Speaker 1: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 2: What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 2: I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and welcome back, Welcome back,
Speaker 2: welcome back.
Speaker 1: It is here. Are you ready?
Speaker 2: The golf clubs are in the garage, the beach chairs
Speaker 2: are packed away, and it's time to get back to
Speaker 2: work football season.
Speaker 1: We have practice later this week.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be on that camp grind starting on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: but first to preview podcast Defense tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But beginning today, we're doing the.
Speaker 2: Entire offense, player by player, position by position, spelling it
Speaker 2: all out for you, providing a guide to training camp.
Speaker 2: Put this on on your way to Dolphins camp. Let's
Speaker 2: watch these guys get better and tune it up for
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five Miami Dolphins season, the sixtieth in
Speaker 2: franchise history. From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist
Speaker 2: Health Training Complex, this is the Draft Time Podcast. Hey guys,
Speaker 2: welcome back. In the last time I taped a podcast
Speaker 2: was quite frankly, I don't know, it's been a while.
Speaker 2: I do feel refreshed, I feel invigorated, and quite frankly,
Speaker 2: I am just jazzed up for football. I tend to
Speaker 2: be a little bit more excited when I feel the
Speaker 2: national narrative is off on this team, and this year
Speaker 2: I feel it is. I thought last year was pretty
Speaker 2: much on the no some concern, but still some belief
Speaker 2: the team could be a double digit win team, you know,
Speaker 2: under the guidance of Tua Tongua Vailoa, even with all
Speaker 2: the change in turnover. But he gets hurt and you
Speaker 2: know they don't meet that expectation. In twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: everybody was loving us and for good reason. Twenty two
Speaker 2: there was some hope and height, but still a question
Speaker 2: about Cantua maximize Tyreek and all that stuff. But this
Speaker 2: year it feels as though the narrative is this team
Speaker 2: is downtrodden, past the window to K of the roster,
Speaker 2: and on and on and on, and I just don't
Speaker 2: see it that way. I saw this tweet that was
Speaker 2: funny to me from someone the other day who said, well,
Speaker 2: this team isn't that much different. It comes down to
Speaker 2: Tua playing. But even last year when we were without
Speaker 2: two for six and a half games, we win eight
Speaker 2: and nine facing a murderer's row of quarterbacks. This year,
Speaker 2: it's not nearly the same. In terms of the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: We're not gonna go anywhere, but we could still maybe
Speaker 2: win eight games. Now, I agree with all of that
Speaker 2: until the m Night Shyamalan level twist at the very end,
Speaker 2: because like, all those facts are true, But then to
Speaker 2: say eight and nine, that doesn't compute to me, because
Speaker 2: if you get the quarterback healthy and you face the
Speaker 2: slew of quarterbacks, you know, in fact, let's go ahead
Speaker 2: and talk about that, that slew of quarterbacks before that
Speaker 2: Ravens Bills Commander stretch, which is going to be where
Speaker 2: I think teams or people's opinions on this team are
Speaker 2: going to be formed this season. Here's the quarterbacks we
Speaker 2: face before Lamar Allen and Jayden Daniels, Daniel Jones. Most
Speaker 2: likely it could be Anthony Richardson. You know, gold Jackie
Speaker 2: Green Jacket, Drake may at Buffalo is basically a scheduled
Speaker 2: lost every single year on a Thursday night in Buffalo.
Speaker 2: It feels like that's even more so if that but
Speaker 2: finding a win there be a pure bonus. But Daniel Jones,
Speaker 2: Drake Maye, Josh Allen, and then this justin fields, Bryce
Speaker 2: Young Herbo's pretty good Pickett, Shador or Flacco in Cleveland,
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix, tell me which of those quarterbacks we're going
Speaker 2: to lose to as long as we have two, Josh
Speaker 2: Allen maybe the Chargers. Other than that, Like, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna go crazy with predictions right now. That blew up
Speaker 2: in my face last year and the quarterback getting hurt
Speaker 2: for six and a half games, you know, over a
Speaker 2: third of the season didn't help that. But I do
Speaker 2: think this offense is going to be twenty twenty three good.
Speaker 2: And if we do that through the first eight games,
Speaker 2: you and I could play cornerback with this pass rush
Speaker 2: we have and a lead and we're gonna go eight
Speaker 2: to one. I'm just saying that again, not making predictions,
Speaker 2: but if you get that, you'll get the other part
Speaker 2: with it, a lot of fun football here in South Florida.
Speaker 2: With all of that is, go ahead and get into
Speaker 2: the offense, and I think is going to be very
Speaker 2: good this year. Here is how I constructed this podcast.
Speaker 2: I want to do each player kind of look at
Speaker 2: their peak of what they can be, kind of the
Speaker 2: questions around that player, and then what the expectations for
Speaker 2: them in general look like this season and we'll do
Speaker 2: that with each of the rooms as a whole as well.
Speaker 1: Sound good, cool quarterbacks too.
Speaker 2: I've been told that I'm crazy for this take, and
Speaker 2: perhaps the context I'm providing in this argument is where
Speaker 2: I'm coming up short. But I thought two of season
Speaker 2: last year, sans the games missed, was a more impressive
Speaker 2: display of playing the quarterback position than any other year
Speaker 2: of his career, and that includes the explosive twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two and twenty twenty three seasons. The Dolphins could not
Speaker 2: run the football after the Buffalo game last year.
Speaker 1: They couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: They replaced the run game with a screen game, so
Speaker 2: every single rep was a high leverage rep for your quarterback.
Speaker 2: And I thought the way he zipped through progressions influenced
Speaker 2: the coverage to free up space for runners underneath was
Speaker 2: the best display that he has shown of playing the position.
Speaker 2: I think that's why John Whu went from a career
Speaker 2: high and YAK yards of three hundred and sixty six
Speaker 2: in his career to five twenty one last year. Maybe
Speaker 2: a better way to convey that is that John Hu
Speaker 2: averaged two hundred and thirty five yards after the catch
Speaker 2: his first seven years in the league, So two hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty five yards per season through seven years, and
Speaker 2: he would more than double that as a Miami Dolphin
Speaker 2: at five twenty one. That's not the play, my guys
Speaker 2: like that. That's the scheme and the quarterback. And I
Speaker 2: say this as someone that thinks that John Who's one
Speaker 2: of the best runners after the catch in the league
Speaker 2: in a very damn good tight end.
Speaker 1: But the data is right there for you.
Speaker 2: This offense helped John wou become what he was, John
Speaker 2: who did not make this offense go to a different level.
Speaker 2: In fact, when you funnel the offense through the tight
Speaker 2: end position, you become like a twentieth ranked offense compared
Speaker 2: to being the best offense in twenty twenty three. And
Speaker 2: again the quarterback being hurt had a big part to
Speaker 2: do with that too. Don't get me wrong. The silver
Speaker 2: platter deep balls that flipped the field and the game
Speaker 2: and light the scoreboard up in twenty twenty three, all
Speaker 2: of that is fantastic. And you can't do better in
Speaker 2: terms of the box score and stats and the impact
Speaker 2: on games than that. Let's be perfectly clear about that.
Speaker 2: But I think there's less that goes into that than
Speaker 2: what Tua did last year with the coverages he saw.
Speaker 2: And this is why I just completely bypass what PFF
Speaker 2: tells you about quarterback play because they don't take this
Speaker 2: stuff into account. It's I literally as the guy that
Speaker 2: does it. And he said, it's all about depth of target.
Speaker 2: And that's absolutely insane to me because to me, getting
Speaker 2: a one on one look with Reakan Waddell and you
Speaker 2: have to identify it, you have to hold a safety
Speaker 2: and then fire an accurate ball forty yards down the field.
Speaker 2: But Tua does that all the time. I watch that
Speaker 2: in practice every day. I watched that across his Alabama
Speaker 2: tape for three years, just fawning over the tape. I
Speaker 2: saw it for years here with the Miami Dolphins. But
Speaker 2: I think the strain, the study, the mastery of the
Speaker 2: position that goes into picking apart umbrella coverages that reduces
Speaker 2: anything from a plus twenty yard box when you have
Speaker 2: zero threat of a run game. To do that, when
Speaker 2: guys are pinning their ears back and rushing at the
Speaker 2: first level, at the second level, they camp and coverage
Speaker 2: because they know they don't have to take a step forward.
Speaker 2: That's elite quarterback play man. Now I want to see
Speaker 2: those things married together in twenty twenty five, and that's
Speaker 2: how he become the twenty twenty three offense who becomes
Speaker 2: even better in short yardage, sustains possession longer, helps the
Speaker 2: defense out, and the run game is a big part
Speaker 2: of that. And that's why I think Tua is at
Speaker 2: his peak, a downfield assassin who can exploit the matchups
Speaker 2: when he finds them, but a meticulous profit taker while
Speaker 2: the defense plays way off the football protecting those deep balls.
Speaker 2: If we get those and the return of the running game,
Speaker 2: we will not be stopped. It's that simple, and we
Speaker 2: will roll through the first half of the schedule. Now
Speaker 2: the downside for the quarterback here, you guessed it. He
Speaker 2: misses a lot of games and the entire operation seizes
Speaker 2: up in his absence, and I would be surprised if
Speaker 2: any of that changed this year. So if he's out,
Speaker 2: all of your concerns, bring him on to me. Tell
Speaker 2: me I'm an idiot, because I am. If he goes down,
Speaker 2: But if he's up and playing, it's going to be
Speaker 2: totally fine. But he's gone out a lot, so I
Speaker 2: get the concern. I don't even have a middle ground
Speaker 2: with Tua. I think the big game environment is overblown
Speaker 2: and tends to isolate him from the other fifty two
Speaker 2: players that have made plenty of mistakes in those games,
Speaker 2: or the approach going into those games, like in the
Speaker 2: Buffalo games, when it's fourth and three on our own
Speaker 2: side of the field, we go for it and give
Speaker 2: Josh Allen shortfields. He does have to elevate his game
Speaker 2: a little bit more than he has. I will admit
Speaker 2: that the Houston game was dreadful, but he's also been
Speaker 2: aces in some of these big games. Just go back
Speaker 2: and watch that Eagles game in twenty twenty three or
Speaker 2: the first half of the Ravens game that year. There
Speaker 2: have been games Buffalo last year where he's done that.
Speaker 2: There's been games where he hasn't. But guess what, I
Speaker 2: know Kyle Krabs has done this study. Most elite quarterbacks
Speaker 2: are about fifty to fifty in those big games because
Speaker 2: guess what, it's really hard to beat really good teams.
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson at his peak is a talented creator who
Speaker 2: hopefully finds his home and a timing offense where he
Speaker 2: can sharpen that aspect of his game. But where can
Speaker 2: he get better? Well, it's just that playing within the
Speaker 2: contract of the offense.
Speaker 1: It was bad.
Speaker 2: In spring ball, it was not. It was hard to
Speaker 2: watch at times, and again McDaniel mentioned this. We've I've
Speaker 2: heard Oja mcduffee talk about this, like, don't you know,
Speaker 2: don't make final evaluations on a guy who's throwing to
Speaker 2: receivers for the first time, like it it's not fair
Speaker 2: in this offense to do that.
Speaker 1: But I also have the Jets tape.
Speaker 2: I also have the BYU tape, and it has to
Speaker 2: be better to inspire any hope for me there, and
Speaker 2: I will give the benefit of doubt for the time
Speaker 2: that requires to make that happen. But if I'm you know,
Speaker 2: predicting this, I just think I don't think he even
Speaker 2: lands in the middle ground there. I don't think it
Speaker 2: pans out. I've been wrong before, but I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: to see it before I believe it. In this offense,
Speaker 2: quinn ewers, it's a copy paste. I'd be surprised if
Speaker 2: it's more than a practice squad quarterback who takes a
Speaker 2: year to learn the offense. He does have some familiarity
Speaker 2: in the system because a Steve Sarkizian system, But that
Speaker 2: was a big struggle for him in college too, So
Speaker 2: the entire room has to up their level of what
Speaker 2: Tua does to make this offense click. In the event
Speaker 2: that Tua goes down as a whole, it just comes
Speaker 2: down to the health of a quarterback. Right if he's
Speaker 2: out there, we win thirty eight and twenty four as
Speaker 2: a starter. A top twelve quarterback to me, at worst,
Speaker 2: I know everyone else seems to not think that way,
Speaker 2: but I don't care what everyone else thinks. That's probably
Speaker 2: going to score twenty eight points per game when he's available.
Speaker 2: When he's down, we struggle to find thirteen points per game.
Speaker 2: So you do the math on that. Let's go ahead
Speaker 2: and do running backs before our first break. Here, Devon
Speaker 2: a chan We've seen the flashes of his brilliance and
Speaker 2: a scat role and at times in a featured role
Speaker 2: last season. At his peak, I think he's Reggie Bush
Speaker 2: or maybe even Jamiir Gibbs, an electric change of pace
Speaker 2: option that can flip the game. That's probably disingenuous to Gibbs.
Speaker 2: Gibbs of every down back, but Devon's also added to
Speaker 2: his skill set where he's better than Gibbs as a receiver,
Speaker 2: like his progress last year I thought was really impressive.
Speaker 2: I think he's only going to increase that this year.
Speaker 2: He can play from more alignments. He can run true
Speaker 2: receiver route from slots and flex out of alignments. I
Speaker 2: think that just having a better understanding of all those
Speaker 2: roles could make Devon a pretty deadly player in his
Speaker 2: third year. Where he struggles, and this gets overlooked by
Speaker 2: some identified by others, is reading blocks, finding his track,
Speaker 2: anticipating and identifying angles in the running game where that
Speaker 2: cutback lane is where to find the tough yards because
Speaker 2: he was always searching for home runs last year. He's
Speaker 2: talked about that. He's talked about the coach just telling
Speaker 2: him how much yards he left in the field. I
Speaker 2: think he'll take that coach into heart and come back
Speaker 2: and refocus that energy. I think he's a great football player.
Speaker 2: But those decisions and negative runs killed the offense last year,
Speaker 2: especially when we didn't have two in the passing game
Speaker 2: that Seattle game. They were in plus position all game long,
Speaker 2: and then with lose yards on first down runs because
Speaker 2: Devon wasn't seeing it. And I'm going to be transparent
Speaker 2: about that. I think you need to be You need
Speaker 2: a one Bee to help shoulder that load, and with
Speaker 2: Raheem's injury last year and then fumble issues and you know, disgruntledness.
Speaker 2: I suppose it's a good way to put it, like
Speaker 2: it just didn't come for him last year. And you
Speaker 2: know Jalen Wright's greenness, you know he wasn't I don't
Speaker 2: think ready for primetime as a rookie. We just didn't
Speaker 2: have it in twenty twenty four. I think that's what
Speaker 2: we'll get from Devon in twenty twenty five. Sparse out
Speaker 2: his role to more of a utility player that is
Speaker 2: your lead guy, but he does multiple things and get
Speaker 2: more true touches and carries from other guys like Jalen Wright.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Right, I think his vision and explosiveness, decision
Speaker 2: making and conviction at the line of scrimmage, at the
Speaker 2: point of attack, and the power he has to push
Speaker 2: through arm tackles is what I love about his game.
Speaker 2: I think he's a really good zone runner with speed
Speaker 2: to burn and power. He hits the line with that
Speaker 2: conviction and often shoots out the other side. We talked
Speaker 2: about an all training camp, we talked about it all spring,
Speaker 2: we saw it in games last year.
Speaker 1: I think he's a special talent at his peak who
Speaker 1: could win.
Speaker 2: That'll be the lead ball carrier by the end of
Speaker 2: the year, provided everything goes how I think it can
Speaker 2: with a chance evolution as a route runner and pass catcher.
Speaker 2: Where Jalen can get better is just process in approach.
Speaker 2: I think we've seen that in the spring. McDaniel talked
Speaker 2: about it got the orange jersey with his focus. Let's
Speaker 2: hope that continues. But I have huge hopes and expectations
Speaker 2: for twenty five this year.
Speaker 1: Oli Gordon.
Speaker 2: I think you just plug in that twenty twenty three
Speaker 2: tape where he's catching swings, running away from defenders, bowling
Speaker 2: people over high, hurling defenders, and being a Dope Walker
Speaker 2: Award winner.
Speaker 1: I mean he was not.
Speaker 2: It was a possible top fifty pick going into the year,
Speaker 2: and he didn't go into the one fifties. Had a
Speaker 2: down year last year for sure, But it's really tough
Speaker 2: for me to forecast this where he'll be, given his
Speaker 2: position in the pecking order as a rookie. You know,
Speaker 2: if it didn't happen for Riot last year, I shouldn't
Speaker 2: expect it to happen for somebody else. Because it's a
Speaker 2: tough offense to get down, but I think the potential
Speaker 2: is high end, and I don't think there's anything worth
Speaker 2: pointing out in the contrary yet. I think with this
Speaker 2: Dolphins backfield, like hopefully you can just keep on drafting
Speaker 2: guys in the late rounds and develop them. By year
Speaker 2: two or three they takeover and you just keep on
Speaker 2: turning out this position without having to pay it. Maybe
Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll see how that goes, but they
Speaker 2: have a bunch of irons in the fire right now.
Speaker 2: Alexander Madison, he's not an imaginative runner or a big
Speaker 2: play guy, but he does play behind his pads with
Speaker 2: a pension to take on contact in the short yardage game.
Speaker 2: Ideally he can be your hammer in those situations. But
Speaker 2: I also think there's a big disconnect in terms of
Speaker 2: what fans believe in what is reality with being like
Speaker 2: just a short yardage specialist. Like if you're lose Haka
Speaker 2: Polite as the fullback, fine, but as a running back,
Speaker 2: it tips your hand and it tells the defense what
Speaker 2: you're doing. If he can't catch a pass, if he
Speaker 2: can't run outside zone, like, you can't just be one
Speaker 2: dimensional playoffense and expect it.
Speaker 1: To be a good thing, Nate Nole.
Speaker 2: He needs to be a special teams monster to find
Speaker 2: his way under the roster right the rookie, the undrafted rookie.
Speaker 2: I think his most likely path is the practice squad
Speaker 2: and a late season call up who does that type
Speaker 2: of stuff special teams work. I would just tell him
Speaker 2: to watch savon achmed tape. Alec Ingle at his peak.
Speaker 2: He's a hammer of a kickout, lead block and wide
Speaker 2: zone guy that escorts the backs to big plays. I
Speaker 2: love what Coach talked about with his game in terms
Speaker 2: of the angles of blocks and how he makes it
Speaker 2: better for other guys when you plug on the tape
Speaker 2: and you can see it because it's a constant landmark
Speaker 2: shifter for the defense when you get Alec aligned all
Speaker 2: over the formation. I thought he struggled to see it
Speaker 2: at times last year, and perhaps the injury and missing
Speaker 2: some practice time contributed to that. But my expectations that
Speaker 2: he gets it back on track this year. The room
Speaker 2: as a whole has so much potential and a diverse
Speaker 2: set of skills. To me, it depends on two things,
Speaker 2: Devaughn's continued evolution, but more importantly, Jalen Wright's development that
Speaker 2: allows Devon to be fully utilized the way I think
Speaker 2: he can be best. Let's go ahead and take our
Speaker 2: first break rate there, come back and do receivers, tight ends,
Speaker 2: and offensive line all that. Next Draft Time podcast, brought
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Speaker 2: the quarterbacks, and the running backs. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 2: go out wide to as Ojai McDuffie would say, the
Speaker 2: what oats Tyreek Hill? Oh what Tyreek? Who are you
Speaker 2: going to be? I don't really think this needs to
Speaker 2: be like a dissertation. I will say I think the
Speaker 2: fact that he's getting faster at thirty one, drops some
Speaker 2: weight and really focused on his speed. I mean that's
Speaker 2: where guys games like go to die, right, They fall
Speaker 2: off a cliff when they lose a step, and he's
Speaker 2: not doing that. He's actually gaining steps at age thirty one.
Speaker 2: It's pretty impressive. A ten to one at thirty one
Speaker 2: is it's pretty damn crazy. Plus my idea, well not
Speaker 2: my idea. I mean Kurt Warner was the one that
Speaker 2: I watched and got this concept front and I've seen
Speaker 2: it from other former quarterbacks turned analysts to point this out.
Speaker 2: With Tyreek and JT. O. Sullivan being one of them,
Speaker 2: is the details in his routes. He's explosive, He's a
Speaker 2: game changer. He is so sharp in terms of maximizing
Speaker 2: every single step and every single movement to create the
Speaker 2: most space he can. He changes the way teams cover us,
Speaker 2: and he opens up our entire playbook with routes that
Speaker 2: we can't throw to other guys. Now, if he's being
Speaker 2: a bad teammate and he's not on the practice field,
Speaker 2: not in his playbook, not on top of his stuff,
Speaker 2: not run on the right routes, how many times have
Speaker 2: we heard that three years in now, And that's kind
Speaker 2: of a long time to know an offense and not
Speaker 2: run the right route. Still, then it becomes like a
Speaker 2: net detriment like it was last season because it was
Speaker 2: last year, right, especially at that cost, the most volatile
Speaker 2: asset on the team, maybe in the league. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think he'll be on his best behavior this year.
Speaker 2: But I say that like the guy and the meme
Speaker 2: that you know, I say that like the guy and
Speaker 2: the meme that drops the what is it?
Speaker 1: The is it a crab or something into a boiling.
Speaker 2: Pot of water, just like Scared his Hell of the
Speaker 2: explosion if any of the measurements are off. That's kind
Speaker 2: of how I feel about this, Like I'm optimistic, but
Speaker 2: I'm dropping that thing into the boiling water and we'll
Speaker 2: see what happens after that. Jillen Waddle I think is
Speaker 2: the most underrated player on the team at this point,
Speaker 2: which is kind of crazy we got here. But he's tough,
Speaker 2: he's quick, exceptional route runner who can attack leverage and
Speaker 2: get to where you were trying to take away his
Speaker 2: part of the field. Just go watch who Tua goes
Speaker 2: to on third and seven, Like there's a trust, there
Speaker 2: a chemistry, and it's because he knows how to get
Speaker 2: open against those coverages designed to take him away. Now,
Speaker 2: there's two things I think Jalen needs to harness this year.
Speaker 2: The hands, which you know, all the best guys if
Speaker 2: you go look at a list of the most dropped
Speaker 2: in the NFL every year, it's always the best receivers
Speaker 2: because well there's a high volume of balls going to
Speaker 2: those guys, so there's going to be more drops. But
Speaker 2: he has definitely dropped more than he should have. And
Speaker 2: then just staying on the field, like he's tough and
Speaker 2: doesn't miss much time. He can play through stuff, but
Speaker 2: he gets banged up and miss his practice time. We
Speaker 2: got to be on the grass. I've been talking about
Speaker 2: that since twenty twenty three, and you know, last year,
Speaker 2: four days into the regular season, our quarterback went down
Speaker 2: and it made it tough to get to that point
Speaker 2: after a you know, pretty non intense training camp, like
Speaker 2: we've got to be on the grass. I think he's
Speaker 2: ready for a twenty twenty two type of year. If
Speaker 2: he can do that, he's awesome. It's up to us
Speaker 2: to get him there. In my opinion, Nick Westbrook akine
Speaker 2: the way I think he can make our offense flexible
Speaker 2: to look like various groupings through his skill set. To
Speaker 2: me as a cheat code, I can break the huddle
Speaker 2: with Reek Waddle Westbrook and you know Faroh Brown for instance,
Speaker 2: and I can be just as effective running eleven personnel
Speaker 2: out of that group of players as I am in
Speaker 2: twelve personnel where Nwi becomes the second tight end because
Speaker 2: they just didn't use him to kick out the backside
Speaker 2: contained player in Tennessee. They let him up into the
Speaker 2: sea gap is the focal point of the running game,
Speaker 2: and he caught nine touchdowns on thirty two catches a
Speaker 2: ridiculous percentage. He has an ability to get on top
Speaker 2: of favorable matchups, high point the football, and just do
Speaker 2: a little bit of everything we really haven't had at
Speaker 2: the position. They've done this, They've tried this with you know,
Speaker 2: Trent Sherfield, River Craiycraft, Odell Beckham Junior. To a certain extent,
Speaker 2: I think Westbrook a Keene can do all those ancillary
Speaker 2: roles that you need from that third receiver behind Reagan Wattle.
Speaker 2: He's a role guy, so I think he becomes one
Speaker 2: of your top If he becomes one of your top
Speaker 2: two in case of injury, that's not like great, like
Speaker 2: you can get by with it, but it's not ideal.
Speaker 1: That's the downside of it all.
Speaker 2: But we know that Reak and Waddle they don't miss
Speaker 2: many games, especially Reeke playing through some of the stuff,
Speaker 2: and you know Waddle's done that as well. I think
Speaker 2: he's going to be an unsung hero of this team. Westbrook,
Speaker 2: Akeene Bleak Washing to me is a screen game buster.
Speaker 2: It both is a pass catcher and blocker, return man specialist,
Speaker 2: quick uncover inside against man coverage, which you're gonna get
Speaker 2: plenty of if you're in this offense, you can trust
Speaker 2: him to be where he's supposed to be all block
Speaker 2: his butt off. I think he's LJ McDuffie, and if
Speaker 2: you put you know, Irving Fryar and mark Ingram alongside him,
Speaker 2: he can feast. He's not very explosive, he's not going
Speaker 2: to split doubles, but he's probably always a number three
Speaker 2: in this offense. But that's pretty damn good for a
Speaker 2: six round draft pick. My expectations that he makes like
Speaker 2: forty catches, but like twenty seven of those are critical
Speaker 2: plays in big moments, and then who makes a team
Speaker 2: beyond those four those are the four locks to me,
Speaker 2: let's go ahead and rapid fire.
Speaker 1: The receiver group.
Speaker 2: Taj Washington elite speed and ball tracking skills down the field,
Speaker 2: but tiny frame and didn't even survive spring ball last year.
Speaker 1: DS Gridge.
Speaker 2: I think he's a perfect backup to Malik in terms
Speaker 2: of some of the Jets sweep stuff he can do
Speaker 2: and kind of some of the you know, short like
Speaker 2: drag routes and crossing routes that he can run and
Speaker 2: he can take a few of the snaps from Tyreek
Speaker 2: is a similar body type and play style. If Riet
Speaker 2: goes down to try to find ways to, you know,
Speaker 2: fill out that role in the aggregate. I think he's
Speaker 2: a nice utility option who has a good chance to
Speaker 2: make this roster. Eric Azuokama, to me, is one of
Speaker 2: the most frustrating pieces of the roster because he's so
Speaker 2: damn talented. I just don't think he kills it in
Speaker 2: the classroom. He's kind of viewed as a bonus to
Speaker 2: me at this stage of his career because we saw
Speaker 2: the flashes, but they have gone by the wayside since then.
Speaker 2: And then the Rookies Andrew Armstrong, massive frame, enough juice
Speaker 2: in the hips to get open. I'm intrigued by him,
Speaker 2: probably more than the others. I think THEOWIESH Junior is
Speaker 2: another big body, but it takes a while for that
Speaker 2: barge to turn around there a little bit. Aj Heading
Speaker 2: is a slot option, return man type of guy who
Speaker 2: has some wiggle, but nothing's super crazy. Tarik Black another
Speaker 2: big body, heavy footed type of guy. And then Monterey
Speaker 2: bald Win or four to two speed, but he's like
Speaker 2: my weight, so you know, it's tough to make a
Speaker 2: living in at that size. I think the room is
Speaker 2: currently the deepest and most diverse it's ever been, but
Speaker 2: I can see how it quickly would get thin if
Speaker 2: you lose one of the top two. It's deep to
Speaker 2: replace three and four, but replacing one and two really
Speaker 2: digs into that depth.
Speaker 1: Some teams do go six or seven deep.
Speaker 2: I think we're four deep with four really important core
Speaker 2: guys again who you can find the roles of the
Speaker 2: three and four should they go down. But you have
Speaker 2: to identify two more guys in camp, and I think
Speaker 2: we can do that. But let's be blunt, like this
Speaker 2: offense has to go back to funneling through ten to seventeen,
Speaker 2: not a tight end in the running back these top
Speaker 2: two wide receivers. Speaking of tight ends, Farrell Brown at
Speaker 2: his peak, he's an ass kicker of a run and
Speaker 2: pass pro blocker who can sneak past the defense for
Speaker 2: the occasional big play, who can also drop the shoulder
Speaker 2: and run through tackles. I think those days of the
Speaker 2: explosive plays are probably in the rear view mirror.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm gonna bite my tongue.
Speaker 2: On that, but I think the point of attack stuff
Speaker 2: is very much still in tune there. If he can
Speaker 2: do that and catch some of those release valve checkdowns
Speaker 2: and give us first downs that way, post up on
Speaker 2: hookup routes and shield defenders, then it's a massive win.
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a better version of
Speaker 2: what Julian Hill has been for us. Speaking of Julian,
Speaker 2: I think he just needs to polish everything up, like
Speaker 2: become a better player in your third year through the
Speaker 2: progress that you've made from all the reps and experience
Speaker 2: you have. The flashes as a blocker are really good,
Speaker 2: but there's also like a lot of you know, abhorrent
Speaker 2: misses in there as well. If he can play on
Speaker 2: time better and have better pre snap discipline, which again,
Speaker 2: like it's a tough position. Man, he's constantly changing his landmark.
Speaker 2: He's moving in motion and shifts, and he has to
Speaker 2: like kind of you know, have a checklist pre snap
Speaker 2: and the way the quarterback does. But I think he
Speaker 2: can be a valuable fifteen snap per game type of guy.
Speaker 2: I think he's a better option in what Durham Smyth's
Speaker 2: role should have been when he was the two and
Speaker 2: three As that fifteen snap type of guy per game player,
Speaker 2: I think you reduce the need to have him out
Speaker 2: there in eleven personnel with the Pharaoh Brown signing, but
Speaker 2: he's probably top choice for the second tight end twelve
Speaker 2: personnel for me with Pharaoh Brown unless Darren Waller comes
Speaker 2: in here, and that's my next guy I'm talking about here,
Speaker 2: comes in here and just becomes what he used to be.
Speaker 2: That would change the entire dynamic of the offense, because
Speaker 2: I think he's basic, you know, Nick Westbrookakine juiced up.
Speaker 2: If he is that player, I think it's you know,
Speaker 2: he can block out you know, nickel corners and safeties
Speaker 2: and really be a matchup nightmare on those guys. I
Speaker 2: think it's fair to question though, like what are you
Speaker 2: getting from this player in terms of desire and in
Speaker 2: what is left in the tank from a skill set
Speaker 2: standpoint because he missed a year of football. But then also,
Speaker 2: you know, we talk about matchups for the rest of
Speaker 2: the offense that they get because of Freak and Waddle,
Speaker 2: we haven't had someone that has proof of concept in
Speaker 2: that type of role, like we haven't Darren Waller, not
Speaker 2: like Beckham wasn't that Westbroo Kakinne hasn't shown that in
Speaker 2: his career. Darren Waller has had some crazy, crazy productive
Speaker 2: years in that role. But again, I said the exact
Speaker 2: same thing about Obj. We haven't had this type of
Speaker 2: guy in the offense, you know, in this offense in
Speaker 2: the past, and it didn't work at all, and probably
Speaker 2: for similar reasons like where's the passion and love of
Speaker 2: the game and all that stuff. Now, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to like say it's a question for Darren. I don't
Speaker 2: know him at all, but I think it's like one
Speaker 2: of the surface level questions that's fair to to pop
Speaker 2: up right away. But I'm so intrigued by what he
Speaker 2: looks like come training camp. Tanner Connor just has to
Speaker 2: be healthy, right, I mean, it's it's been he hasn't
Speaker 2: been on the field, and that's what it comes down to,
Speaker 2: because he's got nice speed. He's a good seambuster, special
Speaker 2: team cover guy, just hasn't been on the field. Jalen
Speaker 2: Conyers to me is like your option to you know,
Speaker 2: if Tanner goes down again to kind of replace that role.
Speaker 2: I'm keeping a super close eye on him all camp
Speaker 2: because the movement skill set two sixty seven is very,
Speaker 2: very intriguing. Although I suspect he might test better than
Speaker 2: he plays, we'll find out. And then Hayden Ruccie is
Speaker 2: like a Julian hill Light to me, he needs to
Speaker 2: take a big step to crack this roster. This is
Speaker 2: the only position on offense that I don't think is
Speaker 2: going to be like awesome. Like, I think it's good enough,
Speaker 2: especially if Waller can be a matchup piece in a
Speaker 2: passing game. But I think it's good enough with what
Speaker 2: you have in the rest of the offense, especially like
Speaker 2: when you're not considering the tight end position a box
Speaker 2: score watching position like they're going to be, you know,
Speaker 2: a six offensive lineman half the time, and guys that
Speaker 2: do things in the route game, in the passing game
Speaker 2: to kind of clear up space. And you know, I
Speaker 2: will say this until I'm blue in the face. John
Speaker 2: Oops is a really good football player and the Steelers
Speaker 2: are lucky to have him, But funneling this offense through
Speaker 2: that position was a net negative for this team. And
Speaker 2: I'm cool with supplementing him at the old figure he
Speaker 2: got on that nice team friendly contract, but getting that raise,
Speaker 2: that was the right move to me to collect a
Speaker 2: pick for him and look elsewhere. Let's take our last
Speaker 2: break right there, come back and talk about the big
Speaker 2: uglies up front on the offensive line. Draft Time podcast
Speaker 2: brought to you by Auto Nation. One of the funnier
Speaker 2: things to me of the entire offseason. And look, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to sit here and say the cornerback room
Speaker 2: is gonna be all pro or anything close to that,
Speaker 2: but I do think it's funny how much how much
Speaker 2: I read about the need for offensive linemen and to
Speaker 2: focus on the offensive line. And here we are, one
Speaker 2: year after giving Aaron Brewer a nice contract in the pivot,
Speaker 2: one year after extending Austin Jackson to a healthy contract
Speaker 2: at right tackle but also team friendly for his production,
Speaker 2: one year after drafting Patrick Paul with the top sixty
Speaker 2: pick in the draft, and now we have a pretty
Speaker 2: big investment at guard in James Daniels eight million bucks
Speaker 2: per year and trading up for another guard, and Jonas
Speaker 2: savit Naya got it locked in. And they did that.
Speaker 2: They did what everybody asked them to do about. You know,
Speaker 2: we're not concerned about the offensive line or like whatever
Speaker 2: all the commentary is.
Speaker 1: They went out and they did that.
Speaker 2: They provided you know, they put a lot of assets
Speaker 2: into the offensive line. And I don't read about that.
Speaker 2: I don't read about the applause. All I read about
Speaker 2: is the lack of cornerbacks that you have on the roster,
Speaker 2: and I just I think that's kind of funny.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit funny.
Speaker 2: Not saying that you guys are wrong about the cornerback room,
Speaker 2: but I think it's kind of funny because this offensive line,
Speaker 2: to me, has a lot of potential and it starts
Speaker 2: with Patrick Paul. I think he has like potential to
Speaker 2: be one of the best players in the league at
Speaker 2: his position.
Speaker 1: Will he become that, we'll see.
Speaker 2: But in terms of the way he works, the mindset
Speaker 2: he has, and the physical traits, it's all there.
Speaker 1: It's up to him to put together.
Speaker 2: He has so many wins where his technique isn't even
Speaker 2: that good or special because he just has rare traits
Speaker 2: and size that allows him to win because of that,
Speaker 2: and his technique has come a long way, and I
Speaker 2: think the way he works and develops that under Butch Berry,
Speaker 2: with the reps under toront Armstead last year, the expectation
Speaker 2: should be one of the mainstay left tackles in this
Speaker 2: league by this time next year, going into his third season.
Speaker 1: Now, if that doesn't.
Speaker 2: Take and he can't get it right, it'll come with
Speaker 2: some bad losses and some hits in the quarterback, but
Speaker 2: I don't expect that to happen. I think Miami has
Speaker 2: the left tackle of the future in Patrick Paul Jonah
Speaker 2: savity Naya. I think we're gonna look back at Jonah
Speaker 2: as one of the best rookies we've seen on this
Speaker 2: team in a long time. I think he's an ass
Speaker 2: kicker at the point of attack, exceptional mover out in space,
Speaker 2: great technique. I don't have any notes I talked about
Speaker 2: him and they run up to the draft. I think
Speaker 2: he's a really, really good player. Aaron Brewer. Same is
Speaker 2: true with him, even if he's undersized for the position.
Speaker 2: He needs help on the bigger nose tackles, but that's
Speaker 2: true of every center. The same is true of Connor Williams.
Speaker 2: I think he's a pro bowler. Should have been last year,
Speaker 2: can be this year. Get him in space and allows
Speaker 2: you to really maximize your misdirection game because he can
Speaker 2: bluff and then get out in either direction in a hurry. Again,
Speaker 2: if there's a downside, it's the size, but the overall
Speaker 2: expectations that Brewer kind of makes this offense go in
Speaker 2: the pivot. James Daniels, another really good athlete with really
Speaker 2: good technique and plenty of power for the position. He
Speaker 2: was my O line one for us this offseason when
Speaker 2: we got him. The concern is going to be the
Speaker 2: injury and coming back from that. But I think that
Speaker 2: he Brewer Austin Jackson can really help fill that leadership
Speaker 2: void left by Tron Armstead. I'm so pumped about the
Speaker 2: additions of him and Jonah. Those were the two guys
Speaker 2: I highlighted that we got him, and I can't sit
Speaker 2: here and be mad about that when they get the
Speaker 2: guys that I wanted. I talked for months about those
Speaker 2: two players and we got them. So I'm pumped up
Speaker 2: about the offensive line. And then Austin Jackson. We've gone
Speaker 2: over his the Dolphins numbers like one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: three yards per game in the running game before he
Speaker 2: got hurt down to seventy two after he got hurt.
Speaker 2: Like it that was the difference, and I think if
Speaker 2: Austin had better health the last couple of seasons, we'd
Speaker 2: be talking about him as one of the better right
Speaker 2: tackles in the game of football. Awesome combo blocker surge
Speaker 2: in the power run game not an elite one on
Speaker 2: one pass protector, which I think kind of is where
Speaker 2: some of the negative reputation comes from at times for Austin.
Speaker 2: But he scraps his way to wins. He finds a
Speaker 2: way to get the guy in the ground or around
Speaker 2: his quarterback. He gets beat, you know, twice a game,
Speaker 2: and that's maybe like one hurry or maybe a sack
Speaker 2: or a hit on Tua and then Tua masks the
Speaker 2: other one. And I just I think that sometimes the
Speaker 2: rep can look bad, but he finds his way to
Speaker 2: wins and his value in the run game and being
Speaker 2: a net positive and pass protection, that's exactly what this
Speaker 2: offense needs.
Speaker 1: And Austin Jackson's a big part of that.
Speaker 2: And I think he's a great leader, a great articulate
Speaker 2: teacher of the position, just a really really cool guy
Speaker 2: to cover and be around. And he's a good football player.
Speaker 2: Larry Boram, I think is going to be the swing tackle.
Speaker 2: And even though I think the system suits him way
Speaker 2: more than the Chicago one did. I liked him better
Speaker 2: at guard. For US you need three good tackles. Does
Speaker 2: Miami have that in Borham? I think it's fair to
Speaker 2: wonder that the tape in Chicago was not great, but
Speaker 2: I think you can see it translatable to this offense.
Speaker 2: Miami's gonna have to find out if it's him or
Speaker 2: somebody else, because you're going to play a third tackle
Speaker 2: at some point. It's how this league goes. Liam Ikenberg.
Speaker 2: I love Liam as my eighth as much as I
Speaker 2: may he don't like him as a starter. Is that
Speaker 2: fair to say? He's tough, he knows the system. He's
Speaker 2: a decent guard. I'm not crazy about center or tackle,
Speaker 2: but because he can play them, he's got value there
Speaker 2: because as your eighth guy, if you're gonna lose two
Speaker 2: guys in a game, he needs an eighth guy that
Speaker 2: can step into any position and help you shuffle the
Speaker 2: offensive line. He's also a great locker room presence, a
Speaker 2: very likable dude, and good mentor for the younger guys
Speaker 2: because he's doesn't let much bother him. There's a certain
Speaker 2: temperament to leam Miichenberg that I really admire. And if
Speaker 2: you push back on me on that, I'm going to
Speaker 2: tell you to shut the hell up because you're not
Speaker 2: around the guys and you don't know it the way
Speaker 2: I know it. And that's That's kind of what I
Speaker 2: have to pull here because I know that there's a
Speaker 2: lot of pushback on this player, but trust me, he
Speaker 2: is a valuable asset in terms of the way he
Speaker 2: approaches the game and his professionalism to the younger players
Speaker 2: on this team.
Speaker 1: Keon Smith.
Speaker 2: I think Keon can make Liam the eighth with a
Speaker 2: good camp and the concerns coming off the ACL obviously,
Speaker 2: but it was last August, so he gets, you know,
Speaker 2: a full twelve months of recovery time. I expect him
Speaker 2: to make a jump in his second year in terms
Speaker 2: of conversion work to the guard position. This offense loves
Speaker 2: to move tackles to guard right. He's got an exceptional
Speaker 2: first step and can really get out on the combination
Speaker 2: blocks and climb to that second level. Andrew Myers kind
Speaker 2: of the last of the I don't want to say proven,
Speaker 2: but I mean he was on the roster for the
Speaker 2: entire year last year. A guy that we've seen play
Speaker 2: and have some proof of concept. I thought there was
Speaker 2: some very good tape in the preseason at the guard
Speaker 2: position sum at center as well, but the evaluation is
Speaker 2: far from over. I'm going to keep a close eye
Speaker 2: on him both in camp, and in the preseason games.
Speaker 2: Brandon Daniels is a smooth moving big fella on the outside.
Speaker 2: I think he has a chance to crack the roster
Speaker 2: with a good training camp. Jackson Carmen, I mean, the
Speaker 2: Houston game was tough, and he's gonna have to kind
Speaker 2: of overcome the perception of that to make a run
Speaker 2: at the roster. Ryan Hayes, the production that guys have
Speaker 2: gotten on him in springball is alarming, so we'll look
Speaker 2: for a big jump for him in training camp and
Speaker 2: then the three UDFA Josh Prebay some real tough nose
Speaker 2: reps there at Michigan with a power run game. I'm
Speaker 2: curious to see how he can convert those skills to
Speaker 2: this offense because there's something there with how he plays
Speaker 2: the position. Addison West is a really good mover. I
Speaker 2: think he's developmental center type of player in this offense.
Speaker 2: But he's just three hundred and five pounds, but he's
Speaker 2: pretty quick. And then Ted Kushy, I gotta be honest
Speaker 2: with you, guys, I never got around to watching him,
Speaker 2: so I will wait until I watch him on the
Speaker 2: field for the Dolphins. He did get the notes a
Speaker 2: couple of days at spring ball. But I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: sit here like I'm a ted cushy expert. I think
Speaker 2: it's fair to be concerned about the depth of this group. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: but I think the one through five is, if not
Speaker 2: the best, as good as it's been since pre Isaiah
Speaker 2: win injury. But even then, like you know, people are
Speaker 2: gonna say, well, you lost arms set down to Patrick
Speaker 2: Paul bro we scored sixty one points against the Chargers
Speaker 2: and Patriots without teesteat in either of those two games.
Speaker 2: In the first two games of twenty twenty three, everybody
Speaker 2: was I remember there was a guy tweeting about the
Speaker 2: season being over because Armstead got hurt, and then we
Speaker 2: scored thirty six against the Patriots, like it's it's fine,
Speaker 2: It's it's fine. I think the tackles are gonna be
Speaker 2: really good. I think the guards are gonna be really good.
Speaker 2: I think Brewer is awesome. But the depth is a
Speaker 2: little bit concerning. I think that that fact has often
Speaker 2: forgotten about. If we lose one guy, I think you
Speaker 2: can so a couple of guys. It starts to get
Speaker 2: thin there. But I'm confident in Patrick Paul. I've been
Speaker 2: over the loss in the run game production pre and
Speaker 2: post Jackson injury. Brewers the man, but tried this on
Speaker 2: for size for the guard positions. I'll close with this.
Speaker 2: So Rob Hunt was three hundred and twenty five pounds
Speaker 2: coming out of University of Louisiana Lafayette. Pretty damn good athlete.
Speaker 2: There was no workout metrics due to COVID, but you
Speaker 2: guys saw what he could do. He was a dominant
Speaker 2: hooper in high school. You saw him get out in
Speaker 2: space in this offense. Isaiah Webb also no workouts because
Speaker 2: he got hurt his last year at Georgia. But again
Speaker 2: another three hundred and twenty five pound guy that you
Speaker 2: saw what he could do in space and how his
Speaker 2: size made him a tough code to crack. And pass
Speaker 2: protection at that left guard position. Well, we know James
Speaker 2: and Jonah have the size and mass in the pass
Speaker 2: pro down lock. Just watched Jonah's work as a college
Speaker 2: tackle and pass protection and watch James Daniels do anything
Speaker 2: and the Steelers with the Bears before that, and they
Speaker 2: go three thirty five and three twenty five, And what
Speaker 2: I'm saying is they are very similar players in terms
Speaker 2: of the skill sets and the size and the athletic ability.
Speaker 2: When we were five to one with both those guards
Speaker 2: in the lineup, scoring thirty seven points per game and
Speaker 2: running for one hundred and eighty one yards per game.
Speaker 2: When we lost Isaiah Win for the rest of the
Speaker 2: season and Rob Hunt got hurt two weeks later, we
Speaker 2: had games scoring seventeen, thirty, one, fourteen, and twenty points
Speaker 2: to follow that with forty five, seventy eight, one, seventeen,
Speaker 2: and ninety nine yards rushing in those four games. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying there's a lot of comparisons Isaiah Win and
Speaker 2: Rob Hunt to James Daniels and Jonah Savit Naya all
Speaker 2: thanks told. It's no secret I'm super bullish on this offense.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be very good and hopefully
Speaker 2: good enough to make opposing offenses one dimensional that allows
Speaker 2: us to tee up our pass rush a lot. I
Speaker 2: expect this group to score no less than twenty eight
Speaker 2: points per game this year.
Speaker 1: That is how I see it.
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