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 4: Oh, if Drake May was in there, you wouldn't be

816
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 4: going to get a drunk.

817
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, that's but that's not the same thing.

818
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have all that much more faith that they're

819
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 5: going to convert it. Why because they have no protection

820
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 5: and they have no threats.

821
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 4: But he figure it out. That's okay.

822
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 5: So you're thinking, so Gerad is really screwing this up.

823
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 4: Then I think that he needs to make the call.

824
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 10: Okay, I think Giad is screwing it up. I'll say

825
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 10: it like I on third down. They have plays to

826
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 10: be made, like it's you know, Kaishan Boody is open

827
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 10: on the dig route and he just doesn't throw the

828
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 10: ball like he's open, like.

829
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 5: Terry Pickin terrible, Like I told you guys that he

830
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 5: couldn't play, and you guys all yelled at me. So

831
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 5: now he can't play in that, and now you guys

832
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 5: want a new guy. This is not just about the quarterback.

833
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 5: This is way bigger than just I'm not saying.

834
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's not just about the quarterback. But

835
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: he would give you hope so that I would have

836
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 4: hope because I think third and eight.

837
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 5: No, I would have hope that he's going to get

838
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 5: better as he continues to play. I don't have hope

839
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 5: that it would look dramatically better Sunday, I don't it might.

840
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 5: I hope that by the end of eight weeks, nine weeks,

841
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 5: twelve weeks, he's ready to go. If that's why I

842
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 5: wanted to play, Yes, that's what I wanted to play.

843
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 5: I'm with Evan, I'm play may. I am like absolutely

844
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 5: because I knew what Brissette was. Again, you guys all

845
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 5: yelled at me when I said I'm not convinced he's

846
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 5: better than Mac Jones.

847
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: I never yelled at him.

848
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 5: Are you're right? You give me them, you give me

849
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 5: the smile because you don't, because you don't yell.

850
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 6: I don't yell.

851
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 3: But but everybody.

852
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 5: Pushed back when I said I'm not convinced that this

853
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 5: is going to be better than Mac Jones. Everybody pushed

854
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 5: back on that. You hate Matt, Yes, I do. I

855
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 5: have no use for Mac Jones. This guy has never

856
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 5: been consistently better than Mac Jones. And then he's not

857
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 5: better than Mac Jones, and people were stunned.

858
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 10: I don't know how I think I understood just how

859
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 10: much that Cleveland, OH Line was doing for them in

860
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 10: twenty two because he was better. Persett was better in

861
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 10: twenty two.

862
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 5: Maybe a couple of games just like Mac for a

863
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 5: couple of games in twenty one was okay, But it

864
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 5: wasn't ever about him. No in Cleveland was never about Pert.

865
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 5: That's my point is I think that the they won

866
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 5: more games even that year when Deshaun Watson, who looks

867
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 5: like he has completely done started playing.

868
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 4: Washed to wash Watson, that's my name for him. All right,

869
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 4: let's go to the TPX. How Jose in New Hampshire.

870
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 4: What's up, Joe, Joe?

871
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 13: Can you hear it?

872
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 5: Yes?

873
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 14: All right?

874
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 15: So Evan touched on it a few minutes ago. I

875
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 15: was wondering if putting May in will cause the defense

876
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 15: to kind of stop stacking the box, and if that

877
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 15: could help the offense look better by opening up the

878
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 15: run game a little bit and maybe some of the

879
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 15: short throws rather than just watching May bomb and sixty

880
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 15: yards down the field they did off the air.

881
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's the hope. But he's gonna have

882
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 4: to prove that they're not gonna like just say all right,

883
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 4: a mazing. We have to respect that. He's going to

884
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 4: have to make them pay first before they back off.

885
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 10: If they want to give him iso shots on the

886
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 10: outside them good luck. Like that's the one thing I

887
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 10: trust that he could actually do. Like he's not even

888
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 10: reading the field at that point, like you're just you

889
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 10: know I I it just frustrates me to like watch

890
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 10: Jakobe make rookie mistakes and then say we can't play

891
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 10: the rookie because he's gonna make rookie mistakes. I like,

892
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 10: it's like he you know, on third down, they have

893
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 10: a they run you know, crossers mesh mesh concept and

894
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 10: it's man to man coverage. Nobody covers Hunter Henry. It's

895
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 10: a coverage bust, like he's he's uncovered on the play

896
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 10: and Persette climbs up into a clean pocket and gets

897
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 10: himself into pressure.

898
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 6: That is exactly what people tell me is why Drake

899
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 6: May can't play.

900
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 10: It is because he's gonna cause his own pressure. But

901
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 10: I have But it's okay if Jacoby does that, because

902
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 10: he's like this sacrificial lamb out there, and what difference

903
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 10: does it make. But that's the biggest thing I think

904
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 10: Drake May would bring to the table is third down.

905
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 10: Like I don't know if it's gonna be clean all

906
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 10: the time, but he to me, I really believe that

907
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 10: Drake would make more plays on it.

908
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 4: Don't get don't I hope no one's getting confused that

909
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 4: I think, Oh, if we put Drake May in all

910
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 4: of a sudden, you know they're gonna be scoring points

911
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 4: and you know, winning games. No, it's gonna be rough,

912
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: but at least we start the process and at least

913
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 4: at times we're gonna see some you know, quarterback play,

914
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 4: you know, some NFL quarterback play.

915
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I just don't like necessarily all of

916
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 5: that I agree with. That's why I want to play him.

917
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 5: I want to play him so I can get him

918
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 5: to the point where I know if he's my guy

919
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 5: as quickly as I can. I don't want to wait

920
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 5: a whole year before I find that out. I want

921
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 5: to find that out now. But I don't think that

922
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 5: the the way that teams play them is going to change.

923
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: Until they get it.

924
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 5: So what I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about

925
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 5: the receivers, Like I think Evan's right, I think there

926
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 5: have been some guys underneath. I think, Mike, when you

927
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 5: talked about, you know, seeing do Mario Douglas or whatever,

928
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 5: there's some guys underneath. And I think I don't think

929
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 5: Drake May is going to make those receivers, you know,

930
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 5: more of a threat to get down the field. Now.

931
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 5: He's going to throw balls up, maybe more often than

932
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 5: Brissett does, and maybe you come down with them like

933
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 5: the one that Polk almost came down with on that

934
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 5: hail Mary on the fourth down. But like, I just

935
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 5: don't think those guys, I don't think you're gonna all

936
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 5: of a sudden say, well, now we've got to stop

937
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 5: playing too high against them, because no, no, I still can't.

938
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 5: I'm gonna the receivers are not going to change.

939
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally the making.

940
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 4: But if he hits Pop underneath, you know a little

941
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 4: bit more, now he's going to have to He's going

942
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 4: to earn the respect of the of the defense.

943
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 5: But it's not going to make them back off, is

944
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 5: my point.

945
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 4: Well, it's gonna make them play up and maybe some

946
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: intermediate passes will develop.

947
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm I'm I'm with Paul on this one.

948
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 9: And that's even with my positivity of feeling positive about

949
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 9: Douglas and whatever.

950
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 5: Is saying is going to happen. I have to hope

951
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 5: that Hunter Henry on the dig route that Jacoby Pressett's

952
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 5: missing is not okay, So who was going to dig round?

953
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 5: Booty booty booty, Like I have to hope that May

954
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 5: is going to hit those right so I can get

955
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 5: I get first down, you know, That's what I have

956
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 5: to hope. I don't have this illusion that well you know,

957
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 5: Sasca now is going to have to really worry about

958
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 5: Taekwon hes gonna have. But the one thing I would

959
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 5: say that.

960
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 10: With Polk, Polk is one of those guys and the

961
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 10: back shoulder throw is a perfect example of this where

962
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 10: you need to put the ball like on Jalen Polk,

963
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 10: like he's not gonna out, He's not gonna catch it

964
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 10: over the shoulder because he doesn't have that kind of speed.

965
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 10: So if you put it up on a platter for

966
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 10: him and allow him to use his hands as his

967
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 10: body control, like that's where he makes plays down the field.

968
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 10: And Pennix would just do that all the time at Washington,

969
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 10: just back shoulders, high points.

970
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 6: Like things like that.

971
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 10: And uh and you saw that on Sunday in the

972
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 10: game on the one catch that he had that he's

973
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 10: able to do that. I think Drake would be more

974
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 10: willing to pull the trigger on those types of throws

975
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 10: where he's throwing guys open instead of seeing him wide open,

976
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 10: you know, down the field and then throwing them.

977
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 9: He's got a good shake to him, like you know,

978
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 9: and I think we always are qualifying with him because

979
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 9: he doesn't have the four three speed. I think he

980
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 9: can play. I think he's a tough player. I think

981
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 9: if you took him Pop born next year and you

982
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 9: add in that alpha dog with some legit speed. To

983
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 9: what Paul is saying, that's when you start to cook

984
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 9: with gas. But what's encouraging to me is just that

985
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 9: I felt like, even going into the summer, you're looking

986
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 9: at a mishmash of receivers. You don't really know what

987
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 9: they can do well. A couple of years ago, you

988
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 9: didn't have anybody who could separate. And I feel pretty

989
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 9: good about the kind of separation. Folk's gonna get it.

990
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 9: It's unique to him, but he can separate. He can

991
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 9: get away from guys. And if you get a quarterback

992
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 9: who knows how to throw with anticipation and can put

993
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 9: it on him, he's gonna be a tough, productive guy

994
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 9: who's gonna pick up big first downs. Pop's gonna shake

995
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 9: people on third down. To your point, Fred like he's

996
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 9: gonna get open quick, no question. I agree with Paul though.

997
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 9: They need that piece on the outside. They need somebody

998
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 9: with speed that has live legs, that gives them something

999
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 9: to think about, because may we'll throw it to him,

1000
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 9: But that's the miss, that's the missing because I actually.

1001
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 5: Think if you start completing more of those passes, it's

1002
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 5: gonna cause the defense to get even more condensed. Sure. Yeah,

1003
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 5: the least you find a way to get down the

1004
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 5: field with different players, it's gonna make Like I think

1005
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 5: right now, teams are playing very soft on them because

1006
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 5: they can't because they know they can't complete. To Evan's point,

1007
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 5: in Mike's point, Brissette's missing too many of these opportunities.

1008
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 5: So why do you why would you take any chances right,

1009
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 5: Why would you come up on third and eight say

1010
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 5: I got to get right in this guy's shirt on

1011
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 5: this like little four yard shallow cross because they don't

1012
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 5: complete enough of them, ETD.

1013
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 10: So I just feel like I think it's the opposite.

1014
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 10: I feel like end in these guys' faces constantly see.

1015
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 5: I think that they're content to let these passes happen

1016
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 5: because they know they ain't going to complete enough of

1017
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 5: them to beat them. It's like they're not going to

1018
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 5: come up and just say I'm just going to sell

1019
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 5: out and do everything you know and worry about the run.

1020
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 5: Gift go ahead. And Tennessee ran the ball all night

1021
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 5: last night. They couldn't score. They couldn't get the ball

1022
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 5: in the end zone. They kept having to get fifty

1023
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 5: five yard field goals by one hundred and eleven year

1024
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 5: old Nick Folk, right, three fifty plus yard field goals.

1025
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 10: Norm I would agree with what you're saying in terms

1026
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 10: of the big picture, But the Patriots downfield passing game

1027
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 10: is so nonexistent. Oh yeah that the last two weeks,

1028
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 10: they are all up on the line of scrimmage, like

1029
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 10: they're getting the boxes that are crazy, like there's like

1030
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 10: eleven guys within ten.

1031
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 5: Yards they are. But I don't think they're necessarily getting

1032
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 5: in people's grills. I mean, maybe you see it differently.

1033
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 5: I don't. I see guys running across the field and

1034
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 5: they they seem like they're kind of open at times

1035
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 5: on these little shallow crosses. Now, maybe it takes two,

1036
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 5: like they kept showing one for Douglas the other day.

1037
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 5: That seemed to me like took twenty minutes from they

1038
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 5: get across the field before we finally cleared that was

1039
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 5: the one they kept showing. They kept showing the iso

1040
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 5: of the secondary when you have no idea what's happening

1041
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 5: in the backfield, but they can't complete them, like if

1042
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 5: it's Evan and Mike, and they're right, and it's because

1043
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 5: of Brissett. Maybe May starts to complete those and I

1044
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 5: think that they're going to adjust and say, Okay, we

1045
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 5: got to take that away. Of course we got to

1046
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 5: take that away. But right now there's no threat to

1047
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 5: get behind you, and no one's worried about it all now.

1048
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 5: And I don't think that changes whether it's mayover.

1049
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 6: I think the only thing that makes change.

1050
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 10: I think maybe the only thing that changes with me

1051
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 10: is I have to keep defending my boy because he

1052
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 10: should be playing. It is the off script stuff. So

1053
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 10: when he starts to break the pocket and he goes

1054
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 10: off script, that gives guys more time to get opened

1055
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 10: down the field. So you're not asking them to be

1056
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 10: Tyreek kill and just run by somebody because now all

1057
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 10: of a sudden, the play is four or five seconds into.

1058
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 5: It, which is totally different.

1059
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 10: Right, And maybe you can get some guys opened down

1060
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 10: down the field that way, and then, like he showed

1061
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 10: in the preseason in Washington, even though the play didn't count, I.

1062
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 5: Know you guys were exhausted. So I assume you didn't

1063
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 5: see much of the Seattle Detroit game last night. I

1064
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 5: did yeah. I feel like I continue to owe Gino

1065
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 5: Smith an apology some of the plays he made, like

1066
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 5: that that you're talking about Evan last night, Like yeah,

1067
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 5: they gotta they dial up a blitz and there's like

1068
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 5: Angeloni right on them, or some like uh, was it

1069
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 5: Kirby Joseph? What's the guy's name that set the safety?

1070
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 5: I think thirty one, I forget his name. He had

1071
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 5: him dead to rights a couple of times. He just

1072
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 5: like shakes it off, runs around, buys time, and then

1073
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 5: he's like throwing a missile like eighteen yards to lock it,

1074
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 5: like down the middle of the field. Like that's what

1075
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 5: Drake May can do. Drake May can avoid that one sack.

1076
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 5: And now all of a sudden, it goes from advantage

1077
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 5: defense because you dialed up a great blitz and should

1078
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 5: have had a sack, but you missed it. Now it's

1079
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 5: advantage offense because now you have an athletic quarterback who's

1080
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 5: broken containment. And now your average receivers are above average

1081
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 5: because now it's off script, and now that the coverage

1082
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 5: is out of position, you can't I don't care how

1083
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 5: good you are, you can't cover for that long right,

1084
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 5: And I think that's what you potentially could get from

1085
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 5: Drake May, Like now you're speaking my Gino was really

1086
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 5: good last night. I don't know if you guys out

1087
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 5: any of the.

1088
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 6: Highlights the number one offense in the league in DVA.

1089
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 5: I mean he threw for like four hundred yards and

1090
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 5: every time he was out there, he had to score

1091
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 5: because it was one of those games that Detroit just

1092
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 5: scored at you know, you know, golf win eighteen for

1093
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 5: eighteen in the game, yep, for like three hundred yards.

1094
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 5: It wasn't like it was checking down every place for

1095
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 5: me to throw.

1096
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 10: Golf died, I don't even know who the receiver is

1097
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 10: and just over the middle with anticipation on an absolute

1098
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 10: laser and I was just like, holy crap, Like you know,

1099
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 10: the Patriots never do that, Like there's never any anticipation.

1100
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 5: There's never anything. Two teams that could pass the ball.

1101
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 10: Yeah, Like the Seahawks were passing the ball because Gino

1102
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 10: was playing great and their receivers are great. Golf was

1103
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 10: fitting the ball and into a key hole and they're

1104
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 10: either way you slide.

1105
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like just like what a beautiful play to get

1106
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 5: your speech to sort of that kind of space across

1107
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 5: the field. You hit him in stride, he turns it

1108
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 5: up and it's like boom. I mean you can score

1109
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 5: that fast.

1110
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 9: There was one like Polk on a comeback to I

1111
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 9: think on the left sideline where it's like he stops,

1112
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 9: he turns around, He's like waiting for a beat.

1113
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 3: You know, there's never turn around. It's right there, you know,

1114
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 3: with that kind of anticipation with it.

1115
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's he doesn't like to throw, you know, like

1116
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 10: those types of hitch routes. Those hitch routes are are

1117
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 10: pre snap anticipatory throws, like you're not waiting to see

1118
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 10: those types of throws open when you get the cushion

1119
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 10: and they call them free access where there's like nothing

1120
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 10: underneath it. You just you're just throwing it off, feel

1121
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 10: at the lot and Brissette doesn't want to do that.

1122
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 6: He wants to see it like.

1123
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 5: Two or three of them, like in the on the

1124
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 5: first possession, it's like they dial it up. They talk

1125
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 5: about it all week, they have a script and you

1126
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 5: see it like and you know Mayo talked about it

1127
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 5: like the idea was to really get the ball out

1128
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 5: of his hands quickly, and you see it like there

1129
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 5: was an early third down quick out to Douglas I

1130
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 5: think you know there was Yeah, the sprint out. That

1131
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 5: was the play. That's the one I was thinking about.

1132
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 5: You know, it was like boom boom boom bank. You know,

1133
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 5: like nothing to think about, nothing to wait on, just

1134
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 5: throw it, you know, had another one I think to

1135
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 5: Henry for a first down in the first quarter. That

1136
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 5: make those just go away. And I think it's the

1137
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 5: cumulative effect of getting the snot kicked out of you

1138
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 5: over the course of sixty minutes now for four straight games,

1139
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 5: where that's what I think that's knocking him off. That's

1140
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 5: why I think it might be time. I mean, I

1141
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 5: just like, get a fresh set of eyes out there

1142
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 5: who's not used to taking the pounding, and maybe he

1143
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 5: starts making some play.

1144
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: Is there any way to prevent that with Drake May

1145
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 3: when he does get in here.

1146
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 4: I mean that's Oh, it's just avoiding it and extending it.

1147
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 4: I mean, you just hope he's a little bit more mobile. Yeah,

1148
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 4: that's it. I mean he's gonna get the snot kicked

1149
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 4: out of him too.

1150
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 16: No.

1151
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 3: I mean, Evan like exactly exactly what I was.

1152
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 9: Thinking last night, where it's like if if we're gonna

1153
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 9: watch Jacoby Brissett kind of unable to move in the

1154
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 9: pocket and have no feel like I'd rather just watch

1155
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 9: Drake May doing it so that he can start to

1156
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 9: learn a little bit and you know, get it.

1157
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 3: But I mean, I will say too, I don't it's.

1158
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 9: Not all on Jacoby Brissette, Like I don't want to

1159
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 9: make it sound like, oh god, they'd be great, Like

1160
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 9: there are definitely issues on the offensive line that are

1161
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 9: you know, and even the guys said yesterday, I mean

1162
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 9: Gibson talking on the media, like, you know, Jacoby admits

1163
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 9: some plays on him and other ones. We just we

1164
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 9: got to protect him. That's how bad football teams are.

1165
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 9: It's like whack them all with problems on both sides

1166
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 9: of the all. But for me, it just feels like

1167
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 9: it's getting to a point where you're not really being

1168
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 9: that net neutral quarterback we need you to be if

1169
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 9: you're gonna start hurting it and missing plays and not,

1170
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 9: you know, not even running the offense that's there to

1171
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 9: be taken.

1172
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 3: It's it's all right, clocks taking.

1173
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 4: TPX up line eight five to five, pass five hundred.

1174
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 4: Shane's in Houston, what's up, Shane? Shane and Houston.

1175
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 11: Hey, hey, hey, yeah, Houston.

1176
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 17: Listeners kills for about ten years ago. Of everything you

1177
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 17: guys say, some points that I wanted to touch up on.

1178
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 17: I don't really think putting in je May over to

1179
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 17: Kobe Myer as well as both his team, I think

1180
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 17: they're kind of back. I think the only confident looking

1181
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 17: team in the NFL, maybe outside of like North Carolina.

1182
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 17: The guy go back looks to me like they're in

1183
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 17: such a hall that they put yourself in it. I'll think,

1184
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 17: I just want to make I don't really think this

1185
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 17: peer is gonna be salvage it almost And I don't

1186
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 17: want to be coctive, but I do think there's some

1187
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 17: good things really fly. Maybe you can see your long term.

1188
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 5: But I can't.

1189
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 4: It's it's a bad connection. But I think the point

1190
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 4: is he doesn't think putting in May is going to

1191
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 4: salvage a season, which I agree, it's not going to

1192
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 4: salvage a season, but it will begin, it will begin

1193
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 4: the clock on May's progress, on May as a quarterback

1194
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 4: of the of the Patriots going forward, and that's all

1195
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 4: we're looking for, you know. And and but I do

1196
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 4: think it will make a difference in what we see.

1197
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 4: I do think you'll see how you know, he'll make

1198
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 4: a positive difference in the offense, not to the point

1199
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 4: where now all of a sudden they're going to start

1200
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 4: running off wins.

1201
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 5: You hope. No, But that's why that's the idea.

1202
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 4: That's my expectation.

1203
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 5: Okay, but that's like the idea is to get him

1204
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 5: out there so he can transition from raw rookie to

1205
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 5: a guy who's helping the offense. Right, if you wait

1206
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 5: till next year, I think that's a lost opportunity.

1207
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 3: And then it's just the two silver linings.

1208
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 9: I'd say, like even in a loss like that, you'd say, well,

1209
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 9: he got a bunch of experience today, and with the

1210
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 9: way that I've seen him play, he's going to try

1211
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 9: a couple crazy throws during the game. So maybe he

1212
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 9: hits one or two and you come out of that

1213
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 9: game and you're like, yeah, we lost, but he got experience,

1214
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 9: And man, did you see that one throw?

1215
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: Like you know, those are the kind of thing experience.

1216
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I just look at you know, the

1217
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 5: other rookies and you know, and I focused mostly on

1218
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 5: the on Williams and Daniels, not because Nix hasn't been

1219
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 5: as good but I don't think Nix is in their category.

1220
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 5: That's why I separate Nicks. But you just see some development,

1221
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 5: you see plays. It's not perfect, And I know it

1222
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 5: looks perfect with Daniels because it's like the eighty whatever

1223
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 5: percentage completely, But like there's growing pains for him too,

1224
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 5: But it's you, weren't you. You have a chance to

1225
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 5: work through them, and you have a chance to improve.

1226
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 5: I just think the idea of just improving by watching

1227
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 5: is yeah, very limited.

1228
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 4: With Daniels. I guarantee the rest of the season is

1229
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 4: not gonna go like it is right now. Like Evan said,

1230
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 4: things are gonna be on tape. Teams are going to

1231
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 4: adjust to him. They're not gonna they're they're gonna start

1232
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 4: respecting them, which means they're gonna, you know, start getting

1233
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 4: after him and and and treating him a little bit differently.

1234
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 4: So his his season will be up and down too.

1235
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 4: But like Paul said, he's getting experience, he's he's learning

1236
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 4: things and and when bad things happen, he's gonna learn

1237
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 4: from that too. Right now, Drake May has none of that,

1238
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 4: you know, opportunity.

1239
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're starting the clock on the Drake mate, you know,

1240
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 9: or for whatever it will be. But that's I think

1241
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 9: everybody is just like itching to get go, because let's go.

1242
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 9: We've watched this for five years and the tractor everything

1243
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 9: is hard for them, and then everything has been hard

1244
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 9: for them with this offense for you know, except for

1245
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,479
Speaker 9: a couple random little moments, it's been tough.

1246
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 5: It's been tough. Yeah.

1247
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 10: Also, you have post Thanksgiving cliff to worry about. If

1248
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 10: you're Jayden Daniels, Cliff Kingsbury literally falls off a cliff

1249
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 10: every single year in the second half of the season

1250
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 10: because teams start to catch up to all the crazy

1251
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 10: crappy drew up in the summer and then everybody catches

1252
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 10: up to it around Thanksgiving.

1253
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 6: But you know, I just worry a lot too.

1254
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 10: And I think you mentioned Godshaw's comments maybe earlier, like

1255
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 10: being in that locker room after the game. There's a

1256
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 10: lot of frustrated people in that locker room, and that's

1257
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 10: sort of what I was expecting was going to happen,

1258
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 10: was at some point you start to risk losing guys

1259
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 10: in the locker room because you're not not just because

1260
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 10: of the losing literally, but also just because like Pop

1261
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 10: Douglas and Jalen Polk and like, these guys are starting

1262
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 10: to get frustrated.

1263
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 5: Ahead no, no, go ahead that I just did you

1264
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 5: get a sense that there was Like with Tomorrio Douglas,

1265
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 5: I had a couple of people say he quit at

1266
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 5: the end of the game. He walked off the field

1267
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 5: before the last like the last couple of snaps. It

1268
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 5: was like two or three snaps left and he took

1269
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 5: himself out, Like, I mean, I can't see that on TV.

1270
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 9: I didn't see it, but I was just about to

1271
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 9: ask Evan if because I feel like, especially with Douglas,

1272
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 9: I noticed it on that one third down I mentioned

1273
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 9: where but you notice these guys are open and then

1274
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 9: they look back and the ball didn't go to them,

1275
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 9: and you see that like frustrated pull up, like the

1276
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 9: frustrated slow down and kind of gathering yourself.

1277
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 5: I just I don't know if you were there, if

1278
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 5: you if you notice that.

1279
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 9: But I in my head, I'm watching these guys and

1280
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 9: I'm thinking they're all thinking when May comes, he's gonna.

1281
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 5: He's gonna he's gonna hit me.

1282
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 9: Like I just think they're getting frstrated because they're getting open,

1283
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 9: they're running rountes, they're seeing open field in front of them.

1284
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 9: They look back and you know, Jacoby's either on the ground,

1285
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 9: which you know might not be Jacoby's fault necessarily, or

1286
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 9: he's thrown in the dirt to somebody somewhere else that

1287
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 9: was more cover.

1288
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just feel like you're getting to the point,

1289
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 10: you know, Pop Douglas and just see it on the

1290
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 10: ALL twenty two, just after some of these plays, he's

1291
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 10: just like losing his mind at this point, like he's like,

1292
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 10: I'm right here, guy, Like you know, what what do

1293
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 10: we what do we doing? You know, he ran a

1294
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 10: cross or over the middle of the field, and afterwards

1295
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 10: you can see the straps come off the helmet and

1296
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 10: him just like run, you know, walk off the field,

1297
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 10: pissed off. And you know it's not just all about him.

1298
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 10: You know, you're not playing Drake just to get Pop

1299
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 10: Douglas the ball. But in general, you look at this

1300
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 10: and the defense is going up against Drake every day

1301
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 10: in practice with him on the scout team, and they're

1302
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 10: telling us, you know, they're telling the beat that he's

1303
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 10: making these throws that are just crazy in practice. You know,

1304
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 10: Mike Pelgreno is going back and watching the throw on

1305
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 10: the ALL twenty two on the practice footage, just to

1306
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 10: like be like, holy crap, what a throw? And at

1307
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 10: what point does a defense start to say, like what

1308
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 10: we got to Ferrari in the garage and we're going

1309
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 10: out there with this, like what why? Because you know

1310
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 10: we have to protect him, Like what about me?

1311
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 12: You know?

1312
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 5: What about us?

1313
00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 4: Right? Just some other guys on this?

1314
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a pink song.

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01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 4: Actually what about that line? What's up Boddy.

1316
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 18: Handy?

1317
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 7: But they should taking my call a few points if

1318
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 7: he allowed me to hit on Firstly, I think any

1319
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 7: criticism outside of the offensive line is a little bits

1320
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Speaker 7: guided at this time. I mean, we have worse than

1321
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 7: the league. I don't blame Jacoby Precept for looking as

1322
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 7: bad because I think they're speeding up his clock. I mean,

1323
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 7: he doesn't have time to make the right read and

1324
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 7: now he's getting into his own head because he doesn't

1325
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 7: have the time anymore. So if it's understated how bad

1326
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 7: this line is at this point to me, and Drake

1327
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 7: May is not going to fix that. I mean personally,

1328
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 7: I think that he should sit for the year, and

1329
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 7: I understand the comments and ideas about starting him to

1330
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 7: get an experience, but it's going to be the same thing.

1331
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 7: And do we want our quarterback to practice being a

1332
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 7: play extender, a you know, any emergency, get it out,

1333
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 7: run out, going to be a quarterback first things, and

1334
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 7: then I want him to practice everything else. I mean,

1335
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 7: we have a whole year and off season to practice.

1336
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 7: During practice, the game should be for execution. That's my

1337
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 7: personal point. And then lastly, I'm so happy to hear

1338
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 7: Mayo touch on what he said about his plan and

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01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 7: sticking to it.

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01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 15: I mean, that's music to my ears because I don't

1341
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 15: know what he said.

1342
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 4: He said he has a plan, but you know, like

1343
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I didn't hear the part.

1344
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 5: I don't know, Yeah, what did what did he say?

1345
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 4: So? He said in Belichick touched on it yesterday too

1346
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 4: that Mayo said after the game, you know, we have

1347
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 4: a plan. And then Belichick said, you know, Mayo says

1348
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 4: he's got a plan. I'm not sure what it is.

1349
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 4: But if he says it, he says he has a plan,

1350
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 4: I guess he does. I mean, isn't the plan is obvious?

1351
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 6: They want to sit trake me.

1352
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 5: They want to be patient, and they want to be patient.

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01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 3: That's the plan.

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01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 6: What's so confusing about.

1355
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 4: Well, but is the plan it can be using because

1356
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 4: is the plan for set amount of games and they're

1357
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 4: going to stick to that no matter what, or was

1358
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 4: the plan simply open ended enough to say when he's ready,

1359
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 4: he'll play and and so now it could be any week.

1360
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 5: Well that's why I sort of said, like, what, like

1361
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 5: why I don't know what the plant? How could it

1362
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 5: be music to you is when you don't know what

1363
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 5: it is.

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01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 4: We don't know what the plan is.

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01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 10: I think he just wants them to be patient because

1366
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 10: the offensive line, which I understand and no one, I mean,

1367
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 10: we've talked about the offensive line being bad plenty. I

1368
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 10: think at this point, just for me, I just feel

1369
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 10: I'm kind of tired of blaming everything on the offensive

1370
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 10: line every single week.

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01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 5: It's not a reason to play or not play a quarterback. Yeah,

1372
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 5: that's all I'll say.

1373
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just I'm getting to the point I was

1374
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 10: here already last week, and I just reinforces it on

1375
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 10: Sunday where I start to worry about the entire thing

1376
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 10: with the way that things are going on now from

1377
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 10: player evaluation, like how I don't know what Jalen Polk

1378
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 10: can do because he doesn't get the ball right, So like.

1379
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,479
Speaker 5: I that's what I meant, That's what great point.

1380
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 4: What's going on now is stifling the progress of not

1381
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 4: just drake me right.

1382
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 10: Like can Jalen Polk? I think he's a really good

1383
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 10: at the catch point. He made a play on a

1384
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 10: back shoulder ball the other day. Can he create after

1385
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 10: the catch? Can he can he separate?

1386
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 5: Like don't?

1387
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 10: I don't know because he's not getting the ball, and

1388
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 10: I don't know if this line is truly this bad

1389
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 10: or if the quarterback is making it worse. So like

1390
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 10: you know, Leyden Robinson's having a tough time in pass

1391
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 10: protection right now. Gave up seven quarterback pressures in the

1392
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 10: game the other day. That's not very very high number.

1393
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 10: Is that because he's stinks or is it because the

1394
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 10: quarterback's holding the ball forever?

1395
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 6: Like I just don't know the answer to that.

1396
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 10: So if I'm Elliott Wolf, it's like I go into

1397
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 10: the off season, I have no answers. I don't know

1398
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 10: what this roster is offensively. I don't know what anybody

1399
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 10: else is offensively. And this is how coaches get fired,

1400
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 10: Like this is how regimes end quickly, So just real quick, just.

1401
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 9: Adding the agitation of the players that we talked about

1402
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 9: as well, And that to me.

1403
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 5: Is the is the is the bigger picture thing. And

1404
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 5: this is probably not something that's necessarily it's not necessarily

1405
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 5: an issue right this second, but this is the kind

1406
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 5: of stuff and you're going to watch for. And you know,

1407
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 5: I thought Gotchaw was on Wei here locally yesterday and

1408
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 5: he talked about the need for the defense. He talks

1409
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 5: specifically about the defense. There was no pointing fingers at

1410
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 5: the offense. Okay, so it wasn't that's when it gets

1411
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 5: train wreck level, right, Okay, he's just talking about just

1412
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 5: speaking for the defense. We need to do a better

1413
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 5: job of being on the same page and doing our

1414
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 5: jobs and not worried about running around trying to make plays. Okay,

1415
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 5: so you can definitely wonder about specifically, but that's to

1416
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 5: me that those are cracks. And when I see the

1417
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 5: body language of the Mario Douglas to me, for four

1418
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 5: weeks now, I've really kind of been tired of the

1419
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 5: body language there. I think to your point point one

1420
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 5: of you two, Mike or Fred made the point about

1421
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 5: Jalen Polk, you can't get to really see what he

1422
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 5: is and does he see to Mario Douglas and said, well,

1423
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 5: that's what you know. I need to be like that.

1424
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 5: I need to be because I don't think that's setting

1425
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 5: a good example. And I think it's fine when you're

1426
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 5: open and it's a third down and you turn and

1427
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 5: either the ball went somewhere else and you're you know, oh,

1428
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 5: we had a chance to make a play, as opposed

1429
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 5: to well I'm pissy because well I'm doing my job

1430
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 5: and they can't get me the ball, you know. And

1431
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 5: there's a fine line there.

1432
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 4: And I don't think Douglas would have that body language

1433
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 4: if other people were making catches. I like, no, no,

1434
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 4: ball's being caught. No, it's not even getting out.

1435
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 5: But there's a million examples every Sunday when you watch

1436
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 5: of a guy streaks down the post and he's open

1437
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 5: and they throw somewhere else on a third down and

1438
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 5: it's incomplete, and he's just like frustrated. That doesn't look

1439
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 5: like that, Yep, Like I don't there's been bad, bad

1440
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 5: body language with some of those players. I don't necessar

1441
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 5: really blame them. It's a frustrating. That's a frustrating four

1442
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 5: games for everybody involved.

1443
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 4: Michaelson for Mott, what's up, Michael, Michael, Michael Michael, you.

1444
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 5: Know while you're you know, sort of queuing up the

1445
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 5: next call, Like, is there a frustration level with say,

1446
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 5: you know? And I'm not saying there is, but would

1447
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 5: it be outrageous that Antonio Gibson's a little bit miffed?

1448
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 5: He seems to be pretty productive with the touches he gets,

1449
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 5: and yet the guy that plays over him fumbled in

1450
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 5: every game and doesn't seem to lose anything. Now, my

1451
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 5: guess is that's going to change at some point, right Girod,

1452
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 5: you know, has basically been pretty reactionary to what's going on.

1453
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 5: I'd be stunned if he hasn't heard all the people

1454
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 5: like us saying, well jeez, at one point, you like,

1455
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 5: do you take some playing time away from Romandri Stevenson.

1456
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 5: I mean, he's productive and all, but if he's fumbling,

1457
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 5: it's it's counterproductive. So I wonder if a guy like

1458
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 5: Antonio Gibson sits there and says, well, geez, I get

1459
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 5: you know a quarter of the touches, and I have

1460
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 5: similar production, you know, including I mean, I know it

1461
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 5: was garbage time, but including a fifty yard catch and

1462
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 5: run the other day. Yeah, I had the two guys

1463
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 5: that I highlighted and after further review that I think

1464
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 5: need to play more on offense where Antonio Gibson not

1465
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 5: just play more, but just get the ball more, more

1466
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 5: touches because there's only so many guys on this offense

1467
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 5: that can create explosives and he's one of them. You know,

1468
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 5: he gets lost a little bit in the concept on

1469
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 5: the fifty yard or and then you know he takes

1470
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 5: it fifty yards Like, there's not very many many guys

1471
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 5: on this offense that are going to do that, and

1472
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 5: I know I have to. You know, I pick on

1473
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 5: him a lot, So I'm gonna be careful here. But

1474
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 5: kJ Osborne, Like, let's give some snap.

1475
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 10: To some other people that aren't kJ Osborne and Taekwon

1476
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 10: Thornton at receiver. You know, I really do feel like

1477
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 10: Kendrick Bourne is going to make a big difference.

1478
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he started practicing this week and he's

1479
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 4: going to.

1480
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1481
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,439
Speaker 10: Like so him being out of that ready, Yeah, him

1482
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 10: being out there. You know, they couple plays early on

1483
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 10: They're looking for Kjosborne to separate against man coverage and

1484
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 10: you just can't get open. Yeah, So Kendrick burn being

1485
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 10: in that spot is an upgrade. I thought Kishan Boudi

1486
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 10: ran some decent routes that would make him an upgrade

1487
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 10: potentially too.

1488
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 6: So uh, there are those two things.

1489
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 5: I thought.

1490
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 6: The you know, more reps for some other guys there

1491
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 6: would have helped.

1492
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,360
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Speaker 20: Only went back to watch it, and I'm curious what

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Speaker 20: the coaching point is. I mean, it looks like he's

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01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 20: got the two hands around the ball. What is the

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01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 20: coaching point? Obviously that looked like the guard maybe missed

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Speaker 20: the block. Tell me what's about yourself?

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Speaker 15: That's right?

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Speaker 21: And some you know, look we missed the block on

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01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 21: that defender was able to get his hand in there

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01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 21: and rip the ball out. If you look at even

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Speaker 21: just the past, well just really all season he has

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01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 21: a target on his back as far as a guy

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01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 21: that doesn't have good ball security, and he knows he

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01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 21: has to improve that. And it's not just for him,

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Speaker 21: it's for anyone that that touches the football. We always

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01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 21: talk about ball security equaling job security, and we're trying

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Speaker 21: to continue to develop that.

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Speaker 7: Next question, Mike, Jerry, I just.

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Speaker 22: Wanted some clarification on what you just told the guys

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01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 22: in the radio. Uh, you said the plan. You were

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01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 22: asked about the plan for Drake and if it was

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Speaker 22: going to be revealed.

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Speaker 4: You said the plan.

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Speaker 22: We can't put the plan in place, essentially until we're competitive.

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Speaker 23: Is that.

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01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 21: I didn't I don't think I said you can't put

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01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 21: the plan in Plus, they wanted to know about the plan.

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01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 21: They wanted to know what the plan was, and so

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Speaker 21: it came up, Well, Drake was uh in there, could

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Speaker 21: you reveal the plan? And that's what I was saying.

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Speaker 21: I was like, no, it's this no one else's business.

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Speaker 4: Very good, Thanks you clarified. I just had to clarify

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Speaker 4: for you.

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01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 5: Nope, that's good.

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01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, I'm kind.

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Speaker 24: Followed by Chris Ryan.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Rod.

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01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 22: There's some experienced offensive tackles available right now in free agency,

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01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 22: has there been any thought to adding any of those guys?

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Speaker 5: And if not, then why not?

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Speaker 21: Ellie and I have those conversations all the time. We

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01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 21: actually we're going to meet today. We are always trying

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01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 21: to find ways to improve our roster and so that's

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Speaker 21: always under consideration.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thanks.

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Speaker 5: Chris R.

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Speaker 4: Want to drive.

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Speaker 16: From your standpoint right now, is there more concerned about

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Speaker 16: what you're seeing on the defensive side of the ball

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01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 16: or the offensive side of the ball. Where you kind

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01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 16: of felt like the defense was going to be an

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Speaker 16: integral part to winning this year and some of the

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Speaker 16: areas that you highlighted as being strengths, it seems like

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01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 16: you haven't kind of hit the mark tackling and getting

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Speaker 16: the ballicking turnovers.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, you know early in the season. You know, I

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01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 21: would say, just look at it from a quarterly review. Defensively,

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01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 21: we just haven't tackled well. We haven't kept a quarterback

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Speaker 21: in the pocket. There have been times where we've covered

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01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 21: well and also times that you know, it seems like

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Speaker 21: received our wide open. That's something that you know, we

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01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 21: just have to get better at. And really, you know,

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Speaker 21: Special Tims had a great game yesterday offensively and defensively,

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Speaker 21: we did not. And for this team to win games,

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01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 21: we have to be able to play well in all

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01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 21: three phases. And really, and I know you guys get

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01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 21: tired of me saying this, fundamental fundamentals. Fundamentals still continue

1587
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 21: to be an issue, and I'll continue to harp on it.

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01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 24: Followed our ti timents, Idrada wanted to ask about Jacoby

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Speaker 24: in his play yesterday.

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Speaker 5: It looks like by some of the people.

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Speaker 24: Who tracked how long you know it takes for the

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Speaker 24: quarterback to actually release the football, it was actually a

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Speaker 24: relatively quick day on average for Jacoby in terms of

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01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 24: how fast he was getting rid of it. But I

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01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 24: wanted to ask you what are you seeing from him

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01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 24: in that regard? Is he getting rid of it as

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01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 24: quickly as he needs to in your opinion after watching

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Speaker 24: the film from yesterday.

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Speaker 21: I mean, when you play a good defensive front, a

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Speaker 21: good defensive you know, defensive end, we definitely have to

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Speaker 21: get the ball out quick and that was part of

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Speaker 21: the game plan. And I'll tell you, guys, the game

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01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 21: plan is to run the ball and get the ball

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Speaker 21: out into the receiver's hands so they can make yards

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Speaker 21: after the catch.

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Speaker 4: So I think.

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Speaker 21: I think when you talk to Jacobe, he will always

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01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,919
Speaker 21: say that there's, uh, you know, a room for improvement,

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Speaker 21: and I feel the same way.

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Speaker 25: College coach, thank you so much for your time when

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Speaker 25: it comes to like line games. It feels like that's

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Speaker 25: been a pretty big issue for the offensive line. But

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Speaker 25: as a coach, when you're evaluating, what would you say

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Speaker 25: is the biggest reason for that? Because obviously there's been

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Speaker 25: so many different combinations and it's hard to see everything

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Speaker 25: through one set of eyes. So how do you evaluate that?

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Speaker 4: As a head coach?

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Speaker 21: You just answered it you should have put my hat,

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01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 21: put my hat on, but that but that's what it is. It's,

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Speaker 21: you know, it's those guys being able to you know,

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01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 21: having a consistent unit across the board and really seeing

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Speaker 21: the same thing happening through the same set of God

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Speaker 21: was I always talk about that and we just got

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Speaker 21: to continue to get better at it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Greg.

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Speaker 20: Just following up one thing on the radio, Kendrick Bourne,

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Speaker 20: start practicing wednesday? Is that the plan?

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Speaker 15: That's the plan?

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01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:20,879
Speaker 20: And Taki taki mapu, would they be ready to start wednesday?

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Speaker 20: Is that the plan for them?

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Speaker 23: We're going to have that conversation here today, so we'll see.

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Speaker 23: Thanks Mam Sophie Will Mornings.

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Speaker 2: I just want to h kind of take from what

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01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 2: you said on the radio and apply it here. Jacoby

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 2: is still your starter. Uh, but you have the right

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01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 2: to change change your mind at any point. Is that

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01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: kind of a message.

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01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 21: Yeah, And I'm not I'm not trying to send mixed messages.

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01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 21: And when I said you know the right to change

1640
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 21: my mind, I'm actually I'm talking about the entire herd

1641
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 21: A team. I said, you know, because the thing about it,

1642
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 21: I always reserve the right to make a change at

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01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 21: any given time. And so yeah, I don't want I

1644
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 21: don't want the fans or anyone to think, what is

1645
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 21: he talking about. Jacoby's one hundred percent our starter. He's

1646
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 21: one hundred percent our starter. And that's how we're gonna

1647
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 21: look into this going for okay.

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01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 5: And now great moments in.

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Speaker 15: History.

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Speaker 9: I just feel like you got to break them into

1651
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 9: a little ball busting when they're kids, right, Like you

1652
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 9: got to understand that, like you're.

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01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,799
Speaker 5: Gonna joke and I'm not like trying to hurt your feelings.

1654
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 5: You know, It's like we're kind.

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01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 4: Of I would kind of tell your coach I've got

1656
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 4: my eye on him. I'm watching him. It's like I'm

1657
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 4: not going to or And then I would say, yeah,

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01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 4: your coach asked me to come and you know, give

1659
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 4: a cradling clinic to the guys.

1660
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 5: You know, that's cradling clinic. Fred Connor was probably in

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01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 5: the back.

1662
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 4: Was really in the old house. I used to use

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01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 4: the shower downstairs, and that's where like he would watch

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01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 4: TV with his friend and so I come out with

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01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 4: a towel and like, you know, oh god, his friends

1666
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 4: would I go, uh, hey, Sean, did you get those

1667
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 4: tickets to the gun show? And you know, my son's

1668
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 4: just shaking his head because he knows it's coming. And

1669
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 4: the other kid just, you know, walk on.

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01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 9: It's a masterclass, a master class of dadding.

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01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 5: Right, I just walk out. I gotta I gotta start

1672
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 5: a little bit. That's another great moment from.

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Speaker 4: All right back here in Patriots Unfiltered. A five five

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1676
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 4: you just have a towel on the towel just to

1677
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 4: come walking out of the of the shower, just to

1678
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 4: the house. His friends are you know, all sitting in

1679
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 4: the couch watching TV and they come trapesing by Sean

1680
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 4: you get those tickets and like he's looking at me,

1681
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 4: like what mister to the gun show And like the

1682
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 4: other guys they laugh because they have to laugh because

1683
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 4: it's it's Connor's dad. But Connor's the only one just

1684
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 4: like shaking his You gotta do. It's your responsibility. I

1685
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 4: have to.

1686
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 5: Just my thought of Connor being mortified is what I'm there.

1687
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 5: I can I can totally experience the whole scene. Friends.

1688
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 4: Well, when when he would play Xbox and you know,

1689
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 4: you have your little set on and he's talking to

1690
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 4: his friends. I would walk into the the room where

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01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 4: he's playing and say, hey, Connor, Hannah Hannah Montana's on TV.

1692
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 5: You know he's oh you know that mine.

1693
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 9: I do the same thing Campbell on the Fight and

1694
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 9: I always do, Hey Campbell, I got your diarrhea medicine

1695
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 9: if you need it.

1696
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 5: Because they're such.

1697
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 4: Dads, Oh yeah, oh it's so fun. They deserve but

1698
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 4: they give us enough press.

1699
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 10: Let him play Fortnite in Piece or whatever the heck

1700
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 10: they play these days.

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01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 3: If that one, they're like a different you mover.

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01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 5: I think they still play Fortnite. I mean not my kids,

1703
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 5: but I mean younger kids. They still play. I think

1704
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 5: that game. I don't know, that's not a so Matt's

1705
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 5: a young kid.

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01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 4: Sure, Jeff and Cannon, Oh what.

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01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 12: Do you say?

1708
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:07,520
Speaker 6: Eminem's in Fortnite.

1709
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 4: Now MS character metaverse whatever?

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01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 26: Uh?

1711
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 4: Jeff and Canada. I've decided to just laugh about it now.

1712
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 4: He says, we're not an NFL team. Sure, we pay

1713
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 4: our membership fee and we're on schedule, but that's about it.

1714
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 4: We're shown only locally in the one oh five window,

1715
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 4: normally reserved for the likes of the Cardinals or Raiders.

1716
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 4: We are the league's get right game. If you're our

1717
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 4: next opponent and you see us on your schedule, you

1718
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 4: invite all your family and friends to that game because

1719
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 4: it's a good chance of victory. Even a terrible Miami

1720
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 4: team thinks it. So thinks to itself, this is our

1721
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 4: week to get right. I worry what this five year

1722
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 4: run of futility will mean for our beloved PU team.

1723
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 4: They have not declined. They have continued to shine, trying

1724
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 4: to put lipstick on a pig as they watch a

1725
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 4: nine year journeyman quarterback. By every definition, Paul Andy or

1726
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 4: Era have ever placed in the world try to fight

1727
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 4: the river of tides coming at him through our cork

1728
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 4: sniffing o line in hopes of completing an eight year

1729
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 4: forward pass circa nineteen thirty three. God help us all.

1730
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 4: I don't I don't really try to put lipstick.

1731
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 9: I'm just trying to make a little carnitis out of it,

1732
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 9: you know, Like I'm not trying to make it look pretty.

1733
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 9: I'm just trying to make it taste a little better

1734
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 9: than it seems.

1735
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 3: But I don't know, we've been watching it so bad

1736
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 3: for so long.

1737
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 10: I mean it is watching I think the toughest part

1738
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 10: as an offensive guy is just watching bad quarterback play.

1739
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 10: Like I just I can live with rookie bad quarterback

1740
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 10: play because at least we're building towards something. But just

1741
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 10: why it's been years of for between Mac in the

1742
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 10: last couple of years and now Bressett, Like it's at

1743
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 10: the point where you don't even know how much you

1744
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 10: should blame and how much like because it's just it

1745
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 10: all just is such a mess, and and so much

1746
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 10: of it is is just comes back to the quarterback,

1747
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 10: and it's just it's just tough to keep banging that.

1748
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 4: Richard says he's huge fan of the show and he

1749
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 4: just wanted us to say that it's his birthday. All right,

1750
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 4: Happy birthday, Richard, don't be a dick. All right, Let's

1751
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 4: get back to the tp X hotline. Uh Ay five

1752
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 4: five pats, five hundred. Rich We'll get to Patty and aga,

1753
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 4: what's up Patty? Patty? He's gone. All right, we'll go

1754
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 4: over to Florida. Dan's going back. What's up Dan?

1755
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 18: Hey?

1756
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 13: And you guys, Hey, bred I don't know if you guys, uh,

1757
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 13: you guys heard that from from Tret Johnson about.

1758
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 26: The how teams are trying to starting to mirror the

1759
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 26: Seattle Seahawks style they did in Week two where they're

1760
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 26: running a lot of spread and they're they're opening up

1761
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 26: the back, the back of the middle bool field because

1762
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 26: the Patriots just can't cover on defense and they just

1763
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 26: don't have, like you guys said that the horses at

1764
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 26: the great constant pressure. And I think a lot of

1765
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 26: these teams now watching the Patriots and they're making our

1766
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 26: making our defense one dimensional and we just don't have

1767
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 26: the talent. And it's it's crazy because last year we

1768
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 26: were we rode them the defense, even offense so terrible,

1769
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 26: and now we can't even do we can't even write

1770
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 26: on the defense.

1771
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 13: I think it's just pretty pathetic.

1772
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 4: It's a little disappointing. I agree, Dan, thanks for the call.

1773
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 4: I mean, we were hoping that the defense would keep games.

1774
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 5: I'll make a prediction. Yeah, Sunday you'll be talking about

1775
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 5: that again. Well, yeah, because that's when you talked about

1776
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 5: it last year. That's when it happens last year.

1777
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. So do you understand what Paul's point is, fans,

1778
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 4: because he was saying this last year that some of the.

1779
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 5: When they faced Gardner Minshew and Tommy DeVito and Mitch

1780
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 5: Trubisky and those guys are whoever who was the guy

1781
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 5: that they faced in the Steelers game. Yes, yeah, like

1782
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 5: you know, that's the defense was great. When was Josh Allen,

1783
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 5: it wasn't so great.

1784
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 4: But they had some other games against starting quarterback that

1785
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 4: at least they kept the game competitive.

1786
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 5: I mean, the first job, the first Chargers game, the

1787
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,719
Speaker 5: first Justin Herbert, Yeah that was only six to nothing.

1788
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 6: The first Buffalo game they beat Josh Allen.

1789
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 5: No, no, but not because of the defense.

1790
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 10: I mean, I thought the defense played okay in that game.

1791
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 5: But I mean, you want to shootout, it was like

1792
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 5: twenty nine to twenty six, or that's twenty seven. Yeah,

1793
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 5: it's the only game that Max Jones ever won when

1794
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 5: the opponents scored more than twenty points.

1795
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 10: Well maybe for the Patriots as a shootout, but I

1796
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 10: wouldn't call that.

1797
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 5: And I just watched the Lions and they got touchdowns

1798
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 5: in the last five minutes of the game that the

1799
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 5: defense and then Mac Jones went down the field scored. Yeah,

1800
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 5: that's why you won.

1801
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 9: Do you wonder though, if that's Bill, if that's I mean,

1802
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 9: do you feel confident that this will be the same

1803
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 9: defense that'll be able.

1804
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 5: To senday that quarterback? Yeah, I'm pretty sure they can.

1805
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 5: They can contain probably a special Tyler Huntleo Skyler Thompson,

1806
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 5: whoever they happen to see.

1807
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 9: But I do you think that's there's some signs that

1808
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 9: they miss Bill a little bit on defense?

1809
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 5: I think I think there are two. But I think

1810
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 5: Dan's point, like, I think the teams have sort of

1811
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 5: figured out you can throw on this team, and if

1812
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 5: you do that, you're probably gonna be able to move

1813
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 5: the ball, and the Dolphins won't be able to do that.

1814
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 5: I think the Dolphins only and we'll get to this

1815
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 5: more tomorrow. I would, you know, I guess, but I

1816
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 5: think if Miami wants to win and wants to try

1817
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 5: to score, they have two guys that are, you know,

1818
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 5: gonna be the two best players on the field when

1819
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 5: they're out there in Hill and Waddle. You got to

1820
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 5: go over the top and see if you can hit

1821
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 5: a player or two. You're not gonna do it consistently,

1822
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 5: like it might be one of those Tyler Huntley goes

1823
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 5: thirteen for twenty nine, you know, but maybe he hits

1824
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 5: two fifty yarders and you're able to score enough points

1825
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 5: to do it. He ain't doing it putting together twelve

1826
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 5: fifteen play drives the way Aaron Rodgers did a couple

1827
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 5: of weeks ago, and the way the Niners did was

1828
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 5: that ninety yard drive was like fifteen plays ninety yards.

1829
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 5: Like Purdy can do that, Tyler Huntley can't.

1830
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 10: I think the biggest thing to besides maybe the pass

1831
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 10: rush discipline like that Bill would have been Kean White

1832
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 10: and josh U j By now, like he wouldn't have

1833
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 10: let what happened on Sunday happen repeatedly multiple weeks in

1834
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 10: a row with the pass rush. But the biggest thing

1835
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 10: to me that they missed with Bill on defense is

1836
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 10: is Bill would have held his water a little bit

1837
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 10: longer with the run game against the lighter personnel. Like

1838
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 10: Bill would have said, you gained eight yards on this

1839
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 10: run play, gaining eight yards again, and gain it again

1840
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 10: and again, and by the second half if you're if

1841
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 10: you're averaging six yards of carry, like now, maybe we'll

1842
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,719
Speaker 10: adjust at halftime to what you're doing. But he wouldn't

1843
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 10: have said on that opening drive we couldn't stop the

1844
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 10: run on Nickel, so drive two, we're just gonna immediately

1845
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 10: go into base defense. He would have held his water

1846
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 10: a little bit longer and trusted it. So that's my

1847
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 10: pushback on like you know that you can throw on

1848
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 10: this defense. They threw on the defense against their their

1849
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 10: heavy personnel. If they had stayed in Nickel, I don't

1850
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 10: know if those opportunities would have been there to throw

1851
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 10: the ball as much as they were.

1852
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 4: Dance in New Jersey. What's up, Dan?

1853
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 12: Hey, gentlemen, it occurs to me I think you have

1854
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 12: far too many callers named Dan. But in any case,

1855
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 12: call me crazy, all right, Fred, call me crazy. Call

1856
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 12: me coming nuts.

1857
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 4: Just don't call me Dan.

1858
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,959
Speaker 12: Is this an opportunity for the much maligned pole Strange

1859
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 12: to be actually the key to sort of stabilizing the

1860
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 12: interior of the line or what?

1861
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 6: I don't think so, not anytime soon.

1862
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 5: He's not healthy.

1863
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 12: No he's not.

1864
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 6: Okay, No he's not.

1865
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,759
Speaker 12: How about Andrews. Do we have any word, either officially

1866
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:46,520
Speaker 12: or unofficially.

1867
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 4: No, I don't think from the indications I have, it's

1868
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 4: going to be at least a couple of weeks.

1869
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 5: Oh you do have, so Andrews. Okay, Yeah, No, we

1870
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 5: haven't heard anything. I haven't heard anything.

1871
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1872
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 5: It's another one of those things that you know, you

1873
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 5: don't share with us off air. That's just that I'm getting. Yeah,

1874
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 5: I think Cole Strange we've seen him in the locker

1875
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 5: room a little bit, but I do not get the

1876
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 5: impression that he is close. When Gerrodmeo was asked about

1877
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 5: some of those guys, he did say specifically that Bourne

1878
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 5: would practice on Wednesday, so that's tomorrow we'll see, you know.

1879
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,839
Speaker 5: I assume he'll be out there. He was less committal

1880
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 5: about Mapu and Taki Taki, who were you know? Some

1881
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 5: other guys. Strange really hasn't even been in the mix.

1882
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 10: Strange is yeah out, definitely still I would say, thanks Dan.

1883
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 4: I think the.

1884
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 9: Only thing I'm really thinking about was Strange, honest to god,

1885
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 9: is could he maybe be a backup center next year

1886
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 9: or you know, work at that position and see if

1887
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 9: he could provide some depth behind Andrews Is I think

1888
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 9: that's a long term.

1889
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 5: I mean, if he could play one of the guard spots,

1890
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 5: I'm fine with that. But the problem is tackled, like

1891
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 5: you know, whether it's City Show or Leyden Robinson at guard.

1892
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 5: I think they're going to struggle, They're going to make

1893
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 5: some plays, They're going to get better. They're young guys.

1894
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 5: They should get better, and I would. I know evn't

1895
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 5: had The stats on Robinson were ugly this week that

1896
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 5: that that group hasn't been good. There's nobody upfront that

1897
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 5: has played well on any kind of a consistent basis.

1898
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 5: I actually thought Michael Jordan was one of the better

1899
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 5: ones the first few games and then he gets hurt. Yeah,

1900
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,799
Speaker 5: it's not It's not an ideal situation. If Cole Strange

1901
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 5: can come back and physically step into one of those

1902
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 5: gud spots and he's better than so in in Robinson. Sure,

1903
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 5: I just don't think it's going to solve your problem.

1904
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 9: It's the numbers issue right now with Like I mean,

1905
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 9: we don't know what's going on with Wallace.

1906
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 4: He got carted off.

1907
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 3: Was that part of the injury you already had?

1908
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 4: Is this something new?

1909
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 9: I would expect Wallas to be so again, like you're

1910
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 9: now what Caleb Jones I think is the next guy,

1911
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 9: the next practice squad guy ups where you know, now

1912
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 9: we're going into the practice squad for for tackles who

1913
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 9: are are going to probably.

1914
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 5: Well, if you get Venerian lowback then be huge.

1915
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, but he's had a knee brace on and limping

1916
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,799
Speaker 10: around too. Like that's why I said at the beginning

1917
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 10: of the show that they need to call one of

1918
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 10: these veteran tackles, not just upgrade the position. They just

1919
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 10: don't have bodies like Caden Wallace. We saw him in

1920
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 10: the locker room with a boot and crutches after the

1921
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 10: game on his foot, you know, he and it didn't

1922
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 10: look like it was like, oh, out of precaution, we're

1923
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 10: going to put this on.

1924
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 6: It looked like he was struggling.

1925
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 5: My questions off the field, my question for that would

1926
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 5: be what Mike just brought up. Is it this the

1927
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 5: same injury that was exacerbated or is this something different.

1928
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 5: If it's something different, there's nothing you can do.

1929
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 6: So it sounded like it the original original injury was

1930
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 6: a knee.

1931
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 5: This was his. He had a walking boot on it.

1932
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:31,679
Speaker 5: They definitely announced ankles.

1933
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I would say different now.

1934
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 5: So if it's different, then that no further questions, Like

1935
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 5: football players play, Like if it was something that he

1936
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 5: was that he already had going into the game and

1937
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 5: now it's worse, I would question, especially as the extra

1938
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 5: alignment you had to do that, like he played like

1939
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 5: two snaps, three snaps? How many he couldn't have played

1940
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 5: too many? Like that? Was that important that you put

1941
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 5: someone who was physically already compromised in there? Like that

1942
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 5: would be to me worth second guessing.

1943
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Speaker 4: Ericson Connecticut, Hey, Eric, Hey.

1944
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:10,600
Speaker 15: What's up. Guys, Thanks for taking my call here. So basically,

1945
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 15: you guys were saying before the break out, we need

1946
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 15: to see Drake, or we should see Drake's sooner rather

1947
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 15: than later to see if we've actually got something in

1948
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 15: Jalen Polk and some of these other rookies. But basically

1949
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 15: it feels like I'm getting conflicting information. But like, for example,

1950
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 15: Phil Perry made a report that Bristte has the second

1951
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 15: most time to pass in the league up to this point,

1952
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 15: which I thought was interesting because when I watch on Sunday,

1953
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 15: you know, I see that the O line isn't great,

1954
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 15: but somehow Jacoby has time to pass and our receivers

1955
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 15: are open at least that's what you know, well what

1956
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 15: we can see like after the facts when they show

1957
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:53,480
Speaker 15: after the play, is it that for set doesn't see them?

1958
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 15: And like the stats so so like for example, Jalen

1959
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 15: Polk got targeted set and times but caughtless than half

1960
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 15: of them. I feel like he's getting his looks. But

1961
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 15: you know, like I guess my question here is like

1962
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:08,759
Speaker 15: who's who's really a fault?

1963
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 5: You know, like like why everybody? That's my answer, But

1964
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 5: like I just would be curious about Phil's report. Was

1965
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 5: he talking about Sunday or like for the for the

1966
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 5: season for September He's I can't imagine Jacoby Brissett's had

1967
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 5: the second most time to throw.

1968
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, but it's not time to throw meaning like pressure,

1969
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 10: like how long in the pocket? Is he not under pressure?

1970
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 10: He's talking literally time to throw, Like how how long

1971
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 10: is it from snap to the time that he actually

1972
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 10: throws the ball?

1973
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 4: What's the difference?

1974
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 5: Well, if he's scrambling around, right, so like you get

1975
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 5: pressured out of the pocket immediately.

1976
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 4: But that's what I mean, like if you're running around,

1977
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 4: it's not a fair comparison, but it's like it should

1978
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:55,679
Speaker 4: be time to throw before pressure.

1979
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, I agree, that's but what I'm right, What I'm

1980
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 10: saying to you is that the data that Phil was

1981
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 10: talking about is not that so we have other data.

1982
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 4: Was he making that point? Is the question?

1983
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 10: Well, it's just a lot of people look at time

1984
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 10: to throw numbers to how quick are you making decisions?

1985
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 6: How fast we getting the ball out?

1986
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 5: I would say like on Sunday.

1987
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 4: Especially in the first half, he had time to throw.

1988
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 5: I agree, And I think he was slide. I think

1989
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 5: some of the sacks that he took on sid I

1990
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 5: don't know if you want to put half of them

1991
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 5: were on Presett. Yeah, I had on Sunday. And you know,

1992
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 5: we go back to you know, you've got to be

1993
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 5: careful now, you know you're one in three, you know

1994
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 5: you're facing some adversity. You know you're starting to hear

1995
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 5: a lot of negativity from outside, and you've got to

1996
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 5: stay together. You know, we talked about the defense talking

1997
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 5: about just doing their job, jord Mayo saying, you know,

1998
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 5: we gotta we got to get some schemes that get

1999
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 5: the ball out quicker. And then like that's I don't

2000
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 5: think that's great. Like if you're talking about that within

2001
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 5: your walls, great, but like that to me can be

2002
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 5: perceived as a shot at Alex van pa and Jacoby Brissett. Yeah,

2003
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 5: I think he specifically said some of those were on perset,

2004
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 5: you know, the sex and I think you can say

2005
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:12,719
Speaker 5: that the offensive line was better than you thought without

2006
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 5: putting it on Persett.

2007
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 4: So let me let me ask you a question. If

2008
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 4: Mayo were to make the change, make the decision. Okay,

2009
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 4: this is the week we're going to start, Drake may

2010
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:24,639
Speaker 4: what day of the week would he make that decision.

2011
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 4: Would it be immediately after the game Monday or Tuesday?

2012
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,719
Speaker 10: I'd say at least by Tuesday, because usually the coaches

2013
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 10: meet on Tuesdays to set the game plan so that

2014
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 10: they can give it to the players on Tuesday night.

2015
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 4: So so that's what I'm thinking, Like, just just go

2016
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 4: with me. Here. Let's just say this is the week.

2017
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,719
Speaker 4: You know so far? He said, you know at this time,

2018
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 4: Jacoby is our quarterback.

2019
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 5: I think you'd know about it. But but I think

2020
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 5: I don't think you would set himself up to be

2021
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 5: diametrical what he said yesterday.

2022
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 4: No, but would he tell us before he told his coaches?

2023
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 4: And would today be the day he would tell his coaches?

2024
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 4: I think they Monday afternoon.

2025
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:03,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I mean I think that everybody would know.

2026
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 5: I don't think this is going to be one of

2027
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 5: those we're going to keep the identity.

2028
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't either.

2029
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 6: I think he went tomorrow.

2030
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 5: I think when he said yesterday that it's Brissette. I

2031
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 5: don't think that he today says, no, it's it's going

2032
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 5: to be May Okay. I don't think it'll be like that.

2033
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 5: I think Hill had the idea in his head, like

2034
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 5: there's a day and you know, maybe he's thinking to himself,

2035
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 5: this is it for Brissette. He doesn't show significant improvement

2036
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 5: when making the move, and then if he doesn't, then

2037
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 5: he knows. I think anybody else knows too.

2038
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 10: I just it just this is not going to get

2039
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 10: any easier than playing this Dolphins team at home on

2040
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 10: Sunday like that. This Dolphins team stinks, but they.

2041
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 5: Have to score any points to win the game. The

2042
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 5: defense hasn't been terrible.

2043
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 6: Their defense is like thirtieth in the league.

2044
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 5: And I know, but they're on the field the whole game.

2045
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 5: Like I watched that game last night. I mean, do

2046
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 5: you know that the tight Titans had six different scoring

2047
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 5: drives that traveled less than twenty eight yards? Like, you

2048
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 5: can't play defense like that. I'm sorry, you're going safeties.

2049
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 5: At the end of the game, they tried an on

2050
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 5: side kick and they screwed it up, so they allowed

2051
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 5: the Titans to take over on the ten yard line.

2052
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 5: That wasn't that bad of a defensive performance. You look

2053
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 5: and say thirty one to a winless Titans team, and

2054
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 5: you think they got killed. They didn't. I watched a

2055
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,440
Speaker 5: lot of that game because I was doing the matchups

2056
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 5: for the preview, and that defense, just that defense reminded

2057
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 5: me of the twenty three Jets. Yeah, and I'm not

2058
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 5: telling you there was talented is that because they're not. No,

2059
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 5: But that's what it reminded me of. They kept every

2060
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 5: time they went on the field. It was in Dolphins

2061
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 5: territory and they kept making full kick fifty five yard

2062
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 5: field goals like they were literally giving up like twenty

2063
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 5: yard scoring drives six of them. Six times they traveled

2064
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 5: twenty seven or less yards and scored. That's hard.

2065
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, that Dolphins team statistically is terrible. Is terrible, like

2066
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 10: one of the worst teams in the NFL.

2067
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 5: It is the lowest score. Think about how bad your

2068
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 5: offense has been and they're worse.

2069
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, with Tyreek Hill and Mike McDaniel, it blows my mind.

2070
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 4: Let's go back to the phones, Chris, Chris with a T,

2071
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 4: I A N. What's up Christian?

2072
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, how's it going good? So it is pretty frustrating,

2073
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 11: and I think the biggest thing for me and it

2074
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 11: just feels like there's no hope right now. You know,

2075
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:37,600
Speaker 11: every week that goes by, whether someone else gets hurt,

2076
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 11: or whether they get out coached, or whether they just

2077
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 11: flat out this week, just don't have the horses. Like

2078
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 11: Paul said on the postgame show, it's like we need something,

2079
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 11: and that's something is sitting on the sideline and he's

2080
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 11: the number three overall pick. You got to get him

2081
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 11: in there sooner rather than later and see what you

2082
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 11: got because right you set it off the top. We

2083
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 11: don't know what Polk can do, what Baker can do,

2084
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 11: what Douglas can do with with me.

2085
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 15: We don't know.

2086
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 11: And so I just as a fan, like I guess

2087
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 11: you know, three more formal much of this whatever it

2088
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 11: is like, it's it's maddening. It's maddening. Not as maddening

2089
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 11: as most on the pre and post game.

2090
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Okay, it's tough.

2091
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 11: He didn't know what Red Don't Fall was.

2092
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:33,839
Speaker 5: Wow.

2093
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:37,560
Speaker 11: He didn't know what Red Don't Fall was, Freddy.

2094
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 5: He didn't. He did embrace it though, when he heard

2095
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 5: the Twilight Zone jingle.

2096
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 4: All right, all right, thanks Christian. Christian is a super fan.

2097
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 4: And that reminds me when we were in uh, California,

2098
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,839
Speaker 4: one of our super fans, Armor took me out because

2099
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 4: in a place where near where he lives. And Sean

2100
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 4: and Vancouver joined us.

2101
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 5: You guys had next get to.

2102
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ed from Vegas joined us, uh, and we went

2103
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 4: to this place called b dot steak dot A. It's

2104
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 4: an A with a little B steak yeah, and boy

2105
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 4: was it. Yeah. It's in Campbell, California, Campbell B steak

2106
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:25,719
Speaker 4: A or a uh if you're ever in the area,

2107
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 4: check it out. It was unbelievable.

2108
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 10: We had a good time in San Francisco. Sounds not

2109
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 10: a good game baseball game, but yeah, baseball game. Golden

2110
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 10: Gate Bridge and over the bridge. We drove over the

2111
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 10: bridge and then we got out and there's like a

2112
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 10: lookout on the other side of the bridge, not in

2113
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 10: the San Francisco side, but like across the bridge, and

2114
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 10: Chris Cassidy you can throw him under the bus spent

2115
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 10: the entire Uber ride complaining that we were going to

2116
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 10: the Golden gate Bridge the whole time, and then he

2117
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 10: did a whole photo shoot with the Golden gate Bridge

2118
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:03,759
Speaker 10: in the background, and I finally got him to admit

2119
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:04,639
Speaker 10: that he had a good time.

2120
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 5: What's the complaint of going to see the Golden gate Bridge?

2121
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 4: It was usually it's fog covered.

2122
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 10: It was pretty far out of our way. We took

2123
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 10: like a forty five minute Uber to get there. But

2124
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 10: it was worth it.

2125
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 6: I mean, I had never seen the bridge, so I wanted.

2126
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 5: To Donald's on the way. Yeah, we went.

2127
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 4: To We got to go in and out in California.

2128
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 6: We went to We did for any one.

2129
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 5: Did you come with us when we went to Alcatraz.

2130
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 4: I went to Algatraz, but not with you.

2131
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 5: No, okay, I mean that that was great. That was

2132
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 5: a great trip.

2133
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 10: So could I I'll throw somebody else from the social

2134
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 10: team under the bus. We were supposed to go to

2135
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 10: Alcatraz and Neil Perry forgot to buy the tickets to Alcatraz,

2136
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 10: so we so we ended up having to pivot to

2137
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 10: the Giants game, which was a lot of fun too.

2138
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 10: But sure we saw Alcatraz from.

2139
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 4: My tickets for the Giants game were only like twenty

2140
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 4: three bucks or something.

2141
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 6: I think I think they were like thirty thirty bucks. Yeah, yeah,

2142
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 6: not too bad.

2143
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 5: To funke fun team good take Giants, fun team funny.

2144
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 5: Nice place had the fun non playoff team.

2145
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Eduardo writes in I just want to say I

2146
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 4: didn't come in to this game with high expectations. All

2147
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 4: I wanted to see coming out its progression. Didn't see

2148
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 4: much in any stage of the team defense was okay.

2149
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 4: Andre's fumble led me to constantly say ball better not

2150
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:22,719
Speaker 4: be out every time he carries the ball. One question,

2151
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:25,639
Speaker 4: anyone know why Thornton is still on the team taking

2152
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 4: up space. If you guys think that the younger guys

2153
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 4: aren't any better, But are they worse? Thornton is doing

2154
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 4: nothing okay, yeah, and Osborne invisible.

2155
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 5: Those two I would say are probably tenuous with their

2156
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 5: roster spots. You know, Bourne's going to get activated sooner

2157
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 5: rather than later. Yep. Someone's probably going to have to go,

2158
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 5: and it's more than likely it's not going to be

2159
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 5: a rookie. Yeah.

2160
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:51,640
Speaker 10: I mean, I have no idea what's going on in

2161
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 10: the practice field. I'll put that out there. But he

2162
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 10: only played fifteen snaps. But I saw more out of

2163
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 10: kash On Booty in those fifteen snaps.

2164
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 5: And I've seen and you know, I'm not a huge

2165
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 5: Kayshawn Booty fan, I haven't really seen a lot of

2166
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 5: explosiveness on the practice field. I would agree with that.

2167
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 5: I think when he's been on the field in the

2168
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 5: little short doses in these four games, he's generally noticeable,

2169
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:17,599
Speaker 5: whereas Thornton, who I thought looked much better in training camp,

2170
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 5: is virtually invisible throwing the game.

2171
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 10: So hey, gott opened a couple of times, had a

2172
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 10: few good run blocks on film.

2173
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 5: Also, i'd make that swap.

2174
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 10: I don't know how you look at it and say

2175
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 10: that Booty's the odd man out out of no way,

2176
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 10: like I think he's been better.

2177
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 4: Sean wants to know why does Paul still argue even

2178
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,559
Speaker 4: when he agrees that's what he does.

2179
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 5: Well, Well, I mean I do argue for sport, but

2180
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:40,719
Speaker 5: I would need a little bit more information.

2181
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, first, tim says arguments. If we start May and

2182
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 4: he struggles the rest of the year, are the fans

2183
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 4: blaming the team or throwing the kid under the bus?

2184
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 6: I'd say it'd be pretty split.

2185
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think you got to see what

2186
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 3: it looks like.

2187
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 5: Of course, what are the struggles.

2188
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 4: But I mean, well, trust me, if he if he

2189
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 4: has struggles, which I of course he will, there are

2190
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 4: people waiting in the bushes this year. Oh yeah, there

2191
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 4: will be. There will be people who say that now.

2192
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 5: But they're gonna blame They're gonna blame the regime for

2193
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 5: playing him too quickly. There will be very little blame

2194
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 5: of Drake May this year. I think that doesn't last

2195
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 5: for a long time.

2196
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 4: What about the people from North Carolina when we were

2197
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 4: thinking of drafting him. They will be on the phone, right,

2198
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:28,599
Speaker 4: But I'm they will be on the phone.

2199
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 5: Yeah you might, I'm not. Again, you always argue with

2200
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 5: me about this, Like when I say no, one will

2201
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 5: be saying that as if that means zero percent, like

2202
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,680
Speaker 5: zero point zero, right, Yeah, you're gonna get a call

2203
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 5: or two. I think Patriots fans. Patriots fans will be

2204
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 5: very patient once May starts to play. They'll accentuate the

2205
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,679
Speaker 5: one or two plays that are positive and talk about

2206
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 5: those and say, what would you expect from a rookie.

2207
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 5: He's just he's just learning, That's what I'm gonna now that.

2208
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 5: But that's but that will last this year. Like let's

2209
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 5: just say he plays last eight or ten games, that'll

2210
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:03,640
Speaker 5: that'll get you to this ship. Then they're gonna want

2211
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 5: to see progress next year. And if he continues to

2212
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:09,639
Speaker 5: make those same mistakes it's not taken the same way. Yeah,

2213
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 5: of course, then people will start to say, this guy's

2214
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 5: kind of looking like a bust. Yeah.

2215
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna say it's gonna be better, because to

2216
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 10: Paul's point, I thought it was gonna be better going

2217
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 10: into the season with perset and it hasn't been. But

2218
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 10: May is going to have those flashes of just the

2219
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:29,600
Speaker 10: physical ability that is, it's gonna make it more digestible.

2220
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,879
Speaker 10: Even if he does have some turnovers or rookie mistakes

2221
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 10: or whatever. You know, when he throws the one across

2222
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 10: his body forty yard forty yards down the field, and

2223
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 10: at least we're all gonna be right. Like to see

2224
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 10: the one that Josh Allen made the other day.

2225
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 5: Bounce, yeah, Michael, Michael tell you that the day I

2226
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 5: decided that Josh Allen can play was one of his

2227
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,720
Speaker 5: worst games. But it was one throw like that was

2228
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,639
Speaker 5: like whoa, And I was like, this guy's got something.

2229
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:57,840
Speaker 5: He's gonna get better because you know, now, listen, it

2230
01:44:57,840 --> 01:44:59,600
Speaker 5: would have been very easy for Josh Allen to just

2231
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:03,080
Speaker 5: continue to make those same, you know, kind of inaccurate throws.

2232
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:05,759
Speaker 5: He got more accurate. He still does stupid things, although

2233
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 5: he's really seemed like a cutting back on that. Give

2234
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 5: him this year so far. But do you remember that

2235
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 5: that Saturday game in nineteen Mike, your first year, that

2236
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:17,320
Speaker 5: throw he made at the end of the game that

2237
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 5: almost you know, they ended up getting down inside the

2238
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 5: ten yard line. Yeah here, and they got they got

2239
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 5: down inside the ten yard line, down seven, they didn't

2240
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 5: get in. Patriots held on. But I was like, what,

2241
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 5: this guy's got something he can This kid can play.

2242
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 4: Boston Cream is on the tput line. What's that Boston cream?

2243
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,680
Speaker 27: Ay, friend, you're old enough that you're probably one of

2244
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 27: the inmates at Alcatraz.

2245
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 4: I know I was next to Whitey.

2246
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 28: I only have one question and one comment here. First off,

2247
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 28: I think that Matt is doing a tremendous job on

2248
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 28: the post game. You'd never hear anything for me. And also,

2249
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 28: is there any way we could get kind of an

2250
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 28: all star show for PU We're talking Andy Megan, all

2251
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 28: the formers, and Eric. Well, Eric can stay off, but.

2252
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:14,120
Speaker 4: We could, I think possibly do that Farewell union for

2253
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 4: my Farewell show.

2254
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 5: We'll bring everybody. Yeah, I just assume it's happening at

2255
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 5: some point soon.

2256
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 4: Maybe we can have like the movie, you know how

2257
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 4: they do that and they bring everybody back in the

2258
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:29,679
Speaker 4: movie like Entourage.

2259
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, that'd be great bunch of cameos.

2260
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, it'd be so funny just to see, like Eric Simon,

2261
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 9: Eric has tracked with the Patriots, if anything like that.

2262
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 5: The question would be the first thing that you think of, Eric,

2263
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 5: when I'm going to I'm going to give you a name,

2264
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:47,719
Speaker 5: you tell me the first thing you think of. Okay,

2265
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, Drake May, Who who's that who's that.

2266
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 5: I do still watch the news.

2267
01:46:56,600 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 10: He covered the team for how long we'll cover is

2268
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:02,600
Speaker 10: kind of yeah, But you guys talk about it like

2269
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:06,959
Speaker 10: he like he hates football. I just I can't imagine

2270
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 10: doing this job for that long hating the sport.

2271
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:14,200
Speaker 4: He hated us, he hated his job, He hated me

2272
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 4: and you Yeah, well, but that paled.

2273
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 5: He hated anyone how much he hated.

2274
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 4: He hated anyone that challenged him. You guys, shut up

2275
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 4: for Christ's sake.

2276
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 5: So the big thing Evan was during COVID when we

2277
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 5: were doing shows from home all the time. And remember

2278
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 5: it was like late July when we signed a late

2279
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:38,679
Speaker 5: June When was it late June, July whatever? We signed

2280
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 5: Cam Newton, and Mike and I were talking as we

2281
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:44,559
Speaker 5: were starting to come back in, like, do you think

2282
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:45,879
Speaker 5: he knows that we signed Cam.

2283
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 4: Newton because he was on vacation it happened.

2284
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 5: And I think there was at least a fifty to

2285
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 5: fifty shot that he wasn't aware of it. Now he

2286
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 5: claims that he knew and you know everything, But I

2287
01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:00,080
Speaker 5: think it was a legit conversation. To be happy, I

2288
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 5: would have been on the phone whether or not whether

2289
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 5: or not he knew Emergency Emergency pod Evan would have

2290
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 5: been posting from his phone.

2291
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:13,639
Speaker 10: I posted from my phone from the Giants game roster

2292
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,879
Speaker 10: transactions on Saturday.

2293
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 5: I am not getting those, by the way, I have

2294
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:21,640
Speaker 5: to talk to somebody immediate relations. You're not on the

2295
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 5: distribution list just for that one, Sam, the release that

2296
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 5: comes out on Saturdays. Like a couple of weeks ago,

2297
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 5: Jabrill Peppers was added to the injury report on a Saturday.

2298
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 5: I didn't know about it.

2299
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 4: Get it?

2300
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 5: This week? Alex Austin was put on IR on a Saturday.

2301
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:41,680
Speaker 5: I didn't get it. You guys were just talking like

2302
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 5: usually I'd be like, when did that happen? Now they

2303
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 5: just start talking about things on the pregame show and

2304
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 5: I'm just like, Okay, I probably missed an email. I

2305
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 5: don't get them.

2306
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 4: Check your spam. Jerry's in Texas. What's up, Jerry?

2307
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 5: You wonder why I think this could be my last show?

2308
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 4: Jerry, Jerry, Hello, I'm here.

2309
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 14: Thank you for taking my call. Guys, can you hear me?

2310
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 11: Ye?

2311
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 15: Hey, I was just wondering. I don't know how much

2312
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 15: access you.

2313
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 14: Guys have to practices and stuff. But and obviously Coach

2314
01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:14,639
Speaker 14: Mayo was saying that they're scheming a short plays obviously

2315
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 14: game planning for last week's game, But is there any

2316
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 14: intentions on like pretty much making star out of our

2317
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 14: current receivers, Like you know, like obviously, when you have

2318
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 14: a good quarterback, you don't need a specific star like

2319
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 14: Josh Allen when he started out, he had step on dicks,

2320
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 14: but once he got really good, he wanted to spread

2321
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 14: the ball. But like first starting QB or for someone

2322
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 14: who's not that great, maybe having an intentional receiver to

2323
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 14: go to, like game plan for that intentional receiver to

2324
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 14: get more targets, get more touches, maybe d Mario Douglass,

2325
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 14: maybe some of our rookies. Is there any of that

2326
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 14: intention you guys see from Alex Dempel or from Coach

2327
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 14: Mayo on for the future for the rest of the season.

2328
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 4: Are you talking about like establishing a guy as sort

2329
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 4: of his bankie, is what you're talking about exactly?

2330
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, somebody somebody that could be a go to And

2331
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:06,720
Speaker 14: I know we have the talent. It's not that all

2332
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 14: the receivers are like bombs, but you know, if there's

2333
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 14: some intention, I feel like as a coach that should

2334
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 14: be there.

2335
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:16,720
Speaker 4: It's kind of it's kind of the tight end.

2336
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 5: I don't think they have a guy worthy of that.

2337
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 9: I would say they did target Polks seven times, so

2338
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 9: maybe that says something about either what they're seeing from

2339
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:27,680
Speaker 9: him or how they want to get him involved. I

2340
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 9: mean that seemed significant to me, and I thought two

2341
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 9: weeks ago would seemed more directed to get Douglas involved

2342
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:34,360
Speaker 9: a little bit, get him touches.

2343
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 5: And I think it'll continue to be that because I

2344
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 5: don't think they have a guy that is good enough

2345
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,040
Speaker 5: to dictate the ball should go to him three out

2346
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:44,639
Speaker 5: of every four times. Like I just like, by the way,

2347
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:47,719
Speaker 5: Josh Allen was a playoff quarterback before Stefan Diggs got there.

2348
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 5: Like it doesn't have to be the court, like they

2349
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 5: don't want to just about the receiver. But yeah, I

2350
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 5: think that they need it. You know, maybe it's going

2351
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:57,759
Speaker 5: to be Kendrick Bourne. You know, maybe in two weeks,

2352
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 5: you know, they'll be focusing on Kendrick Bourne instead of

2353
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 5: Jalen Polk and k j Osborne. I kind of agree

2354
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 5: with Evan on that too many third down throws seem

2355
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,560
Speaker 5: to be designed to go to k j Osbourne.

2356
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:17,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, I hear you the caller, but they don't have

2357
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 10: that receiver, like they're still looking for that that coverage

2358
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 10: dictating receiver. But I thought in the game, you know,

2359
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:26,040
Speaker 10: they ran some plays on third down for Hunter Henry.

2360
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 10: I definitely think that when they need to move the chains,

2361
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 10: like that's where they're kind of going.

2362
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 6: First and foremost with him.

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01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 10: And I was encouraged that they put Jalen Polk in

2364
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:38,639
Speaker 10: the in the first read in the progression a little

2365
01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 10: bit more this week or you know, kind of like

2366
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 10: in the middle of what they were trying to do

2367
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:46,679
Speaker 10: schematically with the concepts. So they're seeing that he's getting

2368
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 10: some separation on film, and they're kind of putting him

2369
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:50,840
Speaker 10: further up the package.

2370
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:52,800
Speaker 5: Like the back shoulder it was like twenty two yards

2371
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 5: down the sideline the Polk. I mean, I think that

2372
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 5: they should make I think that's they almost need to

2373
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 5: force Perset to do that, right instead of just saying,

2374
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 5: like broll, what did you see it?

2375
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 4: No, like just just get here's the read, get him.

2376
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,760
Speaker 5: The ball, put it in well not him, just specifically,

2377
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 5: just quick throat, like don't think, just throw it and

2378
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 5: see if you can make a play like even the

2379
01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 5: like the and I know it was kind of a

2380
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 5: Hail Mary esque play was fourth and sixteen or whatever

2381
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:22,639
Speaker 5: it was when the game was over. But like there's

2382
01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 5: no thought involved there. Just throw it up and see

2383
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 5: if one of you guys can make a play once

2384
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:26,920
Speaker 5: in a while.

2385
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, Presett splits like at two point five seconds, like

2386
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 9: under two point five seconds from this game.

2387
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 5: I think it splits.

2388
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 9: We're pretty good, you know, it's almost And then the

2389
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:36,680
Speaker 9: more it goes, the worse it gets. And it's kind

2390
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 9: of counterintruitive where you think that, oh, he's got time,

2391
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 9: he should be able to pick the it's not really how.

2392
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 4: Remember my coaching technique for the kickers where you know.

2393
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:48,720
Speaker 5: We're gonna we're gonna clean that up a little bit.

2394
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:50,720
Speaker 4: In his family, if he doesn't make the kick, I

2395
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 4: guess we're not. I was thinking what Jacobe up to,

2396
01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 4: like a shock thing, and if he doesn't get the

2397
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 4: ball out in a certain out of time, you just give.

2398
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 5: I just think that he doesn't trust what you see

2399
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 5: sometimes and the whole NFL Open thing for him is

2400
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:08,000
Speaker 5: a problem. I agree.

2401
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:11,599
Speaker 10: I think that's a I like the shock system they

2402
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 10: do got in practice, not shock them, but they put

2403
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 10: them on a clock. Yeah, and so no, but I

2404
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:18,439
Speaker 10: mean there has to be a consequence of pain.

2405
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 4: For not getting Yes, pain for not getting the ball

2406
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:21,759
Speaker 4: out of time.

2407
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 10: Well that you get shot a little bit different, but

2408
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 10: you got to learn.

2409
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, they do.

2410
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:29,600
Speaker 10: They will say, like, you know, we're going to go

2411
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 10: with a three second clock and if you don't get

2412
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 10: the ball out, we're just gonna blow a whistle and

2413
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 10: we're gonna like it's a sack.

2414
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and.

2415
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 4: It's just a whistle. I'm talking about a whistle and

2416
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:42,440
Speaker 4: a shock. You know. There has to be consequences.

2417
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:43,799
Speaker 6: You want them to torture.

2418
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:50,920
Speaker 5: No more hugs, No more hugs, No more hugs, Patty's

2419
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 5: what's Paddy?

2420
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 27: I love the idea of bred.

2421
01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 5: See.

2422
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 27: I just wanted to say, like, I hate saying this

2423
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,880
Speaker 27: because by all accounts, Kobe seems like a great guy,

2424
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 27: great teammate, great mentor. But going forward, look at the schedule,

2425
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 27: I'm not sure being in and he wins, I might

2426
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:14,600
Speaker 27: pencil them in because he can e raise them. But

2427
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 27: this week against Miami, Tennessee, Arizona, Jacksonville, those are quote

2428
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 27: unquote winnable games in my opinion, but not if we're

2429
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 27: throwing for more or less one hundred and fifty yards

2430
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:30,920
Speaker 27: a game, and thepposing defenses know that you're gonna want

2431
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 27: to run the ball, and they're load enough to box

2432
01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 27: against you.

2433
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 7: I'm done.

2434
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 27: I'm done with Jacoby. I want to see Drake mayplay.

2435
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 27: I mean, you see Jacoby a dad pressure and you know,

2436
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 27: void sacks and stuff. You know, maybe Drake takes off

2437
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 27: and runs for fifteen yards, or maybe he just doesn't

2438
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 27: hesitate and makes a throw.

2439
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 23: You know.

2440
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 27: I want to see this tam win more than one

2441
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 27: game this year because I love this team and I'm

2442
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:56,480
Speaker 27: gonna love him even if they do win one game

2443
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 27: a year. But this year, but I've just had it.

2444
01:54:59,400 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 27: I want them in.

2445
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 17: Came in.

2446
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 27: Let the kid get in there. Let him take his

2447
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 27: freaking lump. This line is gonna stuck for the rest

2448
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 27: of the year anyway. It doesn't matter. So just get

2449
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 27: him in there and be done with it.

2450
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 4: That's all we are now, editate us, right, that's what

2451
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 4: we should be all singing. That's Nirvana. You don't know

2452
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 4: from Nirvana.

2453
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 5: From Fred's version. I got it. It's just bad. I

2454
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 5: should talk. I have a terrible scene in Canada.

2455
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 18: Hey, guys are about to Drake May question. Something I

2456
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 18: think really hasn't gotten enough tension is the fact that

2457
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:51,200
Speaker 18: I think Elliott wolf has really failed to put Drake

2458
01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 18: me in a position where he can even come out

2459
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 18: and play or start for this season. I heard after

2460
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 18: the loss last night, lot of the there was a

2461
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 18: lot of commentary, you know, mate, we shouldn't put me

2462
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 18: out there. I think the fact of the matter is

2463
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:10,520
Speaker 18: that you'll see how many shots Jacobe's taking, and I've

2464
01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 18: heard comments even by our coaching staff that they sometimes

2465
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 18: can't believe how he just gets up after getting walloped

2466
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 18: or later May's going to end up being in that

2467
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 18: in that position. And the fact is that I don't

2468
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 18: think Elliott Wolfe has done very much to address that

2469
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 18: serious issue. Yeah, well, I like to hear your guy's

2470
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 18: thoughts on.

2471
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 4: Elliott wolf Yeah, Tony, thanks for the call. I've heard

2472
01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 4: that a lot of people criticizing Elliott Wolfe for not

2473
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 4: doing enough.

2474
01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 5: Have you heard they don't have a left tackle?

2475
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, not doing enough for the offensive line in particular. Yeah.

2476
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 5: Like I said at the beginning of the show, what

2477
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 5: they did to Demintre Jacobs to me was neglect, Like

2478
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 5: that's not fair. So if you have a kid, that

2479
01:56:56,000 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 5: they claimed off waivers to start the season, and four

2480
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 5: weeks later he's on the other side of Nick Bosa and.

2481
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:06,960
Speaker 4: How legends are born.

2482
01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know that's how you end up with

2483
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 5: a bunch of clips online of him not even getting

2484
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 5: a hand on those guys as they're going around the corner.

2485
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 5: And that's not his fault. That's not like it's it's

2486
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 5: just not his fault. It's like, it's not your fault's fault.

2487
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2488
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:24,720
Speaker 10: No, they're especially at the end of the game too,

2489
01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:27,080
Speaker 10: when they kind of had to go drop back and

2490
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 10: spread the field out. They really they they tried to

2491
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 10: help him as much as they could early on with

2492
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 10: chips and sliding protections and things like that, but at

2493
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 10: some point, when you get down like that, you just

2494
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 10: have to throw the ball get back in the game.

2495
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 10: And Bosa was just it was like he's going through

2496
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 10: a tackling dummy. It was kind of sad to watch.

2497
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 6: I agree with Paul.

2498
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 5: Like, he didn't even make my bad list. I didn't

2499
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 5: put him on that didn't I have a conscience, No,

2500
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 5: And it's just it's not his fault.

2501
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 23: No.

2502
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 10: When I the next Gen numbers right after the game

2503
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 10: were ten quarterback pressures allowed on the left.

2504
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:02,800
Speaker 5: Tack by him.

2505
01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 10: I mean, which is it ended up being seven when

2506
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:08,640
Speaker 10: I when I watched it back, But that's still very

2507
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,000
Speaker 10: high a lot of them, I think, Like yeah, and

2508
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 10: ev It's point like early in the game, when the

2509
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 10: whole game plan was still intact, and it's those those

2510
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 10: quick throws, the quick sprint outs, they were chipping and doing,

2511
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 10: you know, putting some extra attention, sliding the protections and whatnot.

2512
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 10: You can't do that when like it's third and five

2513
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:28,200
Speaker 10: and you can't just get six. You know it's third

2514
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 10: and five, but were down, you know, seventeen. We need

2515
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:33,720
Speaker 10: a chunk play here, and we just got to traditionally

2516
01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:35,840
Speaker 10: drop back like we like everybody else does.

2517
01:58:36,440 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 5: Now you can't give help. You got to get all

2518
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 5: five guys out in a route. Yeah, there wasn't wasn't

2519
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:42,240
Speaker 5: a fair fight.

2520
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 10: On a positive note, I thought on when who actually

2521
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 10: played probably his best game.

2522
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:47,120
Speaker 5: He was better. Yeah, he was bad.

2523
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:49,240
Speaker 10: He had Bosa and one on one a few times,

2524
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:53,400
Speaker 10: like okay, it was maybe fourteen one on ones with

2525
01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:55,520
Speaker 10: Bosa lost only one time.

2526
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 4: That's because of the feature that we did on Patriots

2527
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 4: dot Com about Big mic if you haven't seen it yet,

2528
01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:05,040
Speaker 4: you can check that out on YouTube or Patriots dot com.

2529
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:08,600
Speaker 4: But that's going to be it for the Tuesday edition

2530
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 4: of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow at our normal

2531
01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:15,840
Speaker 4: time noon. Good to be back on our regular schedule now,

2532
01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:18,320
Speaker 4: you know, not leaving Friday and all that stuff. We've

2533
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:20,800
Speaker 4: been a little out of whack the last couple of weeks,

2534
01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:24,400
Speaker 4: so it's a good point. But now we're back back

2535
01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 4: to Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Okay, all right, yeah, any other

2536
01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 4: program announcements I have to make? When is Catch twenty

2537
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 4: two this week?

2538
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 5: Thursday afternoon?

2539
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:37,839
Speaker 4: Thursday at four thirty.

2540
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:39,440
Speaker 6: We're locked into that time.

2541
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:42,320
Speaker 4: Okay, you guys are two to four? All right, sounds good.

2542
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:45,839
Speaker 5: All right, that's it, folks, turn the page tomorrow.

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01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:46,560
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