Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast starting a bunch of nerds
Speaker 1: who never played an eco football. Welcome back to another
Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is
Speaker 1: Dan Hansis and I am joined interroom filled with heroes,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys?
Speaker 1: And Hey now Wednesday show, my favorite show the week.
Speaker 1: Totally false uh introduction by Matt money Smith. No, they're
Speaker 1: starting to be a little edge to these I think
Speaker 1: the money thing, the fact that we're not paying him
Speaker 1: and haven't paid him in five years, it's starting to
Speaker 1: come to a head and never will pay him be factual.
Speaker 1: Though we did play some of us and you know,
Speaker 1: while we're on the topic, movie sticks. Uh put out
Speaker 1: that fake news video about a trip to England and
Speaker 1: and if you're aware of the um our podcast handles
Speaker 1: and move the sticks, he apparently is a podcast here.
Speaker 1: I was not aware of that. Uh. He he was
Speaker 1: spreading falsehoods in England that we're not well known. Um
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the video Matt money
Speaker 1: Smith clearly DJ had gotten him drunk because you see
Speaker 1: the drink in his hand. Yes, Money looks a little woozy.
Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. In their first class flight, uh,
Speaker 1: money threw us under the bus at the end. So
Speaker 1: what let's let's start connecting some dots here. That's all
Speaker 1: I think. We have to realize we probably don't have
Speaker 1: any friends in the building at all, and we just
Speaker 1: have to operate as a foursome with um Erica as
Speaker 1: our only ally, although I don't really know if we
Speaker 1: can trust Erek either. Well Erica edited the video that
Speaker 1: move the sticks. Well, that's what I mean, that's slightly
Speaker 1: what was that? What was up with that? Listen? Shadowy
Speaker 1: League figures came downstairs and they slapped it on my
Speaker 1: desk and they said, do this if you want to
Speaker 1: keep working here and working with you guys. So sometimes sometimes,
Speaker 1: you know, I have to do some things that that
Speaker 1: I don't want to. But you know, Ricky is a businesswoman.
Speaker 1: You give her the money, she'll uh, you know, she'll
Speaker 1: put up some propaganda. We've got a few of those
Speaker 1: people anything, And I know what it's like in this building.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get a phone call from a Shadow League
Speaker 1: figure and they tell you something and you know it's wrong,
Speaker 1: but what can you do. Ultimately you're under the thumb
Speaker 1: of you know, big football. Yeah, that's our life. But
Speaker 1: we sold drawn because we're proud. Can't pretend you're not
Speaker 1: company men when you're taking cash from the company, you can't. Um.
Speaker 1: Thank you by the way to Christopher w at sing
Speaker 1: for the day on Twitter. Him and his buddies from
Speaker 1: his fantasy league sent like an assload of Lacroix to
Speaker 1: the office. And uh for those of you um that,
Speaker 1: Um I believe. Oh Dan, you know he doesn't like
Speaker 1: to leave the country. He's you know, xenophobic. I have
Speaker 1: a new favorite flavor, flavor of Lacroix SERESI the amone.
Speaker 1: So how about that megalomanian American viewpoint? That ain't us
Speaker 1: of a This is like the third shipment of products
Speaker 1: you've received over the years. At least you gotta sent
Speaker 1: him in toast crunch Regkin Lacroix. It's a pretty good
Speaker 1: side business I got working. Um, today's show, we have
Speaker 1: a lot of news to get to, so thank you
Speaker 1: to Christopher and his buddies. That was very kind of you. Um,
Speaker 1: we got a lot to get to, a lot of news, trades,
Speaker 1: possible trades. In fact, this is kind of our trade
Speaker 1: episode because we're gonna go through what's going on in
Speaker 1: the league right now, and then a little later in
Speaker 1: the show, we're going to fire up our trade probability
Speaker 1: machine and throw out some trade possibilities and compute them
Speaker 1: and see if there legit, if there's something I could
Speaker 1: happen ahead of next week's trade deadline, which I believe
Speaker 1: is oct. Are you going to explain why said machine
Speaker 1: is named Bridget? We will get to that, uh in
Speaker 1: due time, But yes, the machine is called Bridget. It
Speaker 1: was a piece together from mostly old computer parts found
Speaker 1: in dumpsters, like from the eighties and early nineties. Those
Speaker 1: dumpsters have not been emptied. It's still that's trash pick
Speaker 1: up issue in city places. But yeah, Erica actually proved
Speaker 1: yourself to be quite a tech a techie if you will,
Speaker 1: piecing together Bridget. So thank you for that, Erica, You're
Speaker 1: welcome doing that on your off hours. After you did
Speaker 1: the r j v P show, you then actually the
Speaker 1: jess Nick and Rosenthal Vanity Project. Now the name is
Speaker 1: j V Junior Vice President. I don't know. I feel
Speaker 1: like you had a chance to really build your brand,
Speaker 1: and you you now reset the brand. It's good to
Speaker 1: just mix, keep people on their toes mix it up?
Speaker 1: All right? So we got a lot to get to
Speaker 1: and uh, let's start by doing some news. Maybe I'm
Speaker 1: just not up with the times. But but who listens
Speaker 1: to podcast? Come on, now you are? You aren't making
Speaker 1: enemies right now, I'm gonna pull some strings. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get you on some podcasts going forward. I've done. I'll
Speaker 1: just never listen to one. Okay, I mean, Troy, could
Speaker 1: you could you be anymore of a dinosaur? Cool? Take? Bro?
Speaker 1: Nothing nobody has any anything. I really have been a
Speaker 1: huge Troy Aikman fan, and this was a jarring comment
Speaker 1: from him. Uh, he's just simply not with the times
Speaker 1: on any level. If he thinks that, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: get an attraction with like a shocking take from Troy Aikman.
Speaker 1: Like he's still like anti online shopping, you know what
Speaker 1: he's like. It's like, I'm gonna buy my jeans in person.
Speaker 1: I don't need to do Let's go to computer. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna use one of those computers to do that.
Speaker 1: I like to feel in my hands before I buy
Speaker 1: those rankers. I take it easy on the Information super
Speaker 1: Highway is dangerous out there, all right. Here we go.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the first big domino to fall this week.
Speaker 1: Uh Amari Cooper, the wide receiver. UH former first round
Speaker 1: pick traded from the Oakland Raiders to the Dallas Cowboys. Uh.
Speaker 1: There was a report from rap Sheep last week that
Speaker 1: the Raiders were seeking a first round pick that was
Speaker 1: kind of in the in the football technacin the poo
Speaker 1: pooed a little bit. Uh. Oh, there's no way you
Speaker 1: can get a one for Cooper, but they did because
Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboys in desperate need of a playmaking wide
Speaker 1: receiver go and get a Mariy Cooper. They give up
Speaker 1: their first round pick, a first round pick that could
Speaker 1: be quite valuable. Chris Westling, if the trajectory of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys doesn't change, which is a five hundred or sub
Speaker 1: five hundred team, could end up being a top fifteen,
Speaker 1: top twelve pick, something like that. West did you like
Speaker 1: this trade from the Cowboys perspective? I did, um. I
Speaker 1: don't think we always have to think of it from
Speaker 1: a general manager's perspective. I think of it from a
Speaker 1: person who watches the Cowboys every week. This makes them
Speaker 1: a better team, a more watchable team, a more fun team,
Speaker 1: and a team that can go deeper into January now
Speaker 1: that they have an outside receiver. Um we I don't
Speaker 1: know why a Mari Cooper disappears so often. He's not
Speaker 1: a consistent player, but he does have nine games of
Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty or more yards since he entered
Speaker 1: the league, which is nine more than Dez Bryant had
Speaker 1: since two thousand fifteen. I think this is a much
Speaker 1: better receiver than what the Cowboys are used to in
Speaker 1: the last few years. I think he's obviously talented, but
Speaker 1: it's it's not a short trend of him not producing.
Speaker 1: It's the last twenty plus games. So you just wonder
Speaker 1: wonder why that is. But you're right the Cowboys. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys often see these guys that other coaching staffs or
Speaker 1: organizations can't get the most out of, and they think
Speaker 1: that they're going to turn them around. The track record
Speaker 1: on that, whether it was Roy Williams t o on
Speaker 1: wide receiver trades mixed, but it makes them makes them better.
Speaker 1: I don't really trust them to draft a better ride
Speaker 1: receiver than that. Look at the receivers that have been
Speaker 1: drafted the last four years in the first round. More
Speaker 1: than more than not are significantly worse than Marie Cooper.
Speaker 1: And if you're in the end, if you're a fan
Speaker 1: in the NFC East, all these Giants fans I know
Speaker 1: are absolutely upset right now because they're watching their team
Speaker 1: just gut the roster. We're in Dallas. They're saying to
Speaker 1: their Cowboys fans, We're not giving up on this season
Speaker 1: at all. We had a legit weakness at wide receiver.
Speaker 1: We did everything we could do address that. We believe
Speaker 1: you can get into the playoffs in the NFC and
Speaker 1: it changes the entire kind of vibe of your season
Speaker 1: in Dallas, which felt to me a little bit hopeless
Speaker 1: at that position. The Giants sold their fan base and
Speaker 1: themselves on the idea that they were just a couple
Speaker 1: of pieces away, and that blew up in their phases.
Speaker 1: This year, we'll see if this actually helps the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and takes their offense to the next level. Uh. Speaking
Speaker 1: of Daniel Jeremiah, he had tweeted earlier this week that
Speaker 1: he didn't think there was the same level of explosiveness
Speaker 1: for Marii Cooper in the last year or two. Uh,
Speaker 1: and his numbers back up that type of claim, so
Speaker 1: that he's gonna need to kind of rEFInd whatever he
Speaker 1: had in those first couple of years in Oakland for
Speaker 1: the strade really to make a difference. And and it's
Speaker 1: a it's a Cowboys move. They're often making short term moves,
Speaker 1: so yes, it doesn't make them better. I think Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones wants to keep Jason Garrett employed. He the last
Speaker 1: thing he wants to do is fire Jason Garrett. Gives
Speaker 1: him a better chance to make the playoffs and do that.
Speaker 1: But it is kind of a general trend for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys that you think about right now, you don't think
Speaker 1: about long term. And at at the very best, Cooper
Speaker 1: is gonna out and then they're gonna pay him a
Speaker 1: ton of money at the same time that they need
Speaker 1: to pay Dak Prescott and his Eko Ellie at a
Speaker 1: ton of money. Though it was interesting that the Eagles,
Speaker 1: who are very analytics minded um and operate differently than Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Mike Silver said that they offered a second round pick,
Speaker 1: so they were just as hot on Amari Cooper's trail
Speaker 1: as the Cowboys. They just weren't willing to go for
Speaker 1: that first rounder. And now let's look on the Raiders
Speaker 1: side of this, and uh so, now they've traded Khalil
Speaker 1: Mack of course, uh, their best overall player and best
Speaker 1: defensive player. They have now traded their best offensive weapon
Speaker 1: and Amari Cooper and are a report from the Athletic
Speaker 1: VIC for is that how you pronounced his name? Let's
Speaker 1: just call him vic VIC reported a number of Raiders
Speaker 1: veterans have questioned Gruden John Gruden's accountability in the wake
Speaker 1: of the Mac and Cooper trades. Uh this from Vic.
Speaker 1: When what you say and what you do are two
Speaker 1: different things, there is a problem. Uh, And here's the
Speaker 1: Here's the problem to me, Mark is these players can
Speaker 1: be upset with but Gruden is that going anywhere? And
Speaker 1: uh so this looks like it's a full rebuild. So
Speaker 1: maybe these players that are upset just realized that they
Speaker 1: they have no long term job security where they are
Speaker 1: right now, and that cannot be a good feeling or
Speaker 1: positive vibe for a football team with still ten weeks
Speaker 1: to play. I mean, if you're if you're a player,
Speaker 1: and you watch them move Cleil Mac and then they
Speaker 1: move Cooper and and the issues where that they felt
Speaker 1: Gruden refuses to communicate in a way that shows respect.
Speaker 1: Where Cooper was pulled off the practice field. Gruden didn't
Speaker 1: say anything about the trade after practice. They learned about
Speaker 1: it from social media and text messaging and people asking
Speaker 1: about the trade. And if you're a veteran player and
Speaker 1: you you thought initially Gruden was gonna come in, you're
Speaker 1: gonna do all you can to win right away. I
Speaker 1: get what Gruden's doing from a team building perspective. You
Speaker 1: have five number one picks over the next two years,
Speaker 1: and you're essentially looking for Las Vegas Raiders two point oh.
Speaker 1: But if you're these players that have no a low
Speaker 1: possibility of being there when the flower blooms in Nevada,
Speaker 1: why why are you all in here? You're feeling like
Speaker 1: you're being used to get to the end of the season.
Speaker 1: There the average career last what three years, and there's
Speaker 1: only sixteen games a year. I if I'm a player,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that these games mean nothing
Speaker 1: in in in that article, it's essentially players saying we're
Speaker 1: hearing one thing publicly and another privately from Gruden. So
Speaker 1: he's has one message to the team and then it
Speaker 1: doesn't really match up with what he's doing, which is
Speaker 1: basically every article about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers from the
Speaker 1: year's two thousand five to two thousand and nine the
Speaker 1: same problem where they felt like they couldn't trust their coach.
Speaker 1: So who's safe the reports that nobody's saved. Derek car
Speaker 1: is supposed to be safe for the Raiders. But what's
Speaker 1: going on with Derek Carr because another report from the
Speaker 1: athletic UH that cars relationship with his Raiders teammates is
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the team and the franchise UH star
Speaker 1: is fractured. UH. And then that same report went into
Speaker 1: an issue that he may have lost UH the teammates
Speaker 1: and lost the locker room after he cried on the field,
Speaker 1: which led to all sorts of responses from Darren Carr.
Speaker 1: There's a third car brother everybody, UH. And then Derek
Speaker 1: uh responded also on Twitter, UM saying this on the ground,
Speaker 1: I yelled, I yelled, get up, get me. Then I
Speaker 1: got to the sideline and yelled again. Not one tier,
Speaker 1: not one time. There is the truth. People will click
Speaker 1: on it because it sounds crazy, but stopped playing with me.
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush was here for the Twitter show yesterday. He
Speaker 1: said he couldn't respect a teammate if he cried on
Speaker 1: the field. Who knows if Derek Carr actually cried. But
Speaker 1: the problem here is Derek Carr and the Raiders are
Speaker 1: not in a good place either, at least his teammates.
Speaker 1: I don't know how as a writer you you penned
Speaker 1: that article. I just how can you question this guy's
Speaker 1: toughness after what he's played through and what he's what
Speaker 1: he's gone through in the past. I just to me,
Speaker 1: that's I'd have a hard time writing that article. Well
Speaker 1: you wouldn't. You wouldn't write it. I mean, in any
Speaker 1: scenario you wouldn't write something that Mark would write it,
Speaker 1: but none of us would write it. It was a
Speaker 1: very salacious and just trying to make a point. And
Speaker 1: maybe he does have some information that people aren't fired
Speaker 1: up with Derek Carr within the building. I'll buy that.
Speaker 1: But here's why. If he's not playing well, if Derek
Speaker 1: Carr was playing at a great level, if they were
Speaker 1: six and one, if he was had twenty touchdowns this
Speaker 1: year and four interceptions, there's no article. No one cares.
Speaker 1: You can cry. You can cry all day, you can
Speaker 1: cry in the huddle while you're throwing fifty yard passes.
Speaker 1: Like people aren't gonna be happy with you. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: could be stobbing. It could be like the good Will
Speaker 1: hunting scene where where he's telling them there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with Matt Damon and that could be your reaction at
Speaker 1: all times if you're playing. I get what you're saying, Greg,
Speaker 1: But I think actually Reggie spoke the actual complete opposite,
Speaker 1: and I think he wanted to circle back around on
Speaker 1: his comments a little bit on a Twitter show, but
Speaker 1: he made it very clear he didn't want to see
Speaker 1: anyone crying and that and I think that we live
Speaker 1: in it right now America. It's like intense sensitivity from men.
Speaker 1: Mess Men must be intensely sensitive and open to all emotions.
Speaker 1: But in the NFL locker room, I don't think that's
Speaker 1: the case at all, Yeah, at all. My My larger
Speaker 1: point was the article doesn't get written, and no one's
Speaker 1: talking about this if they're winning in their plane the reporter,
Speaker 1: but we should. Uh, it's Marcus Thompson the second. I
Speaker 1: wonder what Marcus Thompson the first things about this. He's
Speaker 1: probably very proud of his son, great work at the athletic.
Speaker 1: That's it. On the rise internet publication. We all speak
Speaker 1: to our parents about what goes on at work. They're
Speaker 1: just well, I'm sure they're just so lucky to have you. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, you know they're they're the lucky. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying like that. I love it. One last Raiders note.
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch could be the end for beast Mode. He's
Speaker 1: moved to I r U with a injury. Uh what
Speaker 1: is the injury again? Poor muscle por muscle surgeries. Thirty
Speaker 1: two years old, he came out of retirement to return
Speaker 1: home and play, uh, play for the town, and that
Speaker 1: of course has not worked out. But but Lynch really
Speaker 1: did play well, especially after maybe the first month and
Speaker 1: a half of the season last year. He was quiet,
Speaker 1: but he came on and was a good player for them.
Speaker 1: But he just it wasn't the right fit because the
Speaker 1: Raiders weren't ready to contend. Does he want to play
Speaker 1: for anyone except his hometown at this stage of his career.
Speaker 1: I think that's worth asking. I thought he would have
Speaker 1: been a good trade candidate if he was healthy, because
Speaker 1: I think he could help a team, for instance, like
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I was thinking they could use an inside runner,
Speaker 1: like they could have given up a late round pick
Speaker 1: for him. But now that he's hurt, I think he's
Speaker 1: playing now. With Adrian Peterson and Frank Gore playing this well,
Speaker 1: the way that Lynch has run his last games on
Speaker 1: the field, I feel like he could play next year
Speaker 1: if he wanted to. It's whether he wants to. Moving
Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals, Uh there there, They've been a
Speaker 1: total nest this year, and now a report comes out
Speaker 1: from ESPN's Adam Schefter. Uh that Patrick Peterson they're all
Speaker 1: pro cornerback quote unquote desperately wants out. Uh. This report
Speaker 1: came out shortly before Arizona Cardinals head coach Steve Wilkes
Speaker 1: met with the media for his UM daily press conference.
Speaker 1: Here is how will Um responded to that report. Oh, no,
Speaker 1: we're not We're not training Patrick. That's out of the question.
Speaker 1: So he shoots it down emphatically. There is a report
Speaker 1: out there that does emphatic as Steve Wilkes get, Yeah,
Speaker 1: can we get the breaking news drop yes, sir. Patrick
Speaker 1: Peterson just released a statement. Oh read it was. I've
Speaker 1: been incredibly frustrated with how the season has gone, but
Speaker 1: my energy is focused on being part of the solution
Speaker 1: and helping us turn this around. I've never shied away
Speaker 1: from a challenge before, and I'm not starting now. I
Speaker 1: have always given my all to the Cardinals organization, my teammates,
Speaker 1: and fans. That is what I intend to do for
Speaker 1: the years to come. I am an Arizona Cardinal and
Speaker 1: my focus is on this week's game. Was he holding
Speaker 1: up a newspaper with today's date when he's alright? What
Speaker 1: else coming out? Of course, he's a great player and
Speaker 1: a great leader. You would expect nothing less from than
Speaker 1: him to focus on this week's game. Sure, he wouldn't
Speaker 1: be disappointed if he got traded. He's probably realizing right
Speaker 1: now other teams that we've heard our interested Jets, Patriots,
Speaker 1: he's probably finding out. Look, it's not gonna happen because
Speaker 1: the Cardinals don't want to trade him. What are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? And and if you're John Gruden, you can
Speaker 1: make these moves because you have that intense security if
Speaker 1: you're Wilkes, and if you're the Cardinals GM, right now,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be trading him for picks that you may
Speaker 1: not be around to use. So and he's a future
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame player, still in his prime. So why
Speaker 1: I never understand why you don't trade? So is Khalil
Speaker 1: mac right? So that was a dumb trade? You're right,
Speaker 1: but it was like he's under contract, it's under a
Speaker 1: totally fair contract. Why would that ever make the Cardinals
Speaker 1: to trade him. I've been told by an insider that
Speaker 1: he wants a new contract and he's not a great
Speaker 1: fit for Steve wilkes defense. So I think this is
Speaker 1: where it all comes. That's what people have said and
Speaker 1: a lot of like the there's been a lot of
Speaker 1: criticism of Steve Wilkes of how they're using them. And
Speaker 1: it's like Pitt Petrick Pearson is making a bigger impact
Speaker 1: this year to me than I've seen explain playing amazing,
Speaker 1: So it seems like a good fit to me. Uh,
Speaker 1: not a good fit. Chad Kelly and the Denver Broncos,
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback, the last pick of the two thousand
Speaker 1: and seventeen draft, who turned some heads, including in this room,
Speaker 1: during the preseason with some high level play and potentially
Speaker 1: was in line to see some snaps of case. Keenum
Speaker 1: continued to struggle, Well, you blew it because you went
Speaker 1: to Von Miller's Halloween party and you got drunk, and uh,
Speaker 1: allegedly and you got into some type of altercation at
Speaker 1: the party and you were escorted out of the party,
Speaker 1: and then you wandered the nearby surface streets and wandered
Speaker 1: into someone else's home that wasn't yours and sat on
Speaker 1: the couch and according to the police, all of this
Speaker 1: was mumbling incoherently. Uh. Then you were you were battered
Speaker 1: by a vacuum cleaner by one of the residents of
Speaker 1: the home, who of you to get out. Uh, And uh,
Speaker 1: that doesn't go so well because you then get arrested
Speaker 1: with first degree criminal trust passing And uh, the Broncos
Speaker 1: would say, listen, we kind of like this Chad Kelly,
Speaker 1: but we don't like this version. So you gone. He's released.
Speaker 1: So Chad Kelly gets sent packing after an embarrassing arrest
Speaker 1: over the weekend or on Monday, and there was report
Speaker 1: that John Ellie was extremely angry with him, and there
Speaker 1: was no wiggle room here. I would say, outside of
Speaker 1: the arrest, I've done most of what Chad Kelly has
Speaker 1: done at times in the past, so I will allow
Speaker 1: someone else to critique him. Yeah, I've done that before.
Speaker 1: No question, You've run into someone else's house you've been
Speaker 1: you've been physically escorted out of a party, most most
Speaker 1: a coworker through and then got into an altercation and
Speaker 1: threatened security at that party. I think that is just
Speaker 1: as didn't do any of that. But I think that's
Speaker 1: just as much of a reason of why he's released.
Speaker 1: And then the number one reason is is he has
Speaker 1: a long track record of drinking problems and problems with arrest,
Speaker 1: and I think when they took him on, they probably said, look,
Speaker 1: we can't tolerate any more of this at the pro level,
Speaker 1: else we're gonna cut you, so you gotta car. I
Speaker 1: think West and I were just saying that in decades
Speaker 1: years past events occur where I'm not just gonna stand
Speaker 1: here and lash this player. Good luck to you, Chad.
Speaker 1: Is it safe to say that both of the kissing
Speaker 1: cousins have at some point in their life gotten drunk
Speaker 1: and ended up in someone else's home thinking it was theirs.
Speaker 1: If an apartment is a home, yes, I have to
Speaker 1: correct you on something. I didn't think it was my home.
Speaker 1: I was looking for someone else's house, stopped to take
Speaker 1: a break on on a couch in a drinking garage,
Speaker 1: and I fell asleep on said couch. Mine was in
Speaker 1: an apartment complex where I knew the door. Sounds like
Speaker 1: Adventures in Tye Yes it was. There's a drinking garage involved.
Speaker 1: The door to my friend's apartment was right outside of
Speaker 1: the stairwell, but I went one floor too high, wandered
Speaker 1: in and I was like, why did she change all
Speaker 1: the furniture around? And it was dark and I could
Speaker 1: hear some in another room, and then I realized this
Speaker 1: is not her apartment and I dashed out of there
Speaker 1: at high speeds. There was I don't know if you
Speaker 1: want to speak on this West, but I do recall
Speaker 1: an incident outside Sessler manner as well. It's a similar nature,
Speaker 1: but it was not a house no. Um. But I
Speaker 1: the major news here is is my accountable hot take
Speaker 1: is going to be ruined by this. Oh yes, our
Speaker 1: Twitter Tuesday Twitter show. We have accountable hot takes that
Speaker 1: we track and then um, we give each other lashes,
Speaker 1: shame lashes if you get it wrong. And U Chad
Speaker 1: Kelly will not be ascending to the starting role in Denver.
Speaker 1: And at this rate, Vance Joseph is not gonna lose
Speaker 1: his job, at least not in the next week or two.
Speaker 1: Who do they play this week? I think do they
Speaker 1: play the Rams? Now? They already just lost to the Rams. Uh.
Speaker 1: So there you go, Chad Kelly on the street. He's
Speaker 1: got some talent, so I'm sure somebody could be tempted
Speaker 1: to pick him up, but he's now going to prove
Speaker 1: that he can get his It sounded like John Kelly.
Speaker 1: John Elway was still willing to help Chad Kelly out
Speaker 1: at this legal situation, and that indicates to me that
Speaker 1: they might take him back at some point. Practice squad. Uh.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Broncos, to Marius Thomas has been an
Speaker 1: impact player there for a long time, but he said
Speaker 1: this week that quote time here is his time here
Speaker 1: is coming up in uh in Denver, which is interesting. Uh.
Speaker 1: Mike Lease of nine News Denver reports the Broncos will
Speaker 1: not trade and are not shopping to Marius Thomas ahead
Speaker 1: of Tuesday's deadline. But Thomas has made it known that
Speaker 1: maybe it's time for a fresh start. But he said
Speaker 1: they wouldn't trade him this week, you know before that.
Speaker 1: So he's playing this week and they wanted to make
Speaker 1: that clear. I think they've made it obvious through their
Speaker 1: sources they would happily take a draft pick for him,
Speaker 1: because there's no chance he's going to be on the
Speaker 1: team next year when he has a fourteen million dollar salary.
Speaker 1: But he's not nearly as explosive as he used to be,
Speaker 1: So it's just a matter of his any team gonna
Speaker 1: make it worth it. If if you're just giving up
Speaker 1: a conditional seventh or something like that, and you're the Broncos,
Speaker 1: it's like, why bother? Why not just keep him? You're
Speaker 1: still three and four? Is he has he fallen off
Speaker 1: that much? I don't think his rapport with case Keenum
Speaker 1: is all that great. I don't see a guy who's
Speaker 1: washed up. I don't Mike care Folow is on NFL
Speaker 1: Network saying that he, you know, he had heard from
Speaker 1: exact you know, personnel executives throughout the league the thought
Speaker 1: he clearly wasn't the same player. But I think he
Speaker 1: could be a possession type receiver and still help you.
Speaker 1: I mean, they also have Courtland Sutton that he's not
Speaker 1: getting quite the touch as you want at this point,
Speaker 1: some bigger role for him. Levian Bell is still not
Speaker 1: with the Steelers, so he uh, the question now is
Speaker 1: when does he show up? Rap sheet reported that he's
Speaker 1: not reporting to the team this week. Uh, it is continuing. Uh.
Speaker 1: The trade deadline is, of course Tuesday at four oh
Speaker 1: one pm Eastern. Perhaps Mark Sessler that is the next
Speaker 1: time to watch the Steeler's facility, because this perhaps is
Speaker 1: lead Bell making sure he doesn't get moved ahead of
Speaker 1: the trade deadline, which he does not want to be moved. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he does not, and he's gone out of his way
Speaker 1: for a in season, built in sabbatical for essentially looking
Speaker 1: down the future for the rest of his career. I
Speaker 1: am tired of this story. I am tired of tracking
Speaker 1: this week to week. At some point, either he shows
Speaker 1: up or he doesn't. They have someone already who's doing
Speaker 1: everything they could ask at the running back position. The
Speaker 1: Steelers have to just move forward. At this point. They
Speaker 1: haven't missed him, as eleven Silva pointed out, they're averaging
Speaker 1: more points and more yards per play this year than
Speaker 1: they did last year. It's funny you say that, though,
Speaker 1: because there you're hearing that side of it, and then
Speaker 1: if you look at other numbers and other analytical studies
Speaker 1: of their game, you could say they have missed him
Speaker 1: a lot. And how could you not miss Levian Bell
Speaker 1: because the guy playing there is playing well well, Levian
Speaker 1: Bell is gonna make your team better, and you'll make
Speaker 1: them more dangerous down this stretch when he's on the team.
Speaker 1: I think this week it really sounded like his agent thought,
Speaker 1: why show up before before the trade deadline? That if
Speaker 1: you're gonna show up right about now, wait one more
Speaker 1: week in case you get dealt It doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: there's much of a chance for that. The Rooney's told
Speaker 1: the un rap report that he's not getting traded. They
Speaker 1: just they're not gonna just give him away for peanuts.
Speaker 1: And I think they're trying to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they? Can you not be traded if you
Speaker 1: haven't reported, you could know he can still be traded.
Speaker 1: It just I think, in Levy on Bell's mind, the
Speaker 1: perfect solution their scenario is getting traded over the next week.
Speaker 1: So why show up to the Steelers right before that?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't agree with most of what he's done,
Speaker 1: but if you're gonna play the strategy this way, this
Speaker 1: is not the dumbest part of the strategy. It makes sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Moving on, The New York Giants are
Speaker 1: in Tara download at one and six. UH. They are
Speaker 1: starting the rebuild and it begins with two trades UH
Speaker 1: in the past twenty four hours. First, Eli Apple, the
Speaker 1: UM cornerback who was drafted in the first round of
Speaker 1: the sixteen draft. He gets moved to the Saints for
Speaker 1: a mid round pick I believe a fourth rounder. Was
Speaker 1: it fourth in the seventh next year? Fourth in the
Speaker 1: seventh next year? So Apple joins the Saint secondary. And
Speaker 1: then just today, Snacks Harrison, who remains an elite run
Speaker 1: stuff or he gets moved to the Lions for a
Speaker 1: fifth round pick. West that let's talk on both of
Speaker 1: these will start with Snacks Harrison. That seems like a
Speaker 1: nice pickup for Detroit in the middle of the season.
Speaker 1: Harrison does exactly what you ask him to do. He
Speaker 1: makes a lot of money. But for a team like
Speaker 1: the Lions that sees the NFC is wide open, that's
Speaker 1: a nice pickup. That wasn't surprised to me that they
Speaker 1: only got a fifth round pick for him. I guess
Speaker 1: the more you look at it, he wasn't gonna be
Speaker 1: there next year. UM in the line or the Giants
Speaker 1: clearly are on going anywhere this year. But I agree,
Speaker 1: that's a great pickup. Wouldn't be there next year though.
Speaker 1: He's good, and he's not getting paid that much for
Speaker 1: the Giants. Yeah, I think he's getting paid seven to
Speaker 1: eight million dollars. This it's terrible and this is what
Speaker 1: happens when you change general managers. You gave him the
Speaker 1: big signing bonus, so you're already eating that on your
Speaker 1: on your cap regardless. So they're taking dead money for this.
Speaker 1: The yearly salaries between seven and nine million. I love
Speaker 1: this trade for the Lions. You allow the Giants to
Speaker 1: pay the signing bonus, you give up a mid to
Speaker 1: late fifth fifth round pick. This is what These are
Speaker 1: the types of trades that the Patriots and the Eagles
Speaker 1: and the Rams to some degree have made, giving up
Speaker 1: these later round picks for a veteran who's gonna absolutely
Speaker 1: help them for at least I would say the next
Speaker 1: year and a half. Yeah. Put the puts the Lines
Speaker 1: into one of the categories of the teams that are
Speaker 1: not completely giving up on the season two because this
Speaker 1: addresses their biggest issue on defense. They have been the
Speaker 1: worst run stopping defense in the NFL. This is why,
Speaker 1: by the way, GMS, they need like a subreddit page,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure they have one. Well they should just
Speaker 1: like an internal one that's only for them and it's
Speaker 1: a password protected. Uh. Same thing with Marie Cooper. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been better if that because Mari Cooper it's fine
Speaker 1: and maybe great, but he hasn't been great for a while.
Speaker 1: If the Cowboys went on the on the subreddit page
Speaker 1: for the team architects and said, hey, um, we are
Speaker 1: willing to give a first round pick for an established
Speaker 1: star wide receiver, is it possible any of the other
Speaker 1: thirty one teams or thirty teams would have offered someone
Speaker 1: better than a Mark Cooper. Same in this case, the
Speaker 1: Giant said, hey, we got Snacks Harrison. Here. We have
Speaker 1: an unnamed team that wants to give a fifth round
Speaker 1: pick for an elite run stuffer. Anybody want to beat that?
Speaker 1: Give us a third or fourth. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: let's start the subred and they don't think they do
Speaker 1: an equivalent of that of I don't think they are interested,
Speaker 1: not not. They don't have cover all the bases. If
Speaker 1: there was a subreddit West Greg, they would cover all
Speaker 1: their bases. I like this idea. I think it has
Speaker 1: to maybe you're the man to put it into place.
Speaker 1: I just have to get in contact with all of
Speaker 1: the teams because it has to be everyone involved, has
Speaker 1: to be the United Nations if you if you can't everybody.
Speaker 1: When I think Mark Davis, Jerry Jones, I think computer
Speaker 1: wizards are really gonna be able to figure out how
Speaker 1: to log in, don't undersell Reggie mackenzie there on the
Speaker 1: two factor authentification, Like wait, is this like how you're
Speaker 1: posting the question or you're responding like I don't really understand,
Speaker 1: would be blown away by to uh, I don't understand Reddit. Really, Dan,
Speaker 1: you should do a commercial and then how good of
Speaker 1: a pick would they have gotten if they did the
Speaker 1: subred for snacks. I think they would at least gotten
Speaker 1: a fourth. Honestly, that's the commercial, So that's your fourth,
Speaker 1: that's value. Got a better trade? I mean, don't you
Speaker 1: feel like to Greg's technology point where years removed from
Speaker 1: a fact fact machine disaster in Denver and one year
Speaker 1: removed from Sashi Brown who seems like he would understand
Speaker 1: computers to me unable to secure the A J. McCarron
Speaker 1: trade due to eleventh hour Shanigan's technology front wise, So
Speaker 1: you might the Browns might have a J. McCarron starting
Speaker 1: right now for them. If not for that, UH, Everson
Speaker 1: Griffin good news for the Vikings UH and fans of
Speaker 1: the veteran defensive end UH who He's had some issues
Speaker 1: off the field UH and it took him away from
Speaker 1: the team, but he will resume team activities or he
Speaker 1: has today. He left a team on September twenty to
Speaker 1: address some mental health UH struggles he was dealing with,
Speaker 1: but about a month later he's back with the Vikings.
Speaker 1: We'll see if he suits up UH for Week eight.
Speaker 1: But this is a a top pass rusher and for
Speaker 1: a Vikings team UH greg that is starting to find
Speaker 1: its way. If Griffin could come back and his head's
Speaker 1: right and his game's right, it's another big piece for them.
Speaker 1: It's huge. They're relatively thin at that position. But if
Speaker 1: he's plays like he did the last few years, him
Speaker 1: and Daniel Hunter are among the best defensive end duos
Speaker 1: in the league. And I I'm I applaud like how
Speaker 1: this entire story has been covered. I think the understanding
Speaker 1: about mental health and the way people talk about it
Speaker 1: as taken huge strides, like in the last five years,
Speaker 1: like It's really remarkable how how different it's handled, and
Speaker 1: everyone's kind of handled a tough situation. Well, it seems
Speaker 1: like in Minnesota and the media covering it, it's a
Speaker 1: sensitive topic. And yeah, you're right, Greg, Moving on the uh.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars are sticking with Blake Bortles. Um he will
Speaker 1: remain the starter, Dug Maron announce Monday. But Marone let
Speaker 1: it be knowing that Blake will be on a short leash. Yeah,
Speaker 1: against the who they got this week, the Eagles in London,
Speaker 1: So this is a London game, will you know? Sometimes
Speaker 1: people go to London and they don't come back. Bart
Speaker 1: is like London Joe Montana, though his stats in London
Speaker 1: in the last three years are like m v P
Speaker 1: level stats. You want to talk about who's maybe they
Speaker 1: think that's what that'll that will have a small sample size.
Speaker 1: It's three games, but the last three games he's been great.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody under more pressure in Week
Speaker 1: eight than Blake Bortles. He needs to shake this slump
Speaker 1: because Maron, you could tell he feels like his hands
Speaker 1: are tied. But if Bortles continues to stink out the
Speaker 1: joint he's gonna just have to make a move, whether
Speaker 1: that is a trade or to say I'm going to
Speaker 1: hand this team over to Kessler and hope for the
Speaker 1: best and beyond London. Though some of his best performances,
Speaker 1: not that I think this will stick, is when he
Speaker 1: is doubted by everyone, when he is under the most pressure,
Speaker 1: board has turned around and kind of said f you
Speaker 1: and and put up some good numbers. But this just
Speaker 1: feels like a for now move and almost allowing Blake
Speaker 1: Bortles to completely, with emphasis, play himself out of the
Speaker 1: position before they make a trade for someone or bench
Speaker 1: him for the year. I would submit that this is
Speaker 1: not a slump. It's who Blake Bortles is right, and
Speaker 1: they finally are acknowledging that. And I know it's just
Speaker 1: two quarters, but you're not going to get better with
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler. I don't think he just refuses to like
Speaker 1: push the ball down the field. I think as a
Speaker 1: trade is so much more feasible. I don't think that
Speaker 1: playing Cody Kessler the rest of the year is an option.
Speaker 1: To me, the only two is just Bordles are a
Speaker 1: trade and just just eat it. What are you telling
Speaker 1: your team if you start Cody Kessler from here to
Speaker 1: the end that you have in the quarterback that you started,
Speaker 1: and well, just that the whole position was poorly managed
Speaker 1: and as as beyond comprehend maybe the Jaguars can get
Speaker 1: some help from Bridget in a couple of minutes, but
Speaker 1: maybe they can get a left tackle while they're at it,
Speaker 1: because they're on their third string. And I think it's
Speaker 1: interesting that Maron has repeat at the emphasized Blake Portal's
Speaker 1: mobility and scrambling as one of the reasons they stick
Speaker 1: with him. They don't want some statue behind center. There Finally,
Speaker 1: two UH I R notices from the a f C
Speaker 1: East Albert Wilson uhmerging wide receiver for the Dolphins likely
Speaker 1: to be headed to season ending I R with a
Speaker 1: hip injury UH and running back Bill all Paul of
Speaker 1: Powell of the Jets suffered a neck injury early in
Speaker 1: Sunday's loss to the Vikings. That puts him on I
Speaker 1: R and UM at thirty one and UH in the
Speaker 1: last year of his contract. That probably ends his Jets career.
Speaker 1: A little bit of sneaky underrated career for Billy Powell
Speaker 1: in New York, But that's Uh, they are the gentlemen
Speaker 1: killed by injuries this year. It's gonna be hard to really,
Speaker 1: uh put together um any type of winning streak. I
Speaker 1: think they've been hit in almost every part of their team.
Speaker 1: But Powell uh is out and Albert Wilson also out.
Speaker 1: At the Dolphins, UH need Albert Wilson, and they're not
Speaker 1: gonna have him. He was having a career. Yet this
Speaker 1: is a big loss for what the Dolphins want to
Speaker 1: do on offense because Albert Wilson's sort of been like
Speaker 1: a guy, just a guy forever. But in Miami he
Speaker 1: was being used very well by Adam Gaese and Uh
Speaker 1: was on his way to his best year. Yet it
Speaker 1: might have been their offensive MVP if you had to
Speaker 1: choose one. Did a lot of different things for him.
Speaker 1: I think he and Laramy tounsl are the two most
Speaker 1: important players they they even their tackle play has been good.
Speaker 1: But Wilson's out and Kenny Stills is out this week
Speaker 1: for t n F, I don't think we have a
Speaker 1: t n F previews slated into the show, So uh,
Speaker 1: I just think this particular game going to Houston. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was that I was kind of hinting here,
Speaker 1: Like this game going to Houston without Wilson and Stills,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to play Davante Parker. These are two
Speaker 1: teams with a winning record, but you do feel like
Speaker 1: with Miami you can't keep taking these losses. This would
Speaker 1: be four out of five losses if they lost lost
Speaker 1: in Houston. And like the things that you thought were
Speaker 1: gonna be good about Miami really aren't that good right now.
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn has not been doing much late. Like the
Speaker 1: the defensive end group that you thought was so deep
Speaker 1: their first round picked Charles Harris is not making much
Speaker 1: of an impact. Cameron Wake has been pretty quiet. Like
Speaker 1: Dolphin's gotta show something on Thursday. That's what's happening in
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Speaker 1: It does seem like a a place where you would
Speaker 1: probably get a lot of different odors. Well you'd think so,
Speaker 1: but it's right here locally if you're if you want
Speaker 1: to do your own follow up story on that, I
Speaker 1: just that would be my fear. First of all, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't really want that would be one that would be
Speaker 1: one of many concerns. But that level of intimacy, Greg
Speaker 1: would be your nightmare. I feel like that kind of
Speaker 1: touching and all that you don't like when I touch you?
Speaker 1: What if it was total strangers, like all over you
Speaker 1: not using the odor in maybe you know, maybe not
Speaker 1: handling the bathroom the way they should be, just a
Speaker 1: total odorfest. Well, plus, you know, there's been documentaries as
Speaker 1: you mentioned of like yeah, people that have started some
Speaker 1: of these clubs being you know, molesters essentially gone to
Speaker 1: jail for such a thing. So that's that's also worrisome.
Speaker 1: Illicit intentions that would be a little I mean I
Speaker 1: would not. That feels like the dark end of the spectrum.
Speaker 1: This organization, according to the copy, has been around for
Speaker 1: a while operating legally. That's fine, donate to trust him.
Speaker 1: I feel like that might have been a good topic
Speaker 1: for Delaware to uh handle in your old band back
Speaker 1: in high school. We're pretty lighthearted. Illicit attentions about the
Speaker 1: hugging industry interesting, all right, here we go. I didn't
Speaker 1: even know there was a hugging industry. Mark have you
Speaker 1: done it? Would you do it? Absolutely not to both questions. Really,
Speaker 1: I felt like you would like to hug industry. I
Speaker 1: would not want to do a cuddle party. Whatever's whatever.
Speaker 1: What has been described as not attractive to me? All right,
Speaker 1: it is time to fire fire up that machine. Erica
Speaker 1: because it's not just the machine, it's Bridget. She is
Speaker 1: our trade probability the machine and um listen, uh Erica
Speaker 1: made it be known minutes ago that actually the whole
Speaker 1: hook of the segment, which was that Bridget was a
Speaker 1: female voice. We don't have the female voice. And she's
Speaker 1: a female? Is it a female? It's a female robot?
Speaker 1: Is she British? It's an American Bridget? It's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of ballf Actually, you know, the dumpster
Speaker 1: didn't have everything, so we may do. It is a
Speaker 1: dumpster filled with eighties and nineties computer parts, So what
Speaker 1: what can you ask for? So anyway, what we're gonna
Speaker 1: do with this trade probabiliting machine around the NFL podcast
Speaker 1: is gonna put together some trade offers, filter it through Bridget,
Speaker 1: and we'll find out if they're um good or bad? Mark,
Speaker 1: do you want to get us gone? Sure? Here's an
Speaker 1: offer that came to mind that I think would help
Speaker 1: a team that has Super Bowl aspirations, and that is
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos sending Shane Ray to the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Rams for a two thousand and nineteen fourth rounder, which
Speaker 1: is basically a fifth rounder if you're the Rams. They
Speaker 1: have Wade Phillips, who knows Shane Ray from his rookie
Speaker 1: season in Denver. The scheme fits. It gives them an
Speaker 1: edge pass rusher who is inexpensive, and that addresses what
Speaker 1: I think is the final, maybe lingering need for the
Speaker 1: Rams on any level, which is more pass rush. What
Speaker 1: do you think, gentlemen? Interesting, I didn't. I didn't think
Speaker 1: of the reuniting with Wade Phillips angle. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if Shane Rays, you know, good at uh playing a
Speaker 1: lot of snaps in the NFL. I mean, he hasn't
Speaker 1: played very well. Is he like that the Broncos have
Speaker 1: been trying to basically replace him ever since he's been
Speaker 1: in the league. I'm not. I don't know. I would.
Speaker 1: You'd have to talk to Wade Phillips. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if his experience with Shane Ray would increase his chances
Speaker 1: of wanting to work with him. Okay, it's been a
Speaker 1: little better this year. Let's process. This sounds overwhelmingly accepted
Speaker 1: as a as an idea good one, mark not good one,
Speaker 1: mark not not back. Well, it all makes did not
Speaker 1: help me on that one, but it all makes. Ever
Speaker 1: since Dan said that most of his sense of humor
Speaker 1: came from Wayne's world. Like everything else about this entire
Speaker 1: podcast over the last six years, makes way more sense,
Speaker 1: including that little joke bring it back. Not well, I
Speaker 1: didn't Bridget did West Europe? Bridget came from the early nineties.
Speaker 1: Probably makes sense. Makes sense. Another team with Super Bowl aspirations,
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers trade one of their two first
Speaker 1: round picks. Remember they got one from the Snakes. Purple
Speaker 1: of the markets. Davenport trade to the New York Giants
Speaker 1: for Landon Collins, who is in a contract year and
Speaker 1: it's going to have to be franchised or given a
Speaker 1: huge new contracts. One more time was Landon Collins to
Speaker 1: the Packers for one of their first round picks for
Speaker 1: first Alright, I like this fun. People are in the
Speaker 1: UH and all pro level safety and his third year?
Speaker 1: Is it? Fourth year? He is? I believe this is
Speaker 1: his fourth season? What do you think, gentlemen? Well, if
Speaker 1: I was the Giants, it's kind of like we were
Speaker 1: talking about with Peterson, how do you get better by
Speaker 1: trading away your best players? And I know you've got
Speaker 1: to pay him, but there should be some homegrown talent
Speaker 1: that you would want to pay in Landon Collins would
Speaker 1: certainly be that guy in my mind, so I'd be yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean it's not I think it's
Speaker 1: an even trade. But again, if I was Dave Gettleman,
Speaker 1: I want to keep the standout players, then the Collins
Speaker 1: is not at the level of players Khalil Mack is.
Speaker 1: But it does kind of fall under that same issue.
Speaker 1: All Right, it's okay to rebuild, but you still want
Speaker 1: to keep some of the guys around that are young
Speaker 1: and have prime years ahead of him because the rebuild
Speaker 1: could happen pretty quick in the NFL. Um So I'd
Speaker 1: be surprised if they move Collins, but first round pick
Speaker 1: makes an enticing But I mean what bridget said, Well, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I just think if then you're saying to Giants fans,
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to rebuild this entire thing with Pat
Speaker 1: Shermer as our coach and Dave Gettelman is r GM,
Speaker 1: is that what works? Like, No, I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: a hard sell to say we're we're going to the
Speaker 1: very bottom and these are the people that you already
Speaker 1: have stars on this team. Mcgreg's point yesterday on the
Speaker 1: Twitter Show, you're You're sitting there with one win, with
Speaker 1: more stars than some teams have. You're gutting the roster,
Speaker 1: and you're saying this is the rebuild operation. This feels
Speaker 1: really sketchy. That's not that's Shermer's on. Yeah, like I
Speaker 1: I would not. I would say I would not do
Speaker 1: the trade because I think you have Like I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you've got to keep something around. Did Shermer violate you
Speaker 1: at a cuddle party? No, Let's process it with Bridget,
Speaker 1: process like the internet, nine teams, slow dialog, speedy, return
Speaker 1: to senderfer Bridge. It's a little spicy. I thought that
Speaker 1: was a good offer. I mean it's fun. I think
Speaker 1: I have a crush on bridget'st to how about you Greg?
Speaker 1: All right, Um, I'm pretty intimidated by Bridget here. I'm
Speaker 1: hoping this can pass. Buster. Uh. The Raiders decided to
Speaker 1: just go full rebuilt, and they send their quarterback Derek
Speaker 1: Carr to the team that needs a quarterback more than anyone,
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, who give up a two thousand and
Speaker 1: nineteen first round pick a two thousand twenty third round
Speaker 1: pick Cody Kessler, just because that seems like a John
Speaker 1: Gruden type of quarterback. Weirdly, and the services they don't
Speaker 1: get to keep him employed, but the services for at
Speaker 1: least one year analytically of Tony Khan, son of so there,
Speaker 1: he's gonna try to come in and and at least
Speaker 1: just update and modernize the analytical thinking for Oakland on
Speaker 1: alone alone. Only have to sign on for this shot
Speaker 1: owns the teams you're part of the job, will tell him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, the first first round of this year, third
Speaker 1: next Kessler in one year, just one year of Tony.
Speaker 1: Conny doesn't want to sell off his first in a
Speaker 1: third and Tony and Cody, Cody's thrown in. Actually, Cody
Speaker 1: Kessler honestly seems like a John Gurden type of quarterback.
Speaker 1: He loves this, Greg, I love this. I had the
Speaker 1: almost exact same situation with the picks minus Tony Khan
Speaker 1: to the Giants. I thought that maybe that would be
Speaker 1: a thing with the Giants, but I love it to
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, And I think that if there's a player
Speaker 1: in the league right now that needs a fresh start
Speaker 1: more than Derek Carr, I can't find one other than
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles that a lot of value for Derek. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's too much to give up for Derek.
Speaker 1: Is it the Tony Khn part of it? If I'm
Speaker 1: giving up that much, I want to make sure he's
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. And I'm not sure Derek car is
Speaker 1: a franchise alright. One first round pick and they're they're
Speaker 1: a good enough team. And if they get Derek Carr,
Speaker 1: I think they're hoping that they're in the in the twenties,
Speaker 1: which means you're in the playoffs. So that's a pick
Speaker 1: around twenty and in a third round pick in two years.
Speaker 1: I mean, Kessler and con are nice, but those are
Speaker 1: just kind of sprinkle, you know. I feel like GM's
Speaker 1: have a weird love affair with third round picks, though
Speaker 1: they treat them like like they're even better than first
Speaker 1: round picks. I know that doesn't make sense. Check the
Speaker 1: sub I'm just saying, if a Marii Cooper gets a
Speaker 1: first round pick, uh, Derek Carr can get a first
Speaker 1: round pick, especially a late one. Same thing on the subroundit, Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: uh John Gruden here, I got somebody offering it first
Speaker 1: and third for Derek Carr. Can you beat that? Or
Speaker 1: do you want to be. He's a quarterback. They of
Speaker 1: what Sam Bradford got, think of what's underneath. I mean
Speaker 1: I do, Dan, I do think that the way that
Speaker 1: GM's work is that there is active communication when they're
Speaker 1: when you're trying to move a quarterback. Yes, I like
Speaker 1: this to Dan's point, I know, I think the sub
Speaker 1: reddit reddit would have helped out the Patriots with the
Speaker 1: Jimmy Gach. It's also a relationship business. Yes, absolutely, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna undercut you and develop an app. No, it's a
Speaker 1: relationship business. Some gms are better communicating that others. Um.
Speaker 1: But if you just put it in black and white
Speaker 1: terms on this place that everyone knows, it feels organized.
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. And maybe if you want to
Speaker 1: get there could be some awkwardness like when they posted,
Speaker 1: they get like a notification. I'm offering this, you know,
Speaker 1: for Derek Carr, can you topic? Do you want to
Speaker 1: collaborate on something or yeah, let's do There could be
Speaker 1: some okwan. I mean, Belichick posts that about Jimmy g
Speaker 1: last year, and the Jets are are like please us,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins please us, and Belichick have to just pretend,
Speaker 1: oh I didn't read the page. I'm Sorry, didn't you
Speaker 1: could put like, don't at me jets? Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's compute uh Greg's offer, which seems fair? Greg is
Speaker 1: back on the acid. It's weird. I don't it seemed
Speaker 1: like a relatively fair Did she say he's back on
Speaker 1: the acid? All right, I'll throw you're on it. It
Speaker 1: kind of never leaves, do you West? Do you have
Speaker 1: a cults one? Because I know you love the cults.
Speaker 1: I don't have Okay, so good, I have a cults one?
Speaker 1: All right? Um, Colts could use little help in their backfield.
Speaker 1: This is why it's gonna be vexing to West. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna like this, But I do have a borderline
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame running back that desperately needs a change
Speaker 1: of scenery and is entering He has one year left
Speaker 1: on his contract and maybe one or two years left
Speaker 1: of um real productivity. He is a guy that has
Speaker 1: character issues, of course. Uh But and I know you
Speaker 1: wouldn't want him anywhere near well, I don't think the
Speaker 1: women of Indianapolis want him anywhere near there. But I
Speaker 1: think he could provide another layer to the Colts offense,
Speaker 1: and I trust him, Frank Wright, to find the best
Speaker 1: way to use him. Get Lashawn McCoy to the Indianapolis
Speaker 1: Colts for a fifth round pick, maybe a fourth, a
Speaker 1: conditional fourth, send it the same. How do you know how?
Speaker 1: How do you know how bridget deals with maybe a fourth?
Speaker 1: All right, let me say fourth round pick and uh.
Speaker 1: The Bills get a piece for their huge rebuild. The
Speaker 1: Colts get a potential impact player down the stretch and
Speaker 1: an a wide open a f C your thoughts. I mean,
Speaker 1: McCoy has been a total mystery this year. He's done nothing.
Speaker 1: It's looked really good the last two games he played before.
Speaker 1: I thought he looked great. Good. Cushion is not a
Speaker 1: lingering issue. But if he is um available, why wouldn't
Speaker 1: he be available? He should be moved. It just feels
Speaker 1: to me like the Bills are basically just shoving him
Speaker 1: out at the building because they're not getting much in return.
Speaker 1: They rebuild. It makes sense in Buffalo, but of a
Speaker 1: conditional fourth round pick. I mean, Damon Snax Harrison is
Speaker 1: a good player. He didn't get much more. It would
Speaker 1: be more of a salary dum. But if I'm the Colts,
Speaker 1: I'm not that interested because I think they're building something.
Speaker 1: They've got a pretty good running back in Marlon Mack,
Speaker 1: and yes, Lashawn McCoy would improve them, but I just
Speaker 1: I don't wanna. I don't want to add that to
Speaker 1: that mix. They're they're not trying to get over the
Speaker 1: top to win a super Bowl right now. And if
Speaker 1: they think they are, I don't think they do. I
Speaker 1: think they in a in a perfect world, they would
Speaker 1: love to get to nine wins and make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I don't think they consider themselves championship contenders. I don't
Speaker 1: think Chris Bellard, yeah, the McCoy, Yeah, McCoy your favorite
Speaker 1: type of frog. I don't know how he's going to
Speaker 1: fit in there. The young team, impressionable. I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised to see Lashawn McCoy moved though, if if that would,
Speaker 1: I just think the cults are interesting. Like you said,
Speaker 1: his signing bone has already paid out. He's got one
Speaker 1: more year after this at just six million bucks, not
Speaker 1: not prohibitive with a salary. We'll see what Bridget has
Speaker 1: to say. Dan is hot and masculing this entire This
Speaker 1: is just another Dan Run, a Dan Run segment. We're
Speaker 1: just going through the motions now. It's it's because because
Speaker 1: a minute. The minute I saw this on the rundown,
Speaker 1: I knew where this was going because that was so obvious.
Speaker 1: That was the setup, that was so obvious. We were
Speaker 1: all waiting for it. I just let's go through another round.
Speaker 1: And it was sexy. He's a great GM. I was that.
Speaker 1: I could not asked what a joke? What manufactured joke?
Speaker 1: I wasn't so obvious. I thought it was heading in
Speaker 1: that direction. And then when Dan said, I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about it, I was like, okay, good, good, get set
Speaker 1: up please, It's just a mark. Oh. It is one
Speaker 1: of endless bits that Dan controls, the great power flaws, pulling, pulling,
Speaker 1: the levers. I'm afraid to even go on at this point.
Speaker 1: Well why not, Let's just let the charade roll on? Alright,
Speaker 1: Mark ahead, all right? How about this? DeVante Parker to
Speaker 1: the Browns for a six round pick and embattled Brown's
Speaker 1: administrative assistant Tina Hammers. Hang with me here. Remember when
Speaker 1: Davante Parker's mom said, after this is we didn't want him.
Speaker 1: We did not want Davante going to Cleveland. They don't
Speaker 1: have a team. We were happy with the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: We love the weather so cut to Adam Gaze shipping
Speaker 1: Parker to Chili Cleveland for a six round pick and
Speaker 1: Hammers the wayward admin. We love this for the Browns.
Speaker 1: General manager John Dorsey tells Mary kay Cabot, and we
Speaker 1: unloaded Tina Hammers, a malcontent with a wine problem who
Speaker 1: spreads off his gossip like wildfire. We won this deal.
Speaker 1: Dal qu up bridget to say, Now, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't understand why you're so mad right, struggling negative self
Speaker 1: destruct yawn. That was Arca's decision, by the way, I
Speaker 1: didn't tell her what to do there. Four, John, what
Speaker 1: was the trade DeVante Parker to the Browns for what?
Speaker 1: Six round? Picking a malcontent? Admin? Weren't you just getting
Speaker 1: mad at Dan for like using bits over and over
Speaker 1: as part of this thing before Tina Hammers was traded.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a bit. You're unloading a poor
Speaker 1: employee and you're you're basically taking the dolphins to the
Speaker 1: back to the outside of the Woodshe Tina has been
Speaker 1: a problem. Um, what is six round pick for DeVante Parker?
Speaker 1: What else? What else is going back besides the worker? Well,
Speaker 1: haven't hasn't this already been decided? No? Well, you threw
Speaker 1: it to it before we talked. It was a six
Speaker 1: round pick and an admin who has a wine problem.
Speaker 1: Six round pick for Davante Parker. Yeah, I would do
Speaker 1: that in a second if I were the Browns too.
Speaker 1: That feels like they could get more of the Dolphins, right,
Speaker 1: get on the subreddit. Yeah, I think they're gonna need
Speaker 1: our app for that. I don't know if they could.
Speaker 1: I think some I don't know. I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: figure out the terms of half these things because sometimes
Speaker 1: someone's going for fifth or six or some bizarre conditional
Speaker 1: then someone else getting the first rounder. I think he's
Speaker 1: having a six round talent, but I guess. But he
Speaker 1: hasn't been good enough to be on their active roster, right,
Speaker 1: what do you tell? What do you tell the Browns
Speaker 1: when you're not even putting them on the field on Sunday?
Speaker 1: Any Yeah, he will be playing a lot on Thursday
Speaker 1: and probably for the rest of the season, just because
Speaker 1: of the injuries at the position. Give us another one West, Well,
Speaker 1: the Bills aren't done trading. Well, they got a lot
Speaker 1: of work to do. They got a lot of work
Speaker 1: to do. They've got a wide receiver in a contract
Speaker 1: your Kelvin. Kelvin Benjamin and the Titans have lost two
Speaker 1: games because of wide receiver drops. They lost the Buffalo
Speaker 1: game and the Chargers game because the receivers cannot move,
Speaker 1: the chains cannot stop dropping the ball and keep letting
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota down. Kelvin Benjamin's to the Titans for a
Speaker 1: fourth round pick? M M. What is up with Kelvin Benjamin? Though?
Speaker 1: Where where are we in the Kelvin Benjamin experience? Is
Speaker 1: he still a guy you wanted? And I feel like
Speaker 1: his value has dropped a lot more than just to
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick over the last year, especially at
Speaker 1: the end of what's his rookie contract. They need a
Speaker 1: large body who can be a position they need that.
Speaker 1: That's exactly they missed Delaney Walker terribly right now. I
Speaker 1: find it like it came out of Carolina with Shares
Speaker 1: with his team and there was the thing a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago where and I don't want to make
Speaker 1: too much of it because I guess Kelvin Benjamin said
Speaker 1: it wasn't a story we'll see, but like Josh Allen
Speaker 1: asked him to warm up with him and he just
Speaker 1: said no. It was just like who is I worry
Speaker 1: about it. I don't think that was reported correctly, you know,
Speaker 1: and maybe it wasn't, but it but it was out there.
Speaker 1: It's just like the thing with Carolina wasn't fake. I
Speaker 1: mean not. It's just like this guy does not seem
Speaker 1: like more than a one year rental, and he keeps
Speaker 1: going to new teams over now. It's been the same
Speaker 1: guy since towards a c L. He had a great
Speaker 1: rookie year under with Cam and I don't know has
Speaker 1: he ever approached that again. And that was about four
Speaker 1: or five. You That's why he's one of those first
Speaker 1: round pick. That's why maybe the Marie Cooper thing isn't
Speaker 1: too crazy. I went and looked back at the first
Speaker 1: round picks from the last four years. I mean, probably
Speaker 1: the best to out of fifteen choices are Calvin Ridley,
Speaker 1: Cooper and Al Gore. And that's out of fifteen receivers
Speaker 1: I would say are the top three. I'm pretty really
Speaker 1: looks good. I'm not. I'm not saying Kelvin Benjamin is
Speaker 1: what he was his rookie year. That's why it's only
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. Still just there in the mix
Speaker 1: and they would need help. So I can do not angle,
Speaker 1: and he could, like, if you need offensive line to help,
Speaker 1: you could also put him a guard. It seems it
Speaker 1: seems like something Bridget would not, you know, be a
Speaker 1: huge fan of. But maybe Bridgets worried that it's getting
Speaker 1: to predictable. It isn't. It isn't damn proposing the trade,
Speaker 1: so Bridge is not going to be a fan of.
Speaker 1: Let's see what Bridget has to say that trade is
Speaker 1: plausible success. Wow, I already know, I already know what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Greg could Greg could orchestrate a trade one
Speaker 1: of the worst trades ever, and she will like that
Speaker 1: because this is already what dance typing erica. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's soap. It's it's reached ps peak predictabil get it,
Speaker 1: we all get it. That's peak predictability. All right? I
Speaker 1: got one? Yeah, wrap us up. I know we're uh
Speaker 1: here we go. Last one. Patrick Peterson that statement that
Speaker 1: he made, that's cool. Um, and I'm sure that's what
Speaker 1: he was asked to do when he did it. But
Speaker 1: you know what, the Kansas City Chiefs are so close,
Speaker 1: They're so close, they're right there. Um, And what if
Speaker 1: you you sent p Pat Pat Pete Pat Pete square.
Speaker 1: He squared to the chief for a first round pick.
Speaker 1: That you've serting that hyper valuable competitive advantage window right now,
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, he might be the best quarterback in football.
Speaker 1: He's just in the second year of his rookie deal,
Speaker 1: and that gives the Chiefs a huge competitive advantage for
Speaker 1: the next two to three years. Peterson addresses a huge
Speaker 1: need shoring up that secondary years old perfectly fits inside
Speaker 1: this window for Casey. They have two to three years
Speaker 1: before they have to pay an asked ton of money
Speaker 1: to Mahomes. Uh, Peterson get quarterback like money with that
Speaker 1: team until then, and then they get an elite defender
Speaker 1: and the final piece of the puzzle. And Casey I
Speaker 1: like it and everyone wins. I don't know why Patrick
Speaker 1: Peterson wouldn't like it to how he would, but he's
Speaker 1: I think he would love it. Oh, first round pick,
Speaker 1: just one, Yeah, first round pick. That's not gonna cut it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take a lot more than that first than
Speaker 1: a third. I'd be less worried about Bridget and more
Speaker 1: worried about the Bidwell family, who had a meeting with
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson on what is today Wednesday and basically, I
Speaker 1: think satom down and said, you're our guy, we love you.
Speaker 1: You know, we're we were gonna become winners. We're not
Speaker 1: trading one of the best players in our franchise history.
Speaker 1: We're going to become winners. It's that easy. Well, that's
Speaker 1: why I think that's the that's the cell job that
Speaker 1: they're doing. Peterson, they're the ones I think that are
Speaker 1: getting in the way here, and kudos to them. I
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's smart. The kind Bomb is
Speaker 1: about to go off, right, I don't think he survives this,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna have a entire new just signed the
Speaker 1: long term. I don't think kind Bomb is making decision here.
Speaker 1: I think it's the owners. But if I'm just saying though,
Speaker 1: if the GM coming off what he came off in
Speaker 1: his personal life, and if they drop a two and fourteen,
Speaker 1: maybe they decide it's time for a true fresh start.
Speaker 1: And then you lose that connection to the guy that
Speaker 1: drafted him. That's all kind of domino pieces. But um, okay,
Speaker 1: so Bridget bridgets everything we've merge. He's gonna turn this
Speaker 1: one down, especially with the statement is hot and masculing
Speaker 1: good trade. The Wolds Wow, good trade. What well, we
Speaker 1: better end this segment before Mark kills me. I'm fine
Speaker 1: with it. It's just it is about as as predictable
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